#APPROVED: BARWA TOWER - DOHA, 100F Mixed-use

[MillenniaL]

Name: Barwa tower
Location: doha-Qatar , west bay area , convention area.
Floors: 100F
Height: !!
Construction start: mid 2006
cost:180 million $
total area : 1,337,147 cubic meter
mixed use
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3743/dsc020898bl.jpg
http://img429.imageshack.us/img429/6255/dsc020862hm.jpg
Sorry for the bad quality of the pictures

[Skyline-BRN]

that looks at least 500m :eek2:

[Halawala]

Hi, very nice pics, and thanks MilleniaL for all of your posts. You always bring up the most creative projects.. :) When I read the paper (I think it was the Nov. 15 issue) , they mentioned that it will be on the place of the current exhibition center, and it will be the tallest tower in Doha. Burj Dubai Doha will be over 500 m. tall with the antenna, but this has to be taller then...

[MillenniaL]

you right halawa, it was the Nov issue ...
there were some pictures for other project and i wanted to post them but i didn't coz i have no idea what they are for.

[omarmakki]

Holy shit! That "thing" is so damn tall.
Any idea when it will be finished?

[Bahraini Spirit]

Looks great, but is there demand for all those huge towers at the moment? I can understand 30-50 but 100 is crazy.

[MillenniaL]

I can't understand what's going on in Doha! Everything is changing soooooooo fast

[safqa_tijariya]

people called dubai crazy for building so many buildings... and said '' is there demands! for all those things!'' after 2 weeks the UAE removed the law of needing a local partner to be able to open your own business or a factory or watsoever, its been 2 weeks that this law has been removed and 30% of the vacant spaces in dubai offices/residential have been filled, many palestinians,jordanian,syrians,yemenis and iranis have went their and in 2006 Dubai expects more to come (by the way the mentioned nationalities are the majority who went to dubai).

Thought still there is arabs who think dubai is too liberal for them and not their type of place for living because of the many westerners there is (it wont take more than 5 months max until qatar removes this law) ,
Qatar on the other hand is very respected by palestinians,jordanians,syrians,IRAQIS( since from every 10 qatari maybe 4 or 6 are originaly from iraq, guys dont flame me on this one look at families such as al-kubaisi and al-nuaimi..) many will go there when this law will be removed.

(btw guys does anyone have the article about this law's removal (qanoon al kafeel) this law will surely be removed from all gulf countries except saudi arabia because its not in its interest. and other than that this law is kind of 2 edged, if they see a person is very succeful they will grant him the watever gulf nationality qatar and kuwait have been doing that.

[MillenniaL]

Sorry I don’t have it,
if they see a person is very succeful they will grant him the watever gulf nationality qatar and kuwait have been doing that.
Are you sure about this?! Coz as I know this can happen only in UAE

[malec]

Looks great, but is there demand for all those huge towers at the moment? I can understand 30-50 but 100 is crazy.
I ask the same question.


But then again :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: (now where's that super-long eek smiley)

BTW, doesn't this deserve to go in the world forums? The Dubai bug is spreading! :D

[safqa_tijariya]

Sorry I don’t have it,

Are you sure about this?! Coz as I know this can happen only in UAE

i know many iraqis,palestinians and iranians who have been granted nationality in qatar and kuwait. kuwait has a law made in 2001.

[MillenniaL]

I ask the same question.


But then again :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: (now where's that super-long eek smiley)

BTW, doesn't this deserve to go in the world forums? The Dubai bug is spreading! :D

It's too early to post it in the world forum coz there is lack of info about this project, especially the height!… and I promise once we find more info and renders , I'll post it the world forum for sure.

[MillenniaL]

BTW, I find the cost of this project is too low! Since similar project are muuuuuuuuuuch higher in cost. I could be wrong, my background of project budget is naïve.

[MillenniaL]

i know many iraqis,palestinians and iranians who have been granted nationality in qatar and kuwait. kuwait has a law made in 2001.

Well it is better then to citizen Arabs than non Arabs who can't speak Arabic and their cultures and background are different
:)

[malec]

BTW, I find the cost of this project is too low! Since similar project are muuuuuuuuuuch higher in cost. I could be wrong, my background of project budget is naïve.
Yes it is way too low. The burj dubai tower is costing $800m and compared to most other places this is very cheap for a tower this size. In Chicago, the trump international hotel and tower costs more than this and I heard figures aproaching $2bn for fordham spire. Of course building costs are lower in the ME but still, that's way too little for this tower

[MillenniaL]

yea ,maybe the newspaper made a mistake in the cost or $180m is just the cost of the building not for the whole project .

[dubaiflo]

only the building i would say.

so, 100F for DOHA, another one 400m +
amazing design btw i love it,
hope better rendering are availabe soon.
did they announce this via press release already?

[Skyline-BRN]

the question of demand is one that particularly comes to mind. The problem with these super talls in cities like doha is that it might actaully slow down the growth of the citys development in temrs of urban density. nevertheless this is a great tower :)

[Dismanirie]

Well it is better then to citizen Arabs than non Arabs who can't speak Arabic and their cultures and background are different
:)
I have Kurdish friends who are Norwegian, British buddies who are Iraqi, Australian mates who are Yemeni, Venezuelans from Lebanon. Why should this part of the world be exempt from absorbing people from other countries who feel at home here and can contribute to society? :hm:

[MillenniaL]

I made this picture to show you how BARWA tower, DUBAI tower, ALBIDAA tower, and DOHA office tower will look like in our skyline. Hope It will be very close to the reality. :colgate:

http://www.al3nabi.net/upload/show.php?pic=96323

Notice: there is an illusion in the picture due to the perspective, buildings in the right appear smaller than the left coz the left are closer to the camera.
But I mad the size of the 4 towers as there is no illusion

[safqa_tijariya]

I have Kurdish friends who are Norwegian, British buddies who are Iraqi, Australian mates who are Yemeni, Venezuelans from Lebanon. Why should this part of the world be exempt from absorbing people from other countries who feel at home here and can contribute to society? :hm:


you live in a democratic country and should respect ''your!'' laws we dont live in a democratic country and you should respect ''OUR'' laws. get it?

look if we in kuwait give the nationality only to arabs its our decision we decide what to do with our small country and besides one of the main rules for an arab getting the nationality is if he shares the same values as kuwaitis thats why the ones who are getting the passport are only iraqis,palestinians,yemenis,saudis, and other gulf nationalities such as omani. We want conservative who can keep our culture going on, all the ones who received the passport have become great supporters of kuwait and have adopted the kuwaiti customs at 90% if not more!
We need to preserve our culture thats why we cannot give the passport to anyone and our culture demands a certain kind of people, i know kuwaitis that are kurdish! iranians and indians! for your personal information but they have living here for a long time and contributed a lot for kuwait (ever since 1920 and some before!) and i also know a norwegian who lives in kuwait and is considerd as kuwaiti he helped us kuwaitis a lot in improoving our farms, he made our strawberry very big and gave it a great taste! thought this guy wears as if he was in the 16th century norway, we have no problem in that since he contributed, He got the passport not long ago after converting to islam he lives in kuwait with his wife and children and everyone likes him, I can even bet you that arabs who do terrorist operations against foreigners like him!

there is kinda the same kind in the UAE 2 canadians who helped the UAE (then all the ME) to improove the birth rate of camels, horses, falcons,eagles,etc. they both live in the UAE married , have children and have converted to islam 3-4 years ago, they got the UAE passport. But this doesnt mean we will give the passport to all new ''converts'' those did it out of pure heart and loved our country and culture and have made a BIG! contribution. They have adopted our way of seeing things they left their political ideology they had in their native countries and adopted ours they did many things!

can you do that?

[Dubai-Lover]

congratulations
doha has many good looking projects, especially the tall ones

i hope we get more info soon

strange that no 400m tower is approved and has been launched for dubai at the moment apart from these various megatalls like burj dubai, al burj, park square tower

[MillenniaL]

SEE this with some other towers that will appear in our skyline; there are more towers but I can't put them all coz I don’t know how they will look from this angel of the picture
http://www.al3nabi.net/upload/show.php?pic=96464 :)

[Qatar_Blue]

:eek2: :eek2: :eek2: mashlah mashalah.

Doha is gona be crazy i 2010 can not wait to see than.

Thank you MillenniaL

[Qatar_Blue]

Be Proud my follow Qataris


Bo Mish3al (H.H Emire of Qatar Sh. Hamad bin Khalifa Al-Thani) we love you.

[omarmakki]

SEE this with some other towers that will appear in our skyline; there are more towers but I can't put them all coz I don’t know how they will look from this angel of the picture
http://www.al3nabi.net/upload/show.php?pic=96464 :)
Wow! It really looks fantastic!

Inshallah it will even look better in reality...:)

[Qatar4Ever]

My God. What is this !!

First of, who said that 6 out of 10 qataris are from iraq ?? Al na3ym arent from Iraq, al-sada are !!

Anyways, yeah the skyline looks nice and colorful, but a lot of ppl dont think what will this do to us as a ppl, as a culture and the changes this will result in Qatar.

I pride myself in Qatar cause of our rich heritage and tribal/muslim culture. IT will all disappear with these projects. We're gaining something at the expanse of something that is very dear to us and cant be valued at any price at all.

[wakrah-wi-bas]

al-nu3ayim, al-ka3ban, al-3atieah, al-shimiri & al-kubisah have branches in iraq but they're not originally from iraq.

al-sada, my family, are NOT from iraq, they're from alhijaz, but spread all over the islamic world. some of them are sharifs, former rulers of mekkah, some are hashimtes, direct descendnts from the most famous arabic tribe, qurish.

[safqa_tijariya]

al-nu3ayim, al-ka3ban, al-3atieah, al-shimiri & al-kubisah have branches in iraq but they're not originally from iraq.

al-sada, my family, are NOT from iraq, they're from alhijaz, but spread all over the islamic world. some of them are sharifs, former rulers of mekkah, some are hashimtes, direct descendnts from the most famous arabic tribe, qurish.

i met a Qatari from al-nu3aymi he told me they are sayeds from iraq (the descendants of the 12 imam's) btw he wasnt shi'ite! and i met a guy from al-kubaysi he told me they are originaly from iraq.

[Skyline-BRN]

SEE this with some other towers that will appear in our skyline; there are more towers but I can't put them all coz I don’t know how they will look from this angel of the picture
http://www.al3nabi.net/upload/show.php?pic=96464 :)

:eek2: :eek2: :eek2:

[beiklopa]

ok going back to dubai threads, feels more liberal in there somehow....

[dave550]

You guys. Lets not talk about tribes in here. I really don't want you guys to start developing attitudes with each other, like in other local forums of SSC.

[wakrah-wi-bas]

i met a Qatari from al-nu3aymi he told me they are sayeds from iraq (the descendants of the 12 imam's) btw he wasnt shi'ite! and i met a guy from al-kubaysi he told me they are originaly from iraq.

thnx man, i received ur private e-mail with great interest. tried 2 reply but the msg didn't went through, apparently a problem with ur e-mail addr.

thnx again & have a wonderful Eid 2day & forever.

[wakrah-wi-bas]

You guys. Lets not talk about tribes in here. I really don't want you guys to start developing attitudes with each other, like in other local forums of SSC.

u'r right, last thing we need here is to open Pandora's box :nono:

[Qatar4Ever]

Al - sada are from iraq.

Al sada are the direct decendents of a religious man called ahmed bin kasab al raf3aya who moved from iraq into north qatar. He was invited by manan3ah clan who at the time lived in bu thloof village. He married one of their daughters and settled nearby in what is today ruwais village, which many of al-sada and other ashraf families, mine included, live there currently.

True, they were from hijaz and they're great ancestors did rule mecca, hence there name ashraf.. yashrfeen 3alla meca.

The family extends from the rulers of today moroco all the way to indonesia.

When I said iraq because the alsada clan of qatar, bahrain and dareen island in saudi all come from one man who came over from iraq.

and the n3yms u talk about might be another n3yim. NO way they are from iraq, some in bahrain are shia thats because they come from a village in bahrain called naim village but have nothing to do with the other na3yims.


and amazing picture.. although im sour about all this development, it still looks amazing.

[Skoulikimou]

:omg: what is that !!, guys what do keep your project at low profile, post this project in the international / World forum NOW .

[suzan]

what's up with this toweR?

[salman515]

last thing I heard they changed the hole design and now its called convention center tower not barwa, I dont remember the number of floors.

[suzan]

r u serious :( u think its not that tall anymore?

[salman515]

^^ it is tall, about 100 or more :)

[suzan]

^^ it is tall, about 100 or more :)

:dance:




:okay:

[qatari 4 ever]

هذا خبر قديم شوي

قطر: "بروة العقارية" تبني مجمعا للمعارض وبرج بارتفاع 100 طابق

المصدر : جريدة الاقتصادية 18/12/1426هـ

حسن أبو عرفات - الدوحة -
قررت شركة بروة العقارية طرح أسهمها في سوق الدوحة للأوراق المالية خلال شهر من تاريخ انعقاد الجمعية التأسيسية وتأجل اجتماع الجمعية العامة التأسيسية للشركة أمس لعدم اكتمال النصاب القانوني الذي حدد أن تكون بنسبة 50 في المائة من رأس المال، بينما كانت نسبة الحضور 6.45 في المائة وسيعقد الاجتماع التأسيسي الخميس المقبل.
وقال غانم بن سعد آل سعد رئيس اللجنة التأسيسية، إن مجلس الإدارة يسعى إلى تطوير بعض المشاريع الحيوية للشركة حيث منها بناء برج بروة العقاري الذي يتكون من 100 طابق، إضافة إلى بناء مجمع ضخم للمعارض على مساحة 45 ألف متر مربع وبناء أكبر موقف للسيارات يسع من 4800 إلى 5600 موقف سيارة في منطقة الدوحة الحديثة بجوار مركز قطر الدولي للمعارض، كما أن الشركة تأمل أن تتعاون مع الشركات القطرية في الانتهاء من الإجراءات الرئيسية للمشروع خلال الأشهر الستة المقبلة للبدء فيه فورا، إضافة إلى أن هناك تعاونا مع الشركة القطرية الاستثمارية العقارية، حيث تم الاتفاق معها على إنشاء مشروعين كبيرين سيطرحان قريباً، وذلك لتطوير منطقتين حيويتين في قطر سيتم الإعلان عنهما قريباً.
وقال هناك خطة واضحة ومدروسة لبناء وتطوير أربع قطع أراض أساسية للشركة بوسط الدوحة وفي أفضل المناطق بمميزات كثيرة لتطويرها ومن ثم بيعها، مشيرا إلى أن الشركة اشترت هذه القطع بأسعار جيدة وخصم كبير وسعرها السوقي يصل إلى 3.6 مليار ريال.
وعن رؤيته للقطاع العقاري في البلاد، أوضح آل سعد أن القطاع العقاري في قطر يشهد تحولات جذرية هي الأكبر في تاريخه وهو ينسجم مع توجهات الدولة بتحويل قطر إلى مركز مالي وإقليمي وعالمي، حيث شهدت تراخيص البناء والتوسع العمراني زيادة كبيرة سواء على مستوى مدينة الدوحة أو حتى باقي المناطق وفي كل مكونات القطاع العقاري، وهو ما يستجيب لمتطلبات النهضة الاقتصادية الشاملة على كل المستويات وتحديداً في قطاع العقار.
وتشير أحدث الدراسات التي أجريت على سوق العقارات العالمية إلى أن الدوحة ستشهد بناء وتشييد ما بين 150 و200 برج خلال السنوات الخمس المقبلة وبتكلفة إجمالية تجاوز 15 مليار ريال قطري، ويرى المحللون العقاريون أن هذه الأبراج ستعزز النمو في قطاع الإنشاء والتشييد والبنوك والمصارف التي ستكون ممولاً رئيسياً لبناء هذه الأبراج، ويتوقع أن تراوح تكلفة البرج الواحد بين 80 و100 مليون ريال قطري.

[4I.â.B4]

what???? :?
anyone can translate it to english?

[Skoulikimou]

Barwa Tower at West Bay
February 2007

Owner: Barwa Real Estate Company
Budget: $300 million
Scope of work: The project calls for the design and construction of a 100-storey mixed-use tower in the West Bay district in Doha.
Status: Sources indicate that the development is in the final stage of design work. Tender documents for the main contract should be issued in March.

www.gulfconstructionworldwide.com

[Massilia]

Thanks for the info...this means there is Barwa Tower AND Convention Centre Tower, right? Or is it one and only project??:nuts:

[suzan]

^^ Someone plz answer Massilia's question coz I wana know that too!!:D

[salman515]

Its one tower as far as I know.

[omarmakki]

This is getting too confusing!
Isn't Barwa building two supertalls?

[4I.â.B4]

:???:

[hazeem]

convention centre + 1 tower..........dats it and that is one project by barwa....

[4I.â.B4]

^^:okay:

[Massilia]

I still have my doubts about all this :)

This is the render for Doha Convention Centre and Tower:
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7828/20146330511c793dcabows9.jpg

So clearly the project is there with the X marking the tower:
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5549/avatar684602dcctsp1.jpg

Now here is what Hazeem pointed out: the Barwa Tower is destined to be at the other side of the convention center!
Note this is the same pointed roof in the 2 renders.
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3781/dcctdt2vdb3.jpghttp://img473.imageshack.us/img473/9593/dsc020898blxhu7.jpg

According to this, the location of Barwa Tower is there:
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/1579/avatar684602bns9.jpg




CONCLUSION

There are 2 Supertalls, close but in 2 different blocks :):rock:

[Qatar Son 333]

my head hurts :( but the last sentence made my day :banana:but i feel sorry for the doha city center towers the will be blocked by these 2 towers :(

[hazeem]

gud one massila....

so the convention centre will extend from one end to another......if that happens then the first designed tower will be in place instead of QATAR TOWER......

but i think the first design is rejected........theres no chance of two supertalls.....and if that happens then it goin to be miracle.........lets wait n see!!!!!

[4I.â.B4]

Yay! Supertalls in the middle

[Halawala]

I think there will be only 1 supertall. It doesnt make sense to build two on the same block.

[Massilia]

Yeah I agree this is a lot of speculation..but let's wait and see :)

[Halawala]

Although this tower is simple, it is certainly one of the best designed. It looks like an obilisque and will be striking in the skyline of Doha in 2012!

[4I.â.B4]

Although this tower is simple, it is certainly one of the best designed. It looks like an obilisque and will be striking in the skyline of Doha in 2012!

2012 is a long time. :( :ohno:

[bhaggy3]

you cannot find out the location of the tower from the render! Many towers before have shown towers to be surrrounded by trees and water when they are in the middle of west bay. The render does not show you where it is...

[4I.â.B4]

ya, sometimes

[Saudi guy]

COOL :okay: Doha has many great towers wow:nuts:

[Massilia]

you cannot find out the location of the tower from the render! Many towers before have shown towers to be surrrounded by trees and water when they are in the middle of west bay. The render does not show you where it is...

Well for the render of the Convention Centre Tower, it seems clear...all towers on it already exist and are at their accurate spot :) Let's hope they've been true to us this time!!

[4I.â.B4]

Well for the render of the Convention Centre Tower, it seems clear...all towers on it already exist and are at their accurate spot :) Let's hope they've been true to us this time!!

It doesn't show all, the city centre towers aren't shown

[amrja]

Well for the render of the Convention Centre Tower, it seems clear...all towers on it already exist and are at their accurate spot :) Let's hope they've been true to us this time!!

The render of the West Bay Lagoon had the Chicago skyline in the background! I wouldn't trust renders too much if I were you when it comes to location...

[AlexanderSS]

Is this project cancelled?

[Halawala]

^^^ No, it isnt officially launched yet.

[AlexanderSS]

Oh, thats why, thanks mate!

[4I.â.B4]

Oh... btw the tower is 480m.

[omarmakki]

Source?

[4I.â.B4]

ssp

[Jim856796]

Seeing that the Barwa Tower and the Doha Convention Centre Tower may be the same project, don't you think we should close this thread?

[amnesia]

any additional photos of Barwa Tower?

[Qatar Son 333]

^^ my friend barwa tower is just an old design of Doha tower ;) but both designs are truly great

[4I.â.B4]

Maybe new or old renders?

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/8127/barwa5500800kt9.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2994/barwa6500800gb1.jpg

[Qatar Son 333]

^^ Hey ! it looks kinda like the old design of Oryx tower it has the same base shape....etc

but at the sme time WoW ! omg its sad it wouldnt be built :(

[4I.â.B4]

^^Nope, not old design of Oryx Tower, At the top of the page it said Barwa blah blah and was separated from Oryx.

[Qatar Son 333]

Yes but check the 2 pictures....

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7189/oryxtowerbk7.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2994/barwa6500800gb1.jpg

but either way i would choose the second one :)

[4I.â.B4]

^^You can see the base are different, oryx looks more in front and barwa behind.

[ahmad.oustwani]

it looks like these two are one project to me.....an older and a newer design most probably.....i like the old design....not the oryx one......it looks cooler

[nihad]

so which ones fixed..???

[Qatar Son 333]

^^ None !