Project : National Monument of Pakistan
Location: Shakar Paryaan West
Client : Ministry of Minority, Culture, Sports, Tourism & Youth Affairs, Govt of Pakistan, Islamabad
Architects & Consultants : M/s Arif Masood + Naqvi & Siddiqi
Contractor : M/s Universal Corporation (Pvt) Ltd
Date of Commencement : 30 April 2004
Duration : 2years

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This section of the project is visible from Zero Point and many other places.
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RCC One Point Arches with brick masonary at the bottom.
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Zarai Tarqiati Bank of Pakistan (11storeys) and Faisal Mosque can be seen. The sky wuz misty so u cant see furhter things clear.
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The second part of the project. Intensive network of formwork. All of this is being done in Reinforced Cement Concrete (RCC). This too can be seen from many places.
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Dont no wuts the purpose of these pillars rite now but they sure have a large dia.
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RCC 4.5inch Parapit wall meshes.
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Zarai Tarqiati Bank of Pakistan zoomed from site
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Excellent project!! Good work Techno-Architect! :okay:

But I am not really sure if it will be completed by April 30, 2006. This structure atleast require 8-10 months (or may be a year) to complete.

On concrete surface Red Ruby Granite is used to give it a good finish!
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Fountain - Looking North
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Fountain - Looking South....lookind down at the third section of the project
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Thermopore sheet used at junctions where there electric switches are going to be placed later. The thermopore sheet prevent the concrete to damage the wiring during the concrete pouring process and can be easily broker once the concrete soldifies.
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Looking Toward H-8 Graveyard side. The floor is beign finished with granite
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Steps
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Two type of imported granite is beign used here. Red Ruby Granite (shiny one) & Red Granite (textured one). Granites are costly but are good in a number of ways. The provide good look to the floors and in places where there is a large 'abrassion' effect, wear n tear, in busy places esp they are useful.
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Another floor pattern captured. Granite tiles are going to be placed in a 'kite' geometry with a rectangular box in the middle.
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RCC mesh being used. which will look like smth in the next pic.
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Another fountain but the water will drain toward North side.
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Zoom in.
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They are leaving hollow spaces at the top of the arch.
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Hey, Techno-Architect. I assume you are from Islamabad. Can you take the map of Islamabad and point out where the poor areas are?

ya sure i will point out the place on a map in a while.
I am from Isloo thats true.....but currently im studying at Lahore!!

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What is this building in the back. It looks deserted. Is it in decay?

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Looking Northwest at the city. G-8/4
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Zoom 2 - Pakistan Post - Close to this is the site for the new CDA Heaquater building (16storey prposed)(rightside...c up)
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This part of the project with get some soft landscaping on it. Looking toward South West H-8 & Islambad Highway side. There were staircase leading down, but i dont have any idea if there is a basement beneath the place im standing rite now.
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Itz look good when its gona b green!!
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RCC Parapit wall
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What is this building in the back. It looks deserted. Is it in decay?


>>> This building wus designed by Naqvi & Siddiqui in 1970's. Its 11 storey and was the tallest building in Isloo till Saudi Pak Tower (16 Storey- desinged by Nayyar Ali Dada) took the place in 1990's.
Its still in use by the Agriculture Development Bank Of Pakistan but certainly needs to be repainted and renovated now!!!

The steps had a zig-zag 'tread' (where u put ur footsteps).
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Arches from the backside.
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Elevator to go to the landscaped area i meantioned earlier or the basement if there is any.
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Fountain tanks facing South
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Insulation aswell as water proof membrane is used above the concrete floor and below the grantite finish.
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The third section of the project. It is a musuem, undergroung one. Couldnt get much access to it but wut i say inside from far told me that will be the best part. Chapti Taweera - a yellow type of marble is being used on the facade. Note that about 6-7 finishing material are used on this project.

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Checkout the slope of the roof.Amazing!!
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N ofcourse this amazing peice of semi-circular arches!! the further they go they broader they become thus they dont look smaller in perspective!
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Projection given which is in aluminium cladding
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This monument is of greater importance so it is being fenced from all around.
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All these pix have been taken in January 2006

Zoom In if u wanna find in the place. National Monument of Pakistan (NMP), West Shakar Paryaan Complex, near Zero Point.

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can you post the rendering

Techno Architect thanks a bunch for posting the pictures. Dil khush kar diya aap nain. Project is of superb quality!!

Holy crap!

What a worklog man!

hey techno architect if u get a chance can u get some pics of the new islamabad airport site?

what a fu*king waste of money :bash:

At least they wasted money the non jahil corrupt way.

There is exactly some thing like this in Baghdad Iraq in dark blue color.

West Shakar Paryaan Near Zero Point

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The three sections of the Project

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Man this project rocks!! :applause:

We are the suppliers of marble and granite for the "National Monument" project located at Shakarparian, Islamabad.

Both kinds of materials have been imported by us. The major quantity of marble used for this project is 'Crema Venato', having a creamy yellow base colour, supplied cut-to-size in brushed finish. The major quantity of granite used for this project is 'Maple Red', having a red/orange base colour, supplied cut-to-size in polished and flamed finishes.

The physical & chemical properties of both materials meet or exceed the international standards (ASTM) that have been set for marble and granite to be used as a building material.

There are two main structures in this project. One is the monument itself with the raised 'petals' (as you can see from the photos), and the other one opposite it is going to be used as a museum.

We have successfully completed supply of the imported cut-to-size marble and granite. The total delivered quantity of marble and granite is more than 100,000 sq.ft.

Any rendering of this project?

This is really looking good. Thanks for the updates techno!

We are the suppliers of marble and granite for the "National Monument" project located at Shakarparian, Islamabad.

Both kinds of materials have been imported by us. The major quantity of marble used for this project is 'Crema Venato', having a creamy yellow base colour, supplied cut-to-size in brushed finish. The major quantity of granite used for this project is 'Maple Red', having a red/orange base colour, supplied cut-to-size in polished and flamed finishes.

The physical & chemical properties of both materials meet or exceed the international standards (ASTM) that have been set for marble and granite to be used as a building material.

There are two main structures in this project. One is the monument itself with the raised 'petals' (as you can see from the photos), and the other one opposite it is going to be used as a museum.

We have successfully completed supply of the imported cut-to-size marble and granite. The total delivered quantity of marble and granite is more than 100,000 sq.ft.


can you give a brief introduction of yourself.

can you give a brief introduction of yourself.

We are specialized in the processing, fabrication and installation of natural stone like marble and granite. Our main area of interest is large-scale building projects. We offer local and imported materials. Some of the projects that we have successfully completed with installation of cut-to-size materials are listed as follows:
Saudi-Pak Tower, Isbd, qty. 100,000 sq.ft
Supreme Court of Pakistan, Isbd, qty. 350,000 sq.ft
Data Darbar Extension, Lhr, qty. 200,000 sq.ft
Dewan Salman Medical Complex, Khi, qty. 100,000 sq.ft
Nigerian Embassy, Isbd, qty. 100,000 sq.ft
Korean Embassy, Isbd, qty. 100,000 sq.ft
Prime Minister's Secretariat, Isbd, qty. 350,000 sq.ft
Parliamentarians Lodges, Isbd, qty. 200,000 sq.ft
Ittefaq Group's private villas, Raiwind/Lhr, qty. 100,000 sq.ft
Serena Hotel, Isbd, qty. 200,000 sq.ft
Pakistan Telecom Foundation Plaza, Isbd, qty. 60,000 sq.ft
Areej Plaza, Isbd, qty. 50,000 sq.ft
New Saudi Embassy & Ambassador's Residence, Isbd, qty. 75,000 sq.ft

Welcome to the forum Stone Forever.

Please tell me where did you get the marble and granite from??

Why did you import it?? I think there is a huuuge variety of marble (atleast) available in Pakistan. Why the need to import?

Thanks.

Welcome to the forum Stone Forever.

Please tell me where did you get the marble and granite from??

Why did you import it?? I think there is a huuuge variety of marble (atleast) available in Pakistan. Why the need to import?

Thanks.

Thanks Red Arrow, I'm glad to be here to share my two bits with all of you.

For this project the marble is from Spain and the granite is from Brazil.

The need to import was due to the relatively short period of supply that was required. Had we relied on domestically produced marble & granite, we would not have been able to deliver 100,000 sq.ft of cut-to-size, finished material within a period of 4 months.

There is not a single processing unit in Pakistan and especially not even a single mine/quarry of marble or granite that could meet the qty./delivery requirement of this project.

Thats a shame, it would have been nice if the materials for this monument were actually from Pakistan..

I have updated the latest pix on this project

Visit the link:

http://www.urbanpk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=371&st=0

How is such an expensive monument justified for a country that hasnt been able to achieve 90% of the goals it was made for?

If we were an economically sound, democratically stable, well educated, tolerant and enlightened country, it would have been a monument to be proud of. Right now its just a behemoth white elephant. A hollow monument constructed to give a false impression of greatness using millions of rupees that could have been MUCH better spent updating our curriculums, training more teachers, or constructing more schools.

^ well said!

I have updated the latest pix on this project

Visit the link:

http://www.urbanpk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=371&st=0

Excellento bro excellento!! Love the monument and the attention to details. Thanks a lot for posting. Hope I can see this monument on my next visit to Isloo.

How is such an expensive monument justified for a country that hasnt been able to achieve 90% of the goals it was made for?

If we were an economically sound, democratically stable, well educated, tolerant and enlightened country, it would have been a monument to be proud of. Right now its just a behemoth white elephant. A hollow monument constructed to give a false impression of greatness using millions of rupees that could have been MUCH better spent updating our curriculums, training more teachers, or constructing more schools.
This logic falters when we can bring up points such as the M2 should not have been constructed because GT road was already present. Or the Minar-e-Pakistan shouldnt have been constructed because of the more important challenges that we had to face. I for one believe monuments help teach the middle class about our country and instills them with the jazba that we need all our citizens to carry. There will always be a counter argument on this issue.

^^ You cannot compare infrastructure projects such as M2 to monumental projects which usually serve no purpose. I am sure the youth of the country and the 'middle class' awaam will appreciate the country much more if they are better educated, have more judicial access, have proper healthcare, and have opportunities for self betterment available to them than they would by gazing in awe at any monument to superficial grandeur.

^^ You cannot compare infrastructure projects such as M2 to monumental projects which usually serve no purpose. I am sure the youth of the country and the 'middle class' awaam will appreciate the country much more if they are better educated, have more judicial access, have proper healthcare, and have opportunities for self betterment available to them than they would by gazing in awe at any monument to superficial grandeur.
Yes, you can compare the M2 with this because GT road is the ALTERNATIVE route to Islamabad. Infact, a lot of people use the road still to get to Islamabad. This project does serve a purpose though and that is to educate those intrested. They are a 100 diffrent other things the money could have gone into to benefit something better but why do we always have to question EVERY single decision like blood thirsty hounds. So what if they spent money elsewhere. It adds some entertainment value to a already boring city. It was built for the people and that is a good enough reason. Why do they want to work on Port Qasim when Karachi can handle the current load of shipping traffic? Why was Ormara and the rest of the ports opened when the money could have gone to improving infastructure in Karachi? You always do complain that Karachi is not getting this or that. Like I said there is no point in making such arguments as there will always be a better thing to invest into like UP's Bank Account.:lol:

^^ Your reasoning is surprisingly flawed. M2 may have been an alternative route, however, it is still something that is useful as infrastructure. It may be a bit ahead of its time but its not going to be too long before it becomes part of the regular backbone of the country's economy.
As far as Karachi's port goes, having just one port in the country is a disadvantage in itself. And Port Qasim was primarily built for the steel mill and the other heavy industries around it. You are trivializing big infrastructure projects that provide convenience and economic benefit to thousands (if not millions) in the country in your illogical support of a hollow monument. None of the arguments you gave here carries any proper weightage other than suggesting your emotional irritation at somebody objecting to a project that you seem to like.

And as far as criticism of something goes, do you seriously expect all 14 million Pakistanis to have the exact same viewpoint on an issue as you do? This kinda reminds me of the republican American South where even criticising president Bush is seen as unpatriotic.

No, since there was a alternative route and considering the economic conditions at the time of the inception of the M2 it was not something that was required. We could have held off the creation of the motorway until we HAD the funds to actually pay for it instead of taking out loans.

Port Qasim may have been built for the steel mills but are you aware of the fact that the steel mills have always been operating at a loss of billions of rupees? Does a failed business really justify the creation of a port to handle its load?

There was NO mention of having everyone agree with me on this issue. You keep bringing up non-issues in your arguments that are completely unrelated to the topic and you seem to be making up things at this point. There was no need to add your sensationalism to the end of your post and it only shows bad on your character when you resort to such tactics.

Well I understand both UP's and SwerveUT's point of views. But I think that the project is a good one, even though some of swerveUT's concerns are legitimate but i somehow feel that a national museum and a monument isn't such a bad thing.

There was NO mention of having everyone agree with me on this issue. You keep bringing up non-issues in your arguments that are completely unrelated to the topic and you seem to be making up things at this point. There was no need to add your sensationalism to the end of your post and it only shows bad on your character when you resort to such tactics.

Re-reading what I wrote earlier in my post, I think I did end up over-sensationalizing the last part in my zeal to add a counterpoint. I agree, that was in bad taste.

For the record however, Port Qasim was not just built for the Steel Mill, it was built "for the steel mill and the other heavy industries around it". And as far as taking loans for the M2 goes, it is justified to take loans for infrastructural projects as they pay them back over time. However, I dont understand where the government coughed up money for such an expensive piece-de-resistance when the condition of other public sector programs is dismal enough to put us in ranks with the poor African countries. An example? our healthcare budget is stretched so thin that there are sewers overflowing in the backyard of the biggest hospital in the city of Karachi while the city is being threatened by an epidemic of Dengue. Makes you wonder what really are the priorities of the government?

Anyways we have both stated our viewpoints pretty clearly, so I think I am not going to discuss this further.

I neither have the energy to continue this further nor the will. MJP, has locked me into a debate that has kept me researching for the past 3 hours starting at about 1 am. I have read the entire economic survey of Pakistan so far and I feel like I have wrote the damn thing at this point.

National Monument of Pakistan

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looks nice

looks nice

looks like a cut up Kharbooza:nuts: :nuts:

ur actually right :lol:

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Another white elephant glorifying the achievement of nothing.

:ohno: :down:

to be honest, i dont like it too.

and it has also hindered the development of the zero point interchange .

I like it.. it's an inspirational piece of public space that was needed in Islamabad and is an integral part of developing the Shakarparian area into an arts and culture hub. Arts and culture are desperately needed as part of Pakistan's struggle against extremism, both from the West and our own mullahs.

Looks cool. I like it. I remember Techno architect posted its under construction pics and its top notch.

i would have much rather had a new international airport in Islamabad....:(

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Nice pictures, but it's still a cut up tarbooze...or was it kharbooza?

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It is beautiful. Nice updates. Keep it up. (y)

looks very nice, i think i should visit Islamabad soon.

Nice pictures, but it's still a cut up tarbooze...or was it kharbooza?

Kharbooza man! Tarbooze is too red inside :lol: :lol:

very nice place deserve a visit.

It is beautiful. Nice updates. Keep it up. (y)

Thanks

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Thanx for due credit man. I appreciate it. :)

Me likes!

the monument looks cool!

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ISLAMABAD - April 03: A spectacular view of the National Monument at Shakarparian in Islamabad on Tuesday.—Dawn

Eons ago, when I went to Shakarparian, there used to be a "chand sitara". Is it still there? It's just that the center of this monument reminds me of that.

Yes it is still over there.....

Although its old news, described & criticized here enough. But I don't remember seeing its symbolic significance of design described here this well.
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In the heart of the capital city Islamabad, Pakistan Monument is a beautifully designed site that attracts thousands of tourists every month. Dedicated to the People of Pakistan, the four arches represent the provinces of Pakistan (Balochistan, NWFP, Punjab, and Sindh). Inside the petals or the arches lie the beautifully made Crescent and the Star of the Pakistan Flag. The small arches represent the Northern Areas and Kashmir. The hard work by hundreds of craftsmen can be seen in form of beautiful patterns of glass, and special clay. Apart from the patterns which represent Pakistani Art, the walls of the petals have important landmarks, places, dreams of the poet Allama Muhammad Iqbal and the founders of Pakistan Qued-e-Azam and his sister Fatimah Ali Jinah to show you. The white walls of the petals, the moon and the star, the floor with the lights, the combination of brown, red and the dark brown colors, the torch of truth and knowledge, the fountain in the freedom plaza and hundreds of imprinted hands of the craftsmen who built this monument for the People of Pakistan give you a lovely feeling and a marvelous view.

The little patels represent Kashmir and Northern Areas. Kashmir is not a province but disputed area between Pakistan & India.

View of Monument from my car near Zero Point

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Its is one of the very much neat and clear place to visit and to have a full view of ISL.

I haven't been there :(

go there i quite relaxing enviroment there and bit of "POUNDI" too

Like most monuments and public places in Pakistan, this place is beautiful but crying for trees! I can always tell apart a Pakistani public place from one anywhere in the world from the lack of trees.. and potted plants. :) Nice pics RANA_AAA. Did you visit the museum?

You know, I really like this monument, its design and location, but I'm just not sure this is grand enough to be the NATIONAL monument of Pakistan. Perhaps something like Jinnah Memorial would be nicer. I'm used to the grand national monuments in Washington DC perhaps, but something larger and grander should be our national monument. Just my opinion though.

I agree ^^. It seems the new buildings in Pakistan are designed to impress the authorities, not to make a statement of public sentiment. When you try to be everything to everyone, you end up with mediocre stuff at best.

I prefer the simple & unified designs like Minar-e-Pakistan or Quaid Mizar that have stood the test of time and still look graceful.

Bangladesh Shaheed minar is another example that didn't cost a fortune to its taxpayers and is not as grand as the Capitol but still reflects the nations sacrifices.

Like most monuments and public places in Pakistan, this place is beautiful but crying for trees! I can always tell apart a Pakistani public place from one anywhere in the world from the lack of trees.. and potted plants. :) Nice pics RANA_AAA. Did you visit the museum?

no its remain close for poor people like us ut only open when some VIP's are coming.:ohno:

http://www.pakistan.gov.pk/divisions/culture-sports-division/media/CARD3.jpg

nice pic but looks old 2 years old maybe....!

I agree ^^. It seems the new buildings in Pakistan are designed to impress the authorities, not to make a statement of public sentiment. When you try to be everything to everyone, you end up with mediocre stuff at best.

I prefer the simple & unified designs like Minar-e-Pakistan or Quaid Mizar that have stood the test of time and still look graceful.

Bangladesh Shaheed minar is another example that didn't cost a fortune to its taxpayers and is not as grand as the Capitol but still reflects the nations sacrifices.
Minar-e-Pakistan sucks ass. I wish I could fly a plane into it to rid Lahore of that monstrosity. Quaid's mausoleum is also pretty average looking, but at least not ugly.

whats bad with minar-e-pakistan? i think its unique, elegant and has been the icon of pakistan for the last many decades.

if the gov take care of Minar e Paksitan wash it daily may be it look much better than whats it is looking now its colour had gone really dark now

whats bad with minar-e-pakistan? i think its unique, elegant and has been the icon of pakistan for the last many decades.
In that case we have a very shitty icon. A shameful one. But to be honest, I'm sure it's not an icon. I don't think anyone recognizes it outside of Pakistan.

If not minar-e-pakistan then what else we can present as icon?
Faisal Mosque? Mazar-e-Quid?

i think these days Guns, rocket launchers, Naqaab-poosh Pathans and Talibans are icons of Pakistan :ohno:

In that case we have a very shitty icon. A shameful one. But to be honest, I'm sure it's not an icon. I don't think anyone recognizes it outside of Pakistan.
BTW, minar-e-pakistan was built in memories of a historical day for which many people have emotional feelings, including me. so please avoid such comments.

Minar-e-Pakistan sucks ass. I wish I could fly a plane into it to rid Lahore of that monstrosity. Quaid's mausoleum is also pretty average looking, but at least not ugly.

It is good. Just need to be kept clean

http://www.uol.edu.pk/ipages/index_09.jpg

National Monument April 29, 2008

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National Monument April 29, 2008

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Wow... Is the Museum and Independence Plaza complete! Night time views of the Monuments are amazing

:applause:

COOOOL.. very nice place to spend an evening on weekend

oh my god.... what a beauti.... this thing is unbelievably classy specially at night...

Impressive photography Abid.... good work as always...!!

^^ sir the whole project is complete from 1.5 year from now.


Thanks abID for wondeful night time views of the monument.

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:applause:
The last pic is a nice capture.

:happy:


Excellent pictures guys! I love you guys! :hug:

no homo


GROUPHUG!

:grouphug:

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This is one of the finest place to visit in Islamabad

really rana gee . next time when i come i will definately visit this place

You turned your CAPS off! :happy:


:hug:

This is one of the finest place to visit in Islamabad

Yup, good thing Musharraf didn't listen to the opposition who were opposing it at the time and got this made.

Jo guzar gaya usay Bhool jaoo

“woh qaumain jo apna mazi bhool jati hain, tareekh un qaumon ko bhool jati hai”
;)

oye hue ...!!!

very beautiful pics. :okay:

jiyooo mere lal

I love Islamabad a.k.a The Beautiful

Wow man its impressive, Really mujhay pata bhi nahi chala yeh Monument kab Complete hua. Its really very nice.

Some recent pics of monument



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Awesome pics....:okay:

:okay::okay::okay: thanks!

Wow! Pretty! :happy:

Excellent pictures Faisal Mian! :yes:

Thanx BOOGA, Fortis N Rashid :)

thxs Faisal for updates
Islamabad view from National monument is breath taking.

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/Ahmadrashid/1109639f1ace89bcda03fbc05ddb710c.jpg

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/Ahmadrashid/51843b6b704986f910f75954ce4d91ed.jpg

^^ This is definitely not someone would like to see... No offence dude, but this is really an eye sore, "Nothing is better than this something"

i dont like it

i dont like it
what dont u like the monument or the last images :)

I don't like the design of the monument, specifically, this structure:
http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af238/faisalmoin/24062010115.jpg

Opinions truly are like assholes. :|

..and critics, like impaled rectums. ;)

You do realize that you are the critic here. :|

I dont understand why you dont like it. Its beautiful and well-maintained and such a sight for sore eyes!

No, I don't realize that.

The monument doesn't have any "Pakistani" trait in it; I don't see any reflection of Pakistan in the architecture. Also, it just looks like an ugly design.

What are you doing up so early anyways? I doubt praying Fajr is the reason.

No, I don't realize that.

The monument doesn't have any "Pakistani" trait in it; I don't see any reflection of Pakistan in the architecture. Also, it just looks like an ugly design.

What are you doing up so early anyways? I doubt praying Fajr is the reason.

HA! Booga 1 - BPS 0! :tongue3:

How does Minar-e-Pakistan have anything Pakistani in it? The only monument that looks somewhat Paki is the Quaids memorial and that too only because of the dome.

And as for being up, you are quite right senor! I was up studying. I function best at night, I'm a nocturnal creature. :colgate:

No, I don't realize that.

The monument doesn't have any "Pakistani" trait in it; I don't see any reflection of Pakistan in the architecture. Also, it just looks like an ugly design.

What are you doing up so early anyways? I doubt praying Fajr is the reason.

it has a full concept behind its design .. go ... search .. study .. and then comment!!!!!

.....and then get Booga a mocha frappacino


:colgate:

I don't like the design of the monument, specifically, this structure:


This has plenty of Pakistani style in it! If you look at it closely, it shows leaders and events of Pakistan history. And the structure it self has a masjids dome look!

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4656/pakistanmonumentislamab.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4017/4451585209_3bd452ffb0_o.jpg

Damn, That first pic is so beautiful. It would be much better if the surroundings are also built as good as it.. :)

V nice pictures KB............ Here is mine :)



http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx263/faisalmoin1/IMG_0886.jpg

very nice i made it my desktop background :)

nice work faisal bahi

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