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Zaid_stone
September 7th, 2008, 10:19 PM
still one year to go...

NajamD
September 17th, 2008, 01:33 PM
Hey guys. My name is Najam and I am in the UK. When I was in Dubai last April, I booked 5 aprts. in Zumurud project. Have been quite worried about progress until I stumbled upon your site and forum. You guys are amazing!!! Keep up the good work. Initially i had thought about getting rid of some round about now, but I am now tempted to keep them all!! Good idea?

Morten_Denmark
September 17th, 2008, 01:49 PM
Hey guys. My name is Najam and I am in the UK. When I was in Dubai last April, I booked 5 aprts. in Zumurud project. Have been quite worried about progress until I stumbled upon your site and forum. You guys are amazing!!! Keep up the good work. Initially i had thought about getting rid of some round about now, but I am now tempted to keep them all!! Good idea?

Most likely the apartments will be significant more worth upon completion - so if you can keep them I would advise you to do just that. If you are in doubt why not sell a couple ?

NajamD
September 17th, 2008, 02:40 PM
Hi Morten, Thanks for your advice. I have so far paid 25% of the total purchase price and have been led to believe that it is much harder to attract investors at this point than at 10%. If i wanted 2 sell a couple, would you know where I should advertise?

Morten_Denmark
September 17th, 2008, 03:51 PM
Hi Morten, Thanks for your advice. I have so far paid 25% of the total purchase price and have been led to believe that it is much harder to attract investors at this point than at 10%. If i wanted 2 sell a couple, would you know where I should advertise?

Hi Najam

Selling and talking about prices you should go here - money talk is not allowed on the specific threads. Scroll a couple of pages back and some of the forumers talk about preferred agents..

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=490764&page=358

NajamD
September 18th, 2008, 03:27 PM
Are there any signs of market slowing down in Dubai? I know that it has been fairly quiet because of summer holidays and Ramadan etc. but is there any evidence of the "credit crunch" hitting the Dubai Real Estate yet? Any views?

Zaid_stone
September 19th, 2008, 12:59 AM
I advise you to sell,real estate market may crash soon

NajamD
September 19th, 2008, 10:12 AM
I think you might be wrong. Dubai may still be good for another 2-3 years. What has made you so pessimistic? Reading through your previous blogs, you seemed quite cheerful about the future before. There is far too much at stake for the market to simply crash!

NajamD
September 19th, 2008, 10:25 AM
Where is Imre? He may be able to cheer us all up!:) Certainly according to Morgan Stanley, property prices in Dubai will see a correction of about 10% in 2010 and not before.

Anjam
September 19th, 2008, 01:21 PM
What the same Morgan Stanley that are in deep $hite? I think most investment houses and analysts have lost all credibility.
The general consensus on this forum and views from people like Morten, HT, Imre etc are about as good as you are going to get.

Morten_Denmark
September 19th, 2008, 01:34 PM
What the same Morgan Stanley that are in deep $hite? I think most investment houses and analysts have lost all credibility.
The general consensus on this forum and views from people like Morten, HT, Imre etc are about as good as you are going to get.

Morgan Stanley's report is very critised - off course nobody involved in real estate likes to hear that real estate prices are going down but their analysis left out important parametres and even worse the data seem wrong. I remember that they gave some figures regarding delivered units (a good approach is to look on demand and supply). The bulk supply was going to come from the Marina and JLT - but the figures are just way off - it have to be a mistake based on way off estimates when developere expects to deliver. I think only 20% is going to be delivered compared to their figures - but this is just a rough estimate - it might be3 only 10%. Ask yourself how many units are going to be delivered the next 18 months.

BTW - it is better to discuss this on the investment thread.

NajamD
September 19th, 2008, 05:17 PM
Morgan Stanley's report is very critised - off course nobody involved in real estate likes to hear that real estate prices are going down but their analysis left out most important parametres. I remember that they gave some figures regarding delivered units (a good approach is to look on demand and supply). The bulk supply was going to come from the Marina and JLT - but the figures are just way off - it have to be a mistake based on way off estimates when developere expects to deliver. I think only 20% is going to be delivered compared to their figures - but this is just a rough estimate - it might be3 only 10%. Ask yourself how many units are going to be delivered the next 18 months.

BTW - it is better to discuss this on the investment thread.

Hey Morten. If there is a 10% correction after 200% appreciation, I would take it any time, wouldn't you?

Imre
September 19th, 2008, 05:56 PM
Where is Imre? He may be able to cheer us all up!:) Certainly according to Morgan Stanley, property prices in Dubai will see a correction of about 10% in 2010 and not before.

forget the Morgan Stanley and other rubbish companies, one day they will have a same story like Lehman Brothers,ML, AIG etc...

As I said before , they are sitting their office in London and New York and writing rubbish about the Dubai market.Most of them have no idea about Dubai and the market and I think most of them dont know where is Dubai exactly:)

Just see what will be ready in Dubai in 2009 and 2010 and you will see still dont need to worry about the crash.

True Blue
September 20th, 2008, 04:06 AM
forget the Morgan Stanley and other rubbish companies, one day they will have a same story like Lehman Brothers,ML, AIG etc...

As I said before , they are sitting their office in London and New York and writing rubbish about the Dubai market.Most of them have no idea about Dubai and the market and I think most of them dont know where is Dubai exactly:)

Just see what will be ready in Dubai in 2009 and 2010 and you will see still dont need to worry about the crash.

I think most of the above are cash starved and are trying to lure Middle East investors back to their back yards. The key word is PROPAGANDA

Zaid_stone
September 20th, 2008, 05:17 PM
there is a good news, rent is increasing in Dubai, 2BR IN GBR go for 235k.was 175k begining of this year.

Morten_Denmark
September 20th, 2008, 07:04 PM
there is a good news, rent is increasing in Dubai, 2BR IN GBR go for 235k.was 175k begining of this year.

Yes - it is true but perhaps more like 220k. JBR has become extremely popular - I dont know about the Marina in general but off course rents will go up here also. Expect good rents in Zumurud. Not long to the beach, metro and Marina Mall. Also Zumurud will have Gym and pool - JBR towers have no gyms (there are a couple of small ones but there are 30-40 towers)

Anyone know what floor we are at now ? - if they have kept the pace they should start working on the last floor within a week. I also would expect that they will soon start cladding work.

One interesting thing I was told was that the developer had to pay the contractor even more to continue the work - maybe this is why work is progressing better here compared to many other Marina projects.

Zaid_stone
September 20th, 2008, 09:02 PM
Imre is fasting, thats why no photos about Zumurud In Ramadan, Ithink 29th under progress.

Zaid_stone
September 25th, 2008, 01:03 AM
Good news, 29th casted.

Morten_Denmark
September 25th, 2008, 08:55 AM
Good news, 29th casted.

Does it mean that they start on 30 floor ? or is it 29 floor ? I ask as I heard they were working on the 29 floor some time ago.

I guess the final floor (30) will take some time. I am still setting my clock for a "keys in my hand" October 2009.

Zaid_stone
September 26th, 2008, 03:02 PM
30th started

audir8
September 27th, 2008, 11:41 AM
[QUOTE=Zaid_stone;25568390]there is a good news, rent is increasing in Dubai, 2BR IN GBR go for 235k.was 175k begining of this year.[/QUOTE

8 post back you tell all to sell, you such a cock.:bash:

Zaid_stone
September 27th, 2008, 03:48 PM
buying and selling is one thing, renting is another.

Morrismarina
September 27th, 2008, 10:17 PM
Hi Morten
Any idea what a one bed on JBR is fetching now ??

Dubai_Steve
September 28th, 2008, 04:17 AM
150,000 pa for 1 bed in JBR

Morten_Denmark
September 29th, 2008, 12:33 PM
Hi Morten
Any idea what a one bed on JBR is fetching now ??

Hi Morris

Yes, Steve gives a good estimate. I know about some studioes there going for 120 k now and 2 beds around 210 k. Depending on the size I thin you can get more than 150 k.

Zaid_stone
September 30th, 2008, 12:22 AM
Realy? Studio rented at 120k? good Eid news!!

Morten_Denmark
September 30th, 2008, 12:35 AM
Realy? Studio rented at 120k? good Eid news!!

I asked a property management firm about Zumurud rates - they always rent out the apartments they take on to the price they say. The small Zumurud studios - furnished (which will not be expensive) will be a bit over 100 k. The JBR studios are more than 600 sqft that why the bring in more.

So even if you pay 1 mill for a small studio you are looking at a 10% yield.

Happy Eid

True Blue
October 2nd, 2008, 12:30 AM
Update from 30th Sept;
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/8373/dsc00440ca0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

A bath with a marina view;
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/337/dsc00442yb5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Dubai_Steve
October 2nd, 2008, 10:43 PM
Has anyone here paid their 1% Dubai Land registry fee? Must be paid before 14th October according to Select otherwise your off-plan purchase is not legally valid.

True Blue
October 2nd, 2008, 10:56 PM
Steve, stop scaremongering!

You have been subjected to psychological torment by DS/SP.:bowtie:

Zaid_stone
October 3rd, 2008, 02:04 AM
Has anyone here paid their 1% Dubai Land registry fee? Must be paid before 14th October according to Select otherwise your off-plan purchase is not legally valid.

can you please give more details on this subject

Imre
October 3rd, 2008, 06:50 AM
Has anyone here paid their 1% Dubai Land registry fee? Must be paid before 14th October according to Select otherwise your off-plan purchase is not legally valid.

this is a speciality of Select:)

I hve many off plan properties and nobody asked that.

bizzybonita
October 3rd, 2008, 09:58 AM
^^ me either , i called Dec developer a long time ago and i told them about this issue but they infom me , That everything will be ready within the handover . All papers will be ready on time i guess i don't have to pay it , our developer do .

Dubai_Steve
October 3rd, 2008, 12:30 PM
The Law No.13 of 2008 aims to regulate off-plan sales and mandates registration with the land department in Dubai. According to the latest property law, it is mandatory to register off-plan property sales in Dubai with the Land Department. This is yet another law to safeguard the interests of the real estate investors and buyers of off-plan property in the emirate.

The law also states that master developers and sub-developers will no longer be allowed to charge transfer fees on off-plan sales. However, they will be allowed to accept administrative charges after approval by the Land Department.

Off-plan sales refer to the purchase of a property before the structure is actually built. Any sale or other disposition that transfers or restricts title shall be void if not registered in the interim real estate register, the new law stipulates. Any developer who makes a sale or other disposition before the law comes into effect must register it within 60 days.

bizzybonita
October 3rd, 2008, 01:11 PM
60days what if peoples outside UAE and they don't know about the new law , alot of peoples they don't know anything every week coming a new chapter for the old law .I guess only the contract is the solution if you have it that's it .

BTW if any investors do that register what the developer actually do ? it should be one of regular developer routine FREEEE .

AContract from developer => lead to already register it from Dubai Land Department "a common sense law" Makin money is a different story !


But the main problem is when u bought something during developing of The Real Estate Law itself !

Zaid_stone
October 3rd, 2008, 02:07 PM
this is a speciality of Select:)

I hve many off plan properties and nobody asked that.

who is Select please?

jeetha
October 3rd, 2008, 09:48 PM
who is Select please?

You don’t really want to know…..believe me.

Zaid_stone
October 4th, 2008, 12:15 AM
I did not get it.

Dubai_Steve
October 4th, 2008, 01:46 AM
Select = Select Property aka Dubai Select.

Something that occured to me is that it may only be a few developers like Select that require this to be paid as the UK Dubai Select company was acting as a 3rd party selling off-plan to Torch Select Dubai.

But to be safe, please check with your developer.

NajamD
October 7th, 2008, 11:17 AM
Any news on Zumurud plz? I am getting rather confused, :nuts:anxious and impatient sitting so far away from the action!!

Morten_Denmark
October 8th, 2008, 11:10 AM
Any news on Zumurud plz? I am getting rather confused, :nuts:anxious and impatient sitting so far away from the action!!


Hi Najam

I saw that the developer announced a new launch for the remaining 1+2 beds in Zumurud - see http://imaging.gnads4u.com/images/000/030/542/731_1/orig.pdf. They stated that they are about to finish the last floor - 30th floor - which means they are about to finish the stuctural part. I dont know about prices - you have to ask them. But dont worry about anything here.

NajamD
October 8th, 2008, 12:37 PM
Thanks Morten. We are obviously getting conflicting views on Dubai property market in this time of financial turmoil in US and European markets. This is understandable. However, I am confident that Dubai will see this strom through and that Bin Hamoodah will deliver as close to promised time as possible. But then I am a chronic optimist!!:)

NajamD
October 9th, 2008, 04:12 PM
The new 1 & 2 BR apartments at Zumurud are being advertised at approx. between AED1800 - AED2200 psf. But is there anyone buying at present?

Zaid_stone
October 10th, 2008, 07:28 PM
Hi Najam

I saw that the developer announced a new launch for the remaining 1+2 beds in Zumurud - see http://imaging.gnads4u.com/images/000/030/542/731_1/orig.pdf. They stated that they are about to finish the last floor - 30th floor - which means they are about to finish the stuctural part. I dont know about prices - you have to ask them. But dont worry about anything here.

Iv noticed a RERA reg. num. in the AD, GOOD NEWS !!

Imre
October 10th, 2008, 07:55 PM
Topped out?

bizzybonita
October 10th, 2008, 08:02 PM
^^ i guess altinD is topped out elso, not only this one ! :D

Stephan23
October 11th, 2008, 02:36 PM
Please a picture to confirm, thx !

Zaid_stone
October 11th, 2008, 08:17 PM
Topped out?

Hi Imre, no appetite for photos?

Zaid_stone
October 11th, 2008, 08:54 PM
Cityscape now over, any conclusions?

Morten_Denmark
October 13th, 2008, 11:52 AM
Hi Imre, no appetite for photos?

Got some pictures from Developer - and message that the structural building has finished. Will post later

Imre
October 14th, 2008, 11:38 AM
I got the same :)

Zumurud- Structure completed- 30 floor CASTED

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8898/z1mf6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5249/z4kk7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9126/z5eh9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

view from the 25th floor

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Morten_Denmark
October 14th, 2008, 12:34 PM
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/1140/view25thms7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Nice view there :-)

dubaifirst
October 14th, 2008, 03:22 PM
Thanks Morten, do you have any idea about studio prices in the secondary market please?

NajamD
October 14th, 2008, 05:23 PM
Thnaks Morten. The view looks absolutely gorgeous from the 25th. HAs some cladding work started too?

Zaid_stone
October 14th, 2008, 06:14 PM
a giant!!
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8898/z1mf6.jpg

Morten_Denmark
October 14th, 2008, 07:32 PM
Thanks Morten, do you have any idea about studio prices in the secondary market please?

It is again Imre to thank

Morten_Denmark
October 14th, 2008, 07:47 PM
Thanks Morten, do you have any idea about studio prices in the secondary market please?

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/7273/zumurudpricesxy8.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/zumurudpricesxy8.png/1/w555.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img78/zumurudpricesxy8.png/1/)

I made this from my database I keep over Marina apartments. All offers are converted to an apartment on 17 floor - 398 sqrt - partial marina view - in order to compare prices. I would say 1 million now will be the offer. Rent could be a bit over 100.000 k AED per year if furnished. So yield is 10%. Note that these prices are offers - but if you have some patience you will find that they eventual get taken as prices still go up.

dubaifirst
October 15th, 2008, 03:34 PM
Thanks Morten, anyone who wants to sell studios can u plz e mail me.

Zaid_stone
October 15th, 2008, 07:15 PM
Selling is not allowed here!!

Morten_Denmark
October 16th, 2008, 08:02 AM
Thnaks Morten. The view looks absolutely gorgeous from the 25th. HAs some cladding work started too?

Hi Najam

None cladding work seem has started - but the internal work is in very good progress. Maybe the cladding contractor was surpriced that they topped out before shedule. I think there will be quite some work in finalising the 30 floor. Anyway, not long before we can meet up at the pool.

bizzybonita
October 16th, 2008, 04:03 PM
C/U 16/10/08


http://i34.tinypic.com/oe076.jpg

NajamD
October 16th, 2008, 04:27 PM
Hey, drinks are on me!!

Zaid_stone
October 16th, 2008, 06:41 PM
Today Sales, Dubai land Departments

Building Name Region Area Total Worth

MAG 214 Emirates Hills First 764.26 535650

MAG 214 Emirates Hills First 1322 1718600

MAG 214 Emirates Hills First 1589.88 2225832

Y11 Al Warsan First 484.38 400000

Y11 Al Warsan First 731.95 409000

Rimal-1 Marsa Dubai 1919.20 699000

Rimal-1 Marsa Dubai 1919.20 875000

Rimal-2 Marsa Dubai 1947.90 380000

Rimal-3 Marsa Dubai 756.69 299000

Rimal-3 Marsa Dubai 1443.69 599000

Rimal-3 Marsa Dubai 1443.69 599000

Rimal-4 Marsa Dubai 699.40 299000

Rimal-4 Marsa Dubai 1057.70 449000

Rimal-4 Marsa Dubai 5636.80 3970000

RIMAL-06 Marsa Dubai 2029.39 699000

SADAF-2 Marsa Dubai 1384 2500000

SADAF-4 Marsa Dubai 1447.80 599000

SADAF-4 Marsa Dubai 1797.39 699000

SADAF-5 Marsa Dubai 1447.50 599000

SADAF-5 Marsa Dubai 1447.50 599000

SADAF-5 Marsa Dubai 1447.80 599000

SADAF-5 Marsa Dubai 1797.39 4050000

SADAF-6 Marsa Dubai 1415.70 599000

SADAF-6 Marsa Dubai 1882.20 4000000

Zaid_stone
October 16th, 2008, 06:52 PM
I think their was a printing error, here some of today today transactions in Dubai land department
Construction Name Region Area Total Worth



MAG 214 Emirates Hills First 1322 1,718,600
MAG 214 Emirates Hills First 1589.88 2,225,832
Y11 Al Warsan First 484.38 400,000
SADAF-2 Marsa Dubai 1384 2,500,000
BAHAR-1 Marsa Dubai 1300.4 2,650,000
BAHAR-6 Marsa Dubai 761.2 1,500,000
BAHAR-6 Marsa Dubai 779.7 2,210,000
DIAMOND Marsa Dubai 374 850,000

NajamD
October 17th, 2008, 10:52 AM
Has anyone applied for a mortgage for Zumurud from National Bank of Abu Dhabi? They are being very mean. Apart from a very high interest rate (some 9.375%), they are now saying that they will only finance 50% LTV.

Does anyone know of any other Bank who are willing to finance a purchase in Zumurud?

Zaid_stone
October 19th, 2008, 08:27 PM
Try Mwarid Finance

Contact Details

Address: Millenium Tower
Shaikh Zayed Road

P. O. Box: 212121 Dubai, U.A.E.

Telephone: +(9714) 3040888

Toll Free: 800 MAWARID
[If you are calling from outside the UAE, please call +(9714) 3040888]

Fax : +971 4 321 9797
Email : info@mawarid.ae

AITU
October 19th, 2008, 11:25 PM
Today Sales, Dubai land Departments

Building Name Region Area Total Worth

MAG 214 Emirates Hills First 764.26 535650

MAG 214 Emirates Hills First 1322 1718600

MAG 214 Emirates Hills First 1589.88 2225832

Y11 Al Warsan First 484.38 400000

Y11 Al Warsan First 731.95 409000

Rimal-1 Marsa Dubai 1919.20 699000

Rimal-1 Marsa Dubai 1919.20 875000

Rimal-2 Marsa Dubai 1947.90 380000

Rimal-3 Marsa Dubai 756.69 299000

Rimal-3 Marsa Dubai 1443.69 599000

Rimal-3 Marsa Dubai 1443.69 599000

Rimal-4 Marsa Dubai 699.40 299000

Rimal-4 Marsa Dubai 1057.70 449000

Rimal-4 Marsa Dubai 5636.80 3970000

RIMAL-06 Marsa Dubai 2029.39 699000

SADAF-2 Marsa Dubai 1384 2500000

SADAF-4 Marsa Dubai 1447.80 599000

SADAF-4 Marsa Dubai 1797.39 699000

SADAF-5 Marsa Dubai 1447.50 599000

SADAF-5 Marsa Dubai 1447.50 599000

SADAF-5 Marsa Dubai 1447.80 599000

SADAF-5 Marsa Dubai 1797.39 4050000

SADAF-6 Marsa Dubai 1415.70 599000

SADAF-6 Marsa Dubai 1882.20 4000000

^^ Some of these were the original low prices in JBR in 2003. This shows the original owners finally registering the properties at the Land Department.

This is useful info. Can I ask where you got these statistics? Thanks

NajamD
October 20th, 2008, 06:41 PM
Try Mwarid Finance

Contact Details

Address: Millenium Tower
Shaikh Zayed Road

P. O. Box: 212121 Dubai, U.A.E.

Telephone: +(9714) 3040888

Toll Free: 800 MAWARID
[If you are calling from outside the UAE, please call +(9714) 3040888]

Fax : +971 4 321 9797
Email : info@mawarid.ae

Thanks Zaid. I'll give them a try.

Zaid_stone
October 20th, 2008, 08:06 PM
^^ Some of these were the original low prices in JBR in 2003. This shows the original owners finally registering the properties at the Land Department.

This is useful info. Can I ask where you got these statistics? Thanks

Dubai land department website

Zaid_stone
October 20th, 2008, 09:25 PM
:ohno:any body want to sale at a good discount?

NajamD
October 24th, 2008, 02:39 PM
Had an e mail from the developers yesterday. They are trying to get two more lenders interested to finance the project for their buyers. Seems to be a pretty tight squeeze in the lending market at present.

Why? When we thought that the Dubai economy is strong and there is no shortage of capital in the Banks unlike in the west!!

Morten_Denmark
October 26th, 2008, 02:26 PM
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V Kapoor
October 26th, 2008, 02:51 PM
Today Sales, Dubai land Departments

Building Name Region Area Total Worth

Rimal-3 Marsa Dubai 756.69 299000

Rimal-4 Marsa Dubai 699.40 299000

Rimal-4 Marsa Dubai 1057.70 449000

RIMAL-06 Marsa Dubai 2029.39 699000

SADAF-4 Marsa Dubai 1797.39 699000

SADAF-5 Marsa Dubai 1447.50 599000

SADAF-5 Marsa Dubai 1447.50 599000

SADAF-5 Marsa Dubai 1447.80 599000

SADAF-6 Marsa Dubai 1415.70 599000





Some of these prices are quite interesting (ofcourse these are original prices).
They are cheaper than todays International City or even Ajman prices!!

Morten_Denmark
October 26th, 2008, 02:55 PM
2 beds - high floor are still avialble.

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3797/zr1mu7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

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V Kapoor
October 26th, 2008, 02:55 PM
Hi Morten!

Zumurud Topped Out?? Or any more floors to go..... and is there another tower coming up in fromt of Zumurud on Marina side??

mackie1964
October 26th, 2008, 02:57 PM
@Morten;

Snap, I got the same email :lol::cheers:

I posted them in the Marina Section :lol:

Morten_Denmark
October 26th, 2008, 03:01 PM
Hi Morten!

Zumurud Topped Out?? Or any more floors to go..... and is there another tower coming up in fromt of Zumurud on Marina side??

Topped out - but I guess the top will take some time. Yes - Orra Marina is just in front of Zumurud - but to the left - I cant remember how high - but there is a thread. I have partial marina view so I have never looked into it :-)

Morten_Denmark
October 26th, 2008, 03:02 PM
@Morten;

Snap, I got the same email :lol::cheers:

I posted them in the Marina Section :lol:


I was just going to do that - owing you another beer - have to be a Carlsberg :-)

Zaid_stone
October 26th, 2008, 08:06 PM
WOW... Zumurud is the hot shot of the Marina

Zaid_stone
October 26th, 2008, 08:13 PM
This is my favorite view
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8277/zr5dy1.jpg

Zaid_stone
October 26th, 2008, 08:14 PM
This is my favorite view
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8277/zr5dy1.jpg

Zaid_stone
October 26th, 2008, 08:32 PM
Today transactions:
Construction Name Region Area Total Worth



AL THAYYAL-3 Emirates Hills Second 432.54 1,200,000
AMWAJ-4 Marsa Dubai 1412.4 2,826,923
THE RESIDENCES II T1 Sheikh Zayed Road 1365 4,350,000

melkor
October 27th, 2008, 12:46 PM
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo34/melkor_gds/IMG_0737.jpg?t=1225100772

NajamD
November 1st, 2008, 02:57 PM
Any news on Zumurud?

There is so much unnecessary negativity around.

Hope someone will come up with some cheerful news soon!!!

Zaid_stone
November 2nd, 2008, 08:56 PM
People are dreaming, they think they can get a studio for 500k in the Marina, if this going to happen, that means studio price will be 400k in JLT,300k in sport city, 250k in the international city,100k in Ajman and 50 k in RAK !!, then Studio rent will be 25k in the international city, and then the 1m residents living in sharjah who work in Dubai and wake up 4am every morning reach their office at 8am, will move to Dubai.

Morten_Denmark
November 2nd, 2008, 09:39 PM
People are dreaming, they think they can get a studio for 500k in the Marina, if this going to happen, that means studio price will be 400k in JLT,300k in sport city, 250k in the international city,100k in Ajman and 50 k in RAK !!, then Studio rent will be 25k in the international city, and then the 1m residents living in sharjah who work in Dubai and wake up 4am every morning reach their office at 8am, will move to Dubai.

Are someone trying to buy your studio for 500 k since you say this ? :nuts: A finished decent studio in the Marina is + 1 mill right now. Rent is just over 100 k if it is furnished and decent located within the marina.

Zaid_stone
November 6th, 2008, 05:16 PM
Any news on Zumurud?

There is so much unnecessary negativity around.

Hope someone will come up with some cheerful news soon!!!

Nakheel are selling studios for 750k in the international city, completion 2011.

Morten_Denmark
November 6th, 2008, 06:39 PM
.......-.

Zaid_stone
November 7th, 2008, 01:21 PM
-------.-

audir8
November 8th, 2008, 03:07 PM
can someone say name for 2 tower infront of Zumurud and how high many floors coming.

DubaiMina
November 9th, 2008, 07:49 AM
Orra Marina G+32, prices starting at 1680/sqft for new floor release at Property Shopper Show this week.

Morten_Denmark
November 9th, 2008, 08:09 AM
Orra Marina G+32, prices starting at 1680/sqft for new floor release at Property Shopper Show this week.

Seems like a good price for at tower in progressed construction mode and a few meters from the water.

Morten_Denmark
November 9th, 2008, 08:53 AM
Orra Marina G+32, prices starting at 1680/sqft for new floor release at Property Shopper Show this week.


I thougt Property Shopper Show was held in May ? Where did this show take place ?

THEPOINT
November 9th, 2008, 10:01 AM
Orra Marina G+32, prices starting at 1680/sqft for new floor release at Property Shopper Show this week.
"Starting at" means bottom floor Zumurud view
I would like to know Marina View prices
-"starting" 2200
aed psf ?

audir8
November 9th, 2008, 01:50 PM
it looklike it getin very dark in Zumurud, will all marina view be coverered bye these 2 tower?

Morten_Denmark
November 9th, 2008, 02:09 PM
it looklike it getin very dark in Zumurud, will all marina view be coverered bye these 2 tower?

The sides of the building will offer nice marina views - I think especially the side closest to the bridge as I believe they will not put a tower on the road - but who knows - I will not be surpriced :-)

Zaid_stone
November 10th, 2008, 05:31 PM
can someone say name for 2 tower infront of Zumurud and how high many floors coming.

tower to the right is 8 floors only

True Blue
November 12th, 2008, 11:02 PM
This is my favorite view
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8277/zr5dy1.jpg

It's also someone elses.:)
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3972/orramarinafx3.jpg (http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=orramarinafx3.jpg)

Morten_Denmark
November 13th, 2008, 01:19 AM
Zaid - I would be pissed if they stole my picture - and now also your view :-)

NajamD
November 13th, 2008, 10:44 PM
I know I might be asking a silly question but is there anyone interested in buying 2 1 BR apartments in Zumurud?

Zaid_stone
November 15th, 2008, 09:09 PM
I know I might be asking a silly question but is there anyone interested in buying 2 1 BR apartments in Zumurud?

what type and which floor?

bizzybonita
November 19th, 2008, 10:39 PM
Today

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Zaid_stone
November 20th, 2008, 06:08 PM
throw your camera!!

bizzybonita
November 20th, 2008, 06:20 PM
^^ you mean my I-phone :ohno:

Zaid_stone
November 23rd, 2008, 07:22 PM
with that quality it seems that ur phone is 1979 model.

NajamD
November 28th, 2008, 10:52 AM
Its gone all quiet on the Zumurud front. Any news guys, any new developments? Better photos??

Zaid_stone
November 28th, 2008, 02:56 PM
I have contacted the developer, still they are selling at AED 2200/sqf, but they have 50% on completion option.

Imre
December 2nd, 2008, 03:46 PM
02/December/2008

Zumurud

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Morten_Denmark
December 2nd, 2008, 05:29 PM
Nice Imre pictures - just like the old days :-)

Progress looking very fine for Zumurud.

Zaid_stone
December 2nd, 2008, 06:15 PM
One will feel comfortable with this progress compared to other projects difficulties

Imre
December 12th, 2008, 03:03 PM
some people working today as well

12/December/2008

Zumurud

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Morten_Denmark
December 12th, 2008, 03:45 PM
Anyone heard when cladding is to take place ? They should be ready now - perhaps the contractor is not.

Thanks for the fantastic photos once more Imre.

Imre
December 13th, 2008, 06:07 PM
concrete work was fast but I dont think so that it will be ready in Sept 2009.

I expect just end of 2009 or Q1 2010.

We should ask the developer , what they will say:)

Morten_Denmark
December 13th, 2008, 06:34 PM
concrete work was fast but I dont think so that it will be ready in Sept 2009.

I expect just end of 2009 or Q1 2010.

We should ask the developer , what they will say:)

I always have calculated keys from end of 2009. From Q1 2001 I believe they need to pay penalities - so Q1 might be best estimate now.

Zaid_stone
December 13th, 2008, 06:49 PM
Any news about prices? Bad news every where

Morten_Denmark
December 13th, 2008, 07:13 PM
Any news about prices? Bad news every where

Prices certainly have dropped on offplan - but no transactions here so difficult to estimate prices. I have seen some units 20 pct under summer prices. Rentals have never been higher so this is good news.

Imre
December 13th, 2008, 07:20 PM
difficult to say anything because no buyers at the moment.

From February 2009 would be better.

Zaid_stone
December 13th, 2008, 09:15 PM
I think Marina will benefit from the delay in other water front projects, but don’t u think that the termination of employees will create vacancies in Dubai and rent will go down?

Morten_Denmark
December 13th, 2008, 10:22 PM
I think Marina will benefit from the delay in other water front projects, but don’t u think that the termination of employees will create vacancies in Dubai and rent will go down?

Yes, rent most likely will go down - rents already too high. Dont worry - the Marina will keep being an attractive place in Dubai and prices will most likely always be good.

dubaifirst
December 14th, 2008, 11:31 AM
Any news about prices? Bad news every where

There is a 398sqft studio for sale on alineah website, asking price 994,500 AED, i offered 750,000 AED but the offer was refused.

charlie big potatoes
December 14th, 2008, 12:26 PM
^^^^1900 dhs psf you are a brave man.

BigMacDubai
December 14th, 2008, 04:29 PM
I always have calculated keys from end of 2009. From Q1 2001 I believe they need to pay penalities - so Q1 might be best estimate now.

October 2009 is the latest from the developer.

Imre
December 14th, 2008, 04:42 PM
There is a 398sqft studio for sale on alineah website, asking price 994,500 AED, i offered 750,000 AED but the offer was refused.

which floor ?

I found one in the Gulfnews

Zumurud. 5th floor with B.u.a. 398 sq.ft. Price negotiable. AED 724K

Imre
December 14th, 2008, 04:45 PM
^^^^1900 dhs psf you are a brave man.

why?

if he pays 750.000 AED, the rental return still more than 10%/year.

do you know similar deal?

dubaifirst
December 15th, 2008, 10:29 AM
which floor ?

I found one in the Gulfnews

Zumurud. 5th floor with B.u.a. 398 sq.ft. Price negotiable. AED 724K

It was on the 13th floor, i think its now sold.

Morten_Denmark
December 22nd, 2008, 03:29 PM
Show apartment ready in Zumurud. I like the finishing.


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Dubai_Steve
December 22nd, 2008, 03:39 PM
Looks good apart from the bathroom worktop looks like a pidgeon pooped all over it.

Beppe786
December 22nd, 2008, 04:47 PM
:lol: ^^^^ yeah your right it looks a bit shity marble affect..

but i like everything else..

Morten_Denmark
December 22nd, 2008, 04:56 PM
Looks good apart from the bathroom worktop looks like a pidgeon pooped all over it.

:lol: who knows - maybe there was a pidgeon.. Anyway, seems like the developer are delivering what he promised. That is good news these days.

Imre
December 22nd, 2008, 08:23 PM
looks good, I am happy with this.

True Blue
December 23rd, 2008, 10:06 AM
Looks good apart from the bathroom worktop looks like a pidgeon pooped all over it.

^^Tut tut,

Worktops and tiles are nice, they just don't match. Actualy I think they clash. Quality does look good though.

Imre will cover the entire wall with a big mirror so won't be a problem for him:)

I like the kitchen, this is the look I want to acheive with my wall cupboards in Jewels. They better not leave anything lying about:runaway:

Dubai_Steve
December 23rd, 2008, 12:51 PM
http://i44.tinypic.com/k4tqmb.jpg

I agree they do clash.

Morten_Denmark
December 23rd, 2008, 02:01 PM
I talked to the developer telling them I liked the interior.

They do believe that aluminium work will start in a month - and was told that the precast panels fixation already have started.

Imre
December 23rd, 2008, 04:17 PM
^^Tut tut,

Imre will cover the entire wall with a big mirror so won't be a problem for him:)



right, some mirrors will increase the size:)

dubaifirst
December 24th, 2008, 11:48 AM
The quality is excellent.

Zaid_stone
December 24th, 2008, 08:05 PM
I loved every thing, Zumurud prices will shoot if this the quality.

dubaifirst
December 25th, 2008, 03:25 PM
Zaid what do you think the price of a studio is in this current economic climate?

Zaid_stone
December 27th, 2008, 01:36 PM
Zaid what do you think the price of a studio is in this current economic climate?

Currently there is no market price, it depend on seller & buyer situation, but I can say a price of 700-850 k is reasonable in the marina and we will see many deals closed at that range in the new year.

Imre
December 27th, 2008, 06:10 PM
27/December/2008

Zumurud

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Imre
January 4th, 2009, 05:08 PM
04/January/2009

Zumurud

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Zaid_stone
January 4th, 2009, 06:41 PM
Hi Imre, how is Dubai market?

Imre
January 4th, 2009, 06:47 PM
still very bad, no transaction at all..

Zaid_stone
January 4th, 2009, 07:27 PM
whats the least price in DM sold at?

dubaifirst
January 5th, 2009, 10:26 AM
I just had a look at alineah and the average marina price for last week is around 2000AED/ sq ft !

NajamD
January 6th, 2009, 02:52 PM
I just had a look at alineah and the average marina price for last week is around 2000AED/ sq ft !

Thats very encouraging BUT are there any selling?

Imre
January 8th, 2009, 03:03 PM
08/January/2009

Zumurud

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NajamD
January 9th, 2009, 02:52 PM
Thanks for some fantastic pictures again Imre! The progress looks good!

Imre
January 13th, 2009, 04:48 PM
waiting for the glass

13/January/2009

Zumurud

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THEPOINT
January 13th, 2009, 08:02 PM
So "The Point" will finish First ?

Imre
January 13th, 2009, 08:18 PM
maybe, we will see the progress when the glass arrived.

THEPOINT
January 13th, 2009, 10:07 PM
maybe, we will see the progress when the glass arrived.

The POINT better VALUE NOW got offered one bed at 1282 aed psf today
resale (803 sq ft) don't have money so didnt ask more detail but brilliant investment for those that have spare cash

Imre
January 14th, 2009, 05:53 AM
then the Zumurud still better, I got an offer for my studios for 700.000 AED/each which is 1758 and 1871 dhs/sqft but I dont want to sell.

Studios always the best, 1-2-3 beds much cheaper dhs/sqft

Morten_Denmark
January 14th, 2009, 11:22 AM
then the Zumurud still better, I got an offer for my studios for 700.000 AED/each which is 1758 and 1871 dhs/sqft but I dont want to sell.

Studios always the best, 1-2-3 beds much cheaper dhs/sqft

No reason to sell Imre as you have paid around 70 pct already I guess - and you might recieve 2 x 90.000 Aed in 10 months time. Service charges are small as your apartment are very small.. BTW - we need to furnish them I think.

dubaifirst
January 14th, 2009, 11:30 AM
then the Zumurud still better, I got an offer for my studios for 700.000 AED/each which is 1758 and 1871 dhs/sqft but I dont want to sell.

Studios always the best, 1-2-3 beds much cheaper dhs/sqft

I had an offer in August for 800.000 AED x2 for my 2 studios but i won,t sell and in fact i am looking to buy 2 more as i believe these studios will be worth 1 million AED on completion by the end of the year and they will be very easily let out for at least 75k per year.

Morten_Denmark
January 14th, 2009, 11:46 AM
I had an offer in August for 800.000 AED x2 for my 2 studios but i won,t sell and in fact i am looking to buy 2 more as i believe these studios will be worth 1 million AED on completion by the end of the year and they will be very easily let out for at least 75k per year.

Money has to go somewhere and when deposit rates go down significant soon real estate is not a bad thing and more physical than most things - enough of this talk - sorry - 75k might also be possible - still 10 pct yield - you should opp for a monthly check payment for the tennant and I think you can get somewhat more. 6-7 k monthly seem affordable and you will be living in Dubai Marina.. Very close to the Metro - Beach - Mall/Cinema - JBR Walk... I would move in if it was possible for me to move from my country.. Tax-free heaven... In Denmark we pay around 50-60% in taxes..

dubaifirst
January 14th, 2009, 12:09 PM
You quite right Morten, a friend of mine own a studio in a tower very close to Zumurud and he rents it out for 7 k per month and he says demand for studios is very high and very easy to rent out because of the low service charges.

NajamD
January 14th, 2009, 03:39 PM
You quite right Morten, a friend of mine own a studio in a tower very close to Zumurud and he rents it out for 7 k per month and he says demand for studios is very high and very easy to rent out because of the low service charges.

Lots of activity on this thread today. Is it a day off or something??

Dubaifirst, I have sent you a PM, please have a look!

NajamD
January 14th, 2009, 03:41 PM
then the Zumurud still better, I got an offer for my studios for 700.000 AED/each which is 1758 and 1871 dhs/sqft but I dont want to sell.

Studios always the best, 1-2-3 beds much cheaper dhs/sqft

I will happily sell my 1 BRs for AED1400 psq. Any offers?

Imre
January 14th, 2009, 05:45 PM
You quite right Morten, a friend of mine own a studio in a tower very close to Zumurud and he rents it out for 7 k per month and he says demand for studios is very high and very easy to rent out because of the low service charges.

fully furnished ,we can get 8-10000 dhs/m or 85-90.000 dhs/year which is very good rental income thats why almost zero distressed sales of studios at the Dubai Marina.

Cheapest studios , Marina Diamonds and DEC Towers around 700-750.000 AED.

dubaifirst
January 14th, 2009, 07:09 PM
You quite right Imre about Studios, i just came back from Dubai and still very high demand for Studios sales and rentals. , i was surprised to know that the average asking price for 1 and 2 beds units have dropped to around 1000 AED/ sq ft, anything above this is just not selling at all.

charlie big potatoes
January 14th, 2009, 09:09 PM
The POINT better VALUE NOW got offered one bed at 1282 aed psf today
resale (803 sq ft) don't have money so didnt ask more detail but brilliant investment for those that have spare cash

I think this is a 2nd floor no view one that I was offered. You will get what you pay for.........

charlie big potatoes
January 14th, 2009, 09:10 PM
then the Zumurud still better, I got an offer for my studios for 700.000 AED/each which is 1758 and 1871 dhs/sqft but I dont want to sell.

Studios always the best, 1-2-3 beds much cheaper dhs/sqft

He means better value from a buyers point of view,.

charlie big potatoes
January 14th, 2009, 09:14 PM
Money has to go somewhere and when deposit rates go down significant soon real estate is not a bad thing and more physical than most things - enough of this talk - sorry - 75k might also be possible - still 10 pct yield - you should opp for a monthly check payment for the tennant and I think you can get somewhat more. 6-7 k monthly seem affordable and you will be living in Dubai Marina.. Very close to the Metro - Beach - Mall/Cinema - JBR Walk... I would move in if it was possible for me to move from my country.. Tax-free heaven... In Denmark we pay around 50-60% in taxes..

Your crazy Morten, leave all them Danish chicks.:nuts:

Morten_Denmark
January 14th, 2009, 09:31 PM
,,

THEPOINT
January 15th, 2009, 03:44 AM
You quite right Imre about Studios, i just came back from Dubai and still very high demand for Studios sales and rentals. , i was surprised to know that the average asking price for 1 and 2 beds units have dropped to around 1000 AED/ sq ft, anything above this is just not selling at all.
Don't agree with that statement at all !!!
can you prove it ?
I think you might be a buyer with wishfull thinking

THEPOINT
January 15th, 2009, 03:45 AM
I think this is a 2nd floor no view one that I was offered. You will get what you pay for.........Agreed CBG

dubaifirst
January 15th, 2009, 09:48 AM
Don't agree with that statement at all !!!
can you prove it ?
I think you might be a buyer with wishfull thinking

If you don,t believe me look at the gulf news, alineah or better homes websites, anything above 1000 AED especially for large one bed and 2 beds units is not shifting , things have dramatically changed since August.For obvious reasons Studios are still holding value very well , people are prepared to pay between 700 to 800 k for a tiny studio but will not pay a little bit more for a larger flat.

Imre
January 15th, 2009, 04:51 PM
this is true , studios still keep the value.

bizzybonita
January 20th, 2009, 12:11 PM
Thanks to CBP


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Imre
January 21st, 2009, 08:51 AM
still no glass, any idea when starts the cladding?

Morten_Denmark
January 21st, 2009, 11:04 AM
still no glass, any idea when starts the cladding?

3 weeks ago the developer told me cladding will start in a months time - so end of this month something should happen. If it will not happen it will be the first time in this development.

dubaifirst
January 21st, 2009, 11:49 AM
They better do! my payments used to cost me 25 k sterling every 4 months, now with the Sterling toasting its gonna be 35K.

Beppe786
January 21st, 2009, 09:27 PM
were all in the same boat regarding payments.. hopefully end of 2009 £ will recover

NajamD
January 22nd, 2009, 10:53 AM
were all in the same boat regarding payments.. hopefully end of 2009 £ will recover

Unfortunately it might be too late 4 some of us!! If the pound recovers significantly after we have sent all our payments, we will be in even deeper sh*t!!

Imre
January 22nd, 2009, 02:03 PM
still no glass but stone panels arrived

22/January/2009

Zumurud

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NajamD
January 22nd, 2009, 04:21 PM
Can anyone tell me why this developer has not tried to get approval from some of the major lenders who are still willing to lend? :ohno:

Zaid_stone
January 22nd, 2009, 05:53 PM
I got finance from NBAD

NajamD
January 22nd, 2009, 06:04 PM
I got finance from NBAD

But are you a UAE resident, as they are not now lending to overseas investors!!!

Zaid_stone
January 22nd, 2009, 06:25 PM
Yes I am, any bank give to overseas clients in uae?

NajamD
January 22nd, 2009, 06:47 PM
Not any more. However that was not the case when some of us booked these apartments!!! How times and rules change!!!! some peolple just make the rules as they go along......

Zaid_stone
January 22nd, 2009, 07:13 PM
you will never know what will happen within 3 months !!

NajamD
January 22nd, 2009, 07:15 PM
you will never know what will happen within 3 months !!

I hope something good and positive..... But I am a REALIST!!! 3 months is too short a space of time!!!

Imre
January 22nd, 2009, 07:16 PM
you will never know what will happen within 3 months !!

I hope the cladding will start:)

Zaid_stone
January 22nd, 2009, 07:21 PM
but stone cladding already started, you mean aluminume and glazing works.

Imre
January 22nd, 2009, 07:29 PM
yes, but where is the glass , something has been changed?

stone cladding in full progress!

NajamD
January 23rd, 2009, 11:25 AM
Imre, any idea where the rentals would be in October/ Nov 2009 (assuming the completion and delivery is on time) for 1 BR apartments in Zumurud?

Zaid_stone
January 23rd, 2009, 12:24 PM
Just I have rented new 1BR, in Nahdah Dubai for 80 k +++,I pay 5 k for car park & 4 k service charge & 5 k commision, so Dubai Marina one bed cant go less than 120 k, as an average.

dubaifirst
January 23rd, 2009, 01:29 PM
My realistic estimate is Studio 60 -70 k, I bed 80-90 K, 2 bed 100-110 k.

Imre
January 23rd, 2009, 04:01 PM
I think rent will be high in this year in Dubai Marina .

Why? How many towers will be ready in this year? 1-2

NajamD
January 23rd, 2009, 07:13 PM
Thank you for your replies. Of course, no one has a crystal ball to know exactly how things will shape up in the next 8-9 months but your opinions really matter. I need to know if it will make good financial sense to keep the 5 apartments I have in this development. I think we have to be mindful of the fact that any increased demand due to lack of completed towers will be offset by the invariable job losses specially in the finance and real estate sectors reducing demand.

On the mortgage side, I believe that the developers themselves should finance the project for those investors unable to arrange mortgage due to current climate as a 50% loan which could be paid off in monthly installments after completion and delivery with interest of course. Any views?

dubaifirst
January 23rd, 2009, 07:27 PM
5 eggs in one basket!

NajamD
January 23rd, 2009, 07:31 PM
5 eggs in one basket!

5 but not all!!!

True Blue
January 24th, 2009, 01:11 PM
Thank you for your replies. Of course, no one has a crystal ball to know exactly how things will shape up in the next 8-9 months but your opinions really matter. I need to know if it will make good financial sense to keep the 5 apartments I have in this development. I think we have to be mindful of the fact that any increased demand due to lack of completed towers will be offset by the invariable job losses specially in the finance and real estate sectors reducing demand.

On the mortgage side, I believe that the developers themselves should finance the project for those investors unable to arrange mortgage due to current climate as a 50% loan which could be paid off in monthly installments after completion and delivery with interest of course. Any views?

Developers never arranged finance for themselves as they were able to bank roll the project from investors payment schedules. There was nothing to suggest that investors would hit cash flow problems and that the market for offplans would evaporate overnight. Now the developers can't get the funding from the banks as the banks want to avoid risks at the moment.

Zaid_stone
January 24th, 2009, 06:16 PM
I think that market will reverse once the new property visa law released.

NajamD
January 25th, 2009, 12:35 PM
I think that market will reverse once the new property visa law released.

And when is that likely to be?

NajamD
January 25th, 2009, 01:03 PM
Developers never arranged finance for themselves as they were able to bank roll the project from investors payment schedules. There was nothing to suggest that investors would hit cash flow problems and that the market for offplans would evaporate overnight. Now the developers can't get the funding from the banks as the banks want to avoid risks at the moment.

I think I didn't make myself very clear. What I meant was that if there is a balance of 50% left over at the time of completion, which can't be met with a mortgage, the developer could provide that as a loan (as suggested by Emaar earlier) to the investor that could be paid back on a monthly basis with the going interest rate. This would help the problem of lack of liquidity in the market for the investor. For the developer, it ensures that people would not be walking away from their investments leaving them with lots of apartments that they will not be able to sell. It would also be good for property market overall.

Zaid_stone
January 25th, 2009, 09:38 PM
And when is that likely to be?

Its expected any time as a final solution to Dubai real estate market:master:

NajamD
January 26th, 2009, 12:44 PM
Its expected any time as a final solution to Dubai real estate market:master:

I certainly do hope so!!

I it might also help to stop all the negative sentiments in the market, the picture of doom and gloom that everyone is painting and literally TALKING the market down.

Imre
January 29th, 2009, 01:16 PM
I think glass coming soon,maybe tomorrow?

Some furniture staff already there, kitchen or wardrobes?

29/January/2009

Zumurud Tower

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NajamD
January 29th, 2009, 02:19 PM
Thnx Imre, fantastic pictures yet again. Very re-assuring! I check this thread at least 3 times a day to see if Imre has posted some new pictures. Well done and keep it up!!:applause:

dubaifirst
January 29th, 2009, 02:29 PM
Very good progress,it should boost the value of your apartments Najam,Do u think end of the year is a realistic completion date?

Imre
January 29th, 2009, 02:51 PM
maybe end 2009 is still possible but we have to see the progress of the cladding, if the progress fast this year is ok if not just in 2010.
good sign that some furniture arrived.

last 2-3 weeks I didnt see any offer in the resale market of the Zumurud.

dubaifirst
January 29th, 2009, 05:05 PM
Imre, thanks for the update, there are few one beds available for sale at alineah but no studios at all.

NajamD
January 30th, 2009, 11:30 AM
Very good progress,it should boost the value of your apartments Najam,Do u think end of the year is a realistic completion date?

I don't know if end 2009 is a realistic completion date; probably you guys know better than me. However, I had a chat with the GM of Bin Hamoodah 2 weeks ago and he reassured me that the project was on track for completion as planned. They were not anticipating any delays...

Zaid_stone
January 30th, 2009, 01:21 PM
My information from Bin Hamoodah handing over will start on Oct. 2009, they told every thing now in place, AC chillers fixed , lifts installation under progress and more important aluminume works started.

Imre
January 30th, 2009, 07:04 PM
I saw good progress of the aluminium works , few floors at the west side almost done.

I think, once the glass arrives the cladding will be very fast.

Joannides
February 1st, 2009, 08:38 AM
^^
i went past Zumerud last night and noticed that theyve started fitting some glass on the side of the building.

Morten_Denmark
February 1st, 2009, 01:10 PM
My information from Bin Hamoodah handing over will start on Oct. 2009, they told every thing now in place, AC chillers fixed , lifts installation under progress and more important aluminume works started.

October is too soon - I will not be in Dubai before December... But lets see - finializing last issues always takes longer time than planned..

Thanks again again to Imre for the updates.

Imre
February 1st, 2009, 01:43 PM
^^
i went past Zumerud last night and noticed that theyve started fitting some glass on the side of the building.


I saw today, that is just the old facade test, still no glass but aluminium works fast.

SmithWesson
February 3rd, 2009, 01:23 PM
Hamoodah guys have proved to be one of the most reliable developers in Marina. Me no have any problems investing in them. And now for something completely different - have anyone ever heard of Zumurud escrow account? :lol:
Whereas Marina Star has escrow account :bash:

Imre
February 3rd, 2009, 01:30 PM
I dont care about the escrow account, they have money this is more important for me.

They have 30floors, Marina Star still has just a hole.What are you doing with the escrow account there?

dubaifirst
February 3rd, 2009, 02:46 PM
Hamoodah guys have proved to be one of the most reliable developers in Marina. Me no have any problems investing in them. And now for something completely different - have anyone ever heard of Zumurud escrow account? :lol:
Whereas Marina Star has escrow account :bash:

Bin Hammodah properties have a very good track record in Abu Dhabi and Zumurud project will be completed in time because iam told that they have no cash flow problems, in fact the developer still holds several units which will be sold at completion including studios. If Botancia Studios which haven't even started are changing hands now at 1 million, then Zumurud Studios must be worth 1.2 now and 1.5 on completion.

dubaifirst
February 3rd, 2009, 02:50 PM
OK Imre, what do you think a studio in Zumurud is worth?

Imre
February 3rd, 2009, 02:51 PM
would you buy for 1.2 million?:) I dont think so.

I doubt the 1 million for Botanica, when will be ready after 5-10 years?

Imre
February 3rd, 2009, 02:57 PM
1-1.1 million :)

but if I want to sell for 900K , I cant

Dubai_Steve
February 3rd, 2009, 03:24 PM
Zumurud Studios must be worth 1.2 now and 1.5 on completion.

What do you prefer 2 bed in marinascape for 1.7m or a studio in Zurumud for 1.5m? I think you have to wait for all the bargins and defaulted property to be bought first and for finance to come back to the market. Maybe in 2 years it will be possible to sell at a reasonable value again.

dubaifirst
February 3rd, 2009, 09:22 PM
I prefer 2 bed in marinascape for 1.7 but how do you find one for this price Steve?

charlie big potatoes
February 3rd, 2009, 09:34 PM
What do you prefer 2 bed in marinascape for 1.7m or a studio in Zurumud for 1.5m? I think you have to wait for all the bargins and defaulted property to be bought first and for finance to come back to the market. Maybe in 2 years it will be possible to sell at a reasonable value again.


Steve you keep quoting this MS at 1.7m why dont you just buy it man and be done with. I will tell you why, because it aint there. There is one in HORIZON at that price and you can get it for 1.55 if you got some folding.

SmithWesson
February 4th, 2009, 01:24 PM
These fantastic guys are behind GMC dealership in AUH and OASIS water brand. There are no cash flow problems

2 BR+M 1500+ sqft1.9M, very soft payment plan

NajamD
February 6th, 2009, 02:22 PM
Does anyone know if there are any bargains out there for 1 BR completed unit in marina? A friend of mine wants to buy one!! Cash buyer....:nuts:

Imre
February 9th, 2009, 12:24 PM
still no glass

09/February/2009

Zumurud

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Morten_Denmark
February 9th, 2009, 04:14 PM
Seems like very little progress and a small number of workers. Seems like my chrismas handover date will hold - or even slip !

Imre
February 9th, 2009, 05:05 PM
only question, which christmas:)

Do you have any info about the glass?

Morten_Denmark
February 9th, 2009, 11:46 PM
only question, which christmas:)

Do you have any info about the glass?

Dosent matter what christmas - still best time for me to get on vacation :) I will ask about glass tomorrow - I will let you know..

Zaid_stone
February 11th, 2009, 08:58 PM
after opining the new bridge near Zumurud, the locatin became more atractive, just 5 minutes walking to the beach....

Zaid_stone
February 11th, 2009, 08:59 PM
still the one bed renting for 110 +

Zaid_stone
February 11th, 2009, 09:01 PM
Imre , why u r worried about the glass?

bizzybonita
February 11th, 2009, 09:03 PM
^^ :hilarious

Imre
February 11th, 2009, 09:18 PM
Imre , why u r worried about the glass?

not worried, just waiting for the glass:)

:cheers:

Morten_Denmark
February 12th, 2009, 11:26 AM
not worried, just waiting for the glass:)

:cheers:

I have not heard anything yet. What about the roof construction - anyone have an opinion how far this is from being done ?

Imre
February 12th, 2009, 01:13 PM
I saw the site today , the old glass (facade test) removed and nothing new.

anyway good progress of the aluminium works and the stone panel cladding.

Joannides
February 12th, 2009, 04:43 PM
I saw the site today , the old glass (facade test) removed and nothing new.

anyway good progress of the aluminium works and the stone panel cladding.


i saw the start of the stone panel cladding also. i think this building is gonna look great!

Zaid_stone
February 12th, 2009, 05:39 PM
i saw the start of the stone panel cladding also. i think this building is gonna look great!

So that means Imre should post something nice...

Imre
February 13th, 2009, 02:20 PM
So that means Imre should post something nice...

yes but where is the glass?:) :cheers:

13/February/2009

Zumurud

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Morten_Denmark
February 13th, 2009, 04:15 PM
I think that many of the developers are seeking new contracts as prices may have dropped - just my imagination - but this might be the issue here regarding the glass.

Zaid_stone
February 14th, 2009, 06:59 PM
Glass is not critical as the aluminum, by seeing these great photos Imre, it’s clear that handing over end of year is determined by the developer.

Zaid_stone
February 14th, 2009, 07:02 PM
Good color choice for the stone, I hope that the glass is blue, not green
:lol:

Imre
February 15th, 2009, 06:43 PM
I spoke the developer today, dont worry about the glass, already arrived, blue.

First of all they are doing the aluminium works, stone panels cladding , glass cladding just later.

Completion date is still end of 2009, we will see.

bizzybonita
February 16th, 2009, 10:16 AM
^^ From you're last trip to Dubai Marina ... Did you notice any sign of Installation frames and glass cladding there .

" Marina Wharf I " :)

Imre
February 17th, 2009, 03:34 PM
17/February/2009

Zumurud

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Zaid_stone
February 17th, 2009, 10:00 PM
Building is so nice, more than expected

Zaid_stone
February 22nd, 2009, 07:12 PM
where is every body?

NajamD
February 23rd, 2009, 12:11 PM
OK. Just come back from Dubai. Saw the building, looks great, progress good. Went up the stairs to see my apartments. Generally very good finish but I was not happy with the choice of tiles in the bathrooms which I think clashes with the work top. Told the contractors about it. They said that that we have to speak to Bin Hamoodah direct and then it could be changed; perhaps. Spoke to the contractors about various issues, including completion and delivery. It all seems to be going according to plan and subject to DEWA connections etc. hopefully end of the year or at worst Jan/ Feb 2010, which I think is still pretty good. It seems that the contractors have been paid up front for this job so they are going full steam ahead and have drafted in extra labour to finish on time. Unfortunately couldn't take any pictures but they would not have been any different from what Imre has already posted recently!

Morten_Denmark
February 23rd, 2009, 12:14 PM
OK. Just come back from Dubai. Saw the building, looks great, progress good. Went up the stairs to see my apartments. Generally very good finish but I was not happy with the choice of tiles in the bathrooms which I think clashes with the work top. Told the contractors about it. They said that that we have to speak to Bin Hamoodah direct and then it could be changed; perhaps. Spoke to the contractors about various issues, including completion and delivery. It all seems to be going according to plan and subject to DEWA connections etc. hopefully end of the year or at worst Jan/ Feb 2010, which I think is still pretty good. It seems that the contractors have been paid up front for this job so they are going full steam ahead and have drafted in extra labour to finish on time. Unfortunately couldn't take any pictures but they would not have been any different from what Imre has already posted recently!

Many thanks Najam for the good update.

apradhan
February 24th, 2009, 04:44 PM
Got this email from Zumurud. They seem very confident for completion and handover date.


Dear clients , be ready for handing over, by end of this year , as per program, for the first time in Dubai!!

This is what we do in Bin Hamoodah properties, deliver in the hard times, this is our strength.

Thank you

Reyad Yakot

General Manager

P. O. Box: 203 Abu Dhabi
United Arab Emirate
Mobile: 00971506612889
Fax: 009712 6261386
E-mail : reyad@binhamoodah.ae
www.zumurud.com
www.binhamoodahproperties.ae

Zaid_stone
February 24th, 2009, 07:29 PM
Got the same, I think 1st quarter of 2010 is more realistic.

apradhan
February 24th, 2009, 11:14 PM
Property advertised in Betterhomes

Apartment - Zumurud
An investment for capital growth
Ref No: AP71719
Location: Dubai, Marina Emirates Living District, Dubai Marina
Approx. size: 374.4 sq.ft
Floor no. 19th
Approx. price AED 599,220
View: Marina
Completion date September 2009

Imre
February 27th, 2009, 01:30 PM
27/February/2009

Zumurud

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Zaid_stone
February 27th, 2009, 02:14 PM
WOW, these guys are serious!!
Great shots Imre, finally the glass arrived, beautiful color.

Imre
February 27th, 2009, 03:53 PM
very nice glass , much better than the old facade test :)