Ang ayoko naman yung masyadong pagiging pakialamero/a ng ilan.

@Nabartek, ag-post ka ngamin ti piktyur mo dyay photo album thread:D

^^ Somehow that statement of yours Ty is loaded. :naughty: :lol:

^^tigs yung pag ka tanga filipino mentality ba ? remember mo ba yung tao na untog sa sliding glass noong kumakain tayo sa Harana ..tagal na ka recover niya! di ko alma kung matatawa ako o maawa :lol: :lol: :lol:

baka naman walang nakalagay na sliding door don sa pinto? :D

@Ty
anong ibig sabihin ng did jay bangers? di ko marunng mag-ilokano kasi panggalatok ako.

^^ I think that means "on the other side" Normand.

^^ I think that means "on the other side" Normand.

ganon ba? kasi pag may bago akong kakilala or na meet na from Ilocos yan ang expression ko sa kanila....Did Jay Banger ako ng Did Jay Banger..ang sarap kasi gawin toungue twister minsan

Haha! Tama si Kimber, it means "on the other side".:)

^^tigs yung pag ka tanga filipino mentality ba ? remember mo ba yung tao na untog sa sliding glass noong kumakain tayo sa Harana ..tagal na ka recover niya! di ko alma kung matatawa ako o maawa :lol: :lol: :lol:

naalala ko tuloy yung isang mamimili ng isang mall dito sa Cebu, pumasok siya sa isang liquor stall sa loob ng SM supermarket, gawa sa glass ang divider, pagpasok nya nabangga siya sa glass divider kaya nasugat noo nya... at nagsisigaw siya, gusto niyang idemanda ang SM dahil di daw linagyan ng babala signage (babala! wag kang bumangga sa parteng to:lol:)... kinabahan tuloy mga impleyado ng supermarket...hehe

^^ I think your username is what throws people off (looks/sounds masculine), plus the fact that most of the Pinoy forumers here are males anyway, we default in our minds that each new forumer is a guy unless otherwise specified by the forumer themselves.

Her name actually means na-lasing in Ilokano :)

ganon ba? kasi pag may bago akong kakilala or na meet na from Ilocos yan ang expression ko sa kanila....Did Jay Banger ako ng Did Jay Banger..ang sarap kasi gawin toungue twister minsan

Other side nga ang ibig sabihin...ginawa mo pang pangalan :lol: Di-diay bangir in traditional ilokano, puede ding i-diay bangir.

naalala ko tuloy yung isang mamimili ng isang mall dito sa Cebu, pumasok siya sa isang liquor stall sa loob ng SM supermarket, gawa sa glass ang divider, pagpasok nya nabangga siya sa glass divider kaya nasugat noo nya... at nagsisigaw siya, gusto niyang idemanda ang SM dahil di daw linagyan ng babala signage (babala! wag kang bumangga sa parteng to:lol:)... kinabahan tuloy mga impleyado ng supermarket...hehe

:rofl: :rofl:

Best time for RP to catch up with richer neighbors is now

By Doris Dumlao
Inquirer
Last updated 00:07am (Mla time) 01/29/2007

MANILA. Philippines--Can the Philippines ever catch up with its fast-growing neighbors in Asia? The chief economist of the World Bank thinks now is the golden opportunity to do so.

"We believe it is time for the country to adopt what we could call the Asian type of very faster growth and there is no doubt there’s enough dynamism and energy in this country for this to be possible and we certainly hope that this is certainly what will happen," World Bank senior vice president and chief economist Francois Bourguignon says.

Bourguignon, a French man, was recently in town to speak at a lecture-forum--a partnership between the Philippine Economic Society and the World Bank--on the role of equity in development. The French economist was in Manila for the very first time and took the chance to meet with economic managers.

The Philippine government, he believes, has done "fantastic" progress in improving its macroeconomic fundamentals, reversing the trend of ballooning debts and fiscal deficits in the last two years.

Bourguignon says the country shall benefit from a global economy that has been on an uptrend since the millennium--and that which was likely to be sustained in the years ahead--as well as the impetus provided by the two fastest-growing economies in the region, China and India.

"Today, the macroeconomic situation in the Philippines is quite encouraging. After several years which has been difficult for this country following the Asian crisis of 1997 and following some political events, of political instability, the Philippines may be now in position to take full advantage of global situation I was describing," Bourguignon says.

In its latest East Asia Update, the World Bank has projected that the country could post a gross domestic product growth of 5.7 percent this year, a respectable growth rate but one that still greatly lags the pace in the region. The East Asian region, as a whole, was forecast to post its fifth consecutive year of strong growth this year, backed up by a substantial decline in poverty. It is seen growing by about 8 percent, the second strongest pace in the five-year long economic expansion in the region, fueled by a 10 percent likely growth by China.

Opening up

Emerging East Asia comprises China, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam and some smaller economies--and four newly industrialized economies Hong Kong, Korea, Singapore and Taiwan.

Bourguignon says the country can catch up with its faster growing neighbors by maintaining a favorable investment climate, making the markets competitive and committing allocation of resources for human capital. He also cites the need to further liberalize the economy.

"Part of the way which a country can really reap the benefits of globalization is to be as efficient as possible, to make sure that there is no protected sector in the economy," he says.

Can the Philippines ever catch up with its fast-growing neighbors in Asia?

Yes! It only takes vision, hard work, and discipline.

Unlikely but possible, mas patterned sa mga Latin American model ang economy naten eh, slow but steady growth, di tulad sa Asia Pacific na above average but overheated... pag di sila nag-ingat magkakaron ng Asian financial crisis 2 at damay na naman tayo sa katangahan at kayabangan nila...

^^ I'd like the phrase "slow but steady growth" which is favorable on our side. Right now, we are on the midst of economic recovery. With the advanced economic gains we are currently experiencing such as a bullish market and increased foreign investments, we would likely to have that steady growth on our side this year.

Hopefully we can sustain this positive trend.

I just hope a peaceful and clean election, para hindi masira ang naumpisahan na.

^
But if the opposition loses, the elections are automatically not clean and peaceful. :D

Let's guard our votes, so that there will be less divisive mudslinging over the results of the elections. More political instability will only hold back our progress.

yong 'Nabartek' di ba ibig sabihin non 'Najaberks'?


Nabartek = nalasing/lasing(adj).



@Nabartek, ag-post ka ngamin ti piktyur mo dyay photo album thread:D


Jak kayat ngarud. Hehe. Madamdama tumaray kayu tu pay. Santo, haan ak nga celebrity gamin. Hehe

Yes! It only takes vision, hard work, and discipline.

yeah, the exact recepie for success. to bad, wala and mga policy makers natin nyan!:ohno:

I agree every filipinos must be disciplined enough,,,paalisin yang mga makakapal,at mga trapong pulitiko,,,,

peace to all

well.. I'd say we just need a change of outlook.. we don't need to think directly that the opposition is bad or the administration is cheating... we should all think as one... we should not be easily swayed by the charms of our politicians... we should all promote ourselves, and our country to best that we can... and not be the source of shame in the way we act, speak and think..

as our company says when we go to other countries or meet other nationals... remember that you carry your first name, (your company as your middlename and) Philippines as your surname....

as our company says when we go to other countries or meet other nationals... remember that you carry your first name, (your company as your middlename and) Philippines as your surname....

That's a very good mantra to keep in mind Pau! :okay:

well.. I'd say we just need a change of outlook.. we don't need to think directly that the opposition is bad or the administration is cheating... we should all think as one... we should not be easily swayed by the charms of our politicians... we should all promote ourselves, and our country to best that we can... and not be the source of shame in the way we act, speak and think..

as our company says when we go to other countries or meet other nationals... remember that you carry your first name, (your company as your middlename and) Philippines as your surname....

I agree. This is the right attitude. Even on our part here as FilAms, I am always mindful that I also represent the Pinoy race so I always put my best foot forward.

Sana lang mawala yung crab mentality natin....instead of pulling one another...try to achieve the success of your fellow pinoys...so we will all be up there...on the top...

di nman exclusive lang sating mga pinoy ang crab mentality e, nasa South East Asian forumers din yan eh, magpost lang ng magandang pic ng KL si malaysian eh andyan agad si Siamese na pumupula dun sa pics. tapos darating si Pinoy na ipagmamayabang yung kanyang MOA tapos maaasar (o inggit) si Malaysian at Siamese at sasabihing di ito ang 3rd largest. haaay! utak talaga ng mga Asyanong ito o, puro paurong, bakit b di natin magaya ang lebel ng Maturity ni European, para kasi tayong mga bata.:ohno:

yeah but you notice they fight other nationalities and usually protect their own. with pinoys they fight amongst each other and worship other nationalites.

Didn't you say manila was the ugliest city of all Asia in the Thai thread?

^^^haha, you got it right there crappy... I don't understand why so many Filipinos are so in to copying stuff from other nations... start it from the way we speak (we do speak English, but some of us are doing it the slang way, feeling ba), then the things we buy.. if we don't have what our neighbors have we grumble and to the best to have a better item than our neighbor.. that is why even in the smallest unit in our societies, there is corruption because of greed and desire.. that is why when it comes to the national level and in public office we have so much of these corrupt officials.. it's in the attitude also...

yeah but you notice they fight other nationalities and usually protect their own. with pinoys they fight amongst each other and worship other nationalites.

Didn't you say manila was the ugliest city of all Asia in the Thai thread?

yes i did, ayoko lang kasing maging bias, di katulad ng iba na sobrang nabubulagan ng patriyotismo na kung minsan ay wala na rin sa lugar,

yeah but you notice they fight other nationalities and usually protect their own. with pinoys they fight amongst each other and worship other nationalites.

Didn't you say manila was the ugliest city of all Asia in the Thai thread?

It wouldn't be a bad idea for us to be a little more clannish. Sure, our country has its negative aspects, but do we really need to speak ill about it to foreigners? No we don't. If there's any lesson we need to learn from the likes of Manny Pacquiao, Lea Salonga, Efren Reyes and many other Filipinos who have made their mark on the world stage, it's that we must always put our best foot forward and make our country look good, and this includes defending it from unfair criticisms as best we can.

yes i did, ayoko lang kasing maging bias, di katulad ng iba na sobrang nabubulagan ng patriyotismo na kung minsan ay wala na rin sa lugar,

Being silent doesn't mean you're biased. I just want to ask: why do you have to tell the world and in all places, the Thai forum, that Manila is the ugliest city in all of Asia? I know that we have a lot weaknesses in our country in almost all aspects but I don't think that we really have to shoot ourselves in the foot or worse, destroy our own image in front of everyone. Yes, there's is nothing wrong in saying things against our country wether it is true or not because you have the right to do so. But I just hope that you would be more responsible in the things that you would say, or shall I say, type. Our country is already down and actually has suffered a lot, you don't have to kick it further.

Moreover, why do you have to be so exaggerated in degrading our country. The statement "ugliest in Asia" is a strong statement. But how did you come up with that? I just hope that you would be more responsible next time...

^^^haha, you got it right there crappy... I don't understand why so many Filipinos are so in to copying stuff from other nations... start it from the way we speak (we do speak English, but some of us are doing it the slang way, feeling ba), then the things we buy.. if we don't have what our neighbors have we grumble and to the best to have a better item than our neighbor.. that is why even in the smallest unit in our societies, there is corruption because of greed and desire.. that is why when it comes to the national level and in public office we have so much of these corrupt officials.. it's in the attitude also...

I agree with you.. our culture has spurred corruption down to the family level...

And with regards with speaking ill of our nation and country.. I wish that if you would like to bad mouth your country do it in your native language and not in a language known by the world... I actually admire the Malaysians, Chinese, Thais and other Asians who are ready to get into a word war just to protect the image of their country... because they know that any bad image their country has reflects to them as well...

nyak! I just read it now.. that's why my lurking officemate told me that Filipinos are fighting in the Thai forum!... hay naku.. I hope that outside our forums let's keep our ires to ourselves.. di na natin kelangan ipakita ang pagka-socialite natin sa labas.. let's keep it within our community... actually it is best that even within our forums.. if we want to bad mouth our government and country.. mag-Tagalog, Bisaya, Bicolano, Ilocano o Kapampangan na lang tayo.... wag nang English, Kastila o Chavacano..

grabe naman kasi ibang tao dito, masyadong over the top. di na sana pinatulan pa . dun pa talaga sa Thai forums (eh mahirap nga umintindi mga tao dun), mas nagmukha tuloy na desperado mga Pinoy. iba kasi ang yabang sa nasyonalismo.

http://business.inquirer.net/money/breakingnews/view_article.php?article_id=46708

US businessmen: ‘Pass anti-red tape bill immediately’

By Veronica Uy
INQUIRER.net
Last updated 03:11pm (Mla time) 01/31/2007

MANILA, Philippines -- American businessmen in the country on Wednesday urged the Senate to fast-track the passage of a proposed law that seeks to cut red tape, suggesting that the chamber bypass the usual bicameral conference route and adopt the House version of the bill for signing into law.

At a hearing on the measures filed by Senators Juan Flavier, Panfilo Lacson, Aquilino Pimentel Jr., and Edgardo Angara, John Forbes, representative of the American Chamber of Commerce of the Philippines (ACCP), submitted a statement noting that with the “very little time left in the present Congress to pass legislation” and the “lateness of the hour,” the Senate may “avoid the , report the House-passed bill for signature of the President.”

“The reduction of red tape and corruption in the Philippines has long been a major concern of our members and potential investor,” Forbes said.

Forbes, a retired American diplomat married to a Filipina who said he considers the Philippines his home, cited eight national and international surveys which “constantly reveal the extent of concern over high levels of corruption and red tape in the Philippines.”

The surveys include a six-year study of Transparency International which puts the Philippines in the bottom third of its Corruption Perception Index; a three-year study of the World Bank/International Finance Corp. which also put the country in the bottom third of its Annual Doing Business Report; and the Asian Institute of Management, which ranks the Philippines 60 out of 61 countries for bribing and corruption, among others.

Lacson, head of the Senate committee on civil service and government reorganization, agreed with Forbes about the need to fast-track the bill. He said the minor differences between the Senate and House versions may make the fast-tracking possible.

The consolidated Senate bills aim to shorten procedures and lessen chances for corruption in transactions with government agencies by requiring all government agencies:

- To adopt fixed deadlines for completion of transactions;

- To regularly assess and upgrade frontline services of government offices;

- Those with frontline services, to regularly undertake time and motion studies, and undergo evaluation and improvement of transaction procedures.

- To set up service standards, or the Citizen's Charter, through information billboards posted at the main entrance of offices which list the procedures, the persons responsible for each step, the maximum time for each step, the documents and fees required in each step, and the procedure for filing complaints.
[B]
The other features of the bills are:

- The head of the office or agency shall be held accountable to the public in rendering fast, efficient, convenient, and reliable service.

- Any denial of request for access to government service shall be fully explained in writing, stating the name of the person making the denial and the grounds upon which the denial is based.

- Each office or agency shall establish a public assistance/complaints desk in all their offices, while all employees transacting with the public shall be provided with an official identification card which should be visibly worn during office hours.

- If an agency fails to act on an application or request, the said permit, license, or authority shall automatically be extended until a decision or resolution is rendered on the application for renewal.

- All agencies providing frontline services shall be subjected to a report card survey to be initiated by the Civil Service Commission (CSC), in coordination with the Development Academy of the Philippines (DAP).

- Light offenses such as refusal to accept or act on applications or requests, attend to clients or render services, or imposing additional irrelevant requirements will merit a 30-day suspension on the first offense; a three-month suspension on the second; and dismissal and disqualification from public service on the third.

- Grave offenses such as fixing or colluding with fixers will merit dismissal and perpetual disqualification from public service.

- Fixers face a maximum of six years' imprisonment or a fine of P200,000.

- The CSC, DAP, Office of the Ombudsman, and the Presidential Anti-Graft Commission shall promulgate the necessary rules and regulations within 90 days from the effectivity of the measure.

"The problem of red tape compounded by the incidence of corruption provides a very bleak picture of the business climate in our country," Lacson said.

Covered by the bill are all government offices and agencies including local government units and government-owned or -controlled corporations. Excluded are agencies performing judicial, quasi-judicial, and legislative functions.

@pau p1

yeah ur ryt we need a change of outlook........and i think we should hav unity,,,,,but some politician ay di naman talaga nakakatulong sa bansa,,,hope as u vote this coming election vote wisely.....coz nakakasalalay ang future nating lahat,
most esp. sa AMING mga TEENAGERS

peace to all

yes i did, ayoko lang kasing maging bias, di katulad ng iba na sobrang nabubulagan ng patriyotismo na kung minsan ay wala na rin sa lugar,

napaka enggot mo naman to say manila is the ugliest in asia.. have you been to a much poorer country in asia to consider that statement? di naman pinag uusapan ang patriotism eh, maging subjective ka lang and factual. you are the modern day makaturo! paksyet. :bash:

yes i did, ayoko lang kasing maging bias, di katulad ng iba na sobrang nabubulagan ng patriyotismo na kung minsan ay wala na rin sa lugar,

We are entitled to our own opinion but you have stepped beyond the boundaries by making an offensive post that Manila is the ugliest city IN A FOREIGN THREAD. It's downright immature to make that kind of comment without considering how the international community see us who are representing what should be the best Philippines can show to the world.

Yeah, what a jerk.

I did not like what bedista posted in the Thai Forum, such a sad thing.

indeed!

hopefully this will be a better year for our country.

yeah but you notice they fight other nationalities and usually protect their own. with pinoys they fight amongst each other and worship other nationalites.

Didn't you say manila was the ugliest city of all Asia in the Thai thread?

:lol:

Being silent doesn't mean you're biased. I just want to ask: why do you have to tell the world and in all places, the Thai forum, that Manila is the ugliest city in all of Asia? I know that we have a lot weaknesses in our country in almost all aspects but I don't think that we really have to shoot ourselves in the foot or worse, destroy our own image in front of everyone. Yes, there's is nothing wrong in saying things against our country wether it is true or not because you have the right to do so. But I just hope that you would be more responsible in the things that you would say, or shall I say, type. Our country is already down and actually has suffered a lot, you don't have to kick it further.

Moreover, why do you have to be so exaggerated in degrading our country. The statement "ugliest in Asia" is a strong statement. But how did you come up with that? I just hope that you would be more responsible next time...

^^ I agree with you, XP. I mean, a lot.

Yeah, what a jerk.

:lol: i second that

We are entitled to our own opinion but you have stepped beyond the boundaries by making an offensive post that Manila is the ugliest city IN A FOREIGN THREAD. It's downright immature to make that kind of comment without considering how the international community see us who are representing what should be the best Philippines can show to the world.

Some think they will gain the respect of foreigners by making ugly comments about the Philippines and trying to distance their identity from that of their fellow Filipinos. I think they will only earn the contempt of those foreigners for speaking ill about their own country. Foreigners look at us as one people, not separate individuals.

http://business.inquirer.net/money/breakingnews/view_article.php?article_id=46708

US businessmen: ‘Pass anti-red tape bill immediately’
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Our legislature can do us all a favor by passing this bill before focusing on campaigning. Red tape and corruption are main hindrances to the flow of foreign investment in the country. The passage of this bill will help make it easier to do business in the Philippines.

Some think they will gain the respect of foreigners by making ugly comments about the Philippines and trying to distance their identity from that of their fellow Filipinos. I think they will only earn the contempt of those foreigners for speaking ill about their own country. Foreigners look at us as one people, not separate individuals.

Yes, I agree with you. Some Pinoys don't understand that the world sees us in the collective view. They thought that distancing themselves from their homeland would make them a lot better than their countrymen, which is quite naive, I think. It's like saying bad things about your family in your neighbor's house...

While I also do not like it when Filipinos blindly praise something because it's Filipino, it's even worse when you outright degrade it because it is Filipino. I'll be the first one to say there are a lot of bad things about the Philippines(corruption/politics, poverty, and Filipinos who are ashamed of their own country, etc.), but I can also that there are a lot of good things about the country like the improving economy, the beautiful places, and the warm people. I'm willing to overlook the ugliness of it all because to me the beauty overpowers it. I'm speaking metaphorically I suppose, but it's true. I wish all the best for the country and our people. I grimace when horrible things happen to it and I rejoice when good things happen.

This is coming from someone who grew up in the US, and like some Filipino-Americans, I turned my back on the Philippines and I sometimes was ashamed of it. I'm different now. I'm embracing being Filipino and loving it. I hope those Filipinos who like to put down their own country realize that they are also putting down themselves. Defend your country, not blindly, but at least show that there's also good things about the Philippines.

Ok, I'm just rambling now but I hope my point stands.

bedista is just another self consciouse pinoy with an inferiority complex that hate their on their own country and put it down in order to feel a teeny bit more significant

but still I dont get this guy. In the Wow Manila thread, he was like all praises and positive but then again he made that infuriating comment so I'm not sure where he really stands.

napasubo na lang siguro yan, gustong magbidabidahan turned out wrong. nyak nyak!

but still I dont get this guy. In the Wow Manila thread, he was like all praises and positive but then again he made that infuriating comment so I'm not sure where he really stands.

He's probably a coocoo like a coocoo puff.

^
But if the opposition loses, the elections are automatically not clean and peaceful. :D.

:bash: i totally disagree to the max!!! :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: i can't help it, this is really wrong! :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:

--- double post ---- sori

This will definitely be another good year for the Philippines... Just choose the right politician and we'll definitely head the right way to prosperity.... Probably not just good but the best year for the country...

:bash: i totally disagree to the max!!! :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: i can't help it, this is really wrong! :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:

but that's the real score.. now, if most of the administration senatorial candidate win this may election, they surely have cheated! mark my word...Jinggoy would say that..

has this goverment done something good in the eyes of the opposition anyways? :ohno:

yes i did, ayoko lang kasing maging bias, di katulad ng iba na sobrang nabubulagan ng patriyotismo na kung minsan ay wala na rin sa lugar,

sinabi mo rin ba na pangit ka, para maunawaan ka nila

:lol: :rofl:

:rofl::lol:

yes i did, ayoko lang kasing maging bias, di katulad ng iba na sobrang nabubulagan ng patriyotismo na kung minsan ay wala na rin sa lugar

Di naman din tama eh... "uglieast in Asia" means malaking kasinungalingan... punta ka kaya sa Bangladesh o to some cities in India para matauhan ka kung sino "IN ASIA"

let's close that issue.. nagpasikat lang sya don...Tapos!

I found this article online..thought its an interesting read...
somehow amusing because of the obvious parallels between the two countries.


It’s Thailand’s turn to lose a billion dollars


DEMAND AND SUPPLY By BOO CHANCO


Alas! Thailand is now also suffering a problem we are so familiar with – lack of investor confidence. Like us, they have learned the fine art of shooting themselves in the foot, crippling what is already a successful run as one of Southeast Asia’s tiger economies.

The Philippine Star

I remember back in the 80s, economist Bernie Villegas once related a story to our Business Economics class at the then CRC, about a question posed to the Thais by a trade mission of Pinoys. Remember that this was the height of Thailand’s attractiveness to foreign investors so it was but natural for a Pinoy to ask the Thai trade official, what is the secret of Thailand’s success in attracting foreign investments?

The answer was so unexpected, it floored the Pinoy delegation. The Thai official said they sent a mission to the Philippines to study our investment incentives laws and regulations. And the secret of their success is that they drafted their own laws inspired by ours and implemented them with a passion.

That was so like a story I also heard when a Pinoy agriculture official asked his Thai counterpart what is the secret of Thailand in getting such big yields in their rice production? The secret, he was told, was simply sending Thai students to Los Baños, and then, making full use of the knowledge learned at UP and IRRI in Thai rice farms.

Now it seems, the Thais have reached the point of diminishing returns in their once successful strategy of learning from the Philippines. According to an article at the Singapore Straits Times last week, Thailand is about to lose a billion dollar investor too – Ford Motor, because of the uncertain business landscape caused by current fluidity in Thai investment laws and business climate.

Alas! Thailand is now also suffering a problem we are so familiar with – lack of investor confidence. Like us, they have learned the fine art of shooting themselves in the foot, crippling what is already a successful run as one of Southeast Asia’s tiger economies.

Citing new capital controls and restrictions on foreign ownership, Ford’s Washington-based vice-president for international government affairs Steve Biegun told journalists that there was a ‘sense of turmoil’ in Thailand… making it extremely difficult to do business in a globally competitive environment. What we need in our business, he said, is predictability.

A day before, according to the Straits Times, the influential Japan External Trade Organisation (Jetro) pegged Thailand last in positive business sentiment for Japanese firms among the five major Asean nations for the third consecutive month. Jetro’s president in Thailand, Mr Yoichi Kato, said political instability, the appreciation of the baht, rising oil prices, inflation and interest rates had combined to produce the pessimism.

The deepening skepticism among investors, the Straits Times reports, comes despite repeated assurances from top Thai officials that the country remains open to business as usual and is not flirting with protectionism. But policy changes since December have thoroughly spooked the market, as well as investors.

One expert I talked to observed that despite official assurances, there is a growing negative grassroots sentiment in Thailand towards foreign investors, which explains the controversy over the purchase of majority ownership of Thaksin’s phone company by the Singapore government’s investment arm. There is supposed to be a sense among ordinary Thais that too much of their economy is now in the hands of foreigners. Apparently, the move to limit foreign ownership in some corporations has popular support.

One more thing makes the Thais look like us. The Thais also have an airport problem that negatively affects investor sentiment. The new Suvarnabhumi International Airport outside Bangkok was dogged by corruption allegations throughout its planning and building. Politicians forced it to open before it was ready.

This $4-billion project was also embroiled in politics, taxiways are cracked so that planes are unable to use 11 out of 51 air bridges for boarding aircraft, the terminal has leaks, missed three deadlines to open, and some airlines even wonder whether it’s safe to fly into. All told, there are 61 glitches, problems and design flaws that need to be repaired at an estimated cost of 1.5 billion baht (US$45 million). Sounds like NAIA 3.

It didn’t help Thailand’s investment climate when bomb blasts on New Year’s Eve in Bangkok killed two people, hurt 42 and remain unexplained. Two grenades fired at a newspaper office and hotel early last week, the Straits Times reports, have added to an image of latent instability. Wow! They seem to be following our failed "business model" a little too closely.

Anyway, Ford would make a decision in the first half of the year, whether to keep their billion dollar investment in Thailand or move elsewhere. In the face of all these, Thai officials have also taken lessons from Toting Bunye. According to the Straits Times, "even as the warning signs pile up, top officials have been trying to talk up the economy, and the government still expects four-to five-percent growth in gross domestic product this year."

Sounds too eerily familiar! It’s too Pinoy for comfort.

source: http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=65663

^^ Weather weather lang yan. :D

I found this article online..thought its an interesting read...
somehow amusing because of the obvious parallels between the two countries.


It’s Thailand’s turn to lose a billion dollars


DEMAND AND SUPPLY By BOO CHANCO


Alas! Thailand is now also suffering a problem we are so familiar with – lack of investor confidence. Like us, they have learned the fine art of shooting themselves in the foot, crippling what is already a successful run as one of Southeast Asia’s tiger economies.

The Philippine Star

I remember back in the 80s, economist Bernie Villegas once related a story to our Business Economics class at the then CRC, about a question posed to the Thais by a trade mission of Pinoys. Remember that this was the height of Thailand’s attractiveness to foreign investors so it was but natural for a Pinoy to ask the Thai trade official, what is the secret of Thailand’s success in attracting foreign investments?

The answer was so unexpected, it floored the Pinoy delegation. The Thai official said they sent a mission to the Philippines to study our investment incentives laws and regulations. And the secret of their success is that they drafted their own laws inspired by ours and implemented them with a passion.

That was so like a story I also heard when a Pinoy agriculture official asked his Thai counterpart what is the secret of Thailand in getting such big yields in their rice production? The secret, he was told, was simply sending Thai students to Los Baños, and then, making full use of the knowledge learned at UP and IRRI in Thai rice farms.

Now it seems, the Thais have reached the point of diminishing returns in their once successful strategy of learning from the Philippines. According to an article at the Singapore Straits Times last week, Thailand is about to lose a billion dollar investor too – Ford Motor, because of the uncertain business landscape caused by current fluidity in Thai investment laws and business climate.

Alas! Thailand is now also suffering a problem we are so familiar with – lack of investor confidence. Like us, they have learned the fine art of shooting themselves in the foot, crippling what is already a successful run as one of Southeast Asia’s tiger economies.

Citing new capital controls and restrictions on foreign ownership, Ford’s Washington-based vice-president for international government affairs Steve Biegun told journalists that there was a ‘sense of turmoil’ in Thailand… making it extremely difficult to do business in a globally competitive environment. What we need in our business, he said, is predictability.

A day before, according to the Straits Times, the influential Japan External Trade Organisation (Jetro) pegged Thailand last in positive business sentiment for Japanese firms among the five major Asean nations for the third consecutive month. Jetro’s president in Thailand, Mr Yoichi Kato, said political instability, the appreciation of the baht, rising oil prices, inflation and interest rates had combined to produce the pessimism.

The deepening skepticism among investors, the Straits Times reports, comes despite repeated assurances from top Thai officials that the country remains open to business as usual and is not flirting with protectionism. But policy changes since December have thoroughly spooked the market, as well as investors.

One expert I talked to observed that despite official assurances, there is a growing negative grassroots sentiment in Thailand towards foreign investors, which explains the controversy over the purchase of majority ownership of Thaksin’s phone company by the Singapore government’s investment arm. There is supposed to be a sense among ordinary Thais that too much of their economy is now in the hands of foreigners. Apparently, the move to limit foreign ownership in some corporations has popular support.

One more thing makes the Thais look like us. The Thais also have an airport problem that negatively affects investor sentiment. The new Suvarnabhumi International Airport outside Bangkok was dogged by corruption allegations throughout its planning and building. Politicians forced it to open before it was ready.

This $4-billion project was also embroiled in politics, taxiways are cracked so that planes are unable to use 11 out of 51 air bridges for boarding aircraft, the terminal has leaks, missed three deadlines to open, and some airlines even wonder whether it’s safe to fly into. All told, there are 61 glitches, problems and design flaws that need to be repaired at an estimated cost of 1.5 billion baht (US$45 million). Sounds like NAIA 3.

It didn’t help Thailand’s investment climate when bomb blasts on New Year’s Eve in Bangkok killed two people, hurt 42 and remain unexplained. Two grenades fired at a newspaper office and hotel early last week, the Straits Times reports, have added to an image of latent instability. Wow! They seem to be following our failed "business model" a little too closely.

Anyway, Ford would make a decision in the first half of the year, whether to keep their billion dollar investment in Thailand or move elsewhere. In the face of all these, Thai officials have also taken lessons from Toting Bunye. According to the Straits Times, "even as the warning signs pile up, top officials have been trying to talk up the economy, and the government still expects four-to five-percent growth in gross domestic product this year."

Sounds too eerily familiar! It’s too Pinoy for comfort.

source: http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=65663

So.. the filipinos have been hoping for this article it seems...
It's ok... it just shows how good we were, and how jealous you are.

^ Please don't incite another bashfest here. It's just an article, a written product of one's opinions, so don't overreact ;)

what are you talking about? Anything wrong posting this article?:ohno:


paranoid!

^ Psst, no namecalling please! ;)

what are you talking about? Anything wrong posting this article?:ohno:


paranoid!


nothing at all...

but the line "Alas! Thailand is now also suffering a problem we are so familiar with" tells me something...

^ Okay, so go question the writer with your arguments, don't go generalizing the whole Filipino community right away ;)

So.. the filipinos have been hoping for this article it seems...
It's ok... it just shows how good we were, and how jealous you are.

Let's not incite a bashfest here. We don't have to be jealous of each other when one of us gets ahead. Rather, we should be glad that people's lives are improving, no matter what their nationalities are. An improved economy also improves our capability to help our neighbor countries.

To achieve a better quality of life for our peoples should not be seen as a competition, but a collective effort of the nations of the world. Thailand and the Philippines, being close neighbors, should be all the more concerned in promoting peace and stability in each other's territories.

then, that's the writter.. that does not necessarily reflect the rest of 85million Filipino.. And we're not jealous.. and never will...What's there to be jealous anyways...:ohno:

nothing at all...

but the line "Alas! Thailand is now also suffering a problem we are so familiar with" tells me something...

Well i guess I didn't make myself clear and I am sorry for it but I wasn't generalizing the Filipinos. I was directing my second line Espma

^^pffffttt how bout clicking on the link/source, there's a reason I posted that link..
THAT STATEMENT WHICH IS IN ITALICS IS PART OF THE THE ARTICLE..

How dare you come in here, and incite/insinuate something. The writer was merely making a statement, he mentioned some "facts"...e.g. regarding the rice yields and incentive laws/regulations...mind you those "facts" can easily be challenged.

The article is merely a short comparison between the two countries...No need to barge in here and accuse us of feeling inferior.

^^One thing is for sure, "Truth Hurts"

:ohno: :ohno:

I admit that I also feel bad when I read ""Alas! Thailand is now also suffering ...........blah blah"
To me, it sounds like someone's celebrating or feeling happy about it. Sorry if I'm wrong.

And I can't help noticing someone who degrades my country many times since City VS City.
:(

^^One thing is for sure, "Truth Hurts"

I hope the truth of your country doesn't hurt you, like ours now.
:(

nothing at all...

but the line "Alas! Thailand is now also suffering a problem we are so familiar with" tells me something...

'Alas' is different from 'At Last'. If you will going to look the English Dictionary 'Alas' is being used to express sorrow, grief, pity, concern, or apprehension of evil.

@cHemon
The sounds of Alas in your mind has different in meaning. That is an article written in English language for people who has broad range of English Vocabulary please don't misinterpret it as if the writer is very excited for this mischief that is happening in your country. sawasdee my friend.

The truth about our country doesnt hurt us anymore. Filipinos are survivor :D and just like the mythical bird the phoenix we always rise from our ashes ;) slowly but surely.

Espma is absolutely correct.

:ohno: :ohno:

I hope the truth of your country doesn't hurt you, like ours now.
:(

it does not.. we're infact happy with what's happening in here right now.. You may check the rest of the threads in this sub forum to tell you more...:yes:

nothing at all...

but the line "Alas! Thailand is now also suffering a problem we are so familiar with" tells me something...

Nobody made that comment except the editor of that article itself. Go blame him. What Espma posted is the actual news article. Just click the link to see for yourself.

:ohno: :ohno:

I admit that I also feel bad when I read ""Alas! Thailand is now also suffering ...........blah blah"
To me, it sounds like someone's celebrating or feeling happy about it. Sorry if I'm wrong.

And I can't help noticing someone who degrades my country many times since City VS City.
:(



I hope the truth of your country doesn't hurt you, like ours now.
:(

Actually, we are happy of the truth that the Philippine economy has been performing well for the past 4 years. :)

sheesh here we go again...

I just hope people would just read things posted c-a-r-e-f-u-l-l-y to avoid any misunderstanding... but sometimes that can't be helped... rather than letting your emotions get to you, just skip for a bit, (kung gusto mo tumumbling - bahala ka) then return when you have cooled off, then think what you might have posted was rational or you just made a fool of yourself...

Anyway... I do check different threads, and I am glad of diff country's developments... peace

has this goverment done something good in the eyes of the opposition anyways? :ohno:

true. however, the opposition is pessimistic about such things. u knw.. the rivalry. :)

but that's the real score.. now, if most of the administration senatorial candidate win this may election, they surely have cheated! mark my word...Jinggoy would say that..

cheating?? my goodness. u can never say that. there's always a possibility of the administration winning the people's votes by not cheating. and another thing, does the administration always do the "cheating"? think again... ive heard a lot of their(opposition) thing too.

the media also do a lot of stupid things to decieve us so don't be decieved, intimidated, and manipulated.

i don't know about who you want to vote. as for me, i vote the ones that have more or less the same principles as me. by the way, aren't we doing well in the economy already? :)

nah! you didnt get it.. read again that little phrase..

"Jinggoy would say that.."

filipinos love to argue..that is my observation...if they could argue or debate on certain issues..they would do it...I remember the people in LUneta at 12 midnight...who debates from one issue to another issue...

Thai people doesn't want argument or debates...they just keep quiet and air their sentiment deep within...and work, work , work....

We should follow their attitude...and for sure...we would shoot to the top in Asia...

at least we do not tolerate adventurism anymore...:D isnt that a better attitude? :D peace..

:ohno: :ohno:

I admit that I also feel bad when I read ""Alas! Thailand is now also suffering ...........blah blah"
To me, it sounds like someone's celebrating or feeling happy about it. Sorry if I'm wrong.

:(

Ncbmandy is right.
Alas is an exclamation used to show you are sad or sorry.
For many people, alas, hunger is part of everyday life.

filipinos love to argue..that is my observation...if they could argue or debate on certain issues..they would do it...I remember the people in LUneta at 12 midnight...who debates from one issue to another issue...

Thai people doesn't want argument or debates...they just keep quiet and air their sentiment deep within...and work, work , work....

We should follow their attitude...and for sure...we would shoot to the top in Asia...


Don't generalize all Filipinos man... We are not that low in standard people regarding of our productivity, intelligence, the quality of our work... Majority of us are considered the best in the world with regards to our working performance...;)
Not necessarily follow, just adjust coz debating is also a good sign that we are concious and advocative of different issues and of what is happening in our community.. great ideas emerge during debates. Maybe dbate plus more work coz we are already gearing up...

Don't generalize all Filipinos man... We are not that low in standard people regarding of our productivity, intelligence, the quality of our work... Majority of us are considered the best in the world with regards to our working performance...;)
Not necessarily follow, just adjust coz debating is also a good sign that we are concious and advocative of different issues and of what is happening in our community.. great ideas emerge during debates. Maybe dbate plus more work coz we are already gearing up...

This is one of the benefits of the freedom of speech guaranteed by our Constitution, we are able to freely speak our thoughts on important issues that affect our nation, and yes, great ideas emerge during debates. Other neighboring countries may be more advanced economically, but they don't have the same freedom.

The Department of Energy (DOE) is exploring the possibility of sourcing some of the country’s oil requirements from Venezuela and Kuwait, Energy Secretary Raphael P.M. Lotilla said.

He said tapping other potential sources of crude oil would help ensure a stable supply of oil for the country.

"We really try, as much as possible, to encourage diversification of crude supply. But we also have to do this in full support of the steps that our refiners in the country are doing. Government is not into refining... so it has to be in tandem with them," Lotilla said.

The bulk of the country’s oil requirement is currently sourced from the Middle East, particularly in Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Lotilla, however, admitted that while there is an existing offer from Venezuela to supply some of the Philippines’ oil requirement, there are still some logistical problems that have to be resolved.

"There is the difficulty of transporting oil (from Venezuela) to the Philippines," he said.

The energy chief also noted that the kind of crude being produced in Venezuela may not suit the required oil type in the Philippines. "Venezuelan oil is heavy crude and we don’t have yet the facilities to refine heavy crude," Lotilla said.

Venezuela ranked eighth among the world’s top oil exporters in 2005, according to the US Energy Information Administraton (EIA).

A member of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), Venezuela exported 2.2 million barrels per day in 2005. It also ranked 10th among the top world oil producers in the same year, producing 2.8 million barrels per day.

Meanwhile, Lotilla said Kuwait ranked seventh top oil exporter in 2005, exporting 2.3 million barrels per day. Another OPEC member- country, it also ranked 11th in terms of oil production.

The energy official said the government is still keen on taking into consideration the setting up of a national oil stockpile.

"The idea will still be there. Like down the line, we are already producing oil, then we can think of stockpiling, and convert our shares into volumes of oil and the stockpile. That’s one way of doing it," Lotilla said.

Two years ago, the Philippines had been urged by the US Department of Energy to develop a strategic stockpile program. During that time, the country had been severely threatened by a possible supply disruption amid high oil prices in the world market. Since then, the government, led by the DOE, has been trying to push through with the planned establishment of an oil stockpile.


--http://www.philstar.com/philstar/NEWS200702070710.htm
By Donnabelle l. Gatdula

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Ncbmandy is right.
Alas is an exclamation used to show you are sad or sorry.
For many people, alas, hunger is part of everyday life.

nyehehe, perhaps cHemon mistakenly seen it as "ATLAST" instead of "ALAS". very different meaning indeed. So cHemon, read carefully.

'Alas' is different from 'At Last'. If you will going to look the English Dictionary 'Alas' is being used to express sorrow, grief, pity, concern, or apprehension of evil.

@cHemon
The sounds of Alas in your mind has different in meaning. That is an article written in English language for people who has broad range of English Vocabulary please don't misinterpret it as if the writer is very excited for this mischief that is happening in your country. sawasdee my friend.

The truth about our country doesnt hurt us anymore. Filipinos are survivor :D and just like the mythical bird the phoenix we always rise from our ashes ;) slowly but surely.

Espma is absolutely correct.

:ohno: :ohno: :ohno: Please check your grammar and syntax first before you comment on our neighbor's proficiency in english. HOW EMBARASSING!! considering that you're form the "3rd largest english speaking nation":bash:
try the book "ENGLISH 101 for dummies", that might help you:ohno:

Again..puros argument...I forgot to point out...useless argument is what I mean..not intelligent and constructive ones...

Sometimes, we waste so much time out of arguments and debates....I won't add to the flame...just trying to clarify my point...

guys.. let's not try to push on anybody their grammar.. people make mistakes.. even some Americans make grammatical errors or even does not spell well... let's not be too perfect on this...

anyways.. about Venezuela and Kuwait... well I just hope that they provide cheaper oil than Saudi and Iran... and I just hope we can develop our oil resources in Palawan....

yan na naman si ano...:ohno:

Venezuela for oil? Ehh.. Their current president is quite the douchebag right now.

yan na naman si ano...:ohno:

Oo nga. Nakakaasar na.

anyways.. about Venezuela and Kuwait... well I just hope that they provide cheaper oil than Saudi and Iran... and I just hope we can develop our oil resources in Palawan....

AFAIK, Kuwaiti oil is almost at par with the Arabian oil, but definitely Venezuela has lower prices. The Malampalaya oil reserve should be exploited immediately to lessen the importation of oil.

:ohno: :ohno: :ohno: Please check your grammar and syntax first before you comment on our neighbor's proficiency in english. HOW EMBARASSING!! considering that you're form the "3rd largest english speaking nation":bash:
try the book "ENGLISH 101 for dummies", that might help you:ohno:

First of all, he is trying to clarify the expression of Alas! to enlighten our neighboring forumers. Second, please don't post here to teach us grammatically correct English because its pointless since we are not paying for 'your expertise' on how to use the language. Quit being one of the typical grammar nazi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammar_nazi).

^^Dont mind him Askal. Why should listen to a filipino who already embarass his own capital city in the thai forum. 'Bedista' is already synonymous to the word 'embarassment' ha ha ha based on what he did in the thai forum and that is a proven fact :lol: just my two cents goy

^^Dont mind him Askal. Why should listen to a filipino who already embarass his own capital city in the thai forum. 'Bedista' is already synonymous to the word 'embarassment' ha ha ha based on what he did in the thai forum and that is a proven fact :lol: just my two cents goy

I think he got issues. :lol:

nationality issues?:D

^^mental issues I believe.

oh..That's it i guess.:D

I guess, we're taking off considering the economic growth that we had for the past years and the mega projects that we have now we can surely be on top once again...And take note these mega projects are all over the country not focused to the capital city...

^^ True that. :okay:

^^mental issues I believe.

:lol:

Kidlat Tahimik can’t be filmmaker’s legal name

By Delmar Cariño
Northern Luzon Bureau
Last updated 06:39pm (Mla time) 02/23/2007

LA TRINIDAD, Benguet -- The Court of Appeals has dashed the hopes of Baguio City-based filmmaker Eric de Guia to legally change his name to Kidlat Tahimik.

While the appellate court recognized that De Guia's desire to change his name was based on nationalistic and patriotic motivations, the grounds he cited are not among those the law lists for an official change of name.

The Philippine Daily Inquirer on Friday obtained a copy of the six-page decision The of the Court of Appeal's sixth division, composed of Associate Justices Rodrigo Cosico, Edgardo Sundiam and Cecilia Librea-Leagogo, dated November 20, 2006.

De Guia was stunned by the decision.

"I got a copy of the decision two weeks ago. It's a symbolic loss for me. I [have been] known as Kidlat for how many years already," he said.

The ruling reversed the regional trial court's decision here allowing De Guia to use his pseudonym as his name on record.

In a petition filed before the trial court here on July 28, 1988, De Guia asked Judge Francis Buliyat to allow the changing of his name for being a product of the country's colonial history.

De Guia, born here on October 3, 1942, said his name was a reflection of the country's culture that had been "greatly influenced by Western imperialist interests."

He said Kidlat Tahimik, a name he had used for the past 27 years, was indigenous and "more Filipino."

He got the name from a character in his internationally acclaimed film "Mababangong Bangungot [Perfumed Nightmares]."

On November 28, 2002, Buliyat granted the petition and ordered the civil registry office to erase De Guia's name on his birth certificate and enter Kidlat Tahimik as his new name.

But the Office of the Solicitor General blocked the move by filing a notice of appeal and calling Buliyat's decision "contrary to law and evidence."

The Court of Appeals said De Guia's grounds for filing the petition were not included in the enumeration provided by law for name change.

"De Guia's desire to erase vestiges of the country's colonial past from his name and to adopt a name that is distinctly Filipino does not fall under any of the recognized grounds for an official change of name," it said.

Under the law, the grounds that would allow a change of name are:

* When the name is ridiculous, dishonorable or extremely difficult to write or pronounce
* When the change results as a legal consequence of legitimization or adoption
* When the change was intended to avoid confusion
* When one has continually used and been known since childhood by a Filipino name and is unaware of alien parentage
* When the change is based on a sincere desire to adopt a Filipino name to erase signs of former alien links
* When the name causes embarrassment.

"The petitioner's noble intentions in wanting to dispel the remnants of our colonial past can be achieved through means other than the change of his name," the decision said.

But the Court of Appeals said De Guia could continue using Kidlat Tahimik as his pseudonym in the pursuit of his artistic and filmmaking ambitions.

^^ He couldn't even invoke this:

"* When the change is based on a sincere desire to adopt a Filipino name to erase signs of former alien links"

as a basis for a change of name because Spanish names have become decidedly Filipino.

Petra Bagonggahasa has a better chance, I guess.

Using this basis:

"* When the name is ridiculous, dishonorable ... "

But then... :dunno:

^^ He couldn't even invoke this:

"* When the change is based on a sincere desire to adopt a Filipino name to erase signs of former alien links"

as a basis for a change of name because Spanish names have become decidedly Filipino.

Petra Bagonggahasa has a better chance, I guess.

Using this basis:

"* When the name is ridiculous, dishonorable ... "

But then... :dunno:

That is because bagoñggahasa means newly sharpen (ex. Mr/Mrs. Sharp) It was only later on that it was given malice by the people.

Other Beliefs



· Don't cut your nails at night, or on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, or Fridays. (Days that have R in their spelling when translated in Tagalog i.e. Martes, Miyerkules, Biyernes)

·
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that is a chinese... belief... a frined of mine who is fond of cutting her fingernails at the night was warned by her father not to do that ( they're chinese) ,... well she just ignored it..

that is a chinese... belief... a frined of mine who is fond of cutting her fingernails at the night was warned by her father not to do that ( they're chinese) ,... well she just ignored it..

Some Filipino-Chinese are still into that supertitious belief, no wonder those Asian-Nail/body grooming salon close at 5:pm except in some big shopping malls here in the US. :)


· If you happen to get lost, invert your clothes and you will find your way.

Style yan ng barkada kong kano to save on his laundry issues. But he still get lost. :lol:

^^ its not good to ignore chinese superstitions, in my experience they often are true...

^^ its not good to ignore chinese superstitions, in my experience they often are true...

Agree, the main reason for that night nail clipping belief is that the person will be visited by a ghost.

Other beliefs assimilated are sweeping the dirt on the floor at night is bad and all dirt and garbage must be taken out the back door.

I'm not sure if "bawal magpautang sa gabi" is also a Filipino belief. Pero, I'm sure, puwedeng mangutang --- :lol:

that is a chinese... belief... a frined of mine who is fond of cutting her fingernails at the night was warned by her father not to do that ( they're chinese) ,... well she just ignored it..

Hehehe ang napapansin ko lang when I cut my nails at night is that nagkakaroon nang parang maliliit na punit sa skin just above my fingernails. Weird. Pag sa araw ako nagka-cut naman di naman nagkakaganun.

[B][I]
· When a house lizard makes a lot of noise, expect a letter or a visitor.


Ewan ko pero mama ko everytime makakarinig ng ganyan, magna-knock siya sa wall or sa table basta kung san puwede tumunog. Kelangan daw sagutin para mas sigurado na dumating :lol:

our mentality is fine
i can communicate through telephaty

Colonial mentality of Filipinos thats also perpetrated by the Government and Institutions of the Republic.

For them, English and the Americanismo is the only way to be. They try to pepper their language with as much english words as they can like to make them sound more pleasing to their countrymen and welcomed to the nation they have always dreamed of belonging to.. The U.S. And the more they suck at Tagalog or in any other Philippine language, the more they are liked. Colonial Mentality.

You'd rarely find people in the Philippines talk about their own Filipino languages and Filipino history and Filipino culture. Nobody gives a shi* about them there. The more you are ignorant of them, the more you are liked. The more you don't know about your history and culture, 'the more Filipino you are'.

Kamot ulo. 'Kase naman i wasn't taught that eh... Forgot na me.. Cool e.."

Filipino languages? Tagalog? Filipino History? Who Cares??
"After all, I speak English. They don't!"


Colonial Mentality of the American Neocolonial Government of the Philippines
1946-2006


Kailan kaya mangyayari nang katulad sa Gresya at Italya, tayong mga Filipino magkakasalo sa wika pinaguusapan, pinagdedebatehan, pinahahalagan ang tunay na kasaysayan, kulturang totoo at hindi pinagdududahan, komersyo at kalakakalan sa wika at kultura ng bayan? (Philippines is among very few countries in Asia that doesn't use its language and culture in national economy. )


The identity of a Filipino today is of a person asking what is his identity. - Nick Joaquin

Asan na ba itong si Juan? Sayang din ang mga contribusyon niya sa mga talakayan dito.

true at galit tayo sa mga nognog

Si Tigidig ang numero uno dyan. Hindi pala kayo puedeng mag-bunk-in ni Chot. Hindi kayo magkakasundo.

^ :lol: whuuuut nognog ba si chot. loko lang i have black friends :colgate: chosen nga lang parang akong God

Hahaha... natawa ako rito. :lol: Nanunumbalik ang memories ng katatawanan. :lol:

:lol:

Hehehe ang napapansin ko lang when I cut my nails at night is that nagkakaroon nang parang maliliit na punit sa skin just above my fingernails. Weird. Pag sa araw ako nagka-cut naman di naman nagkakaganun.

I would advise you ,.. not to cut yer fingernails at night... you'lle be prone to accident daw...

Juan we are considered pacific islanders under those categories. Did you know that south asians fall under the "Other" category. hehehehehe, that sucks for them.

In addition to my previous post, i would never survive in a chinese school. Despite my being 1/4 chinese i am still mathematically challenged.

oh my gosh, i remember once i was in school taking this test, and I saw filipino listed under the category of "Pacific Islander" along with all the rest of them, and there was a seperate category of "Asian" with Chinese, Japanese, Thai, all of that, and Filipino wasn't under that category. I hated that, i remember that, it was so incorrect

Does this really exist? I've seen profiles with that IMSCF stuff, but in the non-internet life, wala pa naman. I thought SSC is spared from this topic, mali pala ako.

speaking of this, and then there's AJ Tablado...I'm Filipino Spanish French German whatever the hell he said...and then he said ethnic mutt which means his desire to be seen as a mixed race person rather than Filipino

^^ Exactly. And I think that contributed to his downfall because Pinoys who are fond of text messaging, did not do so to save him. He was a much better singer/performer and better-looking than the other male contestants pa naman.

^^ Exactly. And I think that contributed to his downfall because Pinoys who are fond of text messaging, did not do so to save him. He was a much better singer/performer and better-looking than the other male contestants pa naman.

^^ yea, totally, good point, i thought that too, he was sort of guapo too, moreno, even though he had ringings of gayness with that high singing voice of his, yea totally, that was an important part of it, who wants to support a Filipino who's not proud of their roots? That's what made me very very very suspicious of Jasmine Trias and that Pussy Cat skank at first, and that girl from that movie A Knight's Tale, and I'm still not totally accepting of them for that reason, especially Nicole, because I never liked mixed Filipinos who always list Filipino last. That may not seem like it's important, but where I grew up, it made all the difference and spoke droves in it's implications.

Here's my take

I am a Filipino, as a citizen.

I have a degree of Spanish and Chinese blood though.

Being a Filipino is a state of mind and of the heart. Regardless of your ethnic make-up, it's how you see yourself and how you feel that makes you a Filipino.

you know, a lot of my best friends growing up were Chinese, not Chinese-Filipino, but CHINESE (as in no family connections to the Philippines), and I loved them. Then as an adult, I met a lot of Chinese-Filipinos of all ages hoping them to be like the nice Chinese friends I have, and had growing up, and I was greatly disappointed. I don't know why Filipinos would want to be seen as Filipino-Chinese.

Oh I didn't know that Nicole listed Filipino last because when I read her bio she mentioned Filipino and Russian lineage.

Yeah, they should take pride in being Filipinos.

That's what made me very very very suspicious of Jasmine Trias and that Pussy Cat skank at first, and that girl from that movie A Knight's Tale, and I'm still not totally accepting of them for that reason, especially Nicole, because I never liked mixed Filipinos who always list Filipino last. That may not seem like it's important, but where I grew up, it made all the difference and spoke droves in it's implications.

HEY! she's a very hot skank. :rant:

anyway, i have always wondered why filipino stores always name themselves Asian Store, instead of just Pinoy store... :dunno:

you know, a lot of my best friends growing up were Chinese, not Chinese-Filipino, but CHINESE (as in no family connections to the Philippines), and I loved them. Then as an adult, I met a lot of Chinese-Filipinos of all ages hoping them to be like the nice Chinese friends I have, and had growing up, and I was greatly disappointed. I don't know why Filipinos would want to be seen as Filipino-Chinese.Well, maybe you just haven't met nice Filipino-Chinese like me. :lol:

^^ yea, totally, good point, i thought that too, he was sort of guapo too, moreno, even though he had ringings of gayness with that high singing voice of his, yea totally, that was an important part of it, who wants to support a Filipino who's not proud of their roots? That's what made me very very very suspicious of Jasmine Trias and that Pussy Cat skank at first, and that girl from that movie A Knight's Tale, and I'm still not totally accepting of them for that reason, especially Nicole, because I never liked mixed Filipinos who always list Filipino last. That may not seem like it's important, but where I grew up, it made all the difference and spoke droves in it's implications.Come now... I don't know much about this Pussy Cat skank, but what's the problem with listing Filipino last? At least, she listed it. :lol: Was there malice in listing it last? It's not like she was denying or was ashamed of it, right? (If she was, then that's a different story.)

On the other hand, don't you think we're being a little bit too sensitive about this whole Filipino blood thing? What if the person really just has a tiny drop of Pinoy blood? Even if it's more than just a drop, what if one's upbringing is really not "Filipino"? Should these multiracial/multi-ethnic Filipino-whatever be expected to value their Filipino-ness more than their other "blood"? Would it be better for them to not merely acknowledge their heritage, but pretend to be proud of it just to curry favor with the Filipino crowd?

Just so there's no mistake in what I'm trying to say... I'm all for being proud of one's heritage, but let's not go to the extreme where we expect others to be equally so, or that we have to shove it down other people's throats.)

(Having said that, I can't help but be pleased that Apl of BEP sings in Filipino/Tagalog. :okay: )

Being a Filipino is a state of mind and of the heart. Regardless of your ethnic make-up, it's how you see yourself and how you feel that makes you a Filipino.

That's why some people say "I am _______ (insert any ethnicity/race/citizenshipp) by choice".

Come now... I don't know much about this Pussy Cat skank, but what's the problem with listing Filipino last? At least, she listed it. :lol: Was there malice in listing it last? It's not like she was denying or was ashamed of it, right? (If she was, then that's a different story.)

On the other hand, don't you think we're being a little bit too sensitive about this whole Filipino blood thing? What if the person really just has a tiny drop of Pinoy blood? Even if it's more than just a drop, what if one's upbringing is really not "Filipino"? Should these multiracial/multi-ethnic Filipino-whatever be expected to value their Filipino-ness more than their other "blood"? Would it be better for them to not merely acknowledge their heritage, but pretend to be proud of it just to curry favor with the Filipino crowd?

Just so there's no mistake in what I'm trying to say... I'm all for being proud of one's heritage, but let's not go to the extreme where we expect others to be equally so, or that we have to shove it down other people's throats.)

(Having said that, I can't help but be pleased that Apl of BEP sings in Filipino/Tagalog. :okay: )

i like you QuietLife haha

^^:)

This kind of reminds me of the hullabaloo that was raised by Blacks when Tiger Woods said that he was "Cablinasian" -- as in Caucasian-black-Indian-Asian.

Woods has a black father (or to be precise, a half-black, one-quarter American Indian, one-quarter white father) and a Thai mother (or, with the same caveat, a half-Thai, half-Chinese mother).

Well, he was right to choose not to be pigeonholed in just being black when he is clearly of different racial and ethnic combinations. Nicole Scherzinger is the same. She is a combination of Russian-German and Filipino. Her father is white.

I don't know about AJ Tablado who claims to be hetsetera, hetsetera -- a mixed mutt. Filipinos by definition are mixed mutts anyway.

As long as they are not repudiating their "Filipino-ness" or downplaying it, then it's all good. But then, I guess, it is really a matter of self-identification. If they embrace it with sincerity and pride, then well and good. If they don't, then don't expect the Filipinos to embrace them.

Vanessa Minillo and Phoebe Cates downplay their Filipino bloodlines (their mothers are Filipinas) not because they don't like to be identified as having Filipino blood, but because they have been estranged from their mothers. But these are still mentioned in write-ups about them.

and again, Nicole Scherzinger is one hot pussy cat skank weheeehee
also Vanessa Minnilo.

now that white looking dude who always sits right next to AJ Tabaldo's mom during his performances, aint that his dad?

^^ Ah yeah... if they're hotties, how can we disown them? Kahit sapilitan, Filipinas (Filipinos) 'yan. :lol: :D

Ever get asked the question "Where are you from?" I do, and I let them guess first to see if they can tell, yet more often than not, they can't guess that I'm Filipino. I've heard all the Asian ethnicities and some Hispanic ones, but no one ever guesses Filipino. I guess my Spanish last name and Islander features throws them off. :lol:

I am asked that a lot. I don't know what to answer at first because I didn't know whether they were asking geographic location. It seems quite offputting to ask that question. But I guess they are curious.

I ask first, "What do you mean?" "You mean originally?"

Asian folks ask me that. Hispanics ask me that. Also Blacks and Whites. Those who have encountered a lot of Filipinos are able to identify right away.

But, I'm surprised when Chinese and Japanese start conversing with me in their language assuming I was from their country. The same with Hispanics.

^^ napagkamalan na akong egyptian and chinese... ang layo :lol:

^^ Actually puede @Kyle.

When foreigners asked me ~ "Where are you from?" ~

I usually answer, with a malutong na "aym prom da Pilipins" ~ surprisingly, no one have a follow up question of "Where is that?"

Even my nephew and niece whose father is a Caucasian from Texas knew that they are of mix Filipino, Chinese and American decent.

One incident in our company when a Latino and a Chinese guy was arguing that I'm one of them, The Mexican dude said I usually speak some Spanish with him while the Chinese dude said I speak some Chinese with him.
But the Pinoys that I'm with just laugh it aside when they were asked of what I am. They usually say "he is a Bugoy and he is one of us". :lol:

^^ napagkamalan na akong egyptian and chinese... ang layo :lol:

You do have that "pharoah-ish" look. :colgate:

When foreigners asked me ~ "Where are you from?" ~

I usually answer, with a malutong na "aym prom da Pilipins" ~ surprisingly, no one have a follow up question of "Where is that?"

Even my nephew and niece whose father is a Caucasian from Texas knew that they are of mix Filipino, Chinese and American decent.

One incident in our company when a Latino and a Chinese guy was arguing that I'm one of them, The Mexican dude said I usually speak some Spanish with him while the Chinese dude said I speak some Chinese with him.
But the Pinoys that I'm with just laugh it aside when they were asked of what I am. They usually say "he is a Bugoy and he is one of us". :lol:
:rofl: Bugoy it is from this day forward.

You do have that "pharoah-ish" look. :colgate:Pwede ngang pumasang egyptian si kyle.

Si Kimber, pwede namang Jezebel. :lol: :jk:

i like you QuietLife hahaI like you, too, Matt. :naughty: :lol: :jk:

anyway, this may not have anything to do with the topic, but ever since i came to America, i've had to deal with this dilemma: whether Filipinos are Asians or Pacific Islanders. :lol: so where do we really fall under? some pinoys i met would claim they're Pac islanders while many would say they're without a doubt Asian. I never really thought we could be any other race/ethnicity but Asian until i see for myself how filipino appearance seems closer to polynesian in the global village. So if you check my myspace now, i rep P.I. (just so people would not give me that "you're not asian" stare. haha) But im comfy too being Asian.. Actually most of the time i just say im Filipino but since there's only those 2 to choose from in them ethnicity questionnaires. hehe, i just say P.I. what do you guys think?

Juan we are considered pacific islanders under those categories. Did you know that south asians fall under the "Other" category. hehehehehe, that sucks for them.

In addition to my previous post, i would never survive in a chinese school. Despite my being 1/4 chinese i am still mathematically challenged.

How about an Asian Pacific Islander? We're Asians that happens to inhabit islands in the Western Pacific. :colgate:


Ok, for those who are based in North America who have to fill out EEO Race and Ethnicity data collection cards, here is the latest Federal guidelines on how to identify yourselves. Those from the Philippines are Asians, not Pacific Islanders. Here are the race/ethnicity breakdowns:

Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander (Not Hispanic or Latino) - A person having origins in any of the peoples of Hawaii, Guam, Samoa, or other Pacific Islands.

Asian (Not Hispanic or Latino) - A person having origins in any of the original peoples of the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian Subcontinent, including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippine Islands, Thailand, and Vietnam.

Source: http://www.eeoc.gov/eeo1/instruction_rev_2006.html

Pwede ngang pumasang egyptian si kyle.

Si Kimber, pwede namang Jezebel. :lol: :jk:

I thought jezebel was babylonian...

one of my closest female friends looks egyptain too,..
when we went to cebu together, people kept asking from what country we were from....

here's what she looks like..

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b198/kyle_Lark/ericaincar.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b198/kyle_Lark/ericasideways.jpg

Pwede ngang pumasang egyptian si kyle.

Si Kimber, pwede namang Jezebel. :lol: :jk:

Ano na naman yan Jezebel? :lol:

Dyesebel daw.

^^ Mismo! :lol: Tingnan ninyo yung pose ni Kimber sa avatar niya. Di ba mala-Dyesebel?

^^ :lol: :lol: di ba si cleopatra ang nasa kama??

si jezebel ang whore of babylon.. :jk:

Ok, so it happened again today. The Hispanic guy who served me soup thought I was Hispanic. And the Chinese cashier thought I was Chinese.

Ok, so it happened again today. The Hispanic guy who served me soup thought I was Hispanic. And the Chinese cashier thought I was Chinese.

You should have given the server a wink and the cashier an exact amount, no tip. :lol:


GOOTOOOM na ako!

^^ But they were talking fast to me in their language already. So buking.

^^ But they were talking fast to me in their language already. So buking.

Hehehe, I can imagine the fast talking cashier once in B.C. Chinatown, speaking to me in fast cantonese, so I just bow and said, I'm Japanese.... niyahahha!

^^ then just nod your head and smile,.. that's hwat I did to the chinese na napagkamalan ako..

They wanted to make small talk kasi eh. :D

^^ I remember back in acting class, were we were taught how to interpret what a person is saying without undertsanding any word, I guess that helps me with other races...

Hehehe, I can imagine the fast talking cashier once in B.C. Chinatown, speaking to me in fast cantonese, so I just bow and said, I'm Japanese.... niyahahha!

Why what Chinese language do you speak? Hokkien?

Kinakausap ka na naman ng datu sa kabila. Pareho pala kayo na may Malay, Chinese and Spanish blood pero di kayo mag-blend. :D

Why what Chinese language do you speak? Hokkien?

Kinakausap ka na naman ng datu sa kabila. Pareho pala kayo na may Malay, Chinese and Spanish blood pero di kayo mag-blend. :D

Hookien lang, pag nasa restoran ako, I can understand Cantonese. :D

Yay!, batbatan ng relos lang yan with Datu. Medyo laking kalye kasi ako while Datu must be a well bred crown prince.

I'd just like to share this, this was written by a batchmate of mine from high school , I just encountered his blog...
and I thought his idea were relevant to the topic..and he has good insight... oh yeah he was also our class president

But You Are Asian

Thailand has beffudled, confused, perplexed and flabbergasted me many a time during this past month. But I guess such feelings are to be expected when one is immersing oneself in a new culture. What is funny is that in this past week, during my site visit, I have had some payback. In this one week, I have caused jaws to drop and heads to turn. Because of me, people have gone speechless and I have seen more people scratch their heads in 7 days than I have in my whole life. I have beffudled, confused, perplexed, and flabbergasted so many people from rural Thailand and their beffudlement, confusion, perplexedness (is that even a word?) and flabbergastedness (I am creating new words as I go) have manifested themselves in these 4 words: BUT YOU ARE ASIAN

Yes, I am Asian. Filipino, to be exact. But I am also American and I've spent the past 5 years of my life living in California and while I am very Filipino, I am also very Californian. I also happen to be a Peace Corps volunteer which means I sort of work for the United States Government. None of what I wrote above would be a source of confusion for people living in the United States or for anyone who has had experience with American diversity. But for the people of rural Thailand, I am an anomaly!
To the people of rural Thailand, I am:

a "farang" who does not have blond hair or blue eyes.

an Asian looking man (they all think I am Thai...or Chinese...or Japanese...or Korean) who does not speak Thai, Chinese, Japanese, or Korean.

an English speaking Asian looking man who wears farang clothes who does not speak Thai but loves rice but does not drink beer out of a straw.

a Farang who looks like a Thai man because I am darker than a white man but I am also lighter skinned than a Thai man so therefore I am Chinese but I speak English so therefore I am American but I have black hair (not blond) so I am Thai but I am......

You get the picture.

Traditionally, the only contact people from very rural Thailand have had with farangs have been with the older white men who have married women from their villages. So when they heard that they would be receiving a visitor from the United States, I can only imagine the images that danced in their heads--tall, white skin, blond hair, blue eyes...

And of course they got me!

And thus the ensuing confusion (and the fun of it all):

Brian, a current serving volunteer who hosted me for 2 days was called a liar by a person in his village for introducing me as an American; Brian's principal was little more polite and did a decent job of masking his disbelief; the person who met me in the bus station at my village told me I did not look American; I heard "mungkan kon Thai" (same as Thai) echo through the mouths of my city hall's staff when I arrived to meet the mayor; and the supervisor of my Education Service Area Office gave me the "I have a meeting with an American in a couple of minutes, what can I do for you?" look.

I once heard the Peace Corps experience described as being akin to putting on a big, purple bunny suit and dancing up to people telling them you are there to help. Being an Asian American volunteer in rural in Thailand is like putting on the big, purple, bunny suit and dancing up to people as well...only that all the other people are also wearing big, purple, bunny suits and dancing. The difference is that while they are doing the Macarena, you are doing the Roger Rabbit.

Another current volunteer who is also Asian American and has been in Thailand for one year told me that the situation has been difficult for him and at times, has even caused him to be bitter. This past week has shown me where the bitterness can come in--its never easy seeing people get diasppointed because of the color of your skin--but its also shown me how, with a good sense of humor, the situation can be a source of great stories.
The looks of confusion that replaced the original looks of doubt when I started introducing myself in English were priceless. Even funnier was how amazed the Thais were when I took off my watch and they saw the difference between my skin tones (biking 20 k a day under the sun for a month will make you dark!) And when I showed them my legs--which are as pasty a white as any other legs you will ever see--I had the Thai people doubled up and rolling in laughter.

So while the disappointed and doubting faces can be difficult to deal with at first, the idea of being able to educate people about the diversity that exists in this world (and the fun that comes out of it) can be such a great experience. Plus, as I spent more time in my village and laughed and joked around with the people, I sensed the happiness they had with their new visitor...even if I wasn't what they had expected in the first place.

^^ Baka naman gusto ninyo mag-create tayo ng separate category just like we did here in SSC. We have our own thread separate from Asians. :D

" i don't get it, what do you mean?? " :colgate: ^^

Si Kimber, pwede namang Jezebel. :lol: :jk:

I thought jezebel was babylonian...

Ano na naman yan Jezebel? :lol:

Dyesebel daw.

Mismo! :lol: Tingnan ninyo yung pose ni Kimber sa avatar niya. Di ba mala-Dyesebel?

:lol: :lol: di ba si cleopatra ang nasa kama??

si jezebel ang whore of babylon.. :jk:


I see that y'all were busy while I was away. :lol:

^^ that's because we all look up to you kimber... :colgate:

:hug:

Aww....you're making me blush Kyle! :lol:

By the way, I have a friend that taught English in Bangkok as volunteer, he's also Filipino. He told me that at the school he taught at, the students preferred to learn English from Caucasians rather than from someone who isn't. It bothered him a bit since he speaks fluent and correct English, with an American accent (he grew up here in the US). Some of the Thai teachers also gave him the cold shoulder saying that how come he got the job teaching English when he himself is an Asian. Like being an Asian automatically cancels you from being well-versed in English and not capable of teaching it to another Asian.

^^ its just funny , how we can be racist with our own...
at least that batchmate of mine, was able to change their view,.. and educate them, in a good way...

^^ Talk about racism within your own race, when my cousin was still in high school, she told me that the Filipinos, Koreans, and Vietnamese in her school always gets into scuffles because each group is trying to put-down, out-shine, and just plain humiliate the other.

But here's irony for you, in my church, the Flips, Gooks, and Chinks all get along fine! :lol: :grouphug:

i like you QuietLife haha

oy, you guys are so sensitive about that skank nicole, hehe :lol: mind you, i like her too and all those pussycat sluts, their songs are cool even if they're almost all about sex, but then, all songs in hip hop are usually about sex, so it makes no difference, hehe

Ok, so it happened again today. The Hispanic guy who served me soup thought I was Hispanic. And the Chinese cashier thought I was Chinese.

When I was in New York, the Chinese always thought i was Hispanic. I always had a feeling they would probably give me a bigger serving if they knew I was Asian (and part Chinese), but they never did unless I told them.

^ I like Nicole's song "Stick Wit U". I even like the message. :)

^ I like her song "Stick Wit U".

yea amiga, that's a really good song, and she cried when she was in manila singing it, which was nice

wasnt one of her friends in the e channel show is filipino, the gay flambouyant guy with all pink tight shirt and glitters, every time he decorated her house. i know he's asian but dont know what, tho he looked flipino

^^ You mean Bobby Trendy? I think that's his name.

edit: i just check hes vietnamese

i don't have a imscf syndrome.

mine is imiswb syndrome. :D

Come now... I don't know much about this Pussy Cat skank, but what's the problem with listing Filipino last? At least, she listed it. :lol: Was there malice in listing it last? It's not like she was denying or was ashamed of it, right? (If she was, then that's a different story.)

On the other hand, don't you think we're being a little bit too sensitive about this whole Filipino blood thing? What if the person really just has a tiny drop of Pinoy blood? Even if it's more than just a drop, what if one's upbringing is really not "Filipino"? Should these multiracial/multi-ethnic Filipino-whatever be expected to value their Filipino-ness more than their other "blood"? Would it be better for them to not merely acknowledge their heritage, but pretend to be proud of it just to curry favor with the Filipino crowd?

Just so there's no mistake in what I'm trying to say... I'm all for being proud of one's heritage, but let's not go to the extreme where we expect others to be equally so, or that we have to shove it down other people's throats.)

(Having said that, I can't help but be pleased that Apl of BEP sings in Filipino/Tagalog. :okay: )

In response to your question of why it's significant when mixed Filipinos list Filipino last, growing up, those who listed Filipino last after Spanish, Chinese, Portuguese, etc. were often full Filipinos who were ashamed of being Filipino, or mixed Filipinos ashamed of that part of their heritage as well, so they try to emphasize their "other" ethnicities in attempt to not be recognized as something they're ashamed of. And mixed Filipinos growing up, often ashamed to be Filipino, and when you asked them they were Filipino, they said, "only a little bit" when their features are very obvious, they were the ones who came out with all of the insulting Filipino jokes about black dogs and eating black dogs most of the time. They were supporting racism, because they had no pride in their own culture. That's why. Others who grew up in the U.S. can attest to it, just do a simple Google search, you may not understand because you still live in the Philippines, and that's understandable and not your fault, but if you've experienced some of the things overseas Filipinos have had to deal with, people from Pinas might understand it better. Not all Filipinos were like this of course, but there was definitely a pattern of mixed Filipinos downplaying their Filipino ethnicity, hiding it, or trying to pass as Hawaiian, Thai, or another ethnicity.

he lives in europa, papa. on the other hand, i tell all my friends either black or white or wigger that im a proud pnoy because here when they know youre a flip, which they better recognize, or "we" represent, that youre somewhere in mid 2 upper class or vice versa, upper to mid :lol:

@IsabelPresley - QuietLife is from Geneva, Switzerland. :colgate:

In response to your question of why it's significant when mixed Filipinos list Filipino last, growing up, those who listed Filipino last after Spanish, Chinese, Portuguese, etc. were often full Filipinos who were ashamed of being Filipino, or mixed Filipinos ashamed of that part of their heritage as well, so they try to emphasize their "other" ethnicities in attempt to not be recognized as something they're ashamed of. And mixed Filipinos growing up, often ashamed to be Filipino, and when you asked them they were Filipino, they said, "only a little bit" when their features are very obvious, they were the ones who came out with all of the insulting Filipino jokes about black dogs and eating black dogs most of the time. They were supporting racism, because they had no pride in their own culture. That's why. Others who grew up in the U.S. can attest to it, just do a simple Google search, you may not understand because you still live in the Philippines, and that's understandable and not your fault, but if you've experienced some of the things overseas Filipinos have had to deal with, people from Pinas might understand it better. Not all Filipinos were like this of course, but there was definitely a pattern of mixed Filipinos downplaying their Filipino ethnicity, hiding it, or trying to pass as Hawaiian, Thai, or another ethnicity.

I attended a retreat once and there was a lady doctor there with obvious Filipina features. She wouldn't mingle with me and another Filipina doctor. She would rather mingle with whites. And she had too much hot air. Well, we just did not mind her.

anyway off topic, dentista ko't doktor ay mga pilipina, kaya laging me discount hehehe

^ on a similar note, my former dentist was a great pinoy and i had everything done for free :D

^^ Ano kapalit?!?! :D

In response to your question of why it's significant when mixed Filipinos list Filipino last, growing up, those who listed Filipino last after Spanish, Chinese, Portuguese, etc. were often full Filipinos who were ashamed of being Filipino, or mixed Filipinos ashamed of that part of their heritage as well, so they try to emphasize their "other" ethnicities in attempt to not be recognized as something they're ashamed of. And mixed Filipinos growing up, often ashamed to be Filipino, and when you asked them they were Filipino, they said, "only a little bit" when their features are very obvious, they were the ones who came out with all of the insulting Filipino jokes about black dogs and eating black dogs most of the time. They were supporting racism, because they had no pride in their own culture. That's why. Others who grew up in the U.S. can attest to it, just do a simple Google search, you may not understand because you still live in the Philippines, and that's understandable and not your fault, but if you've experienced some of the things overseas Filipinos have had to deal with, people from Pinas might understand it better. Not all Filipinos were like this of course, but there was definitely a pattern of mixed Filipinos downplaying their Filipino ethnicity, hiding it, or trying to pass as Hawaiian, Thai, or another ethnicity.I didn't realize you also posted here what you wrote in the National Unity thread... anyway, you can find my reply here if you're interested:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=12083901&postcount=80

I attended a retreat once and there was a lady doctor there with obvious Filipina features. She wouldn't mingle with me and another Filipina doctor. She would rather mingle with whites. And she had too much hot air. Well, we just did not mind her.

that's a good way to deal with it, just not mind them, hehe

just found out about this thread today. hehe. nice topic here guys. :)

Who came up with the term IMSCF Syndrome? I think it's a Hawaiian guy named Kalany Mondoy. I'm not sure though.

:ohno: Papaano kung talagang multi-cultural ka?

^^ Then you have the IMAUN Syndrome. :lol:

:ohno: Papaano kung talagang multi-cultural ka?

IMSCF is just a phenomenon of identity crisis, some says it is a syndrome that has its own symptoms but that might indicate some sort of disease, sickness or disorder. :lol:

Many disagreed on what was posted in Wikipedia that's why it was removed.
And this issue has been discussed in many forums just like some thread here, a never ending thread.
:)

The safest thing to say is that most of us Filipinos are products of different races.

A close Pinay friend told me a story about this other Pinay (Ilocana, I believe, married to an Indonesian) we know here. Apparently, she and my friend attended a technical conference, along with participants from other organizations.

During lunch break, they sat at a table with a few 'foreigners'. One of them asked this Pinay where she was from. At first, she hesitated to give an answer, but later replied, saying that she was from Asia. When pressed to give a more precise answer, she claimed to be Indonesian, rather than Filipino.

^^ Then you have the IMAUN Syndrome. :lol:

or just like that American Idol contestant who said IMUTT.

O eto, padala ng isang kaibigan.

ENRIQUE ZOBEL: half Filipino half Spanish.
HENRY SY: half Filipino half Chinese.
JUAN FLAVIER: half Filipino half Igorot.
RAUL ROCO: half Hawaiian half Polo.
JOHN OSMENA: half Filipino half Filipina.
MIKE ARROYO: half Filipino half Pork.
AI AI DELAS ALAS: half Filipino half Moon.
GMA: half...

^haha

^^ :lol: :lol:

O eto, padala ng isang kaibigan.

ENRIQUE ZOBEL: half Filipino half Spanish.
HENRY SY: half Filipino half Chinese.
JUAN FLAVIER: half Filipino half Igorot.
RAUL ROCO: half Hawaiian half Polo.
JOHN OSMENA: half Filipino half Filipina.
MIKE ARROYO: half Filipino half Pork.
AI AI DELAS ALAS: half Filipino half Moon.
GMA: half...

:lol:

I think Ai Ai is quarter moon.

^^ galing nun ah! haha.

^^ :lol:


GMA : half.... and a dot

Ohhhh, GMA is half... :lol:

While I also do not like it when Filipinos blindly praise something because it's Filipino, it's even worse when you outright degrade it because it is Filipino. I'll be the first one to say there are a lot of bad things about the Philippines(corruption/politics, poverty, and Filipinos who are ashamed of their own country, etc.), but I can also that there are a lot of good things about the country like the improving economy, the beautiful places, and the warm people. I'm willing to overlook the ugliness of it all because to me the beauty overpowers it. I'm speaking metaphorically I suppose, but it's true. I wish all the best for the country and our people. I grimace when horrible things happen to it and I rejoice when good things happen.

This is coming from someone who grew up in the US, and like some Filipino-Americans, I turned my back on the Philippines and I sometimes was ashamed of it. I'm different now. I'm embracing being Filipino and loving it. I hope those Filipinos who like to put down their own country realize that they are also putting down themselves. Defend your country, not blindly, but at least show that there's also good things about the Philippines.

Ok, I'm just rambling now but I hope my point stands.

My thoughts are the same as yours!

One way the RP can catch up now with its neighbors is not just through a better economy but having a positive mindset about ourselves. We can actually ruin our growing economy later on in a few short years if we continue to degrade ourselves through lack of understanding and crab mentality. How? Another coup attempt or major political event and the masses will spiral down to inconfidence and unproductivity all over again..

That's the hardest thing about SOME of us filipinos. Changing our mindsets. If we just focus a bit more on the good things, we will go a long way in lifting ourselves back on our feet from all those decades of political corruption.

I'm not saying we should sugar-coat all the bad things. It's just sad that the good things don't even have a chance to know what sugar is like...

saka marameng mga insecure na kapitbahay diyan, dahil deep down alam nila ang galing at kapabilidad ng pinoy , parang me ADD ba tayo. at kulang sa organisasyon. mas malake na ekonomiya naten kesa sa malasya. kahit 6-7 % growth kung continous yon magandang improvement din yon. saka mga pasaway itapon na sa kangkungan.

^^ My thoughts stand clear... :colgate:

Manila Times
Wednesday, March 28, 2007


Accentuate good news, media urged


President Arroyo on Tuesday renewed her appeal to the members of the media covering Malacañang and other government offices to look for good news instead of stories that project the country in a bad light.

The President made the appeal as she addressed the opening of the Publish Asia 2007 conference at the Manila Hotel.

“It is our message, our way of saying that we Filipinos believe in the freedom of the press. We embrace the central role of media in a free society and we believe that responsible media bridges the gap between the public and the government,” Mrs. Arroyo said

Publish Asia 2007 is considered the biggest publishing event in the Asia Pacific region. It is an annual convention that gathers together top publishing and newspaper executives to review changes in the industry, discuss their implications and explore ways to profit from new opportunities.

The President called on the journalists to serve their time well by having good news that would unite and inspire the nation.

She said that many times the government had taken exception to the media’s reports about and interpretation of her administration and policies, “but that is just part of the give and take of politics and that is just part of our job.”

She recognized the power of the media to change the nation through information and persuasion.

The President said the government was pushing the national agenda forward by generating good-paying jobs, stable prices and bringing the benefits of a strong economy to the people.

She said her administration’s effort to strengthen the eco*nomy through the expanded value-added tax (EVAT) law and the National Attrition Law is finally paying off.

The President said that just like the Publish Asia 2007 conference, which makes use of vast international and regional alliances, her administration has helped attract more investments and strengthened security alliances in bringing peace in Mindanao.
--Sam Mediavilla

saka marameng mga insecure na kapitbahay diyan, dahil deep down alam nila ang galing at kapabilidad ng pinoy , parang me ADD ba tayo. at kulang sa organisasyon. mas malake na ekonomiya naten kesa sa malasya. kahit 6-7 % growth kung continous yon magandang improvement din yon. saka mga pasaway itapon na sa kangkungan.

wala talagang mangyayari satin kung puro banagayan lang and puro politics. ang hirap kasi sa opposition, puro impeachment nalang tlga nasa isip.

nakaka lungkot isipin na yung asian neighbors natin na nasa likod lang natin noon, naunahan na tayo ngayon,

haay, ang malaysia, sila na pala ang gumagawa ng DELL computers tpos export nila. Ang dami natin kelangan ng pinas. Tourism, infrastracture, reducing poverty, etc. I dream big for the Philippines. :)

^^ We can't do anything about what other countries are doing in terms of progress. We just have to concentrate on our own progress and hopefully we will overtake or at the very least be at par with the best of them.

wala talagang mangyayari satin kung puro banagayan lang and puro politics. ang hirap kasi sa opposition, puro impeachment nalang tlga nasa isip.

nakaka lungkot isipin na yung asian neighbors natin na nasa likod lang natin noon, naunahan na tayo ngayon,

haay, ang malaysia, sila na pala ang gumagawa ng DELL computers tpos export nila. Ang dami natin kelangan ng pinas. Tourism, infrastracture, reducing poverty, etc. I dream big for the Philippines. :)

^^ Right. IF ONLY the opposition would stop all this mudslinging activities they are so fond of doing then there will be more progress in the Philippines. The Presiden is working for the country, the government is doing its job. But what does the opposition do? They do nothing but to criticize. Buti sana kung positive criticisms ang ibinabato, hindi naman. Yes, they may criticize but only up to a certain extent. If there is a good performance from the government, they should learn to appreciate and accept the fact that the President has done a good job.

^^ My thoughts stand clear... :colgate:

Manila Times
Wednesday, March 28, 2007


Accentuate good news, media urged


President Arroyo on Tuesday renewed her appeal to the members of the media covering Malacañang and other government offices to look for good news instead of stories that project the country in a bad light.

The President made the appeal as she addressed the opening of the Publish Asia 2007 conference at the Manila Hotel.

“It is our message, our way of saying that we Filipinos believe in the freedom of the press. We embrace the central role of media in a free society and we believe that responsible media bridges the gap between the public and the government,” Mrs. Arroyo said

Publish Asia 2007 is considered the biggest publishing event in the Asia Pacific region. It is an annual convention that gathers together top publishing and newspaper executives to review changes in the industry, discuss their implications and explore ways to profit from new opportunities.

The President called on the journalists to serve their time well by having good news that would unite and inspire the nation.

She said that many times the government had taken exception to the media’s reports about and interpretation of her administration and policies, “but that is just part of the give and take of politics and that is just part of our job.”

She recognized the power of the media to change the nation through information and persuasion.

The President said the government was pushing the national agenda forward by generating good-paying jobs, stable prices and bringing the benefits of a strong economy to the people.

She said her administration’s effort to strengthen the eco*nomy through the expanded value-added tax (EVAT) law and the National Attrition Law is finally paying off.

The President said that just like the Publish Asia 2007 conference, which makes use of vast international and regional alliances, her administration has helped attract more investments and strengthened security alliances in bringing peace in Mindanao.
--Sam Mediavilla

Dapat lang talaga i-accentuate ng media natin ang good news. Kumbaga, it's our resume to potential investors in our country. People from our neighbor countries do their best to promote their own homeland. How about us? Many of us put our country down in the guise of telling the truth. There are many good things that we can say about our country and we would nevertheless be telling the truth.

our media is different from our neighbours we give more importance to the
negative news...

^^ Very true. But remember it is always up to us as the viewers if we let it get to us or not.

and I just hope we can develop our oil resources in Palawan....

first of all, i object the use of oil... yes i know it helps too much on economy of a certain country but we are polluting our environment. It is killing us and it contributes a lot to global warming. We should have used that water as an alternative for the first place or the natural gas.

our media is different from our neighbours we give more importance to the
negative news...

^^ true, just for the sake of ratings!

there was this chart in the vietnam forum na vietnam will get an 8% economic growth yearly tpos there will be slow growth naman for the philippines, indonesia, malaysia ranging only in 5% til 2008 while thailand will only get 4%.

