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hkia January 20th, 2006, 04:01 AM I saw this thread in the Japan Forum:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=298249
and I'm wondering if anyone has similiar statistics for Hong Kong?
Although it would be hard to define foreigners in Hong Kong, as a lot of people probably hold foreign passports while permanent residents.
daveo18 January 20th, 2006, 04:08 AM Its very hard to measure because there are lots of BBC, ABC etc living in Hong Kong that makes measuring the number of 'foreigners' quite difficult...
If you're talking about actual 'expats' (ie Westeners living and working in Hong Kong), the numbers are something like
50,000 British
30,000 Canadian
30,000 US
20,000 Australians
or something like that. Obviously these figures ignore other expats such as Indians, Nepalese, Philippino and Indonesians (all run into the tens of thousands), but this is the information I've heard about the Western population here.
hkskyline January 20th, 2006, 04:26 AM 2001 Population by Ethnicity
http://www.censtatd.gov.hk/hong_kong_statistics/statistical_tables/index.jsp
Chinese - 6 364 439 - 94.9%
Filipino - 142 556 - 2.1%
Indonesian - 50 494 - 0.8%
British - 18 909 - 0.3%
Indian - 18 543 - 0.3%
Thai - 14 342 - 0.2%
Japanese - 14 180 - 0.2%
Nepalese - 12 564 - 0.2%
Pakistani - 11 017 - 0.2%
Others - 61 345 - 0.9%
Total - 6 708 389 - 100.0%
Manila-X January 20th, 2006, 04:35 AM Filipino's still the largest minority group!
But how about Chinese? Because that can split as well like Chinese who are born and raised in HK, Chinese from the mainland, Taiwan or those coming from other countries.
hkia January 20th, 2006, 04:44 AM If I'm going to take a guess, I'd say 30%-40% were born in mainland.
Manila-X January 20th, 2006, 06:36 AM Hard to tell but I partly represent the 2.1% :D
hkskyline January 20th, 2006, 06:37 AM I don't think the expatriate population is included in the Census numbers. I may be wrong though.
Manila-X January 20th, 2006, 06:42 AM I don't think the expatriate population is included in the Census numbers. I may be wrong though.
I think they do because most westeners in HK are expats!
Skyscrapercitizen January 20th, 2006, 10:49 AM So about 98% is asian!? That is the big difference between the Asian Metropolis and the metropolises in the west (London and NYC), where a mix of cultures are living bringing a cosmopolitian atmosphere.
Hong Kong (and Tokyo also) should try to bring in more western people. I would like to be the first one. ;)
Manila-X January 20th, 2006, 11:04 AM So about 98% is asian!? That is the big difference between the Asian Metropolis and the metropolises in the west (London and NYC), where a mix of cultures are living bringing a cosmopolitian atmosphere.
Hong Kong (and Tokyo also) should try to bring in more western people. I would like to be the first one. ;)
There's already alot of Westerners in HK. You'll see alot of them walk the city streets whether you're in Central or Tsim Sha Tsui!
But honestly, I like HK's diversity already! HK has the potential to become one of the most cosmopolitan cities in Asia!
Skyscrapercitizen January 20th, 2006, 11:47 PM ^^
Sure I saw during my visit in 2004, but it's nothing compared to London or NYC. Language is an Isseu I think...
hkskyline January 21st, 2006, 02:30 AM Expatriates are normally not included in official census counts since they are not citizens.
Arvo January 21st, 2006, 03:14 AM There're less than 20000 indians and nepalese in hong kong?that's strange...especially when you pass through Tsim Sha Tsui and Jordan.And filipinos are included in the census but not other expats?
Pho-sure January 21st, 2006, 03:19 AM Why so many Nepalis are in HK?
hkia January 21st, 2006, 04:34 AM They were in the British army unit that was stationed in HK.
Manila-X January 23rd, 2006, 04:45 AM Why so many Nepalis are in HK?
Most of the Nepalese in HK were former Gurkhas who (with there families) settled in the territory when the British left. Most of them work as security guards for several commercial establishments.
Actually I had alot of Nepalese school mates back in high-school and almost had a Nepalese girlfriend :D
hkskyline but some expats hold a HK Identity Card. How about Filipinos? Most of them are working in HK under contract with their employers.
Tim, London and NYC are western cities so cosmopolitan level there is different. You don't get much western immigration in Asia especially countries like Japan but you still have an expat community!
hkskyline January 23rd, 2006, 04:48 AM hkskyline but some expats hold a HK Identity Card. How about Filipinos? Most of them are working in HK under contract with their employers.
You need to confirm whether they have residency first before concluding whether they're expatriates or actual HK citizens. If they are foreign-born and have lived in Hong Kong for 7 years consecutively, then they would be citizens, have the 3 stars on their ID card, and be counted in a census. Just because they look foreign doesn't mean they can't hold a HKID card and claim citizenship.
Manila-X January 23rd, 2006, 05:01 AM You need to confirm whether they have residency first before concluding whether they're expatriates or actual HK citizens. If they are foreign-born and have lived in Hong Kong for 7 years consecutively, then they would be citizens, have the 3 stars on their ID card, and be counted in a census. Just because they look foreign doesn't mean they can't hold a HKID card and claim citizenship.
Ok. But I'm still curious about the cencus on Filipinos in HK. Because I'm thinking that 2.1 % includes amahs or overseas contract workers. Unless that 142,556 are Filipinos either born in HK or have lived in HK for several years :)
hkskyline January 23rd, 2006, 06:02 AM Ok. But I'm still curious about the cencus on Filipinos in HK. Because I'm thinking that 2.1 % includes amahs or overseas contract workers. Unless that 142,556 are Filipinos either born in HK or have lived in HK for several years :)
A government document from the health department indicated that domestic helpers are included in the population counts.
Manila-X January 23rd, 2006, 06:28 AM A government document from the health department indicated that domestic helpers are included in the population counts.
Oh, well I still find it a bit confusing. Because I look at expats and domestic helpers the same since both groups live in Hong Kong temporarily. Anyway, it's not a big issue so it's no problem!
Anyway, even if I'm half Filipino, I got counted as one!
archnyer July 15th, 2010, 10:57 AM Do they have gated communities in Hong Kong? I read this about the capitol having them.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100714/ap_on_re_as/as_china_fenced_in;_ylt=AlrEEJZnSOM.E.t_FHVDoHVzfNdF
hkskyline July 15th, 2010, 05:00 PM Besides the typical security personnel, no gates are 'sealed' off at night. We do enjoy far more freedoms in Hong Kong.
EricIsHim July 17th, 2010, 06:32 PM The "gated community" term usually refers to some kind of upscale private development, so the riches can segregate from rest of the world and "enjoy" their isolated environment without any outsider encroachment.
The story in Beijing isn't quite a "gated community," but more like a government sealing off village and communities to fight against crime, illegal immigrants, poverty, and other social problems.
Hong Kong do have numbers of the upscale "gated communities" for the rich, but not the one as described in Beijing in the Yahoo article.
hkskyline July 17th, 2010, 06:45 PM Well, almost every housing estate, even the public ones, has gated security these days. The level of enforcement differs though, but usually for the private ones, ID card registration is needed.
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