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A r c h i
April 5th, 2006, 01:48 PM
Drunkill are you you drunk again? ;) It's alright you can tell me.

Drunkill
April 5th, 2006, 01:51 PM
No, not quite, but I like this tower, fav in the docklands so far. Outrigger is looking mightyfine too, hope that starts soonish. But dock 5 is great so far, and it will be a focal point in the docklands too, seeming it's in the middle and it wont be blocked from most sides.

The Olderfleet
April 5th, 2006, 02:29 PM
Thought I might post some recent pics of National@Docklands - my favourite 'new' building in Melbourne!

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7312/i0201200600220uh.jpg

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3018/i0201200600137gf.jpg

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/73/i0201200600244fw.jpg

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2970/0504200600199yk.jpg

Enjoy! :cheers2:

Garmatt
April 5th, 2006, 03:24 PM
Yeah...they are a great example of how to do 'campus style' for the CBD. It's a pity AXA didn't follow their lead, but hopefully ANZ will want to out-do their rival with their Docklands campus. Can't wait to see what Erikksen have planned for next door!

A r c h i
April 5th, 2006, 03:26 PM
I think it's very underrated and considering that most of the budget was spent on the interior (which looks fantastic) it's turned out pretty damn good. Very interested to see if the Ericsson/NAB building next door will be the same sort of design or something different. Personally I'd love to see some timber louvres used like on CH2 only running horizontally.

Drunkill
April 5th, 2006, 04:07 PM
It's all louvres for you archi isn't it? That's all you want on your buildings. If you designed Eureka it would have timber louvres! :p
But i could see that working, it's have to be an intresting design and pattern in the timber though. One of the buildings down at waterfront city has a great timber facard, i pointed it out at the mini-meet, damn holes in the road...

A r c h i
April 6th, 2006, 04:10 AM
:lol: Yeah I love timber and I love louvres so naturally I love timber louvres, expect to see more used in the not too distant future. And yes If I designed Eureka it would have louvres maybe not timber ones though. Funnily enopugh the building I'm currently working on for uni will have you guessed it timber louvres, but they're there to block out the sun, although I always find an excuse to use them. Damn holes in the road <<:rofl:

Aussie Steve
June 17th, 2006, 12:22 AM
Docklands: second-rate or showpiece? (http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/secondrate-or-showpiece/2006/06/16/1149964741239.html)

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/06/16/JTDOCKLANDS_wideweb__470x335,0.jpg
A diamond in the rough: the Docklands development sprang up in the shadow of Melbourne's industrial zone.
Photo: Craig Abraham

The Age (www.theage.com.au)
Royce Millar, City Editor
17 June 2006

Melbourne's attempt to create a spectacular waterfront oasis has divided the city's leading architects and urban planners.

Docklands, say its critics, is mediocre, and lacks soul and a cultural focus. Some say it is a missed opportunity that warrants starting again.

But people are moving into postcode 3008. About 6000 now call it home and another 6000 work there — and there are encouraging signs that a community is developing — albeit slowly. Ten years into a 30-year time frame, there is hope that Docklands can still fulfil the vision.

Kennett's one regret: Towers obscure city's water view

DOCKLANDS, the $10 billion makeover of Melbourne's derelict waterfront and the largest urban renewal project in Australian history, is a "badly-missed opportunity" and a second-rate urban outcome for Melbourne.

That is the stinging assessment by the man widely regarded as the high priest of design in Melbourne, RMIT University's professor of architecture, Leon van Schaik.

Almost a decade after work began on transforming the Victoria Dock area into a new inner-city postcode, debate rages over the results. With two-thirds of Docklands still to be built, the Bracks Government is under pressure to rethink the area's direction.

Professor van Schaik told The Age that the 200-hectare site had offered enormous potential to put Melbourne in the vanguard of urban renewal and design.

But, he said, the Kennett government's decision to carve up the area into seven parcels and sell them to large developers was a recipe for mediocrity.

"It means we have a whole series of very undistinguished outcomes," he said.

State architect John Denton said he was concerned about Docklands' piecemeal development and variable architecture.

Mr Denton, who is responsible for some of Melbourne's modern masterpieces (Melbourne Museum, the Melbourne Exhibition Centre and the Bolte Bridge) said he would have advised against allowing isolated precincts. "If you had all the developments down there now inside that central area (between Spencer Street and Central Pier), it would be humming. It would be bursting at the seams."

Former premier Jeff Kennett has defended Docklands, which he likened to a "rare species of plant that takes a while to bloom". "But it is now starting to bloom and it is capturing the minds and the hearts and the attention of the community in which it lives," he said.

But Mr Kennett has reservations, including the Victoria Point and Watergate apartment towers next to Telstra Dome. He said they obscured views of the city from the water and Bolte Bridge. He said he would have preferred that one developer had taken control of the entire 200 hectares — an option that was not commercially viable.

"Once you had a number of parties, you see a very stark difference in the quality and style of architecture."

The Age has spoken to politicians, planners, architects and developers, all of whom have divergent views about the Docklands.

Kennett planning minister Rob Maclellan conceded that allowing developers to build in isolated precincts was probably wrong.