View Full Version : Architecture of Colonial Bangkok I : Rattanakosin Island


jeronimo
February 6th, 2006, 07:54 PM
Okay, I will probably get stoned to death for using such a word. Thailand has never been colonised so saying Colonial Bangkok may be inappropriate. :)

Let's dedicate this thread to old, colonial style (sino-protugese) or western influenced architecture in Bangkok. This may prompt us to realise how plentiful this type of architure are in Thailand and lead to the renovation and conservation programme in the future. Let's us start with those in Rattanakosin Island area as there are many hidden gems that we tend to overlook and thus leave them in a very dilapidated conditions.

I wish the Government learnt from Singapore how to renovate and conserve these beautiful and historical buildings.

All of the pictures are from http://www.hdamm.de/reise/rtt0-idx.php
And all the texts are excerpted from http://www.seameo.org/vl/rattanakosin/index.htm

A thousand thanks to both sources.

Please feel free to discuss and opine your views. Your photos will also be most appreciated.


1 INNER RATTANAKOSIN BOUNDARY

1.1 The Chang Wang Luang Old Shophouses

At the corner of Tha Chang area, there are 33 units of beautifully decorated shophouses. The area of the shophouses used to be the land of a famous poet named "Soonthorn Phoo" but the land was given back to the government in the third reign (1824-1851). These shophouses were built during King Rama V's reign (1868-1910) with beautiful plaster pediment, pilasters and stucco. Shophouses are owned by the Royal Crown Property Bureau who leases out to private tenants.

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1.2 Shophouses on Na Phra Lan Road

Old Shophouses on Na Phra Lan road are located in front of Silpakorn University (University of Fine Arts). In the first reign (1782-1809) the area of Silpakorn University was the site of three palaces. The palaces had been residence of the Kings' relatives until the fifth reign (1868-1910). After that, the land was transferred to the government and eventually under the responsibility of Silpakorn University and Fine Arts Department.
During the fifth reign the wall of the palaces were demolished and shophouses were built instead. These shophouses were constructed with brick and plaster. Columns, pilasters, walls and openings are well-treated and some details look similar to those found in Tha Chang shophouses located nearby.

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1.3 Tha Tian Shophouses

In the past, Tha Tian area was one of the significant communities in Rattanakosin. A palace of a prince was constructed on this area in the first reign (1782-1809) but it was totally destroyed by fire during the fourth reign (1851-1868). Then, a foreign court and accommodation for foreigners were built before they were replaced with shophouses. Shophouses in Tha Tian were believed to be built in the fifth reign (1865-1910) since some of the feature and decorative are similar to those found in Tha Chang and Na Phra Lan areas. Tha Tian shophouses are a good example of the early market development in Rattanakosin where a fresh market is surrounded by rows of shophouses.

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1.4 Charoen Rat 31 Bridge

This reinforced concrete bridge with plaster balustrade was constructed in 1910, the first year of the sixth reign (1910-1925). It is the first bridge which has the prefix "Charoen" (meaning growth or development) and " 31" means the age of King Rama VI at the year the bridge was built.

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1.5 Phra Ratchawang Municipal Police Station

Phra Ratchawang Municipal Police Station is situated in the area of a Palace existed in the third, fourth and fifth reigns. The station was moved to this place in 1914 in the six reign after the palace was no longer in use.

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1.6 Main building of Ministry of Commerce

The main building of Ministry of Commerce is located in the area of former palaces which were built in the third reign (1824-1851). The land was transferred to the government in the sixth reign (1910-1925) and has belonged to the government since then.
The well-preserved main building has three storeys. Some details and decorative such as pilasters and architraves had an influence from those found in European architecture.
In front of the porch of the main building, a statue of Prince Chanthaburi Narunart is situated. The statue was created in 1961 as a memorial to Prince Chanthaburi Narunart who is the first Minister of Commerce.

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1.7 Old Shophouses on Asdang Road

These old shophouses are on Asdang road which lies in parallel to the inner city-moat. They were built in the fifth reign (1868-1910) in European style as seen from treatment of pediments on facades of ending units and opening decorations.
From the mid 19th to early 20th century, this area was one of the famous business places where motor car showrooms and boat engine shops were located because the area was near a major wholesale market called Pak Klong Talad. At present, the old shophouses are in poor condition and are mostly housed by truck-transport and warehouse companies.

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1.8 Ubonrat Bridge

This bridge was built in 1912 as a memorial to Princess Ubonrat Nareenart a queen of King Rama V. The bridge was built on the former bridge called "Hue Takae" (means head of a crocodile). The plaster banisters were designed in Thai style with the name plate of the bridge at the middle. It is one of the old and beautiful bridges remaining in Bangkok.

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1.9 The Territorial Department

This area of approximately 2 acres was the site of five palaces constructed during the Second and the Third reigns (1809-1851). After modernization movement in the Fifth reign (1868-1910), many palaces were redeveloped and changed into government offices including the Territorial Department. The main building was constructed in Roman style which is apparently noticeable by its pediment at the entrance as well as other architectural elements like columns, openings and architraves.

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1.10 Mon Bridge

This bridge was originally built with teak timber in the third reign (1824-1851). The timber structure was replaced by a concrete bridge in the sixth reign (1910-1920). The name "MON" in Thai means an ethnic group called Pequan living in a town called Pegu in the south of Myanmar. In the past, Mon traders used to settle their boathouses in the area of Mon bridge nowadays.

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1.11 Pee Goon Bridge

This walkway bridge was built in 1911. The Queen Mother of King Rama VI granted the construction cost to commemorate her fourth cycle (48 year-old) birthday which fell on the year of pig. At the beginning, the bridge had no given name until a pig memorial was built nearby ("Pee Goon" means year of pig). The bridge has four decorative posts symbolizing birthday candles of fourth cycle. And the oval plates on each post means the cycle of birthday.

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1.12 Main Hall of Ministry of Interior

Ministry of Interior is another example of the redevelopment of government office taken place on the former palace area. The area of three palaces built during the Second and the Third reigns (1809-1851) was transferred to be the governmental land where the main hall of Ministry of Interior was built in the Fifth reign (l 868-19lO). The building has a square shape with spacious inner-court. The outstanding feature is seen by rusticated wall and keystones at transoms which are usually found in European Renaissance architecture.


1.13 The Royal Survey Department

In the past, this area was a part of Saranrom Palace. In 1887 a wooden building was built to be the Military Academy and in 1892, the 2-storeyed concrete building was built to substitute the wooden structure.
After Military Academy and other military departments were relocated, this building has been used as the office of Royal Survey Department since 1931. Although the overall feature of the building is understood that it derives influences from European architecture, some stucco and details were created in Thai style.


1.14 Chang Rong Si bridge

Chang Rong Si bridge was built in 1910 from the donation of Prince Damrong Rajanubharb, the first Minister of Interior. Following the idea of his Majesty King Rama V, the Prince commemorated his fourth cycle birthday by building a bridge for public use.

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1.15 Ministry of Defense

This huge building was built in 1882 and completed in 1884 on the land of former three palaces existed in the First reign (1782-1809).
It was used as barrack and storehouse at the beginning and became the head office of Ministry of Defence later. The Roman pediment and six columns supporting the front balcony are very outstanding and representing power of the Army. The front garden is decorated with ancient which also symbolizes the power.


1.16 Hok Bridge

Hok means lifting or converting. The platform of this wooden bridge can be lifted up like a Dutch bridge. Hok bridge seen at present is the one which has been reconstructed recently. This type of bridge was first built in the late of the Fourth reign (1851-1868).

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1.17 Charoensri 34 Bridge

One of the "Charoen..."series bridges built during the Sixth reign (1910-1925). Charoensri bridge was built in 1913 from the King's private fund to celebrate his 34 year-old birthday. The bridge has 4 plaster posts decorated with western-style stucco. The Thai figure "4" on each post means the fourth year in the throne of King Rama VI.

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1.18 Pan Pibhob Leela Bridge

The name of the bridge means the passage of the King. This bridge was built in 1906 (during the Fifth reign) to connect Ratchadamneun boulevard with Inner Rathcadamneun road towards the Grand Palace. This bridge had been widened and repaired many times due to the increasing demand of the traffic volume. Actually, the original banisters were very beautiful, unfortunately they were taken to nowhere during the reparation which had been done many times.

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jeronimo
February 6th, 2006, 07:57 PM
2 NORTH OF OUTER RATTANAKOSIN

2.1 National Art Gallery

The Art Gallery building was built in the Fifth reign (completed in 1902). The building was originally used as the Royal Mint. After the Royal Mint was relocated to the new site on Pradipat road, this building was transferred to Fine Arts Department who repaired, renovated and changed the function to be the National Art Gallery. At present, the Gallery has both permanent and temporary art exhibition rooms and it also welcomes everyone who appreciates all kinds of arts.

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2.2 Tanao Road Shophouses (Bang Lamphu Area)

Old shophouses on Ban Tanao road in Bang Lamphu area was assumed to be built not earlier than during the Fifth reign (1868-1910) because of their western-influenced architectural details. The shophouses have a firewall at every two or three units. Original features of the shophouses are found at the upper floor while the ground floor parts have been changed and redecorated to fit with the current commercial activities.

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2.3 Ratchadamnoen Klang Boulevard

Ratchadamnoen Klang Boulevard was built during the Fifth reign (1868-1910). It was the largest and widest road at that time. Ratchadamnoen means the Royal passage because it links between the two Royal palaces which are the Grand Palace and Dusit Palace.
In the past, both sides of Ratchadamnoen Klang Boulevard were the lines of Mahogany trees. The trees were pulled out in 1941 when the huge post-war style buildings were constructed on both sides. The buildings along the Boulevard have the same texture, materials and style and most of them are used as government and private offices.

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2.4 Old Shophouses near Bovon Nivet Temple

These shophouses are located on Ban Dinsor road, they were built between the Fifth ( 1868-1910) and the Seventh (1925-1934) reigns. From the outlook, it seems that each unit has only one floor but actually it also has the upper space. Originally, there was a small front yard for each unit but now the yard had been filled with extended building structure. The shophouses are rented by private individuals who pay rent fee to Wat Bovon Nivet.

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2.5 Maha Makut Royal College Building

Maha Makut Royal College was established in 1912 (the fifth reign) from the donation of senior civil servants. The original purpose was to build a school in Bovon Nivet temple. There are two buildings in this place that still keep their original structures and appearance. At present, the two buildings are no longer used as a school but used as the office of Thai Fortune Teller Association and a Traditional Thai Medical Clinic.

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2.6 Shophouses on Phra Athit Road

Now occupy many trendy restaurants, chic bars and youth pubs.

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2.7 House no. 201/1, Phra Athit Road

House no. 201/ l is located on the land of an old palace in the First reign (1782-1809). The present building was constructed in 1926 by Finance Minister Phraya Vorapongpipat, who inherited this house from his ancestor. From 1962 to 1989, the Goethe Institute rented this house as the Institute's office. And recently, the house has been restored and the extended identical structure was constructed.

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2.8 The FAO Building

This is another place where a former palace is turned to be a public office. The old but beautiful and well maintained building was built in the Sixth reign (1910-1925) and named "Bean Maliwan". Baan Maliwan was transferred to the Crown Property Bureau in 1937 and became the office of the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations-FAO Regional Office for Asia and Pacific afterwards. After the FAO built another main office building, Baan Maliwan has become the library of the Organization. The building of Baan Maliwan has the entrance facing the river because in the past, waterway was more convenient than the road.

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2.9 UNICEF Building

UNICEF (United Nations Children's Fund) building was built during the Fourth and the Fifth reigns (1851-l9lO). Its outstanding feature is the shape of roof which combines hip and gable types together. The building was originally the residence of a Queen consort of King Rama IV.

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jeronimo
February 6th, 2006, 08:00 PM
3 UPPER MIDDLE OF OUTER RATTANAKOSIN

3.1 Shophouses near Chao Poh Suea Shrine

Continued from shophouses in Bang Lamphu area (see 2.2), shophouses near Chao Poh Suea Shrine have more or less the same features except some rows have different type of roof. Structural changes and many alterations are usually found on these old shophouses.

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3.2 Gate of Praeng Sanphasat Palace

This Neo-classical structure is a gate of the palace of Prince Sanphasart Supakit built in 1901. After the Prince's death in 1919, the palace was redeveloped and in 1967, there was a big fire disaster in the area and the gate was the only remaining structure. The original structure of the gate is only masonry work without steel reinforcement. In 1976, the gate was structurally supported by brick-bracing which was implemented by Bangkok Metropolitan Administration with the cooperation of Fine Arts Department and many public and private organizations.

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3.3 Old Shophouses on Praeng Nara

The word "Praeng Nara" comes from the name of Prince Narathip Prapanpong who owned this area. During the Fifth reign (1868-1910), the area was redeveloped by the construction of a road called Praeng Nara road. Shophouses were then constructed along the road. These old chophouses still exist at present. Many units remain their original architectural features. The shophouses now belong to the Royal Crown Property Bureau.

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3.4 Talapat Suksa School

Located within Praeng Nara community, Talapat Suksa school is a part of the former palace of Prince Narathip Prapanpong. This group of buildings is now used as a private school. Although the building is in decay, some remaining elements like carved wooden panel, staircase, banisters and roof pediment still reflect the beauty of the past.

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3.5 Old Shophouses on Praeng Poothon Road

Praeng Poothon area is one of the perfect sites of old style shophouses remaining in Bangkok. This area was the site of a palace before it was redeveloped in the Fifth reign (1868-1910). More than 100 units of old shophouses still keep their major structure and original materials. This area used to be one of the most busiest squares in Bangkok before modern shopping centres and department stores became prevailing custom of the Thai society.

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3.6 Shophouses on Bam Rung Muang Road

Bam Rung Muang road is one of the oldest roads in Bangkok. It was a small walkway at the beginning and was improved in 1864, and widened in 1870. Shophouses were built and completed in 1872. The shop front with arches used to be a covered- colonnaded walkway which is found similarly in the old towns of Phuket and Penang. But now the covered-colonnaded walkway was already blocked and filled with cement and this has caused Bam Rung Muang a road without safe footpath.
Although there are not many original units left, this area is still distinctive because most of the shops have homogenous sale products which are Buddhist artifacts. Such activity has been being operated for a long time and became the oldest and largest Buddhist artifacts thoroughfare in Thailand.

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3.7 Sommot Amornmark Bridge

This bridge was built as a replacement of the former sliceable bridge with steel rails for sliding. The purpose of sliding is to prevent the enemy to cross the outer city moat. Later in 1902, when there was the need to construct Baan Baat road, the steel rails and the old bridge were demolished and substituted by a new bridge. The new bridge was designed and built by Department of Public Works in the Fifth reign (1868-1910). It is one of the beautiful bridges in Rattanakosin area.

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3.8 Phan Fah Lilat Bridge and King Prajadhipok Museum Building

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3.9 Mahat Thai Uthit Bridge

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jeronimo
February 6th, 2006, 08:02 PM
4 LOWER MIDDLE OF OUTER RATTANAKOSIN

4.1 Rommaneenart Park (The former Central Jail)

The current park area with three western style buildings was initially a jail which had been built and operated from 1890 until a decade ago. It had been used as Bangkok Central Jail until recently when the government realized that a jail with high wall was not appropriate to stand in the heart of the city. After relocating the jail to suburban area in Nontaburi, the government started the area redevelopment and buildings preservation project in 1991. The three main buildings are adapted to be a museum and exhibition hall displaying products manufactured by prisoners. And a vast space inside the former jail is now redeveloped to be a public park, namely Rommaneenart Park. The park is built to celebrate the present Queen' sixtieth birthday.

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4.2 Old Shophouses at Soi Phraya Sri

These old shophouses are located on Sol (alley) Phraya Sri which links Fueng Nokorn and Asdang roads together. The atmosphere is calm and nice because there is a canal (Klong Lot Wat Ratchabopit) at the rear of the shophouses. The area of Sol Phraya Sri is called after the conferred title of Phraya Sri who was an august minister in the Third reign (1824-1851) and had his residence in this area.
The shophouses were built in the Fifth reign (18681910) and were used as commercial stores run by German and English owners. At present, few German shops are still standing. The outstanding features of the shophouses are understood by the plaster pediments at the corner units and the treatment on the thick wall.

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4.3 Old Shophouses on Asdang Road

These old shophouses are on Asdang road. They were built in the Fifth reign (1868-1910) in European-influenced style with beautiful pediments on facades of ending units. During the mid 19th to early 20th century, this area was one of the famous business places where motor car showrooms and boat engine shops were concentrated. At present, the buildings are in poor condition and are mostly housed by truck-transport and warehouse companies.

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4.4 Old Shophouses in Ban Moh Area

Ban Mob is an old place where traditional cooking pot ("Moh" means pot) used to be manufactured. The shophouses were built later and the area has been famous for jewelry shops until now. But lately, number of jewelry shops become smaller while the number of electrical appliances shops increases. Nowadays, old shophouses are still found in the area. The interesting thing is that the shophouse unit at the entrance of an old market has a plaster pot placed on the top of pediment to represent the original activity of the area.

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4.5 Charoen Krung Road

Charoen Krung is one of the earliest roads built during modernization period (about 130 years ago). At its early life, one-storey chophouses with baked clay roof tiles were built on both sides of the road. Later in the fifth reign (1868-1901) two-storey chophouses were built to replace the former structure. At that time Charoen Krung was a popular shopping street. Both sides of the road were plenty of shops and retail stores of imported goods. Although today the commercial activity is no longer flourishing, some units of old chophouses and old stores still remain to reflect the old atmosphere.

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4.6 Sri Chan Building

This commercial building is believed to be built in the Fifth reign. It had 3 floors at the beginning and the additional floor was built later. The early use of Sri Chan Building was a pharmaceutical store owned by Dr. Leng Srichan. At present, the use has been changed into an audio appliances shop. It is the only building left in Rattanakosin that expresses what the single commercial building on the famous Charoen Krung road looked like about a hundred years ago.

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4.7 Damrong Sathit Bridge

This bridge was built to cross the outer city moat and link the inner and outer parts of Charoen Krung road. Actually, there had been a steel-structured bridge with wooden floor since the Fourth reign (1851-1868) in this area. The original bridge was replaced by another steel bridge in the Fifth reign (1868-1910). At that time, Charoen Krung road as well as the new bridge were widened.
During widening the bridge, a city gate called "Sam Yod" and some parts of the wall and a gate of the palace of Prince Damrong Rachanubharp had to be demolished. The steel bridge was replaced again with the concrete structure in the Seventh reign (1825-1934) and lastly, was widened in the present reign.

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shrunkenhead
February 6th, 2006, 09:05 PM
Wow, great info, Khun Jeronimo. Thanks for posting this up.

Saigoneseguy
February 7th, 2006, 01:30 AM
:stunned: Beautiful! Look pretty much like some streets in Saigon!

Jo
February 7th, 2006, 02:49 AM
Thank you jeronimo for this thread, it must have taken some time to compile. I hope it doesn't disappear, like some other interesting topics have in the past.

I walked from Chinatown to Pra Athit yesterday, and there are actually a lot of fine old buildings out there... but they are often in serious need of restoration.

jeronimo
February 7th, 2006, 03:21 AM
Yes, it's sad but true that most Thais never care much about old buildings, environments and aesthetic looks of urbanscape. The mindset of an average Thai to these issues still lacks behind that of the Europeans, even of that of our Asian neighbours.

Nongkhai_tong
February 7th, 2006, 06:35 AM
Beautiful power lines. ~_~"

satit28
February 7th, 2006, 06:45 AM
thanks for the collection...............

Speed
February 7th, 2006, 07:03 AM
:stunned: Beautiful! Look pretty much like some streets in Saigon!

also Hanoi.....I luv the old colonial buildings in Hanoi (they seem to be all painted yellow for some reason).....

Speed
February 7th, 2006, 07:05 AM
wonderful Jeronimo ..I hope we also preserve and protect great and interesting heritage places.....

Mosaic
February 7th, 2006, 08:06 AM
Fantastic thread indeed, Khun, Jeronimo. It has proved to be really informative and interesting collection...really worth to see and read them.

Odonto
February 7th, 2006, 11:51 AM
Wow, Stunning thread. It indeed looks colonial. What about Bangkok's Champs Elysées avenue? Rachadamneon?

cHemon
February 8th, 2006, 02:44 AM
Exellent thread krub :okay:

Jo
September 2nd, 2006, 09:44 PM
Okay everyone, this thread IS great and needed. But what do you all think about the buildings, show examples, which is your favourite, what reatoration efforts are most urgent? This is a too important and proud part of our city to be ignored. It shouldn't stop at 16 posts.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/joprb/classarch/4b732367.jpg

kiku99
September 4th, 2006, 04:12 PM
these buildings should really be preserved more. :)

pon
September 4th, 2006, 04:32 PM
Looking at these pictures of retro building, one of the most needed is to get rid of powerlines and cables.

Chad
September 7th, 2006, 03:10 AM
http://static.flickr.com/52/131664108_1bf4a4e347_o.jpg

Jo
September 7th, 2006, 03:33 AM
^^ Ministry of Defence HO, constructed 1882-1884 AD

I imagine St. Petersburg looks a bit like that, but without tuk-tuks :)

Chad
September 7th, 2006, 03:42 AM
What kind of architecture is it?

Looks to me very european.

kiku99
September 7th, 2006, 03:48 AM
Looking at these pictures of retro building, one of the most needed is to get rid of powerlines and cables.
yes, and maybe repainting :) I really like that area of Bangkok lah...

Jo
September 7th, 2006, 03:54 AM
Chad, according to a book I'm looking in it's "Neoclassic architecture of Neo-Palladian style"

The architect was Italian - Mr Gioachino Grassi

KENDO
September 10th, 2006, 01:16 AM
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7933/93393dsc0291wj1.jpg

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/6402/100441dsc0285sd4.jpg

pon
September 10th, 2006, 11:11 AM
That looks nice Khun Kendo. but only if there is no those powerlines... :(

Mosaic
September 22nd, 2006, 07:23 PM
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l269/mosaic_tu/2006-09-16/P9170005.jpg


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l269/mosaic_tu/2006-09-16/P9170006.jpg


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l269/mosaic_tu/2006-09-16/P9170007.jpg

Mosaic
September 22nd, 2006, 07:26 PM
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l269/mosaic_tu/Flickr/flickr_30.jpg


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l269/mosaic_tu/Flickr/flickr_29.jpg

Jo
September 24th, 2006, 05:33 PM
Nice :)
That white, creamy yellow + green color combo seems to have been commonly used in the past.

shrunkenhead
September 29th, 2006, 02:24 AM
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l269/mosaic_tu/Flickr/flickr_30.jpg


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l269/mosaic_tu/Flickr/flickr_29.jpg

These are very nice shots, Khun Mosaic. They really give good indications of what Bangkok may have looked like years ago. I wish more of the old Bangkok would have this feel to it. I really love the fact that there is no large awful billboards and posters around. Thank you.

Jo
October 15th, 2006, 04:17 AM
Time for a little rant, since I have nothing better to do. Sorry :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/joprb/classarch/d7e72f28.jpg

How to destroy a fine building in eight (or seven) easy steps:

From top to bottom..
- addon/neighbour in a wildly different architectural style
- old addon in a conflicting style, but imo it's quite nice
- cheap windows with ugly aluminum framing
- the usual wires
- compressor could be placed somewhere else
- ugly ads. will get dirty and wrinkly in no time
- concrete poles are the ugliest of all poles
- bleh

Jo
December 28th, 2006, 12:05 PM
This used to be the longest building in the world, according to Google Earth, before it was cut in half during WW2
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/joprb/06/1d3b93e2.jpg

kiku99
December 28th, 2006, 01:57 PM
This used to be the longest building in the world, according to Google Earth, before it was cut in half during WW2
oh really...interesting.:)

kiku99
December 28th, 2006, 01:58 PM
btw, those direction signs look nice.:okay:

etihuu
December 30th, 2006, 07:21 AM
^^ :okay:
the suankularb building is charming as always...
really miss my high-school time :)

cHemon
March 24th, 2007, 05:28 AM
Found on Flickr

have no idea where this building is

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/176/431733876_965ffd6c09_b.jpg

Jo
March 24th, 2007, 05:36 AM
Looks great.. and I'm not joking :)

satit28
March 24th, 2007, 01:51 PM
is there any one livin there???.........
cos there's an air-con..........

Hitesh
March 24th, 2007, 06:14 PM
Looks great.. and I'm not joking :)

I agree. I wish someone would restore it.

TopperCity
March 25th, 2007, 03:19 AM
^^ :okay:
the suankularb building is charming as always...
really miss my high-school time :)

Ah, does that long building belong to Suankularb, Mr. Pink & Blue?

Nice one!

Green & Yellow here. ;)

cHemon
March 25th, 2007, 10:39 AM
Flickr

It would be perfect without powerlines and the green mini bus!
:lol:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/104/307266545_a5fc57ab44_o.jpg

atom
March 25th, 2007, 11:09 AM
I thought mini bus has helped Bangkok to be a vibrant place especially, passengers :)
Colonial style bulidings alway interesting for me.

thainotts
March 25th, 2007, 05:29 PM
^^ You forgot the traffic ;). Without the traffic as well.

thainotts
March 25th, 2007, 05:31 PM
I thought mini bus has helped Bangkok to be a vibrant place especially, passengers :)
Colonial style bulidings alway interesting for me.

Minibuses = ????? The Thai God of the Underworld. They're both green (or is he red? I'm getting my ?????????? images mixed up), fat, and have a tendency to take away life.

Zoowatch
March 25th, 2007, 05:38 PM
talking about buses...

will i be seeing some sort of a MTA (mass transit authority) overseeing all of the bus concessions (instread of BMTA) in my lifetime?

I last heard about this early last year and so far they were all hot air.

as long as BMTA is still taking charge of this, the green minibus will always be a scourge of bangkok commuters' life

atom
March 26th, 2007, 03:15 AM
Minibuses = ????? The Thai God of the Underworld. They're both green (or is he red? I'm getting my ?????????? images mixed up), fat, and have a tendency to take away life.
Totally true.

cHemon
March 26th, 2007, 03:41 AM
^^ You forgot the traffic ;). Without the traffic as well.

But I prefer having those colourful taxis on the street.

:D

cHemon
March 26th, 2007, 07:03 PM
Flickr

Very classic!
:)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/54/176635592_39b6825cf6_o.jpg

KENDO
April 2nd, 2007, 04:24 PM
อาคาร 9 ห้อง โฉมใหม่บนถนนพระอาทิตย์

โดย ผู้จัดการออนไลน์ 2 เมษายน 2550 18:09 น.

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/808/550000003858901mz9.jpg

อาคารอนุรักษ์ที่ได้รับการบูรณะจากสำนักงานทรัพย์สินฯทั้ง 9 ห้อง

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/9969/550000003858902xz5.jpg

สีสันใหม่ของอาคารอนุรักษ์บนถนนพระอาทิตย์

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/8458/550000003858903xo1.jpg

ด้านข้างของอาคารอนุรักษ์มีสวนหย่อมเล็กๆประดับ

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/4108/550000003858904ar7.jpg

สีสันใหม่กับสีสันบนถนนพระอาทิตย์

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/2621/550000003858905ae3.jpg

อาคารอนุรักษ์ที่ได้รับการบูรณะแล้ว

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3253/550000003858906tz2.jpg

ในอาคารแต่ละห้อง เจ้าของจะเป็นคนซ่อมแซมและตกแต่งภายในเอง


"ถนนพระอาทิตย์" นับเป็นหนึ่งในถนนสายวัฒนธรรมอันโดดเด่นของกรุงเทพฯ เป็นถนนที่มีเอกลักษณ์ มากไปด้วยสีสัน และความผสมกลมกลืนกันระหว่างวัฒนธรรมเก่า-ใหม่

สำหรับสิ่งที่เป็นดังสัญลักษณ์ของถนนพระอาทิตย์ก็คงจะหนีไม่พ้น"ป้อมพระสุเมรุ"อันสวยงามที่ตั้งโดดเด่นเป็นสง่าอยู่ริมถนนคู่กับ "สวนสันติชัยปราการ" สวนสาธารณะที่เต็มไปด้วยสีสันอันหลากหลาย

นอกจากนี้ บนถนนพระอาทิตย์ยังมีอาคารเก่าแก่ทรงคุณค่าตั้งอยู่อีกหลายหลัง อาทิ บ้านพระอาทิตย์ บ้านเจ้าพระยา บ้านมะลิวัลย์ อาคารยูเนสโก ฯลฯ ส่วนที่ รวมไปถึงอาคาร 9 ห้อง(ปากซอยชนะสงคราม)อาคารชุดเก่าแก่ที่สวยงามและมีรูปแบบเฉพาะตัว ซึ่งล่าสุดทางสำนักงานทรัพย์สินส่วนพระมหากษัตริย์ได้เข้ามาบูรณะปรับปรุงพร้อมทั้งอนุรักษ์โครงสร้างแบบเดิมเอาไว้

ผศ.ดร.ยงธนิศร์ พิมลเสถียร อาจารย์ประจำคณะสถาปัตยกรรมและผังเมือง มหาวิทยาลัยธรรมศาสตร์ และกรรมาธิการอนุรักษ์ศิลปะสถาปัตยกรรม เล่าถึงความเป็นมาเป็นไปในการบูรณะอาคาร 9 ห้อง ว่า แต่เดิมที่คนส่วนมากมักจะเข้าใจกันอยู่ก็คือ ทางสำนักงานให้ผู้เช่าทำการปรับปรุงกันเอง แต่ตอนนี้ในกรณีของอาคารที่เป็นอาคารอนุรักษ์ถ้าต่างคนต่างปรับปรุงมันไปกันคนละทิศคนละทาง อย่างในกรณีของ 9 ห้องนี้ ก็คือทางสำนักงานทรัพย์สินฯได้ปรับปรุงให้เป็นรูปแบบเดียวกัน ซ่อมแซมส่วนที่มันขาดหายไปให้นำกลับมาสู่สภาพเดิม

ทั้งนี้โครงการบูรณะอาคารอนุรักษ์ 9 ห้อง ถือเป็นโครงการแรกที่สำนักงานทรัพย์สินฯทำ เพื่อต้องการให้เป็นต้นแบบในการเรียนรู้งานอนุรักษ์ของสำนักงานทรัพย์สินฯ ว่าผลจากการพัฒนาจะมีผลดีผลเสียอย่างไร โดยได้เริ่มดำเนินการมาตั้งแต่กลางปีพ.ศ. 2546 เริ่มจากลงมือรื้อทำอาคารทั้ง 9 ห้อง ในเดือนมิถุนาคม 2549 กระทั่งแล้วเสร็จในเดือนมกราคม 2550 ที่ผ่านมา (สำนักงานทรัพย์สินฯได้ทำการบูรณะภายนอกและพื้นที่ภายในบางส่วน โดยที่เหลือทางเจ้าห้องของจะเป็นผู้ซ่อมแซมปรับปรุงเอง)

ส่วนในเรื่องของการทำงานอาจารย์ยงธนิศร์กล่าวว่า "ตอนแรกทางสำนักงานทรัพย์สินฯ ขอให้ผมและนักศึกษาจากมหาวิทยาลัยธรรมศาสตร์ไปตรวจเช็คสภาพอาคารก่อนการปรับปรุงว่าเขาอยู่กันอย่างไร แล้วก็พบว่ามันมีปัญหาเยอะในเรื่องของสาธารณูปโภคเดิม เช่น ท่อระบายน้ำที่น้ำท่วมส่งกลิ่นเหม็น อากาศชื้น เราก็มาทำเป็นแบบก่อนการปรับปรุง จากนั้นเราก็ให้ผู้เช่ามาดูแบบใหม่ที่ทำขึ้นว่าถ้าทำแบบนี้มันจะแก้ปัญหาตรงนี้ได้ ซึ่งในตอนแรกเขาก็ไม่เห็นด้วยในการทำ แต่หลังจากที่ได้ประชุมกันหลายๆครั้ง เขาก็รู้สึกว่ามันถึงเวลาแล้วที่จะต้องปรับปรุง"

ในขั้นแรกต้องใช้วิธีในการพูดคุยกับทางชุมชนให้เกิดความเข้าใจที่ตรงกันถึงวัตถุประสงค์ หลักการก็คือทางสำนักงานทรัพย์สินฯ ในฐานะที่เป็นเจ้าของพื้นที่เจ้าของที่ดินก็จะเป็นผู้ออกเงินซ่อมแซมให้ แต่ว่าต้องได้รับการยินยอมจากผู้เช่าด้วย

ส่วนหลักเกณฑ์ในการดูแลงานคือ ต้องคงของเก่าให้ได้มากที่สุด สำหรับอาคารทั้ง 9 ห้อง นั้นจริงๆแล้วก็เป็นอาคารที่น่าจะอนุรักษ์เพราะว่ามันอยู่ในเกาะรัตนโกสินทร์ มีอายุเกิน 50 ปี และก็มีรูปทรงที่มีลักษณะเฉพาะตัวของพื้นที่

โดยทางสำนักงานทรัพย์สินฯได้เข้าไปทำการบูรณะใหม่ทั้งหลัง ทั้งสีทั้งวัสดุ รูปแบบ หลังคา ประตู หน้าต่าง บันได คือสร้างโมเดลอีกก้อนหนึ่งไปโปะทั้งหลังทั้งหมด ทำให้บ้านไม่ทรุด ผนังไม่กร่อน หลังคาไม่รั่ว เมื่อทำแล้วผู้อยู่อาศัยจะใช้เป็นที่อยู่ที่พัก หรือทำร้านขายของก็ได้แล้วแต่ผู้อยู่ แต่ต้องเป็นไปตามกฎข้อห้ามสำหรับอาคารอนุรักษ์ด้วยซึ่งโดยมากผู้อยู่อาศัยมักจะต่อเติมดัดแปลงประตูบานเตี๊ยม หน้าต่างเยอะ เพราะว่าต้องการติดเครื่องปรับอากาศ หรืออาจเพราะว่าของเดิมมันไม่สวย หรือเกิดความชำรุดไม่ได้ซ่อมแซม อีกทั้งเครื่องปรับอากาศก็จะติดกันอย่างเละเทะ ทำให้ภายนอกอาคารดูไม่ค่อยเรียบร้อยสักเท่าไร

เราก็มาดัดแปลงโดยคืนพวกหน้าต่าง ประตูที่เป็นของเดิมให้ ส่วนชั้นสองด้านหน้าที่ต้องทำเป็นแผงๆไว้ ก็เพื่อใช้เป็นที่ซ่อนเครื่องปรับอากาศ เพื่อให้แลดูเป็นรูปแบบเดียวกัน และก็มีการติดป้ายหน้าร้านให้เป็นตำแหน่งเดียวกันจะได้เกิดความเป็นระเบียบเรียบร้อยสวยงาม"

ด้านหลักเกณฑ์ในการเลือกสีอาจารย์ยงธนิศร์เล่าว่า "ตอนแรกก็มีการคุยกันเหมือนกันว่าจะให้สีเหมือนพระอาทิตย์ดีไหม เพราะว่ามันอยู่ในละแวกถนนพระอาทิตย์ เราก็ให้กรรมการหลายฝ่ายช่วยกันดูช่วยกันเลือกว่าควรจะให้สีที่มันดูดีและแตกต่างขึ้นมาหน่อย เพราะจริงๆอาคารอนุรักษ์ในกรุงเทพฯ เขาจะใช้เป็นสีนวลๆครีมๆเป็นส่วนใหญ่ เราก็เลยไม่อยากจะไปฉีกแนว มันมีประกาศกรุงเทพมหานครเรื่องนี้ด้วย สีที่ใช้จะเป็นสีขาว สีครีม สีอะไรต่างๆ คือพยายามที่จะใช้สีอ่อนเป็นพื้นหลักแล้วตัดขอบด้วยสีที่เราเลือก ตกลงเลยได้สีอย่างที่เห็น และสีนี้ก็ใกล้เคียงกับที่กทม.ระบุไว้ เป็นสีที่ดูง่ายๆดูสบายๆ"

ส่วนทางด้านหลังบ้าน ตามกฎหมายทางเดินด้านหลังของตึกแถวต้องเว้นไว้เพื่อให้เป็นทางหนีไฟ แต่ส่วนใหญ่จะปิดทึบกับหมดเพราะกลัวขโมย คือถ้าเราทำให้ถูกกฎหมายมันจะเป็นช่องทางที่ขโมยเข้ามาได้ง่าย แต่ว่าในอีกทางหนึ่งที่กฎหมายกำหนดไว้ก็เพื่อความปลอดภัยในชีวิตขอผู้อยู่อาศัย

ด้านข้างก็ทำเป็นสวนเล็กๆปลูกต้นไม้ โดยผู้อยู่อาศัยทั้ง 9 ห้องจะช่วยกันออกเงินตั้งเป็นกองทุนดูแลส่วนกลางร่วมกัน ทำให้ชุมชนค่อยๆรู้จักกันมากขึ้น สร้างความเหนียวแน่นให้กับชุมชน มีอะไรก็จะได้ช่วยเหลือกัน และถ้าเปิดช่องทางด้านหลังมันสะดวกแก่การหนีไฟก็จริงแต่ว่าต้องช่วยกันดูแลเรื่องขโมยด้วย

สำหรับผู้อยู่อาศัยในอาคารทั้ง 9 ห้องนั้น ต่างก็มีทัศนะต่อการบูรณะซ่อมแซมอาคารหลังนี้แตกต่างกันออกไป โดยเจ้าของร้านสเต็กพริกไทยดำ มีความคิดเห็นว่า "เขาทำให้ดีขึ้นกว่าเดิม ดีขึ้นในเรื่องพื้นที่ใช้สอยเพิ่มขึ้น ความสวยงามความเป็นระเบียบมันเป็นแนวเดียวกันหมด มองจากภายนอกเข้ามาก็ดูสวย ที่เขาเปลี่ยนใหม่คือเขาเพิ่มเติมข้างหลังบ้านขึ้นมา แต่ก่อนมันไม่มีเป็นชั้น แต่เขาต่อเติมหลังบ้านให้เป็น 2 ชั้น เพิ่มห้องน้ำข้างบนให้ด้วย มีบันได้เพิ่มขึ้น เขาก็ถามว่าจะเอาบันไดเก่าไว้หรือเปล่า เราก็เห็นว่าบันไดมันเป็นของเก่าก็เลยให้คงไว้ เรื่องสีก็โอเค มันก็เป็นระเบียบดี เรื่องความปลอดภัยก็โอเค อยู่มา 30 กว่าปีแล้วก็ไม่มีปัญหาอะไร เอาเป็นว่าพอใจทั้งหมดที่ทำให้"

ด้าน อาม่า ร้านทำดอกไม้จันทน์ ผู้พักอาศัยอีกท่านกล่าวว่า "เมื่อทำแล้วก็ต้องเห็นด้วย มันก็อยากจะให้เขาทำใหม่ ของเก่าหลังคารั่ว เก่าแล้ว ทำออกมาแล้วก็พอใจ เรื่องสีก็ชอบ มีสวนเล็กๆก็ดี แต่ด้านความปลอดภัยรู้สึกกลัวๆเหมือนกัน"

ในขณะที่ผู้พักอาศัยร้านเมี้ยงให้ความเห็นที่แตกต่างออกไปว่า "ร้านเมี้ยงเป็นร้านอาหาร พอมีการจัดการใหม่เราก็ต้องทำใหม่หมดเลย ทั้ง ครัวด้านหลัง ห้องน้ำ แล้วมีปัญหาในเรื่องของบันไดที่ทำให้ใหม่เพราะด้านหน้าของเรามีบันไดอยู่แล้ว มันเป็นบันไดเก่า ถ้าจะเอาออกมันก็เสียคุณค่าของบันไดเก่าไป เลยกลายเป็นร้านนี้มีบันได 2 จุดติดกัน ส่วนเรื่องสีก็ไม่ค่อยชอบ คิดว่าของเก่ามันดีอยู่แล้ว แต่ถ้าจะให้พูดถึงมันจะได้เป็นหนึ่งเดียวกันมันก็ดีเหมือนกัน แต่ถ้ามองสไตล์โดยส่วนตัวคิดว่าแต่ก่อนมันมีเอกลักษณ์ของมันอยู่แล้ว พอมันโดนเปลี่ยนไปเลยรู้สึกเสียดายนิดหน่อยที่ต้องเปลี่ยนไป"

ส่วนในเรื่องของการท่องเที่ยว อรนุช อิ่มอารมณ์ เจ้าหน้าที่สำนักงานทรัพย์สินส่วนพระมหากษัตริย์ กล่าวว่า จริงๆย่านนี้มันเป็นย่านท่องเที่ยวอยู่แล้ว จากข้าวสารผ่านวัดชนะสงครามมายังถนนพระอาทิตย์ ถนนตรงนี้ก็เหมือนถนนสายวัฒนธรรมมันมีเทศกาลมีแหล่งพักผ่อนหย่อนใจมีชมวัดชมวัง ซึ่งในอนาคตเขาอาจจะพาชมวังเก่าๆบนถนนสายนี้ เช่นบ้านมะลิวัลย์ บางทีเด็กๆมาแล้วเห็นว่าบ้านหลังนี้สวย แต่ไม่รู้ว่าอะไรเป็นอย่างไร เราจะมีการเพิ่มความรู้เกี่ยวกับความเป็นมาของบ้านหรือวังเก่าทั้งภาษาไทยและภาษาอังกฤษ เพราะถนนแห่งนี้มีชาวต่างชาติเยอะ

"ในเรื่องของการบูรณะอาคารทั้ง 9 ห้องนั้น คิดว่ามันจะช่วยให้การท่องเที่ยวในย่านนี้ดีขึ้น เพราะเมื่อทางสำนักงานทรัพย์สินฯทำการบูรณะแล้วมันดูสวยงามขึ้น เป็นระเบียบ เป็นทิศทางเดียวกัน มันจะเกิดเป็นเอกลักษณ์ของพื้นที่ ดังนั้นมันจึงเกิดความน่าสนใจ น่าเดิน น่ามาเยือน และไม่ใช่แต่กับคนไทยเท่านั้น ชาวต่างชาติก็อยากที่จะเข้ามาชมเช่นกัน" อรนุช กล่าวทิ้งท้าย

shrunkenhead
April 2nd, 2007, 11:05 PM
Excellent conservation program! Hope to see more old buildings revived through out old Bangkok.

kiku99
April 3rd, 2007, 03:43 AM
excellent kab:) they should do on other old buldings in that area and other areas as well. :okay:

cHemon
May 6th, 2007, 10:48 PM
from flickr

It's really in Rattanakosin, but ....:)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/221/468261407_b7d14fd3a4_b.jpg

cHemon
May 6th, 2007, 10:54 PM
Flickr

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/178/430976107_45ef2ec093_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/160/418636994_2d92ade478_b.jpg

atom
May 6th, 2007, 11:11 PM
from flickr

It's really in Rattanakosin, but ....:)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/221/468261407_b7d14fd3a4_b.jpg
Rattanakosin in the middle of Bangrak :)

cHemon
May 7th, 2007, 05:55 PM
Oooopsssss........

I meant "It's NOT really in Rattanakosin"

:D

kiku99
May 8th, 2007, 03:20 PM
the State tower entrance is so hugeee..

cHemon
June 25th, 2007, 05:16 PM
flickr

very Bangkok
overhead cables...non-aircon bus...tuk tuk....:)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1231/620114149_4942aad672_b.jpg

weirdo
June 27th, 2007, 06:47 AM
i love the architecture of these buildings. i kinda like the overhead cables, they seem to add character to the areas. then again, maybe i'm just used to these black wires.

cHemon
June 27th, 2007, 08:02 AM
Aurum, The River Place
A boutique hotel on the bank of the Chao Phraya River near the flower market

flickr
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/181/368969836_0647471750_o.jpg

cHemon
June 27th, 2007, 08:12 AM
I think this is the same place as in post#52

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/54/176633737_a9b199838c_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/73/176633923_3047247250_o.jpg

cHemon
July 1st, 2007, 05:38 PM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1263/678088881_e209b27993_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1073/678088867_02f3ea08d2_b.jpg

Jo
July 1st, 2007, 06:00 PM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1263/678088881_e209b27993_b.jpg
Vivi, The Coffee Place is not bad. Good place for taking in the river view :cheers2:

PADTHAI
July 2nd, 2007, 05:57 AM
Btw, have a question. It's obvious that the old town was planned on a European model. But the rest of Bangkok has no real plan (until recently). Does this mean there used to be a Bangkok planning department, and they just stopped caring? or they lost influence? or did Europeans plan rattanakosin but were not 'hired' to do any of the 'modern' city?

Just curious of our history -how did we go from so well planned to so little planning so fast?

Anyone know???

Thanks :->

Zoowatch
July 2nd, 2007, 02:37 PM
Btw, have a question. It's obvious that the old town was planned on a European model. But the rest of Bangkok has no real plan (until recently). Does this mean there used to be a Bangkok planning department, and they just stopped caring? or they lost influence? or did Europeans plan rattanakosin but were not 'hired' to do any of the 'modern' city?

Just curious of our history -how did we go from so well planned to so little planning so fast?

Anyone know???

Thanks :->

the downtown has a city plan all along, but they were never seriously and consistently enforced... the haphazard way of doing things is pretty much our national trait

PADTHAI
July 3rd, 2007, 04:46 AM
But that doesn't explain how it didn't use to be when they built rattanakosin. Still suggests it's a recent trait, or someone else built the old town!!

thainotts
July 3rd, 2007, 06:30 AM
^^ I've no idea, but the main roads we see nowadays mostly used to be provincial highways which were "soi-ed". I suppose the actual development just didn't fit with the plans.

PADTHAI
July 3rd, 2007, 02:19 PM
Suppose so. Just started to muse over what an interesting contrast it is; usually in the West you see the opposite - old towns are a Medieval mess of small sois and the new town is modern and straight!