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Alvin
December 4th, 2004, 01:59 PM
Post all Jakarta Monorail related news and construction pics here, I think this project deserves its own thread :)

All info posted below are from http://www.i-transitcentral.co.id/

http://www.jktmonorail.com/images/jktmonoraillogo.gif http://www.jakartamonorail.com/jmconstruct.gif

Jakarta Monorail

THE PROJECT:
EAST-WEST PROJECT:
PHASE I : JAKARTA CORRIDOR

The area around and including, Jakarta is known as Jabotabek, the name deriving from the first letter of constituent cities of Jakarta, Bogor, Tangerang and Bekasi. The initial plan is to have a modern, elevated light rail system known as Automated People Mover (APM) connection from east to west of Jabotabek area, starting from the east; i.e. Cikarang (District of Bekasi) to Bekasi City, to Jakarta and then to the west to Tangerang. The total length from east to west is estimated 70 kilometer.

The project is planned for 3 (Three) Phases i.e.:
Phase I : Jakarta Corridor (27Km)
- Stage I : Green Line (14Km)
- Stage II : Blue Line (13Km)
Phase II : Jakarta to Bekasi and Cikarang (18-30 Km)
Phase III : Jakarta to Tangerang ang Karawaci (16-25 Km)

Jakarta is treated as a separate administrative area, with a special status of a provenience (or level I local authority) as the capital or Ibukota. Since the main concentration of people movement centered in Jakarta, it is important to establish the system in Jakarta first in Phase I before building the network connection to East an West of Jakarta. The total trip within Jakarta Area in year 2001 was estimated at 9 million trip per day where the trip from east – west of Jakarta was estimated at 2 million trip per day (CTS), (2003). The proposal of Jakarta corridor which consist of 2 lines of services is intended to solve some of the transportation problems in the corridor.

Bogor and Bekasi is in the province of West Java and Tangerang is recently becoming part of Banten province. Both tangerang and Bekasi are divided into two level II authorities, Kotamadya Tangerang (City of Tangerang) and Kabupaten Tangerang (District of Tangerang) and City of Bekasi and District of Bekasi.

Population projection for Jakarta, Botabek shows that Jakarta will have a population of approximately 12 million by 2016, an increase of 2 million over the current 2002 population. The population of Jabotabek will be approximately 30 million which incorporates and almost doubling the Botabek population from 10 to 20 million. Currently, Tangerang has 4,2 million population and Bekasi has 3,5 million population (Bekasi City 1,6 million and Bekasi District 1,9 million).


MAP:http://www.i-transitcentral.co.id/news_images/Jakarta%20Monorail%20Blue%20&%20Green%20Line%20Alignment.JPG

David-80
December 4th, 2004, 06:13 PM
Hey, did you hear what the Tokyo mayor said when he was in Jakarta for the asian city meeting? He said, building Monorail is better than Subway. I agree with him, especially in Jakarta.

cheers

Yamauchi
December 4th, 2004, 11:38 PM
The population of Jabotabek will be approximately 30 million which incorporates and almost doubling the Botabek population from 10 to 20 million.
:eek2:

macgyver
December 5th, 2004, 03:21 AM
http://www.jakartamonorail.com/jmconstruct.gif

MAP:http://www.i-transitcentral.co.id/news_images/Jakarta%20Monorail%20Blue%20&%20Green%20Line%20Alignment.JPG

Guys .. don't you think the distance between the station is a little bit too far ?
I think they people will prefer Mikrolet ... where they can get off only 20 - 100 meter from their office.

See : Between Gran Melia and Satria Mandala ... If your office is at Wisma Mulia, Menara Jamsostek ... Where d u get off ? ... satria Mandala ? It's almost 500 meter.

Also Pejompongan to Karet ....

I think it is better to make just like in KOMDAK, KUSUMA CHANDRA, BEJ, STADION UTAMA .... they are closer to each other ...and closer to business activities

David-80
December 5th, 2004, 09:51 AM
LOL, Thats true, maybe they want them to take busway after monorail :lol:

cheers

ryanr
December 5th, 2004, 10:57 AM
Nice!! but i agree with mac, the stations are a bit far from each other.

kikitielman
December 5th, 2004, 03:11 PM
i agree that monorail is more suitable for jakarta rather than a subway, i'm just scared that if we build subway (especially in northern jakarta) if will sink down or it will get flooded just a two cents of mine thinking that those parts of jakarta are actually a swamp :bash: and it's not have a decent foundation with only 2.5 metres above the sea level, it going to be scary

Yamauchi
December 14th, 2004, 01:08 AM
Construction in central Jakarta:

http://www.thejakartapost.com/caption/1212msa04.jpg

budi2006
December 14th, 2004, 04:56 AM
Monorail developer warns of more traffic woes ahead
Damar Harsanto, The Jakarta Post, 14 December 2004

As the monorail construction work started again after it stopped for months, the project developer made a public apology on Monday for the traffic disruption it has caused, suggesting the public avoid the affected streets.

This week, PT Jakarta Monorail simultaneously started work from Jl. Palmerah to Jl. Pejompongan, Central Jakarta, from Jl. Karet Pasar Baru, Central Jakarta, to Jl. HR Rasuna Said, South Jakarta, and from the Ambassador Mall in South Jakarta to Jl. KH Mas Mansyur in Central Jakarta.

"The construction definitely affects the traffic. We apologize for the inconvenience caused ... we will cooperate with the City Transportation Agency to help reroute traffic in those spots," technical head of the monorail project, R. Bovanantoo, told a media briefing here on Monday.

Aside from the three locations, the consortium also continued with construction work on Jl. Asia Afrika on Monday.

The Jakarta administration urged investors last week to go ahead with the project as there was no significant progress seen since it started in June.

PT Jakarta Monorail director Sukmawaty Syukur argued that the company had to make some changes in the project.

"We don't want to rush in without an accurate blueprint," she asserted.

Since the groundbreaking ceremony presided over by president Megawati Soekarnoputri, the consortium has made several major changes in the monorail route.

It had altered the Blue Line route to Kampung Melayu, East Jakarta, - Mal Taman Anggrek, West Jakarta, from the initial Kampung Melayu - Roxy shopping center route.

The company has also rerouted its Green Line through prime business areas -- Kuningan, Sudirman and Senayan -- as the State Secretary opposed the use of the Bung Karno Sports Complex in Senayan.

Sukmawaty denied that the project had hit a snag due to financial problems as most foreign investors had yet to disburse their funds for the project.

However, she admitted that some foreign financial institutions, like the Asian Development Bank, Islamic Development Bank and the Japan Bank for International Cooperation (JBIC) had requested the company to complete some documents required to process the loans.

"Those documents include several gubernatorial decrees on the area used for the monorail project," she said.

Despite the obstructions, the company said that it would be able to finish the project on time.

The Green Line is to be finished by the end of 2006, while the Blue Line in early 2007.

Mahaputra
January 13th, 2005, 01:24 AM
any news about monorail? pics maybe?

tata
February 3rd, 2005, 02:30 PM
Hi guys I'm back....
Here's what I found in Kompas today, hopefully with this they can fast-track build our monorail..
tata


Peraturan Gubernur DKI untuk Membangun Monorel Diterbitkan


Jakarta, Kompas - Setelah berbulan-bulan menunggu surat keputusan peruntukan jalur monorel, Gubernur DKI Jakarta Sutiyoso akhirnya menerbitkan Peraturan Gubernur Provinsi DKI Nomor 8 Tahun 2005. Peraturan itu berisi penguasaan perencanaan atau peruntukan bidang tanah untuk pelaksanaan pembangunan jalur monorel Kampung Melayu-Taman Anggrek (blue line) dan monorel dalam kota (green line).

Dokumen peraturan gubernur diterima Kompas di Jakarta, Rabu (2/2) sore. Berkas itu sudah ditandatangani Gubernur Sutiyoso pada 10 Januari lalu. Setelah diproses secara administratif, peraturan gubernur itu lalu diundangkan secara resmi pada 24 Januari 2005.

Ditanya soal seberapa besar keseriusan Gubernur Sutiyoso dalam membangun monorel, Kepala Hubungan Masyarakat dan Protokol Provinsi DKI Catur Laswanto menjelaskan, dalam rapat terbatas beberapa waktu lalu, Sutiyoso menyebutkan keseriusannya membangun pola transportasi di Jakarta. Mengingat usianya yang terus bertambah, Sutiyoso ingin membangun sesuatu yang monumental. "Istilah Jawa, Gubernur Sutiyoso tidak ingin neko-neko lagi. Sesudah satu periode menjabat sebagai gubernur, Sutiyoso cuma ingin memfokuskan pada pembangunan Ibu Kota ini," kata Catur.

Menurut catatan Kompas, sejak Desember 2004, PT Jakarta Monorel sebetulnya mengharapkan surat keputusan (SK) penetapan jalur monorel. Penerbitan SK itu tampaknya masih terganjal karena Sekretariat Negara (Setneg) menduga jalur monorel itu akan menghilangkan lapangan softball atau baseball (Kompas, 10/12).

Selain menyebutkan jalur-jalur monorel, peraturan gubernur itu juga menyebutkan bahwa gubernur menugaskan Kepala Dinas Perhubungan DKI Jakarta untuk mengamankan bidang tanah atau lokasi baik langsung maupun tak langsung dari bangunan, hunian, dan benda-benda yang berada di atasnya, dalam areal penguasaan perencanaan atau peruntukan bidang tanah untuk pembangunan monorel.

Pasal lainnya juga disebutkan, Sekretaris Daerah Provinsi DKI Jakarta diminta menyosialisasikan kepada masyarakat mengenai batas perencanaan pelaksanaan pembangunan jalur monorel dan mengoordinasikan dengan pimpinan unit kerja di lingkungan Pemerintah Provinsi DKI untuk melaksanakan dan mengamankan pelaksanaan pembangunan monorel sesuai dengan peraturan perundang-undangan.

Dengan terbitnya peraturan itu, pihak PT Jakarta Monorel kini mengharapkan dukungan Setneg dalam pembangunan jalur monorel. Setidaknya, Setneg memberikan izin pengukuran lahan, terutama di kawasan pintu satu Gelora Bung Karno, untuk pembangunan jalur monorel. (OSA)

Alvin
February 3rd, 2005, 03:35 PM
http://www.i-transitcentral.co.id/news_images/bluegreen.JPG

David-80
February 3rd, 2005, 05:14 PM
Thanks for the map, so subway and busway will have the same route?

cheers

tata
February 3rd, 2005, 08:20 PM
Another monorail lines? How reliable is this news?
Tata

News from beritajakarta.com:


3 JAN 2005

Dikaji, Monorel Jalur Ancol-Mangga Dua-Kelapa Gading


Tak mau kalah dengan PT Jakarta Monorail, PT Pembangunan Jaya Ancol (PT PJA) kini berencana mengkaji pembangunan sarana transportasi rel ringan tersebut. Ada dua konsep monorel yang akan dipelajari yaitu monorel internal yang menempuh jalur dalam kawasan Taman Impian Jaya Ancol (TIJA). Selain itu, juga akan diadakan studi kelayakan untuk membangun jaringan monorel yang menghubungkan Ancol-Mangga Dua-Kelapa Gading.

"Jadi, bila terealisir pengunjung nanti mendapat fasilitas transportasi yang lebih baik saat mengunjungi tempat-tempat di TIJA dan kawasan lainnya," ujar Presiden Direktur (Presdir) PT PJA Budi Karya Sumadi di Jakarta, Jumat (31/12).

Menurut Budi, pihaknya harus melakukan riset yang komprehensif sehingga ketika diturunkan dalam bentuk kegiatan, rencana pembangunan monorel itu bisa terlaksaan dengan baik. "Kita butuh waktu sekitar enam bulan untuk mengkaji semua rencana itu," tutur dia.

Ia mengaku, PT PJA tidak mungkin melaksanakan sendiri proyek tersebut. "Investor memang kita butuhkan dan kita masih membuka diri untuk investor lain jika tertarik dengan rencana kita. Sudah ada dua investor dari Jerman yang menyatakan tertarik untuk masuk sebagai investor pelaksana monorel."

Budi mengatakan, salah satu sering menjadi keluhan pengunjung adalah jarak antar tempat wisata yang akan dikunjungi di TIJA cukup berjauhan. "Kalau semua mengandalkan mobil, apalagi pada saat peak season bisa menimbulkan kemacetan di dalam TIJA," jelas dia.

Dengan adanya monorel di dalam TIJA diharapkan pengunjung memiliki alternatif transportasi yang bebas macet. "Lagipula tidak dipungut biaya kok, gratis,"katanya. Nantinya, setiap wahana atau lokasi wisata yang banyak dikunjungi pengunjung akan dibangun stasiun-stasiun pemberhentian monorel.

Sebagai informasi, dalam kondisi peak season, diperkirakan jumlah pengunjung di TIJA bisa mencapai 200-300 ribu pengunjung dalam semalam.

Selain pembangunan monorel, PT PJA juga berencana menambah lokasi parkir untuk menampung kendaraan pengunjung yang masuk. Prioritas utama jatuh pada eks gedung mobil (drive in) yang akan dikembangkan menjadi gedung bertingkat khusus untuk parkir. Selain itu, ada juga pantai mutiara dan beberapa titik lainnya yang akan segera dibangun gedung parkir.

tata
February 3rd, 2005, 08:24 PM
Hi Alvin, are those dotted-line representing subway lines? And from where do you get this map?
tata

Alvin
February 4th, 2005, 12:44 AM
Hi Alvin, are those dotted-line representing subway lines? And from where do you get this map?
tata

Only that larger dotted line represents the subway, I don't know about the other one.

Source: http://www.i-transitcentral.co.id/

David: Yes, the subway line is identical to the Busway first corridor, that's why there was talk that once the subway is operational that corridor would be disbanded.

sanhen
February 4th, 2005, 04:51 AM
I think the old busway line will be demolished once MRT is operational. There's no point having two lines of public transport like that.

I wish when the time come, instead returning the busway line function to car friendly, they choose to build something human friendly. A wide pedestarian walk... a garden... some retail plaza................ the pedestarian walk can even be used for carnival etc

Fir3blaze
February 4th, 2005, 09:26 AM
wow...another monorail route to ancol? That'd be cool. If they really constructing it, i hope it's connected to other forms of transport, preferably to some busway route and the other monorail lines. Only then would it be effective.

Sanhen, i agree with you. Indonesian cities need to pay more attention to padestrian. :)

sanhen
February 4th, 2005, 11:35 AM
Yeah... that would be coooooooooooooooooooool.
All public place connected with public transport is what we need now.

tata
February 4th, 2005, 11:45 AM
do any of you who resides in Jakarta see real/actual progress in monorail construction?
tata

David-80
February 4th, 2005, 02:37 PM
Yeah, especially in palmerah.

cheers

sanhen
February 4th, 2005, 03:00 PM
Why Palmerah, David?

David-80
February 4th, 2005, 03:15 PM
a week ago, that was massive construction on that area, putting the blocks all together, creating traffic jam..plus the heavy rain caused more problem. :bash:

cheers

sanhen
February 4th, 2005, 05:05 PM
Oh..... speaking about heavy rain.. this is out of topic:

Melbourne was flooded again last Wednesday/Thursday hahaha. You should see the CBD.. it was filled with leaves and fallen branch. And at MCG, two cranes pushed by strong wind and collided. Lucky it does not hit MCG new roof hehehe. Luna park was flooded, the gate looks like drinking water. The yarra was overflowing too. At South Gate, the first level of promenade is totally flooded. And, once again, you can ride a boat at Princess Highway :)

Too bad I was late for work. Or I will shot some pics.

David-80
February 4th, 2005, 05:13 PM
Holy crap, I saw it on ABC asia pacific. I am glad though, little lonsdale is okay. I was surprise though the tram is still running during that heavy rain and flooding. Btw in central and part of sulawesi, there were heavy rain.

1 lion air plane slipped out of runway because of that in Makassar

cheers

sanhen
February 4th, 2005, 05:18 PM
CBD was okay. Except those close to the yarra. Tram was okay too. But Train network severely shutdown in the morning.

tata
February 4th, 2005, 09:00 PM
Yeah, especially in palmerah.

cheers


Any pic Dave?


Comment on new route: the distance between station on blue line is too far especially those between Casablanca interchange and Karet Interchange...

tata

tata
February 4th, 2005, 09:11 PM
Surabaya plan for Monorail
Tata


Dec 2, 2004

Koridor Utara-Selatan, Ya Monorel !

Surabaya, Surya - Pemerintah Kota Surabaya condong memilih monorel ketimbang tol tengah sebagai solusi mengurai keruwetan sistem transportasi kota berpenduduk 3 juta jiwa ini.

Wali kota Bambang Dwi Hartono mengatakan studi kelayakan tahun 1997 tentang sistem transportasi masa depan Surabaya merekomendasikan light rapid transport (LRT) atau angkutan massal cepat paling tepat untuk mengurai keruwetan itu. Menurut Bambang jalur monorel Surabaya-Sidoarjo paling tepat untuk mewujudkan angan-angan itu.

"Hasil studi itu saya sampaikan kepada investor, paling cocok untuk koridor utara-selatan, ya LRT bukan tol," ujar Bambang usai membuka raker kepala sekolah SMP, SMA, dan SMK di Hotel Satelit, Rabu (1/12).

Bambang juga mengatakan pemkot menindaklanjuti tawaran pembangunan jaringan monorel Sidoarjo-Surabaya dari PT Indonesia Transit Central (ITC) dengan konsorsium Omnica Singapore (OS) di kantor gubernur, Selasa (30/11).

"Jumat (3/12) besok sudah dibahas di pemkot, setelah itu kami koordinasikan dengan pemprov," tandas Bambang.

Ia menambahkan tawaran pembangunan monorel itu datang dari beberapa investor termasuk PT ITC dan OS. Namun hingga sekarang belum ada yang memberi kepastian. "Yang jelas investor yang serius harus melakukan studi kelayakan yang ekstra serius dan terintegrasi dengan Sidoarjo dan terutama Pemprov Jatim" tandas Bambang.

Sementara pakar transportasi dari ITS Surabaya Prof Ir Pinardi Koestalam MSc menjelaskan jaringan monorel yang akan dibangun di Surabaya harus bisa mendistribusikan penumpang ke semua titik kota. Untuk itu ia membagi Surabaya menjadi tiga wilayah besar yaitu Surabaya Barat (Lakarsantri-Benowo), Surabaya Selatan (Wonokromo ke selatan), dan Surabaya Timur (hingga ke Perak). Idealnya, kata Pinardi, ketiga wilayah besar itu harus dihubungkan dengan jalur monorel yang melingkar.

"Dalam angan-angan saya, monorel itu harus melingkari kota, sehingga setiap orang di dalam kota dapat mengakses semua wilayah kota dengan mudah," jelasnya, Rabu (1/12). Sejumlah selter yang dibangun sebagai kelengkapan monorel itu juga bisa diakses menggunakan angkutan kota dari wilayah yang tidak dilewati jalur monorel itu.

Untuk keperluan integrasi dengan Sidoarjo, jalur monorel di Surabaya selatan dipecah untuk menyediakan akses keluar masuk bagi warga Sidoarjo. "Lebih baik lagi kalau di antara Surabaya-Sidoarjo dipecah lagi dengan jalur menuju Bandara Juanda," ujar Pinardi yang pensiun belum lama ini.

Menurut Pinardi, pembangunan jaringan monorel ini paling kecil hambatannya dibanding dengan jalan tol tengah. Alasannya jalur monorel bisa dibangun di atas jalur hijau atau di atas jalan yang sudah ada. "Meski begitu secara teknis jalur monorel ini lebih sulit karena harus menggunakan balok khusus," tambahnya.

Yang penting menurut Pinardi, pemprov harus mempunyai piranti yang jelas dan layak untuk mengoperasikan sistem transportasi massal ini agar tidak mangkrak. "Selain itu sosialisasinya harus benar dan tuntas agar tidak ditentang warga. Serta tentu saja harga tiketnya harus terjangkau, nyaman, dan aman," tandas Pinardi. (nan/jho)

Dec 9, 2004

Monorel di Atas KA Reguler

Surabaya, Surya - Meski belum mencapai kesepakan, Pemkot Surabaya sudah merintis langkah pembangunan jaringan KA monorel untuk mengurai kemacetan Kota Surabaya. Di antaranya dengan merancang jaringan monorel di atas rel Sidoarjo-Surabaya-Gresik.

Strategi ini akan dicoba diterapkan karena tidak membutuhkan pembebasan lahan yang selama ini menjadi kendala pembangunan infrastruktur.

"Ada beberapa alternatif untuk jalur KA monorel, di antaranya dibangun di atas rel kereta reguler yang ada sekarang (fly over). Di situ nanti dibangun dua jalur sehingga bisa monorel bisa bersimpangan," kata Asiten Administrasi Pemkot Surabaya dr H Muklas Udin M Kes usai melepas Calon Jemaah Haji (CJH) Surabaya di Masjid Al Akbar Surabaya, Rabu (8/12).

Untuk jalur Sidoarjo-Surabaya, bila menggunakan fly over akan dilewatkan jalur di sisi timur Jl A Yani. Untuk Surabaya-Gresik menggunakan jalur utara. Selain itu juga akan ditambah satu jalur monorel ke Bandara Juanda. "Kebetulan saat ini sudah ada lahan yang dibebaskan, yakni yang akan dibangun jalan tol Juanda," kata Udin.

Pembangunan jalur monorel dengan strategi semacam ini diyakini Pemkot Surabaya tidak akan mengganggu jalur reguler yang ada di bawahnya.

Udin mengatakan di samping jalur utama Sidoarjo-Surabaya-Gresik itu akan dibangun pula jalur lain untuk menghubungkan jalur utama itu ke tempat-tempat strategis di tengah kota Surabaya. Alasannya KA monorel itu tidak akan laku kalau tidak bisa mengantarkan warga ke tempat tujuan di tengah kota seperti pusat perbelanjaan, pendidikan dan pemerintahan.

"Tanpa jalur sempalan itu, tidak akan laku. Kami minta ada yang ke Pasar Turi, gubernuran, pusat ekonomi, pusat pemerintahan, pusat pendidikan. Berarti kan juga itu harus ada lahannya, mungkin lewat pembebasan atau bagaimana," kata Udin.

Mengenai pembiayaan, Udin mengatakan hingga sekarang belum dibicarakan. "Nah itu yang belum. Kita minta dihitung secara teknis berapa biaya secara keseluruhan, kemudian model pembiayaannya seperti apa, BOT (build, operational and transfer), sharing atau bagaimana," ujar Udin.

Namun rencana tersebut masih menunggu pembicaraan lebih lanjut. Lantaran selama ini rencana penggunaan monorel masih dibahas di pemerintah provinsi (pemprov). Seperti diketahui, usulan pembangunan monorel ini disampaikan investor monorel, PT Indonesia Transit Central dengan Konsorsium Omnico Singapore di hadapan Gubernur Jatim Imam Utomo. (jho)

Yappofloyd
February 17th, 2005, 02:09 PM
Interesting to find out about Melb floods on a Jkt monorail forum.

Can anyone pls post some recent photos of the monorail construction, also to this site http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=178891 on another part of the forum.

Thanks.

sanhen
February 17th, 2005, 03:39 PM
Not surprising since ~30% of melb cbd population is Indonesian currently.

tata
February 19th, 2005, 11:25 AM
http://img220.exs.cx/img220/7513/jmon6ks.jpg
STALLED WORK: A worker uses a shovel to turn soil and gravel near a piling frame of the mass rapid transit project on Jl. Asia Afrika in Central Jakarta. The fate of the US$650 million project became unclear after the developer, PT Jakarta Monorail, asked the administration to help finance the project. JP/P.J. Leo



Investors ask city to finance monorail project
Damar Harsanto, The Jakarta Post/Jakarta

Financial questions surrounding the PT Jakarta Monorail consortium, which the city administration appointed to develop an ambitious monorail system, has left the fate of the project in doubt.

Governor Sutiyoso said on Friday foreign investors in the consortium had asked the city administration to finance at least 30 percent of the US$650 million project.

"They asked the administration and local partners to help finance 30 percent of the project, while they will cover the remaining 70 percent," Sutiyoso said at City Hall.

Sutiyoso said the city administration likely would agree to the request, pointing out that similar equity sharing schemes were used to finance monorail projects in Bangkok and Manila.

The governor previously said investors would wholly fund the monorail and the administration would only provide the necessary legal facilities.

The investors said in December several foreign financial institutions, including the Asian Development Bank, the Islamic Development Bank and the Japan Bank for International Cooperation, had asked the consortium to complete some legal documents required to process their loans.

The legal documents included a gubernatorial decree on the use of certain lots of land for the project. The city administration issued the required documents, but it is unclear whether the financial institutions have disbursed the loans.

The chairman of City Council's Commission D on development affairs, Sayogo Hendrosubroto, rejected the equity sharing scheme.

"My answer is no. We must not take part in any financial plans made by the consortium until we conduct an in-depth study of their plan," said Sayogo, adding that the councillors would have the final say on the matter, not the consortium.

"Since the very beginning I have been suspicious and doubtful about the consortium's ability to get the money for the project. It has always been reluctant to disclose the sources of its financing for us to verify," he added.

However, PT Jakarta Monorail president director Ruslan Diwirjo denied the consortium did not have the funds to complete the project.

"No, that is not the reason," Ruslan told the Post over the phone.

He said the reason for proposing the equity sharing scheme was to convince foreign investors that the administration was really serious about supporting to the project.

"Governor Sutiyoso has agreed to the proposal, but since it is impossible to materialize the scheme in this year's city budget, we plan to use next year's budget," he said.

The monorail project is expected to be completed toward the end of 2006.

Meanwhile, the State Secretariat, which controls the Bung Karno sports complex in Central Jakarta, has not given permission for the project to pass in front of the complex.

The consortium already has erected several pylons along Jl. Asia-Africa in front of the sports complex, disrupting traffic along the street.

JAG2
February 19th, 2005, 11:49 AM
it seems it s very difficult to get something done in Indonesia , does this mean that there might be a possibility that this Project Monorail will indefinetly be scrapped ?

Yappofloyd
February 20th, 2005, 04:26 PM
The city administration issued the required documents, but it is unclear whether the financial institutions have disbursed the loans. The chairman of City Council's Commission D on development affairs, Sayogo Hendrosubroto, rejected the equity sharing scheme. "My answer is no. We must not take part in any financial plans made by the consortium until we conduct an in-depth study of their plan," said Sayogo, adding that the councillors would have the final say on the matter, not the consortium.
"Since the very beginning I have been suspicious and doubtful about the consortium's ability to get the money for the project. It has always been reluctant to disclose the sources of its financing for us to verify," he added.
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Oh, no! Another important project delayed as the management/financial arrangements were not clarified!

Seems as though City Council is being their usual bureacratic selves or did someone not get their 'cut'. KKN?

sanhen
February 20th, 2005, 04:38 PM
Whatever the cause is... must be somebody getting greedy. Trying to get more profit.

tata
February 20th, 2005, 08:48 PM
if this project delayed or postponed again, it just proves that both government and ITC are NOT realiable, they kept saying next month will see massive constructions. Once before election last year and secondly last month when they said March will fast-track construct the 2 lines. My a*s!

tata
February 21st, 2005, 04:18 PM
SUARA PEMBARUAN DAILY
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DPRD Setuju Pemerintah Pusat Bantu Pembangunan Proyek Monorail
JAKARTA - DPRD DKI Jakarta menyetujui keterlibatan pemerintah pusat dalam pembangunan proyek monorail, seperti yang diharapkan oleh Gubernur DKI Jakarta, Sutiyoso.

"Memang proyek monorail itu sangat membutuhkan peran swasta, tapi tidak berarti pemerintah pusat harus lepas tangan. Untuk menunjukkan kelayakan proyek itu, memang perlu support dan harus datang dari pemerintah pusat," kata anggota Komisi D DPRD DKI Jakarta, Johny Wenas Polli kepada Pembaruan di Jakarta, Senin (21/2).

Pemerintah pusat katanya, bisa memberikan beberapa akses untuk menopang proyek monorail berjalan, yaitu dengan memberi fasilitas kepada pemprov untuk merealisasikan proyek atau menggelontorkan dana bantuan.

"Nanti kami akan kami bicarakan, seperti apa bentuk bantuan yang diminta," ujar politisi asal F-Partai Demokrat ini.

Johny mengatakan, sampai saat ini dana untuk proyek monorail belum dimasukkan dalam APBD 2005. Alasannya, DPRD belum mengetahui berapa besar dana yang dibutuhkan. "Supaya proyek cepat terealisasi, pemprov bisa saja menggunakan dana cadangan umum daerah yang Rp 800 miliar," katanya.

Perda 10/1999 katanya, mengatur mengenai dana cadangan umum daerah. Di sana diatur bahwa proyek-proyek yang memiliki skala strategis dan waktunya panjang bisa menggunakan dana ini, namun penggunaannya harus mendapat persetujuan DPRD.

Sebagian dana yang ada sekarang, sebesar Rp 250 miliar telah dialokasikan untuk percepatan pembangunan banjir kanal timur. "Kendati begitu, pemerintah pusat juga harus mau mengucurkan dana segar untuk proyek itu," ujar dia.

Sebelumnya, Gubernur Sutiyoso mengaku telah menyampaikan usulan bantuan pemerintah pusat dalam proyek monorail ketika bertemu dengan Presiden Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, Wakil Presiden Jusuf Kalla, serta Menteri Perhubungan Hatta Rajasa di Istana Wapres, Jumat (18/2) lalu.

Sutiyoso mengatakan, hingga saat ini belum ada lembaga keuangan, baik nasional maupun internasional, yang bersedia meminjamkan dana untuk pembangunan tersebut. Akibatnya, pembangunan monorail pun terhambat sehingga dikhawatirkan tidak bisa selesai tepat pada waktunya.

Sebelumnya, Direktur PT Jakarta Monorail, Sukmawaty Syukur telah berusaha meyakinkan Pemprov DKI bahwa pihaknya mampu menggaet investor dalam maupun luar negeri untuk menyelesaikan proyek itu. Termasuk di antaranya masalah pendanaan proyek yang menelan dana sekitar US$ 560 juta.

Sutiyoso menjelaskan, alasan Pemprov DKI meminta bantuan dana dari pemerintah pusat karena proyek transportasi ini tidak hanya akan dibutuhkan oleh masyarakat Jakarta. Tapi juga dibutuhkan masyarakat internasional yang berkunjung ke Jakarta atas keinginan pemerintah pusat.

Ia mengatakan, di sejumlah negara seperti Singapura dan Thailand pembangunan sarana angkutan modern ini tidak hanya menjadi tanggung jawab pemerintah daerah. Tapi pemerintah pusat juga ikut memberikan kontribusi secara kebijakan maupun pendanaan.

"Setelah saya pelajari, ternyata pemerintah di Bangkok (Thailand) dan Manila (Filipina) ikut sharing mengalokasikan anggaran untuk pembangunan monorail. Jadi tidak hanya swasta," ujarnya.

Lebih lanjut Ia mengatakan, hal itu dilakukan agar pihak investor bisa diyakinkan bahwa proyek yang digarap didukung pemerintah. Tapi Ia membantah kalau inisiatif permintaan bantuan dana sebesar 30 persen dari pemerintah pusat itu diakibatkan karena PT Jakarta Monorail belum juga mendapatkan kejelasan bantuan dana dari investor dalam dan luar negeri.

"Kita memperkirakan sharing pemerintah, baik pemprov maupun pemerintah pusat sekitar 30 persen" katanya. (Y-6)

JAG2
February 21st, 2005, 09:59 PM
What does the above article says ??? Sometimes I do have some difficulties reading Indonesian.

tata
February 22nd, 2005, 12:12 AM
Summary:
- No progess on construction (it's still in the air -- like one's fart, you can smell it but you cannot see it)
- PT Jakarta Monorail asked to be transparent on how to finance the project (in other word: if have no money, better forget making money from it)
- PT JM director insisted they have money (SHOW us the money man!)
- The parliament suggested the city to start eyeing other investor
- Governor Sutiyoso a week ago suggested the central government and city government should involve in financing this project (project or 'dagelan'?)


Pembangunan Monorel Macet, PT JM Diminta Transparan
Kompas Feb 22, 2005

Jakarta, Kompas - Di lapangan, pembangunan sarana untuk proyek kereta rel tunggal (monorel) terlihat macet. Wakil Gubernur DKI Jakarta Fauzi Bowo menilai, PT Jakarta Monorel sebagai konsorsium yang diserahi membangun monorel tidak transparan soal dana, tetapi PT JM membantahnya.

Fauzi Bowo yang ditemui di Balai Kota DKI, Senin (21/2), meminta PT JM bersikap transparan dalam hal manajemen, terutama menyangkut pendanaan monorel. Sebab, tanpa adanya keterbukaan itu Pemerintah Provinsi DKI Jakarta sulit membantu proyek senilai 600 juta dollar AS itu.

"Kalau dibilang si A, si B atau si C bersedia memberikan bantuan finansial, ya buat apa DKI ikut serta berinvestasi," kata nya. Ia juga menegaskan bahwa DKI tetap menginginkan proyek itu selesai sesuai jadwal.

Padahal, sejauh pengamatan Kompas beberapa pekan ini, pembangunan jalur monorel di Jalan Asia Afrika terlihat berhenti. Batu-batu besar hanya ditumpuk, sementara kelanjutan kegiatan pembangunan tidak terlihat sama sekali.

Menyikapi berbagai penilaian itu, PT JM dalam siaran persnya, menyebutkan, tanggal 10 Januari 2005 PT JM telah mengajukan usulan kepada Pemprov DKI supaya membantu proses percepatan financial closing. PT AAA Securities dan Banca Intesa (Hongkong) selaku penasihat PT JM menyarankan agar Pemprov DKI dilibatkan dalam kepemilikannya, sehingga posisi tawar untuk pengadaan soft loan (pinjaman lunak) proyek ini bisa dicapai.

"Pemprov DKI diharapkan bisa mendanai sebagian atau maksimal 30 persen dari modal. Sedangkan, konsorsium membiayai 70 persennya," kata Ruslan.

Menurut Presiden PT JM Ruslan Diwirjo, soft loan sangat diperlukan, karena tanpa bunga pinjaman yang rendah maka proyek ini kelak akan memerlukan subsidi tarif cukup besar pada awal operasionalnya.

Direktur PT JM Sukmawaty Syukur juga membantah tudingan bahwa JM tidak mempunyai dana.

Sepekan sebelumnya, Gubernur Sutiyoso mengusulkan agar Pemerintah Pusat dan Pemprov DKI membantu 30 persen untuk pembangunan monorel. Di sejumlah negara, katanya, pembangunan monorel selalu melibatkan pemerintah daerah dan pemerintah pusat.

Belum dipastikan

Berkait dengan usulan PT JM agar DKI ikut membiayai proyek monorel, Fauzi mengatakan, sejauh PT JM mau terbuka, pihaknya akan berusaha membantu. Akan tetapi, pembiayaan lewat Anggaran Pendapatan dan Belanja Daerah (APBD), katanya, belum bisa dipastikan.

Sementara itu, Ketua Komisi D DPRD DKI Sayogo Hendrosubroto mengatakan, Pemprov DKI harus membuka kemungkinan mengajak ivestor lain bila PT JM tidak mampu menyelesaikan proyek itu.

Di Kantor Kepresidenan, Gubernur Sutiyoso kemarin juga berbicara soal pembangunan monorel. Ia menilai, pemilik lahan atau gedung yang menolak dilintasi monorel akan rugi. Sebab, dengan dilintasi proyek monorel, lokasi atau wilayahnya itu akan diuntungkan.

"Penduduk di lokasi atau wilayah tersebut, akan mudah menggunakan sarana monorel," kata Sutiyoso seusai menemani mantan Gubernur DKI Ali Sadikin bertemu Presiden Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono.

Sekarang, kata Sutiyoso, justru banyak bangunan-bangunan yang ingin dilintasi oleh monorel. "Pertokoan Tanah Abang, misalnya, akan lintasi dengan 'menusuk' kawasan pertokoan itu persis di tengah-tengahnya," katanya.

Menunggu izin KONI

Berkait dengan izin lintasan monorel di sekitar lapangan Softball kawasan Gelora Bung Karno Senayan, Sutijoso mengakui hingga kini belum ada izin.

Namun, Menteri Sekretaris Negara Yusril Ihza Mahendra menyatakan bahwa waktu segera masalah itu selesai. "Izin dari KONI segera keluar. Setneg akan mengizinkan, tetapi masih menunggu surat persetujuan tertulis dari KONI dan asosiasi olahraga softball," katanya. (PIN/OSA/har/inu)

tata
February 22nd, 2005, 12:21 AM
What does the above article says ??? Sometimes I do have some difficulties reading Indonesian.

well in general it's almost the same with the news from kompas (i made a summary in english for this one). Plus, parliament, said, agreed if the city involve in its financing.
Aparently, governor Sutiyoso seems to agree as well arguing that in the end it is not only Jakarta city benefits from monorail but also the central government. He compared with similar project in Thailand and in the Philipines where local government shared the cost. For this he already met President, vice president and ministry of transportation.
PT JM insisted that they are capable in collecting funds from international investors and suggested that involvement from government will show our seriousness in making this project possible.

Alvin
February 22nd, 2005, 05:32 AM
yeah, I hate seeing what's happening with the monorail project, the indonesian (particularly Jakarta municipal) authorities should be ashamed of their inability to manage and execute projects like this, crucial as a model for any future investment in transportation/infrastructure.

Anyway, there's a development int he Subway project...according to Bisnis Indonesia today, the governemnt has decided that no private investors will be involved and that the burden of the $770 million project will be shared between the Jakarta and the central government.

tata
February 22nd, 2005, 10:47 AM
UPDATE: news from Kompas Feb 22, 2005
Governor Sutiyoso is inviting local investors to be involved in the project. While none confirms, Bank Lippo is showing its strong interest to join in. City government will also share the financing through PT Jakarta Propertindo.
Meanwhile, a member of parliament, suggested the city to start looking for new investors, PT Jakarta Monorail suspected not having enough funds.

JAG2
February 22nd, 2005, 03:58 PM
well in general it's almost the same with the news from kompas (i made a summary in english for this one). Plus, parliament, said, agreed if the city involve in its financing.
Aparently, governor Sutiyoso seems to agree as well arguing that in the end it is not only Jakarta city benefits from monorail but also the central government. He compared with similar project in Thailand and in the Philipines where local government shared the cost. For this he already met President, vice president and ministry of transportation.
PT JM insisted that they are capable in collecting funds from international investors and suggested that involvement from government will show our seriousness in making this project possible.
Merci beaucoup tata for this short translation , but will this project goes as schedule meaning no more delays or abortion ??

Alvin
February 23rd, 2005, 06:39 AM
http://img221.exs.cx/img221/471/dsc009915uq.th.jpg (http://img221.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img221&image=dsc009915uq.jpg)

Alvin
February 23rd, 2005, 06:40 AM
http://img221.exs.cx/img221/4937/dsc009886go.th.jpg (http://img221.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img221&image=dsc009886go.jpg)

Yappofloyd
February 23rd, 2005, 11:20 AM
Anyway, there's a development int he Subway project...according to Bisnis Indonesia today, the governemnt has decided that no private investors will be involved and that the burden of the $770 million project will be shared between the Jakarta and the central government.

Alvin, thanks for the pics (which I assume you took whilst driving past).

Good to hear that the subway is moving ahead although I am surprised that the govt. is willing to take the responsibility.

Tata, terima kasih banyak for the updates/translations. Hopefully, within the next month some investors will be found.

lullu
February 23rd, 2005, 11:25 AM
Monorail project going off track as city, company sling the mud
Bambang Nurbianto and Damar Harsanto, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

At least two transportation observers are calling for the termination of a contract between the Jakarta administration and a consortium of investors grouped under the company PT Jakarta Monorail.

They claim that the private company is not financially credible nor able to carry out the ambitious monorail project valued at US$650 million.

The consortium has requested that the administration provide $60 million, or 30 percent of the initial capital outlay of about $200 million.

In the original agreement, the consortium said it could wholly fund the monorail project and the administration would only have to provide the necessary legal permits.

The City Transportation Council (DTK) chairman Sutanto said that the administration had the right to terminate the agreement because the project had been stalled since a groundbreaking ceremony nearly a year ago by then president Megawati Soekarnoputri.

Darmaningtyas of the Institute Transportation and Development Policy (ITDP) concurred with Soetanto.

"They should not continue the project since it would only put another burden on Jakarta taxpayers. It'd be better if the administration terminated the cooperation."

If the administration decides to terminate the agreement, it will be the second such failure in the last 13 months. Early last year, it scrapped an agreement with Malaysian firm MTrans Holding.

Meanwhile, Deputy Governor Fauzi Bowo lamented the lack of transparency by the consortium in its financial reports to the administration.

PT Jakarta Monorail president director Ruslan Diwirjo responded by explaining that the company had been putting money into the project for nearly four years, but the city still needed to show "goodwill" in order for other investors to come through on earlier pledges.

"We have been financing the project since 2001. Our commitment has also been proven by our goodwill by starting some of the construction before there was any financing arranged," Ruslan clarified in a statement.

Ruslan admitted that they were having difficulties in securing soft loans from foreign investors (Hitachi and the Japan Bank for International Cooperation) but said it was because the Indonesian government could not act as guarantor for private company projects, but should instead show goodwill in cooperating on the project.

Governor Sutiyoso emphasized that government participation or an equity-sharing scheme was commonplace in similar monorail projects in other cities, such as Manila or Bangkok.

"I have been trying to raise money from local investors, but so far we have yet to find any who are seriously willing to invest in us," he clarified.

The monorail project had been slated to open in 2006 under a 30-year build-operate-transfer scheme

tata
February 23rd, 2005, 11:55 AM
@jag: pas de quoi ;)

@Yappofloyd: sama2

@Lullu: WELCOME to Indonesia sub forum! (should I call you man! or girl!)

Guys, my feeling says, the city would better find new investor. A reliable one.

Alvin
February 23rd, 2005, 11:57 AM
http://img136.exs.cx/img136/5298/dsc014785rk.jpg

Alvin
February 23rd, 2005, 12:00 PM
Alvin, thanks for the pics (which I assume you took whilst driving past).

Good to hear that the subway is moving ahead although I am surprised that the govt. is willing to take the responsibility.

Tata, terima kasih banyak for the updates/translations. Hopefully, within the next month some investors will be found.

no problem, Yappofloyd. though I must say , there is nothing much to see at this stage ...

tata
February 23rd, 2005, 12:03 PM
no problem, Yappofloyd. though I must say , there is nothing much to see at this stage ...

Alvin, excellent man! We should not only enjoy the result but also every drop of joy from the process ;) One day when this monorail up and running, we'd say .... hei I know this baby very well ;)

tata

Alvin
February 23rd, 2005, 12:23 PM
tata, what you say make sense =)
Still, I'm very annoyed at the Jakarta administration

Alvin
February 23rd, 2005, 01:23 PM
Financing scheme for mass rapid transport to be reviewed: Jakarta governor

JAKARTA (Antara): The Jakarta administration will review its financing scheme for the construction of the mass rapid transport project in the capital, Governor Sutiyoso said on Wednesday.

Sutiyoso made the remark after a meeting with Vice President Jusuf Kalla to discuss ways to improve the financing plan for the construction of infrastructure in the capital, particularly the transportation system and new ports.

The meeting was also attended by Minister ofTransportation Hatta Rajasa and State Minister for State Enterprises Sugiharto.

The city administration has been under pressure to terminate its contract with a consortium of investors grouped under the company PT Jakarta Monorail as the private company was claimed to be not financially credible nor able to carry out the ambitious project valued at US$650 million.

The consortium has requested that the administration provide $60 million, or 30 percent of the initial capital outlay of about $200 million, even though, in the original agreement, the administration would only have to provide the necessary legal permits.

"We aren't sure yet, but the new scheme should be much cheaper," Sutiyoso said.

Launched nearly a year ago by then president Megawati Soekarnoputri, the project, which was expected to be completed in 2006, has been stalled due to financing difficulties.

Commenting on the underground sections of the transportation system, Sutiyoso said that construction was scheduled to start in 2006.

The Japanese government has offered a soft loan for the section between Lebak Bulus in South Jakarta and Dukuh Atas in Central Jakarta, he said. (**)

tata
February 23rd, 2005, 10:55 PM
The story of Jakarta Monorail is far from finished, Governor Sutiyoso once again shows his seriousness in the project. His vision is to bring a wold-class public transportation to our beloved city, Jakarta. One day he will be remembered as 'The Father of Jakarta Transportation '

Below is summary in English from news in tempo.com:
- One day after being considered as serious investor, Bank Lippo denied news that said they're interested in Monorail project
- Sutiyoso confirmed central government involvement in financing the project after meeting with VP Jusuf Kalla
- Financing scheme will be reviewed, 30% will come from local investors, city and central government. 70% from foreign investors
- Sutiyoso will hold 2nd meeting to gather funds from local investors

Well guys, I think, PT JM is history now.... time will come when the contract between DKI Jakarta and PT Jakarta Monorail will be terminated

Here's the complete news... in bhs indonesia:

Gubernur DKI Belum Bisa Pastian Investor Monorel
Rabu, 23 Pebruari 2005 | 21:25 WIB

TEMPO Interaktif, Jakarta: Gubernur DKI Jakarta Sutiyoso mengatakan, pemerintahannya akan mencari investor lain menyusul bantahan Bank Lippo untuk ambil bagian dalam investasi proyek monorel. “Lippo nggak mau tidak apa-apa. Masih ada BNI dan bank lainnya, “ kata Sutiyoso di Balai Kota, Rabu (23/2).

Dia menambahkan, dalam pertemuan dengan Wakil Presiden Jusuf Kalla diperoleh kepastian tentang keikutsertaan pemerintah pusat dalam investasi. Selain itu, "Akan ada peninjauan kembali dana”. Selama ini, kata dia, total dana yang dibutuhkan sebesar US$ 650 juta.

Keterlibatan pemerintah pusat, daerah, dan investor sawsta lokal, menurut dia untuk mencapai kuota 30 persen dari total dana. Sementara itu, sekitar 70 persen lainnya berasal dari investor asing.

Untuk menggaet para investor lokal, Gubernur DKI akan melakukan pembicaraan lanjutan. “Kami akan undang untuk pembicaraan berikutnya,“ kata dia.

Sehari sebelumnya, Sutiyoso mengatakan bahwa hingga saat ini belum ada investor swasta lokal yang memberikan kepastian berinvestasi. Gubernur sempat menyebut Bank Lippo sebagai salah satu investor yang serius.

Alvin
February 24th, 2005, 08:29 AM
Monorail with Chinese technology? I'm not convinced... :sleepy:

Sutiyoso wants in cheap for big transportation projects
The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

Amid pressure for better transportation and infrastructure in the capital, Governor Sutiyoso suggested on Wednesday that the estimated expense of the ongoing monorail project and the planned mass rapid transit project were too high.

He said it was necessary to reduce the cost of both projects.

"I'm not sure about the estimated total cost ... but the cost should be lower, there is no floor price to it," he said after meeting with Vice President Jusuf Kalla, Minister of Transportation Hatta Radjasa and State Minister of State Enterprises Sugiharto.

The meeting was held to discuss Jakarta's infrastructure budget, including funds for the monorail, the mass rapid transit (MRT) and the Jakarta New Port projects.

The monorail, construction of which began last year and is expected to be completed in 2007, is valued at US$650 million.

It is being built by a consortium of investors grouped in PT Jakarta Monorail.

Sutiyoso argued that the Japanese technology used in the construction had inflated the cost.

"We'll review whether we can apply Chinese technology ... cheaper is better so we can resume construction."

If the administration decides to terminate the agreement, it will be the second such failure in the last 13 months. Early last year, it scrapped an agreement with Malaysian firm MTrans Holding.

The project has been stalled since a groundbreaking ceremony last year that was officiated by then president Megawati Soekarnoputri.

The city administration failed to the acquire land in the initial planned path of the project, causing the developer to change the blueprint a number of times.

When the Sutiyoso administration decided to expedite the deadline to 2006, the consortium had difficulty in securing soft loans from foreign investors Hitachi and the Japan Bank for International Cooperation.

Instead the developer offered the government an equity sharing scheme, which required the latter to provide $60 million, or 30 percent of the initial capital outlay.

"The central government, the Jakarta administration, state enterprises and private investors will be invited to participate in the scheme," Sutiyoso remarked, expressing hope that the financial matter could be settled this year.

He also revealed that the central government would soon complete all paperwork on the MRT, the construction of which is expected to start early next year.

Sutiyoso said that the government had offered soft loans from Japan with an interest of 1 percent per year.

"Still, the value of the project is considered high at Rp 500 billion for each kilometer of MRT track," he complained.

The MRT will stretch from Lebak Bulus in South Jakarta to Dukuh Atas in Central Jakarta, with underground stations at Ratu Plaza in Senayan and Dukuh Atas, a distance of approximately 3.5 kilometers.

sanhen
February 24th, 2005, 10:34 AM
Good move sutiyoso!
Put some pressure!

Medan01
February 24th, 2005, 04:08 PM
But, Chinese Technology in Monorail?.........

Maybe we should look at Malaysian technology instead. Hitachi technology is the best in Monorail. At least in Malaysia, they have the technology that works already for the KL monorail. But China? I know they have a few but there are mostly Japanese and German technology. And no, we can't afford the Maglev. Even, the Chinese government shelved that project after just the 31 km stretch from Pudong to PVG airport in Shanghai.

All these efforts to shift more responsibilities to the municipal government instead of giving it to private investors are worrying me. It has corruption written all over again.
:bash:

Alvin
February 24th, 2005, 04:32 PM
why why why aren't foreign investors interested in taking part in a mass rapid transportation project in the capital of the world's 4th most populous country with tremendous growth potential? I don't understand..

Alvin
February 24th, 2005, 04:33 PM
The ideal situation would be if Monorail goes ahead with Hitachi and 100% funded by foreign investors, same goes for the MRT project. I'm not a bit fan of government running projects like this...corruption lurks.

Medan01
February 24th, 2005, 04:36 PM
why why why aren't foreign investors interested in taking part in a mass rapid transportation project in the capital of the world's 4th most populous country with tremendous growth potential? I don't understand..

Maybe it has something to do with our government making it hard for them...... I won't be surprised.

tata
February 24th, 2005, 04:54 PM
why why why aren't foreign investors interested in taking part in a mass rapid transportation project in the capital of the world's 4th most populous country with tremendous growth potential? I don't understand..

what I can recall is the investors, local or foreign ones, want to have freedom to set the price of ticket by themselves but the government wants to control it. It understands that if the price is left to them they will put a price relatively too expensive for ordinary Indonesian. Sutiyoso wants it not more than Rp. 6000 and this is considered low by investor. Subway ticket in Paris is around 1,2 Euro. And the investor want around the same price.

To have a win-win solution, the government would either subsidize the ticket or/and give them a right to operate in 40 years (if I'm not mistaken) under BOT scheme.

It was then surprising when PT Jakarta Monorail said it'll be 100% pure investment without participation from the government.

Alvin
February 25th, 2005, 03:50 PM
Jakarta's monorail is left up in the air :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
By Matthew Moore, Herald Correspondent in Jakarta
February 26, 2005

For seven months Jakarta's motorists have waited patiently in traffic even heavier than normal as they watched the latest public transport dream take shape in Asia's most congested city.

Drilling rigs set up on the busiest roads and sank shafts into rich topsoil that soon sprouted steel and concrete shoots to one day support a 14.8 kilometre monorail with 17 stations.

Now, suddenly, the rigs and the workers have gone and the media have reported that work has stopped. The company building the thing, PT Jakarta Monorail, insists work is still under way and points to a pile of stone blocks stacked 20 metres into the air, which, it says, are part of a continuing "loading test".

What a director of Jakarta Monorail, Sukmawati Syukur, does admit is that the project is in financial trouble and that the completion date is now in doubt.

The original plan was for the private investors to raise $US650 million ($825 million) to build the project, which they would own and operate for 30 years before handing it over to the Jakarta Government.

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AdvertisementNow Ms Syukur says her company needs the government to buy 30 per cent of the project to make it financially sustainable. She is unsure what will happen if it refuses.

"For instance, we can delay the time frame until after 2007," she said, although she declined to say how long that might be. However, she insisted she expected the difficulties would be sorted out.

The idea of a monorail floating above Jakarta's choked streets has been around for years, and has grown more attractive as the traffic has grown heavier.

Heru Sutomo, the chairman of the board of researchers at Gadjah Mada University's Centre for Transportation and Logistics, is depressed about the deteriorating state of public transport in Indonesia.

Even if the monorail is built it will not do much and will carry just half the numbers of Bangkok's light rail.

Jakarta opened a dedicated bus lane on one of its busiest streets about a year ago and has plans for a dozen more.

Although the busway was working, Mr Sutomo said, it was so tiny it made virtually no difference, while a strengthening economy had resulted in an increasing trend towards motor vehicles. "Last year we broke two records in Indonesia, a record for motorbike sales and a record for car sales," he said.

Mr Sutomo is unsure what has caused the current impasse with the monorail, but he suspects that, with so much money involved, some government departments may be delaying the project so they can mark up construction costs and take a cut.

"From my experience with the development of the busway, which was much smaller in financial scale, they had these practices of marking up the costs ... why would they not do it with this larger, more attractive project?"

Ms Syukur said corruption had not been a problem and that British auditors had been through the accounts.

"Everybody can check the price of the monorail. Of course it's expensive because we are using ... the best technology." Many Jakarta residents are wondering now if they will ever get to test it.

Yappofloyd
March 1st, 2005, 05:03 PM
No news on a new funding arrangement?

Why doesn't SBY use some of the fuel subsidy money that has just been reduced.....good way to sell the price rises to some of the public.

Or we could have a whip around fundraising from some of the the old TNI Generals....

Alvin
March 2nd, 2005, 06:40 AM
I guess the central government has many other issues to deal with that are more urgent than Jakarta's monorail funding schemes...hahaha

tata
March 2nd, 2005, 02:36 PM
geeee, don't tell me they're ignoring this project. I wanna see jakarta start having reliable and good public transportation, MRT in particular.

Alvin
March 2nd, 2005, 02:49 PM
these projects WILL go ahead...Jakarta can't afford NOT to build public transport system that's up to regional standards - Bangkok, KL, Singapore. Its only the question of WHEN . 2 years? 5 years? 10 years? :bash: :bash:

Alvin
March 3rd, 2005, 04:28 AM
Monorail firm demands city secure loans
The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

While insisting that it faces no financial difficulties in pursuing the ambitious monorail project, PT Jakarta Monorail is urging the city administration to issue a guarantee it needs to secure bank loans for the undertaking.

PT Jakarta Monorail (JM) director Sukmawaty Syukur demanded The Jakarta Post on Tuesday the city administration honor its obligations stated in a contract signed last year, including a guarantee to cover any financial shortfalls and repay the company's debts to banks.

Sukmawaty said the city had yet to meet its obligations stipulated in the contract, but refused to reveal the full content of the agreement.

It is understood JM has also asked the administration to provide it with an annual subsidy worth US$20 million (Rp 185 billion) for a period of up to eight years.

A source familiar with the project said that JM had also asked to be permitted to implement the Electronic Road Pricing (ERP) system, which would charge cars passing along the monorail's routes.

"We are still negotiating with the administration about several items in the agreement," Sukmawaty said.

The guarantee, subsidy and ERP, according to Sukmawaty, were just some of requirements needed to secure bank loans to finance the $650 million project.

Earlier, the company urged the city administration to provide at least $60 million for the project to convince banks that it was serious about the endeavor.

"So, it is not true that our demand for share equity is due to our financial difficulties. We only want a strong commitment from the administration to the project," she said.

JM, owned by PT Indonesia Transit Central (ITC) and Omnico Singapore, Pte. Ltd, has been appointed to build two monorail lines totaling 27.8 kilometers in the capital.

The first, 14.3-kilometer green monorail line is designed to pass along Taman Rasuna, Gatot Subroto, Satria Mandala, the city police headquarters, Sudirman Central Business District, Bung Karno sport complex, Pal Merah, Pejompongan, Dukuh Atas railway station, Setia Budi Utara, and central Kuningan.

The second, 13.5-kilometer blue line runs from Kampung Melayu bus station in East Jakarta to Taman Anggrek.

However, the project has made little progress since the initial groundbreaking ceremony on Jl. Asia-Africa, Central Jakarta, witnessed by then president Megawati Soekarnoputri.

tata
March 3rd, 2005, 01:39 PM
I think Sutiyoso will kick out JM

lullu
March 4th, 2005, 06:48 AM
City Council stalling monorail over money
The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

City councillors rejected on Thursday the financing requirements demanded by monorail builder PT Jakarta Monorail, saying they would only burden the people.

The city administration has appointed PT Jakarta Monorail (JM) to build two monorail lines worth US$650 million.

The first, 14.3-kilometer green monorail line would pass along Jl. Taman Rasuna in South Jakarta, Jl. Gatot Subroto, Satria Mandala Museum, the city police headquarters, Sudirman Central Business District, Bung Karno sports complex, Palmerah, Pejompongan, Duku Atas railway station, Setia Budi Utara and central Kuningan.

The second, blue monorail line would link Taman Anggrek Mall in West Jakarta with Kampung Melayu bus station in East Jakarta.

The two lines are expected to begin operations in 2007.

JM, owned by PT Indonesia Central Transit (ITC) and Omnico Singapore, Pte. Ltd, had asked the city to guarantee its loan repayments, to give it an annual subsidy worth $20 million for seven to eight years, and to charge vehicles passing along the monorail corridors in an electronic road pricing (ERP) scheme.

JM also asked the city to pay $60 million into the project as equity sharing.

The new demands would allow JM to secure bank loans badly needed for the project.

ITC has invested $40 million into the project so far, while Omnico Singapore has paid in $100 million.

Chairman of the City Council's Commission D for development affairs Sayogo Hendrosubroto said the existing cooperation agreement should be revised if JM demanded additional requirements for the project.

"Under the current agreement, the monorail project is purely private investment. The city administration's involvement in the project would change the status of the endeavor," he told The Jakarta Post on Thursday.

Fellow Commission D member Arkeno said he could only agree to JM's proposal for the administration to have shares in the project, but not any subsidy or ERP.

"Any involvement of the city administration shows the city's commitment to the project," said Arkeno, a councillor of the Prosperous Justice Party (PKS) faction.

He said that it would not be fair if Jakartans shouldered the operational costs of the planned monorail.

"We should be spending such amounts of money on other urgent programs like poverty eradication," he told the Post on Thursday.

JM President Director Ruslan Diwirjo said on Thursday the additional requirements were needed to convince potential investors that the project received full support from the administration.

According to Ruslan, an ERP enforced along monorail corridors would ensure passengers used the service.

Deputy Governor Fauzi Bowo said the administration had not agreed to the new demands and further discussion was needed.

tata
March 14th, 2005, 12:33 AM
OK guys, time for monorail again now.
Summary:
- After negotiation, Finally it's decided that Monorail will pass through Olympics complex Senayan
- Projected to be in operation mid 2007 (gosh, it's now already March 2005 and we don't see any thing)
- Jakarta administration considers to subsidize the project to help reduce the ticket price from around Rp12000 to 3500 until 7500
- Darmaningtyas, Director of Institute for Transportation Development and Policy (ITDP) Indonesia believes this is just a trick from PT JM to secure profit as the investor may know since the beginning that this project is not going to make any money....

Monorel Tetap Melintas di Gelora Bung Karno

14 Maret 2005

Jakarta, Kompas - Setelah melalui perundingan, pembangunan jalur kereta rel tunggal (monorel) akhirnya tetap akan melintas di Gelanggang Olahraga Bung Karno. PT Jakarta Monorel menjamin jalur monorel itu tidak akan mengganggu keberadaan lapangan bisbol/sofbol yang selama ini menjadi polemik.

Asisten Pembangunan Provinsi DKI Jakarta Hari Sandjojo menjelaskan hasil keputusan itu kepada Kompas di Jakarta, Sabtu (12/3). Ia dimintai penjelasannya atas perkembangan pembangunan jalur monorel yang tampaknya tersendat.

Padahal, Gubernur DKI Sutiyoso tetap memiliki komitmen untuk merealisasikan sistem transportasi makro di Jakarta. Selain busway, monorel sebagai alat transportasi cepat dan ringan itu juga merupakan alat transportasi yang ditargetkan selesai pada pertengahan tahun 2007.

Hari mengatakan, pembicaraan yang menyangkut diizinkan atau tidaknya monorel melintas di pinggir lapangan bisbol/sofbol, tepatnya di Jalan Pintu Satu Senayan, itu dilakukan pada hari Kamis, 10 Maret, lalu. Sejumlah penanggung jawab dan pengelola Gelora Bung Karno yang hadir dalam pembicaraan itu antara lain Menteri Sekretaris Negara Yusril Ihza Mahendra, Ketua Komite Olahraga Nasional Indonesia (KONI) Pusat Agum Gumelar, dan pengurus Perserikatan Bisbol dan Sofbol Amatir Seluruh Indonesia (Perbasasi).

"Sampai sejauh ini, Gubernur Sutiyoso masih tetap memegang komitmen untuk membangun monorel di Jakarta. Segala kendala sedang diupayakan untuk dicarikan solusinya," ungkap Hari.

Soal subsidi

Ditanya soal subsidi operasional yang harus diberikan Pemerintah Provinsi (Pemprov) DKI Jakarta, Hari mengatakan, subsidi memang harus diberikan untuk menekan tarif operasional. Besar atau kecilnya subsidi itu sedang diperhitungkan.

"Subsidi itu merupakan bentuk jaminan terselenggaranya pelayanan publik. Jadi, perhitungannya haruslah tepat. Apalagi, subsidi itu harus sesuai prosedurnya," kata Hari.

Dalam perhitungan konsorsium PT Jakarta Monorel, Pemprov DKI diminta membuat semacam surat jaminan untuk komitmen memberikan subsidi selama tujuh tahun. Subsidi itu diharapkan mencapai rata-rata sebesar 20 juta dollar AS (sekitar Rp 188 miliar) per tahun.

Jika subsidi itu bisa diberikan, tarif perjalanan yang diperkirakan mencapai Rp 12.500 bisa ditekan mencapai Rp 3.500-Rp 7.500 per penumpang. Subsidi semacam ini kerap dilakukan di sejumlah negara agar alat transportasi itu sungguh dapat dinikmati masyarakat.

Direktur Institute for Transportation Development and Policy (ITDP) Indonesia Darmaningtyas menilai permintaan subsidi itu cuma akal-akalan PT Jakarta Monorel. Pihak swasta itu sudah memprediksi kerugian yang akan terjadi dengan mengoperasikan monorel.

"Saat ini Pemprov DKI mengalami dilematis. Gubernur Sutiyoso sudah telanjur mengekspos pembangunan monorel. Ternyata, dalam perjalanan waktu, pembangunan monorel mengalami hambatan pembiayaan yang begitu besar," kata Darmaningtyas.

Soal subsidi, Darmaningtyas meminta Pemprov DKI menyikapi secara kritis. Artinya, setelah beroperasi pada tahun kedelapan, apakah pihak swasta itu betul-betul bisa beroperasi. Jangan-jangan, demi mencari keuntungan, pihak swasta meminta subsidi lagi.

"Jika terjadi demikian, jelas sekali subsidi hanya akan membebani masyarakat. Jadi, lebih baik pembangunan monorel dibatalkan saja," kata Darmaningtyas.

Dia menilai perkiraan tarif sebesar Rp 5.000 per penumpang saja sangat sulit diminati. Apalagi, sarana transportasi monorel itu cuma melayani penumpang di dalam kota. Alat transportasi modern ini tidak akan efektif. (OSA)

tata
March 18th, 2005, 01:28 PM
From Suarapembaruan
March 17, 2005

Summary:
- City admin to review proposal from Hitachi. Despite its hightech it is considered too costly. In case Hitachi doesn't reduce the price he may consider for alternative.

- Governor received invitation from Major of Seoul and Beijing to visit their monorail system.

- Decision taken after visit to these 2 cities

- PT JM still pointed to build the system regardless the vendor selected.



Teknologi Monorail Akan Dikaji Ulang
JAKARTA - Pemerintah Provinsi (Pemprov) DKI Jakarta akan meninjau ulang (review) teknologi monorail yang ditawarkan Hitachi. Pasalnya, teknologi dari Hitachi dinilai terlalu mahal.

"Kami akui teknologi Hitachi memang canggih tapi jatuhnya mahal. Makanya kami akan review. Kalau Hitachi tidak mau turunkan harga, kita akan ambil teknologi lain," kata Gubernur DKI Jakarta Sutiyoso, di Balai Kota, Kamis (17/3).

Menurut dia, untuk mempertimbangkan kemungkinan menggunakan teknologi lain, pihaknya telah mendapat tawaran dari Wali Kota Seoul dan Wali Kota Beijing untuk melihat secara langsung teknologi monorail di dua kota tersebut.

"Makanya dalam waktu dekat saya akan mengunjungi Seoul dan Beijing untuk melihat teknologi mereka. Sepulang dari sana baru saya putuskan teknologi apa yang akan kita pakai," ujar Sutiyoso.

Meski akan meninjau ulang teknologi Hitachi yang bekerjasama dengan PT Jakarta Monorail (JM), namun Sutiyoso menegaskan, proses pelaksanaan proyek tersebut tetap dijalankan oleh investor swasta itu.

Proses yang tetap dilakukan JM, antara lain persiapan perencanaan, software (perangkat lunak), dan keuangan khususnya mengenai komitmen dengan penyandang dana dari luar negeri. "Jadi proyek monorail terus berlanjut. Hanya kita akan me-review teknologinya. Kalau harga yang ditetapkan Hitachi tidak diturunkan, kita akan ambil teknologi lain," kata Sutiyoso.

Sutiyoso mengatakan, banyak investor yang sudah menawarkan diri, baik dari lokal maupun luar negeri. "Salah satunya dari Cina. Tapi proyek ini kan sudah jalan dan sudah ada yang ditunjuk," ujanya.

Dia menambahkan, beberapa investor lokal juga telah melakukan pendekatan, namun dengan PT JM, bukan dengan Pemprov DKI. (J-9)

tata
March 19th, 2005, 06:18 PM
City may subsidize monorail fares
Damar Harsanto, The Jakarta Post/Jakarta
March 19, 2005

The Jakarta administration said on Friday that it would in all likelihood provide fare subsidies for the monorail to keep prices at affordable levels, but it would not participate as an equity partner, as requested by PT Jakarta Monorail.

"We will probably agree to provide subsidies to keep fares affordable for Jakarta residents. But, we don't want to take part directly in the project financing," assistant to the city secretary for development affairs Hari Sandjojo said at City Hall.

PT Jakarta Monorail, which is owned by PT Indonesia Transit Center (55 percent) and Omnico Singapore Pte. Ltd., has been appointed to build and operate two monorail lines that are expected to be operational by the end of 2007.

The project consortium had asked the city administration for an equity injection of US$60 million, and for an annual subsidy of $20 million for a period of eight years.

Hari said the administration found it too burdensome to completely fulfill the two requests.

He acknowledged that a clause in the construction contract stipulates that the administration has to do everything in its power to facilitate the company obtaining loans from banks.

"But, it doesn't mean that we have to be directly involved in the project's financing," he said.

He said that the subsidies provided by the administration would be significantly lower because of the switch from using the costly Hitachi monorail technology to cheaper technology from South Korea and China.

International auditor Franklin and Andrew, he said, was reassessing how much the alteration in the technology used would reduce the project's total cost.

Jakarta Governor Sutiyoso acknowledged that the administration could not afford the Hitachi technology, costing $650 million.

"It's too expensive for us. It would be better for us to look for other technologies that are cheaper," Sutiyoso said.

He admitted that the administration was still in the dark about how much cheaper the South Korean and Chinese monorail technologies would be, compared to the Japanese technology.

He said that early in April he would dispatch a team to South Korea and China to study the technologies.

The alteration in technology was the second time this had occurred, with the administration last year terminating cooperation with Malaysian MTrans Holding over the same monorail project, which was costed at $540 million.

The Malaysian firm refused to build two monorail lines simultaneously as required by the administration, due to financial constraints. The administration then turned to Hitachi, which though $110 million more expensive, was claimed to be more reliable.

PT Jakarta Monorail said earlier that it would speed up construction of the monorail this month.

Unfortunately, the project has made little progress since the initial groundbreaking ceremony witnessed by then president Megawati Soekarnoputri, because of significant financial difficulties.

Despite the obstacles, both the company and administration claim that the project will stay on schedule.

The monorail project is slated to become operational in 2006, under a 30-year build-operate-transfer scheme

peseg5
March 21st, 2005, 05:50 AM
Source: www.republika.co.id

Jalur Monorel Cassablanca-Karet Mulai Dibangun


JAKARTA-- PT Jakarta Monorail (JM) memastikan pembangunan monorel jalur Cassablanca-Karet, Jakarta Selaan, sepanjang 5 km tuntas selama 73 hari. Pelaksanaan pembagunan pondasi di jalur itu mulai dilakukan, Ahad (20/3).

Menurut Direktur Operasional PT JM, Sukmawati Syukur, pengerjaan jalur tersebut menggunakan alat geo penetrating radar (GPR) sebanyak 14 titik. Tujuannya agar mampu mendeteksi ada tidaknya pipa atau jaringan utilitas semisal PAM, Telkom dan sebagainya di jalur tersebut selama pembangunan pondasi berjalan. Pengerjaan pembangunan jalur monorel tersebut meliputi Cassablanca, underpass, Taman Rasuna, Kuningan Sentral Setiabudi Utara, Dukuh Atas, sampai Karet.

Selain menggunakan alat GPR, lanjut Sukmawati, pengerjaan pembangunan pondasi juga dilakukan dengan cara test pit. Artinya, penyelidikan (penggalian tanah) untuk mengetahui utilitas di bawah tanah secara manual. ''Setelah itu pondasi baru dibanguan dengan terlebih dulu memindahkan utilitas yang ada,'' ujar Sumawakti Syukur dalam siaran pers yang diterima Republika, kemarin. Dia tidak menampik jika selama pengerjaan jalur itu memubuat pengguna jalan terganggu. Meski demikian, pihaknya tetap mengupayakan agar arus lalu lintas di sekitar pengerjaan proyek tetap berjalan lancar. Karena itu pengerjaan jalur tersebut sebagian dilakukan pada malam hari atau pada sat arus lalu-lintas tidak terlalu sibuk.

lullu
March 21st, 2005, 06:38 AM
The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

The Jakarta Transportation Council (DTK) and city councillors warned over the weekend that they were unwilling to risk public money in the ambitious monorail project worth $650 million.

"I am afraid that giving (developer PT Jakarta Monorail) a form of a subsidy or loan will further entrap the Jakarta administration in what is a flawed contract so that it has to shoulder the burden of the project in the future. Worse still, the interests of Jakarta residents as taxpayers will be at serious risk for at least 30 years to come as stated in contract's term," DTK chairman Sutanto Soehodho told The Jakarta Post on Sunday.

"We have to stop this (contract) from getting worse. It has gone wrong and we cannot let the residents bear the administration's mistakes in the project," Sayogo Hendrosubroto, head of the City Council's commission D on development affairs and transportation told The Post.

Both Sutanto and Sayogo were asked to comment on the progress in the monorail project. Earlier Sutiyoso's Jakarta administration indicated it would approve a tranport subsidy for the monorail project as requested by consortium PT Jakarta Monorail (JM) to allow it to maintain its fares at an affordable level.

The consortium had asked for an annual subsidy of up to $20 million for up to eight years. The administration has tried to lower the cost of the subsidy by requesting the consortium switch to cheaper monorail technology from South Korea or the People's Republic of China instead of the more expensive Hitachi technology, which it says is pushing up the project's value.

Sutanto, who is also a transportation expert at the University of Indonesia, suspected an increase in the predicted project cost initially proposed by the consortium.

"The consortium has been playing around with changes it incessantly offers to the administration, like an equity-sharing scheme, an electronic road pricing scheme and now a tariff subsidy. I am afraid that the consortium doesn't really have the money it boasted earlier of having and therefore continues to go to the administration to ask it to help finance the project," he said.

He referred to other requests made earlier by the company to the administration to put $60 million equity into the project and to apply a road pricing traffic policy along the monorail routes, which would increase the cost of transport in parts of the city and ensure a high level of customers would use the cheaper system.

Sutanto called on the administration to immediately terminate the contract and open a tender to look for serious bidders who really had the cash to make the project happen.

PT Jakarta Monorail, which is owned by PT Indonesia Transit Central (ITC) and Omnico Singapore, Pte. Ltd, has been appointed to build two monorail lines totaling 27.8 kilometers in the capital.

Meanwhile, Sayogo said that the commission D would seek clarification from the consortium over the significant changes it made to the project recently.

"We have already put a time to meet with the consortium in our schedule this week," he said.

The consortium has repeatedly insisted it faces no financial difficulties in pursuing the project and said it was close to finalizing the deal.

Playing down all lingering obstacles, it says stage one of the project could still be operational by the end of next year.

However, so far there has been little progress made since the initial groundbreaking ceremony on Jl. Asia-Afrika, Central Jakarta in mid-June last year, which was officiated by then president Megawati Soekarnoputri.

Alvin
March 21st, 2005, 02:28 PM
Gist of the article:
- rescheduling of the Monorail construction schedule (no mention of delay though)
- Domestic investors to take 30% of stake.

Pembangunan Monorail Kemungkinan Dijadwal Ulang
JAKARTA - Pembangunan proyek monorail di Jakarta kemungkinan dijadwal ulang (reschedule). Pasalnya, pembangunan track (rel) yang dijadwalkan pada akhir Maret 2005, hingga kini belum diproses.

"Bisa jadi proyeknya akan di-reschedule. Tapi kami harapkan pelaksanaannya tetap on schedulle. Jadi PT Jakarta Monorail bisa fast track. Ibaratnya kalau kerja normal 24 jam, mereka harus 48 jam," kata Assisten Pembangunan Pemerintah Provinsi (Pemprov) DKI Jakarta, Harry Sandjojo, di Jakarta, akhir pekan lalu.

Menurut dia, secara teknis tidak ada persoalan dalam pelaksanaan proyek monorail. Namun, proyek tersebut belum dapat dilakukan karena masih ada masalah dalam financial closing.

"Masalahnya, hanya tinggal modal dan teknologi. Kalau semua sudah komitmen, proyek monorail langsung bisa jalan," ujar Harry.

Terkait dengan masalah permodalan, lanjutnya, PT Jakarta Monorail (JM) tengah melakukan penjajakan untuk menggandeng investor dalam negeri. Saat ini, beberapa investor dalam negeri tengah melakukan proses uji kelayakan (due diligence).

Beberapa investor yang disebut-sebut tengah melakukan penjajakan antara lain PT Bukaka Teknik Utama Tbk yang masih terkait dengan keluarga Wakil Presiden Yusuf Kalla. Selain itu, Bank Lippo dan Grup Priyatna juga dikabarkan tertarik untuk terlibat dalam proyek bernilai yang pembangunan infrastukturnya diperkirakan bernilai US$ 650 juta.

"Sudah ada investor lokal yang melakukan due diligence. Mereka kan, harus tahu kalau mau masuk posisinya bagaimana. Soalnya ini proyek yang nilainya besar," kata Harry.

Dia menjelaskan, investor lokal yang sedang melakukan penjajakan akan masuk dalam 30 persen kepemilikan yang ditawarkan JM. Pemprov DKI dan pemerintah pusat juga diberi tawaran untuk masuk dalam kepemilikan 30 persen saham itu.

"Jadi, di JM nanti 70 persen dimiliki konsorsium yang sudah terbentuk, baru investor lokal masuk untuk 30 persen dalam bentuk grup. Unsur investor lokalnya ada dari pemerintah ada juga swasta lokal. Tapi bentuk kerja sama dan komitmennya belum jelas. Semua lagi dibahas," ujar Harry.


"Best Effort"

Ketika ditanya mengenai klausul dalam perjanjian kerja sama (PKS) yang menyatakan Pemprov DKI Jakarta akan mengambil alih kalau ada masalah dalam proyek monorail, Harry membantah.

"Klausul yang ada itu, Pemprov DKI diminta untuk membantu kalau JM ada kesulitan. Bantuannya bukan dalam bentuk keuangan, tapi melakukan best effort untuk mengatasi kesulitan itu. Bisa saja best effort-nya dalam bentuk kebijakan atau membantu negosiasi dengan investor asing," kata Harry.

Mengenai kemungkinan Pemprov DKI mengambil bagian dalam kepemilikan 30 persen di JM, Harry mengatakan, hal itu sedang dikaji secara mendalam. Pasalnya, untuk ikut memiliki 30 persen saham JM berarti setoran modal yang diperlukan sebesar YS$ 60 juta atau Rp 600 miliar.

"Kalau misalnya dibagi enam atau tiga, berarti jatah kita bisa US$ 10 atau 20 Juta. Itu kan cukup tinggi. Apalagi ada permintaan subsidi US$ 20 juta. Jadi perlu dikaji," ujarnya.

Sedangkan mengenai permintaan subsidi tarif dari Pemprov DKI US$ 20 juta/ tahun yang diminta JM dila-kukan selama tujuh tahun, Harry mengatakan, hal itu dapat saja dilakukan jika betul-betul digunakan untuk meringankan beban masyarakat.

"Yang pasti subsidinya untuk masyarakat atau pengguna monorail. Bukan untuk perusahaan. Kalau sampai begitu, salah kita," kata Harry. (J-9)

JAG2
March 22nd, 2005, 06:35 PM
Hi guys,

I have difficulties reading Indonesian , and I m bit confused , is this Monorail project a NO-Go or a Go item in other words are they going to build this project or not ??

berniewrx
March 22nd, 2005, 07:38 PM
THE FOLLOWING 4 ARTICLES ARE THE LATEST INFO ON THE PROJECT. THEY ARE DATED MARCH 18, MARCH 19 AND 20, MARCH 21, AND MARCH 22. SORRY IF SOMEONE HAS POSTED THEM BEFORE.



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MEDIA MONITOR
PT JAKARTA MONORAIL
18 MARET 2005

I. MONORAIL

Judul 1 : Bukaka Tertarik Monorel
Media :
1. Koran Tempo / 18 Maret 2005 / Halaman B5

Ringkasan :
Kelompok usaha Bukaka tertarik menggarap monorel di Jakarta. Melalui PT Bukaka Foundry Industries, divisi kelompok Bukaka yang bergerak di bidang pembangkit energi, kelompok ini mengaku sanggup menggarap monorel dengan biaya US$ 350 juta atau hampir separuh dari nilai proyek monorel yang ditawarkan JM sebesar US$670 juta.
Direktur Operasional Bukaka Foundry Joko Susanto mengatakan, Bukaka akan mengajak BUMN menggarap proyek ini. Alasannya, menurut dia, banyak komponen monorel yang bisa dibuat di Indonesia. PT Industri Kereta Api Indonesia (Inka), misalnya, menurut Joko, bisa digandeng untuk menggarap gerbong kereta.
Dengan dukungan perusahaan dalam negeri, biaya pengadaan bisa ditekan hingga US$125-250 juta.
Menurut Joko, Bukaka akan bertindak sebagai fasilitator dalam proyek monorel. Selain itu, Bukaka mengaku bisa menggarap teknologi monorel.
Gubernur Sutiyoso mengaku belum mendengar tawaran ini. Dia malah berencana mengganti teknologi Hitachi yang akan ditawarkan oleh JM. Ia menilai harga teknologi yang ditawarkan perusahaan Jepang ini mahal.
Juru bicara PT JM Sukmawaty Syukur juga mengaku, terbuka peluang bagi investor lain untuk masuk barisan penggarap monorel. “Kami sangat welcome. Apalagi kami ‘kan tidak bisa membuat car-nya,”. Menurutnya, PT JM sudah membuka dialog dengan Bukaka. Bahkan, kata dia, tawaran Bukaka yang sanggup memotong nilai proyek hingga separuh ini menjadi perbandingan dalam peninjauan ulang nilai proyek monorel yang sedang diaudit. Dan menurut rencana, hasil audit akan diserahkan ke pemerintah DKI akhir Maret ini.


Judul 2 : BPK: Kontrak Jasa Tiket TransJakarta Rugikan DKI Jakarta
Media :
1. Kompas / 18 Maret 2005 / Halaman 18

Ringkasan :
Dari Balai Kota DKI dilaporkan, setelah memperhitungkan nilai investasi yang terlampau tinggi, teknologi monorel buatan Hitachi bakal digeser. Dalam waktu dekat, Gubernur Sutiyoso akan melirik monorel yang diproduksi Korea dan Cina.
Langkah-langkah untuk membandingkan harga monorel itu akan diambil Sutiyoso setelah menerima jajaran direksi konsorsium PT JM. Dalam pertemuan tertutup itu, Gubernur Sutiyoso ditawarkan untuik membandingkan teknologi monorel negara lain.
Sutiyoso mengatakan, bagaimanapun pembangunan sarana transportasi monorel harus tetap berjalan. Perlu diketahui, teknologi monorel Hitachi memang mahal. Sayangnya, setelah diperhitungkan dengan nilai investasinya, teknologi buatan Jepang itu sangat mahal.


Judul 3 : Hitachi Terancam Didepak dari Proyek Monorel DKI
Media :
1. Suara Karya / 18 Maret 2005 / Halaman 12
2. Republika / 18 Maret 2005 / Halaman 6
3. Neraca / 18 Maret 2005 / Halaman 9
4. Indo Pos / 18 Maret 2005 / Halaman 17
5. Berita Kota / 18 Maret 2005 / Halaman 5

Ringkasan :
Giliran Hitachi terancam didepak sebagai penyedia teknologi monorel. di Jakarta. Alasannya, karena teknologi monorel Hitachi terlalu mahal, tidak realistis. Sebelumnya, Pemprov DKI juga telah mendepak MTrans, perusahaan dari Malaysia, karena mereka menolak pembangunan dua jalur monorel sekaligus.
Kemungkinan didepaknya Hitachi dari proyek monorel tergambar dari keterangan Gubernur Sutiyoso yang menyatakan bahwa dia berencana akan terbang ke Korea Selatan dan RRC untuk menjajaki kerjasama pembangunan monorel di Jakarta dengan kedua negara tersebut.


II. PEMDA

Judul 1 : Tari Parkir “On Street” Sudah Naik Rp 2.000
Media :
1. Kompas / 18 Maret 2005 / Halaman 18

Ringkasan :
Para juru parkir di sejumlah lokasi telah menaikkan tarif parkir di pinggir jalan (on street) senilai Rp2.000 sekali parkir. Padahal, hingga kini masih terjadi tarik ulur antara DPRD DKI dan BP Perparkiran DKI atas usulan kenaikan tarif parkir itu yang tertuang dalam revisi Perda No 3 Tahun 1999 mengenai retribusi.


III. TRANSPORTASI

Judul 1 : BPK: Kontrak Jasa Tiket TransJakarta Rugikan DKI Jakarta
Media :
1. Kompas / 18 Maret 2005 / Halaman 18
2. Bisnis Indonesia / 18 Maret 2005 / Halaman 6

Ringkasan :
Badan Pemeriksa Keuangan (BPK) menilai kontrak jasa pengelolaan operator tiket bus TransJakarta per bulannya terlalu tinggi sehingga menimbulkan selisih sampai sebesar Rp 70,60 juta per bulan. Akibatnya, dalam waktu enam bulan, Pemerintah DKI Jakarta dirugikan sampai Rp 423,6 juta.
DKI dinyatakan oleh BPK dirugikan akibat pembayaran pengelolaan operator tiket yang sama sekali tidak dipungut pajak penghasilan (PPh) Pasal 23 sebesar Rp 47,25 juta ke kantor kas negara. Demikian hasil pemeriksaan BPK semester II tahun anggaran 2004 yang Selasa baru dilaporkan ke DPR.

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19 & 20 MARET 2005


I. MONORAIL

Judul 1 : City may subsidize monorail fares
Media :
1. The Jakarta Post / 19 Maret 2005 / Halaman 8

Ringkasan :
The Jakarta administration said on Friday that it would in all likelihood provide fare subsidies for the monorail to keep prices at affordable levels, but it would not participate as an equity partner, as requested by PT JM.
“We will probably agree to provide subsidies to keep fares affordable for Jakarta residents. But, we don’t want to take part directly in the project financing,” assistant to the city secretary for development affairs Hari Sandjojo said at City Hall.
The project consortium had asked the city administration for an equity injection of US$60 million, and for an annual subsidy of $20 million for a period of eight years.
Hari said the administration found it too burdensome to completely fulfill the two request. He said that the subsidies provided by the administration would be significantly lower because of the switch from using the costly Hitachi monorail technology to cheaper technology from South Korea and China.
Jakarta Governor Sutiyoso acknowledged that the administration could not afford the Hitachi technology, costing US$650 million.
He said that early in April he would dispatch a team to South Korea and China to study the technologies.
PT JM said earlier that it would speed up construction of the monorail this month.



Judul 2 : Teknologi Monorel Akan Dikaji Ulang
Media :
1. Suara Pembaruan / 18 Maret 2005 / Halaman 19

Ringkasan :
Pemprov DKI Jakarta akan meninjau ulang (review) teknologi monorel yang ditawarkan Hitachi. Pasalnya, teknologi dari Hitachi dinilai terlalu mahal. Meski akan meninjau ulang teknologi Hitachi yang bekerja sama dengan PT JM, namun Gubernur Sutiyoso menegaskan, proses pelaksanaan proyek tersebut tetap dijalankan oleh investor swasta itu.
Proses yang tetap dilakukan JM, antara lain persiapan perencanaan, software (perangkat lunak), dan keuangan khususnya mengenai komitmen dengan penyandang dana dari luar negeri.
Sutiyosp mengatakan, banyak investor yang sudah menawarkan diri, baik dari lokal maupun luar negeri. Salah satunya dari Cina.
Dia menambahkan, beberapa investor lokal juga telah melakukan pendekatan, namun dengan PT JM, bukan dengan Pemprov DKI.


II. PEMDA

Judul 1 : Sutiyoso: Pasar Tanah Abang Tetap Harus Dibongkar
Media :
1. Kompas / 19 Maret 2005 / Halaman 18

Ringkasan :
Gubernur Sutiyoso menegaskan, setelah melihat kondisi dan memperoleh masukan dari studi peneliti Institut Teknologi Bandung, Pasar Tanah Abang (Blok B hingga E) tetap harus dibongkar. Sebelum kebijakan pembongkaran dilaksanakan, PD Pasar Jaya harus mengekspos gagasannya terlebih dahulu.
Sementara itu, panitia khusus (Pansus) Tanah Abang DPRD DKI gagal menyediakan pembanding hasil kajian kelayakan konstruksi bangunan PRTA Blok A sampai E. Awalnya, kajian pembanding itu diminta para pedagang dari Universitas Indonesia.


Judul 2 : Warga Kebon Melati Tolak Ganti Rugi Rp 3 Juta per Meter
Media :
1. Koran Tempo / 19 Maret 2005 / Halaman B5

Ringkasan :
Warga Jl Batu Raja RW 20 Kebon Melati, Tanah Abang, Jakpus, menolak ganti rugi pembebasan lahan senilai Rp 3 juta per meter persegi. Salah seorang warga mengatakan bahwa mereka meminta harga di atas Rp 5 juta per meter persegi. Alasn warga tersebut wajar mengingat kawasan itu berada di jantung segi emas Jakarta yang bersebelahan dengan Jl Jenderal Sudirman.


III. TRANSPORTASI

Judul 1 : Proyek Busway Koridor II dan III Akan Dimulai Lagi Akhir April
Media :
1. Kompas / 19 Maret 2005 / Halaman 18
2. Media Indonesia / 19 Maret 2005 / Halaman 6
3. Investor Daily Indonesia / 19 Maret 2005 / Halaman 17
4. The Jakarta Post / 19 Maret 2005 / Halaman 8

Ringkasan :
Hingga pertengahan Maret ini, proyek pembangunan jalur busway koridor II (Pulogadung-Harmoni) dan koridor III (Harmoni-Kalideres) masih terhenti karena alasan administrasi. Dishub Provinsi DKI Jakarta menjadwalkan pembangunan jalur untuk bus TransJakarta itu dimulai kembali akhir April mendatang.
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PT JAKARTA MONORAIL
21 MARET 2005


I. MONORAIL

Judul 1 : Public interest at stake in monorail project: Experts
Media :
1. The Jakarta Post / 21 Maret 2005 / Halaman 8

Ringkasan :
The Jakarta Transportation Council (DTK) and city concillors warned over the weekend that they were unwilling to risk public money in the ambitious monorail project.
“I am afraid that giving (developer PT JM) a form of a subsidy or loan will further entrap the Jakarta administration in what is a flawed contract so that it has to shoulder the burden of the project in the future. Worse still, the interests of Jakarta residents as taxpayers will be at least 30 years to come as stated in contract’s term,” DTK chairman Sutanto Soehodo told The Jakarta Post on Sunday.
“We have to stop this (contract) from getting worse. It has gone wrong ang we cannot let the residents bear the administration’s mistakes in the project,” told Sayogo Hendrosubroto, head of the City Council’s commision D on development affairs and transportation.
Both Sutanto and Sayogo were asked to comment on the progress in the monorail project. Earlier Sutiyoso’s Jakarta administration indicated it would approve a transport subsidy for the monorail project as requested by consortium PT JM to allow it to maintain its fares at an affordable level.
Sutanto, who is also a transportation expert at the UI, suspected an increases in the predicted project cost initially proposed by the consortium.
He referred to other requests made earlie by the company to the administration to put US$60 million equity into the project and to apply a road pricing traffic policy along the monorail routes, which would increase the cost of tranport in parts of the city and ensure a high level of customers would use the cheaper system.


Judul 2 : Jakarta Monorail Masih Menegosiasi Hitachi
Media :
1. Investor Daily Indonesia / 21 Maret 2005 / Halaman 6

Ringkasan :
Direktur Utama PT JM Ruslan Diwirjo mengatakan, penggunaan teknologi Hitachi Asia Ltd dalam pembangunan monorel di Jakarta masih tahap negosiasi. Hal itu diungkapkan menanggapi informasi yang berkembang kedua belah pihak sudah ‘cerai’ karena tak kunjung mendapatkan kata sepakat, dan pihak JM telah meminang pihak lain menggantikan Hitachi.
“Sampai saat ini kita masih bernegosiasi dengan Hitachi. Memang ada beberapa hal yang perlu dibahas. Tapi belum ada istilah ‘cerai’itu,” kata Ruslan kepada Investor Daily, pekan lalu.
Di tempat terpisah, Direktur Operasional PT JM Sukmawaty Syukur menjelaskan, negosiasi dengan Hitachi tersebut dilakukan untuk mendapatkan keringanan harga maupun dukungan pendanaannya dari Hitachi. “Juga ada permintaan review dan audit terhadap harga penawaran tersebut pada saat kami menindak lanjuti permintaan tersebut dengan menawarkan perbandingan untuk melihat beberapa alternatif supplier teknologi yang mengundang kami yaitu dari Cina dan Korea.”
Menurut Sukma, JM telah mendapatkan undangan dari Cina dan Korea untuk menjajaki kemngkinan teknologo mereka. “Yang paling dibutuhkan sekarang adalah komitmen financing dari supplier, bahwa mereka harus menjamin membawa softloan atau kredit supplier yang murah dan tidak memerlukan sovereign guarantee sehingga tidak membebani proyek,” jelasnya.


Judul 3 : Proyek Monorel Jalan Lagi
Media :
1. Koran Tempo / 21 Maret 2005 / Halaman B5
2. Suara Karya / 21 Maret 2005 / Halaman 9
3. Republika / 21 Maret 2005 / Halaman 7
4. Neraca / 21 Maret 2005 / Halaman 9

Ringkasan :
Setelah sempat terhenti, proyek monorel berlanjut kembali. PT JM melanjutkan pembangunan proyek monorel di jalur Casablanca-Karet sepanjang kurang-lebih 5 kliometer. Pembangunan ini kelanjutan dari loading test (uji kekuatan daya tekan dan daya tarik fondasi dengan batu seberat 900 ton) di jalur Asia Afrika.

(Isi berita adalah siaran pers yang diedarkan oleh PT JM 19 Maret 2005)


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PT JAKARTA MONORAIL
22 MARET 2005


I. MONORAIL

Judul 1 : Pembangunan Monorail Kemungkinan Dijadwal Ulang
Media :
1. Suara Pembaruan / 21 Maret 2005 / Halaman 19

Ringkasan :
Pembangunan proyek monorel di Jakarta kemungkinan dijadwal ulang (reschedulle). Pasalnya, pembangunan rel (track) yang dijadwalkan pada akhir Maret 2005, hingga kini belum diproses.
“Bisa jadi proyeknya akan di-reschedulle. Tapi kami harapkan pelaksanaannya tetap on schedulle. Jadi PT JM bisa fast track. Ibaratnya kalau kerja normal 24 jam, mereka harus 48 jam,” kata Asisten Pembangunan Pemprov DKI Jakarta Hari Sandjojo.
Menurutnya, secara teknis tidak ada persoalan dalam pelaksanaan proyek monorel. Namun, proyek tersebut belum dapat dilakukan karena masih ada masalah dalam financial closing.
“Masalahnya, hanya tinggal modal dan teknologi. Kalau semua sudah komitmen, proyek monorel langsung bisa jalan,” ujar Hari.


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tata
March 22nd, 2005, 09:31 PM
Hi guys,

I have difficulties reading Indonesian , and I m bit confused , is this Monorail project a NO-Go or a Go item in other words are they going to build this project or not ??

Jag, this project's still a GO one. Currently Jakarta administration looks for alternative to lower the total cost of this project.
One of them will be to ask Hitachi to cut the price of monorail units or looking for other vendor such as from Korea or China. Governor Sutiyoso will visit those two countries to see their technology.

Seems to me, the first priority is to approach Hitachi and if it doesnt work, then see others.

PT Jakarta Monorail on the other side tried to convinced the public that they are serious and lately said they'll restart the construction soon.

The jakarta administration more likely agrees to subsidize this project to make the ticket price reasonable.

There is still a gap between the consortium and the city administration about the involvement of the city to fund the construction (30% of the project if I'm not mistaken)

Hope this helps you ;)

JAG2
March 22nd, 2005, 09:48 PM
Hi Tata,

thanks ,it s crystal clear now.

Alvin
March 22nd, 2005, 11:34 PM
Pembangunan Monorel Dilanjutkan di Kuningan


Jakarta, Kompas - Tidak adanya kemajuan pembangunan di Jalan Asia Afrika, Jakarta Pusat, ternyata disebabkan pembangunan jalur kereta rel tunggal (monorel) saat ini dilanjutkan di kawasan Kuningan, Jakarta Selatan.

Kelanjutan pembangunan monorel itu terlihat di jalur hijau (green line), dekat Waduk Setia Budi menuju Jalan HR Rasuna Said, Kuningan, Jakarta Selatan, Selasa (22/3).

Menurut Bovanantoo, Tim Engineering Konsorsium PT Jakarta Monorel, pada areal yang akan dikerjakan saat ini sedang dipasang pembatas khusus. Untuk menyelamatkan pepohonan, PT Jakarta Monorel berkoordinasi dengan Dinas Pertamanan DKI.

Direktur PT Jakarta Monorel Sukmawati Syukur menjelaskan, pembangunan proyek ini melewati beberapa tahapan sebelum fondasi dibangun, seperti geo penetrating radar untuk mendeteksi pipa atau kabel di bawah tanah. Diperkirakan, pekerjaan ini memakan waktu selama 73 hari (2,5 bulan).

Pembangunan jalur menggunakan alat pendeteksi (test pit) sebanyak 14 titik. Pelaksanaan pekerjaan itu meliputi Casablanca, Taman Rasuna, Kuningan Sentral, Setiabudi Utara, Dukuh Atas, hingga Karet.

Sukmawati menuturkan, pendeteksian jaringan tanah secara manual ini penting untuk lebih memastikan utilitas, seperti jaringan Telkom, listrik, air minum, atau gas. (OSA)

tata
March 24th, 2005, 09:11 PM
Pembangunan Monorail Jakarta Terhambat Dana
Kamis, 24 Maret 2005 | 13:29 WIB

TEMPO Interaktif, Jakarta:PT Jakarta Monorail (JM) hari ini, Kamis (24/3) bertemu dengan Komisi D Dewan Perwakilan Rakyat Daerah DKI Jakarta. Pertemuan itu membahas tentang perkembangan rencana pembangunan monorail di Jakarta.

Tampak hadir Direktur Utama PT JM, Ruslan Diwiryo, didampingi Direktur Operasional, Sukmawaty Sjukur, dan Direktur Teknis, Buvananto. Rapat ini dipimpin oleh Ketua Komisi D, Sayogo Hendrosoebroto.

Hingga saat ini proyek monorail membutuhkan dana sekitar US$ 650 juta. PT JM meminta, ada subsidi 30 persen dari modal awal sekitar US$ 250 juta. Subsidi ini berasal dari dana pemerintah DKI dan investor lokal.

tata
March 24th, 2005, 10:05 PM
Kamis, 24/03/2005 15:34 WIB
JM targetkan kenaikan PAD Rp900 miliar
oleh : Hendra Wibawa

JAKARTA (Bisnis): PT Jakarta Monorail (JM) menargetkan kenaikan PAD US$100 juta (sekitar Rp900 miliar) jika electronic road pricing (ERP) diberlakukan di koridor monorail.

Sukmati Syukur, direktur Operasional PT JM, mengatakan tambahan PAD langsung itu akan diperoleh mulai 2007 saat dioperasikannya monorail di Jakarta.

"Tambahan PAD ini secara teknis akan bisa didapat tahun 2007 saat diberlakukan ERP koridor monorail. Secaa teknis kami siap namun secara regulasi mungkin akan terhambat di DPRD," ujarnya dalam dengar pendapat Komisi D dengan PT JM hari ini.

Menurut dia, pemberlakuan ERP di jalur monorail akan membawa efisiensi akibat berkurangnya kemacetan, termasuk perpindahan mobil pribadi ke monorail.

Dia juga merinci ada keuntungan lain yang didapat Pemprov DKI yaitu estimasi sekitar Rp4 triliun pertahun atau sekitar 30% biaya pemasukan di kota Jakarta yang sampai Rp13 triliun per tahun.

Dia mengatakan hasil studi ini dibuat 1998. Kenaikan PAD lain yaitu dari sektor riil antara lain ruang sewa, ritel dan iklan di stasiun monorail yang diestimasikan mencapai Rp45 miliar per tahun.

Selain itu, kata dia, dioperasikannya monorail dapat membuka lapangan kerja baru bagi warga Jakarta sampai 10.000 orang selama masa konstruksi dan 4.000 selama masa operasi. Potensi pengembangan industri juga akan terbantu seperti komponen suku cadang dan mesin-mesin monorail.

"Kami sudah menjalin kerjasama dengan PT KAI, PT Inka, PT Dirgantara Indonesia dan lainnya untuk turut serta menjalankan monorail di Jakarta."

Fir3blaze
March 25th, 2005, 02:13 PM
The JM consortium keep saying all these flowery things, yet they don't have enough money to keep their obligation (building the monorail line). I'm not buying what they say until they resume construction at full speed.

tata
March 28th, 2005, 11:38 PM
Keikutsertaan PT Bukaka dan PT Inka dalam Pembuatan Monorel Dipertimbangkan


Jakarta, Kompas - Di tengah status Hitachi (Jepang) selaku pembuat kereta rel tunggal (monorel) yang sedang ditinjau kembali (review), kini PT Jakarta Monorel memperoleh usulan dari konsorsium dalam negeri yang sanggup membuat gerbong monorel. Adapun konsorsium itu adalah PT Bukaka dan PT Indonesia Railway Industry/Industri Kereta Api (Inka).

Padahal, Gubernur DKI Sutiyoso akan menjajaki terlebih dahulu teknologi monorel buatan Korea dan China. Keinginan kedua konsorsium itu diakui Presiden Direktur PT JM Ruslan Diwirjo kepada Kompas di Jakarta, Senin (28/3) petang.

"Secara prinsip, kami menerima saja perusahaan yang mau ikut dalam pembangunan monorel. Hanya saja, pembangunan ini membutuhkan kemampuan profesionalitas tinggi, sebab risikonya juga sangat tinggi," kata Ruslan.

Seperti diberitakan, ketika studi kelayakan monorel sedang dikerjakan, pihak PT Inka sudah menemui Gubernur Sutiyoso untuk dapat ikut-serta dalam pembuatan bodi monorail. Waktu itu, pengembang asing teknologi monorel adalah MTrans Holdings (Malaysia).

Direktur Utama Inka Roos Diatmoko mengaku, pihaknya hanya mengajukan konsep kepada gubernur. Dalam sejarah transportasi, perkembangan teknologi monorel terdiri berbagai bentuk, seperti model suspended, straddle, maglev, dan monobeam. "Melihat peluang pembangunan monorel, Inka mengajukan konsep bentuk gerbong monorel," ujar Roos, yang menemukan kendala bahan baku aluminium monorel. (Kompas, 3/10/2003)

Direktur PT JM Sukmawati menjelaskan, keunggulan Hitachi terletak pada kualitas teknologi dan performance garansinya, serta komitmen waktu. Hitachi siap mengantar teknologi monorel pada awal tahun 2007. Namun, harganya cukup mahal, sehingga proyek ini membutuhkan tambahan komitmen Pemerintah Provinsi DKI.

Dalam kesempatan itu, Sukmawati juga menuturkan, pihaknya sudah menjabarkan perkembangan proyek monorel di hadapan DPRD DKI Jakarta, Kamis 24 Maret lalu. Pertemuan itu bukan memfokuskan pada permintaan garansi-garansi untuk pembangunan monorel.

Skema pendanaan telah disiapkan oleh tim lokal (PT Andalan Artha Advisindo Sekuritas) dan tim penyedia finansial internasional (Banca Intesa Hongkong). "Perusahaan-perusahaan ini akan menyelesaikan seluruh komitmen equity (modal) dan pinjaman kredit," kata Sukmawati.

Perlu diketahui, lanjut Sukmawati, PT JM dan Pemprov DKI telah sepakat bahwa saat ini tidak diperlukan equity dari pemerintah. Tetapi, soal usulan subsidi selama tujuh tahun sebesar maksimal 20 juta dollar AS per tahun, hal ini sedang dipelajari.

"Jika bertujuan untuk meringankan tarif monorel, tentunya mekanismenya harus disepakati lebih dahulu," ujarnya. (OSA)

Sielo
March 29th, 2005, 09:43 AM
Matahari and Bukaka eye Jakarta's MRT project

Damar Harsanto and Bambang Nurbianto, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

The Matahari and Bukaka Groups have expressed interest in taking up the US$60 million equity PT Jakarta Monorail requested from the city administration to finance the $650 million mass rapid transit (MRT) system.

Governor Sutiyoso said on Monday that several businessmen, including Robby Sumampouw of the Matahari Group, were seriously studying the project.

"They are still studying the profitability of the project and the equity-sharing scheme proposed by the consortium recently," Sutiyoso said.

Earlier, the governor also said that Lippo Group was interested in the project, but Lippo denied the news just days later.

PT Jakarta Monorail's (JM) operational director Sukmawaty Sjukur, meanwhile, said on Monday that her company had met representatives of Vice President Jusuf Kalla's PT Bukaka Teknik Utama, which has also expressed interest in producing cars for the MRT.

According to her, Bukaka would cooperate with state-owned train maker PT INKA.

"They said they would soon make an official offer to Jakarta Monorail. We welcome any party interested to cooperate with us, including domestic investors," he told The Jakarta Post on Monday.

Desperate to secure loans needed to finance the project, JM -- which Sutiyoso directly appointed to build and operate the country's first MRT system for at least the first 30 years -- had asked the city administration to inject $60 million as equity into the project.

Although the proposal was widely criticized, Sutiyoso has expressed readiness to invest in the endeavor.

The administration is also considering approving JM's proposal to use cheaper technology, rather than Japanese Hitachi technology.

"I will depart for South Korea and the People's Republic of China early next month to see their MRT technology and make a comparison between cheaper technologies and Hitachi's," he said.

According to him, the administration will make a final decision on the technology adopted next month.

He acknowledged that uncertainties had slowed the project's progress, making it likely that the target for operation, which had been set for the end of 2006, would not likely be met.

"JM has promised to make up the time lost due to the financing problem. But, I think it will miss the target. Hopefully, the MRT will be operational by early 2007 at the latest," he added.

JM, which is owned by PT Indonesia Transit Central (ITC) and Omnico Singapore, Pte. Ltd, has also asked for an annual tariff subsidy of up to $20 million for up to eight years to keep the MRT fare at an "affordable" Rp 5,000.

JM has also asked the administration to impose a policy whereby fees would be charged for traveling on roads parallel to the MRT's corridors to boost MRT passengers, who would presumably be discouraged from driving.

macgyver
March 29th, 2005, 10:13 AM
Matahari and Bukaka eye Jakarta's MRT project

Damar Harsanto and Bambang Nurbianto, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

The Matahari and Bukaka Groups have expressed interest in taking up the US$60 million equity PT Jakarta Monorail requested from the city administration to finance the $650 million mass rapid transit (MRT) system.

Governor Sutiyoso said on Monday that several businessmen, including Robby Sumampouw of the Matahari Group, were seriously studying the project.

"They are still studying the profitability of the project and the equity-sharing scheme proposed by the consortium recently," Sutiyoso said.

Earlier, the governor also said that Lippo Group was interested in the project, but Lippo denied the news just days later.

PT Jakarta Monorail's (JM) operational director Sukmawaty Sjukur, meanwhile, said on Monday that her company had met representatives of Vice President Jusuf Kalla's PT Bukaka Teknik Utama, which has also expressed interest in producing cars for the MRT.

According to her, Bukaka would cooperate with state-owned train maker PT INKA.

"They said they would soon make an official offer to Jakarta Monorail. We welcome any party interested to cooperate with us, including domestic investors," he told The Jakarta Post on Monday.

Desperate to secure loans needed to finance the project, JM -- which Sutiyoso directly appointed to build and operate the country's first MRT system for at least the first 30 years -- had asked the city administration to inject $60 million as equity into the project.

Although the proposal was widely criticized, Sutiyoso has expressed readiness to invest in the endeavor.

The administration is also considering approving JM's proposal to use cheaper technology, rather than Japanese Hitachi technology.

"I will depart for South Korea and the People's Republic of China early next month to see their MRT technology and make a comparison between cheaper technologies and Hitachi's," he said.

According to him, the administration will make a final decision on the technology adopted next month.

He acknowledged that uncertainties had slowed the project's progress, making it likely that the target for operation, which had been set for the end of 2006, would not likely be met.

"JM has promised to make up the time lost due to the financing problem. But, I think it will miss the target. Hopefully, the MRT will be operational by early 2007 at the latest," he added.

JM, which is owned by PT Indonesia Transit Central (ITC) and Omnico Singapore, Pte. Ltd, has also asked for an annual tariff subsidy of up to $20 million for up to eight years to keep the MRT fare at an "affordable" Rp 5,000.

JM has also asked the administration to impose a policy whereby fees would be charged for traveling on roads parallel to the MRT's corridors to boost MRT passengers, who would presumably be discouraged from driving.



Noooo ....
please not matahari .....
He always do short term business ......
LIPPO is well known for this ...... Getting money quick then Leave ....

See ... the License for 3G ..... they just sell it for a quick money ....
See Link Net ....
See Lipposhop ...

Jangan dech ... jangan ..... :)

Alvin
March 30th, 2005, 01:58 AM
Summary:
- Monorail construction restarts in Kuningan, trees to be chopped off.
- Trackwork heavy materials to arrive from Malaysia in April.

Untuk Jalur Monorel, Pohon-pohon di Kawasan Kuningan Terancam Ditebang

Jakarta, Kompas - Pepohonan di sepanjang Jalan HR Rasuna Said, Kuningan, Jakarta Selatan, terancam ditebang sebagai akibat pembangunan jalur monorel. Pembangunan jalur kereta rel tunggal itu juga bakal memacetkan arus lalu lintas di lokasi bisnis ini.


Sejauh pengamatan, Selasa (29/3), pembangunan jalur monorel mulai diarahkan di kawasan Kuningan. Selama ini pemasangan tiang-tiang fondasi cuma berkutat di median Jalan Asia-Afrika, Senayan.

Kini, pohon-pohon rindang yang berada di median jalan mulai terancam keberadaannya. Sebelum penanaman tiang-tiang fondasi, PT Jakarta Monorel (JM) mulai menggali tanah secara manual untuk mendeteksi jaringan utilitas, seperti listrik, pipa air bersih, telepon, dan gas.

Atas terancamnya pepohonan yang sudah berumur dan menjadi kekhasan kawasan Kuningan, Direktur PT JM Sukmawati Syukur mengatakan, "PT JM tetap mempertimbangkan secara realistis. Kami lebih memilih lokasi fondasi jalur monorel itu di median jalan antara jalur cepat dan jalur lambat."

Kalau diperhatikan, lanjut Sukmawati, tanaman yang terdapat di sepanjang median jalan antara jalur cepat dan lambat itu hanya terdiri dari tanaman kecil-kecil. Bahkan, ada juga yang diletakkan di dalam pot berbentuk memanjang. Jadi, tidak ada pohon-pohon tinggi seperti di median jalan itu.

Ia mengakui, pembangunan untuk menciptakan sistem transportasi yang lebih baik memang membutuhkan banyak pengorbanan, bukan cuma dari pihak pemerintah atau instansi-instansi swasta lainnya, tetapi juga masyarakat.

Selama jalur monorel dibangun, kemacetan arus lalu lintas memang sudah diprediksi. Karena itu, sejak sepekan lalu, beberapa titik lokasi fondasi jalur monorel itu sudah dipasang separator (pembatas jalan). Sebelum tiang-tiang fondasi jalur monorel ditanam, permohonan maaf akan terjadinya kemacetan sudah dipasang.

"Sebagai bentuk pertanggungjawaban terhadap publik, kami bukan cuma memasang separator, tetapi juga menghiasi dengan gambar monorel yang bakal dioperasikan di Jakarta tahun 2007," kata Sukmawati. Selain gambar monorel, lanjut dia, PT JM juga menyampaikan permohonan maaf.

Presiden Direktur PT JM Ruslan Diwirjo menyebutkan, pekerjaan teknis jalur monorel akan terus berlanjut, terutama persiapan fondasi. Pemesanan alat-alat berat dari Malaysia untuk pembuatan trek diperkirakan tiba di Indonesia pada April. (OSA)

627
March 30th, 2005, 02:31 AM
wow that sucks.. do they really have to chop off the trees? they had better replace the chopped off trees with some sort of shrubbery or any kind of greenery, cuz i bet kuningan would probably look ugly without any green.

Alvin
March 30th, 2005, 02:38 AM
wow that sucks.. do they really have to chop off the trees? they had better replace the chopped off trees with some sort of shrubbery or any kind of greenery, cuz i bet kuningan would probably look ugly without any green.
I agree totally. But I'm sure there's some space for greenery underneath the monorail tracks where the supporting poles aren't located.

Alvin
March 30th, 2005, 02:40 AM
Btw, did you understand the article? the person responsible said they deliberately chose to construct the monorail on the median between the slow and the fast lanes, which means that apparently no large trees will be chopped off, only smaller plants.

macgyver
March 30th, 2005, 06:07 AM
Btw, did you understand the article? the person responsible said they deliberately chose to construct the monorail on the median between the slow and the fast lanes, which means that apparently no large trees will be chopped off, only smaller plants.

Yess ..... Agree with Alvin ......

Here is the quotes


Atas terancamnya pepohonan yang sudah berumur dan menjadi kekhasan kawasan Kuningan, Direktur PT JM Sukmawati Syukur mengatakan, "PT JM tetap mempertimbangkan secara realistis. Kami lebih memilih lokasi fondasi jalur monorel itu di median jalan antara jalur cepat dan jalur lambat."

Kalau diperhatikan, lanjut Sukmawati, tanaman yang terdapat di sepanjang median jalan antara jalur cepat dan lambat itu hanya terdiri dari tanaman kecil-kecil. Bahkan, ada juga yang diletakkan di dalam pot berbentuk memanjang. Jadi, tidak ada pohon-pohon tinggi seperti di median jalan itu.


I am trying to tranlsate this :

As the old trees , a typical of Kuningan arean, are threathened by the project. The Director of PT JM Sukmawati Syukur said that PT JM still considering it realistically. " We are prefer to choose the structure to be built in the median between the fast lane and the slow lane."

If we take a look at it carefully, added SUkmawati, the tress that are lies on the median between the fast lane and the slow lane is merely a small type of trees. Even there are only trees on the pot ( vast structure). So there are no big trees on that median"

HTH ... :-)

My question is .... in which Median ? ... the one at the west side or at the east side .......
If it is the one on the east side .......
Then ... I can throw ... granade to Australia Embassy .... from Monorail ... :jk:

Alvin
April 5th, 2005, 05:29 AM
City OKs fare subsidy for monorail
Damar Harsanto, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

Governor Sutiyoso revealed on Monday that the city administration had decided to accept the request by the PT Jakarta Monorail (JM) consortium, for a subsidy for monorail fares in order to keep them at an affordable level of Rp 5,000 per single trip.

"We will certainly provide the fare subsidy, but we are still calculating the exact amount," Sutiyoso told reporters at City Hall.

JM, which is owned by PT Indonesia Transit Central (ITC) and Omnico Singapore, Pte. Ltd, has asked the administration to provide an annual fare subsidy of up to US$20 million for eight years to reduce fares to Rp 5,000 from the estimated economic level of Rp 12,500.

However, Sutiyoso asserted that the administration would seek to reduce the fare subsidy by changing the monorail technology to be used.

"That's why I will leave next week for South Korea and the People's Republic of China to seek alternative, cheaper monorail technology to replace costly technology from Japan," Sutiyoso said.

If JM and the administration were to push ahead with using technology from Japan's Hitachi, they will have to shove deeper into their cash-strapped pockets to finance the project, which is valued at $650 million.

Both have decided to drop the technology owing to financial constraints and will seek alternatives by using Korean or Chinese technology, which it is believed will to be much cheaper.

Sutiyoso is scheduled to visit Seoul and Beijing for four days next week.

No details were immediately available on Monday on what the differences were between the Japanese technology and Korean or Chinese technology.

Previously, JM and the administration had terminated a contract worth $540 million for the same project with a Malaysian company, MTrans Holding Bhd, also due to financing problems.

Aside from the fare subsidy, JM had earlier also requested the administration to provide 30 percent of the initial equity of $200 million, which would amount to approximately $60 million, it needs in order to convince banks to provide loans worth $450 million.

JM operational director Sukmawaty Syukur, however, revealed that her consortium had withdrawn the request for equity participation by the administration.

"We think that our funds are enough (to go on with the project) thanks to the expected revision in the technology, which will significantly reduce investment costs," Sukmawaty said.

She added that JM had received a number of approaches from local companies that were interested in taking part in the project.

She said that one local company was interested in buying the 30 percent equity previously offered to the city administration, but asked The Jakarta Post not to reveal the name of the firm, saying that the matter was still subject to negotiation.

She admitted that protracted uncertainties clouding the project would likely put the completion of the project.

"I think it will definitely miss the initial target (of opening by the end of 2006). But, we hope the monorail will start operating early in 2007 at the latest," she said.

When up and running, the monorail will cater to transportation needs in prime business areas of the city through a 14.3 kilometer line and less lucrative areas through a 13.5 kilometer line from Kampung Melayu, East Jakarta to Taman Anggrek Mall, West Jakarta.

Medan01
April 5th, 2005, 09:38 AM
I was on the Hitachi monorail trains last week from Haneda to Hamamatsucho and it was the most comfortable and most heavy duty monorail I was ever on. This is not the vanity type trains for the amusement park. The Japanese, especially Hitachi, holds the patent of this technology and I believe it is the best.

I just hope that Jakarta is not sacrificing quality and safety for money. We all know that Jakarta needs only the best and most heavy duty monorail.

Alvin
April 5th, 2005, 09:51 AM
yeah I agree...but I guess it makes a difference if you really can't afford it. Indonesia is poor :(

macgyver
April 5th, 2005, 10:31 AM
yeah I agree...but I guess it makes a difference if you really can't afford it. Indonesia is poor :(

Alvin ... I have to rephrase your statement ....

Indonesia is not poor.

Indonesia has a huge assets ......
But we're lack of capitals ...
Even Worse ...... are unable to make capitals out of It's assets ....

Due to what ?

Corruption ..... :bash:

Fir3blaze
April 5th, 2005, 05:30 PM
I just hope that Jakarta is not sacrificing quality and safety for money. We all know that Jakarta needs only the best and most heavy duty monorail.

I agree with this. Anything less than the "best" will not work in the long run.

Alvin
April 6th, 2005, 07:12 AM
I agree with this. Anything less than the "best" will not work in the long run.
Ideally we get the best technology, i.e. Hitachi.. but if this means that they'll have to charge Rp12,500 for a single ticket I wonder who's gonna be using it...
in this respect, there's a tradeoff between quality and accessibility...and for a big city like Jakarta with huge traffic congestion problem, choosing the latter is perhaps wise. :)

Fir3blaze
April 6th, 2005, 07:23 PM
Ideally we get the best technology, i.e. Hitachi.. but if this means that they'll have to charge Rp12,500 for a single ticket I wonder who's gonna be using it...
in this respect, there's a tradeoff between quality and accessibility...and for a big city like Jakarta with huge traffic congestion problem, choosing the latter is perhaps wise. :)

With ticket price of Rp 12,500, Jakarta should just build a very light monorail, since like you said no one will ride on it anyway. I meant "the best" as heaviest and yet most reliable. And of course, i agree with you that there's a price-quality tradeoff in any case. :)

ncon
April 7th, 2005, 03:28 PM
HERE PROBABLY THE LATEST MONORAIL NEWS:
READ IT

April 6th 2005 ; 8:51:42 AM
City approves monorail fare subsidy

Governor Sutiyoso disclosed that the city administration certainly receives the request by the PT Jakarta Monorail (JM) consortium, for a subsidy for monorail fares in order to keep them at an affordable level of Rp 5,000 per single trip.

"We are surely providing the fare subsidy, but we are still calculating the exact amount," Sutiyoso was quoted as saying by The Jakarta Post.
JM, which is owned by PT Indonesia Transit Central (ITC) and Omnico Singapore, Pte. Ltd, has asked the administration to provide an annual fare subsidy of up to US$20 million for eight years to reduce fares to Rp 5,000 from the estimated economic level of Rp 12,500.

Sutiyoso also stated the administration would seek to reduce the fare subsidy by changing the monorail technology to be used, adding he planned to leave for South Korea and the People's Republic of China to seek alternative.

Alvin
April 9th, 2005, 04:42 AM
Bisnis Indonesia - 9 April 2005

Pemprov DKI kaji ulang investasi monorel Hitachi

JAKARTA (Bisnis): Pemprov DKI Jakarta memastikan mengkaji ulang (review) nilai investasi teknologi monorel Hitachi Jepang yang dianggap terlalu mahal untuk diterapkan di dua jalur monorel Jakarta.
Gubernur DKI Jakarta, Sutiyoso, mengatakan total investasi untuk membangun monorel yang ditawarkan Hotachi Jepang mencapai US$670 juta sementara di beberapa negara Asia lain seperti China dan Korea Selatan lebih rendah.

"Akan kami review. Dulu investor rada goyah karena ada ledakan bom di Kedubes Australia di Kuningan. Jadi mereka [Hitachi Jepang] minta kenaikan," katanya di Jakarta, Jumat.

Untuk itu, Sutiyoso berencana berangkat ke China dan Korsel pada 14 April nanti untuk memastikan seberapa besar nilai investasi teknologi monorel di kedua negara tersebut. "Saya yakin di China dan Korsel lebih murah."

Dia mengungkapkan Pemprov DKI Jakarta akan memutuskan teknologi monorel yang tepat diterapkan di DKI Jakarta setelah pulang dari China dan Korsel.

"Seperti orang beli baju, kalau di Bandung kan lebih murah, tapi yang penting pakai baju," Kata Sutiyoso.

Direktur Operasional PT Jakarta Monorel (PT JM), Sukmawaty Syukur mengatakan segera menghitung ulang nilai proyek dan skema subsidi monorel dengan tetap menjaga agar teknologi monorel tetap berkualitas.

Menurut dia, ada beberapa holding company yang berniat menginvestasikan dananya ke proyek monorel menyusul rencana peninjauan ulang nilai pembangunannya. Perusahaan itu antara lain Bukaka Group (Indonesia), Hitachi Asia (Jepang), dan perusahaan dari Korsel.

"Kami minta lampu hijau agar perhitungan ulang ini tidak menghambat pembangunan monorel," katanya kepada Bisnis, Kamis.

Meski begitu PT JM tetap meninjau ulang nilai proyek pembangunan dua jalur monorel di DKI Jakarta sesuai permintaan Gubernur DKI Jakarta, Sutiyoso.

"Gubernur [Sutiyoso] minta nilai proyek US$670 juta dikaji ulang agar lebih murah asal tetap reliable diterapkan," katanya kepada Bisnis, Kamis.

Terlalu mahal

Dia juga menegaskan peninjauan ulang terpaksa dilakukan demi menurunkan nilai proyek yang dianggap terlalu mahal untuk rute sepanjang 27 km.

Sukmawaty pernah menjamin beroperasinya monorel akan menguntungkan Pemprov DKI Jakarta. Kenaikan PAD sampai US$100 juta (sekitar Rp900 miliar) bila electronic road pricing/ERP (melarang pengguna kendaraan yang melintasi jalan yang dilalui koridor monorel diberlakukan di koridor monorel dengan denda Rp5.000 per mobil).

Dia juga menjamin monorel bisa menambah pemasukan sekitar Rp4 triliun (30% dari Rp13 triliun) biaya kemacetan DKI Jakarta per tahunnya.

Jaminan keuntungan lainnya adalah dari sektor riil terutama sewa ruang stasiun, ritel dan iklan yang diestimasikan mencapai Rp45 miliar per tahun termasuk lapangan kerja baru akan terbuka bagi 10.000 orang selama masa konstruksi dan 4.000 selama masa operasi.

Menurut dia, potensi pengembangan industri juga akan terbantu dengan hadirnya monorel karena komponen suku cadang dan mesin-mesin monorel bisa akan mengandalkan produk dalam negeri seperti PT KAI, PT Inka, PT Dirgantara Indonesia.

Seperti yang disampaikan Komisaris Utama PT JM, Saiful Imam, PT JM merancang dua rute monorel yakni green line (jalur hijau) dan blue line (jalur biru). (m01)

sanhen
April 9th, 2005, 05:56 AM
Anyone can post a complete monorail map?
Including Phase II and III ?
I need it for a little project here ;)
Thanks!

Alvin
April 14th, 2005, 06:08 AM
Sutiyoso visits China, S. Korea
JAKARTA: Jakarta Governor is leaving for China and South Korea on Thursday to learn more about monorail systems there.

City spokesman Catur Laswanto said on Wednesday that representatives of PT Jakarta Monorail, which has been appointed to build and operate the country's first monorail, will also join the five-day tour.

The city administration gave the green light to switch from Japanese to Chinese or South Korean technology to cut costs. The Jakarta monorail is expected to begin operation in 2006. --JP

Alvin
April 21st, 2005, 04:04 PM
Sutiyoso Tertarik Teknologi Monorel Korea
Kamis, 21 April 2005 | 19:49 WIB

TEMPO Interaktif, Jakarta: Gubernur DKI Jakarta Sutiyoso merekomendasikan penggunaan teknologi Korea Selatan untuk proyek monorel di Jakarta. Menurutnya, teknologi ini dikelola perusahaan bernama Rotax dengan tenaga ahli langsung dari Jerman. “Secara pribadi akan akan memilih Korea,“ kata Sutiyoso, Kamis (21/4).

Saat ini, katanya, sudah ada lima alternatif teknologi monorel, yaitu Jepang, Cina, Kanada, Eropa, Korea Selatan. Keputusan pemilihan sepenuhnya oleh PT Jakarta Monorail sebagai konsorsium pengelola proyek.

Gubernur menjelaskan, pemilihan teknologi monorel harus diperhatikan tiga hal. Pertama, ada jaminan kemutakhiran teknologi. Artinya, teknologi tidak cepat ketinggalan zaman. Kedua, ada jaminan maksimalisasi keselamatan penumpang. Ketiga, teknologi mempunyai harga yang relatif murah.

Sutiyoso mengaku, kunjungan ke Seoul, Korea Selatan, bertujuan meminta bantuan para pejabat negara itu untuk mempermudah proses pencairan dana kepada Rotax. Teknologi ini dinilainya paling mutakhir karena menggunakan energi magnet.

Eworaswa-Tempo

Alvin
April 21st, 2005, 04:05 PM
summary:
Sutiyoso (jakarta governor) came back from Korea and China. He's interested to adopt the Korean technology, which uses magnet. But he's leaving the final decision to the consortium.

Alvin
April 23rd, 2005, 02:37 AM
WIll Jakarta monorail use Japanese , Korean or Chinese technology? we'll know in 2 weeks time ;)


Sutiyoso: Teknologi Monorel Korea Lebih Mutakhir

Jakarta, Kompas - Gubernur DKI Jakarta Sutiyoso menilai teknologi magnetik yang dimiliki negara Seoul, Korea, dalam mengembangkan transportasi kereta rel tunggal (monorel) jauh lebih mutakhir dibandingkan empat negara pembanding lainnya.

Selain itu, sarana transportasi yang dirancang arsitek terbaik tersebut menggunakan investasi yang jauh lebih murah dari negara lainnya. Selaku sponsorship, konsorsium PT Jakarta Monorel hanya diberikan waktu dua minggu untuk membuat keputusan memilih teknologi dan investasi yang tepat untuk diadopsi di Jakarta. Waktu itu juga sekaligus diberikan untuk melengkapi persoalan administrasi.

"Paling tidak, target saya tahun 2007 pembangunan green line harus sudah selesai. Makanya, PT Jakarta Monorel diberikan waktu tidak lebih dari dua minggu. Minggu depan, mereka akan bertemu di Singapura untuk membahas hal itu," kata Sutiyoso, Kamis (21/4), di Gedung Dewan Perwakilan Rakyat Daerah (DPRD) DKI Jakarta seusai menghadiri sidang paripurna mengenai Rancangan Peraturan Daerah (Raperda) tentang Retribusi Daerah.

Sutiyoso mengatakan, dirinya lupa berapa besar pembiayaan untuk membangun monorel di Korea. "Namun dari paparan yang ditampilkan, Korea-lah yang paling murah dengan teknologi lebih mutahir," jelas Sutiyoso.

Dalam kunjungannya ke Beijing (China) dan Seoul (Korea) selama lima hari untuk melakukan studi banding mengenai monorel, Sutiyoso mengatakan, hingga kini kita sudah memperoleh lima alternatif teknologi monorel. Selain Korea, empat negara pembanding lainnya adalah Inggris, Canada, Jepang, dan China.

"Sewaktu di Korea, saya puas dengan teknologi monorel yang mereka terapkan. Teknologinya paling mutahir. Powernya menggunakan magnit. Dua ban (roda) sisi kiri dan kanan mencengkram rel, sehingga kelihatan lebih menjamin keamanan dan indah. Berbeda dengan teknologi negara lain yang menggunakan banyak ban dengan posisi berdiri dan miring untuk mencengkram rel," ujar Sutiyoso.

Soal kapasitas, lanjut dia, semua yang diterapkan kelima negara hampir sama termasuk juga kecepatan maksimal rata-rata 60 sampai 70 km per jam dan paling tinggi 80 km per jam.

Kalau diberikan pilihan, Sutiyoso mengatakan, secara pribadi dirinya lebih cenderung memilih Korea. "Tapi itu bukan keputusan saya. Keputusan mana yang baik dan layak untuk diterapkan di Jakarta berada di tangan konsorsium. Merekalah yang bertanggung jawab untuk pembangunan monorel di Jakarta," kata Gubernur.

Ia memberikan kebebasan kepada PT JM untuk menentukan pilihannya. "Asalkan mereka bisa memberikan alasan yang tepat dan bisa diterima. Saya cuma memberikan tawaran. Ini investasi, merekakah yang nantinya bertanggung jawab," tambah Sutiyoso.

Kriteria monorel

Pemerintah Provinsi DKI Jakarta hanya memberikan kriteria, antara lain, berteknologi canggih, harga terjangkau, dan mendapat dukungan pemerintah setempat. "Kenapa harganya harus lebih murah? Karena nantinya akan berpengaruh pada harga tiket, supaya tidak memberatkan masyarakat," katanya.

Sutiyoso mencontohkan, kalau memilih Korea maka Pemerintah Korea juga harus mendukung. Dalam rangka menjalin kerjasama dengan pemerintah setempat itulah, tambah Sutiyoso, dirinya ke China dan Korea.

"Kepada pemerintah setempat, termasuk para menteri dan perdana menteri, saya menjelaskan bahwa pembangunan monorel di Jakarta merupakan suatu monumental. Ini adalah sejarah. Jika pembangunannya bagus, pasti banyak negara lain yang akan tertarik," ujarnya.

Ia mengatakan, kalau moda transportasi seperti monorel sudah ada ditambah dengan hadirnya koridor-koridor busway (bus jalur khusus), keruwetan lalu lintas dan polusi di Jakarta bisa sedikit teratasi.

Sementara itu, Direktur PT Jakarta Monorel Sukmawati Syukur mengatakan, sebelum mengambil keputusan, PT JM harus menunggu penawaran investor teknologi China maupun Korea.

"Selama berkunjung ke pabrik monorel kedua negara itu, kami memang menyaksikan dan memperoleh penjelasan atas kemampuan masing-masing monorel tersebut. Namun, secara administratif, pihak China dan Korea harus memperhitungkan dahulu secara detail," ujar Sukmawati.

Ketika bertemu dengan produsen monorel di China, PT JM langsung memberikan rencana jalur hijau (green line) dan jalur biru (blue line). Hal itu juga dilakukan terhadap produsen Korea. Karena itulah, tutur Sukmawati, kedua produsen itu harus memperhitungkan dahulu teknologi hingga penawaran harganya.

Sukmawati mengatakan, secara sederhana, teknologi monorel Korea menggunakan tenaga penggerak magnit. Sementara, teknologi China lebih mirip bikinan Hitachi, Jepang. Tenaga penggerak monorelnya menggunakan listrik. China memang memperoleh lisensi dari Jepang.

"Ya sekarang ini, kita tunggu saja. Penawaran China atau Korea yang lebih memungkinkan. Kalau tidak jauh berbeda perhitungan harga, termasuk jaminan-jaminan dan kemudahan pembayarannya, kita bisa kembali lagi menggunakan Hitachi, Jepang lho," ujar Sukmawati.

Dua minggu mendatang, tutur Sukmawati, kedua produsen itu akan mengajukan perhitungan-perhitungan administrasinya. Setelah dipresentasikan, PT JM akan memilih dan mengajukan Gubernur DKI Sutiyoso. (PIN/OSA)

sanhen
April 23rd, 2005, 02:51 AM
Magnetic elevation as in maglev? What I heard there're too much patents involved in maglev. We will just endup paying too much loyalties to companies.

Alvin
April 23rd, 2005, 04:33 AM
no, I don't think it is maglev....or is it?? Sutiyoso did mention that the Korean technology has experts from Germany involved ....could it be??? If so...cool!
But the company is called Rotax. I did a quick Google search on that...it seems like they have some sort of joint venture with Bombardier (Canadian).. but I don't know what sortof technology they employ for monorail. anyone got info?

ryanr
April 23rd, 2005, 05:16 AM
Actually its ROTEM. Its a Korean company...they were the contractors for Metro Manila Line 2 rolling stock.

I cant find the article in Jakarta Post's website...But in the newspaper their headline for the article is "Sutiyoso, Jakarta Monorail favor Rotem over Hitachi"

Alvin
April 23rd, 2005, 05:24 AM
Is it really magnetic technology that they're using for Manila?

ryanr
April 23rd, 2005, 05:55 AM
No its not maglev:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid162/p20eb94d392514c32913f2715cccfba9b/f4b31124.jpg

but ROTEM does have maglev technology:
www.rotem.co.kr

Alvin
April 23rd, 2005, 07:35 AM
hmm..jakarta monorail may look like this, if Rotem gets its way...
this is the RUTM (Rotem Urban Transit Maglev). Looks quite cutting edge to me :okay:

http://www.rotem.co.kr/eng/Business_Activities/RollingStock/maglev/rutm_p.gif

Alvin
April 23rd, 2005, 07:39 AM
Sutiyoso, Jakarta Monorail favor Rotem over Hitachi
Bambang Nurbianto, The Jakarta Post/Jakarta

Jakarta's monorail project is likely to use trains produced by South Korean firm Rotem after the city administration and PT Jakarta Monorail (JM) hinted that its technology was as good as that of Japan's Hitachi.

Governor Sutiyoso said on Thursday that monorail trains produced by Rotem were relatively cheaper than others, while its technology equaled that of Japan, France and Canada.

"It is up to PT Jakarta Monorail to make the decision. I will accept it as long as it is reasonable," he said.

Meanwhile, PT Jakarta Monorail director Sukmawaty Syukur said that Rotem train-maker would soon make an offer to the company.

Sutiyoso and a number of JM executives visited China and South Korea from April 15 to April 21 to observe the monorail technology used in the two countries.

JM was handpicked by the city administration to develop and build the country's first monorail worth US$650 million using Hitachi technology.

Transportation experts, however, have criticized the project as being too expensive, prompting JM to look for cheaper technology.

Sutiyoso said the city administration had considered Japanese, Chinese, South Korean, French, and Canada technology.

During a recent hearing with City Council Commission D for development affairs, Sukmawaty said her company had expected to use Japanese technology.

However, she admitted the price of the Japanese technology was too high and that her company was considering alternative technology.

Sutiyoso had told JM to decide within two weeks which technology to apply along the 27-kilometer of monorail lines. The monorail is expected to begin operation early 2007.

JM is constructing two monorail lines -- the green and blue.

The green line will pass by Taman Rasuna, Gran Melia Hotel, Gatot Subroto, Satria Mandala, city police headquarters, Sudirman Central Business District, Bung Karno sports complex, Palmerah, Pejompongan, Dukuh Atas Railway Station, Setia Budi Utara and Kuningan Sentral.

Meanwhile, the blue line will pass by Kampung Melayu, Tebet, Dr. Saharjo, Mentang Dalam, Casabanca Interchange, Mall Ambassador, Sudirman, Karet Interchange, Kebon Kacang, Tanah Abang, Cideng, Kyai Caringain, Tomang and Taman Anggrek Mall.

JM is supported by three local companies -- PT Adhi Karya, Global Profex Synergy and PT Radian Pilar Pasifik -- and three foreign companies -- Singapore Mass Rapid Transit (SMRT), Singapore Technology Electronics (ST-Electronics) and Hitachi Asia Ltd.

ryanr
April 23rd, 2005, 07:48 AM
Ah yes...thats the article. Where did you get it from? Its not in Jakarta Post's website.

Alvin
April 23rd, 2005, 07:53 AM
Ah yes...thats the article. Where did you get it from? Its not in Jakarta Post's website.
it is. check it again, they update late.

sanhen
April 23rd, 2005, 08:09 AM
I think Japan some monorails in Japan also using maglev.

Mahaputra
April 24th, 2005, 10:45 AM
that ROTEM monorail looks very sleek.. I like it..
modern.. cool
hopefully they'll decide soon and continue on with the project.. it's been delayed for a while now.. dammit

Alvin
April 25th, 2005, 10:27 AM
Metro

Sutiyoso Berharap PT INKA Ambil Bagian dalam Proyek Monorel
Senin, 25 April 2005 | 14:42 WIB

TEMPO Interaktif, Jakarta: Gubernur DKI Jakarta Sutiyoso mengharapkan keterlibatan PT Industri Kereta Api (INKA) proyek monorel. Badan Usaha Milik Negara dapat berperan dalam pembuatan gerbong kereta monorel yang tengah digagas pemerintah DKI.

Menurut Sutiyoso, keterlibatan INKA akan membangkitkan kembali perusahaan tersebut setelah lama tidak berproduksi. Ini, katanya, sekaligus membuka lapangan kerja baru. "Syaratnya, pembuatan gerbong harus yang berkualitas," ujar Sutiyoso, Senin (25/4).

Gubernunr mengaku telah bertemu dengan manajemen PT Jakarta Monorel sebagai konsorsium yang mengelola proyek transportasi modern itu. Pertemuan ini, kata dia, bagian dari rangkaian kunjunngannya ke Korea Selatan dan Cina.

Hasil pertemuan disepakati, pada Selasa (26/4) PT Jakarta Monorail akan bertemu dengan wakil Korea di Singapura. Setelah selesai, disusul petemuan dengan Cina di Jakarta. Pertemuan ini, menurut Sutiyoso, akan membahas tentang penawaran teknologi monorel secara detail dari segi teknis.

Soal teknologi yang akan dipakai, kemungkinan akan menggabungkan teknologi Korea dan Cina. Semua investor lokal sudah siap. Gubernur menyebut perusahaan milik pengusaha Robi Sumampau sebagai salah satu investor.

macgyver
April 25th, 2005, 12:03 PM
Metro

Sutiyoso Berharap PT INKA Ambil Bagian dalam Proyek Monorel
Senin, 25 April 2005 | 14:42 WIB

TEMPO Interaktif, Jakarta: Gubernur DKI Jakarta Sutiyoso mengharapkan keterlibatan PT Industri Kereta Api (INKA) proyek monorel. Badan Usaha Milik Negara dapat berperan dalam pembuatan gerbong kereta monorel yang tengah digagas pemerintah DKI.

Menurut Sutiyoso, keterlibatan INKA akan membangkitkan kembali perusahaan tersebut setelah lama tidak berproduksi. Ini, katanya, sekaligus membuka lapangan kerja baru. "Syaratnya, pembuatan gerbong harus yang berkualitas," ujar Sutiyoso, Senin (25/4).

Gubernunr mengaku telah bertemu dengan manajemen PT Jakarta Monorel sebagai konsorsium yang mengelola proyek transportasi modern itu. Pertemuan ini, kata dia, bagian dari rangkaian kunjunngannya ke Korea Selatan dan Cina.

Hasil pertemuan disepakati, pada Selasa (26/4) PT Jakarta Monorail akan bertemu dengan wakil Korea di Singapura. Setelah selesai, disusul petemuan dengan Cina di Jakarta. Pertemuan ini, menurut Sutiyoso, akan membahas tentang penawaran teknologi monorel secara detail dari segi teknis.

Soal teknologi yang akan dipakai, kemungkinan akan menggabungkan teknologi Korea dan Cina. Semua investor lokal sudah siap. Gubernur menyebut perusahaan milik pengusaha Robi Sumampau sebagai salah satu investor.

Woudl it be end up like Malaysia ?
Make their own Monorel ? ....
If that so ... I am 200 % supporting this ... :cheers:

JAG2
April 25th, 2005, 04:24 PM
Could anyone say briefly what the newspaper says??

tata
April 25th, 2005, 05:58 PM
Could anyone say briefly what the newspaper says??



- Governor Sutiyoso hopes INKA can participate in Monorail project by producing coaches

- This will give new work opportunity and help INKA's business

- Governor met lately with PT JM related to his trip to Korea and China and this will be followed by meeting between PT JM and representative of Korea in Singapore next tuesday (26/4) and another meeting in Jakarta with China.

- With support of local investors (one of them Robi Sumampau) JM may use mixed technology from both Korea and China

sanhen
April 25th, 2005, 07:13 PM
I am very sure INKA has the capability to support Jakarta Monorail project.

JAG2
April 25th, 2005, 07:30 PM
Thanks Tata. hopefully this time they ll speed up finally with this project and make sure that by the end of 2006 we all can take the monorail .

Alvin
April 26th, 2005, 01:23 AM
Thanks Tata. hopefully this time they ll speed up finally with this project and make sure that by the end of 2006 we all can take the monorail .
On this question, Sutiyoso suspiciously ommitted the Blue Line when he said that he aims to finish Green line in 2007. Has the Blue Line been delayed??

Alvin
April 26th, 2005, 05:18 AM
City, Jakarta Monorail closer to deal with Korean Maglev
Damar Harsanto, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

The Jakarta administration and consortium PT Jakarta Monorail are moving closer to adopting magnetically elevated vehicles (Maglev) developed by South Korea's rolling stock and train maker Rotem Corporation, which claims to have more advanced technology than the conventional monorail, and promises lower costs and better safety standards.

"It (the Korean Maglev) is my personal preference....and PT Jakarta Monorail agrees with my assessment," Governor Sutiyoso said at City Hall on Monday.

Recalling his direct observation of the Rotem Urban Transit Maglev last week, Sutiyoso said that he discovered that the technology applied in Maglev was more advanced than the outdated wheels-on-rails monorail technology, which he deemed "too costly and complicated to maintain."

"I have directly observed that the (Maglev) technology is relatively simpler than the conventional monorail and promises higher safety standards" he asserted.

No details were immediately available on how much cheaper the Maglev technology would be compared to Japan's Hitachi.

PT Jakarta Monorail (JM) has been handpicked to build and operate the capital's US$650 million monorail project expected to begin operation by the end of 2006.

Rotem's official website has made a comparison between Maglev technology and the conventional monorail, indicating that Maglev's operational costs could be categorized as "low level" as compared to monorail's "medium level," while the construction cost of both technologies is the same.

Rotem also says that Maglev trains could travel at a maximum speed of 100 kilometers per hour and an average speed of 40 km per hour, as compared to monorail's maximum speed of only 70 km per hour and an average speed of 35 km per hour.

"There is no possibility of derailment or puncture in the Maglev system since it uses a bogie structure that wraps around the guideway," it says, ensuring that Maglev is much safer than the conventional monorail.

Rotem, formerly Korea Rolling Stock Corp, was formed through the merger of rollingstock units of three South Korean conglomerates in 1999 -- Hundai, Daewoo and Hanjin Group.

Meanwhile, JM's president director Ruslan Diwirjo said that JM and the administration would meet with Rotem in Singapore on Tuesday (today) to seek details of the offer made by Rotem, including the project cost.

"We have yet to reach any final decision over what technology we will choose," Ruslan said.

Aside from Rotem, Ruslan said, a major company from the People's Republic of China had also offered its monorail technology.

"But, I think we will find it difficult to comply with the company's request to participate in the development of the monorail project since we already have developer Adhi Karya for the project," he told The Jakarta Post.

The city administration expects JM to decide on the technology it will adopt within two weeks.

Because of protracted problems shrouding the financing and development of the 27-kilometer monorail, JM, which is supported by local and foreign companies, will find it difficult to begin operation by the end of 2006.

JM said that the monorail was expected to begin operation early in 2007.

sanhen
April 26th, 2005, 05:28 AM
Huh??
I thought maglev IS MORE expensive than conventional rail and wheel.
Remember the shanghai Maglev?

Alvin
April 26th, 2005, 05:38 AM
Huh??
I thought maglev IS MORE expensive than conventional rail and wheel.
Remember the shanghai Maglev?
well , we'll just have to see what the Koreans offer. ...

Yamauchi
April 26th, 2005, 06:06 AM
Shanghai Maglev was not built economically, and I don't think these Korean trains will have much in common with their German counterparts (which Shanghai uses). Obviously, they wouldn't be choosing this path if it was going to cost more. That's why they moved away from Hitachi in the first place.

ryanr
April 26th, 2005, 06:16 AM
And i think the Shanghai Maglev is different to this Maglev. Rotem's maglev is a monorail maglev while Shanghai's is a highspeed maglev, if im not mistaken.

Alvin
April 26th, 2005, 06:18 AM
agreed, the technologies must be different.

sanhen
April 26th, 2005, 06:47 AM
Yea, hopefully they can give a good price, including reasonable maintenance. One of the reason maglev expensive is because it is not widely used, making maintenance expensive. Have too many patents, thus high loyalties. Not to mention the whole track is powered (anyone can confirm this?), compared with conventional track that is not even have any power, except in junction, of course.

But.. hey.. its MAGLEV! Its the highest possible technology.

Btw.. do you guys know that the first monorail in Indonesia (still running in Taman mini) is not using conventional wheel? It runs using Air pressure! So they call it Aeromovel. Based on Brazillian technology, perfected by Institute Technology Bandung.

sanhen
April 26th, 2005, 06:56 AM
http://www.rotem.co.kr/eng/Business_Activities/RollingStock/maglev/mag_adv.gif
http://www.rotem.co.kr/eng/Business_Activities/RollingStock/maglev/rotems.gif
Providing the lowest initial construction cost
Providing the lowest operation and maintenance cost
Environmentally - friendly system for the existing city map
Safe and reliable system
Higher level of comfort for passenger, with low noise and vibration

http://www.rotem.co.kr/eng/Business_Activities/RollingStock/maglev/lrv.gif
http://www.rotem.co.kr/eng/Business_Activities/RollingStock/maglev/lrv1.gif

http://www.rotem.co.kr/eng/Business_Activities/RollingStock/maglev/rutm_1.gif
http://www.rotem.co.kr/eng/Business_Activities/RollingStock/maglev/rutm1_ic.gif

http://www.rotem.co.kr/eng/Business_Activities/RollingStock/maglev/table.gif

Item Maglev Monorail Steel Wheel Rubber Tire
Max.Speed 100km/h 70km/h 70km/h 60km/h
Avg.Speed 40km/h 35km/h 35km/h 35km/h
Max.Gate 8% 6% 3% 7%
Min. Curvature 40m 80m 60m 40m
Noise 65dB(A) 75db(A) 72db(A) 75db(A)
Ride Comfort Less than 0.02g Less than 0.01g Less than 0.01g Less than 0.01g

Cost
Const. Low Low High Very High
Operation Low Medium Very High High
Total Low Medium High High


http://www.rotem.co.kr/eng/Business_Activities/RollingStock/maglev/comparison2.gif

Alvin
April 26th, 2005, 07:00 AM
to be honest, it looks quite good. even better than HItachi (judging solely from exterior & technology) :D
Anyway, I just hope they make a quick decision, be it Hitachi, or this one. I am yet to be convinced by Chinese technology...

sanhen
April 26th, 2005, 07:01 AM
Woops.. third post multiple post from me.
Hope you guys dont mind..


http://www.rotem.co.kr/eng/Business_Activities/RollingStock/maglev/maglev_title1.gif
http://www.rotem.co.kr/eng/Business_Activities/RollingStock/maglev/rutm_p1.gif

Rotem has succeeded in developing the Magnetically Levitated Vehicles(Maglev). Rotem¡¯s Maglev is the ideal mass transport system of the future. It is only fast but also safe and comfortable as glides above the rail without contact. Moreover, the Maglev is desirable in respect of environmental protection as it is nearly noiseless, vibration free and no air pollution.

The Maglev (DMV-92, HML-03, UTM-01) developed by Rotem is based on the attractive power of the electro-magnets installed at the bottom of the vehicle where the ferro-rails is attached to the guideway. The gap sensor and levitation controller ensure that the vehicle always remains at a uniform distance of 12mm(UTM-01:11mm) above the guideway so that it runs without contact the rails. Linear induction motor serves the vehicle as its propulsion system.

http://www.rotem.co.kr/eng/Business_Activities/RollingStock/maglev/spec.gif

Train Formation : 2 vehicles (Mc1 - Mc2)

Vehicle dimensions
Length : 13.5 m (Train Length : 27.5 m)
Width : 2.85 m Height : 3.50 m (above the rail

Vehicle Weight
Tare : 22 tons
Full : 30 tons (6 presons/§³)

Passenger capacity
Normal : seat - 33, standing -67
Total -100 persons / vehicle (4 persons/§³)
Full : seat -33, standing -102
Total -135 persons / vehicle (6 persons/§³)

Power Supply
Voltage : 1,500 VDC

Train performance
Max. design speed : 100 km/h
Max. operating speed : 80 km/h ---------------------------->
Max. acceleration : 1.0 §¾ (3.6 km/h/s)
Max. deceleration : 1.0 §¾ (3.6 km/h/s) in service,
1.25 §¾ (4.5 km/h/s) in emergency
Noise Level : Max. 65 dB(A)
Viration limit (Vertical & Lateral) : 0.02g
Max. gradient : 8%
Min curve radius : 60 mR (Lateral)
Propulsion system Linear Induction Motor controlled by VVVF inverter
Levitation system Electro Magnetic Suspension Type, 10mm Air-gap
Brake system Blending of Regenerative & Pneumatic Brake

ncon
April 26th, 2005, 08:46 AM
heY some article & pics about the monorail (taken from TEMPO 11 JULY 2004)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/encon/Untitled-TrueColor-065_tmp.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/encon/Untitled-TrueColor-05_tmp.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/encon/gado.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/encon/jalur.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/encon/Untitled-TrueColor-078_tmp.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/encon/Untitled-TrueColor-05_tmp.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/encon/Untitled-TrueColor-065_tmp.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/encon/gado.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/encon/jalur.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/encon/Untitled-TrueColor-078_tmp.jpg
ENJOY!

sanhen
April 26th, 2005, 01:43 PM
Transjakarta Monorail!

http://img246.echo.cx/img246/1157/dscf51291oh.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

Before anyone get to excited. Its a fake. I photoshopped the image.

ryanr
April 26th, 2005, 02:06 PM
Wow...awesome pictures and info! Maglev monorail is definitely better than the conventional monorail.

Mahaputra
April 26th, 2005, 04:46 PM
dammit... I was already excited when I saw the picture...
looks soo goood

Medan01
April 27th, 2005, 03:09 PM
Shanghai Maglev

http://img233.echo.cx/img233/8429/dscf00152sg.th.jpg (http://img233.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscf00152sg.jpg)

inside Shanghai Maglev

http://img22.echo.cx/img22/3134/dscf00205ll.th.jpg (http://img22.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscf00205ll.jpg)

look at the speed - it is at 401 km/h - the highest possible speed is 411 km/h - it is the fastest train in the world but not the speed we want for Jakarta Monorail

http://img235.echo.cx/img235/424/dscf00250vs.th.jpg (http://img235.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscf00250vs.jpg)

Alvin
April 27th, 2005, 03:21 PM
yep. Though the two will be totally different systems. The Shanghai Maglev is not an intra-urban system. It serves to connect Shanghai to the airport...but heck, it doesn't even go to the center of the city...and a roundtrip costs RMB80 (about Rp80,000) and a single costs RMB50

David-80
April 28th, 2005, 04:34 PM
I actually like that shanghai maglev and i think its faster enough.

I might think if that maglev is suitable for CGK-Jakarta city transnetwork. If 50,000 Rupiah is a oneway ticket from the airport to the city then its cheaper to use the maglev rather than airport taxi, which can cost you 60-70,000 rupiah only to slipi.

But again, how far is from shanghai pudong airport to the city? is it the same with Jakarta to CGK?

I might propose this maglev to AP2. lol finger crossed.

cheers

Sielo
April 28th, 2005, 05:23 PM
David,
Are you working for AP2?

David-80
April 28th, 2005, 06:09 PM
My company that i worked is contracted by them.

cheers

sanhen
April 29th, 2005, 09:59 AM
Sutiyoso Desak INKA Ikut Proyek Monorel
Reporter: Niken Widya Yunita
http://jkt1.detiknews.com/indexfr.php?url=http://jkt1.detiknews.com/index.php/detik.read/tahun/2005/bulan/04/tgl/29/time/144832/idnews/351134/idkanal/10

detikcom - Jakarta, Keinginan Gubernur DKI Jakarta Sutiyoso melibatkan PT INKA dalam pembangunan monorel di Jakarta tampaknya tak tertahankan lagi. Tanpa malu-malu dia meminta Wapres merayu INKA.

"Saya laporan kepada beliau (Wapres Yusuf Kalla) agar INKA disuruh datang ke sini," ungkap Sutiyoso usai bertemu Wapres Yusuf Kalla.

Pertemuan dilakukan di Istana Wapres, Jl. Medan Merdeka Selatan, Jakarta, Jumat, (29/4/2005). Peluang INKA (Industri Nasional Kereta Api) dilibatkan dalam pembangunan gerbong monorel, katanya, cukup besar. "Peluang yang saya rintis atau buka sudah ada," katanya.

Wapres sendiri diakuinya menyambut positif usulan tersebut. Karena itu, Sutiyoso meminta INKA merespon hal ini. Dia juga mengundang INKA untuk bertemu dengannya.

Selain INKA, Sutiyoso juga mendesak konsorsium pembangunan monorel Jakarta yang terdiri dari lima negara, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapura, Hong Kong dan India untuk segera memutuskan, teknologi mana yang akan digunakan.

Saat ini ada lima alternatif teknologi monorel yang bisa diadaptasi dan telah ditawarkan kepada Pemprov DKI Jakarta. Teknologi tersebut berasal dari Cina, Jepang, Korsel, Uni Eropa dan AS.

Terkait teknologi tersebut, baru-baru ini Sutiyoso telah berkunjung ke Jepang dan Korsel untuk melihat langsung teknologi monorel dikedua negara itu. Setelah membandingkan teknologi di dua negara tersebut, Sutiyoso cenderung memilik Korsel karena teknologinya dinilai lebih maju, tingkat keamanannya tinggi dan harga terjangkau.

Mengenai harga yang diajukan Korsel, Sutiyoso menyatakan, belum diperoleh angka yang pasti. "Kita minta harganya lebih rendah dari yang dulu diajukan oleh Hitachi yakni sebesar 670 juta dolar AS," katanya.

Proyek monorel di Jakarta diharapkan bisa dibangun pada tahun 2006 dan selesai tahun 2007. Dengan alat transportasi ini diharapkan pada tahun 2010 Jakarta bebas macet dan polusi udara.(umi)

David-80
April 29th, 2005, 11:15 AM
Anyone agree if Sutiyoso should be a president in the future? I agree!

cheers

sanhen
April 29th, 2005, 11:46 AM
Yes.
He actually DARE to do something.
I will vote for him too.

macgyver
April 29th, 2005, 11:50 AM
Anyone agree if Sutiyoso should be a president in the future? I agree!

cheers

Well ... very very not agree .....
It's time for him make a good thing ......It's his last term ..... he he he

Alvin
April 29th, 2005, 12:34 PM
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Proyek monorel di Jakarta diharapkan bisa dibangun pada tahun 2006 dan selesai tahun 2007. Dengan alat transportasi ini diharapkan pada tahun 2010 Jakarta bebas macet dan polusi udara.(umi)

What??? Will it only resume construction next year????

Alvin
April 29th, 2005, 12:36 PM
Sutiyoso for president??? where's our MRT after all these damn years? and what's happening with the monorail?? Way too many Deal and no deals ('maju mundur'). and Busway Corridors 2 and 3 have been delayed for 4 months.,,, Shows u what kind of a manager he is...................
not happy at all.

David-80
April 29th, 2005, 01:17 PM
Ok i refrain myself to vote him haha...Alvin just make me realised if the only project sutiyoso achieved is that "patung" costing million if not billion rupiah? lol or the busway project....

But do you think the monorail project is delayed because of the unconsistency within the PT JM? I agree hes pretty much slow but he has vision at least?

cheers

Alvin
April 29th, 2005, 01:30 PM
I think he wants to be known as the Jakarta governor that changed our transportation system forever...he wants to make it his legacy. He's also very proud of the fact that he's the governor under 5 presidents - Suharto, Habibie, Megawati, Gus Dur and now SBY.
But this is just too big a task for him, as evidenced by all those delayed projects..not to mention the Banjir Kanal Timur...so essential to address flooding problem but till now...no solution!!
I think people like Yusuf Kalla would make a better governor. We need a hands-on entrepreneur, not someone from the army.

Alvin
April 29th, 2005, 01:32 PM
My impression of Sutiyoso is that he is NATO - no action talk only. Keeps talking about the Macro transporation system..MRT ("to start construction next year"), monorail ("will be ready in 2006"), 15 busway lines "by 2007"..lol
we're close to mid 2005 now and the only thing we see is *1* damn busway corridor.

David-80
April 29th, 2005, 01:52 PM
Yeah I agree with your comment about Yusuf Kalla, hes actually asking and monitoring the project of Makassar airport extension, so it can finish before the due date. Maybe we need a president who has vision like sutiyoso but action like Yusuf Kalla.

cheers

Medan01
April 29th, 2005, 02:12 PM
I actually like that shanghai maglev and i think its faster enough.

But again, how far is from shanghai pudong airport to the city? is it the same with Jakarta to CGK?

I might propose this maglev to AP2. lol finger crossed.

cheers

Shanghai Maglev starts from the Luo Yang Station in Pudong to Pudong Airport - the total distance is around 35 km - the travel time is nearly 5 minutes. This train takes about 2 minutes time to speed up to the max. speed. Stay at max. speed for about 1 minute and then slow down again for the arrival.

David-80
April 29th, 2005, 02:20 PM
35km? so its like from CGK to Plaza semanggi?

Anyone has estimation of how far is from CGK to Manggarai? if we need to build a special rail system than i doubt AP2 will agree to get this maglev technology. AFAIK, The candidate is KLIA train system.

cheers

Alvin
April 29th, 2005, 02:58 PM
Maglev technology is just too expensive. Even in Shanghai it is losing money...and considering how much of an economic hub shanghai is to Jakarta, I can't see Maglev being commercially viable in Jakarta.

Anyway, read article from Kompas.com about Monorail...which confirmed my worst fears...the monorail has been delayed to 2010!! But I think Sutiyoso is referring to the blue line...he did mention previously the green line is still in schedule for 2007.

http://www.kompas.com/metro/news/0504/29/144618.htm

David-80
April 29th, 2005, 04:02 PM
Yeah I agree Alvin, its just too expensive, i tried to calculate and so far its a total blowout.

cheers

Alvin
April 30th, 2005, 03:16 AM
Sutiyoso Minta PT Inka Ikut Bangun Gerbong Monorel


Jakarta, Kompas - Gubernur Sutiyoso melalui Wakil Presiden Jusuf Kalla meminta agar salah satu badan usaha milik negara yang bergerak di bidang industri perkeretaapian atau PT Industri Kereta Api (Inka) dapat turut serta dalam memproduksi gerbong kereta rel tunggal (monorel). Tentu investasi yang dikeluarkan untuk membangun akan lebih murah dibandingkan dengan impor dari luar negeri.

"Saya harapkan Inka proaktif dan menjelaskan kemampuannya membangun gerbong tersebut. Asalkan memenuhi standar, gerbong itu bisa dibuat di pabriknya di Madiun, Jawa Timur. Karena, kalau dibuat di Madiun, selain harganya lebih murah, juga bisa memberi efek bagi kegiatan industri dalam negeri," ujar Sutiyoso dalam keterangan pers seusai diterima Jusuf Kalla di Istana Wapres, Jakarta, Jumat (29/4).

Menurut Sutiyoso, selain melaporkan kunjungannya ke China dan Korea Selatan untuk melihat lebih dekat teknologi monorel di kedua negara itu dan program-programnya, pihaknya juga menyampaikan keinginannya menggandeng Inka. "Wapres menyatakan sangat positif dengan keinginan kami itu," kata Sutiyoso, mengutip tanggapan Wapres.

Secara terpisah, Direktur Utama Inka Roos Diatmoko mengaku tertantang mengembangkan monorel di Jakarta. Bahkan, ia telah lama mendalami teknologi itu. Oleh karena itu, Inka telah menjalin komunikasi dan dialog dengan manajemen PT Jakarta Monorel guna mendapat kepercayaan dalam memproduksi monorel. "Selama ini kami menjalin kontak dengan Pak Ruslan Diwiryo, Dirut PT Jakarta Monorel," katanya.

Asal tetap penuhi standar

Sutiyoso menyatakan keinginannya menggandeng PT Inka setelah dia selesai membandingkan kemampuan teknologi monorel di berbagai negara, antara lain Singapura, China, Korea, Jepang, dan Eropa.

"Saya memang sempat bertanya, bisakah gerbong monorel itu dibangun di Indonesia? Asalkan, tetap memenuhi standar. Paling tidak dibangun di PT Inka di Madiun," ujar Sutiyoso.

Ia mengatakan, pihaknya sebelumnya menolak tawaran harga dari salah satu pabrik di Jepang. "Saya maunya jauh lebih murah lagi. Tetapi, mereka tidak mau turun. Kelihatannya mereka sedang mempertimbangkan lagi tawaran harganya," ujar Sutiyoso menambahkan.

Sementara itu, Direktur Operasional PT Jakarta Monorel Sukmawaty Syukur mengatakan, saat ini PT Jakarta Monorel sedang mengkaji data dan informasi teknologi monorel, termasuk pembiayaan dari hasil studi banding ke Korea dan China.

"Tim teknis akan mempelajari secara serius dan teliti mengenai proposal teknis dan finansialnya. Kami tetap mengharapkan adanya semacam supplier credit dengan bunga murah," ujar Sukmawaty.

Ia menyebutkan, hasil studi itu akan dibandingkan dulu dengan tawaran Jepang dan Kanada serta usulan produsen dalam negeri yang dimotori PT Bukaka Group. (HAR/JAN/OSA)

Alvin
April 30th, 2005, 03:22 AM
Good news and bad news..
- Companies from Indonesia, SIngapore, Malaysia , Hongkong and India forms a consortium to build Monorail in Jakarta, and have given it the go ahead.
- catch is....the whole project won't be completed until 2010. :ohno:

5 Negara bentuk konsorsium lanjutkan monorel

JAKARTA (Bisnis): Lima negara yang tergabung dalam satu konsorsium sepakat untuk berinvestasi guna melanjutkan proyek monorel yang tersendat-sendat. Proyek monorel sangat layak dijalankan di Jakarta, baik segi teknis maupun bisnis.
"Tidak ada pilihan lain kecuali kembali melanjutkan proyek monorel yang tersendat-sendat ini. Jika tidak ada hambatan, proyek monorel ini akan selesai dalam waktu lima tahun ke depan," ujar Gubernur Sutiyoso seusai bertemu Wakil Presiden Jusuf Kalla, kemarin.

Lima negara yang tergabung dalam konsorsium tersebut Indonesia, Singapura, Malaysia, Hong Kong, dan India. Konsorsium ini menilai, Jakarta layak dibangun monorel sebagai salah satu moda transportasi umum yang utama mengingat penduduknya banyak dengan dinamika yang tinggi.

"Proyek ini ibarat percontohan nasional. Jika ini berhasil maka kota-kota lainnya akan meniru," tuturnya.

Sutiyoso memaparkan dalam pembangunan monorel di Jakarta tersebut, dirinya telah memberikan patokan bahwa proyek tersebut harus menggunakan teknologi yang paling mutakhir dengan harga terjangkau, dan diupayakan tidak ada subsidi dari pemerintah daerah.

Setelah melakukan studi banding ke China dan Korea Selatan, Sutiyoso tertarik dengan monorel yang dikembangkan di Seoul. Di sana, monorel menggunakan teknologi tenaga magnet. Konstruksinya sangat sederhana sehingga ongkos pembangunannya bisa lebih murah.

Monorel Jakarta nantinya akan terdiri dari dua jalur yaitu green line yang merupakan jalur berputar sepanjang 14,8 kilometer dari gedung BEJ-Stadion Gelora Bung Karno-Plaza Senayan-TVRI-Taman Ria Senayan-Gedung MPR/DPR-Pejompongan-Karet-Sudirman-Setia Budi Utara-Kuningan Sentral-Taman Rasuna-Casablanca-Gran Melia-Satria Mandala dengan 14 buah stasiun.

Selain itu terdapat pula blue line yang merupakan jalur memanjang sepanjang 12,2 kilometer dari Kampung Melayu-Tebet-Dr Sahardjo-Menteng Dalam-Casablanca-Ambasador-Dharmala Sakti-Menara Batavia-Karet-Kebon Kacang-Tanah Abang-Cideng-Roxy dengan 15 buah stasiun.

Sementara itu, PT Jakarta Monorail hingga saat ini masih mengkaji data dan informasi tentang teknologi monorail dan pembiayaannya dari hasil studi banding ke Korsel dan China baru-baru ini.

"Tim teknis PT JM akan mempelajari secara serius mengenai proposal teknis dan finansial yang dihasilkan dari studi banding ke Korsel dan China," ujar Direktur Operasi PT Jakarta Monorail Sukmawati Syukur kemarin.

Menurut dia, pihaknya akan melakukan kajian dan perbandingan mengenai tek-nologi, harga dan bantuan finansial yang diajukan. (k20/jao)

macgyver
April 30th, 2005, 03:24 AM
[B]
Ia menyebutkan, hasil studi itu akan dibandingkan dulu dengan tawaran Jepang dan Kanada serta usulan produsen dalam negeri yang dimotori PT Bukaka Group. (HAR/JAN/OSA)

If only .... Korean Monorel ... make up join proposal with Bukaka ... :-)

Bukaka is successful in building Aerobridge for Airport - Called " Garbarata"

Alvin
April 30th, 2005, 03:34 AM
what's aerobridge??

macgyver
April 30th, 2005, 03:48 AM
what's aerobridge??

Itu vin ... jembatan yang buat ke Pesawat ....

http://www.angkasa-online.com/galeri/galeri2/merpati03.jpg

- very very old article -

BUKAKA EKSPOR GARBARATA

Lima unit garbarata atau 'belalai gajah' resmi dilepas Menteri Perhubungan Giri Soeseno untuk diberangkatkan ke Hong Kong. Ke-5 garbarata itu merupakan unit ke-300 garbarata buatan PT Bukaka Teknik Utama (BTU) yang akan digunakan di Bandara Internasional Check Lap Kok, Hong Kong. Sejak mulai dioperasikan, 1 Juli 1998, Check Lap Kok telah menggunakan 76 garbarata Bukaka, dan tahun ini menambah 20 unit untuk pengembangan bandara. Menurut Dirut PT BTU Achmad Kalla, sampai saat ini Bukaka selesai memasang 259 garbarata yang dioperasikan oleh sembilan bandara di Jepang, lima di Thailand, dua di Malaysia dan tiga di Indonesia serta di Singapura, Hong Kong dan Wuhan Tianhe Cina. Tahun ini Bukaka memproduksi 49 garbarata untuk Check Lap Kok, Imam Khomaeni (Iran) 14 unit, Mandalay (Myanmar) sembilan unit dan Ngurah Rai (Denpasar) enam unit. Prospek pemasaran garbarata bernama "Rampway" ini cukup baik, terutama di luar negeri. Rampway hasil rancang bangun dan rekayasa 200 tenaga ahli dalam negeri ini sudah mendapat sertifikasi ISO 9001 sejak 1992 dan yang pertama di dunia. Desain terakhir Rampway Bukaka disebut sebagai Glass Bridge yang dindingnya terbuat dari kaca. Saat ini rampway kaca itu telah beroperasi 46 unit di Bandara Internasional Sepang dan satu di Bandara Subang, keduanya di Malaysia, serta masing-masing datu unit di Nagasaki, Tsushima dan Kumamoto, ketiganya bandara di Jepang. "Glass Bridge ini sekarang menjadi trend di bandara di dunia," ujar Rahmat Ismail, vice president Bukaka. Selain garbarata, Bukaka juga memproduksi baggage handling system, runway sweeper, line marker, vacuum sewer, dan mobil pemadam kebakaran. (nie)

sanhen
April 30th, 2005, 05:05 AM
5 Negara Tawarkan Teknologi Proyek Monorel
http://jkt1.detiknews.com/index.php/detik.read/tahun/2005/bulan/04/tgl/29/time/234442/idnews/352644/idkanal/10
Reporter: Iqbal Fadil

detikcom - Jakarta, Sampai hari ini PT Jakarta Monorail masih mengkaji data dan informasi tentang teknologi monorel serta pembiayaannya yang ditawarkan beberapa negara. Yang dibandingkan meliputi teknologi, harga, dan bantuan finansial yang diajukan. Studi banding ke Cina dan Korea telah dilakukan.

"Itu semua akan dibandingkan dengan penawaran yang diberikan oleh Jepang dan Kanada serta usulan dari konsorsium produsen dalam negeri yang dimotori oleh PT.Bukaka Group," ujar Sukmawaty Syukur, Direktur Operasional PT Jakarta Monorail, dalam rilis yang diterima detikcom, Jumat (29/4/2005).

Dalam studi banding ke Korea, ditandatangani Rotem perusahaan milik Hyundai Group. Perusahaan tersebut telah mengembangkan teknologi kereta ringan untuk
transportasi kota dengan menggunakan sistem Magnetically Levitated Vehicle (urban Maglev).

Sedangkan dalam studi banding yang dilakukan ke Cina, dilakukan kunjungan ke CITIC (China International Trust Investment Company) dan anak perusahaannya, CRC Co. Ltd. yang merupakan produsen monorel di Cina.

Seluruh penawaran yang masuk mempunyai keunggulan masing-masing dan kesempatan yang sama untuk dipilih. Hal ini dinyatakan juga oleh Gubernur DKI, Sutiyoso, dalam rapat teknis tanggal 25 April yang lalu.

"Bapak Gubernur menyerahkan sepenuhnya kepada kami untuk memilih secara cermat terutama menyangkut kualitas, harga, dan skema finansial yang ditawarkan. Yang paling penting juga, kesiapan memenuhi jadwal 'delivery time' monorel yang cukup ketat," urai Sukmawaty.

Proyek monorel merupakan proyek kerjasama antara PT. Jakarta Monorail dan Pemprov DKI dengan sistem BOT (Built Operating Transfer). Kerjasama direncanakan selama 30 tahun dengan opsi perpanjangan 10 tahun, kemudian penyerahan monorel dan infrastrukturnya setelah masa penyelenggaran berakhir.

Menurut perhitungan sementara, proyek ini akan menelan dana sebesar US$ 670 juta yang direncanakan terdiri dari modal (equity) dari pihak investor, PT. Jakarta Monorail, sebesar US$ 200 juta dan sisanya berupa pinjaman sebesar US$ 470 juta.

Proyek monorel merupakan bagian dari pola transportasi makro Jakarta, selain busway, transportasi air dan heavy rail (subway).(ast)

rhz
May 1st, 2005, 10:27 AM
Why can they start a project without having to know which type of technology/train to use?? So Weird!

macgyver
May 1st, 2005, 12:15 PM
Why can they start a project without having to know which type of technology/train to use?? So Weird!

Well ....It's clear that it only a matter of Money .... :)

Kurang kali bagi-bagi duit nya ....... ( I hope I am wrong )

Biasa lah proyek di Indonesia - Typical Project in Indonesia :)

ryanr
May 4th, 2005, 11:04 AM
posted in the main forums. Rotem's maglev monorail rolling stock
http://www.rotem.co.kr/eng/Business_Activities/RollingStock/maglev/mgv.gif

JAG2
May 4th, 2005, 11:10 AM
correct me if I m wrong is it not that they have to decide now ( its almost 2 weeks ago that the JKT governor returned back ) which system they re going to use ?? Have they decided yet ??

Alvin
May 6th, 2005, 07:25 AM
Jakarta Monorail struggles to reach deal before deadline
Bambang Nurbianto, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

Almost a year after PT Jakarta Monorail (JM) signed a concession agreement with the city administration, the company is still struggling to close a deal with potential financiers.

JM Director Sukmawaty Sjukur said on Wednesday she could not mention the target date for the financial closing because JM was still waiting for official offers from monorail car producers from China and South Korea.

Sukmawaty said that JM had proposed an extension of its agreement with the administration because it was unlikely to complete the financial closing by the end of this month.

"We are trying to complete the financial closing as soon as possible, but we are also proposing an extension of our agreement with the administration," she told The Jakarta Post.

The agreement between the administration and JM was signed on May 31, 2004.

Under the agreement, signed by Governor Sutiyoso and JM president director Ruslan Diwiryo, the company is required to complete a financial closing within a year, which could be extended for six months. Beyond that, the two parties may have to sign another agreement.

The process could be lengthy as JM is still looking at suppliers of monorail trains that can give financial support.

According to Sukmawaty, there are three choices -- South Korea's Rotem company, China's Citik, and Japan's Hitachi.

She said Rotem and Citik were expected to submit their official offers to JM before the agreement with the administration expires on May 31.

Sukmawaty added that Japan's Hitachi also plans to submit its revised offer to JM and has expressed its plan to lower the price. She said that initially Hitachi submitted a proposal to supply monorail cars at a total cost of US$400 million.

JM considered the offer too high, particularly after failing to gain financial support from the Japanese government.

Sutiyoso and executives of the company visited China and South Korea recently to seek alternative monorail train suppliers.

Sukmawati said South Korea's Rotem and China's Citik expressed interest in supplying monorail trains at lower prices. "But we still don't know the exact figure of their respective offers," he added.

Chairman of City Council Commission D for development affairs Sayogo Hendrosubroto warned the administration to be careful in negotiating with JM, particularly regarding its demand for an annual subsidy of $20 million and demand for equity with the administration.

"We must be careful in negotiating with the developer. Otherwise, we would face a complicated financial dispute because the feasibility study did not consider many things, including guarantee on the number of users of the two monorail lines to be constructed," he added.

Sutiyoso said the administration may extend its agreement with JM, in the hope that the firm could find cheaper monorail technology so that the city administration would not have to give an annual subsidy to the company.

"If the total cost of the project is less than $500 million, the administration will not give a subsidy," he told The Jakarta Post on Wednesday.

JM is supported by three local companies -- PT Adhi Karya, Global Profex Synergy and PT Radian Pilar Pasifik -- and three foreign companies -- Singapore Mass Rapid Transit (SMRT), Singapore Technology Electronics (ST - Electronics) and Hitachi Asia Ltd.

Sielo
May 6th, 2005, 10:40 AM
INDONESIA PRESS:Hitachi Mulls Price Cut For Monorail Cars

JAKARTA (Dow Jones)--A representative of the consortium tasked to build Jakarta's planned monorail mass transit system has said that Japan's Hitachi Ltd. (6501.TO) may lower its price bid on a contract to supply train cars for the project, the Jakarta Post reports.

Hitachi will revise its original $400 million bid in an attempt to stay competitive with two lower-priced competing firms, South Korea's Rotem Co. and a unit of China International Trust & Investment Corp., or CITIC, the report says, citing PT Jakarta Monorail Director Sukmawaty Sjukur.

PT Jakarta Monorail, a consortium that includes Hitachi Asia Ltd., has said that the monorail will begin operations in 2007.

macgyver
May 6th, 2005, 11:13 AM
posted in the main forums. Rotem's maglev monorail rolling stock
http://www.rotem.co.kr/eng/Business_Activities/RollingStock/maglev/mgv.gif

But , It is single-car model ....
I don't like it .... :bash: :bash:

ryanr
May 6th, 2005, 12:49 PM
PT Jakarta Monorail, a consortium that includes Hitachi Asia Ltd., has said that the monorail will begin operations in 2007.

:eek: wow, it is delayed big time!

sanhen
May 6th, 2005, 01:23 PM
But , It is single-car model ....
I don't like it .... :bash: :bash:

Thats just a prototype Mac. Korean maglev model can be scaled from small single car model to super long model with speed up to 500 km/h.

Any one has any info on chinese technology? I can find it on the net. The Citic website doesnt show much info.

Alvin
May 6th, 2005, 01:30 PM
:eek: wow, it is delayed big time!
not really, original plan was late 2006 for green line and mid 2007 for blue line. But now I'm getting the feeling that green will be ready in 2007 while blue may have to wait to 2010.....that would be delay BIG TIME .

tata
May 9th, 2005, 08:56 PM
Pemda DKI tidak beri subsidi proyek monorel

JAKARTA (Bisnis): Pemerintah Provinsi (Pemprov) DKI Jakarta tidak akan memberi subsidi tarif dan menyertakan modal dalam pembangunan monorel jika nilai investasi proyek itu di bawah US$500 juta.
"Kami tidak akan menyertakan modal dan subsidi," ujar Gubernur DKI Sutiyoso pekan lalu sehubungan penggunaan teknologi perusahaan Korsel, Rotem, dalam pembangunan monorel di Jakarta.

Menurut dia, Rotem akan ke Jakarta pekan ini untuk menyampaikan penawaran nilai proyek monorel. "Yang jelas, perusahaan itu harus bersedia memberi penawaran lebih rendah dari Jepang."

Sebelumnya, PT Jakarta Monorel, sebuah konsorsium lokal untuk proyek monorel itu, telah menjajaki kemungkinan bekerja sama dengan Hitachi dari Jepang, namun tidak dilanjutkan.

Hitachi mengajukan penawaran US$650 juta, sehingga menyulitkan PT Jakarta Monorel untuk mendapatkan modal guna memenuhi penawaran tersebut.

PT Jakarta Monorel lalu meminta Pemprov DKI Jakarta memberi subsidi tarif US$20 juta per tahun selama tujuh tahun serta ikut menanamkan modal awal maksimal 30% dari investasi awal sebesar US$200 juta.

Sesuai perjanjian kerja sama antara DKI dan PT Jakarta Monorel pada 31 Mei 2004, Ketua Komisi D DPRD DKI Sayogo Hendrosubroto mengatakan kedua pihak harus sudah menandatangani perjanjian fasilitas pembiayaan (financial closing) pada 31 Mei 2005. "Namun, penundaan penandatanganan dimungkinkan dan diberikan tambahan waktu enam bulan."

Sutiyoso mengancam menunda penandatanganan financial closing itu jika sampai 31 Mei ini perjanjian pembangunan monorel belum juga tercapai.

Libatkan Inka

Secara terpisah Menhub M. Hatta Rajasa mengimbau Pemprov DKI agar melibatkan potensi nasional seperti PT Industri Kereta Api (PT Inka) dalam merealisasikan proyek monorel itu. "Ini demi efisiensi biaya sekaligus menyinergikan potensi nasional yang ada di Indonesia."

Pelibatan BUMN, paparnya, akan membawa keuntungan secara signifikan terhadap kedua pihak termasuk PT Inka yang bergerak dalam bidang industri perkeretaapian. "Memang saya wanti-wanti proyek monorel melibatkan PT Inka dan melibatkan potensi nasional yang lainnya," katanya kepada Bisnis.

Dia meminta kejelasan sisi teknis dan kebijakan pendanaan sebagai bentuk pertanggungjawaban pemerintah kepada masyarakat secara luas. "Kami minta Pemprov DKI secepatnya menyelesaikan sisi teknis dan skim pendanaannya."

Monorel Jakarta nantinya akan terdiri dari dua jalur yaitu green line, yang merupakan jalur berputar 14,8 km dari gedung BEJ-Stadion Gelora Bung Karno-Plaza Senayan-TVRI-Taman Ria Senayan-Gedung MPR/DPR-Pejompongan-Karet-Sudirman-Setia Budi Utara-Kuningan Sentral-Taman Rasuna-Casablanca-Gran Melia-Satria Mandala dengan 14 buah stasiun. (m01/k20)

Alvin
May 20th, 2005, 07:26 AM
Monorail project not viable now: Activists
Damar Harsanto, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

As the expiry date of the contract between the city administration and PT Jakarta Monorail draws near without agreement, transportation activists are calling for an end to the agreement, arguing the project is simply not feasible.

Activists from the Indonesia Transportation Society (MTI), the New York-based Institute for Transportation and Development Policy (ITDP) and non-governmental organization Pelangi said earlier this week that the project would only force the taxpayers to shoulder the costly endeavor through expensive subsidies.

"The administration should make an evaluation of the contract and look deeper into the possibility of calling off the deal before it gets more difficult for the administration to withdraw from the deal," MTI chairman Bambang Susantono told The Jakarta Post.

Walter Hook of the ITDP concurred with Bambang, saying that the monorail project was not viable.

"I believe that the monorail will serve few people very well and not the majority. But most people will pay for it," Hook said.

Hook said his NGO carried out a survey of 120,000 passengers using public transport along the planned monorail routes and discovered that the demand for the monorail service very low.

ITDP estimated that the monorail's blue line would serve 25,000 passengers daily, while the green line only 7,000 riders, much lower than the 77,562 and 38,650 passengers projected earlier by the Japanese International Cooperation Agency on the Study of Integrated Transportation Master Plan for the Greater Jakarta (SITRAMP).

"The reason why the demand is very low is because the monorail has poor connections with the rest of the public transportation (services) and its fare of Rp 5,000 a single trip is much higher than the bus fares," Hook said.

PT Jakarta Monorail, handpicked to develop the monorail, has requested the city administration help subsidize the monorail project to maintain the fares at an affordable price of Rp 5,000.

It also asked the administration to impose electronic road pricing along the monorail's routes to force motorists to switch from their private cars to monorail cars.

Hook said that he would prefer the busway to the monorail owing to wide difference in the investment costs.

"The construction of one kilometer of busway corridor costs around US$1 million, while the monorail spends at least $58 million per kilometer." Jakarta could develop entire busway routes across the city with the same amount of money earmarked for the monorail project, he said.

Pelangi policy analyst Andi Rahmah, who is also a member of the Jakarta Transportation Council, said the busway outweighed the monorail in terms of sustainability.

"The investment as well as maintenance costs of the busway are much less than the monorail. We don't even need to subsidize the project since the operation of the busway will be able to cover maintenance costs, and even make profits," she said.

The fate of the 28-kilometer monorail project remains unclear, although the concession contract between the administration and its private partner, PT Jakarta Monorail, will expire on May 31.

The agreement was signed on May 31, 2004. Under the agreement, signed by Governor Sutiyoso and JM president director Ruslan Diwiryo, the company is required to complete a financial close within a year, which could be extended for another six months. Beyond that, the two parties may have to sign another agreement.

Sutiyoso said that he would extend the contract to give more time for the company to close a deal with potential financiers

Alvin
June 2nd, 2005, 02:32 AM
Japan to invest in MRT in Jakarta


Jepang Akan Investasi MRT di Jakarta


Tokyo, Kompas - Menteri Koordinator Perekonomian Aburizal Bakrie kemarin mengungkapkan, untuk membantu mengatasi kemacetan lalu lintas serta menambah alternatif sarana transportasi di Jakarta, pemerintah berencana akan membangun sarana kereta api subway atau mass rapid transport (MRT) dengan bantuan investasi dari Pemerintah Jepang.

"Kita masih garap gagasan itu karena Jepang menyatakan tertarik untuk membangunnya. Untuk tahap pertama, ide yang mereka lontarkan adalah mass rapid transport yang mengombinasikan jalur utara-selatan dengan jalur dari timur ke barat, yaitu Blok M sampai Gambir, digabungkan dengan kereta api ke arah Depok atau Tangerang," ujar Aburizal Bakrie, seperti dilaporkan wartawan Kompas Nugroho F Yudho dari Tokyo, Jepang. Pernyataan itu disampaikan Aburizal seusai mendampingi Presiden Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono bertemu dengan Menteri Ekonomi, Perdagangan, dan Industri Jepang Soichi Nakagawa, Rabu (1/6) pagi.

Gagasan pembangunan MRT itu muncul sebagai bagian dari program-program infrastruktur yang bisa diberikan Jepang untuk meningkatkan dan memacu pemenuhan kebutuhan infrastruktur di Indonesia. Namun, tidak dijelaskan kapan proyek itu akan dilaksanakan karena belum dibahas secara detail. Yang jelas, proyek itu kelak akan berbentuk kerja sama antara Pemerintah Indonesia dan Pemerintah Jepang.

Aburizal mengakui, "Itu program yang investasinya besar sekali. Tapi, itu lebih kepada pemerintah dengan pemerintah karena faktor subsidinya besar. Meskipun nanti ada bagian yang bersifat public- private, di mana ada joint antara pemerintah dan swasta untuk komersialnya juga. Tapi, faktor subsidinya lebih besar sehingga lebih baik dikerjakan secara government to government."

Untuk pembangunan MRT tersebut, Aburizal memperkirakan investasi yang dibutuhkan mencapai 800 juta dollar untuk pembangunan jalurnya serta tambahan sekitar 300-400 juta dollar untuk sarana kereta apinya. Karena masih merupakan awal, Aburizal mengaku belum bisa merinci lebih detail tentang proyek tersebut karena masih harus dibahas Pemerintah Indonesia maupun Jepang sendiri. *

tata
June 2nd, 2005, 10:55 PM
read news in Kompas, it seems they resume construction on Jl. Rasuna.

JAG2
June 3rd, 2005, 05:19 PM
ahve they decided yet which system they re going to use ??? and will this project finish in time ???

tata
June 3rd, 2005, 07:24 PM
ahve they decided yet which system they re going to use ??? and will this project finish in time ???

news in Kompas rather confusing for me, since on the same day there's other news saying that government give PT JM 6 month to clarify project financing otherwise they risk losing the project. Other thing, they havent decided what system to use.

Alvin
June 3rd, 2005, 11:47 PM
the work going on rasuna said is excavation/foundational work i think, which won't be affected by whatever technology is used in the end. My feeling is that the project will go ahead no matter what, its just a matter of when will it start and finish..

Alvin
June 16th, 2005, 05:22 AM
Monorail work again as fresh funds begin to flow
Damar Harsanto, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

PT Jakarta Monorail has resumed its long delayed construction work and will soon announce its foreign financiers it said on Wednesday.

Workers have been seen erecting concrete piles for the elevated monorail track on Jl. HR Rasuna Said in Kuningan, South Jakarta, in the past week.

"We have erected five new piles on Jl. HR Rasuna Said since early this month. We can install one pile per day. We expect the work to be finished by the end of July," the company's chief project officer Bovanantoo told The Jakarta Post on Wednesday.

Bovanantoo said the company was prioritizing the construction of the five-kilometer line from its depot over the West Flood Canal to Casablanca, South Jakarta, which will be a test line.

"We will start trying to operate the monorail cars on this line next year," he added.

Word has it that the company is closer to the finalization of a deal with the project's new financiers.

The project had been brought to a halt for about six months amid difficulties in seeking foreign financiers in the project estimated to cost US$650 million.

Its financial difficulties had forced the Jakarta administration to extend the contract with the company for another six months, following the expiration of the contract on May 31, 2005.

"I heard that the company has found new financing partners. But, it has not submitted a progress report yet. We will meet soon," Governor Sutiyoso said.

Another source with the administration close to the project revealed that hopes were running high for the continuation of the project following the support of Vice President Jusuf Kalla through his company Bukaka Group.

However, PT Jakarta Monorail president director Ruslan Diwirjo declined to confirm this.

"We do have a preference among the investors. But, we have not made a final decision," Ruslan told the Post.

The company promised to announce the financiers next week.

Transportation experts have warned that the development of the monorail is not feasible, since it fails to connect with other public transportation systems, like the railway and buses, and therefore would serve few passengers.

New York-based non-governmental organization the Institute for Transportation and Development Policy (ITDP) had carried out a survey among 120,000 passengers using public transportation along the planned monorail routes and discovered that the demand was very low.

ITDP estimates that the 28-kilometer line will only serve 32,000 passengers per day.

Observers also said most residents would not be able to afford the fare of Rp 5,000 per single trip, much higher than fares for regular buses or trains, at around Rp 1,500, or half of the air-conditioned busway fare of Rp 2,500.

City secretary Ritola Tasmaya said that the administration would provide Kampung Melayu in East Jakarta, the east part of Senayan sports complex in Central Jakarta and Mal Taman Anggrek shopping mall in West Jakarta as parking space to encourage private car users to switch to the monorail.

"The electronic road pricing system, which will be managed by the administration, will be implemented simultaneously with the operation of the monorail," Ritola said.

627
June 16th, 2005, 05:54 AM
bummer.. id prefer a subwya because the monorail is gonna make the city look ugly, id say..

Alvin
June 16th, 2005, 06:25 AM
bummer.. id prefer a subwya because the monorail is gonna make the city look ugly, id say..
The subway will still be constructed i.e. they're not mutually exclusive projects. The subway will be funded by central government loans, possibly from JBIC (Japan), whereas monorail is privately funded.

hadiwinata
June 16th, 2005, 08:53 AM
The subway will still be constructed i.e. they're not mutually exclusive projects. The subway will be funded by central government loans, possibly from JBIC (Japan), whereas monorail is privately funded.

They start the construction on Kuningan (photo taken today 16/6/2005) .. the last pic is the new gate of Oz Embassy.. :runaway:

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JktCity
June 16th, 2005, 10:38 AM
wait a sec here....so there will be subway AND monorail?? havent followed this thread for quite a while now...

Alvin
June 16th, 2005, 10:57 AM
wait a sec here....so there will be subway AND monorail?? havent followed this thread for quite a while now...
yeah..monorail's a definite, they're still talking about how to fund the subway.

JAG2
June 16th, 2005, 11:45 AM
so once again , will they finished this project in the projected time-frame??

627
June 16th, 2005, 04:17 PM
oh oklay... so then.. why do we need a monorail if were gonna get a subway?

Alvin
June 16th, 2005, 04:20 PM
oh oklay... so then.. why do we need a monorail if were gonna get a subway?
different routes.....
subway: south-north
Monorail: CBD (line 1) and east-west (line 2)

JktCity
June 16th, 2005, 05:56 PM
thats is stunning news....finallu monorail...so when will it be ready then? next year august?? :D... cus thats when i will be back in jkt...hopefuli...

Alvin
June 16th, 2005, 06:04 PM
thats is stunning news....finallu monorail...so when will it be ready then? next year august?? :D... cus thats when i will be back in jkt...hopefuli...
that's a little toooo optimistic. I'm guessing mid-2007 for the Green Line, and 1-2 years later for the blue line.

tata
June 16th, 2005, 06:17 PM
happy to see the project resumed.
@HADIWINATA: Thanks for the pictures !

sanhen
June 16th, 2005, 07:49 PM
project like this always get unrealistic timeframe. expect it to finish much later than predicted. with not too much cost blow out.

Yappofloyd
June 17th, 2005, 02:12 PM
@hadiwinta, yes thankyou very much for the pics. Great to see that construction has started again on the initial 5kms of line. It may not open till 2007 or later but at least each day of construction will inch slowly towards introducing some new mass transit to Jkt.

Alvin
June 17th, 2005, 02:38 PM
Yappofloyd, are you an urban transportation expert? hehe :)

tata
June 18th, 2005, 10:16 AM
from kompas.com (June 18, 2005)

- DKI provencial government will build 3 park-and-ride to provide parking places for monorail passangers in Kp Melayu, Parkir Timur Senayan and Mall Taman Anggrek
- PT JM currently concentrating on erecting the pillars from Pejompongan-Dukuh Atas-Kuningan

hadiwinata
June 23rd, 2005, 10:35 AM
from kompas.com (June 18, 2005)

- DKI provencial government will build 3 park-and-ride to provide parking places for monorail passangers in Kp Melayu, Parkir Timur Senayan and Mall Taman Anggrek
- PT JM currently concentrating on erecting the pillars from Pejompongan-Dukuh Atas-Kuningan

Rite in front of Mall Taman Anggrek, there's a huge huge park - so far i can see a nice garden with a jogging track, i think they refer to this location..

tata
July 3rd, 2005, 10:13 PM
China Tawarkan Investasi 85 Persen untuk Monorel
Jaminan Harus dari Pemerintah Pusat

Oleh: OSA TRIYATNA

Jakarta, Kompas - Pembangunan kereta rel tunggal (monorel) tetap berlanjut. Investor China sudah menawarkan investasi 85 persen dari total investasi monorel yang mencapai sekitar 500 juta dollar AS. Hanya saja, investor China sangat mengharapkan jaminan investasi dari Pemerintah Indonesia.

Presiden Direktur PT Jakarta Monorel (JM) Ruslan Diwirjo mengatakan hal itu, Jumat (1/7) di Jakarta, ketika menjelaskan kelanjutan pembangunan monorel. Selain Jepang, Korea, dan Kanada, China merupakan salah satu investor yang akan menyediakan teknologi monorel di Jakarta.

Ruslan mengatakan, sekarang ini iklim berinvestasi sangat membutuhkan jaminan pemerintah. Apalagi, jumlah investasinya sangat besar. Jika dihitung- hitung, investasi yang akan ditanamkan investor China mencapai 425 juta dollar AS.

Seperti diberitakan, jaminan investasi di Indonesia menjadi persoalan mengemuka ketika Wakil Perdana Menteri China Wu Yi bertemu Menteri Koordinator Bidang Perekonomian Aburizal Bakrie di Zhong Nan Hai, Beijing. Wu Yi meminta Pemerintah Indonesia untuk menjamin terciptanya iklim yang kondusif supaya tercipta peluang bagi investor untuk meraih keuntungan, (Kompas, 29/6).

”Nilai investasi yang akan masuk dari China sangat besar. Dengan investasi sebesar 85 persen itu, Pemerintah Provinsi DKI Jakarta sebetulnya cuma menyiapkan 15 persennya saja,” kata Ruslan.

Sekarang ini, ujar Ruslan, jaminan investasi pemerintah menjadi persoalan besar. Kalau memang tidak bisa diperoleh jaminan, investor dikhawatirkan meninggalkan Indonesia dan beralih ke negara lain. Pembangunan infrastruktur pun dapat terbengkalai.

Meski demikian, Ruslan mengaku, sesuai nasihat Wakil Presiden Jusuf Kalla beberapa waktu lalu, PT JM sedang berupaya keras agar nilai investasi monorel ditekan seminim mungkin. Bahkan, PT JM akan berupaya menggandeng investor-investor dalam negeri.

Secara terpisah, Ketua Kamar Dagang dan Industri Indonesia Mohamad S Hidayat mengatakan, jaminan investasi tetap harus melalui persetujuan pemerintah pusat. Pemerintah daerah, termasuk Pemerintah Provinsi DKI Jakarta, memang tidak bisa begitu saja membuat surat jaminan investasi.

Untuk membangun iklim berinvestasi, seperti monorel, pemerintah daerah dapat saja terlebih dahulu memperhitungkan jumlah pengembalian utang kepada investor. ”Perhitungan itu harus dilakukan sedetail mungkin agar kelak pemerintah pusat tidak dibebani utang yang terlampau besar,” jelas Hidayat.

joko
July 4th, 2005, 04:48 PM
Sydney Monorail :

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XxRyoChanxX
July 5th, 2005, 06:48 AM
so anyone have any idea when is this monorail project is going to be finished..~

ncon
July 5th, 2005, 07:08 AM
so anyone have any idea when is this monorail project is going to be finished..~

U MEAN AT JAKARTA ? 2009-2012 should be finished (whole jakarta)

XxRyoChanxX
July 5th, 2005, 09:39 AM
ohh ic ic...~ how about the subway..are they really building a subway? i wonder what's going to happen if it floods in jakarta

ncon
July 5th, 2005, 09:52 AM
try to ask others i'm not so good at transport

sanhen
July 5th, 2005, 10:57 AM
another interesting challange for enginering ;)

tata
July 6th, 2005, 05:21 PM
Pembangunan Fondasi Monorel Jalan Terus

Jakarta, Kompas - Pengerjaan proyek Jakarta Monorel masih terus berlangsung dan sedang mencapai penyelesaian fondasi di ruas Kuningan dan Asia-Afrika. Pengerjaan fondasi diprioritaskan untuk menyelesaikan jalur sepanjang lima kilometer dari Depo Monorel di Tanah Abang ke jurusan Karet-Casablanca.

Presiden Direktur Jakarta Monorail Ruslan Diwiryo mengatakan di Jakarta, Selasa (5/7), proyek tersebut terus berlangsung tanpa ada hambatan berarti. Proyek pengecoran, pemasangan fondasi, dan pelbagai kegiatan pekerjaan sipil masih terus berlangsung di jalur hijau sebagai tahap pertama monorel Jakarta.

”Pekerjaan tahap satu dimaksudkan agar (kereta) monorel dapat diuji coba di jalur tersebut. Kereta monorel akan dibawa dari pabrik dan langsung dipasang pada jalur itu. Pada awal tahun 2006 pengerjaan fondasi di jalur tersebut sudah dapat diselesaikan,” Ruslan menjelaskan.

Titik fondasi tersebut sudah mencapai puluhan lokasi di sepanjang Jalan Asia-Afrika dan Jalan Rasuna Said. Di lintasan sepanjang kedua jalan tersebut akan dibangun stasiun monorel karena besarnya pergerakan manusia di kawasan itu. Pada lintasan tahap pertama akan dibangun sebanyak enam stasiun.

Jarak antara titik fondasi tersebut adalah sejauh 30 meter yang dikerjakan dengan teknologi pancang ataupun bor agar tidak mengganggu kondisi lingkungan dan lalu lintas di sekitar jalur monorel. Pekerjaan tersebut dilakukan pada malam hari untuk mengurangi gangguan lalu lintas.

Sejumlah kendala yang kerap dihadapi adalah faktor cuaca dan kondisi kedalaman serta kepadatan tanah yang berpengaruh pada proses pengecoran dan penanaman fondasi. Sejauh ini di kedua ruas jalan tersebut proyek masih berjalan sesuai rencana.

Pihak Jakarta Monorel hingga kini belum memutuskan jenis teknologi yang digunakan, yakni tenaga listrik atau Maglev (Magnetic Elevated—Red). ”Kami belum mengambil keputusan teknologi yang digunakan untuk proyek monorel. Yang jelas teknologi yang dipilih diharapkan dapat bersinergi dengan kemampuan konsorsium lokal dari PT Inka, LEN, dan lembaga terkait,” Ruslan menjelaskan. (ong)

tata
July 6th, 2005, 05:31 PM
ohh ic ic...~ how about the subway..are they really building a subway? i wonder what's going to happen if it floods in jakarta

when it floods they turn into SUBmarineWAY.... :D No.... I'm joking.

See this way, Bangkok has the same problem of flood with Jakarta, and it has subway already. Technology is there to prevent subway from being inundated. If we build it underground we must use it otherwise build overground, less expensive but doesnt look nice for the city.

sanhen
July 6th, 2005, 05:38 PM
If I am not mistaken.. Jakarta is now under the sea level right? How about bangkok? Jakarta ground water has been poluted by sea water which is: another problem.

tata
July 6th, 2005, 05:42 PM
If I am not mistaken.. Jakarta is now under the sea level right? How about bangkok? Jakarta ground water has been poluted by sea water which is: another problem.

I dont know about Bangkok what I know is southern part jakarta is higher than northern part and yet, for subway project, they build overground in the south and underground in the north..... hmmmmmmm

XxRyoChanxX
July 7th, 2005, 09:39 AM
sigh..so complicated...~ well whatever they're going to build....i hope it will help the traffic issue in jakarta

tata
July 7th, 2005, 08:41 PM
SUARA PEMBARUAN DAILY
Model Monorail Diumumkan Akhir Juli

JAKARTA - PT Jakarta Monorel (JM) tengah mengkaji model dan teknologi kereta rel tunggal (monorail) yang ditawarkan dua investor, yakni Rotem Company serta Konsorsium INKA (Industri Kereta Api) dan Siemens.

"Kami sedang mengkaji kelayakan teknologi dan harga dari dua model monorail yang ditawarkan. Akhir bulan ini, kami akan umumkan mana yang dipakai dalam proyek monorail," kata Direktur Operasional PT JM, Sukmawaty Sjukur, di Jakarta, Rabu (6/7).

Menurut dia, kajian mengenai kelayakan teknologi dan harga monorail menjadi pertimbangan utama karena akan disesuaikan dengan kemampuan PT JM untuk mengoperasikan monorail dan permodalan yang dimiliki.

Sukmawaty mengungkapkan, ada dua alternatif teknologi yang ditawarkan, yaitu Maglev (magnetic elevated) dari Rotem Company yang sudah diterapkan di Korea dan tenaga listrik yang ditawarkan INKA dan Siemens. "Tapi, sampai saat ini kami belum membuat keputusan, teknologi apa yang cocok untuk diterapkan dalam proyek monorail di Jakarta," ujarnya

Sementara itu, miniatur monorail buatan Rotem Company, dipajang di ruang tamu Gedung Balai Kota, Jakarta, Rabu (6/7). Miniatur berukuran 1,5 meter itu, diberikan oleh perwakilan Rotem Company saat berkunjung ke Balai Kota, Selasa (5/7).

Berdasarkan pengamatan Pembaruan, di sisi kanan dan kiri gerbong miniatur monorail itu bertuliskan Jakarta Maglev. Di bagian depan miniatur itu, tertulis Rotem Company. Warna miniatur terdiri dari putih di sisi kanan dan kiri, serta ungu pada bagian atap.

Dari diskripsi dan spesifikasi yang dipajang bersamaan dengan miniatur monorail itu, tertulis tenaga penggeraknya (power supply) berkekuatan 1.500 volt DC dengan Train formation MCT MC2. (J-9)

Last modified: 7/7/05

Ara
July 10th, 2005, 05:01 PM
If they get this thing going, I hope that it would be a non-smoking Monorail. It better be strictly enforced. I don't think I wan't to show up at work smelling like a pack of ciggarate.

sanhen
July 10th, 2005, 06:07 PM
Put smoke detector inside the train. When someone smoke, the detector will stop the train :)

Ara
July 10th, 2005, 06:11 PM
Put smoke detector inside the train. When someone smoke, the detector will stop the train :)
That's not a bad idea. Will piss of a lot of people, but it will force people to watch their backs when they smoke.

sanhen
July 10th, 2005, 06:54 PM
Yeah same technique to force people not to smoke in a cinema: shut off the movie ;)

Pasti kerasa banget ya malunya making the whole monorail network late lol

XxRyoChanxX
July 11th, 2005, 06:12 AM
that's funny..LOL

Alvin
July 11th, 2005, 07:26 AM
anyone in Jakarta care to visit Balai Kota?? there's a miniature of Korea's proposed monorail..its called the "Jakarta Maglev" :) (read in the paper a week ago). I wonder what it looks like...so next time any of you Jakartans visit the Balai Kota, bring ur cameras with u ..hehe

XxRyoChanxX
July 11th, 2005, 09:39 AM
balai kota..is that a city? if u all dont mind me asking..

Alvin
July 11th, 2005, 09:57 AM
balai kota..is that a city? if u all dont mind me asking..
no no, its a building =) municipal government building, I think...

sanhen
July 11th, 2005, 10:03 AM
city hall..

Alvin
July 11th, 2005, 10:49 AM
city hall..
or 'town hall'

XxRyoChanxX
July 12th, 2005, 03:11 AM
o0o0...hahhaa..sorry..i feel stupid now asking that question

Alvin
July 17th, 2005, 02:55 AM
Consortium favors Siemens technology for MRT project
Damar Harsanto, The Jakarta Post/Jakarta

The new consortium for the construction of the delayed mass rapid transit (MRT) project in the capital, Monorail Indonesia, has signed a memorandum of understanding over the use of German Siemens technology.

The signing ceremony was held on July 7 with little fanfare.

Among the signatories grouped in the consortium are developer PT Jakarta Monorail, American investment bank JP Morgan, Hong Kong company MTRC, Bukaka Group -- which is partly owned by the family of Vice President Jusuf Kalla -- state car train maker INKA and state electronic maker LEN Industry, as well as Hong Kong-based Mass Transit Railway Cooperation and Siemens.

Minister of Transportation Hatta Radjasa and State Minister of Research and Technology Kusmayanto Kadiman witnessed the signing of the agreement.

"The use of Siemens technology will reduce the project's cost to US$480 million, cheaper than other bids made by South Korean company Rotem, which offers magnetic levitation technology (Maglev) or Japanese Hitachi's monorail technology," assistant to the city secretary for development affairs Hari Sandjojo told The Jakarta Post on Friday.

Rotem offered its technology for $600 million, while Hitachi quoted $670 million.

Sources familiar with the MRT revealed Siemens had an advantage over the other bidders due to their requirements: First, for the Jakarta administration to subsidize the operation of the MRT for several years and second, for a stake in the electronic road pricing (ERP) system, which will be imposed on private cars using routes parallel with the MRT's.

There will be two MRT routes: the Green Line, through the business districts of Kuningan and Sudirman in South Jakarta, and the Blue Line, from Kampung Melayu in East Jakarta to Taman Anggrek shopping mall in West Jakarta.

Hari said of the total cost of $480 million, PT Jakarta Monorail would provide $60 million, while local financiers would pay $90 million, leaving $330 million to be raised from foreign financiers.

"We expect both JP Morgan and MTRC to raise funds from foreign financiers for the project," he said.

Meanwhile, PT Jakarta Monorail director Sukmawaty Sjukur told the Post the consortium had not made a final decision.

"We will announce our final decision on the technology on July 28, the deadline for the bidders to come up with revised bids," she said.

Alvin
July 17th, 2005, 04:00 AM
http://references.transportation.siemens.com/refdb/referencelist.jsp

sanhen
July 17th, 2005, 03:33 PM
Hmmm Siemens... what do you guys think? Siemens has a strong financial backer for sure.

627
July 17th, 2005, 05:42 PM
but it is sooooo much more cheaper than the other two options, and with a difference of 200 mil there is bound to be some technologically setbacks. if the government plans to have this monorail built permantly, then i say that they should stickwith the better monorails, such as teh ones presented by the chinese and koreans beacuse those two would probably last longer. hwoever, if they plan on having the monorail for a while and then ditching it for a subway, they coulod stick with teh siemens i guess.

plus, the siemens monorail looks reallyh ugly. its the one they have in bangkok and it looks like shit

Fir3blaze
July 17th, 2005, 08:57 PM
plus, the siemens monorail looks reallyh ugly. its the one they have in bangkok and it looks like shit

I agree that cheaper doesn't necessarily mean better. And since the bulk of investment is going to be done by foreign investors anyway, price tag shouldn't be the most important consideration. Quality would be important as well. I think with JP morgan in the picture, we can expect good financial backing. On a side note, so far I couldn't find any picture of a Siemens built monorail. Hope they're not choosing something too "light". We need mass transport. :)

XxRyoChanxX
July 17th, 2005, 09:05 PM
hmmm... i think they should not go with siemens

Alvin
July 18th, 2005, 12:22 AM
I agree that cheaper doesn't necessarily mean better. And since the bulk of investment is going to be done by foreign investors anyway, price tag shouldn't be the most important consideration. Quality would be important as well. I think with JP morgan in the picture, we can expect good financial backing. On a side note, so far I couldn't find any picture of a Siemens built monorail. Hope they're not choosing something too "light". We need mass transport. :)
Checkout the link I put above, I'm not sure if they've built any monorails but they certainly seem quite experienced with MRT/Subway carriages. Though the exterior designs leaves a lot to be desired, based on my experience of using the MRT in Shanghai (which they built), they seem quite efficient and reliable.
Btw, the European carriages have better designs, but I guess they carry a much higher price tag. I wonder what a Siemens monorail would look like.

Alvin
July 18th, 2005, 12:24 AM
Also, I think this is a backdoor arrangement made between Yusuf Kalla (PT BUKAKA) and Habibie (German technology)...

Hmm, I secretly hope Korean Rotem will win it though...imagine Jakarta Maglev...would be cool. BUt they need to bring down the price for sure if they want to win it...
lets just wait for 28 July folks...
most improtantly whatever technology they decide, hopefully its once and for all decided, no more bickering.

sanhen
July 18th, 2005, 03:06 AM
What confuse me is: How come there is a 200 million difference? That is a HUGE numbers. Why they are cheaper?

But for Siemens, I am not questioning their built and technical quality. They are german enginering afterall. Even though from exterior design side they tend to be bulky and does not have that 'sleek european' look. But interior usually usable and 'humane'.

Alvin
July 18th, 2005, 03:29 AM
What confuse me is: How come there is a 200 million difference? That is a HUGE numbers. Why they are cheaper?

But for Siemens, I am not questioning their built and technical quality. They are german enginering afterall. Even though from exterior design side they tend to be bulky and does not have that 'sleek european' look. But interior usually usable and 'humane'.
it could be a good thing that they are a lot cheaper...perhaps they're more efficient? or because they're larger and more experienced, they have the advantage of economics of scale. Anyway, as long as quality is not compromised, the cheaper the better, right?

sanhen
July 18th, 2005, 04:32 AM
Melbourne tram is made by siemens. And it was made using out of the shelf spareparts ;) Maybe thats why they are cheaper hehehe. High quality tho!.

tata
July 18th, 2005, 09:19 AM
why cheaper? my theorie is Siemens designs it, Bukaka builds it.

XxRyoChanxX
July 18th, 2005, 10:07 PM
i hope they make their decision soon~~

Alvin
July 19th, 2005, 02:47 AM
why cheaper? my theorie is Siemens designs it, Bukaka builds it.
yes, exactly. they're gonna get local industry involved..PT INKA and BUKAKA. THis is good for generating employment...

tata
July 19th, 2005, 09:25 AM
yes, exactly. they're gonna get local industry involved..PT INKA and BUKAKA. THis is good for generating employment...

let's see if this materializes. INKA masters train technology so why not empowering local industry?

sanhen
July 19th, 2005, 10:49 AM
well.. for once the government do something right :)
keep up the good work.

hadiwinata
July 19th, 2005, 12:22 PM
regarding the flood thingy, i just watch TV this morning regarding the development of Banjir Kanal Timur. So, 30% of North Jakarta apparently has the same level of sea, while there are 3 major river came into the city from South & East. What the deutch had been created was the Banjir Kanal Barat back on 1933. So, by having Banjir Kanal Timur & Barat surrounding the city, hopefully it can managed the flow of water either is it from rain, river or even the sea.. i hope.. :)

Alvin
July 19th, 2005, 12:32 PM
regarding the flood thingy, i just watch TV this morning regarding the development of Banjir Kanal Timur. So, 30% of North Jakarta apparently has the same level of sea, while there are 3 major river came into the city from South & East. What the deutch had been created was the Banjir Kanal Barat back on 1933. So, by having Banjir Kanal Timur & Barat surrounding the city, hopefully it can managed the flow of water either is it from rain, river or even the sea.. i hope.. :)
yes, but when will it be built? this is an unsolved mystery....

Btw, I hate it how Sutiyoso now has three titles, besides being governor of Jakarta, he is also CHairman of PBSI and some regional badminton association (elected recently). This means he can't focus on his task as city governor...i think he should be sacked... :evil:

hadiwinata
July 19th, 2005, 01:18 PM
yes, but when will it be built? this is an unsolved mystery....

Btw, I hate it how Sutiyoso now has three titles, besides being governor of Jakarta, he is also CHairman of PBSI and some regional badminton association (elected recently). This means he can't focus on his task as city governor...i think he should be sacked... :evil:

ok, if you recall what happening in the last 2-3 weeks. People are commenting about iNpres XX/ 2005, regarding the special NGO to legalize the use of land for public consumption. Its related with this project... from the interview, BANG YOS said that until 2007 he expected up to 45% of the residences accross the BANJIR KANAL TIMUR could be freed.. better than never but i think at least we have a 'future' solution to overcome the flood in the city. If you go to Mangga Dua today, you will amazed with how the ManggaDua Square handle to manage the level of river water rite in front of their location.

Btw, Speaking of FLOODING, there was DISASTER FRIDAY last week while many of the commuter was trapped on the road. What happening to me ? Trapped 3 hours on the road, just to get myself decide to take "U" turn as the flooding was very bad 20 meters ahead.... :cry: :evil:

XxRyoChanxX
July 19th, 2005, 03:38 PM
wow that suckz...!~

sanhen
July 19th, 2005, 03:43 PM
Heh.. my sister was forced to ride a boat during the last jakarta great flood.

tata
July 19th, 2005, 05:49 PM
If you go to Mangga Dua today, you will amazed with how the ManggaDua Square handle to manage the level of river water rite in front of their location.


how they do it?

Alvin
July 20th, 2005, 02:09 AM
here's a picture of the shiny new Shenzhen metro, opened early this year. Makes you wanna kill Sutiyoso :soapbox: :gunz:
Jakarta cannot claim itself to be on par with other major cities in the region before it has a reliable Mass transportation system...period.

http://tinypic.com/5vvm6d

XxRyoChanxX
July 20th, 2005, 06:49 AM
is that what sutiyoso wants for jakartas monorail...but im guessing no ..right?

tata
July 20th, 2005, 07:47 AM
is that what sutiyoso wants for jakartas monorail...but im guessing no ..right?

no. this is what we want for south-north subway....

sanhen
July 20th, 2005, 02:26 PM
here's a picture of the shiny new Shenzhen metro, opened early this year. Makes you wanna kill Sutiyoso :soapbox: :gunz:
Jakarta cannot claim itself to be on par with other major cities in the region before it has a reliable Mass transportation system...period.

http://tinypic.com/5vvm6d

Looks like Singapore MRT.

Alvin
July 20th, 2005, 03:19 PM
Looks like Singapore MRT.
nothing beats the Hongkong MTR though, its the most efficient public transport system I've experienced ever...glad that its part of the consortium that's funding Jakarta's monorail..hopefully they'll share their experiences and expertise.

XxRyoChanxX
July 20th, 2005, 03:33 PM
hahha how could i be soo blind LOL... i meant subway...omg...~ LMAO

sanhen
July 20th, 2005, 04:00 PM
Above doors can be applied to monorail though. It is a very important safety measures.

tata
July 20th, 2005, 05:33 PM
Above doors can be applied to monorail though. It is a very important safety measures.

what is 'above doors'?

tata
July 20th, 2005, 09:03 PM
Looks like a confirmation of Siemens being selected.

Jakarta Monorail Akan Menggunakan Teknologi Siemens
Rabu, 20 Juli 2005 | 16:47 WIB

TEMPO Interaktif, Jakarta:PT Jakarta Monorail telah menandatangani perjanjian kerja sama dengan Siemens, Bukaka Group, PT INKA (Indonesian Kereta Api), dan LEN (Lembaga Elektronik Nasional) pada 7 Juli lalu.

"Penandatanganan disaksikan oleh Menteri Perhubungan Hatta Rajasa dengan Menristek Kusmayanto Kadiman," kata Asisten Pembangunan Sekda Provinsi DKI Jakarta Ari Sandjojo.

Jakarta Monorail akan menggunakan teknologi Siemens seharga US$ 460 juta. Namun belum jelas apakah akan menggunakan teknologi listrik atau magnetik. Sebelumnya, Pemprov DKI sempat ditawarkan teknologi Hitachi seharga US$ 560 juta dan teknologi Roppem seharga US$ 530 juta.