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thryve
February 5th, 2006, 06:28 PM
Okay... so we all have some good development ideas, may it be an old building that's in dire need of a conversion to a new use, or perhaps an idea you have for an empty slot of land.

So, this thread will be dedicated to your development ideas!

Make a post, give your development a name, tell us what would be included, and what it's all about, and perhaps, how you got the idea!

And remember, these are just peoples' ideas and nothing to argue about... let's try to understand that everyone is going to have a slightly different idea about what to do in different development situations. I hope this thread proves popular.

-thryve

thryve
February 5th, 2006, 06:37 PM
My Development Idea #1...

Name: Ansteys Tower
Use: High end residential units anchored by a Woolworths food supermarket

http://www.amethyst.co.za/JhbLandmarks/Skyscrapers/Ansteys.jpg

In Depth:

I always find myself fantasizing about downtown Johannesburg being not only somewhat revitalized, but densifying and becoming an eclectic mix of old and new buildings. I imagine people of all colours, incomes, housing types, etc., living in the CBD, with people living in everything from the financial areas to previous residential neighbourhoods like Yeoville and Hillbrow/Berea.

One of my ideas would be to convert the Ansteys building into a beautiful landmark once again, with art deco condo flats, anchored by a large Woolworth's food market at the bottom. (I realize that large grocers/food supermarkets seem like a suburban idea, but downtowns really do need large ones too, if they want to have a downtown population of families as well as singles/couples.) I can see people walking down the street from their brand new glass condo tower to Woolworth's, with flowers outside on display along the exterior wall, and fresh produce on display.

http://files.photojerk.com/andrewharv/ansteys3jpeg.JPG http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/2825/overview1wine1yf.jpg http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/2319/ppmall3froth4gb.jpg

Pros:
-would give sustinence for local population
-would encourage high downtown population
-would bring a landmark back to life
-would provide residential units

Cons:
-could put smaller grocers/ food markets at risk of going out of business (most downtown grocers tend to be small in the world's cities)
-would take up the pedestrian level along that whole stretch of the block with one use

Just an idea I recently had while fantasizing about central Johannesburg.

-thryve

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1999/ansteys18ib.jpg

Mo Rush
February 5th, 2006, 07:01 PM
ill be posting some ideas that ive been working on but very rough....
1. greenpoint football/athletic stadium
2. greenpoint tennis centre
3. sea point and newlands aquatic centre.

or does it have to be a tall building idea?

thryve
February 5th, 2006, 08:27 PM
or does it have to be a tall building idea?

Of course not :)

joburg
February 5th, 2006, 09:44 PM
OH MY GAWD Thryve that is SUCH a brilliant idea!! I luuuurve Woolies, and it would go just perfectly at the bottom of Ansteys.. but alas I feel it will remain a fantasy of ours for a while. :(

Anyway... I have awesome ideas for the Joburg city center, including a Guggenheim Johannesburg Art Museum, a manicured garden pavillion, and the Barbican being my own personal house. :)

thryve
February 5th, 2006, 10:15 PM
Ooh that last idea is definitely going to be good for the rejuvenation process! ;)

thryve
February 6th, 2006, 01:20 AM
My Development Idea #2...

Johannesburg Centre... more details coming soon, as well as a second rendering with terraced balconies for residential units on the top floors.

http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/175/joburgtowerjpeg7qe.jpg

datilguy
February 6th, 2006, 08:00 AM
Andrew! You stole my Ansteys idea!!.....hehe just kidding...it looks good! :)

I've got some ideas I've been tossing around.

Durbsboi
February 6th, 2006, 10:46 AM
Would u look at that, I was thinking of starting a thread like this, seeing that Mo is redesigning everything in Cape Town from the stadiums to the CTICC
well as ur'll must have seen in the Durbs Disscussion my desgin of an indoor arena that is badly needed in Durban!

Name: "The Dome" Kings Park
Use: Multi purpose sports complex(soccer, cricket ) also for entertainment use (concerts, shows)

Features:Seating capacity approx 95 000 (excluding private boxes & media center. they are 50 private boxes which can hold up 30-45 ppl. An office block in front of the stadium for the repective Unions (not sure of square meterage as yet)

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/5624/3dstadia3ty.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5377/thedome5fi.jpg

Mo Rush
February 6th, 2006, 01:17 PM
hey durbsboi which program u using...btw guys wont have time to post any ideas soon...really busy lately

Mo Rush
February 6th, 2006, 06:26 PM
ill be posting some ideas that ive been working on but very rough....
1. greenpoint football/athletic stadium
2. greenpoint tennis centre
3. sea point and newlands aquatic centre.

or does it have to be a tall building idea?

cough cough...btw...my first idea is to become a reality...uhm with a dOME...yay....

"He said the Cape Town stadium, on the site of the existing Green Point Track, would be a "totally new facility", and would include a dome that could be closed in bad weather."

the idea is that cape town will stage both the opening match and opening ceremony, which will please sepp blatter who as i hear loves cape town ...for cape town to host these matches blatter apparently gave the city an ultimatum saying that athlone and newlands stadium were insufficient and that they had but a few weeks to produce a world class plan that would allow cape town to stage those events...if not blatter apparently would not have settled for athlone or newlands...therefore the new plan to build the stadium at greenpoint with a dOME was seen as suitable...ah...happy days...

Cape Town Guy
February 6th, 2006, 08:56 PM
You serious!For something so big you dont sound very amped!

Mo Rush
February 6th, 2006, 09:54 PM
You serious!For something so big you dont sound very amped!

im majorly amped...just trying to get some more insider info and working on a rough design for the new DOME...cape town is getting a freaking dome...and durban too...freaking cool....

i tink durbs shud get a stadium like this one


http://www.archiprix.nl/projpix/2004/24Wembly.jpg

and cape town gets a retractable roof stadium...prob around 70,000...it needs to be able to host athletic events too...we really cant afford to build another stadium for an olympic bid...so building a sustainable stadium will only be to our benefit...

dysan1
February 6th, 2006, 10:15 PM
thats a cool stadium mo...where is it from?

when are they announcing who hosts what?

Durbsboi
February 7th, 2006, 08:46 AM
hey durbsboi which program u using...btw guys wont have time to post any ideas soon...really busy lately
Auto CAD 2004 Full Edition

Durbsboi
February 7th, 2006, 08:49 AM
im majorly amped...just trying to get some more insider info and working on a rough design for the new DOME...cape town is getting a freaking dome...and durban too...freaking cool....

i tink durbs shud get a stadium like this one


http://www.archiprix.nl/projpix/2004/24Wembly.jpg


Durban sould also get a retractable roof, this pic is cool but too much glass ont he roof, with durban's heat & UV index's we will be cooked alive!

dysan1
February 7th, 2006, 10:57 AM
hehe...

thryve
February 7th, 2006, 11:15 PM
Coming soon from me...

-Commissioner Lofts, Johannesburg
-a Durban condo tower

Pieter_Van_Classen
February 8th, 2006, 12:00 AM
Ok, guys I need your help, which program (like AutoCAD, ArchiCAD, etc.)do you all feel is the best when it comes to architectural design?

Durbsboi
February 8th, 2006, 09:09 AM
Ok, guys I need your help, which program (like AutoCAD, ArchiCAD, etc.)do you all feel is the best when it comes to architectural design?
Deff ArchiCAD, i seen it in action, its much easier than Auto CAD, plus u can do much more regarding architectur, like using types of bricks, window style etc... Auto cad u hav to draw everything urself! but hey i am use it

thryve
February 8th, 2006, 10:57 PM
Is there an easy or FREE way to get ArchiCAD?

Drawing it yourself sounds nice to me!

-thryve

datilguy
February 9th, 2006, 01:46 AM
Auto CAD is difficult......I have it at home....franly a pian in the ass!! I've got ArchiCad at Uni....much faster and nicer :)

Durbsboi
February 9th, 2006, 03:44 PM
Auto CAD is difficult......I have it at home....franly a pian in the ass!! I've got ArchiCad at Uni....much faster and nicer :)

Totally agree with you man, but if u really get into Auto CAD its freeken fun, believe me, u can draw so many things with it. (construction wise) but if u want to design cars, forget it, then u need, 3D studio MAX, now thats a program!

Auto Cad is the basic of the drawing programs, it is flippin xpensive we @ work payed R18 999 for the Light version, where u can only draw 2D, but the full program which lets u draw in 3D is about R 65 000, thats the price it was when I last saw it. then you get the mother of all drawing programs, the stuff which only the best use, whether its Boeing, Toyota, Daimler Chrysler, Bmw, & even the top architects use it " Dassault Systems CATIA"

That program is hard to learn but when u master it u are the drawing master, u can draw anything! that full edition of CATIA cost's R250 000, & u cannot take up a course in it, the only way u learn it, is if u get a job with a company that use's it & they will send u for 2 weeks of training in Joburg.

datilguy
February 9th, 2006, 07:04 PM
Have you ever worked with TurboCad?

Durbsboi
February 10th, 2006, 09:33 AM
Have you ever worked with TurboCad?
Good God throw that thing in the bin! pleez
thats the worst program in the world!

datilguy
February 13th, 2006, 07:19 AM
^^ I know!......I'm sorry but its practically useless, lol....first planes are terrible to work with!

Mo Rush
February 13th, 2006, 10:29 PM
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/2436/expo25iq.jpg

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/7946/expo43le.jpg

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/3995/expo53pe.jpg

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/5828/expo31fu.jpg

Two arenas: 15,000 and 8,000
Uses: Most indoor sports, indoor aquatics
Media Centre 2010 World Cup
2010 after use. Entire culemborg area transformed into trade fair park, including accomodation etc.

thryve
February 14th, 2006, 03:31 AM
It's massive!

I like the gentle curve in the roof.

-thryve

datilguy
February 14th, 2006, 08:39 AM
Good reusing Grayfield sites.........

Durbsboi
February 14th, 2006, 09:24 AM
Looks pretty gud, but the main arena grand stands are going abit too high, wat program u using Mo?

Mo Rush
February 14th, 2006, 12:10 PM
Looks pretty gud, but the main arena grand stands are going abit too high, wat program u using Mo?
use sketchup..the grand stands could be a bit steep..but thats the exact specifications used in the exhibition centre planned on that site for the 2004 olympic bid, i just changed the design but kept a few of the specs..

Durbsboi
February 15th, 2006, 02:35 PM
Name: My version of what King Senzangakhona Stadium should look like

Its kinda Iconic, it has a retractable roof,which has 2 drive trains, one on either stand & is situated in the middle of the stand. It aslo has a gold crown on the sides hence"King".

