MTA's original plans is used red line extansion that runs from North Hollywood to Warner Center but MTA ordered to stopped extansion at North Hollywood after banned on extansion in 1998. I'm not surprised that how are people that complain about subway extansion and anti-subway. Oh well, MTA have rights to expanding red line over area if they want too but who cares with people that's anti-subway, they will get over it after subway built.

I feel that I'm going piss off about it so bring red line back in valley with completely line from NoHo to Warner Center, kill orange line with crappy long busway.

In 2000, an urban art group placed "Coming soon" signs advertising the "Aqua Line" extending the Red Line to the ocean at ten perspective station stops. It was a hoax, but showed the frustrations of a lack of subway connecting the Westside with Downtown.

Not surprised, Why does it failed?

Because it's WAY too expensive.

Because it's WAY too expensive.

MTA is used asking for federal funding to pay off but after banned came then federal funding was disagree with any new red line extansion from NoHo to Warner Center.

MTA is used asking for federal funding to pay off but after banned came then federal funding was disagree with any new red line extansion from NoHo to Warner Center.
Yeah exactly. Alot of the money used to fund it is out of their own pockets. I heard somewhere that a mile of subway costed more than the WHOLE Orange Line.

Yeah exactly. Alot of the money used to fund it is out of their own pockets. I heard somewhere that a mile of subway costed more than the WHOLE Orange Line.

Yeah, maglev will be one worst expensive than subway but I maybe wrong.

If red line subway got built from NoHo to Warner Center will probably first America's suburb to get own subway in underground and can be most busiest every week.

The Orange Line is doing very well. Why kill it?

The Orange Line is doing very well. Why kill it?

It's not fair cuz red line extansion is first plan at place before start planned with orange line.

i think the orange line is fine as it is know.. in the future though they should make it a light rail line though i think, but for now its fine the way it is

LA Lover it's a shame because the Valley really fucked themselves out of a subway last decade, with all of that NIMBY opposition. After they lost their plans Pasadena got LR, and now East LA will have LR as well as Culver City, Crenshaw and hope Santa Monica. The talk of Red line extension to Santa Monica is white hot again. They are really going to live to regret that decision. Since Waxman is on our side now, we have to work to overturn Zev's law.

LA Lover it's a shame because the Valley really fucked themselves out of a subway last decade, with all of that NIMBY opposition. After they lost their plans Pasadena got LR, and now East LA will have LR as well as Culver City, Crenshaw and hope Santa Monica. The talk of Red line extension to Santa Monica is white hot again. They are really going to live to regret that decision. Since Waxman is on our side now, we have to work to overturn Zev's law.

Yeah, NoHo and Universal City is already have it but it can expanding up to other area in NoHo, Burank, Glendale or somewhere in East Valley.

i think the orange line is fine as it is know.. in the future though they should make it a light rail line though i think, but for now its fine the way it is

I agree with you to keep the Orange line for now. Eventually it will be a Light Rail because the OL runs on what use to be the old railroad tracks. They removed all the tracks and paved the way to Victory Blvd in Warner Center. From that point on it travels onto traffic jammed surface streets. So if they decide to make it Light Rail. Half of the work is done, all they need to do is to place tracks and over head wires and you have Light Rail. Also you should be able to have less accidents since some drivers think they have the right of way with the Bus. They would think twice to beat the train of course you will still have the stupid drivers.

Just think, the OL is hitting 30,000 riders mark. That's more than the Gold Line and a little less than the Green. The thing should have been a train to begin with. I say forget the OL and continue our rail network everywhere else. After all of the bruh hah hah that they kicked up along with secession threats, leave them with the bus that acts like a train but is still a bus.

agreed... why didnt they make it a rail line though?

agreed... why didnt they make it a rail line though?
Because either way it's gonna cost money....a bus line would be cheaper.

agreed... why didnt they make it a rail line though?

Remember their was sooo much NIMBY(Not In My BackYard) opposition to a subway(they didn't want the wrong kind of people having easy access to their teenage daughters, I guess. Then their was that sinkhole mishap while building the Noho leg of the Red Line, it just seems like the city lost faith in getting a subway done. Then in 1998 Zev Yaroslavsky put on the ballot to halt local funding for anymore subway tunneling, and IT PASSED!
Forget the Valley. It had its chance. If they still want to secede, I say let them go.
2 other lines will be up in the next 5 years and at least 3 others are being seriously considered. In the last 15 years LA has built more intraurban rail than any other city in the country. In that short period of time we already have 117km of track mile. If we just built that much in the next 15 years we will have the second largest urban rail transit system (after New York)excluding commuter rail.

Remember their was sooo much NIMBY(Not In My BackYard) opposition to a subway(they didn't want the wrong kind of people having easy access to their teenage daughters, I guess. Then their was that sinkhole mishap while building the Noho leg of the Red Line, it just seems like the city lost faith in getting a subway done. Then in 1998 Zev Yaroslavsky put on the ballot to halt local funding for anymore subway tunneling, and IT PASSED!
Forget the Valley. It had its chance. If they still want to secede, I say let them go.
2 other lines will be up in the next 5 years and at least 3 others are being seriously considered. In the last 15 years LA has built more intraurban rail than any other city in the country. In that short period of time we already have 117km of track mile. If we just built that much in the next 15 years we will have the second largest urban rail transit system (after New York)excluding commuter rail.
But if the Valley succeeded, wouldn't LA become the 3rd largest city in America? Because the Valley has alot of people.

But if the Valley succeeded, wouldn't LA become the 3rd largest city in America? Because the Valley has alot of people.

Maybe even 4th. But who cares.

lol ^^

Has anyone heard that they might extend the Orange Line to Burbank (Media Center)? Can someone confirm.......

Burbank, Glendale and Pasadena are paying for a study to extend either the Gold Line or the Orange Line Busway through E. Valley connecting the Noho stop of the Red Line to a stop along the Gold Line.

It can be red line extansion from NoHo to Burbank, Glendale and other cities in East Valley, if MTA have enough fund to pay them.

It most likely will be the Gold Line, westward extension. I don't think Burbank or Glendale wants a bus that acts like a train but is still a bus. I think the perception is that it is inferior to rail transit.

Burbank, Glendale and Pasadena are paying for a study to extend either the Gold Line or the Orange Line Busway through E. Valley connecting the Noho stop of the Red Line to a stop along the Gold Line.

Another plus for public transportation