View Full Version : Montreal Universities Join Urban Sprawl


hkskyline
January 27th, 2006, 04:55 AM
Universities' urban sprawl shows no signs of slowing down
UQAM project includes bus station facelift
Universite de Montreal eyes Outremont site
PEGGY CURRAN
14 January 2006
Montreal Gazette

Derek Drummond calls it his "This Land Was Our Land" lecture.

An architecture professor who has been at McGill University for 42 years, Drummond traces the university's pivotal role in the evolution of Montreal's downtown core, taking wistful delight in ticking off those juicy chunks of real estate that got away.

Central Station and the Queen Elizabeth Hotel, the Peel and McGill metros, Place Ville Marie, the McCord Museum and shops along the busiest stretch of Ste. Catherine St. - all stand on land that once belonged to McGill.

"When McGill set up, we were alone in the field - the city really did grow up around us," Drummond says of the rambling Burnside estate James McGill bequeathed to the college that would bear his name.

"The university sold off a lot of the land for virtually nothing - and now it's the highest valued land in the city."

Still, that sprawling balliwick of elegant Montreal greystone and red brick sweeping up through the Roddick Gates isn't exactly shabby, either. And it's a fair bet that early, desperate need for cash to finance construction is a key reason why McGill still stands in the thick of downtown action.

With three universities in the central core - and Universite de Montreal just over the ridge of Mount Royal - higher education has spread its tentacles from one end of the island to the other, with satellite campuses and branch operations across the river, over the sea and in cyberspace.

And universities - and the research centres and student ghettos they spawn - aren't done throwing their weight around. Fuelled by gifts from newly minted philanthropists keen to plaster their names on posterity, the groves of academe sprout concert halls and science centres and state-of-the-art chicken coops.

In the western core, Concordia University's recent building boom is largely credited with the resurgence of an ugly patch of Ste. Catherine St. that had pretty much been given up for a dead a decade ago. Now the university has laid claim to the Grey Nuns' mother house. It plans to build the new John Molson School of Business on the empty lot on the northwest corner of Guy St. and de Maisonneuve Blvd. W. Even buildings it doesn't own have been colonized, with Concordia classrooms squeezed above Jean Coutu and students using the food fair in Faubourg Ste. Catherine as an informal study hall.

To the east, Universite du Quebec a Montreal has announced a $320-million complex on Berri St. across from the glittering Bibliotheque nationale du Quebec.

The three-year project, bounded by de Maisonneuve Blvd. E., Berri, Ontario and St. Hubert Sts., will house classrooms, language studios, and an art gallery. In addition, it will provide housing for 1,225 students in a scheme that also provides for a much-needed facelift for the city's grotty inter-city bus terminal.

With 55,000 students, Universite de Montreal is already the biggest school in the province, with 49 buildings in Montreal and a few dozen more at campuses in St. Hyacinthe, St. Hippolyte, Megantic, Laval, Longueuil and Lanaudiere. A blitz of construction over the past five years - most of the new towers are monuments to the stars of Quebec's business elite - hasn't curbed an insatiable appetite for research labs, classrooms and student dorms. Now U de M is angling to build a "campus for the 21st century" on the old Canadian Pacific railway yard in Outremont.

Though the $20-million land deal has yet to receive formal approval, the city has only good things to say about a scheme that would provide a mix of student housing and private homes, keep fresh university projects on the island and eliminate a hazardous eyesore.

habsfan
January 27th, 2006, 04:26 PM
Lots of Construction going on in this city with regards to the 4 major universities. Obviously this is great news...i just hope it keeps going for many years to come!

ssiguy2
January 27th, 2006, 06:50 PM
I know where McGill and Concordia are and I think I know U of M. but where is U.Q. a Montreal? I of course know of it but not where it is.
Does anyone have a map of the island of Montreal that has all the university sites on it. I know most universities have sattelite campuses but the main campus on a map would be great. Thanks.

edalens
January 28th, 2006, 01:31 AM
I know where McGill and Concordia are and I think I know U of M. but where is U.Q. a Montreal? I of course know of it but not where it is.
Does anyone have a map of the island of Montreal that has all the university sites on it. I know most universities have sattelite campuses but the main campus on a map would be great. Thanks.

Sir,

I did not find a map of the 4 universities, but I did find one pointing to the 4 departments of mathématiques.



http://www.math.uqam.ca/ism/images/plan-Montreal.jpg

edalens
January 28th, 2006, 02:01 AM
I know where McGill and Concordia are and I think I know U of M. but where is U.Q. a Montreal? I of course know of it but not where it is.
Does anyone have a map of the island of Montreal that has all the university sites on it. I know most universities have sattelite campuses but the main campus on a map would be great. Thanks.

Sir,

Attached if a map of the campus of the Université du Québec à Montréal (UQAM).

A few years ago, coming back from Philadelphia (I am plain crazy of that city) to Montréal, the plane passenger seating besides me was a young medical doctor, unilingual anglophone though born and
raised in Montréal’s West Island. He was finishing a medical fellowship in Philadelphia.

In any event, at a point of time in the conversation, I spoke about UQAM. He did not believe that it existed, especially when I mentioned it’s around 35000 students (now more than 41000)! And when I
told him that it was located at the Berri-Uqam main subway station, he was sure I was joking!!!

He told me that he was going there on a regular basis to pick up his recent francophone girl friend.

This anecdote says a lot about the «Two Solitudes» in Montréal...

Please excuse my bad English.

Éric

http://www.stcum.qc.ca/metro/images/c11.gif

marek bielski
January 28th, 2006, 06:37 AM
Sir,

Attached if a map of the campus of the Université du Québec à Montréal (UQAM).

A few years ago, coming back from Philadelphia (I am plain crazy of that city) to Montréal, the plane passenger seating near me was a young medical doctor, unilingual anglophone though born and raised in Montréal’s West Island. He was finishing a medical fellowship in Philadelphia.

In any event, at a point of time in the conversation, I spoke about UQAM. He did not believe that it existed, especially when I mentioned its around 35000 students (now more than 41000)! And when I told him that it was located at the Berri-Uqam main subway station, he was sure I was joking!!!

He told me that he was going there on a regular basis to pick his recent francophone girl friends.

This anecdote says a lot about the «Two Solitudes» in Montréal.

Please excuse my bad English

Éric


hardly believable ...

ssiguy2
January 28th, 2006, 07:35 PM
Thanks, that helps.

malek
January 28th, 2006, 09:29 PM
hardly believable ...


I know, but many times when english speaking people ask where i went, i tell them UQAM and they look like they never heard of it, they look puzzled. :cheers:

malek
January 28th, 2006, 09:31 PM
http://www.urbanphoto.net/temp/universities.gif

edalens
January 28th, 2006, 11:32 PM
Shalom Shabbat Malek:

Thanks for commenting (and adding) to my experience of the solitudes in Montréal. As well, I enjoy your map of the universities that I never saw before. It is impressive (and luckily it is mentioned that there are more than 41000 students at UQAM).

I was able to find the Web address of the site from were the map was taken. I did not know of that site; I glanced at it and it seems to be interesting. So I am adding its general address below.

http://www.urbanphoto.net/2006-january.htm (http://http://www.urbanphoto.net/2006-january.htm)

PS : I wonder if and how the following excerpt from Thoreau could be applied to the solitudes that we were speaking about, the solitudes of MacLennan. Often, Thoreau’s insights offer the opportunity to perceive a reality from a different and unexpected angle.

« If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. »

samsonyuen
January 29th, 2006, 09:38 PM
Great news to hear the universities adding so much to the urban fabric.

Ashok
January 30th, 2006, 06:35 AM
great map malek

I did not think the Universities will take up so much space.

malek
January 30th, 2006, 08:16 PM
150k students need to be put somewhere ;)

habsfan
January 30th, 2006, 11:12 PM
And these numbers don'T include all the Cegep Students that attend the Downtown Cegeps (Cégep du Vieux Montréal, Dawson)