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jrb
February 24th, 2006, 01:59 PM
3 Hardman Street should have it's own thread. :)

3 Hardman Street

3 Hardman Street will be a major headquarters building totalling some 360,000 sq ft of office space with floor plates ranging from 8,000 to 35,000 sq ft. It has been uniquely designed to provide the ability to divide each floor into 2,3 or 4 arts in order to provide a comprehensive range of floor plate sizes of 10, 20, 30 and 35,000 sq ft. This building will offer one of the largest single floor plates in the city of Manchester and ensures maximum use of floor space through cellular office design with an emphasis on security, management and resilience. It also provides excellent brand opportunities due to the 2 parts of the building that are 12 and 15 floors high respectively. 3 Hardman Street is due to be constructed in Autumn 2006 and is available for pre-lease with completion due for Spring 2008.


Our original concerns about 3 Hardman Street.

http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:lwNtwQxD67QeNM:www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/38723HardmanStreet_pic1.jpg

Note the difference now.

http://www.spinningfields-manchester.com/images/spinningfields/spinning_buildings_3hst_04.jpg

http://www.spinningfields-manchester.com/images/spinningfields/spinning_buildings_3hst_02.jpg

http://www.spinningfields-manchester.com/images/spinningfields/spinning_buildings_3hst_03.jpg

http://www.spinningfields-manchester.com/images/spinningfields/spinning_buildings_3hst_01.jpg

No 3 Hardman Street Planning application.(No 22 according to the Planning officer)

077352/FO/2005/C1

Land Bounded By Austin Street (in Part), Hardman Street And Crown Square (Plot 102/103 In The Adopted Spinningfields Plan)
City

Erection of mixed use development comprising offices (Use Class B1) with ground floor retail use: Use Class A1 (Shop), A2 (Financial and Professional Services), A3 (Restaurant and Cafes) and A5 (Hot Food Takeaways); basement car parking with related access and servicing and associated works

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/zzzwe.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/yank.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/lopi.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/spud.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/gfhf.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/axax.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/qwta.jpg

Cladding.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/lmmncd.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/ksed.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/rascal.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/cvzx.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/jfj.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/vvvm.jpg

http://www.publicaccess.manchester.gov.uk/publicaccess/dc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?caseno=IONYGDBC30000

Some more information on 3 Hardman Street in todays MEN.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/llopolopolop.jpg

Ps. I really must get a life. :)

rolybling
February 24th, 2006, 02:41 PM
they make you laugh the Evening News **"TOWERING"** whats all that about? Nice one jrb, thanks for the info

kids
February 24th, 2006, 05:02 PM
well, it is 75m high. It's a bloody huge building.

kids
February 28th, 2006, 06:16 PM
Last few posts on 3 Hardman St from the spinningfields thread

Larger image of 3 Hardman Street. On site August 06 it says.

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/project/uploaded_files/254_3%20Hardman%20Street.jpg

Sheppard Robson on behalf of Allied London has received planning permission for 3 Hardman Street a 37,000m2 (400,000ft2) landmark office and retail building in Manchester, a key part of the 9ha regeneration of Spinningfields. “One of the challenges in dealing with such a large building - the floor plates range from 35,000ft2 to 10,000 ft2 at the top of the building - was to make it responsive to its wider and local context. Our brief from Allied London was also to ensure liquidity and flexibility within the design”, said Tim Evans creative director at Sheppard Robson. “To address this, the building is broken down by four stepped elements the highest point defining the corner of Hardman Square.” It is due to start on site in August 2005 for completion in early 2008


Interesting shot looking down Hardman Street and into Hardman Square there. Sort of confirms my fears about there perhaps being too much glass cladding being used at Spinningfields.


There's a bit about 3 Hardman Street in the MEN today. Work starting in Spring with proper construction in August of 2006.

I really didn't anticipate this starting this year, i'm looking forward to seeing this monster on the skyline :)

The Longford
February 28th, 2006, 06:41 PM
We saw this scheme at the Historical buildings panel late last year. We asked for some minor design changes and they look like they have responded (which is rare) so as time scales go that sounds about right. This version looks slightly more jaunty than the original - which was a bit bland. I would have prefered on big beast than the three steppy downy type thing but hey - what do i know?

Priscilla QOTD
March 1st, 2006, 02:43 PM
Not much.

jrb
July 7th, 2006, 10:30 PM
Make way you ugly beast. No 3 Hardman Street is coming. :)

Scaffolding almost surrounding the building. Not long before it's demolished!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture210.jpg

highriser
July 7th, 2006, 10:57 PM
here here,,, will be glad to see the back of that alright.

rolybling
July 7th, 2006, 11:02 PM
and so say all of us!

Manchester Planner
July 8th, 2006, 12:00 PM
Why does Skyscrapernews.com have this down as only "proposed"? Surely the actual stage of this tower is approved?

I think someone's forgotten to update the website!

Manchester Planner
July 8th, 2006, 12:01 PM
Sorry, forgot the link:

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=3872

74.9m high... should pop up above the skyline!

highriser
July 8th, 2006, 01:01 PM
just to put it into perspective, it's taller than GN tower :)

Manchester Planner
July 8th, 2006, 02:10 PM
well, by 2.9m.... ;)

Manchester Planner
July 8th, 2006, 02:14 PM
I see someone has quickly changed it to Approved on Skyscrapernews.com :)

Northbeach
July 8th, 2006, 07:11 PM
The old bulding is remarkably similar don't you think....?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture210.jpg

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/project/uploaded_files/254_3%20Hardman%20Street.jpg

The Longford
July 8th, 2006, 07:19 PM
and so say all of us!
...except me!

Bim
July 8th, 2006, 07:21 PM
I think they're both pretty vile...

jrb
July 8th, 2006, 10:49 PM
Projects, offices, 3 Hardman Street.

http://www.sheppardrobson.com/sr_master.html

The Longford
July 8th, 2006, 11:44 PM
Of course, all of us who bothered to turn up instead of buggering off to Milton Keynes and who are now in the SODA gang have seen all of this (and more) already jcb!
Just accept it jerbers - you can post all the links you want but you'll never be in the SODA gang! :baeh3:

jrb
July 9th, 2006, 06:19 PM
Of course, all of us who bothered to turn up instead of buggering off to Milton Keynes and who are now in the SODA gang have seen all of this (and more) already jcb!
Just accept it jerbers - you can post all the links you want but you'll never be in the SODA gang! :baeh3:

Sod(a) off! :wave:

PS. Where were you last year?(cough) :colgate:

The Longford
July 9th, 2006, 09:09 PM
Sod(a) off! :wave:

PS. Where were you last year?(cough) :colgate:

:hahaha:

This year was soooooooo much better than last year anyway!

jrb
August 15th, 2006, 06:55 PM
It's going, slowly but surely.

Taken toady.

Looking from Deansgate.(RBS/John Rylands) Current MEN building to the left, which will also be going soon. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture241.jpg

Looking from Bridge Street.(ish)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture280.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture279.jpg

highriser
October 18th, 2006, 01:05 AM
Here you go MP ,, i thought it had a thread :)

kids
October 18th, 2006, 01:23 AM
Cheers for bringing it to the top H. :)

people were talking about the height, so i thought i'd post this diagram again...just to show exactly how big this beast of a building is.

