from_antipolo
October 14th, 2008, 07:25 PM
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View Full Version : Filipino Mentality: Behavior, Beliefs, Traits, and Traditions from_antipolo October 14th, 2008, 07:25 PM you're welcome po. kiretoce October 15th, 2008, 02:15 AM some one wrote this to my comment and i dont know what he/she means: pango ka daw MYX, di bale guapo ka pa rin naman. ayos lang yan. can someone translate lol please Guess no one bothered to translate that for you, so here goes.... "MYX, he said your nose is flat. It doesn't matter, you're still handsome. That's okay." kiretoce October 15th, 2008, 02:21 AM true or they will call anyone caucasian Kano, short for Amerikano. or pootie per Kiretoce. :lol: :lol: That started out with my brother-in-law (he's white) and my sister was teaching him some Tagalog words while they were still dating, and everytime he tries to say puti (meaning, white), it comes out sounding "pootie." So since then, whenever we talk about white people without giving it away in case there are some eavesdroppers nearby, we label them "pootie." ;) kiretoce October 15th, 2008, 02:24 AM By the way guys... If someone got ofended I want to apologize. I'm sorry :cry: It was not my intention. If you consider closing the thread is the best thing to do, It's OK for me. I don't think anyone here is offended. It shall remain open. icarusrising October 15th, 2008, 04:05 AM Group urges Pinoys worldwide to blog on poverty on Oct. 15 (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/127031/Group-urges-Pinoys-worldwide-to-blog-on-poverty-on-Oct-15#) Article posted October 14, 2008 - 07:47 PM MANILA, Philippines - Can blogging help eradicate poverty in the Philippines? The cyberspace group Bloggers Kapihan hopes so, urging all Filipino bloggers all over the world to join the Blog Action Day 2008 on October 15 by discussing the issue of poverty. "It may be an essay, a story on how they may once be poor or their fears about falling to the ranks of the unemployed. It may also come in the form of a video or a podcast," Bloggers Kapihan crew member and journalist Anthony Ian Cruz told GMANews.TV on Tuesday. For interested bloggers, the group has posted instructions at the Blog Action Day website. "Its a good chance to tackle poverty - its root causes, the solutions, and why we should put our heads together to have a poverty-free Philippines in the future," Cruz said. Cruz publishes a blog, tonyocruz.com, which was named best news and media blog in the 2008 Philippine Blog Awards. University of the Philippines Manila debater Benjamin Espina, another Bloggers Kapihan crew member, said: "We bloggers represent the technological intelligentsia of this generation, and events like the Blog Action Day empower us to amplify our pro-active stands and novel ideas across a wider readership. These types of activities help us capture the spotlight so let's make the most out of it by writing about causes that all people should care about, like poverty.' Espina publishes a blog, atheista.net, which won as best personal blog in the 2008 Philippine Blog Awards. Another Bloggers Kapihan crew member, Philippine Science High School instructor Martin Perez, won the award for best single blog post in the personal category. In its call to action, Bloggers Kapihan said: "Poverty is a reality that we cannot deny. We see it every day. Many live with and in it 24/7. The imperative now is to change this situation. The Blog Action Day 2008 is an opportunity to get poverty out from under the rug where the government has consigned it. We hope that through this renewed focus on poverty, it will be a new start to better understand and not hide it, to offer real solutions not fake ones, to salve the poor people's wounds and not give them doleouts." According to Cruz, the group expects "a good number" of Filipino bloggers to answer the call for poverty-related posts. "We hope to infect the so-called intelligentsia, the thinking class who are all over the web, with a concern for the plight of the numerous poor and be interested in helping solve it. The event would then hopefully spur national reflection and action on poverty." The Philippines is now known in the world for its vibrant and dynamic blogosphere, with even journalists and Catholic bishops, government officials, and opposition leaders taking on the habit. In one of the polls on social networking, Filipinos lead all Asians in blogging and in setting up social networking sites. - D'Jay Lazaro, GMANews.TV esagerato October 15th, 2008, 02:40 PM By Matt Muñoz (http://www.masbakersfield.com/home/ViewPost/68788), MÁS staff Photos by Holly Carlyle http://www.masbakersfield.com/file/picture/264100/1/0/ DELANO — Dinner at the Guerrero house is always a spicy affair. A fusion of Mexican and Filipino cuisine on any given night, this family never leaves the table unsatisfied. Enchiladas, pansit, chili rellenos, chicken adobo — and don’t forget the rice. “We always have great food,” said Gilbert Guerrero of Delano. “Our different cultures blend together every meal, sometimes with a little more kick.” But culinary specialities hailing from two nations are the beginnings of this colorful family’s mixture. The Guerreros are representative of a cultural blending that puts Latinos and Filipinos together, just like a good recipe — and it’s a formula that has been around since the days Spain ruled the Philippine Islands, right up through life nowadays in Kern County, home to thousands of Filipinos. In fact, in Delano, it’s estimated that nearly 15 percent of the city’s population — or 5,751 residents — are Filipino, according to the 2000 U.S. Census Bureau report. In Bakersfield, there are 876 Filipino households as stated by a Claritas Inc. report. There are no specific statistics on our community’s blended Latino-Filipino cultures, though it’s definitely a part of Kern County life. And with the annual Philippine Weekend on tap in Delano from now through Sunday, July 27, there are sure to be many other instances of this common cultural ground that is Latino and Filipino. Gilbert, 40, who is Mexican, and his wife, Jocelyn, 43, originally from the Philippines, make a point of allowing each of their respective cultures to flow naturally in all areas of daily life. “It’s pretty simple,” said Gilbert of the family’s ability to retain cultural values with room to evolve together. “Our Mexican and Filipino cultures are very similar. We just take it in stride.” In person, the couple’s mutual love and respect for one another is amplified through their children: Ryan, 26; Jodie, 24; and Trisha Juan, 21, all Jocelyn’s from a previous marriage, plus Laurenn, 15; Joseph Guerrero, 12, and three beloved grandkids: Kaitlyn, 5; Maleena, 3; and Luke, 3 months. http://www.masbakersfield.com/file/picture/264115/1/0/ “Our kids know their roots,” said Jocelyn. “Their grandmother always talks about traditions, and the Filipino Tagalog dialect is very similar to the Spanish language. My dad has always spoken Spanish. I remember my grandfather would speak it a lot when he got mad,” she laughed. Jocelyn — who, at 12, migrated with her family from Manila, Philippines to the city of Delano — remembers adapting quickly to her surroundings in a small city that boasts sizable Mexican and Filipino immigrant communities. “Filipinos and Mexicans share a lot of the same customs,” said Jocelyn. “Being Catholic, how we are both respectful of our elders, and of course — the language.” Gilbert arrived in Delano from Matehuala in the Mexican state of San Luis Potosi at 5 years old. “I started speaking English about year after we came here from Mexico,” he said. “I found it pretty simple to fit in. I was first introduced to Filipino food through some friends of mine.” Gilbert’s friends, Carmen and Felix Magpali also from Delano, like most Latino families, were always busy in the kitchen. Gilbert remembers the sweet scents that filled their home, especially the Adobo. “Felix was always cooking,” he remembered. “He cooked great adobo.” Adobo is considered the national dish of the Philippines, as it is often featured at most Filipino meals, just like carne asada at Mexican gatherings. Adobo is a Spanish word referring to the marinade or spice used to prepare various dishes, and most commonly used with chicken or pork. Growing up as teenagers and adapting to the American way of life in Delano, the two were friends before they began dating. “We were friends in the ‘80s, and started dating in the ‘90s,” remembered Jocelyn. Though the couple was prepared for the differences they might have encountered as a Mexican-Filipino couple, the two immediately found there was much ado about nothing, and married in 1997. “The more we were around each other, we started to notice that we did the same things with our families,” said Jocelyn. “I used to always say, ‘You do this too?’” As their children have grown, the cultural balance has kept the siblings involved with Filipino community events, such as Philippine Weekend. Much like Cinco de Mayo, Philippine Weekend gives everyone a chance to get experience the food, sights and sounds of their Filipino neighbors. For Jocelyn, such events bring back memories of her own past involvement in the Miss Filipino Community and Mrs. Philippine Weekend pageants. Now, her children have kept that tradition going as members of dance teams participating during the weekend festivities. “All the kids have been involved with Philippine Weekend for sometime,” she said. “Whenever they need help, they help. We are blessed to have great kids.” After 11 years of marriage, the Guerrero family fusion with a dash of Mexican and a pinch of Filipino in the recipe is a shining example of how when two great cultures merge, the results can be quite amazing. “We have a strong family bond,” smiled Gilbert. “You should see the house during family reunions.” this is an interesting article posted by Animo. esagerato October 15th, 2008, 02:45 PM i have noticed Mexican blood are stronger than the Filipino blood here's my half-mexican cousins (both men).... http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/498/cousinsiw5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) here's another Mexican cousin of mine( right) , her mother is more caucasian than "mexican" ... http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/9017/cousinz117ze2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) and i have noticed Filipinos prefer to have interracial marriage/relationship w/ Mexicans and vise versa :) the post above this might explain why... Waldenstrom October 15th, 2008, 02:46 PM http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm209/waldenstrom/mosaico1ve1.jpg Isn't that Albert Einstein??? :eek: :lol: j/k esagerato October 15th, 2008, 02:56 PM How about the Diaz Family as in Paquito, Romy, Joko and Cheska Diaz. Can't find pictures of them but they are of Pinoy/Mexican descents as well . here's Cheska García.. Yes, I think Cheska's father has some Spanish blood.. http://farm1.static.flickr.com/108/311614086_ed7336dfbc.jpg?v=0 By the Way, here's some pics of Filipino mestizos who can pass for Mexican. Juan Elizalde and Bianca Araneta de Elizalde http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/el_chico_loco/32639148_576ed58649.jpg Echevarría family http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/el_chico_loco/27436059_5a1157d02c.jpg Roces-Revilla family http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/el_chico_loco/27930099_d5d292fa9e_o.jpg Enrique Razon- Today's 8th richest Filipino http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/el_chico_loco/27410353_30bf9e81f9_o.jpg esagerato October 15th, 2008, 03:00 PM ^^ Those pics are only a few of them. If you want to see more of Filipinos with Spanish or Mexican blood, (either mestizo or white) visit these threads: http://eurasiannation.proboards48.com/index.cgi?board=celebrities&action=display&thread=9566&page=2 http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t40642-0.html I won't post all the pics because the purpose of this thread is not to showcase mestizos and white Filipinos. :lol: esagerato October 15th, 2008, 03:31 PM Filipina actress Mariana del Rio is typical example of a Filipina-Latin American beauty. She's half-filipino, half-brazillian. http://www.starmometer.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/565515510_7a00649406.jpg Mercato October 15th, 2008, 03:36 PM ^^ asus... ginoo ka dodong, teka kaw ata si kaibigang tomasino dati a... 'to naman tampo agad. buajajaja... Viva TigerBeeer! basta Brown Pride! :pepper: . . . ayos, di rin nakatiis nagpost ng braziliana :lol: esagerato October 15th, 2008, 03:40 PM ^^ haha, naaaddict lang ako sa thread na ito.. ewan ko ba! Back to the topic! :lol: from_antipolo October 15th, 2008, 03:55 PM Filipina actress Mariana del Rio is typical example of a Filipina-Latin American beauty. She's half-filipino, half-brazillian. http://www.starmometer.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/565515510_7a00649406.jpg mariana's a brazilian! she doesn't have an inch of filipino blood! esagerato October 15th, 2008, 03:59 PM mariana's a brazilian! she doesn't have an inch of filipino blood! mariana's half pinoy. do a research about her. hehe.. esagerato October 15th, 2008, 04:05 PM Well this is not only Americans tho Filipinos are the same way my friend she is Colombian and she went to the Philipines and just because she is white everyone thought she was American, you see. I don't think most americans get offended most of them are like im half irish, german, spanish,italian, polish im like dude how many "halves" can u have? :lol: some one wrote this to my comment and i dont know what he/she means: pango ka daw MYX, di bale guapo ka pa rin naman. ayos lang yan. can someone translate lol please hi medpaisa, i think you have cousins who are half-filipinos? Mind if you post their pics here? jejejeje... LordCarnal October 15th, 2008, 04:11 PM No offense to those who posted photos of themselves in this thread, but it seems to me that all of the sudden everyone wants to know if they can pass for a Mexican. I find that a little too weird. Yeah, wanting to be a foreigner. Could this be a product of colonial mentality? esagerato October 15th, 2008, 04:14 PM ^^yes, it could be... that's something Filipinos cannot take away from them. Anyway, I'm proud to be a Filipino.. hehe. It's just that I want to impart our cultural heritage to other people and to show the ethnic diversity of the Philippines as well. from_antipolo October 15th, 2008, 05:01 PM mariana's half pinoy. do a research about her. hehe.. no she is not! they only say that she's half-filipina when people get to notice her more! medpaisa19 October 15th, 2008, 09:32 PM hi medpaisa, i think you have cousins who are half-filipinos? Mind if you post their pics here? jejejeje... hey yes here is the pic of them not of good quality was taking from a webcam, ill find a better one. the half Filipino cusins are the two lil ones in the front and the older one in the back is half black (look at her skin and she has like the best green eyes ever :D) as u can see my family likes to mix :D http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x307/medpaisa18/l_f0e31743cb100458a81203f110394666.jpg hereis a pic of my family do they look Mexican ?:D u can barely see me here im all the way in the back poping my head out http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x307/medpaisa18/n629659683_261664_4745.jpg Ang_Bantayanon October 16th, 2008, 02:40 AM Yeah, wanting to be a foreigner. Could this be a product of colonial mentality? I agree. Colonial mentality. Suddenly everybody likes to be latinos. I'm half Spanish... sardines. Peace :) Waldenstrom October 16th, 2008, 02:43 AM There are also a lot of South Americans who look like Filipinos. esagerato October 16th, 2008, 05:37 AM I agree. Colonial mentality. Suddenly everybody likes to be latinos. I'm half Spanish... sardines. Peace :) This thread should not be taken seriously because as the thread starter said, this thread is purely for fun. Some forumers here post their pics to know if they can pass for foreigners, it does not necessarily mean that they want to be foreigners. This is not the proper thread to discuss colonial mentality etc. Peace to ultranationalists people. :) amigo32 October 16th, 2008, 06:01 AM I agree. Colonial mentality. Suddenly everybody likes to be latinos. I'm half Spanish... sardines. Peace :) ikaw lang ba ang ayaw maging half half? :lol:I am one and a half:D i am half Spanish:D totoo half white american totoo din and half Filipino :Dsometimes:lol: Lili October 16th, 2008, 06:10 AM ^ You look like Viva Zapanta. Mavey October 16th, 2008, 06:12 AM The Spanish blood still runs in Filipinos and Mexicans.Some of you may very well be related. Mavey October 16th, 2008, 06:17 AM I'm Iranian I can speak Spanish some what actually studying it.My teachers are from Spain.They say many of us have Spaniard faces. Me with Iranian futbol jersey. http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9661/phpthumbgeneratedthumbnoi9.jpg esagerato October 16th, 2008, 06:22 AM ^^ Pareces Mexicano.. blanco mexicano.. you look like a white mexican. Mavey October 16th, 2008, 06:23 AM No soy blanco soy Perse de Iran.No me gusta los gringos.Quieren que mi pais esta como ******.Patria o muerte! ;) Lili October 16th, 2008, 06:24 AM Yes, you look Spanish @Mavey. dinabaw October 16th, 2008, 06:27 AM I'm Iranian I can speak Spanish some what actually studying it.My teachers are from Spain.They say many of us have Spaniard faces. Me with Iranian futbol jersey. http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9661/phpthumbgeneratedthumbnoi9.jpg you look like the guy who protrayed Idi Amin's doctor in "Kingdom of Scotland"(?) and also he portrayed the elf in Narnia esagerato October 16th, 2008, 06:27 AM No soy blanco soy Perse de Iran.No me gusta los gringos.Quieren que mi pais esta como ******.Patria o muerte! ;) no te gustan gringos?? it's obvious you don't want to be associated with them. crappypants October 16th, 2008, 07:11 AM He looks Russian. mwg12a October 16th, 2008, 07:21 AM The Spanish blood still runs in Filipinos and Mexicans.Some of you may very well be related. Not really blood related or descendants, many filipinos has no lineage to a spanish blood but the culture left behind by the spaniards stayed on, this is due to Catholism that we picked up from the Spaniards and perhaps the Mexicans due to trade between Acapulco and Manila. So, it is not really a blood per se but more of cultural beliefs mixed with native filipino cultures along with other influences from the chinese and neighboring countries. It made the filipino different from the rest of the asian neighbors due to religion. mwg12a October 16th, 2008, 07:24 AM I'm Iranian I can speak Spanish some what actually studying it.My teachers are from Spain.They say many of us have Spaniard faces. Me with Iranian futbol jersey. http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9661/phpthumbgeneratedthumbnoi9.jpg Actually this picture looks more like european because most Iranian has dark brown hair to black. I went to school with some Pakistanis and Iranians in college but you belongs to a much caucasian - western looking Iranian. Yes, you look Spanish @Mavey. You think so??? I was thinking German... crappypants October 16th, 2008, 07:33 AM he could be a light afhgan there are Afhgans who are light who look Russian. Afghans and Iranians are both Persian right? mwg12a October 16th, 2008, 07:54 AM Could be crappy. My friend who is also my boss , well former boss because he is in a diffrent department is a full blooded Castillian Spanish from Madrid here is what he looks like. I found it in one of my files here. He still claim residency in Madrid but he has permanent residency in the US so he always go back and forth every year. Lucky bastard!! he he http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z170/midwestguy1/Spanishboss.jpg I myself looks more like bumbay and get mistaken for latino as well, but, we all know that how most caucasians and black americans can't tell the difference mostly. I don't know of any spanish lineage in our family so I can't claim it, I don't know how I get my looks. I was told by one filipino before that I look like Ernie Garcia from the Philippines??? I don't know what that guy looks like. BTW, I am not that dark in person... he he http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z170/midwestguy1/me.jpg Deus Ex October 16th, 2008, 08:07 AM you certainly look Indian.^^ Deus Ex October 16th, 2008, 08:08 AM Actually this picture looks more like european because most Iranian has dark brown hair to black. I went to school with some Pakistanis and Iranians in college but you belongs to a much caucasian - western looking Iranian. You think so??? I was thinking German... Diffrent areas of spain have diffrent attributes. Not all of them look the same.^^ Deus Ex October 16th, 2008, 08:14 AM I'm Iranian I can speak Spanish some what actually studying it.My teachers are from Spain.They say many of us have Spaniard faces. Me with Iranian futbol jersey. http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9661/phpthumbgeneratedthumbnoi9.jpg Iranian you say?I agree, Alot of Indians,Middle Eastern People, and Russians look like Spanish People. Because they come from eastern Europe and are also know as the Visigoths. So that accounts for similarities found in Russia for example. And for the ones that look like arabs, I guess it is because of the Muslim attack before the Reconquest of spain. ^^ mwg12a October 16th, 2008, 08:32 AM Diffrent areas of spain have diffrent attributes. Not all of them look the same.^^ Ofcourse.... but I was basing it on the majority. I'm sure in this day in age, there are tons of cases in interacial marriages so yes, definitely there would be someone who would look a big different from the rest. There are spaniards from the south I believe that has darker complexion with very caucasian facial features. Mond87 October 16th, 2008, 10:14 AM I'm chinese-looking because of my eyes but I have to say that my grandpa has spanish blood too. My conclusion here is that, you just cannot conclude that someone has no spanish blood by just looking at his/her face. but by determining his/her ancestors, you'd find out that he did have some lineage from other races too but it just doesn't show because of something that genetics can explain. To me, it may not be apparent these days but I do see that Filipinos still have some spanish blood running in their veins. Mond87 October 16th, 2008, 10:15 AM I myself looks more like bumbay and get mistaken for latino as well, but, we all know that how most caucasians and black americans can't tell the difference mostly. I don't know of any spanish lineage in our family so I can't claim it, I don't know how I get my looks. I was told by one filipino before that I look like Ernie Garcia from the Philippines??? I don't know what that guy looks like. BTW, I am not that dark in person... he he http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z170/midwestguy1/me.jpg you don't look like a normal filipino to me. I guess you just don't know that you've got an indian blood or baka anak ka sa labas.:lol::bash: Mond87 October 16th, 2008, 10:16 AM ^^just kidding... Mond87 October 16th, 2008, 10:43 AM http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb141/starboard87/DSC00663.jpg to amigoendf: the reason why the 2nd girl looks like a mexican is that she does have some spanish blood (no violent reactions pls). yes, it's true. I've seen her mother and her mother's cousin. both of them look like mexicans (or a bit of spanish too)... Mond87 October 16th, 2008, 10:48 AM I guess the main point of this thread is that Filipinos and Mexicans look really alike. It doesn't need for one to look very Castillian just for him to look like a Mexican. kiretoce October 16th, 2008, 12:21 PM This thread just drives home the point that Filipinos can't be pigeonholed or placed in a box regarding what our physical features looks like. The spectrum of our looks range from the palest of whites to the darkest of blacks, and everything conceivable in between. As I've always said (and I'll say it again), being a Filipino is a "state of one's mind and heart." if you feel, think, and act Filipino....then you are a Filipino! :colgate: driftwood October 16th, 2008, 12:43 PM ^^ ... who just happened to look Mexican? :lol: Pacific_leopard October 16th, 2008, 12:50 PM @ mond, she looks just like my friend.... i just don't know if I would pass for a mexican http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3028/2946922456_ee79c7ec8c.jpg amigo32 October 16th, 2008, 12:52 PM ^^ ... who just happened to look Mexican? :lol: Not just Mexican, pretty Mexican:D GearX October 16th, 2008, 01:01 PM http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z170/midwestguy1/me.jpg I thought an overweight Martin Nievera driftwood October 16th, 2008, 01:01 PM ^^ :lol: That's kinda redundant. Isn't Martin Nievera already... err... chubby? GearX October 16th, 2008, 01:02 PM @ mond, she looks just like my friend.... i just don't know if I would pass for a mexican http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3028/2946922456_ee79c7ec8c.jpg a Mexican Sissy....no offense, just an observation :cheers: GearX October 16th, 2008, 01:03 PM ^^ :lol: That's kinda redundant. Isn't Martin Nievera already... err... chubby? or bloated... dinabaw October 16th, 2008, 01:04 PM a Mexican Sissy....no offense, just an observation :cheers: :lol: lagot ka! driftwood October 16th, 2008, 01:07 PM ^^ :rofl: Hala!!! Sissy daw si pac-lep. amigo32 October 16th, 2008, 01:08 PM kuhang sissy nga sa tingin ko rin:D:D:D Pacific_leopard October 16th, 2008, 01:09 PM wahahaha.. Ha? what does a mexican sissy mean? hahaha amigo32 October 16th, 2008, 01:12 PM wahahaha.. Ha? what does a mexican sissy mean? hahaha bading na mexican:D Pacific_leopard October 16th, 2008, 01:14 PM wahaha... ganun pala yun? hahaha... Pacific_leopard October 16th, 2008, 01:16 PM kuhang sissy nga sa tingin ko rin:D:D:D oo nga no... ngayun ko lang na notice.hahahaha ok lang yun...hahaha... bading na mexican hahaha... nye! ahahaha... dinabaw October 16th, 2008, 01:46 PM wahahaha.. Ha? what does a mexican sissy mean? hahaha bruhita mehikano :D bukid October 16th, 2008, 04:24 PM a Mexican Sissy....no offense, just an observation :cheers: ^^ :rofl: Hala!!! Sissy daw si pac-lep. kuhang sissy nga sa tingin ko rin:D:D:D bading na mexican:D oo nga no... ngayun ko lang na notice.hahahaha ok lang yun...hahaha... hahaha... nye! ahahaha... :lol: uy, mga kapatid sa pederasyon, wala bang maligayang pagtanggap (welcome) sa bago nating kaanib. :lol: j/k amigo32 October 16th, 2008, 04:27 PM toink:D:D:D hindi namn inamin pre, yung pic lang daw sissy:D si LMAO pala alam mo ba? aanib sya kung si crappy ang leader natin:D tawa to death namn ako jan:D pre, infernes yung mukha nya madali ayusan:D dinabaw October 16th, 2008, 04:31 PM inviting talaga si leopard hmmm sayang kung maging vhading :D Pacific_leopard October 16th, 2008, 04:43 PM ^^ sayang talaga!(aba't naging concieted!) :lol: uy, mga kapatid sa pederasyon, wala bang maligayang pagtanggap (welcome) sa bago nating kaanib. :lol: j/k kaanib ka dyan! lang hiya!hahaha the pederasyun es ol yurs mah prend. haha!!! bukid October 16th, 2008, 04:53 PM toink:D:D:D hindi namn inamin pre, yung pic lang daw sissy:D si LMAO pala alam mo ba? aanib sya kung si crappy ang leader natin:D tawa to death namn ako jan:D pre, infernes yung mukha nya madali ayusan:D :lol::rofl::lol: sige kulotan natin. :lol: inviting talaga si leopard hmmm sayang kung maging vhading :D :D kung alam mo lang... uso na ngayon yan. :D ^^ sayang talaga!(aba't naging concieted!) kaanib ka dyan! lang hiya!hahaha the pederasyun es ol yurs mah prend. haha!!! :D:D:D:D:D Pacific_leopard October 16th, 2008, 05:11 PM :lol::rofl::lol: sige kulotan natin. :lol: :D kung alam mo lang... uso na ngayon yan. :D :D:D:D:D:D fak! ahahaha... kulot na ako!...medyo lang pala.. does this photo look like a mexican without sissy taging along with it?hehehe http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/03/06/15046030/1_349036121l.jpg amigo32 October 16th, 2008, 05:18 PM fuschia ang favorite color nya pre:D:D:D:D bukid October 16th, 2008, 05:19 PM fak! ahahaha... kulot na ako!...medyo lang pala.. does this photo look like a mexican without sissy taging along with it?hehehe http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/03/06/15046030/1_349036121l.jpg :lol: uy, hindi ikaw ang sinasabi kong kukulotan namin. :lol::D yung sinasabi ni amigo sa post nya sa ibaba ang tinutukoy namin na kukulotan. :lol: toink:D:D:D hindi namn inamin pre, yung pic lang daw sissy:D si LMAO pala alam mo ba? aanib sya kung si crappy ang leader natin:D tawa to death namn ako jan:D pre, infernes yung mukha nya madali ayusan:D Pacific_leopard October 16th, 2008, 05:27 PM ^^^ahahah my bad.. wahaha... ang concieted ko talaga! Mavey October 16th, 2008, 05:28 PM he could be a light afhgan there are Afhgans who are light who look Russian. Afghans and Iranians are both Persian right? Yes they are from the Iranic family. Mavey October 16th, 2008, 05:30 PM Iranian you say?I agree, Alot of Indians,Middle Eastern People, and Russians look like Spanish People. Because they come from eastern Europe and are also know as the Visigoths. So that accounts for similarities found in Russia for example. And for the ones that look like arabs, I guess it is because of the Muslim attack before the Reconquest of spain. ^^ Well Iranian tribes did invade parts of Spain.In Spain they are some words that are from old Persian. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Alani_map.jpg bukid October 16th, 2008, 05:32 PM ^^^ahahah my bad.. wahaha... ang concieted ko talaga! :lol: okay lang yan may ipagmamalaki naman. :D Mavey October 16th, 2008, 05:42 PM Actually this picture looks more like european because most Iranian has dark brown hair to black. I went to school with some Pakistanis and Iranians in college but you belongs to a much caucasian - western looking Iranian. You think so??? I was thinking German... Here are pictures of other Iranians. Ali Pahlavan - Iranian singer. http://i35.tinypic.com/214dqv8.jpg http://i36.tinypic.com/fxgg3k.jpg http://i38.tinypic.com/2u6mm4w.jpg http://i34.tinypic.com/28vzu9z.jpg Pacific_leopard October 16th, 2008, 05:46 PM ^^ the last one looks just like my classmate!wahahaha who happens to have arabian roots.. bariQ October 16th, 2008, 05:51 PM omg i love persia! :D Mavey October 16th, 2008, 06:01 PM ^^ the last one looks just like my classmate!wahahaha who happens to have arabian roots.. Yeah we actually are not related in any way to Arabs sorry.Me and other Iranian youth. http://i35.tinypic.com/bhs0z.jpg http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v198/231/113/610760314/n610760314_2630240_1157.jpg http://photos-182.