^^ i know. everyone in this thread's like frickin Filipinos :)
Good day Ozma. :nocrook:

Dito kay Aling Nena's Sari-sari Store (sa may kanto):

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Bili ka ng Kape Barako o kaya Nescafe.

Colonial Mentality is the culprit why we love Starbucks and despise Aling Nena. I'm a self-confessed colonially mentalized person, but that is changing now, now that I discovered that the Philippines was all grand and glorious in the past, THANKS TO SSC!!!!!! I'm quite hoping that The Philippines would bring back its luster and streak, kinda like what is happening to China nowadays.

I still believe in the potential of our country and our people. We are the most blessed in terms of natural resources. Yet, we are unable to utilize this for our benefit. We were among the top 10 happiest people in the world despite all problems that we face in our lives. Therefore, if the government and the people work together, surely a First World Country shall be attainable in 20 years or even earlier as what the government targets.

Yes. The Philippines is worth crying for.

If J. Rizal could sacrifice his life and die for the country, I figured, the least I can do is to constantly shed a little tear for her.

This open letter someone wrote probably sums up how
many feel.

>> Open Letter to Our Leaders this was forwarded to me.seems to be running around the emails of people in the advertising industry. thought i'd share it due to its timeliness, and quite interesting insights. have a nice day!
>>
>>
>> Dear Tita Cory, Senators, Congressmen, Businessmen,
>> Media people, Leftists, and all Bleeding Hearts Out
>> There:

I am angry. And I know that there are many out there who are angrier than I am for the same reason. And that reason is simple. I am sick and tired of all you guys claiming to speak for me and many Filipinos. I feel like screaming every time you mouth words about fighting for my freedom and my rights, when you obviously are just thinking about
yours. You tell me that the essence of democracy is providing every citizen the right to speak his or her mind and make his or her own informed judgments, but you yourselves do not respect my silence and the choices I and many others have made.

In other words, your concept of democracy is limited to having your rights and your freedoms respected, at the expense of ours.

I am utterly flabbergasted that you still do not get it: we already responded to your calls, and our response has been very clear - we chose not to heed your calls to go to EDSA or to Fort Bonifacio because we do not love our country or our freedoms or our rights, but precisely because we love our country even more. Because quite frankly, we are prepared to lose our freedoms and our rights just to move this country forward. You may think that is not correct, you can tell me all the dire warnings about the evils of authoritarian rule, but quite frankly all we see is your pathetic efforts to prop up your cause. You
tell me that you are simply protecting my freedoms and
my rights, but who told you to do that? I assure you
that when I feel that my rights and my freedoms are at a peril, I will stand up and fight for them myself.

You tell us that GMA is not the right person to lead this country because she has done immoral acts. As someone who sees immorality being committed want only in many ways every day and by everyone (yes, including the ones you do), I may have become jaded. But you have not been able to offer me any viable alternative, while GMA has bent over backwards many times to accommodate you while continuing to work hard despite all the obstacles and the brickbats you have thrown
her way. From where I sit, she is the one who has been working really hard to move this country forward while all of you have been so busy with one and only one thing: to make sure she does succeed. So forgive me if I do not want to join you in your moral pissing contest. Forgive me if I have chosen to see things from another perspective.

You say she is the problem. I say, we are the problem, more to the point, I think you are a bigger problem than she is. Taking her out may solve part of the problem, but that leaves us with a bigger problem: you. That is right, YOU!

While I felt outraged that she called a Comelec official during the elections and that she may have rigged the elections, I have since then taken the higher moral ground and forgiven her. Yes my dear bishops, I have done what you have told me to do since I was a child, which you say is the Christian and moral thing to do: forgive. Especially since she
has asked for forgiveness and has tried to make amends for it.

Erap certainly has not apologized and continues to be defiant, continuing to insult us everyday with his protestations. Cory has not apologized for her incompetence but we have forgiven her just the same because like GMA, she has worked hard after all. I know you do not think that GMA's apology was not enough, or that she was insincere, or that that apology should not be the end of it, but please spare me the hypocrisy of telling me that you do so for the sake of protecting the moral fiber of society.

The real reason is because you smell blood and want to go for the kill.
Well, I have news for you. I do not like her too. I did not even vote for her. I voted for Raul Roco. But as much as I do not like her, I do not like you
even more. I may not trust her, but guess what; I do not trust you even more.

You know why? Because all you do is whine and sabotage this country. You belittle every little progress we make; conveniently forgetting that it is not just GMA who has been working so hard to achieve
them. Every single day, we keep the faith burning in our hearts that this country will finally pull itself out of the mess and we work so hard to do
that. Every little progress is the result of our collective effort, we who toil hard everyday in our jobs. Yet, you persist in one and only thing:
making GMA look bad in the eyes of the world and making
sure that this country continues to suffer to prove your sorry point. In the process, you continue to destroy what we painstakingly try to build. So please do not be surprised that I do not share your cause. Do not
be surprised that we have become contemptuous of your antics. You have moved heaven and earth to destroy her credibility, you have convened all kinds of fora and hearings and all you have done is test
our patience to the core. For all your effort, you have only succeeded in dragging us further down. I say enough.

Don't get me wrong. I am not asking that we take immorality lying down, or that we let the President get away with anything illegal. But you have tried to prove your accusations all these time and you have
not succeeded, so it is time to let things be. Besides, you are doing something immoral as well if not utterly unforgivable. The Magdalo soldiers are consorting with the communists - the same people
who have been trying to kill democracy for years. Cory has
been consorting with Erap and the Marcoses. So please wake up and take a reality check.

In the absence of true and genuine moral leadership, many of us have decided to cast our lot with the President, even if we do not like her. A flawed leader is better than scheming power hungry fools who can not even stand up for their convictions in the face of an impending arrest.
Your coup attempts and the denials that you have consequently made only underscore what we think is true: you are spineless and unreliable people whose only defense is to cry suppression when your ruse does not work. You are like bullies who taunt and provoke, but cry oppression when taken to task for your cruelty.

I would have respected you if you took the consequences of your actions like real heroes: calmly and responsibly instead of kicking and screaming and making lame excuses. You say you are willing to die
for us, that you do all these things for the country and the Filipino, but you are not even willing to go to jail for us.

Come on, you really think we believe that you did not want to bring down the government when that is the one and only thing you have been trying to do in the last many months?

We love this country and we want peace and progress.

Many among us do not give a f*&k who sits at Malacanang because we will work hard and do our share to make things work. If you only do your
jobs, the ones that we elected you to do, things would be a lot simpler and easier for every one.

The events during the weekend only proved one thing. You are more dangerous and a serious threat to this country than GMA is. We have seen what you are capable of doing - you are ready to burn this
country and reduce everything to ashes just to prove your point. If there is something that we need protection from, it is protection from you.

^^nice..direct and to the point.

hope someone can mail that to all our politicians especially those belonging to the opposition..


matanda na si cory im sure malapit na ang araw niya.. i just hate that gurang!!!


MABUHAY ANG PILIPINAS

^^Why can't they just disappear noh? They are huge pains in the Filipino's a**!!!

They say that PGMA's legitimacy is questionable since she allegedly cheated the last elections. But what is more important? For me, forgiveness... That's why our politics s*ck. Whenever she commits mistakes, it is already a reason for her to be out of the Presidency. Is the country worth crying for? Yes, because God loves us and He provided us with all that we need. Although, we are unable to use them for our benefit.

Colonial Mentality is the culprit why we love Starbucks and despise Aling Nena. I'm a self-confessed colonially mentalized person, but that is changing now, now that I discovered that the Philippines was all grand and glorious in the past, THANKS TO SSC!!!!!! I'm quite hoping that The Philippines would bring back its luster and streak, kinda like what is happening to China nowadays.

Nothing has change after Marcos was kicked out of office.

From that letter, actually that was a letter from S.C. Austero's blog site that was e-mailed to a lot of people, but this one seems edited without those nice hard to understand english words.

He said :
Because quite frankly, we are prepared to lose our freedoms and our rights just to move this country forward. :runaway:

Not my exact sentiments, anyways everyone is entitled to his/her opinion the current situation in The Philippines and about this letter.


As for me, Is the Philippines Worth Crying For? Nah! why cry when you can fight for your own country.

Magsentimental or emote-emote and cry cry kayo, lalo kayong abusuhin ng Gobierno.

You should fight for your own country. :horse:

hope someone can mail that to all our politicians especially those belonging to the opposition..


matanda na si cory im sure malapit na ang araw niya.. i just hate that gurang!!!


MABUHAY ANG PILIPINAS


nakaka bwisit ang pakikialam ni cory sa pulitika ngayon.. OA na OA.. lalo na yung pagpunta nya sa Fort Boni.. para magdasal daw sa chapel dun.. this was during the AFP military standoff.. madami naman syang pwede dasalan na simbahan, ba't dun pa? nakikisawsaw ba...

Maybe we need something like a miracle?! :tongue3:

for me.... the philippines is still worth crying for

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Our ancestors have passed their traditional beliefs from one generation after the other. To some indigenous tribes, traditional beliefs are the gospel truth. Through time, some of our traditional beliefs have been eclipsed by scientific principles.

Indian, Chinese, Arabian, Spanish, Mexican, and American belief systems have contributed to our own set of beliefs.

There are folk beliefs about the es of illnesses. Though some tribes believe certain maladies have a biological origin such as overeating, poor diet, excessive drinking, infections, and accidents, there are still other groups who believe that spirits and elementals can also be a cause for a number of illnesses. The belief in the supernatural is the primary reason why up to this day Filipinos have a surplus of albularyos or quack-doctors.

Traits, on the other hand, vary from one person to another and in a collective sense; it varies from one nation to another. Every country has its own set of traits. They are molded from influences from another person or from another culture. This holds true in our country, as the Americans, Spanish and other countries that made constant interactions with our fellowmen through the years have influenced us.

Because of this mix of influences, we came up with a set of traits and influences that we can call our own.

wag daw maglagay ng unan sa weput, magiging flat

wag daw maligo pag mabaho babango ka.

OMG... someone tell me if this is true or not...

"If you pull out a white hair from your head, you'll grow 5 more..."

I'm scared!

"Wag matutulog na basa ang buhok, mabubulag ka."

wag umupo sa unan magkakapigsa ka.

wag batukan ang ulo bobobo ka

pag nabatukan ka, tap mo yung baba mo pataas para di ka maging bobo..:hilarious:

pagkumembot daw, kailangan merong holahop, pag nde masisira yung hips mo

onga, kundi tabingi na hips mo for life..tsk tsk

kung nalulungkot ka kausapen mo sarile mo.

kung wala kang magawa batukan mo yung katabe mo para siya maging bobo. :lol:

Kung gusto mong gumwapo tumabe ka raw sa panget.

Wag daw maligo sa gabi, kokonti ang dugo mo at mas madali kang mamatay.

wag daw matulog na basa ang buhok...mababasa din yung unan..:lol:

malas daw 'yung no.13..................

maghugas daw pagkatapos tumae.. :bash:

Here's another superstition:

You will not grow tall if you were circumcised young.

maghugas daw pagkatapos tumae.. :bash:

Huwag gagamitin panghugas ng puwet yung kamay na ginagamit pagsubo ng pagkain kung nakakamay. :lol: :bash:

Here's another superstition:

You will not grow tall if you were circumcised young.

kaya pala ang tangkad ni Bonel Balingit. :jk:

There is a certain place here in negros that i know that is witched. This are things that you should pay attention once you are in there.

On your way to the old house in witched forest if a stranger calls u don't let him whisper in your ear becoz it is vodoo.

And don't talk to stragers you meet becoz they are evil spirits and will do u harm.

When the clock hits midnight hour you must close your eyes and must not see the dark places around you and you must your eyes so would not listen on what sounds you may hear. Because the darkness that you find can come out of your mind.

And don't go to the edge of rainbows there is evil in there waiting for u.

Don't hide or stay behind the doorways.

Don't write in starlight.

Don't go to the altar of the old house and pray becoz behind it is a gate to hell.

Don't wish on a falling star coz you could open up the door of the other world.

Don't dance in darkness becoz when u stumble u are sure to die.

Don't smell the flowers in the witched forest or the old house gardens becoz it has an evil spell to make you loose your mind.

Don't go or come near with the naked women in the river becoz they are water demons and they will hypnotize then eat you.

When u leave the old house never look back at it and never turn regarless of what if you do the darkness in that house will follow you.

:jk: hehe :)

I heard this one a long time ago. Don't sleep with your feet facing the door. It's a sign of death. Now, is that really true? :dunno:

^^is that feng shui^ oh my god my bed is right in front of the door. and i often dream of demons pulling or attacking me.

I heard this one a long time ago. Don't sleep with your feet facing the door. It's a sign of death. Now, is that really true? :dunno:

i've always slept with my feet facing the door. so far, nothing has happened.

oh, i heard that if a pregnant woman eats twin bananas, she's gonna have twins.

^^is that feng shui^ oh my god my bed is right in front of the door. and i often dream of demons pulling or attacking me.

Maybe it's time to rearrange your bedroom Marites. ;)

kaya nga superstition tawag e? why ask if its true..

One thing I noticed in The Philippines especially in Manila is the popularity and usage of skin whitening products. They may be Block & White, Ponds or Extraderm but I noticed that alot of Filipinas in The Philippines would like to have fair skin. It's a big contrast compared to alot of Filipina-Americans who would prefer "chocolate brown" skin :D

What do you think?

^^ Not just women are using skin whitening products but also guys... Based on a school survey, 37.45% of the class use papaya whitening soaps. :D

^^ Not just women are using skin whitening products but also guys... Based on a school survey, 37.45% of the class use papaya whitening soaps. :D

That's believable :D

i need this very badly haha

^^ I only use the whitening stuff for elbows, knees and other darker areas only no need to use it for the rest of my body, I now love my tan, papasa nang tall, dark, and handsome... ay, di pala ako tall, yung dalawa na lang. hehe :D

I have a super farmer's tan. I am sun-bronze on my lower legs and my lower arms but where my socks and my clothes are, I'm as pale as hell. :( Maybe I should use that papaya soap to get rid of it...
Do they actually work?

^^lol! same here due to too much tennis under the sun. pero hindi naman super pale sa covered areas hehe!

One thing I noticed in The Philippines especially in Manila is the popularity and usage of skin whitening products. They may be Block & White, Ponds or Extraderm but I noticed that alot of Filipinas in The Philippines would like to have fair skin. It's a big contrast compared to alot of Filipina-Americans who would prefer "chocolate brown" skin :D

What do you think?
I've read an article somewhere hindi lang naman Filipinos ang gumagamit nyan pati Thais, Indons, Malays, other Asians at mga Africans.




Sa akin dapat pantay lang ang kulay; kulay ng batok , elbow, singit, hehehe

http://www.herword.com/aiadw/quirino/cory.jpg

Cory Quirino is endorsing a whitening soap: Oil & Herbs Pineapple with Papaya. And I heard it works.

http://www.herword.com/aiadw/quirino/cory2.jpg

Big confession: she's my crush...he he...

I tried papaya skin whitening soaps while I was back in the Philippines because I was curious if it really lighten up your skin. However, it doesn't really work when I was using them. Myth busted!!

i think i need me some of these whitening products

I tried papaya skin whitening soaps while I was back in the Philippines because I was curious if it really lighten up your skin. However, it doesn't really work when I was using them. Myth busted!!

What brand did you use? Because when I used Silka Green Papaya Soap, it really whitened me up (lol). The results aren't instant, you need about more than a week to see changes...

Mahilig pala yung mga guys magpaputi? I think I prefer kayumanggi men. But then, it really depends on the person. My first bf though was fair, even if my preference in men are kayumanggi.

What brand did you use? Because when I used Silka Green Papaya Soap, it really whitened me up (lol). The results aren't instant, you need about more than a week to see changes...

I dunno. I tried a variety of them including silka. It doesn't seem to have any effect on me.

My German brother-in-law gumamit pa ng machine, i forgot what it's called, to make his skin darker. Hindi ako nakatiis nung una ko syang makita, tanong ko bakit hindi sya maputing-maputi. sabi nya nagpadark daw sya ng skin para pagpunta nya ng pinas hindi mabigla yung skin nya sa init ng araw. sa tingin ko hindi lang yun ang dahilan para siguro hindi sya magmukhang alien pagkatabi ang mga dark skinned pinoys. hehehe

I dunno. I tried a variety of them including silka. It doesn't seem to have any effect on me.


yung gawa ng unilever effective siguro, napansin ng mga kasama ko eh.


ayoko nang maputing-maputi yung okay lang, ayoko ring baluga. hehehe

Aw, geez--time for "truth or dare": in high school, I'd use Eskinol for my zit problem, and it worked wonders in clearing acne. Plus, I'd preempt any "bleaching" effects by surfing and spending my days at the beach w/ the beachboy barkada :)

ive tan before but it was one of those free try out $10/month and if you dont like the result, you can get that 10 bucks back after a month of tyring which i did, ha-ha

Do people really still prefer to look mestizo these days? I thought it'd be something society would have blown over by now.

Dark is beautiful. I love going to the beach during summertime partly because it gives me this golden-brown hue that light skinned people can never have.

Well, I'll say, I prefer golden brown skin. Not too white, not too dark on men. ;) Yun lang, I'm just being skin-deep now. But we all know, attraction is more than skin-deep.

Ha ha, cute and funny thread...LOL

Ever thought about inquiring these things from no other than Mr Michael Jackson??LOL

Many peepz says I look better with lightly tanned skin rather than lighter skin. Besides, it doesn't leave those freckles common to the ones who have naturally fair ones. Wag lang yung baluga. :lol:

http://www.herword.com/aiadw/quirino/cory.jpg

Cory Quirino is endorsing a whitening soap: Oil & Herbs Pineapple with Papaya. And I heard it works.

http://www.herword.com/aiadw/quirino/cory2.jpg

Big confession: she's my crush...he he...
how old is she now? Is she almost 60?

how old is she now? Is she almost 60?

He said Cory Quirino, not Cory Aquino. lol.

how old is she now? Is she almost 60?

Yeah, she's 56 or 57.

He said Cory Quirino, not Cory Aquino. lol.
cory Aquino is almost 80.
I know cory quirino is almost 60 and so is vicky belo.
they have magic power skin or magic scalpel.

Well, I'll say, I prefer golden brown skin. Not too white, not too dark on men. ;) Yun lang, I'm just being skin-deep now. But we all know, attraction is more than skin-deep.
Mahilig pala yung mga guys magpaputi? I think I prefer kayumanggi men. But then, it really depends on the person. My first bf though was fair, even if my preference in men are kayumanggi.Hala, lagot, I'm definitely not kayumanggi... bawas ba sa score ko 'yan? :lol: :jk:

Back to the topic... when I visited my sister in Taiwan, they also had skin-whitening ads on TV. Seems like even though most of them are already quite fair, it's still not enough. :dunno:

I have a super farmer's tan. I am sun-bronze on my lower legs and my lower arms but where my socks and my clothes are, I'm as pale as hell. :( Maybe I should use that papaya soap to get rid of it...
Do they actually work?

Or you can use skin darkening products to make the rest of your body match... they have that spray on tan product (be careful don't use too much or you will turn orange). Or you can just walk around in the buff in your backyard.

^^ Reminds me of an episode of Friends. :lol:

Ayun pala! Kung hindi ka kayumanggi Andy... alam mo na ngayon ang pwede mong gawin! Spray or buff!

^^ :rofl: Funny... hmmmm, I think I prefer buff. :jk:

^^ So when I see you the next time, you will all be sporting a buffed tan eh? lol. You will certainly look like John Lone (the star in The Last Emperor) then. ;)

Yeah, she's 56 or 57.

If she looks that hot at that age, I'll surely buy her products!

^puro hatak na siguro yan, LIL
in na in na daw si Dra. Bello e

My youngest bro and I were the ones who did not inherit any of the Spanish "meztizoness" from my mom's side. For a while we took the brunt of jokes for being dark complexioned (well compared to them). I remember when we were young, my mom's Spanish titas would keep asking her why my bro and I were so dark and that she should keep us from playing in the sun. I would cry back then. Wahahaha! :lol: But of course now, I love my color since I always get complemented for my "tan" by the white folk. :)

I have a medium tan. It complements my dark brownish hair. I'm light-skinned, however, I'm exposed to the sun because of weekly swimming, daily running and biking every now and then.

I like sun bathing wherever and whenever the opportunity presents. I have nothing against those who use skin-whitening products but I love my tan!

Though I'm a sun freak I never forget to take care of my skin to avoid the risk of skin cancer. I use sunblock SPF15. My preferred brands are Nivea and Banana Boat. After a prolonged sun exposure, I apply an after-sun soothing cream from Anthony Logistics.

wala akong choice... hanggang 1 month lang ang tinatagal ng tan ko (when i get tanned by the sun)

Do people really still prefer to look mestizo these days? I thought it'd be something society would have blown over by now.

Dark is beautiful. I love going to the beach during summertime partly because it gives me this golden-brown hue that light skinned people can never have.

I think it depends on who you ask. Maybe its a fact that dark-skinned people wants lighter skin while those who has pale skin wants it tanned. Pero may point naman yun kasi bagay nga naman dun sa mga mestisuhin yung medyo tanned skin tulad ni Rich Hererra, pangit siya pag hindi sya nakapagpa-tan, si Piolo na pinoy na pinoy naman ang dating eh bagay yung hindi masyadong tanned, parang ganun. Parang ang concept yata dun eh yung "kakaiba ka", kasi pinoy ang dating mo pero di ka sunog, or mestisuhin ka pero tanned ka.

Pero ngayon, I prefer my skin as it is, medium-tanned, very marketable. :D

I haven't used skin whitening products. My skin was so pale when I was younger. Now it has a yellow-orange shade. My skin turns Olive under prolong sun exposure.
The only thing I've used is the SPF lotion (sun protection formula) during summer.

ako naman, di aku ganun ka-puti, ako ata pinakamaitim sa magkakapatid... Di rin ako gumamit ng whitening soap etc... hahaha, wala na kung paki eh, bastah may sabon sa banyu... :D My classmates say na maputi ako, pero hindi naman talaga. :)

nung araw ang gamit na pangpaputi e yung panghilod o batong na napupulot lang sa gilid-gilid, o kaya kaskasin lang yung ilalim ng paa sa gilid ng semeneto. ngayon pa-sponge sponge pang nalalaman with combination body wash :lol:

maputi raw ako pero mukhang nangitim na dahil labas nang labas....

Its sad. I think Filipinos with dark skin look alot better than those alien looking Filipinos with extremely pale skin. It just doesn't look right.

But anyways, here in America, Black people are the same way. Except they don't use skin whitening products becuase we don't have them here. But I think if we did, Black people would certainly be using them. Lighter skinned Blacks often look down on the darker ones. In school, they often make fun of someone who is "too black" But then again, White people will make fun of someone who is too pale. So basically what i'm trying to say is nobody is happy with their skin color...

... this is a sad reality for us filipinos, the market is taking advantage of our colonial metality and created a market for whitening cream! hehehe...
... i work in Singapore for a couple of years, but i have never seen any commercials about whitening cream... and the average malay women with their darker complexion are prettier than our average pinays... :) maybe its their eyes and their smiles that caught my attention but really :)... and even here in toronto i never seen one...

... and just a note when it comes to cleanliness, looks can be deceiving... eyes can deceive you most of the times, use your nose! :D

im fine with my color no need for that whitening tanning or darkening.. hhehehe
I use any kind of soap that is in the house i don't care what brand or effects they have i used even use pearla before when there is no soap around.. ahahah

Then there is this one time when i was kid maybe around 5 or 6 years old i use tide as a soap becoz there was no soap then after that my skin kinda hurt and irratated wehehe. :)

ako naman, di aku ganun ka-puti, ako ata pinakamaitim sa magkakapatid... Di rin ako gumamit ng whitening soap etc... hahaha, wala na kung paki eh, bastah may sabon sa banyu... :D My classmates say na maputi ako, pero hindi naman talaga. :)

Maputi ka kaya dun sa mga prom pics mo! Buti na lang di ka na ganun kaputi ngayon, based on your avatar mas gwapo ka pag di ka maputi kaya wag matakot sa araw pero dont forget the sun protection ha, baka magka skin cancer ka kasi eh. :D

Maputi ka kaya dun sa mga prom pics mo! Buti na lang di ka na ganun kaputi ngayon, based on your avatar mas gwapo ka pag di ka maputi kaya wag matakot sa araw pero dont forget the sun protection ha, baka magka skin cancer ka kasi eh. :D

^^ ok... hahaha :lol: dami mu namang alam... hahaha, kaya ako umitim sa avatar, kasi yung yellow light sa room ko... hahaha... pero sa personal hindi ako yung maputing type :D

- wag daw magwalis sa gabi lalabas ang pera..

- wag magreregalo ng panyo.. iiyak ung binigyan..


* to know more read 'don't take a bath on a friday'

Some pinoy superstitious belief ...

SHADOWS: Our shadow is our soul. People who think don't have any shadow will be mistakenly know as a devil.

STAIRS/LADDERS: When you step on a stair or a ladder while asking for something it will be there.
If a woman walks under a stair or ladder she will not be married that year.

LIGHTNING: Lightning never hits the same place twice. Over the centuries people had believed that if lightning strikes, this is a sign that God is angry.

TEETH AND NAILS: If your front teeth have a big gap this is a signs of good luck. The bigger the gap is, the more likely you will have a better chance in life.
When a toddler loses his first tooth you must burn it or give it to the squirrels, so as the toddler grown up, he/she will have strong permanent teeth. If a baby grew its teethe earlier than expected there is a chance that he/she will have a brother or a sister.
If you cut your nail on Saturday or on Friday,bad luck is on the way.

WEDDINGS: The groom can only see the bride inside the church on their wedding day.
The bride should not look at herself at the mirror before the ceremony begins.
If your wedding gown was ruined or a ring fell, you're marrying an abusive man.

BIRTHDAY: If you were born at midnight, you will see the soul of your loved ones that have died.
If you were born in the morning, you will have a long life.
If you were born in the afternoon or at night, you are a lazy person.
If you were born in the morning, you will be a coward.

i hate reading all these stuff although i dont believe
it'll be a thing to follow which i dont want myself seeing

There is a certain place here in negros that i know that is witched. This are things that you should pay attention once you are in there.

Don't go or come near with the naked women in the river becoz they are water demons and they will hypnotize then eat you.

Naked women? Oh wow!
Eat me? Oh la la!!
Can you give me a DETAILED and SPECIFIC turn by turn instructions on how to get to this place..............so I can avoid it? :jk:

IMHO ironic sa pagiging cathoic nation natin ang paniniwala natin sa mga superstirion..take for example this belief "bawal mag cut nails sa gabi, kasi may mamamatay daw or sumthing.." WTF? why would god allow death in the family dahil lang sa may nag cut nails? or even yung bawal magsuklay sa burol etc...

kaya ako..pagdataing sa superstition..sinusuway ko..lalo na sa mga die hard na sumusonod nyan..sinasabi ko na nagpapaniwala ka sa mga pamahiin..akala ko ba kristyano ka?

wala lang,....just a thought

* to know more read 'don't take a bath on a friday'
bat ba nde pedeng maligo ng friday, sana sabado na lang since walang pasok :lol:

excuse lang yun ng mga tamad maligo..haha

bat ba nde pedeng maligo ng friday, sana sabado na lang since walang pasok :lol:


- may pasok aq ng sabado e.. sana sunday nlng.. tas monday n ulit ligo.. hehe.. kung ikw ang tipo ng tao na paniniwalaan lhat un.. mgmumukha ka nang taong grasa.. hehe.. :)

Yung bawal maligo ng Viernes, para lang sa Viernes Santo iyan. It is not 'pamahiin' or superstition but a religious practice for earlier Catholics. During Lenten Friday, Catholics are supposed to abstain from any forms of luxury or revelry in remembrance of the passion of Christ. Bathing then was considered a luxury so during the Friday of Lent, people are not supposed to take a bath.

basta for me..wether for fun or for real...following pamahiins is a big no-no

^^ Paano kung sabihin sa iyo na-- not following pamahiins is a pamahiin?

it isnt...for me kasi following pamahiins is contradictory to my christianity..

but i respect those who follow superstituous beliefs naman..pero when others influence me to follow pamahiins..then thats another story :)

^ wala. I'm just messin with ya just like those superstitions mess with people's minds. Yeah, you're right. :)

When I was younger, I think I had a mild form of OCD because I thought my day will not turn out right when I stepped on cracks and crevices on the floor. So I would skip and hop on my way to my classroom because the floor then were square tiles and I could not step on the tile grooves.

Then, nagagalit ako when someone opens an umbrella inside the house.

Nakakasira talaga yang superstitions when you let that affect you.

I remembered an old lady telling me to fold my umbrella down once I stepped inside my high school building and asked her why (I went to HS here in NYC). She told me that you are inviting bad luck. At first it sounded silly to me but oh well, it's probably human nature to believe into something that is unproven. I mean it really won't harm you to believe into something you think it's foolish or silly does it?

I have my own personal superstitions... you know-- we are creatures of habit.. Like yesterday, I wasn't able to do what I normally do in the mornings as a result of waking up 10 minutes after I'm supposed to be at work. The rest of my day was a wreck. Now the extent to which you allow these practices to affect your day I guess can be psychosomatic. Like "Ugh I didn't get my morning poop in. I didn't get my morning coffee in, nor my morning newspaper. How can I survive?" And with that knowledge of a missed ritual or a practice done wrong can affect the flow of tides, so to speak.

Superstitions? I guess I have many. And they have nothing at all to do with my spirituality. These "old wives tales," yeah they can affect your day too. And they're there and they're as real as you make them. Believing in them doesn't make you crazy. Disbelief in them doesn't make them any less real.

^^I think it has something to do with our mental wiring? :crazy:

Like when you came to New York and it was thunderous when it wasn't supposed to be rainy season. I thought ... hmmm... ominous signs. lol.

I remembered an old lady telling me to fold my umbrella down once I stepped inside my high school building and asked her why (I went to HS here in NYC). She told me that you are inviting bad luck. At first it sounded silly to me but oh well, it's probably human nature to believe into something that is unproven. I mean it doesn't really harm you to believe into something you think it's foolish or silly doesn't it?

well for me it is in direct contradiction, and at times an insult to my being catholic..like when they say na bawal mag cut ng nails at night coz may mamamatay,or in a wake, yung bawal daw magpaalam sa relatives ng namatayan dapat daw kasi wag na magpaalam diretso na lang umalis...stuff like that..isnt that actually an insult to your being christian? i mean its just the same as believing that the lord will allow death just because you followed a silly pamahiin..(like cutting fingernails at night)..di ba insulto kay lord yun?

^^ Hindi talaga ako naniniwala dyan sa kasabihan na 'yan pero kung maiiwasan ko na maapektuhan ko yung psyche ng iba, nag-comply na lang ako. Kung meron naman hindi mag-comply, iisipin ko na lang sa isip ko... "cancel cancel". lol

kaya ako..pagdataing sa superstition..sinusuway ko..lalo na sa mga die hard na sumusonod nyan..sinasabi ko na nagpapaniwala ka sa mga pamahiin..akala ko ba kristyano ka?

wala lang,....just a thought

Ano ang masasabi mo sa Christian teaching na bawal magpahula. Eh minsan, may Manghuhula Fest, nagpahula ako for fun. Sinuway ko ba yung Christian teaching? Naging makasalanan ba ako?

if for fun, ok lang siguro..pero if you take it seriously..ewan..depende na sa yo yun..

ito naman ay sa akin lang...

Ako, for fun lang, tapos may nag-quote sa Bible not to engage in the occult and they say that fortune-telling is part of occultism. I don't know.

But perhaps those who are heavily reliant on these so-called "psychics" lack faith in the Higher Being who will direct their lives accordingly if they live in a righteous manner. O, sounding preachy na ba?

Like ganito-- diba superstition kung may gusto mong mangyari kaya hindi mo iisipin masyado para hindi ka ma-jinx? It's just about making things real in your head. So whether or not combing your hair at night before you sleep is bad, it's not that it reflects badly on your christianity or whatever, but the moment a mental suggestion happens, things can become real. It's about how you imagine things being. So superstitions are not catholic, but they are real.

well for me it is in direct contradiction, and at times an insult to my being catholic..like when they say na bawal mag cut ng nails at night coz may mamamatay,or in a wake, yung bawal daw magpaalam sa relatives ng namatayan dapat daw kasi wag na magpaalam diretso na lang umalis...stuff like that..isnt that actually an insult to your being christian? i mean its just the same as believing that the lord will allow death just because you followed a silly pamahiin..(like cutting fingernails at night)..di ba insulto kay lord yun?

Insult kay Lord? That's a good one :lol:
Well, I saw this T.V. show 'Taboo' on National Geographic Channel and was amazed at the great lengths these people will take in the name of faith. Philippines was featured through the town of Pampanga where some gutsy individuals flog themselves with hard, and spiky vines or allow themselves to be crucified in public during the Lenten season. The funny part is that the nails are sterilized in alcohol to prevent themselves from having tetanus after performing the ritual. :lol:

Like ganito-- diba superstition kung may gusto mong mangyari kaya hindi mo iisipin masyado para hindi ka ma-jinx? It's just about making things real in your head. So whether or not combing your hair at night before you sleep is bad, it's not that it reflects badly on your christianity or whatever, but the moment a mental suggestion happens, things can become real. It's about how you imagine things being. So superstitions are not catholic, but they are real.

