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Celtic FC

44x League:
1893, 1894, 1896, 1898, 1905,
1906, 1907, 1908, 1909, 1910,
1914, 1915, 1916, 1917, 1919,
1922, 1926, 1936, 1938, 1954,
1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970,
1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1977,
1979, 1981, 1982, 1986, 1988,
1998, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2006,
2007, 2008, 2012, 2013

35x Cup: (record)
1892, 1899, 1900, 1904, 1907,
1908, 1911, 1912, 1914, 1923,
1925, 1927, 1931, 1933, 1937,
1951, 1954, 1965, 1967, 1969,
1971, 1972, 1974, 1975, 1977,
1980, 1985, 1988, 1989, 1995,
2001, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2011

14x League Cup:
1957, 1958, 1966, 1967, 1968,
1969, 1970, 1975, 1983, 1998,
2000, 2001, 2006, 2009

1x UEFA Champions League:
1967




Since that idiot wasted the other thread I thought I would start another thread on Celtic Park in Glasgow. It holds approximately 60,400 and at the minute is the second largest club stadium in Britain.

Main exterior

http://tinypic.com/m8pob5.jpg

View from the tunnel

http://tinypic.com/m8pq3p.jpg

North Stand

http://tinypic.com/m8pqgw.jpg

Junction of Jock Stein/North Stand

http://tinypic.com/m8pqtj.jpg

South/Jock Stein Stand

http://tinypic.com/m8prbn.jpg

Jock Stein Stand

http://tinypic.com/m8prom.jpg

Lisbon Lions/South Stand

http://tinypic.com/m8prw5.jpg

Lisbon Lions Stand:

http://tinypic.com/m8px1z.jpg


Aerial View

http://tinypic.com/m8pu0g.jpg

Much better with fans in though, compare...

http://tinypic.com/m8pull.jpg

To the same view, different time...

http://tinypic.com/m8pv15.jpg

Different Views

http://tinypic.com/m8pxkm.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m8yxvn.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m8yy6f.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m8yyif.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m8yyp2.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m8yz3p.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m8yzo5.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m8z14w.jpg

http://tinypic.com/m8z1iw.jpg

Great stadium, meant to one of the best for atmosphere in the country. Will the main stand be rebuilt in the future to match the rest of the stadium?

The Rangers/Celtic thread was going fine until you and your moronic buddies turned up. The thread was going for over 6 months, then 3 days after you and your 'celtic minded' moronic chums turned up - guess what? - it got shut down. So there is the proof that it was idiotic celtic morons that got the thread closed.

Here is some more pics of the San Giro -

http://img176.echo.cx/img176/5897/img07755mo6nt.jpg

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http://img146.echo.cx/img146/2670/aussen221sb.jpg

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http://img227.echo.cx/img227/6513/aussen166bw.jpg

http://img146.echo.cx/img146/943/aussen155aa.jpg

http://img193.echo.cx/img193/9581/4g6sl04zh.jpg

http://img203.echo.cx/img203/830/4g6sm05wc.jpg

http://img91.echo.cx/img91/4057/aussen265xo.jpg

http://img204.echo.cx/img204/7461/untitl546ed143ys.jpg

http://img64.echo.cx/img64/948/untitl546ed27ck.jpg

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http://img193.echo.cx/img193/1885/12048534uu.jpg

http://img159.echo.cx/img159/6397/untitl546ed31ek.jpg

http://img204.echo.cx/img204/2341/untitl546ed161oi.jpg

http://img64.echo.cx/img64/8767/untitl546ed55fp.jpg

http://img64.echo.cx/img64/5632/links052jl.jpg

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http://img39.echo.cx/img39/8078/innen051la.jpg

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http://img259.echo.cx/img259/5493/innen011lz.jpg

http://img176.echo.cx/img176/905/innen072mh.jpg

Heres a little video for an example how the atmosphere can be ;)

http://usp.stpaulifans.de/barca_ynwa.wmv

There was talk a while back of building on top of the main stand to complete the 'bowl' but it would apparently be difficult because the facade is protected from major work as it is basically untouched since the early 20th centry The basic shape has remained the same since then...

Main Stand 20s/30s

http://tinypic.com/m8zgx2.jpg

Exterior 20s/30s

http://tinypic.com/m8zhjl.jpg

Exterior Again

http://tinypic.com/m8zhu0.jpg

In saying that if the demand was there and it became cost effective it would definitely happen, taking the capacity to circa 75,000

John Carpenter, disappointing but not suprising that a hun would turn up to try and wreck another thread, if you showed both grounds in equal light there would have been no problem, the surrounding area of the ground is totally irrelevant by the way. Here is another picture of the ground you might enjoy though

http://tinypic.com/m8zl0x.jpg

We Welcome The Chase ;)

17+

There was talk a while back of building on top of the main stand to complete the 'bowl' but it would apparently be difficult because the facade is protected from major work as it is basically untouched since the early 20th centry The basic shape has remained the same since then...


Basically untouched!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


It has been rebulit about 5 times, most recently in the early 80's and now looks like an office block. It ain't listed, as shite buildings don't get listed. What an absolutely pathetic main stand!!! These celtic fans don't half talk some shite!! Their stadium cost £30 million. £30 million for 60000 seats. It must be the cheapest stadium in the world per seat. A few years ago there was a windy day in Glasagow and half the roof blew off. The game was prosponed and when it was played the next week, the away fans turned up wearing hard hats!!!

The stadium is full of exposed pipes and wiring! Cheap rubbish for cheap people!! It really is a complete dump!!

Basically untouched!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


It was rebulit in the early 80's and now looks like an office block. It ain't listed, as shite buildings don't get listed. What an absolutely pathetic main stand!!! These celtic fans don't half talk some shite!! Their stadium cost £30 million. £30 million for 60000 seats. It must be the cheapest stadium in the world per seat. A few years ago there was a windy day in Glasagow and half the roof blew off. The game was prosponed and when it was played the next week, the away fans turned up wearing hard hats!!!

The stadium is full of exposed pipes and wiring! Cheap rubbish for cheap people!! It really is a complete dump!!

Huns and lies eh...

It wasn't rebuilt I can assure you, look at the picture below hun tell me what you see, old Celtic Park in the 80s and the main stand is the same shape

http://tinypic.com/m8zp08.jpg

The facade was just changed.

As for the lie about "Half the roof blowing off". What actually happened is that a small piece of guttering came loose, if thats "half the roof" then you are indeed a liar. Of course it will be a dump in you're opinion, you're support is with a peripheral football team in Scotland but I would appreciate it if you would stick to the facts, indicentally about our stadium being "cheap" that stinks of a remarkably short memory considering what has happened in the not too distant past in other stadiums in Glasgow.

Also our stadium didn't "Cost £30m". The REbuild did. And I can assure you the main building of Celtic Park is a listed building.

These celtic fans don't half talk some shite!! Their stadium cost £30 million. £30 million for 60000 seats. It must be the cheapest stadium in the world per seat.

Sounds great value to me.

Are you sure about the price? Man U's expansion (extra 8,000 seats) will run to more than that.

Sounds great value to me.

Are you sure about the price? Man U's expansion (extra 8,000 seats) will run to more than that.

It was closer to £40m, still good value I reckon. What he is failing to mention though is that it wasn't a completely new build only a rebuild of most of the stadium and a modernisation of the main stand.

John Carpenter, disappointing but not suprising that a hun would turn up to try and wreck another thread, if you showed both grounds in equal light there would have been no problem, the surrounding area of the ground is totally irrelevant by the way. Here is another picture of the ground you might enjoy though


The Rangers/Celtic thread was going fine until you and your moronic buddies turned up. The thread was going for over 6 months, then 3 days after you and your 'celtic minded' moronic chums turned up - guess what? - it got shut down. So there is the proof that it was idiotic celtic morons that got the thread closed.

Are you thick or something?? Can you not understand simple logic? Away and sell some drugs ya filthy taig. You will always be a second class citizen and you know it!!

Does it still hurt taig? 51 leagues and countin -

http://media.putfile.com/Rangers-Champions-2005

http://media.putfile.com/gone2

Sounds great value to me.

Are you sure about the price? Man U's expansion (extra 8,000 seats) will run to more than that.

Yup - £31 million. Cheap shite. You should visit it, it's a dump. Big but crap. My mate works for Barr construction and he said he was shocked it got a safety certificate as so many corners were cut. Just visit it and you will see how cheap it is.

[QUOTE=Magic_Zurawski]John Carpenter, disappointing but not suprising that a hun would turn up to try and wreck another thread, if you showed both grounds in equal light there would have been no problem, the surrounding area of the ground is totally irrelevant by the way. Here is another picture of the ground you might enjoy though[QUOTE]


The Rangers/Celtic thread was going fine until you and your moronic buddies turned up. The thread was going for over 6 months, then 3 days after you and your 'celtic minded' moronic chums turned up - guess what? - it got shut down. So there is the proof that it was idiotic celtic morons that got the thread closed.

Are you thick or something?? Can you not understand simple logic? Away and sell some drugs ya filthy taig. You will always be a second class citizen and you know it!!

Does it still hurt taig? 51 leagues and countin -

http://media.putfile.com/Rangers-Champions-2005

http://media.putfile.com/gone2

"Taig" I'm suprised it took you 3 posts to bring up religion, so 'dignified' of you. To neutral observers sadly this is what we have to live with in Scotland I started an innocent thread about a football stadium, didn't even mentioin anything else and this idiot comes on and starts with religious crap and tells me to go and sell some drugs. I'm just glad you are being publically shown up for what you are, vermin.

"Rangers FC are a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace, Scotland would be better off without them and their moronic fans"

Have to agree with that :)

Taig - what do you think of this atmosphere? Yes, it still hurts doesn't it!!

http://media.putfile.com/final-minute/640

Yup - £31 million. Cheap shite. You should visit it, it's a dump. Big but crap. My mate works for Barr construction and he said he was shocked it got a safety certificate as so many corners were cut. Just visit it and you will see how cheap it is.

Well you're mate can't be a very good judge as I can't remember too many "Celtic Park disasters". And that is not a dig at the victims of a terrible accident by the way but showing you up for the hypocritical idiot you are. Sadly alot of people died as a result of you're stadium not being up to standard so how you can criticise our safety record is astonishing

Taig - what do you think of this atmosphere? Yes, it still hurts doesn't it!!

http://media.putfile.com/final-minute/640

http://tinypic.com/m90jut.gif ;)

Huns and lies eh...

It wasn't rebuilt I can assure you, look at the picture below hun tell me what you see, old Celtic Park in the 80s and the main stand is the same shape

http://tinypic.com/m8zp08.jpg

The facade was just changed.

As for the lie about "Half the roof blowing off". What actually happened is that a small piece of guttering came loose, if thats "half the roof" then you are indeed a liar. Of course it will be a dump in you're opinion, you're support is with a peripheral football team in Scotland but I would appreciate it if you would stick to the facts, indicentally about our stadium being "cheap" that stinks of a remarkably short memory considering what has happened in the not too distant past in other stadiums in Glasgow.

Also our stadium didn't "Cost £30m". The REbuild did. And I can assure you the main building of Celtic Park is a listed building.

are you a retard or something? I said it was last rebuilt in the early 80's!! You really are thick! Does it look a 100 years old? No, it looks like a 70's office block!

are you a retard or something? I said it was last rebuilt in the early 80's!! You really are thick! Does it look a 100 years old? No, it looks like a 70's office block!

Well, look at the other pictures then from the nineteen twenties. I didn't think you would need directed to every individual picture, must be the education I suppose ;)

Well you're mate can't be a very good judge as I can't remember too many "Celtic Park disasters". And that is not a dig at the victims of a terrible accident by the way but showing you up for the hypocritical idiot you are. Sadly alot of people died as a result of you're stadium not being up to standard so how you can criticise our safety record is astonishing

You filthy fenian bastard. Ibrox was an accident, all grounds were like that back then. Overcrowded and unsafe. Ibrox was no more unsafe than any other Scottish stadium. If you said that to my face you would get your throat cut!!

Well, look at the other pictures then from the nineteen twenties. I didn't think you would need directed to every individual picture, must be the education I suppose ;)

Yes, they look nothing like the present stand. Over the lasat 80 years it has had about 5 rebuilds, and it still looks shite after each one.

[QUOTE=John_Carpenter][QUOTE=Magic_Zurawski]John Carpenter, disappointing but not suprising that a hun would turn up to try and wreck another thread, if you showed both grounds in equal light there would have been no problem, the surrounding area of the ground is totally irrelevant by the way. Here is another picture of the ground you might enjoy though

"Taig" I'm suprised it took you 3 posts to bring up religion, so 'dignified' of you. To neutral observers sadly this is what we have to live with in Scotland I started an innocent thread about a football stadium, didn't even mentioin anything else and this idiot comes on and starts with religious crap and tells me to go and sell some drugs. I'm just glad you are being publically shown up for what you are, vermin.

"Rangers FC are a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace, Scotland would be better off without them and their moronic fans"

Have to agree with that :)

Tell me taig, which part of this do you not understand?

"The Rangers/Celtic thread was going fine until you and your moronic buddies turned up. The thread was going for over 6 months, then 3 days after you and your 'celtic minded' moronic chums turned up - guess what? - it got shut down. So there is the proof that it was idiotic celtic morons that got the thread closed."


Ya dirty filthy piece of shit!!

If you said that to my face you would get your throat cut!!

Typical hun response. Yes alot of stadiums were unsafe but the fact is people died as a result of Ibrox being unsafe, not Celtic Park so I don't understand how you can criticise Celtic Park for being unsafe.

I'm off, the smell of this piece of human garbage is making me sick. Remember taig - NO SURRENDER.

51 Leagues and countin

I'm off, the smell of this piece of human garbage is making me sick. Remember taig - NO SURRENDER.

51 Leagues and countin

I'm off anol, nice to see they are keeping up the standards in the 'other' schools. Start an Ibrox thread by the way I have plenty of pictures for you to put on there. Just a shame you had to ruin another thread but wrecking is what huns do best as the people of Barcelona know only too well.

17 and counting :)

Is this how all Old Firm threads end?

A new thread runined after only 3 replys.
:(

Celtic Park looks like a very nice stadium but as already mentioned, the main stand needs to be rebuilt. I've seen Celtic play a few times and the atmosphere in the stadium is great for Champions League matches.

John_Carpenter - Stop ruining a perfectly good thread. I don't see how trying to hurt the feelings of 1 Celtic fan is doing you any favours on this forum.

I'm off, the smell of this piece of human garbage is making me sick. Remember taig - NO SURRENDER.

51 Leagues and countin
That is sectarian abuse. Ban him now, moderators.

Shocking.


Me and Bubomb have already gone through all this. And I'm sure he will agree that there are no winners in this argument.

Take your sectarian words elsewhere, John Carpenter.


I'm sick and tired of this abuse of Catholics in the Sports Arena section of skyscrapercity.com. Something has to be done about this.

Bubomb is equally to blame Boy David. He's been a wee inciteful shite on here, these two threads in particular.

Bunch of idiot old firm fanboy nonsense. My best mate's a Rangers fan and he can't stand all this shit and thanks to clueing me in, I have some grasp of how all this shit goes. The vocal Celtic and Rangers fans on this sub forum are just as bad as each other. Ban the lot of them.

Bubomb is equally to blame Boy David. He's been a wee inciteful shite on here, these two threads in particular.

Bunch of idiot old firm fanboy nonsense. My best mate's a Rangers fan and he can't stand all this shit and thanks to clueing me in, I have some grasp of how all this shit goes. The vocal Celtic and Rangers fans on this sub forum are just as bad as each other. Ban the lot of them.
Indeed - you are quite right. It's incredible what petty squabbles can do for a country. Anyone reading this must still think that Scotland is in the Dark Ages.

I'm quite ashamed, but I just can't stand around and tolerate the terrible words being said on this forum like JohnCarpenter's.



But Fair Play to you for bringing this to the attention of the mods, mate - you've done us all a favour here.

Cheers :cheers:

It is indeed incredibly embarrassing for scotland. Its sadly what scottish sport is most famous for.
The way 2 sets of supporters will unashamedly hurl abuse at eachother along religious lines, happily using refrences to the painful irish conflict that everyone else is trying to overcome, is sickening.
The way it goes on quite openly paints a picture of scotland as a place where anyone is likely to be racially or religiously abused if they walk down a street, which I am sure is very unfair on scotland.

If any international sports forum is visited by a scot, he might well mention one of the teams and soon enough disgusting behaviour follows.
It leaves a terrible image of scotland.

Perhaps if Hearts emerged as a real force, there could be not only a more interesting league, but also a 3-team rivalry where abuse stuck to football.

About Celtic Park. The small main stand really shows just how big the place can become if its developed. Corners included it could mean pretty close to 80,000 by building just one stand. Surely something for Celtic to consider.

embarrassing stuff. close it, ban people, etc, etc.

shame really - there's an interesting discussion to be had here, but there's no point in pursuing it because it'll only get hijacked.

Good stadium althought main stand...

It holds approximately 60,400 and at the minute is the second largest club stadium in Britain.
I'm assuming the largest is Old Trafford?

I'm assuming the largest is Old Trafford?

Yeah, Old Trafford holds 68,000 at the moment. The new expansions will open for next season (possibly some sections later on this season) bringing it to 76,000.

The new Arsenal Stadium will hold 60,000 but it's hard to be exact until all the seats are bolted in so I suppose 59-61K is the range we'll be looking at.

Wembley will of course be a good deal larger but it's not a club stadium (neither is Twickenham with 82,000 seats in the near future)

"Cheap rubbish for cheap people!! It really is a complete dump!!"

Seems to be good view of the pitch from the stands at least ^^.


Here are some pics from GAIS vs Celtic (friendly) 2003. And remember everyone is a GAIS-fan deep down ;).

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/9798/gaisvsceltic03016bj.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4760/gaisvsceltic03028ad.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1179/gaisvsceltic03031kc.jpg

As the club is making a lot of progress now, hopefully we can meet again soon, but in a competitive match ;).

We are getting a new stadium in 2008-2009 btw. Much better then the current. Will look like this:

http://img500.imageshack.us/img500/1831/319912f10tg.jpg

Old one:

http://svt.se/content/1/c6/13/73/33/ullevi_250.jpg


More pics:

http://hem.passagen.se/jsbjsj/pics_gais.htm

Look at the newspaper: "GAIS - Celtic Rangers" Haha, its a newspaper called Göteborgsposten which clearly lacks footballknowledge :P.

I know there is sectarian idiots from both sides but it is sickening to see how it has mainly been inflamed by British nationalistic idiots like john carpenter. You may be proud to be British but the rest of Britain are ashamed of people like you. I'm at university where we have an ecumenical chapel where each denomination of chrnitianity has a place to worship. People respect each other's beliefs and help each other out. Catholics have as much right to be a proud part of Britain as Protestants and other faiths do, and vice-versa. Nobody is born a 2nd class citizen here anymore and no ignorant bigots rants will change that.

Hello lads. I’m a long time lurker, but I had to register to make some points here. I am an Aberdeen fan and I can tell you we are sick of the ‘Old Firm’. Both sides are as bad as each other, but a few things have to be cleared up. Celtic fans like to play the role of the ‘oppressed’, when in reality nothing could be further from the truth. In a previous thread, Magic_Zurawski called a Rangers fan a ‘hun’. This is just as bad as a Rangers fan calling a Celtic fan a ‘fenian’. Fenian does not mean a Catholic, just like ‘Hun’ does not mean a Protestant, but both names are insulting to both sets of fans and should not be used. Both names are banned from Scottish TV and Scottish Radio. Magic_Zurawski cannot complain about bigotry when he himself also uses these insulting terms to describe Rangers fans. ‘Fenian’ and ‘Hun’ are technically not bigoted, but this is irrelevant as both terms are highly insulting to Celtic and Rangers fans. Magic_Zurawski also has a go at the education standards at non-denominational schools in Scotland. As you can imagine, this is highly insulting to 90% of the Scottish population as 90% attend non religious non-denominational schools. Part of the problem with Celtic/Rangers fans is that that most Celtic fans go to Catholic schools and all Rangers fans go to non-religious non-denominational schools. As they don’t mix you end up with problems. It is basically educational apartheid.

In another thread, you also had a Celtic fan (Ghod7) using terrorists as his avatar, and another Celtic fan using the deaths of 66 Rangers fans (mostly young boys) and the death of a much loved Rangers player in a pathetic attempt to try and get one up on his teams rivals. If that isn't the actions of lowlife, then I don't know what is!! I am shocked that this site allows the use of the IRA as avatars and I have contacted the mods to have this user removed. If no action is taken then I will report this site to the relevant authorities. I hate to have to do this as I love the site, but IRA terrorists as avatars is grossly offensive to UK residents. We are talking about the mass murder of innocent men, women and children. We cannot have this on the site.

As for John_Carpenter, he is also a bigoted idiot and a thread ruiner just like Magic_Zurawski. Personally, I would ban all old firm fans from the forum.

Hello lads. I’m a long time lurker, but I had to register to make some points here. I am an Aberdeen fan and I can tell you we are sick of the ‘Old Firm’. Both sides are as bad as each other, but a few things have to be cleared up. Celtic fans like to play the role of the ‘oppressed’, when in reality nothing could be further from the truth. In a previous thread, Magic_Zurawski called a Rangers fan a ‘hun’. This is just as bad as a Rangers fan calling a Celtic fan a ‘fenian’. Fenian does not mean a Catholic, just like ‘Hun’ does not mean a Protestant, but both names are insulting to both sets of fans and should not be used. Both names are banned from Scottish TV and Scottish Radio. Magic_Zurawski cannot complain about bigotry when he himself also uses these insulting terms to describe Rangers fans. ‘Fenian’ and ‘Hun’ are technically not bigoted, but this is irrelevant as both terms are highly insulting to Celtic and Rangers fans. Magic_Zurawski also has a go at the education standards at non-denominational schools in Scotland. As you can imagine, this is highly insulting to 90% of the Scottish population as 90% attend non religious non-denominational schools. Part of the problem with Celtic/Rangers fans is that that most Celtic fans go to Catholic schools and all Rangers fans go to non-religious non-denominational schools. As they don’t mix you end up with problems. It is basically educational apartheid.

In another thread, you also had a Celtic fan (Ghod7) using terrorists as his avatar, and another Celtic fan using the deaths of 66 Rangers fans (mostly young boys) and the death of a much loved Rangers player in a pathetic attempt to try and get one up on his teams rivals. If that isn't the actions of lowlife, then I don't know what is!! I am shocked that this site allows the use of the IRA as avatars and I have contacted the mods to have this user removed. If no action is taken then I will report this site to the relevant authorities. I hate to have to do this as I love the site, but IRA terrorists as avatars is grossly offensive to UK residents. We are talking about the mass murder of innocent men, women and children. We cannot have this on the site.

As for John_Carpenter, he is also a bigoted idiot and a thread ruiner just like Magic_Zurawski. Personally, I would ban all old firm fans from the forum.


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I honestly can't understand the emotional baggage that a minority of Rangers and Celtic fans have. Luckily it is just a minority, but I wish it didn't exist.

I support Rangers; but my support has absoluting no relationship to religion; it's the last thing on my mind. As a kid, I choose Rangers cos I love the colour blue; plain and simple. But I lived with Celtic fans and we never had fights or resorted to sectarian name-calling. It's only a game after all!

Glasgow has three of the finest stadiums in the world; Parkhead, Hampden and Ibrox.

And if Glasgow wants to win the Commonwealth Games in 2014, we need to be united!

North beach, you have a few good points in your post but what you said about the problem is Celtic kids going to Catholic schools and Rangers fans going to non-religious schools and they both should be mixed is wrong. I went to a Catholic school where they teach respect for other religions and promote good moral values that help you to integrate with other members of society. It is also true that independent schools or those that don't receive much state help whether they be Catholic, Evangelical, or others acheive better results overall. Please don't suggest that religious schools are anything to do with the problem as it's far from. Parents will teach their kids either to be respectful and tolerant and allow them to grow up well-rounded or fill them with their own hateful, nasty pre-judices that badly affect them. There are plenty of thugs and hooligans that aren't affiliated with religion who give this country a bad name. It seems that religon is unfairly targeted and sweeping generalisations are made because of a minority. As is often the case.

North beach, you have a few good points in your points but what you said about the problem is Celtic kids going to Catholic schools and Rangers fans going to non-religious schools and they both should be mixed is wrong. I went to a Catholic school where they teach respect for other religions and promote good moral values that help you to integrate with other members of society. It is also true that independent schools or those that don't receive much state help whether they be Catholic, Evangelical, or others acheive better results overall. Please don't suggest that religious schools are anything to do with the problem as it's far from. Parents will teach their kids either to be respectful and tolerant and allow them to grow up well-rounded or fill them with their own hateful, nasty pre-judices that badly affect them. There are plenty of thugs and hooligans that aren't affiliated with religion who give this country a bad name. It seems that religon is unfairly targeted and sweeping generalisations are made because of a minority. As is often the case.

I'm not sure I'd agree that religion is unfairly targetted. The divide in the Old Firm is purely along religious lines. I'm not trying to suggest that the people involved in bigotry are great catholics or great protestants, but that is the underlying cause of the division.

I went to catholic schools and have to disagree that respect for other religions was taught. I'd say a certain amount of tolerance was taught but as far as the 'illegal occupation of Ireland' was taught I'd say we typically had very biased teachers. One, my geography teacher, would justify IRA bombings. In fact we had one female teacher that got fired for having a divorce so perhaps my school was more 'fervent' than most.

North beach, you have a few good points in your points but what you said about the problem is Celtic kids going to Catholic schools and Rangers fans going to non-religious schools and they both should be mixed is wrong. I went to a Catholic school where they teach respect for other religions and promote good moral values that help you to integrate with other members of society. It is also true that independent schools or those that don't receive much state help whether they be Catholic, Evangelical, or others acheive better results overall. Please don't suggest that religious schools are anything to do with the problem as it's far from. Parents will teach their kids either to be respectful and tolerant and allow them to grow up well-rounded or fill them with their own hateful, nasty pre-judices that badly affect them. There are plenty of thugs and hooligans that aren't affiliated with religion who give this country a bad name. It seems that religon is unfairly targeted and sweeping generalisations are made because of a minority. As is often the case.


You have obviously never attended a Catholic school in the West of Scotland. Catholic schools in Scotland are very different to Catholic schools in England. The fact the most Celtic fans attend Catholic schools and most Rangers fan attend non-denominational schools proves that this educational apartheid is partly responsible for the division. 95% of Celtic fans are Catholic, 95% of Rangers fans are Protestant - what more proof do you need? A few of my friends at Aberdeen University attended Glasgow Catholic schools and have told me that Protestants were always portrayed as bad/inferior people and that anti-British/pro Irish sentiments were very strong in all the teachings at their schools.

All I can say is thank god I went to a normal school where we just played football and had a laugh!!

In fact, i've said what I needed to say so i'm not going to comment anymore on this thread as it will just encourage the idiots on both sides to start acting like kids again!!

Celtic really should look at developing the main stand if the demand for tickets is there. Its such a small stand that the net gain of seats should make it a very cost-effective build. Of course demand has to be there.

When Man United are finished with developing their upper corners, I think they will have something like 35,000 people on the north side of the stadium, corners included.
If Celtic copied that then they would gain 35,000 seats on the main stand side only at the loss of the current main stand and the two small low corners. It should add 25,000 seats, I would guess, for an 85,000 capacity

I am not too sure if Celtic have the demand for that at the moment. If trhey getinto the premiership with Rangers at any point I wouldn't put it past the old firm to have stadia of 80000.

Although i hate to see either of them doing well go the DONS :-)

celtic dont have the demand at the moment - we have 55,000 season ticket holders from 60,000 seats right now

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You filthy fenian bastard. Ibrox was an accident, all grounds were like that back then. Overcrowded and unsafe. Ibrox was no more unsafe than any other Scottish stadium. If you said that to my face you would get your throat cut!!
hope you die in your slepp ya wee tosser. jope you die in your sleep i pray. hope you die in your sleep ya wee fanny. or from a bullet from the IRA.

^ :banned: a mod? please?

here we go again. :(

Why is the report button not working?

why is ghod allowed that offensive avtar? would it be allowed if it was bin-laden laughing at the twin towers? I think not.

Magic.

If I remember right the current main stand was built in the 70s and the facade updated in the 90s. A quick search on google hasnt produced the exact dates but if someone has a copy of the Simon Inglis - Football Grounds of Great Britain will be able to confirm it. ( an excellent read by the way )

The main stand is not a listed building per http://www.historic-scotland.gov.uk/listedbuildings

If it had been a listed building you would not have been able to change it.

And the upper tiers in the new stands are not what I would call safe. Not when you have a situation where the aisle steps are level with the tops of the seats and you step down into the row. One fan has already tripped and fallen into the bottom tier. How many more have almost done that or had minor injuries .

You filthy fenian bastard. Ibrox was an accident, all grounds were like that back then. Overcrowded and unsafe. Ibrox was no more unsafe than any other Scottish stadium. If you said that to my face you would get your throat cut!!


sadly, you are a typical rangers fan.
there were four previous incidents prior to the ibrox disaster. after each incident, rangers were asked to upgrade that part of the stadium and stairs. sadly they did not. 66 poor souls paid the price for that.
in those days, many clubs including celtic would probably have ignored the advice.
similar advice was given to hibs, dunfermline and falkirk. none took any notice til after that sad day in glasgow.
god bless those poor souls abd there families.

95% of Celtic fans are Catholic, 95% of Rangers fans are Protestant - what more proof do you need? A few of my friends at Aberdeen University attended Glasgow Catholic schools and have told me that Protestants were always portrayed as bad/inferior people and that anti-British/pro Irish sentiments were very strong in all the teachings at their schools.

All I can say is thank god I went to a normal school where we just played football and had a laugh!!

In fact, i've said what I needed to say so i'm not going to comment anymore on this thread as it will just encourage the idiots on both sides to start acting like kids again!![/QUOTE]

as you ask, what proof do you need?
where did you get the stats 95% from?

i like actual facts.

1. as you may be aware, government legislation actually states that anyone can attend catholic schools and they do.
9% of catholic schools have at least 20% non-catholics in scotland.
catholic observer stats 2004.

2. at the recent uk asian football finals held at celtic park, there were children representing many west of scotland schools, mostly protestant.
all of them supporting celtic. from birmingham there were four schools represented three supported man utd, one, villa. which academic research do you get this 95% from??????

3. looking at some of your previous bigoted quotes. here are some more stats.

4. Rangers Supporters Trust spokesman asked "why are rangers fans 90 times more likley to be arrested for sectarian offences" this was after arrests made at the recent old firm games. as you will see this is statistically incorrect.

5. you are actually 360 times more likley to be arrested for sectarian offences if you are a rangers fan.
scottish office stats 2004.

6. sadly all people murdered, which have been linked to sectarian killings have been celtic fans. not all catholic, may i add.
nil by mouth stats 2004.

7. sadly, last year there were arrests for sectarian abuse towards celtic fans, celtic players, former celtic players and catholic players at all scottish premier league grounds, with the exception of dundee united. well done united.
scottish office stats 2004.

8.recently only dundee, had a fan brave enough to approach the police and report sectarian and racist abuse, aimed at bobo balde. this was a child, who after complaining to the steward and being ignored, told the police.

9. scotland now holds the proud record of being the only country in western europe were you are more likley to recieve sectarian abuse than racist abuse.
sadly, this cant be linked to racist abuse declining, it has increased in scotland for the ninth year running!!
scottish office stats 2004.

10. in a recent survey in the northwest of england held by the catholic church, who were looking into the large increase in various faiths attending there schools. 78% said it was due to the statistically better achievements of catholic schools, than other non-denominational schools.
liverpool diocese 2003.

11. why is it only scotland, that has a problem with catholic schools? is it due to the fact that the largest church in scotland with 68% of the population still has CHURCH documents stating the pope is the " ANTI-CHRIST".

12.are you sure you went to uni?

in closing, everyone is equal. when the great protestant celtic manager was once asked " if you had the chance to sign a catholic or protestant, who would you buy?" he famously replied " the protestant, because i know they(rangers) wouldnt sign a catholic".

Pictures of stadiums are all well and good but nothing beats a good video:

1 (in memory of those that died in the Madrid bombings. RIP) (http://www.celtic.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/barca_ynwa.wmv)
2 (excellent views of the stadium!) (http://celtic.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/liverpool_ynwa.wmv)

1. as you may be aware, government legislation actually states that anyone can attend catholic schools and they do.
9% of catholic schools have at least 20% non-catholics in scotland.
catholic observer stats 2004.

2. at the recent uk asian football finals held at celtic park, there were children representing many west of scotland schools, mostly protestant.
all of them supporting celtic. from birmingham there were four schools represented three supported man utd, one, villa. which academic research do you get this 95% from??????

3. looking at some of your previous bigoted quotes. here are some more stats.

4. Rangers Supporters Trust spokesman asked "why are rangers fans 90 times more likley to be arrested for sectarian offences" this was after arrests made at the recent old firm games. as you will see this is statistically incorrect.

5. you are actually 360 times more likley to be arrested for sectarian offences if you are a rangers fan.
scottish office stats 2004.

6. sadly all people murdered, which have been linked to sectarian killings have been celtic fans. not all catholic, may i add.
nil by mouth stats 2004.

7. sadly, last year there were arrests for sectarian abuse towards celtic fans, celtic players, former celtic players and catholic players at all scottish premier league grounds, with the exception of dundee united. well done united.
scottish office stats 2004.

8.recently only dundee, had a fan brave enough to approach the police and report sectarian and racist abuse, aimed at bobo balde. this was a child, who after complaining to the steward and being ignored, told the police.

9. scotland now holds the proud record of being the only country in western europe were you are more likley to recieve sectarian abuse than racist abuse.
sadly, this cant be linked to racist abuse declining, it has increased in scotland for the ninth year running!!
scottish office stats 2004.

10. in a recent survey in the northwest of england held by the catholic church, who were looking into the large increase in various faiths attending there schools. 78% said it was due to the statistically better achievements of catholic schools, than other non-denominational schools.
liverpool diocese 2003.

11. why is it only scotland, that has a problem with catholic schools? is it due to the fact that the largest church in scotland with 68% of the population still has CHURCH documents stating the pope is the " ANTI-CHRIST".

12.are you sure you went to uni?

in closing, everyone is equal. when the great protestant celtic manager was once asked " if you had the chance to sign a catholic or protestant, who would you buy?" he famously replied " the protestant, because i know they(rangers) wouldnt sign a catholic".

There you go again - another Scottish Catholic playing the role of the oppressed!! No wonder football fans of Sotland hate your lot just as much as they hate Rangers fans. You're calling an ABERDEEN fan a bigot???? Can everybody see a pattern here? Everytime somebody disagrees with a celtic fan they are called a 'bigot'. It is identical to the 'racist' card that a lot of minorities use when something doesn't go their way.

Everybody knows 95% of Celtic fans are Catholic and 95% of Rangers fans are Protestant. Go to any Catholic school in Scotland and nearly every single male will support Celtic, not one will support Rangers. If Catholic schools were not part of the problem then you would have a healthy mix of Celtic/Rangers fans in Catholic and non-denominational schools. This is not the case. You will not find one single Rangers fan in a Catholic school in Scotland. This shows that these schools are partly responsible for the division. I have lived in Scotland for 25 years and I have never met a Protestant Celtic fan or a Catholic Rangers fan. I reckon the figure of 95% is probably to low. I remember reading a report in the Scotsman newspaper (the survey was reported in all Scottish papers) where Celtic and Rangers both done surveys of their fans and Celtic found that 95% of their season ticket holders were Catholic and Rangers found that 93% of their season ticket holders were Protestant. This is all the proof I need.

In the last 10 years, 14 Celtic fans have been killed and 13 Rangers fans killed in Scotland in football related murders. I don't care what some mickey mouse organization says - these are the facts. 14 Celtic fans killed for being Catholic Celtic fans, and 13 Rangers fans killed for being Protestant Rangers fans. 27 lives wasted. Do you not understand that celtic fans are no angels? Non old firm fans hate you because you are just as bad as Rangers fans. Your team and your fans have always got somebody else to blame when Celtic fail at something. It's the referees, linesmen, Orange lodges, Masonic Lodges, SFA, anti Catholic employers, aliens, Elvis etc ...... it's always someone else to blame, never themselves or Celtic. Isn't it funny how Celtic fans aren't moaning about refs this year!!! I have never met such a moaning, whining, bad losing, ungrateful, hypocritical set of fans as Celtic fans, and this is coming from an ABERDEEN fan!!

No doubt you will reply with some 'Scotland hates Catholics' nonsense that only exists in your head. If you hate Scotland that much and think that we all hate Catholics, then you are perfectly free to leave and go elsewhere. Scotland is not at all anti-Catholic. If you fail at something in Scotland it's because you weren't good enough. Stop your moaning and get on with things. I'm not going to entertain you anymore as you are a typical example of the paranoid Glasgow Celtic fan who blames everybody else for anything that goes wrong in his life.

Please read this and you might actually learn something -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/415415.stm

I have never met such a moaning, whining, bad losing, ungrateful, hypocritical set of fans as Celtic fans, and this is coming from an ABERDEEN fan!!
The fact that you posted 2 big paragraphs complaining about the sectarianism among Celtic fans and then wrote:
"As for John_Carpenter, he is also a bigoted idiot and a thread ruiner just like Magic_Zurawski."

^^ One line on Rangers? That leads me to believe you are a Rangers fan.

I should also add that hating the Pope and the Catholic Church does not mean you hate Catholics. There are many good Catholics (including my father) who are disgusted by their religious leaders. I hated Pope John Paul, as he was responsible for the slow suffering deaths of tens of millions of Africans as the Pope and those around him told these poor people that sex without condoms was wrong and evil. Being undeveloped and uneducated countries, they believed the idiot and now you have African families ridden with Aids and millions starving to death as they had no family planning or condoms and so they gave birth to far to many children who they could not feed. The Pope lived in extreme luxury, whilst those he preached to die slowly of Aids. One painting in the Vatican could be sold and the money would save the lives of millions, but no, the new Pope and his cronies continue to live in obscene luxury whilst those they preached to starve to death and die of aids. The Catholic church today is also the worlds largest paedophile ring, with thousands of Catholic priests in Boston being exposed as paedophiles, with many many more around the world. I should also add that my three Catholic friends at Aberdeen University also think that the Catholic hierarchy is a vile and corrupt organisation.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2339749.stm

As I said, I think all old firm posters should be banned from the stadium section as they are as bad as each other. I had to make these points as Celtic fans love to play the role of the oppressed when in reality they are not opressesd at all. I've made my points, i'm off back to the UK section of Skyscrapercity. Thanks for reading.

hope you die in your slepp ya wee tosser. jope you die in your sleep i pray. hope you die in your sleep ya wee fanny. or from a bullet from the IRA.


Just noticed this!!! Please can this be removed. I have reported the site to the appropriate American/British authorities as the mods appear to be not removing the user or his terrorist related posts. Pro Al-Qaeda posts would not be allowed on the site and neither should pro IRA posts be allowed.

Further evidence to suggest that all Old Firm fans should be banned from the sports section. I will no longer entertain them so I won't post anymore, but can the mods please to something about the terrorist related posts? It's an embarrassment to Scotland!!!

I should also add that hating the Pope and the Catholic Church does not mean you hate Catholics. There are many good Catholics (including my father) who are disgusted by their religious leaders. I hate the Pope, as he was responsible for the slow suffering deaths of tens of millions of Africans as the Pope and those around him told these poor people that sex without condoms was wrong and evil. Being undeveloped and uneducated countries, they believed the idiot and now you have African families ridden with Aids and millions starving to death as they had no family planning or condoms and so they gave birth to far to many children who they could not feed. The Pope lives in extreme luxury, whilst those he preaches to die slowly of Aids. One painting in the Vatican could be sold and the money would save the lives of millions, but no, the Pope and his cronies continue to live in obscene luxury whilst those he preached to starve to death and die of aids.
Eh, you do realise that Pope John Paul died last year...

North_Beach, it is obvious you are a Rangers fan.

I should also add that my three Catholic friends at Aberdeen University
:D :D

Hello lads. I’m a long time lurker, but I had to register to make some points here. I am an Aberdeen fan and I can tell you we are sick of the ‘Old Firm’. Both sides are as bad as each other, but a few things have to be cleared up. Celtic fans like to play the role of the ‘oppressed’, when in reality nothing could be further from the truth. In a previous thread, Magic_Zurawski called a Rangers fan a ‘hun’. This is just as bad as a Rangers fan calling a Celtic fan a ‘fenian’. Fenian does not mean a Catholic, just like ‘Hun’ does not mean a Protestant, but both names are insulting to both sets of fans and should not be used. Both names are banned from Scottish TV and Scottish Radio. Magic_Zurawski cannot complain about bigotry when he himself also uses these insulting terms to describe Rangers fans. ‘Fenian’ and ‘Hun’ are technically not bigoted, but this is irrelevant as both terms are highly insulting to Celtic and Rangers fans. Magic_Zurawski also has a go at the education standards at non-denominational schools in Scotland. As you can imagine, this is highly insulting to 90% of the Scottish population as 90% attend non religious non-denominational schools. Part of the problem with Celtic/Rangers fans is that that most Celtic fans go to Catholic schools and all Rangers fans go to non-religious non-denominational schools. As they don’t mix you end up with problems. It is basically educational apartheid.

In another thread, you also had a Celtic fan (Ghod7) using terrorists as his avatar, and another Celtic fan using the deaths of 66 Rangers fans (mostly young boys) and the death of a much loved Rangers player in a pathetic attempt to try and get one up on his teams rivals. If that isn't the actions of lowlife, then I don't know what is!! I am shocked that this site allows the use of the IRA as avatars and I have contacted the mods to have this user removed. If no action is taken then I will report this site to the relevant authorities. I hate to have to do this as I love the site, but IRA terrorists as avatars is grossly offensive to UK residents. We are talking about the mass murder of innocent men, women and children. We cannot have this on the site.

As for John_Carpenter, he is also a bigoted idiot and a thread ruiner just like Magic_Zurawski. Personally, I would ban all old firm fans from the forum.

Convoluted rubbish, skipping to the crux, "Hun" Does not have any religious overtones, undertones, middletones or any other tones it is a term which has been used for Rangers supporters since the seventies, a reporter described them as being like "Huns trampling through Europe" after they smashed up Barcelona.

Therefore its become a by-word for morons who smash things up and ruin things, quite appropriate in this instance. Still though if you insist its somehow bigoted then I will continue to assume you don't have a scooby doo what you are talking about.


And by the way you might want to get your priorities in order, this is an architecture forum I posted some pictures of a stadium, nothing wrong with that, it is that lowlife who came on and lowered the tone. There is a time and a place for discussing all the religious crap that goes with the OF but its not here. Sadly some morons just can't keep to the subject.

"Aberdeen fan" hehe..