Capacity: Approx 80 000 - 85 000 excluding prive suites & press boxes.

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/3289/78uz.jpg

As u can see in this picture, there is no lower stand.
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/8038/37xq.jpg

And in this one, there is a lower stand.
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/9260/54zv.jpg

How this works, the wall colapses allowing the extra stands to move in & out under the main stand. Had no time to go into great detail on this.
Reason for this is, when soccer games are held here, there will be seating as close to the field as possible
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4199/stand2ky.gif

This is the basic Stand arrangement, since one cannot see the stands with the roof on. the first picture is one with all the steel rafters on, & the 2nd is just the stands.
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/5396/87gz.jpg

Roof closed
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/1144/20kg.jpg

Mo Rush
February 15th, 2006, 04:27 PM
http://www.sportsvenue-technology.com/projects/stade_de_france/images/stade_france5.jpg

The lower tier being moved...

http://www.esj-lille.fr/atelier/magan2/foot/terrain/images/tribunesdf.jpg


athletic mode
http://www.fraikin.net/paris2003/stade-de-france-eroeffnung.jpg

http://home.nordnet.fr/~scharlet/stadef1.jpg

football mode

http://www.bleusdefrance.com/fondsecran/france_ukraine_060604_stade_de_france.jpg

dysan1
February 15th, 2006, 08:03 PM
Durbsboi u are very talented! how long did that take u to make? it is such a high quality!!! Interesting design for the stadium!

Could u try do one that incorporates what the council stated they want the stadium to include...ie:

The stadium, and indoor arena that is attached to the main stadium which will provide an indoor arena for sports like badminton, table tennis, wrestling...they seem to think it will have a 10 000 capacity...thats what the paper said....plus the musuem complex and hotel that opens somewhere

Durbsboi
February 16th, 2006, 02:30 PM
Durbsboi u are very talented! how long did that take u to make? it is such a high quality!!! Interesting design for the stadium!

Could u try do one that incorporates what the council stated they want the stadium to include...ie:

The stadium, and indoor arena that is attached to the main stadium which will provide an indoor arena for sports like badminton, table tennis, wrestling...they seem to think it will have a 10 000 capacity...thats what the paper said....plus the musuem complex and hotel that opens somewhere

Thanx man, it took me about 2 weeks, I could have done it better if I had more time. I was drawing it @ work, so I had to balance my work & play.

Will try to design the smaller indoor arena & musem with the Hotel, if I have time.

Mo Rush
February 16th, 2006, 03:25 PM
Durbsboi u are very talented! how long did that take u to make? it is such a high quality!!! Interesting design for the stadium!

Could u try do one that incorporates what the council stated they want the stadium to include...ie:

The stadium, and indoor arena that is attached to the main stadium which will provide an indoor arena for sports like badminton, table tennis, wrestling...they seem to think it will have a 10 000 capacity...thats what the paper said....plus the musuem complex and hotel that opens somewhere

2 weeeks?!?!?! yikes ...about how many hours?

dysan1
February 16th, 2006, 07:42 PM
well done!!! i have so many idea's, but cant design things for shit!

datilguy
February 17th, 2006, 07:52 AM
I've got the programs...hehe and the ideas...I just cant export them :(

Durbsboi
February 17th, 2006, 08:34 AM
well done!!! i have so many idea's, but cant design things for shit!
So why dont u post ur ideas & we will try & incorperate it in our design :)

Durbsboi
February 17th, 2006, 12:20 PM
Okay guys i designed the Hotel for the Kings Park area, but I cant find any place for it!!! so I positions it on the site of the old Water world. The hotel will consists of 3- 30 storey towers which are shaped similar to a sail (as the Burj Al Arab in Dubai) which will be joined by two 10 storey buildings. not sure how many rooms yet, but I can fit 4 rooms comfortably on 1 floor in the towers. It looks kinda nice on that water world spot I must say! the pools look like its part of the Hotel!!!

The indoor arena will be situated on the bottom left of this picture, its quite a decent size of land . Still have to begin designing that 1 . I also want to design a parking lot for the stadiums with the museum in the parking lot.
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3558/stadiawithhotel10ge.jpg

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/6955/stadiawithhotel22st.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8306/stadiawithhotel35gz.jpg

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/9353/stadiawithhotel41ih.jpg

thryve
February 18th, 2006, 05:24 AM
^^ Splendid ideas!!!

However, I despise the idea of a 10-storey podium concept on the hotel... I say make the three towers joined by maybe a... 3 storey section.. or perhaps a little more! ;)

-thryve

dysan1
February 18th, 2006, 02:05 PM
i like the fact that the 3 buildings are connected, they also wouldnt have any height limitations there, since there is nothing close enough behind them to block any views!

It would also be a short walk to the stadium under the highway. That would be the perfect area to have a good beach resort hotel! I can see the land being released for partial hotel development, for it fits with councils plans for hotels near the stadia, but will have the added advantage of being on the beach as well, so it will have a permanent market for it. I can see an addtional hotel being built near the stadium, probably on the stadium land. it would more than likely be a 3 star hotel of no more than 150 rooms

Durbsboi
February 20th, 2006, 08:09 AM
^^ Splendid ideas!!!

However, I despise the idea of a 10-storey podium concept on the hotel... I say make the three towers joined by maybe a... 3 storey section.. or perhaps a little more! ;)

-thryve
Bare in mind that the reception area will be located at the grond floor of each tower, so the ground floor of the 10 storey building joining the towers will be used for retail & restaurants. They also will be conference facilties on the 1st floor of the joining 10 storey buildings where as the towers are strictley hotel rooms.

Mo Rush
March 1st, 2006, 03:34 PM
some things ive been messing around with:

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/5803/hockey2iq.jpg

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/452/village3ps.jpg

dysan1
March 1st, 2006, 04:12 PM
^^^ what is the stadium to be used for?, seems more baseball than anything...is the non roofed section temporary?

Mo Rush
March 1st, 2006, 04:17 PM
^^^ what is the stadium to be used for?, seems more baseball than anything...is the non roofed section temporary?

its a hockey stadium...the shape does suggest it cud be used for baseball though..its different from the usualy hockey stadium designs...the portion that is not roofed is temporary...depending on capacity requirements...

Durbsboi
March 3rd, 2006, 08:02 AM
Interesting Idea for the stadium, but I dont like the part of the temp stand, For stadiums I feel it should be closed right round, it looks abit odd, having this amazing stand goin 3/4 around the ground then all of a sudden this huge gap. look @ the sydney olympic stadium( now Telstra stadium ) , for the olympics, they had those to additional stands on the sides, & after the olympics they were removed & a shelter was placed over the remainding stand. I must say it is rather sad to decrease the capacity of a stadium. Its just not right. Its like building a 10 storey building only to see the view, & once u done that u break down to 3 storeys (ok that wasnt a good example, but u know wat I mean)

Before
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8904/telstra14um.jpg
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/4535/telstra20jb.jpg

After
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6489/telstra37pd.jpg

hsark
March 3rd, 2006, 04:56 PM
sorry off topic thought it might give you some ideas"new towers" what our oil rich friends in west africa are building (sudan)http://www.alsunut.com/images/SouthEast_Aerial.jpg
ps durbsboi where is that studuim from

dysan1
March 3rd, 2006, 06:38 PM
well durbsboi...the durban and CT stadiums both seem to be incorporating temporary seating as part of the new stadium designs...to me it makes sense, for if it is not to be utilised to its full capacity after the event, why build the extra seating?

dysan1
March 3rd, 2006, 06:39 PM
are u sure they building all those buildings??? its not a vision?

hsark
March 4th, 2006, 12:26 PM
nope construction started last year in october its due to be completed in 2008 its a group of different companies they've started construction on the towers on the far side anyway aren't the final staduim designs up this week??

hsark
March 4th, 2006, 12:41 PM
ps sudan is part of the arab league

dysan1
March 4th, 2006, 12:44 PM
what i dont understand with that development is the scale. you cant just say i want to build some cool buildings and then all of a sudden they will be fully utilised and stuff.

hsark
March 4th, 2006, 03:58 PM
ask the uae they do it all the time plus i here there loads of rich people in sudan anyway lets keep this to the african thread ...i just wanted to point out some ideas for a new high-rise in sa

Durbsboi
March 4th, 2006, 11:02 PM
well durbsboi...the durban and CT stadiums both seem to be incorporating temporary seating as part of the new stadium designs...to me it makes sense, for if it is not to be utilised to its full capacity after the event, why build the extra seating?
I fully understand wat u saying & I do agree that it does make sense to have temp stands, all I am saying is, that it hurts me to see a stadium down size its capacity.

dysan1
March 5th, 2006, 09:31 AM
^^well if it cant handle the people, there's nothing else they can do! Maybe u need to find a way to get people to go to sports events more often!

hsark
March 5th, 2006, 01:48 PM
which is a big problem in sa unless u support the bulls, bloem celtec,K chiefs or a national team .....sharkies and problems also fill the stadiums once in while

Durbsboi
March 6th, 2006, 07:53 AM
^^well if it cant handle the people, there's nothing else they can do! Maybe u need to find a way to get people to go to sports events more often!
Ok I need to find more HOT n Sexy woman, make them wear as least clothes as possible & make them do a half an hour show before & after the match, maybe that should draw some crowds!!!!

dysan1
March 6th, 2006, 09:57 AM
how about getting teams to play well??

Durbsboi
March 7th, 2006, 07:56 AM
how about getting teams to play well??
Now u asking for too much, I am not GOD u know.

thryve
March 14th, 2006, 05:32 PM
Commissioner Lofts, Johannesburg CBD:

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/2193/commissionerloftsjoburgjpg8ez.jpg

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/9149/jhbcommissionerstreettraffic22.jpg

An old industrial building with modern touches, and a new addition on top. The owners would be required to have a second mortgage in order to allow a mix of incomes within the building.

The lofts are for low-income people as well as the wealthy, a concept that has worked in loft and condo buildings in many cities when done properly.

Although it is nearby to the office buildings of the financial areas, the building itself is not in the heart of the CBD, but in an area full of smaller, infill-type projects.

-thryve

datilguy
March 15th, 2006, 07:49 AM
I very much like it Andrew!!! :D

Durbsboi
March 15th, 2006, 08:09 AM
^^ hey hey thryve u got some talent in Paint! Nice idea! i like it too

Durbsboi
March 15th, 2006, 03:21 PM
sneak peek at my stadium
its just part of the track, currently designing the press box.
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8324/durban20201og.jpg
should be ready sometime next week

thryve
March 15th, 2006, 05:16 PM
I just don't have time to use CAD software and such... I really wish I did, because Paint is so limiting. I'm glad you like my ideas, atleast, if not the program I use... haha

There's always something in the works, though, so visit this thread often :)

-thryve

thryve
March 15th, 2006, 06:09 PM
ReFlex Condo

-originally designed for Toronto
-perhaps an appropriate design for Cape Town, where large glass facade would give nice view of beachfront
-a small development, but perhaps appropriate for Foreshore, or the suburbs

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/1383/reflexcondographicjpg6hs.jpg

Mo Rush
March 15th, 2006, 06:43 PM
sneak peek at my stadium
its just part of the track, currently designing the press box.
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8324/durban20201og.jpg
should be ready sometime next week

whats happening in 2020 in durban?

thryve
March 15th, 2006, 06:55 PM
Coming soon- exciting redevelopment project for Cape Town CBD Woolworths

Cape Town’s historic, delicate, and human-scale streetscapes were greatly affected by the large towers and developments of the 1960’s, 70’s, 80’s, and beyond. And although it would be impossible to take away the imposing stature of the CBD’s Woolworths store, it is possible to rework it into a more pleasing building, with new developments in the city following different principles to keep the historic Cape Town CBD feel. In other developments for Cape Town that I design, being sensitive to the European streetscape will be the main priority. However, developments like Cartwright’s Corner show us how buildings with large podiums/bases can be redeveloped successfully. It is exciting to see that Cape Town is avoiding the problem in other world cities where population has risen within the CBD but there is too little in the way of shopping to serve the day-to-day needs of CBD residents. With a large downtown Woolworths store among numerous other shops, condo and flat dwellers will have their needs met.

-thryve

joburg
March 15th, 2006, 07:04 PM
Although it is nearby to the office buildings of the financial areas, the building itself is not in the heart of the CBD, but in an area full of smaller, infill-type projects.


You know your city well. ;) I like your idea of the lofts, especially in that area, because as you say, it's full of little buildings down the road from the CBD. They used to have trams running along that area.. perhaps in the future the trams could become a realisation again.

Also loved that shot you posted.. ya know the tower is the old Fire Station? The oldest Fire Station in the city if I'm not mistaken.

Durbsboi
March 16th, 2006, 07:06 AM
whats happening in 2020 in durban?
Wait & see

Mo Rush
March 16th, 2006, 01:44 PM
Wait & see

sorry ill be too busy with the olympic games in cape town...:D
shudnt u change 2020 to 2018? when durbs hostst the commonwealth games.?

Durbsboi
March 23rd, 2006, 01:12 PM
It is a much realistic vision of modern stadium design, not too over the top like the last one I have deisgned. It is a 100 000 seater stadium, which can be converted into a 85 000 seater stadium by means of the air cushion seat system, as Mo has pointed out in the Sta Denis. It also has two temp stand on either end of the field, which can be removed & erected when ever pleased. A 4 level parking lot joins the main stadium to the indoor arena, which seats 15 000 people, & also houses the museum on ground level.
I took alot of insparation from the Stadio Drago in Porto, Portugal for this design, with the huge covering over the sides, when looked from the side, it looks like the roof is wings. The main stadium also boasts a state of the art press box, which has 2 conference rooms, commentators box, for 7 different languges, & viewing deck. Anyway here is my Stadium!
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7655/newdurbsstadia6wk.jpg

Stadium in Athletic mode with temp stand
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/5027/newdurbsstadia13sl.jpg

Stadium in soccer mode with out temp stand
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/1291/newdurbsstadia29mx.jpg

Arial view of arena, with & with out roof
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/6199/newdurbsstadia39ai.jpg

Elevations of the stadium
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/1704/newdurbsstadia42mq.jpg

View of Stadium with & with out Temp stand
http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9089/newdurbsstadia58jm.jpg

Stadium view with out Roof, with one showing the Athletics mode & the other soccer mode
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/2200/newdurbsstadia66ds.jpg

Position of stadium
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/2617/newstadia28ai.jpg
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4489/newdurbsstadia79xq.jpg

Heres a section of the arena, showing the museum.
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6426/newdurbsstadia86re.jpg

dysan1
March 27th, 2006, 08:29 PM
hows the designing coming on durbsboi...by the way whats ur real name?

dysan1
March 27th, 2006, 08:35 PM
cant believe i missed that earlier!!! wow, that is great! interesting design, how it is open to the outside world....i like that! well done

Mo Rush
March 27th, 2006, 10:28 PM
FANTASTIC STADIUM...i am impressed (yes u read right)...

Mo Rush
March 27th, 2006, 10:39 PM
we want more!!

Durbsboi
March 28th, 2006, 07:29 AM
hows the designing coming on durbsboi...by the way whats ur real name?
Thanx man, my real name is Amith

Durbsboi
March 28th, 2006, 07:36 AM
...i am impressed (yes u read right)... :eek2:

Thanx bro

we want more!!
When I have time

hsark
March 30th, 2006, 12:13 PM
that must have taken u some time well im a kiddy wen it comes to cad but nice

Durbsboi
March 31st, 2006, 07:51 AM
^^Well if you know your shortcuts on CAD, then its a breeze:)

thryve
March 31st, 2006, 08:51 PM
I am working on a Cape Town CBD glass condo tower for atop the Woolworth's department store, just to keep everyone updated :)

-thryve

Mo Rush
April 2nd, 2006, 12:45 PM
durbsboi how about designing a new durban aquatic centre?

Mo Rush
April 2nd, 2006, 02:12 PM
Need your opinion...doing a little thing here and there for a greenpoint olympic park/sporting precinct..nothing hectic..just seeing what works and what doesnt

here is what ive done so far...which is just a basic plan..

1. where do you think i should locate the aquatic centre on this map?
2. other venues?

i don think any other venues should be located in this area, it needs to remain somewhat spacious considering its smallish size

the plan currently just shows the site of the main stadium,two temporary park arenas towards the top of the map, a whitewater centre adjacent to the warm up athletics track..

including the aquatics centre

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/665/greenpointolympicpark2ds.jpg

Durbsboi
April 3rd, 2006, 09:32 AM
durbsboi how about designing a new durban aquatic centre?
Well I wasnt going to design a new aquatic center cause the one we got is quite good and meets olympic requiements, but I am sure I can design another one for fun :)

skies no limit
April 3rd, 2006, 09:44 AM
Hot looking stadium. For sustainability I have ideas developed for elsewhere but wasted. Contact me.

skies no limit
April 3rd, 2006, 09:46 AM
Re Olympics - Nothing beats Durban. But do we want the Olympics - jury still out on that one - needs a close look at cost vs benefit?

Mo Rush
April 3rd, 2006, 05:46 PM
Well I wasnt going to design a new aquatic center cause the one we got is quite good and meets olympic requiements, but I am sure I can design another one for fun :)

ive been there..its awful..it sure meets olympic requirements in terms of the pool size. but capacity and otherwise its awful..very depressing place...come on give it a face lift.!!!

Durbsboi
April 4th, 2006, 08:21 AM
^^Will see, it is a bit depressing inside, I was walking around that pool, & I saw beach sand??? where the hell did that come from!

capetown
April 5th, 2006, 08:15 PM
Mandela Rhodes Place is a dynamic R1 billion rand inner-city development in Cape Town. The only problem is the combination of Madiba's name with that of Cecil Rhodes, who was a coloniser, exploiter and a murderer. I think that it defiles Mandela's name as a global icon to be followed by a name many associate with colonialism and former white-ruled Rhodesia whose namesake comes from the "Great Coloniser." What I propose is that the development should instead be renamed the Mandela Renaissance Place, a name that captures the essence of the New SA looking to a brighter future.

tocino
April 8th, 2006, 01:01 AM
It is a much realistic vision of modern stadium design, not too over the top like the last one I have deisgned. It is a 100 000 seater stadium, which can be converted into a 85 000 seater stadium by means of the air cushion seat system, as Mo has pointed out in the Sta Denis. It also has two temp stand on either end of the field, which can be removed & erected when ever pleased. A 4 level parking lot joins the main stadium to the indoor arena, which seats 15 000 people, & also houses the museum on ground level.
I took alot of insparation from the Stadio Drago in Porto, Portugal for this design, with the huge covering over the sides, when looked from the side, it looks like the roof is wings. The main stadium also boasts a state of the art press box, which has 2 conference rooms, commentators box, for 7 different languges, & viewing deck. Anyway here is my Stadium!

....

I don't like it. Too ultra modern and the retractable roof makes it into an ugly dome.

Durbsboi
April 9th, 2006, 12:12 AM
I don't like it. Too ultra modern and the retractable roof makes it into an ugly dome.
I think you had one too many :cheers2: there is no retractable roof. but thanks for your comments anyway :)

Mo Rush
May 3rd, 2006, 12:07 AM
k i was bored and avoiding studying

boca juniors stadium seats currently just under 60,000...its an awesome stadium...sooo..i though id increase the capacity to 70,000 plus and add a roof....:D

PHASE 1

Complete Inner Bowl

http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/3739/bomboneraphaseone7wr.jpg


PHASE 2

Add roof

http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/4466/bomboneraphase25zu.jpg

Durbsboi
May 3rd, 2006, 07:55 AM
^^lol, nice, who knows they might even do it!

dysan1
May 3rd, 2006, 07:54 PM
how freeking wierd is that right side stand!

Mo Rush
May 3rd, 2006, 08:47 PM
^^lol, nice, who knows they might even do it!
well from some rendering i just saw they are adding some kinda roof.but the one grandstand will remain vertical..

Mo Rush
May 5th, 2006, 12:58 PM
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4994/beforeandaftersmall0yw.jpg

Durbsboi
May 7th, 2006, 12:04 AM
I designed this kick ass soccer stadium, but my network @ work is down, so as soon as its up & runnin, will post pics! its similar to that beijing one.

Durbsboi
May 9th, 2006, 03:07 PM
As I said above, I designed this kick ass soccer stadium, I wasnt in the mood of designing one of those olympic/soccer stadiums, this is purely for soccer. It first started of with the design of the cage, then I tried to fit a stadium in the cage. I dont think it came out that bad, I was gonna place it on the site in Durbs, but it wont feel right, so since CT is getting a soccer stadium with a roof, so I plonked it there, (PS: thnx storm for da pics, from ur CT thread).

the cage is made of steel, & the gaps in the cage will be covered with a perspex material, which by a flick of a switch will automatically tint to allow shade for the fans (dont ask me how they gonna do that, its just what I want!). & can be switch back to transperent, this unique feature will aloow more natural light into the stadium allowing for a better playing surface.
the stadium has 3 sections, the lower bowl, the upper bowl & the quadrants.

the lower bowl will have a glass facade around it, it will house offices & shops, & provide ramps to reach the upper bowl & entry to the lower bowl.

Access to the upper bowl will be from the lower bowl by means of ramps.
Access to the quadrents is from the upper bowl (its a long walk, but the view will be worth the walk)

Its a funny stadium, similar to the design in Beijing, only they didnt have the balls to put the quadrents in :D.

The roof will open & close & is also made from steel & will have the same perspex cladding with that magic tint on it.

Well enough talk , heres my stadium!

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8052/greenpoint19ji.jpg

Elevations of the stadium from the different sides
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2723/greenpoint35na.jpg

Stadium with out the roof
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/2860/greenpoint22rt.jpg

Stadium with out the cage & roof
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3973/greenpoint56ym.jpg

Stadium sitting on its proposed site in Greenpoint Cape Town with roof open
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8329/18un4.jpg

This is so cool!!! An animation of how the stadium will be built!!
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/greenpoint.gif

Mo Rush
May 9th, 2006, 06:20 PM
As I said above, I designed this kick ass soccer stadium, I wasnt in the mood of designing one of those olympic/soccer stadiums, this is purely for soccer. It first started of with the design of the cage, then I tried to fit a stadium in the cage. I dont think it came out that bad, I was gonna place it on the site in Durbs, but it wont feel right, so since CT is getting a soccer stadium with a roof, so I plonked it there, (PS: thnx storm for da pics, from ur CT thread).

the cage is made of steel, & the gaps in the cage will be covered with a perspex material, which by a flick of a switch will automatically tint to allow shade for the fans (dont ask me how they gonna do that, its just what I want!). & can be switch back to transperent, this unique feature will aloow more natural light into the stadium allowing for a better playing surface.
the stadium has 3 sections, the lower bowl, the upper bowl & the quadrants.

the lower bowl will have a glass facade around it, it will house offices & shops, & provide ramps to reach the upper bowl & entry to the lower bowl.

Access to the upper bowl will be from the lower bowl by means of ramps.
Access to the quadrents is from the upper bowl (its a long walk, but the view will be worth the walk)

Its a funny stadium, similar to the design in Beijing, only they didnt have the balls to put the quadrents in :D.

The roof will open & close & is also made from steel & will have the same perspex cladding with that magic tint on it.

Well enough talk , heres my stadium!

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8052/greenpoint19ji.jpg

Elevations of the stadium from the different sides
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2723/greenpoint35na.jpg

Stadium with out the roof
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/2860/greenpoint22rt.jpg

Stadium with out the cage & roof
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3973/greenpoint56ym.jpg

Stadium sitting on its proposed site in Greenpoint Cape Town with roof open
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8329/18un4.jpg

This is so cool!!! An animation of how the stadium will be built!!
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/greenpoint.gif
OMG i hate u so much...i wish i cud do one of those animations urrgh...love the stadium concept eventhough its been done before...but using a transparent material between the "horns" similar to beijing will make it awesome...u sure ur scale is right..seems a a bit of a squeeze on that pic u used...?otherwise awesome stuff...

i think its time u designed an aquatic centre.

Mo Rush
May 9th, 2006, 06:22 PM
oh can u post a pic and change the colour of the horns to white? i just wanna see if it will look better...

Durbsboi
May 10th, 2006, 08:19 AM
I know, dont you just hate me :D, white? I'd prefer the rustic steel look, but hey I'll give it a try. oh & the stadium on the Greenpoint site is not to scale, I just made it fit it, but you see how well it works? the shodow matches up & the exsisting pavent around the stadium look as if the 'horns' as you call it are its foundation!

will post a pic later with it in white

Durbsboi
May 10th, 2006, 10:01 AM
Here you go, all bleached up

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7042/greenpoint1a4sf.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7650/greenpoint1b7as.jpg

anybody know of any other site I can uplaod pics on? besides photobucket & imageshack, I got a much larger animation of the stadium, but since its 1,5mb bloody imageshack wont allow me to upload, & photobucket makes da gif so tiny!

dysan1
May 10th, 2006, 08:15 PM
i like it!

Giorgio
May 21st, 2006, 10:16 AM
As I said above, I designed this kick ass soccer stadium, I wasnt in the mood of designing one of those olympic/soccer stadiums, this is purely for soccer. It first started of with the design of the cage, then I tried to fit a stadium in the cage. I dont think it came out that bad, I was gonna place it on the site in Durbs, but it wont feel right, so since CT is getting a soccer stadium with a roof, so I plonked it there, (PS: thnx storm for da pics, from ur CT thread).

the cage is made of steel, & the gaps in the cage will be covered with a perspex material, which by a flick of a switch will automatically tint to allow shade for the fans (dont ask me how they gonna do that, its just what I want!). & can be switch back to transperent, this unique feature will aloow more natural light into the stadium allowing for a better playing surface.
the stadium has 3 sections, the lower bowl, the upper bowl & the quadrants.

the lower bowl will have a glass facade around it, it will house offices & shops, & provide ramps to reach the upper bowl & entry to the lower bowl.

Access to the upper bowl will be from the lower bowl by means of ramps.
Access to the quadrents is from the upper bowl (its a long walk, but the view will be worth the walk)

Its a funny stadium, similar to the design in Beijing, only they didnt have the balls to put the quadrents in :D.

The roof will open & close & is also made from steel & will have the same perspex cladding with that magic tint on it.

Well enough talk , heres my stadium!

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8052/greenpoint19ji.jpg

Elevations of the stadium from the different sides
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2723/greenpoint35na.jpg

Stadium with out the roof
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/2860/greenpoint22rt.jpg

Stadium with out the cage & roof
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3973/greenpoint56ym.jpg

Stadium sitting on its proposed site in Greenpoint Cape Town with roof open
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8329/18un4.jpg

This is so cool!!! An animation of how the stadium will be built!!
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/greenpoint.gif

Who would want to watch a game of football from inside a Jail? :dunno:

SA BOY
May 21st, 2006, 12:54 PM
faaaaarrrrkkkk thats big.

thryve
May 21st, 2006, 04:17 PM
Here you go, all bleached up

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7042/greenpoint1a4sf.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7650/greenpoint1b7as.jpg

anybody know of any other site I can uplaod pics on? besides photobucket & imageshack, I got a much larger animation of the stadium, but since its 1,5mb bloody imageshack wont allow me to upload, & photobucket makes da gif so tiny!

Okay, I am someone who hates stadiums in so many different ways but-- WOW! This is... admittedly, graceful! It almost adds to the area!

I love it... good work!!

-thryve

Durbsboi
May 22nd, 2006, 09:11 AM
']Who would want to watch a game of football from inside a Jail? :dunno:
So I guess you wont be watching the olympics in 2008?
Hey thanx for the idea "jail" yeh I can use that, Robben Island = Jail = Cape Town, see it all adds up! thanx Gioяgos ;)

Durbsboi
May 22nd, 2006, 09:15 AM
Thanx SA BOY & Thryve,

Giorgio
May 22nd, 2006, 09:29 AM
So I guess you wont be watching the olympics in 2008?
Hey thanx for the idea "jail" yeh I can use that, Robben Island = Jail = Cape Town, see it all adds up! thanx Gioяgos ;)
I will be watching Beijing - The Birds nest yes.

Mo Rush
May 23rd, 2006, 11:07 AM
']I will be watching Beijing - The Birds nest yes.
yeah apparently it will be complete in time.

Giorgio
May 23rd, 2006, 01:16 PM
yeah apparently it will be complete in time.
It will be.

Well even if it isnt, atleast Beijing will now always be an Olympic city and ASIAS OLYMPIC GAMES HOST which never lost its bid to a better city at the last minute.

Durbsboi
May 23rd, 2006, 02:01 PM
Eeezee now guys eezee

Mo Rush
May 23rd, 2006, 03:18 PM
']It will be.

Well even if it isnt, atleast Beijing will now always be an Olympic city and ASIAS OLYMPIC GAMES HOST which never lost its bid to a better city at the last minute.
last minute..for the 1996 bid athens was far from being able to host the games...got beaten by atlanta lol..in 2004 after u got pissed off u were handed the games..lol...i applaud athens fully for winning and hosting the games..but they certainly did not win it in the last minute...

dysan1
May 23rd, 2006, 04:52 PM
']It will be.

Well even if it isnt, atleast Beijing will now always be an Olympic city and ASIAS OLYMPIC GAMES HOST which never lost its bid to a better city at the last minute.

Dude no one wants to get into a war with the greek olympic faithful, cos u all become more wacko than MO. But only you lot think athens did well.

And i dont wont an argument for athens in here, or oylmpics or anything, so clear out to the stadiums section on the main board

Mo Rush
May 27th, 2006, 01:47 PM
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2797/development28hp.jpg

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6388/development5lp.jpg

Mo Rush
May 27th, 2006, 01:50 PM
durbs boi ...waiting for u aquatic centre design.....with great anticipation hehe

dysan1
May 27th, 2006, 05:18 PM
Question:

What is the benefit of the "New" CTICC building when it wont offer space for a larger conference? i mean you cant get delegates to walk between two buildings. I suppose it wld enable different events to be held simultaneuously, but not bigger events

thryve
May 27th, 2006, 06:45 PM
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2797/development28hp.jpg

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6388/development5lp.jpg

Looks like you have some interesting ideas... care to expand on these two photos for us? I'm interested to hear it all explained :)

-thryve

Mo Rush
May 27th, 2006, 11:35 PM
Question:

What is the benefit of the "New" CTICC building when it wont offer space for a larger conference? i mean you cant get delegates to walk between two buildings. I suppose it wld enable different events to be held simultaneuously, but not bigger events
I do agree in part...my expansion idea would cater for a separte arena more suited to sporting events etc...adaptable for aquatic, indoor athletics and other sports using retractable seating while at the same time...offering exhibition space if need be...the current space could easily be connected via undegeround pathways..or bridges...however creating one large space would not be possible unless the current portion of adderley street between the existing cticc and the "new" cticc space is diverted underground...

to cover parking needs...three underground levels will provide triple the amount of parking for those who work in the city and will provide further parking for exhibitions...

According to Convenco:
"Plans for further expansion are also being formulated around the site currently occupied by the Customs House building on the Foreshore. In this regard, regular discussions are taking place between Convenco, city and provincial stakeholders and the National Department of Public Works, who are responsible for the Customs House building."

The Customs House is the building below the sign that says "light rail in the image"..im not sure how they would connect these two spaces though...and whether or not they would only use the lower levels of the building or give the entire building a makeover(which is a briliant idea for such a cruddy building)

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2310/expansion6fw.jpg

Durbsboi
May 27th, 2006, 11:37 PM
durbs boi ...waiting for u aquatic centre design.....with great anticipation hehe
carry on waiting, no where near finished as yet

Mo Rush
June 1st, 2006, 06:26 PM
carry on waiting, no where near finished as yet
fiddled around with this idea...

http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/6607/aquaticcentrenew0ed.jpg

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3918/aquaticcentrenew20ro.jpg


This image illustrates the beams that hold up the upper tier of seating forming the grand stand..its an indoor outdoor aquatic centre, very spacious..but it still needs some work..
http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/9246/aquatic105ex.png

thryve
June 3rd, 2006, 06:37 AM
I love having this thread in which to just journal ideas for our cities, and development, etc. and today I finally decided to get my thoughts on one topic down in hard copy...
_________________________________________________________________

Johannesburg is a unique city, and although it's easy to look at the CBD as a clean slate, it really should continue from where it left off. First of all, I strongly believe that second-rate suburban postmodern/Tuscan architecture should be, generally, kept away from the CBD.

Now, having lived in Toronto for quite some years now, I have noted that its conservative, clean-lined architecture, although bland by Asian, South American, and elsewhere's tastes, is quite similar to that of older Johannesburg developments. I am not just saying this because I live in Toronto- in fact, I can't get over how similar I see Joburg's CBD and Toronto.

Anyways, I realize there is the new African modernist and Joburg Constitutional Court-type styles, but I think Toronto style is quite applicable to Joburg, and for the city's sake, I hope architecture similar to its old will be used when new construction commences. That would be my dream for the CBD of Johannesburg in the 21st century.

Examples... (some are better than others)

http://static.flickr.com/53/159022487_1bd7b8c99c_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/50/159022489_c1b5e13844_o.jpg

http://i.pbase.com/g4/67/580567/2/60872329.Spire.jpg

http://i.pbase.com/g4/67/580567/2/60872337.TorontoRising.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Switzer/Glascondos.jpg

http://www.urbandb.com/canada/ontario/toronto/trump_rendering_zeidler.jpg

http://www.urbandb.com/canada/ontario/toronto/hummingbird_centre-rendering.jpg

I realize that the Durbanites and Cape Town forumers with their more colourful styles or more historical-context styles are shaking their heads at me right now, but Johannesburg is just so different and I see it this way.

-thryve

Durbsboi
June 3rd, 2006, 10:44 PM
interesting design Mo, reminds me of the Odi stadium, & thryve i get wat u sayin & it wud be nice to see those sort of buildings in Josie

Durbsboi
June 6th, 2006, 10:41 AM
Mo your design was nice, but you know with me, everythings gotto be BIG!
So I havent finished my design of the aquatic center, but this is wat I have so far,
there are 3 pools that are indoor,
1. the main olympic pool
2. the middle is the diving pool
3. the water polo pool/ indoor practice pool

all these pools will be coverd, then outside I will have a practice pool as well as a practice diving pool.
oh & some water features to make it look nice:D
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/509/aquaticcentre0wh.jpg

dysan1
June 6th, 2006, 11:08 AM
^^"always want things BIG"... compensating? lol :)

But great design...they say that to hold the FINA worlds champs we need the main pool and 2 training pools right near by, so the plan has always been to build temp pools across at the soccer stadium...but i think they shouls consider your idea!

Durbsboi
June 6th, 2006, 01:04 PM
^^"always want things BIG"... compensating? lol :)

I meant stadiums & buildings wise...........
glad to know you like the idea, thought i was going overboard with the design myself

Mo Rush
June 6th, 2006, 01:13 PM
well in realistic terms only half ur aquatic centre would actually be used...there is usually no seating for the second training pool and the diving pool like the sydney aquatic centre is incorporated into the main pool section of the aquatic centre...the design needs much work...i dont see many design elements in it yet but when ure done im sure ill see them

dysan1
June 6th, 2006, 03:08 PM
^^whoa, bit bitchy... :)

Durbsboi
June 6th, 2006, 03:16 PM
I know shit all about designing aquatic centres so the help would be grateful

SA BOY
June 6th, 2006, 03:19 PM
well seeing as Im the only one here who has actually worked on an aquatic centre (I project managed the Sydney Alympic Aquatic centre at Homebush) I think I should have an opinion

Durbsboi
June 6th, 2006, 03:22 PM
^^Please do so

Mo Rush
June 6th, 2006, 06:08 PM
well seeing as Im the only one here who has actually worked on an aquatic centre (I project managed the Sydney Alympic Aquatic centre at Homebush) I think I should have an opinion

well make urself heard...its an excellent swimming and conference facility especially since the pool level can adjust and if im not mistaken can raise up to ground level for other functions/events...the temporary portion used during the olympics was awesome, durbsboi u wudda enjoyed the steepness of those seats...

dysan1
June 6th, 2006, 06:46 PM
well then open ur mouth and speak giles!!! dont hold back

Durbsboi
June 7th, 2006, 07:53 AM
Giles, hellooo you there?

SA BOY
June 7th, 2006, 08:18 AM
in Bahrain will respond when I have some time guys

Mo Rush
June 17th, 2006, 03:39 AM
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3996/baac71sb.jpg

Interior:

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/4511/baac52bn.jpg

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5825/baac61pa.jpg

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/5362/baacpreview4iz.jpghttp://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7707/baac83fp.jpg

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/7258/baac97sn.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9381/baac100gh.jpg

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6190/baac110mo.jpg

Durbsboi
June 19th, 2006, 08:44 AM
looking good Mo, I really like this one, it has that olympic feel to it (not because you got the rings on it) but its really cool! BUT (yes there is a but) the upper tier will not work out, if you take a look at my pic, you will understand why, prob make the angle upper tier more steeper, or move the tier more back, because the angle in which the people will have from there is pretty bad, there is a good chance of them not seeing the pool at all.

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6018/baac110mo9lm.jpg

Mo Rush
June 19th, 2006, 01:27 PM
looking good Mo, I really like this one, it has that olympic feel to it (not because you got the rings on it) but its really cool! BUT (yes there is a but) the upper tier will not work out, if you take a look at my pic, you will understand why, prob make the angle upper tier more steeper, or move the tier more back, because the angle in which the people will have from there is pretty bad, there is a good chance of them not seeing the pool at all.

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6018/baac110mo9lm.jpg
true..i was just too lazy to rebuild a second tier so ii basically copy and pasted and just filled in the gaps...thanks though...back to the drawing boards

Durbsboi
June 19th, 2006, 02:57 PM
No problemo, it does really look cool tho'

I'm trying to draw that senzagakonaza(you know which one) stadium in 3D, I need the interiors :gaah:
heres what I have so far, gonna start to design the arch now
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/3121/kingsenzagakona3ot.jpg

Mo Rush
June 19th, 2006, 03:42 PM
not to be technical but ur stadium roof seems different...it should resemble triangular ridges in the roof...
http://www.personal.us.es/eabajo/maple/images/cubiertas12.gif

Durbsboi
June 19th, 2006, 03:53 PM
eeeeer No, u seem to be mistaken, the material is suspened from the arch & tied or fitted to the stadium,hence you will get that triange effect, if you look at the model carefully you will see that the sides are not triangluar.
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7126/stadiumlarge0zg.jpg

Durbsboi
June 19th, 2006, 03:55 PM
Well I was soo bored of doing work I decided to draw the arch, so here it is, doesnt look exactly like it, but gives you an idea what to expect.
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/4667/kingsenzagakona26hw.jpg

YES I know my arch is too thick, but the paper said that there will be a conference center up there, & there is no way in hell that I could make it thinner & accomodate a conference center!

Mo Rush
June 19th, 2006, 04:58 PM
eeeeer No, u seem to be mistaken, the material is suspened from the arch & tied or fitted to the stadium,hence you will get that triange effect, if you look at the model carefully you will see that the sides are not triangluar.
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7126/stadiumlarge0zg.jpg
oh i thought they just copied the seville roof...oh so does this mean the roof will be some type of fabric? seeing that it lifts up where the cables hold it up?

Mo Rush
June 19th, 2006, 05:00 PM
the exterior of the stadium seems to be slightly slanted inwards? or not?...ur arches are perfect except from that image the arhces appear to be circular or tubular instead of square-ish

Mo Rush
June 19th, 2006, 05:04 PM
something im fiddling around with...still need to add a tiny third tier before the giant fourth tier to take capacity to 110,000 :eek2:


http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/5969/44ss1.jpg

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/7379/22io.jpg

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1597/12dg2.jpg

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/6093/34xa2.jpg

the last two are sightline checks for durbsboi :)

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/5821/62gg.th.jpg (http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=62gg.jpg)


http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/308/56iy1.th.jpg (http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=56iy1.jpg)

Durbsboi
June 20th, 2006, 07:59 AM
Eish Mo, you pretty gud with this sketchup thing, I dno how to use it!...........well I never really tried.

Durbsboi
June 20th, 2006, 10:06 AM
Is anyone else seeing this? Its the freeken McDonalds logo! I hope they dont buy the naming rights to the place after the WC ......."Big Mac-gakona stadium" lol
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4437/m3oy.jpg

Durbsboi
June 20th, 2006, 11:00 AM
Getting there, just trying to figure out how the internal is going to be like, I got 2 tiers so far, gonna do the 120 luxury boxes, media center & lower tier now.
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/1015/kingsenzagakona36vl.jpg
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/2860/kingsenzagakona44rn.jpg

Mo Rush
June 20th, 2006, 03:24 PM
is it possible to make the arches tubular?

Durbsboi
June 20th, 2006, 04:42 PM
^^ I tried to fillet it, but for some stupid reason it doesnt want too, but I will re-draw them when I'm done

Mo Rush
June 20th, 2006, 05:22 PM
im sure ul still add this but there seems to be an outer rim to the roof..

thryve
June 20th, 2006, 05:24 PM
Durbsboi, the sections that the cables attach to seem to lift/sweep up so gracefully, it reminds me of the Vancouver ferry terminal Mo posted a while back... that would look amazing by the ocean in Cape town :D

-thryve

Mo Rush
June 20th, 2006, 06:08 PM
Durbsboi, the sections that the cables attach to seem to lift/sweep up so gracefully, it reminds me of the Vancouver ferry terminal Mo posted a while back... that would look amazing by the ocean in Cape town :D

-thryve
good observation excellent idea im sure durbsboi will find a space at the waterfront and wont mind creating something like the vancouver exhibition centre for us

Mo Rush
June 21st, 2006, 02:35 AM
HELP!!! durbsboi

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/5264/sightlinesissue8sx.jpg

im trying to add a fourth tier...but i doubt will be able to get an angle with decent sightlines...cud u fiddle with this image to find one?...i give up...or shud i just scrap the idea of a fourth tier?..im trying to get the height of that triangle on the top left of the image but maybe at a different angle...i give up eish

Durbsboi
June 21st, 2006, 08:18 AM
Well there is a need for the 4th tier so I suggest you keep it, I think where it all went wrong for you , was on the 2nd tier, you could have relaxed that angle & have that angle on the next level, but any way I hope this picture helps.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4780/sightlinesissue8sx2sc.jpg
Have the 4th tier over lap the 3rd, just abit, but allow good height clearance, this would mean that the last few rows on the 3rd tier cant see the sky/roof, but that shouldnt matter because they there to see the match.

Durbsboi
June 21st, 2006, 08:24 AM
Durbsboi, the sections that the cables attach to seem to lift/sweep up so gracefully, it reminds me of the Vancouver ferry terminal Mo posted a while back... that would look amazing by the ocean in Cape town :D

-thryve
Thanx man, although they doo look great, I am not a fan of material/ fabric roof's, they dont seem stable enough for me, even though they would be tensioned, but aluiminum or steel still's a safe bet for me :)

Durbsboi
June 21st, 2006, 11:32 AM
Just to piss off Mo, & I know that Africa is tipped to get an olympics in 2016 but 2020 was easier to write :crazy:
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8761/kingsenza46wb.jpg
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/4571/kingsenza59sb.jpg

Durbsboi
June 21st, 2006, 01:56 PM
This is how I think the stadium interior for senzaganzakaia will look like, the lower bowl will be at a very gentle gardient, then the luxury boxes & suites, along with commentry box & media, then the 2nd tier bowl, & finaly the 3rd tier bowl to complement the curve shape.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9169/kingsenza63la.jpg

See through elevation
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/410/kingsenza71aq.jpg

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/2963/kingsenza84bq.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/745/kingsenza96rj.jpg

Martsbra
June 26th, 2006, 12:22 PM
Db (durbsboi) those drawings look pretty impressive! Daym! Im no architect/builder dude but eh you know how the sides of the stadiums walls are bent (see pics1&2 above). Like this ----> \____/ <--------------is that difficult to build? coz it looks way better than this -------> |__| <----------THAT SUCKS!

Havent read any of the previous pages so someone might have thought about this already but next to the UJ hotel school there are the gas works and this lovely old red brick building with conveyor belts ect. I think it would make very unique apartments. Just touch it upa bit and re-inforce it a little and spend a minor amount of cash and market it and get rid of all the rats and stuff and and and and and and and (I stutter sometimes) and there you are.... In my dreams! But ya..thats all I got so far

Durbsboi
June 26th, 2006, 12:45 PM
Db (durbsboi) those drawings look pretty impressive! Daym! Im no architect/builder dude but eh you know how the sides of the stadiums walls are bent (see pics1&2 above). Like this ----> \____/ <--------------is that difficult to build? coz it looks way better than this -------> |__| <----------THAT SUCKS!


Its pretty easy brad, with concrete & re-inforcing steel anything is possible, the important part it to get the foundation correct & the rest is easy as pie, just a bunch of rods bent with ties. (well for us its easy but for the structural engineer its a bitch!)

Durbsboi
June 28th, 2006, 12:21 PM
I designed this wayyy before I joined here, I always felt a need for a high rise tower in Umhlanga, so I designed one, a 110 storey office building which is 458's high. Part of the project is the 3 x 30 storey Residential apartments, which are joined by a 10 storey section of flats too (same as the hotel for my stadium) there would be a huge parl between the buildings, & a -3 level underground parking for both the tower & the block of flats. I know this will never happen, but it would be nice.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/umhlanga_Towers_2.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/umhlanga_Towers_1.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/umhlanga_Towers_7.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/umhlanga_Towers_8.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/umhlanga_Towers_3.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/umhlanga_Towers_4.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/umhlanga_Towers_6.jpg

Mo Rush
July 2nd, 2006, 12:50 PM
those gateway towers remind me of du...du...du...du.....dubai

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2272/stadiumdesign1qz.jpg

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/6007/stadiumdesign26wb.jpg

SA BOY
July 2nd, 2006, 01:03 PM
to be honest that Umhlunga tower looks like an erect p*& is and 3 balls :weirdo: ???

Mo Rush
July 2nd, 2006, 01:07 PM
to be honest that Umhlunga tower looks like an erect p*& is and 3 balls :weirdo: ???

perhaps that inspired the erection of the gateway towers.

Durbsboi
July 3rd, 2006, 07:56 AM
to be honest that Umhlunga tower looks like an erect p*& is and 3 balls :weirdo: ???
Never really thought of that, now that you say that ............its does look like it :runaway:

Durbsboi
July 3rd, 2006, 07:57 AM
perhaps that inspired the erection of the gateway towers.
Well I doubt there will be any erecting of any towers :scouserd:

Mo Rush
July 3rd, 2006, 12:09 PM
Well I doubt there will be any erecting of any towers :scouserd:
lol

Mo Rush
July 13th, 2006, 10:03 AM
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8355/float35yi.jpg

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/8687/float58yn.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6618/float27br.jpg

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/3438/float43xi.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6464/float18pa.jpg

Cricket mode:with media centre

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8223/floatcricket4tx.jpg

Durbsboi
July 13th, 2006, 10:19 AM
Now thats a wicked stadium! like the press box thing, looks funky

Mo Rush
July 13th, 2006, 10:34 AM
Now thats a wicked stadium! like the press box thing, looks funky
i think its one of my best yet. the better ones always seem to come easily, and take like an hour at most...

Durbsboi
July 13th, 2006, 12:14 PM
My "Multipurpose Stadium", its an indoor arena, which caters for all the major sporting events: Soccer, Rugby, Cricket, Athletics & Hockey.....maybe more?
Seat 120 000 people, The roof is very unique, where by you can have the entire stadium uncoverd if you wish, this feature is mainly for the field to get maximum sunlight.

Here it is!
http://images6.theimagehosting.com/multi.gif

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/8.jpg

Durbsboi
August 18th, 2006, 03:07 PM
Went to the Point website, saw that these 2 plots were still on sale & thought, Hmm If I had the money what would I build there?????????? Well still in design stages, but got a brilliant design, something you'd prob expect to see in Dubai, but would look great here!

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9589/plotforpointbridgecv6.png

dysan1
August 18th, 2006, 05:22 PM
^^ to clarify...some of those plots that say for sale, will only be for sale in 3 to 5 years time.

Mo Rush
August 20th, 2006, 04:21 PM
Went to the Point website, saw that these 2 plots were still on sale & thought, Hmm If I had the money what would I build there?????????? Well still in design stages, but got a brilliant design, something you'd prob expect to see in Dubai, but would look great here!

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9589/plotforpointbridgecv6.png
build big convention/exhibition centre :D

Durbsboi
August 21st, 2006, 12:09 PM
^^Nope,

Get the ....................
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1926/gwtp2uk8.jpg

Durbsboi
August 29th, 2006, 01:18 PM
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6294/gwtp7ci9.jpg

dysan1
August 29th, 2006, 02:58 PM
^^ that ur point one? looks interesting...u like breaking ur buildings into two pods

Durbsboi
August 29th, 2006, 03:15 PM
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7888/gwtp17rr2.jpg

Mo Rush
August 29th, 2006, 07:56 PM
very cool

Durbsboi
August 30th, 2006, 08:07 AM
more to come, this drawing is a bitch, its 158mb's & I have 2gigs of RAM on my PC & it still takes forever to render!

Durbsboi
August 30th, 2006, 03:25 PM
Gentlemen & ........Gay Gentlemen, I present to you, a Durbsboi design.....
Gateway to Point

It consists of twin towers, which are 85 floors & 330m tall. The buildings will be a mix of offices, hotel rooms & apartments. They are joined from the 56th floor till the 75th floor. which will from the "bridge" of the building. That will house penthouses & presidential suites for the hotel. On the 4th floor is the gym & pool deck with bar area.

the buildings shape is quite different, when looking from the side, it looks like a "P".
Giles should recognise this, the front view looks abit like the four seasons hotel his doing in Dubai. Oh theres also a bridge connecting the level 4 pool decks, which go's over the canal.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/gwtp3.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/gwtp4.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/gwtp6.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/gwtp8.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/gwtp9.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/gwtp10.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/gwtp11.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/gwtp12.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/gwtp13.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/gwtp14.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/gwtp15.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/gwtp16.jpg

still trying to get better renders of it, but as i said, its a bitch to render!

Mo Rush
August 31st, 2006, 02:44 PM
Havent had much time for designing lately...or anything else for that matter...however this morning I started a little concept for a new Cape Town Train Station that would be renamed Cape Town Grand Central including the Central Transport Hub and the Grand Parade..

The main station passageway would be completely renovated but special features would be integrated into the new strucuture...I included the possibility of office buildings for use by the new planned single transport entity for Cape Town, , The entrance and main walkways would be covered by a new "creative" roof...the design is still very rough and conceptual...more soon..

http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/3542/cttrainstation2qy8.jpg

http://img416.imageshack.us/img416/4159/cttrainstation1bf2.jpg

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/4392/cttrainstation3dq2.jpg

Mo Rush
September 11th, 2006, 01:48 PM
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/5193/london2012olympichockeycentre1it5.jpg

Location: Olympic Park
Cost: +/- $42 million
Capacity: Minimum 15,000
Post Games Capacity: 3,000
Architects and Planners: Mo Rush Inc.


http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2300/london2012olympichockeycentre4ma3.jpg
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6774/london2012olympichockeycentre5ow7.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/3429/london2012olympichockeycentre6tw6.jpg

Durbsboi
September 12th, 2006, 08:39 AM
Nice design Mo, alittle over extravagent for a hockey stadium, but it looks cool, the roof is similar to the train station design, getting a festish are we?

Mo Rush
September 12th, 2006, 12:05 PM
the design of the train station is not that similar, except for the large open span roofing, very calatrava like almost..

the stadium roof itself is not extravagant, the fact that it covers both sides of the stadium is extravagant, the cost is on par with the $35 million price proposed in 2005 for the olympic hockey centre. the design is just a tad different to the concept of the hockey centre in the rendering.

http://www.london2012.org/NR/rdonlyres/913908AC-4C43-4082-A6C7-BD3D316940F0/0/hockey_centre.jpg

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/8528/hockeyroofji7.jpg

Durbsboi
September 12th, 2006, 12:15 PM
the roof in the stadium looks alot like the "eye" in calatrava's science museum in Valencia

Mo Rush
September 12th, 2006, 01:42 PM
the roof in the stadium looks alot like the "eye" in calatrava's science museum in Valencia

yeah i think ive been inspired by valencia recently without knowing..perhaps something to do with a trip to europe within the next year.

Durbsboi
September 12th, 2006, 04:23 PM
Yeh it is an outstanding design,

Pule
September 13th, 2006, 10:55 AM
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8355/float35yi.jpg

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/8687/float58yn.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6618/float27br.jpg

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/3438/float43xi.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6464/float18pa.jpg

Cricket mode:with media centre

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8223/floatcricket4tx.jpg


I would definately love to see new design of our Cricket ovals. The current ones are as plain. I magine wonderes being renovated to look like the one above. I hope the guys have plans.

Durbsboi
September 13th, 2006, 11:17 AM
SA's cricket stadiums are just fine as it is, there is no need for a fancy cricket stadium alothough it would be nice, More people tend to sit at home & watch the game on Tv like most other sports instead of going down to the ground & watching it, hence about 2 years back we had the TV balck outs in the area that the cricket was being played, because of the poor turn outs. eg: If there was a test match in Durban & SABC3 was showing it, All durban residents wouldnt be able to watch SABC3, so the only way they could watch it is by going down to the ground. I think that cricket stadiums should have more comfortable seats & more private suites because it is a day long game, so the spectator's need to be comfortable, hence more people tend to be in the open grass area's so they can lounge around but the sun is a factor so some ppl opt to sit in the stand under cover'd seats.

I for one love going down to the cricket, but the turn out's are pathetic! even for SA test matches, the only games that seem to draw crowds are ODI's & thats only if the big country's are down.

Pule
September 13th, 2006, 11:23 AM
You have a good point when you say that we do not attend the games and I for one, I'm part of the blame. But I swould still would love to see some new designs but then the planners should come up with the new strategy to lure people to the games.


The same thing you say does laso happen in Soccer, we go there only for big games, but things are changing now...

Durbsboi
September 13th, 2006, 03:27 PM
yeh I hope cricket will start drawing the crowds again, esp the hot chicks in the bikini's :D

Pule
September 13th, 2006, 03:33 PM
Lol!!! The love for cricket have grown within the bacl communities, the only thing need is marketing and a very proper one.

Durbsboi
September 14th, 2006, 08:32 AM
I can tell you that Stadard bank promotes the Pro 20 series quite well! its just the other games & series needs to be promoted well.

Mo Rush
September 14th, 2006, 03:15 PM
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5927/london2012olympicparkis8.jpg

Thought id share my vision of the london 2012 olympic park, aquatic centre in focus with the velodrome and hockey centre in the background.

Durbsboi
September 14th, 2006, 04:05 PM
interesting aquatic center, doubt you gonna get that much ecstatic fans for swimming, but hey it is the olympics

Pule
September 15th, 2006, 06:06 AM
I can tell you that Stadard bank promotes the Pro 20 series quite well! its just the other games & series needs to be promoted well.

From the black major market, there is no promotion. Bakers have gone all the way to promote cricket in townships and rural areas and the love fopr cricket have grown. But I believe that more needs to be done to make sure that the likes of Pro20 can have large television and attendence market.

Durbsboi
September 15th, 2006, 09:54 AM
^^True, but all the other tounermants & series need to be marketed well, to get the people down to the stadiums, like tomorrows sharks game, the sharks are pulling out all the stops to get the crowd to the stadium but still they get poor turnouts, hopefully with the bulls in town & the sharks recent performance will draw a big crowd, when last did Kings Park have a sell out for a rugby match? last I can think off is when we won the Tri Nations, which was 2 years ago!

Mo Rush
September 15th, 2006, 02:06 PM
^^True, but all the other tounermants & series need to be marketed well, to get the people down to the stadiums, like tomorrows sharks game, the sharks are pulling out all the stops to get the crowd to the stadium but still they get poor turnouts, hopefully with the bulls in town & the sharks recent performance will draw a big crowd, when last did Kings Park have a sell out for a rugby match? last I can think off is when we won the Tri Nations, which was 2 years ago!
true. another reason to build a 70,000 seat stadium next door to it. just kidding.

Mo Rush
November 1st, 2006, 09:47 PM
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/stadiumangle.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Stadium6.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Stadium10.jpg

Durbsboi
November 2nd, 2006, 10:07 AM
Looks like a tissue box with stands inside it :D

Nah kidding, it looks great Mo, like the design, similar to Munich, the roof like a shell to a stadium, a room with a sunroof. The atmosphere will be great in a stadium like that. The big bulky side of the stadium could house convention facilty's, etc.

dysan1
November 4th, 2006, 11:39 AM
Gentlemen & ........Gay Gentlemen, I present to you, a Durbsboi design.....
Gateway to Point

It consists of twin towers, which are 85 floors & 330m tall. The buildings will be a mix of offices, hotel rooms & apartments. They are joined from the 56th floor till the 75th floor. which will from the "bridge" of the building. That will house penthouses & presidential suites for the hotel. On the 4th floor is the gym & pool deck with bar area.

the buildings shape is quite different, when looking from the side, it looks like a "P".
Giles should recognise this, the front view looks abit like the four seasons hotel his doing in Dubai. Oh theres also a bridge connecting the level 4 pool decks, which go's over the canal.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/gwtp3.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/gwtp4.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/gwtp6.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/gwtp8.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/gwtp9.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/gwtp10.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/gwtp11.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/gwtp12.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/gwtp13.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/gwtp14.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/gwtp15.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/gwtp16.jpg

still trying to get better renders of it, but as i said, its a bitch to render!



oooh only saw this now!! very nice buddy. interesting concept

Durbsboi
November 6th, 2006, 10:05 AM
thanx

dysan1
November 6th, 2006, 06:31 PM
where were u aiming to put it?

Durbsboi
November 7th, 2006, 08:24 AM
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/1691/plotforpointbridgeqx9.jpg

dysan1
November 7th, 2006, 11:09 AM
oh ok...pity they will never in a million years allow it in that spot. but nice idea buddy

Durbsboi
November 8th, 2006, 07:54 AM
I know, but we can always dream!

Mo Rush
November 28th, 2006, 01:13 PM
lets keep this thread going DB!, some stuff ive been working on in the sun yesterday.

http://mail.google.com/mail/?attid=0.1&disp=emb&view=att&th=10f2e6c60e9d3cbc

http://mail.google.com/mail/?attid=0.2&disp=emb&view=att&th=10f2e6c60e9d3cbc

http://mail.google.com/mail/?attid=0.3&disp=emb&view=att&th=10f2e6c60e9d3cbc

Pule
November 28th, 2006, 01:34 PM
Hey guys,

I do not have a tool to do all these designs, but my idea was to have the N1, M2, R59, M1 and other routes beign repaited ann having ligths on their sides. I magine looking at M1, next to newtown, with lights on it side. That will just be a great design.

Durbsboi
November 29th, 2006, 07:18 AM
lets keep this thread going DB!, some stuff ive been working on in the sun yesterday.

http://mail.google.com/mail/?attid=0.1&disp=emb&view=att&th=10f2e6c60e9d3cbc

http://mail.google.com/mail/?attid=0.2&disp=emb&view=att&th=10f2e6c60e9d3cbc

http://mail.google.com/mail/?attid=0.3&disp=emb&view=att&th=10f2e6c60e9d3cbc

Ah man, I cant see da pic's

Durbsboi
November 29th, 2006, 07:33 AM
Hey guys,

I do not have a tool to do all these designs, but my idea was to have the N1, M2, R59, M1 and other routes beign repaited ann having ligths on their sides. I magine looking at M1, next to newtown, with lights on it side. That will just be a great design.

I know the routes you talking about, is the R59 the one from Jhb to Vereeneging? that road needs to be redone like yesterday, & widened too.
They need to put some fancy lights in there, none of the standard street lighting, esp in the CBD area. I was thinking long poles bents over 2 lanes with a Xenon lamp, now that will be hot! OR we can use a mercury vapour lamp with yellow, since its the "city of gold" yeh that will work

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7166/lightpolecf7.jpg

Yeh Mo, we need to keep this thread alive, I've been thinking of a mix dev. on the new Ridge side TC in Umhlanga, with alot of glass.......as usaul, offices & shops at the bottom, possibly a gym facing the sea with MASSIVE windows, & a High rise apartment block with loft Penthouses. prob about 15 to 16 floors, maybe higher, also trying to come up with another stadium design & making my FNB stadium into the bowl shaped one they have got at the moment, the problem is time! I got no time to do anything!

Pule
November 29th, 2006, 07:48 AM
Yip, that's R59. Most of the lightings in Jozi needs to be done. I was amazed by the brightness of CT during the night.

Mo Rush
November 29th, 2006, 10:56 AM
I know the routes you talking about, is the R59 the one from Jhb to Vereeneging? that road needs to be redone like yesterday, & widened too.
They need to put some fancy lights in there, none of the standard street lighting, esp in the CBD area. I was thinking long poles bents over 2 lanes with a Xenon lamp, now that will be hot! OR we can use a mercury vapour lamp with yellow, since its the "city of gold" yeh that will work

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7166/lightpolecf7.jpg

Yeh Mo, we need to keep this thread alive, I've been thinking of a mix dev. on the new Ridge side TC in Umhlanga, with alot of glass.......as usaul, offices & shops at the bottom, possibly a gym facing the sea with MASSIVE windows, & a High rise apartment block with loft Penthouses. prob about 15 to 16 floors, maybe higher, also trying to come up with another stadium design & making my FNB stadium into the bowl shaped one they have got at the moment, the problem is time! I got no time to do anything!

ah its the good thing about UCT ..6 months work like a pig, and 6 months on holiday..:)..just woke up now..:)

Durbsboi
November 29th, 2006, 01:00 PM
........basturd

Durbsboi
November 29th, 2006, 03:38 PM
I, I've been thinking of a mix dev. on the new Ridge side TC in Umhlanga, with alot of glass.......as usual, offices & shops at the bottom, possibly a gym facing the sea with MASSIVE windows, & a High rise apartment block with loft Penthouses. prob about 15 to 16 floors, maybe higher,


this is what I got so far

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3599/risgesidesu7.jpg

dysan1
November 30th, 2006, 07:44 PM
nice

Durbsboi
December 1st, 2006, 08:35 AM
heres more, not 100% finished as yet, still alot of minor things to do
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2822/ridgeside1hb5.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/913/ridgeside3bz9.jpg

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5516/ridgeside2jn1.jpg

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8159/ridgeside4ld5.jpg

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6711/ridgeside5tg8.jpg

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9735/ridgeside6je8.jpg

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/4373/ridgesideviewkr8.jpg

Mo Rush
December 14th, 2006, 02:01 PM
Besides the ICC website where could i find info on the ICC arena? e.g plans, design, etc? Trying to design a CTICC Arena for CT.

Durbsboi
December 15th, 2006, 06:37 AM
No idea, stuff for the arena is very very hard to find

Mo Rush
December 15th, 2006, 10:48 AM
who are the architects?

dysan1
December 17th, 2006, 03:31 PM
yeah finding information has been nearly impossible, like they dont want people to get there hands on it

Mo Rush
December 17th, 2006, 04:53 PM
missing link

thryve
December 29th, 2006, 05:43 AM
A Johannesburg Vision

I've said this many times, but I was thinking about it again today. Toronto's CBD and Johannesburg's seem similar to me for some reason, or atleast I see them as having alot of similar architecture and setup. I really hope that when new office towers start going up in Johannesburg again, they have the clean, simple sophistication they did back in the boom days, and not overly crazy or messy design. I see New York City type towers, glass with impressive lighting. We're already seeing techno-lighting in multiple colours and billboards happen in Johannesburg's CBD, which is a nice shift.

Here's a few towers I can definitely see fitting into Joburg's CBD:

1...

In the financial district?

http://chartattack.com/ut/@night_west_BASE02.jpg

http://www.upside-down.ca/sdphotos/bayadelaide1.jpg

2...

In Hillbrow?

http://www.downtownrealty.ca/Building-image/matrix.jpg

http://www.urbandb.com/canada/ontario/toronto/cityplace_project.jpg

The 21st century version of those massive old Hillbrow blocks of flats you see?...

http://archiguide.free.fr/PH/CAN/Tor/TorontoLogApexWaCleBe.jpg

Pule
December 29th, 2006, 06:41 AM
Why are you doing this to me Thryve? Just imagine, but I guess if the CBD re-doing goes well, we will deifinately see this kind of towers being constructed, but again I think it will take a 1 or 2 developers to take the risk and others shall follow. If the middle class in general continues to grow then we will definately get to this point.

thryve
December 30th, 2006, 01:06 AM
^^ Doing what? Tempting you!! haha sorry, that's not the idea

Pule
December 30th, 2006, 05:23 AM
Jah man, but it would really be nice to see the skyline of Joburg changing face but still being a different one from others.

thryve
December 31st, 2006, 02:10 AM
Presenting... in its preliminary design stages...

Joubert PARK SPIRE

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9518/joburgidea2nq9.jpg

thryve
December 31st, 2006, 03:03 AM
This is soon to be majorly redesigned, as I am not quite happy with the result. Please follow its development, and help me along.

I guess Tom will have high expectations here... I'm messing with his baby! (His baby being the Barbican building.)

BARBICAN in 2006...
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8282/barbicanin2006ns0.jpg

BARBICAN redevelopment... first design... (will change significantly)
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/5323/barbican1smallap6.jpg

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/2918/barbicancoloursdb7.jpg

thryve
December 31st, 2006, 03:12 AM
Design has evolved:

**SORRY FOR THE CHOPPY COLOUR: my screen is set to being quite dark, and I never even noticed that the white colour is very different from the colour of the scanned paper. Ugh... being on a different computer right now I can see how it really looks. That's frustrating.... I'll have to change it sometime:

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3634/barbican2pm4.jpg

thryve
December 31st, 2006, 12:07 PM
http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/503/barbicanadvertisingop4.png

thryve
December 31st, 2006, 12:16 PM
Fantasy Johannesburg Development Tracking List:


"Park Spire" (Joubert Park) 70F, Residential


-new development in Joubert Park inspired by Chicago's Fordham Spire project
"Barbican Terrace" (CBD) 22F, Residential-Sky gardens ("Own your own greenspace in the city...in the sky")
-Townhomes (face onto sidewalk) and Terraces (face into inner courtyard)
-Highrise condominiums

thryve
December 31st, 2006, 02:15 PM
I stress the word fantasy ;)

And why did my post appear BEFORE dysans? WTH?!

dysan1
December 31st, 2006, 02:16 PM
hmmm...lots of time on your hands to draw these images! hopefully in the next 10 years we will see one new tower build in jhb, but with so many buildings needing revamps first, and jhb people prefering gardens i do see it being a long time in the making. but i would like to be proved wrong

thryve
December 31st, 2006, 09:52 PM
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8661/barbicanskygardensrd4.jpg

Own a piece of the sky- literally. In Barbican Terrace, residents and non-residents* alike can own their own private space in the sky. A highly experimental idea, Barbican Terrace offers this environmentally friendly way to experience the outdoors- inside, in a climate-controlled, agreeable setting. A space to think. A space to unwind. A place to be refreshed. The sky gardens.

*Less expensive for those who own condominium space in Barbican Terrace.

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/6594/barbicancoloursfq9.jpg

thryve
January 16th, 2007, 02:34 AM
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/7643/barbicantownhousesmallta6.jpg

Inspired by townhouse projects at the base of condominium tower developments in Vancouver, Canada, the Barbican Terrace's townhouses also face directly onto the downtown streets and pavements of Johannesburg. Live down where all the action is, but in serene and comfortable style.

Each and every townhouse has its own enclosed private patio space. Live in the CBD- and have access directly to your unit from the pavement. Other sides of the building have ground floor retail.

Durbsboi
January 16th, 2007, 07:49 AM
cool stuff thryve, some nice idea's there, I also agree, Joburg needs to become the NY of Africa, & they need an 80+ storey building, the carlton center aint cutting it any more

thryve
January 16th, 2007, 08:47 PM
^^ Thanks.

A somewhat respectable (non-scribble / non-shite) evolved design for the Park Spire will be posted soon. Maybe I should be making that thing 80 floors? Haha if only...

Durbsboi
January 17th, 2007, 12:01 PM
Something I was fiddling with, a skyscraper for Josie, its 86 storey's, @ 350m tall.

Not finished as yet,

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9854/jhbskyskrapaks0.jpg http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9980/jhbskyskrapa2vj4.jpg http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/719/jhbskyskrapa3ug6.jpg http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/3341/jhbskyskrapa4fl2.jpg

lol, it looks like a funky pencil

thryve
January 22nd, 2007, 12:30 AM
Looks like Ponte meets Chicago Spire! ;) and yes, maybe a little pencil in there too ;)

I'm still thinking up some new ideas... maybe will work on designing some loft/infill condo projects for the outer fringes of Joburg's CBD where it's all smaller buildings... so many of them are dilapitated that we're going to need lots of infill loft and condo projects in the next decade or so to take care of them... I'm thinking something along these lines:

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/7217/queenwestcondos9cf.jpg

http://www.urbandb.com/canada/ontario/toronto/zen_lofts.jpg

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9650/66portland15gt.jpg

thryve
January 23rd, 2007, 09:12 PM
Okay guys... here's a "Coming Soon"...

I'm working on a design of a residential condominium tower for Cape Town's CBD that would become CT's tallest. It's not a supertall, but a very tasteful design with a decent enough height that it's nice'n'tall but won't look out of place in the city. I've also given it the presence of an office tower.

thryve
January 28th, 2007, 09:46 PM
Okay, the design is starting to come along:

It's called the Cape Town Landmark Tower OR Beacon Tower, at this point:

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9923/cttowermockupvt7.png

Durbsboi
January 29th, 2007, 07:24 AM
Nice colour

thryve
January 29th, 2007, 07:52 PM
^^ LOL... actually it will be pale and darker glass... sort of like the Arabella Sheraton. :) That's just a rough mock-up ^^.

Anyways, here's a preview of the almost-finished tower (BELOW). I originally thought some roof greenery would be very suited to Cape Town, but I removed them... although that would be well-suited to smaller towers in central Cape Town, I think this tower needs to be imposing, and attention-demanding. That means hard lines with no greenery to take detract from it.

I am beginning to think it'd be suited to that site in the Foreshore beside The Icon. It's too large and imposing to go in an older, quaint part of the CBD.

It would match very well with the tasteful and timeless upcoming Taj Hotel @ Mandela-Rhodes Place as well as the Arabella Sheraton and Convention Tower. This is truly a tower for Cape Town.

More info./renderings coming.

Cape Town Landmark Tower:
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/884/cttowerofficialbwvx9.png

Mo Rush
January 30th, 2007, 12:18 AM
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/8-1.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/16.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/15.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/14.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/5-2.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/13.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/7.jpg

Durbsboi
January 30th, 2007, 07:59 AM
looks good Mo, you becoming an expert on Skecthup i see

thryve
January 30th, 2007, 10:13 PM
I'm not a huge fan of stadia, but you seem quite skilled, Mo :D

* * * * * * * * * * * *

Cape Town Landmark Tower:

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/6725/cttowerofficialwithdetara7.jpg

Mo Rush
January 30th, 2007, 11:51 PM
well thats not just an idea...an indoor arena will be built at that location within the next few years. thats just a copy of rod laver arena

thryve
January 31st, 2007, 12:07 AM
Anyone got comments of any kind about the tower? I spent alot of time working on it...

Pule
January 31st, 2007, 04:32 AM
^^ LOL... actually it will be pale and darker glass... sort of like the Arabella Sheraton. :) That's just a rough mock-up ^^.

Anyways, here's a preview of the almost-finished tower (BELOW). I originally thought some roof greenery would be very suited to Cape Town, but I removed them... although that would be well-suited to smaller towers in central Cape Town, I think this tower needs to be imposing, and attention-demanding. That means hard lines with no greenery to take detract from it.

I am beginning to think it'd be suited to that site in the Foreshore beside The Icon. It's too large and imposing to go in an older, quaint part of the CBD.

It would match very well with the tasteful and timeless upcoming Taj Hotel @ Mandela-Rhodes Place as well as the Arabella Sheraton and Convention Tower. This is truly a tower for Cape Town.

More info./renderings coming.

Cape Town Landmark Tower:
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/884/cttowerofficialbwvx9.png

I think its a plain building and CT will be perfect with a more of an artistic design.

thryve
January 31st, 2007, 04:48 AM
It's good to get even such a comment as that-- in fact I had one where the smaller tower had a zebra-inspired pattern on it.... hmmmm maybe I should bring that back out in the final design... :)