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I know where I'd rather live, the "cluttered" area. You don't have to spend a lot of time riding the elevator down to leave the building, can cross the street without waiting for a red light, can visit a cheap neighborhood restaurant or coffee shop and eat street food. Those dense areas have a vibrant street life whereas the highrise district is dead outside the buildings. How many street level restaurants are there? How many people selling food on the street? How much more does food and drink cost? :ohno:

There's the same issue in Shenzhen, as I suspect throughout China.

To those that have never been to China: those messy "villages" are full of life - a dense amalgamation of people filled with restaurants, shops, hair salons, massage parlors, and street vendors. While the government shuffles money around via its state-owned enterprises into grandiose real estate projects that we drool over here at SCC, the villages are intensely capitalistic. They are fiercely entrepreneurial.

And year over year, the 'villages' develop. They get richer. Restaurants and shops renovate, businesses expand, and the beggars are replaced by peddlers. It is this kind of economic development that's sustainable.

Yet the city planners have a different vision. China's city builders are very much in the mold of Robert Moses. They seem to have a genuine distaste of the 'ugliness' of the villages and vastly prefer their vision of gleaming skyscrapers, international-style malls, and wide streets. Hell, Shenzhen's development motto is "urbanism without density".

The CBD's developed by the master planners are... easy on the camera, but of questionable utility. At best, they represent poor planning; at worst, they represent a misallocation of capital of massive proportions.

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Surely the most beautiful city in China :banana2::banana2:

I know where I'd rather live, the "cluttered" area. You don't have to spend a lot of time riding the elevator down to leave the building, can cross the street without waiting for a red light, can visit a cheap neighborhood restaurant or coffee shop and eat street food. Those dense areas have a vibrant street life whereas the highrise district is dead outside the buildings. How many street level restaurants are there? How many people selling food on the street? How much more does food and drink cost? :ohno:

Zhujiang New Town is a U/C zone. The streets are not full of retail yet since the dust has not settled. The waterfront section is almost done and is a mix of parks, cultural facilities, and wide sidewalks - a big leisure area.

No matter how Pudong-like these CBDs get, i really hope that they have more 'beijing road' like areas in all cities where the food and shopping is good and affordable. I don't really like all the branded shops floating around to make the area look 'posh', really silly. It doesn't have to be in the CBD, but somewhere close to it would be nice. It gives it a lively feeling yet having a good looking skyline.

Zhujiang New Town is a U/C zone. The streets are not full of retail yet since the dust has not settled. The waterfront section is almost done and is a mix of parks, cultural facilities, and wide sidewalks - a big leisure area.

Your not going to get much street life with expensive office/residential towers and 6 lanes streets right through the middle. I see all sorts of high end office/residential/retail going up in China, yet where is the development for the middle/lower class who assuredly make up the majority of the population. Those would be interesting to see.

I know where I'd rather live, the "cluttered" area. You don't have to spend a lot of time riding the elevator down to leave the building, can cross the street without waiting for a red light, can visit a cheap neighborhood restaurant or coffee shop and eat street food. Those dense areas have a vibrant street life whereas the highrise district is dead outside the buildings. How many street level restaurants are there? How many people selling food on the street? How much more does food and drink cost? :ohno:

I kinda agree with what you say, but you can't say this about that specific block seen on the picture. Have you been there? I walked next to it not later than today and trust me, no one wouldn't wish to live there. I wouldn't live there for free and I don't have high comfort requirements. This area is really dirty and in a terrible shape, buildings stand 2 meters next to each other which doesn't let any light enter the rooms.

There are other old residential block in western historical Guangzhou such as Xuexiu and Liwan districts that really deserve to be preserved because of their historical value and architecture. But the block on the picture is nothing more than a slum. There is not one reason to keep such miserable buildings in a modern city that Guangzhou is becoming.

I kinda agree with what you say, but you can't say this about that specific block seen on the picture. Have you been there? I walked next to it not later than today and trust me, no one wouldn't wish to live there. I wouldn't live there for free and I don't have high comfort requirements. This area is really dirty and in a terrible shape, buildings stand 2 meters next to each other which doesn't let any light enter the rooms.

There are other old residential block in western historical Guangzhou such as Xuexiu and Liwan districts that really deserve to be preserved because of their historical value and architecture. But the block on the picture is nothing more than a slum. There is not one reason to keep such miserable buildings in a modern city that Guangzhou is becoming.

So what you're saying is the place needs cleaning up and bringing up to standard.

But what will happen of course is that they'll get bulldozed and replaced by the sort of stuff on the left of shot... tower blocks between motorways. I seriously wonder what you're aspiring to? Are you believing the marketing hype? I'd seriously rather live in the 'slum'. Europe is filled with these sorts of places that with the coming of wealth have been transformed into the most desirable places to live. Europe also has its fair share of places where the wrecking balls have come in, mainly during the 50s and 60s, to bring the 'modern city' dream that you seem to want and it's never worked. It doesn't work because in the long term, it isn't as human.

The problem is that like the song says, you'll only realise what you've lost when it's gone... so I sense I won't persuade you.

it's 15km from the "center" of Guangzhou, they are just urbanized rural villages in the way of a skyscraper development, if you check Google Earth, the center of Guangzhou is mostly in that style and little has been demolished

So what you're saying is the place needs cleaning up and bringing up to standard.

But what will happen of course is that they'll get bulldozed and replaced by the sort of stuff on the left of shot... tower blocks between motorways. I seriously wonder what you're aspiring to? Are you believing the marketing hype? I'd seriously rather live in the 'slum'. Europe is filled with these sorts of places that with the coming of wealth have been transformed into the most desirable places to live. Europe also has its fair share of places where the wrecking balls have come in, mainly during the 50s and 60s, to bring the 'modern city' dream that you seem to want and it's never worked. It doesn't work because in the long term, it isn't as human.

The problem is that like the song says, you'll only realise what you've lost when it's gone... so I sense I won't persuade you.

You shouldn't judge me so quickly. I share your opinion but the difference between me and you is that I saw that block and according to your comment I'm sure you didn't. I don't like those wide roads neither but they are less bad then what I saw there today. I'm living in an old low-rise area (no elevator, shops at street level) and I love it. Do not associate so easily popular with valuable.

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Awesome building. BTW, today's Guangzhou has really excellent skyline.^^

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awh i wish i could be there to see it with my own eyes :)

Your not going to get much street life with expensive office/residential towers and 6 lanes streets right through the middle. I see all sorts of high end office/residential/retail going up in China, yet where is the development for the middle/lower class who assuredly make up the majority of the population. Those would be interesting to see.

A new concept is starting in some US cities. Here's an example of one, it's called the Epi-center. A group of high rise office buildings, hotels, and condos with 'street-style' business on the lowest levels. The entrance to the Aloft hotel is on the 5th floor, for example.

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The lighting on the TV tower is AWESOME!

伟大祖国终于扬眉吐气啦。。。。:cheers:

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Wow, the park space has really come along. Looks great!

I even like the signage at the top of the West Tower. The whole area has really transformed nicely.

The city has very much pollution, but so does all cities in China :ohno:

Are those photos glitched for everyone else, or just me?

Great pictures :cheers:

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Wow these collums are massive:nuts:
But great lobby. I'm sure it will become really beautiful, like the rest of the tower!

I think Guangzhou has Central Park beat...

yes i think the same hahaha i like this building very nice for inside. and what is the opening?

And year over year, the 'villages' develop. They get richer. Restaurants and shops renovate, businesses expand, and the beggars are replaced by peddlers. It is this kind of economic development that's sustainable.



I don't agree with this, come on... the revenue of the restaurants where you eat at 6-10 kuai like the ones inside that pic is pretty low and they don't renovate much... neither the residential buildings as you can see

Plus it is expected that 300M+ ppl move to the cities in the following years so it is clear for me that in the middle of a newly CBD high-rise is surely sustainable and decent hotels, restaurants, KTV etc generate millions. The other crappy stuff doesn't!

What I don't see sustainable is all these expensive shops that they always put around or in the skyscrapers and always seem to be empty

Expensive shops don't need many clients to be profitable.

^^ yes though i prefer China to put more of its brands or hong Kong brands rather than the usual foreign brands which represent 'wealth and class' when ever people sport them. What I would like to see happen is the government allocating areas around the CBD for small food shops and shopping streets like Beijing Road in Gz, its much more lively though crowded. When I travel to Asia, in particular Vietnam, Malaysia, Singapore and Hong Kong, i prefer going to those small 'oldish' restaurants on the side of the street and shopping in those small shops rather than the big classy restaurants which serve the same quality of food but charge a lot more

^^ yes though i prefer China to put more of its brands or hong Kong brands rather than the usual foreign brands which represent 'wealth and class' when ever people sport them. What I would like to see happen is the government allocating areas around the CBD for small food shops and shopping streets like Beijing Road in Gz, its much more lively though crowded. When I travel to Asia, in particular Vietnam, Malaysia, Singapore and Hong Kong, i prefer going to those small 'oldish' restaurants on the side of the street and shopping in those small shops rather than the big classy restaurants which serve the same quality of food but charge a lot more

Yes, I agree. They should have more local brands and local dishes around the area. It is more authentic. I am sure tourists are more appreciate it.

Massive collums!! :shocked:

how shit its huge
but very nicely done
quite slim construction
and i love how you can see the construction inside of the tower!


great pics people!

cool building it looks nice at night :)

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China's Guangzhou tower nears completion

By Mark Leftly

Sunday, 31 October 2010

The 437m tower is the tallest structure ever built to a design by a British architect.

Construction of the Guangzhou International Finance Centre in south-east China is nearly complete, and the tower is expected to take its first tenants in spring 2011. Wilkinson Eyre, a two-time winner of the Stirling Prize, designed the 103-storey tower to accommodate hotel and office space.

The Four Seasons luxury hotel group will take floors at the top, providing remarkable views of China's third-biggest city. The tower will also make a striking addition to the landscape for visitors coming to Guangzhou next month for the 16th Asian Games.

Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/chinas-guangzhou-tower-nears-completion-2121105.html

There will be any observation deck at the tower?

Looked at a drawing of the Guangzhou West Tower on the SkyscraperPage Diagrams and it looks like there are two 100-metre high buildings attached to the West Tower.

I don't agree with this, come on... the revenue of the restaurants where you eat at 6-10 kuai like the ones inside that pic is pretty low and they don't renovate much... neither the residential buildings as you can see

Plus it is expected that 300M+ ppl move to the cities in the following years so it is clear for me that in the middle of a newly CBD high-rise is surely sustainable and decent hotels, restaurants, KTV etc generate millions. The other crappy stuff doesn't!

What I don't see sustainable is all these expensive shops that they always put around or in the skyscrapers and always seem to be empty

I suppose I should say that I'm not completely skeptical. I'm not like Milton Friedman, for example, who famously put down Shanghai's Pudong district as being nothing but a "Potemkin village built for a dead Pharaoh" (the Pharaoh, of course, being Deng Xiaoping). I think in a country with 1.4 billion people, which will inevitably displace the United States are the world's largest economy, there's a need for skyscrapers. There's a need to build up - I'm not blind to that.

That said, looking at these real estate projects here on SkyscraperCity, I can't help but feel like a girl that just got a $30,000 diamond engagement ring. I'm amazed, and it's beautiful, but I just can't help but wonder... where did the money come from?

The answer, of course, is that the overwhelming majority of these buildings are financed by overly cheap loans doled out through the Chinese banking system. The fact that the loans are so cheap allows for real estate development to remain profitable, but also has a profound macroeconomic effect. Remember of course, that the only way that the banks can afford to give out cheap loans is by keeping the deposit rate from their customers extremely low. Thus, from a top-down perspective, the system as a whole represents a massive, yet obfuscated, transfer of wealth from Chinese households to China's real estate developers.

Now, one could argue that such a massive investment in real estate represents an investment in infrastructure for the future. I don't necessarily have too much of a contention with that argument - it doesn't necessarily irk me to see a new building being erected. What does bother me, however, is China's "redevelopment" projects. Here in Shenzhen, there was a massive swath of land called "Gangxia", which was one of the more prosperous villages in the city. The government bulldozed something like 80% of the village for the purpose of "redevelopment", yet of course the land hasn't even been developed on yet.

The way I look at it - if someone wants to build a high rise, they should bulldoze what's in the way and let the rest be. The redevelopment projects aren't really development projects, they're destruction projects. The government doesn't like the noisy, dirty city streets and prefers grandiose buildings that're attractive from the passenger side of their car. It's a very Robert Moses way of looking at a city.

As you say, China still has a large chunk of population living in its rural areas that will one day move into its cities. My question - will a poor farmer be able to afford living in one of the downtown highrises? Or go to a glitzy KTV? Or... how about dine at one of those expensive restaurants? Of course not! They'll peddle their wares, or get a job, or open a restaurant in one of those 'crappy' villages. And they'll eat those 6RMB noodles (which are, by the way, often of a higher quality than it that expensive restaurant)...

Alternatively, China could do what many cities in the United States has done, and gentrify. They can build low rent housing far outside the city, which wile being of higher quality, greatly limits the economic opportunity of its residents.

that thing is too beautiful!

Looked at a drawing of the Guangzhou West Tower on the SkyscraperPage Diagrams and it looks like there are two 100-metre high buildings attached to the West Tower.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=65513289&postcount=2518

look at the picture in that post (dont find the original post right now)
but you can see the building complex there :)

Alternatively, China could do what many cities in the United States has done, and gentrify. They can build low rent housing far outside the city, which wile being of higher quality, greatly limits the economic opportunity of its residents.

I think is better building new cities, suburbs policy fail in China because most chinese prefer live in city center.

As you say, China still has a large chunk of population living in its rural areas that will one day move into its cities. My question - will a poor farmer be able to afford living in one of the downtown highrises? Or go to a glitzy KTV? Or... how about dine at one of those expensive restaurants? Of course not! They'll peddle their wares, or get a job, or open a restaurant in one of those 'crappy' villages. And they'll eat those 6RMB noodles (which are, by the way, often of a higher quality than it that expensive restaurant)...

Alternatively, China could do what many cities in the United States has done, and gentrify. They can build low rent housing far outside the city, which wile being of higher quality, greatly limits the economic opportunity of its residents.

See, you answered by yourself. Obviously a farmer can't affort living in a highrise in the middle of a CBD (which is the area of the short crippled houses a few pages back), the renting here is almost the same as renting in Europe, so he would need 3 salaries only for the rent.

The solution is clear, not only in US, in any part of the world housing on the outskirts of the big cities is way cheaper. Obviously then having to use 1-2h transport each way/day is what the high-class try to avoid

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HUGE IFC :)

beautifull tower, magnificent not only by size

See, you answered by yourself. Obviously a farmer can't affort living in a highrise in the middle of a CBD (which is the area of the short crippled houses a few pages back), the renting here is almost the same as renting in Europe, so he would need 3 salaries only for the rent.

The solution is clear, not only in US, in any part of the world housing on the outskirts of the big cities is way cheaper. Obviously then having to use 1-2h transport each way/day is what the high-class try to avoid

no, that is a horrible solution. segregating the poor only exasperates the problem. affordable housing should be offered IN the city, and people of different incomes should live together. then the lower class will have a much better chance of becoming financially successful, and social problems will be alleviated. although, there's a specific ratio of different incomes required for this to work, so i don't know how much could be done in the context of china considering their proletariate population and the magnitude of rural to urban migration.

simple design, yet elegant. Less is more in this case. Very epic tower.

i've gotta say I love this building.

^^ The future is here.

:)

It's great to see all the surrounding construction finally done and people walking around.

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wow so luxurious building I wish to work there

Nice pics....:okay:

The smoothest building cladding ever !!!!!

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so modern unbelievable ! :cheers:

Beautiful building. That IFC lettering takes some of the classiness away but the building is still one of the best in the world in my opinion and by far the best in Mainland China.

why is IFC written in english in china

Because I believe English is considered the International Business Language.

Also is that a Zaha Hadid building near the base of IFC?

Because I believe English is considered the International Business Language.

Also is that a Zaha Hadid building near the base of IFC?

Yes, that is a Hadid building. It is the Guangzhou Opera House.

i hv some awesome pics in my computer but how to upload? not the url image

i hv some awesome pics in my computer but how to upload? not the url image

Troll?

fantastic...:)

Amazing...wow, freaking great. Just like the new tv tower!

Beautiful building. That IFC lettering takes some of the classiness away.

I agree it would be nicer without it. But still it is a nice building.

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ohhh very nice shots i like it

amazing pics

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great picture's :drool::drool: sweet Guangzhou

The city looks so well planned, modern, filled with a couple unique buildings, and so colourful at night. Also a bit futuristic but not too much.

The city looks so well planned, modern, filled with a couple unique buildings, and so colourful at night. Also a bit futuristic but not too much.

All great cities were very well planned at one time or another.

All great cities were very well planned at one time or another.

Not true. Some cities (one that I am living in now for an example) are not planned at all...

so so modern!! ;) I love it! especially night time :D

This bussiness district blows Pudong out of the water!!

there is 2/3 building in this area that is u/c

unbelievable pics Distinguished :cheers:

What a skyline! Great tower, can't wait for his twin!

unbelievable pics Distinguished :cheers:

Yea now Guangzhou have move on with a unique skyline that's recognizable. Hopefully other can do the same. :lol:

yea i'v felt very comfortable when i walked around the cbd, not only the wonderful buildings,but also the environment that you don't see vehicle in the square. the transportation all under the ground.

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OMG! this is so Contemporary!!! :D Guangzhou, I'm coming to you soon!!! :rock:

YOU ROCK!!!

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:eek2: i so wanna be there right now...

What happened to the East Tower?????

That got to be one of the best skyline photo I've seen.

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by 至尊阿宝, home.news.cn

Great lighting. Very colourful. :)

OMG! this is so Contemporary!!! :D Guangzhou, I'm coming to you soon!!! :rock:

YOU ROCK!!!

Batman can jump in Guangzhou in the next Batman movie, compared the IFC scene in The Dark Knight :cheers:

is it las Vegas or a city? It looks impressive but perhaps verging on tacky?

Ugh. The yellow bands are awful. It looked much better when it was just the cris-crossing pattern.

is it las Vegas or a city? It looks impressive but perhaps verging on tacky?

It's GZ at Asian games. I don't think the lighting will be like this everyday.

Ugh. The yellow bands are awful. It looked much better when it was just the cris-crossing pattern.

Most of it is lit up a certain way for the Asia Games. The lighting pattern on this building is ever-changing.

What happened to the East Tower?????

you mean chow tai fook center? it is on-hold as long the asian games are in the city. i have no idea why, but that kinda sucks i know.

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have a rest,and then post more pics

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fantastic photos

this building is such a beauty

Growth in key sectors spurs Arup expansion
29 December 2010
SCMP

China's booming infrastructure and energy sectors are powering Arup Group to double its China staff in the next five years.

"In five years, Arup will double its mainland headcount from the current 500 to 1,000," said Lewis Shiu, the Beijing group leader of the London-based firm.

"There are two major areas of opportunities for Arup in China, namely infrastructure and energy. With high-speed railway, China's infrastructure market is opening up. For infrastructure like aviation, railway and highways, we are building up resources.

"In the next five years, we believe the total number of our mainland offices can be increased from the current seven to 10-12. We will have more offices along coastal cities such as Dalian, Qingdao or Shenyang. This year, we have opened offices in Chongqing and Taiwan," said Shiu.

Arup now has 500 staff on the mainland and 1,500 in Hong Kong, where it set up its East Asian headquarters in 1976.

Founded in 1946, Arup is a global firm of designers, planners, engineers and business consultants providing a diverse range of professional services.

Its projects include the Hong Kong-Zhuhai-Macau bridge, the Marina Bay Sands casino-hotel in Singapore and the California high-speed railway in the United States.

In the fiscal year to March 31, Arup's turnover amounted to £889 million (HK$10.67 billion), the same as the previous year, but its profit before tax, dividends and exceptional items fell to £23 million from £77 million, according to its website.

As a non-listed firm owned in trust for its employees, Arup does not reveal details of its financial results.

"We are still seeing strong growth in several parts of Asia, especially China," said Arup chairman Philip Dilley in the firm's 2010 corporate report.

China accounts for a third of Arup's East Asian revenue. The group is involved in landmark buildings, including the Canton Tower and the Guangzhou International Finance Centre (IFC).

At 600 metres, the Canton Tower, located in Guangzhou, is the tallest building on the mainland. It formally opened in September while Guangzhou IFC had a soft opening in October.

"We have inquiries for even taller buildings in cities like Beijing and Tianjin," said Shiu. "Infrastructure revenue in China will grow significantly for Arup in the next five years."

The central government is also seeking Arup as a strategic partner for infrastructure projects outside China such as high-speed railway projects, Shiu said. Beijing has been trying to obtain sell high-speed railway projects in the US, Central Asia, the Middle East and Southeast Asia.

Shiu also said: "The Chinese government is alert on energy issues. There will be a lot of projects concerning energy efficiency of production facilities."

Arup offers solutions to enhance the energy efficiency of buildings. It was involved in the design of Nokia's Beijing headquarters, a so-called green building. With a local design and planning institute, the company is now in talks for a low-carbon study for Beijing.

"In 2001, China accessed the WTO and won the rights to host the 2008 Olympics in Beijing. Those were the two major things that pushed us into setting up more offices in China, especially Beijing," said Shiu.

"Because of the Olympics, a lot of international architects came to work on sports venues like the Bird's Nest Stadium. These international architects needed partners. That was a boost for us."

Arup opened its first mainland office in Shenzhen in 1995, and another one in Shanghai in 1996. Its Beijing office started with a few people in 2001 and now has around 140. Arup expects to have 200 staff in Beijing in five years, Shiu said.

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Fantastic shots hc!

I absolutely loved this building before they had to put IFC on top. Now it looks so tacky. WHY! I just dont understand, this was perfect and now just mehh! We all know what this building is, do we really need it speeled out?

I absolutely loved this building before they had to put IFC on top. Now it looks so tacky. WHY! I just dont understand, this was perfect and now just mehh! We all know what this building is, do we really need it speeled out?

then look from the other side of the building?

Wow, beautiful.

you mean chow tai fook center? it is on-hold as long the asian games are in the city. i have no idea why, but that kinda sucks i know.

I thought the games ended 1 month ago?

What a nice building!

I took these last weekend:


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One of my favorite buildings in China, so simple yet elegant.

God damn it!! These people are ruining the forums!! ^^

I wish they could remove the LED linghting stuff

This part of Guangzhou is nice. Is it Tianhe?

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This part of Guangzhou is nice. Is it Tianhe?

Yes - specifically Zhujiang New Town, a part of Tianhe.

the panorama of guangzhou city,especially surround that tower area its outstanding... very nice atmosphere...

Guangzhou should be proud of this building :)

Quick question though, when was this building renamed IFC and when was the IFC added to the top of the building?

Guangzhou should be proud of this building :)

Quick question though, when was this building renamed IFC and when was the IFC added to the top of the building?

It's always been called IFC, west tower is just a nick name!

It's always been called IFC, west tower is just a nick name!

................... My mind has been blown

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