View Full Version : Boundary Park Stadium Redevelopment | Oldham | 12,000 Capacity


kebabmonster
February 18th, 2006, 09:20 PM
New stadium for the town of Oldham, Lancashire.

Will host soccer (Oldham Athletic) and Rugby League (Oldham Roughyeds)

Announced on the 17th Feb, after a long process.

Details and pictures:

http://www.oldhamadvertiser.co.uk/news/s/209/209305_latics_new_80m_goal.html?rss=yes

Sir Miles Platting
February 18th, 2006, 11:48 PM
I thought they didn't like rugger to be played on soccer pitches?
Summat to do with churning up the turf.

I know they play RL finals at OT and they always seem to complain about the state of the pitch afterwards.

Although they've had problems with the OT turf now for years, regardless of the RL final.....

Sparks
February 18th, 2006, 11:56 PM
Is Oldham in Manchester?

ferge
February 18th, 2006, 11:58 PM
Well the JJB is shared between Latics and Warriors

CharlieP
February 19th, 2006, 03:20 PM
I thought they didn't like rugger to be played on soccer pitches?
Summat to do with churning up the turf.

They didn't, but with advances in turf technology it's not so much of a problem these days - in the Guinness Premiership Bristol share with Bristol Rovers, London Irish share with Reading, Saracens share with Watford and Wasps share with Wycombe, and in Super League Huddersfield Giants share with Huddersfield Town, Hull F.C. share with Hull City and Wigan Warriors share with Wigan Athletic...

vertigosufferer
February 19th, 2006, 03:38 PM
Well it can only be a good thing if it comes off. However we have been here before with promises of a new stadium or refurbished/modernised stadium, and they've dissapeared into the twilight zone. If it does happen, I hope they keep the Boundary Park name though, it'll be silly if it's known as the Stadium sponsored by Daz Automatic. etc...


Is Oldham in Manchester?]

7-10 miles North East of Manchester City Centre (depending on which part of Oldham you live in) within the boundaries of Greater Manchester Metropolitan Borough.

http://www.manchester2002-uk.com/maps/townships.jpg

Latic
February 19th, 2006, 06:13 PM
This is the third such plan for us and the most plausable. A hotel, fitness centre, and office space are included. Basically it's going to be built over the existing ground one stand at a time. In order to fund it the large car park with surrounds three sides will be turned into houses and apartments. It looks very similar to the JJB.

It's far better than earlier -wasteful- twin stadium plan.

Second highest football league ground the country you know....

spud
March 4th, 2006, 01:14 PM
boundary park is the 3rd highest in the country....after west brom & port vale

Chogmook
December 12th, 2007, 02:24 AM
Redevelopment approved!

spud
December 12th, 2007, 01:25 PM
aye it was..

latest renders of the apartments that caused all the trouble

http://www.oldhamathletic.premiumtv.co.uk/javaImages/35/53/0,,10337~3494709,00.jpg
http://www.oldhamathletic.premiumtv.co.uk/javaImages/37/53/0,,10337~3494711,00.jpg
http://www.oldhamathletic.premiumtv.co.uk/javaImages/38/53/0,,10337~3494712,00.jpg

and the stadium,of which 3 side will be new and the 4th renovated.
http://www.oldhamathletic.premiumtv.co.uk/javaImages/4e/ba/0,,10337~3193422,00.jpg

JamesWales
December 12th, 2007, 06:41 PM
Looks smart, but doesn't seem fantastic value for £80m, especially as it's only 16,000 and doesn't look necessarily the easiest to expand. Especially when you factor in the inevitable overspend.

leonardhenry
December 12th, 2007, 07:32 PM
Looks tidy enough. I'm not sure about RL and football sharing, all-seater RL grounds don't sit right with me. Do Oldham RL still play at, what was it, either the Watersheddings or Wilderspool, I went yonks ago?

JamesWales
December 13th, 2007, 12:12 AM
Looks tidy enough. I'm not sure about RL and football sharing, all-seater RL grounds don't sit right with me. Do Oldham RL still play at, what was it, either the Watersheddings or Wilderspool, I went yonks ago?

Aye, one thing worse than an all seater rugby ground is an all-seater football ground. At least they'll never force the Revie Kop to sit down at Elland road.

spud
December 13th, 2007, 09:56 AM
Looks smart, but doesn't seem fantastic value for £80m, especially as it's only 16,000 and doesn't look necessarily the easiest to expand. Especially when you factor in the inevitable overspend.

it's £80million for everything,the stadium,700 apartments,hotel,fitness centre etc..

Looks tidy enough. I'm not sure about RL and football sharing, all-seater RL grounds don't sit right with me. Do Oldham RL still play at, what was it, either the Watersheddings or Wilderspool, I went yonks ago?

we, i'm a oldham RLFC fan first, played at watershedding but we sold that to the council 10 years ago, who shafted us royally and have failed to produce the promised ground since then..we've been at boundary ever since apart from a year when the old oldham athletic chairman wanted daft rent from us and every summer we get kicked out of boundary park for pitch repairs even though other clubs like wigan & hull,who have football & rugby played on them don't seem to have the problem we seem to have..we can't see the problem either cause the pitch @ boundary park is excellent all year round..

as good as the new stadium is going to be...it's not oldham RLFC's stadium and we are looking into getting our own stadium...nothing big or fancy,just somewhere to call our home.

jrb
July 22nd, 2009, 11:13 AM
A much prefered new venue in my opinion. Link below Crains article. Tha't'll be 3 football stadiums connected via the new Metrolink expansion plans. (or is it 5 with Bury and Rochdale?) County would make it 6 eventually.


Oldham Athletic announce new £20m stadium proposal
By Michael Fahy


Oldham Athletic Football Club and Oldham Council have announced plans for a new £20 million football stadium development and community facilities at a 30-acre site in Failsworth, north Manchester.

The club, which had been forced to shelve earlier plans for a new stadium after previous developer and club sponsor Hillstone Developments went into administration, is close to completing a deal to buy the Lancaster Club at the junction between Broadway and Oldham Road from BAE Systems. This would be combined with an adjoining Council-owned site to create a new 12,000 capacity stadium with associated community sports facilities and corporate/leisure developments.

The club will also sell its existing Boundary Park home for housing development, with key worker homes being created for employees of the nearby Royal Oldham Hospital.

The scheme is to be put before Oldham Council’s cabinet tonight to gain outline planning consent.

Council leader Howard Sykes said that the scheme still had “a long way to go”, but added that it could provide regeneration for two areas that are in need of investment.

"Oldham Athletic in its present state is haemorrhaging money in a crumbling stadium and is not financially viable in the long-term,” he said. “The club's owners have long sought a solution and we were happy to work with them when they approached us with this innovative plan.

"The recent confirmation that Metrolink is coming to the borough also makes this proposition highly attractive. That would provide convenient, reliable and regular transport access to the area for those not travelling by car and I also understand club officials plan to talk with regional transport officials about a potential matchday tram stop.

"There will obviously be plenty of talking to be done with local residents and affected groups - some of which is already underway - and I am confident that their views will be reflected in any final proposal for the good of the whole community.”

Oldham Athletic's managing director and co-owner Simon Corney said that his consortium had been trying to sort out a new stadium deal since buying the club six years ago.

“"In its current state Oldham Athletic is dying. Our revenue fell 20 per cent again last year and we're now attracting attendances on a par with many League Two clubs. This new vision gives us an opportunity to provide a facility that will create new revenue streams to make the club financially viable and self-sustaining, whilst also giving supporters a superior matchday experience.

“We haven't taken the decision to leave Boundary Park lightly - it was our preferred option to redevelop it - but the credit crunch means the land value and market conditions have diminished to an extent which makes that scheme no longer economically viable.”

Subject to council approval, Oldham Athletic will next commission architects to work up more comprehensive plans. The club then expects to submit a detailed application to be considered by the borough's Planning Committee by the end of 2009. If successful, they would then sign a 24-month conditional development agreement to start work on the land owned by Oldham Council. Upon completion, the club would then sign a long-term lease with the local authority.

http://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/page/NewsUpdate/0,,10337~1728419,00.html#continue

Irish Blood English Heart
July 23rd, 2009, 11:59 AM
Wonder if FC United would be interested in sharing? It's certainly nearer their spiritual home in Newton Heath, near the metrolink, and would bring in added revenue to get the stadium built.

TheGrand
July 23rd, 2009, 10:05 PM
Wonder if FC United would be interested in sharing? It's certainly nearer their spiritual home in Newton Heath, near the metrolink, and would bring in added revenue to get the stadium built.

I would hope we'd be on our way to securing our own place by then,

But if not then you are right, but for me it would depend heavily on Oldham's fanbase reaction to this move, put it this way, I dont think it would be too clever if FC associated itself with this ground if Oldham has taken the piss out of their supporters in moving there.

In any case FC's main objective in the short and medium term must be a place of our own, even if that is a mile from this new ground :nuts:

Salif
July 23rd, 2009, 10:10 PM
I would hope we'd be on our way to securing our own place by then,

But if not then you are right, but for me it would depend heavily on Oldham's fanbase reaction to this move, put it this way, I dont think it would be too clever if FC associated itself with this ground if Oldham has taken the piss out of their supporters in moving there.

In any case FC's main objective in the short and medium term must be a place of our own, even if that is a mile from this new ground :nuts:

I don't understand why you don't share somewhere like Moss Lane or the Bower Fold?

Being an annual visitor to the Bower Fold I can vouch for it's suitability ;)

TheGrand
July 23rd, 2009, 10:22 PM
I don't understand why you don't share somewhere like Moss Lane or the Bower Fold?

Being an annual visitor to the Bower Fold I can vouch for it's suitability ;)

FC have played at both grounds more than once mate and a good time was had by all :cheers:.

For the past 2 seasons at least, the board has looked into other options in Greater Manchester and the truth is that Bury, although a financial ball and chain, at present is the only ground suitable for FC, if factoring in transport, capacity, local authority, policing, stewarding, ground rent, bar takings, accessibility, relationship with Landlord etc.

I reckon now we're there until we get somewhere of our own, this Oldham thing is interesting, but like I say, its probably not totally ideal.

Isaac Newell
July 24th, 2009, 12:00 AM
I don't understand how people seem to miss the point of FC United.

Independence, doing things the FC United way and that means owning and operating our own stadium.

heatonparkincakes
July 24th, 2009, 12:48 AM
Has any renderings plans or even a design been proposed for this.

Heard from some disgruntled yonners that its touching cloth with the Manchester-Oldham border at the Memorial Pk.

Big discussion (which I grinned and endured) on whether Failsworth is or isnt Oldhamite enough. In two generations it won't matter i suspect.

Also heard from my FC contacts that basically its the right side of town, but no way are they sharing again.So go figure that one?

The community and design aspect of these grounds is all that interests me.

Salif
July 24th, 2009, 02:17 PM
and that means owning and operating our own stadium.

Which you currently don't so obviously not everything is done the 'FC United way' just yet.

Isaac Newell
July 24th, 2009, 03:13 PM
Which you currently don't so obviously not everything is done the 'FC United way' just yet.

I don't see the point of that comment to be honest.

Salif
July 24th, 2009, 06:10 PM
I don't see the point of that comment to be honest.

I didn't see the point of yours either.

Isaac Newell
July 24th, 2009, 06:12 PM
I didn't see the point of yours either.

At least mine explained a position, yours leads nowhere.

Salif
July 24th, 2009, 06:17 PM
At least mine explained a position, yours leads nowhere.

What position was that?

The one about FC United owning and operating their own stadium as it was the FC United way?

Despite the fact currently they have to use Bury's ground, which was my point.

It might be the intention but it's not currently the 'FC United way'.

Your post was about explanitive as mine - you'll have to tell me where it was supposed to lead.

Isaac Newell
July 24th, 2009, 06:30 PM
But we all know they share the ground with Bury, what people don't seem to know or wish to know is that the intention is to own our own stadium, not to enter into a ground share.

You are intimating that FCU should continue with this policy when it is the clubs intention not to. The fact that the club is still sharing is neither here nor there, it is not what the club was set up to do nor is it what the club desires to do so my use of the phrase the FC United way was meant to explain that.

The FC United way is to be independent and part of this independence is to ultimately own their own stadium.

You stated that at the moment they don't. In the words of Basil Faulty specialized subject, the bleedin' obvious.

That doesn't mean that the goal will not or must not be reached.

Your comment went no further than to state the obvious.

Salif
July 24th, 2009, 06:36 PM
But we all know they share the ground with Bury, what people don't seem to know or wish to know is that the intention is to own our own stadium, not to enter into a ground share.

You are intimating that FCU should continue with this policy when it is the clubs intention not to. The fact that the club is still sharing is neither here nor there, it is not what the club was set up to do nor is it what the club desires to do so my use of the phrase the FC United way was meant to explain that.

The FC United way is to be independent and part of this independence is to ultimately own their own stadium.

You stated that at the moment they don't. In the words of Basil Faulty specialized subject, the bleedin' obvious.

That doesn't mean that the goal will not or must not be reached.

Your comment went no further than to state the obvious.

I'd imagine that intention would go without saying and from one non-leaguer to another I hope it happens asap. But for now until you can build yourself a home of your own then I was suggesting a more compact venue which can still cope with your crowds but hopefully also offer up lower matchday expenses as well. That way maybe you wouldn't have a repeat of losing players like Rory Patterson to cheque book charlies like Bradford Park Avenue as you'd have a bit more of your own money to spend?

I wasn't suggesting Altrincham or Stalybridge as a permanent home.

Isaac Newell
July 24th, 2009, 06:39 PM
I'd imagine that intention would go without saying and from one non-leaguer to another I hope it happens asap. But for now until you can build yourself a home of your own then I was suggesting a more compact venue which can still cope with your crowds but hopefully also offer up lower matchday expenses as well. That way maybe you wouldn't have a repeat of losing players like Rory Patterson to cheque book charlies like Bradford Park Avenue as you'd have a bit more of your own money to spend?

I wasn't suggesting Altrincham or Stalybridge as a permanent home.

Then you should have said that and all this nonesense could have been avoided.

Salif
July 24th, 2009, 06:47 PM
Then you should have said that and all this nonesense could have been avoided.

Whilst I never properly clarified I never actually said it should be a permanent arrangement either. You just read into it that way and assumed that was what I meant. You are as guilty as assuming the wrong thing as I am of not being clear enough ;)

Isaac Newell
July 24th, 2009, 06:51 PM
I'm not admitting any guilt.

Salif
July 24th, 2009, 06:58 PM
:lol::lol: