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waj0527

February 17th, 2006, 09:28 PM

Other Baltimore forumers (or whomever else) are welcome to add on.

http://www.arcwheeler.com/projects/10innerharbor/414lightstreet_2_lrg.jpg

10 Inner Harbor - 59 stories (717 ft.)
Location: 414 Light Street at Conway St. (Inner Harbor)
Developer: ARC Wheeler Group
Total Investment: $300 million
Completion Date: N/A
Uses: 285 condo units, 192-room hotel, ground and second level retail, grocery store, resturants
Status: Approved

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The Zenith - 22 stories
Location: W. Paca Street at Pratt Street (Camden Yards/Westside)
Developer: Karchem Properties
Total Investment: $46 million
Completion Date: June 07
Uses: 191 luxury rental units, 6000 RSF ground level retail
Status: Under Construction

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701 E. Baltimore Street @ Market Place Metro Station - 34 stories
Location: 701 E. Baltimore Street (City Center)
Developer: The Cordish Company
Total Investment: $70 million
Completion Date: N/A
Uses: 250 luxury units (125 condos/125 rental), 400-space above ground garage, 50,000sf of retail space including a Lucky Strike.
Status: Approved

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Twelve09 North Charles - 6 stories
http://www.sberspace.com/aegon_rendering.html

http://www.twelve09living.com/
Location: 1209 N. Charles Street (Mt. Vernon)
Developer: SBER
Total Investment: $42 million
Completion Date: 2007
Uses: 88 condo units, 16500sq ground level retail, parking
Status: Under Contruction

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http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/files/pdf/rfp/upload/414_water_street_condos.jpg
Water Tower - 32 stories
http://www.414waterstreet.com/
Location: 414 Water Street (City Center)
Developer: LH Water Toner, LLC
Total Investment: $65 million
Completion Date: 2007
Uses: 312 condo units, 6000sq ground level retail, 10-story above ground parking
Status: Under Construction

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http://www.charlesvillageprojects.com/PDFs/WatercolorRendering.pdf
Charles Commons - 10 stories
http://www.charlesvillageprojects.com
Location: St. Paul St. and 33rd St. (Charles Village)
Developer: Struever Bros. Eccles & Rouse
Total Investment: $75 million
Completion Date: 9/2006
Use: 618 beds of student housing, a state-of-art dining facility, student amenity space and a full-service Barnes & Noble bookstore.
Status: Completed

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http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/files/pdf/rfp/upload/300-E-Pratt.jpg
300 E. Pratt Street - 35 stories
Location: 300 East Pratt Street (Inner Harbor)
Developer: 300 E. Pratt Street, LP
Total Investment: $100 million
Completion Date: N/A
Use: Office space, 250 luxury residential units, 500-space above ground garage, 16000sf ground level retail.
Status: Approved

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Village Loft - 5 stories
http://www.charlesvillageprojects.com
Location: 3200 St. Paul St. (East) (Charles Village)
Developer: Struever Bros. Eccles & Rouse
Total Investment: $51 million
Completion Date: 12/2007
Use: 68 for-sale residential units, 12,500 square feet of retail & restaurant space, and 68 parking spaces.
Status: completed

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Ritz-Carlton Residences, Inner Harbor, Baltimore- 7 stories
Location: 207 Key Hwy (Inner Harbor)
Developer: Midtown Baltimore LLC
Total Investment: $100 million+
Completion Date: 2007
Use: Luxury condo units, on-site parking and resturant
Status: Under construction

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The Olmstead - 9 stories
http://www.charlesvillageprojects.com
Location: 3200 St. Paul St. (West) (Charles Village)
Developer: Struever Bros. Eccles & Rouse
Total Investment: $51 million
Completion Date: N/A
Use: 82 for-sale residential units, 28,000 square feet of retail and restaurant space and 575-space public parking garage.
Status: Approved

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Hilton Baltimore Convention Center (Camden Yards) - 20 stories
Location: Pratt Street at Howard Street
Developer: RLJ Development, LLC and Quadrangle Development Corporation
Total Investment: $305 million
Completion Date: 2008
Use: 752-room first-class, full-service Convention Center-oriented Headquarters Hotel
Status: Under Construction

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Four Seasons Hotel and Residences (44 stories) and Legg Mason World Headqarters Tower(24 stories)
Location: Aliceanna Street (Harbor East)
Developer: H&S Properties Development Corp
Total Investment: $550 million
Completion Date: N/A
Uses: 200 5-star hotel rooms, an unnamed number of private residences, 25000sq ground level retail including three resturants, 1200 parking spaces, 500K office space.
Status: U/C

waj0527

February 17th, 2006, 09:37 PM

There are many more...Im sure other will add to this list.

Dale

February 17th, 2006, 09:41 PM

Thanks, waj. I knew a lot was going on. But I've been dying to see a series of renderings like this.

StevenW

February 17th, 2006, 10:30 PM

I'll try to find some more projects with renderings. :)

fluffyhorse

February 18th, 2006, 01:42 AM

Here is a bit more

Clipper Mill
3500 Clipper Road

Under Construction

http://sberspace.com/_images/clipperMill_img.jpg

http://sberspace.com/clipperMill.html
http://www.clippermill.net/

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400 West Baltimore
407-425 West Baltimore Street

http://davidsbrown.com/images/photo-400-west-baltimore.jpg

Six stories with a total of 130,000 sq.ft. Class A office space Potential of two-story retail Excellent exposure and visibility Located in the heart of Baltimore’s Educational and Cultural District

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Chesapeake Square

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CLIENT: Tower Hill Development
PROJECT TYPE: Mixed-Use
COMPLETION DATE: Est. 2008
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Greektown Residential Project

Proposed
http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/photo/2005-04/16950660.jpg

http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/graphic/2005-04/16952633.gif

$200 million transformation; More than 1,000 condos, townhouses

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The rendering for 1209 North Charles
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fluffyhorse

February 18th, 2006, 02:08 AM

University of Maryland BioPark
Under Construction

800 and 900 blocks of West Baltimore Street
$300 million biotechnology park
seven buildings totaling approximately 800,000 square feet of lab and office space,
25,000 square feet of open space, and two parking garages with ground floor retail.

http://www.baltimorehousing.org/showcase/biopark.jpg

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East Baltimore Life Sciences and Technology Park

New 20-acre research park
2 million s.f. of biotech lab and office space planned
150,000 square feet retail
Part of an 80-acre, $800 million redevelopment initiative

http://www.baltimorehousing.org/showcase/ebdi.jpg
http://www.choosemaryland.org/assets/image/LifeSciences&TechnologyPark.jpg

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/1146/boardsnebc1lg3fb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

waj0527

February 18th, 2006, 02:40 AM

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First Mariner Bank Headquaters Tower - 17 stories
http://www.cantoncrossing.com/
Location: Boston Street (Canton)
Developer: Ed Hale
Total Investment: N/A
Completion Date: 2006
Uses: Class-A office spce
Status: Under Construction

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The Vue - 28 stories
http://www.vueharboreastcondos.com
Location: President Street and Aliceanna Street. (Harbor East)
Total Investment: N/A
Uses: 28 story condo tower with mixed-use base. 150-room hotel, 7-screen movie theater, above ground parking, retail, retail, retail!!!
Status: Under Construction

waj0527

February 18th, 2006, 02:48 AM

http://www.harborviewcommunity.com/pierhomes/photos/pier_homes_street.jpg
http://www.harborviewcommunity.com/pierhomes/pierhomes.html
Pierhomes - Residences at Harborview
Use: 88-townhomes built directly on the water.
Status: Under Construction

kazpmk

February 18th, 2006, 05:58 AM

great projects. Did 414 Water Street begin construction in 2005 or 2006?

Second, I heard that 1st Marinar Tower would be 330 ft from another forumer. Has anyone else heard that??

Baltimoreguy

February 18th, 2006, 10:29 AM

StevenW

February 18th, 2006, 03:36 PM

^^ MAN! You guys are doing an OUTSTANDING job at posting all of these developments! Thanks! You guys are beating me to the punch! I'm so glad there are so many Baltimore forumers now! :) :tear falls from his eye:

waj0527

February 18th, 2006, 07:13 PM

The 1st Marnier Tower is 330 Feet tall. It is nearly completed and 80% leased. In a couple of months three more towers about 300 feet tall each next to it will begin with 505 Condominiums. It is supposed to be nearly sold out before construction begins. About 6 blocks away The ICON will be 30 floors and 295 feet tall. This Baltimore City neighborhood(Canton) is booming. Just wait to see the westport waterfront development with between 1,200 and 1,500 units. It has already been approved for 500+ foot tall towers. Most likely it will be 3 towers. 414 Water Street begin about a month ago.
The 1st Mariner tower is god awful. It just looks like something that should be in some office park in the in Columbia or Owings Mills or something. Im not very impressed with the Canton Crossing development at all. sure, Im glad the waterfront is being developed along Boston Street, but the only buildings Im looking forward to there are the Midtown Canton condo towers. I tried to find renderings of them, but I havent been able to of late.

StevenW

February 18th, 2006, 11:05 PM

http://www.ariumarchitects.com/arium%20images/Projects/CFH-Canton%20Crossing/CantonTower-OctagonLouvers2.jpg

I'll try to find the apartment towers. :D

fluffyhorse

February 19th, 2006, 02:19 AM

Canton Crossing

Other Parts
A hotel with up to 450 rooms
150,000 square foot Cruise Ship Terminal
The promenade will be extended from it's current endpoint

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3735/ksi056a3d049ta.jpg

cantoncrossing.com
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Icon at Canton

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/4616/icon4xz.jpg

http://iconatcanton.com/

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Harborpoint

http://sberspace.com/harborPoint.html

Total Site:
27 acres

Total Square Footage Per Building:
9 buildings at 200,000 sf average

Space Available:
Office = 1.8 million sf
Retail = 100,000 sf

Parking:
3 spaces per 1,000 sf

Date Available:
Spring 2006

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http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/2940/getimage0jv.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/569/harborpointimg6zj.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/23/image26wq6kn.jpg

StevenW

February 19th, 2006, 04:34 AM

Awesome! Thanks, fluffyhorse! :)

waj0527

February 19th, 2006, 04:53 AM

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8582/getimage10om.jpg

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/2940/getimage0jv.jpg

ive never seen these renderings before....i like harborpoint a lot....i wish Harboreast finishes up so SBER can start on it.

StevenW

February 19th, 2006, 03:31 PM

fanofterps

February 19th, 2006, 05:11 PM

with bowling, games, batting cages,lazer tag etc.. would be great.

The movie idea may not work unless it was classic movies or a Senator type theater. I did hear recently that the Vue will have 9 theaters(assume most will show foreign films). Lucky Strike Bowling will be great for the Cordish Tower.

^^ I wish that Harbor Point would add an entertainment portion to their plans. I say add a building a lot like what is being shown that has a multi-entertainment complex inside. Bowling, video games/virtual games, skating, inline skate park and lazer tag of some sort. Maybe across the street have another movie complex. Add some interesting/very different retail components than seen in the city so far. Having that, with the proposed park space would bring a lot of locals as well as tourists to that area. :) Yes? No?

waj0527

February 19th, 2006, 06:57 PM

^^ I wish that Harbor Point would add an entertainment portion to their plans. I say add a building a lot like what is being shown that has a multi-entertainment complex inside. Bowling, video games/virtual games, skating, inline skate park and lazer tag of some sort. Maybe across the street have another movie complex. Add some interesting/very different retail components than seen in the city so far. Having that, with the proposed park space would bring a lot of locals as well as tourists to that area. :) Yes? No?

I couldnt agree with you more. However, I have a feeling that SBER doesnt wanna go that route. I really think that a first-run movie multiplex wouldve worked well in that neighborhood, but they decided to go an 'upscale' moviehouse. I think stores like GAP wouldve worked, but they chose to sign Banna Republic. Another Hilton or whatever wouldve worked, but they decided to go with Four Seasons. I think SBER is attempting to do something decidedly upscale which caters to yuppies and empty nesters.

Maybe Cordish will heed your advice, change his tower from 34 stories to 38 stories and add a larger entertainment component. I think it would work well there too.

ReddAlert

February 19th, 2006, 07:02 PM

that new tall is awesome and I really like that red "Jetsons" like tower with the bowling alley.

The waterfront is also going to look even more nice.

fluffyhorse

February 19th, 2006, 10:59 PM

Harbor East Aerial

http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/5985/image15kf4zm.jpg

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New Pediatrics Tower for Johns Hopkins Hospital

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Maryland Institute College of Art (MICA) Residence hall

12 stories
1601 Mount Royal Avenue
200 Unit residence hall

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University of Baltimore Student Center

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34A Key Highway

James M. Jost & Company
72 condos and several levels of parking

http://pfarc.com/images/070/02.jpg
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http://pfarc.com/34akey.html
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Westin at the Center

(Proposed)
755 new-build rooms in Downtown Baltimore.
32 specialty suites
54,000 sf meeting space
4,600 sf restaurant space
16,500 sf retail space
20,000 sf cafe and outdoor terrace
indoor pool
health club

http://pfarc.com/westin.html

http://pfarc.com/images/060/01.jpg

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http://pfarc.com/images/060/03.jpg

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Harbor Tower
(Proposed)

28 Story Building
2 floors of retail, 15 floors of hotel space, and 8 floors of residential

http://img498.imageshack.us/img498/3350/harbortower30og.jpg

http://img498.imageshack.us/img498/710/harbortower1ia.jpg

http://brownandcraig.com/

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Eutaw Square
(Proposed)

http://img498.imageshack.us/img498/1976/eutawsquare0ip.jpg

http://img427.imageshack.us/img427/2506/eutawsquare26nx.jpg

http://img427.imageshack.us/img427/8389/eutawsquare31an.jpg

http://brownandcraig.com/

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St James Place Renovation/Development

305 through 319 West Franklin Streets and 408 through 424 North Howard Streets

historic properties
mixed-use community
Landscaped courtyards
retail alley and parking garage

http://img14.imagevenue.com/loc150/th_32584_st_james_place_aerial.jpg

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1808/stjamesplacecorner2fh.jpg

StevenW

February 19th, 2006, 11:18 PM

:eek2: OUTSTANDING, fluffyhorse! :eek2: Thanks! :)

StevenW

February 19th, 2006, 11:21 PM

that new tall is awesome and I really like that red "Jetsons" like tower with the bowling alley.

The waterfront is also going to look even more nice.
Thanks, ReddAlert! :)

StevenW

February 19th, 2006, 11:32 PM

I couldnt agree with you more. However, I have a feeling that SBER doesnt wanna go that route. I really think that a first-run movie multiplex wouldve worked well in that neighborhood, but they decided to go an 'upscale' moviehouse. I think stores like GAP wouldve worked, but they chose to sign Banna Republic. Another Hilton or whatever wouldve worked, but they decided to go with Four Seasons. I think SBER is attempting to do something decidedly upscale which caters to yuppies and empty nesters.

Maybe Cordish will heed your advice, change his tower from 34 stories to 38 stories and add a larger entertainment component. I think it would work well there too.
I wonder if Cordish might listen to some suggestions? He seems to be the one to go to when it concerns entertainment. :)
Yes, there is some bowling coming. Yes, theatres too. And there are Dave and Busters coming and the ESPNZone for video games and all. BUT, I really think Baltimore developers NEED to go the route of a world-class indoor skate park. Bucky Lasek, (one of thee greatest skateboarders ever), is from Baltimore and wears his O's cap to almost all the X-Games events. If there was an indoor skatepark unlike any other ever created, perhaps it could not only be a draw for tourism but for kids, (of all ages of course), to come and skate and watch others skate. And maybe with it an "X-Games" may land in Baltimore! That would up Baltimore's "cool" factor well off the charts! :D
But don't make just a skatepark. No. Make a skatepark surrounded by seating with tables in some areas. Have a huge "cafe" of some sort. A LOT like the Hardrock Cafe experience. Have a little stage somewhere so musicians can come to play while people either skate or watch others. The park would consist of a huge street course, (not the average design, mind you), a half-pipe and one huge "Big Air" ramp! Think of the potential for locals, especially the younger kids, who could go there and skate, get really good, then one day compete in an X-Game event! :D
A lot of people may not watch or get into the X-Games, but, it's a growing sport and very, very marketable! ;)
Whew! :D

waj0527

February 20th, 2006, 12:39 AM

Fluffyhorse...a couple of those proposals have been canned. Harbor Tower was canned because of a lack of need for class-A space. The most recent 'state of downtown' address indicates that the market is improving....so there's still hope maybe. The Westin proposal didnt win. The RLJ Hilton (which is currently under construction) bumped this proposal. I have a feeling we can expect big things from that Conway Street lot though. With the pending development of 10 Inner Harbor, I think more developers will go bigger and more grand...particularly on the westside of the skyline. 34A Key Hwy just lost momentum.

fluffyhorse

February 20th, 2006, 07:54 AM

fluffyhorse

February 20th, 2006, 08:14 AM

Union Wharf

901 - 933 South Wolfe Street

http://www.unionboxcompany.com/staging/default.asp?id=10

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/9425/wharf14ul.jpg

http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/1875/wharf43pw.jpg

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/3546/wharf50im.jpg

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/1379/wharf64me.jpg

* $75,000,000.00 mixed-use project that will include 80 loft condominiums, 70 rental apartments, 50 marina slips and 110,000SF of office and retail space.
* one of the last vacant tracts of land surrounding the harbor
* combination of restored historic wharf building and retro-styled new buildings

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Recreation Pier Conversion

JJ Clarke Enterprises
178 boutique hotel rooms

http://pfarc.com/recpier.html http://pfarc.com/images/059/01.jpg

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The Pinnacle at Harborview

http://www.lubertadler.com/uploads/HarborviewPinnaclesmall.jpg

*Improved site with underground parking in place
*Zoning and infrastructure permit 300+/- unit mid rise development
*Current plan calls for a 47-unit, 17 floor mid-rise condominium building, to be known as "The Pinnacle"
*Additional 250+/- unit mid-rise building may be built at a later date

http://www.lubertadler.com/CaseHarb-1804.html
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StevenW

February 20th, 2006, 11:55 AM

^^ Nice. :)

waj0527

February 20th, 2006, 08:34 PM

I wish Clarke finds funding for the Rec. Pier hotel project. I really hate seeing that thing just sitting there.

DCKenny

February 23rd, 2006, 08:58 PM

Nice pictures!!

MasonsInquiries

February 23rd, 2006, 10:17 PM

these projects are BEEE-YOU-TI-FUL!!!!!!

Dale

February 23rd, 2006, 10:47 PM

What's the status on Harbor East ? Is all that u/c ?

FASSE3

February 23rd, 2006, 11:23 PM

THE CITY OF BALTIMORE I LIKE... SEEMS AN EUROPEAN CITY UN GREETING

MasonsInquiries

February 24th, 2006, 02:32 AM

What's the status on Harbor East ? Is all that u/c ?
Yep.

wada_guy

February 24th, 2006, 06:34 PM

RITZ CARLTON CONSTRUCTION IS IN THE FOREGROUND. INNER HARBOR EAST CONSTRUCTION IS ACROSS THE HARBOR (2 YELLOW CRANES & 1 WHITE CRANE). TWIN FOUR SEASONS TOWERS TO START VERY SOON IN FRONT OF THE TWO YELLOW CRANES!

http://www.baltimoreguy.com/images/Photographs%20Balto%202006%20Page%2006%2022.jpg

StevenW

February 25th, 2006, 12:02 AM

Baltimore is, Hot! Hot! Hot! ;)

Dale

February 25th, 2006, 12:05 AM

Man, Harbor East is Baltimore's Canary Wharf !

waj0527

February 28th, 2006, 05:15 PM

The Ritz-Carlton Residences look to be making some progress. The Vue is also coming along nicely.

Hopefully the Four Seasons will start in late-Spring/early-Summer as planned.

PeterSmith

March 1st, 2006, 03:10 AM

http://www.lubertadler.com/uploads/HarborviewPinnaclesmall.jpg

That's the first I've ever seen of The Pinnacle rendering. I am assuming that the silhouette to its right is Harborview Phase 3. How many stories is that supposed to be?

This is the first time I've seen all these projects laid out in one place. It's easy to forget about a lot of them.
I really like the design of Harbor Tower, but they were right to send them back to the drawing board. That tower needs to be much taller for that piece of real estate. It'll look great once it goes up though.

PeterSmith

March 1st, 2006, 03:12 AM

Also, I love that arch on Union Wharf. It reminds me of Boston's skyline. It would look nice with some highrises behind it.

StevenW

March 1st, 2006, 11:51 AM

PeterSmith

March 1st, 2006, 05:35 PM

I believe Phase 3 is supposed to be 22 stories, right?

When is the Pinnacle slated to being construction?

waj0527

March 1st, 2006, 10:21 PM

Is the new dorm tower at MICA slated to be built at the corner of North and Mt. Royal? Im trying to imagine where they're building it, and the only parcel I can think of is at that intersection.

fluffyhorse

March 2nd, 2006, 03:06 AM

^^
It is supposed to be near North Avenue. Here is the website for it and a Sun article

http://www.rtkl.com/mica/
http://www.rtkl.com/mica/pdf/baltsun02.pdf

fluffyhorse

March 2nd, 2006, 03:26 AM

Rotunda Redevelopment

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7410/rotunda16ni.jpg

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9766/rotunda24cm.jpg

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3105/rotunda32hr.jpg

• A new Giant Supermarket of approximately 73,500 square feet.
• New retail shops and restaurants totaling approx. 50,000 sq. feet.
• A mix of 400 new residential apartments, condos and townhouses.
• A major redesign of the existing retail shops.
• Structured parking to accommodate all of the uses.
• Enhanced pedestrian access with new public gathering spaces.
http://grandrotunda.com/index.html

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WaterView Overlook

119 luxury townhomes and condominiums at Middle Branch.

http://www.cimgrealestate.com/Assets/wvwithlogo.jpg

http://www.cimgrealestate.com/Assets/WVrendering.jpg

http://www.cimgrealestate.com/Assets/waterviewsiteplan.jpg

http://www.cimgrealestate.com/waterview.htm

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Vistas on the Lake (Reservior Hill)

http://www.cimgrealestate.com/Assets/vistas_eastsketch_small.jpg

190 Market-rate Condos
6 stories above a 2-story garage structure
Ground Floor Retail

http://www.cimgrealestate.com/vistas.htm

StevenW

March 2nd, 2006, 05:16 AM

Very nice projects! :)

waj0527

March 2nd, 2006, 05:24 AM

First, Fluffy.....you're doing a wonderful job finding renderings for projects that I've heard about but never seen before. Thanks for that.

Second, I really hope this Vistas project starts soon. The Reservoir Hill area is destined to return to its former glory. I can feel it. IMHO, the entire Eutaw Place corridor is oozing with potential. Its gonna take alot more projects like these though that bring with them amenties that will bring residents with more money to transitional neighborhoods. A Starbucks, a dry cleaners, a movie rental place, and a small drug store are just a few of the many uses for the retail space that I can think of. Aside from the current demographic, why wouldnt anyone want to live in a neighborhood adjacent to Druid Hill Park, overlooking Druid Lake AND with immediate access to the JFX. Reservior Hill is a sleeping beauty.

Im also glad to finally see renderings of the Rotunda project. I hope they enlarge the movie theater and make it a first-run multiplex.

Is that Waterview project apart of the Harbor West development?

waj0527

March 2nd, 2006, 05:50 AM

Does anyone have any renderings for Superblock?

PeterSmith

March 5th, 2006, 03:49 AM

I'm pretty sure the Superblock is under wraps for now. I can't even remember what the last thing I heard about the Superblock was.

StevenW

March 5th, 2006, 03:43 PM

^^ Ditto. :(
I really would love to see something BIG go there. Perhaps some nice retail and entertainment type venues as the main attraction. :D

waj0527

March 9th, 2006, 05:50 PM

Well there was a rather long article in the Baltimore Sun a few weeks ago outlining the delay. According to the article, the city (the mayor in particular) and the developers to which most of the properties have been awarded are both ready to move forward. The Harry and Jeannette Weinberg Foundation, however, own some of the properties as well. The city cant move foward with the folks who are ready to move because the Weinberg properties are mixed in with the others.

The city contacted Weinberg to see if they actually wanted to developed the properties or sell them or whatever. They city has threatened to use eminent domain if they need to in order to get this project going. I really dont think this is a pipe dream and I really think the city realizes the importance of this.

Now if we can only get something of substance going with the damn Abell building.

fluffyhorse

March 10th, 2006, 01:59 AM

fluffyhorse

March 10th, 2006, 03:26 AM

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3183/220916527md.jpg

88 condominiums, 15,000 square feet of street-level retail and a parking garage.
In a second phase of construction, three 19th-century buildings at the end of the block -- including the current and future home of Thai Landing restaurant -- will be renovated.

Canyon-Johnson Urban Funds and Struever Bros. Eccles & Rouse Inc.

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Silo Point

$150 Million investment
Owner and Developer: Silo Point, LLC

Square Footage:
Commercial: 200,000
Retail: 50,000
Office: 150,000

550 residential units
700 space parking garage

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/9858/10098119sn.jpg
This model was in the window of their office

waj0527

March 10th, 2006, 03:50 PM

^^

I might be wrong but I seem to remember that Harry Weinberg's will said that they would not sell the proporties, so that allows either the Weinberg Corporation to develop it themselves, or the city to exercise emminent domain.

I think that the westside needs more anchors such as the Hippodrome, Centerpoint, and the Superblock that will lead to the smaller projects that make the entire area and downtown more cohesive.

Thats exactly what the article stated Fluffy. I guess we can rest knowing that the city isnt the hold up. The BDC and the mayor are rather pissed with the Weinberg Foundation and really wants to move forward. I honestly think when this gets going, other smaller infill projects will follow suit. I mean look at the areas near the Hippodrome and Centerpoint, its really coming along. I know its not earth shattering retail, but 7-11, Dunkin Doughnuts, Maggie Moore's, Starbucks and Subway have helped liven the area up.

Call me crazy, but I really think the Westside is gonna be a very nice neighborhood. Its primed for success. I can see it when I drive by. Those wonderful buildings are just waiting to be restored and reused. All we need now is the Abell building to come online, for someone to find a new use for the Vault nightclub, but the Superblock to get going and for all those properties along Howard Street to be redone or reused. If only I had a billion dollars lying around.

PeterSmith

March 10th, 2006, 04:34 PM

http://img106.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-24169/loc237/50719_22091652.jpg

88 condominiums, 15,000 square feet of street-level retail and a parking garage.
In a second phase of construction, three 19th-century buildings at the end of the block -- including the current and future home of Thai Landing restaurant -- will be renovated.

Canyon-Johnson Urban Funds and Struever Bros. Eccles & Rouse Inc.

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Silo Point

$150 Million investment
Owner and Developer: Silo Point, LLC

Square Footage:
Commercial: 200,000
Retail: 50,000
Office: 150,000

550 residential units
700 space parking garage

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/9858/10098119sn.jpg
This model was in the window of their office

I like that model. It makes Silo Point look really nice, and have a pretty commanding presence. That's something I never really got from it in any of the 2-D renderings.

PeterSmith

March 10th, 2006, 04:39 PM

waj0527

March 10th, 2006, 09:53 PM

The city defines the westide as being bounded by Charles Street to the east, MLK to the west, Pratt Street to the south and Madison Street to the north.

As for height limits, not sure of the numbers, but I doubt we'd see anything over 7-8 floors just because that'd be out of the context of the neighborhood.

scando

March 11th, 2006, 06:32 AM

I agree. I think the Westside has a lot of potential. It already has the infrastructure to be a great neighborhood, it only needs the investment, which makes things a lot easier. How big is the Westside exactly? What are its boundaries? Also, what is the height limit on the Westside? Are there any areas that aren't affected by its proximity to the shock trauma center?

I wish we could take the West side out of potential and into actuality. As I recall it, the project was announced back in around 1998 and it was said that in 5 years, we wouldn't recognize the place. Well now 11 years hence and unfortunately I still recognize most of it. Granted that the original hype was just that, but I have the impression that some of the focus has been lost. West side has dropped back in the news, the Abell building is still a wreck, the superblock is still confused, the Abell building is still a wreck, much of Howard St is still scary and... the Abell building is still a wreck.

I'm much heartened to see Centerpoint, the Hippodrome, the old Hecht's and Stewart's looking better, the Rombro and the new buildings on lower Howard St, but somehow all this still hasn't seemed to make Howard and Eutaw Sts turn the corner. I hope to be around to walk around the are and talk about how ugly and scary is used to be.

Fragmentor

March 11th, 2006, 11:24 AM

Some pf this stuff looks very nice and modern, its a shame the Ravens aren't as good as the architecture in their city.....;)

micrip

March 12th, 2006, 09:45 AM

Seeing all the projects outlined on this thread (at least 2/3's of which are going to be built) recalls something my Dad once said to me: if we stood my Granddad at the corner of Pratt and Light (he had been gone 30 years) he would not recognize where he was. Now if I were to stand my Dad on Federal Hill and point him northeast (he's been gone 5 years) he would not know where he was either!!

I've been around here over 50 years, and have never seen anything like this. The 70's and 80's brought slow and steady change, then we stagnated until around 2000. More has happened since then than the last 50 years put together, it seems.

Can't imagine what this place will look like in 2020!!

eNvision

March 14th, 2006, 06:28 AM

Baltimores growth is picking up i see, all the projects are looking great, some taller buildings downtown would make it mucch better.

waj0527

March 14th, 2006, 08:00 PM

StevenW

March 15th, 2006, 12:43 AM

^^ I agree. I think 10 Inner Harbor will definately open the door of possibilities for taller towers in Baltimore. One Light Street and 300 East Pratt streets are great locations, IMO.

PeterSmith

March 21st, 2006, 05:37 PM

I think the recent wave of high-rise development will spawn more high-rises. There are really only three undeveloped parcels in the CBD where really tall buildings can go. The trend of late has been extending the skyline primarily to the east, but also to the west. I think we'll see more talls soon.

What are those three parcels you're referring to, Waj? I assume 300 East Pratt is one, 1 Light Street is another.... Does the CityScape site count as a parcel?

That has always been my question about Baltimore growth - where will the growth go once downtown is fully-developed, which it is fast-approaching. If you head west, you run into height restrictions due to the hospital. Heading east or south you run into the historic neighborhoods which seem to scare off developers and shoot down anything over five feet. The same goes for the north around Mt. Vernon. It almost seems that if Baltimore is going to grow outside of the little pockets left around the waterfront, the development is going to have to zig-zag through areas that will alow it and around areas that won't. Or do you think the city will eventually bully the waterfront communities into allowing development? Any thoughts?

waj0527

March 21st, 2006, 11:15 PM

What are those three parcels you're referring to, Waj? I assume 300 East Pratt is one, 1 Light Street is another.... Does the CityScape site count as a parcel?

That has always been my question about Baltimore growth - where will the growth go once downtown is fully-developed, which it is fast-approaching. If you head west, you run into height restrictions due to the hospital. Heading east or south you run into the historic neighborhoods which seem to scare off developers and shoot down anything over five feet. The same goes for the north around Mt. Vernon. It almost seems that if Baltimore is going to grow outside of the little pockets left around the waterfront, the development is going to have to zig-zag through areas that will alow it and around areas that won't. Or do you think the city will eventually bully the waterfront communities into allowing development? Any thoughts?

Re: Three CBD parcels...I didnt count the area for the CityScape tower. I counted 1 Light St., 300 E. Pratt and the Conway St. site adjacent to the Convention Center. I guess there are really four of them as I forgot all about the former site of the Maryland Casualty Building (the current parking lot at 220-230 East Baltimore Street).

As for your second question, I think after the Baltimore Zoning Code is revised in the next few months, we'll start to see more development in more areas and perhaps the growth will continue throughout the city. Mixed-use seems to be a relatively new concept to Baltimore neighborhoods outside of downtown. I have a feeling that the new zoning laws will allow Baltimore to realize its full potential in many neighborhoods outside of downtown/midtown.

waj0527

March 22nd, 2006, 06:12 PM

No renderings yet, but this article outlines whats to come at the State Center complex in midtown. This transit oriented development will include office space, residential offerings, and retail/entertainment space. SBER (which has a great track record in several city neighborhoods i.e. Canton, Mt. Vernon, the Inner Harbor, Harbor East, etc.) is the developer. I honestly think we can expect something B-I-G....think Harbor East without some of the height.
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$800M Mixed-Use Project Will Replace State Offices
By Barbra Murray
Last updated: March 22, 2006 07:41am

BALTIMORE-Plans for the redevelopment of the State Center office complex move forward. Maryland officials have selected Struever Bros. Eccles & Rouse to transform what the Department of General Services describes in an RFQ as “an underutilized 25-acre state-owned site” into a mixed-use property.

SBER will head up a team that will convert the transportation-centered property--which is currently home to five buildings totaling 700,000 sf--in a multi-phased endeavor that will cost an estimated $800 million to complete. McCormack Baron Salazar and Doracon Development are also part of the SBER team.

Home to a handful of government agencies for the last 45 years, State Center sits about one mile from the city’s Inner Harbor and is surrounded by Metro stations, bus lines and light rail access. Seeking to create a transit-oriented live-work-play atmosphere, the SBER team is planning a complex with an as yet undetermined amount of office and retail space, residential offerings and parking.

“The state had the big and bold thinking to not do the obvious and stay with just office space and surface parking,” SBER’s Bill Struever tells GlobeSt.com. “This is a catalytic development that will crate a new mixed-income neighborhood linking downtown to West Baltimore, making this area a part of the revitalization that has been happening in other parts of the city.”

The project is still in the early stages so the specifics are not yet in place. Colliers will handle office leasing, SBER will oversee retail leasing and architectural firm Design Collective is on board to handle the project’s design. “Community input is a critical part of this effort,” the Maryland Department of Transportation’s Jack Cahalan tells GlobeSt.com. Seven neighborhood communities will work with the state and the private developers on the master plan to take the last 15 months of the vision process and translate that into hard details of what should be there and what, realistically, can be there.”

sdeclue

March 29th, 2006, 01:59 AM

Is there anything else going on? Anymore project news or updates? I'm really excited about this latest boom in Baltimore. The 10 Inner Harbor is certainly a step in the right direction. I'm tired of seeing 24 story buildings. Baltimore is a world-class city and needs 60, 70, 80 story buildings to go up.

waj0527

March 29th, 2006, 06:22 PM

Sdeclue, these are the MAJOR projects going on right now in the city. For more info on some of the smaller infill projects or just to find out the daily development goings-on in Baltimore, visit the Baltimore Development threads in the Northeast Regional forum.

We could see more 60-floor buildings in the near future, but as hot as Baltimore's real estate market is right now...it's not yet at the point where developers are forced to go up 80, 90 floors from the ground in order to make a profit. Maybe in the future though esp. since the office and retail space demand is starting to exceed the supply. Mixed-use is new in Baltimore (well....relative to New York, Washington, et al who have been mixing residential, office and retail for decades).

gohorns

March 29th, 2006, 06:59 PM

this is a little off topic but i've been looking at statistics and baltimore apparently has a high crime rate. i was wondering if you guys could shed a little light on the subject. which neighborhoods are safe(r)? is it safe to live in the downtown area?

I am moving to baltimore in a few months and this would be really helpful. thanks!!

oh, and i just love the inner harbor area. it played a big part in my decision to move to baltimore.

sdeclue

March 29th, 2006, 07:18 PM

Baltimore is the 2nd most dangerous city behind Detroit. Things can pretty much happen anywhere, even in the downtown area, but most of those incidents are isolated. Crime has gone down, or so they tell us, but homicide numbers have been pretty consistent the last few years. Most neighborhoods in the downtown area are fairly safe like Federal Hill, Fells Point, Canton, etc. Also there are some nice places in North Baltimore up by some of the private high schools that are pretty safe.

sdeclue

March 29th, 2006, 07:25 PM

waj0527

March 29th, 2006, 07:26 PM

I think its something like 93% of all violent crime in Baltimore includes people with a pre-existing relationship with the legal system. Basically...insofaras you arent selling drugs or murdering people yourself, you'll be fine.

Downtown is very safe. As an aside....its also very pricey. Waterfront home start at about $1 million and go upwards to $5-6 million (ultra-high end i.e. Ritz, Four Seasons, etc). If you dont mind living a few blocks away from the water, then you can find something in the mid-$300s/mid-$800, etc.

fluffyhorse

March 30th, 2006, 02:11 AM

Life Science + Technology Park @ Johns Hopkins - 855 North Wolfe Street

First building in Hopkins biopark

http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/files/pdf/rfp/upload/855_north_wolfe_street.jpg
http://www.forestcityscience.net/documents/FCS+T_Baltimore.pdf

Printers Square Apartments (Mount Vernon)
Historic Renovation of firehouse and 3 surrounding buildings
60 Apartments and courtyard

http://www.archplan.com/images/psqper01.gif
http://www.archplan.com/pdf/Printers20Sq.pdf

Station North Townhomes
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/163/stationnorthji2.jpg

McHenry Pointe
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5149/18827460ph7.jpg

The Aliceanna (Fells Point)
http://www.archplan.com/facade%20rendering%20from%20board.jpg
http://www.archplan.com/pdf/aliceanna.pdf

Lombard Court (Washington Hill)
http://www.ruppertobrien.com/lombard/Masters/RUP-105_7.jpg
http://www.ruppertobrien.com/robassets/whatsnew/06-02-17_BaltBJ%20Developer.pdf

fluffyhorse

March 30th, 2006, 02:21 AM

Broadway Overlook (Washington Hill)166 Units
http://www.broadwayoverlook.com/

http://www.broadwayoverlook.com/home/bopic.jpg http://www.broadwayoverlook.com/secondary/Skyline.jpg

Albermarle Square (Jonestown)338 Housing Units
http://www.integral-online.com/IP_Properties/photos/albermrle2_lg.jpg
http://www.integral-online.com/IP_Properties/photos/albermrle2_lg.jpg

Camden Crossing (Pigtown/Washington Village)150 Housing Units
http://www.camdencrossing.com/images/ccMap.jpg
http://www.camdencrossing.com

Moorings at Canton

http://www.cignalcorp.com/images/moorings1.jpg

CeC

March 30th, 2006, 02:24 AM

Very nice!

waj0527

March 30th, 2006, 07:21 PM

As an aside, the Moorings at Canton are REALLY nice. A co-worker bought an end unit and had some of us over for drinks. Talk about nice..the two elevators are a plus as well. I know its tacky, but I was really interested to see how much they paid. Realtor.com has an end unit listed at $1.9 million. Wow.

waj0527

March 30th, 2006, 07:33 PM

Thanks for the info Waj. I hope they get construction under way on 10 Inner Harbor as soon as possible. Also, has anyone heard anything about Pier6? I heard they were going to completely rebuild an outstanding summer concert venue there that would bring huge acts and be very nice. Along the same lines, any word on the possibility of a new arena in Baltimore? We need one so bad. Aerosmith said it was the worst place they played in back in 1978. A new arena would bring a ton of concerts and other entertainment and hopefully an NBA team back to Baltimore. We are too huge of a basketball city not to have an NBA team.

Good questions. Pier 6 is actually the subject of much political strife in Baltimore right now. The city award a development contract submitted by Cordish Co. who partnered with Bethel AME...a huge African-American church. Well, now people say the city only selected the plan so that Martin O. can get the Bmore black vote in his quest to run the State House. Here's an article:

Cordish Development Team Selected to Refurbish/Manage Pier Six Concert Pavilion

Baltimore, MD (January 12, 2006) – Today, the Baltimore Development Corporation (BDC) and Baltimore Office of Promotion & The Arts (BOPA) announced, on behalf of the City of Baltimore, that the development team led by The Cordish Company, in partnership with Infinity Broadcasting, Rams Head Tavern and Bethel AME Church, has been selected to refurbish and manage the Pier Six Concert Pavilion in Baltimore’s Inner Harbor. BDC will enter into an Exclusive Negotiating Privilege (ENP) with the developer.

The Cordish Development Team will enhance the existing Pier Six Concert Pavilion to create an entertainment facility that includes improvements to internal and external aesthetics, food and beverage operations and acoustics. The team plans to increase the number of concerts and add diverse events on non-concert dates.

“The setting for the Pier Six Concert Pavilion is one of the most beautiful in the United States for an outdoor live entertainment venue, and the Cordish Development Team’s proposal offered the best plan to bring new life and energy to that facility,” said BDC President M.J. “Jay” Brodie. “With an experienced development team that has expertise in management, marketing and promotions, the Pier Six Concert Pavilion will once again be a premier attraction at the Inner Harbor.”

In March 2005, BDC and BOPA issued a Request for Proposals for the improvement, management and promotion of the outdoor performance venue. BDC received two proposals in response to the RFP: one from the Cordish Development Team; the other from H&S Properties Development Corporation, Struever Bros. Eccles & Rouse, Inc. and Doracon Contracting, Inc., which proposed replacing the existing Pier Six Concert Pavilion with a new entertainment facility at Harbor Point.

“Baltimore deserves a first-class, live entertainment venue on its waterfront, and we’re thrilled to be leading a great team with Rams Head and Infinity that’s going to deliver on this,” said Cordish Company Chairman David S. Cordish. “This will be a reborn Pier VI that’s

a true regional draw.”

The Pier Six Concert Pavilion, a tensile structure built in 1981 and substantially renovated in 1991 as a permanent facility, has played host to some of the biggest names in the entertainment business, from rock to jazz and from R&B to classical, while providing concert goers with a panoramic view of Baltimore’s world famous Inner Harbor. The pavilion, which is surrounded on three sides by water, is located at the end of Pier 6. To the east, across the lower Jones Falls Channel, is the Marriott Waterfront Hotel; the Pier 5 Hotel is to the west. To the north are a surface parking lot and the Columbus Center. The pavilion is within walking distance of more than 4,000 hotel rooms and dozens of museums and attractions clustered around the Inner Harbor, such as Harborplace, the National Aquarium in Baltimore, the Maryland Science Center,

Power Plant and Power Plant Live, Harbor East and the Reginald F. Lewis Museum of Maryland African American History & Culture.

The concert pavilion averaged 24 public shows per season in the past 10 years with a high of 32

shows in 1995. In 2004, the total number of paid attendees was approximately 30,000 with an average per show of 1,800 people. The most commonly booked music genres (in order) over the past 10 years have been: pop/soft rock, R&B, country, alternative/folk, blues, jazz/contemporary, world, comedy and classic/orchestral.

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As for the arena......

I dont know if many people remember this, but the city submitted RFPs for a new arena. They said they were only interested in having an arena with a seating capacity smaller than what is required for an NBA/NHL team. Intially, I though tit was the most stupid thing ever, then I realized...the new building is whats important. Additional seats can be installed later. I havent heard anything about that since. We sorely need a new arena though. I'd prefer it NOT be rebuilt on the same plot as 1st Mariner Arena. Although a new arena on that site could help further promote development on the Westside.

sdeclue

March 30th, 2006, 11:35 PM

Thanks for the info. I think it's kinda hard to add seats to an arena though as opposed to an outdoor venue like a baseball or football stadium. Hopefully the whole Pier 6 thing gets figured out soon because that's a great asset for Baltimore. I also hope there aren't too many projects in the city that are looking to create too much greenspace. I heard they are trying to increase the greenspace and while some parks and such are nice, we need that land for further development.

sdeclue

March 31st, 2006, 03:17 AM

I actually kinda like the first mariner building. It has a real presence right by I-95. I'm really excited about the building at 300 E Pratt. That looks very nice. I'm disappointed in the Ritz Carlton development. I don't understand why they would use up such a huge chunk of prime real estate right near the Inner Harbor for that. I would have wanted to see a lot of towers there.

waj0527

March 31st, 2006, 04:25 PM

I also hope there aren't too many projects in the city that are looking to create too much greenspace. I heard they are trying to increase the greenspace and while some parks and such are nice, we need that land for further development.

Well...park space is rather important and without it, I doubt many families would want to relacate to city neighborhoods. For environmental reasons, quality of life reasons, and aesthetics. I actually like the fact that Baltimore is focusing on park space in the city.

Right now there are several 'green space' projects going on in the city.

The War Memorial Plaza has just under gone a major overhaul and while its not the most inviting thing, its certainly better than the homeless havent that was there before.

http://www.mahanrykiel.com/portfolio/parks/p-p-warmemorial01.jpg

Below are the plans for Center Plaza, a current concrete wasteland that will be transformed into a great greenspace for neighborhood residents as well as office workers, people using the adjacent transit center, students at Hopkins' downtown center and tourists staying at nearby hotels.

http://mail.dpob.org/Development/images/0601.jpg

West Shore Park is probably the biggest (and most expensive) green space project taking place right now. It should be ready for the Volvo Ocean Race later this year.

http://www.tbany.com/download.php?fileid=399

A park is slated to be included at Harbor Point
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/569/harborpointimg6zj.jpg

Also currently under-construction is the Mount Vernon Childrens Park on Calvert Street.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b29/code130/images.jpg

sdeclue

March 31st, 2006, 06:19 PM

I like the idea of the West Shore park. I have been excited about that and am looking forward to its completion. I'm also very happy with what they are doing with the War Memorial Plaza because something had to be done there. I think the park on Harbor Point would be better served for some combination of buildings, IMO.

gohorns

April 2nd, 2006, 06:46 AM

thanks sdeclue and waj for the info. i'm graduating in may so i have some way to go before I can afford an expensive waterfront condo..hehe..

i'm going to be renting...at least for the next few years....and that isn't cheap either.....

sdeclue

April 2nd, 2006, 04:46 PM

Silver Springer

April 2nd, 2006, 08:24 PM

Broadway Overlook (Washington Hill)166 Units
Moorings at Canton

http://www.cignalcorp.com/images/moorings1.jpg

For some reason I really love this photo.

StevenW

April 3rd, 2006, 05:31 AM

Found this article from The Sun this morning. It warns that there may be too many condos for too little demand by sometime next year and that many projects may not be built. Hopefully this isn't the case.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/realestate/bal-te.bz.condos02apr02,0,2261932.story?coll=bal-home-headlines
I wouldn't worry too much about that article. They really didn't say anything conclusive. Plus, Baltimore can and will absorb these new proposed, approved and under construction projects without a bit of a problem. In fact I know there will be a WHOLE LOT MORE coming than we see now. Plus the Baltimore market for class A office space is starting to heat up a bit. :)

waj0527

April 3rd, 2006, 07:16 PM

I think lots of people look at very general national housing trends when they write these very specific articles. Even as the national housing market (and even the local market) cools off a bit, Baltimore has TWO positives on which it can hang its hat....affordablity and location.

Currently if you want a waterfront (prime) property in Baltimore, you're gonna start in the $1 million range. Waterfront living in Washington or New York or Boston is gonna cost you a bit more...Baltimore's prices have yet to catch up to other cities in the NE and if you want to live near resturants, museums, professional sporting stadia and urban life in general, you'd get the same thing living in downtown Baltimore and save a few dollars in the process.

Baltimore's other positive is its location. Its proximity to Washington lets lots of people live in one city and work in the other or vice-versa. Baltimore's already its on city with its own metro identity, so its not like its a bedroom community for Washington. Developers know that if you build in Baltimore...they will come...from the wealthy suburbs to the north and Washington and its suburbs. Baltimore has yet to realize its potential IMHO. It's real estate market wont cap off for quite some time.

sdeclue

April 3rd, 2006, 09:46 PM

I like that Westin Center building so much more than the Hilton they are building. 20 stories just doesn't seem like enough to me for that piece of land. I also wish the Zenith were a bit taller.

waj0527

April 6th, 2006, 09:17 PM

1 East Redwood Street
Adaptive Reuse of a former office building into luxury Condos
Located in CBD...Slated to be delivered Spring 2007.

http://www.ashbournedevelopments.com/redwood/Flash%20Images/BuildingImage.jpg

StevenW

April 6th, 2006, 10:49 PM

Like I've said before, "I like it!" :D

sdeclue

April 7th, 2006, 12:10 AM

StevenW

April 7th, 2006, 02:00 AM

^^ The more and MORE you read all the different articles online at the Sun, Baltimore Business Journal, Md Daily Record and now the Examiner, you're eyes will become trained to pick up those articles that you may have missed in the past. Repetition. :D
;)

waj0527

April 7th, 2006, 04:06 PM

Very nice. Where and how do you find out about these projects? I mean, I read the Sun every day so I see a bunch of them in there but a project like the East Redwood Street isn't in there. I'd kinda like to contribute to finding some of these projects.
Like Steven said....its kinda just something my eye is sort of used to looking out for. I actually saw a sign announcing this project while driving on Charles Street. I made a mental note...and checked it out. I read online articles a lot. When I come into work every morning...I grab a cup of coffee, check out whats going on with my favorite sport teams, read Baltimoresun.com and check out various message boards. I like to ease into my day. Some days you find something new...some days you dont.

You'd really impress me if you can find out ANYTHING about the boutique hotel under-construction at Camden Yards. A rendering, a devloper, the operator....something. lol.

waj0527

April 7th, 2006, 05:46 PM

Like I've said before, "I like it!" :D
I think its ok. Im not too keen on the idea of residences smack in the middle of the CBD, but at least its replacing something thats under used with a building thats gonna add life and retail to that neighborhood. I probably wouldnt want to live there...because you're on a bit of an island. But if the price is right, I can see how that area would be attractive.

As a related aside, I really hope they convert the Mechanic Theater into a first-run theater with a significant retail component that will support area residents. If its done right, it can be a hub for everyone who lives in buildings on the eastern most edge of the Westside (including the Rombro Lofts, Camden Court Apartments, Centerpoint and even the Atrium) as well as for residents of buildings in the CBD (Charles Towers, etc) and of course the developer can make a ton off of the workers in the Federal Building and the high rises enclosing that plaza.

StevenW

April 7th, 2006, 09:00 PM

I think its ok. Im not too keen on the idea of residences smack in the middle of the CBD, but at least its replacing something thats under used with a building thats gonna add life and retail to that neighborhood. I probably wouldnt want to live there...because you're on a bit of an island. But if the price is right, I can see how that area would be attractive.

As a related aside, I really hope they convert the Mechanic Theater into a first-run theater with a significant retail component that will support area residents. If its done right, it can be a hub for everyone who lives in buildings on the eastern most edge of the Westside (including the Rombro Lofts, Camden Court Apartments, Centerpoint and even the Atrium) as well as for residents of buildings in the CBD (Charles Towers, etc) and of course the developer can make a ton off of the workers in the Federal Building and the high rises enclosing that plaza.
Well, having those residents there adds more foot traffic to the area, that's the main reason I really like it. Now add the cityscape and one light street projects and we have some good foot activity going on those streets. :D
As for the Mechanic, yeah, it would be nice if a movie venue or something like it would go there to entertain and educate the locals in that particular area of the city. :D

scando

April 8th, 2006, 07:28 AM

As a related aside, I really hope they convert the Mechanic Theater into a first-run theater with a significant retail component that will support area residents. If its done right, it can be a hub for everyone who lives in buildings on the eastern most edge of the Westside (including the Rombro Lofts, Camden Court Apartments, Centerpoint and even the Atrium) as well as for residents of buildings in the CBD (Charles Towers, etc) and of course the developer can make a ton off of the workers in the Federal Building and the high rises enclosing that plaza.

As a weekly movie and theater goer, I would love to have another venue. The Mechanic building isn't suitable for anything else and is already equipped with restaurant space and retail spaces. It appears that Clear Channel was awarded a virtual monopoly on musical theater in the Hippodrome but that's not to say that an enterprising person couldn't make a go at a combined music/theater/movie venue at the Mechanic. Given that the Charles Theater has become a venue that stimulated that entire area in "Penn North", why not here? The operator of the Afgan Kabob place across the street will probably need a new space when his restaurant becomes a parking structure and residents of the upcoming condos in the area will need something to do. I'll be there buying tickets. Given that the owner is paying taxes and getting nothing at this point, anything would be better than the current state

waj0527

April 8th, 2006, 04:13 PM

The owner of the parking garage below the Mechanic is the developer too, right?

sdeclue

April 11th, 2006, 12:32 AM

I was on the BDC site and they had the Zenith being completed by 7/1/06. That has to be a mistake and mean 2007. Also there were 8 proposals for Pig Town/Mount Washington submitted, which is great that so many companies are interested in that area.

sdeclue

April 11th, 2006, 12:34 AM

Also, what's the deal with that one building on Light Street? I haven't see any renderings of it on the site but there is something on the BDC site about it. It looks like a very interesting 30 story tower.

scando

April 11th, 2006, 04:30 AM

The owner of the parking garage below the Mechanic is the developer too, right?

That's what I heard. They bought the hulk from the foundation that owned it before the theater went dark. I believe that there has been talk about a partnership with the Charles Theater owners and the Karzai brother who owns Tapas Theatra

fluffyhorse

April 14th, 2006, 09:43 PM

Cityscape (Calvert/Mercer/Lombard)
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/4853/untitled12kr.jpg

Developer Mark Sapperstein
Total Project Investment $71,000,000 estimate

Total Square Footage 400,000
Retail 6,500

Residential Units 300
Parking Spaces 542

http://baltimoredevelopment.com/projectDetails.asp?id=5&cd=Mixed%20Use
http://sapperstein.com/
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Canton Crossing Building?
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1006/underconstruction42lz.jpg
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National Aquarium in Baltimore
Center for Aquatic Life and Conservation
Middle Branch Campus

Size: 180,000 gsf
Cost: $20,000,000

The adaptive re-use of a 149,000 SF Department of Public Works Garage
http://www.asg-architects.com/_images/_otb/cultural/calc/cultural_calc_01.jpg

StevenW

April 14th, 2006, 10:04 PM

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1006/underconstruction42lz.jpg
that was Ed Hale's old proposal. The octagon shaped tower that is 17 stories and rises over 330 ft. is built already.

fluffyhorse

April 14th, 2006, 10:06 PM

Uplands Redevelopment-

In May of 2003, the City acquired the 52-acre Uplands Apartments site from the U.S. Department of Housing & Community Development with the intent of developing a new mixed income neighborhood that offers a modern, urban housing product for the region's middle class, yet retains affordable rental and for-sale options for lower income families. Baltimore Housing engaged national award winning design and market analysis firms to master plan the site with the full engagement of the surrounding community.

Completion Date: Phased construction with anticipated completion in 2007.
Total Project Investment: Anticipated $300 million +Public: TBD

http://www.baltimorehousing.org/index/uplands_masterplan.pdf
http://www.baltimorehousing.org/index/project_showcase.asp?ItemID=134&rcid=91&pcid=73&cid=91
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Frederick Douglass - Isaac Myers Maritime Museum
http://sber.com/project_detail.asp?ProjectID=211&Contact=3
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Rotunda Model
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/7517/rotunda46cs.jpg
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BGE Building Conversion

Cost: $33 Million
183 Apartments
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/3412/bgeapartments2sl.jpg
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Maryland Trust Building Conversion
a 97-room Marriott Springhill Suites

Calvert and Redwood streets, a survivor of the Great Fire of 1904

http://www.heritage-consulting.com/_borders/Abell%20pic.jpg

sdeclue

April 15th, 2006, 01:48 AM

The picture for City Scape is kinda blurry and it's difficult to see what buildings are going up. Is that one or two or even three new towers? If so, that's fantastic. Even one more tower would be great.

I'm also very happy that the old proposed Ed Hale building was knocked out by the one he actually built. The new building sits right along 95 and has quite a presence from the interstate in both height and width.

As for the aquarium land, it seems kinda pointless to me. That could all be valuable land to later develop as the room on the waterfront for future building gets smaller.

fanofterps

April 15th, 2006, 11:22 PM

happen?

The picture for City Scape is kinda blurry and it's difficult to see what buildings are going up. Is that one or two or even three new towers? If so, that's fantastic. Even one more tower would be great.

I'm also very happy that the old proposed Ed Hale building was knocked out by the one he actually built. The new building sits right along 95 and has quite a presence from the interstate in both height and width.

As for the aquarium land, it seems kinda pointless to me. That could all be valuable land to later develop as the room on the waterfront for future building gets smaller.

scando

April 16th, 2006, 06:34 AM

[QUOTE=fluffyhorse]
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Rotunda Model
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/7517/rotunda46cs.jpg
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I really hope this one happens. It's a great location that used to be a hot retail area until the complex was sold to an owner that had no interest. I still go to movies and supermarket there regularly and love how that plot of land overlooks downtown from way uphill. It integrates well into the upper Hampden/lower Roland Park boundary and should see lots of business from people all around the area. On the celebrity front, I have seen John Waters there food shopping a couple times. If I were in the market for a flat, I would definitely think about living there.

waj0527

April 17th, 2006, 04:25 PM

As an aside...I can't wait until The Zenith is finished. Its going to have such a commanding presence.

Wada_Guy posted some new pics in the 'Baltimore Development 13'. Here's one showing progress of The Zenith (in the background) and the cleared lot for the Hilton Baltimore Convention Center Hotel.

http://www.baltimoreguy.com/images/Photographs%20Balto%202006%20Page%2009%2012.jpg

waj0527

April 17th, 2006, 04:43 PM

Actually....thanks to Wada_Guy, we can get progress on lots of development projects.

Hilton Baltimore Convention Center Hotel

http://www.baltimoreguy.com/images/Photographs%20Balto%202006%20Page%2009%2014.jpg

West Shore Park

http://www.baltimoreguy.com/images/Photographs%20Balto%202006%20Page%2009%2006.jpg

Center Plaza

http://www.baltimoreguy.com/images/Photographs%20Balto%202006%20Page%2009%2024.jpg

waj0527

April 17th, 2006, 09:09 PM

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1006/underconstruction42lz.jpg
that was Ed Hale's old proposal. The octagon shaped tower that is 17 stories and rises over 330 ft. is built already.

As much as I dislike the 1st Mariner Bank Headquarters building, I have to admit that it is certainly an upgrade over what was to be built.

sdeclue

April 17th, 2006, 09:16 PM

Yeah I kinda like the 1st Mariner Bank headquarters and feel it's a huuuuge upgrade over that first idea. That thing looks like some factory. Those pictures are awesome. Does anyone know whats going on with Cityscape and is that Center Plaza going to be a park area or a building? It would be a nice area to have a park with people eating lunch out there on nice days when they have a break from work.

sdeclue

April 17th, 2006, 09:46 PM

Also where can I find the "Baltimore Development 13" so I can look at these pictures? I can't find it anywhere on here.

waj0527

April 17th, 2006, 11:11 PM

Here's the link to Baltimore Development News #13 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=8075876)

It can be found in the Northeast/Mid-Atlantic subforum.

Also, Center Plaza is going to be a park. There's a rendering of it on Page 4 or 5 of this thread.

sdeclue

April 17th, 2006, 11:18 PM

One more question. What is that building to the left of the Dean Witter building in the West Shore Park picture? I don't remember any such tall building being there.

waj0527

April 18th, 2006, 03:08 PM

I may be showing my youth, but I have never heard a building in Baltimore referred to as "the Dean Whitter building". The tallest tower in that pic, however, is the Legg Mason headquarters tower.

southbalto

April 18th, 2006, 04:39 PM

One more question. What is that building to the left of the Dean Witter building in the West Shore Park picture? I don't remember any such tall building being there.

I think you might mean the morgan stanley building (affiliated to DW). The building to the left is the sheraton Hotel.

sdeclue

April 18th, 2006, 10:23 PM

scando

April 19th, 2006, 04:10 AM

Thanks. I'm trying to think of where exactly that Sheraton Hotel sits in relation to the Morgan Stanley building because in that picture it looks like it is right across the street and that it is just as tall as the MS building. Is that a new Sheraton Hotel?

In that picture, the Sheraton is much closer than the MS building. That's why they appear to be the same height even though they are not. The Sheraton dates back to the 80's.

FITCH

April 19th, 2006, 08:03 PM

I do not know how to post photos from web pages. However I have found 4 Highrise projects that have been approved. I went to www.cimgrealestate.com The properties are in Fells point, Res hill, Fed hill, and downtown.

waj0527

April 19th, 2006, 09:00 PM

Thanks for the comtribution Fitch and Welcome!!!!

Here's renderings of what Fitch found.

Another view of Vistas on the Lake
Market Rate Condos at Druid Hill Lake Drive
http://cimgrealestate.com/Assets/vistas_eastsketch_small.jpg

The Station at Fells Point (1621 Bank Street)
Market rate condos at the corner of Bank St. and Broadway
http://cimgrealestate.com/Assets/fellspoint_elevation_new.jpg

The Residences at Lexington Market
Market-rate condos and townhomes above Lexington Market garage

http://cimgrealestate.com/Assets/lexington_elev.jpg

http://cimgrealestate.com/Assets/lexington_cover_small.jpg

waj0527

April 19th, 2006, 10:20 PM

BDC's List o' Westside Developments
Completed - U/C - In Pipeline (bold indicates status)

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The Hippodrome - Completed

http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/photo/2004-02/11364251.jpg

With Bank of America’s investment, this $70 million center now seats 2,250 guests for Broadway shows, concerts and community events. The entire theatre complex includes the restoration of three historic landmark buildings -- the Hippodrome, the Western National Bank Building and the Eutaw Savings Bank.

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The Atrium at Market Center - Completed

http://my.suiteamerica.com/images/complexes/THEATRIUM.jpg

Developed by Southern Management Corporation and now fully operational, this complex contains 173 apartment homes and lofts built around a seven-story open-air interior atrium. Built within the structure of the historic Hecht department store, the building's classic revival-style facade has been restored and its interior updated.
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Maggie Moore’s - Completed

This 200-seat, 8,000-square-foot restaurant features two floors of dining with a bar on each floor. Opened last last, Maggie Moore's will draw on traffic from the Hippodrome, Bank of America's Centerpoint complex, and neighboring university students and staff.
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Abell Building - WTF?!

http://www.ce.jhu.edu/baltimorestructures/Abell%20Building/IMG_0886_small.JPG

The Philadelphia Management Corporation will convert this 19th century 55,000 square foot structure to retail on the first floor with residential and commercial uses on the upper floors. Permits have been issued for the construction of 35 residential units and construction is underway.
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Centerpoint - Completed

http://www.housing.umaryland.edu/images/centerpoint.jpg

This $70+ million dollar project developed by Bank of America and Atlanta-based Harold A. Dawson Co. features 392 rental apartments, 30,000 square feet of retail space and a 400-space parking garage. The final phase of the project is under construction and includes 103 apartment units. The first and second phases includes loft units in the historic buildings on Howard Street and a newly constructed tower offering studio, one and two–bedroom apartments. The third phase of the project is under construction including 103 units of apartments on Eutaw and Baltimore Streets. Delivery on some units is expected in September 2005. In addition, local business Hippodrome Hatters is moving back near their original location in the Centerpoint project.
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Lexington Market - Completed

http://www.downtownwestside.com/images/photos/350x225/lexington_market.jpg

Having undergone a $4.2 million facelift, Lexington Market now features more storefront space, new convenience features, updated interior design and lighting, enhanced exterior, added sidewalks and landscaping. A RFP will be issued this month for the redevelopment of the Pfeiffer Building at 200 N. Paca Street and the air rights parcel above the Lexington Market garage at 500-524 W. Lexington Street.
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University of Maryland Bio Tech Park - U/C

http://www.umbbiopark.com/bin/x/e/collage_right.jpg

Phase One of the 800 block of Baltimore Street is completed and was occupied by the first tenants on July 18th. 100 employees from a Rockville disease research group occupy the 4th floor and several similar companies are expected to occupy the remaining floors. The first building is 100% leased and the 630-space parking garage is expected to open in early Fall.
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829 W. Baltimore Street - ?????????
The University of Maryland in partnership with the Poppleton Community and Police Department were instrumental in establishing a new Police Sub-station manned by eleven (11) officers to serve the community.
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Camden Square, LLC (This is infamous boutique hotel!!) - U/C
Next Realty and Sky Hospitality are developing a 126-room 8-story hotel at 221-231 South Greene Street/Portland Street. Construction is expected to begin early this Fall.
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University of Maryland Dental School - Completed

http://www.budget.umaryland.edu/bin/h/m/dental02.jpg

Rising 10 stories and including 360,000 square feet, the brick and limestone building will have a glass facade and two atriums. The new $124 million building will open before year's end.

Infrastructure/Streetscaping - Still Underway, hopefully :-/
More than 50 block faces in total have been renovated in our Financial District, Baltimore’s West Side and Mt. Vernon, representing more than $17 million in investment.
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Stewart’s Building - Completed

http://www.designcollective.com/_internal/cimg!0/8vvu8jlh5az

Constructed in the early 1900's, the Stewarts Building was one of Baltimore's grand department stores. Now, 100 years later, it recaptures its impressive stature as one of the city's most advanced buildings for offices, as well as retail. It is now the pending home of Catholic Relief Services, which currently employs 326 people in its offices, but expects to grow to about 400 employees in its new expanded space.
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The Congress - Completed

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:j0Wa5kr-CUdVGM:www.rent.com/media/property/700/700263_w.jpg

Derelict for a decade, the historic Congress Hotel has been beautifully rehabilitated as 36 market rate apartments and 8,500 square feet of office and retail space. With its heritage retained and features restored, The Congress has also been nominated for the National Register of Historic Places.
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400 Block of Baltimore - WTF is going on with this?!
The partnership between David S. Brown Enterprises, A & R Development Corporation, and Steve Samuelson will result in the creation of 100,000 square feet of office space and 13,000 square feet of retail space on both sides of the block, at an estimated cost of over $15 million.
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Superblock - ::SIGH::
Three development teams were selected to redevelop the superblock lead by the Chera Feil Goldman Group of New York City, and includes Carmel Realty Associates of Philadelphia and local developer, French Development Company, Inc. Barenburg Eye Associates (Dr. Levin/Dr. Gordon) will start construction on the properties located at 100 Park Avenue and 202 W. Fayette Street in early Fall. Exterior construction will include the removal of all awnings, window restoration, and brick cleaning.
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University of Maryland Medical Center - Completed

http://www.kpf.com/images/Projects/UMMS/n1138_5001z.jpg

Recently completed a $150 million addition.
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Fayette Residences - Completed

http://www.harki*******ers.com/project/10042.jpg

New housing for university students north of Fayette between Greene and Paca streets has been completed. A 17-story tower provides most of the 300 or so apartments; the remaining units will be in older rehabilitated structures while parking and street-level retail are included.
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The Zenith - U/C

http://www.h2xmultimedia.com/clients/_mta/project_imgs/ontheboards/boards_zen1.jpg

Legency/Harris Development and Kennedy Associates are developing 191 upscale apartments. The $35m project is under construction and expected to be completed in 2007.
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Camden Court Apartments - Completed

http://www.bfcollection.net/cities/usa/md/baltimore/balto_01/2005091214w_CamdenCourts.jpg

This $35 million project is nearly complete and currently leasing 221 units of market rate rental apartments.

MasonsInquiries

April 19th, 2006, 11:15 PM

Canton Crossing Building?
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1006/underconstruction42lz.jpg

yep, fluffyhorse. i'm almost certain that this was the old (VERY VERY VERY VERY old) rendering of hale's canton tower.

StevenW

April 19th, 2006, 11:33 PM

StevenW

April 19th, 2006, 11:34 PM

Love to see these mixed in with the over all skyline! :D
http://cimgrealestate.com/Assets/lexington_cover_small.jpg

FITCH

April 20th, 2006, 12:02 AM

I here the city is doing away with section 8 housing, Public housing. It seems as if the County is moving to Baltimore and Baltimore is moving to the county because of this. Has anybody heard of the proposed high speed Washinton/ Baltimore train that will connect us to NYC in something like a half of an hour??? Any renderings of anything right next to Penn Station. If I had the money I would go vertical in that area. Any renderings of Westport I know this is a Pat Turner development. Any renderings of the 200 million dollar marine research center? I hear Ruppert homes is also doing a large project in this area.

StevenW

April 20th, 2006, 11:04 PM

^^ Hadn't heard much on the "West Port" development in a while.
The "maglev" is what I think you are talking about, FITCH. It's not decided yet.

waj0527

April 20th, 2006, 11:14 PM

Isnt there a development under construction in Westport as we speak? Wait...Harbor West and Westport are the same general location, right?

MasonsInquiries

April 20th, 2006, 11:16 PM

Isnt there a development under construction in Westport as we speak? Wait...Harbor West and Westport are the same general location, right?
yep. well, actually middle branch and westport together have developed the new name of harbor west.

sdeclue

April 21st, 2006, 12:52 AM

What development is under construction in Westport?

waj0527

April 21st, 2006, 02:39 PM

Its called:

Waterview Overlook at Harbor West

http://cimgrealestate.com/Assets/wvwithlogo.jpg

Located on the scenic Middle Branch River, at the center of the newly-designated ‘Harbor West’, WaterView Overlook will redefine luxury waterfront living in Baltimore. The completed development will boast spectacular views of downtown and the harbor, and will consist of 119 luxury townhomes and condominiums. Amenities will include a private clubhouse, fitness center, swimming pool, secure entrance, garage parking, and much more.

With its close proximity to Ravens Stadium, Oriole Park at Camden Yards, I-95, commuter rail, and the Inner Harbor, WaterView Overlook will combine the ultimate in urban excitement with the tranquility and luxury of premium waterfront living. Sales for this premier waterfront development will begin in June of 2005!

sdeclue

April 21st, 2006, 03:32 PM

Looks nice, but I thought there was talk of several towers over 500 feet going in there?

sdeclue

April 22nd, 2006, 01:40 AM

It also looks a bit too country clubish for the city.

FITCH

April 22nd, 2006, 06:27 PM

Towers yes not to exceed 500 ft. Plans call for a mall where they currently service the governments autos. The towers will be where the old carr lowrey glass factory and BGE buildings are ( Carr Lowrey has been demolished) WaterView is across from the marina. I hear there are plans for a high rise where the Hechts warehouse sits. This is all waterfront. Now talking about the inner harbour is Patarakis going to move the H&S Factories I hear to the county at some time soon?

FITCH

April 22nd, 2006, 08:39 PM

sdeclue

April 23rd, 2006, 03:33 AM

I thought I heard the towers would exceed 500 feet. If that's not the case, I'm not happy with all the scaling back on towers of late. The Icon also was scaled back as was the Zenith and the Hilton at one point, though the latter 2 may be due to height restrictions because of shock trauma. As far as a mall, it would be awesome to have a world class, huge mall somewhere in the city, maybe in the canton crossing development that Hale says would be an upscale Inner Harbor. We have the Gallery but it isn't very big, although it is very nice.

StevenW

April 23rd, 2006, 03:37 AM

WAJ or StevenW, Do you have site with all renderings or do you think you could post one on here. I work from a remote location and only have dial up. It takes a very long time to scoll though all seven pages here to look at all the renderings??
I would go to the www.baltimoredevelopment.com website and check out their "development" page.
An example of what you will find there:
http://www.baltimoredevelopment.com/files/pdf/rfp/upload/701_east_baltimore_street.jpg
701 East Baltimore Street
The "Cordish" Tower. :) Probably around 400 ft. tall.

StevenW

April 23rd, 2006, 03:40 AM

sdeclue

April 23rd, 2006, 03:44 AM

Haha ok 600 feet excites me. I'm far more excited by slender talls than I am by 400 foot buildings with a lot of width. The city needs more talls that are sleek. Anyway I'm trying to envision the skyline once the Water tower, Zenith, Hilton, Harbor East and some of Canton Crossing is finished. Are there any renderings that show the skyline from a distance that include any projects currently under construction?

sdeclue

April 24th, 2006, 07:46 PM

I think it would look nice to have a lot of tall buildings looming over I-83. I think that would look very impressive for anyone driving south from the north part of the city.

waj0527

April 24th, 2006, 08:28 PM

Impressive? Yes. Practical? No. Of course the JFX would look better with talls and supertalls looming over it. That'd be great, but lets face it. From a real estate standpoint, Baltimore just isnt there yet.

Outside of the CBD (and environs) there's really no financial sense in building up (over 10-12 stories). Baltimore isnt like New York or Chicago where in order to make a profit, developers have to go up high enough to get enough tenents to make it worth your while.

I'd love to see more talls in Baltimore, but we better be careful what we wish for. We dont want to become a Dubai or any other city with wonderfully tall buildings, but no streetlife. Honestly, I'd rather see neighborhoods like Harbor West and Station North and Greektown and the Westside and the neighborhoods surrounding Johns Hopkins' and UM's Biotech Parks and all other rebounding neighborhoods thrive before a 700 footer gets built anywhere in the city.

Baltimore is in an extremely unique position. With 10-20 years of good development (and yes, there is IMHO a difference between good and bad development), we can totally change our national (and international) reputation or we can squander this 'rebirth' and be known as the shitty city with lots of tall (empty) buildings.

I think if city planners handle this the right way and get people into the city, the need for 700 ft. buildings will present itself.

sdeclue

April 24th, 2006, 08:43 PM

Yeah I completely agree with that. So far I think the rebirth of the city is, all in all, being handled very well.

bjfan82

April 24th, 2006, 09:44 PM

I want to reach through my computer screen and punch all you Baltimore forumers because I am so jealous of your waterfront and all the cool development going on there. Downtown B-more looks sweet lit up at night on the water.

sdeclue

April 25th, 2006, 12:03 AM

Thanks. The key is to continue to develop more great things along the waterfront and then hopefully the CBD and places even outside of that area really begin to prosper as well.

vivo

April 25th, 2006, 03:52 AM

i don't know much aboiut the urban beach in chicago but would it be possible to duplicate one in bmore? Also is it in dtown chicago?

scando

April 25th, 2006, 04:13 AM

i don't know much aboiut the urban beach in chicago but would it be possible to duplicate one in bmore? Also is it in dtown chicago?

Baltimore's harbor is upstream from the Chesapeake Bay in a slow moving estuary and is mainly fed from the Jones Falls, which isn't anybody's idea of swimmable water. I think we will have to settle with lots of suburban areas in Baltimore and Anne Arundel counties where you can touch the water. You can put a boat in the water in downtown Baltimore without it dissolving but I would try anything more exposed than that.

sdeclue

April 27th, 2006, 11:50 PM

This place is dead.

fluffyhorse

April 28th, 2006, 01:57 AM

Silo Point

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/193/silopoint8rb.jpg

Eerik

April 28th, 2006, 07:33 AM

Baltimore's harbor is upstream from the Chesapeake Bay in a slow moving estuary and is mainly fed from the Jones Falls, which isn't anybody's idea of swimmable water. I think we will have to settle with lots of suburban areas in Baltimore and Anne Arundel counties where you can touch the water. You can put a boat in the water in downtown Baltimore without it dissolving but I would try anything more exposed than that.
One of the wackier ideas came from a charrette back in the early 80s – where a “beach” was proposed for the Inner Harbor. It was imagined to occupy the strip of land between the World Trade Center and Pier Three (it’s that area of green grass where the steel sculpture stands).

There were all types of renderings, including studies of how to grade white sand into the harbor creating a nice wide beach, and contain the water within “attractive barriers” (as Scando points out, the water was/is so dirty, I guess the barriers were designed to keep the oil slicks from dirtying the sand, and people).

The beach idea was released around the same time as a couple of other bizarre proposals. I can’t remember which of the local newspapers even had an article about the beach: I think it was either The Evening Sun or News American. If anyone has access to proposal photos, please post. At that time, it’s one of those proposals I never took seriously, and now regret not having any details.

(Of course don’t forget the hoax advertising a new underwater shopping mall for the Inner Harbor. They actually had radio commercials encouraging shoppers to come downtown before the mall sailed away. I’m being serious.)

sdeclue

April 28th, 2006, 02:27 PM

I really am not excited about Silo's point at all. They should have just torn that old thing down and built something nice and new there.

waj0527

April 28th, 2006, 02:54 PM

One of the wackier ideas came from a charrette back in the early 80s – where a “beach” was proposed for the Inner Harbor. It was imagined to occupy the strip of land between the World Trade Center and Pier Three (it’s that area of green grass where the steel sculpture stands).

There were all types of renderings, including studies of how to grade white sand into the harbor creating a nice wide beach, and contain the water within “attractive barriers” (as Scando points out, the water was/is so dirty, I guess the barriers were designed to keep the oil slicks from dirtying the sand, and people).

The beach idea was released around the same time as a couple of other bizarre proposals. I can’t remember which of the local newspapers even had an article about the beach: I think it was either The Evening Sun or News American. If anyone has access to proposal photos, please post. At that time, it’s one of those proposals I never took seriously, and now regret not having any details.

(Of course don’t forget the hoax advertising a new underwater shopping mall for the Inner Harbor. They actually had radio commercials encouraging shoppers to come downtown before the mall sailed away. I’m being serious.)

LOL @ the wacky 1980s.

waj0527

April 28th, 2006, 03:09 PM

I really am not excited about Silo's point at all. They should have just torn that old thing down and built something nice and new there.
I have to disagree with you sdeclue. One of the things that makes adaptive reuse projects so great is that it preserves the character of the city. I think the developers, when they finally get started with the renovation, will do a great job with that building. Its projects like Silo Point and other adapt-reuse projects like it that make cities interesting. If we started from scratch everytime something was built we'd be a lot like Dubai. Sure its new, supertalls look great, but there's really nothing unique about it. Just my $.02.

tybalt

April 28th, 2006, 03:24 PM

Hi,

Can anyone tell me how to post photos? for some reason my posting rules say I can't post attachments...Cheers.

waj0527

April 28th, 2006, 05:22 PM

waj0527

April 28th, 2006, 05:23 PM

While heading to the Baltimore Waterfront Festival last night, I stopped to take a few pics of the goings-ons in Charles Village and Station North.

Charles Village

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b29/code130/DSCN2201.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b29/code130/DSCN2199.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b29/code130/DSCN2197.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b29/code130/DSCN2196.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b29/code130/DSCN2195.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b29/code130/DSCN2191.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b29/code130/DSCN2192.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b29/code130/DSCN2194.jpg

This whole block is on its last leg. Only a matter of weeks before this building and these rowhomes are demolished to make room for a 10-story condo building.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b29/code130/DSCN2200.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b29/code130/DSCN2193.jpg

Station North Arts District

Construction at the Station North Townhomes
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b29/code130/DSCN2204.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b29/code130/DSCN2205.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b29/code130/DSCN2202.jpg

Printers Mill Apartments/Firehouse adaptive-reuse
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b29/code130/DSCN2206.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b29/code130/DSCN2207.jpg

Cerises

April 28th, 2006, 05:40 PM

^^ Nice projects!

DCKenny

April 28th, 2006, 06:16 PM

There are a lot of projects coming to Baltimore!!

cityman1100

April 28th, 2006, 07:11 PM

I'm glad to see that Bmore is coming up, now I might actually might have a reason to get on the BW Parkway!

jpreston02

April 28th, 2006, 08:02 PM

I really am not excited about Silo's point at all. They should have just torn that old thing down and built something nice and new there.

I'm going to have to disagree with you sdeclue as well. Living in Locust Point I can tell you that had the building been demolished, all the developer would have been allowed to build would have been more McHenry Point townhomes. Like Waj said, reuse has the potential to maintain the historical significance while still building luxury.

I'm giving a lot of leeway here to the architect because I still question whether or not they should have just taken all of the silos down. But again, they're reusing the remaining ones in the new building. So while my final verdict is not in yet, I'm excited at the transformation of the site and encouraged by the continued adaptive resuse of both Tide Point as well as Silo Point's old ADM grain elevator.

waj0527

April 28th, 2006, 09:35 PM

I'm glad to see that Bmore is coming up, now I might actually might have a reason to get on the BW Parkway!

Haha....I find it most interesting that lots of Washingtonians fail to venture north and that an equal number of Baltimoreans fail to venture south to Washington. Both cities have many things to offer. Honestly, having the amenties of two major cities is a huge advantage to living in the Baltimore-Washington metro. If you miss a concert in Baltimore, it'll be in DC tomorrow. Museums, resturants, bars tourist attractions, everything is so much easier living in this area. Plus...its a sports lovers dream. Wanna see a NFL game....you've got two franchises to choose from. We've got NBA, major NCAA Hoops and football, two MLB franchises, MLS and MISL...its all here.

Baltimore-Washington is bested only by the NYC, LA and Chicago metros in my mind.

sdeclue

April 28th, 2006, 10:00 PM

Maybe I'll like it more once it's refurbished and ready to go. I think I'd take Baltimore-DC over just about every metro. On top of all the stuff you already mentioned, the fact that Washington is in essence the most important city in the country really vaults our metro area up past every other area. That said, I like Baltimore way more than DC.

sdeclue

April 28th, 2006, 11:10 PM

By the way, thanks for the pictures Waj. I really love those projects shown above. Those townhouses should be great.

tybalt

April 30th, 2006, 03:52 PM

^Depends....if you're using a pic thats already online, simply copy the URL and paste it between this tag

If its a pic thats on your computer, then you have to find a site to host your pic i.e. photobucket.com, etc. and then use that URL and follow the steps above.

Hope this helps.

Thanks waj0527, I've got photo's on my computer that I'd like to post...
But this shows at the bottom of my screen:

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may edit your posts

Any idea how to change that 3rd 'Posting Rule'?

waj0527

May 1st, 2006, 12:24 AM

No one can post attachments. Thats not what you wanna do anyway. You're embedding the pic into the message using the code I provided. Your best bet is to host your pics.

If you'd like me to host them for you, then just shoot me a PM and see how I can help.

StevenW

May 1st, 2006, 03:10 AM

go to photo bucket or something........

fluffyhorse

May 2nd, 2006, 12:43 AM

I found this 3 year old article on the "mystery hotel". The article says the operator is Baymont Inns, but it might have changed.

http://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/stories/2003/04/28/story6.html

You might be able to find more about this on the Next Realty website which is currently not working
http://69.55.236.233/

fluffyhorse

May 2nd, 2006, 01:14 AM

Here is a master plan for Canton Crossing where you can see the height of each building
http://img146.imagevenue.com/loc214/th_24419_CantonCrossing_Plan.jpg (http://img146.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc214&image=24419_CantonCrossing_Plan.jpg)

I just hate the enormous parking lot though. At least there is room for future development :okay:
+ a 23, 19, and 24 Story residential buildings

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Waterview Overlook
http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/7130/waterviewoverlook27sp.jpg

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Vistas on the Lake

http://img109.imagevenue.com/initial/loc46/24938_vistasonlake2.jpg

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/3905/vistasonlake37dm.jpg

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/8435/vistasonlake3fn.jpg

sdeclue

May 2nd, 2006, 01:49 AM

I don't think that Canton Crossing map is right. They changed what they are doing and Hale is now calling it an upscale Inner Harbor. Looks like less towers in the new one. I remember seeing the rendering in another thread. The cruise ship terminal is somewhere else now.

waj0527

May 2nd, 2006, 02:23 PM

sdeclue

May 3rd, 2006, 12:16 AM

Wait, what overview of Canton Crossing? Is there a new rendering?

scando

May 3rd, 2006, 04:13 AM

Everytime I see the overview of Canton Crossing I get so ANGRY!!! I couldnt HATE those surface parking lots more. Not only did he scale back the height, but the whole second half of that parcel is flat. Not cool Ed.

My bet's on the theory that it is room for "Canton Crossing II". If it were really intended as permanent parking for the buildings, it would have been more integrated into the buildings, a sort of urban version of Hunt Valley.

StevenW

May 3rd, 2006, 10:41 AM

Westport catches developer's eye
Builder of Locust Point project shows interest in 'Harbor West'
By Lorraine Mirabella
Sun reporter
Originally published May 3, 2006

One of the first national builders to make a foray into Baltimore in years with a project in Locust Point is pursuing another new townhouse development in the city - on the industrial shoreline of Westport along the Middle Branch.

Pulte Homes, which has traditionally built in suburbia but began looking at urban markets about four years ago, could build 400 to 700 townhouses and condominiums in what has been dubbed "Harbor West," a Pulte representative said during a business forum yesterday. But any plans hinge on Pulte finalizing an agreement with the developer of a proposed mixed-use community in Westport, Patrick Turner of Henrietta Development Corp.

The Westport project would extend a wave of redevelopment around Baltimore's waterfront, with pricey condos, shops and offices transforming formerly industrial land extending from Canton to Locust Point.

Yesterday's comments from Pulte offered a preliminary peek at Turner's plans for a 28-acre waterfront parcel he began assembling in 2004 from former industrial sites along Kloman Street. The developer has long talked of creating a mix of housing, retail and offices but has not disclosed details and has not filed plans with the city. Turner could not be reached yesterday for comment.

At the same time, investors have been buying up Westport rowhouses in anticipation that the demand for housing on or near the waterfront would extend to the long-struggling neighborhood.

Pulte's interest in Westport isn't surprising, given the homebuilder's shift into urban markets four years ago as land has become more scarce and its success with its first Baltimore venture, said John McIlwain, a senior fellow for housing with the Urban Land Institute in Washington.

"What you're seeing is that Pulte, having made the decision to go into cities and having decided to give Baltimore a try, they've invested a whole lot of time and effort in learning how to operate in Baltimore and decided that for the right property, there's a market," McIlwain said. "If you find land at the right time and the right place on waterfront that's about to be redeveloped, that could easily be a home run. They're saying housing bubble or no housing bubble, long term, urban housing is going to be strong and Baltimore housing, in the right area, is going to be strong."

Pulte views Baltimore as a strong residential market because of the city's development boom, its anticipated job growth and its pro-growth attitude toward developers, Rod Hart, vice president of operations for Pulte's Maryland division said yesterday at a breakfast event sponsored by the Downtown Partnership.

"Pulte wants to continue participating in this renaissance," said Hart, who was a panel member in a program focused on national businesses' attraction to Baltimore.

The builder's McHenry Pointe project is more than half sold, with 97 homes either sold or under contract, for prices that started in the low- to mid-$500,000 range, said Michael J. McCann, the builder's Maryland division's director of land engineering and entitlements.

The townhouse community near Fort McHenry in Locust Point forms the gateway to Silo Point, a $400 million conversion of a 1920s-vintage grain terminal into 221 luxury waterfront condos that is also under development by Turner. The McHenry Pointe townhouses - which promote rear-entry, two-car garages, rooftop decks and views of the water or the city skyline as selling points - have been snapped up by empty-nesters and young professionals, Hart said. But the urban landscape hasn't come without its challenges, he said, including working around aging infrastructure and the difficulty in attracting families with children.

In Westport, Pulte would also work with Turner, who is planning the mixed--use development. The traditionally blue-collar residential community of narrow rowhouses has struggled with vacancies, housing code violations and declining home ownership. But Hart told the business group yesterday that the waterfront site offers a prime opportunity to be part of a well-planned transit-oriented development centered on a light rail stop.

Turner controls more than half of the 50 acres of Westport shoreline that the city wants to see redeveloped. Last summer, Turner's Inner Harbor West LLC signed a contract to buy the 12-acre site of a shuttered BGE power plant from Constellation Energy Group. In November 2004, Inner Harbor West bought the former Carr-Lowrey glass manufacturing plant on 16 acres on Kloman Street - next to the BGE plant - at auction for $6.82 million.

Residents of neighboring communities of Westport, Mount Winans and Lakeland are hopeful a waterfront redevelopment would offer access to a the waterfront, with a promenade and access to Middle Branch Park.

"We had asked that whatever company comes in, they would work with the older community so there's some kind of connection, rather than you all are over here and the older communities are somewhere else, so that's one of the big concerns," said Linda Towe, executive director of TOOUR (Teaching our Own Understanding and Responsibility) an umbrella group of Westport, Mount Winans and Lakeland. She said plans to develop a "Main Street" from Annapolis Road to Kloman Street and the waterfront would help rid the area of blighted properties, but at the same time she wants to make sure homeowners don't get displaced.

A final draft of an urban renewal plan for Westport's waterfront, which should be finished by the end of the month, would set guidelines for development such as building heights, setbacks, streetscapes and the treatment of the water's edge, said Gary Cole, chief of the land-use and urban design division for the city's Department of Planning. Planners are trying to balance protection of environmentally sensitive areas of the shoreline with commercial and residential development.

Within the next few months, planners hope to submit the renewal plan for City Council approval. At that point Turner would have to submit preliminary plans outlining details of development. The Turner-controlled properties have been rezoned for mixed-use development - including townhouses and condos in midrise and high-rise buildings, retail, offices and parking - Cole said.

"The goal is to get the best possible development of waterfront property," Cole said. "We have the Inner Harbor, and the promenade along Fells Point and Canton, but there is a limit to waterfront property, and this may be close to the last opportunity to really do high-quality development on the waterfront and connect the waterfront with the surrounding communities."

lorraine.mirabella@baltsun.com

waj0527

May 3rd, 2006, 05:22 PM

Honestly....Baltimore's efforts and willingness to re-introduce communities and neighborhoods to their waterfront is only surpassed, in my opinion, by what Bloomberg and Pataki are doing in New York.

The whole Westport area could have continued to sit idle and waste away, but the city has rezoned the land for residential use and renamed the area to make it more marketable. Its great. With the Aquarium facility in the works and the public waterfront park already planned, this neighborhood already shaping up to be something pretty special. Not Harbor East special...but still special.

FITCH

May 3rd, 2006, 06:51 PM

I cant wait to see the renderings for the main street at harbour west. I have heard that some highrise condos are to be built next to harour hospital. I also here that sams club and walmart are planning a move or sale of some sort. I also know that investors are buying in cherry hill. who would of thought....

waj0527

May 3rd, 2006, 09:08 PM

The Pinnacle at Harborview
Units starting between $1million and $2million
http://www.dcestonian.com/baltimore/innerharbor/harborview/pinnacle/view_sm_2006a.jpg

http://www.harborviewcommunity.com/pinnacle/images/pinnacle_13.jpg

Harborview is clearly positioning itself as a real force in dowtown living. After years of just having the main tower and the townhomes...now they have the Pier homes, The Pinnacle tower and the Lofts in the pipeline. And people dont seem to mind paying $2 million or more for one of their units.

tybalt

May 4th, 2006, 01:23 PM

waj and stevenw - thanks for the help

FITCH

May 8th, 2006, 05:55 PM

Is it true Balt city hotels have more convention space than most on the East coast. I hear the hotels are just waiting to turn that spce into casinos. What does Trump own out here. I keep hearing how he is waiting to make some moves????

waj0527

May 8th, 2006, 06:01 PM

I dont think Trump is in the Baltimore market at all. He's been in the area quite a bit during the last two years with the Miss USA stuff. He has to be aware of the potential of the area. Maybe he's holding out for something.

As for the convention space and casino rumors...I havent heard either of those. I'd find both difficult to believe though. We're not getting casinos anytime soon and other east coast cities are far better served in the hotel catagory.

FITCH

May 13th, 2006, 06:23 PM

I am looking for a new thead on Balto. Does one exist.

waj0527

May 15th, 2006, 04:25 PM

^Baltimore Development News #14 can be found under the Northeast U.S. sub-forum.

waj0527

May 19th, 2006, 03:07 PM

******News of another 'New Tallest' in Baltimore*********

Just weeks after the Baltimore Planning Commision approved plans for and design of '10 Inner Harbor', a 59-story, glass-and-steel tower which was slated to become the city's tallest, the Baltimore Daily Record reports that another developer is planning two 60+ story towers just north of City Hall. These two buildings would be the tallest towers in the city.

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Developers quietly plan for two city skyscrapers
RWN, Bresler want to erect towers of 60 stories or more near Baltimore’s City Hall
By JEN DEGREGORIO
Daily Record Business Writer

The developers who in 2004 bought a portfolio of Baltimore office buildings once owned by Boxer Property have been quietly buying up more properties downtown in hopes of building the city’s tallest skyscrapers. RWN Development Inc. and Rockville-based Bresler & Reiner Inc. bought or have under contract about 10 properties just north of City Hall. The buildings give them control of nearly two city blocks, on which they are planning to erect two mixed-use towers that could rise 60 stories or higher.

“We want these to be the tallest buildings in Baltimore,” said RWN President Richard Naing. “We want to change that entire side of downtown.” The bustle of downtown fades as one travels north of City Hall along Holliday Street. The area has little street life. Parking lots and drab buildings reign.

But Naing hopes to change all of that. His firm recently bought the Saratoga Court apartment building on the corner of Saratoga Street and Guilford Avenue and the garage beside it. Also under contract is the building beside the garage where nightclub Hammerjacks currently operates on Guilford Avenue. RWN plans to close Hammerjacks on May 29, potentially filling it with a restaurant. On top of that building and the adjacent garage, the developers want to construct a tower that would contain about 1 million square feet of space.

Naing’s plan includes ground level retail, parking, assisted-living units and condominiums. He wants many of the units to be priced somewhat affordably at about $250,000 each. “The secret to the future is affordable housing,” Naing said. Statistics compiled by the Downtown Partnership of Baltimore Inc. echo Naing’s sentiment. Industry experts surveyed by the partnership said condominiums priced at $500,000 and below would do well downtown, while units priced between $750,000 and $800,000 were becoming overbuilt.

RWN also owns the building where Sonar nightclub currently operates on East Saratoga Street. The company and its partner also bought or have under contract about six properties along North Gay and Holliday streets. The properties comprise a large chunk of that block, with East Saratoga Street and an alley bordering the site to the north and south.

There RWN and Bresler plan to build a second tower, also with 1 million square feet of space dedicated to a mix of uses. While Naing’s primary focus is on condominiums, he said he would be open to possible office or hotel uses for the buildings. Before they could materialize, the towers need a good deal of planning and city approvals. But Naing said if everything goes according to schedule, the projects could be under way by 2008 and delivered by 2010.

Architects have not yet been chosen. Naing said he is negotiating with a number of “recognizable international names” to design the towers, which he wants to be “signature properties.” The preliminary idea has already won the support of city development officials.

“I was excited and intrigued about the potential of really activating that area,” said Otis Rolley III, director of the Baltimore Department of Planning. “It comes down to how it is designed, and if it’s done respectfully, it can be a real victory for the developer as well for the city,” Rolley said. RWN and Bresler’s plans follow news that Philadelphia developer ARC Wheeler was approved to build a 59-story condominium tower at the former McCormick spice plant lot along Baltimore’s Inner Harbor.

Both projects speak well of Baltimore’s continued growth, said J. Kirby Fowler, president of the Downtown Partnership of Baltimore. “It’s further proof of development well beyond the waterfront,” Fowler said of RWN’s planned skyscrapers. “We can definitely afford some taller structures and greater density downtown.”

StevenW

May 19th, 2006, 10:38 PM

Beautiful!!! I could just cry! :)

CU_rak

May 19th, 2006, 10:52 PM

OMFG is all I can say right now... soooooo happy!!!

Audiomuse

May 20th, 2006, 12:09 AM

Wow Baltimore is doing magnificent!

waj0527

May 20th, 2006, 05:29 AM

***Progress being made at 'The Vue' condo tower***

http://www.baltimoreguy.com/images/Photographs%20Balto%202006%20Page%2010%2001.jpg

Here's the rendering ('The Vue' is the 32 story tower in the picture.)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/negative352/6vpres2-b_layout1__1__lowres_6_04.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/negative352/607-01-04_copy_low_res.jpg

StevenW

May 20th, 2006, 06:11 AM

http://www.baltimoreguy.com/images/Photographs%20Balto%202006%20Page%2010%2001.jpg
great pic!

Liwwadden

May 21st, 2006, 01:44 PM

looks nice

StevenW

May 21st, 2006, 02:40 PM

^^ yes, that whole area will look very nice when completed. Thanks. :) ^^

FITCH

May 21st, 2006, 05:26 PM

Cant wait to see all that is to happen at harbor point.

fluffyhorse

May 22nd, 2006, 02:21 AM

Another view of Harbor East
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/512/harboreaststreet0iv.jpg

This Maglev station is probably a long way off but I really like the concept
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/204/maglevrendering72large3sc.gif

fanofterps

May 22nd, 2006, 02:28 AM

of Harbor Point. They are going to break ground on 2 condo buildings, an office building, and retail this summer/fall.

StevenW

May 22nd, 2006, 02:38 AM

^^ Yeah, that'll be something to see. :)

waj0527

May 23rd, 2006, 02:50 PM

Another article referencing the new tallest proposals

City construction stills the music again
By JEN DEGREGORIO
Daily Record Business Writer
May 23, 2006

The Hammerjacks nightclub was resurrected on Baltimore’s East Side after losing its West Side home to stadium parking. On Saturday the club will be quieted again in order to make room for a 60-story mixed-use tower. “Yes, the rumors are true. May 27 Hammerjacks will be closing their doors forever.”

That is the voice-mail message left by Hammerjacks, a Baltimore nightclub once legendary for luring big-name rock performers to Charm City during the 1980s and 1990s. The club has traveled a tortuous path to its current incarnation as a venue for the hip-hop and dance set. Hammerjacks was forced to move from its long-time home on South Howard Street in 1997 to make room for parking spaces for Camden Yards and M&T Bank Stadium. It reopened in 2000 on Guilford Avenue just north of City Hall and led a more humble existence ever since.

Once again the club will close. Developers are buying the Hammerjacks building at 316 Guilford Ave. as part of a footprint on which plans call for a 60-story skyscraper that could be completed by 2010. The deal is expected to close Monday. “Hammerjacks has been an institution in this city for quite some time,” said J. Kirby Fowler, president of the Downtown Partnership of Baltimore Inc. “I’m not sure if it will resurrect itself elsewhere.”

Although the Hammerjacks voice-mail said the club will close its doors “forever,” it is unclear whether a new club by the same name would open in another Baltimore location. Club owner Michael Hunter did not return phone calls for comment. “Hammerjacks was successful as a place to go party,” said Mariano Mumpower, a Baltimore DJ who goes by the stage name Soulminer. “They had hip-hop shows. Big names in gangster rap music came there.”

Fowler said he regrets seeing an end to the era. But he believes new construction and residents will be better for downtown. “Downtown still is the spot for night life, and the loss of one bar won’t hurt that image one bit,” Fowler told The Daily Record in an interview last week

For many, the Hammerjacks era ended when the club closed in 1997, said Bud Becker, an advertising and marketing consultant for the club from 1986 to 1992. Band Guns ‘N’ Roses made its East Coast debut at Hammerjacks, he said. Nirvana, Poison and Motley Crue were among other bands whose tour buses stopped there.

“It was the premier rock venue on the East Coast,” Becker said.

Original owner Lou Principio reluctantly sold the building to the city in 1997 to make way for the stadium parking, according to reports that year in the Baltimore Sun. Principio then reopened the club on Guilford, targeting a different demographic. But the Hammerjacks on Guilford never became the icon for hip-hop fans that the South Howard venue was for rock fans, Mumpower said.

“You don’t really hear too much about it because Power Plant Live has really taken over a lot of that dance crowd,” Becker said, referring to the sprawling downtown complex created by developer The Cordish Co. According to land records, Principio sold the Guilford Hammerjacks in 2004 to 316 Guilford Avenue LLC, a limited liability company that lists Hunter, the club’s new owner, as the property’s resident agent.

The music will stop altogether at 316 Guilford Ave., now controlled by RWN Development Inc. and Rockville-based Bresler & Reiner Inc. The developers are flirting with the idea of opening a restaurant in the space while they finalize their plans to build a 60-story, mixed-use tower there.

The companies also plan to build another 60-story tower just blocks away from the Hammerjacks spot, on top of property where a more rock-oriented club, Sonar, operates on Saratoga Street. One…., another nightclub, sits on the opposite side of Saratoga Street. Mumpower wonders what effect the towers will have on the area’s music scene. “That completely changes that whole area,” Mumpower said.
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