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/7287/ssc1ri.jpg

andysimo123
October 18th, 2006, 01:29 AM
It doesnt look that tall on renders but its massive.

Manchester Planner
October 18th, 2006, 11:33 AM
Here you go MP ,, i thought it had a thread :)

Ah yes - it was buried!!

Manchester Planner
October 18th, 2006, 12:54 PM
...

majormystery
October 18th, 2006, 12:56 PM
A sign that the CJC might prompt a new legal quarter in Spinningfields perhaps?

Manchester Planner
October 18th, 2006, 12:58 PM
Sorry - I posted a news story about 3 Hardman Square... bit silly how they have a 3 Hardman Square and a 3 Hardman Street.

highriser
October 19th, 2006, 12:17 AM
Still think this should have been in 2 sections rather than 4 , the building would have been taller and more public space.

Still going to be a great building mind :)

Farsight
October 20th, 2006, 11:49 PM
Sounds good to me.

jrb
October 23rd, 2006, 01:41 AM
No3 really does look massive on this render with No2 Spinningfields Square opposite.

http://www.retailpropertyanddevelopment.co.uk/images/stories/aprilmay/spinningfields.jpg

http://www.retailpropertyanddevelopment.co.uk/midlands/manchester-the-new-fashion-capital-2.html

Manchester Planner
January 10th, 2007, 04:56 PM
What's the latest on 3 Hardman Street then? Has demolition of the site finished? Is construction about to start?

Will be the tallest thing under construction in Manchester until Chapel Wharf or Eastgate get under way, no?

GShutty
January 10th, 2007, 05:04 PM
Demolition has started but not yet finished, This and the Armani store, coming close to completion will be areall addition to the city and make Spinningfieldsd fell more finished than a work in progress IMHO. Hopefully Spinnigfields, in terms of steady, but continuous progress, will set the blueprint by which Greengate and the Southern Gateway can work by, after all, all three areas are masterplanned by a single company: Allied London, Ask and Ask respectively.

My guess is that this and Chapel Wharf will rise at around similar times.

Manchester Planner
January 10th, 2007, 05:16 PM
Thanks for that. Chapel Wharf and this beaut are quite close together too. Will add to the density of this area nicely. :)

Metrolink
January 10th, 2007, 05:21 PM
from a personal point of view seeing major office developments in the city centre and Salford Quays brings much more satisfaction that any skyscraper may do.

Give me Spinningfields any day over Beetham or Eastgate, the city lives through creating good employment oppurtunities, with this the city will grow and grow, skyscrapers are a result of these developments.

majormystery
January 10th, 2007, 05:24 PM
from a personal point of view seeing major office developments in the city centre and Salford Quays brings much more satisfaction that any skyscraper may do.

Give me Spinningfields any day over Beetham or Eastgate, the city lives through creating good employment oppurtunities, with this the city will grow and grow, skyscrapers are a result of these developments.

How about an Office skyscraper?
1 Hardman Square perhaps.

highriser
January 18th, 2007, 12:59 AM
Hows the demolition of this site going on ,,, not been down that way for a few weeks , it should start soon after i would have thought , with a pre-let.

Chorltonred
January 18th, 2007, 12:57 PM
They are digging down for foundations now at the end next to the Crown Courts. Making quick work of it too.

jrb
January 26th, 2007, 11:06 PM
Not right, but atleast it shows the progress made so far.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/spin.jpg

jrb
January 26th, 2007, 11:15 PM
Demolition of the old MEN building is containing,(No2 SS) whilst piling has started on No3 HS. CJC in the backgroung and RBS on the left of course. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture229.jpg

Manc Guy
January 27th, 2007, 09:32 AM
Great pic. Thanks JR

hopo
January 29th, 2007, 05:57 PM
really not sure about this one. i think it will be to dominating on the square with that high side and seeminglt featureless corner facing on to it

im also rather worried about the spinningfields area. there doesnt seem to be enough public space, trees, fountains or public art. although it is hard to see this yet there are few real concrete plans and few areas where it could be correctly incorporated.

of even more concern is the blanket glass and steel look of the whole area very dull and im really not a fan. variety is the spice of life an spinnigfields aint tickling my tastebuds as much as it should

highriser
January 29th, 2007, 07:03 PM
I hope they re name this building , 3 Hardman St is so fucking boring .

future.architect
January 29th, 2007, 07:43 PM
the name may be boring but its definately distictive, i love it

highriser
February 15th, 2007, 11:03 PM
Huge hole now at one end of this site , while the other half is nearly demolished ,,, this one will start proper very soon :)

URBANISER
February 16th, 2007, 11:31 AM
The hole is for the underground carpark, ref one of the guys on site the other day.

highriser
February 18th, 2007, 05:08 PM
The base of a crane is in place at the Crown Sq end of the site , once the other side as been completly demolished this beauty will be all systems GO :)

Manchester Planner
February 18th, 2007, 05:22 PM
Excellent - this will be the tallest building under construction on the Manchester side of the Irwell (the Salford side has Chapel Wharf).

highriser
February 19th, 2007, 06:54 PM
Great vantage point to see this one rise ,,top of the steps of the old crown court building .

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1285.jpg?t=1171907535

GShutty
February 20th, 2007, 09:26 AM
Great vantage point to see this one rise ,,top of the steps of the old crown court building .

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1285.jpg?t=1171907535

Brilliant Highriser! How good does the RBS building that fronts Deansgate look. Sexy Ass!

andysimo123
February 20th, 2007, 12:57 PM
They don't mess about do they. 3 weeks and its nearly gone.

skymann
February 20th, 2007, 02:36 PM
Great vantage point to see this one rise ,,top of the steps of the old crown court building .

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1285.jpg?t=1171907535

Hardly seems enough space for the massive office block that's gonna go up here.

Legin
February 24th, 2007, 02:59 PM
Crane going up

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/legin3/DSCN0774.jpg

Manchester Planner
February 24th, 2007, 06:34 PM
Therefore it can now be said to be under construction and is currently Manchester's tallest building under construction (at 75m).

jrb
March 3rd, 2007, 12:00 AM
Taken today. Are you watching BSC.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture336.jpg

Beetham soon to vanish behind the 22 Stories of glass.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture335.jpg

andysimo123
March 3rd, 2007, 12:20 AM
It really puts it into perspective of how shit BSC really are. I mean give it afew weeks and I bet they'll start building the thing.

flange
March 13th, 2007, 05:29 PM
Barclays' £2.2m surplus offices

BARCLAYS chiefs will decide this week what to do with the 80,000 sq ft office suite they no longer need, following Barclaycard's shock decision to pull out of Manchester.

But the decision comes amid warnings from landlord Allied London that the bank cannot escape from its £2.2m a year lease at the Deansgate office block.

Barclays announced last Tuesday that the firm's Barclaycard call centre in Dickinson Street will close in July, with 400 jobs moving to Teesside and 200 to the Indian cities of Mumbai and Delhi.

It leaves bosses with a property headache, in the form of an agreement to lease 80,000 sq ft in a 350,000 sq ft office block at 3 Hardman Street, part of the Spinningfield office scheme at Deansgate.

The Hardman Street block, leased for 15 years at a rent understood to be more than £2m a year, was to have replaced the call centre in Dickinson Street.

"The situation will become clearer this week," said one source close to the bank.

Speculation is mounting that the bank could decide to sub-let the offices. Property market observers say a number of city professional firms would jump at the chance to take newly built office space, especially if Barclays discount the £2m a year rent.

Obligations

However, Allied London's chief executive Mike Ingall has warned Barclays bosses that they cannot escape their legal obligations at 3 Hardman Street.

Speaking exclusively to the M.E.N., he said: "The Barclays Group has signed a 15-year lease with us at Hardman Street and are legally obliged to take that lease, to take possession of the property, to fit it out and to occupy it.

"I'll wait for Barclays to come and talk to us - but as far as we're concerned we have a tenant who has signed up for some of the best real estate in the city for the next 15 years."

"Barclays will find a way to occupy it, and it is for them to decide how."

Earlier, in a statement, Mr Ingall commented: "It is clearly disappointing, particularly for the staff of Barclaycard, to learn of this move of important jobs to offshore locations.

"However, securing this floor space at 3 Hardman Street will ensure that Barclay Group do at least have a prime, flexible, state-of-the-art space, which can only enhance their occupational portfolio and provide a potential opportunity to other parts of t he group."

Construction work on the office block at 3 Hardman Street is now underway. It is due for completion in autumn, 2008.

The Longford
March 13th, 2007, 06:02 PM
^^ The world is a fucked up place sometimes.

skit_uk
March 13th, 2007, 06:22 PM
Do you think there is a chance Barclay's might be about to announce moving a large amount of back room operations up here from wherever?

I've a feeling we could be in for some major good news.

macc
March 13th, 2007, 06:49 PM
Ill give them £200 a month and I'll move in.

Do you think there is a chance Barclay's might be about to announce moving a large amount of back room operations up here from wherever?


Probably not, It'd be easier to sublet it.

But if they just happened to be considering a bit of office moving then it'd be perfect. They're always looking for places to shift people around here at my place. The difference is most staff here are all already in the same part of the same city.

As someone mentioned before it seems strange that they intended to put a call centre here, rather than out in the sticks as is the norm. I think it just shows how relatively small a dent in the pocket this place is.

Mackem
March 16th, 2007, 01:14 AM
Whether or not Barclays can sub-let this depends on the rent they were/are going to pay. Spinningfields is some of the most expensive property in Manchester. Barclays are also short of space at Canary Wharf apparently (read the London forums), if MIDAS can get their fingers out, there may be something worth having here, but there is a bit of a mountain to climb to get this.

jrb
March 17th, 2007, 01:51 PM
Posted by Man Med.

Images and movie.

It's a wonderful beast!!

:eek2:

http://www.ahd-imaging.com/projects.php?p=10

mikeboss
March 17th, 2007, 03:27 PM
That looks awesome much nicer and better quality than ive seen on the renders, its much larger than it looks aswell the design is really quite deceptive i do like can't wait for it to get underway.

Architecty
March 17th, 2007, 03:35 PM
Not so sure myself, seems to have got fussier with detail; it always seemed so confidently solid and chunky. Had been keen up till now, will have to see.

Manchester Planner
March 17th, 2007, 05:32 PM
I think this will be one of the great commercial buildings of Manchester! For a start - it's huge! 75m (taller than the GN Tower) and so wide too. The atrium shown on the video looks brill... very impressed - if I were a large company I'd move my offices there!

highriser
April 13th, 2007, 02:04 PM
3rd crane looks like its about to go up

Tristan1
April 13th, 2007, 03:07 PM
we need pictures of all this, salford ect

Gavin
April 27th, 2007, 06:19 PM
This is racing along. Concrete core upto 3 levels. Tonnes of steel below ground for car parking etc.... The speed at which this has been done is very impressive.

jrb
April 27th, 2007, 10:33 PM
Taken this afternoon. Core starting to rise.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture4006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/aja.jpg

mikeboss
April 28th, 2007, 12:54 PM
Allied don't mess around do they, is this goingto end up taller than CJC?

ferge
April 28th, 2007, 02:18 PM
No, but won't be far off I don't think... isn't it something like 72-75m? It's just taller than the Great Northern Tower, but due to the shape this will probably be a lot more noticeable and really bulk up the area.

Manchester Planner
April 29th, 2007, 11:25 PM
They're storming ahead with this one now:

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7052/hardman1lb0.jpg

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/6338/hardman2gf6.jpg

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/9773/hardman3hv9.jpg

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/7342/hardman4px3.jpg

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/7925/hardman5ua6.jpg

75m high - 3m more than GN Tower and it will be much bigger on the skyline because of its bulk and colour.

Manchester Planner
April 30th, 2007, 09:29 PM
Can I just remind everyone that this is actually Manchester's tallest under construction!

highriser
April 30th, 2007, 11:08 PM
it wont be soon :)

highriser
May 2nd, 2007, 12:28 AM
Some images of 3 Hardman St .

http://www.ahd-imaging.com/projects.php?p=10#

Accura4Matalan
May 2nd, 2007, 01:11 AM
it wont be soon :)

Lets hope so.

jrb
May 3rd, 2007, 09:37 PM
Taken Wednesday.

BTW. What the f*** has happened to the Manc Forum? (end of rant)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture011.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture012.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture009.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture005.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture004.jpg

highriser
May 3rd, 2007, 09:44 PM
Cheers for the pics jerb .

The problem with the forum at the moment is the amount of bitching brats that come here arguing about shit what nobody cares about.

I'll be doing a photo sweep of all the developments over the weekend so hopefully it will inspire everyone to talk about what this forum is about .

jrb
May 3rd, 2007, 11:21 PM
Cheers for the pics jerb .

The problem with the forum at the moment is the amount of bitching brats that come here arguing about shit what nobody cares about.

I'll be doing a photo sweep of all the developments over the weekend so hopefully it will inspire everyone to talk about what this forum is about .

Looking forward to the pics H.

I think the forum has lost it's way of late and some credability. There's various reasons.

Hopefully over the next few months we will see construction beginning on some of the proposed developments.

Ozzy
May 4th, 2007, 12:01 AM
That's the problem JRB nothing is really happening, nothing BIG anyway i am waiting STILL for Eastgate but by the looks of things this is not going to be built any time soon! plus their are alot of noobs on here of late..

jrb
May 18th, 2007, 11:25 PM
Taken today.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture3980.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture3981.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture3992.jpg

highriser
May 24th, 2007, 11:27 PM
How many floors is the tallest part of this building again ?

Irwell
May 25th, 2007, 12:30 AM
16 floors and 75m I think, which is 3 storeys shorter but 11m taller than Albert Bridge House, the wonderful 50s highrise in the background of the last pic.

Accura4Matalan
May 25th, 2007, 12:31 AM
Was there not a building U/C that was going to be about 20 floors? No? Ah well...

jrb
May 25th, 2007, 09:05 AM
Was there not a building U/C that was going to be about 20 floors? No? Ah well...

Sure it's 22 stories at the highest point.

jrb
May 27th, 2007, 02:34 PM
Play Away.

http://www.tvradiobits.co.uk/eightieszone/PlayAway.jpg

Don't laugh. :)

Before.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/218/511113713_96a15e1ba1.jpg?v=0

After. :lol: (definitely wrong massing, apart from the height)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/511113713_96a15e1ba1.jpg

mr_smith
May 28th, 2007, 07:35 PM
Wow been away for a month and come back to this! Seems to of come out of no where, gonna love watching this one go up.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/189/518218459_e69b588508_b.jpg

Farsight
May 29th, 2007, 07:38 PM
Thanks for that render jrb. It really brings it home: Ooo flippin eck, it's a big buggar is that.

jrb
June 3rd, 2007, 06:34 PM
Core at 12/13 floors.

Visible from GMEX.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture3956-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture3964-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture3947-1.jpg

Chogmook
June 3rd, 2007, 07:45 PM
You can already see the core on the skyline!!

skymann
June 3rd, 2007, 10:51 PM
Core at 12/13 floors.

Visible from GMEX.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture3956-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture3964-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture3947-1.jpg

Was round that area a few weeks back and never really noticed that on the horizon. Looks like it'll be a whopper. Certainly will be a lot of office space. I assume after this one it'll be 1 hardman sq? Fingers crossed.

Chorltonred
June 4th, 2007, 11:54 AM
Sure it's 22 stories at the highest point.

I work in ABH and the core is already taller than ABH at 12th/13th floor level, so I would say 16 floors and slightly shorter than CJC sounds about right.

If it were 22 floors we would be talking Arndale size or bigger.

The ground floor appears to be double height like the other buildings in the Spinningfields development - a nice design feature consistent through the project and ideal for retail/restaurants I guess.

They still don't appear to have finished knocking down the old MEN building next door so they must be building this one in stages.

cottonopolis
June 5th, 2007, 12:45 AM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1068/530406716_d3d855d7f3_b.jpg

cottonopolis
June 5th, 2007, 10:25 PM
is this maximum hehgt??

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1067/531731560_4aaa712d98_o.jpg

thanks to stoneroberts for the pic..

cottonopolis
June 5th, 2007, 10:32 PM
I just zoomed in and could see the floor count was 13. So three more to go...

jrb
June 5th, 2007, 10:49 PM
I just zoomed in and could see the floor count was 13. So three more to go...

How much higher will the frame and cladding take it after the core is finished.(16 stories)

cottonopolis
June 5th, 2007, 10:55 PM
I think quite a substantial amount. Looking a the pics you guys took from on the opening day of the masterplan model, this is definately challenging CJC in height.. It does actually look a little taller...

SteChol
June 6th, 2007, 01:36 PM
Couldnt resist a little walk past today on Deansgate....it's huge already !

Manchester Planner
June 6th, 2007, 03:14 PM
I suspect that although it is 5m shorter than CJC, the ground it stands on is about 3m higher... so overall it's about the same height on the skyline.

TheGrand
June 6th, 2007, 04:16 PM
Look how dense it is round here,

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1067/531731560_4aaa712d98_o.jpg

dannyb
June 6th, 2007, 09:26 PM
anyone seen this on granada tonight (or whatever it s called!)? - looking big on the skyline already :)

flange
June 6th, 2007, 09:31 PM
ya i have seen it on Granada Reports you can easily see the core rising above the city is huge

CrazyMac
June 7th, 2007, 01:27 PM
Whatever happened to the 150m+ tower that was supposed to be built at Hardmann square.

I saw some sort of render a couple of years ago, and not heard or seen anything since...has it been ditched?

macc
June 7th, 2007, 01:38 PM
Whatever happened to the 150m+ tower that was supposed to be built at Hardmann square.

I saw some sort of render a couple of years ago, and not heard or seen anything since...has it been ditched?

Its been put on hold. the last thing i heard was they were going to temporarily greenify the plot leave it like that for a couple of years. Probably wait until everthing else is done and then re-asses the market at the time.

jrb
June 7th, 2007, 10:39 PM
Hardman Street Video. I've just blurted in my tims!(coming soon) :shocked:

http://www.3hardmanstreet.com/

jrb
June 7th, 2007, 10:42 PM
New renders. ^^ :drool:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/HAR.jpg

SteChol
June 7th, 2007, 11:09 PM
LOVE IT !!!!!!

caw123
June 8th, 2007, 03:54 PM
Core making an impact
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j270/caw12345/P6060030copy.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j270/caw12345/P6060006copy.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j270/caw12345/P6040002copy.jpg

TheGrand
June 8th, 2007, 04:48 PM
St Georges Island is such a bag of wank isnt it?

highriser
June 9th, 2007, 04:41 PM
Steelwork is now going up ,, there really motoring with this one :)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1441.jpg?t=1181399999
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1442.jpg?t=1181400073

markydeedrop
June 10th, 2007, 01:36 AM
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/018.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/017.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/016.jpg

Manchester Planner
June 22nd, 2007, 02:39 PM
Anyone got some recent photos? I would have thought that the core would be finished by now.

Isaac Newell
June 22nd, 2007, 02:46 PM
You can see those cores everytime BBC News interviews someone in the Manchester Studio. Saw them on Breakfast TV this morning.

highriser
June 22nd, 2007, 03:02 PM
The core as stopped at 13 , i thought this was at least 16 at the highest point ?

vertigosufferer
June 22nd, 2007, 04:39 PM
Is this the Tall building that has the overhang/canopy type thing attached to it?

By the way, I'm loving the way Spinningfields has transformed in recent years. :)

Chorltonred
June 22nd, 2007, 05:11 PM
Is this the Tall building that has the overhang/canopy type thing attached to it?

By the way, I'm loving the way Spinningfields has transformed in recent years. :)


No that was one of the designs for the tower at 1 Hardman Square.

Although the core only goes up to floor 13, the ground floor is double height and the top still looks unfinished. Maybe they'll add more later but I admit it seems a strange way to go about things.

skymann
June 23rd, 2007, 03:18 PM
Hardman Street Video. I've just blurted in my tims!(coming soon) :shocked:

http://www.3hardmanstreet.com/

If you look at the overview masterplan for 3 hardman st there is a building next to Manchester House and north of the actual new magistrates court. It is on the site of the car park for the masonic lodge. It's marked "new magistrates courts". I'd heard that they might need to extend the new courts because it's too small for purpose. Do you think they've bought the car park site? If not, anyone know what this new building is and are there any renders?

jrb
June 30th, 2007, 10:22 PM
Francesca. From Flickr. Taken from the wheel.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/217/520647849_de9a94a1cb.jpg?v=0

crazymanc1
July 1st, 2007, 03:15 PM
Is that as high as the core will reach? will there be steel frame reaching much higher?

highriser
July 28th, 2007, 05:33 PM
Steelwork is now up to the 5th floor around the main core ,,, and theyve started the second core closer to the RBS building on Deansgate .

highriser
July 29th, 2007, 12:03 AM
Latest pic taken by Marky .

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/003-2.jpg

BeardedGenius
July 29th, 2007, 09:28 AM
Latest pic taken by Marky .

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/003-2.jpg

Looks great - as mentioned before, the whole of Spinningfields is a readymade film set - it's sure to be a popular port of call for ultra-modern office environment TV/movie scenes...

Architecty
July 31st, 2007, 10:07 PM
Couple of pics from Sunday

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d120/Architecty/IMG_0808.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d120/Architecty/IMG_0818.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d120/Architecty/IMG_0897.jpg

highriser
August 8th, 2007, 06:44 PM
Few pic's of 3 Hardman St this afternoon

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1483.jpg?t=1186591278

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1484.jpg?t=1186591366

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1485.jpg?t=1186591405

monkey_rat
August 8th, 2007, 08:24 PM
Didn't realise all three cores were up, this is going to look stunning.

Chogmook
August 8th, 2007, 09:26 PM
Told you there was 3 cores!!

Chorltonred
August 8th, 2007, 10:33 PM
There are two cores.

markydeedrop
August 12th, 2007, 12:12 AM
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/004-4.jpg

highriser
August 21st, 2007, 07:37 PM
This is really coming on now its looking a right beast , i'll get some update pics tomorrow .

highriser
August 23rd, 2007, 01:43 PM
New tower crane is about to go up , next to the 2nd core

jrb
September 1st, 2007, 09:22 PM
Full trailer is now up. Some impressive shots of CJC and the other buildings. Roll on the day when information and images are finally realeased of No1.

http://www.3hardmanstreet.com/

jrb
September 1st, 2007, 09:28 PM
PS. Note JFK arrival/Manchester Airport, London Euston/Piccadilly arrivals. The picth/video was clearly aimed at the New York/American financial institutions earlier this year.

jrb
September 6th, 2007, 09:23 PM
This week.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture4062.jpg

jrb
September 6th, 2007, 09:27 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture4063.jpg

Metrolink
September 6th, 2007, 09:29 PM
for someone with no knowledge of this type of thing at all, how many sq ft / m is this building?

Manchester Planner
September 6th, 2007, 10:46 PM
Is this still going to be 16 stories / 75m high? Seems shorter?

Architecty
September 7th, 2007, 02:39 PM
for someone with no knowledge of this type of thing at all, how many sq ft / m is this building?

Web site says 350 000 sq ft, for example 3 Piccadilly place is 200 000.

URBANISER
September 7th, 2007, 03:30 PM
Construction news, early planning, Peel Court, Hardman St...value 10m. Any further info folks?

Metrolink
September 7th, 2007, 03:34 PM
Web site says 350 000 sq ft, for example 3 Piccadilly place is 200 000.


and how many people would work in such a sized building?

Thanks by the way.

Chogmook
September 7th, 2007, 04:07 PM
Construction news, early planning, Peel Court, Hardman St...value 10m. Any further info folks?

£10m is pennies, Beetham Manc was £150m

ferge
September 7th, 2007, 04:11 PM
its a chunky lil bugger at the moment

URBANISER
September 7th, 2007, 04:59 PM
Chog, I don't care about your interpetation of value. I'm just interested in what is happening at Peel Court 45 Hardman St. These offices have recently been vacated and 1billion pennies or 10m pounds is a considerable build investment for what I believe is a smallish plot. Have you got anything on this jrb? It could be interesting!

Chogmook
September 7th, 2007, 06:30 PM
Now if it's just for the plot of land, £10m is hefty, I think GN Tower was about £7m for the plot, so aye, this could be a good un!

Thought you meant an actual building was gonna be u/c at £10m, that's why I thought nowt of it!!

markydeedrop
September 8th, 2007, 10:01 PM
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/031-4.jpg

Manchester Planner
September 9th, 2007, 10:50 AM
Will there be additional floors above the height of the core? There are meant to be 16 stories, no?

Farsight
September 11th, 2007, 07:15 PM
It steps up. That's the lower end.

This forum seems a bit quiet these days. Must be the congestion charging starting to bite. Ah well, no more skyscrapers for another thirty years then.
I'll go see what's cooking in Leeds.

Irwell
September 11th, 2007, 08:09 PM
It steps up. That's the lower end.

If that's the lower end then how come it's the highest core?

URBANISER
September 11th, 2007, 09:55 PM
I can confirm that IS the higher end, you can see the core aint topped, I'm not aware of a change to the planning application so 15 it still is.

Irwell
September 11th, 2007, 10:21 PM
I can confirm that IS the higher end

That's what I was trying to do in a slightly more subtle way... :lol: you can see it's the higher end by looking at the renders too.

highriser
September 17th, 2007, 06:40 PM
Cladding is now going up :) looks very classy too .

jrb
September 19th, 2007, 09:27 AM
If anyone is in town this week can you get a few pics of the new cladding going up on No3. Thanks.

highriser
September 19th, 2007, 07:39 PM
Your wish is my command jerb :)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1581.jpg?t=1190223332

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1584.jpg?t=1190223442

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1583.jpg?t=1190223481

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1582.jpg?t=1190223522

flange
September 19th, 2007, 07:45 PM
Looks nice, it seems like it is the same construction process as 3 and 4 Hardman Square.

jrb
September 19th, 2007, 07:51 PM
Thanks H. Much appreciated. At this rate No3 could be finished in 2008 and we could finally see some movement on No1. H. Brochure still hasn't arrived.

flange
September 20th, 2007, 08:09 PM
Old M.E.N. site takes shape

JUST a small sliver remains of what was the home of the Manchester Evening News for more than three decades.

Work on the office block due to fill the space left by the demolition of the M.E.N.'s former home on Hardman Street is now well underway.

The 350,000sq ft building - known as 3 Hardman Street - is taking shape and developers and letting agents are negotiating to fill its mammoth office and retail space by the time it is completed next year.

The building will have four lifts and 16 floors. The reinforced concrete lift shaft cores dominate the construction site and are almost at their full height of nearly 250ft.

The steel skeleton of the building is rapidly taking shape and block-work walls are beginning to appear.

The only part of the former M.E.N. building remaining is an electricity sub-station, which must be left intact to supply power to the area.

Quarter

Barclaycard signed a 15-year lease on around a quarter of the building before announcing its decision to pull out of the city.

But the U-turn was accompanied by warnings from Spinningfield developer Allied London that the bank could not duck its legal obligations to the lease.

Meanwhile, office letting company Regus is reported to have signed up to lease 30,000sq ft of the building in a deal worth around £860,000 a year.

The £1.5m Spinningfield project will also feature a shopping centre and a host of restaurants, including the already-opened Café Rouge, Zizzi, Café Ha! Ha! and Gourmet Burger Kitchen.

Talks with fashion retailers, including Giorgio Armani and Hugo Boss, are under way.

Located between Deansgate and the banks of the River Irwell, the development is already home to the M.E.N., its parent company M.E.N. Media and The Royal Bank of Scotland.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1017017_old_men_site_takes_shape

Again another out of date and ill informed news article from the M.E.N

mikeboss
September 22nd, 2007, 01:51 PM
Allied don't mess about do they it suprises me how some companies can throw buildings up and some "cough BSC" st on their backsides for years untill somone moans at them.

Manchester Planner
October 3rd, 2007, 06:56 PM
Some from today -

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee85/mancplanner_2007/2.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee85/mancplanner_2007/4.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee85/mancplanner_2007/13.jpg

So I'm taking it that there will be floors above the concrete core then, as the tallest core only goes to 13?

URBANISER
October 3rd, 2007, 08:13 PM
No amendment to the planning app so must still be 15 storeys.

Chorltonred
October 3rd, 2007, 10:37 PM
Don't forget that the ground floor is double height. So only one more would be needed above the core to reach 15.

Chorltonred
October 4th, 2007, 10:31 AM
Steelwork is up to 13th (really 14th?) floor now. Not far to go.

Chorltonred
October 19th, 2007, 01:11 AM
Nearly full height now:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/Chorltonred/ResizeWizard-6.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/Chorltonred/ResizeWizard-5.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/Chorltonred/ResizeWizard-4.jpg

Manchester Planner
October 19th, 2007, 01:52 AM
So I'm assuming that there will be another two stories above what's there now, so that the building will be 16 stories in total and will reach as high as the top of the main structure of the cranes. ??

Manchester Planner
October 19th, 2007, 01:53 AM
On a side note, it has to be said that they've built this very quickly!! :)

mikeboss
October 19th, 2007, 08:49 AM
Bsc take note.

Local Lad
October 19th, 2007, 02:55 PM
Its my Dads old company who have put the steel work up, claim to fame :lol:. William Hare Structural Engineering. They also did the steel for the Men arena. Trafford Center, Chillfactore, Printworks, Manchester Arndale extention to name a few.

Chorltonred
October 19th, 2007, 03:20 PM
Its my Dads old company who have put the steel work up, claim to fame :lol:. William Hare Structural Engineering. They also did the steel for the Men arena. Trafford Center, Chillfactore, Printworks, Manchester Arndale extention to name a few.

I can confirm that they have been doing a very impressive job!

markydeedrop
October 20th, 2007, 06:45 PM
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/001-6.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/002-7.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/003-8.jpg

future.architect
October 21st, 2007, 06:10 PM
love the cladding!

Chorltonred
October 29th, 2007, 12:10 PM
Steelwork is now up above the top of the lift core so it looks like it is going to fifteen/sixteen stories as originally hoped for. Not far off the height of the CJC. I'll try and get a picture for later.

Chorltonred
October 30th, 2007, 11:47 PM
Steelwork rising above the core now:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/Chorltonred/ResizeWizard-17.jpg

andysimo123
October 31st, 2007, 12:34 AM
Yep. I could clearly see the cranes lifting steel up this morning on the way to Bolton. I was good good more height.

jrb
October 31st, 2007, 12:41 AM
Is anyone else slightly worried about how the cladding looks/will turn out? Not sure about the bold white stripes?

future.architect
October 31st, 2007, 11:23 AM
Is anyone else slightly worried about how the cladding looks/will turn out? Not sure about the bold white stripes?

love it!:cheers:

macc
October 31st, 2007, 12:50 PM
Is anyone else slightly worried about how the cladding looks/will turn out? Not sure about the bold white stripes?

Yeah, me. They're obviously trying to have variations of simialr cladding throughout the development but this one I think will stand out too much and won't look that great. Its hard to tell with so little on though. I hope I'm wrong.

Manchester Planner
November 10th, 2007, 09:06 PM
Taken yesterday from GMex metro...

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee85/mancplanner_2007/Manc3.jpg

highriser
November 12th, 2007, 07:09 PM
3 Hardman St ,, ( i wish there change the bloody names of the developments in Spinningfields they all sound the same )

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1718.jpg?t=1194890806

markydeedrop
November 24th, 2007, 10:26 PM
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/059-4.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/060-3.jpg

Brightonboi
November 24th, 2007, 11:33 PM
Love the cladding and the building, Looks fab! Shame it could not be 100m+ tho.

jrb
November 25th, 2007, 12:25 AM
Massive. :)

Mancunian Monkey
November 25th, 2007, 10:08 PM
Looks great! :)

Comdot
November 27th, 2007, 09:35 PM
3 Hardman St ,, ( i wish there change the bloody names of the developments in Spinningfields they all sound the same )



i can remember which is which for a maximum of 2 hours before forgetting again!

jrb
November 27th, 2007, 10:22 PM
I've been promised a copy of the new Spinningfields magazine. Once it comes (December) I will scan it and post it.

Fingers crossed.

jrb
December 4th, 2007, 11:54 PM
Taken today. Not a good day for taking pictures. (5 pictures)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture4255.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture4253.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture4256.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture4257.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture4258.jpg

Manchester Planner
December 5th, 2007, 01:09 AM
It's a funny height this one - not particularly tall, but big. It pops out not above other buildings on the skyline but usually between other tall/mid rise buildings. Like the CJC, it adds bulk more than anything.

Architecty
December 5th, 2007, 10:46 AM
The cladding pattern running over two stories at a time plays tricks with the scale too, its looking shorter as more cladding goes on; will read differently again once its occupied, lights on etc. Not looking forward to the solar shading going on, I think they cluttered it in the renders, enjoying the clean and clinical look it has at the moment.

jrb
December 6th, 2007, 10:04 PM
Two pics. Sorry about the quality.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture4219.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture4218.jpg

markydeedrop
December 7th, 2007, 07:19 PM
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/050-6.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/053-5.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/060-4.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/063-2.jpg

crazymanc1
December 7th, 2007, 07:37 PM
Good pics marky. Am i the only one who feels slightly dissapointed with this one. walked passed it again today and it justs seems a wee bit short, just needs few more stories and it would look so much better.

ferge
December 7th, 2007, 10:59 PM
definately, this lookes like a modern day Manchester house from some angles (in terms of its ratio or bulkiness not style or shape)

Manchester Planner
December 7th, 2007, 11:57 PM
It does seem shorter than 75m... are we absolutely sure that is its height?

Jinkies!
December 10th, 2007, 02:03 PM
It does seem shorter than 75m... are we absolutely sure that is its height?

Hadn't realised that. Would have guessed at around 55-60. Squat, even despite its vertical cladding.

jrb
December 11th, 2007, 09:42 PM
2 close ups.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture4238.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture4239.jpg

jrb
December 11th, 2007, 09:46 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture4233.jpg

highriser
December 13th, 2007, 07:03 PM
Hardman St this afternoon .

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1721.jpg?t=1197568880

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1722.jpg?t=1197568939

jrb
December 13th, 2007, 10:05 PM
Full screen 3 video. Some cracking shots of Manc, Beetham and CJC, plus some addtional shots which weren't in the original movie.(Could be wrong)
Worth a look. (let it downlaod)

http://www.spinningfields-manchester.com/document/31

man med
December 16th, 2007, 11:34 PM
http://www.piccadillymanchester.com/index.asp?sessionx=IWU6KWF6JaqiNwB6IHqiNwA&mpage=3

http://www.piccadillymanchester.com/images/sheppard_hardmanimage.jpg

The building, providing office and retail accommodation, is conceived as a series of four ‘stepping’ blocks rising from eleven to fourteen storeys...

Comdot
January 12th, 2008, 08:52 PM
some more pics from today, workmen on site as usual http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=3872

here's one of the pics
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/38723HardmanStreet_pic23.jpg

Manchester Planner
January 12th, 2008, 09:03 PM
Poking above the skyline.... just.....

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee85/mancplanner_2007/peek.jpg

Not tall enough if you ask me.

markydeedrop
January 12th, 2008, 09:56 PM
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/City%20Centre%202008/035.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/City%20Centre%202008/037.jpg

flange
January 14th, 2008, 12:31 PM
Linklaters advises CSAM on Spinningfields acquisition

LAWFUEL - Legal Announcements - Linklaters has advised Credit Suisse Asset Management, manager of the German open-ended real estate fund CS EUROREAL, on the acquisition of 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields in Manchester from Norwich Property Trust Limited on behalf of the fund.

The building, which was designed by Foster & Partners, comprises 180,000 square feet and is let to law firm Hallliwells.

Real estate partner Joe Conder led the team which advised CSAM. He was assisted by real estate associate Katrina Swift with input from Jonathan Whiteford on real estate matters, Simon Halliwell on construction and Alex Woolmore on planning. Real estate tax partner Jonathan Evans and tax associate James Morgan advised on tax matters.

http://www.lawfuel.com/show-release.asp?ID=16668

hella good
January 15th, 2008, 03:22 PM
great facade

markydeedrop
January 26th, 2008, 06:07 PM
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/City%20Centre%202008/034-1.jpg

Manchester Planner
January 26th, 2008, 06:43 PM
There's a good view of this one from Lower Mosley Street looking down Windmill Street (between the back of the Midland Hotel and Manchester Central).

skit_uk
February 3rd, 2008, 09:35 PM
Massive mobile crane in Hardman square on Sat. Also a small building being demolished behind the crane

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/skit_uk/IMG_0371.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/skit_uk/IMG_0370.jpg

SteKnight
February 14th, 2008, 03:07 PM
I think this is going to look awesome when it's done...

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg270/SteKnight/3HardmanStreet140208001.jpg?t=1202997831

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg270/SteKnight/3HardmanStreet140208002.jpg?t=1202997988

Comdot
February 14th, 2008, 03:46 PM
yeah it looks really good. there's a building 2 metres shorter on canary wharf u/c right now which doesn't look quite as good. churchil place or something it's called.

13/2
more pics here too- http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=3872
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/38723HardmanStreet_pic3.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/38723HardmanStreet_pic43.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/38723HardmanStreet_pic42.jpg

jrb
February 15th, 2008, 09:44 PM
Taken last week. More glass has gone in since. This will be a monster once completed. It's only half erected.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture016.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture018.jpg

Comdot
February 15th, 2008, 10:05 PM
don't the window pieces cover two floors each though, hence it would have topped out long ago

Manchester Planner
February 16th, 2008, 04:48 PM
Starting to make an impact on the skyline, though it is very much a mid-rise...

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee85/mancplanner_2007/Hardman2.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee85/mancplanner_2007/Hardman1.jpg

Should have been built taller!

AJD1984
February 16th, 2008, 06:01 PM
With regards to cladding this has to be my favourite building in Spinningfields so far (with exception to CJC). Im looking forwars to seeing 2-3 Hardman Boulevard.

markydeedrop
February 16th, 2008, 07:32 PM
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/City%20Centre%202008/047-1.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/City%20Centre%202008/046-1.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/City%20Centre%202008/042-1.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/City%20Centre%202008/041-1.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/City%20Centre%202008/040-1.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/City%20Centre%202008/039-1.jpg

flange
February 22nd, 2008, 12:18 PM
3 Hardman Street topped-out

By Simon Binns

Manchester’s biggest office building, 3 Hardman Street on Spinningfields, was officially topped-out yesterday marking a major milestone in its construction.

At 350,000 sq ft, the building offers the largest single floorplates in the city ranging from 10,000 sq ft to 35,000 sq ft.

Designed by Sheppard Robson and being built by Bovis Lend Lease, 3 Hardman Street is on schedule for completion in October this year.

Attending the ceremonial tightening of the final bolt at 3 Hardman Street were Manchester City Council chief executive Sir Howard Bernstein, 3 Hardman Street developer Allied London chief executive Michael Ingall, Bovis Lend Lease regional director Tony Lenehan and Bovis Lend Lease operations director Vince Lydon.

The 16-storey building has already attracted Barclays, law firm Pinsent Masons and serviced office provider Regus.

Allied London chief executive Michael Ingall said: “This is an important stage in the ongoing development of the scheme and a significant step towards our vision for Spinningfields as a world-class development in terms of quality and sustainability.”

http://www.crainsmanchesterbusiness.co.uk/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080221/FREE/303295189/-1/breaking/-/-/3-hardman-street-topped-out

MVITA
February 22nd, 2008, 12:27 PM
Got a great view of this from near Albert Park in Broughton, it sits just in front of the Hilton and looks good.

spoonsbeatfish
February 22nd, 2008, 01:35 PM
If Allied wanted to in the future and they got planning permission, does anyone know if the building could support extra floors? I.e 10 years down the line, Spinnigfields extremely popular, land space very expensive as are rental rates, all adjacent land possible for expansion already taken or being taken and expansion of existing building desired.

ferge
February 22nd, 2008, 01:59 PM
still not sure what to make of this one, have to let go of the disappointment over its soar-factor, but it is a brute.. and well when it comes to commercial/financial aesthetic.. a brute of a building can sometimes give a city more ego than a soaring one.. maybe I'm talking bum fluff.. either way it says 'I'm a powerhouse'.. lol

Jerv
February 22nd, 2008, 04:39 PM
If Allied wanted to in the future and they got planning permission, does anyone know if the building could support extra floors? I.e 10 years down the line, Spinnigfields extremely popular, land space very expensive as are rental rates, all adjacent land possible for expansion already taken or being taken and expansion of existing building desired.

That all depends on whether the building was designed with the provision for future vertical extension in mind. If the building was designed efficiently to the dimensions that it is currently being constructed to, then there would be very little scope for future extension....perhaps 1 or 2 further floors in lightweight construction at a push.

In the past however, buildings have been designed with vertical extension in mind with adequate structural capacity along with enough space for services etc.

andysimo123
February 22nd, 2008, 04:57 PM
If Allied wanted to in the future and they got planning permission, does anyone know if the building could support extra floors? I.e 10 years down the line, Spinnigfields extremely popular, land space very expensive as are rental rates, all adjacent land possible for expansion already taken or being taken and expansion of existing building desired.

I've seen alot of shorter story office buildings in the city have extra floors put in but only about maximum of 2 stories. Really through it all depends on what the building has been designed for. Foundations, mass and structural strength are all major factors. You'd have to ask a structural engineer. The more floors that are added the higher the pressures will be. I'd say the most likely buildings are for possible expansion would be the shorter buildings but don't quote me on that.

jrb
February 23rd, 2008, 09:54 PM
Today.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture059.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture060.jpg

highriser
March 3rd, 2008, 08:16 PM
Cladding is now going on the lower sections .

markydeedrop
March 13th, 2008, 05:27 PM
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/City%20Centre%202008/012-2.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/City%20Centre%202008/019-3.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/City%20Centre%202008/021-2.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/City%20Centre%202008/022-2.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/City%20Centre%202008/024-3.jpg

SteKnight
March 17th, 2008, 07:29 PM
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg270/SteKnight/3HardmanStreet170308001.jpg?t=1205774866

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg270/SteKnight/3HardmanStreet170308002.jpg?t=1205774923

markydeedrop
March 19th, 2008, 08:00 PM
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/City%20Centre%202008/073.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/City%20Centre%202008/077.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/City%20Centre%202008/091.jpg

Caiman
March 21st, 2008, 07:25 PM
Today

http://www.jonreid.co.uk/pics/threespinny1.jpg

http://www.jonreid.co.uk/pics/threespinny2.jpg

http://www.jonreid.co.uk/pics/threespinny3.jpg

http://www.jonreid.co.uk/pics/threespinny4.jpg

markydeedrop
March 26th, 2008, 05:51 PM
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/City%20Centre%202008/019-5.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/City%20Centre%202008/021-4.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/City%20Centre%202008/022-4.jpg

3 Hardman Street in the distance
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/City%20Centre%202008/026-4.jpg

lamarkia1
April 1st, 2008, 07:26 PM
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k103/samorost/UEHS/HS20.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k103/samorost/UEHS/HS14.jpg

Comdot
April 1st, 2008, 10:18 PM
very nice. 28 days later?

andysimo123
April 2nd, 2008, 12:28 AM
very nice. 28 days later?

Has to be them or another renegade group, I know theres a website just for Manchester now, not sure what its called through. I know my mate(on of them lot) is doing Piccadilly Tower as it goes up. Am looking forward to the pics.

Comdot
April 2nd, 2008, 02:21 AM
Has to be them or another renegade group, I know theres a website just for Manchester now, not sure what its called through. I know my mate(on of them lot) is doing Piccadilly Tower as it goes up. Am looking forward to the pics.

the style and the night that gives it away.

lamarkia1
April 2nd, 2008, 07:54 AM
Has to be them or another renegade group, I know theres a website just for Manchester now, not sure what its called through. I know my mate(on of them lot) is doing Piccadilly Tower as it goes up. Am looking forward to the pics.

Lol at being called a 'renegade' :)

Yeah, I'm on the Manchester forum (exploremanchester.co.uk) and 28dl. I found this forum when I noticed that other people had linked to my photos in another thread.

I love high buildings, there's nothing like being high enough to see the horizon curve. Piccadilly Tower will be awesome...
:)

jrb
April 3rd, 2008, 12:19 AM
Don't remember seeing this. Probably has been posted before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VWMEw6n-Lw

Comdot
April 3rd, 2008, 01:38 AM
^^to put youtube vids in you do this (without the spaces) [ youtube ] 4VWMEw6n-Lw [ /youtube]
the code there being at the end of the link you posted jrb.

4VWMEw6n-Lw

there are more from allied london here- http://www.youtube.com/user/a11iedlondon

Manchester Planner
April 13th, 2008, 05:21 PM
From Shudehill today:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee85/mancplanner_2007/Shudehill8.jpg

BenHK
April 14th, 2008, 03:40 PM
One of the cranes for this (the one next to the new pret a manger) got taken down yesterday

Mancunian Monkey
April 14th, 2008, 09:47 PM
^^ Great pic MP.

Manchester Planner
April 14th, 2008, 09:53 PM
Yeah though shame Arndale House is blotting the landscape somewhat!

ferge
April 14th, 2008, 10:45 PM
Er yeh pity a fat squat tower is hindering the view of... a fat squat tower :|

Manchester Planner
April 15th, 2008, 01:31 PM
Erm - what, with a bathroom tile facade all the way round?

GShutty
April 15th, 2008, 07:30 PM
Er yeh pity a fat squat tower is hindering the view of... a fat squat tower :|

Aren't the two "fat, squat" towers both in the top 10 tallest buildings in the city centre? I'm liking 3 Hardman and the more cladding goes on the more impressive it looks- also they have pre-let a good percentage of it, which will hopefully make it easier to pre-let (& thus build) No.1 Hardman. Fingers crossed.

ferge
April 15th, 2008, 11:30 PM
maybe my point weren't made that clear, i was more the fact that complainin that a tall is blockin a tall.. lol, well.. we say talls :S

andysimo123
April 15th, 2008, 11:36 PM
Hopefully those two squating towers won't be in the top 10 tallest in afew years time. ;)

Smo
April 17th, 2008, 03:11 PM
If Allied wanted to in the future and they got planning permission, does anyone know if the building could support extra floors? I.e 10 years down the line, Spinnigfields extremely popular, land space very expensive as are rental rates, all adjacent land possible for expansion already taken or being taken and expansion of existing building desired.


Only just found this site, so to address a few points:

The simple answer is No. The design is effecient for the height of the building. (which is more like 72m than 75m)

As good as the glazing you see now is, it is not the finished article (see all those brackets)

It isn't intended as a tall building, there are other sites in the area for that. It just fills the gap between RBS and CJC. The fact that it finds itself in the city's top ten is just an accident of timing.

Comdot
April 17th, 2008, 04:54 PM
http://www.jonreid.co.uk/pics/threespinny4.jpg

this will be a great shot on a bright summer's day when building work complete

^^ Great pic MP.

i agree. usually shooting that way would be shooting into the sun but the clouds are just right here.

flange
April 18th, 2008, 11:33 AM
US bank to create 400 new jobs in Manchester

Bank of New York Mellon (NYSE: BK) is creating at least 400 new jobs in Manchester with a major expansion of its operations.

The US bank is taking 50,000 sq ft of office space at 3 Hardman Street, the latest building in Allied London’s Spinningfields development. It is keeping its current offices at One Piccadilly Gardens, where it opened in 2005 and now employs 800.

The move is a huge boost for the city at a time when the credit crunch threatens jobs in other parts of the financial services sector.

BONY Mellon’s operation here has not been as seriously affected as other institutions because it is mainly involved in back office transaction processing rather than lending and trading.

Jackie Williams, BONY Mellon’s Manchester-based managing director, said the city had become a major success story for the bank’s global operations.

She added: “Taking 50,000 sq ft at 3 Hardman Street will ensure we have the additional capacity to continue building our operations here in Manchester and signifies the continuing global expansion of the Bank of New York Mellon.”

No details have been disclosed about how much the bank is paying for its space in the £160m building, which is due for completion this autumn.

Manchester City Council and MIDAS, the Greater Manchester inward investment agency, have given unspecified assistance to BONY Mellon to help finance the move.

Colin Sinclair, MIDAS chief executive, said he was delighted. He said it proved that “despite the turmoil in the financial markets, Manchester continues to show its resilience and quality as a European growth centre.”

http://www.crainsmanchesterbusiness.co.uk/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080418/FREE/420061187/1012/-/-/us-bank-to-create-400-new-jobs-in-manchester

macc
April 18th, 2008, 03:23 PM
Hell yeah! Great news, that. I'll be keeping an eye out for those jobs.

Comdot
April 18th, 2008, 03:33 PM
am i right that 50,000 sqft is 2 floors of 3HS?

Chogmook
April 18th, 2008, 03:35 PM
3HS is 350,000 sqft, but obviously the building has a stepped profile, so who knows?! :)

Smo
April 18th, 2008, 04:02 PM
am i right that 50,000 sqft is 2 floors of 3HS?

It's approx. 1.5 floors, but the floorplates are pretty flexible when it comes to subdivision

flange
April 18th, 2008, 08:11 PM
Bank of New York Mellon will be taking office space on the fourth floor and part of the third floor, totalling 50,000 sq ft. It is thought to have agreed a 15-year lease with no break at a rent of around £28.50/sq ft.

jrb
April 18th, 2008, 08:12 PM
Taken today.(camera phone)

No3 is really starting to impact on Spinningfields. Note the semi-grassed area in the third picture. Has been cleared, extended and looks like it's about to be fully grassed.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture319.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture321.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture320.jpg