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v190/85/43/500902182/n500902182_474132_4016.jpg http://photos-h.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v136/106/76/6400156/n6400156_34267823_4534.jpg http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/alitezar/tehran3/TH/2703335410086837165vLnWsy_ph.jpg from_antipolo October 16th, 2008, 06:05 PM persians are better looking than arabs. *woot! woot!* bukid October 16th, 2008, 06:14 PM ^^ i agree. :D because my maternal grandmother's ancestors are said to be of persian roots before the islamization of persia. so they are persian but not muslim. Mavey October 16th, 2008, 06:26 PM Thats cool.Must have been Zoroastrians. crappypants October 16th, 2008, 06:35 PM yes persians are better looking than Arabs. I've never seen any goodlooking arabs. though they both have big eyes. Mavey October 16th, 2008, 06:47 PM Be nice :) Lili October 16th, 2008, 06:51 PM Prince of Persia is going to be a movie soon. I wonder who will be the actor. I wish they will tap a true blue Iranian. My, so good-looking both men and women. crappypants October 16th, 2008, 06:54 PM Be nice :) I was nice, I said Persians are good looking:lol: , I knew this one Afghan , he was really handsome, but on the short side. Mavey October 16th, 2008, 07:28 PM Prince of Persia is going to be a movie soon. I wonder who will be the actor. I wish they will tap a true blue Iranian. My, so good-looking both men and women. Some Iranian actors.I bet they would have issues going to the US though.I think they have an American actor playing the role already? Bahram Radan on the right Iranian actor would be great in that role. http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2423/40757742mg3lc5.jpg Lili October 16th, 2008, 07:37 PM ^ yes, he would. bitoy October 16th, 2008, 08:17 PM I was nice, I said Persians are good looking:lol: , I knew this one Afghan , he was really handsome, but on the short side. Baka parating naka shorts -- :lol: medpaisa19 October 16th, 2008, 09:17 PM There are also a lot of South Americans who look like Filipinos. Actually the majority of South americans don't look Filipino only 5 % of South Americans are indigenous which are the people that are most similar looking to Filipinos. We all look very different we are probably one of the most diverse regions in the world for example Brazil has the largest Japonese and black population outside of Japan and Africa, millions of Italians, Germans, Polish,Spaniards,Russians,Middle Easterns,Jews, Irish, British, lebaneses, Turks, and Africans immigrated to South America. bitoy October 16th, 2008, 10:12 PM Here's what most Filipinas look like: addVfbwafvw BZTDP2xgUNc ... and the last photo on that one is a Penoy! :lol: Matteo October 16th, 2008, 11:44 PM Some Iranian actors.I bet they would have issues going to the US though.I think they have an American actor playing the role already? jake gyllenhaal Askal82 October 17th, 2008, 02:51 AM ikaw lang ba ang ayaw maging half half? :lol:I am one and a half:D i am half Spanish:D totoo half white american totoo din and half Filipino :Dsometimes:lol: or could be half man or half woman. :lol: I like half and half. Half full, half skim on my coffee please. :lol: Mond87 October 17th, 2008, 03:43 AM This thread just drives home the point that Filipinos can't be pigeonholed or placed in a box regarding what our physical features looks like. The spectrum of our looks range from the palest of whites to the darkest of blacks, and everything conceivable in between. As I've always said (and I'll say it again), being a Filipino is a "state of one's mind and heart." if you feel, think, and act Filipino....then you are a Filipino! :colgate: you have a point but the thread's about the closeness of physical features b/w mexicans and filipinos and the main reason could be that both have a mix of spanish-malay race. I don't know if that makes a point to you but it does to me... Pacific_leopard October 17th, 2008, 04:11 AM ^^ it doesn't matter... whatever you are, whoever you are... some people may look just like someone from another faraway country.... kiretoce October 17th, 2008, 04:19 AM yes persians are better looking than Arabs. I've never seen any goodlooking arabs. You mean they're more "pootie" looking. ;) I was nice, I said Persians are good looking:lol: , I knew this one Afghan , he was really handsome, but on the short side. And which side was that? :lol: you have a point but the thread's about the closeness of physical features b/w mexicans and filipinos and the main reason could be that both have a mix of spanish-malay race. I don't know if that makes a point to you but it does to me... I see what you're driving at, but you weren't seeing the point I was making. I just stated that Filipinos can look like anyone in the world. Gives an apt description to us being a "Global Nation." crappypants October 17th, 2008, 05:20 AM ^^probably on both sides. :lol: A mixture of 1/4 middle eastern and 3/4 European is a beautiful mix. kiretoce October 17th, 2008, 05:30 AM ^^ Hmm....what would a 1/4 Asian, 1/4 Hispanic, 1/4 Black, and 1/4 White person look like? ;) crappypants October 17th, 2008, 05:42 AM ^^A filipino. :lol: dinabaw October 17th, 2008, 05:44 AM ^^ Hmm....what would a 1/4 Asian, 1/4 Hispanic, 1/4 Black, and 1/4 White person look like? ;) benetton :lol: kiretoce October 17th, 2008, 05:44 AM ^^ :okay: @Marites: :doh: I should've known! :lol: mwg12a October 17th, 2008, 07:28 AM a Mexican Sissy....no offense, just an observation :cheers: OMG that is soooo mean...LMAO:lol: I thought an overweight Martin Nievera OMG, YOU ARE MEAN...LMAO Overweight?? I only have 10% body fat...he he Pacific Leopard??? I have been meaning to say this for awhile and I hope it's not offensive either but I think you look like a male and young version of Nora Aunor...LMAO Sorryyyyyyyyyy!!!! GearX, lets see your picture so we can judge also...LMAO ^^ :lol: That's kinda redundant. Isn't Martin Nievera already... err... chubby? So, if Martin Nievera is already chubby, does that mean GearX is trying to say I am OBESE????? You are all soooooo evil !!!!!! LMAO mwg12a October 17th, 2008, 07:33 AM you don't look like a normal filipino to me. I guess you just don't know that you've got an indian blood or baka anak ka sa labas.:lol::bash: May pagkatotoo, sa loob ako ng coche, lumbabas, hindi umabot sa triad ng Atlanta hospital...LMAO kiretoce October 17th, 2008, 07:35 AM ^^ Huh? I didn't get that. :sly: mwg12a October 17th, 2008, 07:41 AM Yep, one of my poor attempt for humor, lame isnt it??? Anak sa labas, since I was born outside the house and not in a hospital, it was OUTSIDE!!! Corny I know...LMAO esagerato October 17th, 2008, 07:45 AM I'm chinese-looking because of my eyes but I have to say that my grandpa has spanish blood too. My conclusion here is that, you just cannot conclude that someone has no spanish blood by just looking at his/her face. but by determining his/her ancestors, you'd find out that he did have some lineage from other races too but it just doesn't show because of something that genetics can explain. To me, it may not be apparent these days but I do see that Filipinos still have some spanish blood running in their veins. I agree, just take the case of Lovi Poe. His father Fernando Poe Jr. has Spanish-American blood because of his parents, but if you don't know her, you won't say that she does have that coz she looks more Chinese. esagerato October 17th, 2008, 07:50 AM hey yes here is the pic of them not of good quality was taking from a webcam, ill find a better one. the half Filipino cusins are the two lil ones in the front and the older one in the back is half black (look at her skin and she has like the best green eyes ever :D) as u can see my family likes to mix :D http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x307/medpaisa18/l_f0e31743cb100458a81203f110394666.jpg hereis a pic of my family do they look Mexican ?:D u can barely see me here im all the way in the back poping my head out http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x307/medpaisa18/n629659683_261664_4745.jpg Gracias por postear las fotos de tus primas, y tambien tu familia! Son muy lindas. BTW, your half-Filipino cousins look more Latinos than Filipinos. hehe. esagerato October 17th, 2008, 07:55 AM Here are pictures of other Iranians. Ali Pahlavan - Iranian singer. http://i35.tinypic.com/214dqv8.jpg http://i36.tinypic.com/fxgg3k.jpg http://i38.tinypic.com/2u6mm4w.jpg http://i34.tinypic.com/28vzu9z.jpg Some Iranians look Spaniards! haha... I guess you better make another thread about Iranians who look Spaniards in your forum. :) kiretoce October 17th, 2008, 08:06 AM Yep, one of my poor attempt for humor, lame isnt it??? Anak sa labas, since I was born outside the house and not in a hospital, it was OUTSIDE!!! Corny I know...LMAO Ahh....I get it now. :okay: Lost in translation. :lol: sakamoto October 17th, 2008, 08:09 AM Yep, one of my poor attempt for humor, lame isnt it??? Anak sa labas, since I was born outside the house and not in a hospital, it was OUTSIDE!!! Corny I know...LMAO :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Pacific_leopard October 17th, 2008, 08:49 AM OMG that is soooo mean...LMAO:lol: Pacific Leopard??? I have been meaning to say this for awhile and I hope it's not offensive either but I think you look like a male and young version of Nora Aunor...LMAO Sorryyyyyyyyyy!!!! that was...... oh well... naubos self confidence ko dun sa sinabi mo ah. LOL... i don't know but you were the first person to say that... wow... parang natunaw ako dun.hahaha... haha.. no worries, It's Ok. mwg12a October 17th, 2008, 08:58 AM Sorry.... really am!! She is not ugly at all, she is just considere "bakYa" by the masses, but i guess you should be glad as well because I think her son (I can't remember his name) looks like her as far as I can remember so, it means you look like that Nora's son, mukha kang artista... Pacific_leopard October 17th, 2008, 09:05 AM ^^ i just don't know... I can't figure out the similarities... the nice.. the eyes... the shape of our faces...hahah... kiretoce October 17th, 2008, 09:06 AM Sorry.... really am!! She is not ugly at all, she is just considere "bakYa" by the masses, but i guess you should be glad as well because I think her son (I can't remember his name) looks like her as far as I can remember so, it means you look like that Nora's son, mukha kang artista... :lol: Nice save! :okay: Pacific_leopard October 17th, 2008, 09:06 AM ^^...haha... ohhh... parang naubusan ako ng guts..hahaha... amigo32 October 17th, 2008, 09:10 AM :D:D:D bukid October 17th, 2008, 11:22 AM :lol::lol::lol: Mond87 October 17th, 2008, 01:26 PM I see what you're driving at, but you weren't seeing the point I was making. I just stated that Filipinos can look like anyone in the world. Gives an apt description to us being a "Global Nation." Oh okay... sorry... I don't have much of a good comprehension about your earlier message... never been to the states. my english is confined only to what my education, tv and internet has brought me... :) but wait, what do you mean by "pigeon-holed"? heheh... :) Mond87 October 17th, 2008, 01:29 PM wow... after reading all the later posts, I've had so much fun in this thread... you guys are SO FUNNY!!! :rofl: mwg12a October 17th, 2008, 03:45 PM :lol: Nice save! :okay: shush, I have no money for bail out.. work with me brothah. I need a good lawyer...LOL:nuts: kiretoce October 17th, 2008, 04:46 PM but wait, what do you mean by "pigeon-holed"? heheh... :) piegeonhole verb. To classify or categorize. shush, I have no money for bail out.. work with me brothah. I need a good lawyer...LOL:nuts: :lol: Can't help you there bud, I ain't an amublance chaser. :nuts: from_antipolo October 17th, 2008, 04:56 PM i saw somewhere here that americans can be a little shallow with their description of other races. i was in california three years ago when a friend from colorado mentioned that i looked like mexican. i mean, i was chinky-eyed and the only thing that could have made me mexican was my skin color. i was even asian yellow! i don't know what made him say that i could be mistaken for a chicano. kiretoce October 17th, 2008, 05:31 PM ^^ In California, anything that's not distinctly White, Black, or Asian is Mexican! :lol: Kaiser October 17th, 2008, 05:43 PM OMG. Nakaktawa yung mga post dun sa page 18 hehehehe :lol: Observation ko lang...... :) Animo October 17th, 2008, 05:54 PM I hope you guys don't forget that Native Americans are Asians originally. :nuts: Its not surprising also that a large population of Native Filipinos also went and settled in the Americas (Mexico and possibly Peru too) even before they were granted permission by the USA government. BFr-J-p_jSs i saw somewhere here that americans can be a little shallow with their description of other races. i was in california three years ago when a friend from colorado mentioned that i looked like mexican. i mean, i was chinky-eyed and the only thing that could have made me mexican was my skin color. i was even asian yellow! i don't know what made him say that i could be mistaken for a chicano. _E2y1UlTwhI&feature=related La china :lol: Mercato October 17th, 2008, 06:19 PM ^^ :| haaaaaaay salamat.... Brown Pride ulit... kala ko nableached out na tong thread na to e. :lol: All the mexicans in the background look like Filipinos, except Alejandro Fernandez & the leading lady. Si he sabido amor 87-zS2_eszM crappypants October 17th, 2008, 09:31 PM ^^ In California, anything that's not distinctly White, Black, or Asian is Mexican! :lol: and every latino is a Mexican:lol: forget about all those central, south american and carribean countries. and every Asian is a Chinese. :lol: etienne October 18th, 2008, 01:03 AM i dont know if this has been posted here. interesting column by ambeth o. __________________________ Mexico, under our skin By Ambeth Ocampo Philippine Daily Inquirer First Posted 00:23:00 05/28/2008 “Bahay Kubo” is a nursery rhyme that Filipinos carry into their old age. Passed on from generation to generation nobody takes the trouble to think about the lyrics. The title is taken from the first line of the song that has nothing to do with a nipa frond hut. “Bahay Kubo” is actually a song about vegetables that grow around the hut. “Singkamas,” “talong,” “sigarilyas,” “mani,” “sitaw,” “bataw” and “patani” are so common Filipinos presume these are native to the country. Many people are surprised to learn that many of the plants, fruits and vegetables they grew up with were imported centuries ago. Many of the “native” plants we know were vegetable and fruit immigrants from Mexico. Best examples are “camote,” “achuete,” “sayote,” even chocolate—most of the fruits and vegetables that end with “te” originated from Mexico. On the other hand, through the galleon trade, the Philippines gave Mexico mangoes that are now known there as Mangas de Manila. Globalization may sound like a new word or concept but it is actually centuries old. Look back at the exchange between East and West during the galleon trade and you will see globalization at work early on in our history. Mexico may not figure in our history like Spain, the United States of America, or Japan but the cultural links run deep. Taking a shortcut and avoiding the trouble of undertaking research in our archives, museums and libraries, the Mexican Embassy in Manila was smart enough to send a query regarding street names, landmarks and institutions in the Philippines related to Mexico to our Department of Foreign Affairs. Their letter, following diplomatic channels, was transmitted to the National Historical Institute that did research that yielded surprising results. Naturally, the place to start is the province of Pampanga that is famous for its version of tamales and a southern town called Mexico. Though similar in look and intent, the Kapampangan tamales is a rice cake with meat steamed in banana leaves; it is said to be of pre-Spanish origin and only loosely related to the Mexican kind that is made of cornmeal and is wrapped in corn husks. There are many versions about how Mexico town in Pampanga got its name. Local lore states that the town got its name from Guachinangos who settled there from Mexico during Spanish times. Another story is that the founders of the town—Spanish friars, military and civil officials—had served in Mexico and finding some physical similarities between the two gave it its present name. The problem is that then as now Kapampangans do not pronounce Mexico as written but “mispronounce” it as “maisicu.” According to Diego de Bergano, who compiled one of the earliest Kapampangan dictionaries and grammars in the early 18th century, “maisicu” is an archaic term that means “abundance.” Could Maisicu be the pre-colonial name of the town then Hispanized into Mexico? Well, the “Libro de Gobiernos” [Book of Governments] of the Augustinian order states that the town from the earliest records was known as Nueva Mexico, or New Mexico. New Mexico in the United States has a town called Santa Fe; well, there is a Santa Fe street in Tondo, Manila, that is named after the original Santa Fe in Mexico. Then there is a street in Manila that connects Tayuman street, Sta Cruz with Lacson street in Sampaloc called A. Mendoza, a rather common name in the Philippines that leads residents to ask who is the historic Filipino honored by that street. The street was named after Antonio de Mendoza, first viceroy of Mexico (1535). Finally, there is a municipality in Northern Samar called Capul that is not named after anyone or anything local; rather, Capul is from Acapulco, Mexico. There are three monuments or historical markers in the Intramuros area that are related to Mexico. Somewhere by the Pasig river, on the same street as the Bureau of Immigration, is a memorial to the galleon trade. On the other side of the walled city, along Bonifacio Drive, there is a small memorial to Mexican Air Squadron 501—Mexican pilots who served in the Philippines during World War II. Close to this is the statue of Miguel Hidalgo y Costilla (1753-1811), the National Hero of Mexico whose cry for independence is often lost among Filipinos who do not know him. Then of course in Makati we have an old and new Guadalupe—Guadalupe Viejo and Guadalupe Nuevo—churches that trace the origin of their patroness to Nuestra Senora de Guadalupe or Our Lady of Guadalupe in Mexico. This image is a symbol of Mexico and the shrine that preserves the image is supposedly the second most visited Catholic church after St. Peter’s in Rome. In 1835, Pope Pius XI made Our Lady of Guadalupe Patroness of the Philippines. Finally, some words in our languages that we presume are Spanish like “gafas” for eyeglasses and “casafuego” for matches are actually Mexican. Spaniards use “lentes” or “anteojos” instead of “gafas” for eyeglasses. Spaniards use “cerillas” instead of “casafuego” for matches. It seems that when you scratch the modern Filipino in an attempt to uncover the various cultures that make him what he is, Mexico will be found under his skin. dattebayo October 18th, 2008, 11:40 AM and every latino is a Mexican:lol: forget about all those central, south american and carribean countries. and every Asian is a Chinese. :lol: true, even the language. I was speaking tagalog to someone then suddenly a hispanic kid asked me if im speaking chinese. :lol: maybe bacause he heard me saying alot of "nang" words esagerato October 18th, 2008, 11:51 AM ^^ well, yung kamag anak ko sa states, napagkamalan siyang latino hindi dahil sa itsura nya kundi dahil dun sa sinabi niya. Namimili daw siya noon sa supermarket, tapos nakakita siya ng margarine.. Eh ang tawag sa mga probinsiya ng margarine eh "mantekilya." Napaimik lang siya ng "mantekilya" habang nag go grocery tapos an american kid approached and mocked her like "mantequilla, tequila, españole." Not the exact words, pero parang ganyan, rhyme.. :lol: esagerato October 18th, 2008, 12:16 PM I was scanning YES! magazine few minutes ago, and I saw some Pinoy families who look Mexicans. The family of Tirso Cruz III and Sylvia Sanchez, they look like mexicans. Askal82 October 18th, 2008, 05:25 PM This is Wolfgang's Basti Artadi's clip and his rendition of Jose Pepe Smith's rendition of "jeepney" together with another band, Razorback. They are Filipinos of European descent who were born and grew in the Philippines whose ancestors settled more than 3 generations ago. Nobody would think they are Filipinos as their first impression. :lol: D7detneXvlc One of my favorite singles from Wolfgang: Matter of Time with Radha: 45FcQ2x0DXE Atomica: g0j8XInxyO8&NR kiretoce October 18th, 2008, 06:14 PM ^^ But....are they Mexican? :lol: Askal82 October 18th, 2008, 06:35 PM ^^ Hellz no! They are homegrown pinoys. Well, they may look like some Latin American who have european descent and that includes Mexico. Mercato October 19th, 2008, 03:09 AM ^^^^ :rock: awesome dude! these wolfgang guys are fantastic. I instantly liked wolgang's Matter of Time duet w/ Radha when I heard it. talent talent pure talent. :cheers2: i also experience problems w/ youtube on some vids coz the vidmaker had disabled embedding; - re 2nd one... :) Pacific_leopard October 19th, 2008, 05:32 AM I like Dragonforce better!heheheh mwg12a October 19th, 2008, 08:32 AM ^^ In California, anything that's not distinctly White, Black, or Asian is Mexican! :lol: I think it's almost everywhere in the US, except mostly big cities or perhaps major cities in America. The rest? It's either chicano or chinx, sorry, i hope I didn't offend anybody because I used the word chink. Just stating the fact how most classify other no white or blacks in the US and the term they use to refer or discribe someone that's not typical American looking individual. I was called a "Jap" at one time when a coworker saw me pass her on the highway, not realizing it was me... when I told her at work she got really embarrasssed for flipping me off and yelled " Damn jap, learn to F'ing drive safe..." LOL Most Americans are very accepting somehow. kiretoce October 19th, 2008, 09:00 AM ^^ Down here in Florida (more in South Florida, really); it's White, Black, Asian, or Cuban! :lol: crappypants October 19th, 2008, 09:21 AM didn't that honduran comedian say that, when he's in the west he's a Mexican, when he's in the SE he's Cuban, when he's in the NE he's a Puerto Rican. Cristovão471 October 19th, 2008, 12:20 PM Question: How often would you see full blooded Spaniards in public? esagerato October 19th, 2008, 03:19 PM ^^kinda off-topics, we're talking about mexicans, not spaniards. terrapinoy October 19th, 2008, 10:27 PM Attended A benefit Filipino cultural show in Baltimore. The show was awesome and proceeds went for Sanbayan's efforts to build a Filipino center in Maryland. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3043/2955060879_61f5149e84.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3143/2955899102_c6988f780f.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3067/2955054423_736d10f06f.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3001/2955057417_4879e90d9a.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3237/2955904964_db339b7918.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3246/2955903648_06c7f52ff8.jpg kiretoce October 19th, 2008, 11:47 PM ^^ Awesome shots, terrapinoy! Were you that close to them? By the way, remember that Indian restaurant you took me to near the campus of UM? Well, I tried duplicating one of their dishes (and added my own twist). Now the lithmus test will be tonight, when I serve it for dinner; we have visitors from out-of-town here at the house (will also post photos in the Pagkain thread later). terrapinoy October 20th, 2008, 12:19 AM ^^ Thanks. Wasn't too close, but I picked a seat that was dead center to the stage. Played around with my old zoom and manual settings on the camera. The costumes were superb. :lol: Let us know how your stab at Indian cooking goes. You may have to drop by again to get another taste. kiretoce October 20th, 2008, 12:30 AM ^^ Your camera has very powerful zooming capabilities! The photos all came out crisp and clead, except for the blurs of motion, of course. :okay: Yes, I would definitely have to make a return trip to that restaurant! :colgate: mwg12a October 20th, 2008, 11:40 AM Question: How often would you see full blooded Spaniards in public? Depends on what location you are asking about. If it's in Spain?? Everyday, 24 hours a day, seven days a week.... LMAOOOOOOOOOO:lol::nuts::banana: Espano_Atx October 20th, 2008, 12:12 PM how do u embed a photo? is the same way when you embed a video? esagerato October 20th, 2008, 12:16 PM deleted... Espano_Atx October 20th, 2008, 12:22 PM ^^no se ve la foto? jejeje.. aquí está! Whoa, how did you do that? If you don't mind removing the pic then show me and let me paste it again, please. Thanks! :) esagerato October 20th, 2008, 12:22 PM ^^ website Kaiser October 20th, 2008, 04:00 PM Allowed din ba yung mga half filipinos sa thread na to, for comparison with the mexicans? kiretoce October 21st, 2008, 02:56 AM ^^ Post the photo and we'll see if they can pass as Mexicans. ;) Mercato October 21st, 2008, 03:14 AM ay mali!! D2 ko nga pla dapat pinost 'to:lol:,,, buti n lang ala sound so puede na sguro. segment 00:12 - 00:15 shows Isabel Preysler with her 3 kids, Filipinos,... :) azmQkLfVxec Mercato October 21st, 2008, 03:17 AM e, alin ka diyan sa baba, kaibigan? :) ^^no se ve la foto? jejeje.. aquí está! http://www.friendster.com/photos/36508792/0/525199910"><img border="0" src="http://photos-792.friendster.com/e1/photos/29/78/36508792/525199910l.jpg Mercato October 21st, 2008, 03:26 AM Question: How often would you see full blooded Spaniards in public? US En : Who cares? :lol: UK En : Who gives a rat’s ass? :lol: Es : Me importa un culo. :lol: Ta : ang hilo na ‘to ay ukol lamang sa dati rating ugnayan ng Mexico at Filipinas (mga higit kumulang 300 na taon lang naman); dahil sa pinili mong dumako sa hilo na to, nawa’y matuto kang bumagay sa iba’t ibang lipunan at kultura sa buong mundo, di lamang ang nakagisnan mo kung saan ka man lumaki. Alam mo, tulad ng sinasabi ko sa youtube atbp; ang dayuhan na pumunta sa amin para sa pandigmaan ay pinapaslang, tulad ng ginawa ni Lapulapu samantalang ang dayuhan na pumunta para sa kapayapaan ay tinatanggap bilang kaibigan at kapatid, tulad ng ginawa nina Rajah Humabon at Datu Sikatuna. (translation = we are so cute & adorable). :banana: kiretoce October 21st, 2008, 03:36 AM ^^ Or, in Valspeak....whatevah! :lol: mAiNsTrEaMhunter October 21st, 2008, 04:19 AM guys, what are the DOS and DON'TS in your barangay, town, city, or province? just might want to know.:) kiretoce October 21st, 2008, 04:30 AM General rules of etiquette and social graces apply wherever you are in the world. davaob4now October 21st, 2008, 04:59 AM in Davao there is Tobacco Law/policy...and there is firecrakers ban during the holiday season...:) Espano_Atx October 21st, 2008, 07:03 AM e, alin ka diyan sa baba, kaibigan? :) Red shirt. Espano_Atx October 21st, 2008, 07:13 AM :D Mercato October 21st, 2008, 08:33 AM Red shirt. Thanks bro... . . . esep esep... kala ko si vivatomasino ang andun na tinutukoy ko sa pic na yun? mwg12a October 21st, 2008, 03:46 PM Espano looks pinoy to me, a nice looking one. Are you wearing blue contact lens? It's kind of obvious , i could be wrong... I think it's the shape of your face and the nose that gave it away. I wish I can take a picture of my mexican coworker with me but it would look really weird if I take picture of him and me. He is pure blooded mexican but is the only mexican I know who never really speak spanish. I think he is a second generation American (mexican american) He is alot darker than I am. He actually has similarities with Aga Mulach, a dark mexican version. mwg12a October 21st, 2008, 03:50 PM US En : Who cares? :lol: UK En : Who gives a rat’s ass? :lol: Es : Me importa un culo. :lol: Ta : ang hilo na ‘to ay ukol lamang sa dati rating ugnayan ng Mexico at Filipinas (mga higit kumulang 300 na taon lang naman); dahil sa pinili mong dumako sa hilo na to, nawa’y matuto kang bumagay sa iba’t ibang lipunan at kultura sa buong mundo, di lamang ang nakagisnan mo kung saan ka man lumaki. Alam mo, tulad ng sinasabi ko sa youtube atbp; ang dayuhan na pumunta sa amin para sa pandigmaan ay pinapaslang, tulad ng ginawa ni Lapulapu samantalang ang dayuhan na pumunta para sa kapayapaan ay tinatanggap bilang kaibigan at kapatid, tulad ng ginawa nina Rajah Humabon at Datu Sikatuna. (translation = we are so cute & adorable). :banana: Okay, I think you just ruined my tagalog on this one, I can't seems to understand it anymore... Parang nakakahilo at nakakaduling basahin. Grabe ka palang mas magaling magtagalog sa mga tagalog...LMAO Espano_Atx October 21st, 2008, 06:34 PM Espano looks pinoy to me, a nice looking one. Are you wearing blue contact lens? It's kind of obvious , i could be wrong... I think it's the shape of your face and the nose that gave it away. I wish I can take a picture of my mexican coworker with me but it would look really weird if I take picture of him and me. He is pure blooded mexican but is the only mexican I know who never really speak spanish. I think he is a second generation American (mexican american) He is alot darker than I am. He actually has similarities with Aga Mulach, a dark mexican version. Thanks. ;) but I never claimed to be anything other than filipino ;) or trying to be judged as someone who looks mexican :) although i've been mistaken as such esp. with my mom at flea markets. :lol: but i also get cambodian, vietnamese, and thai - that's where i go "huh? thanks?"... lol... Mercato October 21st, 2008, 08:25 PM Okay, I think you just ruined my tagalog on this one, I can't seems to understand it anymore... Parang nakakahilo at nakakaduling basahin. Grabe ka palang mas magaling magtagalog sa mga tagalog...LMAO Did I? I don't know, I thought there was nothing remarkable about that piece. I did mention in the main forums that my tagalog is the "SoTal" (SoCal is So. California, hence SoTal is So. Tagalog) variety. :lol: Well, a lot of those words written are ordinary fare in Batangas, Laguna, Quezon or Cavite. :) Any one from Calabarzon can understand it... or even those parts of Manila which still speak a saner form of Tagalog other than the insane ones I read - the "kris aquino kolehiyala" variety - now that one is nakakahilo & yucchy, IMHO. But thanks, and I did provide a translation below. :lol: crappypants October 21st, 2008, 09:07 PM Here's some pictures of my mexican friends and me... i think some can pass for a filipino mestizo. http://photos-792.friendster.com/e1/photos/29/78/36508792/1_903455526l.jpg http://photos-792.friendster.com/e1/photos/29/78/36508792/1_278625879l.jpg http://photos-792.friendster.com/e1/photos/29/78/36508792/1_149116746l.jpg she's my friend who loves filipino food... jajajaja and speaking of spaniards, here's a pic of my spanish friend http://photos-792.friendster.com/e1/photos/29/78/36508792/899764201l.jpg Not all filipinos look a like... lol... case in point... lol... http://photos-792.friendster.com/e1/photos/29/78/36508792/789926723l.jpg you look filipino to me. :lol: are you sure you're not just suffering from Milf syndrome? :lol: Mercato October 21st, 2008, 11:06 PM Espano looks pinoy to me, a nice looking one. ........ I wish I can take a picture of my mexican coworker with me but it would look really weird if I take picture of him and me. He is pure blooded mexican but is the only mexican I know who never really speak spanish. I think he is a second generation American (mexican american) He is alot darker than I am. He actually has similarities with Aga Mulach, a dark mexican version. Hmmmmmmmmm, que pasa? muy muy interesante :lol: After reading amigo's posts in the SSC Cebu thread, well why am I getting other thoughts, bro? peace out :lol: :nocrook: There are actually hundreds of thousands of 'em Chicanos born in the US who can't speak Spanish - just like there are FilAms who can't speak any Filipino language. I read an article once. Plus we have this Mex friend who married our Filipina friend in Irvine. He can't speak a lick of spanish, idolizes John Lennon and looks like a chubby John Lennon himself w/ green eyes & brown hair. Yet when I first met 'im, he evaded the mexican question and claimed he was Fil-Chin-Am... ========================================================= What comes to my mind are 2 scions from 2 old rich families. Let’s assume that say, no one knew who the Quezon family was or who the Roxas family was. To cut the chase, if one were to look at either Mar Roxas or Manuel Quezon III today, both look very Filipino. (MLQ III has a lot of flicker photos but I cant post it here without his permission. Ditto for Mar Roxas) But in reality, they do come from / or do have mestizo ancestry (re their grandparents) & most of them had retained fluency in the language. Another one would be Kuh Ledesma. Kuh looks very Filipina. I remember urban legend has it that the Ledesma family didn’t recognize Kuh until after she became famous, I could be wrong on this one though… :)...... (then again, 'twould hardly be surprising for all 3 coz all 3 are Filipinos after all)...:lol: http://www.marroxas.com/new/ (... o ayan libre plug in sa candidato nyo na di ko naman masyado kilalang abilidad, no?) http://www.quezon.ph/ http://kuhledesmaonline.com/ In genetics, there is such a thing as recent ancestry or distant ancestry, too. But to most folks, only those with recent ancestry (“full blooded” Caucasian parents) count. Anything beyond grandparents does not. But the Mexican (Virreinato) reign ended in 1821........... :2cents: :lol: What the T.S. seems to be saying is that most of his Mex paisanos do not realise the vast extent of Mexican influence back then. Espano_Atx October 22nd, 2008, 02:06 AM you look filipino to me. :lol: are you sure you're not just suffering from Milf syndrome? :lol: What's a Milf syndrome? I never said I wasn't filipino - all I was saying was that not all filipinos look the same (some look mestizo, others more indigenous, etc.) :) mwg12a October 22nd, 2008, 03:47 AM Thanks. ;) but I never claimed to be anything other than filipino ;) or trying to be judged as someone who looks mexican :) although i've been mistaken as such esp. with my mom at flea markets. :lol: but i also get cambodian, vietnamese, and thai - that's where i go "huh? thanks?"... lol... Oh no, don't get me wrong. I never did try and accused you of claiming something else, I was just stating my innocent opinion. You or we all have a good reason to be proud of what or who we are. I'm not gay or anything when I said you look good, I think it's okay for me to complement a fellow filipino after all I'm older than you even if we really don't know one another. I've gotten praises and complements from buddies myself, I know there is nothing connected with it so it's all good. I had to mention it earlier so as you won't think I am being condescending or what towards you. you look filipino to me. :lol: are you sure you're not just suffering from Milf syndrome? :lol: What's a Milf syndrome? I never said I wasn't filipino - all I was saying was that not all filipinos look the same (some look mestizo, others more indigenous, etc.) :) I don't know about crappy's statement or question up there. I don't think she knows what she is talking about or what she is asking you about... MILF has nothing to do with how a person looks nor how other perceive another person looks. For an FYI only, if you live in the US, MILF is not totally uncomon words or acronym you hear around.... MILF actually stands for "Mothers I Love(or Like to) F*cking..." meaning a hot blooded male whom is attracted sexually on matured married women in their thirties and above..... kiretoce October 22nd, 2008, 04:02 AM What's a Milf syndrome? I never said I wasn't filipino - all I was saying was that not all filipinos look the same (some look mestizo, others more indigenous, etc.) :) Umm....I think what crappypants meant to say was IMASCF syndrome, not MILF. :lol: mwg12a October 22nd, 2008, 04:04 AM Hmmmmmmmmm, que pasa? muy muy interesante :lol: After reading amigo's posts in the SSC Cebu thread, well why am I getting other thoughts, bro? peace out :lol: :nocrook: There are actually hundreds of thousands of 'em Chicanos born in the US who can't speak Spanish - just like there are FilAms who can't speak any Filipino language. I read an article once. Plus we have this Mex friend who married our Filipina friend in Irvine. He can't speak a lick of spanish, idolizes John Lennon and looks like a chubby John Lennon himself w/ green eyes & brown hair. Yet when I first met 'im, he evaded the mexican question and claimed he was Fil-Chin-Am... In genetics, there is such a thing as recent ancestry or distant ancestry, too. But to most folks, only those with recent ancestry (“full blooded” Caucasian parents) count. Anything beyond grandparents does not. But the Mexican (Virreinato) reign ended in 1821........... :2cents: :lol: What the T.S. seems to be saying is that most of his Mex paisanos do not realise the vast extent of Mexican influence back then. Yes sir, I'm aware of that... I just mentioned that he is a 2nd generation American (mexican american), does not speak spanish at all, that his ways and culture is more of an average american man that for me to take a picture of him and maybe with me, out of the blue, would really look odd or perhaps "weird.." Then, I would have to explain things to him.. We are not really that tight as friends, we get along but somehow it would definitely look weird... mwg12a October 22nd, 2008, 04:05 AM Umm....I think what crappypants meant to say was IMASCF syndrome, not MILF. :lol: Aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh! That was it then... Whewwwwwwwww!!!!! :lol: I was gonna say MILF?? WTF??????? LMAO esagerato October 22nd, 2008, 04:58 AM Hmmmmmmmmm, que pasa? muy muy interesante :lol: After reading amigo's posts in the SSC Cebu thread, well why am I getting other thoughts, bro? peace out :lol: :nocrook: There are actually hundreds of thousands of 'em Chicanos born in the US who can't speak Spanish - just like there are FilAms who can't speak any Filipino language. I read an article once. Plus we have this Mex friend who married our Filipina friend in Irvine. He can't speak a lick of spanish, idolizes John Lennon and looks like a chubby John Lennon himself w/ green eyes & brown hair. Yet when I first met 'im, he evaded the mexican question and claimed he was Fil-Chin-Am... ========================================================= What comes to my mind are 2 scions from 2 old rich families. Let’s assume that say, no one knew who the Quezon family was or who the Roxas family was. To cut the chase, if one were to look at either Mar Roxas or Manuel Quezon III today, both look very Filipino. (MLQ III has a lot of flicker photos but I cant post it here without his permission. Ditto for Mar Roxas) But in reality, they do come from / or do have mestizo ancestry (re their grandparents) & most of them had retained fluency in the language. Another one would be Kuh Ledesma. Kuh looks very Filipina. I remember urban legend has it that the Ledesma family didn’t recognize Kuh until after she became famous, I could be wrong on this one though… :)...... (then again, 'twould hardly be surprising for all 3 coz all 3 are Filipinos after all)...:lol: http://www.marroxas.com/new/ (... o ayan libre plug in sa candidato nyo na di ko naman masyado kilalang abilidad, no?) http://www.quezon.ph/ http://kuhledesmaonline.com/ In genetics, there is such a thing as recent ancestry or distant ancestry, too. But to most folks, only those with recent ancestry (“full blooded” Caucasian parents) count. Anything beyond grandparents does not. But the Mexican (Virreinato) reign ended in 1821........... :2cents: :lol: What the T.S. seems to be saying is that most of his Mex paisanos do not realise the vast extent of Mexican influence back then. Eto ang matagal na naming tinutumbok nina Mond87, di lang magets ng iba! :lol: tigidig14 October 22nd, 2008, 08:03 AM H http://photos-792.friendster.com/e1/photos/29/78/36508792/789926723l.jpg very manly friends, you have there Espano_Atx October 22nd, 2008, 08:23 AM very manly friends, you have there The best successful manly friends a guy could ask for! :D Am I sensing some kind of manly phobia? ;) Espano_Atx October 22nd, 2008, 08:24 AM Umm....I think what crappypants meant to say was IMASCF syndrome, not MILF. :lol: Still clueless to what it means?... **update: nevermind, i just googled it and found out what it means.... an NO, crappypants, I don't have IMASCF syndrome. I'm proud to be Filipino whether full, half, or in quarters... ;) lol... Espano_Atx October 22nd, 2008, 08:29 AM Oh no, don't get me wrong. I never did try and accused you of claiming something else, I was just stating my innocent opinion. You or we all have a good reason to be proud of what or who we are. I'm not gay or anything when I said you look good, I think it's okay for me to complement a fellow filipino after all I'm older than you even if we really don't know one another. I've gotten praises and complements from buddies myself, I know there is nothing connected with it so it's all good. I had to mention it earlier so as you won't think I am being condescending or what towards you. No pasa nada, tio.... :) I don't know about crappy's statement or question up there. I don't think she knows what she is talking about or what she is asking you about... MILF has nothing to do with how a person looks nor how other perceive another person looks. For an FYI only, if you live in the US, MILF is not totally uncomon words or acronym you hear around.... MILF actually stands for "Mothers I Love(or Like to) F*cking..." meaning a hot blooded male whom is attracted sexually on matured married women in their thirties and above..... MILF - the sex connotation part crossed my mind (either mother or man) then also the Moro Islamic Liberation Front so i was like wtf? :lol: cyberwizard October 22nd, 2008, 09:31 AM how about in a garden?..don't pick flowers?..:lol::lol::lol: bitoy October 22nd, 2008, 09:51 AM I don't know about crappy's statement or question up there. I don't think she knows what she is talking about or what she is asking you about... MILF has nothing to do with how a person looks nor how other perceive another person looks. For an FYI only, if you live in the US, MILF is not totally uncomon words or acronym you hear around.... MILF actually stands for "Mothers I Love(or Like to) F*cking..." meaning a hot blooded male whom is attracted sexually on matured married women in their thirties and above..... MILF could also mean "Mexicans I Love to Flirt". :lol: mwg12a October 23rd, 2008, 09:09 AM No pasa nada, tio.... :) MILF - the sex connotation part crossed my mind (either mother or man) then also the Moro Islamic Liberation Front so i was like wtf? :lol: MILF could also mean "Mexicans I Love to Flirt". :lol: You guys got me laughing hard on what you guys said. barrera_marquez October 23rd, 2008, 02:16 PM DO your first date in the dark... kiretoce October 24th, 2008, 04:14 AM "When in Rome. Do as the Romans do." Mercato October 24th, 2008, 04:26 AM everyone here can pass as filipinos... :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lG8YkKNy-8 _lG8YkKNy-8 Waldenstrom October 24th, 2008, 04:30 AM this thread is unbelievable. i won't be surprised if there'll be a thread 2. Mercato October 24th, 2008, 04:34 AM so does everyone here, except the leading lady: :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZKB_nhdP_c&feature=related rZKB_nhdP_c&feature=related my friend says this group is popular w/ the masses, "masa" ranchero music. they can wear barongs and pass as filipinos. :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCdzq-3HN4w&feature=related rCdzq-3HN4w&feature=related kiretoce October 24th, 2008, 04:55 AM this thread is unbelievable. i won't be surprised if there'll be a thread 2. :lol: With 105 million Mexicans in Mexico and 90 million Filipinos in the Philippines, the odds of people from both nations looking alike is limitless! :okay: Mercato October 24th, 2008, 05:22 AM :lol: With 105 million Mexicans in Mexico and 90 million Filipinos in the Philippines, the odds of people from both nations looking alike is limitless! :okay: plus close to 300 years of shared history helps quite a bit, too :lol: if the Threadstarter is still with us, all he has to do is focus & delve into their "masa" mass pop culture & most everyone there can pass for filipinos. :) kiretoce October 24th, 2008, 05:28 AM ^^ Tru dat! :okay: crappypants October 24th, 2008, 05:29 AM Mexicans seem very horny. kiretoce October 24th, 2008, 05:34 AM ^^ Seem? Or, are! :naughty: ( :lol: ) Waldenstrom October 24th, 2008, 05:38 AM Filipinos too. :colgate: crappypants October 24th, 2008, 05:40 AM ^^ Seem? Or, are! :naughty: ( :lol: ) like Askal , hellz SEEM :lol: crappypants October 24th, 2008, 05:41 AM Filipinos too. :colgate: RBs don't count. :lol: kiretoce October 24th, 2008, 05:42 AM ^^ :rofl: bitoy October 24th, 2008, 05:42 AM like Askal , hellz SEEM :lol: Mabibilaukan niyan si Askal! RBs don't count. :lol: :lol::lol: dattebayo October 24th, 2008, 10:04 AM Mexicans seem very horny. hmm.. chili can prove that. :laugh: mwg12a October 24th, 2008, 10:24 AM plus close to 300 years of shared history helps quite a bit, too :lol: if the Threadstarter is still with us, all he has to do is focus & delve into their "masa" mass pop culture & most everyone there can pass for filipinos. :) Without starting a debate or arguement. Why is it that the Mexicans speaks spanish and the filipinos doesn't? I mean not at home.. I think the mexicans speaks spanish already even during that galleon trade times.... but the filipinos were still speaking in their native languages even those times... Skip this if this is a bad idea to ask again, I can't remember if it was discussed in a closed thread, I know this is supposed to be a fun and laid back thread about this especific issue, about similarities and not languages.. Cristovão471 October 24th, 2008, 10:31 AM Depends on what location you are asking about. If it's in Spain?? Everyday, 24 hours a day, seven days a week.... LMAOOOOOOOOOO:lol::nuts::banana: this is the Philippines forum, am I wrong? Anyway, my question was kinda vague, how about I rephrase, how often in lets say in....Metro Manila would you see prdominantly european looking people in the streets (not including middle aged American tourists in typical tourist clothes) kiretoce October 24th, 2008, 03:07 PM ^^ We're predominantly European looking? :sly: :ohno: I bet right now some people will be doing this.... :banana: after reading that. ;) amigo32 October 24th, 2008, 03:09 PM ^^ We're predominantly European looking? :sly: :ohno: I bet right now some people will be doing this.... :banana: after reading that. ;) :D:D:D inunahan mo na eh:D mwg12a October 24th, 2008, 03:38 PM this is the Philippines forum, am I wrong? Anyway, my question was kinda vague, how about I rephrase, how often in lets say in....Metro Manila would you see prdominantly european looking people in the streets (not including middle aged American tourists in typical tourist clothes) It is a filipino forum but then again the topic of discussion is about mexicans and filipinos , attimes other spanish speaking countries are also mentioned.. It was really just a joke, no pun intended :):nuts: Mercato October 24th, 2008, 05:26 PM Without starting a debate or arguement. Why is it that the Mexicans speaks spanish and the filipinos doesn't? I mean not at home.. I think the mexicans speaks spanish already even during that galleon trade times.... but the filipinos were still speaking in their native languages even those times... Skip this if this is a bad idea to ask again, I can't remember if it was discussed in a closed thread, I know this is supposed to be a fun and laid back thread about this especific issue, about similarities and not languages..You missed the point entirely. The last vids I had posted here & in the Musikahan thread were all “masa” pop culture videos, indeed. But I never mentioned the spanish language for this one but I meant the physical features of the singers or the background people. (Since this thread is about the physical features “kuno”). I also mentioned the “masa” pop culture. See, most can actually pass off as filipinos. There are hundreds more of these vids & pics out there but its virtually impossible to post them all here. Like the singer Nadia, kahit anong angulo ko bali-baliktarin ang vid e pinay na pinay ang dating. Heck, even without the espanol, they had shown that their Mex masa flavour or masa style is just as similar to any of our masa pop culture. Some native Mexicans still speak Nahuatl and the other native languages btw. Mercato October 24th, 2008, 05:37 PM this is the Philippines forum, am I wrong? Anyway, my question was kinda vague, how about I rephrase, how often in lets say in....Metro Manila would you see prdominantly european looking people in the streets (not including middle aged American tourists in typical tourist clothes) If you are astute you would already had the known the answer to your question. If you can speak English and you can call the city “Metro Manila”, I opine there is more to you than meets the eye. As far as I know, only Filipinos refer to Manila as Metro Manila. Even Hongkongers, Singaporeans & other Asians do not know this, they call Manila by only Manila.... Hmmm, indeed indeed... ^^ We're predominantly European looking? :sly: :ohno: I bet right now some people will be doing this.... :banana: after reading that. ;) I do not blame you for drawing conclusions out of a very vague and open ended question. . . Lest anyone forget, the TS’ intent was to draw up attention to ethnic diversity within his own country & at the same time drawing out similarities between the 2 countries. It’s not as if there are no Mexicans to look at in the United States. (In this day and age, good Lord!). And it’s not as if it’s virtually impossible to cross south of the border. Heck, its only 3hours by plane from LAX & its so easy, (expedia dot com). My cousins always go for scuba diving in Cancun or Cozumel or Puerto Vallarta when they get good deals. The stories from Fil Ams are always the same – that there exist brown Mexicans. These guys exist and yet despite overwhelming evidence of their existence (on vids, pics, etc) there are some stubborn people who pretend they don’t. Pity. Reality check - hey, who then is speaking Mayan & Nahuatl - both living languages? The birds & the bees? :lol: Animo October 24th, 2008, 08:34 PM México was not a Spanish speaking country in the 1st place until the 18th century. Education using the Spanish language was instated after Independence from Spain. The same if the Malolos Government was left untouched by the Americans! Then the Filipinos of today would be speaking Spanish. Without starting a debate or arguement. Why is it that the Mexicans speaks spanish and the filipinos doesn't? I mean not at home.. I think the mexicans speaks spanish already even during that galleon trade times.... but the filipinos were still speaking in their native languages even those times... Skip this if this is a bad idea to ask again, I can't remember if it was discussed in a closed thread, I know this is supposed to be a fun and laid back thread about this especific issue, about similarities and not languages.. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3053/2953354381_ea62107614_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3019/2954204488_34f172647e_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3018/2954204600_2f70dfa28d_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3251/2953354789_f07247fe3b_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3162/2953354895_d16bb555f8_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3183/2953355013_75bef9e338_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3170/2953355139_1e8e05b983_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3245/2954205334_19b9942be4_o.jpg The Filipino diaspora is at least four hundred years old. For two-and-a-half centuries, Filipinos by the hundreds traveled yearly to Mexico and the Americas, with many electing to stay and find a new life. The chief means for migration was the Manila galleon that sailed between the Philippines and Mexico to carry on a lively trade in Asian goods in exchange for silver from the Americas and the trappings of civilization from the West. The end of the galleon trade in 1815 did not stop the exodus of Filipinos to foreign lands as they began to discover the lure of other exotic ports in Asia and Europe. This book attempts to answer the question often asked: What happened to those Filipinos who started the diaspora? The answers are important because they fill a gap in the long history of this adventurous race. Manila Men in the New World: Filipino Migration to Mexico and the Americas from the Sixteenth Century (http://books.google.com/books?id=OSqhZphG_gQC&pg=PA124&lpg=PA124&dq=nahuatl+in+filipino+words&source=web&ots=rIonqUAwUE&sig=0yy44YTgAFpzTh7UyPAgGjP-veU&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=6&ct=result#PPR5,M1) By Floro L. Mercene Published by University of the Philippines Press, 2007 ISBN 9715425291, 9789715425292 161 pages kyle@1008 October 24th, 2008, 09:07 PM ^^ nice animo I enjoyed reading it, thanks for sharing... Mercato October 24th, 2008, 11:12 PM The Filipino diaspora is at least four hundred years old. For two-and-a-half centuries, Filipinos by the hundreds traveled yearly to Mexico and the Americas, with many electing to stay and find a new life. The chief means for migration was the Manila galleon that sailed between the Philippines and Mexico to carry on a lively trade in Asian goods in exchange for silver from the Americas and the trappings of civilization from the West. The end of the galleon trade in 1815 did not stop the exodus of Filipinos to foreign lands as they began to discover the lure of other exotic ports in Asia and Europe. This book attempts to answer the question often asked: What happened to those Filipinos who started the diaspora? The answers are important because they fill a gap in the long history of this adventurous race. Manila Men in the New World: Filipino Migration to Mexico and the Americas from the Sixteenth Century (http://books.google.com/books?id=OSqhZphG_gQC&pg=PA124&lpg=PA124&dq=nahuatl+in+filipino+words&source=web&ots=rIonqUAwUE&sig=0yy44YTgAFpzTh7UyPAgGjP-veU&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=6&ct=result#PPR5,M1) By Floro L. Mercene Published by University of the Philippines Press, 2007 ISBN 9715425291, 9789715425292 161 pages Whoa, awesome dude! Bookmarked already!!! Thank you...:cheers: You mean the great composer Agustin Lara has Filipino ancestry, too??? :banana: One of my faves! I looove his works Solamente Una Vez, Noche de Ronda, Granada, etc. etc http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo332/mercato2008/Mex%20Day%203/Rest%20of%20the%20City/170px-Agustn_Lara_H_Peraza_Madrid_0.jpgÁngel Agustín María Carlos Fausto Mariano Alfonso del Sagrado Corazón de Jesús Lara y Aguirre del Pino (October 30, 1900 – November 6, 1970) ... Maria Clara and other Filipina women wore clothes like these over a hundred years ago. What were these called? Lola Beltran sings Solamente Una Vez: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CszqYoqwxo 8CszqYoqwxo manileño October 24th, 2008, 11:31 PM has anyone seen the movie "Under the Same Moon"? (La Misma Luna) this movie came out early this year and just recently on DVD. its about a mexican boy searching for his mom in the US where shes been working illegally to provide for the kid. America Ferrera's also in the film. anyway there's this mexican actress in the cast who i thought looks sooo Pinay but like everyone in the movie, she was speaking spanish. here i googled her name and pic. http://img5.allocine.fr/acmedia/rsz/434/x/x/x/medias/nmedia/18/63/94/43/18753040.jpg http://media.elsiglodetorreon.com.mx/i/2007/08/19333.jpeg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2110/1746744629_5a8b85fe50.jpg name's Maya Zapata. es increible! Culiat October 25th, 2008, 02:28 AM ^^ I've been wanting to see it. tigidig14 October 25th, 2008, 03:28 AM The best successful manly friends a guy could ask for! :D Am I sensing some kind of manly phobia? ;) niloloko lang kita kapatid i was using sarcasm:lol: i believe that, in all of us, manileno looks more spanish, based on his pics btw kiretoce October 25th, 2008, 03:37 AM ^^ Trying to look like a Nahua, Tigs? ;) crappypants October 25th, 2008, 03:40 AM has anyone seen the movie "Under the Same Moon"? (La Misma Luna) this movie came out early this year and just recently on DVD. its about a mexican boy searching for his mom in the US where shes been working illegally to provide for the kid. America Ferrera's also in the film. anyway there's this mexican actress in the cast who i thought looks sooo Pinay but like everyone in the movie, she was speaking spanish. here i googled her name and pic. http://img5.allocine.fr/acmedia/rsz/434/x/x/x/medias/nmedia/18/63/94/43/18753040.jpg http://media.elsiglodetorreon.com.mx/i/2007/08/19333.jpeg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2110/1746744629_5a8b85fe50.jpg name's Maya Zapata. es increible! looks like a Mayan or an Incan. crappypants October 25th, 2008, 03:42 AM I don't think we would be speaking Spanish even if the AMericans never came since we already had our own language Filipino . Cristovão471 October 25th, 2008, 04:45 AM If you are astute you would already had the known the answer to your question. If you can speak English and you can call the city “Metro Manila”, I opine there is more to you than meets the eye. As far as I know, only Filipinos refer to Manila as Metro Manila. Even Hongkongers, Singaporeans & other Asians do not know this, they call Manila by only Manila.... Hmmm, indeed indeed... Well i'm not from the Philippines, I visted there in 2004 and in reference found some of the claims (not in the thread) about the ethnic mix (in terms of current european influence) of the philippines to be over exaggerated. P.S I know the term 'Metro Manila' because I spend alot of time learning random geography crap, plus I thought it was more fitting. anyway forget my original question, it was stupid and vague. Anyways this is my extended family in the Philippines (don't know if one of them goes on this forum, lol) http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2459/infrontofthechristmastrpu8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Perhaps they look like white Mexicans? I think the mother is part filipino. mwg12a October 25th, 2008, 04:50 AM ^^^ @ Crappypants - Yeah the spaniards failed to teach ALL the filipinos the spanish language in the 300 years they colonized the Philippines although through catholism, they have left alot of customs and beliefs which is based on the catholic religion. Yes Mercato, i was not able to see the videos you posted last time, thank you @Animo, thanks for the article you posted as well. medpaisa19 October 25th, 2008, 06:31 AM so my family looks ponoy or mexican? :D http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x307/medpaisa18/n629659683_261664_4745.jpg kiretoce October 25th, 2008, 06:35 AM ^^ Generic answer: White. :colgate: Mercato October 25th, 2008, 06:48 AM @mwg12a There was once a Fil-Canadian actress who looked exactly like this girl. She caused the breakup of the marriage of the actress Janice de Belen to someone. just click on the arrows: Nadia y Yahir Yahir y Nadia But I'm beginning to like these better... uh oh :lol: mujer ingrata K Paz de la Tierra Mercato October 25th, 2008, 06:55 AM Well i'm not from the Philippines, I visted there in 2004 and in reference found some of the claims (not in the thread) about the ethnic mix (in terms of current european influence) of the philippines to be over exaggerated. P.S I know the term 'Metro Manila' because I spend alot of time learning random geography crap, plus I thought it was more fitting. anyway forget my original question, it was stupid and vague. Anyways this is my extended family in the Philippines (don't know if one of them goes on this forum, lol) Perhaps they look like white Mexicans? I think the mother is part filipino. True, the most lasting imprint left by the Spanish in the Philippines was the culture & religion rather than on genes. I believe none of them goes to this hidden forum. I myself didn't know of this hidden forum until last month or so; and I'm already a member here for 2 years. That's why it amazes me that some Latins, like a Mexican and a Colombian, can find their ways here like a couple of homing pigeons, including one Iranian. Impressive, most impressive indeed. :lol: The mom looks like part Filipina, alright. But the kids lean more toward the white Mexican rather than Asian. Ozymandias214 October 25th, 2008, 06:55 AM Slightly OT, but here are some of my thoughts on why the Philippines is not a Spanish-speaking country today, despite almost 350 years of Spanish rule. 1) The Spanish population in the Philippines was never that big. The distance and geographic isolation of Las Islas Filipinas from the rest of the Spanish Empire obvioulsly contributed to the relatively sparse number of Spaniards in our country. What's more, the Spanish tended to group amongst themselves; thus the Hispanidad never really expanded from its core. 2) For one reason or another, the learning of the Spanish language seems to have been limited access for most Filipinos (and by that I'm referring to the native, non-Spanish speaking population). Some say it's racism, some say that the Spanish were more keen in promoting Tagalog (I believe Nick Joaquin writes something to this effect somewhere) and other native languages. Case in point, there were a lot of language studies done by Spanish friars on the native languages. There was also this friar, whose name escapes me unfortunately, who extols the poetry and beauty of the Tagalog (or was it Visayan?) language. 3) As already mentioned, geographic isolation separated the Philippines from the rest of the Spanish Empire. Add to that the fact that the Philippines was not surrounded by any major Spanish-speaking colony-- Indonesia was under the Dutch, Vietnam under the French, Malaysia under the English. We can perhaps say that Spanish remained 'provincial'. 4) I think our being an archipelago has something to do with it, too. It's a well-known fact that the Philippines has a large number of native languages (I'm still surprised that many people, esp. in Manila, think that Cebuano is a dialect, and not a language), and coupled with a proud ethocentrist mindset, would probably have made a case against learning another language. While ethnocentrism seems to be dying already, its influence can not be discarded so simply. 5) The Americans came and introduced English. With no common language uniting all the Filipinos, it was relatively easy for the Americans to plant the seeds of English in the country. Mercato October 25th, 2008, 07:02 AM But I like this drinking song better! The link has a better sound. :lol::lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztrdoRM9tA8 SvTxhe0pHcw&feature=related :cheers: crappypants October 25th, 2008, 07:08 AM so my family looks ponoy or mexican? :D http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x307/medpaisa18/n629659683_261664_4745.jpg definitely ponoy. :lol: crappypants October 25th, 2008, 07:10 AM @mwg12a There was once a Fil-Canadian actress who looked exactly like this girl. She caused the breakup of the marriage of the actress Janice de Belen to someone. just click on the arrows: But I'm beginning to like these better... uh oh :lol: Vanessa del Bianco? Vanessa looks way better and she is half italian Canadian half filipino that's why she looks like a Mexican. Mercato October 25th, 2008, 07:13 AM ^^^^ yun nga!! that's it! and who was the name of that husband I forgot too. :lol: crappypants October 25th, 2008, 07:15 AM ohh si ano yon John Estrada. He is now said to be comingling with a Brazilian girl. kiretoce October 25th, 2008, 07:17 AM ^^ Oh, that once-Miss Earth contestant? crappypants October 25th, 2008, 07:17 AM Yup that's her. Espano_Atx October 25th, 2008, 07:27 AM niloloko lang kita kapatid i was using sarcasm:lol: si claro.... yo se, yo se... no pasa nada, tio. :nuts: esagerato October 25th, 2008, 08:26 AM I don't think we would be speaking Spanish even if the AMericans never came since we already had our own language Filipino . The American Indians also had their own languages such as Guarani, Mayan, Quechua etc., and they're still spoken today alongside Spanish. It was the American who imposed laws to stop teaching Spanish in public schools. They sent thousand of Americans, who were called thomasites, to teach English. Anyway, I'm not blaming the Americans for eradicating Spanish in our country. We should still be grateful that English became a second language of most Filipinos. crappypants October 25th, 2008, 09:26 AM ^^they had 300 years and more, If they wanted to teach or "share their language I guess that would have sufficed. The Americans did it in only a few years. Anyway look at the class distinction of those countries , it would seem the natives, or Indios are in the lowest stratum. the more European you are the higher your status in society. No thanks. Waldenstrom October 25th, 2008, 09:29 AM I'm glad that English is our 2nd language. :yes: esagerato October 25th, 2008, 10:54 AM ^^they had 300 years and more, If they wanted to teach or "share their language I guess that would have sufficed. The Americans did it in only a few years. Anyway look at the class distinction of those countries , it would seem the natives, or Indios are in the lowest stratum. the more European you are the higher your status in society. No thanks. I'm not saying that Spain did not fail. Yes, they failed to teach their language not only in the Philippines but also in Mexico and some other latin American countries. Like Mexico, Spanish became widely diffused only after the Spanish colonization but due to the fact that our country was colonized by the USA right after the Spaniards left, and the country suffered from a tremendous devastation due to the second world war, Spanish declined and did not propagate in the Philippines like what happened in Spanish America. amigoendf October 25th, 2008, 11:09 AM I LOVE THIS VIDEOS... The first one is the opening number of Miss Universe 1993 hosted in Mexico City, some of the mexican dancers and their dance costumes look a little beat filipinos.. whhFnv3Dch4 The second one is the opening number of Miss Universe 1994 hosted in Manila, some of the dancers and their costumes (At the begining the ones with the filipina white shirts and the ones at the midle of the video) look a little beat mexicans.. uJ_HEt4_RW4 And this is my FAVORITE is a video with the contestants from Central, North America and Asia, Miss Mexico was the most cheered from the Central and North America's group by the phillipine audience, and obviusly :) Miss Phillipines was the most cheered in the Asia group ... 2zo5jDHLmxQ esagerato October 25th, 2008, 11:14 AM Well i'm not from the Philippines, I visted there in 2004 and in reference found some of the claims (not in the thread) about the ethnic mix (in terms of current european influence) of the philippines to be over exaggerated. P.S I know the term 'Metro Manila' because I spend alot of time learning random geography crap, plus I thought it was more fitting. anyway forget my original question, it was stupid and vague. Anyways this is my extended family in the Philippines (don't know if one of them goes on this forum, lol) http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2459/infrontofthechristmastrpu8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Perhaps they look like white Mexicans? I think the mother is part filipino. Yes, they look Mexicans... esagerato October 25th, 2008, 11:19 AM I LOVE THIS VIDEOS... The first one is the opening number of Miss Universe 1993 hosted in Mexico City, some of the mexican dancers and their dance costumes look a little beat filipinos.. whhFnv3Dch4 The second one is the opening number of Miss Universe 1994 hosted in Manila, some of the dancers and their costumes (At the begining the ones with the filipina white shirts and the ones at the midle of the video) look a little beat mexicans.. uJ_HEt4_RW4 And this is my FAVORITE is a video with the contestants from Central, North America and Asia, Miss Mexico was the most cheered from the Central and North America's group by the phillipine audience, and obviusly Miss Phillipines was the most cheered in the Asia group... 2zo5jDHLmxQ Wow, buenas aportaciones, amigo! Hace un rato que no visitas este thread,.. jejejeje... Waldenstrom October 25th, 2008, 11:21 AM http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm209/waldenstrom/cad5aed7.jpg the guys beside me, dx & sick_n_tired, look like Mexican IMO. :D esagerato October 25th, 2008, 11:31 AM If you would read the non-bias books of Filipino historians like Teodoro Agoncillo, you would find out that Spanish became widely diffused at the early years of the US occupation. Here's another book to prove that. From the Book "Cine: Spanish Influences on Early Cinema in the Philippines" by Nick de Ocampo On Language.. p.217 Until the 1930's, Spanish language cast its strong powers on the population. A record shows that in terms of readership, there were more readers of Spanish newspapers in the country. As of Dec. 31, 1929, there were 66,000 thousand readers of Spanish newspapers and publications but only 36,000 readers of English newspapers and 62,000 Tagalog readers. The use of the English language suffered during the first years of American colonization. Surprisingly, there was a resurgence of the Spanish language in ways that alarmed the ruling americans. When introduced to the American language, local inhabitants reacted by trying earnestly to speak in Spanish.p.218 This was clearly the case in a report made by the Department of Education for 1908: " Spanish continues to be the most prominent and important language spoken in political, journalistic and commercial circles. English has active rivals as the language of intercourse and instruction. I think it's a fact that many more people in the islands have a knowledge of Spanish now than they did when the American Occupation occured. Through the great increase in number of circulation of newspapers and periodicals, there is now much more reading in Spanish than formerly."6 The phenomenal resurgence of the Spanish language came to a point, when, in 1936, an American observed in an article, "Everywhere, Spanish is trhe speech of business and social intercourse." In order to receive prompt attention, the annoyed American traveler writes, "Spanish is almost indispensable." He is surprised to find that his fellow Americans even discouraged the use of English as Spanish was used by the natives habitually and everywhere. Speaking in english one would not be treated with as much respect as one speaking in Spanish. He opines,"Filipinos seem to lose their manners in acquiring English, becoming rude, familiar and insolent." In offices, Spanish was customarily used. English was spoken when the head of office happened to be an American. In schools, students were required to speak english, but outside offices and schools, Spanish so dominated the Filipinos, that it was an exception to hear English."8 p.221 Despite American efforts to curtail the use of Spanish language, it took years before Spanish declined. At one point, there was a series of laws issued by the American-controlled government to put a stop in the use of Spanish language and provide a speedy substitution of English.9 First came Act.190, which provided that English be the official language of all courts and their records after January 1, 1906. In desperation, Exec. Order No.44 issued on August 8, 1912, which qualified the previous declarations to mean that the language requirement did not amount to more than the "expression of a preference in English." There was no doubt that Spanish was a living language. In order to act decisivelyin ending the use of Spanish as a language in courts, the deadline of January 1, 1920 was set for the use of Spanish as an "official langauge" together with English. After that, English would be the only official language in legal transactions in the land. In order to make the use of English widespread, American administrators sought the help of schools to enact laws. But even this became a formidable task. It was an enormous task to change the speech of seven million people.10 It was reported that at the dawn of the American rulw, 2,167 American school teachers were employed in public schools. Notes: 6. Report of the Director of Education for 1908, as cited in the "Henry Jones,Ford Report" and printed in Phil. Historical Review(1913-1929) 8. Ibid. 9. Ibid. 10. Ibid. In fact, Filipinos made movies in Spanish language during the American period http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/restardo/Instituto%20Cervantes/secreto.jpg "Cinema may have been the last major cultural legacy the Philippines derived from its relations with its former colonizer, Spain. Before the European power lost control of its colony in 1898, and before the United States of America became the Philippines Islands new ruler, cinema had been introduced to the colony's mainly Hispanic society. Along with such other material forms of culture as the plow, calendar, clock, map, painter's brush, maize and tobacco, printing presses and even the Roman Alphabet, the film apparatus was among the cultural legacies bequeathed by Spain to its colonial subjects. Film help usher the Filipinos into the modernizing World of the 2oth Century." Introduction: Cine, Spanish influences on the Early Cinema in the Philippines, Metro-Manila, 2003 Source: http://www.geocities.com/tokyo/pagoda/7029/cine.html RP cinema marks 110th year CINEMA in the Philippines celebrates its 110th year Monday. If an account in the Spanish-language newspaper, "El Comercio," is to be believed, it was on Jan. 1, 1897 when the first film exhibition was held at No. 12, Interior in Escolta, Manila. The film show was called "Espectaculo Cientifico de Pertierra," (Pertierra's Scientific Spectacle), named after the Spaniard who brought the first film equipment to the Philippines, Señor Francisco Pertierra. It was not an auspicious start for the motion picture. Only two days earlier, Jose Rizal was executed at Bagumbayan. One year after, Filipinos declared their independence from Spain after months of bloody fighting, only to be plunged deeper into political chaos when the United States snatched the fledgling republic. The turn-of-the-century also meant a struggle for recognition for cinema in an age when the Spanish zarzuela dominated the entertainment scene. Despite its difficult birth, it is remarkable to find in the century that followed cinema becoming the defining culture that helped shape the contemporary Filipino. Hispanic beginnings The date of its birth reveals much about the identity of Filipino cinema. While much has been made of local film being an imitation of Hollywood movies or as embodying the national identity, it should not come as a surprise to know that Filipino cinema owes much to its Hispanic beginnings. Let us start with the words we use to talk about film. Ever wondered where words like pelikula, sine, artista, takilya, telon, and even the one which we use for the hated kontrabida come from? They were obviously derived from the Spanish pelicula, cine, artista, taquilla, telon and contravida. And what about Catholic religious imagery dominating the visual design of many Filipino films? Notice how it is always in front of an altar that a secret confession is made to resolve all conflicts at the end of many Filipino movies. Even in the films that challenge the Church--from Ishmael Bernal's "Himala" to Lino Brocka's "Orapronobis"--our film artists cannot cast out their deep-seated Catholic visual culture. More important than these external symbols, however, is the Catholic ideology embedded in them that once became the basis for our calling ourselves "Filipino." At one time in our history, to be "Filipino" meant to be Hispanic--and Catholic. More telling of our films' Hispanic flavor are the screen names that movie stars use to make themselves more attractive to the public. American mestiza stars like Rose Stagner became Rosa del Rosario and Anita Lake assumed the monicker, Anita Linda. Dorothy Jones became our favorite galawgaw star, Nida Blanca. American mestizo Marvin Gardner became Eduardo de Castro who not only acted but directed films like the famous "Zamboanga." What social values went with the naming of our movie stars? Were not these actors with Spanish-derived names the screen luminaries adulated by mainstream society? And what fate awaited those who assumed native names like Pugo, Dely Atay-atayan or Matutina? Were these not the funny characters who got clobbered and ridiculed in their scenes? Alien form Knowing how our cinema started makes us reflect on the values we attach to a form that has dominated our cultural development. It makes us wonder how an alien form like film which is not indigenous but an imported technology came to be the locus of our national culture and identity. Take for example the way musicals came to be the dominant genre in the emerging Filipino cinema. This was because of early film's close affinity to the Spanish zarzuela, a form of musical theater that was the dominant theater form at the time of film's arrival in the country. The pioneering film of the Spanish-speaking movie director Don Jose Nepomuceno, "Dalagang Bukid," was based on a nativized zarzuela (sarswela) of the same title. Dalagang Bukid was followed by an excess of hybrid musical sarswelas while no films were ever made of indigenous tales like the Hinilawod of central Panay island or the Lam-ang epic of Ilocos. The Spanish roots of Philippine cinema tell us of a past that we present-day Filipinos have learned to obscure in our collective memory. The cultural erasure came in several stages. Two of the more pronounced causes came with the influence of Anglo-Saxon culture when the Americans became our colonial masters who then forcefully substituted English for the Spanish language. The other came with the nationalist desire to supplant everything foreign with what was deemed native. No marker The early period of cinema in the Philippines has been so forgotten that we have even failed to recognize the very street where the first film exhibition was made. Is it too late to find No. 12 Escolta and perhaps place a historical marker on it in order to designate its importance to Filipino culture? If we cannot find it, surely one can still locate the intersection between Escolta and a street now called Tomas Pinpin where in 1897 the second film screening in the country was held inside a jewelry shop at No. 18 owned by French importers, the Levy brothers. On the second floor of this corner edifice, two Swiss businessmen, Leibman and Peritz, showed films using the Lumiere cinematographe imported by another Spaniard, Antonio Ramos. Paradoxically, the roots of our national cinema may be found in its international origins. Cinema in the Philippines was international from birth. It was Spaniards who brought in the first equipment. French films were the first to be shown in makeshift venues owned by French jewelers and capitalized by Swiss financiers. The first real movie house was set up by a British named Walgrah. German, Danish, Italian and even Mexican films were shown. Manila was truly a cosmopolitan city when film arrived here. While the Philippines may rank third after India and China in showing the first films in Asia (Japan and Siam came only a few months later), the moving picture device rapidly spread to other islands within the year of its arrival, 1897. Accounts of film screenings were reported in Iloilo, a bustling port city next only in progress to Manila, and in the island of Cebu. In Cebu, the street where the first film show was held is even known--Calle Colon, the oldest street in the Philippines. Again, not a sign exists there to bear witness to film's initial foray into the archipelago. Cinema and nationhood Recalling cinema's origin gives us an occasion to remember the country's historical past and raise questions about its evolving identity. Film history may even make us take notice of the fact that film is much older than the Philippines as a formal nation-state. With film's birth date in 1897 and our formal declaration as an independent nation coming only in 1946, it gives us much pause to think about the role cinema played in preparing and shaping us Filipinos into becoming the nation that we are today. With the journey it took to assume an identity-- from Hispanic to Hollywood, from a forced "nationalist" identity during the Japanese occupation to the romanticized "Filipino" in the classic '50s, all the way to the "bakya" movies of the '60s and into the shift to digital technology at the turn of a new century--film has many lessons to teach us in terms of knowing who we are as a people. During 110 years of the cinema's growth, we Filipinos have seen wars and revolutions, seen ourselves transform from colony into nation. And even if we are now free, we have also seen the rise and fall of regimes under our own rulers. Through all these experiences, film has been with us in our journey reflecting much of who we are as a people even if viewed only through a glass, darkly. By Nick Deocampo, Contributor Inquirer Last updated 11:54pm (Mla time) 12/31/2006 http://showbizandstyle.inquirer.net/entertainment/entertainment/view_article.php?article_id=41019 (The writer is a filmmaker and author of "Cine: Spanish Influences on Early Cinema in the Philippines" and "Origins of Cinema in Asia.") esagerato October 25th, 2008, 12:10 PM so my family looks ponoy or mexican? :D http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x307/medpaisa18/n629659683_261664_4745.jpg Your family is a white colombian family. They can pass for white Mexicans since many latinos have a lot of similarities in physical features. esagerato October 25th, 2008, 12:14 PM México was not a Spanish speaking country in the 1st place until the 18th century. Education using the Spanish language was instated after Independence from Spain.The same if the Malolos Government was left untouched by the Americans! Then the Filipinos of today would be speaking Spanish. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3053/2953354381_ea62107614_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3019/2954204488_34f172647e_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3018/2954204600_2f70dfa28d_o.jpg http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/el_chico_loco/2953354789_f07247fe3b_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3162/2953354895_d16bb555f8_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3183/2953355013_75bef9e338_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3170/2953355139_1e8e05b983_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3245/2954205334_19b9942be4_o.jpg The Filipino diaspora is at least four hundred years old. For two-and-a-half centuries, Filipinos by the hundreds traveled yearly to Mexico and the Americas, with many electing to stay and find a new life. The chief means for migration was the Manila galleon that sailed between the Philippines and Mexico to carry on a lively trade in Asian goods in exchange for silver from the Americas and the trappings of civilization from the West. The end of the galleon trade in 1815 did not stop the exodus of Filipinos to foreign lands as they began to discover the lure of other exotic ports in Asia and Europe. This book attempts to answer the question often asked: What happened to those Filipinos who started the diaspora? The answers are important because they fill a gap in the long history of this adventurous race. Manila Men in the New World: Filipino Migration to Mexico and the Americas from the Sixteenth Century (http://books.google.com/books?id=OSqhZphG_gQC&pg=PA124&lpg=PA124&dq=nahuatl+in+filipino+words&source=web&ots=rIonqUAwUE&sig=0yy44YTgAFpzTh7UyPAgGjP-veU&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=6&ct=result#PPR5,M1) By Floro L. Mercene Published by University of the Philippines Press, 2007 ISBN 9715425291, 9789715425292 161 pages true indeed!! tigidig14 October 25th, 2008, 12:48 PM si claro.... yo se, yo se... no pasa nada, tio. :nuts: ay..yayaya..y chupacabra amigo32 October 25th, 2008, 12:50 PM cabra?:D Askal82 October 25th, 2008, 04:45 PM The irony lies how the majority of Mexicans, divided by indian tribes each having their own languages don't speak Spanish compared to Philippines at present. Espano_Atx October 25th, 2008, 04:57 PM ay..yayaya..y chupacabra what's with a nanny and a goat-sucking monster have to do with what i said? :lol: anyway, summarazing the recent posts in this thread and the likes in other similar threads i've read.... ugh for the umpteenth time, filipinos are so not spanish - we are asian. we have more in common with our asian brothers than spain, and the only thing spain left is their religion and lastnames. i'm glad we have english to unite the country and translate our history. whew... :lol: oh the story of juan de la cruz http://photos-792.friendster.com/e1/photos/29/78/36508792/1_994678853l.jpg kiretoce October 25th, 2008, 06:40 PM You folks are taking this thread too seriously. No need for debate. Can't you folks just enjoy and appreciate the lighthearted conversation about how Mexicans and Filipinos do look similar and not delve into the historical, cultural, and political aspect and try to out-smart, out-voice, and out-wit each other? manileño October 25th, 2008, 08:00 PM ^^ hmm yea, this thread is starting to sound like Animo's forum, el Foro Filipino hehe! but just a quick reply to some of the statements made here, spanish was actually the Philippines' lingua franca throughout the spanish period lasting until the early 1930s when the commonwealth government was set up. remember Filipino(Tagalog) became official only after WW2.. what could have been the unifying language among the different ethnic groups at that time? cos these people needed to communicate somehow especially when the economy grew in the 1800s and people started becoming mobile and afford to travel. answer: Spanish. :) tagalog people used spanish to communicate with cebuanos and cebuanos with ilocanos, etc. In areas where there were huge concentrations of "migrants" like Cavite/Ternate (where Visayan and certain Mollucan people arrived to work in the shipping industry) and Zamboanga (where Visayans and other filipinos were brought to settle among the native Mindanaons) a creole language developed called Chavacano. Manila was most certainly a Spanish zone since students(ilustrados) and businessmen from Ilocos, the Visayas and all over the country converged there. in other places with little or no interaction with other groups, they used their own (of course)--plus occasional basic spanish when showing up in their municipio to pay taxes hehe. :) it wasnt picked as the sole official language of the First Phil. Republic for no reason.. k back to the telenovela hehe! i believe that, in all of us, manileno looks more spanish, based on his pics btw :lol: thats cos i always wear my sombrero in pics j/k :D Mercato October 25th, 2008, 09:10 PM ^^ hmm yea, this thread is starting to sound like Animo's forum, el Foro Filipino hehe! Not really. I know this thread is supposed to be light and fun, but sometimes new joiners come in, both filipino & foreign and they unconsciously bring in the language & european controversies. IMHO a sound historical & cultural anchor is sometimes needed to provide a much needed prosper perspective - & that is where our amigo comes in, that's all. :) but just a quick reply to some of the statements made here, spanish was actually the Philippines' lingua franca throughout the spanish period lasting until the early 1930s when the commonwealth government was set up. :) it wasnt picked as the sole official language of the First Phil. Republic for no reason.. k back to the telenovela hehe! :lol: thats cos i always wear my sombrero in pics j/k :D I concur on that. The Illustrados were not idiots to pick something out of the blue and enshrine it as National Language in the Malolos Constitution if it wasn't really lingua franca or widely understood or even viable. But things worked out differently and English won in the end game after 1946. On a personal note, I would have preferred to have both English & Spanish as official just like in Puerto Rico, and my mother tongue already in my official pocket. :) Mercato October 25th, 2008, 09:13 PM has anyone seen the movie "Under the Same Moon"? (La Misma Luna) this movie came out early this year and just recently on DVD. its about a mexican boy searching for his mom in the US where shes been working illegally to provide for the kid. America Ferrera's also in the film. anyway there's this mexican actress in the cast who i thought looks sooo Pinay but like everyone in the movie, she was speaking spanish. here i googled her name and pic. http://img5.allocine.fr/acmedia/rsz/434/x/x/x/medias/nmedia/18/63/94/43/18753040.jpg http://media.elsiglodetorreon.com.mx/i/2007/08/19333.jpeg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2110/1746744629_5a8b85fe50.jpg name's Maya Zapata. es increible! Maya Zapata looks like (from certain angles) the former Filipina actress Maricel Laxa now married & a housewife to some celebrity (whose name I forgot again)... :lol: kiretoce October 25th, 2008, 09:15 PM ^^ You sure do know your Pinoy showbiz (to some extent), Mercato. :colgate: _UberGerard_ October 25th, 2008, 09:20 PM do i look filipino? http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3110/img3436ik9.jpg Mercato October 25th, 2008, 09:26 PM ^^ yes, you do... hola! y bienvenido! You sure do know your Pinoy showbiz (to some extent), Mercato. :colgate: :lol: Nah, only up to the time before I left the country. After that, I know next to nothing. :lol: I do need a lot of catching up to do.... now I remember the hubby's surname - I think its either Pangilinan or Panganiban??? kiretoce October 25th, 2008, 09:28 PM ^^ You and me both! :lol: I know next to nothing, except from the ones I get from here on SSC. :colgate: do i look filipino? http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3110/img3436ik9.jpg Yes, you most definitely do! :okay: In fact, you kinda look like thomasian, one of the mods here in the Philippine section. :colgate: |