Celtic really should look at developing the main stand if the demand for tickets is there. Its such a small stand that the net gain of seats should make it a very cost-effective build. Of course demand has to be there.

When Man United are finished with developing their upper corners, I think they will have something like 35,000 people on the north side of the stadium, corners included.
If Celtic copied that then they would gain 35,000 seats on the main stand side only at the loss of the current main stand and the two small low corners. It should add 25,000 seats, I would guess, for an 85,000 capacity

At least somebody is keeping to the subject, well done :)

That is a good idea but I think because of the restrictions on the main stand that redevelopment would cost alot more as it would have to maintain the existing structure as well. I don't think its worth it at the moment, 60,000 is probably about right just now - we could sell alot more for European games and OF games but 60,000 is about our limit for run of the mill games

Which isn't bad considering only one club in the whole of Britain averages higher, and Man Utd fans have the incentive of going to see Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs and we have to put up with rubbish like Motherwell, Kilmarnock and Rangers. ;)

celtic dont have the demand at the moment - we have 55,000 season ticket holders from 60,000 seats right now

But 55,000 is a very high percentage season tickets suggesting that they have all sold out. But I guess they havent they way you put it

I hope demand could grow, though it must be difficult with the already impressive support, but scotland really needs massive gate receipts to be able to compete as they get little tv-income.


On all the bigotry, I wonder if scots understand just how embarrassing such openly conducted disgraceful behaviour is to the country.

Every sports-related site and the worst behaviour is from scots. Open use of terrorist symbols is just shocking! I dont know if the average scots have just gotten use to it but it should be stopped.

But 55,000 is a very high percentage season tickets suggesting that they have all sold out. But I guess they havent they way you put it

I hope demand could grow, though it must be difficult with the already impressive support, but scotland really needs massive gate receipts to be able to compete as they get little tv-income.


On all the bigotry, I wonder if scots understand just how embarrassing such openly conducted disgraceful behaviour is to the country.

Every sports-related site and the worst behaviour is from scots. Open use of terrorist symbols is just shocking! I dont know if the average scots have just gotten use to it but it should be stopped.



if celtic and rangers moved to a more lucrative league, i think they could get 70,000 + at home games.

but in the spl, its not going to happen

But 55,000 is a very high percentage season tickets suggesting that they have all sold out. But I guess they havent they way you put it

I hope demand could grow, though it must be difficult with the already impressive support, but scotland really needs massive gate receipts to be able to compete as they get little tv-income.


On all the bigotry, I wonder if scots understand just how embarrassing such openly conducted disgraceful behaviour is to the country.

Every sports-related site and the worst behaviour is from scots. Open use of terrorist symbols is just shocking! I dont know if the average scots have just gotten use to it but it should be stopped.

Unfortunately its still a problem here, even when you try to start a discussion on somethin as innoffensive as a stadium some bitter bigot will turn up to turn it into religious crap. A large proportion of Rangers fans have a problem with hating Catholic, a large proportion of Celtic fans have a weird obsession with Ireland and large sections of other teams fans like Hearts and Motherwell are just as bad, racists and bigots.

Bit I digress..... Wish we coulda just kept this to stadiums.

Unfortunately its still a problem here, even when you try to start a discussion on somethin as innoffensive as a stadium some bitter bigot will turn up to turn it into religious crap. A large proportion of Rangers fans have a problem with hating Catholic, a large proportion of Celtic fans have a weird obsession with Ireland and large sections of other teams fans like Hearts and Motherwell are just as bad, racists and bigots.

Bit I digress..... Wish we coulda just kept this to stadiums.


Apart from name calling for 90 minutes at Old Firm games, Scotland doesn't really have any problems with sectarianism. Yes, 27 Old Firm fans have been killed in the last 10 years (14 Celtic, 13 Rangers), but these fans were killed by nutters who would have killed someone at some point regardless of the reasons. The housing estates in Glasgow are very violent and these nutters were always going to kill at some point. Football was just their excuse, if it wasn't football it would of been something else!! The whole problem is highly exaggerated by the media. Read the link and you will see that no real problems exist -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/415415.stm


Please people, don't listen to this bigot called 'Magic_Zurawski'. He has admitted he went to a Scottish Catholic school, so he is simply going to hate everything about Protestant Scotland. He is a typical Celtic fan with a paranoid chip on his shoulder. He thinks everybody is out to get him in Scotland, when in reality nobody could care less about him!!

'Magic_Zurawski' - Don't drag other clubs into your bigoted world. Celtic/Rangers are the ones with bigots, all the fans of other Scottish teams couldn't care less about your warped bigoted way of thinking.

Every time somebody disagrees with him, he calls them a bigot!! In Scotland we call it 'playing the Catholic card'. It is the same as some minorities who play the 'race card'. Basically, whenever someone is not good enough at something, they play this card and accuse people of being racists/bigots so that they can get whatever they want even though they don't deserve it!! You can even get T-Shirts highlighting this :lol: :lol:

http://www.soccerhell.co.uk/kafflik/kafflikkelly.gif

Check the site, loads of funny t-shirts -

http://www.soccerhell.co.uk/alltshirts.php

i liked this one :

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"You would be forgiven should you not know who rangers are this point and time. Nobody really takes an interest in whats going further down the league unless you actually support one of the lower teams. Sad but true!!"

:laugh:

Bit I digress..... Wish we coulda just kept this to stadiums.


Within a few days of appearing on this site, you and your friends had closed down a thread that had been going for over 6 months. A thread that most users on the site had enjoyed. You can have no complaints if someone decides to ruin your thread as you done the exact same with your bigoted nonsense to someone else's thread!! What's wrong? Do you not like the taste of your own medicine? Typical Celtic fan....he can dish it out, but he starts crying when he gets it back!! You and your bigoted friends with their terrorist talk are not welcome on the site. You are simply an embarrassment to Scotland and its good kind people.

Within a few days of appearing on this site, you and your friends had closed down a thread that had been going for over 6 months. A thread that most users on the site had enjoyed. You can have no complaints if someone decides to ruin your thread as you done the exact same with your bigoted nonsense to someone else's thread!! What's wrong? Do you not like the taste of your own medicine? Typical Celtic fan....he can dish it out, but he starts crying when he gets it back!! You and your bigoted friends with their terrorist talk are not welcome on the site. You are simply an embarrassment to Scotland and its good kind people.
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'Magic_Zurawski' - Don't drag other clubs into your bigoted world. Celtic/Rangers are the ones with bigots, all the fans of other Scottish teams couldn't care less about your warped bigoted way of thinking.


Speaking from recent experiences in Motherwell and Edinburgh bigotry is NOT a Celtic/Rangers only thing. Were you there ? Didn't think so...

Within a few days of appearing on this site, you and your friends had closed down a thread that had been going for over 6 months. A thread that most users on the site had enjoyed. You can have no complaints if someone decides to ruin your thread as you done the exact same with your bigoted nonsense to someone else's thread!! What's wrong? Do you not like the taste of your own medicine? Typical Celtic fan....he can dish it out, but he starts crying when he gets it back!! You and your bigoted friends with their terrorist talk are not welcome on the site. You are simply an embarrassment to Scotland and its good kind people.

I have said nothing untoward, quote me if you think I have. You must be getting me mixed up with you're fellow hun and his "Taig" patter. Sad sad man

Well for a start you use repeatedly a term for Rangers fans that is offensive and has been banned by various uk media outlets.

Funny how you tend to reply to the non stadium posts which you claim to be so offended by rather than the stadium posts.

Beautiful Ground on the inside and thats all that counts!! The atmosphere is the best in the world and id put it right up there with my beloved Liverpool. How come their are tiny pillars at the top of the north stand?

It's probably considered sacrilegous to actually talk about stadium issues in this thread, but the reason for those "tiny pillars" is that they couldn't put the large external columns holding the roof up any further back because of the proximity of the cemetery.

What I didn't realise until reading this thread is that, while space is cramped on that side, there's plenty of it everywhere else - though I suppose the only way to take advantage of this would have been to rebuild the main stand further back before starting on the ones that actually needed doing, and this would have temporarily left Parkhead as an all-standing stadium!

That's not actually true. The 14 large roof supports were put in to save about £1 million in steel work. You have to remember that Celtic Park is very very basic and was built as cheaply as possible (£31 million for the whole thing, including main stand refurbishment), so £1 million was a lot of money for Celtic.

From Simon Inglis's 'Football Grounds Of Britain' - "because the North Stand had to be squeezed into the available space between the pitch and the cemetery, the rear eleven rows of the upper tier have been cantilevered over the graveyard. To save an extra £1 million or more in steelwork, this has unfortunately meant the inclusion of 14 roof columns"

In other words, if Celtic had paid an extra million there wouldn't be 14 roof supports.

Because the stadium was built so cheaply, we have to spend about £1 million a year on maintenance. It's going to cost a good packet to rectify the stadium in a few years as to be honest, it's already beginning to fall apart. Fergus McCann built it so cheaply as he wanted to get maximum profits before he left. If you visit our stadium you will see exposed wiring, pipes all over the place and very basic facilities, as it is basically a big concrete shell. Hopefully when it needs to get rebuilt (sooner than you think), the board will actually put some quality into it instead of building what amounts to a flat-pack Ikea stadium.


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I'm afraid celtics greatest ever manager protected a paedophile, making him just as bad as the paedophile. Had Jock Stein gone to the police, many children would not have been sexually abused, but 'Big Jock' was more interested in his career. Yes, a 'great' man indeed -

"Daily Record (Glasgow, Scotland); 11/7/1998; McILWRAITH, GORDON
JOCK Stein and the Celtic board covered up allegations made against Boys' Club founder Jim Torbett, it was claimed yesterday.
Torbett, who is now accused of abusing three boys while he was at the club, was literally kicked out of Parkhead by Stein, a court heard.
But when the claims subsequently surfaced, Celtic manager Stein and the directors were anxious to keep the image of the club clean and nothing more was done about them.
The claim was made by former Celtic Boys' Club chairman Hugh Birt, 61, who said he felt "fabulous" when the Daily Record broke a story about Torbett two years ago.
Mr Birt told Glasgow Sheriff Court that when he first heard about the allegations he didn't have enough evidence to go to the police.
Asked how he now felt about giving evidence against Torbett, he replied: "It's a tremendous relief for me because I have been carrying it about for 25 years."
He said he was asked to be chairman when Torbett was "put out" of the Boys' Club.
Asked who got rid of him, Mr Birt said: "According to Mr Stein, he literally put his foot up his backside and kicked him out. It was all covered up by Celtic as to why."
He admitted that he had a good relationship with Torbett, who returned to the Boys' Club as a fund-raiser several years later.
Mr Birt said: "There was a lot of hearsay and it wasn't until Jim came back that I got involved because things started up again."
He told how he took the allegations against Torbett to the Celtic board and Stein and even told the then vice-chairman, Kevin Kelly, about them at a meeting in his car.
He said: "Although there were people who spoke to me I couldn't go to the police without actual proof of the allegations. When I joined as chairman, I was told by Jock Stein to keep the name of Celtic Football Club clean at all times."
He denied a suggestion from Alan Nicol, defending, that he was a "troublemaker" and that he had been forced to leave the Boys' Club for spreading gossip about the sexuality of a referee.
Kevin Kelly, 61, a director of Torbett's Trophy Centre firm, said during his time at the club no one made any allegations and he denied ever meeting Birt to discuss claims against Torbett.
Another Trophy Centre director, Gerald McAleer, 42, who played for the Boys' Club when Torbett was there, denied in evidence that his silence had been bought.
As a youngster, he had gone on trips with other boys to the cinema and restaurants with Torbett as well as going to his flat, but said he had never seen anything amiss.
Most of the time he was in the flat, Torbett's mother was there. He said he had a good relationship with Torbett then and was still friends with him now.
He was "absolutely positive" that he had never seen Torbett interfere with one of the alleged boy victims, James McGrory.
Torbett, 51, of Burnbrae Road, Auchinloch, Lenzie, near Glasgow, denies three charges of shameless indecency involving James McGrory, now 44, David Gordon, now 38, and former Scotland star Alan Brazil.
Torbett also denies further offences against Mr McGrory at two cinemas, two restaurants and a bowling alley.
The trial continues on Monday."


Celtic have a long long record of sexually abusing young boys. Please read and discover the biggest paedophile ring in Scotland (they are a catholic club, so it's no great suprise) -

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/k.tole/Celtic%20Stats%201996-1997/Celtic%20Boys%20Club.PDF

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Celtic fans at Ibrox 2 weeks before Rangers won last seasons title -

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/415/mastercard5kl2mp.jpg


What a great day -

http://i1.tinypic.com/mkeyjk.jpg


Celtic fan bubblin -

http://i1.tinypic.com/mkesuw.jpg


Statue of Brother Walfrid (who founded celtic to keep catholics from mixing with Protestants) unveiled outside celtic park -

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/9814/hvjh7vs.jpg


Martin O'Neil needs a job after losing the title with 30 seconds of the season left -

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/8813/thepiggery59zj5xs.jpg


Martin O'Neil leaves Glasgow -

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/6030/unijhjtitled4og.jpg


The more things change, the more they stay the same -

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/7118/untit1151led9pd.jpg


What's wrong with this pic? -

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/6015/bb0xb.jpg


Wealthy celtic fans on their way to the executive boxes -

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/5738/unt55kj.jpg

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Martin O'Neil commentating for Setanta -

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/1600/efwef6ao.jpg


Wee Jinky -

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/933/jinkyob9lr.jpg


New adverts for Carlsberg -

http://i1.tinypic.com/mkervb.jpg

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Celtic Park in all its glory -

http://media.putfile.com/celtic-park_0001

Mate this thread is about stadiums and judging by your last post you have way to much spare time on your hands.You keep demeaning Celtic but it just makes Rangers look worse because despite this relatively poor quality stadium it is still home to something the blue half of Glasgow will never have (well not in my lifetime anyway!) and thats the european cup so try toning the jealousy down a bit and try saying something relevant to a football ground.

That's not actually true. The 14 large roof supports were put in to save about £1 million in steel work. You have to remember that Celtic Park is very very basic and was built as cheaply as possible (£31 million for the whole thing, including main stand refurbishment), so £1 million was a lot of money for Celtic.

From Simon Inglis's 'Football Grounds Of Britain' - "because the North Stand had to be squeezed into the available space between the pitch and the cemetery, the rear eleven rows of the upper tier have been cantilevered over the graveyard. To save an extra £1 million or more in steelwork, this has unfortunately meant the inclusion of 14 roof columns"

In other words, if Celtic had paid an extra million there wouldn't be 14 roof supports.

I stand corrected! My info came from the same book, my memory just isn't that good :D

I had the book in front of me as I typed. Great book, I wish he would bring out an updated one, or a new European one!! He is the Godfather of stadiums!!

I have the European one too - it's incredible what a difference 15 years has made to the stadium landscape!

The whole thing stinks!! Its ridiculous and its the 21st century and not the dark ages. Its so sad that religion; that greatest mechanism of subjective control and discredited way back in the 19th century as being little more than a stupid opiate; is still being fought out in a modern society and more to the point, a modern city like Glasgow!!!

51 league tiltles is not something really to boast about. It simply highlights a top-heavy and frankly rather farcical league. Celtic and Rangers are both great clubs and which both deserve a league where there is actually some opposition. Maybe then you'll stop all this antiquated conflation of football and religion and realise that football can be as just exciting without it

Apart from name calling for 90 minutes at Old Firm games, Scotland doesn't really have any problems with sectarianism. Yes, 27 Old Firm fans have been killed in the last 10 years (14 Celtic, 13 Rangers), but these fans were killed by nutters who would have killed someone at some point regardless of the reasons. The housing estates in Glasgow are very violent and these nutters were always going to kill at some point. Football was just their excuse, if it wasn't football it would of been something else!! The whole problem is highly exaggerated by the media. Read the link and you will see that no real problems exist -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/415415.stm


Please people, don't listen to this bigot called 'Magic_Zurawski'. He has admitted he went to a Scottish Catholic school, so he is simply going to hate everything about Protestant Scotland. He is a typical Celtic fan with a paranoid chip on his shoulder. He thinks everybody is out to get him in Scotland, when in reality nobody could care less about him!!

'Magic_Zurawski' - Don't drag other clubs into your bigoted world. Celtic/Rangers are the ones with bigots, all the fans of other Scottish teams couldn't care less about your warped bigoted way of thinking.

Every time somebody disagrees with him, he calls them a bigot!! In Scotland we call it 'playing the Catholic card'. It is the same as some minorities who play the 'race card'. Basically, whenever someone is not good enough at something, they play this card and accuse people of being racists/bigots so that they can get whatever they want even though they don't deserve it!! You can even get T-Shirts highlighting this :lol: :lol:

http://www.soccerhell.co.uk/kafflik/kafflikkelly.gif

Check the site, loads of funny t-shirts -

http://www.soccerhell.co.uk/alltshirts.php
The 14 figure is correct, the 13 is grossly exaggerated and is closer to 1 or 2, which is still too many.

Within a few days of appearing on this site, you and your friends had closed down a thread that had been going for over 6 months. A thread that most users on the site had enjoyed. You can have no complaints if someone decides to ruin your thread as you done the exact same with your bigoted nonsense to someone else's thread!! What's wrong? Do you not like the taste of your own medicine? Typical Celtic fan....he can dish it out, but he starts crying when he gets it back!! You and your bigoted friends with their terrorist talk are not welcome on the site. You are simply an embarrassment to Scotland and its good kind people.
How would you know how long a thread was here since you have only posted twice ?

The whole thing stinks!! Its ridiculous and its the 21st century and not the dark ages. Its so sad that religion; that greatest mechanism of subjective control and discredited way back in the 19th century as being little more than a stupid opiate; is still being fought out in a modern society and more to the point, a modern city like Glasgow!!!



so why do you do it yourself?

non-religion is your belief and its not superior to other beliefs, so youre guilty of the same thing you attack.

so why do you do it yourself?

non-religion is your belief and its not superior to other beliefs, so youre guilty of the same thing you attack.

This is somewhat trite reasoning, but in broad generalised terms its an obvious point. But I guess you have to question a belief system which refuses to acknowledge the rights and claims of the other; be it religious or political. In this particular instance, football has been hijacked to ferry in a redundant sectarian conflict. We're talking of organised dogmas here that serve little function except to reinforce patterns of exclusion, hatred and often violence. Its not compatible with a modern society to which Scotland is part of. And while organised belief systems might give solace to many, its stupid mythologising is often at the expense of any real change and real negotiation. In effect, a social lobotomy

Football will always be a vehichle for something other than 22 players and a ball. This is a given. Historically it's been a matter of class distinction, perhaps now its an economic function, all these things aren't particularly helpfull. But hey! its all part of life's rich 'Intelligent Design'

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Celtic Park is my favourite place in the world.

I'm sad to see that this thread has gone quite off-topic, but since I am new to this site, I would like to comment anyway. The stadium, like many, is not too easy on the eye on the outside, depending on how you look at it.However, on the inside, it is a great arena, particularly at night. The YNWA against Barca on the day of the Madrid bombings was one of the most emotional moments of my life.

Although built cheaply, there is no possibility of the stadium falling down or any abnormal maintenance costs. I suspect that the poster The Hoops is a Rangers fan as most of the lies he has told can commonly be heard on any Rangers website etc.I also suspect the guy claiming to be an Aberdeen fan is also a Rangers fan, but I don't really care.

Also, those outsiders who think that the problems between OF fans are all down to religion are wrong. Would you not expect a very heated rivalry between fans of 2 clubs who are the biggest and most successful in the country and are also in the same city? It may not occur in England, but it happens in many other countries in the world.

Anyway, back to the stadium. I do not expect the Main Stand to be redeveloped anytime soon. The cost would be astronomical and for a club operating in Celtic's financial climate it is a non-starter.

Long post I know, great site though.

Dang, these Old Firm matches sound exciting, are they on TV in the US? Celtic Park and Ibrox both look really cool and very different from what we have on this side of the pond.


Also, those outsiders who think that the problems between OF fans are all down to religion are wrong. Would you not expect a very heated rivalry between fans of 2 clubs who are the biggest and most successful in the country and are also in the same city? It may not occur in England, but it happens in many other countries in the world.


Sounds interesting, there arent many professional sports rivalries in the US which are in the same city (since most US leagues only have 1 team per city, 2 at the most), and certainly none with this kind of intensity. College sports are a different matter, in-state rivalrys are pretty intense, especially when you see opposing fans every day.

Dang, these Old Firm matches sound exciting, are they on TV in the US? Celtic Park and Ibrox both look really cool and very different from what we have on this side of the pond.



Sounds interesting, there arent many professional sports rivalries in the US which are in the same city (since most US leagues only have 1 team per city, 2 at the most), and certainly none with this kind of intensity. College sports are a different matter, in-state rivalrys are pretty intense, especially when you see opposing fans every day.


I have heard about the college rivalries, I was told it can be pretty heated. I'm not sure if Old Firm games are shown on TV in America. Well, they must be somehow because there are so many supporters clubs etc in America. I'm not sure if it's on TV or not, but there's an Old Firm game on this Sunday.

I think the fact that Nil By Mouth tried to called Rangers bigots over mowing a tartan pattern into the pitch just shows how ridiculous the whole thing is up there. They claimed Rangers mowed in an Orangeman's sash. Which was absolute bollocks.

I think the fact that Nil By Mouth tried to called Rangers bigots over mowing a tartan pattern into the pitch just shows how ridiculous the whole thing is up there. They claimed Rangers mowed in an Orangeman's sash. Which was absolute bollocks.

It wasn't NBM, they never accused anyone of anything. It was the News of the Screws that printed the accusation. Who believes a word of that?

Aye, it was them. They're a corrupt organisation, anybody can see this. Well anybody who doesn't support either of the Old Firm.

The 14 figure is correct, the 13 is grossly exaggerated and is closer to 1 or 2, which is still too many.
Another Celtic victory over Rankgers has again been overshadowed by the murders of 2 more Celtic supporters after the match.
This now brings the disgusting tally to 16 in recent years.

Another Celtic victory over Rankgers has again been overshadowed by the murders of 2 more Celtic supporters after the match.
This now brings the disgusting tally to 16 in recent years.

More made up rubbish. Nobody was killed in Scotland this week in sectarian attacks. Some people will have been killed, and there is a very high chance they supported a football club, but they were not killed BECAUSE they supported that football club.

My friends cousin was stabbed to death and he was a Falkirk fan. However, the fact he was a Falkirk fan was not the reason he was attacked. Nearly all victims of murders in Glasgow will be either Rangers or Celtic fans as nearly all males in Glasgow support Rangers or Celtic. This doesn't mean they were killed because they support either of these teams. I am a Celtic fan and if I was stabbed to death by a burglar, does that mean it was sectarian attack? No, of course it doesn't.

Give it a rest mate. I was as happy as anybody with the win over Rangers. Stop trying to play the oppressed and turn it into something it wasn't. You are making Celtic, Glasgow and Scotland look like a backward country, which we are not.

^^ I agree remarks like that will make people look at scotland in a different light, after getting involved in several sport forums i have now got a full education on the crime figures of Glasgow(which r really bad). Individual spouting things like that in an architectural forum really need to look at themselves- Scotland deserves better.

Why is it that every single 'Celtic' or 'Rangers' or 'Celtic vs Rangers' thread ends up being a magnet for every pathetic, bickering Scottish idiot this side of the Atlantic?

I think it's probably becasue Scotland only has two half-decent, well-known football clubs, so naturally its the only real rivalry available for people to fight about.

English football-and Spanish for that matter-has many many top class rivalries for many different reasons (Man U v Liverpool, Man U v Man City, Bolton v Arsenal, Arsenal v Chelsea, Liverpool v Everton, Man U v Arsenal...etc etc etc) and each one is bitter, intense, passionate and always exciting, that's why everyone loves them, no matter which club they support. But when it comes to Celtic and Rangers, the rivalry isn't healthy and lively, it's just an excuse to bitch, whine, fight, punch and bicker with eachother. And I've gotta say, from an outsider's p.o.v, it's just really lame!
It's no wonder Scotland's football repuation is so low, if the game itself takes backseat to the non-snesical, irrelevant little disputes between the clubs playing. And from what I've heard, those people who don't support Rangers or Celtic in Scotland are just as fed up with them as everyone else. They're bringing down the whole Scottish league imo.

There's even a section on wikipedia about this over-wraught rivalry:

"The competition between the two clubs has its roots in more than just a simple athletic rivalry. It is infused with a series of complex disputes centred on religion (Catholic and Protestant) and Northern Ireland politics. The result has been an enduring enmity between fans that has extended beyond the kind of intra-city footballing rivalry that might be expected in situations where two clubs dominate a country's footballing scene. This has been manifested in a history laden with sectarian violence, sometimes leading to deaths.
Increasingly in recent years, both clubs have frequently participated in initiatives and campaigns along with religious organisations and the Scottish Executive directed at removing the sectarian undercurrent, including supporting pressure group Nil by Mouth. However, disagreements about what constitutes sectarian behaviour have undermined progress in these matters, and consensus over what types of songs and flags are acceptable remains difficult to achieve."

^^ Arguing over what types of songs and flags are acceptable... :ohno:

"Both Celtic and Rangers have expressed a desire to leave the Scottish league system and become part of the English Premiership. Both clubs currently receive less in television revenue than many English clubs with smaller fan bases. A move to the Premiership would give both Old Firm clubs a significant financial boost...."
"...Reports have suggested that Premiership clubs voted 20 - 0 in 2004 to reject the Old Firm's admission to the Premiership"

^^ It is no surprise to find that no-one wants these war-mongering clubs in the English Premier league, I mean, who wants to travel all the way to Scotland to play against a team who's supporters are more interested in slagging off and fighting the opposition's supporters then watching the actual match. We don't need this whole Rangers/Celtic crap bringing down the standards of the Premiership!

In threads about Arsenal's new sadium ,or Liverpool's, or Man United's extension etc there are plenty of people from different areas of the country, who support the rivals of the team in question, who manage to give compliments about how the new stadium will look, and it is generally broad-minded and rational, but as soon as you see a thread about Ranger's or Celtic's stadium, you just know that within 5 posts there will be at least one person posting hate-filled comments and pictures to discredit the stadium and the team. And this thread is no different. In fact, the only thing that has surprised me so far in this thread is the absence of BuBomb adding his crap to the pile.

Lets try and focus on the actual stadium itself, which, although not particularly impressive, still has a large capacity, good history and a decent atmosphere. Is there plans for an extension or updating of the stadium, or has that already been done recently?

:cheers:

Why is it that every single 'Celtic' or 'Rangers' or 'Celtic vs Rangers' thread ends up being a magnet for every pathetic, bickering Scottish idiot this side of the Atlantic?

I think it's probably becasue Scotland only has two half-decent, well-known football clubs, so naturally its the only real rivalry available for people to fight about.

English football-and Spanish for that matter-has many many top class rivalries for many different reasons (Man U v Liverpool, Man U v Man City, Bolton v Arsenal, Arsenal v Chelsea, Liverpool v Everton, Man U v Arsenal...etc etc etc) and each one is bitter, intense, passionate and always exciting, that's why everyone loves them, no matter which club they support. But when it comes to Celtic and Rangers, the rivalry isn't healthy and lively, it's just an excuse to bitch, whine, fight, punch and bicker with eachother. And I've gotta say, from an outsider's p.o.v, it's just really lame!
It's no wonder Scotland's football repuation is so low, if the game itself takes backseat to the non-snesical, irrelevant little disputes between the clubs playing. And from what I've heard, those people who don't support Rangers or Celtic in Scotland are just as fed up with them as everyone else. They're bringing down the whole Scottish league imo.

There's even a section on wikipedia about this over-wraught rivalry:

"The competition between the two clubs has its roots in more than just a simple athletic rivalry. It is infused with a series of complex disputes centred on religion (Catholic and Protestant) and Northern Ireland politics. The result has been an enduring enmity between fans that has extended beyond the kind of intra-city footballing rivalry that might be expected in situations where two clubs dominate a country's footballing scene. This has been manifested in a history laden with sectarian violence, sometimes leading to deaths.
Increasingly in recent years, both clubs have frequently participated in initiatives and campaigns along with religious organisations and the Scottish Executive directed at removing the sectarian undercurrent, including supporting pressure group Nil by Mouth. However, disagreements about what constitutes sectarian behaviour have undermined progress in these matters, and consensus over what types of songs and flags are acceptable remains difficult to achieve."

^^ Arguing over what types of songs and flags are acceptable... :ohno:

"Both Celtic and Rangers have expressed a desire to leave the Scottish league system and become part of the English Premiership. Both clubs currently receive less in television revenue than many English clubs with smaller fan bases. A move to the Premiership would give both Old Firm clubs a significant financial boost...."
"...Reports have suggested that Premiership clubs voted 20 - 0 in 2004 to reject the Old Firm's admission to the Premiership"

^^ It is no surprise to find that no-one wants these war-mongering clubs in the English Premier league, I mean, who wants to travel all the way to Scotland to play against a team who's supporters are more interested in slagging off and fighting the opposition's supporters then watching the actual match. We don't need this whole Rangers/Celtic crap bringing down the standards of the Premiership!

In threads about Arsenal's new sadium ,or Liverpool's, or Man United's extension etc there are plenty of people from different areas of the country, who support the rivals of the team in question, who manage to give compliments about how the new stadium will look, and it is generally broad-minded and rational, but as soon as you see a thread about Ranger's or Celtic's stadium, you just know that within 5 posts there will be at least one person posting hate-filled comments and pictures to discredit the stadium and the team. And this thread is no different. In fact, the only thing that has surprised me so far in this thread is the absence of BuBomb adding his crap to the pile.

Lets try and focus on the actual stadium itself, which, although not particularly impressive, still has a large capacity, good history and a decent atmosphere. Is there plans for an extension or updating of the stadium, or has that already been done recently?

:cheers:


You've obviously not been to a Hearts v Hibs game!! Now that's a real man's derby!! :colgate:

^^ ah Bubomb, there you are, now the package is compete ;)

:cheers:

It looks a lot better from the inside then it does the outside:
http://www.masterseries.co.uk/NewWebPics/celtic.jpg

http://www.rainbowhearts.co.uk/Images/CelticPark.jpg

Not the greatest looking desgin for a stadium, but the inside makes up for it.

:cheers:

When are they going to finish it off? :)

i liked this one :

http://i1.tinypic.com/mi14lj.jpg

That is an appalling thing to post. You should be ashamed of yourself.

As I said there seems to be a proliferation of Scottish white trash on these boards at the moment

^^ BuBomb, are your ears burning? ;)

:cheers:

^^ BuBomb, are your ears burning? ;)

:cheers:

He can't be talking about me as I have avoided this thread due to the fact that i'm only interested in decent stadiums!!

Bubomb, what would you give parkhead if you were to rate it out of 10?

Bubomb, what would you give parkhead if you were to rate it out of 10?

Five

That is an appalling thing to post. You should be ashamed of yourself.


why's that then?

celtic park = kwik save
Old Trafford = Marks & Spencer

sellic park is just a big, cheap, plastic place. It has NO class and is ALREADY out-dated :rofl:

Celtic Park is like Old Trafford with green seats. Both big, ugly lop sided eyesores.

If celtic park = kwik save
then
old trafford = somerfield

Celtic Park is like Old Trafford with green seats. Both big, ugly lop sided eyesores.

If celtic park = kwik save
then
old trafford = somerfield

Why did u have to dig up this thread, weren't there enough arguments before, as there always is when concerning celtic and rangers.

btw Old Trafford is a 5 star stadium, somerfield? :weirdo:

btw Old Trafford is a 5 star stadium, somerfield? :weirdo:

A five-star stadium like Celtic Park then.

http://www.uefa.com/magazine/news/Kind=128/newsId=18479.html

A five-star stadium like Celtic Park then.

http://www.uefa.com/magazine/news/Kind=128/newsId=18479.html

go look at the two stadiums, there is a massive difference, OT isn't falling apart like celtic park; 'Paradise'? :rofl:

http://i1.tinypic.com/xbn400.jpg

go look at the two stadiums, there is a massive difference, OT isn't falling apart like celtic park; 'Paradise'? :rofl:

Take it up with UEFA. It's them that decides and it's their website that says Celtic Park is a five-star stadium.

The stadium is ok, but the surrounding area is a shithole straight out of the 1970's....

even the inside of the stadium(by this i don't mean the seating area) is crap

The stadium is ok, but the surrounding area is a shithole straight out of the 1970's....

The surrounding area is effectively flattened now. Most of the surrounding housing left is high-quality 100-year-old tenement flats.

The area is also the focus of a huge regeneration scheme based around Glasgow's commonwealth games bid. In a few years time the area will be very good.

The surrounding area is effectively flattened now. Most of the surrounding housing left is high-quality 100-year-old tenement flats.

The area is also the focus of a huge regeneration scheme based around Glasgow's commonwealth games bid. In a few years time the area will be very good.


erm, the surrounding area is an even bigger shit hole than it was before. Junkies, tramps and the barras. An utter laughable selection of Republican slophouses complete one of the worst slums in Europe!!

even if they build new flats, it will be the same scum who live in them. You can take the scum out the east end, but you can't take the east end out the scum. In 20 years, those new flats would be run down Republican hell holes!!

A five-star stadium like Celtic Park then.

http://www.uefa.com/magazine/news/Kind=128/newsId=18479.html

Whoever wrote the article for UEFA made a mistake. Celtic Park has no stars as it is cheap rubbish!!

You don't get 5 stars for this -

http://stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionguides/schottland/celtic_park/images/haupt_03.jpg

http://stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionguides/schottland/celtic_park/images/aussen_16.jpg

http://stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionguides/schottland/celtic_park/images/innen_06.jpg

Twickenham is much better than Murrayfield.

http://www.sportinglife.com/pictures/general/allsportgeneralviewtwickenham.jpg
Twickenham


http://www.ukattraction.com/edinburgh+lothian/murrayfield-stadium-tours.jpg
Murrayfield


Look at that pointless 8 lane running straight at Murrayfield, plus the place just looks drab. As opposed to Twickers, seats close to the action, stands look well maintained, and a higer capacity.



Oh, I'm sorry is this the wrong thread to discuss this? :jk:

The stands at Murrayfield are also well maintained. Did you think people shat in the stands and the stadium owners just left it there??? Not as good as Twickers (Jolly good show old bean), but still a nice stadium as seen by the pics in this thread -

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=311844

I would say Murrayfield has a nicer exterior.

The stands at Murrayfield are also well maintained. Did you think people shat in the stands and the stadium owners just left it there??? Not as good as Twickers (Jolly good show old bean), but still a nice stadium as seen by the pics in this thread -

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=311844

I would say Murrayfield has a nicer exterior.

According to Its AlL gUUd no one cares about the exterior.

According to Its AlL gUUd no one cares about the exterior.

OMG Socrates! u spill over discussions from one thread into another, btw i think the exterior is not that important but obviously you do believe its important with your facade n all. Fine Leave it at that.

OMG Socrates! u spill over discussions from one thread into another, btw i think the exterior is not that important but obviously you do believe its important with your facade n all. Fine Leave it at that.
Not only that, I've even made a new thread about it. Looking forward to reading your comments!

What in your opinion is the most important aspect in a stadium? (http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=347774)

Some pictures of Celtic Park. Hope you all like.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/topcat67/104NIKON-DSCN0631_DSCN0631.jpg
http://tinypic.com/imi1l1.jpg
http://tinypic.com/imi238.jpg

Theres a side missing. Can you post a pic or two of it?

Do celtic have the cash to redevelop the main stand?

Theres a side missing. Can you post a pic or two of it?

You seem to post it in just about every second thread so there's no need.

asdfg are u a celtic supporter then?

Do celtic have the cash to redevelop the main stand?

I'm sure they could get a loan to pay for a replacement stand, so the short answer is yes. However, since that would put Celtic further into debt then it's probably not a good idea at this time.

asdfg are u a celtic supporter then?

Yes.

I'm sure they could get a loan to pay for a replacement stand, so the short answer is yes. However, since that would put Celtic further into debt then it's probably not a good idea at this time.
Its not a good idea because

a. you'd never fill it anyway
b. the whole stadium will need to be replaced sooner rather than later anyway, so rebuilding the only safe part is a no-no.

Its not a good idea because

a. you'd never fill it anyway
b. the whole stadium will need to be replaced sooner rather than later anyway, so rebuilding the only safe part is a no-no.

a. i would've thought they would fill it(well mostly)
b. would celtic be able to relocate then?

a. i would've thought they would fill it(well mostly)
b. would celtic be able to relocate then?

Socrates is making things up.

We would fill a 75-80,000 capacity stadium. Maybe not for matches against Inverness Caley Thistle but certainly in games against the top teams in Scotland like Hearts and European matches. Probably even in matches against lower diddy Scottish teams like Rangers.

With regards his "whole stadium needing replaced soon" comments, just disregard. Total bollocks.

We would fill a 75-80,000 capacity stadium. Maybe not for matches against Inverness Caley Thistle but certainly in games against the top teams in Scotland like Hearts and European matches. Probably even in matches against lower diddy Scottish teams like Rangers.


:rofl:

You IAG would do well to remember this conversation the next time you lambast me or anyone else for talking about Rangers.

But I will not allow this thread to go too far off topic: quoting my knowledgable but absent colleague Iggybumtastic, Parkhead is a "cheap rubbish stadium for cheap rubbish people".

Evidence of this, and of the need to replace the stadium sooner rather than later: the stadium requires 2 safety certificates to be granted every year.
And if the mhanks could fill 75,000 or 80,000 seats, the penny pinching board would have built a stadium that would have allowed this.
As for relocating: there is no cheaper wasteground to be had in Glasgow than Parkhead, so relocating could not happen either.

You IAG would do well to remember this conversation the next time you lambast me or anyone else for talking about Rangers.

This is a thread about Celtic Park. I have hardly strayed off topic. You and your idiotic buddy, on the other hand, seem to spam every second thread with pictures of the incredibly unimpressive Ibrox.

But I will not allow this thread to go too far off topic:

What part went off topic?

quoting my knowledgable but absent colleague Iggybumtastic, Parkhead is a "cheap rubbish stadium for cheap rubbish people".

Explain how the stadium is for "cheap rubbish people" please?

Evidence of this, and of the need to replace the stadium sooner rather than later: the stadium requires 2 safety certificates to be granted every year.
And if the mhanks could fill 75,000 or 80,000 seats, the penny pinching board would have built a stadium that would have allowed this.

That made no sense at all.

Explain how the stadium is for "cheap rubbish people" please?.
I was quoting a colleague, so you would be better to ask him. Although I did think it was pretty obvious.


That made no sense at all.
Yes, it did. Porkheed needs regular safety checks to ensure it isn't about to fall down. Without these regular safety certificates issued, games could not be played there.

An increased capacity would mean extra revenue if the seats were filled. The Celtic Board is famous for being stingy (as well as other things), and so they would not cut off additional revenue streams if they were available.

Does that make sense now, or do you want me to break it down even further?

I was quoting a colleague, so you would be better to ask him. Although I did think it was pretty obvious.

No it's not obvious. But since it is for you, I'm sure you won't have any difficulty letting us know your interpretation of why Celtic fans are apparently "cheap rubbish".

Yes, it did. Porkheed needs regular safety checks to ensure it isn't about to fall down. Without these regular safety certificates issued, games could not be played there.

Evidence of this?

An increased capacity would mean extra revenue if the seats were filled. The Celtic Board is famous for being stingy (as well as other things), and so they would not cut off additional revenue streams if they were available.

It's not quite as simple as that. A new stand may take 20 years to pay for itself and the board may not have wanted to increase the club's debt (and thus interest payments) any further during that time.

Fergus McCann built Parkhead to make himself money. No other reason. It was thrown up in about 3 weeks and was not built to last.

And heres the man himself.

http://i3.tinypic.com/xerer8.jpg

Fergus McCann built Parkhead to make himself money. No other reason. It was thrown up in about 3 weeks and was not built to last.

Now this is what you call a squirm of epic proportions.

You obviously can't answer my points or backup your claims with evidence.

Too easy. :)

Now this is what you call a squirm of epic proportions.

You obviously can't answer my points or backup your claims with evidence.

Too easy. :)

Points (plural?). Na, I will get your evidence in due course, but I've got a lot on right now, and MOTD is on. I'll have it as soon as I have time to look for it.

You IAG would do well to remember this conversation the next time you lambast me or anyone else for talking about Rangers.


err i have not mentioned that team, you however did with this post

err i have not mentioned that team, you however did with this post
You quoted a post that mentioned this team.


Edit: my 350th post! 350 posts of pure gold :)

I thought the main stand at Parkhead was listed and this is the reason it has not been redeveloped.

I thought the main stand at Parkhead was listed and this is the reason it has not been redeveloped.

This dull, uninspiring piece of 60s slough office-building garbage is in fact a listed building for some reason. A second tier could be added at a cost, but the Celtic board is far too tight fisted to do it.
http://img203.echo.cx/img203/830/4g6sm05wc.jpg

But, as mentioned, there are other reasons why this "main" stand will remain as it is.

This is another myth started by celtic fans because they are jealous that Ibrox is a listed building. The main stand at Celtic Park is NOT listed, why would it be???

In the link below, you will find every listed building in Scotland, including Ibrox. You will not find anything relating to Celtic Park.

http://www.historic-scotland.gov.uk/listedbuildings

Fergus McCann built celtic park as cheaply as possible. £31 million for the whole thing, unbelievably cheap for 60000 seats (9000 seats were already there due to the main stand). They even put 14 roof supports in the North Stand to save a measly £1 million in steelwork (Simon Inglis confirms this in his last stadium book). Fergus McCann done this as his aim was to make as big a profit as possible when he left celtic, which he was honest enough to say was his aim from day one. I would be surprised if the stadium lasts another 15 years.

Celtic's average attendance this year was 58150, which is over 2500 below their capacity. They only got 48000 for the last game of the season. They do not need a bigger ground, as only European games and old-firm games would sell out. You can buy public sale tickets for nearly every celtic game every season. Percentage why this season, Ibrox was 98.1% full for league games and Celtic Park was 95.3% full for league games.

This dull, uninspiring piece of 60s slough office-building garbage is in fact a listed building for some reason. A second tier could be added at a cost, but the Celtic board is far too tight fisted to do it.
http://img203.echo.cx/img203/830/4g6sm05wc.jpg

But, as mentioned, there are other reasons why this "main" stand will remain as it is.

i never realised how bad the exterior of parkhead was, that main stand reminds me of a office building i know

Some more pictures, hope you all like:

The old Celtic Park:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c77/Lennox_1967/CelticPark1981.jpg

Old Celtic Park again:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/kerrydale/cp_c1988.jpg

The really old stadium:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/cp_1935_01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/cp_1935_03.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/cp_1935_02.jpg

The crappy current Main stand:
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6995/untitled8ue.png

Another stand can be seen in the background:
http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/9521/39827657356rx.jpg

More pictures of when the modern stadium was being developed:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/cp_bunnet.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/CPplans2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/CPplans1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/kerrydale/cp_underconstruc01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/kerrydale/cp_the_new_road.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/kerrydale/cp_underconstruc.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/kerrydale/cp_1995.jpg

Jock Stein stand during construction:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/kerrydale/cp_9may98_01.jpg

Celebrating another league championship win (I'm somewhere in the middle):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/kerrydale/cp_9may98_02.jpg

Current stadium:
http://tinypic.com/jt9mdw.jpg

http://tinypic.com/jt9mwj.jpg

http://tinypic.com/juz61w.jpg

http://tinypic.com/juz6l2.jpg

I'm sorry, but it just looks like an absolute crud bucket. No offense intended though.

I'm sorry, but it just looks like an absolute crud bucket. No offense intended though.

Apology accepted.

According to http://www.scottishgroundguide.co.uk/ , the Main Stand is listed, though by reading the description the piece ws obviously written by a celtic fan on a borrowed or stolen computer.

If this is indeed a lie, (and it wouldn't surprise me, after all the previous lies and cover ups that have been associated with the club), then Celtic fans have proved themselves petty beyond belief.

Just check the link. Ibrox is in it, not celtic park though. It is a government website, so they are not going to be biased. I'm afraid the tarriers have been up to their old tricks again!!

http://www.historic-scotland.gov.uk/listedbuildings

Thank fuck it's not listed because the building is utter pish. Means we can flatten it whenever we like and build a new super-duper three-tier main stand which would give Celtic Park a 90,000+ capacity! Exciting stuff!

Celtic Park a 90,000+ capacity! Exciting stuff!


meanwhile, back on planet earth.........

...back on planet earth, a celtic fan role plays as his hero:

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/69/2610/320/counterstrike.jpg

Interesting pics asdfg

...back on planet earth, a celtic fan role plays as his hero:

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/69/2610/320/counterstrike.jpg

was there a need to post this?

Great Stadium

cockrates?


:lol:

Great Stadium
http://i2.tinypic.com/xgdyk5.jpg

According to http://www.scottishgroundguide.co.uk/ , the Main Stand is listed, though by reading the description the piece ws obviously written by a celtic fan on a borrowed or stolen computer.

:lol:

never been to parkhead myself but it looks really dodgy from the outside and, even though the redevelopments on the inside look huge and imposing, the roof supports really do make it look a bit dated.

by comparison the outside of ibrox is absolute class. the best in british football.

form is temporary, class is permanent.

GB 1 v 0 IRE.

...back on planet earth, a celtic fan role plays as his hero:

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/69/2610/320/counterstrike.jpg


video of celtic players singing IRA songs -

http://www.zippyvideos.com/8119373393024966/movie/

http://media.putfile.com/Bhoys


Do you know that the head of the official celtic supporters group who painted 'a big jock' banner is an ira terrorist!! Celtic like to keep that one quiet!!


"THE BARE FACTS

Celtic fans were talking about how the Stein banner was painted by a former IRA prisoner called Danny Devenny who was shot four times resisting arrest during a bungled bank robbery. There’s plenty of info about Danny Bhoy on the internet if you care to look. And the Scottish media all know it is there.
The banner was paid for - “we paid him enough he can retire on it” - by The Jungle Bhoys - a group recognised and approved by Celtic FC to organise fan displays at Parkhead.
The Jungle Bhoys feature in all organs of Celtic FC - CelticTV, Celtic View, celticfc.net.
Devenny openly admits to painting the banner. The Jungle Bhoys officials initially denied they knew who painted the banner they paid several grand for! Initially they claimed it was “an unknown Scottish artist who doesn’t want to be identified in case it harms his career.” Then they claimed they got “someone who knew an artist” to get it done. Oh well, I’m sure everyone getting a banner done just hands over the cash to someone they meet in the street and hopes for the best without asking for the name of the artist and seeing samples of his work.
No doubt they’d have been horrified to see the wall murals Devenny does glorifying the IRA death squads in Belfast?"

More pictures of Celtic Park before this thread gets hijacked by the trolls...

North-east stand:
http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/3435/mon0dn.jpg

Main stand (taken on whitewash sunday):
http://tinypic.com/k3lrmc.jpg

North stand (whitewash sunday again):
http://tinypic.com/k3lug5.jpg

http://tinypic.com/k3lvls.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/bolesybhoy/ChampsLeague.jpg

Old stadium:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/CPold.jpg

East stand:
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/707/keanodisplay5fu.jpg

Old pictures:
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6241/dannytest19804pj.jpg

Trophy room in 1967:
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3039/trophies19675ad.jpg

Outside of North stand before redevelopment:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/kerrydale/janefieldst_1994s.jpg

Modern panorama:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/kerrydale/Celtic_Park_inside.jpg

1963:
http://x11.putfile.com/3/8906194529.jpg

Main stand:
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6995/untitled8ue.png

Wee Jinky - self confessed alcoholic and wife beater, but let's all ignore that because he was good at football.

Wee Jinky loved a drinky!!


http://x12.putfile.com/1/1111230250.jpg

by comparison the outside of ibrox is absolute class. the best in british football.

Wow. I'm really jealous. I wish the.... err... outside of my stadium was as nice as Ibrox. LOL.

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/707/keanodisplay5fu.jpg

^^ I wonder why the Celtic supporters never do this type of display for Scottish internationals they sign, or even international players form anywhere other than Ireland?

I'll never understand why so many of the Celtic support wish they were Irish. Ireland for the most part doesn't give a shit about Celtic, yet Ireland is loved to death by the great unwashed.

I'll never understand why so many of the Celtic support wish they were Irish. Ireland for the most part doesn't give a shit about Celtic, yet Ireland is loved to death by the great unwashed.

Your off-topic trolling really is tiresome.

:sleepy:

The interior of Ibrox is also a thousand times better

Ibrox -

http://photos.***************/wertp/stadiumpictures/large/Marble%20Staircase.jpg

http://stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionguides/schottland/ibrox_stadium/images/Ibrox_c2_01.jpg

San Giro -

http://stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionguides/schottland/celtic_park/images/innen_05.jpg


Ibrox main stand -

http://stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionguides/schottland/ibrox_stadium/images/Ibrox_c_21.jpg

http://stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionguides/schottland/ibrox_stadium/images/Ibrox_c_01.jpg

San Giro main stand -

http://stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionguides/schottland/celtic_park/images/haupt_03.jpg

Spot the difference -

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/707/keanodisplay5fu.jpg

http://www.rangersmedia.com/album/dcrsc/photo16.jpg

The key point is that I'd still much rather have Celtic Park than Ibrox. The imposing stands, superior atmosphere and 10,000 extra seats are all reasons why Celtic Park is a better stadium than Ibrox. Not to mention the ease with which the stadium's capacity could be upgraded.

Anyway, the only reason Ibrox has its old-fashioned style (which some weirdos claim to prefer... I don't believe them though) is because it was redeveloped in the 70s and 80s due to the fact the Rangers board were forced to act after two serious disasters in the ground.

Celtic Park and Ibrox are both bog standard stadia.

The key point is that I'd still much rather have Celtic Park than Ibrox. The imposing stands, superior atmosphere and 10,000 extra seats are all reasons why Celtic Park is a better stadium than Ibrox. Not to mention the ease with which the stadium's capacity could be upgraded.

Anyway, the only reason Ibrox has its old-fashioned style (which some weirdos claim to prefer... I don't believe them though) is because it was redeveloped in the 70s and 80s due to the fact the Rangers board were forced to act after two serious disasters in the ground.

I suggest you check your facts. The Rangers board acted after one disaster in 1971. The previous disaster was in 1902 and so was not at all related to the 1971 disaster as that was a different stadium design and different board 69 years earlier.

2nd of all, The Rangers board were not at all forced to act. The acted on their own accord in the interests of their fans, and actually risked the clubs future by spending, at the time, an unbelievable amount of money on a new stadium. This redevelopment set a new standard in British stadiums and shaped the future of British stadiums. The Taylor Report referred to Ibrox as the safe model of stadium that all British clubs should look to. No government law or body forced the Rangers board to redevelop Ibrox, and nobody expected the Rangers board to redevelop Ibrox. The massive redevelopment came as a huge shock to Scottish football. If Rangers had been forced to act, then all other clubs in Scotland would of had to have rebuilt their stadiums, as all stadiums in Scotland at the time were overcrowded and unsafe.

The Victorian style main stand that most people love was not built in the 70's/80's, but was built in 1929 and redeveloped with a 3rd tier/interior upgrades and new roof in 1991. The main stand redevelopment cost £20 million as it was such a high quality upgrade. This is not far off what celtic spent on the whole of their cheap 60000 stadium!!

£2 million will be spent this summer adding 800 leather seats and a massive bar complex to the Govan stand.

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/707/keanodisplay5fu.jpg

^^ I wonder why the Celtic supporters never do this type of display for Scottish internationals they sign, or even international players form anywhere other than Ireland?

I'll never understand why so many of the Celtic support wish they were Irish. Ireland for the most part doesn't give a shit about Celtic, yet Ireland is loved to death by the great unwashed.

i have to agree with this, it really gets to me that Celtic have a lot of Irish wanabes(although they can do whateva) but their club is a Scottish club playing in scotland, you are not irish get over it.

Not displaying a sottish flag is up to them but to replace it with a foreign one is just ridiculous, i wonder how the fans would feel if celtic started playing in the Irish league, how great will celtic be then.

http://www.rangersmedia.com/album/dcrsc/photo16.jpg

This represents scotland :applause:

Celtic do have Irish roots, so there is nothing wrong with the odd Ireland flag. As they are a Scottish club who have played in Scotland for over 100 years, you would expect maybe an Ireland flag for every 20 Scotland flags, but they have got it the wrong way around. For every Scotland flag there is about 100 Ireland flags.

You will be amazed at the amount of celtic fans born and raised in Scotland, went to Scottish schools, have jobs in Scotland, have parents born and raised in Scotland, have grandparents born and raised in Scotland......yet these fools still class themselves as Irish and not Scottish because their great great grandparents came to Scotland from Ireland!! They have basically failed to integrate into Scottish society even though they have had well over 100 years to do so!!! They even set up their own catholic schools so that they don't have to mix with normal Scottish children in normal Scottish non-religious schools!! I wish they would all fuck off back to Ireland!!

More pictures of Celtic Park before this thread gets hijacked by the trolls...

Great pics. No wonder why OT and Celtic Park are the two most famous club stadiums in Britain & Ireland.

Go back to your shitty quads paddy. Nobody gives a shit what stadiums are famous in Potatoland!

http://www.rangersmedia.com/album/dcrsc/photo16.jpg

^ i've said it before and i'll say it again - that is one of the best displays of fan patriotism i've ever seen. brilliant. i salute you, the people!

Go back to your shitty quads paddy. Nobody gives a shit what stadiums are famous in Potatoland!

Nobody gave a shit about your mother, they still paid though

At least they paid, your maw was free!!

^ i've said it before and i'll say it again - that is one of the best displays of fan patriotism i've ever seen. brilliant. i salute you, the people!

Rangers fans appreciate your kind words. Cheers.

At least they paid, your maw was free!!

gotta hand it to you, classic comeback....

but still if you don't like Celtic Park, then leave the thread to die out instead of bashing it, and it's fans.

I know you lot hate each other (and the english & irish) but just leave it out of a neutral forum

ok, I will never mention celtic park again.

ok, I will never mention celtic park again.

yeah, good one :hahaha:

I am a man of my word. I willl not mention those words again.



although you must admit Parkhead is a really shit stadium!

I am a man of my word. I willl not mention those words again.



although you must admit Parkhead is a really shit stadium!

i agree to a certain extent, looks great in the seating area (apart from the main stand), rest leaves much to be desired.

Now that Socrates and his special friend are banned hopefully we can continue in peace.

Some more pictures, hope you all like:

The old Celtic Park:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c77/Lennox_1967/CelticPark1981.jpg

Old Celtic Park again:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/kerrydale/cp_c1988.jpg

The really old stadium:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/cp_1935_01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/cp_1935_03.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/cp_1935_02.jpg

The crappy current Main stand:
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6995/untitled8ue.png

Another stand can be seen in the background:
http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/9521/39827657356rx.jpg

Pictures from pre-trolling promoted to end....

More pictures of when the modern stadium was being developed:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/cp_bunnet.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/CPplans2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/CPplans1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/kerrydale/cp_underconstruc01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/kerrydale/cp_the_new_road.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/kerrydale/cp_underconstruc.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/kerrydale/cp_1995.jpg

From a archetecture point of view, Parkhead isn't a great stadium. Not only is it the poor mainstand, it's the fact that the newer areas of the stadium have pillar supports to the roof, leading to poor views from certain areas within the stadium. Given when the stadium was redone, and the extend to which the renovations were, there is little excuse for this, other than that it was cheaper. On those grounds alone, anyone with any interest in archetecture should admit that Ibrox is a better stadium. 100% unrestricted views see to that. Atmosphere is something a little bit different.


As for the "politics", anyone that even tries to get into that issue is clearly an intellectual fucktard who should be ignored and prevented from having children.

Actually, the Ibrox main stand 2nd tier has 4 supports helping to hold up the 3rd tier. This was unavoidable as the whole main structure is 80 years old, and the only way to add a 3rd tier without changing the 80 year old Victorian facade and Victorian interiors was to use 4 supports to help take the weight of the 3rd tier, as the 3rd tier had to almost completely overhang the 2nd tier due to 80 year old structure/design of the stand. By using 4 supports, it meant the amazing facade and interiors were not compromised. It was nothing to do with money, as no money was spared on the redevelopment of the Ibrox main stand. The only way to have the main stand column free would have been to completely tear it down and rebuild it, and obviously this wasn't an option for such a fine structure. These are the only 4 columns in the whole Ibrox stadium.

Parkhead has 18 very large columns, including 14 in their new North stand, which were put in place to save a measly £1 million in steelwork. Their main stand has 4 roof supports (two of them are absolutely massive) that makes the games a nightmare for away fans. If you check Scottish football fan forums, you will see nearly all away fans hate parkhead as their views of the game are massively restricted in the stadium by these roof supports. The picture below shows the away fan area -


http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3134/haupt034mb.jpg


It's not much better for celtic fans in the North stand, although at least the supports blocking their view are slimmer than the massive ones blocking the view of the away fans -


http://stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionguides/schottland/celtic_park/images/gegen_06.jpg

Pictures from pre-trolling promoted to end....
You've posted the same crappy pictures a million times now, I think we get the point. Stop spamming.
Anyway, this one here is actually fairly impressive:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/kerrydale/cp_1995.jpg
However I have seen more recent photos from the same angle where the stand appears to be filthy and show it clearly has not aged well.

Of course it will be filthy, it is used by celtic fans every fortnight!!

Manchester will be wrecked by tomorrow.

Hi Socrates.... oops I mean Tyler.

Hi Socrates.... oops I mean Tyler.

You must love those guys, had a couple of ding dongs with them myself as well, nice guys(well thats subjective) but a bit over the top, probably a bit bitter from their season

You must love those guys, had a couple of ding dongs with them myself as well, nice guys(well thats subjective) but a bit over the top, probably a bit bitter from their season
You can't win every trophy every year. :)

You can't win every trophy every year. :)

oh, your back, heres hoping for you to stay longer then before

KEANO!!! THERES ONLY ONE KEANO!!! We love United we do! We love United we do! We love United we do! Ohhh UNITED we love you!!

McManus is a thug and one day he will end someones career.

It won't be long until Celtic Park looks like this

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e275/Canting/minIMG_0591.jpg

Tis a vast improvement in my opinion.

the IRA training camp won't last long!!

Here's all the bomb throwers heading off to Manchester -


http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1746/xni8wi7cu.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/2197207.stm

"Radio Five Live's Fergus Sweeney has paid homage to Celtic Park after the Scottish football champions' ground was voted the UK's favourite sporting venue. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/2197207.stm

"Radio Five Live's Fergus Sweeney has paid homage to Celtic Park after the Scottish football champions' ground was voted the UK's favourite sporting venue. "

by celtic fans!! self-praise means nothing. You are the kings of self poll voting!!

^^ U and the other guy, should post some constructive criticism about celtic park not just a pile of rubble, however funny it might be

"Particularly on European nights, it is a fantastic experience," said the 31-year-old Neil Lennon, who previously experienced England's top grounds while playing with Leicester City.

"My first Champions League game last season was against Porto and, when they lifted up the Champions League flag, the noise was just something else.

"The hairs on the back of my neck were standing up.

"60,000 people singing and lifting their scarves up. I just thought ' this is surreal'."

Here's all the bomb throwers heading off to Manchester -


http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1746/xni8wi7cu.jpg
:hahaha:

More pictures of when the modern stadium was being developed:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/cp_bunnet.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/CPplans2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/CPplans1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/kerrydale/cp_underconstruc01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/kerrydale/cp_the_new_road.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/kerrydale/cp_underconstruc.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/kerrydale/cp_1995.jpg

..........

:hahaha: ^^ U and the other guy, should post some constructive criticism about celtic park not just a pile of rubble, however funny it might be
The other guy :hahaha:

Why are you quoting the same horrible pictures again and again you stupid boy?

And whats this all about?

http://i4.tinypic.com/10f7yg4.jpg

name calling? don't you think thats a bit immature "the other guy"?

"Particularly on European nights, it is a fantastic experience," said the 31-year-old Neil Lennon, who previously experienced England's top grounds while playing with Leicester City.

"My first Champions League game last season was against Porto and, when they lifted up the Champions League flag, the noise was just something else.

"The hairs on the back of my neck were standing up.

"60,000 people singing and lifting their scarves up. I just thought ' this is surreal'."


Neil Lennon, celtic captain, and life long celtic fan, loves Parkhead........what a shocker!!!

The Scottish National Sports agency is being relocated right next to Celtic Park. The headquarters of SportScotland will be in the new national indoor sports arena which will be built on the doorstep of Celtic Park.

http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/en/News/sportscotlandrelocation.htm

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/james73/cp_bunnet.jpg


That drawing looks far better than the actual midden that was built!! Shame they changed the design!

A new rail station is being built at Parkhead. Should be very helpful for getting to Celtic Park from Glasgow city centre.

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/hi/news/5052449.html

And whats this all about?

http://i4.tinypic.com/10f7yg4.jpg


There is a large number of IRA killers in that stadium every 2nd week!

Here's a video from Glasgow's Commonwealth Games 2014 bid. The athlete's village and most of the new sporting venues are being built right next to Celtic Park.

http://www.glasgow2014.com/ourbid/video-venue.html

http://i4.tinypic.com/10f8a5c.jpg

The author is clearly a moron.... I mean they can't even spell "minister".

What was it published in by the way?

Im pretty surprised the SFA have let this go on for so long, i don't mean to take sides but "best fans in the world" don't think so.

The author is clearly a moron.... I mean they can't even spell "minister".

What was it published in by the way?
Obviously not one of the many 'celtic minded' rags of which we have plenty.

1 typo does not make you a moron btw. Glorifying terrorism does however.

The author is clearly a moron.... I mean they can't even spell "minister".

What was it published in by the way?

Spelling mistake or not (obviously a misprint, not a spelling mistake), everybody in Scotland watching Setanta TV heard the MAJORITY of your away fans at Tynecastle singing IRA songs. You can't hide the truth!! We all heard it!


Even Celtic chief executive Peter Lawwell admits it -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/4982304.stm

Can you two pricks Bubomb and Socrates please get to fuck.

You two utter cunts are ruining this forum. You are the root of all problems in this forum. I have been posting news about Celtic Park and you two selfish wankers spam it with insults about Celtic and Celtic fans.

Even if all Celtic fans are members of the Provisional IRA, it's got NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS FORUM AT ALL. This forum is about discussing stadiums, and this particular thread is about Celtic Park.

The pair of you are an utter disgrace and are ruining what could be a fantastic source of information about stadia. If you have a passion for stadia (as you would no doubt claim), then do the decent thing and either fuck off or at least stop constantly trolling the forum with irrelevant crap.

What exactly did the Celtic fans sing at Tynecastle that was so bad?

Can you two pricks Bubomb and Socrates please get to fuck.

You two utter cunts are ruining this forum. You are the root of all problems in this forum. I have been posting news about Celtic Park and you two selfish wankers spam it with insults about Celtic and Celtic fans.

Even if all Celtic fans are members of the Provisional IRA, it's got NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS FORUM AT ALL. This forum is about discussing stadiums, and this particular thread is about Celtic Park.

The pair of you are an utter disgrace and are ruining what could be a fantastic source of information about stadia. If you have a passion for stadia (as you would no doubt claim), then do the decent thing and either fuck off or at least stop constantly trolling the forum with irrelevant crap.

good rant, they finally cracked you.

I agree with that bold word

What exactly did the Celtic fans sing at Tynecastle that was so bad?

Just the usual small minority of morons who shout "IRA" whilst singing.

Just the usual small minority of morons who shout "IRA" whilst singing.
Minority my arse.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/4982304.stm

Listen to how loud this is, 2minutes in

http://www.bolt.com/fatfink/video/817200?cn=STREAM_fatfink_video_large_PAGE1



Turned my stomach, even though I hear it on TV all the time whenever Celtic are playing away from home.

Turned my stomach, even though I hear it on TV all the time whenever Celtic are playing away from home.

That's good. Now what does this have to do with Celtic Park?

What exactly did the Celtic fans sing at Tynecastle that was so bad?


Various anti-British/pro-IRA song celebrating the murders of British soldiers, British civilians and N.Ireland Protestants. Chants of 'soon there will be no Protestants at all' were heard for 90 minutes along with other vile songs/chants. They also chanted about the sectarian murders of Protestants in N.Ireland by the IRA. Chants laughing at the deaths of Protestant workmen, builders, taxi drivers, business owners, farm owners etc murdered by the IRA simply because they were Protestant. They also pretended to fire mock rifles at the Hearts crowd.

Can you two pricks Bubomb and Socrates please get to fuck.

You two utter cunts are ruining this forum. You are the root of all problems in this forum. I have been posting news about Celtic Park and you two selfish wankers spam it with insults about Celtic and Celtic fans.

Even if all Celtic fans are members of the Provisional IRA, it's got NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS FORUM AT ALL. This forum is about discussing stadiums, and this particular thread is about Celtic Park.

The pair of you are an utter disgrace and are ruining what could be a fantastic source of information about stadia. If you have a passion for stadia (as you would no doubt claim), then do the decent thing and either fuck off or at least stop constantly trolling the forum with irrelevant crap.
Totally agree with you mate - it's a shame it always seems to come to this - Celtic Supporters and neutrals alike, all being insulted and frustrated by Rangers Supporters. For more than a year now, Rangers supporters have played an instrumental part in the downfall of this subforum. God only knows why they do it, but at the end of the day, it doesn't even bother me that much anymore.

Everyone knows who the idiots in this subforum are, and as such cannot be taken seriously, regardless of what they post, be it tripe about this stadium or any other.



I've got three things for you Rangers supporters:
1)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/the_boy_david/hahahaha.jpg

Taken from www.followfollow.com , just to rub salt into the wounds


2)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/the_boy_david/Champsleague.jpg

Pot 2. Champions League. Courtesy of Henrik Larsson. Doesn't get any sweeter than that.


3)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/the_boy_david/yotp1.gif

Where's your European Cup? Ah that's right - you don't have one. Shame.

Also, http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/2197207.stm ..... where's Ibrox in this list? Can't find it anywhere? Acch well, never mind :)



Bubomb and Socrates: you have just been Owned. Now fuck off.

So you are judging millions of Rangers fans based on the fact that TWO Rangers fans post in this sub-forum????

So by your mentality, all Celtic fans are IRA supporters as on another thread in the forum there is a video of dozens of celtic fans drunk in a pub in Manchester singing IRA songs!!


As for your post, it is the ultimate troll post, no better than any pics posted by the two Rangers fans to wind-up celtic fans.....but I guess you are too thick to see the irony. Either post pics of stadiums or fuck off!!

So you are judging millions of Rangers fans based on the fact that TWO Rangers fans post in this sub-forum????

So by your mentality, all Celtic fans are IRA supporters as on another thread in the forum there is a video of dozens of celtic fans drunk in a pub in Manchester singing IRA songs!!


As for your post, it is the ultimate troll post, no better than any pics posted by the two Rangers fans to wind-up celtic fans.....but I guess you are too thick to see the irony. Either post pics of stadiums or fuck off!!
Banned already? That's a shame. Idiot.

As for me being a troll - I am no such thing. I have held my tongue on here for several months while Rangers supporters have continually bad mouthed Celtic FC and it's support, but even I have a breaking point, and this latest barrage was the spark that set me off.

As you may remember, I have posted more pictures of Celtic Park on this subforum than anyone, and have always striven to maintain a level headed debate about this and other world stadia, but I have finally been broken.


So I decided to post three simple things to silence you.

I did not at any point in my last post bring up anything about religious bigotry. That can be left in your predicably dull witted hands.

I posted three things about Celtic Football club - our league position this year, the fact that we are in the champions league, and the fact that we have won the European Cup. Now tell me, whats so trollish about that? It's incredible that in almost every post you bring up Celtic's minority support base of idiots who claim to be pro IRA, yet we never bring up any of the bigoted acts Rangers supporters commit, like, for instance, the fact that Rangers FC was brought before UEFA to be reprimanded for singing bigoted songs at a Villareal match just one month ago.

Contrast that to the fact that our supporters we were brought before UEFA and FIFA to be given the Fair Play award for our incredible support displayed all the way to the UEFA Cup final.



Anyway, you have baited me, and I have fallen for it. But I firmly believe, for the second time in less than 24 hours, you have been OWNED.

Here's a video from Glasgow's Commonwealth Games 2014 bid.

http://www.glasgow2014.com/ourbid/video-venue.html
Go Glasgow . . . Hampden as the main stadium :cheers:

btw...what cities are you up against???

Totally agree with you mate - it's a shame it always seems to come to this - Celtic Supporters and neutrals alike, all being insulted and frustrated by Rangers Supporters. It's not a coincidence that the two biggest dickheads in this forum are Rangers fans.

For more than a year now, Rangers supporters have played an instrumental part in the downfall of this subforum. God only knows why they do it, but at the end of the day, it doesn't even bother me that much anymore.It's penis envy. They are bitter about the fact that their biggest rivals have a much BIGGER stadium.

Everyone knows who the idiots in this subforum are, and as such cannot be taken seriously, regardless of what they post, be it tripe about this stadium or any other.


I've got three things for you Rangers supporters:
1)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/the_boy_david/hahahaha.jpg

Taken from www.followfollow.com , just to rub salt into the woundsLOL. Now this is my favourite. For anybody who doesn't have a lot of knowledge of Scottish football, let me clarify this for you: Rangers finishing third isn't a bit poor. It isn't disappointing. It's not even just good old fashioned bad..... IT'S APPALING. IT'S HUMILIATING. It's also hilarious. I mean finishing third in a two-horse race is pathetic beyond belief. The last time a member of the Old Firm finished below second was in about 1894 (or something). I will never tire of laughing at that league table. :)

Go Glasgow . . . Hampden as the main stadium :cheers:

btw...what cities are you up against???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Commonwealth_Games

"The last time a member of the Old Firm finished below second was in about 1894 (or something). I will never tire of laughing at that league table"

No it wasn't http://www.followfollow.com/footydb/loadlgt.asp?divno=103&ssnno=124

"The last time a member of the Old Firm finished below second was in about 1894 (or something). I will never tire of laughing at that league table"

No it wasn't http://www.followfollow.com/footydb/loadlgt.asp?divno=103&ssnno=124It's called an exaggeration.

OK, let me alter that phrase for those with a sense of humour deficiency: "The last time a member of the Old Firm finished below second was in 1995 (yes, over ten years ago)."

:rofl:

You are just big bad trolls so I am going to make big long posts to annoy you back because you are trolls (but I am not trolling)


Bubomb and Socrates: you have just been Owned. Now fuck off.

The Boy David doesn't know what trolling or irony is, it seems.

http://i4.tinypic.com/10ggvg1.jpg

It's called an exaggeration.

OK, let me alter that phrase for those with a sense of humour deficiency: "The last time a member of the Old Firm finished below second was in 1995 (yes, over ten years ago)."

:rofl:
Its called trolling.
http://i4.tinypic.com/10ggwaf.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/the_boy_david/hahahaha.jpg

:rofl:

You're trolling again you cretin.

:rofl:

Noboddy cares Socrates.


I thought you were the people...I thought you Rangers fans were the nice ones.


You've turned me into a celtic fan from a Rangers fan anyway you two have.

You must be a great fan to have then eddyk.

Noboddy cares Socrates.


I thought you were the people...I thought you Rangers fans were the nice ones.


You've turned me into a celtic fan from a Rangers fan anyway you two have.

thats similar to what i feel

I'm crying on the inside, really.