Yeah just like the Chinese philosophical concept of Wu Wei which means to let things happen smoothly. Let things flow without pressure.

minsan naman pag may nag iinfluence sakin to follow superstitiuous practices sinasagot ko na lang ng pabiro ng "ano ako intsik?" sabay tawa..(no offense to my tsinoy friends ha)

I'm sure you have superstitions. Do you look left and right before crossing the street?

This is a superstition: Look left and right before crossing street or else you will be run over.

Many of these old wives tales are based in a practical past. Like the biblical rules against eating "dirty" foods like pork or shellfish. It was a matter of hygiene (and a practical defense against sickness from hookworks or red tide), and it became religion.

oi practical naman yun.lols

what i mean is yung talagang superstitious na na practice

The human mind seeks to establish some sort of ritual. A pattern. A practice to calm it. This is the reason why most prayers are repetitive and rote incantations and mantras.

It is good to discard the mind of things that will weigh heavily on actions. When a vulnerable young mind is exposed to these guilt-laden but seemingly illogical superstitious beliefs, the suggestion becomes a self-fulfilling expectation.

I'm sure you have superstitions. Do you look left and right before crossing the street?

This is a superstition: Look left and right before crossing street or else you will be run over.

Many of these old wives tales are based in a practical past. Like the biblical rules against eating "dirty" foods like pork or shellfish. It was a matter of hygiene (and a defense against hookworks or red tide), not religion.

Some old wive's tales are actually proven like the drinking chicken soup when you're sick or have colds.

How can looking left and right before crossing the street be a supersition? It is simply common sense.

Why is there such thing as "sukob"? Why can't one just get married in the same year as a sibling without these being treated as a harbinger of bad luck for the second couple?

Let me ask you Gravy. Will you risk it just to prove a point? Or will you rather just follow?

i think if its a superstituous practice na may scientific backing then its ok..its those silly beliefs..(esp those that they say will bring misfortune if not followed) that i am against..

Well, it might be true. Maybe in the future when vehicles will be equipped with anti-gravity devices so they don't travel on ground, there is simply no reason to look left and right or else you might get run-over. It might be treated as a superstition.

Well, it might be true. Maybe in the future when vehicles will be equipped with anti-gravity devices so they don't travel on ground, there is simply no reason to look left and right or else you might get run-over. It might be treated as a superstition.


joke time na ba?

Point ko kasi-- yung mga pamahiin natin, siguro may talagang practical na roots na hindi na natin nakikita dahil ang agham natin ay nag tagumpay.

Siguro nga noong araw, sa isang tribu maraming namatay dahil ang kama nila ay nasa harap nang pintuan. Siguro biglang lumamig at nagka pulmoniya silang lahat. At ang dahilan na naabot nila ay ang posisyon nang kama. Hindi maaring ma sagot kung ano ang dahilan nang mga pamahiin dahil nawala na ito sa kasaysayan. Pero ang dahilan nila ay talagang katotohanan para sa mga taong nakaranas.

We see our headcheck before crossing the streets as smart practices-- even common sensical practice. But to an alien who has never seen a car, common sensical practices are as good as superstititions. Common sense is something that is kind of arrived at in a suspersition-like manner. Someone believes something because it saves their lives, spreads the word, and then all of the sudden it's rational and real.

i think if its a superstituous practice na may scientific backing then its ok..its those silly beliefs..(esp those that they say will bring misfortune if not followed) that i am against..

I think all superstitions have no scientific basis. There cannot really be established an observable causal connection.

Do you remember Fraggle Rock? There was one episode when the crazy Fraggle who decided to venture into the land of the humans as a scientist and adventurer noticed that humans had strange practices whenever it started raining. They would take their rain sticks and start shaking them loose and then hoist them above their heads. When he wrote back to his nephew to explain about this process, they all looked at it as a strange, mystical superstition. When in reality, people were just opening their umbrellas to protect them from the rain. It's the context of the practice that is the fine line between "superstition" and practical knowledge.

Why is there such thing as "sukob"? Why can't one just get married in the same year as a sibling without these being treated as a harbinger of bad luck for the second couple?

Let me ask you Gravy. Will you risk it just to prove a point? Or will you rather just follow?

hmmm i havent even heard of it..pero lets say ayaw talaga ng fiancee ko kasi naniniwala sya, then sige na lang (kaysa naman pag-awayan pa namin yun) pero kung ako lang, and payag naman sya then why not?diba?

ganito lang kasi yun, (oo para na akong sirang plaka..lols) pero isnt this just tantamount to you not trusting the lord? for me, unless its written in the bible na bawal(were talking superstition here ha, baka may pilosopo tasyo na naman jan) then hindi ko susundin

Point ko kasi-- yung mga pamahiin natin, siguro may talagang practical na roots na hindi na natin nakikita dahil ang agham natin ay nag tagumpay.

Siguro nga noong araw, sa isang tribu maraming namatay dahil ang kama nila ay nasa harap nang pintuan. Siguro biglang lumamig at nagka pulmoniya silang lahat. At ang dahilan na naabot nila ay ang posisyon nang kama. Hindi maaring ma sagot kung ano ang dahilan nang mga pamahiin dahil nawala na ito sa kasaysayan. Pero ang dahilan nila ay talagang katotohanan para sa mga taong nakaranas.

We see our headcheck before crossing the streets as smart practices-- even common sensical practice. But to an alien who has never seen a car, common sensical practices are as good as superstititions. Common sense is something that is kind of arrived at in a suspersition-like manner. Someone believes something because it saves their lives, spreads the word, and then all of the sudden it's rational and real.

Yeah, although not scientific, it may be metaphysical. But in metaphysics, too, our thoughts direct our actions. We should not allow actions to direct our thoughts. Because if we start thinking, "oh, because we did this or did that, or not able to do this or that, something bad will happen." Then, we become paralyzed and not able to govern our thoughts to overcome this negative reaction.

may mga kasabihan kasi, like in feng shui (not the movie ok) na may practical basis..and for that, ive no qualms following them

joke time na ba?

I'm not joking. There is a possibility to that. Reread Mike's (Boybaha) comment about how we treat superstitions now might have some practical connections in the past. I considered the scenario that this is the past and in the future, vehicles will be traveling on air or even space, so looking left and right before crossing might be considered a superstition because it's practicallity ceases by that time it happens. Who knows?

hmmm i havent even heard of it..pero lets say ayaw talaga ng fiancee ko kasi naniniwala sya, then sige na lang (kaysa naman pag-awayan pa namin yun) pero kung ako lang, and payag naman sya then why not?diba?

ganito lang kasi yun, (oo para na akong sirang plaka..lols) pero isnt this just tantamount to you not trusting the lord? for me, unless its written in the bible na bawal(were talking superstition here ha, baka may pilosopo tasyo na naman jan) then hindi ko susundin

Ano kaya ang reaction ng fiancee mo kung sabihin mo sa kanya, "oy insult to the Lord yan"?

You're so mean lili. :lol:

malay, di ko pa na try..di pa naman ako ikakasal eh :P

Every single superstition in this world drives anybody to act stupid.

I am white as snow in the winter, pink in the summers hehehe sun does not "bite" on me. We are all beautiful with whatever skincolour we have...what I prefer? A warm heart, a soft touch, a loving smile, peace on earth.. I do not care what colour the skin has..:)

i only use papaya for my lib_gness...lol

i only use papaya for my lib_gness...lol
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Why?

I don't know if this one's true but a lot of peeps believe that papaya lessens one's testosterone levels. So if you're feeling malibog and can't find an "outlet" na pwedeng saksakan, kain ka na lang ng papaya. Hehehe

gamit ko dati, Kissa soap and Likas hehehehe!

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Our ancestors have passed their traditional beliefs from one generation after the other. To some indigenous tribes, traditional beliefs are the gospel truth. Through time, some of our traditional beliefs have been eclipsed by scientific principles.

Indian, Chinese, Arabian, Spanish, Mexican, and American belief systems have contributed to our own set of beliefs.

There are folk beliefs about the es of illnesses. Though some tribes believe certain maladies have a biological origin such as overeating, poor diet, excessive drinking, infections, and accidents, there are still other groups who believe that spirits and elementals can also be a cause for a number of illnesses. The belief in the supernatural is the primary reason why up to this day Filipinos have a surplus of albularyos or quack-doctors.

Traits, on the other hand, vary from one person to another and in a collective sense; it varies from one nation to another. Every country has its own set of traits. They are molded from influences from another person or from another culture. This holds true in our country, as the Americans, Spanish and other countries that made constant interactions with our fellowmen through the years have influenced us.

Because of this mix of influences, we came up with a set of traits and influences that we can call our own.

Beliefs in Conception and Childbirth

If a pregnant woman's abdomen is pointed, her baby will be a boy; if it is round, the baby will be a girl.

· Give an expectant mother anything she craves for, or she will have a miscarriage.

· If a pregnant woman wants to avoid the unpleasant symptoms of pregnancy, she should step over her husband while he is sleeping and all of her symptoms will be transferred to him.

· If a pregnant woman eats a fruit from a tree, all the remaining fruits will remain sour.

· A pregnant woman who eats "twin" bananas will give birth to twins. To prevent this, she must split the twin bananas behind her back.

· A pregnant woman shouldn't have her picture taken, or her child will die at birth.

· Visitors who do not enter the house but linger at the door instead will cause a pregnant woman a difficult delivery.

· When a woman is about to give birth, place a lighted candle under her bed so that any witches passing by may be seen.

· After the baby is delivered, the umbilical cord must be rubbed on the newborn's cheek to produce dimples.

· When a baby lies on her stomach for the first time, place a pencil, paper, and a book under her so that she will be intelligent.

Beliefs on Animals


· If a chicken walks in the rain, the rain will stop.

· If moths fly at night, it is a sign that it will rain.

· If frogs croak in summertime, it is a sign of the coming rain.

· A cat wiping its face is a sign that a visitor is coming.

· A hen clucking at dawn is a sign that an unmarried woman is pregnant.

· If dogs howl at night, it means that evil spirits are lurking around.

· When a house lizard makes a lot of noise, expect a letter or a visitor.

· If you see a spider at night, it is a sign of good luck; but if you see a spider during the day, it is a sign of bad luck.

· If a spider falls from his web and fails to climb back, it signifies sorrow for the family. But if it falls and climbs back again, it means happiness is at hand.

· If a gambler meets a lizard on the way to the cockpit, it is a sign of bad luck. But if he meets a snake, it is good luck.

· Don't speak ill of mice, or they will harm you. Call them good creatures.

· After buying a piglet, walk it around your house seven times for it not to go astray.

Beliefs on Bad Luck and Good Luck


· A black cat crossing your path is a bad omen. A black cat is a demon in disguise.

· Encountering a yellow butterfly will bring you good luck.

· If a brown butterfly enters your house, you will lose money.

· If chirping birds awaken you at dawn, luck awaits you.

· Dreaming of fish, trees, or snakes means good fortune, money, or happiness.

· Lying down with your feet facing the door will bring you an early death.

· Adorning your dress with pearls means you will shed many tears.

· Do not mend your clothes while wearing them, or harm will befall you.

· Stepping on a pillow brings misfortune.

