Right, It took my 3hrs of non stop work to make this thread.

Enjoy....


Wembley Stadium - 90,000

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Wembley Stadium is one of the world's most famous football stadiums, being the English national football ground since 1923.
The new design is for an all-seated capacity of 90,000 protected from the elements by a sliding roof. The stadium's signature feature will be a circular section lattic arch of 7 metre internal diameter with a 315 metre span, erected some 22° off true, and rising to 133 metres tall.

Twickenham Stadium - 82,000

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Twickenham Stadium, located in the Twickenham district of the London Borough of Richmond upon Thames, is currently the largest completed stadium in the United Kingdom with a capacity of 75,000.
The South Stand is currently being redeveloped to increase capacity to 82,000. It is the home of England's Rugby Football Union, and as such primarily a venue for rugby union and hosts England's home test matches.

Old Trafford Stadium – 76,000

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Old Trafford Football Stadium (given the nickname The Theatre of Dreams by Bobby Charlton) is the home of Manchester United F.C., one of the most famous football clubs in the world.
Work has commenced to expand this to around 76,000 by the 2006-07 season with the building of 2 new corner stands.

Millennium Stadium – 74,500

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The Millennium Stadium (Welsh: Stadiwm y Mileniwm) in Cardiff is the national stadium of Wales, used primarily for rugby union and football.

Murrayfield – 67,500

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http://sacamalix.canalblog.com/Leith_100___Murrayfield.jpg

Murrayfield Stadium in Edinburgh (capacity 67,500) is the home of Scottish Rugby and a name known throughout the rugby world. Apart from rugby, it sometimes hosts football games, American football etc.

Celtic Park – 61,000

http://www.posterspark.com/image/gazour/s0045r.jpg

Celtic Park is a football stadium in Parkhead, Glasgow, Scotland. It is the home ground of Celtic Football Club. The all-seater stadium is also known as 'Parkhead' and nicknamed 'Paradise' by Celtic fans.

The Emirates Stadium – 60,000

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The Emirates Stadium is a football stadium, being built for Arsenal Football Club in Ashburton Grove, Islington, north London, England.
The stadium is scheduled to open in the summer of 2006, and will have an all-seated capacity of 60,000, making it the second biggest stadium in the Premiership after Old Trafford and the third biggest stadium in London.

Hampden Park – 52,500

http://www.glasgowguide.org/ims-tns/Hampden_Park%201.jpg

Hampden Park in Glasgow, Scotland is home to Queen's Park F.C. and the Scottish national football team. 'Hampden' is one of the homes of football and celebrated its centenary on October 31, 2003. The stadium also houses the offices of the Scottish Football Association.

St James’ Park – 52,350

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St James' Park is a 52,387 capacity all-seater football stadium in Newcastle upon Tyne, England and is the home of Newcastle United F.C.

Ibrox Stadium – 51,300*

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Ibrox Stadium, originally Ibrox Park, is the stadium of Rangers F.C. It is located on the south side of the River Clyde in the Ibrox district of Glasgow.
The site of Ibrox Park has been the home of Rangers since 1899.
*Come Sep 2006

The Stadium of Light – 48,300

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The Stadium of Light is a Football stadium, the home of Sunderland A.F.C., in North East England. The stadium featured in a UEFA list of the top ten stadia in Europe.

The City of Manchester Stadium – 48,000

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Built for the 2002 Commonwealth Games, the City of Manchester Stadium (also known as COMS, Eastlands and Sportcity) is located in Manchester, England. It is a 48,000 capacity all seater stadium with two tiers all the way round the ground and third tiers to the two side stands. It cost £90 million to construct.

Anfield Stadium – 45,360

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Anfield is a football stadium in the district of Anfield, in Liverpool, England. It is the home of Liverpool F.C.
The stadium was built in 1884 on land adjacent to Stanley Park, and was originally inhabited by Everton F.C. They were founder members of the Football League in 1888, but left the ground in 1892 over a rent dispute, and moved into the newly-built Goodison Park, less than a mile away. Anfield's owner, John Houlding, decided to form a new club to play at the ground, which became Liverpool.

Villa Park – 42,575

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Villa Park, in Birmingham, England; is the stadium at which Aston Villa Football Club play their home games.

Stamford Bridge – 42,450

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The stadium was opened in 1877, and was used as an athletics track until 1904, when it was acquired by new owners who wanted to attract a professional football club. It was initially offered to Fulham, but they turned it down. Instead, Chelsea was formed as a new club and were given entry to The Football League for the 1905-06 season.
The capacity was originally planned to be 100,000, making it the second largest ground in England after Crystal Palace, the FA Cup final venue. Stamford Bridge itself hosted the cup final for the first three years after the First World War from 1920 to 1922, after which it was replaced by Wembley.

Goodison Park – 40,570

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Goodison Park is the home ground of Everton F.C. in Liverpool. It has a total capacity of 40,103 all-seated. Built in 1892, it is one of the oldest football grounds in the world and was the first major football stadium in England and is nicknamed the Grand Old Lady. It was the first British sports ground ever to have double-decker stands on all 4 sides and the first to have a 3 tier stand. It was also the first English league ground to have undersoil heating. In 1913 it became the first English football ground to be visited by a ruling monarch, King George V.

Elland Road Stadium – 40,250

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Elland Road is the home stadium of the football team Leeds United. It has recently been sold by the club in a 25-year sale-lease back deal with a commercial buy-back provision for when the club’s finances improve.
The most recent stand at Elland Road is the East Stand, a huge cantilever structure which was completed during the 1992-93 season and holds 17,000 seated spectators, the largest such cantilever in the world.

Hillsborough Stadium – 39,860

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/yorkshire_humber/sheffield_hillsborough2.jpg

Hillsborough Stadium is the home of Sheffield Wednesday Football Club in Sheffield, England. Association Football has been played at the ground since the first pitch was laid in 1899, when Wednesday moved from their original ground at Olive Grove.
Today it is a 39,859 all-seater stadium, with the majority of the seats covered. Hillsborough is named after the area of Sheffield in which it stands.

White Hart Lane – 36,215

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White Hart Lane is the home of Tottenham Hotspur F.C. It is situated in Tottenham, North London and has a capacity of 36,240. Supporters often refer to the ground as The Lane.

Upton Park - 35,650

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The Boleyn Ground (upton Park) is the official name of the football stadium of West Ham United. The club moved to the location in 1904 and rented ground from the London District of Upton Park who were using Green Street House as a school.

Note: I Have rounded up and down some of the capacities to make a nice round number.


Thanks to…

www.thestadiumguide.com
www.wikipedia.com
edennewstairs
ScouserDave

Bloody Hell - very impressive mate. Well done :okay:

Excellent list. Nice one! :cheers:

Come on Bramall Lane, we can get up there!

Guess I could take Highbury off the list now.

You should also update OT now that the quads are completed!

does anyone have pics of the manchester city stadium during the commies and after the commies...did they include another row or two or ten of seating?

The pitch level was lowered by around 10 metres or something like that and the bottom tier was built where the athletics track was.

http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/stadiums/manchester_football.htm

City spent about £50 milion which they didnt have finishing off the ground to redo the end which was wood and then they added loads of rows around the ground.

Has Twickenham ever hosted a football match in its history? Or has it always been Rugby?

We're really starting to build up an impressive stadium portfolio :)

The pitch level was lowered by around 10 metres or something like that and the bottom tier was built where the athletics track was.

http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/stadiums/manchester_football.htm

10 metres?!?!?! yikes!

6m actually

Show off this thread in the World Forums section - there must be hundreds of forumers who don't know about some of these stadiums.

Has Twickenham ever hosted a football match in its history? Or has it always been Rugby?

Yes to both questions.

pedantic?

CharlieP, I know how much you love to call Rugby football...football.

So in answering London_Guys question....are you on about Rugby or Soccer Football?

Association Football

Great list. The quality of British stadia is pretty high.
Two Problems though;
1) That awful running track at Hampden. Te guys in the end stands (which are pretty shallow anyway) must get a shite vie.
2) The number of remaining shed stadiums. Hillsborough, Villa Park (Can't believe it still hosts Cup semi-finals) and the majority of Elland Road.

That aside, we do have enough great stadia for a good world cup. The only problem being that so many of the host stadia would be located in the same city as each other. Germany 06 has 12 stadia (each in a seperate city) whereas we (England) would have 3 or so in London, 2 in Manchester and probably 2 in Liverpool (including Stanley Park). For a World Cup we would need to improve the quality of stadia in Birmingham (Dome anyone?) as you could not imagine the second city not hosting a game. We would find it a lot easier if we had a Great Britain team as we could use Millenium Stadium and Edinburgh/Glasgow. This would spread out the geography of the stadia ala Germany and get to use these brilliant venues. At present FIFA would never allow 3 teams to enter the cup without qualifying.

Sorry about the rant. GOOD WORK EDDYK

1) That awful running track at Hampden.

There has never been a running track at Hampden - it just has curved ends due to the way it was originally built...

Germany 06 has 12 stadia (each in a seperate city) whereas we (England) would have 3 or so in London, 2 in Manchester and probably 2 in Liverpool (including Stanley Park).

No, because FIFA don't allow more than two stadia in any one city, and only allow a maximum of two cities to have more than one stadium.

Very impressive. Given Chelsea's stature now are there any plans to increase capacity at Stamford Bridge or maybe even build a new stadium?

How come man utd got a - they are one of the biggest clubs in the world and Liverpool never hhhhhmmmm 5 times :) sorry couldn't help meself - 18 times sorry cudn't help meself :)

Very impressive. Given Chelsea's stature now are there any plans to increase capacity at Stamford Bridge or maybe even build a new stadium?

that would be interesting. Knowing all the billions they have they could buy the best bloody stadium ever!!!

anyway great thread although you put ibrox in the wrong place! it should be a couple below, unless you got the number wrong for it.

Ah yes, thank's for telling me.

I spoke to someone in charge of one of the running at one of the stands at Stamford Bridge and he says expansion is being considered but it's very difficult because of the railway, graveyards, houses etc. around the stadium. Earlier plans for a move to Earl's Court have been shelved.

Sorry guys but I think you are honestly talking pie in the sky if you think Ibrox should be below the Stadium of light and Hampden. Whilst I have no affection for Rangers of Celtic there is no doubt Ibrox is one of the best stadia in the UK after Wem, Twk, Mill, Murr, and Emrts, It is one of only four UK stadia to have five star eufa status and is a simply awsome place when you are inside.

Sure the stands are not good looking from the outside but due to their renovations and specifications the stadium is unmatched in club football in the UK save Man U and Arsenal (in four months or so).

Ibrox is way ahead of Old Trafford and light years ahead of Hampden and the Stadium Of Light. Twickenham should not be classed as a football stadium as it has never held a football match.

I'd put Ibrox below Old Trafford but certainly above Hampden and the Stadium of Light.

Ibrox is way ahead of Old Trafford and light years ahead of Hampden and the Stadium Of Light. Twickenham should not be classed as a football stadium as it has never held a football match.
:lol: Your very funny.

:lol: Your very funny.


