Here are some photos taken 12/3/05

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amazing!

beautiful

Nice architecture.

Check out the left edge of the building on the second to last picture. Every floor is different. I can't wait to see this project when it is completed.

that is the parking tower section which has a weaving effect to it in a stainless steel material.... its not that every floor is different

Actually, according to my Marina Blue Book, the section with the "weaving effect" is the loft units. I have the plans and there is no parking facing Biscayne. It is either retail, lobby, offices, or residences.

Oh you're right, the concave and convex shapes alternate.

When did construction start?

8/22/06 Marina Blue

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Wow, that thing looks just massive. Thans U for the update.

Love those photos!!! Keep them coming!!! :carrot: :cheer: :cucumber: :drunk:

U MIAMI :) !!!, my friend,
AWESOME PICS :cheers: , and
Yes !!!, please take More Pics of all the Towers you can :) .

The MIAMI Biscayne WALL :) is now about 38 % Complete with the Marina Blue, 900 Biscayne, Ten Museum Park, and the Marquis Hotel and Condo Tower Rising !!! :cheers:

Go Cranes !!! :) :scouserd:

Wow it really does look immense. All these towers are great! Thanks for the pics!!

amazing, thanks for the great pics umiami, some great construction going on

I think this building is coming out really nice. It does look immense.

Smooth and cool building.

09/02/06 Marinablue

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That bad boy is got to be about toped off, its huge. When is it supposed to be done?

Very impressive!!!! I think Marina Blue is going to be one of Miami's landmark buildings from this boom. The design, location and the use of so much glass is amazing. Can't wait until it is finished in fall 07. :runaway:

Very impressive!!!! I think Marina Blue is going to be one of Miami's landmark buildings from this boom. The design, location and the use of so much glass is amazing. Can't wait until it is finished in fall 07. :runaway:

...as long as you are not looking at it from the west. Does anyone know what the painting scheme will be for all the exposed hallways on the Western face of the building? Can we expect something similar to Blue?

hey swong by the sales office and they told me that the building should be finished around April.

8/22/06 Marina Blue

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Cool...

That bad boy is got to be about toped off, its huge. When is it supposed to be done?

Rider of ROHAN :) , Yes, my friend :scouserd: !!!, 900 Biscayne Guy :) is right, Late Fall, 2007, will be completed for its residents to spend Christmas in their new Marina Blue Condos. :cheers:

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/7562/marinablue9kx.jpg

that's a really sweet update. Thanks! I really love before and after pics, or especially things that actually look good on paper and are put to reality.

marinablue is probably one of the only buildings that will turnout like its rendering..

what about asia? It looks exactly like the redering.

in the comparison of the rendering to the construction photo, where is the wavelike structure at the bottom in real life? Is that what the parking lot will look like? This seems to be slightly confusing

If you look closely, it's like a triangular prism is missing from the bottom left part of the building (i.e. it's yet to be constructed). That's the wave-like part you're talking about. What I find misleading, however, is the colors of the building. I understand that there is still blue screens/sticker/tape on the windows of the building, but what will be done to the Southeast face to make it look green like in the rendering?

in the comparison of the rendering to the construction photo, where is the wavelike structure at the bottom in real life? Is that what the parking lot will look like? This seems to be slightly confusing

The wave like structure you are asking about is where the town houses and retail will be. This part of the project is just being constructed. Behind that will be the parking area. There will NO parking visible from Biscayne Blvd.

marinablue is probably one of the only buildings that will turnout like its rendering..

With a terrible back fronting the west...

Seriously, The back side of this building completely killed it in my eyes...I would have liked to see a complete 300 footer their instead had I known the back of the building was going to be such a catastrophe...

yes the back of the Marina Blue is a huge letdown...why not encase the whole thing in glass?

With a terrible back fronting the west...

Seriously, The back side of this building completely killed it in my eyes...I would have liked to see a complete 300 footer their instead had I known the back of the building was going to be such a catastrophe...

I really don't think it will be that bad. Lets just wait and see when it is finished. Would you rather have a Met1 there? I will take MarinaBlue any day. Wait until it is finsihed, the front side will be awesome. Who in the heck is going to be looking at the back side anyway???:)

I really don't think it will be that bad. Lets just wait and see when it is finished. Would you rather have a Met1 there? I will take MarinaBlue any day. Wait until it is finsihed, the front side will be awesome. Who in the heck is going to be looking at the back side anyway???:)

Well, for one, anyone that lives west of US1/Biscayne Blvd. will be looking at the backside (i.e. the rest of Dade County).

But I agree with you 100%. Better than Met 1 any day.

yes the back of the Marina Blue is a huge letdown...why not encase the whole thing in glass?

There is a good reason; FAR. This site had finite number of sq ft "under A/C" that could be built. By having hallways on the exterior vs interior, there is more sq ft for sale thus maximizing the overall sell out of the building.

The glass is the same color on the north and south.

http://www.bryansereny.com/articleimages/marina-blue-condos1.jpg

Hey Bryan,

Any chance of some good close up shots of MarinaBlue? Would like to see the details of the terraces and the glass.:) :banana: Also, looks like 900 has started installing the glass railings and applying stucco on the lower levels.:banana:

yea, FAR AND MONEY is the reason why the backside looke the way it does, smart developer in my opinion.

They are actually only using half of the allowable FAR on that site

Where's the green glass ?

yea, FAR AND MONEY is the reason why the backside looke the way it does, smart developer in my opinion.

Yeah but stupid for the city for approving it...I prefer better buildings over happy developers any day...

They are actually only using half of the allowable FAR on that site

I am curious to know the source of your info on this point??

thanks,

I really don't think it will be that bad. Lets just wait and see when it is finished. Would you rather have a Met1 there? I will take MarinaBlue any day. Wait until it is finsihed, the front side will be awesome. Who in the heck is going to be looking at the back side anyway???:)

actually i would rather have met1 there, cuz then the current met1 site would be free and prone to a 1000 foot giant:)

I am curious to know the source of your info on this point??

thanks,

Page 2:
http://egov.ci.miami.fl.us/Legistarweb/Attachments/10979.pdf

Allowable: 1,440,600
Actual: 756,463

Page 2:
http://egov.ci.miami.fl.us/Legistarweb/Attachments/10979.pdf

Allowable: 1,440,600
Actual: 756,463

THanks! Great info!

So Marina Blue was originally called MIST?

YES

hyperion development was launched and his first project was BLUE on 36 street and his second was MIST on the bay which is now MARINA BLUE...

yea great info mileageman, but FAR still plays an important role even if it was not maxed out....more FAR, equals more impact fees,more taxes, etc...it probably cost about 10 million less to have the exposed halls.

Marina Blue Penthouse glass going in!!!

http://www.bryansereny.com/construction-photography/marina-blue-penthouse-glass.JPG

Hmm, maybe the glass is a bit greenish after all ?

There is a good reason; FAR. This site had finite number of sq ft "under A/C" that could be built. By having hallways on the exterior vs interior, there is more sq ft for sale thus maximizing the overall sell out of the building.

The glass is the same color on the north and south.

http://www.bryansereny.com/articleimages/marina-blue-condos1.jpg

Bryan:) , my friend,
Please go to www.emporis.com and check out:)
the latest Completed rendering THE BEST of
MarinaBlue:banana: condo with its latest finished colors, and Please
Put that picture here for everyone:) to see from Emporis,
Or can anyone:) Post that picture from there here.
I can't get it here to show everyone:lol: ,

Thanks Bryan and Everyone !!!:cheers:

here's a closer site for some help
http://www.emporis.com/en/il/im/?id=392204

P.S. Please Someone, post this picture here, Thanks !!

Sorry, I can't load that picture onto the message board, but emporis.com is a great website!! I have known about it for years now and it provides very accurate and detalied information about almost every skyscraper in the world.

Welcome back Chuck!

Welcome back Chuck!

Thanks PAUL:) , its been a long On-call month on my job, but its over and I've ' Alive Here:ohno: " again, lol.:lol:

P.s. PAUL:) , please loud this picture of MarinaBlue on here for me,
Thanks :cheers:

Sorry Chuck. Can't do it. Emporis blocks people from linking to their photos so that real estate websites don't all waste their bandwidth and profit off of their work...

I think those pics are the same as the MarinaBlue web-site. www.marinablue.com

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haha I still have the original Miami Herald article that showcased the MIST/Marina Blue project & the partners behind Hyperion Development.
At the time they were self financing but I don't know if that is true anymore.

Hmm, maybe the glass is a bit greenish after all ?

The glass you see in the photo I took above is covered with a protective tape. Once it is pealed off, it will look a little less blue, about the same as Blue.

http://www.bryansereny.com/articleimages/blue-condo-pool.jpg

somebody on here said that once the protective covering is peeled off, the glass was going to be somewhat greenish on the green side, and somewhat blueish on the blue side.

somebody on here said that once the protective covering is peeled off, the glass was going to be somewhat greenish on the green side, and somewhat blueish on the blue side.



That is what I was told by the sales office about a year ago. Who knows, things can change.:banana: :banana:

:) RX, my friend, Thanks again :banana: !!!
and everyone:) else,
We are so " _ " am lucky here to have all these Great Skysrcapers going up in our Magic City. :cheers:
over 50 Tower Construction Cranes to show the World , We are in the Top 5 Most construction Cities of the World:dj:
Go Cranes !!!:banana: :carrot: :pepper:
Welcome Back !!! The SuperBowl Now and 2010 !!!:dance:

Yea you guys, you are so damn lucky in Miami. So many new projects going up. Here in LA, very little if anything!

The glass is green, i've seen it myself, its just really light green, about the same color as brickell on the river at the moment the only place that doesn't have the protective blue covering is the lower balconies, and the other side is blue also...so don't worry guys the building will be blue and green but it wont be a dark blue and green but instead very light. And once residents move in and install curtains its not going to look as pretty.

I think someone requested this recently? The back side of Blue.

http://www.bryansereny.com/construction-photography/marina-blue-back.jpg

Bryan, nice shot. When was that taken? Have they started any of the finish stucco on the back side?

Going to have to agree, the front side is far more appealing. Nice pic Bryan

Bryan, nice shot. When was that taken? Have they started any of the finish stucco on the back side?

taken 2 days ago.

I dont understand why is everyone so surprised by it, we knew it would look like blue, which also has exposed hallways, so w/e'

I think it will look ok. Lets just wait until it is finished!!!!

From this morning...

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cool shot!!!!!

The fog was beautiful this morning. I have a couple of shots from Watson Island that I'll post later.

The fog was beautiful this morning. I have a couple of shots from Watson Island that I'll post later.

Please do! It's a rare and dramatic look that isn't often seen down there.

I love fog, it just adds an element of mystery to me. I used to live in Washington state. Lots of fog, was a great place.

James is GOOD:) !!!

my friend:banana: , that was a great camera shot on Your model plane, :lol: lol.

I did see that plane taxi on Biscayne bvld before it finally was clear for takeoff over the Freedom Tower:cheers: .

wow the balconies look really nice on Marina Blue. Really sleek and smooth. i didnt even notice they were there. It almost seems like theres no seperation between the units though... does anyone else see that? Maybe i should wait till the building is actually complete though to comment.

the balconies are 5' deep and will have deviders.

wow the balconies look really nice on Marina Blue. Really sleek and smooth. i didnt even notice they were there. It almost seems like theres no seperation between the units though... does anyone else see that? Maybe i should wait till the building is actually complete though to comment.

Here are a few pics taken 6/28/07 from the 55th floor of 900 and one from the street level.

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nice

the balconies are 5' deep and will have deviders.

What type of deviders? Clear or concrete?

I've never been a fan of balconies that you could walk over and shake hands with your neighbor. I like a little privacy.

What type of deviders? Clear or concrete?

I've never been a fan of balconies that you could walk over and shake hands with your neighbor. I like a little privacy.

I was told that the deviders were going to be floor to ceiling thick obscure glass.

900 Biscayne:) , Man your the best for the Day !!!
again my friend, Fantastic pics of Marina Blue condo tower,
It's like you own the tower:bowtie: ,

you see:speech: , it's great sometimes to bring back long not used threads from the past, and update them at Later times.

Great job, again:applause: ,
" Pics of the Day "
:dance:

Great photos, thanks!

I was told that the deviders were going to be floor to ceiling thick obscure glass.

I was also wondering about the dividers on the balconies. I live at OneMiami now and I have total privacy from neighboring units. This is a BIG PLUS!

I wonder how much privacy some glass dividers will give you?

Anyone going to take a preview tour of Marina Blue? Very curious how this building is coming along. It looks like 50 Biscayne is going finish first. Anyone know when Marina Blue will start closings?

Several months ago they were planning on November TCO's. The TCO's come floor by floor, so you don't need to finish the entire building to start closings. But you do need to pass all of the life safety tests to get them. We are talking water, sewer, fire, and elevators primarily. It isn't easy on such a big condo.

Mind you, the projected TCO date went from April to May to June and then back to Novemeber in one big jump.

Anyone going to take a preview tour of Marina Blue? Very curious how this building is coming along. It looks like 50 Biscayne is going finish first. Anyone know when Marina Blue will start closings?

I was in Miami and toured Ten Museum. I was unable to view anything at Marina Blue, however. :ohno:

I was told end of this year. I really want to see this building.

Looks like the protective window film is coming down on MarinaBlue. :banana: :banana:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/mbglass.jpg

Check out this 8:30 am photo I took of Marina Blue in October 2007

http://www.bryansereny.com/marina-blue/Marina-Blue-condo-october-2007.jpg

Nice photo. When are residents supposed to start moving in and is the coating on the windows off yet?

Nice shot Bryan.

I wish the difference between blue and green glass was a little bit more perceptible.

Nice shot Bryan.

I wish the difference between blue and green glass was a little bit more perceptible.


Maybe you will see more of a difference when the sun hits it just right???

Marina Blue is looking real nice.:banana: :banana: Any sneak peeks of the lobby and pool areas??

I just feel this building and some of the others have to much glass. Those apartments are going to be ovens, using a lot of electricity. Furthermore, with every hurricane there will be more damage, furthering increasing insurance costs. I wish some architects would build these buildings with a little more sensebility to the tropical environment. This Biscayne wall is going to be a wall of glass, and glass cracks ( or breaks).

What you guys think?

they are only allowed to use glass that can withstand winds past 200 MPH..
so even the strongest cat.5 can't break them..anything else is supposedly illegal in south FL. that is from what I remember back when Hurricane Wilma hit us..the only problem are the older buildings that were built before that regulation came out..they still have whatever glass.

The windows they use have a film sandwiched between two panes of glass that helps blocking UV A and B rays. So they are pretty much insulated. Also, as Vision pointed out, they are rated to withstand impact from object traveling at hurricane speeds.

Marina is looking real nice :banana:

I just feel this building and some of the others have to much glass. Those apartments are going to be ovens, using a lot of electricity. Furthermore, with every hurricane there will be more damage, furthering increasing insurance costs. I wish some architects would build these buildings with a little more sensebility to the tropical environment. This Biscayne wall is going to be a wall of glass, and glass cracks ( or breaks).

What you guys think?

These units will not be ovens.
-First of all, the only time when direct sun will get inside these condos is from sunrise to about 9:30 or 10:00. People usually sleep with blackout curtains drawn.
-Second, the units face east, and most people work 9-5 so they will come home to very pleasant views of the city and bay.

Miami is all about the views so the more glass the better. At Marina Blue's sister building, Blue Condo (http://www.bluecondorealty.com), the 12 line has 27 floor to ceiling glass windows and is spectacular. I've never heard an owner complain that there was too much glass.

Note that Blue did not lose a single window during the 2005 hurricane season. :banana:

If I had a unit there I would not bother with curtains and let the sun greet me every morning... too much glass? ARE YOU NUTS!!!!

If I had a unit there I would not bother with curtains and let the sun greet me every morning... too much glass? ARE YOU NUTS!!!!

Thank You.

That's like too much love. or too much beauty?

Lyrics from a country song go, "I aint never heard of havin to much fun, thats like a girl too pretty with too much class.........."

While I'm sure we all share your love of country western music, the correct spelling is too. Too pretty with too much class.

On the 8th day, God said: Let there be hooked on phonics! :ohno:

Nvm, I'll let you have your fun.

Thank You.

That's like too much love. or too much beauty?

This is what I was replying to btw.

While I'm sure we all share your love of country western music, the correct spelling is too. Too pretty with too much class.

On the 8th day, God said: Let there be hooked on phonics! :ohno:

So much tension in here... can't we all just get along??? LOL

:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:


When are the closings for Marina Blue scheduled to start? It should be well into 2008 from the looks of the construction progress.

So much tension in here... can't we all just get along??? LOL

:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

I try:ohno:

If I had a unit there I would not bother with curtains and let the sun greet me every morning... too much glass? ARE YOU NUTS!!!! here here :cheers:

Any updates on Marina Blue?

Drove by yesterday, the back side is still ghetto fabulous...lol. They added the bars on the bottom of the blue half, the front has some nice details, different levels, stairs, glass everywhere...coming out very nice.

Drove by yesterday, the back side is still ghetto fabulous...lol. They added the bars on the bottom of the blue half, the front has some nice details, different levels, stairs, glass everywhere...coming out very nice.

So when do you think they will start closings? Compared to 50 Biscayne when they started closings, how far along is Marina Blue?

I dont see any closings happening until spring or summer but thats just based on my observation not any insider info.

I have no idea...remember that they were announcing that they were "opening summer 07." We'll just have to wait and see.

I dont see any closings happening until spring or summer but thats just based on my observation not any insider info.


Your observations always seem valid to me tallerthebetter.

you'd be suprised at just how incomplete a building can be yet get a TCO for residential floors which is all you need to close.

Your observations always seem valid to me tallerthebetter.

Thank you kind Sir

Your observations always seem valid to me tallerthebetter.

Same here. "Taller" is consistently a great poster. No agenda...no fudging the truth. Just good, solid info and educated opinions.

You guys are gonna make me blush.

Just wondering, is this building complete yet? And if not, when should we expect it to be? When will residents be able to start moving in?

A friend of mine just told me that he received notice for the developer that Marina Blue will start closings Nov. 15th. Sounds early to me!!!!

A friend of mine just told me that he received notice for the developer that Marina Blue will start closings Nov. 15th. Sounds early to me!!!!


That is SCARY! That building is far from being complete! :ohno:

According to Art, the construction liaison for Hyperion, Marina Blue (http://www.bryansereny.com/marina-blue-condo.cfm) will start closing before the end of the year.

According to Art, the construction liaison for Hyperion, Marina Blue (http://www.bryansereny.com/marina-blue-condo.cfm) will start closing before the end of the year.


Hey Bryan,

Have any progress photos? I am curious how this building is coming along.

Lots of Internet problems...more to come...

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wow.... very cool!!!

arch, the street view looks amazing from that photo. I hope you fix your computer troubles; I can't wait to see more of MarinaBlue. No offense to 900Biscayneguy, but MarinaBlue is my favorite building on the wall. I remember gawking over its rendering on Emporis back in 2005 and like you all, I've been waiting impatiently to see it completed. :)

Remove this post, please :shifty: ... it's my mistake.

I LOVE Marinablue!!!! It is one sexy tower!

arch, the street view looks amazing from that photo. I hope you fix your computer troubles; I can't wait to see more of MarinaBlue. No offense to 900Biscayneguy, but MarinaBlue is my favorite building on the wall. I remember gawking over its rendering on Emporis back in 2005 and like you all, I've been waiting impatiently to see it completed. :)

Hey DShoost...no offense taken.. MarinaBlue is a beautiful tower. I like the glass front exterior much better than 900. I think the wavy wall is amazing!:banana:

Nice pics! Are those marks on the glass part of the design? It looks like cement or paint hand prints, but I can't really tell.

Is this part of the protective film or is that the final look or the glass?

Atlantic broadband may not have me up and running for a week or more. Every so often I can squeak out a communication on dlink.

BUT....... I livein Miami NOW!!:banana:

900BG-- yours are coming up!! And dshoost will change his mind!:lol:

Hey DShoost...no offense taken.. MarinaBlue is a beautiful tower. I like the glass front exterior much better than 900. I think the wavy wall is amazing!:banana:

Marina Blue is nice but...

Marina Blue balconies 5 feet deep :ohno:

900 Biscayne balconies 10 ft deep :)

Well that's another feature of MarinaBlue that gets me; it seems very linear and uniform along each wall up, and I dig that it's not so big on the balconies. I mean, the big balconies are nice for every other condominium u/c in the city, but it's refreshing to be inside your condo unit and have less obstructed views. Say for instance from balcony furniture or the 10-foot deep ceiling from the balcony above yours... things that will occur for 900 residents.

I don't mean to complain. The whole wall is absolutely jaw-dropping. From the sexy sleek intro on Biscayne N @ Marquis to the sexier, aquatic, purely Miami diagonal face of MarinaBlue, the Wall is something unique and, once completed, will hopefully become one of the most recognizable and post-card-worthy destinations in the world.

Well that's another feature of MarinaBlue that gets me; it seems very linear and uniform along each wall up, and I dig that it's not so big on the balconies. I mean, the big balconies are nice for every other condominium u/c in the city, but it's refreshing to be inside your condo unit and have less obstructed views. Say for instance from balcony furniture or the 10-foot deep ceiling from the balcony above yours... things that will occur for 900 residents.

I don't mean to complain. The whole wall is absolutely jaw-dropping. From the sexy sleek intro on Biscayne N @ Marquis to the sexier, aquatic, purely Miami diagonal face of MarinaBlue, the Wall is something unique and, once completed, will hopefully become one of the most recognizable and post-card-worthy destinations in the world.

Very nice point D- Some corner units I have seen have wrap around balconies that put the view too far away...fromevery window. I would like a combo of sheer glass and deepbalcony...someday.

There is no doubt that you end up getting more out of the window views while being inside the apartment than the view from being on the actual balcony. You spend most of your time inside the condo. The all glass design of Marina Blue gives you a nice view without having to go out on your balcony.

I agree that having both would be the ultimate. An all glass corner unit with a large balcony/patio off to one side would be heaven!

Well that's another feature of MarinaBlue that gets me; it seems very linear and uniform along each wall up, and I dig that it's not so big on the balconies. I mean, the big balconies are nice for every other condominium u/c in the city, but it's refreshing to be inside your condo unit and have less obstructed views. Say for instance from balcony furniture or the 10-foot deep ceiling from the balcony above yours... things that will occur for 900 residents.

I don't mean to complain. The whole wall is absolutely jaw-dropping. From the sexy sleek intro on Biscayne N @ Marquis to the sexier, aquatic, purely Miami diagonal face of Marina Blue (http://www.bryansereny.com/marina-blue-condo.cfm), the Wall is something unique and, once completed, will hopefully become one of the most recognizable and post-card-worthy destinations in the world.

I'd have to disagree with this assessment. I work with hundreds of buyers and without a doubt large balconies are preferred. Living in SF condos is all about the water views and outdoor living space. SF is a natural winter escape for many Americans who come here to enjoy the climate. I have been in 900 Biscayne a number of times and can tell you that the views are spectacular. One point you guys seam to have looked over is the fact that 900 has 10' ceilings and on most floors Marina Blue does not. This makes a big difference! I am a big fan of both buildings but there is not comparison, although not as cool looking from the outside, 900 Biscayne is the superior building.

900BG-- yours are coming up!! And dshoost will change his mind!:lol:
900 Biscayne is absoutely hot. Inside and out. Marina Blue is good.

Everyone says 900 is very nice on the inside.....WHO has been in? Please describe what you saw and let me know how I do the same??? Are they showing units? What are your feelings of the interior? And will someone find out if the roof feature will be added?!?!

Everyone says 900 is very nice on the inside.....WHO has been in? Please describe what you saw and let me know how I do the same??? Are they showing units? What are your feelings of the interior? And will someone find out if the roof feature will be added?!?!

Some pictures and video of 900 Biscayne:

http://blog.miamicondoinvestments.com/2007/08/20/900-biscayne-bay-sneak-peak-at-a-luxury-miami-preconstruction-condo-building-pictures-video/


If I find more, I will post.

Where is the crowning on top?

Where is the crowning on top?

Yeah, does anyone have an answer for the 900 Biscayne crown?

Also, does anyone know if Marina Blue will have any special lighting on the building or crown to look more like the renderings?

Anyone been inside the building yet?

Some street level pics taken 11/24/07. I think MarinaBlue is looking great!!! More pics to come!!

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/IMG_0112-1.jpg

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Thanks for the pics Albert.....I just have one issue....during pre-sales,each of the buildings along the wall hyped the fact they would have sidewalk restaurants.....To me, it doesn't look like 10 museum or MB have created much of a pedestrian, restaurant, side-walk dining experience. Is is just me??? We will probably never see restaurant activity along Biscayne.....just my opinion.

Thanks for the pics Albert.....I just have one issue....during pre-sales,each of the buildings along the wall hyped the fact they would have sidewalk restaurants.....To me, it doesn't look like 10 museum or MB have created much of a pedestrian, restaurant, side-walk dining experience. Is is just me??? We will probably never see restaurant activity along Biscayne.....just my opinion.

Hey Downtowner,

Look at the far left side of the last picture... that area is slated for restaurants and retail. It is hard to see, but there is a lot of Biscayne Blvd. frontage for restaurants.:lol::lol:

Her are some more pics of MarinaBlue. Some of the Lobby, tower, and retail areas. Lots of work still to be done.



http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/IMG_0116.jpg

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I love the wavy wall.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/IMG_0109-1.jpg

^^Awesome pics. Thanks! :banana:

What a Piece of shit...

Raising the entrance of MB those 4 feet along with the guardrail will essentially kill any hope of making the street frontage of MB pedestrian friendly. Plain and simple facts from William Whyte's PPS would tell anyone that this is a recipe for disaster, a planning blunder which will further relegate MB into a condo inaccessible to anything but a vehicle...

^I was thinking the same thing when I viewed these pictures--why on Earth would they "guard" the buildiing from the streetscape? I was hoping these buildings would take advantage of the oversized sidewalks and open restaurant spaces with outdoor seating along Biscayne.

I think the raised space inside the rail is the space to be used for the restaurants. They usually like to have a rail or something preventing people from just walking in (or out easily without paying). Being raised 4 feet if unnecessary. Its not perfect but it looks a lot better than 10MP or 900Bisc's street scapes.

I think the raised space inside the rail is the space to be used for the restaurants. They usually like to have a rail or something preventing people from just walking in (or out easily without paying).

Ocean Drive?

I think the raised space inside the rail is the space to be used for the restaurants. They usually like to have a rail or something preventing people from just walking in (or out easily without paying). Being raised 4 feet if unnecessary. Its not perfect but it looks a lot better than 10MP or 900Bisc's street scapes.

I saw 900...what's wrong with 10MP? I haven't seen any recent shots of 10MP's streetscape...

Ocean Drive?

I know and Lincoln Road is the same way, sidewalk cafe's that straddle a sidewalk that passes between them and their restaurants. I was thinking more of the way its done on places with wide sidewalks like New York and Boston. Their sidewalk cafes always have a railing, usually a waiste hight iron gate that forms the perimeter of where the tables are with an opening that serves as the entrance to the cafe area. They usually are not elevated above the street level though. The gate is usually more of a demarcation of where private property starts and public property ends.

If the elevated portion of the sidewalk is used for outside tables, music and that type of stuff, I dont really see a problem with it.

If the elevated portion of the sidewalk is used for outside tables, music and that type of stuff, I dont really see a problem with it.

There is a huge problem with it...It's a major setback which prevents any real activity from happening along the sidewalk. In the end it will deter pedestrians from walking along the boulevard... This isn't just some crazy BS talk, it's been studied extensively and concluded to be a mental deterrent to the pedestrian psyche...

There is a huge problem with it...It's a major setback which prevents any real activity from happening along the sidewalk. In the end it will deter pedestrians from walking along the boulevard... This isn't just some crazy BS talk, it's been studied extensively and concluded to be a mental deterrent to the pedestrian psyche...


Maybe it was designed to give better views. Instead of looking out at 6 lanes of traffic, maybe they wanted to elevate it a little, pehaps to see the bay? I thought I looked great.:ohno: I think we need to relax and wait until it is finished and see the finished product.

3 feet won't make a difference...it will barely secure a view over most vehicles...

Toucano is right--it is bad design 101.

Good:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/bdurden/07ga.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/bdurden/42.jpg

Bad:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/bdurden/46m.jpg

Is is just me??? We will probably never see restaurant activity along Biscayne.....just my opinion. Yep...it's just you!!!
Each of the buildings on Biscayne within the brackets of the Metromover have restaurant/retail on their ground floors. In fact, US1 was shifted to the East to accomadate larger sidewalks for that purpose.
Currently, there is an effort to streamline the restaurant permitting and impact fee expedition in what is being called the Cafe District along Biscayne.
We are going to see restaurant activity along Biscayne Boulevard. Count on it.

^I was thinking the same thing when I viewed these pictures--why on Earth would they "guard" the buildiing from the streetscape? Because there needs to be elevation to protect damage associated with storm surge and flash flooding. Similar to just about every building on Brickell, and every building on Ocean Drive.
The sidewalk in front of TMP is huge. There is ample room for pedestrian ingress and egress and more seating than NEXXT Cafe on Lincoln Road.
Be patient and watch how it unfolds.

...

^^:cheers::banana:

Roark speaks truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cheers:

I am one of the Buyers awaiting a closing date on MarinaBlue. In Los Angeles so I can't drop by for status.

Not hearing much and the Wachovia Webcam is off-line. Anyone else out ther in the same boat?

Which forum is best for news?

I am one of the Buyers awaiting a closing date on MarinaBlue. In Los Angeles so I can't drop by for status.

Not hearing much and the Wachovia Webcam is off-line. Anyone else out ther in the same boat?

Which forum is best for news?

I drove by there today and it still looks like it needs a lot of work. I hope they don't do the same thing they did at Ten Museum Park.

Did some shopping - so much panic on the internet, I tried to find a better deal.

There isn't anything in Miami - not even a preconstruction. Nothing with any altitude and a view for under $395/sqft.

Getting excited about those long awaited maragritas on the balcony!

Lots of great photos out there - it looks amazing!!!!!!!!

Did some shopping - so much panic on the internet, I tried to find a better deal.

There isn't anything in Miami - not even a preconstruction. Nothing with any altitude and a view for under $395/sqft.

Getting excited about those long awaited maragritas on the balcony!

Lots of great photos out there - it looks amazing!!!!!!!!

Sweet! and enjoy it well! :cheers:

Did some shopping - so much panic on the internet, I tried to find a better deal.

There isn't anything in Miami - not even a preconstruction. Nothing with any altitude and a view for under $395/sqft.

Getting excited about those long awaited maragritas on the balcony!

Lots of great photos out there - it looks amazing!!!!!!!!

Sweet! What floor you on?

I have a unit on the 44th floor of the tall tower in MarinaBlue.

My understanding is that I will be in the first round of closing. The first TCO is supposed to be for the 46th floor and below.

Still have no date.

^^Congrats Man! Nice building.:cheers:

Marina Blue developers face lawsuits:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/26/business/26real.html?em&ex=1198818000&en=fba389e814a9dae8&ei=5087%0A

Marina Blue developers face lawsuits:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/12/25/business/real.php

It looks like the lawsuits are about Blue though, not Marina Blue (they STILL haven't built most of the amenities of that building...).

Dave, I agree. I toured Blue a year ago. Did not seem horrible to me. It could use some more exciting amenities, but when Blue started sales at the low 200ks...I am not sure what you expect at that price point. What gets me about this article, is that they take some "real estate consultant" who makes predictions and they print it like its carved in stone. Oh well, I guess it is what makes news. I know you can't please everyone and there will always be lawsuits with any project.

Dave, I agree. I toured Blue a year ago. Did not seem horrible to me. It could use some more exciting amenities, but when Blue started sales at the low 200ks...I am not sure what you expect at that price point. What gets me about this article, is that they take some "real estate consultant" who makes predictions and they print it like its carved in stone. Oh well, I guess it is what makes news. I know you can't please everyone and there will always be lawsuits with any project.You got that right! There probably isn't a single development in the last 10 years that didn't have some lawsuit or another.
A few items of note: They quoted that Blue had 26% of the units on the market, that is about 8% less than 6 months ago. That probably means that the units are getting absorbed. 10-15% is healthy.
The other, the infinitely wise Jack McCabe NOW estimates that 25% of the buyers in Marina Blue won't close, when about a year ago, his number was more like 80% of all the condos in downtown.
I've been posting for 3 years that the walk away number is more like the inverse of that 80% speculator number. Nice to see that he is coming around to reality.
Blue has always been a challenged building because of it's location, that location is very inferior to Marina Blue and it is a shame that the journalist compares the two places as if they were comparable.

Roark,

Do you think that there is a effort to scare buyers not to close in hopes of some of these "vulture funds" wanting to scoop up these units for dirt cheap and resale them a few years down the road? I had read that some of the vulture funds are mad/disapointed because they have not been able to get dirt cheap units in prime locations for what they had planned on.

Roark,Do you think that there is a effort to scare buyers not to close in hopes of some of these "vulture funds" wanting to scoop up these units for dirt cheap and resale them a few years down the road? I had read that some of the vulture funds are mad/disapointed because they have not been able to get dirt cheap units in prime locations for what they had planned on. I'm not much of a conspiracy theorists...but I do know that the biggest proponent of the "80% speculators in downtown preconstruction" guy is an often quoted analyst with a vulture fund. He has been so dead wrong with the analysis of the CBD/Brickell area, it makes you wonder how/why he sticks to his guns. Although it was not from the horses mouth, someone whom i have a great amount of respect tells me that this same analyst from Deerfield has been buying in the Downtown Miami pre-con market.

guys, this may be a stupid question or im missing something, but how can anyone or any group scare people into not closing? someone who cannot afford or get financed for something he or she bought is one thing, but...

guys, this may be a stupid question or im missing something, but how can anyone or any group scare people into not closing? someone who cannot afford or get financed for something he or she bought is one thing, but......yeah right...so you'd think.
Novices get scared and emotional...even the ones that have enough money to close and carry a property. They may also believe that we are not even close to the bottom. Couple that with a new herd of lawyers that promise to be able to break the contract and get deposits back, and voila more panic and overreaction.
Most residential Realtors will tell you, "Location, location, location". Commercial Real Estate investors and developers will tell you that the three most important elements to a purchase are, "Location, location, timing".
For those that bought Marina Blue at the earlier price lists...have no fear.

...yeah right...so you'd think.
Novices get scared and emotional...even the ones that have enough money to close and carry a property. They may also believe that we are not even close to the bottom.

Roark,

I'm curious, how far into the "cycle" do you think we are? I'm a novice, but to me it seems that things will get worse as many of the new buildings begin to come online in the next six months. Do you disagree? I'd love to hear your thinking on this.

- T

Ouch...What a Piece of shit...
Raising the entrance of MB those 4 feet along with the guardrail will essentially kill any hope of making the street frontage of MB pedestrian friendly. Plain and simple facts from William Whyte's PPS would tell anyone that this is a recipe for disaster, a planning blunder which will further relegate MB into a condo inaccessible to anything but a vehicle...
Ooof...this is harsh too...
^I was thinking the same thing when I viewed these pictures--why on Earth would they "guard" the buildiing from the streetscape? I was hoping these buildings would take advantage of the oversized sidewalks and open restaurant spaces with outdoor seating along Biscayne.
With all due respect to the urban planning from textbook, you fellas just might be jumping the gun on your disdain without looking at the sidewalks, streets, or elevated lobbies that you are deriding.
Thanks to brother Jamesgood, we can see the sidewalks, the elevated entryways (that protect from flooding), the traffic calming parking spaces, the non-"random" shade tree planters, and the beautiful pavers.
For those patient enough not to blow a gasket, these sidewalks will be loaded with pedestrians, tables, and inviting plant life. It will be referred to as the Cafe district. Note: These sidewalks are 7 to 10 times deeper than those in front of every elevated entry on Ocean Drive.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2390/2154906457_0f24887dd0_b.jpg

But what the heck is up with Ten Museums park?!!?
By the way I totally agree with ya Roark.

MIAMI IS ON FIRE!!!

You got that right! There probably isn't a single development in the last 10 years that didn't have some lawsuit or another.
A few items of note: They quoted that Blue had 26% of the units on the market, that is about 8% less than 6 months ago. That probably means that the units are getting absorbed. 10-15% is healthy.
The other, the infinitely wise Jack McCabe NOW estimates that 25% of the buyers in Marina Blue won't close, when about a year ago, his number was more like 80% of all the condos in downtown.
I've been posting for 3 years that the walk away number is more like the inverse of that 80% speculator number. Nice to see that he is coming around to reality.
Blue has always been a challenged building because of it's location, that location is very inferior to Marina Blue and it is a shame that the journalist compares the two places as if they were comparable.

Well, I see the idiot condo conversion sales "Director" (very important to his ego) has posted some more lies, exaggerations, and realtor fluff and puff stuff.
Roark, I look forward to the day when I can look you in the eyes and tell you what an arrogant, pompous ass you are. I know you must thank god every night for the skyscraper website for the inflation it allows your ego. In S. Florida, you are a nothing nobody that no one is aware of outside of the Flamingo. You're rumor like quotes in your post are incorrect lies, and your viewpoint on the condo market in Miami is hallucinogenic. you crash and burn this year.

Well, I see the idiot condo conversion sales "Director" (very important to his ego) has posted some more lies, exaggerations, and realtor fluff and puff stuff.
Roark, I look forward to the day when I can look you in the eyes and tell you what an arrogant, pompous ass you are. I know you must thank god every night for the skyscraper website for the inflation it allows your ego. In S. Florida, you are a nothing nobody that no one is aware of outside of the Flamingo. You're rumor like quotes in your post are incorrect lies, and your viewpoint on the condo market in Miami is hallucinogenic. you crash and burn this year.

How are you doing? I hope you're doing good. Let me say just one thing here; I didn't quite understand your post. You're not making any sense sir. Your words are jumbled and placed in a manner that not even a scholar of insignificant writings could decipher. Are you dyslexic? I'm sorry to hear that if you are. I would like to know what lies I have said as well?

Now over to Roark. I do not know him however, I'm sure calling him an arrogant pompous ass is extremely judgmental. Let's break down that statement shall we. You wrote, "Roark, I look forward to the day when I can look you in the eyes and tell you what an arrogant, pompous ass you are." First and foremost, people who say these things first on a message board will not meet any one in person. So, for you to say that you look forward to the to look Roark in the eyes, says nothing to me and everyone else here except maybe you're a gay man and want to look deeply into Roark's eyes. Watch yourself Roark. Second, you called him a arrogant pompous ass. Well, any one who calls themselves RE Expert on a skyscraper message board seems to me to be very pompous. I can tell you're arrogant because you write like a five year old and are not interested in any one else's view point. (Whether or not it is correct.) How can you make a sound opinion or judgment when you do not know both sides. That's all for right now. I hope you have a wonderful day. Take care RE Expert.





P.S. - A lot of people on are not in the real estate game and some are, however we come on here and talk to each other because we love buildings, architecture and our city. Yes we make mistakes and have our arguments but we are here for the same reason. Miami is only getting started. Oh and one last thing. You see I do mean I will meet you, so if you want to call me a liar and or pass the phrase that you stated about Roark onto me I would relish in the fact I could meet you RE Expert. So if you'd like pick a time and place, not to crowded now, because I would like to meet you the RE Expert who knows all. But this will not be date RE Expert so don't get your hopes up. Sorry. But let me know if you'd like to meet in a none crowded place. :cheers::nuts::nuts::cheers:

On another note...have closings begun at Marina Blue? Any updates?

I hear that MarinaBlue still plans to close with the first TCO starting from the 46th floor and below. But won't be all those units, just a column of units down the middle.

Nothing has closed yet. I am flying down there next week to see what's going on for myself. It must be imminent.

Any truth to the rumor that closings have been delayed?

The first review of MarinaBlue is in.....and it is pretty good. Looks like they have just some loose ends to finish up in the lobby and the sky beach.

Look for yourself:

http://blog.miamicondorealty.com

The views are amazing!!!

What 1 story is that to the right of Marina Blue? I can't get over the size differential! How old is that building too? It had to have been there for decades. I hope high level retail moves into Downtown Miami similar to 5th Avenue in New York, if it hasn't begun already. (I've only been to Miami 3 times, and spent about 3 hours downtown, but that should be changing this summer. :))

What 1 story is that to the right of Marina Blue? I can't get over the size differential! How old is that building too? It had to have been there for decades. I hope high level retail moves into Downtown Miami similar to 5th Avenue in New York, if it hasn't begun already. (I've only been to Miami 3 times, and spent about 3 hours downtown, but that should be changing this summer. :))

I wouldn't spend much time worrying about it becoming like Fifth Avenue (not unless Rockefeller Center, Bergdorf-Goodman, NBC News, Conan O'Brien, David Letterman, Tiffany's, Saks, Trump, Central Park, The Plaza, FAO Schwartz and a tangle of subway lines are on the horizon) but let's hope that at least there's fewer dingy places selling overpriced electronics under sketchy circumstances and more classy retail that looks more solid than a popcorn stand.

Miami has made a lot of progress on that front...with still a LONG way to go. I think anybody honest would say as much. We can do much better.

As for the Manhattan comparisons, c'mon. We seriously have to stop that stuff (for the simple reason there IS no comparison) and just focus on how Miami can grow into itself and be the city it CAN be.

You want New York? Move there. Seriously, I mean that...and not in a bad way at all. Miami will never, ever look, feel, or act anything like it. Totally different dynamics and you're kidding yourself if you think it will ever be even remotely as big...or as important...or whatever...ever. It just isn't. And cities like New York or Tokyo or wherever are just getting exponentially bigger. This isn't a game of "catching up" for the simple reason they never slow down.

But so what...y'know? Miami is GORGEOUS. It sits in such a beautiful location, blessed by a front porch made of water and twinkling lights. It's resilient---always overcoming every setback---always reinventing itself into something more interesting.

Celebrate Miami for what it is. Argue for it to be better. The comparisons to elsewhere don't advance either ideal. :cheers:

I wouldn't spend much time worrying about it becoming like Fifth Avenue (not unless Rockefeller Center, Bergdorf-Goodman, NBC News, Conan O'Brien

Conan is moving to LA, he will be taking over The Tonight Show next year. I think one reason many people like to use the NY comparison is because there are so many New Yorkers down here either on vacation, business or transplants. They don't call Miami the sixth Borough for nothing.

I wouldn't spend much time worrying about it becoming like Fifth Avenue (not unless Rockefeller Center, Bergdorf-Goodman, NBC News, Conan O'Brien, David Letterman, Tiffany's, Saks, Trump, Central Park, The Plaza, FAO Schwartz and a tangle of subway lines are on the horizon) but let's hope that at least there's fewer dingy places selling overpriced electronics under sketchy circumstances and more classy retail that looks more solid than a popcorn stand.

Miami has made a lot of progress on that front...with still a LONG way to go. I think anybody honest would say as much. We can do much better.

As for the Manhattan comparisons, c'mon. We seriously have to stop that stuff (for the simple reason there IS no comparison) and just focus on how Miami can grow into itself and be the city it CAN be.

You want New York? Move there. Seriously, I mean that...and not in a bad way at all. Miami will never, ever look, feel, or act anything like it. Totally different dynamics and you're kidding yourself if you think it will ever be even remotely as big...or as important...or whatever...ever. It just isn't. And cities like New York or Tokyo or wherever are just getting exponentially bigger. This isn't a game of "catching up" for the simple reason they never slow down.

But so what...y'know? Miami is GORGEOUS. It sits in such a beautiful location, blessed by a front porch made of water and twinkling lights. It's resilient---always overcoming every setback---always reinventing itself into something more interesting.

Celebrate Miami for what it is. Argue for it to be better. The comparisons to elsewhere don't advance either ideal. :cheers:





Well, said. :cheers:

Conan is moving to LA, he will be taking over The Tonight Show next year. I think one reason many people like to use the NY comparison is because there are so many New Yorkers down here either on vacation, business or transplants. They don't call Miami the sixth Borough for nothing.

Yeah...I understand the dynamics behind it but it's always bugged me. Let's not forget the flip-side, too. A LOT of those New Yorkers seemed to spend an inordinate amount of time belittling South Florida...despite having lived there for years. Anyone who has ever been a resident there has heard it, I'm sure.

In any regard, any "comparison" is just pointless and silly, imo. Miami isn't nearly the megalopolis that NYC is but neither is anybody else except for a precious few around the planet. There's nothing negative about that at all. It is what it is.

I'd much prefer a Miami that celebrates (and improves) the things that make it unique and wonderful, not one that constantly needs to see how it measures up against places it isn't in any competition with.

Yeah...I understand the dynamics behind it but it's always bugged me. Let's not forget the flip-side, too. A LOT of those New Yorkers seemed to spend an inordinate amount of time belittling South Florida...despite having lived there for years. Anyone who has ever been a resident there has heard it, I'm sure.

In any regard, any "comparison" is just pointless and silly, imo. Miami isn't nearly the megalopolis that NYC is but neither is anybody else except for a precious few around the planet. There's nothing negative about that at all. It is what it is.

I'd much prefer a Miami that celebrates (and improves) the things that make it unique and wonderful, not one that constantly needs to see how it measures up against places it isn't in any competition with.

Yes but I would love for Miami to look at NYC as a big brother; I want it to be a role model. Hopefully we can learn all of the good that NYC can teach us and none of the bad. :cheers:

I wouldn't spend much time worrying about it becoming like Fifth Avenue (not unless Rockefeller Center, Bergdorf-Goodman, NBC News, Conan O'Brien, David Letterman, Tiffany's, Saks, Trump, Central Park, The Plaza, FAO Schwartz and a tangle of subway lines are on the horizon) but let's hope that at least there's fewer dingy places selling overpriced electronics under sketchy circumstances and more classy retail that looks more solid than a popcorn stand.

Miami has made a lot of progress on that front...with still a LONG way to go. I think anybody honest would say as much. We can do much better.

As for the Manhattan comparisons, c'mon. We seriously have to stop that stuff (for the simple reason there IS no comparison) and just focus on how Miami can grow into itself and be the city it CAN be.

You want New York? Move there. Seriously, I mean that...and not in a bad way at all. Miami will never, ever look, feel, or act anything like it. Totally different dynamics and you're kidding yourself if you think it will ever be even remotely as big...or as important...or whatever...ever. It just isn't. And cities like New York or Tokyo or wherever are just getting exponentially bigger. This isn't a game of "catching up" for the simple reason they never slow down.

But so what...y'know? Miami is GORGEOUS. It sits in such a beautiful location, blessed by a front porch made of water and twinkling lights. It's resilient---always overcoming every setback---always reinventing itself into something more interesting.

Celebrate Miami for what it is. Argue for it to be better. The comparisons to elsewhere don't advance either ideal. :cheers:

Thanks for answering my original question about what that 1 or 2 story building was. And I never said I wanted Miami to be IDENTICAL to NY. All I was doing was touting classy high end retail. Is that so bad? Calm the hell down. I just came back from my first trip to NY, and liked the fact that stores typically found in suburban stores were integrated into a dense area, and lacked parking lots. And, I do think Miami is beautiful. No need to slam me. Shit...

Thanks for answering my original question about what that 1 or 2 story building was. And I never said I wanted Miami to be IDENTICAL to NY. All I was doing was touting classy high end retail. Is that so bad? Calm the hell down. I just came back from my first trip to NY, and liked the fact that stores typically found in suburban stores were integrated into a dense area, and lacked parking lots. And, I do think Miami is beautiful. No need to slam me. Shit...

No intent to slam you at all and sorry if you took it that way.

I just went on a long ramble in that post because the "comparison" thing has always bugged me. Wasn't directed at you at all, friend---I was talking in generalities with the "move there" stuff---but I can see why you might have read it that way. Not my best writing job here and I should have been more clear on that. :cheers:

it's cool.

what is that tiny building on the northside of MB? A gas sation?

it's cool.

what is that tiny building on the northside of MB? A gas sation?

Well, the folks still living down there could answer that but--yep--I think it's a BP station that's been there for years.

^^ That is correct.

danm it that amazing

the tower came down oh my gosh

Anyone toured this building yet?

the tower came down oh my gosh

Huh???

Anyone toured this building yet?



two days ago i passed by and i saw part of the tower down. i don't have more information. but i can tell you that not all the tower came down. just part of it. less than a floor.

what tower? what is the name?

what tower? what is the name?

You must be referring to one of the cranes???

Well, the folks still living down there could answer that but--yep--I think it's a BP station that's been there for years.

SPELLBOUND:),
our friend:banana:,
and that same BP gas station:bash: will be there another 10 years with the MIAMI PAWN shop still behind it 10 years from now, with the same idiot owners who won't sell that property, , which is owned together as one.:bash:

p.s. it's a " HOT " gas station , it's the only one around that area, There's NO other Gas station in the Downtown Business Central Area !!!

I think someone should give him an offer he can't refuse! :gunz:

Some MarinaBlue updates.

Taken 2/4/08.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/pjmb1.jpg


1/17/08
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/mb777.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/mb888.jpg

Lookin good.

closings begin!

:banana:

I hear they got the first of 3 TCO's. I have a unit on the 44th floor near the center - so that is supposed to be in the first round.

Haven't heard anything about a closing date yet. But there is definitely rumors that closings have already occured. It will be interesting how this all plays out this year.

First Closing occured Wednesday 2/27/2008 at 9:00pm.

This building is looking better and better every day! I hope 900 Biscayne and Marquis meet up to it.

Are they going to clad the side of the parking garage like in the renderings? It looked like a rather ugly base for a beautiful tower on my visit to Miami a few weeks ago. Great city, and even greater towers, though Miami has a long ways to go imo (tons of vacant lots, too many poor areas, needs better public transportation!). One of the most beautiful cities in the world!!!

Anyone been inside Marina Blue yet? Thoughts...pics

All these buildings have terrible bases. Everglades on the Bay, in my opinion is one of the best, if not the best base of any building in the boom.

All these buildings have terrible bases. Everglades on the Bay, in my opinion is one of the best, if not the best base of any building in the boom.

Agreed!

atleast they are doing a better job of hiding the cars, before it was all exposed and you could see the cars and the bright lights of those bases now they use steel and try to make it look like windows.

I really like Everglades on the Bay. It is one of the most architecturally pleasing buildings to come out the boom. The base in my opinion is great. They did a great job. Marina Blue has one of the worst base ever.

I really like Everglades on the Bay. It is one of the most architecturally pleasing buildings to come out the boom. The base in my opinion is great. They did a great job. Marina Blue has one of the worst base ever.

How do you guys feel about the white lights that show on the backside (exposed hallways) of the building at night?

I'm not sure if I like it. It kinda looks like christmas lights and there's always a few bulbs out that throw off the look. :ohno:

How do you guys feel about the white lights that show on the backside (exposed hallways) of the building at night?

I'm not sure if I like it. It kinda looks like christmas lights and there's always a few bulbs out that throw off the look. :ohno:
i actually kinda like it. looks great when i'm at the green library at FIU at night studying, and i can see downtown clearly, at least Marina Blue

i actually kinda like it. looks great when i'm at the green library at FIU at night studying, and i can see downtown clearly, at least Marina Blue

You should check out the skyline from Primera Casa from the top floors, you won't regret it.

yeah, its amazing how far west u can see marina blue lit up...u can also see the broken lightbulbs 20 miles away...:lol:

Hey guys don't be to critical and focus only on the small stuff. You should be celebrating that Miami has built some of the most unique and beautiful condo buildings in this country. Enjoy the beautiful architecture and the new city you have. You don't know how lucky you are. From 50 Biscayne to Marquise, where else in the US can you see such stunning buildings?????? I wish we had just one of these buildings in Los Angeles.... "bad" base and all.

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I see it all the time from the palmetto in Hialeah.

People, you won't believe me, but Downtown MIami can be seen from 104 street Sw and Turnpinke (near MDC Kendall campus).

You can see it from FIU, past the Turnpike and all the way from into Broward.

I see it all the time from the palmetto in Hialeah.

Yeah, but I see it from the tips of South Kendall. Hialeah is right next to Miami.

Plus, CBD Miami can be seen 15 miles off shore.

Yeah, but I see it from the tips of South Kendall. Hialeah is right next to Miami.

I was just saying, not competing. :cheers:

Hey guys don't be to critical and focus only on the small stuff. You should be celebrating that Miami has built some of the most unique and beautiful condo buildings in this country. Enjoy the beautiful architecture and the new city you have. You don't know how lucky you are. From 50 Biscayne to Marquise, where else in the US can you see such stunning buildings?????? I wish we had just one of these buildings in Los Angeles.... "bad" base and all.
F*&# Yeah! :cheers:

indeed this strip of building is one of the most beautiful i have ever seen...i wish the surrounding area was developing faster though..

Had some beautiful views from the boat circling around the bay...it s amazing i have to say...hopefully the next 3 years will see some of the most rapid development in this whole area and up to 195..restaurants /businesses clubs art galleries cafes shops...

Gosh i cant wait for it to happen..

Marina Blue adds to their debt again in February. This is the 4th or 5th increase so they can finish the building. Somewhere around $78 million over budget if I am reading correctly.

Marina Blue, Miami
Developer: Mist Towers (Hyperion Development)

Mortgage: Made in 2004 for $110 million and boosted to $143.6 million in 2006. In July 2007, it was increased to $153.6 million. On Feb. 25, developer got a second mortgage with Lendco Florida for $30.5 million, which could increase to $50 million through future advances. On the same day, the Thomas Jermoluk Trust gave it a $5 million third mortgage.

Condo units: 516
Status: Construction ongoing

http://southflorida.bizjournals.com/southflorida/stories/2008/03/17/story1.html?page=3

Marina Blue adds to their debt again in February. This is the 4th or 5th increase so they can finish the building. Somewhere around $78 million over budget if I am reading correctly. great post...for those of you that bought, is Hyperion that much behind schedule?

As for what they wrote about Corus, those guys are definitely aggressive with their lending, but notice that the majority of their Miami properties are waterfront and the real big ones are in the brackets of the Metromover. Loaning to rookie developers might prove to be a mistake, but time will tell. Their thinking is surmmarized here...
But he noted that Corus is well capitalized to ride out some trouble from problem loans. As of Dec. 31, it had $938 million in equity capital and $71 million set aside for loan loss allowance.
"Even in Miami, which is experiencing a glut of condominiums, we believe our collateral may be more desirable than the great majority of all housing units in the Miami area," Corus stated. "In our opinion, brand-new condominiums will not become worthless."

Yep, investors that are well capitalized and committed in 2004-5 shouldn't be in trouble. For those investors that either didn't buy right or are not well capitalized, they are in trouble.

Here's a nice Park West photo album for all you Marina Blue owners:

http://www.miamiurbanlife.com/photo/album/show?id=1256554:Album:18614

Looking GOOD! :cheers:


I'll have some updates soon...

^^Great work, Mimo...:cheers:

Here are some photos of MarinaBlue taken last week. Overall, I like this building very much. The building is in the final touch up stages and sould be 100% complete soon.
The developer has gone the extra mile to avoid a repeat of Blue. I was told, that in about 6 months, the building will be done over with fresh paint and given a nice shine. The interior shots are from a line 1, on the 35th floor. Enjoy! I will break this tour up into smaller sections....lots of pics!

Pool deck

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/IMG_0218.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/IMG_0216.jpg

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http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/IMG_0229.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/IMG_0230.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/IMG_0232.jpg

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http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/IMG_0234.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/IMG_0235.jpg

part 2

from the 01 line

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/IMG_0202-1.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/IMG_0203-2.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/IMG_0333.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/IMG_0330.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/IMG_0336.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/IMG_0338.jpg

Some of the building's interior
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/IMG_0316.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/IMG_0314.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/IMG_0318.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/IMG_0317.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/IMG_0320.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/IMG_0321.jpg

some street shots

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/IMG_0253.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/IMG_0254.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/IMG_0258-1.jpg

looking towards the bay
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/900Biscayneguy/IMG_0259.jpg

Marina Blue turned out to be a very nice building. Thanks for the shots.

I LOVE the foliage and the sand, it's amazing how they can really make it look like you're at the beach. Very nice photos, thanks!

^^ I thought the same, the landscaping is perfect.

Is that fence around the pool going to be taken down? Looks odd and out of place. Other than that, it looks great.

The Pool Fence is actually a wind-break designed to keep the sand out fo the pool. It is a temporary measure until they get that problem worked out.

I just closed on my unit on the 44th floor - love the building.

The Pool Fence is actually a wind-break designed to keep the sand out fo the pool. It is a temporary measure until they get that problem worked out.

I just closed on my unit on the 44th floor - love the building.

Wow! You are almost 500 feet off the ground. I hope to one day to own a condo with a Bay view balcony that is at least 500 feet off the ground. Miami is now one of the few places in the world where there are lots to chose from.

Miami is now one of the few places in the world where there are lots to chose from.

Clearly you haven't been to Enid, Oklahoma lately...

http://www.webdesign.org/img_articles/10541/Hong-Kong-Collage.jpg

^^^^:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:^^^^

Anyone get a night shot of Marina Blue with all the lights on? Would love to see it.

Clearly you haven't been to Enid, Oklahoma lately...

http://www.webdesign.org/img_articles/10541/Hong-Kong-Collage.jpg


Actually Spell thats the waterfront in St Peter Minnesota :)

Actually Spell thats the waterfront in St Peter Minnesota :)

You nut case! That's Brickell Avenue! That's just how fast Miami is changing!:lol::lol::)

I love the look of the inclined trusses of Marina Blue

Clearly you haven't been to Enid, Oklahoma lately...


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Who put the original Enid post anyways