· A person who is headed somewhere should not proceed with her journey if she trips on something after leaving the house. Otherwise, something terrible will happen to her.

· If you sit on your bag while traveling, you will not reach your destination.

· A person who breaks mirrors faces seven years of bad luck.

· At the stroke of midnight on New Year's Eve, eat twelve grapes, which represent the twelve months of the year. This will ensure money and good luck throughout the year.

· Whistling at night invites evil spirits.

· Wearing a diamond protects the bearer from evil-minded people.

Beliefs on Children


· If a baby often holds his feet, it means that he wants a younger brother or sister.

· Cutting a baby's eyelashes during her first month will make it grow long and beautiful.

· An infant must not be kissed when he is sleeping because he will turn naughty when he grows up.

· A baby who sucks on her toes means her mother will soon be pregnant again.

· Kissing a baby's feet will result to a baby talking back to her parents when she grows up.

· A breech baby will bring luck to the family. He or she will also have the power to remove fish spines stuck in another person's throat by merely touching that person's neck.

· When a baby is baptized, he should be carried by a person with plenty of coins in his hand or pocket. This brings good luck to the baby.

· A child that cries during his baptism is a sign of prosperity. The harder the child cries, the richer he will be.

· When a child is ready to walk, put him on the stairs. Have him step on a plate or anywhere else so long as his feet do not touch the ground first. This is to ensure that he will always find his way home wherever he may roam.

· If a child's milk tooth falls out, throw it up on the roof of the house so that the rats will find it. When the new tooth grows in, it will be as strong and as powerful as a rat's tooth.

· Children should not be allowed to play late in the afternoon when the horizon is yellow-orange in color, because evil spirits roam around that time.

· Stepping over a child while he is asleep will slow down his growth.

Beliefs on Food and Eating


· If a spoon falls during meal, a woman will visit you. If it is fork, a man will, while if it is teaspoon, it will be a child.

· A woman who switches seats many times during a meal will have many suitors.

· If you change your permanent place at the family table, the person you will marry will have a short life.

· If you eat too much onion, you will become a playboy or playgirl.

· Eating ripe papayas everyday controls your sexual urges.

· If you choke briefly at mealtime, someone far away remembers you, or is talking about you. To find out who that person could be, immediately ask for any number from the people who are eating with you. The number that will match a letter in the alphabet will be the first letter of the person's name that knows you and who might have remembered you.

· If you have to leave the table before finishing your meal to go on a trip, turn around the plates on the table for your trip to be safe.

· Do not put money on the dining table while eating.

· The number of persons sitting down in a meal should not add up to 13.

· When cooking, leave a few grains of rice in the sack and then tie it tightly. This way, your guests will not consume all the food at once.

· If you leave some rice in the pot there will always be something to eat in the house.

· If a fish bone gets stuck in your throat, don't tell a soul; turn your plate around three times and the bone will disappear.

· It is good to use plates when serving food to your guests. The grace of your guests will remain on the plates and be a blessing to your family.

· When a stranger or distant relative arrives in your home, serve him water first so that he only brings you good news.

· When dining in the home of strangers, always eat food from the center of the plate.

· Do not stack dirty dishes one on top of the other or it may lead to adultery.

Beliefs on House, Home and Family


· If you are to build a house, always begin during a full moon.

· The best months to build a house is during the months of March, June, July, August, September, and November.

· Never build your house at the end of a cul-de-sac, or "dead end" road.

· When building a house, always remember to place certain things under each structural post. Old coins and religious medals will drive away evil spirits and ensure prosperity. Musical score sheets, medals, or coins ensure harmony as well.

· The number of steps on a staircase should not be in multiples of three. Count off the steps as oro (gold), plata (silver), and mata (death). The last step must not fall on mata.

· Always move into a new house on a Wednesday or Saturday.

· If you move to a new home a day before the new moon, you will never go hungry.

· The first things one should carry into a new home on the day they will transfer are rice and salt.

· When moving into a new home, scatter coins in the living room so prosperity will reign.

· The number of people sleeping in a new house the first night should be the same for nine consecutive days. Otherwise, death will occur in that house.

· Bees found inside the house will bring fortune and good luck to its occupants.

· When doves and pigeons leave a house, it is a sign that there is no harmony there, because its owners quarrel all the time.

· If you want to rid your house of bedbugs (fleas), place some on a piece of paper then leave them in someone else's house. The bedbugs will move to that house.

· If you wish to rid your home of unwanted visitors, secretly sprinkle salt around the house and they will soon depart.

· A guest should not leave the house while the family is eating because opening the doors will let out all the family's good fortune.

· All windows in d house should be opened on New Year's Day to let God's grace to come in.

Beliefs on Illness and Death


· Going to bed with wet hair leads to blindness and insanity.

· A wound inflicted on Good Friday will take a long time to heal.

· It is a good idea to change the name of a sickly child. That way you may be able to fool the spirits who are causing the sickness.

· Before you bathe in a spring or river, you must first ask permission form the engkantos (spirits who have the power to enchant people) who dwell there. Otherwise, you might fall ill.

· Before passing over a small hill, you must first ask permission from the engkantos so you will not get sick.

· A lingering black butterfly is a sign that one of your relatives just died.

· A falling spider that lands on you is an omen that someone close to you will die.

· Do not form groups of three or thirteen, or one of you will die.

· If you dream that one of your teeth is being pulled out, this means that a family member will die.

· Sometimes the soul temporarily leaves the body while in a deep sleep. Rousing a person at this time might kill him.

· When a tree that was planted at the same time a child was born dies, the child will also die.

· It is said that the soul of the deceased returns on the third, the fifth, and the seventh day after death.

· The coffin should be built to fit the exact measurement of the corpse. Otherwise, a family member of the deceased will soon die.

· Careful not to let your tears fall on the dead or on the coffin. If it does, the dead person will have a difficult journey to the next world.

· If someone sneezes at a wake, pinch him lest he will join the dead.

· During a wake, never see your visitors off at the door of the chapel or funeral parlor.

· A widow who caresses her dead husband's face will surely marry again.

· Do not sweep the house until after the burial.

· Always carry the coffin out of the house, church, or funeral parlor headfirst. This prevents the soul of the dead from coming back.

· During the funeral march, a man whose wife is pregnant should not carry the casket. Before going home, he should light up a cigarette from a fire at the cemetery gate in order to shake off the spirits of the dead.

· Digging a hole larger than the coffin will cause an immediate relative to join the deceased in the grave.

· After the coffin has been lowered to the grave, all family members should take a handful of soil, spit on it, and throw it in the grave. Doing so will not only bury any evil left behind by the deceased, but also lessen the burden of grief on the family as well.

· After the funeral service, do not go home directly so that the spirit of the dead person will not follow you to your house.

· Never let a child step over an open grave lest the spirit of the dead will visit that child.

· Give away your black dresses after one year of mourning to prevent another death in the family.

Beliefs on Love, Courtship, and Marriage


· If you want to know what your lifetime partner will look like, wake up in the middle of the night and take a look at yourself in the mirror while holding a lighted candle. At first, the image in the mirror will appear to be a skeleton, but after five minutes, you will see a full view of the person you will marry.

· You can give your sweetheart a handkerchief as a gift, but it will only make her cry.

· Engaged couples should not exchange pointed or sharp objects as gifts, or this would lead to a broken engagement.

· When a star appears near a half-moon, it is a sign that young couples are eloping.

· The bride should not put on her wedding dress before the wedding. If she does, the wedding will not push through.

· The groom should arrive at the church before the bride in order to avoid bad luck.

· Dropping the wedding ring, or the couple's veil, or arras during the wedding ceremony means that the couple will not be happy in their marriage.

· The groom who sits down ahead of his bride during their wedding ceremony will be a henpecked husband.

· During the wedding ceremony a bride must step on her husband's foot so both of them will agree on things that they will under take, and so that her husband will not be cruel to her.

· Whoever of the couple stands first after the ceremony, will die ahead of the other.

· A bride who cries during the wedding will bring bad luck to the marriage.

· It is bad omen for the newly wed couple if their parents cry during the wedding.

· If it rains during the wedding, the couple will have many crybabies.

· Throwing rice at the newly wed couple will bring them prosperity in life.

· Breaking something during the wedding reception brings good luck to the newly wed couple.

· Upon entering their new home, the couple should go up the stairs alongside each other so that neither one will dominate the other.

· It is bad luck for two siblings to be married within the same year. To resolve the situation, the sibling who marries later in the year should pass through the backstairs of the church on the day of the wedding.

· A person who habitually sits at the head of the table during meals will never marry.

· Women, who have moles right under the eyes where the tears fall, will be widowed.

· Removing plates from the table while an unmarried woman is still eating will keep her single all her life.

· An unwed girl who follows the footprints of a newly wed couple will marry soon.

· If a woman is widowed during a new moon, she will marry again.

· A married woman who wears a pearl ring will cause her husband to commit adultery.

· If the husband leaves the house soon after a quarrel, the wife should get his shirt, hang it over the stove, and whip it several times. The husband is certain to come back.

Beliefs on Money and Fortune


· A person who breaks an egg and finds two yolks inside will be rich.

· A white butterfly is a sign of impending wealth.

· A small anthill under the house is a sign of good fortune.

· A house frequented by black ants means that its owner would be rich.

· Do not put your purse or handbag down on the floor, or you will not prosper.

· Never sweep the floor at night, or you will lose all your wealth.

· Whoever pays his debts at night will become poor.

· As soon as you see a shooting star, wrap some money in a corner of your handkerchief and play any game of chance, for you are surely going to win.

· If your palm itches, it means you will receive a lot of money.

· After you dress up and you immediately discover that you wore your dress inside out, it means that you are going to receive money shortly.

· Always keep a coin or money bills inside your bag or suitcase. If you don't spend it, it means you will have money for the whole year.

· If you find a coin on the road, put it in your purse or pocket. If you never use it, you will never be short of money.
· Give a generous discount to the first customer so your sales for the day will increase.

Beliefs on Numbers and Colors


· When three people pose for a photo, the one in the middle will be the first to die.

· A person with two cowlicks is said to be mischievous.

· Tragic events happen in threes.

· A single rumble of thunder announces the death of a prominent person.

· Giving birth consecutively to three children of the same sex will bring luck to the parents.

· Gamblers who encounter the number 7 will lose.

· Breaking a mirror on a Friday will bring seven years of bad luck.

· The numbers 3, 5, and 9 are unlucky.

· Thirteen is both a lucky and an unlucky number.

· Do not choose the number 22 for a wedding day. Since the number is in the "kneeling" position, it will not give the couple prosperity.

· If the number of letters comprising the names of both husband and wife add up to 30 or more, it means good luck.

· A person who dreams of numbers will win the lottery.

· A red car is prone to accidents.

· A person with dark gums is said to be the jealous type.

· A person's favorite color reveals some facets of her personality -- yellow for being jealous, red for being energetic, white for being peaceful, green for being optimistic, and blue for being lonely.

· If you dream of your friends wearing white dress, it means they will get married.

· If you wear black clothes even though you are not in mourning, one of your relatives will die.

Beliefs on Signs and Premonitions


· A person with a mole on his foot is a born adventurer.

· A person with a mole on his face will be successful in business.

· A person with a mole in the middle of her nose will be rich but unhappy.

· A person with a mole close to his eye is attractive to the opposite sex.

· A mole on the hand signifies wealth or thievery.

· A mole on one's back is a sign of laziness.

· A person with big ears will have a long life.

· Women with wide hips will bear many children.

· People with naturally curly hair are moody or ill tempered.

· People with eyebrows that almost meet easily get jealous.

· Men with hairy chests are playboys.

· A person with lines running from the palm of his hand to his fingers is successful in business.

· People whose teeth are spaced far apart are liars.

· If a person bites his tongue, it means someone is thinking of him or talking about him.

· If a person forgets what he wants to say, it means that the devil snatched his words.

· A woman who combs her hair with her back facing the door is a sign of infidelity.

· If all the matches should fall out of a matchbox, you will have an unexpected visitor.

· A month that starts on a Friday will be full of accidents.

· A person who always uses a bandage on Fridays is a witch.

· The appearance of a comet is an omen of war, famine, or illness.

· When a sleeping adult laughs, it means that a relative will die. On the other hand, if a child laughs while sleeping, it means that angels are playing with him.

Other Beliefs


· To avoid recurring dreams, turn your pillow upside down.

· Always sleep facing east, or you will not face a bright future.

· If a person sleeps on her book, she will have a good memory.

· After studying at night, place the book you've been studying under your pillow, and you will retain what you have read.

· Cry at night and you will be happy tomorrow.

· Don't comb your hair at night, lest you become bald, orphaned, or widowed. But if you must comb at night, bite the tip of the comb first.

· When walking with friends, especially at night, always travel as a group of even number. If it is an odd number, one of you will be taken away by the spirits to make the number even.

· Washed clothes should be taken from the clothesline at night, lest they will be stolen and worn by dwarfs.

· Whatever you do or feel on New Year's Day will continue for the rest of the year.

· Better to find money on New Year's Day than spend it.

· Jumping on Easter morning hastens growth and makes a person taller.

· When the bells ring on Easter Sunday, shout at the top of your lungs and you will have a long life.

· Don't gamble if you've just had a haircut, for you are certain to lose.

· Never give a pair of shoes away for free. Either throw the shoes up in the air and let the prospective owner pick them up, or let him or her buy it for five centavos.

· Don't seat on books, or you will be dumb.

· Before throwing hot water on the ground, give a warning to the elves. When harmed, they might retaliate by making you sick.

· Before stepping on an anthill, first ask to be excused. Otherwise, a spirit might play tricks on you.

· Carry a piece of ginger on your body when you visit a place not frequently visited by others, so that the evil spirits in that place will not harm you.

· If you walk in the forest, rub your feet with garlic to prevent animals from harming you.

· Do not harm or cut down a balete tree, because it is a dwelling place of fairies and enchanted spirits.

· Don't whistle or sing in the forest, lest the enchanted spirits imitate you and cause you to fall ill.

· If someone sneezes while you are about to leave your house, postpone your trip or something bad will happen to you.

· To overcome stage fright when speaking in public, tuck one-centavo coin inside the shoes you are wearing.

· Don't cut your nails at night, or on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, or Fridays. (Days that have R in their spelling when translated in Tagalog i.e. Martes, Miyerkules, Biyernes)

· If you happen to get lost, invert your clothes and you will find your way.

· To prevent rain, take ashes from the kitchen and spread them over your yard.

· Don't go out on Holy Thursday and Good Friday, for evil fairies are roaming around to hurt people.

Thanks to Philippine Cultural Heritage Foundation

Post away and Discuss! :cheers:

Bump! :colgate:

not cry.. but fight!!!

its not just worth crying for, its ALSO WORTH DYING AND KILLING FOR.
"aming ligaya na 'pag may MANGAAPI, ang pumatay ng dahil sa'yo!"

I still have hope for the Philippines.
For me, it is worth crying for.

We might not be seeing clearly the way ahead of us, but we must keep the faith and keep on walking towards progress.

If only we could realize that we are only entitled to 1 minute of murmuring and grumbling and complaining about the government for every 10 hours of crying out to God in prayer for our nation, we would even give up that 1 minute of frivolity in the search for serious change.

If this was the equation, then I am not yet entitled to my 1 minute of grumbling for this month of November.

There's nothing wrong with seeing what is wrong in government. What is wrong is when this becomes the trend, so that the mentality of hopelessness, instead of action, is fostered among us and passed on from generation to generation.

Our heroes in the past were also faced with seemingly hopeless situations, but instead of giving up, they took up the challenge and gave up their lives so that future generations of Filipinos will be able to see this day. I think the least we can do is to be worthy of them and continue their struggle to build a nation.

If we feel saddened by our diaspora, let us remember that ours is not the only nation built on the backs of overseas workers. Let us not lose hope, always pray for our country and keep not only a watchful eye over the government, but also a willing hand to help in its efforts to correct itself.

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not cry.. but fight!!!

perhaps we should change the name of the thread to "Is the Philippines worth fighting for? or worth dying for ?

Why cry ? the Revolutionaries of 1896, the soldiers and guerillas of World II, the rebels of both the left and the right movements, and the moro groups, the students during the martial law and up today fought for their principles and beliefs and they don't cry... they fought for what they think is right and
just for the benefits of all Filipinos of today and the next generations.

If there were no rebels to fights injustice and corruptions how can those elite and traditional politicians knows that their selfishness is bringing the country to chaos and destructions. how can they know that many peoples were suffering from starvation if not dying of hunger, how can the government knows that many peoples is fed up of bad government and corruptions, not only of GMA govt but the govts of all previous Administrations.

Even Ninoy Aguino said that the Philippines is worth dying for, and many heroes including the soldiers of the Republic and the rebels of the right, left, and Moro groups fought as they knew that the Philippines is worth fighting and dying for, and not crying for....

walang ipinapanganak na pilipino, ipinaglalaban ang pagkapilipino.

I'm proud to be Pinoy, so yes its worth everything!

Nose clamps and skin whiteners

The Internet is buzzing with the latest beauty gadget—a nose clamp called Coco to achieve the “Cleopatra nose,” whatever that means. As far as I know, Cleopatra did not have a straight nose. The Coco nose clamp does not look very different from your sipit ng sampayan except that the clamps are padded. And the objective, naturally, is to “straighten” the nose.

When fellow Pinoy blogger Chris (http://filarms.blogspot.com) e-mailed a promotional photo of the nose clamp, my first reaction was to wonder if it was for real. I surfed the Web for information and what do you know? It is made in Korea. Someone actually ordered Coco online and posted photos of the entire thing in its original packaging complete with the illustrated instructions for use on the backside (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nihonbunka/33752132). He translates:

“1) Adjust the screws at the end so that it does not hurt your nose while clamping.

2) Once you have adjusted the size, quietly [sic, gently] clamp your nose with CoCo.

3) Do not use for long periods of time.

4) Please stop using this device immediately should anything happen to your skin etc.

5) Do not use while driving or sleeping.

6) Keep out of reach of children.”

Now, why would anyone buy such a contraption? Well, if we consider how much money cosmetic surgeons in the Philippines make these days on nose jobs alone, we would realize there is quite an obsession for acquiring those pert straight noses. If news reports are to be believed, nose jobs are a big thing in the entire world. In Asia, however, nose jobs have a decided slant. Most of the patients have the rather flat Asian nose and they want noses like those of the girls on the covers of Cosmopolitan and Vogue.

It isn’t just vanity. I mean, the innate drive to look attractive is a natural animal thing. It’s part of the mating process. Animals preen to attract potential mates. So, when a person cuts his hair in what he thinks is the style most flattering to him or when he chooses the clothes that enhances his coloring and body shape, it’s part of the attempt to become attractive and desirable. It’s all about sex, if you come right down to it. And sex is a natural human activity no matter what the Catholic Church says.

When a man spends hours every day in the gym to build those contoured muscles, who would be stupid enough to believe that it’s for health reasons? Exercise is for health; the desire to achieve a certain look by pumping weights is vanity. It’s part of the mentality that girls swoon over all those rippling muscles. The same thing when girls get boob jobs or go for liposuction. In fact, losing weight these days has very little to do with health; it is all about looking “sexy.”

Of course, the Catholic Church declares that vanity is one of the seven deadly sins. But I really think it’s part of human nature. Unless you put your health or even your life at risk at the expense of looking good, or if you kill or condone killing so you can drink a virgin’s blood or something to gain eternal youth, well... vanity is just a spice of life.

But when one starts tinkering with his natural physical attributes, especially those associated with his race, in order to conform with the standards embodied by his people’s colonizers or former colonizers, it isn’t just vanity. It’s something deeper. And darker. It is an inferiority complex. And the Coco nose clamp is just another tool that perpetrates this inferiority complex.

I don’t know whether to laugh or get upset. I don’t know why anyone should believe that obstructing breathing by pinching the nostrils can reshape the nose. A commenter in Asia-sirens.com, which also featured the Coco nose clamp, wrote: “I could sell a million of those in Thailand. This gadget is supposed to make the normal short little Asian nose taller, right? It won’t work, of course. But it would sell anyway.”

Right. And I think some enterprising asshat can sell a million of those nose clamps in the Philippines as well. The way cosmetic surgery patients are getting younger and younger these days, a much cheaper alternative will sound very attractive indeed. I guess it’s too much to presume that this old wives’ tale about pinching the nose to make it straight had gone obsolete with my grandmother’s generation.

My paternal grandmother was a beautiful woman. She had a lovely face, jet black curly hair that framed it, round soulful eyes and a patrician nose that I, her only granddaughter, did not inherit. I took after my grandfather’s side of the family—skin fairer than the average Filipino, straight dark brown hair, chinky eyes and a very Asian nose. When I was a little girl, shopkeepers would converse with me in Chinese. And I would be asked occasionally all throughout my life if I have Chinese blood.

Apparently, my grandmother wished that I had at least inherited her straight nose. She taught me to pinch my nostrils several times during the day to achieve that perfectly straight nose. She said she used to that when she was young and she even utilized a sipit ng sampayan. And that was why she had such a straight nose. Crap, really, because all her brothers and sisters had the same nose. It was a genetic thing and the use of a sipit had nothing to do with it.

Anyway, I was more interested in playing ball than in straightening my nose. Lucky me that I didn’t heed her instructions. When I grew older and less impressionable, I was able to tell her, gee, you can’t reshape the bone of a grown-up unless you break it, grandma. Of course, I was to find out as I grew up some more that I was only partly correct—the nose can be reshaped through surgery.

My grandmother was born and raised at a time when Filipinos were considered second-class citizens by their successive colonizers and I don’t think it was surprising for that generation to believe that their colonizers represented a universal standard for beauty. Part of the colonizing process, after all, is to inculcate in the minds of the colonized people that their inferiority is precisely the reason they need to accept the inevitability of colonization. Of course, to soften the insult a bit, colonizers also tell the colonized that it is for the latter’s best interests.

The question is, decades after colonization has ended, why do so many Filipinos still believe that they are inferior? We only need to consider the booming nose job business and the proliferation of skin whitening soaps in the market to realize this. And I’m not just talking about girls—boys and men are very much into it, too.

Do we really think we’re ugly if we don’t have straight noses and fair skin? I don’t know about you but I think I’m darned pretty.

WESTERN IS BEST mentality! what a shame!

I do dig morena chicks with SMALL (not flattened) noses!

Sad fact that Pinays want to be white while the Caucasians are taking every step of their way (even risking their lives due to skin cancer) just to have the skin that Pinays have....brown or tan.

Ironic...

^ Conclusion is: Majority want what they do not have

^^reminds me of the saying,"Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have." teka, dapat sa quotations thread ito hehe..:D

negro ako hehe

tigs try mo to: pero yong green papaya mas ok.
http://www.heavenlybath.com.ph/

IMSCF Syndrome is a non-academic term that relates to a widely observed but scarcely formally documented phenomenon of identity crisis first observed amongst some overseas Filipino with no Spanish or Chinese ancestry; but also prevalent in their ancestral homeland of the Philippine, resulting in a unique form of institutionalized ethnic or ancestral forgery [citation needed]. It is most common among some unmixed Filipinos of Austronesian Malay origin, residing in Western countries; such as Filipino-Americans in the United States, as well as Filipinos in Canada, the United Kingdom, Australia, and Europe.

The IMSCF Syndrome specifically refers to the tendency of Austronesian Filipinos with no Spanish or Chinese ancestry, when questioned about their ancestry and national origin, to recite the phrase ?I'm Spanish, Chinese, Filipino.? The name of the syndrome itself is an acronym formed from the first letters of this recited phrase.

The symptoms of those ?afflicted? by the condition are said to be detected when a Filipino of no Spanish and/or Chinese ancestry, claim to be a mixture of these ancestries; usually in the precise descending order of Spanish first, Chinese second and Filipino third.


Origins

The syndrome is said to stem from the view of unmixed Filipinos with no Spanish or Chinese ancestry, to elevate their perceived pedigree to conform to the standards and ideals of their adoptive countries. The origins of the syndrome, however, can be traced further back in history to the colonial mentality of the indigenous peoples of the Philippines.

The topic of ancestry among Filipinos is often a controversial subject. Influenced by factors stemming from colonial mentality, the trend in the Philippines has always been to place emphasis on any foreign blood, especially European (Spanish or white American) and to exalt it, and when in the overwhelming majority of cases none was there, to invent it.

Some modern day Filipino families of non-European ancestry have a tradition of handing down oral accounts of Mestizo ancestry, including having Spanish forebearers with no evidences of ancestral Spanish descent in their genes; other than having a Spanish surname. The majority of Filipinos with Spanish or Spanish-spelled names and surnames acquired them as a result of the Cat?logo alfab?tico de apellidos (?Alphabetical Catalog of Surnames?) decreed in 1849 which was imposed on all Filipinos by the Spanish royal courts. Only a tiny minority of Filipinos can thus claim possession of their Spanish name and surname from beyond that year.[1]

The continuing prevalence of the syndrome is attributed to the negative mentalities of some peoples of the Philippines and to the lack, or invisibility, of native Filipino role models in the United States or abroad for expatriate Filipino communities.

Views

Because of IMSCF Syndrome, there is a not too uncommon view held of Filipinos as lacking pride in their of their ancestral origins.[2][3]. They may sometimes be seen as being all to readily anxious in classifying themselves as anything other than Filipino, or at the very least not as a pure Filipino. Some non-hispanic Filipinos are further said to attempt to falsely identify themselves as either Hispanics or Pacific Islanders as their ethnicity to avoid aligning themselves with identifying as Asian peoples. This is most commonly practiced amongst many Filipino-Americans living in the United States and Hawai'i. Hawai'i's Filipino populations with no Spanish ancestry have attempted the literal erasure of their ethnic Filipino element from their ancestral genetic background, replacing it with native Hawaiian.

Who actually is ?Spanish, and Filipino??

According to recent Philippine government sources, and past and present census data, there are 17,000 Spanish people living in the Philippines and the combined number of all types of mestizos constitute no more than 3% of the entire Filipino population. Of that 3%, half are of Spanish origin. Spanish mestizos are estimated to be around 2% of the entire Philippine population, while Chinese and Chinese mestizo combined are estimated at around 3%, with the majority of the population (95%) being ethnic Filipinos of Austronesian origin.

A recent genetic study by Stanford University indicates that only 3.6% of the Philippine population actually possesses European ancestry[4], among these, the average amount of European ancestry was not specified.

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMSCF_Syndrome

I am a Jew and IMGJSCP

Uhh, whats the "G" part?

Uhh, whats the "G" part?

actually GJ for german jew

Pilipino, dugong kayumanggi. dugong bayani.

What's that again? I never heard anyone here say: I am Spanish Chinese Filipino among Filipino Americans.

I've heard some say, I'm Fil-Chi to distinguish them from Chinese coming from Taiwan or the mainland.

i think it's typically an either-or. The syndrome just tries to tell that the Filipinos aren't satisfied with being just Filipinos.
IMCF is more common tho IMO and they really rep it to the death! hehe

I AM FILIPINO


Damn y'all, it don't get anymore simple than that. In fact, i think that people who say "im filipino-chinese" only want to emphasize chinese because it creates an illusion of being more superior. Im just stating this because this is what i've observed, especially with some of my cousins. Admit it fellow pinoys, this is cultural tendancy that occurs all the time. Being a filipino plus something else is somehow supposed to separate you from the masses.

^^ No. What I am referring to is that here in the States, in the circles I've been or the conversations I've overheard, the American Fil-Chis emphasize the Filipino part of their origin because it is perceived that those from the Philippines are highly educated and affluent than Chinese that came from the mainland.

So, even the Americans stress "I have a Chinoy friend", like some claim to social status.

well lili, its the complete opposite here, which really bothers me.

It's more common for me to hear.. I'm an Ilocano or Pampangueno or Cebuano rather than Spanish or Chinese Filipino.

the whole time i've lived in chicago i've never felt that way until i got here, too much colonial mentality here in pinas i guess

im ilocano, hahahaha

and by the way boy, its kamfangfangan, helurzzzzzz

Oh duh.. hehe... :lol: kapampangan nga.

In fact, i think that people who say "im filipino-chinese" only want to emphasize chinese because it creates an illusion of being more superior. ... Being a filipino plus something else is somehow supposed to separate you from the masses.

the whole time i've lived in chicago i've never felt that way until i got here, too much colonial mentality here in pinas i guess

i dare you to say that in the Chinese Schools Thread in the Main Forum. :lol:

^^ Kanta na lang tayo ng "Pinoy Ako, Pinoy". :dance2:

you dare me huh, cge tignan ko reaction nila

joke, i don't want to incite drama over the truth

anyway, this may not have anything to do with the topic, but ever since i came to America, i've had to deal with this dilemma: whether Filipinos are Asians or Pacific Islanders. :lol: so where do we really fall under? some pinoys i met would claim they're Pac islanders while many would say they're without a doubt Asian. I never really thought we could be any other race/ethnicity but Asian until i see for myself how filipino appearance seems closer to polynesian in the global village. So if you check my myspace now, i rep P.I. (just so people would not give me that "you're not asian" stare. haha) But im comfy too being Asian.. Actually most of the time i just say im Filipino but since there's only those 2 to choose from in them ethnicity questionnaires. hehe, i just say P.I. what do you guys think?

Juan we are considered pacific islanders under those categories. Did you know that south asians fall under the "Other" category. hehehehehe, that sucks for them.

In addition to my previous post, i would never survive in a chinese school. Despite my being 1/4 chinese i am still mathematically challenged.

How about an Asian Pacific Islander? We're Asians that happens to inhabit islands in the Western Pacific. :colgate:

In fact, i think that people who say "im filipino-chinese" only want to emphasize chinese because it creates an illusion of being more superior. Im just stating this because this is what i've observed, especially with some of my cousins. Admit it fellow pinoys, this is cultural tendancy that occurs all the time. Being a filipino plus something else is somehow supposed to separate you from the masses.I don't doubt that there are some chinoys or filipino-chinese who feel superior (whether or not they even claim to be filipinos) to other pinoys. I should know... I went to a chinese school and felt myself superior to our non-chinese maids, drivers, workers, neighbors, etc. That was how we were brought up, and I can't make any excuse for it. That doesn't mean, however, that some of us haven't grown up, and haven't come to view things differently. On the other hand, racial discrimination in the Philippines is not a one-way street. 'Intsiks' are made fun of all the time, so are visayans, ilocanos, pampangos, etc. So 'feeling superior' is not a monopoly of chinoys. Furthermore, I don't see any problem in affirming one's heritage. Yes, I am Filipino, but I am also of Chinese origin and proud of it. Does it make me better than everyone else? Certainly not.

But I do agree with you that some pinoys feel the need to distinguish themselves, or put others down to make themselves feel better.

thank you for your confirmation quietlife because people i've had a somewhat similar experience.

i just learned from my dad that our chinese forefathers in LaUnion changed their last name from Fe to Cases after baptismal. So i guess this was their way of trying to fit in, be more Filipino i guess.

I used to bring VMV Illuminants skin whitening products to the States... I was obsessed with their products. But I now use Le Prairie, a brand with a skin whitening line from Switzerland.

One thing I noticed in The Philippines especially in Manila is the popularity and usage of skin whitening products. They may be Block & White, Ponds or Extraderm but I noticed that alot of Filipinas in The Philippines would like to have fair skin. It's a big contrast compared to alot of Filipina-Americans who would prefer "chocolate brown" skin :D

What do you think?

I don't think this is just a Filipina thing. I think it's an Asia-wide trend. So-called skin whiteners are also very lucrative in Africa. Many of these products contain dangerous chemicals - just look at Michael Jackson.

^^ hello, that is so like a guy thing to say :lol: ...

anyways, some of us use products with the highest possible spf not because we want to turn white (like the jacko :lol: ) BUT because we want to protect our skin from sun/uv damage... to maintain an even tone and hopefully less freckles...

I don't think I'd want to get white. I'd look Korean or Japanese. Not that there is anything bad with that but I just want to look Pinoy. Hehe! Besides, white people compliment me for my tan all the time. I love their reaction when I say that it's natural. :)

blakkidy black is beautiful...im a nubian prince

^^ we know your highness

I just got the tan I wanted after my beachscapade! Pero I wanna be white again :D

being white is being gay, dont u know that sinjin. now, u know what it means, make yourself to be more darker than ever.

hehehe. gusto mong maging nognog si sinjin.

I prefer men to be darker than me. Or, I don't want him to be fairer than me.

But then, that is just a preference. My ex was actually fairer than me. So, it means that I go beyond skin color.

being white is being gay, dont u know that sinjin. now, u know what it means, make yourself to be more darker than ever.

Bleh, who says so, you? Who made you god? :lol:

i want white skin. really white. albino white.
while im at it i can use a nosejob, chin implants and liposuction.
maybe plasticsurgeon can get me a discount

just kidding

anyway, do any of those skin whiteners work anyway?

anyway, do any of those skin whiteners work anyway?

Yes, if you use them regularly. Some say they're ineffective. That's because they're impatient to wait for the results :okay:

^^ So, hindi pala totoo yung fair skin mo Sinjin?

I like the skin color of Chot, Tigs, Juan and Ashley. Soft light tan and even. I think it's called tawny. Chot sometimes turns pinkish. That is odd for someone with brown skin but he does.

I also like Matt's skin color when it gets pinkish. Sa complexion, may "glow" yung skin ni Boybaha. hahah...

^^ So, hindi pala totoo yung fair skin mo Sinjin?

Totoo siya pero gusto ko pang maging mas maputi kasi gusto ng girls yung maputi. And I'm also working on my eyes, para maging chinky, paano kaya yun? :lol:

^^ Haha! Sinjin. Gusto mo yatang maging Chinese.

Who says girls like maputi?

I just noticed that on days when I am fairer, my lips are redder. However, when I allow myself to tan (I like it coz I achieve a honey gold skin color. naks!), the downside is that my lips become brownish pale.

So, parang mas bagay sa akin kung maputi ako kasi very dark yung hair ko. Striking yung coloring. Hehe.

I do like being kayumangging kaligatan if it only suits me better.

^ Sabi ko kasi most girls here, may kasamang maputing guys :)

EDIT: Dapat lang naman maging Chinese-looking ako para naman bagay yung name na Sinjin diba? :lol:

^^ Oh yeah, that is a Korean name, right?

Yes :)

morena, chinita, mestiza... no good reason to discriminate really. s'all good.

i did try Block & White once (way back when i was much younger, insecure and didn't know any better)... i developed rashes. doh!

never have tried. never will. hehe!
dont you know that brown is this century's white. :lol:
whatever. funny. im tawny?

Here in mainland China their skin tone ranges from almost Caucasian in the north, northeast and Xinjiang to morena just like us in the south (Fijian, Guangdong, Hainan etc.)

Their standard of feminine beauty has always been towards the fairer side ever since time immemorial. It has nothing to do with Western influence. Remember that 1) light skin means you don't work out in the sun, and 2) the south was once barbarian lands, Sinicized much later than the north.

Thus skin-whitening is rather popular here too. But only among women. Traditionally the Chinese prefer their men a bit "dark". Men who are too fair-skinned are perceived as..... having a degree of gayness and not as macho. :lol:

However this standard is being eroded nowadays with the popularity of Japanese and Korean shows with their pa-cute male leads... :ohno:

^^ I like the skin color of Tony Leung of "In the Mood for Love" and "Chungking Express".

Also, John Lone of "The Last Emperor", so with Ken Watanabe. The lead in F4 Sang Cai was also not too fair. They exude masculinity.

Also, the male lead in My Sassy Girl has light brown skin.

That guy Takeshi Kaneshiro (also in Chungking Express) is also so handsome though he is on the fair side.

^^ I like the skin color of Tony Leung of "In the Mood for Love" and "Chungking Express".

Also, John Lone of "The Last Emperor", so with Ken Watanabe. The lead in F4 Sang Cai was also not too fair. They exude masculinity.

Also, the male lead in My Sassy Girl has light brown skin.

That guy Takeshi Kaneshiro (also in Chungking Express) is also so handsome though he is on the fair side.


oopsie! sang cai is the lead girl character in meteor garden... the lead in F4 is Jerry yan in real life :)

^^ Jerry Yan pala. Hindi kasi ako nakapanood non. Naririnig ko lang saka pino-post dito yung pictures noon. :D

Here in mainland China their skin tone ranges from almost Caucasian in the north, northeast and Xinjiang to morena just like us in the south (Fijian, Guangdong, Hainan etc.)

Their standard of feminine beauty has always been towards the fairer side ever since time immemorial. It has nothing to do with Western influence. Remember that 1) light skin means you don't work out in the sun, and 2) the south was once barbarian lands, Sinicized much later than the north.

Thus skin-whitening is rather popular here too. But only among women. Traditionally the Chinese prefer their men a bit "dark". Men who are too fair-skinned are perceived as..... having a degree of gayness and not as macho. :lol:

However this standard is being eroded nowadays with the popularity of Japanese and Korean shows with their pa-cute male leads... :ohno:

nandyan ka pala sa mainland china, nagdadala ka rin ba ng balikbayan box pag umuuwi ka sa pnas or vice versa

Nope. I'm a rebel to the typical OFW in that tamad ako magbitbit. Konti lang parati bagahe ko. Isang maleta, isang backpack, that's it. The bulky stuff pina-courier ko na beforehand. As for pasalubong we go to Duty Free to buy AFTER I've arrived. What's the point of bringing toys and stuff from China when everything is already available in Philippines anyway? Only attractive thing to bring is those dried herbs for soup...

oopsie! sang cai is the lead girl character in meteor garden... the lead in F4 is Jerry yan in real life :)

Si San Cai mukhang tuko. Tawag ko nga sa kanya si Tangkay. :lol:

^^ So, hindi pala totoo yung fair skin mo Sinjin?

I like the skin color of Chot, Tigs, Juan and Ashley. Soft light tan and even. I think it's called tawny. Chot sometimes turns pinkish. That is odd for someone with brown skin but he does.

I also like Matt's skin color when it gets pinkish. Sa complexion, may "glow" yung skin ni Boybaha. hahah...

i think i turn purple more than pink. :lol:

Nope. I'm a rebel to the typical OFW in that tamad ako magbitbit. Konti lang parati bagahe ko. Isang maleta, isang backpack, that's it. The bulky stuff pina-courier ko na beforehand. As for pasalubong we go to Duty Free to buy AFTER I've arrived. What's the point of bringing toys and stuff from China when everything is already available in Philippines anyway? Only attractive thing to bring is those dried herbs for soup...

Yeah, me too. I only bring personal stuff with me when I go visit the Philippines...but I sometimes bring home high-tech goodies for my friends and relatives.

To people who try hard to keep their skin fair: Which brand of sunblock do you prefer? At what SPF? Personally I use VMV Hypoallergenic sunblock with SPF 60...

basta gamit ko Heavenly Bath Green Papaya. try nyo di kayo magsisisi

^^ What is the difference between the effect of Green Papaya and Ripe Papaya?

^^ walang epek ang hinog na papaya. mas masarap sya sa fruit salad. ang green papaya, napansin ko kahit wala akong tulog di tumubo pimples ko at parang kuminis ang balat ko. i dunno, or baka sa epekto lang ng gulay & prutas na madalas kong kinakain.

^^ well, AFAIK, there is more Papain in green papaya... the enzyme that causes whitening

more Papain is found in Papaya Latex, and papaya latex is more "actively" produced in green papaya fruit....

^^ walang epek ang hinog na papaya. mas masarap sya sa fruit salad. ang green papaya, napansin ko kahit wala akong tulog di tumubo pimples ko at parang kuminis ang balat ko. i dunno, or baka sa epekto lang ng gulay & prutas na madalas kong kinakain.

Bwahahahhahaha! :rofl:

Oops...I know this is spam but I couldn't help it. Napatawa ako ng malakas. Parang punchline e. Sorry mods! :D

Nope. I'm a rebel to the typical OFW in that tamad ako magbitbit. Konti lang parati bagahe ko. Isang maleta, isang backpack, that's it. The bulky stuff pina-courier ko na beforehand. As for pasalubong we go to Duty Free to buy AFTER I've arrived. What's the point of bringing toys and stuff from China when everything is already available in Philippines anyway? Only attractive thing to bring is those dried herbs for soup...

hindi ka nagdadala ng madaming suave o white rain na shampoo at sabong irish spring sa mga kamaganak mo, thats mandatory dito pag umuuwi ng pnas

white rain tigs? ambaho nyan hehehe
syangapala, meron pa bang Suave sa pinas, yung panlagay sa buhok?

meron na rin flavor yung mga white rain parang suave shampoo. ye meron pa rin sa pnas nakita ko sa sm

To people who try hard to keep their skin fair: Which brand of sunblock do you prefer? At what SPF? Personally I use VMV Hypoallergenic sunblock with SPF 60...


on a daily basis, i use a Clarins moisturizing lotion with SPF30... whenever i hit the beach though i use VMV SPF60 :)

Si San Cai mukhang tuko. Tawag ko nga sa kanya si Tangkay. :lol:


she's too thin nga pero mas kind naman ako coz i think she's as thinas butiki :colgate:

Uhh, whats the "G" part?

This is in continuation of my post regarding my parents having some foreign ancestry. In my maternal side our Pinoy, Spanish and Chinese mixture can be seen by our looks and various documents in the Church as the YYYYYY clan is quite known.

However my faternal side is the one we are still trying to research so that we can construct our family tree. According to my father, his father is from Carmen Cebu and his Grandfather is a German mercenary in the Spanish Army or Guardia Civil whatever, and he married and settled in Davao.

Bump! :colgate:

Yung pagka Social climber ng iba.. this is especially true for the women. I mean, they'll borrow money just for their gimmicks and the will prioritize their gadgets before their school needs or even basic commodities... hayz...gusto laging nasa uso

^^ That's what you call "keeping up with the Joneses." :colgate: Always trying to out-do each other to the point that it's getting to be ridiculous.

you know its really wrong to say crab mentality ... i mean sorry for the crabs :colgate: you know crabs pull their fellow crabs up not down ..... the shear weight that pulls them down.

Yung pagka Social climber ng iba.. this is especially true for the women. I mean, they'll borrow money just for their gimmicks and the will prioritize their gadgets before their school needs or even basic commodities... hayz...gusto laging nasa uso

What do you mean especially true of women? You have been associating with the wrong women and the wrong crowd.

^ Women are prone to please their fellow women and guys just to look "in". Maybe it's just me. I was "confined" in an all-girls school when I was in HS. But I still see this in college. Most of those who always have new phones but have no money to buy a pen are from the female species. :D

"The Plastics" :lol:

@nabartek: girl ka pala :D

Para ba akong lalaki kung magpost? :D

^^ I think your username is what throws people off (looks/sounds masculine), plus the fact that most of the Pinoy forumers here are males anyway, we default in our minds that each new forumer is a guy unless otherwise specified by the forumer themselves.

you know its really wrong to say crab mentality ... i mean sorry for the crabs :colgate: you know crabs pull their fellow crabs up not down ..... the shear weight that pulls them down.

My opinion is almost the same as yours. Crabs would not let go of the food that they grab on no matter what. With so many crabs in cluster on that food, everyone would sink down and would not be hurt since they basically live underwater. And all of them would enjoy the meal all together.

But since that metaphor refers to crabs inside a trap-pot where they all hang-on to the bait and could not escape, it is more an act of selfishness or self-preservation since they don't know that they would be in a dinner table in a few hours. or Maybe they do? :lol:

Does this really exist? I've seen profiles with that IMSCF stuff, but in the non-internet life, wala pa naman. I thought SSC is spared from this topic, mali pala ako.

I heard Jasmine Trias has this syndrome. I think I remember seeing her profile on the American Idol website saying she is part Spanish and Chinese. There used to be a Manila Times article accusing her of having it. Too bad the article is gone now.

For further reading...

http://www.colonialmentality.com/

http://webpages.charter.net/motuahina/visaya/identity.html

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I am a Jew and IMGJSCP

:lol:

Para ba akong lalaki kung magpost? :D

yong 'Nabartek' di ba ibig sabihin non 'Najaberks'?

:rofl:
umepal na naman si manding

^^tigs yung pag ka tanga filipino mentality ba ? remember mo ba yung tao na untog sa sliding glass noong kumakain tayo sa Harana ..tagal na ka recover niya! di ko alma kung matatawa ako o maawa :lol: :lol: :lol:

haha..i guess pinoy mentality yung pinagusapan natin siya after..:lol: