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AndrewC
January 26th, 2006, 06:05 PM
SHEFFIELD
Development Summary

http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v107/114/0/279202304/n279202304_901681_3294.jpg


Re-doing this thread even as you read this... :banana:




St Pauls Tower
Under Construction | Residential | 32 and 9 floors | 101m (331ft)

SSC Thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=478951) - St Pauls Place (http://www.stpaulsplace.co.uk/home.htm)

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/thumbs/1884CityLoftsStPaulsTower_pic1.jpg (http://www.skyscrapernews.com/picturedisplay.php?ref=1884&idi=City+Lofts+St+Pauls+Tower&self=nse&selfidi=1884CityLoftsStPaulsTower_pic1.jpg&no=1) - http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs236.snc1/8322_553674467563_279202304_3418784_8214874_s.jpg (http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs236.snc1/8322_553674467563_279202304_3418784_8214874_n.jpg)

St Pauls Place | S1 | Conran and Partners | City Lofts




Chesham House
Proposed | Residential/Office | 24 floors | 76m (250ft)

SSC Thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=12466905#post12466905)

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v105/114/0/279202304/s279202304_1135626_2660.jpg (http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v105/114/0/279202304/n279202304_1135626_2660.jpg) - http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v105/114/0/279202304/s279202304_1135625_2270.jpg (http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v105/114/0/279202304/n279202304_1135625_2270.jpg) - http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v105/114/0/279202304/s279202304_1135624_1919.jpg (http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v105/114/0/279202304/n279202304_1135624_1919.jpg)

Chesham House | S1 | John McAslan + Partners | RREEF UK Ltd




1 Furnival Square
Under Construction ON HOLD | Office/Hotel | 17 floors | 68m (221ft)

SSC Thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=371000)

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/thumbs/51561FurnivalSquare_pic1.jpg (http://www.skyscrapernews.com/picturedisplay.php?ref=5156&idi=1+Furnival+Square&self=nse&selfidi=51561FurnivalSquare_pic1.jpg&no=1) - http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs236.snc1/8322_553715515303_279202304_3420382_1766182_s.jpg (http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs236.snc1/8322_553715515303_279202304_3420382_1766182_n.jpg) - http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs236.snc1/8322_553715704923_279202304_3420383_1236691_s.jpg (http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs236.snc1/8322_553715704923_279202304_3420383_1236691_n.jpg)

1 Furnival Square | S1 | Urban Innovations | McAleer & Rushe Group








Photo's and Renders Courtesy of:

Gothicform, PaulP,

AndrewC
January 26th, 2006, 06:09 PM
Right guys heres your official Sheffield Developments Thread, created by me and officially backed by the gothic man himself :D. a bit more work now and tomorrow and it should be up to date, after that any corrections, additional information or photos you think i should make/use then PM me.

jozblade
January 26th, 2006, 06:19 PM
A great review there Andrew C! Enjoyed reading through and looking at the pics!

AndrewC
January 26th, 2006, 06:22 PM
cheers, though i meant to get James to lock and stickify this to give the professional touch ;)

eighty4
January 28th, 2006, 02:11 PM
How come you state that hanover house is approved ? Cos last time i looked on skyscrapernews.com it said it was still in the pre planning stage, or is that basically what you mean when you say its marketing is to begin soon on it ?

sowwy im a little confused lol

ferge
January 28th, 2006, 11:12 PM
*Double take*..How long as this been here?! lol.

Glad to see it though, and well Done to Sheffield for embracing the building boom, some exciting projects in that list, pity for those cancelled as they're quite classy structures :( But its also good to see an extensive amount of midrises going up amongst the high proposals (originally typed approsals then, could that be coined a new term? lol...could work).

Definately a city to keep an eye on :D
Congrats!

Vertighost
January 28th, 2006, 11:52 PM
How come you state that hanover house is approved ? Cos last time i looked on skyscrapernews.com it said it was still in the pre planning stage, or is that basically what you mean when you say its marketing is to begin soon on it ?

sowwy im a little confused lol

SSN has got it wrong.

http://planning.sheffield.gov.uk/publicaccess/dc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?caseno=0303677FUL&searchtype=PROPERTY&module=P1

The Boy David
January 30th, 2006, 01:49 AM
Loving City Lofts - very cool.

Great list of developments there. As ferge said, a city to keep an eye on.

Great Stuff.

gothicform
January 30th, 2006, 03:02 AM
yes we do, thanks for pointing that out. i thought it was down as approved already.

Rita
January 31st, 2006, 03:12 PM
I purchased a 2bed apt with parking in Metis Apts in Scotland St...........anyone have any idea wat their now worth??

Bladerunner
January 31st, 2006, 07:51 PM
Prob. the same as what you paid for it. But the smart money is on modern city centre properties like those on Scotland Street rising in value as amenities develop around the new apartments. There seems to be a lot of confidence in the city at the moment. Fingers crossed.

Rob
February 3rd, 2006, 07:54 PM
Some good stuff planned for Sheffield over the past couple of years. I think Yorkshire having two major cities that will look like major cities with clusters of high rises in their centres will really boost the region and give it more pride and confidence. We seem to have been lagging behind the north west region for far too long.

Bladerunner
February 3rd, 2006, 10:17 PM
Interesting to take a glance at happenings up the M1. Bridgewater Place is under construction, and will dwarf anything else in Yorkshire - until City Lofts goes up. Looks like the two cities' traditional rivalry is to be reflected in the construction of two towers, both pretty similar in height (although Sheffield's is the better-designed).

Tuesday
February 3rd, 2006, 11:56 PM
I've hardly been to Sheffield but if these all go up, it'll have a superb skyline. Hope they're all sorted.

unners
February 5th, 2006, 11:55 PM
nice little video can be found here.
http://www.makeitinsheffield.com/living.aspx?ct_link=live

click on Sheffield fast facts

skyfitsboy
March 23rd, 2006, 01:19 AM
Has anyone seen the City Hall Fountains lit up recently, only ever seen them lit up once and that was the re-opening of the City Hall night?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/Steelcityrise/th_MVI_0886.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/y257/Steelcityrise/?action=view&current=MVI_0886.flv) http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/Steelcityrise/SheffCityHallFountains131005.gif

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/Steelcityrise/705ed8b6.jpg

Pobbie
March 23rd, 2006, 04:30 AM
Yeah, I was walking past them last Friday. They're ace. I love the way they shoot higher every now and then. The new water feature near Millenium Square is cool as well. :cool:

AndrewC
March 24th, 2006, 04:03 PM
Shall I create a 'proposed water and light features' section of the developnment summary guys? ;)

AndrewC
April 13th, 2006, 05:36 PM
Weston Tower added. Got more free time now so i'll get this page up to scratch again. If anyone wants to put a little link in their own signatures to promote the place then Sheffield will thank and salute you!

Insignia
April 26th, 2006, 08:17 PM
Nice proposals but only 46m and 43m towers U/C in all of Sheffield?

I hope Im wrong.

di Livio
April 27th, 2006, 02:21 PM
Nice proposals but only 46m and 43m towers U/C in all of Sheffield?

I hope Im wrong.


Still a startling contrast to Nottingham, eh?

Insignia
April 28th, 2006, 11:54 AM
I have to say there aren't as many planned but there are definitely more u/c.

AndrewC
April 30th, 2006, 03:13 PM
THIS THREAD IS A SUMMARY OF SHEFFIELD DEVELOPMENTS, NOT A 'MY COCK IS BIGGER THAN YOURS' BATTLEGROUND.

INSIGNIA, PLEASE, DON'T EVEN START.

Insignia
May 1st, 2006, 12:58 PM
I'm not trying to.

I was curious to know if there were only 2 highrise developments u/c but the guy from coventry started it.

AndrewC
May 1st, 2006, 01:05 PM
I don't care, the point is you can start all the useless 'city vs city' threads you want on the sheffield forum (and we'll ignore them there), just don't bring our official summary of developments thread down. If i'd have had my way this thread would have been locked after the first two posts.

hella good
May 1st, 2006, 10:38 PM
THIS THREAD IS A SUMMARY OF SHEFFIELD DEVELOPMENTS, NOT A 'MY COCK IS BIGGER THAN YOURS' BATTLEGROUND.

INSIGNIA, PLEASE, DON'T EVEN START.

i dont mind it becoming a 'cock' thread :)

but seriously this city has some brilliant developments....

Lord_Bertrum
May 2nd, 2006, 05:57 AM
Lets hope more developments will start in the next few months.

I can't wait to get back to Sheffield after 2.5 years to see what has changed firsthand.

Bladerunner
May 7th, 2006, 11:11 PM
Four of Andrew C's great pics have made it onto the world city photos site. Sorry, no direct linking is allowed but the main site is

http://www.worldcityphotos.org

Then go to the UK section

AndrewC
May 8th, 2006, 02:43 PM
Cheers Bladerunner! I can see my ascent to godlike status amongst you all is nearly complete. One problem, the 4th photo (from the tramline up at Norfolk park) isn't mine!

di Livio
May 13th, 2006, 01:53 PM
Today's Guardian.

A nation of Miners? Don't believe the myth.

True to his roots

From its town planning to its esoteric sauces, Sheffield seems to bring out the romantic in singer Richard Hawley. He takes Johnny Dee on a city tour

Saturday May 13, 2006
The Guardian


City unlimited... Richard Hawley

There used to be more trees per person in Sheffield than any other city in Europe. Today it's cranes. They're everywhere. It is a city in a state of regeneration. For people who have lived here all their lives it is an awkward period. The nightclubs, hospitals and shops that house their memories are being torn down and insurance company offices and loft apartments for the young financiers expected to work in them are being put up in their place. No one feels as concerned about it all as Richard Hawley - a 39-year-old singer with a voice so rich and relaxed it has seen him labelled the Sinatra of the north, Roy Orbison's long-lost son and Yorkshire's Johnny Cash.

Despite the fact that he's been performing since he was 14 he has only been a solo artist for the past few years. Conscious of his harelip, he preferred to remain in the background of the bands he has played guitar for (Treebound Story, the Longpigs and Pulp). The realisation that you didn't need to have an "ego the size of Saturn and all its rings" helped. So have the compliments of stars as diverse as Scott Walker, Nancy Sinatra and Peter Stringfellow. Richard Hawley is on the rise, a slow-burning word-of-mouth star in the making, but he is one of those people who make music regardless of success.
Apart from a short, ill-fated stint in HMV where listening to Kylie Minogue all day nearly killed him, he's never done anything else. "I've seen what steelworks did to my dad and what grafting all your life gets you," he says. "When he left he didn't get a golden handshake, it were more like a golden shower." Today Hawley's main concern is that the city that made him is falling apart around his cowboy boots. Will the people change too? Will men - including hairy-arsed bus drivers - still call each other "love" and "duck" if Sheffield becomes the Stuttgart of the UK (the council's dream)?

Richard Hawley's earliest memory is lying on the floor of his grandfather's Robin Reliant - "it were illegal to be sat in front" - as they drove out of city to the beautiful surrounding countryside, watching trees, sky and lamp-posts blur by. It's a sensation you'll also get from his single, Coles Corner, a nostalgic velveteen lullaby for a Sheffield long gone. Like most people in the city, Hawley's parents would meet on the corner of the Cole Brothers department store building that stood for generations. Despite the fact that it doesn't exist on a map, the store was knocked down years ago and an HSBC bank now stands in its place, couples still meet there and call it Coles Corner. Hawley loves this and the fact that "no matter what they do they'll never take it away from us".

He might sing like an angel but Richard Hawley cracks jokes in a voice alarmingly similar to Jim Bowen. He is full of maxims like "a day without a book isn't a day" and worries that his gripes make him sound like a little Englander. "It's sad though," he says. "We used to be a nation of miners and steel workers and what are we good at now? Shopping, eating pizza and wearing tracksuits."

At the pub he calls "the office", Fagan's on the outskirts of the city centre, the barmaid asks him how he stays so drainpipe slim. "No solids after nine o'clock," he tells her. "What? A.M.?" she fires back. This afternoon he's due in a studio across town to add guitar to Jarvis Cocker's debut solo album and is under heavy manners to get there on time but Hawley's reputation as a host precedes him and as a coffee turns into a half and a half turns into "a double half" it seems well-placed. Time then is of the essence as we clamber inside his manager's car for a whistle-stop tour of Hawley's Sheff.

"This sums Sheffield up," he says as we pass the huge Ponds Forge "International" Sports Centre, built like many sports facilities here for the 1991 World Student Games. "There was supposed to be an Olympic-sized swimming pool in there but they built it six feet too short. If Sheffield was a cartoon character it'd be Homer Simpson - D'oh!"

For more evidence of this phenomenon see the National Centre For Popular Music, or "National Centre For Popular Excrement" as Hawley puts it, a quartet of giant metallic stumps that cost over £15m and briefly housed rock memorabilia, including a pair of Richard's guitars and ABC's gold lamé jackets, before closing less than two years after opening. "The only people interested in that sort of thing are Japanese tourists," he says. "We don't get many of them up here."

Stop number one on the tour of Hawley's wonders of Sheffield is Castle Market, a bustling indoor Mecca for those in search of bargain veg and broken biscuits. Hawley was dragged here by his mum as a kid and if he'd been good she'd buy him a milkshake from Sharon's cafe in the centre of the market hall. With its shelves stacked with Tunnock's caramel wafers, Heinz tomato soup and Crusha milkshake syrup, Sharon's hasn't changed for decades and neither have many of the customers - Hawley recalls an elderly lady complaining that the doorstep thick toast she'd ordered was too big and the woman behind the counter telling her: "Take your teeth out, love - you should be used to sucking at your age."

Castle Market is also where a young Jarvis Cocker used to work on a wet-fish stall. Hawley and his friends would wander past and shout, "Have you got any crabs on yer cock?" Then as now whenever he has returned from touring his first thought on returning home has always been "thank fuck I'm from Sheffield". There are plenty of other downsides to touring but one in particular is currently haunting the bespectacled crooner. The fact that he is a lifelong Sheffield Wednesday supporter and signed his record deal in the goalmouth at Hillsborough appears to have escaped the attention of his in-laws. When he was last away his father-in-law bought Hawley's son Danny a Sheffield United kit.

"I came in the house and he was in full United gear. Our lass went, 'Don't just simmer.' I had to go down to the pub to calm down. I was going on and on about it and Lou, my three-year-old, came up to me and put his head in my lap and went. 'I'm Wednesday, Daddy.' Wednesday or United, it's like Harry Potter's sorting hat. I thought my boy's going to be Gryffindor and he ended up Slytherin, didn't he?"

In Hawley's list of the wonders of Sheff, Hawley Street - where he met his wife ("I saw her arse before her face") - is the Leaning Tower of Pisa. The Henderson's Relish factory, though, is the city's answer to the Taj Mahal. To the naked eye this small redbrick building off one of the city's main arterial roads looks like any other building but it is one Hawley and hundreds of other Sheffielders say they would gladly chain themselves to if there was ever any chance of it being flattened.

The reason is the black liquid produced beyond the front door. Henderson's is barely available outside Sheffield but the people of the city treat it like the elixir of life rather than something that tastes rather nice poured on mashed potato.

"I've got a photo of my family sat having Sunday dinner," says Richard as we stand outside the building. "Everything has changed, people have died, but there's one thing that has always stayed the same and that's the bottle of Henderson's on the table."

Henderson's have made one thing to the same recipe for the past 100 years. Their stoicism appeals to Hawley who, in the Frank Capra movie playing out in his head, would retire from music to save Henderson's secret recipe from falling into the hands of evil developers. With Morrisons keen on stocking it nationwide, Henderson's may have to leave their old factory and move to a bigger site. Like Richard Hawley they are caught between progress and tradition: once people get a taste for the good stuff, they can't live without it. The thought of another Coles Corner brings a tear to a grown man's eye - after a few more "double halfs".

unners
May 13th, 2006, 02:05 PM
Good article as always,well done Guardian. Is the bit about Ponds Forge pool being 6 ft to short really true?Considering it hosted the European Swimming Champs in the 90's?

muddycoffee
May 13th, 2006, 04:02 PM
Good article as always,well done Guardian. Is the bit about Ponds Forge pool being 6 ft to short really true?Considering it hosted the European Swimming Champs in the 90's?

That was sheaf valley baths. Which was built like that. Should have been ok for national events etc. but they cocked up big style with the length..

And another thing, that bastard Hawley keeps quoting my words about hendersons relish being the elixir of life, I made all that stupid stuff up in about 1998, he even quoted a paragraph of mine almost verbatim in the Big issue. I've a good mind to stamp on his fingers!

unners
May 13th, 2006, 06:09 PM
The land next to the Bristol hotel has now got blue hoarding surrounding it.Is this the start of that Glass office building that was proposed last year,i have searched the old threads for a pic but got board looking after 10 mins!

S.Yorks Capital
May 13th, 2006, 06:20 PM
Was sort of building was it? Is it the one with the bridge opposite Castle House?

unners
May 13th, 2006, 06:40 PM
Was sort of building was it? Is it the one with the bridge opposite Castle House?

Think it was glass and some kind of stilts was involved in the design. But work has definatly started on something there.

Alfie
May 14th, 2006, 03:12 AM
Its a low rise office block by Priority Sites. Unless Ive missed something its the same building as in this press release from last year Blonk Street (http://www.prioritysites.co.uk/www/press_releases.asp?i=247) . Its a decent design, thank ****. :)

unners
May 14th, 2006, 12:36 PM
Its a low rise office block by Priority Sites. Unless Ive missed something its the same building as in this press release from last year Blonk Street (http://www.prioritysites.co.uk/www/press_releases.asp?i=247) . Its a decent design, thank ****. :)

Thats the one,cheers.

lewisskinner
May 14th, 2006, 10:04 PM
Sheffield becomes the Stuttgart of the UK

Huh? What did I miss?

liveforever
May 14th, 2006, 10:34 PM
I don't understand what that means either?!! What is Stuttgart famous for? Btw was this the guy that Steve Davis interviewed while the snooker was on? People of Sheffield or sumat??

rotherowl
May 14th, 2006, 11:06 PM
Mercedes who you might of heard of possible

di Livio
May 15th, 2006, 11:12 AM
I'm not a fan of the Guardian Guides sneering Londoncentric tone. Remmeber, this is the publication that called Sheffield a 'cultural wasteland' about a year ago. They've also, at one time or another, slagged off every city in Yorkshire.

Sheffield is not some cosy proletarian city, these barstards need to get out of their vomit-coloured London brick homes a bit more. Irrational rant over.

lewisskinner
May 15th, 2006, 01:22 PM
Its a low rise office block by Priority Sites. Unless Ive missed something its the same building as in this press release from last year Blonk Street (http://www.prioritysites.co.uk/www/press_releases.asp?i=247) . Its a decent design, thank ****. :)

pretty, but we need to be concentrating on mid- and high-rise

Bladerunner
May 15th, 2006, 04:40 PM
pretty, but we need to be concentrating on mid- and high-rise

No we don't. Although the website is titled Skyscraper City, the Sheffield Metro site concentrates on all developments, high, low and mid rise, as well as related city stuff like transport, marketing, events, history etc etc.

Or do you mean that architechts and planners need to be concentrating on mid-and high-rises? That's crap too. The city needs diversity.

But I'll forgive you cos you're a Blade.

laalaa
May 15th, 2006, 11:01 PM
I'm not a fan of the Guardian Guides sneering Londoncentric tone. Remmeber, this is the publication that called Sheffield a 'cultural wasteland' about a year ago. They've also, at one time or another, slagged off every city in Yorkshire.

Sheffield is not some cosy proletarian city, these barstards need to get out of their vomit-coloured London brick homes a bit more. Irrational rant over.

Isn't the Guardian based in Manchester?

Edit: Not anymore it isn't, but I still don't consider them that London-centric compared to the other dailies.

lewisskinner
May 18th, 2006, 04:47 PM
No we don't. Although the website is titled Skyscraper City, the Sheffield Metro site concentrates on all developments, high, low and mid rise, as well as related city stuff like transport, marketing, events, history etc etc.

Or do you mean that architechts and planners need to be concentrating on mid-and high-rises? That's crap too. The city needs diversity.

But I'll forgive you cos you're a Blade.


Well, yea, I meant the city/planners as a whole. I see myself as a citizen of Sheffield, and as such I'm interested in all aspects of the city' development, including the mid-rises, street arrangements, NRQ etc.

dinp
May 22nd, 2006, 05:37 PM
Just come across this 4/5/6 storey proposal for Arundel Street (next to the planned Hallam building) - App No 06/01587/FUL

http://planningdocs.sheffield.gov.uk/WAM/doc/Application%20(Drawings)-107071.pdf;jsessionid=90CF210C8588466412C6E5C10CAAB8C4?extension=.pdf&wmTransparency=0&id=107071&wmLocation=0&location=VOLUME2&contentType=application%2Fpdf&wmName=&pageCount=15

dinp
May 23rd, 2006, 04:30 PM
In this week's list, Luminar Leisure have put in an application for an 'entertainment venue at the base of Redvers House (where Currys recently opened).

http://planningdocs.sheffield.gov.uk/WAM/doc/Application%20(Drawings)-108218.pdf;jsessionid=C6404498325461C606E7535306C12F02?extension=.pdf&wmTransparency=0&id=108218&wmLocation=0&location=VOLUME2&contentType=application%2Fpdf&wmName=&pageCount=12

Application number 06/01562/FUL

Bladerunner
May 23rd, 2006, 04:52 PM
Hmmm.... sounds like a room full of fruit machines :-)

unners
May 27th, 2006, 11:52 PM
Article from the Times Online.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,587-2120341.html

S.Yorks Capital
May 28th, 2006, 11:52 AM
An interesting article that for once paints Sheffield in a good light.

snup
May 28th, 2006, 01:48 PM
Is this true about this investor buying 139 apartments off-plan and selling them on within one week? That must relate to the second phase 8-storey building (currently UC) as that has 139 apartments.
This seems to contradict earlier reports in this forum saying that Phase II didn't sell very well.
Does anyone have any renders BTW showing how phase II will look like?

roneys_today
May 31st, 2006, 04:13 PM
any significant action on the hanover house site yet? when i left england they were taking apart the ex-mercedes garage very very slowly. has it been destroyed yet?

Buxton
May 31st, 2006, 05:06 PM
any significant action on the hanover house site yet? when i left england they were taking apart the ex-mercedes garage very very slowly. has it been destroyed yet?
Unfortunately not, They've kinda stopped again. Would like to know whats happening with this one myself though...

dinp
May 31st, 2006, 05:26 PM
Maybe there's asbestos problems or something, it shouldnt be taking this long to destroy it, it looks dreadful at the moment.

atc367squadron
May 31st, 2006, 06:12 PM
Yep work seems to have halted for the time being. Also there are little horadings that state 'new apartments coming soon' hopefully this is the 22 storey one and not another application that could have sneaked in!

Alfie
May 31st, 2006, 08:27 PM
I've always thought that this is a really weird spot to choose for a quality development - it overlooks the rundown exeter place council flats and flanks the arse end of the power transformers and a neighbouring run down factory unit. I guess you've got to start somewhere if youre dragging an area forward though. Maybe someone should just ask the agent what its going to be since they're so keen to advertise the mystery apartments.

lewisskinner
June 2nd, 2006, 06:58 PM
Well, price them cheap, students will move in, businesses will move in to cater for the students, the whole area gets a revamp and prices can rise. it's self-sustaining.

Admittedly, not many people would want to move in there now...

di Livio
June 6th, 2006, 04:41 PM
Thursday, September 29, 2005

Sheffield appoints Castlemore as partner for regeneration scheme
The on-going and successful regeneration of Sheffield is set to take another major step forward with the announcement that Sheffield City Council has appointed Castlemore Securities Limited, one of the UK's largest private property developers, as its preferred partner for the £315 million development of a dynamic new riverside quarter in Sheffield city centre to provide over 1 million sqft (93,000 sqm) of new mixed use space.


The proposals are the latest in a series of high profile regeneration projects in Sheffield and will regenerate a significant and prominent part of the city centre known as West Bar. The scheme will include 500,000 sqft (46,500 sqm) of new grade A office space, 90,000 sqft (8,400 sqm) of new retail and leisure space, including a new foodstore, bars, restaurants and shops, a 240 bed 4 or 5 star hotel and 550 new apartments of which an element will be affordable. The proposals also intend to include new facilities for the University's School of Architecture that will also be open to the public.


Adjacent to a new section of the northern relief road currently being built, the site is triangular in shape and bounded by West Bar, Corporation Street and Bridge Street on the northern edge of the city centre, the site is 7.51 acres (3.04 hectares) in size and currently comprises a number of vacant and derelict employment sites and surface level car parking.

http://www.propertyexecutive.co.uk/uploaded_images/Perp%20tower-717448.jpg

http://www.propertyexecutive.co.uk/uploaded_images/Square-742566.jpg

mistertee
June 13th, 2006, 03:06 AM
Isn't the Guardian based in Manchester?

Edit: Not anymore it isn't, but I still don't consider them that London-centric compared to the other dailies.

Welcome to 2006. It must have been based in London for about 50 years now!

Unisol
June 13th, 2006, 11:29 AM
I read in the Sheffield Telegraph that Cafe Rouge at 1 St Pauls is due to open imminently.

I look forward to seeing some table & chairs outside to take advantage of this wonderful weather and actually start to see more activity around this area.

Having said that, it didn't look too close to being finished last saturday.

Hmmmm.

adsheff
June 14th, 2006, 11:59 AM
Went past it the other day and it looked almost done, just the chairs were still stacked up. Suppose they have to get staff sorted etc. The building doesn't seem to leave a lot of scope for indoors/outdoors mix as the enormous windows don't seem to open at all. Also there is no space for external signage as far as I can tell, so blink and you'd miss it. Hopefully in 30 years when they knock it down the new one will be an improvment...

Unisol
June 14th, 2006, 12:29 PM
And just as it's due to open .......























....... the weather takes a nosedive.

Doh!

AndrewC
June 14th, 2006, 06:23 PM
Aparently the cool weather won't last though. Never thought i'd dissapointed to hear that.

unners
June 17th, 2006, 12:25 PM
Coming up before the planners on a Monday is a 10 Storey flats,student apartments and offices on Blast lane/Parkway. This replaces the 19 storey tower originally proposed for the site.

Superfly
June 17th, 2006, 11:53 PM
Oh pants! Does that mean their not building this then..? :(

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h283/Superfly_bucket/1874BroadStreetBlock1_pic1.jpg

Shame, I liked the look of that, something a bit different, I reckon it've looked good coming in to Shef. Does any1 no why it has been cancelled?

unners
June 18th, 2006, 02:12 AM
Oh pants! Does that mean their not building this then..? :(

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h283/Superfly_bucket/1874BroadStreetBlock1_pic1.jpg

Shame, I liked the look of that, something a bit different, I reckon it've looked good coming in to Shef. Does any1 no why it has been cancelled?
Its been modified so the view of Victoria quays isnt lost!

di Livio
June 27th, 2006, 06:58 PM
Went to Sheffield for the first time in two years today. It's a totally different place, there are good public spaces everywhere, and the amount and quality of development is impressive. Station and Millennium Squares are superb. I can take or leave the hotel, but the St. Pauls office block is a really positive addition to the city centre imo.

paulmat
June 27th, 2006, 07:07 PM
^^ Lol. I thought you said they were shit, and I was like WTF???

I was at the station today and I was thinking. The Spot where dyson house and sheaf house were would actually be a really good spot for a skyscraper, and I dont just mean somwhere where one could be squeezed in, it's quite a large site, and it wouldn't be blocking the view of anything or putting anything in the shade, and it would look really good with the sheaf square and the station infront.

jozblade
June 27th, 2006, 09:46 PM
^^ Lol. I thought you said they were shit, and I was like WTF???

I was at the station today and I was thinking. The Spot where dyson house and sheaf house were would actually be a really good spot for a skyscraper, and I dont just mean somwhere where one could be squeezed in, it's quite a large site, and it wouldn't be blocking the view of anything or putting anything in the shade, and it would look really good with the sheaf square and the station infront.
I agree would be a great site wouldn't it! Something really nice and tall with a quality design would be awesome!

Starslight
June 28th, 2006, 03:09 AM
They talk about it being the Sheffield gateway so they should build something people can be proud of and something that catches the visitors eye....having said that the council will probably insist they use red brick!

di Livio
June 28th, 2006, 08:16 AM
^^ Lol. I thought you said they were shit, and I was like WTF???

I said they were the s**t. But then I realised i had more class than that. :)

I'd agree with having a highrise on the Sheaf/Dyson site. It would also be nice to pull out the stops on the old NMB site.
Is there any chance of a re-clad for BT tower, it's a great building.

jozblade
June 28th, 2006, 09:48 AM
Im sure i heard a bit back that they were re-cladding BT tower....

Bladerunner
June 28th, 2006, 10:12 AM
Didn't it have a good clean fairly recently?

paulmat
June 28th, 2006, 05:03 PM
It doesn't look to dirty at the moment, so maybe it did. I think it's a great building too.

paulmat
June 30th, 2006, 10:44 PM
Hmm. anyone know anything about these?

Boutique Hotel
Height: 67m
Floors: 20

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4650BoutiqueHotel_pic1.jpg


Orio Tower
Height: 62m
Floors: 20


Roscoe Road
Height: 52m
Floors: 16

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4678RoscoeRoadBlock9_pic1.jpg

Rita
July 3rd, 2006, 03:37 PM
Anyone got any up to date pics on Metier?

paulmat
July 3rd, 2006, 04:41 PM
Theyve taken all the scaffolding down and just have the boards round the bottom.

AndrewC
July 3rd, 2006, 06:04 PM
@ PAUL.

Boutique Hotel is part of the west Bar project.

Orio Tower is effectivly a vision of a potential replacement for the grosvenor hotel, as part of the New Retail Quarter.

Roscoe Road is a student block located, as that picture shows, beside Shalesmore RDB.

They've all been mentioned somewhere in this Sheffield Section. Have a good look and you'll find them.

paulmat
July 3rd, 2006, 06:10 PM
Ahh, ok. Cheers. I'll see what i can find.

Alfie
July 4th, 2006, 12:21 AM
@ PAUL.

Boutique Hotel is part of the west Bar project.

Orio Tower is effectivly a vision of a potential replacement for the grosvenor hotel, as part of the New Retail Quarter.

Roscoe Road is a student block located, as that picture shows, beside Shalesmore RDB.

They've all been mentioned somewhere in this Sheffield Section. Have a good look and you'll find them.

I'm pretty sure that the Roscoe Road scheme is dead, it was withdrawn. Which, frankly, comes as a great relief looking at those images IMO.

di Livio
July 4th, 2006, 02:22 PM
Select english language, then go to 'projects', then 'mixed use'. Top of the page are a couple of images for this exciting looking scheme.

http://www.aedas.com/

adsheff
July 4th, 2006, 03:31 PM
Is this approved? There are construction board things up on the site, so is it already going???

Alfie
July 4th, 2006, 07:26 PM
Yes, I recall it was approved about three weeks ago along with another couple of projects (Park Square and another one I can't now remember!!).

paulmat
July 4th, 2006, 11:06 PM
I was thinking, there's so much work going on in the city centre that i'd make a map kinda thing for it.

http://mypict.eu/uploads/0/1/016fa9f260.jpg

Theres probably loads of little projects going on that arn't on there, but ah well.

Biosonic
July 6th, 2006, 05:17 PM
Are you guys aware of The Moor proposals on John McAslan & Partners' website?

www.mcaslan.co.uk - click on the Projects button and then Commerce.

At the top of the list! :)

skyfitsboy
July 7th, 2006, 01:46 AM
Are you guys aware of The Moor proposals on John McAslan & Partners' website?

www.mcaslan.co.uk - click on the Projects button and then Commerce.

At the top of the list! :)

Cheers for that quite interesting!

http://www.mcaslan.co.uk/upload/1171_TheMoor_1.gif44a25f173987c.gif (http://www.mcaslan.co.uk/frame.php?seite=projekt&proj_id=9&id=&flashversion=5) http://www.mcaslan.co.uk/upload/1171_TheMoor_3.gif44a25f174830f.gif http://www.mcaslan.co.uk/upload/1171_TheMoor_1.gif44a25f173987c.gif

John McAslan + Partners proposals for the first phase of a multi-phased redevelopment of The Moor in Sheffield are central to the regeneration of this mixed-use area at the heart of the city centre.

The site of the proposal enjoys a prominent position within the prime retail area of the city centre. The approach consolidates the required mixed-use provision into a new urban block. This will include 8,360 sqm of retail at ground and first floor levels, with 5,575 sqm of offices above and 13,900-18,600 sqm of residential units to the west, in a series of stepped towers facing Charter Row – the sites key open space.

Servicing and multilevel car parking are included to the rear of the block at ground level to minimise visibility, while negating the requirement for costly new basement construction.

paulmat
July 7th, 2006, 09:32 AM
So it's gonna be next to the debenhams site and about as tall as telephone house. Not bad.

hella good
July 7th, 2006, 09:50 AM
very good, although i feel that we are a long way away from seeing this project take shape

adsheff
July 7th, 2006, 10:15 AM
I know the Moor is a bit scruffy, but that I think is mostly down to the messy street furniture, oversized market stalls and rubbish shops. Many of the buildings down there are actually alright to look at on the street side, and quite unusual for a city in that they are all white (either stone or stone effect) and the entire street matches. I would like to see more to be done to try and improve what we have there instead of seeing more plastic clad blocks put up...

LINCS OWL
July 7th, 2006, 10:04 PM
There are some great new aerial city centre photos on

http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/gallery/v/sheffield/

:)

Unisol
July 8th, 2006, 09:18 AM
There are some great new aerial city centre photos on

http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/gallery/v/sheffield/

:)

Good find!

Just check out that density ......

http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/gallery/d/4178-1/aa01280c.jpg

Unisol
July 8th, 2006, 09:21 AM
My favourite has to be the this one - excellent angle!

http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/gallery/d/7137-2/aa04426b.jpg

muddycoffee
July 8th, 2006, 10:55 AM
The top of ponds forge looks amazing.

http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/gallery/d/7277-1/tram-bridge-aa04355b.jpg

skyfitsboy
July 8th, 2006, 02:18 PM
Heart of the City looks pretty good too :cheers:

http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/gallery/d/7213-2/aa04389b.jpg

S.Yorks Capital
July 8th, 2006, 03:05 PM
I like this one:

http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/gallery/d/7263-1/sheffield-aerial-aa04340ba.jpg

paulmat
July 8th, 2006, 04:50 PM
Good find!

Just check out that density ......

http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/gallery/d/4178-1/aa01280c.jpg

This one'll look even more dense with V1, 2 & 3, Weston Tower and the new Cop Building.

S.Yorks Capital
July 8th, 2006, 04:52 PM
What is the new Cop building. Is the Police HQ being re-built?

paulmat
July 8th, 2006, 05:06 PM
Yeah. They're moving them to somwhere else and there's gonna be something built on the site of the old one. (Not sure what yet, but i've a feeling it's gonna be a reasonable height).

snup
July 16th, 2006, 01:03 PM
There is an old post which tells you a bit more about the plans surrounding the West Bar police station, click here for link (http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=328487)

paulmat
July 16th, 2006, 01:59 PM
Anyone Know when the West bar Scheme, The Moor and The NRQ are due to start? Or anything about Weston Tower. I've not really heard anything about them for a while.

lewisskinner
July 19th, 2006, 05:26 PM
Don't like the idea of cost-cutting though. A couple of levels of basement parking would be better, and allow the density to remain...

gondola
July 22nd, 2006, 04:24 PM
I am looking to buy an apartment in Sheffield, and would like one of the new developments if possible. I dont know the city very well, but someone told me base building was ok and would hold its value well because of its location.

any other thoughts or comments on that one

cheers

dinp
July 22nd, 2006, 11:47 PM
Cheers for that quite interesting!

http://www.mcaslan.co.uk/upload/1171_TheMoor_1.gif44a25f173987c.gif (http://www.mcaslan.co.uk/frame.php?seite=projekt&proj_id=9&id=&flashversion=5) http://www.mcaslan.co.uk/upload/1171_TheMoor_3.gif44a25f174830f.gif http://www.mcaslan.co.uk/upload/1171_TheMoor_1.gif44a25f173987c.gif

John McAslan + Partners proposals for the first phase of a multi-phased redevelopment of The Moor in Sheffield are central to the regeneration of this mixed-use area at the heart of the city centre.

The site of the proposal enjoys a prominent position within the prime retail area of the city centre. The approach consolidates the required mixed-use provision into a new urban block. This will include 8,360 sqm of retail at ground and first floor levels, with 5,575 sqm of offices above and 13,900-18,600 sqm of residential units to the west, in a series of stepped towers facing Charter Row – the sites key open space.

Servicing and multilevel car parking are included to the rear of the block at ground level to minimise visibility, while negating the requirement for costly new basement construction.

This doesn't look too dissimilar from the failed Chesham House proposal a few years ago, but its good to see proposals for the site haven't fell completely flat. This is the perfect place for a cluster of mid rise buildings, with perhaps one or two highrises thrown in for good measure.

AndrewC
July 25th, 2006, 07:34 PM
Wish i was working at william hill for a few more years, i'd have the best view ever to see a scheme like that getting built on that site.

paulmat
July 26th, 2006, 01:04 PM
Anyone know about this?

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4940/1zy8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

It's down by Kelham Island.

http://planning.sheffield.gov.uk/publicaccess/dc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?caseno=0404634FUL&searchtype=WEEKLY

jozblade
July 26th, 2006, 01:14 PM
Not seen anything about it. Hope they sort next door out or it will look out of place. Not too bad design though.

arepeejee
July 26th, 2006, 09:33 PM
Not seen anything about it. Hope they sort next door out or it will look out of place. Not too bad design though.

Whaaaaaaa?? You have to be kidding right?

"Next Door" is the Kelham Island Tavern, the premier pub in the whole of the North and soon to be UK.

The place helped kick start the regeneration down there, and to "sort it out" would be a crime against Sheffield to the highest order.

paulmat
July 26th, 2006, 11:17 PM
Yeah, but the buildings next to the pub are crap.

arepeejee
July 27th, 2006, 01:48 AM
They might look crap, but IIRC thats one of the few scissor making cutlers left, we can't just go knocking down or erasing our past for nowt other than some more fancy buildings which are totally out of place for the area.

Look at the wonderful Cornwall Works development, in keeping with the style of the area and it looks good!

Plus, if t'other side go then you'll have the pub sandwiched inbetween two sets of modern buildings, then people'll call for the head of the pub.

Bboy
July 29th, 2006, 03:32 PM
I think it's important that we develop these buildings as part of our heritage and make new use of them. it's cool to have them sitting by new funky developments tho..

paulmat
July 29th, 2006, 06:02 PM
Ah. I didn't realise the building was in use still.

Alfie
July 30th, 2006, 11:26 PM
Not sure if this has featured anywhere at all yet but there hasn't been much said on here about the new apartments u/c on the corner of Napier Street and Cemetery Road near Waitrose. They're just coming together now and IMO they're looking fantastic- a very different style from what we're used to seeing round here. Sorry no pics!

AndrewC
July 31st, 2006, 04:30 PM
Alfie, whenever i see those flats (most days from the other side of waitrose) they look more unfinished than the day before, now they're slowly chucking 'cladding' on it randomly it appears. I really hope it comes together soon cos it looks weird at the moment.

BarryPseudonym
August 1st, 2006, 08:38 PM
There's plenty of new mid-rise on the planning applications website this week.
http://libplugins.sheffield.gov.uk/planning/weekly.asp

Erection of a 5 storey building to include A1/A3 use at ground floor level and 25 apartments over 72 Russell Street Sheffield S3 8RW 25 July 2006

Erection of 44 flats with basement car parking accommodation, substation and office unit Land Adjacent To 81 Hollis Croft Sheffield S1 17 July 2006

Erection of 48 student flats in a 6/10 storey building with Class A1 (Shops) and Class B1 (Business) at ground floor/mezzanine level Rockingham House Broad Lane Sheffield S1 3PP 25 July 2006

Erection of 15No. student apartments (75 bedrooms) in a 5/7storey block fronting Kenyon Street and 27No. private flats in a 4/5 storey block and a courtyard fronting Solly Street 186 Solly Street Sheffield S1 4BB 24 July 2006

Erection of 1 x 4-storey building comprising A1/A3 (Retail/Food & Drink) at basement, ground & first floor with 29 residential units Site Of 65-69 Division Street Sheffield 24 July 2006

Erection of 62 apartments in a four storey block with associated car parking and landscaping Queens Road Car Sales 568 Queens Road Sheffield S2 4DU 18 July 2006

Erection of 4/5/6 storey mixed use development including 144 apartments, offices (B1 Use) with associated car parking and access works Renown Works 6 Sylvester Street + 82 - 84 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 3RA 25 July 2006

Erection of 7 storey building for mixed use developement (Phase 1) including 40 residential units over offices (B1 Use) and associated basement car parking Charter Works 20 Hodgson Street Sheffield S3 7WQ

macc
August 3rd, 2006, 10:52 AM
Hello Sheffield,

I can't find a suitable thread for this so I'll have to put it here. You need a University thread and a sticky skybar thread.

I used to go to Sheffield Hallam Uni - 97-99. The first year was the best of my life. I miss the place and I get all tingly whenever I think about Sheffield or pull into the train station. I could never move back there though as my mates are now all gone and it would shatter my memories of the place. It great to see the city getting in on the building boom band wagon too.

Anyway I just read the Hallam Uni has moved to that music museum with the four spinny things on it. I used to love the union bar. the clubs (stardust and sheff 1 etc) weren't the best but to say it had competetion from other clubs was the mother of all understatements. I nipped into the union bar a few years ago see was disgusted to she they had ripped out all the booths and replaced them with stupid metal tables similar to what you'd get in a cheap cafe. A fantastic bar, ruined. That pissed me off.

So whats the new place like? What's happened to the old uinion building?

unners
August 3rd, 2006, 11:54 AM
Hello Sheffield,

I can't find a suitable thread for this so I'll have to put it here. You need a University thread and a sticky skybar thread.

I used to go to Sheffield Hallam Uni - 97-99. The first year was the best of my life. I miss the place and I get all tingly whenever I think about Sheffield or pull into the train station. I could never move back there though as my mates are now all gone and it would shatter my memories of the place. It great to see the city getting in on the building boom band wagon too.

Anyway I just read the Hallam Uni has moved to that music museum with the four spinny things on it. I used to love the union bar. the clubs (stardust and sheff 1 etc) weren't the best but to say it had competetion from other clubs was the mother of all understatements. I nipped into the union bar a few years ago see was disgusted to she they had ripped out all the booths and replaced them with stupid metal tables similar to what you'd get in a cheap cafe. A fantastic bar, ruined. That pissed me off.

So whats the new place like? What's happened to the old uinion building?

The old building had been debadged and is awaiting the bull dozer,only been in the new place once the bar is what you could say a bit on the small side but quite stylish for a uni bar and still cheap.

Biosonic
August 3rd, 2006, 02:04 PM
Not sure where to put this but it may be of interest.

From Architect's Journal:

Rising Irish stars O’Donnell + Tuomey have picked up the commission to design a new John Lewis store for Sheffield.

The firm, which was Stirling-shortlisted for its Lewis Glucksman Gallery in Cork, will design the new store at the heart of a massive retail development for Hammersons.

http://www.odonnell-tuomey.ie/

They look decent architects - they like their angles :)

adsheff
August 3rd, 2006, 04:05 PM
Hmm, have a look at their 'social' housing in Galbally. Not too hot for 2006 !

Alfie
August 3rd, 2006, 11:32 PM
Not sure where to put this but it may be of interest.

From Architect's Journal:



http://www.odonnell-tuomey.ie/

They look decent architects - they like their angles :)

Indeed:
INTERNATIONAL AWARD WINNERS
APPOINTED TO FLAGSHIP SHEFFIELD PROJECT

Hammerson has appointed an award-winning, internationally acclaimed firm of architects to design the prestigious new John Lewis department store in Sheffield.

Sheffield City Council, Sheffield One and John Lewis were also involved in selecting O'Donnell + Tuomey, following an extensive design competition. As winners of over 40 international awards, the 12-strong firm has developed a reputation for innovation and diversity in 18 years of practice from its Dublin base. It was shortlisted for the 2005 RIBA Stirling Prize - also known as the ‘Oscar of British Architecture' - for its design of the Lewis Glucksman Gallery in Cork.

Set to become a focal point of the city centre New Retail Quarter, the 260,000 square feet John Lewis department store will be between Wellington Street and Carver Street, the location of the current fire station. An outline planning application for the whole scheme, including the John Lewis shop, was submitted in October 2005 and is due to be determined shortly by the City Council. Construction is scheduled to begin in 2008. O'Donnell + Tuomey will work on the detailed design for the building with Hammerson and John Lewis.

This is the first in a series of appointments for individual architects who will work on different elements of the New Retail Quarter scheme and reaffirms Hammerson's commitment from the outset to delivering a varied and diverse urban environment.

Carolyn Kenney, assistant director, Hammerson, who is leading the project, said: “In a rapidly changing retail market, Cities can no longer rely on shops alone to keep their centres vibrant and attractive. They must offer a much broader experience and establish a unique identity to differentiate themselves from the competition. Hammerson is committed to this agenda and is investing in quality architecture to create stimulating places and environments that will keep people coming back.”

Ann Humphries, director of retail development, John Lewis Partnership, said: “Hammerson has demonstrated an understanding of our brand values which is reflected in the exciting design concept and the practice selected. We are confident that the new building will provide a high quality shopping environment for all our customers and be a new, landmark shop for Sheffield.”

Councillor Robert MacDonald, cabinet member for economic regeneration, culture and planning, Sheffield City Council, said: “This is an important step towards the realisation of the City's vision for a distinctive new retail and leisure heart for the city centre.”

Sheila O'Donnell, partner, O'Donnell + Tuomey, said: “This project is an interesting departure for our practice. We are delighted to have the opportunity to work with Hammerson and John Lewis on this exciting project in Sheffield.


Courtesy of Hammerson (http://www.sheffieldnrq.co.uk/news_story.asp?i=9)

adsheff
August 4th, 2006, 02:20 PM
Does that John Lewis construction date seem to get more and more into the future every time we see it??
Does anyone know what's happening at Shalesmoor at that Cornish Place thing?? They built the new flats next to the A61 which are now pretty much finished, but the site next door to that with the crane have just stopped. They build the foundations but if you look now they are all waterlogged, the equipment (including the crane) is all wrapped up and it doesn't look like anyone's been there for months..

roneys_today
August 4th, 2006, 02:29 PM
and what exactly is happening to the fire station? i heard it was moving down to the back of decathlon but they'll have to get moving soon if they want to start john lewis in 2008.

paulmat
August 4th, 2006, 09:44 PM
2008!!!! I thought work on phase 1 was supposed to start this year!!!

paulmat
August 8th, 2006, 04:31 PM
I recon the first post on this thread needs updating. The status needs changing on a few things, and some new ones need adding, such as the NRQ, Citygate etc.

Alfie
August 8th, 2006, 05:57 PM
I think I must have missed something - what and where is Citygate??

paulmat
August 8th, 2006, 07:01 PM
This one (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=9526443&postcount=66). It's just been approved, on St. Mary's Gate, infront of the Department for Work and Pensions.

Alfie
August 9th, 2006, 12:06 AM
oh, ye - seen that one, just didn't know that was its name.
cheers!
PS looks good but I'll believe it when they start it. How many schemes have bitten the dust around there, the cursed corner: Cala Eclipse, Hannover House, the Crescent, the hotel with no name etc.

Alfie
August 9th, 2006, 12:16 AM
Property Sector Focuses on Sheffield
11/08/2006



Leading experts within the UK property market are firmly targeting Sheffield as a hot prospect following the return of speculative developments to the city: the latest opinion polls and tables rank the city 12th in the league of European office market strength and the city is rated Number One for contact centres.

Following these rankings influential media such as Estates Gazette and the FT have run articles rating the city highly.

Sheffield First for Investment’s property team has seen a rise in enquiries and the national property media are starting to feature Sheffield more in their reviews of ‘happening places’.

Assistant Investment Manager Elisa Knight-Smedley says: “The Velocity development is one of the catalyst sites that have sparked the surge in interest. The first phase was let very quickly and a second, larger phase of speculative construction is underway.

“Now we have major developments all around the city centre, with substantial and high profile new office buildings either already underway or planned for Central Riverside, Tenter Street, Riverside Exchange, The Square Castlegate, St Paul’s Place and elsewhere within the S1 postcode.

“These are already drawing in a diverse mix of organisations and companies looking to make Sheffield their home.”

The excitement in the city is being picked up by media and researchers across the country.

Estates Gazette recently ran a feature on Sheffield hailing the arrival of big-hitting developers and investors.

In the recent Financial Times Foreign Direct Investment awards Sheffield was commended for its investment promotion, with judges saying Sheffield's "excellent agency is one to watch for the future".

Market research specialists OMIS have also recently ranked Sheffield as the Number One location for a contact centre.

Sheffield First for Investment chief executive Phil Roberts says: “Previously our lack of speculative office space has held us back, but now that is changing and we are very positive about the future.

“The quality and the volume are right and we know we can offer the best office space in the country at the right price. It is very encouraging.”

Source: Sheffield First for Investment e-newsletter 11/08/06

from Sheffield first for investment (http://www.makeitinsheffield.com/news.aspx)

S.Yorks Capital
August 9th, 2006, 11:48 AM
Thats good news. I think Sheffield deserves a good reputation and is a like a phoenix rising from the ashes.

paulmat
August 9th, 2006, 12:17 PM
That is a good article. It shows that people are discovering what a brilliant place Sheffield is.

OranjeS3
August 10th, 2006, 05:20 PM
There are plans for a total redevelopment of Sorby House in Burngreave, is this near the proposed spital tower, anyone know?

Looks great, but again it would be nice to see quality like this in the city centre. Will try and get a photo on.

OranjeS3
August 10th, 2006, 05:33 PM
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h317/DeLaSalleCricketClub/b270c747.jpg

paulmat
August 10th, 2006, 06:07 PM
Wow. That looks amazing. Not sure which is sorby house though.

jozblade
August 10th, 2006, 06:28 PM
Wow, that looks awesome!

OranjeS3
August 10th, 2006, 09:21 PM
Done a bit of searching and if you know spital hill/burngreave, its currently a row of shops with a bookies just as you go up spital hill on the right, where it flattens opposite the mangla curry house. This is a massive improvement, looks like an area on the up!

Bboy
August 11th, 2006, 10:47 AM
Wow, that look great it's good for the pittsmoor area as needs some improvement but can't help thinking would be better in the city centre as it's better than some smaller buildings planned for the centre. Love it tho

OranjeS3
August 11th, 2006, 06:40 PM
Further development around London rd student accomodation, incorporating the pagoda style corner building previously the music factory and bed among other things. Although will it cover up the 'Off The Shelf' poem by Jarvis Cocker? Seems a bit daft

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h317/DeLaSalleCricketClub/media.jpg

jozblade
August 11th, 2006, 08:37 PM
Like the render for the development. Looks good!

Bladerunner
August 11th, 2006, 08:37 PM
That doesn't work - it's a mix of two very different styles. Is the old club facade listed?

muddycoffee
August 11th, 2006, 08:54 PM
Further development around London rd student accomodation, incorporating the pagoda style corner building previously the music factory and bed among other things. Although will it cover up the 'Off The Shelf' poem by Jarvis Cocker? Seems a bit daft

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h317/DeLaSalleCricketClub/media.jpg
I like the way they are trying to incorporate the Landsdowne picture palace, Marks and Spencer, Locarno Ballroom, Mecca Dance hall, Tiffany's Night Club, Palais, Music Factory, Club Generation, Bed facade into the new development, but I am disspointed that it is shown with white paint. Don't they know that the original bricks underneath all those 17 layers of paint is/was beautiful terrocotta. And the corner is a chinese pagoda, if they would only take the doors off it and open it out like a shelter again it would be one of the most stunning frontages in the city.
They even filmed top of the pops there in the 1970's !

di Livio
August 13th, 2006, 01:08 PM
http://www.rocknroll.force9.co.uk/cinemas/palais.jpg

I heard Bed was demolished because the sewerage system couldn't cope, so rather than replace the sewers they just moved out. Has Bed relocated or have the managers bought a new concern or something?

muddycoffee
August 13th, 2006, 02:00 PM
http://www.rocknroll.force9.co.uk/cinemas/palais.jpg

I heard Bed was demolished because the sewerage system couldn't cope, so rather than replace the sewers they just moved out. Has Bed relocated or have the managers bought a new concern or something?

That's the general story. It seems that rebuilding the whole building would have been cheaper than putting new sewers in.

I think Bed fizzled out and the club scene is much smaller in the city at the moment. They still have Gatecrasher1 (republic building)

By the way, well done for finding that picture on my Lost Cinemas of sheffield website.. :)

S.Yorks Capital
August 14th, 2006, 02:30 PM
The New Retail Quarter, Park Hill flat's Urban Splash re-furbishment and the National Miners Union building re-development all go before the planning commitee today for approval. Also I don't mean to get anyone excited and I could be wrong but I was sure I saw two small diggers on the spot where St. Pauls Tower is meant to be. Could construction finally be starting?

jozblade
August 14th, 2006, 02:39 PM
Great stuff.

What is the National Miners Union building project about? any pics??

Unisol
August 14th, 2006, 02:42 PM
That's the general story. It seems that rebuilding the whole building would have been cheaper than putting new sewers in.

I think Bed fizzled out and the club scene is much smaller in the city at the moment. They still have Gatecrasher1 (republic building)

By the way, well done for finding that picture on my Lost Cinemas of sheffield website.. :)

BED didn't fizzle out. It was at the height of it's popularity when it closed. Probably one of the best clubs in the land, especially for the DJ lineups.

Can't understand why they didn't relocate. Yes, club culture has died off a lot but Bed succeeded in attracting a slightly older, more discerning crowd i.e. people that had grown up through the club culture.

Gatecrasher1 is an embarassment to the city now. At least Bed had some credibility.

S.Yorks Capital
August 14th, 2006, 02:43 PM
The NUM project has changed I think so I could'nt tell you.

Lord_Bertrum
August 17th, 2006, 08:24 AM
BED didn't fizzle out. It was at the height of it's popularity when it closed. Probably one of the best clubs in the land, especially for the DJ lineups.

Can't understand why they didn't relocate. Yes, club culture has died off a lot but Bed succeeded in attracting a slightly older, more discerning crowd i.e. people that had grown up through the club culture.

Gatecrasher1 is an embarassment to the city now. At least Bed had some credibility.

It's true, Bed was consistently pulling in the punters right up until it's "refurbishment" as I remember it being billed at the time. Well I guess in a way it was refurbish, just not how I was expecting it. What was the venue called before it was called Club Generation (just before being called Bed)?

jozblade
August 17th, 2006, 01:16 PM
How did they do in with the planning applications?

Unisol
August 17th, 2006, 02:04 PM
It's true, Bed was consistently pulling in the punters right up until it's "refurbishment" as I remember it being billed at the time. Well I guess in a way it was refurbish, just not how I was expecting it. What was the venue called before it was called Club Generation (just before being called Bed)?

Music Factory.

di Livio
August 17th, 2006, 03:01 PM
By the way, well done for finding that picture on my Lost Cinemas of sheffield website.. :)

It's a great site. The city used to be swarming with attractive, archietcurally impressive cinemas, then TV happened. But there are still some real gems like the Abbeydale.

According to the Independent, Sheffield is one of the hippest student locations in the country. (I'd agree with Dave White's comments wholeheartedly.)

SHEFFIELD

Thanks to The Full Monty, many people still think Sheffield is a grim skeleton town populated by nude steelworkers, but this is increasingly far from the truth. The UK's fourth largest city is a) as far from the coast as it's possible to get in England, b) not at all bothered about that, and c) one of the most happening, exciting and all-round pant-moistening places to be a student in the UK. The relics of decaying industry have been relegated to the outskirts and the city centre is so much fun-on-a-stick that no one even cares that much about the leviathan Meadowhall shopping centre anymore. Boozeries range from soul-eating chains to crumbly locals, and Sheffield students' union has its fingers in more pies than a clumsy baker, most of them lavishly flavoured with student entertainment. Its club nights fill five nights a week, invariably sell out and cover all tastes in tunes from the brazenly naff Pop Tarts to cutting-edge indie at The Fuzz Club. It's also fiercely political, firing up campaigns left, right and... well, just left, actually, and completely overshadowing its larger, poorer neighbour, Sheffield Hallam. Fewer cities have better town/gown relations than this, and students and locals frequently mingle on community projects (including the "let's all get together as a community and drink the bar dry" kind).

Best for: Unionists
Cost of a pint: £1.80
Cost of accommodation: £53/pw
Nightlife: ****
Music scene: *****
Union shenanigans: *****
Pulling potential: Fair's fair, it's half and half.
Notable Alumni (Sheffield): David Blunkett MP; Joanne Harris; Eddie Izzard; Linda Smith
Notable Alumni (Sheffield Hallam): Nick Park

"Sheffield is the ultimate student town. On the one hand it's a big city with lots going on. On the other, the locals are really friendly, and it's so easy to get out into the beautiful Peak District. And as if that wasn't enough, it's one of the cheapest places in the UK to be a student."
Dave White, President of the Sheffield University students' union

Alfie
August 17th, 2006, 03:26 PM
How did they do in with the planning applications?

thats a very good question; I looked on the planning site y'day and not a dicky about any of the three (Carver St, NRQ, Parkhill). Maybe its been put off to next week cos everyone thought, **** it, it's August and we're all on holiday.

paulmat
August 17th, 2006, 03:27 PM
Yeah. I had a look at that cinema page, and it's quite interesting. There were quite a few cinemas in barkers pool wern't there.

paulmat
August 17th, 2006, 03:34 PM
thats a very good question; I looked on the planning site y'day and not a dicky about any of the three (Carver St, NRQ, Parkhill). Maybe its been put off to next week cos everyone thought, **** it, it's August and we're all on holiday.

Hmm. I thought i'd seen somewhere that they don't go up infront of the planners until monday, the 21st. But I can't find anything about it now.

Starslight
August 18th, 2006, 03:05 AM
According to the Independent, Sheffield is one of the hippest student locations in the country.

Being an ex-student based in Sheffield myself I would have to say they are spot on and long may it continue!

AndrewC
August 18th, 2006, 05:17 PM
walking down eccy road you often see the odd 'bohemia' type, i saw an old 50's greaser guy walking down the street, only he was about 60 now and probably dressed in denim and had a slicked back quiff when he was young.

Bladerunner
August 18th, 2006, 06:38 PM
When I was very young, in the 70's I remember that the 'greasy ted' look was still popular with older guys in their 40's and 50's. They all used to smoke and drink too much too. A bit like '8 Ace' from Viz.

muddycoffee
August 19th, 2006, 10:22 AM
Yeah. I had a look at that cinema page, and it's quite interesting. There were quite a few cinemas in barkers pool wern't there.
Yes but not neccesarily all at the same time.

If you include the films which were shown at the albert hall ( where cole brothers ) now stands

There was cinema House,
Regent aka Gaumont, Later replaced by the odeon now kingdom,
and possibly the Albert Hall ?

It is very interesting to note some of the districts which had several cinemas.

Hillsborough ...
1) Hillsbro park cinema ( now netto )
2) Kinema ( now car park )
3) Phoenix ( now Maplins )

Heeley..
1) Heeley Electric palace ( now ponsfords extension )
2) Heeley Green aka the Tudor ( recently burned down potter's snooker )
3) Heeley Coliseum ( now machine mart )

Attercliffe
1) Adelphi ( still standing )
2) Attercliffee Palace, was on attercliffe road
3) The Pavillion was on attercliffe common
4) Theatre royal was on staniforth road

muddycoffee
August 19th, 2006, 10:48 AM
When I was very young, in the 70's I remember that the 'greasy ted' look was still popular with older guys in their 40's and 50's. They all used to smoke and drink too much too. A bit like '8 Ace' from Viz.
Like a boozy elvis!

I know of one of those, in crookes. He knows everything there is to know about elvis presley, and claims to have been born on the same day. He looks quite good to say he is supposed to be in his 70s though.

Its the same thing with older ladies, who still do their makeup the same as when they were young. You used to see elderly ladies who had plucked off their eyebrows and had to draw them on every day, and because they were less steady it looked a right wonky mess.

I have always had a theory that people generally tend to wear the same kind of clothes throughout all their lives,

As you have the greasers still around as pensioners,
You have people in their 90s who still potter around doing the gardening in an old suit and tie
you have your white haired pony tailed rock dudes in their 50s and 60s,
and some people will always wear tshirts with rock bands on.

so this latest generation are going to be in some right trouble falling over their baggy jeans which are half way down their arses and trainers with no laces when they are 78 years old.

paulmat
August 21st, 2006, 03:04 PM
Hmm. I thought i'd seen somewhere that they don't go up infront of the planners until monday, the 21st. But I can't find anything about it now.

I've just Seen on Look North (Surprisingly they had an article about it), it is today that these go infront of the city planners.

They didn't show anything about the NUM building though. Anyone know what the plans are?

Starslight
August 21st, 2006, 08:43 PM
Some good news at last.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/5270054.stm


Seems the council has approved both Park Hill redevlopment and the NRQ. Hope it all starts gathering pace soon!!!!!

paulmat
August 24th, 2006, 04:50 PM
Bit off topic this, but..

http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=9769004

Leeds people make me laugh :-P

Bladerunner
August 28th, 2006, 12:33 PM
Bit off topic this, but..

http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=9769004

Leeds people make me laugh :-P

If people from Sheffield are called Sheffielders, what do you call people from Leeds?

Tw*ts.

:-)

LINCS OWL
August 28th, 2006, 03:17 PM
Childish. Just be thankful you aren't from Norfolk.

AndrewC
September 1st, 2006, 01:53 PM
Childish. Just be thankful you aren't from Norfolk.


Whys that?

Bladerunner
September 1st, 2006, 02:08 PM
Cos you'd be called a Norfer?

LINCS OWL
September 1st, 2006, 06:25 PM
NORFUCKER.....Nincompoops. I believe that to be the correct term.

soupçon
September 2nd, 2006, 03:35 AM
Sorry to talk about buildings n stuff, but there was a piece in the telegraph about a 6 storey block of flats on West Street. I think it'll be between the Varsity and Royal Plaza - anyone know owt?

Irwell
September 10th, 2006, 01:10 AM
We're trying to arrange a UK-wide meetup if anyone is interested. No date or venue has been set yet so feel free to bounce some ideas around!

The thread is here... (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=392856)

paulmat
September 10th, 2006, 04:26 PM
There's a new application for some flats by bramall lane. They loor really nice and smart actually. Here's the Plans:

http://planningdocs.sheffield.gov.uk/WAM/doc/Application%20(Drawings)-132960.pdf?extension=.pdf&wmTransparency=0&id=132960&wmLocation=0&location=Volume3&contentType=application%2Fpdf&wmName=&pageCount=16

It's planning application 06/03371/LBC.

hella good
September 10th, 2006, 11:56 PM
cant find the thread for this:

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j217/hellagood88/RedBrick.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j217/hellagood88/DSCF0038.jpg

Alfie
September 11th, 2006, 04:04 PM
This made me smile on BBC News (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/5324458.stm)

jozblade
September 11th, 2006, 04:48 PM
cant find the thread for this:

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j217/hellagood88/RedBrick.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j217/hellagood88/DSCF0038.jpg
Where is that????

Starslight
September 11th, 2006, 05:13 PM
This made me smile on BBC News (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/5324458.stm)

Made me smile as well, good article I think, well balanced.

paulmat
September 11th, 2006, 06:16 PM
^^ I like the article, but some of the comment's are a bit odd:

Visit Sheffield - you'll see a dozen no-go estates, neighbourhoods where crime goes totally unrecorded due to fear of retaliation. A nice City centre, surrounded by miles of dying industry and a generation void of any skills, with outlooks on life as grey as the city's skyline.

I have lived in a couple of the northern cities, Sheffield being one. It's the only city I felt truly scared in. I witnessed car robberies, assaults, vandalism, car theft, break-ins, and, in one case, murder.

I feel this re-generation is a good thing. Although, how long will it take before it falls back into the same old rut?

Not sure where in Sheffield these guys went. I mean there's some council estates, but not many. Defiantely not more than some other City's, and I'm sure none where there's 'so much crime it goes unrecorded' or where people are constantly getting mugged and murdered. And where's all this 'dying industry'? I mean there's some empty factories, but these are mostly getting redeveloped. Maybe these people accidently went to those most famous Sheffield suburbs of Manchester or Nottingham? I've lived in Sheffield all my life, and it's nowhere near as scary as say Manchester.

hella good
September 11th, 2006, 07:40 PM
Where is that????

on the street inbetween stokes tiles/salvation army building and west one.

Starslight
September 12th, 2006, 01:18 AM
^^
Not sure where in Sheffield these guys went. I mean there's some council estates, but not many. Defiantely not more than some other City's, and I'm sure none where there's 'so much crime it goes unrecorded' or where people are constantly getting mugged and murdered. And where's all this 'dying industry'? I mean there's some empty factories, but these are mostly getting redeveloped. Maybe these people accidently went to those most famous Sheffield suburbs of Manchester or Nottingham? I've lived in Sheffield all my life, and it's nowhere near as scary as say Manchester.


Agree with you on that. Looking at all those crimes he witnessed I have a feeling he was the one doing it...I mean I lived in Sheffield for over 3 years, hopefully returning soon, but never once saw anything like that.

lewisskinner
September 12th, 2006, 03:23 PM
I've lived here for the last 4 years as a student, and have been mugged once and attacked by a pub landlord, but both in the same place (same street indeed!) I've had more hassle in the Union bar and clubs than walking about the city centre. Yes, Park Hill, Southey and Broomhall are a bit dodgy, but I'd hardly say "no go areas" or that "crime is not reported for fear of reprisals". ridiculous!

unners
September 13th, 2006, 01:12 AM
Has anybody got any info on the 4 storey extention to the adsetts Building that was approved last week?

atc367squadron
September 13th, 2006, 10:14 AM
It's actually a 3 storey extension. Here's some info from the Sheffield Hallam University's Intranet.

A major extension and re-ordering works are planned for Adsetts Building over the next few years.

Phase 1 will commence in summer 2006 with significant upgrades to an area of Level 4, English and History collections will move to the Adsetts Centre from Collegiate Crescent, with most material going to Level 6, and the collections currently on Level 6 going to the redeveloped area on Level 4.

Phase 2 includes the building of an extension to the Adsetts Building . The proposed building is 3 storeys high, and will include a book stack and reader spaces to accommodate Faculty moves from Psalter Lane and Collegiate Crescent .

At present discussions are underway with Sheffield City Council planners regarding this project, with a plan to start on site December 2006 and be complete by December 2007.

Further phases of alteration within the Adsetts Building are planned throughout the following 2 years to accommodate additional material from Psalter Lane and the Faculty of Development and Society.

Not much at the moment but i'd expect some images in the next month or so which i will post.

Alfie
September 13th, 2006, 02:16 PM
I recall that there are already PDFs on the planning website for this extension, sorry Ive lost the link. I don't think it will do much to enhance a building which IMO already looks like it's partially collapsed in an earthquake and needs a few bulldozers to the finish the job. The building doesnt look great from any angle and is a poor use of the site - the rapid tapering means that the building floor space is crap in relation to the the size of the ground plot it takes up. Which presumably is why they have now decided to bolt on extra floorspace where the building tapers. How much are designers paid to come up with this sort of stuff......?? :bash:

Alfie
September 13th, 2006, 02:20 PM
And I will now mark my 100th post by acknowledging that virtually everything I've posted in recent times has been fiercly critical of everything and I need to take a chill pill. :)

adsheff
September 13th, 2006, 02:42 PM
Personally I think the Adsetts centre is an asset to a city where cube-shaped blocks are the norm. Nice to have something break up the skyline even if it is impractical. There is a definate rivalry between the two Universities in Sheffield at the minute, particularly in relation to their market image. Sheff Uni is going all out with new buildings and masterplans in a bid to look more modern than Hallam. Presumambly this is the response. Wish Hallam would tidy the area around NCPM though.

atc367squadron
September 13th, 2006, 03:53 PM
There's a few more Sheffield Hallam University Developments in the pipeline. I will post some pics when i have time.

paulmat
September 26th, 2006, 12:22 AM
There's a load of Masterplans for city development here (http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/in-your-area/planning-and-city-development/planning-documents/background-reports). Some of them are quite interesting to read.

unners
October 12th, 2006, 03:12 PM
A bit of info on the £48 million redevolopment of Meadowhall.

http://www.sheffieldtoday.net/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=58&ArticleID=1819148

Its a shame that in the section where it says it wants more high profile shops it goes on to say a larger Next and new Primark. I was hoping Selfriges but never mind!

atc367squadron
October 12th, 2006, 03:32 PM
A bit of info on the £48 million redevolopment of Meadowhall.

http://www.sheffieldtoday.net/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=58&ArticleID=1819148

Its a shame that in the section where it says it wants more high profile shops it goes on to say a larger Next and new Primark. I was hoping Selfriges but never mind!


Wtf, last i heard the council had put a stop to Meadowhall expanding. Don't get me wrong i do shop there but it's already killed off Rotherham and Sheffield city/town centre's. Why are Meadowhall able to do this?

paulmat
October 13th, 2006, 12:08 AM
Hmm. I think Meadowhall needs to do this to stay competative with the city centre/other shopping centres. Pretty much every other shopping centre in the UK is extending at the moment.

Aslong as the NRQ/Moor Redevelopment go ahead, I don't think we need to worry about the centre going back to how it was. There's also projects like St. Pauls Place and Leopold Square, which are making good progress, which will make the centre better. I mean, Manchester manages to support a brilliant city centre (for retail at least :-P) and have a large out of town shopping centre.

lewisskinner
October 14th, 2006, 02:56 PM
I think this will be OK. It can compliment the NRQ well, and so long as both draw new people into the city, I can't see this being a problem.

Has anyone got a map of the proposals? I head at one point that they were going to try to make it into one big circle, by linking High Street to Park Lane.

unners
October 14th, 2006, 03:28 PM
http://www.citygate-s1.com/

The car park where this is going to be built closes on the 30th Oct so looks like this may be getting built.

Unisol
October 14th, 2006, 07:10 PM
http://www.citygate-s1.com/

The car park where this is going to be built closes on the 30th Oct so looks like this may be getting built.

A little more information here (http://www.property-week.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=3071855)

I like this one!

Starslight
October 16th, 2006, 12:31 AM
Maybe I've gone crazy but I can't find the Spital tower thread. Just wondering if anyone knew what was going on with that (both the thread and the building)?

Starslight
October 16th, 2006, 12:37 AM
Double post. oops :dunno:

liveforever
October 16th, 2006, 01:20 AM
am I being really thick or does the above site describe the new Moorfoot building as being both 8 and 14 storeys?

paulmat
October 16th, 2006, 06:06 PM
Maybe I've gone crazy but I can't find the Spital tower thread. Just wondering if anyone knew what was going on with that (both the thread and the building)?

Have you set it to view post's since the start. You can do it at the bottom of the threads page.

lewisskinner
October 16th, 2006, 06:10 PM
am I being really thick or does the above site describe the new Moorfoot building as being both 8 and 14 storeys?

Probably both...

The office portion is eight storeys. At it's highest, it is fourteen

eighty4
October 18th, 2006, 02:25 AM
Ya know people im really worried. Ya know how in the 60's or 70's (cant remember which one) they had a vision for sheffield to be this amazing city ?

They built all these (apparently) amazing buildings, very cheap and very fast. Ya know i think the same thing is happening again but you just dont realise it.
I didnt realise it when i was there but now i live abroad and i'm still interested in the developments that are going on back home. I still look at this website often to see whats happening and i can honestly say there isnt a single development i like :mad:

Ive seen developments being posted on here and basically what people say is "oh it'll do....at least its something" it really annoys me.

Do any of you honestly think that all these apartments blocks will be filled and stay filled ? im not on about 5 years time im talking 20+ ? Im not normally this negative but look at park hill for example.

paulmat
October 18th, 2006, 05:35 PM
I'm getting a bit worried about the amount of appartments being built. It's nothing like on the scale of Leeds, but some of them are pretty naff, and in 20 odd years, they couldd look rubbish.

There are however some really good projects going on at the moment aswell.

soupçon
October 18th, 2006, 06:20 PM
It's down to the build quality and whether the housing continues to meet people's needs. I have no idea what the build quality of these new developments is like, as I haven't been in any city centre appartments. I suspect they will vary in quality a lot.

Park Hill's appartments are pretty generous - they're better than most of the recent additions to the city centre. The problems are concrete technology was not as good then as it is now and the easy access around the building turned out to be undesirable in the long term.

Which of these current buildings are being built 'fast'? - I'm not seeing any evidence of this. lol

There are a lot of buildings being created within a relatively short period of time, but some of this is due to the many years before with very little investment.

unners
October 26th, 2006, 05:03 PM
Where the old sheaf Valley Baths once stood, there has been a JCB on site moving earth today,so could this be a start on the office complex which i have totally forgotten the name of and hence can not find the thread!.

But then again JCB's come to building sites in Sheffield do a few things and then bugger off for a few months like HOTC!

snup
October 28th, 2006, 07:44 PM
Really pleased to read in the Telegraph that Sheffield now has an independent panel of experts with the brief to achieve the highest possible design standards in new projects in the city.

The Urban Design Review Panel is chaired by John Pringle (whose company was behind the design of the Winter Garden and Millennium Galleries) and its aim is to set new architectural benchmarks at a time when the city is seeing unprecedented levels of development.
The panel will try to increase the pressure on the council to withstand developments whose design are regarded as falling short of what is regarded as well-designed buildings and public spaces.
Panel views need to be sought at the earlier stages of planning, before the plans are submitted to the council.

The first meeting of the panel last week focussed on the new John Lewis store in the NRQ, a proposed hotel for the site of the former NMB in front of the railway station and the Sheffield University's Jessop Wing development. Could this spell the end for mediocre red brick buildings? Well done SCC!

muddycoffee
October 28th, 2006, 09:04 PM
I am finding it increasingly surprising that so many large hotels are needed in the city centre.
I know we are about to loose the grosvenor, but is there really this much demand?

paulmat
October 28th, 2006, 09:41 PM
Really pleased to read in the Telegraph that Sheffield now has an independent panel of experts with the brief to achieve the highest possible design standards in new projects in the city.

The Urban Design Review Panel is chaired by John Pringle (whose company was behind the design of the Winter Garden and Millennium Galleries) and its aim is to set new architectural benchmarks at a time when the city is seeing unprecedented levels of development.
The panel will try to increase the pressure on the council to withstand developments whose design are regarded as falling short of what is regarded as well-designed buildings and public spaces.
Panel views need to be sought at the earlier stages of planning, before the plans are submitted to the council.

The first meeting of the panel last week focussed on the new John Lewis store in the NRQ, a proposed hotel for the site of the former NMB in front of the railway station and the Sheffield University's Jessop Wing development. Could this spell the end for mediocre red brick buildings? Well done SCC!

This can only be good news can't it? The only drawback would be that it could deter some developments, but if they're gonna bee crap developments then we don't want them.

I am finding it increasingly surprising that so many large hotels are needed in the city centre.
I know we are about to loose the grosvenor, but is there really this much demand?

It's not due to hotels (such as the Grosvenor) closing down, it's cause there's so few as it is. And if there is demand for them, then that's good.

dinp
October 28th, 2006, 10:35 PM
There must be demand for hotels, I mean there are two universities, so that's a lot of graduation ceremonies. There is the World Snooker event, two major football clubs, various individual and business events that will occupy a lot of rooms. There's probably loads more events to list that I haven't even thought of.

All I know is that when trying to book rooms at a hotel for my graduation next month, there was a limited choice of hotels and some of them were full.

Alfie
October 29th, 2006, 07:26 PM
http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/in-your-area/planning-and-city-development/sheffields-urban-design-review-panel-

There's a good summary of what this is all about on the SCC website (above). looks like a formidable array of bods on the panel. interestingly, their comments on projects "in the public domain" are to be published on the SCC website.

di Livio
November 1st, 2006, 02:56 PM
I haven't read this but it might be of interest, from the Yorkshire Post...

Regeneration plans put up for approval
Markets area set to move across Sheffield
Paul Whitehouse
PLANS for the first phase of the long-awaited regeneration of the Moor in Sheffield, which would include the creation of a new markets area, have been submitted to the council. Developers hope to start work by next spring.
The scheme is one of the biggest elements of the overall scheme to revive the city centre and the current plans are the result of years of work, which culminated in public consultations in Sheffield earlier this year.
If planning permission is granted, the scheme will feature a 57,000sq ft indoor market hall, which will replace the existing Castlegate building at the opposite end of the city centre.
It will incorporate shops, student accommodation. A separate planning application has been submitted for a secure car park with a direct link to the market hall.
The scheme is part of a Regeneration Framework for the Moor, which has been endorsed by the council and should involve further developments.
It would promote the "city living" concept by providing homes in an area which is not occupied at present.
If the project starts as expected building would be completed during the summer of 2009. A document produced by accountants PricewaterhouseCoopers suggests the scheme will help to advance many of the council's aims for regenerating the city centre.
The developer behind the scheme is RREEF, which have been working closely with council officials on the scheme and says the plans for the new building have been drawn by world class architects.
Existing market facilities in Sheffield have been considered out of date for many years but the council has struggled to come up with a replacement.
That has led to controversy, with market traders complaining about the standard of accommodation and the effect on their trade.
After the initial proposals to switch the markets to the Moor, public consultations were conducted at three different locations, with 79 per cent of those who took part in the survey coming down in favour of the proposals.
Nick Lee, who is responsible for the planning application, said: "This investment reflects RREEF's longer-term approach to regeneration and its recognition of the positive impact that this project will have in bringing forward further phases of redevelopment on the Moor.
"We believe that these proposals merit strong support from all parties involved in regenerating Sheffield city centre."
The Moor is increasingly regarded as one of the "forgotten" areas of the city centre but if the markets are relocated there it should draw in more visitors.
If the scheme goes ahead, it is likely to be completed ahead of the city centre's flagship New Retail Quarter, which will provide dozens of new shops across a swathe of land including the site now occupied by the South Yorkshire Fire and Rescue Service headquarters in Wellington Street, which should be occupied by a new John Lewis store.
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GregglesUK
November 1st, 2006, 07:51 PM
Not sure what's being built but looks like work is finally starting on the site of the solitary red crane near Shalesmoor tram stop and the new IRR roundabout - the crane has actually started moving and there are diggers and workmen on site.

eighty4
November 2nd, 2006, 06:24 AM
Im an ex sheffielder and now an adopted aucklander i just thought id jump in the air and scream like a kid since Auckland is being featured on the banner on the top of the screen today.

