http://www.nfc.co.il/archive/001-D-87812-00.html?tag=17-00-31

there will be two 51f buildings and one 24 building , the place is near the diamond bursa. and the 51f towers will be the second highest buildiungs in israel.
the project will be done by 'Eurocom' and it will use for commercial and residence.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d18/goodmood10/newbuilding.jpg
the buildings will be in/ near this area (it's gonna look great , beccaue it's near the 'down town' of ramat gan and tzameret park)

51 floors, wow nice....does it say how tall they'll be?

no , but they said it's gonna be the second highest in israel wich means it will be higher than any other building in israel and not higher than city gate

actuallt it's old project but it's finally starting!!!!!!

great skyline!!!(Ramat Gan-Givataim,Tel Aviv)

Yes, its very good that they are doing something with this project, but im not sure about the two 51F towers looking the same.....well I hope they will have a good design.

and BTW 51 floors is 195~ meters.

not bad for Givataim....

We had a low-resolution rendering of this project somewhere, didn't we?


Anyway, I hope that the towers don't look the same, but even if they do - why not? :D


In any case, these are great news - the place is right where Tel-Aviv's skyscrapers should be built.

Any pictures of this 51 floor tower?
Perhaps its the Renault tower :D?

no...

it will looks something like this:
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/120/672917569uw.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

In other words, this would dwarf the Vered Tower (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100891), which is the city's tallest right now.

yes!!finally...Givataim is going to be Ramat Gan no.2!(or Petah Tikwa)

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7910/470672229zb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Wait a sec!!!!

There making it right near the Elite Factory..
the Elite Factory is suppose to have a musuem and a 65 story tower..

so why is it in Givatyim.

One thing that pisses me off is that when you get to that picture ^^ its like every 2 meters a new city/town pops up. I cant really tell the difference between what is Ramat Gan, what is Bnei Barak, what is Kfar Maccabi, what is Givaytim and whatever is into that area...its confusssssssssing :(

it's Tel Aviv metro...no borders between Ramat Gan,Tel Aviv,Givataim

i understand you, it's not easy to distinguish, in one road you can cross 4 or five cities- petah tiqva, bnei brak, ramat gan, givataim and tel aviv.
the building is not gonna be in the place of elite factory , it's not so far from there (in the area of givataim :)

Ok so just to be sure...lets do this..

The road cutting tel aviv and Ramat Gan is the Ayalon Freeway.....

The Road cutting Givatyim and Ramat Gan is that road that crosses into a bridge....

and what is it for Bnei Barak?

Bnei Brak is through Ramat Gan

this bridge is part of jabutinski street (i think the longest street in israel),
as i said before - it crosses (from west to east) , tel-aviv, givataim, ramat gan, bnei brak and finally petah tiqva in the east.

only Jabutinsky connects 3 cities:)
where in the world u can see the same?:)

i think they have a very long street in toronto , kappa am i right?

yes but it's only in Toronto;)

;) indeed

I think such streets can be found in some big conurbations, but they must be totally new streets/roads (some long roads made by connecting old ones change their names from city to city). I've found at least one example in Polish Upper Silesia Conurbation (connecting 3 cities with population 75k, 230k and 130k).
The opposite example are mountain villages with population less than 1k but 10-20 km long :lol:

i think they have a very long street in toronto , kappa am i right?


Yes...Yonge St. It cuts into like 5000 cities/towns/counties i belive...

Yonge Street, which is listed as a whopping 1,178 miles (1,896 km) in length -- roughly the distance from San Diego, California, to Seattle, Washington. It starts on the Toronto lakeshore and winds its way northwesterly along Highway 11 to CFB Rainy River, Ontario, at the Minnesota border.'

Ironically, my job downtown is at 3 Yonge St :) so im right near everything!

wow this is long street ! i don't know why
they call it a srteet

wow this is long street ! i don't know why
they call it a srteet


It actually crosses my town.
its pretty easy. So instead of having a st that finishes, you have streets in Toronto that go horizontal or Vertical and they go up very long...

unlike some crazy European streets!

I found the first picture of the project(low quality):
http://img1.tapuz.co.il/forums/46938508.jpg
You can see in the pic that the city gate is still U\C so thats old, and you can also see Elite Tower (planed) near it, and Elite tower is a part of Giva'ataim new area, and will look really good next to the diamond exchang.

and I think, about the Elite tower, that its very likely that it would be built soon, because of the improvement in the real estate market in the area, and the latest developement in Giva'ataim.

I hope it will :)

It will look very nice indeed....

I just dont understand why we have to stop at 65 floors in Israel :(

Givatayim Business Center is underway - Eurocom announced today a construction of a 51 floor tower, 41,000 sqm, the first in Givatayim Business Center. Cost will be $50 million, plot cost 13.4 million$.
each floor - 850 sqm, 47 business floors. another building of 12,000 sqm meters for parking.
The tower is for the main management of Eurocom,
one of the country's leading communication companies..

The next to be built in future:
1) another 51 floor office tower
2) 24 floor office tower with 27,500 sqm.
3) three 21 floor residential towers.
4) 16 floor residential tower
5) 10 floor old age home

Givatayim mayor: after many years, givatayim is getting a business center and we wont be only a sleepy suburb next to ramat gan and tel aviv.


יורוקום תבנה מגדל בן 51 קומות בגבעתיים
תשקיע כ-50 מיליון דולר פרויקט ראשון במרכז העסקים והמגורים החדש ייבנו 117 אלף מ"ר משרדים ו-50 אלף מ"ר למגורים ראש העיר, אפי שטנצלר: גבעתיים על המפה


מרכז העסקים והמגורים החדש של גבעתים ואיזור תל אביב יוצא לדרך. חברת יורוקום, שבשליטת שאול אלוביץ, תיבנה מול הבורסה ליהלומים מגדל משרדים בן 51 קומות, 41,000 מ"ר, השני בגובהו בארץ, בהשקעה של כ-50 מיליון דולר. החברה עומדת לקנות ממינהל מקרקעי ישראל, לצורך הפרויקט, מגרש בן 7.45 דונם, ותשלם 13.4 מיליון דולר, כחלק מההשקעה הכוללת.

מגדל המשרדים ישמש להנהלה המרכזית של יורוקום, אחת מחברות התקשורת המובילות בארץ, היושבת כיום בתל אביב. יהיו בו 47 קומות משרדים (850 מ"ר בקומה ), שתי קומות מסחריות ושתי קומות טכניות. מתחת למגדל יבנה חניון בן שבעה מפלסים, ובו 700 מקומות חנייה. בראש המגדל תוצב תאורת אזהרה למטוסים נוחתים.

מתחם של 84 דונם לעסקים ומגורים

מרכז העסקים של גבעתיים ייבנה על מגרש בן 84.4 דונם הנמצא במשולש שבין דרך פתח תקווה, רחוב ערבי נחל והמשך רחוב המעיין. רובו שטח ריק, עם כמה בניינים ישנים לפינוי.

עיריית גבעתיים מתכננת מזה שנים רבות לבנות במקום מרכז עסקים ומגורים חדש, בתשובה לבנייה החדשה בתל אביב ורמת גן. המרכז החדש ייבנה מול תחנת הרכבת תל אביב-מרכז, בנייני הבורסה ליהלומים, מגדל משה אביב ובנייני משרדים אחרים בתחום רמת גן. גבעתיים מקווה עתה להתמודד מול רמת גן במשיכת עסקים ומשרדים.

במרכז העסקים יהיו שלושה בנייני משרדים, בשטח כולל של 117,000 מ"ר - שני מגדלים בני 51 קומות, אחד מהם ייבנה על-ידי יורוקום, ומגדל בן 24 קומות, ובו 27,500 מ"ר משרדים ו-7,500 מ"ר מסחר.

בחלקו השני של הפרויקט יהיו חמישה בנייני מגורים, בשטח כולל של 50,000 מ"ר: שלושה מגדלים בני 21 קומות, שבכל אחד מהם 10,800 מ"ר; בניין בן 16 קומות, 5,400 מ"ר; ובית דיור מוגן בן 10 קומות, 18,000 מ"ר. נראה כי במקום ייבנו 300 עד 350 דירות באיכות גבוהה, וכ-300-250 דירות למבוגרים וקשישים בבית הדיור המוגן. בחלק מהבניינים ייבנו גם קומות מסחריות.

מרכיב נוסף של התוכנית הוא בניית חניון עילי בן חמש קומות, 12,000 מ"ר, ובו כ-400 מקומות חנייה, המיועדים לדיירים ולמבקרים.

שטנצלר: לא נהיה עיר שינה

ראש עיריית גבעתיים, אפי שטנצלר, אמר היום ל-Nfc: "אני שמח שהפרויקט הגדול של גבעתיים יוצא לדרך, לאחר שנים רבות. הוא ישים את גבעתיים על המפה. כבר לא נהיה עיר שינה. מגדלי המשרדים וקומות המסחר יספקו תעסוקה לאלפי תושבים, ומאות דירות היוקרה עשויות להיות תשובה לדירות היוקרה הנבנות בימים אלה בצפון תל אביב".

yea Givatayim rocks ....
47,000 people town with skyscrapers.
and every thing is few hundreads meters around my house.

woow so we will see pics when this towers will u/c?;)

^^ seems they are very ambitious... 7 towers.. they want to take some of the tax money flowing into ramat gan...

yea Givatayim rocks ....
47,000 people town with skyscrapers.
and every thing is few hundreads meters around my house.
It's not a 47,000 people town, it's a rich suburb - but it still rocks!
build it up, build it high :)

hebrewtext Shohad and me hope u will design it very nice;))

If you had a choice between all the suburbs in Tel Aviv to live in...which one would it be..

this should be a new thread and a poll? :D

^^ neve tzedek, tel aviv..

If you had a choice between all the suburbs in Tel Aviv to live in...which one would it be..

this should be a new thread and a poll? :D

yes.....

^^ i think there was a poll like this a few weeks ago, check

no...

nope!

How come only mods can make polls :(

and besides, zohar knows Gush Dan/ Greater Tel Aviv area more than i do!

Kappa everyone can make polls

^^ but not everybody knows tlv well enough to answer

So say its the Gush Dan area...

municipal boundaries between Tel-Aviv, Ramat-Gan and Givatayim.
and the location of the proposed towers in Givatayim.

http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/4852/newgivatayim2vo.jpg

nice.so i see it's near Azrieli...thanx..

municipal boundaries between Tel-Aviv, Ramat-Gan and Givatayim.
and the location of the proposed towers in Givatayim.

http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/4852/newgivatayim2vo.jpg

hey thanks for that pic, that really helps me understand the area so much better, this really needs to be one big city, it only makes sense to have one government for these cities, they're all so small to begin with it makes sense for them to be bigger,

After showing that pic of the Tel Aviv metro area, this place alone has a number of projects.

awesome!

how do you know the location of each tower? I think youre wrong

how do you know the location of each tower? I think youre wrong

the two 51 fl. towers are located where is today some old industrial area ,which first must be demolished.
the old factories roofs are easy to define from the aerial pic.

the 24 fl. tower is located west of these two , inside the egg shaped "island" surrunded by Ayalon rd. and its exit ways to Arlozorov and Arvey Nachal st.
very easy to identify in that pic.

the 3 21 fl. residential towers will replace the 7 old blocks (rakavot) on Arvey Nachal st.
as a"pinui Binui" project which signs and adds are already on the street for the past 3 years.

^^ oh, ok

רגעעעע
היברו, איפה שבתמונה שסימנתה לא אמור להיבנות השוק הסיטונאי?

דור תתעורר השוק הסיטונאי בצד אחר...

:) תודה

hebrewtext do u work in the goverment?? cause u know all the plans, where they will be and stuff or is just mossad work? :)

^^ dont you see al jazeera? we are all mossad agents.. now that you know, I will have to kill you :)

by the way I like my Shawarma shaken, not stirred.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d18/goodmood10/newbuilding.jpg
the buildings will be in/ near this area (it's gonna look great , beccaue it's near the 'down town' of ramat gan and tzameret park)


BTW also in that parking lot aside Jaboutinsky rd. circled in black ,
I heared talking of building another tower in Ramat Gan.

^^ I can see in my mind the traffic jams already..

how did you get satelite image of Israel?

how did you get satelite image of Israel?



use this link for an interactiv map / aerial pic of Tel Aviv and part of the metro area :
map and aerial (http://194.90.126.5/iview/)

my guess was almost accurate after all

I hope givatayim doesnt loose its character it was nice to see old buildings and scrapers in the background

use this link for an interactiv map / aerial pic of Tel Aviv and part of the metro area :
map and aerial (http://194.90.126.5/iview/)


Is it only for Tel Aviv?

^^ Yes.

almost every city has a gis system online

In google they have the same thing.. Its kinda cool :)

Google has shitti maps of Israel but at least you can't see much army intalations. I checked out Egypt and you can actually count their jet fighters :lol:

Israel blurred out there google map. It was smart...afterall....you dont want people to tap in..

Its best in Europe and North America.
I tried to find where that Gringo' Herzfeld lives in Venezueula and they too, blurred it out!

Eurocom buys Givatayim lot for $63.3m

The 84-dunam Givatayim City complex has been rezoned for offices, commerce, residences and assisted living facilities.

Guy Yamin 11 Dec 05 12:19

Eurocom Group won an Israel Land Administration (ILA) tender last week for a 7.5-dunam (1.875-acre) lot to build the new Givatayim City high tech and industrial zone for $63.3 million. Eurocom will also bear the cost of vacating squatters who built illegal businesses on the site decades ago. The lot is slated for a 40,000-sq.m. 47-storey office tower, a 300-unit assisted living facility in an 18,000-sq.m. 12-storey building, including two commercial floors.
Located west of the Ayalon highway, the 84-dunam (21-acre) Givatayim City is situated near the Israel Diamond Exchange in Ramat Gan. The land is owned by the ILA, Givatayim municipality, Ayalon Highways Co. Ltd., and private parties. The Urban Building Plan (UBP) for the north Givatayim industrial zone, which currently mainly includes old single and two-storey workshops, rezones the area for offices, hotels, residences and assisted living facilities.

Under the UBP, Givatayim City will be divided into three lots. Eurocom bought lot 2. The ILA tender for Lot 1 failed, when no bids were made. The ten-dunam (2.5-acre) lot 1 is slated for a 35,000-sq.m. 23-storey office building, with three commercial floors. The most attractive lot is lot 3, currently an 8.2-dunam (2.05-acre) parking lot, owned by Strauss-Elite Ltd. (TASE:STEL). Lot 3 is zoned for two buildings: a 42,000-sq.m. 47-storey office building with two commercial floors, and 140 apartments in a ten-storey high-rise above two 1,000-sq.m. commercial floors. Lot 3 has no squatters who would have to be evicted. All the building include underground parking garages.

Published by Globes [online], Israel business news - www.globes.co.il - on December 11, 2005

so its only a 47 storey tower..
not a 50 something.. :(

so its only a 47 storey tower..
not a 50 something.. :(


its written 47 office fl + 2 commercial fl + need atechnical floors as well = 50 +

its written 47 office fl + 2 commercial fl + need atechnical floors as well = 50 +


When you say commercial floors..do you mean floors that are going to be in the first few floor and are going to be used as a shopping centre or some sort...possibly have a store that has 2 floors (like hamashbir)?

and parking as well? Is it underground or overparking?

Israel blurred out there google map. It was smart...afterall....you dont want people to tap in..

Its best in Europe and North America.
I tried to find where that Gringo' Herzfeld lives in Venezueula and they too, blurred it out!

dont mess with venezuela or with chavez, will send a missile to ur canadian home and blow el kappavim place's ;)

dont mess with venezuela or with chavez, will send a missile to ur canadian home and blow el kappavim place's ;)


Try and bush will take care of you :D

I cant wait til bush will hold a Press Conference and say...yea...some died..i dunno, about 24,000 Venezuelians :D

^^ That was so pathetic, he showed zero emotion for both Iraqis and US soldiers, the way he said it, so casual.. like "yeah, what was the number? 30000 I think.."

Anway, islamic terrorists a.k.a "insurgents" are responsible for 3/4 of that number and I dont see them holding press confrences regretting targeting innocent people of course, on the contrary, they are all shahids...

Just imagine the number of virgins needed, lets say 5000 terrorists dead times 72.. boy thats a lot of virgins :rofl:

When you say commercial floors..do you mean floors that are going to be in the first few floor and are going to be used as a shopping centre or some sort...possibly have a store that has 2 floors (like hamashbir)?

and parking as well? Is it underground or overparking?


look at city gate in ramat gan.. also two commercial floors I think it will be the same pattern of building.

I don't think so. I think that a substancial part of the building will become corporate HQ for eurocom.

I don't think so. I think that a substancial part of the building will become corporate HQ for eurocom.

no no, what I meant was: pattern of 2-3 commercial ground floors with entrances from the street, and separate entrance to the office tower for Eurocom.

^^ That was so pathetic, he showed zero emotion for both Iraqis and US soldiers, the way he said it, so casual.. like "yeah, what was the number? 30000 I think.."

Anway, islamic terrorists a.k.a "insurgents" are responsible for 3/4 of that number and I dont see them holding press confrences regretting targeting innocent people of course, on the contrary, they are all shahids...

Just imagine the number of virgins needed, lets say 5000 terrorists dead times 72.. boy thats a lot of virgins :rofl:


Allacham-dullala!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

look at city gate in ramat gan.. also two commercial floors I think it will be the same pattern of building.


So im expecting what will happen is that they will have a floor for things like Cafe and resturants and that will be the 2 floors, right?

I dont remember what was in City Gate. I saw a movie made by kids from Ramat Gan (Jackass in Israel) and i saw they had a cafe. It was nice!

City Gate have a bank at the bottom, no?

remember that area ?

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d18/goodmood10/newbuilding.jpg


it was publish today on NFC that Safeways company owned by Italian investors going to build on it 3 towers.
the towers were approved few monthss ago , will include 2 X 35 fl. and one of 30 fl. and be connected by abridge to the daimonds stock exchange buildings accros Begin/Jaboutinsky rd.

nfc article (http://www.nfc.co.il/archive/001-D-88116-00.html?tag=10-08-14)

complete data of the permit Ramat Gan municipality

http://img290.imageshack.us/img290/8269/tower6fj.jpg
http://img290.imageshack.us/img290/7640/tower10wl.jpg

Go Giva'ataim!!!the area will look great with the new scrapers planed!!but why don't they publish renders of the building?!?!
and another thing, if they are planning to build two 51 floor towers, looking the same, so there is a small chance that they will build one MEGA building, 70~100 floors, but as I said, a very small chance for that....

no, gilad, IIRC, the construction costs start to climb way faster than a simple linear rate at those levels. It doesn't make sense, esp. since the buildings demolished are just a bunch of warehouses.

You are probably right, but maybe they will want to take the "Israel Tallest Tower" title, and build one big tower other than two, but giving some thought into it, they are likely to build two towers....

I would like it BETTER if they build two towers instead of one. We need more horisontal density of towers.