View Full Version : IKEA & BIG To Open Stores In Ashdod


RoM
December 9th, 2005, 11:15 AM
» "חברת הרהיטים והציוד לבית משוודיה "איקאה" בודקת אפשרות להקמת חנות גדולה באשדוד. נודע כי לפני כשבועיים ביקרה משלחת של הנהלת החברה בישראל בלישכתו של ראש העירייה צילקר כדי לדון בנושא.

» בחברת "איקאה" החליטו על רצונם לפתוח חנות נוספת על זו שבנתניה, מדרום לת"א. החברה מנהלת מגעים עם כמה רשויות מקומיות כדי לבחון מהו המקום הנוח והרווחי ביותר עבורה. כל הרשויות, כך נראה, מאד רוצות את "איקאה" בשטחן.
זמיר דחב"ש ממשרד יחסי הציבור "יורו קומוניקיישן" שעובד עם החברה: "אני לא מוכן להגיב לתוכן הפגישה. אכן הייתה פגישה אך אין משא-ומתן. נבדקות אפשרויות עם רשויות שונות, בהן למשל לוד ורחובות. אחת המועמדות היא אשדוד".
גורם בעירייה העריך השבוע שסיכויי הגעת "איקאה" לאשדוד נמצאים במקום טוב באמצע בהשוואה עם סיכויי הערים האחרות.

» עפ"י מפת שימושי קרקע שהוכנה לאחרונה בעירייה כבר יש שטח המיועד לחנות הרהיטים הגדולה והוא בכניסה הדרומית לעיר, ממערב למסילת הרכבת. הקרקע שייכת למושב שדה-עוזיה. לפי אותה מפה ליד "איקאה" מתוכנן מרכז מסחרי מרשת "ביג".


English:
The IKEA cooperation is checking possibilities of opening a new store in Ashdod, IKEA decided they want to open a second store in Israel this time Southern to Tel Aviv and one of the possibilities is Ashdod. The store would be built in Ashdods Southern entrance to the city right near the BIG shopping mall which is planned next to it.

On a personal note: I do not see the point in opening those two huge stores in Ashdod, the city is full of shopping malls and shops and there is really no point in opening more stores... there are 3 really big shopping centers 5 minutes from that area in Ashdod and there is the Kfar Silver Center 10 min from that area in the entrance to Ashkelon. Even the forecasts which suggests Ashdod to be the 3ed biggest city in Israel in just 15 years arent enough of a reason for this... but oh well

Dor. IL
December 9th, 2005, 02:19 PM
jejej cong to Ashdod!!!

B7 have "BIG"... it open before 5 years and know it is very very very very very "BIG"... maybe ashdod get one us :)

JoE_Tel-Aviv
December 9th, 2005, 02:28 PM
Im sure IKEA can get away with having a 3rd store in Israel in the future. Simply because it is IKEA.

It will work in Ashdod.


Joseph.

ZOHAR
December 9th, 2005, 03:48 PM
good news...

Herzeleid
December 9th, 2005, 03:51 PM
as long as it provides more jobs and a better quality of life to israelies is all good :)

RoM
December 9th, 2005, 05:45 PM
Im sure IKEA can get away with having a 3rd store in Israel in the future. Simply because it is IKEA.

It will work in Ashdod.


Joseph.

It would actually be the second store in Israel... there have been talks for quite a while about a second store in Israel, IKEA wanted to build one for the Ashdod-Rishon area (which consists A million people approx)
and concerning the BIG... Well Ashdod has other big shopping centers which are as "big" as the BIG in B7 thats why i dont see the reason in another one in Ashdod... lets just hope it works

Kappa21
December 9th, 2005, 06:05 PM
Im sure IKEA can get away with having a 3rd store in Israel in the future. Simply because it is IKEA.

It will work in Ashdod.


Joseph.


Your not being very economical on IKEAs and the Israeli Commerce behalf

Kappa21
December 9th, 2005, 06:09 PM
Can someone please explain to me what BIG is? Is it a shopping centre? Cause i recall seeing one in the Krayot. Is that it?

On contrary, i think that in total, Israel should have around 4 IKEA stores in all. It doesnt make sense to have more. Israel is not htat big, and you cant have a store for everyone in the country, but you can make a store for just a million people unfortunately...you gotta have the right numbers to actually be able to break even...

I think that they need to build one in the Holon Junction, since it is considered the Gush Dan and can house 2 million potential customers.

Another IKEA can be put in Beer Sheva. It looks very nice to be put there since you got most of the negev customers coming there....

JoE_Tel-Aviv
December 9th, 2005, 06:12 PM
?????

Ummm, alright.


My statement was simply to state that IKEA does well in Israel. From all the residences I have been to in Israel, there is something from IKEA. The store was quite busy when I went, and I was told can get exptremely busy.

Aside from IKEA, look at the malls there. They all have the exact same stores, and they are not far apart from each other. They are all packed. I see more vacant leasing spots in some malls in the Toronto area then in a Israeli mall.

Kappa21
December 9th, 2005, 06:21 PM
?????

Ummm, alright.


My statement was simply to state that IKEA does well in Israel. From all the residences I have been to in Israel, there is something from IKEA. The store was quite busy when I went, and I was told can get exptremely busy.

Aside from IKEA, look at the malls there. They all have the exact same stores, and they are not far apart from each other. They are all packed. I see more vacant leasing spots in some malls in the Toronto area then in a Israeli mall.


Ofcourse it does well! But you cant have an IKEA popping up in every since region in Israel. It will be crazy. It will really harm the operations.

Look at Toronto for a sec. You got a city with 6.5 Million people in Toronto and Area, no? So how many IKEAs do you have for 6.5 Million people?
1) Sheppard IKEA
2) Woodbridge IKEA
3) Lakeshore-Etokbikoe IKEA
4) Burlington IKEA

and then you have one around the Ottawa area or something..
so in all honesty..you have alteast 14.5 million people in Ontario with only 5-6 Ikea stores around....

You gotta understand that IKEA is a furniture store and as such, 85% of there operations consists of people buying something that will last them between 2-12 Years..yes its busy, but if everyone bought (in a perfect competitive sense) than you have 85% of there operations being postponed for atleast 2-12 years! And that is bad....layoffs, job cuts will occur..

With the Malls...it could be busy, but not all stores are..But you have stores changing fashion and brands every 13 days to 2 months so you always have business compared to a furniture store :)

just givin' you some heads up, bro!

EBA
December 9th, 2005, 06:51 PM
Ikea-Israel was bought by Bronfman, a Canadian and heir to the Segram's fortune. He also owns Israel Discount Bank. His father, a billionaire, organizes Birthright Israel program.

JoE_Tel-Aviv
December 9th, 2005, 07:08 PM
Ofcourse it does well! But you cant have an IKEA popping up in every since region in Israel. It will be crazy. It will really harm the operations.

Look at Toronto for a sec. You got a city with 6.5 Million people in Toronto and Area, no? So how many IKEAs do you have for 6.5 Million people?
1) Sheppard IKEA
2) Woodbridge IKEA
3) Lakeshore-Etokbikoe IKEA
4) Burlington IKEA

and then you have one around the Ottawa area or something..
so in all honesty..you have alteast 14.5 million people in Ontario with only 5-6 Ikea stores around....

You gotta understand that IKEA is a furniture store and as such, 85% of there operations consists of people buying something that will last them between 2-12 Years..yes its busy, but if everyone bought (in a perfect competitive sense) than you have 85% of there operations being postponed for atleast 2-12 years! And that is bad....layoffs, job cuts will occur..

With the Malls...it could be busy, but not all stores are..But you have stores changing fashion and brands every 13 days to 2 months so you always have business compared to a furniture store :)

just givin' you some heads up, bro!


Yes, I realize all of that. And I don't think I ever mentioned that IKEA shold be in every region acorss the nation. I believe I only said that a second IKEA in Israel would do well. So I think your whole explanation above was going a bit too far, lol.

Remember, although they are primarily a furniture store, they are not like Leon's or The Brick in Toronto. IKEA has become a huge housewares superstore. You need a light bulb? a plant? a frying pan? cutlery? carpet? glasses? towels? picture frames? candles? childrens novelties? They have it. They cater to many needs, and have very competitive prices. A friend of mine who works at IKEA told me that these "extra's" alone draw people into the store.


Joseph

Kappa21
December 9th, 2005, 07:18 PM
Remember, although they are primarily a furniture store, they are not like Leon's or The Brick in Toronto. IKEA has become a huge housewares superstore. You need a light bulb? a plant? a frying pan? cutlery? carpet? glasses? towels? picture frames? candles? childrens novelties? They have it. They cater to many needs, and have very competitive prices. A friend of mine who works at IKEA told me that these "extra's" alone draw people into the store.


Joseph


Yea! And the food. Thats 15% of the other stuff that they sell.
So now its a question of if they should make a miniature store in every mall for there 15% of other stuff or should they stick to the warehouse superstore...

IMO, i go to IKEA. I just bought a futon from them. But remember, Israeli wise...i dont want to see a Foreign company come and take over the Israeli furniture business..... eventhough they may make a good bargain, they are driving some companies into bankruptcy..... there is alot of israeli furniture brands that cannot compete and may close down and layoff workers..

source26
December 10th, 2005, 10:43 AM
i think they should open in haifa area for the north - 1,000,000 people..

RoM
December 10th, 2005, 11:15 AM
Well Netanya and Haifa arent that far from each other really....

source26
December 10th, 2005, 11:26 AM
40 minutes is too much for me that why I dont shop there. I would if it was closer

RoM
December 10th, 2005, 12:40 PM
Well you are spoiled... not IKEAs fault lol

source26
December 10th, 2005, 12:51 PM
^^ if all the money I save goes on driving to ikea and then having it delivered to haifa, and I end up having to do d.i.y to it also, what is the point? I can buy a finished product in Haifa for the same price.

ZOHAR
December 10th, 2005, 12:58 PM
nothing special in IKEA...!!!

source26
December 10th, 2005, 12:59 PM
^^ True but still cheaper than furniture dealers..
actually I heard their sales had dropped this year but not by a lot..

ZOHAR
December 10th, 2005, 01:01 PM
also the quality is not the same...

source26
December 10th, 2005, 02:04 PM
also true but that is the least of the problem..

Gilgamesh
December 10th, 2005, 05:26 PM
Well I know what Ikea is, but what the hell is Big??

Kappa21
December 10th, 2005, 05:37 PM
i think they should open in haifa area for the north - 1,000,000 people..


Netanya is not that far from Haifa and i dont think they have the time to give so much business to druzim and aravim :D low GDP

Kappa21
December 10th, 2005, 05:39 PM
yes..what is big.

And also people... ISrael has a huge manufacuring business of furniture. Very well known furniutre.
I actually went over to someone's house in Canada. They came not so long ago, but they brought Israeli made furniture for there kids. The reason being is that like it.....

Think of the job cuts for all those people who have a job in making, prodcuing and running a furniutre plant in Israel!

source26
December 10th, 2005, 05:39 PM
kappa a) racist b) they also have money, lots - you need a lot of furniture for 6 kids and 3 storey villa.. c) what about haifa + krayot, very big consumer place.. they are missing out on a lot of business I am sure..

Kappa21
December 10th, 2005, 05:51 PM
kappa a) racist b) they also have money, lots - you need a lot of furniture for 6 kids and 3 storey villa.. c) what about haifa + krayot, very big consumer place.. they are missing out on a lot of business I am sure..


When you are gonna start to justify Dani Katz being only 11, kidnapped, molested and killed by aravim from Sachnin...than i have yet to hear...

Likewise....
you got 2.5 million people vs. 1 million people.
And infact...the people in the 2.5 million range are more influential...

Make for Haifa and Krayot?!?!?! What are u nuts?!
Canada doesnt even have more than 11 stores nationwide of IKEA.. 9,976,140 SQ KM from coast to coast. 10 provinces, 2 territories.... and 33 million people in between...yet...we end up with only 11 measly IKEA stores....

you guys are making a mess out of this...

source26
December 10th, 2005, 06:01 PM
^^ yeah but they want to open a store in Ashdod - with the surrounding population lets say they have a potential of 700,000 people.. while Haifa and Krayot region, nahariya and galilee is a potential of 1.2 million people
so I dont get it. Netanya was a choice to be near the wealth cities like sharon area and tel aviv, but they missed out on both the south and north so I think 3 stores could cover better, I know myself and many people dont bother to buy there because its too far away. Anyway, what happened was furniture makers lowered prices by 20-50 percent when they came in, so by now theres not a lot of reasons to even go there, their prices are not THAT much lower than other places.

RoM
December 10th, 2005, 06:04 PM
Source you are wrong.... Northern people have Netanya and Southern people will have Ashdod another Ikea in Haifa isnt justified

source26
December 10th, 2005, 06:05 PM
^^ Well I still think Haifa and Krayot and Acco and Nahariya and Nazareth and Afula and Tirat Carmel and Tiberias have more buyer power than Rehovot, Ashdod , Rishon and Ashkelon...

people from Beer Sheva wont go to Ikea in Ashdod like people from Haifa dont go to Netanya.

RoM
December 10th, 2005, 06:07 PM
What are you talking about?? people from Ashdod go to IKEA in Netanya nowadays and its a 50 min drive....

source26
December 10th, 2005, 06:08 PM
^^ because they dont have anywhere to have fun in Ashdod and they think shopping is a fun trip :)

RoM
December 10th, 2005, 06:09 PM
Of course :D

Kappa21
December 10th, 2005, 06:19 PM
You guys just dont understand..

IKEA this, IKEA that..

its a freakin' furniture store! You cant pop a store in every area...only some....
I think the Holon Junction is a great one....but once again, the whole parking, the warehouse and so forth + traffik is very costly...you guys need to understand that IKEA's end users come, buy and sometimes no show up in the store for another 2-7 years!! This is not business.

you say they sell towels, and kitchenette stuff..sure...
but thats no reason for them to actually go and make a 150,000 SQft warehouse in any given city.....

source26
December 10th, 2005, 06:48 PM
so make more smaller ones.. anyway, almost every business in israel ahs an outlet in the checkpost area so Ikea should learn where to put its stores from everyone else..

ZOHAR
December 10th, 2005, 07:33 PM
actually Netanya is a center between Ashdod and Haifa...

RoM
December 10th, 2005, 11:50 PM
and kfar save is the center between Rishon and Zihron?? Zohar you are stupid lol

Kappa21
December 11th, 2005, 12:00 AM
What smaller? What outlets?
What you talking about....

learn the way IKEA does business...
theres no outlets..there no Mini Ikea or Express Ikea.
its a box store and its busy as hell. They make it busy cause they dont want there operation in the north to be boring and there operation in the south to be overwhelmingy busy. They will be a minus.....

and yes..
Kfar Saba is good.

Israel is made up in regions....

Anything from Atlit up is the north.
Anything from Atlit to Rishon is the Central part
Anything in between Rishon and Eilat is the South..
and Jerusalem has its own sub-region..no question about that

khay
December 11th, 2005, 12:02 AM
There's 1 IKEA in il so far :shocked:

ZOHAR
December 11th, 2005, 12:03 AM
and kfar save is the center between Rishon and Zihron?? Zohar you are stupid lol


hehe OHTZAA TANUHI

RoM
December 11th, 2005, 12:13 AM
Hole Aleiha Zohar motek :)

ZOHAR
December 11th, 2005, 12:16 AM
alek alai tagid al ma shen bein raglai (haruz hhh)

RoM
December 11th, 2005, 12:22 AM
מה אתה רוצה?

ZOHAR
December 11th, 2005, 12:24 AM
הא?כלום....