I posted maps of "Nunavik",where Inuit people live

http://kr.img.dc.yahoo.com/b7/data/history/first_air_map.gif
http://kr.img.dc.yahoo.com/b8/data/language/08_nunavik_nunavut.JPG
http://kr.img.dc.yahoo.com/b8/data/language/nunavik_large.JPG



I didn't know before, but now I know about the land of Nunavik.
It is located in Northern Quebec, and many Inuit people (about 10000) live there.

As you know, they have been living there over 5000 years.
About 400 years ago, Europeans(Franch/English) came their land and made a country called Canada.

Now, they want to have their self-government like Nunavut Territory(1999).

I know there are some complicated issues, but first of all, they have a right to have there own land because they are the First natives in their land, and they want.

Of course, the land which is proclaimed is a northern land so that there will be no influence(problems) to Quebec, Canada or other parts of Canada.

I love this country Canada because the history of Settlers from Europe(Against Inuit people) is different from America. And I don't want Canada to be a country that oppress the first natives and have a bad reputation from all over the world.

I want to know more information and what's going on about Nunavik.

I posted maps of "Nunavik" where Inuit people live

Of course, the land which is proclaimed is a northern land so that there will be no influence(problems) to Quebec, Canada or other parts of Canada.
(...)

I want to know more information and what's going on about Nunavik.

Hello,

It is difficult to understand exactly your statement and what you are looking for. Nunavik is a very stimulating experience. Issues are difficult and the situation seems sometimes without solution. And there are paradoxes.. For instance, the Head Office of the Kativik School Board is located in Ville Saint-Laurent, near the Dorval Airport, because people in Nunavik have to transit by Montreal to go in other parts of their territory!!!

Maybe you are aware, that the a new Canadian Inuit territory, Nunatsiavut, will be established within the boundaries of Newfoundland and Labrador sometime in the next few months. Nunatsiavut will enjoy the same status of Nunavik – and not the status of a Territory like Nunavut.

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We should know better about what is happening tour fellows Inuit, in our own province.

And it was a good idea to post the maps.

I don't think Canadians or Quebecers for that matter too have treated the Natives any better than the Americans. Europeans that settled here were determined to exterminate those that were not useful or opposed them ...

It would be interesting if Quebec government allows some self-determination or even create a new "native" province. I don't count on it though; if Northern Quebec was not a hydroelectric poerhouse and an unexplored potential rich mining site then that would be possible. Money talks ...

It would be interesting if Quebec government allows some self-determination or even create a new "native" province. I don't count on it though; if Northern Quebec was not a hydroelectric poerhouse and an unexplored potential rich mining site then that would be possible. Money talks ...

Yea, in reality, I agree with you.

But I think that the rights of freedom and Peace must be recognized more than money or profit in this case.
Think about the situation that a super power from somewhere to Canada exterminate Almost every Canadians and dominate the rest of us.
Put yourself in Inuit people's shoes.

I know that it isn't easy issue. But in my opinion, money shouldn't be the most important point.
And I hope that there are not much money in their land so that the first native people's dream comes true. And Quebecios Canadians will be more free from them.

When it comes to native independence, the separatists are hypocrites.

^^ go back to Asian forums if u got nothing intelligent to say

^^ Spoken like a true separatist. ^^
I am sure you want all the ethnics to go back to where they came from.

^^ go back to Asian forums if u got nothing intelligent to say
:colgate:

When it comes to native independence, the separatists are hypocrites.
^^ Spoken like a true separatist. ^^
I am sure you want all the ethnics to go back to where they came from.

It is unfortunate to intervene in a way that, in its turn, provokes strong and unfortunate reactions.

Had you been at least using humour, your comments could have been less offensive.

As well, you should have put forward some ideas or thoughts. The subject raised by skyscraper03 is of mere importance and it is socially and culturally interesting. Would you not have any thing to express about Nunavik, or to ask (if ever you are eager to learn something about it)?