I still love sheffield but unfortunatly ive fallen in love with auckland :)


Completly off topic i know :righton: Auckland = Amazing woohoo

paulmat
November 7th, 2006, 07:47 PM
I never realised how many developments you can see on this:

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8201/nrq1vj6.jpg

There's the NRQ obviouusly, then there's also the St. Pauls Place, The Station Gateway, The NUM building, The NMD building and Leopold square.

There's also the ?Nelson? Building tower, which I hope means they know something about it which we don't.

soupçon
November 7th, 2006, 09:47 PM
You're highlighting one of the main issues with consultation. As soon as people see images they become 'real' in their heads. This picture is just to illustrate the general ideas of the NRQ masterplan - don't read too much into the individual buildings yet. They've only just appointed the architects for John Lewis, so I don't think we'll see any designs for a wee while. I think the layout of the streets is pretty much set in stone though.

paulmat
November 7th, 2006, 10:33 PM
Nah, I just meant that the image shows a lot of the developments that are going on at the moment.

roneys_today
November 7th, 2006, 10:44 PM
i remember going to a lecture at hallam a few years ago where they first presented 'the masterplan' to the public. it all looked so cool (and that's when that image was created) but i never thought it would ALL happen. all credit to the council i suppose. it's a huge job.

paulmat
November 8th, 2006, 12:56 AM
Found this. Looks quite interesting:

http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/EasySite/lib/serveDocument.asp?doc=74843&pgid=92499

lewisskinner
November 9th, 2006, 03:39 PM
I never realised how many developments you can see on this:

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8201/nrq1vj6.jpg

There's the NRQ obviouusly, then there's also the St. Pauls Place, The Station Gateway, The NUM building, The NMD building and Leopold square.

There's also the ?Nelson? Building tower, which I hope means they know something about it which we don't.

A lot of it is plain wrong though! t Paul's Office 3 is at least half as all again as Office 1, and there are vaious other problems on that picture.

MDC
November 11th, 2006, 03:22 PM
Hi everyone, I have been reading your posts for the last few weeks and am very intersted in all Sheffield developments so I decided to register. Can anyone tell me if anything is still going to happen at the Ecclesall Road roundabout site? You know, where the old bathroom showroom was, was that the Cala Eclipse?

AndrewC
November 11th, 2006, 04:15 PM
Cala Eclipse is actually the other side of the roundabout in the empty space (now surrounded by boards) between the ring road and the two offices behind Wickes. The bathroom showroom site is for another residential tower, not sure of its official name or developer but known around these parts as Hanover Tower. We know as much as you do really, theres not been any sign of life since I think it was granted planning permission in around 2004/5.

MDC
November 12th, 2006, 08:39 PM
Just read Friday's Telegraph and it mentioned a new development on the Moor, just down from Debenhams. It may have a 23 story building included in it. Have you heard anything on this or do you have any drawings?

paulmat
November 12th, 2006, 09:34 PM
There's some stuff about it on the Moor development thread.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=311939

The 23 Story tower isn't on the page, but from what we know so far, the block next to debenhams will have a 3 tier stepped tower which will probably be about 70m (it was on display at the public consultation a couple of months ago).

There's also gonna be a tower at the bottom of the Moor (next to the Manpower Building), but i've not seen anything more than a very basic plastic model, but it looks quite tall (90+m ?).

soupçon
November 13th, 2006, 01:37 PM
I was assuming the 23 storey tower was the highest of the stepped towers...

paulmat
November 13th, 2006, 05:09 PM
I think it is, but there's conna be a tower at the end of the moor too, which looks like it could be nearing 100m.

Atleast hopefully it will be :-P.

soupçon
November 13th, 2006, 06:14 PM
I think it is, but there's conna be a tower at the end of the moor too, which looks like it could be nearing 100m.

Atleast hopefully it will be :-P.

Ker and ching.

Biosonic
November 15th, 2006, 01:34 PM
Don't know whether this is mentioned elsewhere, (from Architect's Journal):

http://www.ajplus.co.uk/Images/Articles/151106_JESSOP_MAIN.jpg

Sauerbruch Hutton has won the go-ahead for its first major public project in the UK – part of the on-going redevelopment of a former women’s hospital in Sheffield.

The practice, which is based in Berlin and is headed by CABE commissioner Louisa Hutton, has secured planning permission for a new ‘landmark’ building for the University of Sheffield on the empty western corner of the Jessop Hospital site.

Once built, the competition-winning scheme will provide new facilities for the University’s departments of English, law and history.

Sauerbruch Hutton has become established as one of the biggest names in German architecture, but has had trouble picking up successful commissions in the UK.

Meanwhile, Sheffield City Council has also approved the revamp of the existing Grade-II listed Victorian hospital, to be carried out by Carey Jones. The university’s department of music is expected to move into these refurbished buildings.

paulmat
November 15th, 2006, 04:08 PM
^^ That projects not a new one, but it's great that it's got planning permission.

MDC
November 16th, 2006, 10:46 AM
I think it will make a great addition to that area.

di Livio
November 16th, 2006, 01:44 PM
Saw the new Arctic Monkeys new vid in Toni&Guy. I thought it was set in the US until i realised the woman was about to jump off the Showroom cinema! How i laughed. Good to see London Road in there too. So many memories.

di Livio
November 16th, 2006, 01:44 PM
..

DMT20
November 16th, 2006, 02:17 PM
Just got an email that confirms the university intends to begin consruction on Jessops in early 2007 with departments moving in in 2008. They dont hang around!

paulmat
November 16th, 2006, 05:07 PM
Saw the new Arctic Monkeys new vid in Toni&Guy. I thought it was set in the US until i realised the woman was about to jump off the Showroom cinema! How i laughed. Good to see London Road in there too. So many memories.

Yeah, it was on the news a little while ago that they'd been filming it.

dinp
November 16th, 2006, 06:53 PM
I know the video for When the Sun Goes Down was filmed in Sheffield as well, but what about The View from the Afternoon? (the one between the tower blocks)

BarryPseudonym
November 16th, 2006, 09:42 PM
Milburn's latest video was at least part filmed in The Grapes while I was in there. They had a guy dressed as a clown. I haven't seen the finished video.

jozblade
November 16th, 2006, 11:29 PM
What song - What You Could've Won?

Starslight
November 17th, 2006, 03:29 AM
I'm not sure about the view form the afternoon but the original video for Fake Tales of San Francisco was mostly shot around Sheffield and included gems such as the arts tower.

Bladerunner
November 17th, 2006, 12:51 PM
'Leave before the lights come on' can be viewed here

http://www.dominorecordco.com/site/player.php?fileID=831&trackID=4650&action=watch

soupçon
November 17th, 2006, 06:36 PM
I quite like this new building - the groovy lit-up signs are a winner.

http://static.flickr.com/104/299510940_54cf11ab03_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/113/299510944_16cbdd72f0.jpg?v=0

It's an architect's studios near the Riverside pub.

MDC
November 17th, 2006, 07:54 PM
Drove down Eyre Street today, looks like they've started on the new Fire HQ. Anyone got any pics on that one?

paulmat
November 17th, 2006, 09:16 PM
There could be hope yet for the Cooling towers:

..."They [E.on] are intent on looking for alternatives - which would involve the demolition of the towers - but which would not rule out something in their place which would be iconic or a fitting artistic tribute.
"They are not ruling out a solution which would be imaginative and appropriate but they are, and remain, committed to the demolition of the towers."
E.ON say the demolition would not take place before March as the site needs to be cleared and made safe.
Mr Blunkett says unless £300,000 can be found from a benefactor, the towers are coming down...

Full article: http://www.sheffieldtoday.net/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=58&ArticleID=1883908

lewisskinner
November 18th, 2006, 01:05 AM
not really hope... They just said they may put a striking buiding in it's place (red brick anyone?)

paulmat
November 18th, 2006, 11:47 PM
Another minaret is gonna be on the skyline if it gets planning permision

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/5418/mosrf4.jpg

http://planning.sheffield.gov.uk/publicaccess/dc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?caseno=J4R7V2NY6B000&searchtype=WEEKLY

dinp
November 19th, 2006, 04:31 PM
Another minaret is gonna be on the skyline if it gets planning permision

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/5418/mosrf4.jpg

http://planning.sheffield.gov.uk/publicaccess/dc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?caseno=J4R7V2NY6B000&searchtype=WEEKLY

I'm not familiar with the immediate surroundings of this site, but certainly in isolation this looks quite attractive :)

paulmat
November 19th, 2006, 07:41 PM
I don't think it's in the centre.

muddycoffee
November 19th, 2006, 07:49 PM
I am familiar with that junction, it has been undeveloped for decades. It looks rather like a strange junction which had lots of terraced houses demolished 30years ago and has been left to grass ever since, you can still see the large old fashioned stone kerbstones, probably indicating that there are cobbles under the tarmac.

Across petre street from here is is what looks like an enormous quarry with huge earth shifting JCBs in a line.

muddycoffee
November 19th, 2006, 07:52 PM
I don't think it's in the centre.

No it is right out at Grimesthorpe, not far from earl marshall school and about half a mile from Northern General Hospital.

arepeejee
November 19th, 2006, 07:52 PM
It's out to the south of Meadowhall I think. Looks much nicer than the disgrace that is the one near Queens Road!

MDC
November 20th, 2006, 11:18 AM
I used to work on Petre Street and drove down Botham Street on my way there so I know that area quite well. A man I used to work with used to live in the terraces on that street when he was a child. The building will look a bit isolated though, perhaps it will stimulate more building in the area.

soupçon
November 21st, 2006, 06:55 PM
http://static.flickr.com/116/302896496_d0fa44c164.jpg?v=0

http://static.flickr.com/101/302896500_b130c77478.jpg?v=0

http://planningdocs.sheffield.gov.uk/WAM/doc/Application%20(Drawings)-141811.pdf?extension=.pdf&wmTransparency=0&id=141811&wmLocation=0&location=Volume3&contentType=application%2Fpdf&wmName=&pageCount=2

lewisskinner
November 21st, 2006, 07:40 PM
It's just to the South of the Northern General

lewisskinner
November 21st, 2006, 07:41 PM
Where is that?

soupçon
November 21st, 2006, 07:47 PM
Where is that?


Trickett's? It's on Trippet Lane just behind Takapunas. I think the building should technically be called Anglo Works.

lewisskinner
November 21st, 2006, 08:43 PM
Oh, that's what they're doing there... Saw the scaffold the other day on my way to Dove & Rainbow, but it was dark! What's it gonna be?

soupçon
November 22nd, 2006, 12:44 AM
Oh, that's what they're doing there... Saw the scaffold the other day on my way to Dove & Rainbow, but it was dark! What's it gonna be?

I had a good look through the planning documents - the council's planning web pages are really comprehensive. Shame they only have b & w elevations, but you can get the picture. Anyway it seems to be flats (presumably students as there are 6 to 10 bedrooms per living area) on top of retail. Can't remember if it was shops or food/bars though.

lewisskinner
November 23rd, 2006, 02:28 AM
Nice to see some retail cropping up in St Vincents!

soupçon
November 23rd, 2006, 01:48 PM
Nice to see some retail cropping up in St Vincents!

Wrong quarter! Not sure if Trippet Lane is Devonshire, St. Georges or Cathedral though...

I'd plump for St. Georges.

How come there's 11 or 12 of them if they're quarters anyway - shouldn't we call them twelfths? :nuts: