China, Brazil, and the United States have something distinctly common, lots of high-rise buildings (examples: skyscrapers, apartment buildings and condos, etc). In your mind and if possible, with facts, which nation can call itself highrise capital of the world?


Definitions for High-rise:

1) being multistory and equipped with elevators.

2) of, relating to, or characterized by high-rise buildings.


and


Definition for Capital:

3) chief in importance or influence


Source: www.m-w.com (http://www.m-w.com)

The U.S. I would say. It has what is generally regarded as two of the best three skylines in the world. Two cities which truely reflect the history and embodement of the skyscraper (NYC and Chicago). Many of its even mid-size cities have pretty good skylines. American skyscrapers have the greatest diversity, sizes, ages, and charhecter in my opinion (Chinas cities have some good charecher but they all look modern and generally have a same feel about them where in the U.S. there is more variation between cities I feel)

well...when it comes to quantity it's probably china.

the US may be the home of the highrise/skyscraper, but only a handfull of cities have many of them. in brazil or china you have dozens of cities with literally thousands of highrise buildings.

A multi-storied building has to be 500' high to be considered a skyscraper. Brazil has a nationwide land use policy that prohibits buildings form being any taller than that. Aside from a few exceptions, Brazil has very few skyscrapers.

If we follow the definition above, a multistoried building with an elevator, the 2 story Library downtown is a highrise. A highrise is any building 12+ stories, or 35m+ (either works.)

Highrise stats, "© Emporis December 2005".
USA: 18,895 highrises (http://www.emporis.com/en/bu/sk/st/ma/ct/co/?id=100007)
China: 12,061 highrises (http://www.emporis.com/en/bu/sk/st/ma/ct/co/?id=100004)
Brazil: 9,620 highrises (http://www.emporis.com/en/bu/sk/st/ma/ct/co/?id=100003)
(http://www.emporis.com/en/bu/sk/st/ma/ct/)

Remember that Emporis is a work in progress, and data on most countries, especially China, are incomplete.

Of course China will because it has billions of people, millions moving into urban centers each year. However, if we are talking about quality. Ahem...the U.S. blows Brazil and China off the map.

USA because a) we invented skyscrapers, b) skyscrapers are as American as apple pie c) we have more cities with more high rises than any other country

I have to say the USA. A capital city doesn't have to have the largest population in a country. China have more towers now but the ones in the US are more famous. When most people think of skyscrapers they think of USA.

Of course China will because it has billions of people, millions moving into urban centers each year. However, if we are talking about quality. Ahem...the U.S. blows Brazil and China off the map.

True, but there are some countries that are making much more structurally sound skyscrapers. Look at Torre Mayor in Mexico City. There was an earthquake, and people in the building barely even noticed it.

I think China would have the High-rise Capital of the World:

Chinaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

well colombia is not far behind
but i'll go with china :)

China

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Only São Paulo have 42.000 High Rises according to City hall.
In all Brazil Emporis have less than 10 people, so this data is wrong (China too).

We invented it, and perfected it. Now China might have some game, but the only thing Brazil has is Sao Paulo, and Recife.

The first high-rises originated in London...?

I would have to say China, as most of their urban population lives in high-rises as opposed to the USA.

The first high-rises originated in London...?

I would have to say China, as most of their urban population lives in high-rises as opposed to the USA.
Not Steel Frame to make them truely skyscrapers...

For Highrises China wins, For Skyscarpers China only has a few cities with a lot of Supertalls, therefore USA wins that catargory.

We invented it, and perfected it. Now China might have some game, but the only thing Brazil has is Sao Paulo, and Recife.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
Are you joke?

Only in São Paulo State i remember of:
Guarulhos, Campinas, Santos, São Vicente, Praia Grande, São Bernado do Campo, Santo André, São Caetano.


In the rest of country: Rio de Janeiro, Niteroi, Belo Horizonte, Porto Alegre, Curitiba, Florianopolis, Camburiu.
This is just the cities i remember now multiplies for 10 and for 3 and perhaps it´s close to the real number.

We invented it, and perfected it. Now China might have some game, but the only thing Brazil has is Sao Paulo, and Recife.I agree the US is the best in terms of skyscrapers, but Brazil doesnt have only SP and Recife.

Goiania, my city:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/shoshoz/meio04.jpg


Fortaleza:

http://www.fortal600.ubbi.com.br/vista%20grande.jpg

http://www.wotgreal.com/BrazilImages/DSCF0144.jpg

Campinas (the brazilian forum lacks pictures from this city's skyline)

http://www.campinas.sp.gov.br/portal_2003_sites/conheca_campinas/imagens/fotos/campinas/campinas_hoje/aerea_norte_sul_lg.jpg

There is also Rio, Belo Horizonte, etc.

I ment by "good skyscrapers" instead of just residential buildings. It was just my opion based on architecture.

In terms of Quality:
1-USA
2-China
3-Brazil

Density
1-Brazil
2-China
3-USA

ALMOST 50 BRAZILIAN DENSES CITIES (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=288039)

In terms of Quality:
1-USA
2-China
3-Brazil


3rd by far...


Density
1-Brazil
2-China
3-USA

Maybe...

Density:

China
Brazil
USA

Quality:

USA
China
Brazil

Density:

Hong Kong
Brazil
China
Canada
Singapore
USA
Australia-NZ
Europe

Quality

USA
Australia-NZ
Canada
Brazil
Hong Kong(Notice Hong Kong is not only its core)
Europe
Singapore(Notice Singapore is not only its core)
China

It has a lot to do with perception to Joe Sixpack.... in which case, I choose the USA

c) we have more cities with more high rises than any other country

it seems you missed the "50 brazilian cities" thread...

We invented it, and perfected it. Now China might have some game, but the only thing Brazil has is Sao Paulo, and Recife.

lol... only São Paulo and Recife???????

ONLY A FEW CITIES BELOW. There are many more which you dont even see here! What about Lajeado, Marau, São Leopoldo, Canoas, etc?

Brasil has SO MANY CITIES WITH HIGHRISES that its impossible for us to do a complete compilation!



Belo Horizonte
http://img193.echo.cx/img193/9902/tndscf30511jl.jpg
Rio de Janeiro
http://img79.echo.cx/img79/9726/64kt.jpg
Fortaleza
http://img267.echo.cx/img267/2083/atualpequena29ea.jpg
Sao Paulo
http://img190.echo.cx/img190/8886/saopaulo14pn.jpg
Camboriú
http://img190.echo.cx/img190/2025/camboriu21oj.jpg
Recife
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a116/Brasilatsi/recifel4xg.jpg
Salvador
http://img158.echo.cx/img158/9092/salvador1cropped2fz.jpg
Curitiba
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/andrecwb/cwb2.jpg
Florianópolis
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/6695/73ow.jpg
Cascavel
http://img96.echo.cx/img96/460/cascavel14bq.jpg
Criciúma
http://img275.echo.cx/img275/2292/cricima1cropped1ez.jpg
Campo Grande
http://www.picarelli.com.br/mauricio/imagens/campo_grande.jpg
Novo Hamburgo
http://img202.echo.cx/img202/7439/novohamburgo1cropped0lz.jpg
Teresina
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Londrina
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São Vicente
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Brasilia
http://img286.echo.cx/img286/9729/brasilia2cropped9ge.jpg
Poços de Caldas
http://img217.echo.cx/img217/2474/p7030041r8qm.jpg
Campinas
http://img228.echo.cx/img228/253/campina1reduced9lo.jpg
São Luis
http://img129.echo.cx/img129/5648/saoluis1cropped6hn.jpg
Chapecó
http://img288.echo.cx/img288/6756/chapeco1cropped2ka.jpg
Natal
http://img39.echo.cx/img39/9747/107pa.jpg
Blumenau
http://img275.echo.cx/img275/6339/blumenau1cropped6wj.jpg
Belém
http://img129.echo.cx/img129/5186/belem1cropped9yj.jpg
João Pessoa
http://img286.echo.cx/img286/2269/joaopessoa1cropped6zs.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
Vitória
http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/24/Vitria10.jpg
Piracicaba
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/7568/piracicaba1cropped4bb.jpg
Uberaba
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Juiz de Fora
http://img181.echo.cx/img181/1791/219994528ypjvrzph3cd.jpg
Maringá
http://www.mizanscene.com.br/valdir/imagens/V046.jpg
Vila Velha
http://img32.exs.cx/img32/4968/vilavelha111bv.jpg
Cuiabá
http://img143.echo.cx/img143/8973/cuiaba019zx.jpg
Niterói
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/245/850md.jpg
Joinville
http://img204.exs.cx/img204/3584/236903782bptdtwfs7bh.jpg
Jundiaí
http://img310.imageshack.us/img310/5696/158zg.jpg
Guarujá
http://park7.wakwak.com/~waymark/svgaphoto/2137SVGA.jpg
São José dos Campos
http://www.sjc.sp.gov.br/imagens/galeria/panoramica1.jpg
São Carlos
http://img68.exs.cx/img68/6966/saocarlos.jpg
Aracaju
http://www.fortal05.ubbi.com.br/aracaju.jpg
Porto Alegre
http://img66.exs.cx/img66/3543/poapanoramica16qh.jpg
Caxias do Sul
http://img85.exs.cx/img85/1743/145643797LkEjjf_ph.jpg
Pelotas
http://img27.photobucket.com/albums/v81/csrfotos/pelotas_ssc_011.jpg
Sorocaba
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8696/1100388855g1lf.jpg
São José do Rio Preto
http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/4429/aerea024cd.jpg
Maceió
http://img100.exs.cx/img100/6914/1287.jpg
Goiânia
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/shoshoz/meio05.jpg
Araçatuba
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4176/0025xr.jpg
Uberlândia
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2448/fotosuberlandiacaminhada0063ny.jpg
Osasco
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/andrenodoubt/Osasco080504/VistaOs03.jpg

Can someone say overkill?

I know what Subject Brazil could win it:

"Ugliest bunch of excuses for High-rises"

I dont know about other chinese cities, but i think that brazil would win in density!

I agree that in quality china and the US win!

We are talking about High-rises!

Definitions for High-rise:

1) being multistory and equipped with elevators

2) of, relating to, or characterized by high-rise buildings

Can someone say overkill?

I know what Subject Brazil could win it:

"Ugliest bunch of excuses for High-rises"

Do you have any excuse for your stupidity?

Can someone say overkill?

I know what Subject Brazil could win it:

"Ugliest bunch of excuses for High-rises"Thanks for the offense, motherf*cker.

Can someone say overkill?

I know what Subject Brazil could win it:

"Ugliest bunch of excuses for High-rises"

Chill out with the insults man, you'll get the thread shut down. Furthermore, I love Brazilian cities. Many are massive and filled with wonderful natural beauty.

Thanks for the offense, motherf*cker.

No concealed or unconcealed profanity, please!

USA because a) we invented skyscrapers, b) skyscrapers are as American as apple pie c) we have more cities with more high rises than any other country


Since when did America invade skyscrapers? Ancient ziggurats in Babylonia preceded American scrapers by thousands of years.

Looking at Brazillian cities Im shocked. Man, I would never want to live in one. Those buildings are ugly.

Brazil cities all look the same

USA take away all the repeating apartment buildings and China's and Brazil's Skylines are much smaller.

Yeah yeah, swear, beat, screw with Brazilian cities. Just REMEMBER that 80% of these cities' buildings were built in the 70's and 80's, which were NOT a good time for archictecture, specially talking about a country that is/was not RICH and had, that time, a small and no-experience Estate/Building Segment. And we cannot simply destroy 80% of our cities now just because the buildings look 'ugly'. Well, they're ugly, but they dont kill you and they are useful.

We couldnt fulfill our cities that time with these:

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/4199/sp3yc.jpghttp://www.procavefg.com.br/imagens/obras/fachada/saintfachada.jpg

Or these:

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/986/fachada6hd.jpghttp://img253.imageshack.us/img253/9730/mand17lv.jpg
http://www.helbor.com.br/parkview/Imagens/projeto_fachada.jpg

Density:

China
Brazil
USA

Quality:

USA
China
Brazil

Agree with ya :cheers:

People, chill out with the insults!!!

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http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/SP4.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/SP1.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/e-tower.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/123_2394.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/centroantigo.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/projetodatorreeldorado20jw.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/sp20cs.jpg


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/projetoatualpontesestaidas6zm7.jpg

Rio:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/vista2.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/50992676img31301iq.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/foto240zb.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/piermaua-1.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/piermaua-2.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/paodeacucar-1.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/paodeacucar-4.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/rio42.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/centro38wi.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/teatro39ko.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/rio8.jpg

China and US for me...

Brazil only has Sao Paulo to brag...

BeLo Horizonte:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/ponto_elevado.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/fachada.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/no%20coments/savassi13rj.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/no%20coments/savassi23eu.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/no%20coments/torre11be.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/no%20coments/torrevista14ek.jpg


Curitiba:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/no%20coments/cwb7.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/no%20coments/cwb4.jpg

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http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/grelha.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/caixa_luz.jpg


Brasilia:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/no%20coments/mini-brasilia_skyline.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/praca.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/planalto.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/a_casa.jpg


Fortaleza:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/vista.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/fachada_vidro.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/BRA-Fortaleza-skyscrapercitycomaug0.jpg


São Paulo:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/desenhos_distintos.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/caixilharia.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/vista_av.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/marcio4ever/desenhos_distintos.jpg

You never notice opened windows in North American skyscrapers, do you?

Weird...

You never notice opened windows in North American skyscrapers, do you?

Weird...
We don't belive in "real" air.

Dude seriously, you Brazilian kids fu*king over do it. 2 fu*king pictures and thats all I need. Jesus f*cking christ. "LET ME GO AHEAD AND POST 10000 PICTURES OF BRAZILS LEGOS!"

USA, easily. China has its gems, but like Brazil the vast majority of the skylines are repetitve, and rather dull residential highrises.

Yeah, sorry to burst your bubble, but those arn't something to be proud of.

Brazil!? It would make more sense to put Japan in!
Anyway I think the States still got the edge in what concerns skyscrapers!

Since when did America invade skyscrapers? Ancient ziggurats in Babylonia preceded American scrapers by thousands of years.

Looking at Brazillian cities Im shocked. Man, I would never want to live in one. Those buildings are ugly.

much better than the commie blocks in Asia.

Either way, its plain stupid to "not want to live in a city" because the buildings are ugly viewed from the air.

In fact, its just an lame excuse to say "my country is highrises capital of the world because even Brasil has many more highrises, they are ugly IN MY OPINION"

much better than the commie blocks in Asia.

Either way, its plain stupid to "not want to live in a city" because the buildings are ugly viewed from the air.

In fact, its just an lame excuse to say "my country is highrises capital of the world because even Brasil has many more highrises, they are ugly IN MY OPINION"
Brazil doesn't have more skyscrapers then the US!!!

/\no it doesnt.

But the thread is about HIGH-RISE CAPITAL, not skyscraper capital. Highrise definition by EMPORIS is a 12 floors + building. And Brasil clearly has MANY MORE highrises than US. São Paulo alone has more highrises than USA!

^^
Agree.
If the question is which Country have more HighRises? Brazil by very far.
Now if the question is:
Which country have more beautiful High Rises or more Skyscraper? USA by far.

While it may have a lower profile on the world stage than China or the USA, Brazil can claim to be - by definition of the word - highrise capital of the world. Megacities (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=232015) like Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador, Fortaleza, Belo Horizonte, Belem, Curitiba, Porto Alegre, Recife, etc. account for most of the highrises in that country. The sea of density in these cities is unparalled by any other country. Bare in mind that the issue is not skyscrapers (where height is a premium), but highrises (where density is).

Honestly, I cannot understand how people can vote the United States in high-rise capital of the world when the majority of the population, and land use is used for single-family suburban homes.

This is how I look at is!

Brazil:
Density +
Quality -
Height -

United States:
Density -
Quality +
Height +

China:
Density +
Quality -
Height +

I would go with China :)

This thread does not belong in this forum. It should be moved to Citytalk and Urban Issues.

brazilian skyscrapers are too boxy and all look same.

brazilian skyscrapers are too boxy and all look same.The issue here, dude, is not quality, but quantity!.

Depends on whether you include Taiwan and Hong Kong as part of China - if so, China beats USA hands down, whether you go by quality or quantity. In terms of quality, HK skyscrapers are several times better than new york's.

If you exclude Taiwan and Hong Kong, China might probably take another 5 years to compete with USA.

There's not much need to argue over it.

And if you include only São Paulo, Brasil beats USA by far.

USA because a) we invented skyscrapers, b) skyscrapers are as American as apple pie c) we have more cities with more high rises than any other country



Agree. :)

I disagree with forumers who say the U.S. is the best. Yes, there are many tall office building in the U.S., however, there aren't that many high-rise residental buildings here. China and Brazil are equivalent in this department. So I voted a tie, because all three nations are good competitors.

Depends on whether you include Taiwan and Hong Kong as part of China - if so, China beats USA hands down, whether you go by quality or quantity. In terms of quality, HK skyscrapers are several times better than new york's.

If you exclude Taiwan and Hong Kong, China might probably take another 5 years to compete with USA.

There's not much need to argue over it.


How are Hong Kongs skyscrapers of better quality then New Yorks? I would take a Woolworths, Empire, or Chyrstler building over anything in Hong Kong save BOC.

all those boxes in brazil are not skyscrapers... somebody make a diagram comparing the skyline of brazilian cities with those of China or USA at the same scale and you will realize they are liliput.

This thread is about HIGH RISES.
High Rises:
A high-rise is any building 12+ stories, or 35m+ (either works.)

Brazil have more Highrises than USA, only São Paulo City have more high-rises than ALL USA, Brazil have more Highrises than China too, because a highrise is any building 12+ stories, or 35m+ (either works.) and only São Paulo have more than 42.000 high-rises by emporis definition.

Again this thread is about high rises not Skyscraper.
And a high-rise is any building 12+ stories, or 35m+ (either works.).
And São Paulo have more High Rises than all USA.

In terms of quality, HK skyscrapers are several times better than new york's.

That's strictly your opinion. NY scrapers are much nicer than HK's, but that's just my opinion.

USA! Becuase it has so many cities with skyscrapers! :)

China, Brazil, and the United States have something distinctly common, lots of high-rise buildings (examples: skyscrapers, apartment buildings and condos, etc). In your mind and if possible, with facts, which nation can call itself highrise capital of the world? (http://www.skyscrapercity.com//showthread.php?t=297417&page=1&pp=20)


Again to all the people who cannot read, this thread is about the High-Rises Capital of the world, not skyscraper capital.

Density:

Hong Kong
Brazil
China
Canada
Singapore
USA
Australia-NZ
Europe



Chinese mainland,not "China"
Hong Kong is one part of China.

China, no doubt. :D

This thread is about HIGH RISES.
High Rises:
A high-rise is any building 12+ stories, or 35m+ (either works.)

.The number of the High rises in China is number 1 in the world.
i swear to god that nearly each Chinese city (including many city that you may never heard of it)has some High rises.

The issue here, dude, is not quality, but quantity!.

Is not necessary to make a poll to know the city with more highrises. Visit Emporis or... I don't know, but a poll?

I think that this poll evaluates the quality of the highrises of those three countries. That's a debatable thing!

Brazil doesnt have anything to do in this list.Why Brazil?? why not Iraq or Iran or whatever haha Brazil is not a skyscraper country so just cut out Brazil out of this list.
China and USA is more interesting though.USA got NYC and Chicago as their strongest cards and China got Shanghai and Hong Kong. Its really a hard choice so I have to go with a tie on this.

How are Hong Kongs skyscrapers of better quality then New Yorks? I would take a Woolworths, Empire, or Chyrstler building over anything in Hong Kong save BOC.

We're not comparing museums, newer and shining buildings are better than older ones, at least for skyscrapers. :)

US for sure. Brazil has quite a few, but none of them are particularly beautiful. Same goes for China.

Again this thread is about high rises, USA have less High-rises than China, and China have less High-Rises than Brazil.
This thread is about quantity not quality.
If this thread is about Skyscraper or quality i vote in USA but is not about Skyscraper, and is not about quality.

Look this thread, this is not a major city and have more than 500 High-Rises (Population 70.000) (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=301087)
And any brazilian city with more than 70.000 inhabitants have High-rises.
Emporis count of Brazilian High-Rises is very wrong, only São Paulo according to City Hall have 42.000 High-Rises.

I would have to go with China because of the massive construction craze going in that country. in a few years it wont be recognizable.

Again this thread is about high rises, USA have less High-rises than China, and China have less High-Rises than Brazil.
This thread is about quantity not quality.

And it's necesary to make a poll to know a statistic data?

We're not comparing museums, newer and shining buildings are better than older ones, at least for skyscrapers. :)

Once again, that's strictly your opinion. I'd take an old art deco skyscraper over a new modern one anyday.

USA for variety and China for newness. As for Sao Paulo, the tallest building in the city was built in 1960 and is around 600 feet tall. Brazil does not belong in this poll. They do not have any supertalls.

Again, this poll is about high rises (A high-rise is any building with 12+ stories, or 35m+), not about supertalls, not about skyscraper, not about quality, not about what country have the most beautifull buildings.
The question is what country have more High rises, is so difficult to people understand a simple question like that?

USA don´t have more high-rises than Brazil or China.

^How many times are you gonna say that? :lol:

We get it, Brazil has more, ours are just better! :D

^^
Until the people understand the question.
And yes, the USA high rises are really, really better, but Brazil have many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many more.
But as Brazil has many more high rises, we have a bigger number of beautiful :banana: high rises we only lose in % :tongue3:

^^
Until the people understand the question.
And yes, the USA high rises are really, really better, but Brazil have many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many more.
But as Brazil has many more high rises, we have a bigger number of beautiful :banana: high rises we only lose in % :tongue3:

But what you don't seem to understand is that simply having the most of something doesn't automatically make you the "capital of..." whatever topic you are talking about. Quantity, quality, leadership (innovation) and perception are all factors in deciding the mythical title of capital. With this in mind, Brazil doesn't necessarily deserve the title of "capital of the high-rises," no matter how many times you attempt to frame the question.

^^
Until the people understand the question.
And yes, the USA high rises are really, really better, but Brazil have many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many more.
But as Brazil has many more high rises, we have a bigger number of beautiful :banana: high rises we only lose in % :tongue3:

According to Emporis, China has more highrises than Brazil because China has HK! And the quality is far far better. Refer to statistics please!

It's common sense! A rapidly developing country with 1.3B population + one most urbanised city in the world (HK) VS a country of 200M population. For numbers, it should be the former one, obvious!

But what you don't seem to understand is that simply having the most of something doesn't automatically make you the "capital of..." whatever topic you are talking about. Quantity, quality, leadership (innovation) and perception are all factors in deciding the mythical title of capital. With this in mind, Brazil doesn't necessarily deserve the title of "capital of the high-rises," no matter how many times you attempt to frame the question.
Thank you. In this kind of thread, its is not quantity. You need height and designs. I go with China for futuristic towers and US for variety.

Unless the topic creator said so earlier and I missed it, this poll must be about more than just quantity. You don't ask for people's opinions if you already know the data. So you must take into account quality/history/etc. in addition to quantity, otherwise there's no need for this poll and topic.

According to Emporis, China has more highrises than Brazil because China has HK! And the quality is far far better. Refer to statistics please!

It's common sense! A rapidly developing country with 1.3B population + one most urbanised city in the world (HK) VS a country of 200M population. For numbers, it should be the former one, obvious!

Even if without HK, China would have more high-rises than Brazil.

Also, Brazil is a rapidly developing country as well! But the country lack world class skyscrapers compared to The US or China!

I think that this poll evaluates the quality of the highrises of those three countries. That's a debatable thing!Wrong! In establishing the criteria for this thread, Rwarky did not include quality. Click on page 1 of this thread and read for yourself.

According to Emporis, China has more highrises than Brazil because China has HK! And the quality is far far better. Refer to statistics please!

It's common sense! A rapidly developing country with 1.3B population + one most urbanised city in the world (HK) VS a country of 200M population. For numbers, it should be the former one, obvious!
Brazil is a rapidly developing Country one of the BRIC.

Like i said emporis data for Brazil is wrong, emporis have 3 editors for all Brazil, a country with the same size of USA without Alaska and 200M pop.
São Paulo is the second most urbanised city in the world and 70% of your inhabitants live in High Rises: Almost 9.000.000 people, you really belive than 9.000.000 of people live in 3.000 buildings like Emporis said?
Belo Horizonte have 500KM² of land area with 3.000.000 inhabitants, do you think than all this people live in houses?

And like Panamaniac said, the autor just whant to know what coutry is the World Capital of high rises in quantity.

China !! no doubt.

Brazil is a rapidly developing Country one of the BRIC.

Like i said emporis data for Brazil is wrong, emporis have 3 editors for all Brazil, a country with the same size of USA without Alaska and 200M pop.
São Paulo is the second most urbanised city in the world and 70% of your inhabitants live in High Rises: Almost 9.000.000 people, you really belive than 9.000.000 of people live in 3.000 buildings like Emporis said?
Belo Horizonte have 500KM² of land area with 3.000.000 inhabitants, do you think than all this people live in houses?

And like Panamaniac said, the autor just whant to know what coutry is the World Capital of high rises in quantity.

Even suppose Emporis data is incorrect or incomplete (quite possible), China still has more highrises than Brazil. Because China data can also be underrated if Brazil data is underrated. It's reasonable because of the huge population and urbaniszation of China.

BTW, the 7000 highrises number of HK seems to be underrated because I think at least 90% of people (at least 6.1M) in HK are living in highrises. 7000 highrises cannot house 6.1M people supposing the average height is not taller than 30 stories and the number of flats per storey is usually less than 8.

In São Paulo the number of flats per storey is a maximum of 5 the average height is 20 stories.

China or Brazil have more High-Rises than USA, but in China (And Hong Kong too) have the commie blocks one huge building with many people living, in Brazil exist only a building like that The Copan.
Anyway (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=288039)

We're not comparing museums, newer and shining buildings are better than older ones, at least for skyscrapers. :)


This is so not true. There are ugly uninspired buildings that are "modern" built just within the last few years and there are masterpieces that are among those beautifull that were built 70 years ago. Age has very little to do with a scrapers beauty.

Wrong! In establishing the criteria for this thread, Rwarky did not include quality. Click on page 1 of this thread and read for yourself.

I'm reading it:

China, Brazil, and the United States have something distinctly common, lots of high-rise buildings (examples: skyscrapers, apartment buildings and condos, etc). In your mind and if possible, with facts, which nation can call itself highrise capital of the world?

From that I see a few things. First, what's considered a high-rise building. Second, use your own opinion as well as some facts to justify them to create a "highrise capital of the world."

Again, there is no need for polls if you're comparing facts. ex. "Which is taller: the Empire State Building or the Burj Dubai?" Well we all know the answer to that, so why does the poll taker need reassurance for such a question? Now when rephrased, "Which is better, keeping in mind both height, quality, and history?" you have something debatable and a need for a poll.

I voted for USA as the homeland of skyscrapers, but China will soon take over
the "High-rise Capital of the World" title.

too many biased americans and chinese around.

USA

USA... so much History, Present and Future. :)

Recognition and history: USA

Height and biggest current boom: China

Density: Brazil

U S A

When it comes to density, it's between China and Brazil. China's (including HK and Macau) skycrapers on it's largest cities are as dense or even denser than Brazil's especially skyscrapers in mainland cities like Shanghai, Beijing, Guangzhou or Shenzhen.

^^
GuangZhou = Wen Zhou??

^^
GuangZhou = Wen Zhou??

How about WANCHZHOU :D

Now:
In quantity China >> Brazil >= USA

In quality USA >= China >> Brazil


*********
Future:
In quantity China >>>>> Brazil > USA
In quality China >>> USA > Brazil

^^I'm still not sure about quality for future.

General Huo, could that be more biased/'nationalistic' ?
I'm pretty sure the majority of buildings in China are extremely awful! Altho China has many awesome skyscrapers, still a big part of its buildings are old and/or ugly.

these brazilian kids are clowns lol

why continue to emphasize that this poll is about quantity, then what is the point of a poll? Facts are facts, if Brazil has more high rises than this poll is pointless. People in here are trying to make it more interesting by making it more than just quantity because it was never clearly stated whether this poll was about quantity or quality. And yes, please, all you Brazilian kids, stop posting multiple photos of your city, your only making me dislike the skylines even more, one or two images can clearly show that Brazilian cities have a chunk of highrises.

Canada has double the amount of highrises of the USA percapita.

i personally dont think there is any competition between brasil and china....china is far ahead we all know today after america it is the strongest country,,...

i personally dont think there is any competition between brasil and china....china is far ahead we all know today after america it is the strongest country,,...

Ever heard of Japan :)

Anyway, in terms of quality, US skyscrapers are better than those in China even in the future. Hong Kong and Shanghai right now are the few cities in China that have quality skyscrapers.

But Hong Kong can be exempted in this category is it's a region of it's own though under China. But without Hong Kong, I find the quality of US skyscrapers far better than those in China! In fact, I don't even find most skyscrapers in mainland cities that impressive especially those in Shenzhen and Guangzhou!

General Huo, could that be more biased/'nationalistic' ?
I'm pretty sure the majority of buildings in China are extremely awful! Altho China has many awesome skyscrapers, still a big part of its buildings are old and/or ugly.

80% of highrises are only within 10-year old, and 99.99% are no more than 15 years old, how can you say them old, u are such ignorant :weirdo:

But Hong Kong can be exempted in this category is it's a region of it's own though under China. But without Hong Kong, I find the quality of US skyscrapers far better than those in China! In fact, I don't even find most skyscrapers in mainland cities that impressive especially those in Shenzhen and Guangzhou!
HK's highrises/skyscrapers are in good quality only those beside the Victoria Bay, those majority several blocks away from the sea are ugly as hell. samo for NYC. The new highrises/skyscrapers in mainland are in same quality as new ones in HK or NYC, but in much much larger quantity.

80% of highrises are only within 10-year old, and 99.99% are no more than 15 years old, how can you say them old, u are such ignorant :weirdo: Woah, nice.. and what's the source? Your ignorant head? :stupid:

Houston has the dullest major skyline in the US, boxy and predictable, so 80s, with a couple of minor exceptions. Dallas, Seatle, and LA and even Miami kick Houston's ass thousand times over...

HK's highrises/skyscrapers are in good quality only those beside the Victoria Bay, those majority several blocks away from the sea are ugly as hell. samo for NYC. The new highrises/skyscrapers in mainland are in same quality as new ones in HK or NYC, but in much much larger quantity.

Victoria Bay? Don't you mean Victoria / Hong Kong harbour ;)

But that the thing about skyscrapers. They have their good parts and bad parts whether its in The US, China or Brazil. There are some areas in HK that have unpleasant skylines but you're right about New York and even Sao Paulo.

The new skyscrapers in the mainland are better but most of them are not as world class as HK. The Jin Mao and the SWFC are one of the few exceptions.

About Houston, I don't find anything wrong with their skyline but the tallest building in the city looks pretty lame! And it's designed by I.M. Pei! I think the city would be better if that skyscraper was constructed, the one that looks similar to Philly's tallest building :)

this is like a joke question ? lol

America of course, America is the first modern nation to experiment with such highrises...while americans were competing to create the tallest structure in the world in the 20th century, most countries were still fixing their roads...

America will always be the center of the world in architecture, because thats where modern archtiecture developed...even if the skyline becomes terrible which it will not, America will still be america

Skyscrapers are a Western influence, so no Asian country has any right to claim that they are the skyscraper capital. It all started in the US, they invented it, they patented it, they perfected the art of the SKYSCRAPER so it would be them 100000000%. Even though DUbai builds a skyscraper to the Moon, no other country in the world can match what Americans did to international infrastructure.

^ What a pigheaded statement lol.

The question wasnt "Who first discovered a viable method of building higher stably, but is now being outbuilt by other countries"

China clearly takes it. Brazil has alot but china is more grand in its scale

Skyscrapers are a Western influence, so no Asian country has any right to claim that they are the skyscraper capital. It all started in the US, they invented it, they patented it, they perfected the art of the SKYSCRAPER so it would be them 100000000%. Even though DUbai builds a skyscraper to the Moon, no other country in the world can match what Americans did to international infrastructure.

Nobody owns skyscrapers not even the United States. If The Bank Of China was built in Kuala Lumpur than it's Malaysia's :)

Comparing China (including HK & Macau) with Brazil. China's quality is much better!

Can anyone name a world class "high rise" in Brazil?? You can't because there are none. I've been to Brazil and I liked their cities a lot. I consider Rio to be the most beautiful city in the world. But I don't care how many high rises are in Brazil. The country in no way can claim to be the high rise capital of the world. That is totally ludicrous. Be happy that you have a good climate, beautiful people, and great cities.

My vote goes to China!

Certainly china :okay:

Shanghai is just huge. I wish more of their residential buildings looked better.

Can anyone name a world class "high rise" in Brazil?? You can't because there are none. I've been to Brazil and I liked their cities a lot. I consider Rio to be the most beautiful city in the world. But I don't care how many high rises are in Brazil. The country in no way can claim to be the high rise capital of the world. That is totally ludicrous. Be happy that you have a good climate, beautiful people, and great cities.

The only thing that Brazil can boast about their skyline is density but when it comes to quality, forget it. Anyway, Brazilian high-rises like the ones in Sao Paulo are mostly brand and bombed with alot of pichecao tags. The only impressive buildings that I find in the city are the ones with Microsoft!

http://www.graffiti.org/osgemeos/stonesaopaulo3.jpg

http://www.graffiti.org/osgemeos/stonesaopaulo4.jpg

On the other hand, most of Shanghai's residential flats are typical of the most high-rise commieblocks that you'll see in this country though alot of luxury flats and condos are sprouting.

hahahah give me a break, go to brazilian forum and then come back with the pics of the Berrini, Faria Lima, Copacabana.

Hong Kong should go ahead and be a separate option on this poll. Although part of mainland China, it is constitutionally entitled to a very high degree of self-governing; for example, it retains its own legal system, currency, customs, treaty negotiating rights, such as air traffic and aircraft landing rights, and immigration laws. It even maintains its own road rules. Only national defense and diplomatic relations are the responsibilities of the central government in mainland China.

It can take on all three countries by itself, especially after ICC. And win.

so many replies.

Hong Kong should go ahead and be a separate option on this poll. Although part of mainland China, it is constitutionally entitled to a very high degree of self-governing; for example, it retains its own legal system, currency, customs, treaty negotiating rights, such as air traffic and aircraft landing rights, and immigration laws. It even maintains its own road rules. Only national defense and diplomatic relations are the responsibilities of the central government in mainland China.

It can take on all three countries by itself, especially after ICC. And win.

I even think that HK should be excluded in the list (China).

The answer is definitely China. In my opinion, the skylines of Shanghai, Hong Kong, Shenzhen, Chongqing, and Guangzhou definitely beat any American or Brazilian cities. They have really super tall and super cool buildings, but also their share of ugly ones. But in general, I prefer Pudong to Manhattan.

u gotta be joking, america of course...America, the first country to start building these skyscrapers..when America was building skyscprapers the rest of the world was watchin in amazement!

When one considers China as the growing economic behemoth that it is, one has to take into consideration the fact that the majority of China's people still live as peasant farmers in the countryside, not in the highrises of Shanghai. Brazil is still a significantly more urbanized and, (per capita), richer country than China is, and so the population of China doesn't necessarily mean that it has more highrises.

Moreover, one could also discount Hong Kong from China's total, as the vast majority of highrise growth there was engineered under British control, not Chinese.

However, I would actually agree with General Huo's statement, (to a degree), that most Chinese highrises have been built within the past 15 or so years. However, you could be decieved by that if you actually visitied the country, as many of the buildings look older than that. Unfortunately, that, more often than not, is due to shoddy construction and poor maintenance, allowing buildings to fall into rapid decay to the point that many of them are replaced practically every 10 or so years. This excepts large office buildings, which tend to be built of higher quality because they need to last longer. In other cases, however, the thin facade of a quality building is allowed to substitute for the real thing. My guess is that greater than 85% of Chinese buildings, (and I'm being conservative here, and including those higher-quality office buildings), would not be able to pass a U.S. construction inspection if the builders' lives depended on it. While quantity and appearance in China may have passed the U.S. up, quality is something I don't see the Chinese equaling for some time.

Edit: That said, Brazil's high rises probably face many of the same quality control issues that plague China. And heck, as has already been mentioned, no one from Houston should see fit to cricticize anyone else's skyskrapers!

I voted for none of them, by the way, (just cuz I'm trying to piss off as many people as possible) ;) .

no doubt it's US

I think the capital must be the US.

USA. China maybe has more quantity, but remember their population is around 4.5 times ours, and we win on quality hands down. Brazil is the capital of mid-rizes.

At the moment USA,but in the neht 20 years China will become number one.

However you look at this, you get:
1. USA
2. USA
3. USA

The only thing that Brazil can boast about their skyline is density but when it comes to quality, forget it. Anyway, Brazilian high-rises like the ones in Sao Paulo are mostly brand and bombed with alot of pichecao tags. The only impressive buildings that I find in the city are the ones with Microsoft!

On the other hand, most of Shanghai's residential flats are typical of the most high-rise commieblocks that you'll see in this country though alot of luxury flats and condos are sprouting.Dude, you're ridiculous. You not only just picked up some ugly buildings' pics from Brazil and generalized it, but you also proved to know shit about it. :doh: There are hundreds, maybe thousands, of very nice buildings in Brazil, both modern and classic arquitecture. Don't talk about something you don't know.

I don't think you'd like if people here started generalizing China, would you?

Dude, you're ridiculous. You not only just picked up some ugly buildings' pics from Brazil and generalized it, but you also proved to know shit about it. :doh: There are hundreds, maybe thousands, of very nice buildings in Brazil, both modern and classic arquitecture. Don't talk about something you don't know.

I don't think you'd like if people here started generalizing China, would you?

I wouldn't really care if they did! True that there are alot of quality buildings in Brazil but give me some scrapers that are as iconic as The Empire State or Jin Mao?

I wouldn't really care if they did! True that there are alot of quality buildings in Brazil but give me some scrapers that are as iconic as The Empire State or Jin Mao?Okay, now that's ANOTHER story. There are laws preventing high-buildings/skyscrapers in Brazil. (Do you know anything more stupid than such law?) :ohno:

I still vote for USA

Okay, now that's ANOTHER story. There are laws preventing high-buildings/skyscrapers in Brazil. (Do you know anything more stupid than such law?) :ohno:

Well I'm not just talking about height but distinctive architecture. Like the HSBC building in HK for example. It's not as tall as The Jin Mao or The Edifico Italia in Sampa but it earned iconic status!

well...when it comes to quantity it's probably china.

the US may be the home of the highrise/skyscraper, but only a handfull of cities have many of them. in brazil or china you have dozens of cities with literally thousands of highrise buildings.

WTF? You have obviously never been here. That was the dumbest comment I have ever seen. Dude, even small American cities have high rises. Jesus christ, it amazes me some of the shitass comments people will make just to say something.

True that even small US cities have high-rises. US cities on the other hand are not that vertical compared to most Chinese or Brazillian cities. Though alot of US cities have high-rises downtown and CBDs in it's suburban areas.

True that even small US cities have high-rises. US cities on the other hand are not that vertical compared to most Chinese or Brazillian cities. Though alot of US cities have high-rises downtown and CBDs in it's suburban areas.

Now your comment yes, I can agree with. That other dudes comment was just plain ignorant.

The United States, for the moment anyway, has stopped building "super tall", although I expect that to change within the next 20 years.

The United States stopped going for "worlds tallest" because the cost of them has become so prohibitive, and even though many of our old cities are landlocked, we still have lots of room to grow outward. I'm not happy about seeing suburban high-rise boxes spreading out across the horizon all over America, but it is happening.

The United States has stopped reaching for the sky, for now. However, I can assure you all, it is only temporary. :)

Now your comment yes, I can agree with. That other dudes comment was just plain ignorant.

The United States, for the moment anyway, has stopped building "super tall", although I expect that to change within the next 20 years.

The United States stopped going for "worlds tallest" because the cost of them has become so prohibitive, and even though many of our old cities are landlocked, we still have lots of room to grow outward. I'm not happy about seeing suburban high-rise boxes spreading out across the horizon all over America, but it is happening.

The United States has stopped reaching for the sky, for now. However, I can assure you all, it is only temporary. :)

I disagree a bit. How about the Fordham Spire in Chicago? It may not be the world's tallest but it's gonna be the future tallest for the country.

Oh, one last thing I need to comment on, since this is actually a hijack. Even though the US has stopped going for the super tall, for now, there are many cities that are currently in the process of building some impressive buildings. Not so much tall as amazing in design. Atlanta and Charlotte, North Carolina are two such cities. Miami is another.

Don't stop looking to the US as contender for the super tall just yet because our slow down is only temporary.

BTW, I love some of the buildings in China. Those guys are building some pretty amazing things over there.

I disagree a bit. How about the Fordham Spire in Chicago? It may not be the world's tallest but it's gonna be the future tallest for the country.

Fordham yes, the United States has slowed down its upward building, but it hasn't stopped altogether. What I meant was, there are more high rises being built in the States than their are skyscrapers. For now anyway.

It's going to be awhile before the US sees another Sears Tower, or World trade Center. The super skyscraper by definition I guess. High rises and smaller skyscrapers however, are being built all over the country as we speak.

I agree with Atlanta and Charlotte. Charlotte on the other hand doesn't have much of a skyline but they have really tall one.

I agree with Atlanta and Charlotte. Charlotte on the other hand doesn't have much of a skyline but they have really tall one.

Yeah, Charlotte doesn't have much of a skyline yet, but what they do have is nice and pleasing. I give the Charlotte guys a hard time down in the Southeast forum, but it really is a nice, up and coming city. Some very nice buildings they have, although as you say, their skyline is still rather small. The BoA(Bank of America) tower is impressive by anyones definition though.

The Bank of America tower is indeed impressive but it would look better if it had other high-rises surronding it

The Bank of America tower is indeed impressive but it would look better if it had other high-rises surronding it

heh yeah. The first time I ever saw the tower I was flying into Douglas International Airport, and the first thing I noticed was this enormous tower surrounded by a very small downtown in comparison. hahaha. I was still impressed with its size though.

Charlotte is growing at a very respectable pace though, so I suspect it's downtown will continue to rise so in a few years down the road, the BoA won't look so out of place.

When it come to skyscrapers we all know China has the most in quantity. China is definitely the skyscrapers capital of the world. There's no countries in the world can compared to it as right now or in the future.

America really loses the title of the skyscrapers capital :bash:

sorry, America

I don't understand this whole notion of China having more skyscrapers. Even if you count HK (which is questionable), HK and NY are basically a wash, Chicago beats Shanghai for now, and from then on the US trounces China.

Shanghai has way more skyscrapers than Chicago (by Emporis definition or 100m+). By several multitudes. You'd be incredibly ignorant to think otherwise.

In "questionable", I hope you mean HK is undercounted.

I think if the naysayers visit these cities in China, you will be very surprised.


Beijing
http://img71.exs.cx/img71/2393/Beijingpano_2.jpg

I don't understand this whole notion of China having more skyscrapers. Even if you count HK (which is questionable), HK and NY are basically a wash, Chicago beats Shanghai for now, and from then on the US trounces China.
China probably has more cities than the U.S. There is no doubt in the future all Chinese cities will be cloggedup with highrise. By just looking at the Beijing's pic I can't even tell the if the CBD in the foreground or background.

Of course China has many more. Their cities are filled with hundreds upon thousands of repetitive ugly residentials. In terms of quality they are far behind, imo. Which is why I don't think are the high-rise capital. quality>quantity imo.

China wins by far in every category!

Of course China has many more. Their cities are filled with hundreds upon thousands of repetitive ugly residentials. In terms of quality they are far behind, imo. Which is why I don't think are the high-rise capital. quality>quantity imo.

Wrong. China's high rise do not lack in qualities like you've mentioned. IN fact, those residential high rise in Beijing are higher in qualities than those orange-brick aparments in Manhanttan. China's skyscrapers boom is far later than the U.S so their buildings are caught up with latest technology. There is a universal concepts you have to follow when constructing highrise in case you don't know. Buildings codes are the same whereever they built in Europe, in America or Asia. IN fact, many buildings are American engineering, your opinion of qualities are false. And yes China is the high-rise captial. Period

Wrong. China's high rise do not lack in qualities like you've mentioned. IN fact, those residential high rise in Beijing are higher in qualities than those orange-brick aparments in Manhanttan. China's skyscrapers boom is far later than the U.S so their buildings are caught up with latest technology. There is a universal concepts you have to follow when constructing highrise in case you don't know. Buildings codes are the same whereever they built in Europe, in America or Asia. IN fact, many buildings are American engineering, your opinion of qualities are false. And yes China is the high-rise captial. Period

No, I'm pretty sure I'm right. Overall, American cities have higher quality buildings than China. Of course, that's subjective. What's a nice building to me may not be to someone else. So, like I said before, IMO, American skyscrapers are of higher quality. There is nothing wrong about it, period.

You seem to be confused. When I refer to quality, I'm talking aesthetics, looks. Not how sturdy and strong they're built, what codes they have to follow, etc. That's irrelevant to me.

America is on top.

No, I'm pretty sure I'm right. Overall, American cities have higher quality buildings than China. Of course, that's subjective. What's a nice building to me may not be to someone else. So, like I said before, IMO, American skyscrapers are of higher quality. There is nothing wrong about it, period.

You seem to be confused. When I refer to quality, I'm talking aesthetics, looks. Not how sturdy and strong they're built, what codes they have to follow, etc. That's irrelevant to me.

America is on top.

American highrise are not higher qualities just because they're on American soil. you're seemed to be confused but it happens all the time to people who lack knowledge about skyscrapers, particularly you. How about :bash: on top your face. end of discussion.

American highrise are not higher qualities just because they're on American soil. you're seemed to be confused but it happens all the time to people who lack knowledge about skyscrapers, particularly you. How about :bash: on top your face. end of discussion.

What does them being on American soil have to do with anything? Where do you come up with this garbage? I like American skyscrapers a whole lot more than Chinese skyscrapers, it has nothing to do them being American. I don't need knowledge on skyscrapers to like some more than others. It's an opinion, one you have a hard time accepting. You should get used to it, not everybody worships China like you apparently do. End of discussion.



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What does them being on American soil have to do with anything? Where do you come up with this garbage? I like American skyscrapers a whole lot more than Chinese skyscrapers, it has nothing to do them being American. I don't need knowledge on skyscrapers to like some more than others. It's an opinion, one you have a hard time accepting. You should get used to it, not everybody worships China like you apparently do. End of discussion.



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Here's something to mind, if your opinions don't receive recognitions from others than don't post it anywhere especially not this thread making it any longer than it need to be. It doesn't matter to me what you like, it's what you posted is stupid :weirdo:

Here's something to mind, if your opinions don't receive recognitions from others than don't post it anywhere especially not this thread making it any longer than it need to be. It doesn't matter to me what you like, it's what you posted is stupid :weirdo:

You're truly retarded. The fucking thread is asking what the skyscraper capital of the world is. I'm explaining why the US is. Everyone who has posted in here has given their opinion. Whether you care or not is irrelevant. I doubt many people care what you think, so I wonder what your point is?

Apparently you do care what I like, you're making such a fuss about it. I don't kiss China's ass so you oppose what I think. If my opinion meant nothing to you, you wouldn't have responded.

And once again, there was nothing stupid about it. I believe US has better buildings, and overall claims the title of the skyscraper capital of the world. 127 people agree with me, you're in the minority. Thank you and next.

You do realize that per capita Canada has 2x the amoount of highrises than the USA?

You do realize that per capita Canada has 2x the amoount of highrises than the USA?

Are you asking me?

Wrong. China's high rise do not lack in qualities like you've mentioned. IN fact, those residential high rise in Beijing are higher in qualities than those orange-brick aparments in Manhanttan. China's skyscrapers boom is far later than the U.S so their buildings are caught up with latest technology. There is a universal concepts you have to follow when constructing highrise in case you don't know. Buildings codes are the same whereever they built in Europe, in America or Asia. IN fact, many buildings are American engineering, your opinion of qualities are false. And yes China is the high-rise captial. Period

too stupid to comment to imo.

You're truly retarded. The fucking thread is asking what the skyscraper capital of the world is. I'm explaining why the US is. Everyone who has posted in here has given their opinion. Whether you care or not is irrelevant. I doubt many people care what you think, so I wonder what your point is?

Apparently you do care what I like, you're making such a fuss about it. I don't kiss China's ass so you oppose what I think. If my opinion meant nothing to you, you wouldn't have responded.

And once again, there was nothing stupid about it. I believe US has better buildings, and overall claims the title of the skyscraper capital of the world. Thank you and next.
U.S doesn't claim to the the skyscraper's highrise of the world. It's you who's making stupid judgement and besides, it's not up to you to decide if U.S deserve the title. By reading your posts I found that your way of speaking is very unpolite and you have no other choice than supporting your claim with insults. This apparently means that you seriously need some help. :weirdo:

U.S doesn't claim to the the skyscraper's highrise of the world. It's you who's making stupid judgement and besides, it's not up to you to decide if U.S deserve the title. By reading your posts I found that your way of speaking is very unpolite and you have no other choice than supporting your claim with insults. This apparently means that you seriously need some help. :weirdo:

Hahaha, oh man, this is gold. I'm getting a real kick outta you. :lol:

It is up to me to decide who deserves the title though, and everyone else who posts in this thread. That's what the thread asks, is it not? You're very confused, maybe you should just quit while you're ahead. No, scratch that, you've already fallen behind. :lol:

Hahaha, oh man, this is gold. I'm getting a real kick outta you. :lol:

It is up to me to decide who deserves the title though, and everyone else who posts in this thread. That's what the thread asks, is it not? You're very confused, maybe you should just quit while you're ahead. No, scratch that, you've already fallen behind. :lol:
What i mean is your opinion isn't important anymore. what's more important now is keeping your hands to your pockets and away from the keyboard.
:weirdo:

What i mean is your opinion isn't important anymore. what's more important now is keeping your hands to your pockets and away from the keyboard.
:weirdo:

Just keep trying to dig yourself out of that hole, it's working. :lol:

Anyways, I'm done with you. Back on topic please.

Just keep trying to dig yourself out of that hole, it's working. :lol:

Anyways, I'm done with you. Back on topic please.
My hole isn't as deep as yours so you want me to lend you a hand out??

After reading your (RP1 and Modernization) comments I would like to take the side of RP1. Modernizatiom, RP1 was just trying to give his opinion about the topic of this thread. You do realize that forums are created so that people can exchange their ideas about stuff. If you do not like the opinion of others, you should not pick on that person for his opinion. He was merely sharing his opinion. If you don't like his opinion then so be it. Don't make a fuss and pick on the person. This just ruins the purpose of this forum of allowing a constructive exchange of ideas and opinions. Be more constructive not destructive. Ok. :)

After reading your (RP1 and Modernization) comments I would like to take the side of RP1. Modernizatiom, RP1 was just trying to give his opinion about the topic of this thread. You do realize that forums are created so that people can exchange their ideas about stuff. If you do not like the opinion of others, you should not pick on that person for his opinion. He was merely sharing his opinion. If you don't like his opinion then so be it. Don't make a fuss and pick on the person. This just ruins the purpose of this forum of allowing a constructive exchange of ideas and opinions. Be more constructive not destructive. Ok. :)
-I agree, so everytime when someone post something, leave it alone. Don't quote and try to sound like you're smarter.This is a matter of opinions,so if you think something different, there's no need to quote from some previous posts . That means you disrespect others' opinion and claim yours to be better. What you'll need is some data to prove your point. Your own preference about things may not agree with everyone nevertheless it may cause more tensions to the trash talking.

"In "questionable", I hope you mean HK is undercounted."

No, I mean that it's questionable to say "China has more skyscrapers, just look at HK" when a lot of the skyscrapers were built before HK was a part of China, and because HK is still somewhat seperate from the rest of China, both in terms of wealth and liberty.

As for my ignorance in not realizing Shanghai has more highrises than Chicago, do you have a source? By my own count, Chicago has 240 100m+ towers built or U/C, while Shanghai has 202.

But anyways, I worded my original post incorrectly. The second part, comparing NYC to HK and Chicago to Shanghai, was not just about number but also about quality (in my personal taste), which I didn't mention earlier in the post. My mistake. Let me rephrase:

Chicago has more good skyscrapers than Shanghai, in my opinion, while NY and HK are even.

How's that?

Brazil will win in term of density.US only has a handful of cities that has good density.(NY & Chicago hav near 1/2 of total hi-rises in US)the hi-rises in US dont seem to spread out all over the place like in Brazil & china.
Density:
Brazil
China (including HK)
USA
China (excluding HK)

But due to the stupid law,high-rises in Brazil r so boring and lacking kickass buildings,every city look the same-same.While China is just booming recently so most of the skyscrappers r new.US will definitely win for its quality buildings although 2/3 of the hi-rises were built more than 2-3 decades ago.
Quality:
USA
China (including HK)
China (excluding HK)
Brazil

Brazil does not have that many buildings according to the diagram on skyscraperpage.com

"In "questionable", I hope you mean HK is undercounted."

No, I mean that it's questionable to say "China has more skyscrapers, just look at HK" when a lot of the skyscrapers were built before HK was a part of China, and because HK is still somewhat seperate from the rest of China, both in terms of wealth and liberty.



Among the 42 (at least) 200+ buildings in Hong Kong, only 8 of them were built before the handover.
And in recent years, the average height of the buildings (especially residential buildings) increases significantly. Every year there are tens of 40+ Storeys Public Housings coming.

Chicago has more good skyscrapers than Shanghai, in my opinion, while NY and HK are even.

How's that?

Fair enough. But your opinion would be wrong, if you are judging by Emporis numbers for Shanghai (which are obviously inaccurate, thus they cannot be used to verify or disregard my claims).

Unfortunately I do not have a better source than Emporis, and I doubt anyone else would because there are hundreds of highrises under construction in Shanghai at one time. It would be extremely hard to count.

Although there is no source with a full count, You cannot honestly believe that the largest city in China, Shanghai with a conservative 16 million population has fewer highrises than Chicago. Be realistic.

http://i.pbase.com/o4/45/599045/1/57550281.oi.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/23/32543036_3e547fe0e7_o.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9625/chicagoaerial157nl.jpg

Hong Kong, although with it's own system, is still part of China. Even cities like Shenzhen (10 million +) or Guangzhou (10 million +) or Chongqing (12 million +) likely surpass Chicago.

BTW: Thanks for keeping this thing civilized. Nobody should be too upset by this thread anyways. If China has more highrises, so what?

The question is difficult.
From the amount of skyscrapers i would say China.
From the quality i would say USA.

The new tall skyscrapers in China are really great like the Chongqing World Trade Center, Silver Tie and the CCTV Headquarter in Beijing or the Jasper Tower in Shanghai. If the build more of such great building the decision will be much more easy.

I prefer qualities to China, US has too many boxy buildings that are ugly in shape and unfuturistic.

I prefer qualities to China, US has too many boxy buildings that are ugly in shape and unfuturistic.


http://static.flickr.com/23/32543036_3e547fe0e7_o.jpg

Yeah, because nothing in this picture fits that description :lol:

I'm not sure why there are so many people saying it's China when according to Emporis the U.S.A. has almost 7,000 more high rises. Emporis might not be completely accurate but I dont think it has a margin of error of +/- 7,000. Just looking at the facts here. Correct me if I am wrong

# Country Population Buildings
1. U.S.A. 296,410,404 19,092

2. China 1,236,914,658 12,143

3. Brazil 185,516,519 11,652

© Emporis May 2006

I'm not sure why there are so many people saying it's China when according to Emporis the U.S.A. has almost 7,000 more high rises. Emporis might not be completely accurate but I dont think it has a margin of error of +/- 7,000. Just looking at the facts here. Correct me if I am wrong

# Country Population Buildings
1. U.S.A. 296,410,404 19,092

2. China 1,236,914,658 12,143

3. Brazil 185,516,519 11,652

© Emporis May 2006

Emporis Count for Shanghai : 773
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/ci/bu/sk/?id=100213

Does it look like in that picture that Shanghai has only 773 highrises over 12 storeys?

Keep in mind that this is only a small section of the city. You do not even see the Oriental Pearl or Jin Mao.

This is Shenzhen, according to Emporis, there are 266 highrises over 12 storeys in height. (Tallest is Shing Hing Square 384m / 1260 ft.)
http://img1.tapuz.co.il/forums/39332131.jpg

This is Dallas with 237 highrises according to Emporis
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/96/panocopytn0cp.jpg


Imagine if that total was actually accurate. So would it seem logical that HK (city of 7 million) has 7,000 out of the 12,000 total highrise buildings in all of China with 1.3 Billion people?

I hate to sound like a troll, but this is the truth.

I know it's true since the beginning. If you look up the current banner, Nanjing is a Chinese city

I'm not sure why there are so many people saying it's China when according to Emporis the U.S.A. has almost 7,000 more high rises. Emporis might not be completely accurate but I dont think it has a margin of error of +/- 7,000. Just looking at the facts here. Correct me if I am wrong

# Country Population Buildings
1. U.S.A. 296,410,404 19,092

2. China 1,236,914,658 12,143

3. Brazil 185,516,519 11,652

© Emporis May 2006

According to emporis there are 700 skscrapers in Beijing.
I was in Beijing and i say there are 2000.
The amount of skyscrapers for China in emporis is not true.

i would say that china might hav more hi-rises than US. Cities in china tend to build hi-ries all over the place and the cities are usually larger than those of the US(more ppl = more residental buildings),while US cities tend to build hi-rises only in the central area (that's y they look so neat).more Ppl in the US live in low-rises than in china.

It would be China in this field.

Najing,China.Crazy pans by Xiaobai(Emporis says it has 80 hi-rises)

Scroll---->>>

http://i.pbase.com/o4/45/599045/1/59912927.nanjing2.jpg


http://i.pbase.com/o4/45/599045/1/59913283..jpg

In the first pic, it looks so hazy, actually it's the infamous air pollution. They'll never do anything to freshen the air quality

USA has more cbd high-rises and everyone else seems to have more residential?

OF COURSE: CHINA

SIX OF THE TEN HIGHEST BUILDINGS IN THE WORLD ARE IN CHINA.
THE HIGHEST BUILDING IS EVEN SITUATED IN CHINA, in the province of TAiwan
china is the country which uses one third of the whole steel in the world and half of the whole concrete in the world!
Shanghai is even the city which builds in the moment the most skyscrapers in the world!

OF COURSE: CHINA :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

1Quality, Nice, simple designs, invented them, fitting into skylines- USA
2Innovation, Wacky, different designs, fast development--China
3Mucho Mucho Quantitios!--Brasil!
Supertall capital-- UAE

OF COURSE: CHINA

SIX OF THE TEN HIGHEST BUILDINGS IN THE WORLD ARE IN CHINA.
THE HIGHEST BUILDING IS EVEN SITUATED IN CHINA, in the province of TAiwan
china is the country which uses one third of the whole steel in the world and half of the whole concrete in the world!
Shanghai is even the city which builds in the moment the most skyscrapers in the world!

OF COURSE: CHINA :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

The country of Taiwan.
I think Dubai builds more than Shanghai over 30 stories IMO.
Just because of the booming development does not mean it is the highrise capital of the world.

The country of Taiwan.
I think Dubai builds more than Shanghai over 30 stories IMO.
Just because of the booming development does not mean it is the highrise capital of the world.


There's no country of taiwan, it's NOT! an independet state!
and CHINA is the country where the most skyscrapers are built, so this is a rekord! China is the high rise capital. Dubai doesn'T build more,
that's a fact!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

it's MY! opinion
you don't need to share it it'S my opinion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :yes: :yes: :yes:

The country of Taiwan.
I think Dubai builds more than Shanghai over 30 stories IMO.
Just because of the booming development does not mean it is the highrise capital of the world.


I highly doubt that. The population of Shanghai is upwards of 16 million (very conservative). With migrant workers / undercount this number is likely closer to 30 million. This is the #1 city in mainland China and 1.3 billion people are looking for opportunity. If you have ever been to Shanghai, you will realize how crazy that claim is.

I agree with this. I live in Shanghai and according to Chinese news Shanghai past 20.000.000 in 2002 and is growing around 3.000.000 to 5.000.000 per year. So it have to be around more likely above 30.000.000 on the moment because Shanghai is the biggest Chinese city.

And about buildings there are a lot of buildings under construction on the moment (every were in China). And China has very many large Cities just think about it who heard about Chongqing this is a City with about 30.000.000 people in China. And there are over 200 Cities in China with more then 1.000.000 people (Brazil has 14 above 1.000.000)

the buildings that they are building are getting higher and higher. And many of them are not mentioned on websites, and how can they stay track on the buildings in china. This is going so fast here!

(I get more and more the idée that China wand to have the highest, biggest for every thing no matter the cost! Think about the shopping malls, dam, bridge china all have the biggest, fastest train).

Dubai might now building the highest building. But I don’t think it will take long before it will be over taken by a Chinese building.

And for Dubai I think this is calculated on growing rate in %, because the grow per year of just shanghai is as big as Dubai will ever get.

just have a look at this movie:
mms://msnbc.wmod.llnwd.net/fc/a275/e1/video/100/c_otm_shangai_060510.asf#0;1.000;0;0;1:2;2:2

and about the dam:
mms://msnbc.wmod.llnwd.net/fc/a275/e1/video/100/n_sabine_3gorgesdam_060520.asf#0;1.000;0;0;1:2;2:2

just copy the links in internet explorer

if you were an architecture student focusing on skyscrapers and you had to pick one country to live and study in, would you choose the US, or China? Would you want your basis of knowledge to start in 1900 or 1980?

G-d it just bugs me when people say that in Dubai you have the largest number of buildings over 30 stories being build and generally oberblow the truth about it. Dubai is all about building impressive huge projects eg. The Burj, Palm Islands, Airport, Mall, World Islands. Dubai is building huge but small in numbers. It the City with the most impressive and daring constructions in the world. But that's just it.

How can you compare the high rise construction of a city ONE million with a city that is growing in population atleast two times bigger PER YEAR such as Shanghai?!

Do you think all those millions move to the city to live in small houses in the Shanghai suburbs? No. They live in large residential towers which are multiplying like bacteria in Shanghai.

China is the king of skyscrapers in both numbers of both existing and constructing buildings. Emporis is ridiculously innacurate and all people know it so it will be wise to stop quoting its data.

VRC/D International is right one the money. China IS INDEED using a 3rd of world steel production and half of the concrete. China has literally just started urbanising its society. There are 300 million Chinese in rural areas waiting to migrate to the big cities. Can you possible imagine what will happen to Chinese urban areas when they do by 2050? Metropolies stretching for miles and miles will be a usual sight.

Only USA have a full of beutiful building Brazil and China have 1 or 2,so my vote is USA :)

China for me!

All those countires lead in differnt fields of High rises. USA has the highest quality of buildings with a good urban planning, also the best designers of skyscrapers come the US.

China leads in quantity and usage, almost every city in China has skyscrapers, they're almost everywhere.

Brazil's cites, like Sao Paulo, have skyscrapers that stretch as far as the eye can see.

The idea that the high-rise capital should have the most influence seems to give the USA a chance at the title. I still think that as far as highrises go, China might win out because the incredible quantity. If this was skyscraper, or skyline, capital of the world USA could be more easily picked

But then again as far as high-rise capital the US does have many many smaller cities with skylines and high rises that go unnoticed.

Ofcorse will be the highest skylines in China becose ther live 1,315,844,000 people.

But i am more interested in countrys who haves not just skyscrapers.Like have some historycal architecture buildings.

For me China

They all have their strengths. USA is developed and settled in, starting way before everyone else. I have to say for now, the US buildings are more agreeable, but China's new glass towers will outdo the US soon!

Still, the two's characters are so distinctly different.

Brazil lacks the fame and character that US has, reminds me a bit of uncontrollable urban sprawl

USA is the winner, but more people will take a bet on china, because they have over 1billion people...1.300.000.000. .....USA only has 300.000.000 their population is 4 times larger

I go for China.

Chinese cities have the density of Brazilian cities and the height and unusual achitecture found in some cities in the US.

Its a nice combination.

China, of course.
No other country in the world comes even close to having as many impressive skylines as China.

7/10 of the world tallest buildings are Chinese (ie. not PRC alone) as well.

This is not debatable. The reason why USA has gotten more votes is simply because the amount of US forumers is maybe 40-50 times the number of Chinese forumers.

China, of course.
No other country in the world comes even close to having as many impressive skylines as China.


I disagree. I think the USA is close or has more impressive skylines then china. anyway, my vote it the USA.

I think China is. Chinese cities skylines are amazing. I think the US created the skycraper culture but China perfected. Brazil in the other hand shouldn't be in this competition eve Sao Paulo looks small when compared to Chinese cities they have density and height.

How many 200m+ higrises are built in Brazil? :D

China is a massive, massive, massive country.
take shanghai for example...theyre about to have a second supertall, and they also have that huge tower on the waterfront... its just amazing.

I mean I live in the USA so I know the quality of our skylines...
but in terms of numbers I think China is winning!

Im not so sure about our countries as a whole...our medium population (250,000-500,000) cities probably have wayyy better skylines than Chinese cities of similar population.

I can say quantity of skyscrapers in China is unbeatable. But one can argue that in terms of quality U.S is still the best. It will take probably a few years though for China to catch up. It is getting richer by the day...

I disagree. I think the USA is close or has more impressive skylines then china. anyway, my vote it the USA.

You may consider american cities bigger according to area, but if skyscrapers are taken in account, China overtakes US. Take Houston as an example, Houston is the fourth biggest american city in US, it may take three hours out of the city, but I noticed most of area are full of low-rises, shopping malls, like one storey buildings around plus distance between each other. The small portion of High-rises only concentrate on downtown area which quite looks like Chinese suburb. However, Chinese cities are quite dense, the population causes every city very dense in high-rises. The fully occupied highrises are so congested together that traffic jam are quite common in each city.

Yeah,china may have more impressive skylines height wise, but I am considering the US to have to Most Beautiful skylines. This is only my opinion though, so don't argue at all. I think that china has less pretty skylines. Some are better then others though like hong kong and Shanghai, but I think chicago looks better then them and New york is tied with them. But that's just my opion. Anyway, the US invented the skyscraper, so just for that, it goes to the US. And no, I don't consider area with impressive skylines. Why would you think that?

China :) for me China is the future of skyscrapers, the USA the old capital of skyscraper. And the pop here in china is much higher than the pop of the States (alone Shanghai 28 mil, Beijing 18-19 mil ...) Here in china ends the skyline not with the downtown like in US, the skyline goes from the inner city into the suburbs!!

USA because a) we invented skyscrapers, b) skyscrapers are as American as apple pie c) we have more cities with more high rises than any other country

are you sure "america" has the MOST cities and highrises than any other country? have you actually seen all the cities in china? if you haven't go check it out and you'll be blown away!

china is the highrise capital of the world.

our medium population (250,000-500,000) cities probably have wayyy better skylines than Chinese cities of similar population.
Sorry, they don't. :)

sorry, they do.:). J/K. I know we don't, but I bet they're more beautiful here

There are numerous American cities with highrises but few have as many as China does. China has hudreds of cities I haven't even heard of with thousands of highrises. Shanghai, Hong Kong, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Tianjin, Chongqing have an insane amount of highrises. Besides China is roughly the same size as the U.S. but has a much bigger population which means more people, more density and more highrises.

On the skyscraperpage website it says Canada is beating China by atleast 1000 scrapers, Is that true? And why does canada have so many for such a small population compared to china

Well, canada dosen't have as many skyscrapers. It just has more buildings that are mostly low rises.

Well fcuk me silly, China easily wins this thread on Quantity alone!
interesting point about population: India has a billion people too..how do their skylines and highrises look?

Since when this thread became alive?
China has more skyscrapers but US has the most famous ones.

On the skyscraperpage website it says Canada is beating China by atleast 1000 scrapers, Is that true? And why does canada have so many for such a small population compared to china

Cause canada is a cold country and people like to huddle together for warmth so we build denser cities.

lol i don't know why but Canadian cities have a tendency to sprawl less than US cities and build more in the main city. I guess its because we didnt have the urban exodus that the US had in the 60s and thus we have more skyscraper per capita.

A single city such as Shanghai undoubtedly has more highrises than all of Canada.

The reason why China doesn't have that many highrises listed in the online databases is simply because it's impossible to keep track of all the towers that exist, and that are under construction and planned.

As Skybean said, Shanghai alone has way more highrises than all of Canada.

China, no question about it. :)

ok, now lets make a thread, Skyscraper capital of the world.
because, the site is titled Skyscraper city

And the point of this stupid thread????

well its a very biased version of an internet poll, in which we come to the conclusion China's got a shitload of highrises.

The USA has more skyscrapers but China has more high-rises on the whole. That is because most people in chinese cities live in cramped apartment blocks.

China can build all the highrises that it wants, but USA will always be the highrise capital because the skyscraper was invented there and highrises from all stages of their evolution (right up to now) exist there.

China is a massive, massive, massive country.
take shanghai for example...theyre about to have a second supertall, and they also have that huge tower on the waterfront... its just amazing.

I mean I live in the USA so I know the quality of our skylines...
but in terms of numbers I think China is winning!

Im not so sure about our countries as a whole...our medium population (250,000-500,000) cities probably have wayyy better skylines than Chinese cities of similar population.

i totally agree with you.
2 million us city, and 2 million chinese city, i agree us city win skyline.

It was the USA.

It is currently a tie between USA and China with Chicago and NYC rivalled by HK and Shanghai. There is in reality, as everyone who has visited China with an open mind realises a big 4 not a big 3.

Forests of high rise residential dwelling space doesn't really do it without a proper epic skyline a la Hong Kong or Chicago to act as an image for the nations urban look.

It will be China.

Quality over Quantity! USA!

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Where is this quality of which you speak, in comparission with China for example?

Definitely it's USA. America is a motherland of skyscrapers! New York is a skyscrapercity.It's classic. I can't identify the high-rise buildings with other country. American skyscrapers have the longest history, where we can see skyscrapers' evolution. All the cities from the very beginning are projected with skyscraper areas.
As to China...chaos of high -rise.

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Where is this quality of which you speak, in comparission with China for example?

There are many beautiful buildings planned and under construction in China, but for now the US still takes the cake. China will overtake them in the very very near future, though.

While China and Brazil have far more skyscrapers than the US and far denser skylines, highrises in the US tend to be more interesting. I think its because in China and Brazil, highrises are more practical, built to accomodate millions of middle class apartment dwellers, but in the US highrises are more of a novelty. Hence the vast majority of them are less "functional", so to speak.

History is with USA, yes, but the uncountable amount of high-rises that are being built up in China will make China the high-rise capital of the world, if it isn't already with it's metropolic cities like Shanghai. I personally like the general high-rise architecture in China more amusing than American and Brazilian. China's economy is rising with their population of 1,3 billion and that ain't the only thing rising, there's going to be loads and loads of huge buildings when the money really starts flowing in like in no country before.

Of course China:)

Most of China highrises are cartoonish looking unless they were designed and built by serious foreign architects.

Brazil really isn't a contender here imo. Sure, there's plenty of high rises there, but how many notable ones?

Of course China has more skyscrapers than the USA, but how many of those are repetitive commie blocks? How many skyscrapers can China claim that date back to the early 20th century. Not many, that's what gives the USA the edge here imo.