Ibrox is miles ahead of Old Trafford from design to interior quality. The only thing Old Trafford has going for it is size, in terms of architecture and style it's a total disaster (even the new corners look awful), and is one of the most unbalanced looking stadiums in the UK due to the pathetic main stand. The most overrated stadium in the UK. I mean, just look at the state of the place, it's big but it's also crap -

http://stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/england/old_trafford/140.jpg

http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/ENG/Old_Trafford5.jpg

http://www.kampfleecher.de/wupperhopper/OldTrafford4.jpg

http://stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/england/old_trafford/370.jpg

funny bubomb that you only posted those Pics, Ibrox is just so bog-standard looking nothing special, Ot is however awe inspiring amd intimidating

[QUOTE=Boy George]Ibrox is miles ahead of Old Trafford from design to interior quality. The only thing Old Trafford has going for it is size, in terms of architecture and style it's a total disaster (even the new corners look awful), and is one of the most unbalanced looking stadiums in the UK due to the pathetic main stand. The most overrated stadium in the UK. I mean, just look at the state of the place, it's big but it's also crap -

Ibrox ahead of OT ! What planet are you on son? Unbalanced stadium explain? OT will be seemless when the latest expansion is completed and already has far more modern and superior facilities than the embarrassing dated midden that is Ibrox.

OT is instantly recognizable and is a design classic on the other hand Ibrox is bland and could be mistaken several other medium sized stadiums.

One can only assume from your comments regarding OT that you are a teenage school child.:wave:

Ibrox is miles ahead of Old Trafford from design to interior quality. The only thing Old Trafford has going for it is size, in terms of architecture and style it's a total disaster (even the new corners look awful), and is one of the most unbalanced looking stadiums in the UK due to the pathetic main stand. The most overrated stadium in the UK. I mean, just look at the state of the place, it's big but it's also crap -

http://stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/england/old_trafford/140.jpg

http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/ENG/Old_Trafford5.jpg

http://www.kampfleecher.de/wupperhopper/OldTrafford4.jpg

http://stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/england/old_trafford/370.jpg
Please stop it your killing me. :hahaha:

[QUOTE=Boy George]Ibrox is miles ahead of Old Trafford from design to interior quality. The only thing Old Trafford has going for it is size, in terms of architecture and style it's a total disaster (even the new corners look awful), and is one of the most unbalanced looking stadiums in the UK due to the pathetic main stand. The most overrated stadium in the UK. I mean, just look at the state of the place, it's big but it's also crap -

Ibrox ahead of OT ! What planet are you on son? Unbalanced stadium explain? OT will be seemless when the latest expansion is completed and already has far more modern and superior facilities than the embarrassing dated midden that is Ibrox.

OT is instantly recognizable and is a design classic on the other hand Ibrox is bland and could be mistaken several other medium sized stadiums.

One can only assume from your comments regarding OT that you are a teenage school child.:wave:


Seamless!!...yes, very seamless :lol: It looks like it's been designed by a junkie!!! The main stand is less than half the height of the other 3 and the new corners are all over the place!! It's a modern day disaster....a bit like Manchester to be honest!!

http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/ENG/Old_Trafford5.jpg

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9649/oldtrafford41fe.jpg


Considering Ibrox is the 5th biggest UK club stadium, then I very much doubt you can class it as a 'medium' sized stadium. 51500 is not 'medium' sized!! How many stadiums in the UK have a historic 3 tiered main stand with the grandest interiors/facade in Europe? Just look at this gem of a stadium.....beautiful -

http://www.icons.com/images/biog/albertz/ibrox.jpg


I'm not going to argue with you, as it is laughable to compare Old Trafford to Ibrox. It's quality that counts, not quantity!! Ibrox is a Jaguar E-type of a stadium, Old Trafford is a big Volvo Estate!! Having been to both, Ibrox is in a different league.

Whats wrong with you guys. Both stadiums are bloody awesome. OT is indeed awe inspiring due to its huge size and should in a few years time be completed as a beautiful bowl. So what if its not 'seemless' and it certainly is not. Its an example of a very common thing in British stadia. That being where the ground evolves over time with certain stands being renovated before others (just look as St. James park) As for my fellow mancs slating Ibrox i think you also need your heads checking. Have you guys actually seen the main stand facade? And that 3 tier beauty?

Both grounds are quality and rightly command 5 star status.

I spoke to someone in charge of one of the running at one of the stands at Stamford Bridge and he says expansion is being considered but it's very difficult because of the railway, graveyards, houses etc. around the stadium. Earlier plans for a move to Earl's Court have been shelved.

The only area Chelsea could expand is the shit one tier where the shed end used to be with the hotel attached which could bump up the total by around 5,000.

The biggest problem Chelsea have got, other than having very limited space to expand is that the locals nimbys would get the council to not approve any expansion plans...especialy as the local nimbys are very rich buggers indeed.

OT is at the moment the best club stadia in the UK, when Emirates is finished that will be the best, but personal favourite is still OT

Seamless!!...yes, very seamless :lol: It looks like it's been designed by a junkie!!! The main stand is less than half the height of the other 3 and the new corners are all over the place!! It's a modern day disaster....a bit like Manchester to be honest!!


Considering Ibrox is the 5th biggest UK club stadium, then I very much doubt you can class it as a 'medium' sized stadium. 51500 is not 'medium' sized!! How many stadiums in the UK have a historic 3 tiered main stand with the grandest interiors/facade in Europe? Just look at this gem of a stadium.....beautiful -

I'm not going to argue with you, as it is laughable to compare Old Trafford to Ibrox. It's quality that counts, not quantity!! Ibrox is a Jaguar E-type of a stadium, Old Trafford is a big Volvo Estate!! Having been to both, Ibrox is in a different league.

Another deluded Scotsman, 51,000 is medium sized when compared with giants such as OT's 76,000.We fill OT, Ibrox on the other hand is rarely full due to Rangers being a much smaller and poorer club than Man U. 51,000 is more than enough for a medium sized club like Rangers.

SO OT is not completely seemless but neither is the Nou Camp but that does not detract from either being classics and instantly recognisable thoughout the world, Ibrox on the other hand looks old and boxy and is clone of various small to medium sized stadiums throughout the world, there are less joins at Ibrox but it is a far smaller stadium than OT with little character and it looks so dated.

When you said Rangers were in a different league than Man U you were correct, Man U play in probably the best league in the world, Rangers on the other hand play in probably one of the worst.

Face up to facts son, Rangers might be big in Scotland but Rangers and the medium sized Ibrox are playing in the little league when compared to the world famous Man U and OT!

Don't try and slate the city of Manchester, I think Glasgow is a good city but again is playing in the little leagues compared to the development in Manchester. You amateur! :wave:

Another deluded Scotsman, 51,000 is medium sized when compared with giants such as OT's 76,000.We fill OT, Ibrox on the other hand is rarely full due to Rangers being a much smaller and poorer club than Man U. 51,000 is more than enough for a medium sized club like Rangers.

SO OT is not completely seemless but neither is the Nou Camp but that does not detract from either being classics and instantly recognisable thoughout the world, Ibrox on the other hand looks old and boxy and is clone of various small to medium sized stadiums throughout the world, there are less joins at Ibrox but it is a far smaller stadium than OT with little character and it looks so dated.

When you said Rangers were in a different league than Man U you were correct, Man U play in probably the best league in the world, Rangers on the other hand play in probably one of the worst.

Face up to facts son, Rangers might be big in Scotland but Rangers and the medium sized Ibrox are playing in the little league when compared to the world famous Man U and OT!

Don't try and slate the city of Manchester, I think Glasgow is a good city but again is playing in the little leagues compared to the development in Manchester. You amateur! :wave:


What an idiot you are!!! How can Ibrox be a clone when one stand was built in 1920 and the other 3 were built in the late 70's/early 80's, and revolutionised British stadiums!! The stadium has constantly been updated/upgraded since then (including a major main stand refurbishment), which is why it still looks amazing today! The Taylor Report recommended Ibrox as a model for all British clubs to follow, so Ibrox cannot be a 'clone' of any other British stadium, as Ibrox set out the future path for most British stadiums.

Ibrox was sold out for 95% of league games last season. Amazing when you consider Rangers came 3rd and play in a small league. If Man United played in a league the size of the Scottish league and played teams like Livingston every week, you would get nowhere near 50000 as your average attendance. If Rangers played in a league the size of the Premiership, Rangers would get 100000 every week easily. Rangers sold 650000 strips in Scotland alone, and have the 2nd highest figure in the UK (only slightly behind Man United). Just imagine what they would sell if they played in a huge league like the Premiership!!

You really are a spastic!! How can a club that sells the 2nd highest number of strips in the UK, averages 50000 as their home attendance in a small league, and takes at least 10000 to every single away game in Europe (20000 to Villareal and 14000 to Derby for a friendly!!!), be classed as a 'medium' sized club????

As for your league being the 'best' in the world??? Sorry, it is rated 3rd in Europe by UEFA/FIFA, and the Scottish league is rated 11th, which is amazing for a country of 5 million people!!

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/crank2006.html


Jog on muppet, your club is now playing 2nd fiddle to Chelsea for at least the next 10 years. You had your fun, now it's back to being a nothing club for 10 years!!

Why am I even talking to you??? Your club is now an American franchise, you are not even a football club anymore!! You are a product, not a club!! I will chat with Chelsea, Liverpool, Bolton, Wolves etc fans, but you support something no better than a NFL team!!! ......Pathetic!! Your club sold its soul and now you are more to be pitied!! Nothing more than a money making franchise product......like a DVD to be mass produced in a Chinese factory!! See Ya loser :wave:

The only area Chelsea could expand is the shit one tier where the shed end used to be with the hotel attached which could bump up the total by around 5,000.

The biggest problem Chelsea have got, other than having very limited space to expand is that the locals nimbys would get the council to not approve any expansion plans...especialy as the local nimbys are very rich buggers indeed.
The other problem is they cant fill their current ground for most games. Apart for the big games its never full.

The other problem is they cant fill their current ground for most games. Apart for the big games its never full.


Wrong again pea-brain!!


http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/current/aveeng.htm


These Man United fans don't know much about football do they???

What an idiot you are!!! How can Ibrox be a clone when one stand was built in 1920 and the other 3 were built in the late 70's/early 80's, and revolutionised British stadiums!! The stadium has constantly been updated/upgraded since then (including a major main stand refurbishment), which is why it still looks amazing today! The Taylor Report recommended Ibrox as a model for all British clubs to follow, so Ibrox cannot be a 'clone' of any other British stadium, as Ibrox set out the future path for most British stadiums.

Ibrox was sold out for 95% of league games last season. Amazing when you consider Rangers came 3rd and play in a small league. If Man United played in a league the size of the Scottish league and played teams like Livingston every week, you would get nowhere near 50000 as your average attendance. If Rangers played in a league the size of the Premiership, Rangers would get 100000 every week easily. Rangers sold 650000 strips in Scotland alone, and have the 2nd highest figure in the UK (only slightly behind Man United). Just imagine what they would sell if they played in a huge league like the Premiership!!

You really are a spastic!! How can a club that sells the 2nd highest number of strips in the UK, averages 50000 as their home attendance in a small league, and takes at least 10000 to every single away game in Europe (20000 to Villareal and 14000 to Derby for a friendly!!!), be classed as a 'medium' sized club????

As for your league being the 'best' in the world??? Sorry, it is rated 3rd in Europe by UEFA/FIFA, and the Scottish league is rated 11th, which is amazing for a country of 5 million people!!

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/crank2006.html


Jog on muppet, your club is now playing 2nd fiddle to Chelsea for at least the next 10 years. You had your fun, now it's back to being a nothing club for 10 years!!

Why am I even talking to you??? Your club is now an American franchise, you are not even a football club anymore!! You are a product, not a club!! I will chat with Chelsea, Liverpool, Bolton, Wolves etc fans, but you support something no better than a NFL team!!! ......Pathetic!! Your club sold its soul and now you are more to be pitied!! Nothing more than a money making franchise product......like a DVD to be mass produced in a Chinese factory!! See Ya loser :wave:
Your saying United wouldnt Average 50,000 every week if we played Livingston? I think we would. We play little clubs like Sunderland and Wigan and get 72,000. Shhhhhhh Be quite. Also United sold over 50,000 season tickets last year and its going to more like 60,000 this year.

Also who the fuck are you? You support a little club up in Scotland, you would die in Premier League. Remember the other year when United went to Ibrox and won 3:0. Have you ever won the European Cup? No.

Also we arnt Second fiddle to Chelsea, we are the only club in the English League who can even challenge them. They are Second fiddle to us because we have been the biggest club in England for ages and we still are. They have all that money and have only won the League. We won the Real double afew times and then the Real Treble.

Also what Leagues are better then the English Leagues? Italian? I dont think so, they have more debt and cheating going than all the other leagues in the world. Spanish? They only have two big clubs. Real and Barca. In England you have United, Arsenal, Liverpool and now Chelsea for afew years(in 20 years they wont be very big).

Wrong again pea-brain!!


http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/current/aveeng.htm


These Man United fans don't know much about football do they???
Chelsea cant fill there ground fact. Against Everton they only had 39,000 in and against Birmingham City they only had 40,000 in. The nearly all the other games they get just over 41,000.

That's not true. I'm a member and it's difficult to get seats for big games. Non-members can't get seats at all for most games. Abramovich wants a 60,000 seater.

Chelsea cant fill there ground fact. Against Everton they only had 39,000 in and against Birmingham City they only had 40,000 in. The nearly all the other games they get just over 41,000.

As a percentage of their highest possible attendance (taking into account segregation), Chelsea's average is the same as Man United, Arsenal, Spurs etc!! So they sold out just as much as all those clubs! Before you reply with another braindead comment, slow down and try and work out what i'm actually saying! Get your dad to help you with the big sums.

http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/current/aveeng.htm

You are actually comparing Premiership teams like Sunderland and Wigan to Livingston!!! Livingston averaged under 5000 last season!!!!! Sunderland and Wigan are absolutely massive compared to a club like Livingston! Seriously, were you dropped on your head as a baby?

You won 1:0 at Ibrox, not 3:0!!! What kind of a supporter are you??? Face facts son, you know fuck all about football. You sound like you are about 18 years old!!

Of course you will have a much better team than Rangers due to the massive differences in money between the two leagues. If Rangers joined the Premiership, their turnover would increase ten-fold and they would buy much better players!

Do any real football fans want to chat about football? as these Manchester half-wits are as thick as pig shit!!

You sound like you are about 18 years old!! Ironic. That would be because he is... Any negative comment attributed to age should go towards you. I don't agree with him but at least he can string a sentence together without being insulting.

Ironic. That would be because he is... Any negative comment attributed to age should go towards you. I don't agree with him but at least he can string a sentence together without being insulting.


who the fuck are you?

Thats bubomb for you, he hates Manchester UTD, OT England and everything else that goes with it

I do hate OT, but only because it's a poor stadium in my opinion. I also hate Bolton, but I love their stadium!

"I do hate OT, but only because it's a poor stadium in my opinion. I also hate Bolton, but I love their stadium!"

How is Old Trafford a poor stadium!!!? Fair enough that's your opinion, but in my opinion that's the most rediculous statement i've ever heard, fair enough as a United fan who has been in the Stretford End many a time i have to admit facilities are not fantastic. Even so how can you compare a bland, non-atmospheric stadium (not in terms of just sound, but sterile'ness) to one of the greatest stadiums in the world. I hate these new bland as f**k stadiums, they really get my goat!!! Give me Fratton Park rather than St. Mary's any day, i'm sure any true football fan would feel the same. Also at the Reebok Stadium (what a great name!!?) you sit quite a distance from the pitch as with a lot of new stadiums, the noise just doesn't travel as well. Anyone who says Old Trafford isn't a good stadium isn't being honest with themselves! I hate Chelsea but i admit it is an excellent stadium, as was Highbury. When all the grounds of yester year have been demolished and turned into Tesco's or new 'affordable' housing, with new ones miles outside of town and more sterile than a hospital ward then you'll realise you were wrong!

How can a personal opinion on a stadium be 'wrong'??? You either like it or you don't, there is no right or wrong.

In my opinion OT looks daft because the main stand if less than half the height of the others, the 3 new stands are ruined by stupid looking roofs (in my opinion, don't cry about it), the new corners are a joke and are all over the place, there is nothing historic about any of the stands, facades or interiors as they are all just bigger versions of modern stands found at any other ground and have zero architectural value. The main stand is shit both inside and on the outside, the facilities are average throughout the stadium, the seats are cramped, the location is shit, they have tacky lettering on the seats and the whole thing adds up to one big shite stadium.

This is just my opinion, don't turn on the water works over it. Others might think it's amazing, although I suspect most of them will be Man United fans!!

What an idiot you are!!! How can Ibrox be a clone when one stand was built in 1920 and the other 3 were built in the late 70's/early 80's, and revolutionised British stadiums!! The stadium has constantly been updated/upgraded since then (including a major main stand refurbishment), which is why it still looks amazing today! The Taylor Report recommended Ibrox as a model for all British clubs to follow, so Ibrox cannot be a 'clone' of any other British stadium, as Ibrox set out the future path for most British stadiums.

Ibrox was sold out for 95% of league games last season. Amazing when you consider Rangers came 3rd and play in a small league. If Man United played in a league the size of the Scottish league and played teams like Livingston every week, you would get nowhere near 50000 as your average attendance. If Rangers played in a league the size of the Premiership, Rangers would get 100000 every week easily. Rangers sold 650000 strips in Scotland alone, and have the 2nd highest figure in the UK (only slightly behind Man United). Just imagine what they would sell if they played in a huge league like the Premiership!!

You really are a spastic!! How can a club that sells the 2nd highest number of strips in the UK, averages 50000 as their home attendance in a small league, and takes at least 10000 to every single away game in Europe (20000 to Villareal and 14000 to Derby for a friendly!!!), be classed as a 'medium' sized club????

As for your league being the 'best' in the world??? Sorry, it is rated 3rd in Europe by UEFA/FIFA, and the Scottish league is rated 11th, which is amazing for a country of 5 million people!!

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/crank2006.html


Jog on muppet, your club is now playing 2nd fiddle to Chelsea for at least the next 10 years. You had your fun, now it's back to being a nothing club for 10 years!!

Why am I even talking to you??? Your club is now an American franchise, you are not even a football club anymore!! You are a product, not a club!! I will chat with Chelsea, Liverpool, Bolton, Wolves etc fans, but you support something no better than a NFL team!!! ......Pathetic!! Your club sold its soul and now you are more to be pitied!! Nothing more than a money making franchise product......like a DVD to be mass produced in a Chinese factory!! See Ya loser :wave:

I was beginning to wonder why I hardly ever visit the Sports threads these days.

One look at this thread, and particularly this post, reminds me that they all invariably descend into childish bickering. I'll probably spend my time on more productive pursuits in future, like picking winnits from my arse hair.

How can a personal opinion on a stadium be 'wrong'??? You either like it or you don't, there is no right or wrong.

In my opinion OT looks daft because the main stand if less than half the height of the others, the 3 new stands are ruined by stupid looking roofs (in my opinion, don't cry about it), the new corners are a joke and are all over the place, there is nothing historic about any of the stands, facades or interiors as they are all just bigger versions of modern stands found at any other ground and have zero architectural value. The main stand is shit both inside and on the outside, the facilities are average throughout the stadium, the seats are cramped, the location is shit, they have tacky lettering on the seats and the whole thing adds up to one big shite stadium.

This is just my opinion, don't turn on the water works over it. Others might think it's amazing, although I suspect most of them will be Man United fans!!

Thankyou for clearing that up for me, Ibrox is amazing and Old Trafford is shit, i get it now. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, i'll just get back to my crying (???).

No probs!!

Ok lets agree to disagree you continue to dislike OT and I will still believe Ibrox is a boring clone of several of the worlds small to medium sized stadiums. :laugh:

how can you call sunderland a small time club?? i understand wigan....they have no fans!!!

Mod, can you please delete every post made by bubomb (boil_my_eggs) in this thread.

Cheers....if ya do it.

Mods, can you please tell eddyk to suck my fat one?

Cheers....if ya do it.

Lets be honest here guys. You have all been a bunch of immature arseholes.
FACE FACTS (not opinions because they can be wrong - look at Hitler)
-In reality OT is massive and intimidating (does not have to be pretty/seamless)
-In reality IBROX is a grand old stadium and how anyone can call it a clone is beyond me

Lets be honest here guys. You have all been a bunch of immature arseholes.
FACE FACTS (not opinions because they can be wrong - look at Hitler)
-In reality OT is massive and intimidating (does not have to be pretty/seamless)
-In reality IBROX is a grand old stadium and how anyone can call it a clone is beyond me

1.Partly True
2.True
3.Very True (look also at Dortmund, another messy stadium but perhaps the most intimidating in Europe
4.Very much agree, the goal post stands with offices were the first large scale all seatered stands, the video screen sides are quite unique and the main stand is amongst the grandest and best in the World!

Everton offered move to Kirkby May 31 2006


EXCLUSIVE by Sam Lister Daily Post Staff

KNOWSLEY council has offered Everton FC three prime development sites on which to build a new stadium.
Executives at the local authority are involved in a sustained attempt to tempt the club out of Liverpool to the Kirkby area.

Kirkby's municipal golf course is one of the sites the club have been offered, along with nearby land next to Kirkby sports centre on Valley Road, both close to motorway access from the M57.

It is believed Knowsley would provide the land needed either free or at a much reduced rate, so keen are they to attract a prestige deal which would prove a massive boost to the area's economy and reputation.

Cheap land and the possibility of the council accessing regeneration grants for work in and around the new stadium will be a major inducement for Everton, with the financing of the project still a major hurdle for the club to overcome.


Last night, a spokesman for Everton confirmed: "There are talks ongoing. We have a number of options." It is believed the former Cronton Colliery had also been put forward initially, but was dismissed.
The club is now considering using that plot for a new training academy for coaches, if it can secure the finances once their stadium plans have been finalised.


The Everton board has been approached with a number of sites since the collapse of the Kings Dock project in February, 2003.
Other options include land at Switch Island and a site in Speke.

A spokeswoman for Knowsley council said: "The council understands Kirkby is one of a number of options being considered by Everton FC at this stage."
Liverpool Council is keen to ensure the club stays in the city and officials are sure to be busy working behind the scenes to try to match any deals offered by its neighbouring local authority.

The club has still not officially committed itself to leaving Goodison Park, its home since 1892, but will make a formal announcement this summer.

Officials insist it is still considering plans for redeveloping the current ground or ground-sharing with Liverpool FC, although these are both now highly unlikely options.

Late last year, chief executive Keith Wyness was in talks with financial experts about funding a 50,000-capacity stadium costing around £125m.

Everton's financial position has improved in the past 12 months, giving Mr Wyness renewed confidence that a new stadium is again a valid option.

In November, Everton announced the best financial results in the club's 127-year history. Turnover rose by 34% from £44.7m last year to £60m.

Everton secured a place in the Deloitte and Touche top 20 world club rich-list for the first time, and finishing fourth in the Premiership brought a greater slice of prize money, with greater revenue from live televised games.
Profit after player trading showed a turnaround of £38.9m, from a loss of £15.4m to a profit of £23.5m.

We'll fight to keep Blues in our cityMay 31 2006


By Nick Coligan & Sam Lister, Liverpool Echo

COUNCIL leader Warren Bradley today vowed to "fight tooth and nail" to stop Everton FC leaving Liverpool.

Experts have been sent out by the council to scour the city for potential sites for a new stadium, after it emerged Knowsley was offering the club three possible plots including land next to Kirkby sports centre in Valley Road.

Reports that Kirkby municipal golf course - owned by Liverpool council - was also being offered to Everton were today denied by Knowsley chiefs.

It is thought the Knowsley offers would see the space being provided free or cheaply to attract the club.

But Liverpool council is desperate to come up with its own sites within the city boundaries, and has not ruled out resurrecting a ground-share with Liverpool FC. The Reds have repeatedly said that is not an option.

Cllr Bradley, an Everton season ticket holder, said: "We have got land development services looking at available sites in the city, in south as well as north Liverpool.

"Everton chief executive Keith Wyness knows we are doing that and has not told me that they have plans to move anywhere else.

"We have also not yet discounted a joint stadium because Liverpool have not yet given a definite 'yes' to the new Anfield, and if there is a change of hierarchy, it could be back on the agenda.

"If Everton did leave, the knock-on effect would really be felt in Walton."

Labour opposition leader Joe Anderson, also a Blue, added: "The council must be more proactive and talk to neighbouring authorities to see if we can broker some sort of deal."

Speculation about Everton's future at Goodison Park has been rife since a plan for a waterfront stadium at Kings Dock collapsed more than three years ago.

The ECHO revealed last year that a site off Switch Island, Netherton, was also being considered by the club, while Liverpool's Central Docks have also been mentioned.

An Everton spokesman said: "There are talks ongoing. We have a number of options."

Wow, so all you gotta do to get prime land in a city centre is threaten to move elsewhere, and you have two councils fighting to give up their land! Knowsley want to give Everton the land for free, will Liverpool CC pay themto stay?

I doubt it, but both stories were released within hours of each other, so you never know...

Don't forget Peel Holdings also own land in Sefton, as do Everton (Netherton).

Could be a three way battle and a very cushy offer in the making for the Toffees. :)

Is there a Shed end at Villa Park, I think there is one cantilever stand, Trinity Road Grandstand. The other three are are fairly modern Goal post type. The oldest end was built circa 1979? or so. with two rows of executive and a double decker seating tier design, hardly a 'Shed' end. And I'm not even a Villian! Leeds United has a few fairly old stands now with propped roof construction. Goodison is obviuosly completly outdated and difficult to improve athe moment due to space and lack of money.

In the next few years I can see Liverpool, Everton, Leeds and possibly Chelsea all building new stadiums of their own or updating their current ones.

:cheers:

I would like to see Chelsea get a new ground. With Abramaovich paying it should be nice. With all the talk about Chelsea fans unable to fill Stamford Bridge it is no suprise when the stupid directors charge far too much for even the most meaningless games.

Great list. The quality of British stadia is pretty high.
Two Problems though;
1) That awful running track at Hampden. Te guys in the end stands (which are pretty shallow anyway) must get a shite vie.
2) The number of remaining shed stadiums. Hillsborough, Villa Park (Can't believe it still hosts Cup semi-finals) and the majority of Elland Road.

That aside, we do have enough great stadia for a good world cup. The only problem being that so many of the host stadia would be located in the same city as each other. Germany 06 has 12 stadia (each in a seperate city) whereas we (England) would have 3 or so in London, 2 in Manchester and probably 2 in Liverpool (including Stanley Park). For a World Cup we would need to improve the quality of stadia in Birmingham (Dome anyone?) as you could not imagine the second city not hosting a game. We would find it a lot easier if we had a Great Britain team as we could use Millenium Stadium and Edinburgh/Glasgow. This would spread out the geography of the stadia ala Germany and get to use these brilliant venues. At present FIFA would never allow 3 teams to enter the cup without qualifying.

Sorry about the rant. GOOD WORK EDDYK

FIFA have tried to force the four home nations to merge into a single UK national team before, and to their credit the respective FAs have stood their ground and doggedly refused to commit such a sacrilege. The reason, the first ever international football game was played between England and Scotland, the four countries of the UK existed as seperate football teams then because there was simply no-one else to play but eachother, this was before football took off in the rest of Europe and South America and long before FIFA ever came into being, so I think that this kind of history should be respected.

the problem with the World Cup and the geography of the stadia in England when compared to Germany is that England is a small country in terms of size so it cant be spread out as much as Germany. it is however probably the smallest country that can host a world cup by itself.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8481747517156447680

Dont u just love this

Tottenham need a much bigger capacity than the one they currently have. Spurs announced yesterday that they had sold all their season tickets and that there is a waiting list of 20,000! http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/seasonticketssoldout.html

In all Tottenham have 23,000 ST and they could have had not far off from double that. Spurs need a capacity of 55,000 at minimum at the moment (thats including away support and club members).

I think this might make Tottenham concentrate on the stadium issue a lot more. Last year Tottenham Chairman Daniel Levy told a fanzine

"Priority one is the first-team, priority two is the academy and the stadium has to be the third priority, because it's not under our control. I'm not hugely optimistic. We've put an enormous amount of effort into lobbying and drawing up plans, but it's not in our control"

I feel for Levy as he Knows Tottenham could nearly have 45,000 ST.

They'll move to the Olympic Stadium, mark my words.

They'll move to the Olympic Stadium, mark my words.

No f***ing way!

Tottenham fans know that Spurs belong in North London. Spurs were established in North London (and have stayed there ever since) and there is no way the fans will allow that to happen.

There has been plenty of talk lately about the club moving to the Olympic stadium but all the Spurs fans are just saying no!

White Hart Lane is a good stadium that has potiential to become a great one but all this bollox about there being horrible transport links has put back the plans. Rumour is the club know the transport is ok for 45,000 but won't go ahead as the club want to sell fancy flats. If you've been to Tottenham on a non-matchday you'll admit that it isn't the place to build fancy flats. A near by underground station would attract people to the area.

Blues choose Kirkby siteJun 15 2006

EXCLUSIVE by Nick Coligan, Liverpool Echo

A MULTI-MILLION pound plan to build a new Everton FC stadium in Kirkby is revealed today.

The club is in talks with Tesco and Knowsley council to build a 55,000-seater ground as the centre-piece of a massive development just outside the town centre.

The move would create hundreds of jobs and almost double the size of Kirkby town centre.

As well as the new stadium it would include:

* A Tesco supermarket

* A hotel

* Bunnymans new penthouse and pimping lair

* A range of high street shops

* Extensive car parking

Everton chief executive Keith Wyness has already said the club would decide this summer whether to stay at Goodison Park or move to anew ground.

And the ECHO understands the Kirkby plan is by far the most viable since the much-vaunted Kings Dock stadium project collapsed in 2003.

The involvement of cash-rich Tesco - whose chief executive Sir Terry Leahy is an Evertonian and an advisor to the Blues board puts it way ahead of other suggested sites in places such as Central Docks and Switch Island.

An injection of private money would immediately ease the inevitable financial headache that the club faces if it tries to build a £150m ground by itself.

But discussions are still at a very early stage, and sources stress there are a number of hurdles to be cleared -including how much the development would cost and how exactly it would be paid for.

But the plan does tick a number of important boxes for Everton, such as excellent transport links to the M57 and Merseyrail network, and its location, which is just four miles from Goodison.

The only criteria it does not meet is that it is outside the Liverpool city boundary.

Attracting the Blues to Kirkby would be of enormous benefit to Knowsley council, which is desperately keen to kickstart the town's regeneration.

The proposed site is on land off Valley Road and Cherryfield Drive, partly occupied by Knowsley Community College.

A council spokesman said: "We are in the early stages of discussion with Tesco regarding a potential leisure and retail development close to Kirkby town centre. The development has the potential to incorporate a new stadium for Everton FC.

"Kirkby is one of a number of options being considered by Everton."

Aspokesman for Everton said: "There have been exploratory initial talks, but at this stage no more than that.

"However, it does sound an interesting proposition and we look forward to further talks with Knowsley council and Tesco.

"But we still have several options open to us, and at this stage this is just speculation."

A Tesco spokesman added: "I can confirm we are interested, but it is incredibly early days."

Previous relocation plans have provoked a mixed response from Everton fans, many of whom do not want to leave their historic home.

But recently increasing numbers of supporters have recognised the club may have to leave Goodison to match the financial firepower of their Premiership rivals.

Season-ticket holder Phil Stevens, 24, of Childwall, said: "Kirkby might not be every supporter's first choice, but the club has to be realistic about what is on offer.
"A new stadium is a priority if we are going to compete with the likes of Liverpool."

Keep Everton in Liverpool!

It would be pretty tearful if the toffes left Goodisen.

Updated the first post.

Highbury has gone, new pics for the Emirates and some others.

Which kind of stadium do you prefer, the newer modern stadium such as the Emirates stadium or an old football stadium where you can see the evolution of the ground even if it looks a bit higgledy piggledy compared to a smooth, symmetrical newer version. There was a good representation of both kinds at the World Cup, in particular I liked the Dortmund ground which had steep stands close to the pitch. I can see the beauty in both types though. As for Old Trafford it is a bit lop sided but I can see them building that main stand in the future - then it would look more evenly balanced and be a similar size to Wembley!

No f***ing way!

Tottenham fans know that Spurs belong in North London. Spurs were established in North London (and have stayed there ever since) and there is no way the fans will allow that to happen.

There has been plenty of talk lately about the club moving to the Olympic stadium but all the Spurs fans are just saying no!

White Hart Lane is a good stadium that has potiential to become a great one but all this bollox about there being horrible transport links has put back the plans. Rumour is the club know the transport is ok for 45,000 but won't go ahead as the club want to sell fancy flats. If you've been to Tottenham on a non-matchday you'll admit that it isn't the place to build fancy flats. A near by underground station would attract people to the area.
Hmm, the olympic stadium is still north of the river...

Hmm, the olympic stadium is still north of the river...

The Olympic stadium isn't in Tottenham land. The area is full supporters of West Ham United. I refuse to see Spurs go to that area. Stratford maybe "North of the river" but the majority of Spurs fans could not adopt it as their home.