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dogyears January 3rd, 2006, 02:08 PM http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/8140/163d6pa.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
To me it's probabily the Chicago Tribune towers. It's not an ugly building by a long shot, but it's not all that beautiful either - but somehow every publicaton I read about it is raving on and on. Oh well.
909 January 3rd, 2006, 03:26 PM The Tribune Tower and the design competition has left it's marks in the history of architecture.
But for me, the most overrated tower was the former WTC. Without the height the towers wouldn't be noticed by most people and after '9/11' people were romancing the towers, making them more beautiful than they were. Yes, they were an icon, but only because of it's location and size. In the beginning the towers weren't that populair:
Their size was the subject of a joke during a press conference unveiling the landmarks. Minoru Yamasaki was asked: "Why two 110-story buildings? Why not one 220-story building?" His response was: "I didn't want to lose the human scale." Another joke was that the towers looked like the boxes that the Chrysler Building and Empire State Building came out of.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTC
http://www.shabru.com/WTC%20at%20Night.jpg
Rene Nunez January 3rd, 2006, 06:57 PM ^^ I agree. It is rather stoic in it's mamouthness but leaning more towards function and a lot less to form. Also, the Empire State Building isnt truly that gorgeous....I feel they are given false beauty just because of their history and fame..
The Mad Hatter!! January 4th, 2006, 12:20 AM 1. wtc
2. empire state
3. jin mao
4.aon center
5.boa atlanta
spyguy January 4th, 2006, 01:37 AM I think you're alone on your choice of the Tribune Tower. It's an amazing tower, and like someone mentioned above, the design competition was equally famous.
Manila-X January 4th, 2006, 04:52 AM I think the Petronas is the most overrated!
Art Deco January 4th, 2006, 12:34 PM Yeah, the Empire State Building is the most overrated... by virtue of being the most famous building on the planet.
Manila-X January 4th, 2006, 12:48 PM The Empire State Bldg is the best skyscraper and possible the most famous. But in this forum, I've seen too much of The Petronas!
Art Deco January 4th, 2006, 12:55 PM Oh c'mon WANCH, you know you'd love them on HK Island right next to the BoC. :D
Nacho_82 January 4th, 2006, 01:46 PM I agree about the ESB. The Chrysler building is 1000 times better
crazyevildude January 4th, 2006, 04:24 PM Since 9/11 the WTC twins. Before then no where near as many people regarded them as highly as they do now. What happened that day does not give the buildings a better design.
Azn_chi_boi January 4th, 2006, 05:08 PM 1. wtc
2. empire state
3. jin mao
4.aon center
5.boa atlanta
The Aon center, overrated? :lol: not much people notice it, and it is the 2nd tallest building in Chicago, the 3rd tallest in the US. The tallest building with a spire or antennea.
Petronas is the most overrated building, IMO.
No Change No Future January 4th, 2006, 11:09 PM Definitely the WTC, massive ugly grey boxes, I appreciated its height and significance, but the building was just hideous in my opinion.
TalB January 5th, 2006, 12:38 AM If you ever looked at them close up, they actually looked better than from a distance.
http://www.gdphoto.com/domestic/images/WTC%20F36489.jpg
Jules January 5th, 2006, 01:13 AM Burj Al Arab. Nothing against Dubai, just not a fan of this building.
Manila-X January 5th, 2006, 05:13 AM Oh c'mon WANCH, you know you'd love them on HK Island right next to the BoC. :D
Actually no! It doesn't fit HK's skyline. Same with The Taipei 101 but the Jin Mao would look nice for HK ;)
Art Deco January 5th, 2006, 05:20 AM Actually no! It doesn't fit HK's skyline. Same with The Taipei 101 but the Jin Mao would look nice for HK ;)
I was only kidding. :)
mr_storms January 5th, 2006, 05:42 AM IMO, 2IFC. For some reason, I just dont like that building at all. Thats just personal preference though, definitely not in the majority here. I also think ESB is overrated, but not by much. Chrysler, on the other hand, it way underrated despite being a better looking building IMO.
Alboboy11 January 5th, 2006, 05:44 AM lemme ask u guys something? If the twin towers were so overated why are countries around the world now mimicking what new york did with the "twin tower" thing...the twin towers were beautiful in real life too, just gotta see them from up close thats it..they really were beautiful
Manila-X January 5th, 2006, 05:52 AM lemme ask u guys something? If the twin towers were so overated why are countries around the world now mimicking what new york did with the "twin tower" thing...the twin towers were beautiful in real life too, just gotta see them from up close thats it..they really were beautiful
I agree but other cities build twin towers not because they were influnced by WTC. I don't think those who planned Petronas were mimicking the twin towers.
But the WTC is impressive! Especially the cladding which is platinum in color!
OtAkAw January 5th, 2006, 06:00 AM Petronas of Kuala Lumpur
Harkeb January 5th, 2006, 06:04 AM The Petronas are just awesome. Definitely not overrated. Most Americans in here thinking they're overrated just seem to have sour grapes, for the KL towers were first to take 'the worlds tallest' out of their country.
Art Deco January 5th, 2006, 10:27 PM The Petronas are just awesome. Definitely not overrated. Most Americans in here thinking they're overrated just seem to have sour grapes, for the KL towers were first to take 'the worlds tallest' out of their country.
And people thinking the Empire State Building is overrated isn't sour grapes about not having a structure widely considered to be the most famous in the world? You're probably thinking "Um, no" and I feel the same about Americans being jealous because the Petronas took the Sears Tower's title with spire height. That's Chicago anyway, haha. :)
TalB January 6th, 2006, 01:03 AM The Tribune Tower and the design competition has left it's marks in the history of architecture.
But for me, the most overrated tower was the former WTC. Without the height the towers wouldn't be noticed by most people and after '9/11' people were romancing the towers, making them more beautiful than they were. Yes, they were an icon, but only because of it's location and size. In the beginning the towers weren't that populair:
http://www.shabru.com/WTC%20at%20Night.jpg
Showing it at night is much actually makes it look better than it does durring the day.
CrazyDave January 6th, 2006, 01:17 AM I'll have to say the Seagram Building in NY. My 3 year old God Son could have Designed it !!!
:) :) :) :) :) :) :)
CrazyDave January 6th, 2006, 01:19 AM Here's a link to the Seagram Building:
http://www.thecityreview.com/park375.html
spyguy January 6th, 2006, 01:21 AM We know what Seagram is. And that's not overrated either, it's just that you probably don't like Mies very much, or his particular style.
JV_325i January 8th, 2006, 09:28 PM No sour grapes for me; I DO NOT like the Petronas and feel they are highly overrated. In addition to those things add: ESB, WTC, One Liberty in Philly, 2 IFC, 311 South Wacker Drive.
spyguy January 8th, 2006, 09:33 PM Not to be mean, but One Liberty and 311 South Wacker are overrated? They're hardly mentioned and most people probably don't even know their names.
Art Deco January 8th, 2006, 10:09 PM I don't care how overrated people may think 2-IFC is... that is one badass skyscraper. Period. The same is said for the Empire State Building and World Trade Center. For what people may think those particular towers lack in design for their worldwide acclaim, they more than make up for in sheer POWER. The same can be said for those who believe the Sears Tower is overrated. Those buildings follow true skyscraper form and are incredibly awe inspiring. Height may not mean everything, but is most certainly is the first thing that even makes a building a skyscraper in the first place.
nomarandlee January 9th, 2006, 02:01 AM Puerta de Europa I and II in Madrid (the inclining towers). I am all for new and unique but I just don't care to feast my eyes upon them. Maybe they are better in person but I don't like them much. Also Swiss Re in London I just do not care for. Very good intricate design and materials but the shape just makes me want to puke.
Jules January 9th, 2006, 04:26 AM No sour grapes for me; I DO NOT like the Petronas and feel they are highly overrated. In addition to those things add: ESB, WTC, One Liberty in Philly, 2 IFC, 311 South Wacker Drive.
I think that's probably the first time I've heard someone mention 311 S. Wacker. Definitely not overrated, unknown if anything.
Gordon Freeman January 9th, 2006, 04:30 AM Empire State Building
mr_storms January 9th, 2006, 04:35 AM I think that's probably the first time I've heard someone mention 311 S. Wacker. Definitely not overrated, unknown if anything.
Exactly...how can this building be overrated? Most people in the US, let alone the world, dont know about this building. Its not a legend like ESB, thus doesnt have a hype to hold up
davykid15 January 9th, 2006, 05:04 AM I'd have to say Sears Tower and WTC, because of the whole height thing.
DarkFenX January 9th, 2006, 05:05 AM The Petronas are just awesome. Definitely not overrated. Most Americans in here thinking they're overrated just seem to have sour grapes, for the KL towers were first to take 'the worlds tallest' out of their country.
No. It's because if you put them next to each other, the Sears Tower looks way taller but because of that tiny lil spire, it's shorter. They should build a spire on the Sears Tower or count the antennaes as a spire like what they did with the Chase Tower in Indianapolis.
Harkeb January 9th, 2006, 05:30 AM Sydney opera house, I'd say. In every damn article featuring Australia or picture of Sydney, the Opera house would show! Australia=opera house & kangaroos...Give us a break!!
jlshyang January 9th, 2006, 05:30 AM No. It's because if you put them next to each other, the Sears Tower looks way taller but because of that tiny lil spire, it's shorter. They should build a spire on the Sears Tower or count the antennaes as a spire like what they did with the Chase Tower in Indianapolis.
Both are equally towering. Regarding the 'World's Tallest' debate, i'll still say the spires are an integral part of the building whether you like it or not and Petronas can always built a clear winner rather than putting the spires and spark of this debate, and don't forget they build two. :) Heights aside, the PTT and the Sears Tower are my favourite skyscrapers.
DarkFenX January 9th, 2006, 06:53 AM Both are equally towering. Regarding the 'World's Tallest' debate, i'll still say the spires are an integral part of the building whether you like it or not and Petronas can always built a clear winner rather than putting the spires and spark of this debate, and don't forget they build two. :) Heights aside, the PTT and the Sears Tower are my favourite skyscrapers.
I am not saying that the spire is not part of the building but if the Chase Tower in Indy can count it's so call spire, then so could the Sears Tower.
Look at the comparison (Using my city's tallest). You can see that Chase Tower is only taller because one of its 'spire' is a communication antennae and the other is decoration. Isn't the Sears Tower exactly the same with it's antennae?
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9781/line5fu.png
(Image is from SSP)
Petronas Tower: 1483ft/452m
Sears Tower: 1451ft/442m
Chase Tower: 811ft/247m
John Hancock Tower:790ft/240m
CULWULLA January 9th, 2006, 12:29 PM Sydney opera house, I'd say. In every damn article featuring Australia or picture of Sydney, the Opera house would show! Australia=opera house & kangaroos...Give us a break!!
theres a reason for that. Its one of the worlds great buildings! Its a beuatiful structure inside and out.Its setting on sydney harbour is one of the greatest locations.Its now being considered to be included as one of the new 7 wonders of the world!!
http://physics.gac.edu/~chuck/NewZealand2005/Feb3/opera%20house%20from%20ferry.jpg
article>
worldwide vote for the new seven wonders
http://cms.n7w.com/
Sydney Opera House short-listed for new 'Seven Wonders'
A group conducting a survey to find the new 'Seven Wonders of the World' has included the Sydney Opera House in a short-list of 21 international landmarks.
The list is a combination of more modern landmarks, like the Eiffel Tower in Paris, and older candidates, including Colosseum in Rome, the ancient city of Petra in Jordan, and China's Great Wall.
Project organiser Bernard Weber wants people to vote for the new "Seven Wonders" by internet or telephone.
"The ancient Seven Wonders were declared by a single man about 2,000 years ago, so I thought as a millennium project it would be fun to combine the latest technology with this possibility to have this time all the people of the world select what they decide to be the new Seven Wonders of the World," he said.
The Swiss-based foundation will published the results in a year.
samsonyuen January 9th, 2006, 11:00 PM Oriental Pearl
Burj Dubai
Taipei 101
London Bridge Tower
Jules January 9th, 2006, 11:39 PM I am not saying that the spire is not part of the building but if the Chase Tower in Indy can count it's so call spire, then so could the Sears Tower.
Look at the comparison (Using my city's tallest). You can see that Chase Tower is only taller because one of its 'spire' is a communication antennae and the other is decoration. Isn't the Sears Tower exactly the same with it's antennae?
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9781/line5fu.png
(Image is from SSP)
Petronas Tower: 1483ft/452m
Sears Tower: 1451ft/442m
Chase Tower: 811ft/247m
John Hancock Tower:790ft/240m
Man that pisses me off, I think it's absolutely ridiculous that they're considered taller than Sears. :gaah:
Any retard can see PT are beat.
JoseRodolfo January 9th, 2006, 11:48 PM I agree to those had chose WTC twin towers. They were too much massive and gray, I prefer NYC skyline today most.
After WTC, I think about the Petronas, I dont like the design :P
james2390 January 10th, 2006, 01:59 AM BOC in Hong Kong.
philadweller January 10th, 2006, 02:06 AM I don't mind Liberty Place here in Philly. I do mind the second tower though ...Liberty II. I still am a fan of the Mellon. It looks like a cheap rip off.
In the country I would say the Sears Tower. I like the way it anchors the skyline but it seems to be more about height than design. Maybe its because the rest of the Chicago is so much more damn interesting.
I agree that WTC was bland, again more about height than design.
TallBox January 10th, 2006, 02:20 AM Burj Al Arab, Dubai
2IFC, Hong Kong
Library Tower, LA
LBT, London
Liz L January 10th, 2006, 02:33 AM HMMMM......I think impressive isn't the same thing as great design, somehow...
From pics I've seen, the WTC towers, for instance, were inpressisve for their height and the way they danced with the light, but they were still boxes, even if they were *jaw-dropping* *neck-craning* * HUGE* boxes. Other *AHEM* skyscrapers use every inch of their height just as well, and have a good deal more "class"...
I don't tnink I'm picking on the twins, either; I think the same thing could be said, more or less, for a lot of the modernist or post-modern towers, which seem to have height, a nice shiney-shiney facade, and not much else...
C|2azyCanuck January 10th, 2006, 02:36 AM I'd probably get flamed back to the stoneage with mine.
dogyears January 10th, 2006, 03:01 AM theres a reason for that. Its one of the worlds great buildings! Its a beuatiful structure inside and out.Its setting on sydney harbour is one of the greatest locations.Its now being considered to be included as one of the new 7 wonders of the world!!
article>
worldwide vote for the new seven wonders
http://cms.n7w.com/
Sydney Opera House short-listed for new 'Seven Wonders'
A group conducting a survey to find the new 'Seven Wonders of the World' has included the Sydney Opera House in a short-list of 21 international landmarks.
The list is a combination of more modern landmarks, like the Eiffel Tower in Paris, and older candidates, including Colosseum in Rome, the ancient city of Petra in Jordan, and China's Great Wall.
Project organiser Bernard Weber wants people to vote for the new "Seven Wonders" by internet or telephone.
"The ancient Seven Wonders were declared by a single man about 2,000 years ago, so I thought as a millennium project it would be fun to combine the latest technology with this possibility to have this time all the people of the world select what they decide to be the new Seven Wonders of the World," he said.
The Swiss-based foundation will published the results in a year.
Agreed ! The opera house is even more magnificent in up close. I think the fact it's such an icon takes away some of the mystery of the building, and then making it some kind of a cliche - but it's certainly not overated !
JV_325i January 10th, 2006, 04:17 AM Not to be mean, but One Liberty and 311 South Wacker are overrated? They're hardly mentioned and most people probably don't even know their names.
No offense taken, but I can think of plenty of times on random threads and among friends of mine in which One Liberty is frequently stated as being "brilliant" and "easily one of the best skyscrapers in the country," so, yes, among the (albeit less than others) comments I have heard about One Liberty, I can confidently claim that it is overrated.
I suppose I really can't say the same about 311 S. Wacker though, as it is mainly my friends in Chicago that never stop praising the damn thing that causes me to think of it as overrated, so I suppose that can be removed from my list.
Harkeb January 10th, 2006, 05:43 AM Re: The building comparison above. If that's a comparison on scale, then it's as clear as daylight that the Sears Tower has always been taller than Petronas. It's a plain stupid argument to include 'spire' but not 'antennae' in the height. Petronas look prettier, but surely not taller. Fair is fair. I think Chicago has been robbed all thes times!
TalB January 11th, 2006, 04:15 AM I am not too surprised to hear about the WTC being overrated, b/c a number of buildings that were done by Minorou Yamasaki were considered overrated as well, though the Twins were one of the few that actually got a good perspective.
emutiny January 15th, 2006, 10:38 AM I think the Petronas is the most overrated!
hit the nail on the head
jlshyang January 15th, 2006, 04:43 PM hit the nail on the head
The Petronas Towers clearly deserves the recognition. Have you seen them in reality? :cheers:
EtherealMist January 16th, 2006, 02:59 AM The Sears tower definitely looks like the taller building... it is just barely beaten by the Petronas' spire. But then the Sears has its own massive antannae that reach way higher.
Alot might disagree with me but a building I think is overated is the Swiss Re. It has a very original design but I just think its kind of ugly for some reason.
Hecago January 21st, 2006, 02:55 AM Man that pisses me off, I think it's absolutely ridiculous that they're considered taller than Sears. :gaah:
Any retard can see PT are beat.
Maybe I hould sneak in there in the middle of the night and saw those spires off. :devil:
thryve January 21st, 2006, 03:15 AM To answer to the thread title, in my own opinion: every project in Dubai... ;)
...because they are in Dubai they have this instant cache, but really... most of them are pretty normal ;) Same materials and all
ARTЁM January 21st, 2006, 03:17 AM i think
1. Taipei 101, the ugliest skyscraper in the world.
2. Petronas Towers - just kitschy
Kev the burninator January 21st, 2006, 03:48 AM i think
1. Taipei 101, the ugliest skyscraper in the world.
I somewhat agree with you. OVERRATED!!!
-Corey- January 21st, 2006, 04:55 AM In my opinion Id say Sears Tower and Taipei 101
fahed January 21st, 2006, 05:44 AM If I am allowed to vote for the one most overrated building only, then I would say ESB. Second to ESB comes Taipei 101. Sears Tower and the WTC are overrated too, but they are not ugly (not gorgeous either).
I don't think that Burj Dubai or any building that is under the construction stage is eligible of being overrated, simply because they are not done yet.
To answer to the thread title, in my own opinion: every project in Dubai... ;)
...because they are in Dubai they have this instant cache, but really... most of them are pretty normal ;) Same materials and all
I don't know what you're talking about, but the thread is about buildings and not "projects". And believe me, the ugly buildings in Dubai that are actually completed are "not" recognized as beautiful structures, therefore they can’t be overrated. Mention what buildings are in your mind and don’t swing around the topic.
People have different tastes and I respect that. Burj Al Arab might be the most overrated to some of you, but I think it is the most beautiful tall structure in the world. Not just its unique appearance, but its location, surroundings and its interiors. BAA at night is something I can't stop staring at - outstanding.
Clashman January 21st, 2006, 06:30 AM In my opinion, if you had built Petronas towers in New York City instead of the WTC, they would have looked just as imposing, and they wouldn't have been big ugly boxes. That, to me, tells me which of the two is most overrated.
gronier January 21st, 2006, 06:35 AM Empire State
Tuscani01 January 21st, 2006, 06:38 AM CN Tower - Its only a tourist trap.
Sinful Moon Octopus January 21st, 2006, 10:06 AM Just to let you know, this is a box:
http://www.removalboxes.co.uk/images/pic_extrastrongbox.jpg
This is a work of art:
http://www.wfu.edu/~marleyps/wtc.jpg
Overrated:
1. Petronas Towers.
2. Burj al Arab.
3. One Liberty Place.
4. Chicago Tribune Tower.
5. Empire State Building (Probably not by fourmers though).
Underrated:
1. WTC!
2. Bank of China (Impossible to overrate :) ).
Hecago January 21st, 2006, 04:54 PM This is a work of art:
http://www.wfu.edu/~marleyps/wtc.jpg
And so is this
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2c/Nathan-Hale-Statue-Tribune-tower.png
http://www.december.com/places/chi/images/tribdet.jpg
http://www.brynmawr.edu/Acads/Cities/imgb/imgb3/163d.jpg
Overrated? Pfff.
Darth Shemp January 21st, 2006, 05:30 PM Ryugyong Hotel
MoreOrLess January 21st, 2006, 05:45 PM The Sears Tower for me aswell, the design doesnt really do anything speical and unlike the old WTC's it doesnt have the simplistic form to amplfy its height.
Javier January 21st, 2006, 05:45 PM One of the most overrated buildings was the swiss re bldg. in London UK, two years ago...
XCRunner January 21st, 2006, 10:48 PM WTC
Petronas
Taipei 101
We should have an underrated thread too, unless it's already been done. Has it?
XCRunner January 21st, 2006, 10:55 PM BOC in Hong Kong.
WHAT???!!!
SkyLerm January 24th, 2006, 05:13 PM In my opinion: Empire State and the WTC.
GlobalJoe January 24th, 2006, 05:47 PM One of the most overrated buildings was the swiss re bldg. in London UK, two years ago...
I Agree IMO it looks like a big tacky fabergé egg, and before any of the british forumers jumps on me saying how great and innovative its design is and how it has revolutionised London skyline and starts numbering all the awards it has won I want to make clear this is my PERSONAL and subjetive opinion .
Quickdraw January 24th, 2006, 06:00 PM lemme ask u guys something? If the twin towers were so overated why are countries around the world now mimicking what new york did with the "twin tower" thing...the twin towers were beautiful in real life too, just gotta see them from up close thats it..they really were beautiful
Well Chicago invented the steel skyscraper, are you all mimicking us? And yes, WTC was nothing special. Its one of the only buildings to look better on Sim City than it does real life.
AltinD January 24th, 2006, 06:01 PM Definitelly ESB. I even now have dificulties to identify that tower and hardly anyone knows that outside of USA.
At least WTC were an icon for the Manhatam skyline and NYC.
sharpie20 January 25th, 2006, 12:38 AM I don't think that the Empire State building is overrated at all, it's been the top 10 tallest building for the last 75+ years now, it's an amazing engineering feat to have completed huge building during that time, and especially during america's depression
Tazmaniadevil January 27th, 2006, 01:53 AM I was going to comment on those who called the ESB overrated, but it would be impossible to debate anyone who holds that opinion. It's just too ridiculous.
The ESB defined skysraper 50 years before any other country even had a real skyscraper. It can't be overrated if it had no competition for 50 years.
And I doubt if any other scraper in the world is as famous. And I'm talking about people who know nothing about skyscrapers. Not those who belong to these forums.
eweezerinc January 27th, 2006, 02:19 AM Well Chicago invented the steel skyscraper, are you all mimicking us? And yes, WTC was nothing special. Its one of the only buildings to look better on Sim City than it does real life.
I personally have never been very taken my BoC in photos, but is one of my favorites in Simcity3000. :tongue2:
2IFC. It has teeth on top. Like a monster. UGlY. And slightly disturbing. From affar, when you can't tell there are teeth, looks nice, but I know the truth. and its a big fat turn off.
godblessbotox January 27th, 2006, 02:38 AM Burj al Arab...
underrated, PPG Place, pittsburgh pa
http://www.glna.org/pennsylvania/images/pn01.jpg
Skybean January 27th, 2006, 02:42 AM If you look at the Bank of China.. it's not easy to draw, let alone build. The sheer craziness of it's dimensions alone should merit it as one of the greatest skyscrapers of all time. Add in the fact that it's one of the tallest buildings in the world and you have something very special.
Underrated: Scotia Plaza / Commerce Court West / AIG
Bitxofo January 27th, 2006, 04:29 AM Taipei 101...
:runaway:
Mr.Skyscraper August 23rd, 2006, 03:22 AM Taipei 101 and the Petronas are extremely overrated!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh by the way, the Sears and the Tribune Tower are not overrated. In fact, I think they deserve more recognition considering the Sears was the tallest building for more than 20 years and the Tribune Tower is just one of the most beautiful structures ever created by man.
alsen August 23rd, 2006, 06:38 AM the Petronas is not overrated.
Very Controversial August 23rd, 2006, 07:03 AM That cucumber shaped building in London.
MexAmericanMoose August 23rd, 2006, 07:06 AM That cucumber shaped building in London.
yup...it looks so "eggish"
TallBox August 24th, 2006, 03:57 AM I saw Petronas in the flesh a few weeks ago, and they are definitely NOT overrated!
zee August 24th, 2006, 04:38 AM i think the sears tower is overrated
SkyscraperJunky August 24th, 2006, 04:47 AM It held a title of world's tallest for more than 20 years. It's defintely not overrated.
Rachmaninov September 1st, 2006, 07:10 PM 1. Taipei 101
2. NY WTC
3. London Gherkin
4. Jinmao
Actually I don't think that Sears or Petronas are overrated. Sears was the true skyscraper, while I like Cesar Pelli's design of the Petronas.
nygirl September 1st, 2006, 07:47 PM Ny world trade overrated?^ You should check the most recognizable buildings thread... btw they don't exist anymore. There's a good reason they can easily slip into a topic of discussion. Also they were the first twins over 1,000 ft. almost 30 years before the petronas and were iconic for the nation and the city of ny.
LSyd September 1st, 2006, 07:56 PM 2IFC. oooh, a taller 1IFC. a gorgeous building, but not as much as it's cracked up to be.
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Rachmaninov September 1st, 2006, 08:06 PM WTC to me looks just like two huge boxes and nothing architecturally interesting enough so I'll say it's overrated.
2IFC is a bit overrated too yeah...
Bo Peep September 1st, 2006, 10:02 PM ABSOLUTELY Eureka. gaaahhh
Daniil N. September 1st, 2006, 10:42 PM BURJ DUBAI!!
seems like giant scary sand castle...most overrated and worst skyper ever...:wtf::wtf::wtf:
LAX 777 September 1st, 2006, 11:24 PM Burj Al Arab, Dubai
I just don't get it.
Liam-Manchester September 1st, 2006, 11:28 PM The Sears Tower in my opinion.
Gherkin September 1st, 2006, 11:34 PM Empire State Building? It's amazing how many people still think this is the world's tallest building, and picture this building when they think of a skyscraper. Don't get me wrong, I fully understand the history behind it and I love the old construction photos... but the building isn't that special to look at. It would never be built nowadays.
Dallas star September 2nd, 2006, 03:18 AM Empire state UGH its just a huge concrete slab with a hidous antenna.
Giorgio September 2nd, 2006, 04:06 AM Sears
Dallas star September 2nd, 2006, 04:08 AM Now way man
kashyap3 September 2nd, 2006, 04:09 AM Burj Dubai and Burj al Arab...
what a waste of money
godblessbotox September 2nd, 2006, 04:09 AM Burj Al Arab, Dubai
I just don't get it.
agreed
Marcanadian September 2nd, 2006, 04:17 AM ']Sears
I agree.
Most overrated IMO.
1. Rialto Towers
2. Sears Tower
3. Eureka
4. Torre Mayor
Most overrated future building? Fordham Spire.
Most underrated
1. Palace of Culture and Science
2. CITIC Plaza
3. Canada Trust Tower
4. Central Plaza
MexAmericanMoose September 2nd, 2006, 07:17 AM 1. Swiss-Re, i think that is what it is called
2. Petronas Towers
3. Fountain Place
4. Penzoil Place
Liam-Manchester September 3rd, 2006, 03:37 AM 1. Swiss-Re, i think that is what it is called
2. Petronas Towers
3. Fountain Place
4. Penzoil Place
The Petronas Towers are overrated and yet the Sears Tower is not? Architecturally they're far more impressive than Sears.
Very Controversial September 3rd, 2006, 05:09 PM People tend to like buildings in their countries.
Very Controversial September 3rd, 2006, 05:10 PM People tend to like buildings in their countries, so they wont say that the buildings in their country are overrated.
Rachmaninov September 3rd, 2006, 06:44 PM ^^ I thought I just said IFC was overrated :P
Erebus555 September 3rd, 2006, 07:10 PM The gherkin is no way overrated. The energy saving methods are brilliant and only a handful of buildings of a similar size create such an eco-friendly impact as it. I can only think of two off the top of my head and one was designed by the gherkin's architect - Commerzbank Tower in Frankfurt. The other tower being Conde Nast Building in NY Times Square.
If you ask me, the Flatiron is overated. That thing was never even the tallest in the world and is only famous because of how thin it is. That is no engineering feat at all apart from being one of the first buildings to use a steel skeleton.
Marcanadian September 3rd, 2006, 09:10 PM People tend to like buildings in their countries, so they wont say that the buildings in their country are overrated.
I can tell you one building that is approved that I think is overrated in my city.
The Four Seasons Hotel.
http://www.toronto.ca/planning/images/4s_dusk_lg.jpg
Erebus555 September 3rd, 2006, 10:56 PM ^^That looks great if you ask me. Just make sure that those bits of glass sticking from the top dont whistle in the wind. People from Manchester will know what I'm talking about for sure.
chinatown September 4th, 2006, 03:55 AM the petronas is the most overrated. to me they'r nothin special.
chinatown September 4th, 2006, 03:56 AM Burj Dubai and Burj al Arab...
what a waste of money
same here.
Taller, Better September 4th, 2006, 04:20 AM ^^That looks great if you ask me. Just make sure that those bits of glass sticking from the top dont whistle in the wind. People from Manchester will know what I'm talking about for sure.
It only becomes a problem if you are filming Coronation Street episodes outdoors on Monday afternoons! ;)
Anymodal September 4th, 2006, 06:35 AM Sears tower bores the daylights out of me.
I also have a hard time thinking how swiss-re is overrated, it was an original concept and the design is timeless and tasteful IMO.
LosAngelesMetroBoy September 7th, 2006, 05:39 AM overrated
1 capitol records building (only in LA i think)
2. Anything built in dubai (only building cuz they wanna buy some balls)
3. im gonna get flamed to hell but Federation Tower, i just dont get the whole design
4. Petronas (saw them up close, my eyes got sunburnt from the glare)
5. John Hancock tower
6. Sears tower (i dont like black buildings)
Underrated
1. Reichstag (beatiful inside and out)
2. Rockefeller Center
3. Library Tower (shaped like petronas without the glare and that wiered round thing)
Taller, Better September 7th, 2006, 05:47 AM [QUOTE=LosAngelesMetroBoy]overrated
1 capitol records building (only in LA i think)
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You mean the old round one in Hollywood? I have such fond memories seeing it when I was young and thinking it was pretty cool! LOL!
ReddAlert September 7th, 2006, 06:16 AM I dont know how anyone can say the Twin Towers were not impessive. They impressed the hell out of me and I never saw them in person. The sheer size of something so plain looking is incredible. And as a matter of fact, the building isnt plain up close. And photos of them at night are simply spectacular. I would even say they looked the absolute best at night for a skyscraper. They didnt need all kinds of neon lighting.
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5983/asasasabs3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Jules September 7th, 2006, 06:18 AM Man not much love for Sears or WTC here.
Most overrated future building? Fordham Spire.
Do you realize how stupid that sounds? Most overrated future building that hasn't been built yet but hey it's gonna suck no matter what so let's dub it overrated. :) :) :) :) :)
LosAngelesMetroBoy September 7th, 2006, 07:07 AM [QUOTE=LosAngelesMetroBoy]overrated
1 capitol records building (only in LA i think)
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You mean the old round one in Hollywood? I have such fond memories seeing it when I was young and thinking it was pretty cool! LOL!
ever try driving past it in the summer. asian tourists dont look out for cars in the street when they try to snap a pic of it. Its anoying as fuck. so thats prolly why i think its overrated
hngcm September 7th, 2006, 07:36 AM [QUOTE=Taller, Better]
ever try driving past it in the summer. asian tourists dont look out for cars in the street when they try to snap a pic of it. Its anoying as fuck. so thats prolly why i think its overrated
LOL
I was doing that when I drove through hollywood blvd like two weeks ago with my sister.
I'm Mexican though.
Marcanadian September 7th, 2006, 06:45 PM Man not much love for Sears or WTC here.
Do you realize how stupid that sounds? Most overrated future building that hasn't been built yet but hey it's gonna suck no matter what so let's dub it overrated. :) :) :) :) :)
It's just my opinion. It may look better when it's built but for now it looks like a giant screw.
Very Controversial September 11th, 2006, 09:07 PM I think Los Arcos de Bosques in Mexico City is also overrated. The hole in the middle is impressive, but the building is too plain.
Audiomuse September 11th, 2006, 09:31 PM North America--Transamerica Pyramid San Fransisco
Europe--LBT (London Bridge Tower) London
Middle East--Al Burj Tower
Asia--Bank of China Building Hong Kong
Those are the ones I can think of now that I'm not too fond of.
Zissou September 11th, 2006, 10:44 PM For the sake of this discussion I will go with the WTC. I actually really like the building and its architect, Yamasaki, but the design has been glorified big time after September 11. I disagree with people who say its boring and just a box. Yamasaki payed great attention to detail and if you were to see a picture of the building up close you could begin to appreciate the design a bit more.
This is an interest debate though. To me an overrated building is one that has been done before but is recieving a lot of accolades. Kind of like every new Gehry building. Bilbao deserves the recognition, but a lot of people act as if every new Gehry design is fantastic and "new".
Thats why I can appreciate buildings like Sear's and Seagrams as well as the Tribune Tower and ESB. Seagrams itself is a fantastic building. It was groundbreaking and the materials used were of high quality. What I dont like is what it spawned, which is cheap knock-offs which are simply glass boxes where cheap materials are used and there isnt any attention to detail.
Sear's is more than just a tall black box as some describe it. Its construction was very innovative, "bundled tube", and is what allows it to be so tall. Throw in the set-backs at different levels and its a very well designed building. Sears is a great example of how engineering should be appreciated just as much as the design. Hancock falls under this as well.
I think some of you see ESB as being overrated simply because of how popular it is. It may not be as pleasing to the eye as Chrysler, which I happen to like a lot more, but it is still a great example of Art Deco and its a testament to the architect and engineers that after so many years it still remains one of the world's tallest and most recognizable buildings.
I did find it humorous though that someone pointed out that WTC is a piece of art, which I agree, and then mentioned the Tribune Tower as being overrated. TT is an amazing building and probably the best Gothic skyscraper in existence.
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