I wonder if the anonymous aspect of this kind of site gives some people the opportunity to behave in a way they cannot in daily open life. The virtuality of the communication might be a channel to get rid of inner frustration. I truly wish I am wrong?

At least, show me (and others) that you are able to construct a coherent sentence or argument.

Merci.

I wonder if the anonymous aspect of this kind of site gives some people the opportunity to behave in a way they cannot in daily open life. The virtuality of the communication might be a channel to get rid of inner frustration. I truly wish I am wrong?


YOu haven't been here very long edalens...it shows! Every once in a while, our good friend Mr Ping shows up...says something idiotic then leaves! THere's no use in trying to get him to say something intelligent, he lacks the intelligence to do so!

At least, show me (and others) that you are able to construct a coherent sentence or argument.

It's hard to do when you have the mental age of a three year old!

Oh no, the degeneracy of threads is just as common here at SSC as it is at SSP. :(

Are Gdoggy and Dinomind here too?

It's a really interesting topic. I did a paper on it in uni. In some senses, they do have some degree of autonomy, but I don't think territory status is in the cards. The James Bay Hydro Project and other natural resources seem too valuable for a province to give up.

They do have some autonomy and the money that goes with it, people forget that Quebec gives em alot of money too.

I know that it isn't easy issue. But in my opinion, money shouldn't be the most important point.
And I hope that there are not much money in their land so that the first native people's dream comes true. And Quebecios Canadians will be more free from them.

No it should not be but then again this land is extremely rich and someone will be looking to exploit it. Another thing is water - there are thousands of lakes and rivers of pristine quality in that part of Quebec.

I am not sure about the extent of demands of Natives for self-determination. I know there are land issue claims between Natives and Quebecers in mineral rich Abitibi but nothing about what is going on up in the real north.

Have I said anything that was not true? The separatists believe Quebec is not divisible.
The separatists reject claims that aboriginal peoples have the same right to self-determination as Quebeckers.
The Inuit of northern Quebec have always voted against Quebec becoming sovereign. The separatists are in fact hypocrites.

I find it very amusing nobody said anything negative about what marek bielski said to me.

"I find it very amusing nobody said anything negative about what marek bielski said to me"

That's because nobody wants to see you here! You never bring anything good to a conversation! You're a shit disturber!

Good Bye

The funny thing is that he called Marek a separatist... hahaha not even close.

I think any culture with a stake in Canada has a right to Want their own piece of the Pie, but I want a Freaken Mansion and 5 wives. the problem is that My mansion wouldnt fit into my Neighbour hood . to obtain these things people my have to leave thier neighbour hood ( Canada ) to get them . and No I dont always have to use metaphoric similies Im just like that ...

The funny thing is that he called Marek a separatist... hahaha not even close.
So little marek just acts like a separatist… hahaha your funny.
MisterPing is the voice of reason.

^ :crazy:

So little marek just acts like a separatist… hahaha your funny.
MisterPing is the voice of reason.

Yes, you cunning little tete carre! I give up, I am writting under this marek bielski alias but my real name is Falardeau. Pierre to friends, Monsieur Falardeau for you MisterPink.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b38/marek_bielski/falardeau.jpg
I am more than a mere separatist, I am a patriot!

misterping, if you are the voice of reason, who is the voice of irrationality?

Have I said anything that was not true? The separatists believe Quebec is not divisible.
The separatists reject claims that aboriginal peoples have the same right to self-determination as Quebeckers.
The Inuit of northern Quebec have always voted against Quebec becoming sovereign. The separatists are in fact hypocrites.

Most of Quebecers no matter their political views believe Quebec is not divisible. Whether it is I dunno, but past history showed that borders can be redrawn easily when appropriate. Can it happen to Quebec? Possibly, but I am not a constitutional lawyer so I won't tackle this issue. Frankly I am not that interested in it.

Not sure why you tie up separatists with Aboriginals. English Canada has a terrible record of treating their Native populations. Ever heard of kids sniffing glue in hamlets in Lablador or that water crisis in that shithole on James Bay? Neither Canada nor Quebec should be proud of its history, past and present.

Inuits have voted for Canada, but does it mean they would act on it? You are hypothesizing here.

I find it very amusing nobody said anything negative about what marek bielski said to me.

So want a cookie too?

The funny thing is that he called Marek a separatist... hahaha not even close.

Interesting.
I don't believe we met, I wonder on what you based your assumption that I am federalist? ;)

Les fédéralistes au Québec sont minoritaires.

Bienvenue dans le club Marek... comme on le sait et le réalise de plus en plus, c'est pas avec une pluie de milliards supposément fédéralisés à même la source de notre propre argent qu'ils nous rendront amoureux du Canada tel qu'on le connaît.

Bravo.

Les fédéralistes au Québec sont minoritaires.
Mon voisin me dit qu'il est separatist mais il veut rester au Canada. :hahaha: Comprendre les Quebecois c'est comme comprendre les femmes. On peut penser qu'on a toutes les reponses mais de temps en temps elles nous laissent dans la merde ;)

Je trouve que les Quebecois manquent du courage, c'est tout. Le complexe du peuple conquis est difficile a eliminer. Peut etre c'est pas gentil de dire ca mais c'est vrai.

Anyway, je viens d'Europe de l'Est, Toronto c'est chez moi, Montreal c'est mon pays. Quebec c'est la terre incognito ... Je voudrai connaitre le Quebec profond mais c'est difficile quand on habite Montreal (je suis bien active sur le forum polognais de SSC, c'est drole combien le gens de la-bas aime cette ville :)).

Bienvenue dans le club Marek... comme on le sait et le réalise de plus en plus, c'est pas avec une pluie de milliards supposément fédéralisés à même la source de notre propre argent qu'ils nous rendront amoureux du Canada tel qu'on le connaît.

Bravo.

Pour moi argent du federal n'a rien avoir avec tout ca. C'est juste l'election, c'est pareille ici comme dans d'autres pays.

Je n'avais jamais dit quelle opition politique j'avais choisi. Je n'ai d'intention de me defendre et perdre mon temps. Je suis bien mefiant de politiciens de tout gendre, l'histoire de la Pologne m'avait appris ca, c'est dans mon sang ... mais quand quelqu'un du ROC dit le betises pour insulter les Quebecois, j'essaie d'intervenir. C'est le question de respecte.

PS. C'est juste drole que Malek semble sur de mes choix politiques, comme vous d'ailleur ;)

Interesting.
I don't believe we met, I wonder on what you based your assumption that I am federalist? ;)

i was sure that you were... maybe i got mixed up with someone else. :cheers:

Parfait Marek, c'était juste pour me fixer au sujet de tes convictions. :)
Je ne viens pas ici souvent, je voulais au moins connaître ton opinion.

Courage? C'est sûr... les jeunes en ont plus.

Parfait Marek, c'était juste pour me fixer au sujet de tes convictions. :)
Je ne viens pas ici souvent, je voulais au moins connaître ton opinion.

Courage? C'est sûr... les jeunes en ont plus.

Oui, c'est juste une question de temps. Les jeunes sont plus convaincu que leurs parents mais moins ouverts sur le Canada ...

PS. avant tu partes, est-ce que tu vais faire le voyage a Toronto pour faire le photoreportage la-bas. J'ai bien aime le travail que t'avais fait sur Moncton et Haliax et bien sur a Philadelphie (quelle ville incroyable!), puis Toronto c'est quand meme une ville interessante ;)

Comment sais-tu tout ça toi?
Peux-tu me donner un indice sur ton identité?

Les trois fin-de-semaines de novembre où j'étais disponible ont été horribles en température comme tu sais.
Merci pour l'appréciation, mais comment peux-tu commenter mes photos encore??? ;)

je les ai vu dans l'autre forum, c'est tout. J'appelle ca du top shape mec lol

Philadelphie c'est une ville americane tellement important a cause de son historie et industrie mais meconnu par le publique. C'est bien de la montrer.

Puis j'aime bien Halifax et Dartmouth. Je voudrai visiter Moncton pour entendre le francais hors du Quebec ....

Peux-tu me donner un indice sur ton identité?


tabarnaque t'avais vu mon photo, non? Bon je suis plus elegant sans la barbe mais les meufs m'adorent comme j'suis

;)

Why do almost all First Nations people and so-called ethnics never vote for the separatist?
Is it because they know what the separatists represent?
Are they aware the separatists can barely tolerate them?
The separatists have their list of scapegoats.

:hi: Bonjour petit Pierre, I am your biggest fan.

Why do almost all First Nations people and so-called ethnics never vote for the separatist?
Is it because they know what the separatists represent?
Are they aware the separatists can barely tolerate them?
The separatists have their list of scapegoats.

:hi: Bonjour petit Pierre, I am your biggest fan.

First Nation people are still majority English speaking so they vote accordingly to the language barrier. Would you want to guess how McGill students would cast their ballots in case of another referendum?

Again this is pure speculation but I assume they identify themselves more with their tribe/nation than with white man's politics, plus they don't want to lose the federalist cashcow (why lose a sugardaddy?).

I doubt Natives are knowledgeable about the Quebec politics if Quebecers themselves are pretty ignorant about it. Being politically incorrect I would say that their lack of education plays a huge role in this. They remain the least educated and least affluent members of Quebec society, not your typical yuppies from Plateau ;)

You mentioned tolerance, but you are wrong on this. Quebec separatists have been bending backwards to show a multicultural face to their movement. It is partially working, but it is nowhere like the initial pure laine Tremblay movement it was at the beginning. I know you still have the Parizeau's comments tatooed on your forehead but that is ok ... you won't be the one voting next time.

Sleep tigthly, Pierre is watching.

I think this is an interesting topic and do not wished to lock this thread because of a couple of nasty and inappropriate comments. I hope this thread will continue in a much more civilized manner.

:goodnight

ILOVEMTL, I also think that this thread might be able to survive (that is if a certain forumer were to stop trying to get a reaction out of everyone!)

"Je n'avais jamais dit quelle opition politique j'avais choisi. Je n'ai d'intention de me defendre et perdre mon temps. Je suis bien mefiant de politiciens de tout gendre, l'histoire de la Pologne m'avait appris ca, c'est dans mon sang ... mais quand quelqu'un du ROC dit le betises pour insulter les Quebecois, j'essaie d'intervenir. C'est le question de respecte. "

Tu n'a pas besoins de dire quel sont tes opinions politique. C'est ton choix, et c'est aux autres de respecter ça! Dans le fonds, c'est ce que tout le monde demande. :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

It is unfortunate to intervene in a way that, in its turn, provokes strong and unfortunate reactions.

I find it very amusing nobody said anything negative about what marek bielski said to me.

Dear Mr. Ping-Pong,

It is sad that you were not able to decipher that I regretted what Marek Bielski said to you. Obviously, you are lacking some literacy skills. One can speak of somebody with using is name. Pronouns were invented in that perspective.

I did not namely name Marek because I thought he was just over-reacting to you. You were the one igniting the fire. (Ping, this last sentence is a metaphor: you actually ignited no fire. Are you following me? Do you understand? Do not be sad … hush, little baby don't you cry.) Read the sentence again. Again, Ping, again.

Try to understand again, Ping, again; there's nothin' that can harm you.

Ping, Ping, your Mama is good lookin'

Ping, don’t cry, read again and again, Ping; spread your wings and take to the sky, take to the sky.

Following me, Ping? It is somehow like in your name... A Pong often comes after Ping, like in Ping-Pong! Well done, Ping. You do not understand it, but at leat your smiling. Nice Ping.....
... Pong... haha!!! I got you.

Ping, at least, take consideration I love Yul's advice. I like I love Yul too.
Ping-Pong, Ping!!!!!

I hope this thread will continue in a much more civilized manner.

Quebec would never have it. That's a MASSIVE chunk of their province.

It is funny that people from Canada namely Ontario say that the inuits are better treated in their own province... look at the inuits in northern ontario and Labrador, living like in the third world, so bad they have to literaly move two villages.

^^ only when the PQ is in power are the Natives treated badly ;)

I think that people should treat this topic without considering the matters between Quebec and Ontario. It's not a problem between Ontario and Quebec but a matter between Locals(Natives) and Imigrants in Canada.

I really like the thing that Canadians' way of thinking for the country's nature and the inhabitants that is more proud than any other country. Absoultely, I agree with that. People just live in this land, Canada. However, we don't have a right to deprive the life of local People, the animals and the nature.

In my opinion, they deserve to have their own territory with self-(provincial) government as they want. Plus, I think it's not that important whether they decide to learn French or English or other language at all, after they became a part of Canada and a province which have it's own government like Nunavut.


I posted some more pictures of Nunavik.
http://www.flyhighministries.com/images/Arctic%202004/Nunavat%20Flag.JPGNunavut flag
http://kr.img.dc.yahoo.com/b13/data/map/North_America_afaa.JPG
Nunavik people(Natives)
http://www.inuitsleddoginternational.com/images/spotlight/05_nunavik1.jpg
http://www.mock-turtle.net/postcards/canada/postcard34.jpg
http://www.mock-turtle.net/postcards/canada/postcard36.jpg
http://www.saveursdumonde.net/ency-voy/quebec/nunabebe.jpg
Nunavik native language
http://www.leksikon.org/images/ca_nunavik.gif
http://www.mindcandy.com/fonts/tworebels/fonts/Nunavik.gif

Having their own government for 10000 people doesn't make sense.
The territory would be the smallest in Canada, and with no natural resources nor healthy economy it would be even poorer than Nunavut.
They should stay in Quebec.

The Nunavik people are very well treated in Québec... better so than their brothers in Ontario.

Moreso, the pandora box of converting a provincial land to a territory should not and never be opened.

Vive le Nunavik libre!

Ask Ted Nolan what he thinks.

Avez-vous des infos sur les vols très bas au-dessus de la terre de l'OTAN? Je me souviens que les Innus ont protesté très fort contres ca. Même ici aux Pays-Bas ils sont venus (parce-que l'armée NL a participé dans ces vols), moi aussi je leur ait soutenu ici pendant une action sur une base militaire à Etten-Leur (je pense).
Ces vols sont/était au Labrador/Nord-du-Québec.
Maintenant je parle des années 1988-93 plus ou moins.
Pardonnez-moi mon mauvais francais.

Malek, they had to move two villages?

Avez-vous des infos sur les vols très bas au-dessus de la terre de l'OTAN? Je me souviens que les Innus ont protesté très fort contres ca. Même ici aux Pays-Bas ils sont venus (parce-que l'armée NL a participé dans ces vols), moi aussi je leur ait soutenu ici pendant une action sur une base militaire à Etten-Leur (je pense).
Ces vols sont/était au Labrador/Nord-du-Québec.
Maintenant je parle des années 1988-93 plus ou moins.
Pardonnez-moi mon mauvais francais.

Je crois avoir lu il y a quelques semaines que ces vols étaient en voie d'être arrêtés (en particulier par l'armée allemande). Les coûts des opérations au Canada sont trop élevés. De plus, il semble que les nouvelles technologies font en sorte que ce type d'exercices n'est plus nécessaire.

Quant à votre français,il est de bonne qualité, et l'on souhaiterait en rencontrer plus souvent pareil niveau ici.

J'espère avoir répondu à vos questions.

Malek, they had to move two villages?

you talking about the ontarian villages which water was contaminated??

if not, i have no idea what you're talking about.

Very Smart Mr.ping !! :|

your post was deleted because I don't think its fair to close the entire thread just for one person's comments.

Very Smart Mr.ping !! :|

You’re more fun than I thought.

Is Provocation a greater sin than Appeasement?

Is Provocation a greater sin than Appeasement?
Silencing may be the greatest sin.

In any case, Happy Birday to you.

Yep, Malek, the ones in Labrador and Northern Ontario...