But if the president will do a good job minus mo na yung mga ingay ng opposition, we will get a 7% growth which is the target of the administration

sana mag focus sila sa exports and tourism as well as investments

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our media is different from our neighbours we give more importance to the
negative news...
Agree. That's why some of our countrymen don't want to watch news anymore because of "bad" news flooding the television. There are many accomplishments or achievements that are unnoticed. I agree to one poster who said that there should also be a focus on tourism news and other news from the provinces which are good news. The headlines are already flooded with killings, cheating in the election, etc. Everybody will die of heart attack. There should be fair and balanced news.

^^ yes, when you're already down and demoralized you don't dwell on negativity. you have to muster all your strength to focus on the positive only then can you get out of your rut.

^^ I wish more filipinos would listen and follow your thoughts...

I hope we at least reach 6-7% growth by 2010. It's looking less and less likely for this year and next. There is accelerating growth, but not at the pace the government wants it to. If we keep up the decent pace of our growth, maybe we can catch up by 2020.

Agree. That's why some of our countrymen don't want to watch news anymore because of "bad" news flooding the television. There are many accomplishments or achievements that are unnoticed. I agree to one poster who said that there should also be a focus on tourism news and other news from the provinces which are good news. The headlines are already flooded with killings, cheating in the election, etc. Everybody will die of heart attack. There should be fair and balanced news.


Apparently, the media is just using the easiest way to have an audience. Of course, it won't be that sensational if we won't see that there are children being hostaged or the market goes down or the president was embarrassed in one incident. It will just be normal if there is economic growth, stronger peso or more housing projects.

Much worse than dying of heart attack is the fact that we are training ourselves to become pessimists. If this pushes through, I wonder what would be the mentality of Filipinos in the future. I hope this will end, though.

^^ Maybe filipinos can rally a movement against negativity in the media. We are good at rallies and starting movements, so for once we can start something out in public that the media probably wouldn't cover too much of... :lol:

Apparently, the media is just using the easiest way to have an audience. Of course, it won't be that sensational if we won't see that there are children being hostaged or the market goes down or the president was embarrassed in one incident. It will just be normal if there is economic growth, stronger peso or more housing projects.

Much worse than dying of heart attack is the fact that we are training ourselves to become pessimists. If this pushes through, I wonder what would be the mentality of Filipinos in the future. I hope this will end, though.

Sabi nga ng kakilala ko, it's very chaotic in Greece - every day there are rallies. Despite this, tourism is still strong there, because the people are nationalistic and their media is careful about reporting negative news. Not like our own media which is always very eager to sensationalize and place our country in a bad light, but are nowhere to be found when there's positive news of the kind mentioned by beads.

^^ Maybe filipinos can rally a movement against negativity in the media. We are good at rallies and starting movements, so for once we can start something out in public that the media probably wouldn't cover too much of... :lol:

Tumpak. Hahaha... they won't cover it because it would place THEM in a bad light.

Of course Philippines can become great power-- highest literacy rate in souheast Asia, well-educated and English-speaking workforce, high quality products, hospitable and extremely friendly people, the best beaches of southeast Asia ( traveled there with dad 3 years back and impressed a lot ) :banana:

But first Philippine leaders must put solid visions to develop their country and their people . Then the Philippines not only can become an Asian Tiger, but an Asian " Monster " :banana:

:nuts: monster????:nuts:
lol

^^ Asian Monster... connotes something negative. Why not just use Asian Giant or Asian Dragon? That sounds better.

He is watching too much TV. digimonster. hehehe

Sabi nga ng kakilala ko, it's very chaotic in Greece - every day there are rallies. Despite this, tourism is still strong there, because the people are nationalistic and their media is careful about reporting negative news. Not like our own media which is always very eager to sensationalize and place our country in a bad light, but are nowhere to be found when there's positive news of the kind mentioned by beads.

ABS-CBN, Inquirer and Newsbreak are the most guilty among media outlets. They'd go as far as manilpulating news just to make it look negative!

ABS-CBN, Inquirer and Newsbreak are the most guilty among media outlets. They'd go as far as manilpulating news just to make it look negative!


For positive news, I go for NBN 4.

^^ Asian Monster... connotes something negative. Why not just use Asian Giant or Asian Dragon? That sounds better.

well skyprince said that:nuts:

^^ Asian Monster... connotes something negative. Why not just use Asian Giant or Asian Dragon? That sounds better.

Asian Dragon sounds more Chinese than Filipino. Of course it wouldn't bother the tsinoys.. :colgate: :lol:

Lets look at all the posibilities...

Asian Naga?
Asian Pearl?
Asian Sun?
Asian Asian?
Asian Flip?
Asian Tikbalang?

ABS-CBN, Inquirer and Newsbreak are the most guilty among media outlets. They'd go as far as manilpulating news just to make it look negative!

That's true. ABS-CBN has always had strong political overtones in their coverages. The president Eugenio Lopez Jr. was even jailed during the Marcos regime. There is a book on him which I haven't read yet. IMO GMA-7 seems to be somewhat the more politically neutral media company compared to the others, but I could be wrong...

For positive news, I go for NBN 4.

Me too, but they do the same thing ABS-CBN does to news, only in a "good news" orientation. Government kasi eh, it's still best to remain neutral.

That's true. ABS-CBN has always had strong political overtones in their coverages. The president Eugenio Lopez Jr. was even jailed during the Marcos regime. There is a book on him which I haven't read yet. IMO GMA-7 seems to be somewhat the more politically neutral media company compared to the others, but I could be wrong...

I'd rather watch GMA than ABS-CBN. Mas balanced ang GMA when it comes to news. ABS does a lot in sensationalizing moronic news reports and even does a lot best in projecting Manila's worst. Anyway, NBN is good in too much good news. But when ABS had it worst during the Wowowee and when Karen Davila did a hullabaloo in the news (not to mention Anthony Taberna's hateful morning commentaries in Magandang Umaga Pilipinas) I guess this station is best at sensationalizing everything.

I just watch ABS though for the provincial news. It's way better. But even then, the local news isn't something to be better.

Me too, but they do the same thing ABS-CBN does to news, only in a "good news" orientation. Government kasi eh, it's still best to remain neutral.


I am sick and tired of hearing bad news everyday. Sumasama pakiramdam ko pag narinig balita nila (2, 7 etc..) Parang hinihila ako papuntang impierno sa naririnig ko, gusto kung grrrrr.:lol: Tama na ang masamang balita.

Being silent doesn't mean you're biased. I just want to ask: why do you have to tell the world and in all places, the Thai forum, that Manila is the ugliest city in all of Asia? I know that we have a lot weaknesses in our country in almost all aspects but I don't think that we really have to shoot ourselves in the foot or worse, destroy our own image in front of everyone. Yes, there's is nothing wrong in saying things against our country wether it is true or not because you have the right to do so. But I just hope that you would be more responsible in the things that you would say, or shall I say, type. Our country is already down and actually has suffered a lot, you don't have to kick it further.

Moreover, why do you have to be so exaggerated in degrading our country. The statement "ugliest in Asia" is a strong statement. But how did you come up with that? I just hope that you would be more responsible next time...

haha that's a well mannered response, if a chinese said something like that in world forum he will be attacked with personal insults by other Chinese.

For positive news, I go for NBN 4 too... I like development news a lot.. Gives positives outlook...

I don't think NBN 4 is neutral, because it is a government owned station

Yap, it may not be neutral but I believe they report the real positive news...

Nothing bad with wanting to hear about good things happening to our country every once in a while. The more popular news programs have a tendency to sensationalize the news, and in the end, it becomes tiring.

noong nag stop over ako sa thailand,napansin ko na kaiba sila sa atin,the newspapers and televisions show more of the positive news.ang economic news ang importante sa kanila and it seems they are proud of this otherwise
hindi ito bibigyan ng media ng importansiya and that is one of the reasons why thailand performs better than us economically.nagrereklmo tayo kapag ang media like cnn and bbc showing negative news bagkus tayo dito ay nagpapalabas ng mas grabe pa sa kanila.

Postive news is very important.... It attracts investors to do business here if they know that this country has a lot of positives than negatives...

I am sick and tired of hearing bad news everyday. Sumasama pakiramdam ko pag narinig balita nila (2, 7 etc..) Parang hinihila ako papuntang impierno sa naririnig ko, gusto kung grrrrr.:lol: Tama na ang masamang balita.

Kaya ang mga tao lalong nawawalan ng pag-asa sa Pilipinas, because of the kind of news the media dishes out every day. The media has become a very powerful tool in influencing people's perceptions and outlook in life, and could have used its influence to be a true partner of the people in improving their lives. People need information on a broad range of issues such as family planning, livelihood opportunities, drug abuse and premarital sex. A responsible media would have responded to the challenge instead of churning out the usual deluge of scandals and, as an alternative, soap operas and variety shows, which provide but a momentary escape from the drudgery of existence.

ABS-CBN Manila should follow ABS-CBN Central Visayas and other regional stations. Kaya nga TV Patrol Central Visayas ang nanalo bilang best news program ng Catholic Mass Media Awards eh. ;)

And I don't like the way they put opposition peeps on a positive light. I heard a news awhile ago about the patutsadahan between Chavit and Jinggoy, well both are sore losers anyway but it ended as though they were implying that Jinggoy unggoy was the right one. Is ABS-CBN receiving some sort of bribe from Susan Roces or Geny Lopez just hates GMA? (the network and the president)

ABS-CBN gusto laging covered sila Petra Ceyetano, Junggoy Estrada, Cheska Escudero.

Malai-mali ata spelling ko. Sorry pun intended.

^Ganoon naman ang ABS ever since magbukas siya. They used and will use their influence via the media to pursue their (Lopezes) own selfish interests.

gma used to be in good terms with the lopezes during estradatime,something went wrong,maybe it has to do with meralco's billions of pesos they owe from the government.

Nah... @Jhaelnis, even ABS-CBN Southern Mindanao is somewhat bloody sometimes.

^ Then they should all look up to ABS-CBN Central Visayas. Napanganga nga si Tina Palma nang ang Radyo Patrol Balita (ng DYAB Cebu) ang nanalo sa recent awards (I forgot which award giving body it was) at hindi ang programa nina Korina at Ted :lol:

gma used to be in good terms with the lopezes during estradatime,something went wrong,maybe it has to do with meralco's billions of pesos they owe from the government.

^^ It is also noteworthy that Beaver Lopez is the son-in-law of Erap.

I choose to watch ANC for news when I'm at home. The news is delivered in English which makes it less moronic unlike ABS-CBN's tagalog primetime news where you can see and hear too much sensationalized news. The segment for Metro news deals with what happened in Metro Manila for the past 24 hours but what you hear is mostly "patayan". The delivery is so dramatic, nakakainis. Negative na negative yung dating. Lalo namang ayoko sa GMA7, plastic yung dating. Anyways, sana naman yung mga istasyon magbalita rin ng good news.

^^That explains it!

I choose to watch ANC for news when I'm at home. The news is delivered in English which makes it less moronic unlike ABS-CBN's tagalog primetime news where you can see and hear too much sensationalized news. The segment for Metro news deals with what happened in Metro Manila for the past 24 hours but what you hear is mostly "patayan". The delivery is so dramatic, nakakainis. Negative na negative yung dating. Lalo namang ayoko sa GMA7, plastic yung dating. Anyways, sana naman yung mga istasyon magbalita rin ng good news.

Meron naman silang good news? Example: Kung paano nagkabati si Cristy Fermin at si Starlet Bruhaha. :lol:

I'd rather watch GMA than ABS-CBN. Mas balanced ang GMA when it comes to news. ABS does a lot in sensationalizing moronic news reports and even does a lot best in projecting Manila's worst. Anyway, NBN is good in too much good news. But when ABS had it worst during the Wowowee and when Karen Davila did a hullabaloo in the news (not to mention Anthony Taberna's hateful morning commentaries in Magandang Umaga Pilipinas) I guess this station is best at sensationalizing everything.

I just watch ABS though for the provincial news. It's way better. But even then, the local news isn't something to be better.

Kala kasi ng ABS..up to now...filipinos are not matured audiences....feeling nila..spoon feeding lang ang news with their biased commentaries....stupid stupid...when I complained globe telecom to their News department...they ignored it totally...why? i just read in the news that ABSand globe just had a tie up for cellphone TV broadcasting......hay buhay.....so boycott abs news...

There's something wrong with ABS. Always negative and they seem to sensationalize anything and everything bad about the government.

so boycott abs news...:lol: Mirada de Mujer lang pinapanood ko.:lol: