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GOL2007 April 24th, 2010, 08:52 AM Wow, when did THIS happen?! And nobody noticed rows of trucks loaded with sand leaving the site??? :lol:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think this is the first big tower starting piling since more than one year... will be nice to see that something is U/C in 2013... besides Marina Pinnacle and Wind Towers... :D
malec April 30th, 2010, 03:17 PM wow, so its really going ahead now! too bad I will loose my sea view.
Well, if it's only 40 floors then maybe not but who knows.
The-King May 2nd, 2010, 10:49 AM when someone can catch a photo of the piles they are installing we might be able to say something to the height of the tower. Small piles and a lower number may indicate a shorter tower. When they are going to stick to the original plan then I would expect piles similiar to the ones used at the Pentominium.
MarkWass May 4th, 2010, 01:57 PM I heard back from Damac, who said that reports that changes had been made to the building (ie height reduced etc) is just a rumour....
Saw the below article earlier:
'Arabtec awarded Dhs500m contract to build Damac Heights at Dubai Marina
Damac Properties has announced that it has awarded the main construction contract for its Damac Heights project at Dubai Marina to Arabtec. The Dhs500m contract was signed this week and work is expected to commence on site as soon as Zetas complete the enabling works.'
http://www.ameinfo.com/231610.html
Imre May 4th, 2010, 02:04 PM This is the new render?
http://www.ameinfo.com/images/news/large/1/97741-dam.gif
Imre May 4th, 2010, 02:12 PM 'Arabtec awarded Dhs500m contract to build Damac Heights at Dubai Marina
http://www.ameinfo.com/231610.html
Its around 140m USD not soo much,specially not for a 100F tower.
MarkWass May 4th, 2010, 03:24 PM Its around 140m USD not soo much,specially not for a 100F tower.
Yes, perhaps the amount mentioned would indicate a much smaller / more basic building?
In comparison:
1) Arabtec Construction LLC receives a letter of award from DAMAC Ocean Heights I for AED645 million
• United Arab Emirates: Monday, June 25 - 2007 at 15:14
http://www.ameinfo.com/124618.html
2) Cayan awards AED700 million Infinity Tower contract to Arabtec
United Arab Emirates: Tuesday, December 05 - 2006 at 14:43
http://www.ameinfo.com/104388.html
3) Arabian Construction Company awarded Dhs1.46bn contract to build Pentominium in Dubai Marina
United Arab Emirates: Monday, September 07 - 2009 at 13:33
http://www.ameinfo.com/208783.html
noir-dresses May 4th, 2010, 04:07 PM I think the render looks ok.
Imre May 4th, 2010, 04:21 PM Yes, perhaps the amount mentioned would indicate a much smaller / more basic building?
No idea but I think the best news is the Arabtec at least the quality will be good!
THE DUBAI GUYS May 5th, 2010, 09:48 AM Arabtec bags Damac Heights tower project
DAMAC Properties has announced that it has awarded the main construction contract for its Damac Heights project at Dubai Marina to ArabtecArabtec
. The Dh500 million contract was signed this week and work is expected to commence on site when Zetas complete the enabling works.
The project will occupy a prime position overlooking the Palm Jumeirah and is a 600-apartment building. The contractor is also working on another project, Ocean Heights, with the same developer and it is due to be completed later this year. "There are more contract awards expected in the summer. This is in addition to the company's commitment to hand over at least six projects in 2010," said a statement.
http://www.zawya.com/Story.cfm/sidZAWYA20100505044326/Arabtec%20bags%20Damac%20Heights%20tower%20project
By Staff Writer
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Stephan23 May 5th, 2010, 02:59 PM This is the new render?
http://www.ameinfo.com/images/news/large/1/97741-dam.gif
Hope for this one !! Looks insane :nuts:
Stephan23 May 5th, 2010, 03:01 PM BTW looks 80 floors tall - around...
Dubai_Steve May 5th, 2010, 03:06 PM No idea but I think the best news is the Arabtec at least the quality will be good!
Yes quality of fitting should be good but choice of materials and styling might be questionable if comparing with Ocean Heights' 60s style hallways for example?
biyadoo May 5th, 2010, 03:19 PM Absolutely stunning tower. I love it. This will look great next to Infinity.
Stephan23 May 5th, 2010, 03:50 PM http://www.aedas.com/MiddleEast/DAMACHeights
bizzybonita May 5th, 2010, 08:44 PM if this render saw it anywhere i would say it will be so much typical to reality but here no way to be like this ever (it could be a Pure fantasy from outside but inside rubbishlury)
biyadoo May 5th, 2010, 09:23 PM What's all this negativity? They haven't even started building yet and hallways are 60s style, rubbish inside etc.. :lol:
noir-dresses May 5th, 2010, 09:34 PM The tower is great. The only other building in marina that looks better than this is Infinity, thats it.
Go for it Damac, and since when has Dubai been known for good interior's, never.
malec May 6th, 2010, 12:11 AM What's all this negativity? They haven't even started building yet and hallways are 60s style, rubbish inside etc.. :lol:
Because of the low price tag.
What I think is either that figure is wrong, or else the render is wrong (it could be one of the old design).
True Blue May 6th, 2010, 12:12 AM Damac clearly happy with the performance of Arabtec at Ocean Heights probably negotiated this one.
Price looks cheap but may be due to strong dollar/dirham:dunno:
helghast May 7th, 2010, 04:17 AM http://www.ameinfo.com/231610.html
bizzybonita May 26th, 2010, 08:08 AM 25/May/2010
http://www.damacproperties.com/media/system/const_update/17/844/DSC02585.JPG
http://www.damacproperties.com/media/system/const_update/17/844/DSC02591.JPG
http://www.damacproperties.com/media/system/const_update/17/844/DSC02594.JPG
http://www.damacproperties.com/media/system/const_update/17/844/DSC02589.JPG
http://www.damacproperties.com/index.php?option=com_property&view=construction&pid=17
Josau May 26th, 2010, 08:22 AM Again, there is a beautiful tower, but it will be on top of another beautiful tower. Damac Heights and Infinity deserve to have more space around them.
bizzybonita May 26th, 2010, 08:33 AM All tallest block towers it could be a new city near by Dubai land area :D
All of them in Bad location if you ask me !
Stephan23 May 26th, 2010, 09:12 AM Awesome pictures bizzy !! :eek:
UAE_AD May 27th, 2010, 11:08 AM Doesn't it seem awfully close to the Infinity tower?
malec May 27th, 2010, 11:18 AM ^^ Well, the podiums are attached.
Josau May 27th, 2010, 05:12 PM ^^ Well, the podiums are attached.
^^This is what I meant.
bizzybonita June 29th, 2010, 01:14 AM 14 June 2010
http://www.damacproperties.com/media/system/const_update/17/868/damacheights-2010-06-14-1.JPG
http://www.damacproperties.com/media/system/const_update/17/868/damacheights-2010-06-14-6.JPG
http://www.damacproperties.com/index.php?option=com_property&view=construction&pid=17
Imre July 9th, 2010, 11:17 AM 09/July/2010
Damac Heights , main contractor (Arabtec) has arrived
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MarkWass July 31st, 2010, 01:54 AM Sorry to have been sceptical, but having been spun all sorts of stories (and fake progress reports, staged photos etc intended to placate investors) by the developers of various projects we invested in Dubai, I have been checking the Arabtec website regularly, looking for further confirmation that this project finally, finally now has the green light.
Glad to say it has now made an appearance on their site!! http://www.arabtecuae.com/ProjectDetails.aspx?id=108
Parisian Girl August 1st, 2010, 05:05 AM That's good to hear. :cheers2: This will look amazing next to Infinity!
HappyLarry August 2nd, 2010, 12:45 AM http://www.arabtecuae.com/Images/Projects/Newly%20Awarded/DamacHeights/DAMACHeightsPic-B.jpg
No doubt that Arabtec will deliver another fine looking tower.
MarkWass August 2nd, 2010, 01:02 AM ^^ I certainly hope so!! :)
minichori August 4th, 2010, 04:49 PM i think at dicember 2010 will build the podium...
I hope...
sydneyjay August 5th, 2010, 11:24 PM Not true. Take a look at the interiors at Infinity Tower, and in fact at Silverene. The show apartments are open. Built by Arabtec also, and really nice inside. Way above anything else in the Marina..... So u stand a good chance of getting a pretty nice apartment, unless of course DAMAC downgrade the interiors.....
The tower is great. The only other building in marina that looks better than this is Infinity, thats it.
Go for it Damac, and since when has Dubai been known for good interior's, never.
CrazyDave August 6th, 2010, 12:43 AM Where did the 100 Floor Hight come from. Thought it was going to be a little less than that?
noir-dresses August 6th, 2010, 02:08 PM Not true. Take a look at the interiors at Infinity Tower, and in fact at Silverene. The show apartments are open. Built by Arabtec also, and really nice inside. Way above anything else in the Marina..... So u stand a good chance of getting a pretty nice apartment, unless of course DAMAC downgrade the interiors.....
That developer is known for it's quality finish in their buildings, but that is not the case for most of Dubai.
Now take a look at Ocean Heights interior, its the same developer as Damac Heights, and it is but ugly inside. The customers paid for high end 5 star finish, and they got screwed. :ohno:
Dubai_Steve August 6th, 2010, 09:41 PM Arabtec alone does not mean quality, only better finishing. You need a good developer also that uses good interior designers and is not too greedy to leave only a small budget for fit out.
TMZ August 7th, 2010, 01:59 PM That developer is known for it's quality finish in their buildings, but that is not the case for most of Dubai.
Now take a look at Ocean Heights interior, its the same developer as Damac Heights, and it is but ugly inside. The customers paid for high end 5 star finish, and they got screwed. :ohno:
i dont get why u are suprised, this is normal dubai practise.
charge high, build shit,
they dont give a shit about you, only about sending their family to paris to live in a 25 million euroo house with 5 phantoms and countless fur coats
noir-dresses August 7th, 2010, 06:18 PM i dont get why u are suprised, this is normal dubai practise.
charge high, build shit,
they dont give a shit about you, only about sending their family to paris to live in a 25 million euroo house with 5 phantoms and countless fur coats
I'm not surprised, I know it's standard practice by the developer's in Dubai to charge high, and hand over crapy interior's. More or less any one who purchased any realestate in Dubai can be my witness.
I was just making that clear to another post above mine who stated you can get good interior's.
Josau August 7th, 2010, 06:24 PM What Arabtec stands for is good building quality. In the long run this is all what counts. A super Bosch branded kitchen in a poorly built building won't keep it from falling down.
In the Marina the good builders were Arabtec and Al Naboodah.
MarkWass September 2nd, 2010, 05:33 PM Was in Dubai at the weekend. Took these pictures, showing full DH site from next door hotel baclony (Monday 30/08/2010)
http://a.imageshack.us/img707/5902/photoofdhsite300810.png (http://img707.imageshack.us/i/photoofdhsite300810.png/)
paolo74 September 4th, 2010, 10:46 AM Hello Mark,
you have news from Damac?
MarkWass September 8th, 2010, 09:22 PM reply on other duplicate thread....
MarkWass September 8th, 2010, 10:01 PM ps: never know which one to post on. Mods: please sort something out... (ie combine into one thread, as suggested before)...
Blizzy September 9th, 2010, 12:19 AM What duplicate thread? o_O
MarkWass September 9th, 2010, 12:31 AM ^^^
Blizzy are you having a laugh?
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=488517&page=19
AltinD September 9th, 2010, 03:05 PM ^^ Two different threads for two different audiences, one local, the other international.
BTW, Arabtec does not do the interiours, a different contractor fits them. The best in town is DEPA.
Blizzy September 9th, 2010, 06:40 PM ^^^
Blizzy are you having a laugh?
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=488517&page=19
O, that one. Hm, almost every important tower has one tower in the international forums, and one in the local subforum. It is pretty wise IMO, as it keeps investment and local issues out of the forums visited by most of the users, who do not really care about tiles in kitchens or parking problems at nearby malls, and prefer to comment on the design, progress and such other topics instead :)
MarkWass September 9th, 2010, 07:52 PM ^^
Call me stupid, but I still don’t follow :dunno: I discovered these forums directly from google, which assume the majority of people find them (or from another search engine) and then in future access the webpages directly from a bookmark or ‘favourite’. But from what you say and looking at the descriptions on the top of each forum, this one is the ‘local’ (or contintental) one and the other one is ‘world’?
But then again, this one (the local forum?), has seen far more activity and posts than the other one (World). So that doesn’t quite fit with the line: ‘keeps investment and local issues out of the forums visited by most of the users’.
Sorry, I don’t mean to be awkward, just confused. Both threads seem to be pretty identical, about progress and sharing information about it, unless I'm missing something
AltinD September 10th, 2010, 10:00 AM You're overcomplicating things.
MarkWass September 10th, 2010, 08:30 PM ^^ Ok, I won't labour the point anymore... :)
MarkWass September 12th, 2010, 03:13 PM Well, the podiums are attached.
Just fyi, when I met Damac a couple of weeks ago, I checked this with them and they told me the podiums are NOT going to be attached...
malec September 12th, 2010, 04:52 PM Just fyi, when I met Damac a couple of weeks ago, I checked this with them and they told me the podiums are NOT going to be attached...
I doubt it, just look at the back of infinity tower for example. It would not be a blank wall if there was going to be an alley there. Anyway, I think it's a good thing if they are, more parking space then. :)
http://a.imageshack.us/img707/5902/photoofdhsite300810.png
edit: Also, the hole goes all the way to the edge of Infinity tower
MarkWass September 12th, 2010, 06:27 PM ^^ Yes, I am sceptical too, but that is what they said...
Guess is there is a gap, it would have to be pretty narrow. But then again if it was that narrow there wouldn't be much room to play with for construction purposes. Perhaps on the side closest to Infinity, the actual structure above ground level is narrower than the basement, car parking area etc. create an alleyway.
AltinD September 12th, 2010, 09:02 PM Not attached with the Marriott/Harbour Hotel yes, but definitely attached with the Infinity.
MarkWass September 12th, 2010, 11:16 PM Just had chat with wife, who was also present at the meeting with Damac, who also took us on a site visit of DH plot. On this point, they were very clear. As she said - Why on earth would they lie about the podiums not being attached?
Not attached with the Marriott/Harbour Hotel yes, but definitely attached with the Infinity.
^^ AltinD – Can you name your source / proof that DH and Infinity Podiums will be linked?
malec September 13th, 2010, 12:23 AM ^^ There's no absolute proof.
It just follows from observing all the other towers. For example, Marina Crown, Elite residence and Le reve are all connected. Ocean Heights and Tamani hotel are as well. For all the towers observed so far in the tallest, the podium has been the size of the of the excavated site. And here, the site goes right up to Infinity, as seen in that picture.
Maybe they didn't know what you meant. They might have thought you meant the towers.
This render here, made by one of our forumers, shows what it should look like (though maybe a little shorter)
http://i43.tinypic.com/55qhdg.jpg
First of all let's hope this gets built. :cheers:
MarkWass September 13th, 2010, 10:27 AM Yes was aware that other buildings there are linked, which makes logical sense, given the very close proximity of extremely tall structures to each other on relatively small plots. Not to mention the blank wall as you say.
They appeared to be clear on this point, but as you say perhaps maybe something was lost in translation…
As to your last point, yes as an investor, property developer (albeit ‘small time’ compared to the likes of the tallest row), and someone who would ultimately like to live in the building, yes: First of all let's hope this gets built.
minichori September 13th, 2010, 02:30 PM wow!! amazing render :bow:
True Blue September 13th, 2010, 05:13 PM There is an abuse of the English language here which is causing confusion. The podiums will be neither attached nor linked. They will be contiguous but entirely structurally independent. :okay:
AltinD September 14th, 2010, 02:00 PM ^^ Nobody ever denied or objected the idea that they will not be structurally independent.
bizzybonita October 1st, 2010, 02:01 PM 03/Oct/2010
http://www.damacproperties.com/plot-development/UAE/Dubai/Dubai-Marina/Damac-Heights/constr-updates/28.xhtml
234sale October 1st, 2010, 02:39 PM ^^ Updates from the future,, seeing today is the 1st
Dubaiiscool:) October 1st, 2010, 02:42 PM ^^ Updates from the future,, seeing today is the 1st
The Ocean Heights Updates that I posted yesterday also said that.:lol:
bizzybonita October 1st, 2010, 03:05 PM LOL We notice notice notice !
bizzybonita October 24th, 2010, 01:51 PM 23 Oct 2010
http://i56.tinypic.com/244d0dl.jpg
MarkWass November 7th, 2010, 03:08 AM So, in real terms...(ie actually REAL progress)... still on hold then??
The-King November 7th, 2010, 04:57 PM as long as people are actually working on site and machinery is working, it is not considered as on hold. Even if the progress is so little that you can hardly see any changes.
234sale November 7th, 2010, 04:59 PM ^^ +1
including a polutary security guard with a hammer..
dsoto2 November 19th, 2010, 09:01 AM so luxury !
PrincessTower November 21st, 2010, 06:34 AM There's progress. The last few days, in spite of the holidays, they've done drilling in preparation for those big columns going into the ground. Today they're instering the steel grids into the holes.
This is all on the corner of the plot opposite of the water. The side facing the water (south) is still filled with sand. Possibly as a natural barrier against the water for now.
PrincessTower November 21st, 2010, 03:29 PM Right this minute several trucks have arrive pouring concrete into the columns. Think this is good news for all scyscraper enthusiasts!!
Blizzy November 21st, 2010, 10:42 PM ^^ Wonderful news, though I do not understand what are you doing here posting, instead of lurking around the site with your camera ;)
MarkWass November 22nd, 2010, 05:13 PM ^^ If anyone has any pics of this latest action they can post, I'll owe you a :cheers:
PrincessTower November 22nd, 2010, 06:17 PM concrete pouring continued today. right now they're working on more columns going into the ground, starting in the right hand side corner and travelling south.
The site has been quite busy all day long. Welders have prepared more steel grids going into the holes. Looks cool at night.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4153/5198962188_401c21f869_b.jpg
Mark, this might overtake Sulafa Tower soon!!!!! ;D
MarkWass November 22nd, 2010, 06:49 PM Much appreciated for your response PT. Looks like I owe you a :cheers:when I'm next in Dubai! As well, of course many :cheers:'s to Imre for all his work!
aruner82 November 25th, 2010, 01:00 PM I just came back from a meeting with Arabtec and they are saying that work is pretty slow. Actually the project manager, sr. quantity estimator and contracts manager are yet to be appointed for this project.
So it is really surprising (in a good way) to see that the project is moving fast! I only hope it is not a gimmick to avoid complaints from investors that the work is not progressing.
Can anyone verify if the above said roles have been appointed please?
AltinD November 25th, 2010, 02:10 PM ^^ Arabtec has yet to take over the job on site. Till the last pile is casted and tested, is ZETAS's responsability.
True Blue November 25th, 2010, 08:02 PM The positions listed above will be freed up from the Silverene site soon! New certification requirements may mean that they will need to wait for the team from Infinity to take it above 40 floors.
Just remembered that OH team are coming free soon also!
PrincessTower November 25th, 2010, 09:21 PM there is a little pond now digged out in the middle of the damac heights site. too small I would say to be concerning, and it's under control. looks interesting though.
True Blue November 25th, 2010, 11:23 PM They are well below the water table so a little pond indicates it is well under control:okay:
AltinD November 28th, 2010, 01:30 AM ^^ Or that some dewatering pump stoped working :dunno:
aruner82 November 29th, 2010, 09:49 AM Thanks True Blue... Is there any link where I can read about this new regulations...?
MarkWass November 30th, 2010, 09:55 AM http://www.arabianbusiness.com/what-ask-rera--364171.html?tab=Article
DUBAI'S RERA: Next week Arabian Business will be interviewing Marwan Bin Ghalaita, CEO of RERA
This week Arabian Business will be interviewing Marwan Bin Ghalaita. He is CEO of RERA, the body that regulates the would-be jungle that is the Dubai real estate market. The world knows his job cannot be an easy one.
During the boom, Bin Ghalaita must have spent his days undertaking the Sisyphean challenge of trying to spot the cowboys in the stampede, and now it would be easy to believe his working hours are spent head in hands, trying to address a variety of nightmarish, multi-million dollar versions of the chicken and egg conundrum — did the developer go bust because the investors went bust, or the other way around? — while trying to keep everyone happy.
Pre-summer 2007, a lot of people got very rich very quickly by dabbling in the property market in Dubai. But since then, since the party stopped, a lot of people have become very poor very quickly. For hundreds of thousands of people, the fallout is still being felt. As RERA decides how best to move the market forward and restore confidence, everyone has a view on how the future will play out. Bin Ghalaita’s statements though, should hold more credibility than anyone else’s — the emirate’s ruler excepted. After all, he more than anyone should know the true condition of the market, and what measures the state will or won’t take to further stimulate it. Smart investors and developers have long hung on his every word, and with good reason.
Bin Ghalaita, who in my experience is a charming and courteous man, does not often give interviews. I would, then, like to give readers of Arabian Business the opportunity to submit questions beneath this column — or by email to me — that they would like him to answer.
Perhaps you would like to know how you, as an investor, are protected by the law against a developer that is not delivering on promises. Perhaps you would like to know the status of a project in which you have invested. Or perhaps you would like to know what the likelihood of you receiving your deposit back on a project that doesn’t look like it will ever be completed is.
Whatever your question, please make sure we receive it before Tuesday next week, and I will try my hardest to make sure as many as possible are put to Bin Ghalaita. He has long made clear he is an advocate of transparency — and I am sure he will welcome the opportunity to respond to the public directly.
MarkWass December 11th, 2010, 12:45 AM FYI.. a message I posted elsewhere earlier after having checked
a couple of banks website re escrow account interest (or as they like to call
it ‘profit rate’).
Could this may be a reason for DAMAC not being too concerned about the
delays? Or am I reading too much into this?
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=68709607&postcount=25416 (http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php%3Fp%3D68709607%26postcount%3D25416&usg=AFQjCNEeNRmeh3IH3KiCDJdZ3vD-q2sewg)
MarkWass January 9th, 2011, 01:39 AM http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...488517&page=20 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=488517&page=20)
Repost from the ‘dubai’ or ‘world’ forum. To be honest I’m still not sure which one is which, but anyway this is from the ‘other one’:
October 26th, 2007, 12:20 AM :
Quote:
Originally Posted by helghast
can't wait for this baby to start
November 7th, 2008, 06:30 PM:
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZZ-II
we had to wait a very long time, but finally they start
January 8th, 2011, 01:19 PM:
Quote:
Originally Posted by jhalsey
Let's hope this baby gets off the ground....
Let’s hope we are not still saying similar things in 2015!
Any thoughts??
PrincessTower January 15th, 2011, 01:59 PM the big drillers have constantly been working their way towards the middle of the plot. and a second crane (the one on the left) arrived the last couple of days and just got assembled.
15-jan
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5242/5357055804_6ef8cd4318_b.jpg
PrincessTower February 24th, 2011, 03:56 PM 24-feb
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5293/5473990786_0444a44cea_b.jpg
DAMAC February 25th, 2011, 02:27 AM http://www.damacproperties.com/uploaded-files/Property/ConstructionUpdates/-1/damacheights-2011-01-13-3.JPG
http://www.damacproperties.com/uploaded-files/Property/ConstructionUpdates/-1/damacheights-2011-01-13-4.JPG
http://www.damacproperties.com/uploaded-files/Property/ConstructionUpdates/-1/damacheights-2011-01-13-1.JPG
DAMAC March 2nd, 2011, 02:05 AM http://www.damacproperties.com/uploaded-files/Property/ConstructionUpdates/-1/DSC02551.JPG
http://www.damacproperties.com/uploaded-files/Property/ConstructionUpdates/-1/DSC02552.JPG
http://www.damacproperties.com/uploaded-files/Property/ConstructionUpdates/-1/DSC02549.JPG
http://www.damacproperties.com/uploaded-files/Property/ConstructionUpdates/-1/DSC02553.JPG
http://www.damacproperties.com/uploaded-files/Property/ConstructionUpdates/-1/DSC02550.JPG
http://www.damacproperties.com/uploaded-files/Property/ConstructionUpdates/-1/DSC02554.JPG
flashinglights March 2nd, 2011, 07:26 PM DAMAC... for a property developer, a shark is probably not the best advertising icon. hang on... maybe it is.
MarkWass March 3rd, 2011, 07:15 PM Are there any other DH investors / buyers out there? If so please pm me..
no_gods March 3rd, 2011, 10:16 PM good news to see something happen here
paolo74 March 4th, 2011, 11:21 AM Mark, I sent a private message.
MarkWass March 4th, 2011, 01:38 PM Mark, I sent a private message.
Hi Paolo
I didn’t get any pm from you.
Anyway, we know that both you and I are customers. If you and I are the only two mugs that Damac managed to sell this project to, then that would explain why they have been deliberately stalling or doing some initial ground works at double super slow snail pace for years and years. :lol:
But I was hoping to find out if there are any other investors in this project so we could discuss matters privately elsewhere.
MarkWass March 4th, 2011, 05:59 PM And when do you think it will start? Properly *start* I mean.
2016/17 would be a good estimate for handover date if they really get going now.
Morrismarina March 4th, 2011, 09:23 PM Mark, are your stage payments linked to construction here ?
Dove21 March 11th, 2011, 12:28 PM Is the design just the same as by the start of this project?
hemelboorder March 24th, 2011, 12:18 PM Also during evenings, foundation work goes on. 3 excavating machines and 1 welder guy busy.
http://home.tiscali.nl/cyril/ssc/damac-heights-night.jpg
PrincessTower March 25th, 2011, 03:14 PM 25-march
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5262/5558583756_6d4a8c237d_b.jpg
Imre April 1st, 2011, 12:17 PM 01/April/2011
Damac Heights site
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Imre April 8th, 2011, 01:12 PM 08/April/2011
Damac Heights board and plot
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MarkWass April 8th, 2011, 02:44 PM Thanks as always Imre, for your photos.
I see that the Arabtec and also Ramboll signs appear to have been removed from the sign board in your above pic.
Is it just the signs that are missing…. or the companies as well?!
Imre April 8th, 2011, 04:40 PM Thanks as always Imre, for your photos.
I see that the Arabtec and also Ramboll signs appear to have been removed from the sign board in your above pic.
Is it just the signs that are missing…. or the companies as well?!
No idea , thats why I took pic of the board.
Maybe some has more info about this.
AltinD April 10th, 2011, 12:34 AM Maybe they are looking for (or already found) someone else that can build the tower for cheapper. :dunno:
MarkWass April 10th, 2011, 12:07 PM I also see that Damac Heights has now mysteriously vanished from Arabtec’s website, where it was previously listed under ‘newly awarded’ ( http://www.arabtecuae.com/ProjectsNewlyAwarded.aspx (http://www.arabtecuae.com/ProjectsNewlyAwarded.aspx) )
It is also not listed under ongoing projects ( http://www.arabtecuae.com/ProjectsByStatus.aspx?id=2 )
noir-dresses April 10th, 2011, 12:34 PM It means what it means, plain, and simple. Arabtec is no longer the contractor.
The real question is why are they no longer the contractor, will they come back, or will another contractor take their place, and when ?
The good news is Imre's in town, and I'm sure he will be keeping an eye on their bill board, and site. :)
Dubai_Steve April 12th, 2011, 06:07 PM Maybe they are looking for (or already found) someone else that can build the tower for cheapper. :dunno:
Hopefully not DCE :lol:
MarkWass April 26th, 2011, 11:53 AM After having seen Imre's pic of the project board on site, I sent an email to Arabtec a few weeks ago asking about them whether there was any significance about the missing sign board. They replied basically saying 'Ask Damac..'.
Anyway, I got the below response from customer services at Damac on the 12th April 2011, after I asked them whether Arabtec were still going to be the main contractor or not:
“Please find below the latest project update for your investment in DAMAC HEIGHTS - Dubai Marina:-
-Whitby & Bird working as lead consultants
-Enabling works ongoing by ZETAS. Work ongoing on the inner wall shoring system
-Guide wall works under progress
-All pile construction completed and testing in progress
-Main contract awarded to Arabtec, to commence upon completion of enabling works by ZETAS
Anticipated Completion - Q2 2015”
True Blue April 26th, 2011, 05:45 PM At least they are being realistic about the completion. Fast track construction seems to be a thing of the past in Dubai now.
Dubai_Steve April 26th, 2011, 05:46 PM Q2 2015 likely means 2016 so that is 10 years after launch!!
AltinD April 28th, 2011, 09:55 PM True that .... although they started selling years later.
DAMAC May 9th, 2011, 12:27 PM May 2011
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hemelboorder May 30th, 2011, 12:08 AM http://home.tiscali.nl/cyril/ssc/damacheights2.jpg
The excavation is at its deepest now.
Blizzy May 30th, 2011, 06:47 PM So about this being scaled down and not a 100F tower. Have we ever had any solid info about that, or was that pure rumour and speculation?
AltinD May 30th, 2011, 09:21 PM ^^ There has never been any solid info about that.
GOL2007 May 31st, 2011, 07:54 PM You just have to look at the diameter of the piles. The building will be at least 200m high. Smaller buildings have smaller foundations... :)
Imre June 1st, 2011, 04:33 AM So about this being scaled down and not a 100F tower. Have we ever had any solid info about that, or was that pure rumour and speculation?
100F, 80F , 60F, 50F etc.. only rumours, nothing confirmed.
We will have more details when the main contractor there.
Imre June 3rd, 2011, 06:25 PM 03/June/2011
Damac Heights
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Imre June 5th, 2011, 06:05 PM 5/June/2011
Damac Heights plot
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johnnyinspain June 6th, 2011, 11:26 AM Following my comments on Pentominium, it looks as if this tower is going to be pretty much blocked in on most sides eventually???? I know the 3 towers on the big open space, (where the old EMAAR Sales office used to be is on hold, but one has to assume that this will be built at some point...... This will result in only a limited Marina and limited ocean view being available. What are the forward views like? Can't really see from these pictures.
AltinD June 6th, 2011, 11:18 PM ^^ How has this limited views? There is no tower blocking the sea and Marina views, and there's a road between it and the Marriott.
The building up of the empty plot does not really effect the marina views ... but of course, if you'd pretend a stand-alone-360-degree view, then forget it. Dubai Marina was NOT intended to be that.
Imre June 7th, 2011, 05:31 AM Sea and marina side will have a great view.
This slow construction is bad for the Infinity tenants in the future, they will have noise and dust for few years..
Josau June 7th, 2011, 07:43 AM This slow construction is bad for the Infinity tenants in the future, they will have noise and dust for few years..
^^Yes, this is very sad for this beautiful tower. It might greatly reduce the value of this property for a few years. Marina Crown has suffered for many years from the surrounding construction. At least in the case of Infinity it will only be to one side. I hope at least their pool won't be facing Damac Heights.
johnnyinspain June 7th, 2011, 11:13 AM That was my question. Good views from the front over the ocean.... as long as the Mina Seyahi Yacht Club is not developed, which of course it will at some point....
Sea and marina side will have a great view.
This slow construction is bad for the Infinity tenants in the future, they will have noise and dust for few years..
AltinD June 7th, 2011, 02:21 PM ^^Yes, this is very sad for this beautiful tower. It might greatly reduce the value of this property for a few years. Marina Crown has suffered for many years from the surrounding construction.
From what I've heard, Marina Crown has got bigger fish to fry that the noise from the left-and-right construction activities.
MANUTD June 7th, 2011, 05:07 PM That was my question. Good views from the front over the ocean.... as long as the Mina Seyahi Yacht Club is not developed, which of course it will at some point....
Very much doubt it now --with oversupply in abundance for 10 years anyway
johnnyinspain June 8th, 2011, 11:56 AM True. That will be a long way off, if at all........ However, always best to buy where they CAN'T build in front.....
Al Fattan Towers buyers were promised unrestricted ocean views, then the same company knocked down the Oasis. At least the crisis has stopped the 83 floor tower planned for that site. Typical Dubai. No respect for promises....
Very much doubt it now --with oversupply in abundance for 10 years anyway
Josau June 8th, 2011, 06:13 PM And even when there is no room for a building, you might get a huge bridge right in front of your balcony as seen in Orra Bay and Bayside.
HappyLarry June 10th, 2011, 11:14 PM Just extend the Marina water footprint by flooding the old sales area.
PrincessTower June 12th, 2011, 02:46 PM the site has been cleared and offices have been removed the last couple of days. this must have been the Zetas offices responsive for piling. Does this mean piling is completed or very close to completion?
workers and activity onsite today.
AltinD June 12th, 2011, 03:25 PM ^^ The piling was completed long ago. Even the exposing of the pile caps, breaking them and preparing the site for the raft, is usually done by the main contractor, not the piling one.
AltinD June 12th, 2011, 03:28 PM And even when there is no room for a building, you might get a huge bridge right in front of your balcony as seen in Orra Bay and Bayside.
Yeah, cause the bridges were build just to piss them off, not because they were part of the masterplan and those crybabies benefits from them as much, maybe even more, then everybody else.
Damn, (speaking in general here) I really disslike the cry-babies that only nag and nag and nag, even worse then a bored desperate housewife. :ohno:
bizzybonita June 15th, 2011, 01:54 AM Main works begin on Dhs508m 'Damac Heights' Tower
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Damac Properties, the Middle East's largest independent real estate developer has announced that main construction works have commenced at its Dhs508m residential development 'Damac Heights' at Dubai Marina.
Leading gulf construction company Arabtec, which was awarded the main construction contract, is now on site following the completion of enabling works by Zetas Foundation Technology.
Damac Heights will comprise 1, 2 & 3 bedroom apartments, as well as duplexes and penthouses. The residential apartments will be completed to Damac Properties' high standards of quality and have views of the Palm Jumeirah. The complex will incorporate five star amenities including a temperature controlled swimming pool, gymnasium, nursery, sauna, steam room and spa facilities.
"Damac Heights will be another shining jewel along the beachfront real estate band on Al Sufouh Road, Dubai Marina. This two kilometre stretch of land is home to some of the most exclusive and luxurious residential properties ever constructed, and of these real estate gems, Damac Heights will shine the brightest," said Niall Mc Loughlin, Senior Vice President Damac Properties.
"To impress in Dubai these days, developers are aware they need to go to the next level. It's not enough to build a nice apartment building in a mediocre location. You have to build a phenomenal building, in a prestigious location with every conceivable modern convenience included. That's what we are aiming to achieve with Damac Heights," Mc Loughlin added.
Damac Heights will represent the second partnership between Arabtec and Damac Properties at Dubai Marina. It follows the completion of the award winning 84-storey residential tower 'Ocean Heights' last year.
"We have had a long and successful history working with Damac Properties. The stunning Ocean Heights development is a testament to the strength of our relationship and what we have been able to achieve in collaboration with Damac. I have no doubt that Damac Heights will surpass even Ocean Heights, to become the premiere residential development along the ocean-facing stretch of Dubai Marina," said Riad Kamal, Chief Executive of Arabtec Holding.
Real estate services firm Cluttons characterises the current real estate market in Dubai as a "flight to quality." According to Cluttons, purchasers and tenants are focusing on completed 'lifestyle' projects such as The Greens, Old Town and Dubai Marina.
Commenting on the trend, Mc Loughlin said, "There is a lot of speculation about falling property prices in Dubai, but that's not the exactly the whole story. In reality there is a two tiered market emerging and demand is actually rising for high quality properties in premium locations such as the Marina."
Damac Properties takes a long term view of property investment in Dubai, and has been making strategic investment decisions based on optimistic forecasts for future growth in the emirate.
The positive outlook is supported by a recent forecast by the IMF, which is predicting growth to remain steady in the UAE at about 4% for the next six years. The improved outlook reflects large public investment spending by Abu Dhabi as well as stronger tourism, logistics and trade in the emirate of Dubai.
"We believe that investors will always be attracted to all of the positive attributes that Dubai has to offer - world-class infrastructure; strategic location; established tourist destinations, proven business centres; a highly skilled expat workforce; and most importantly strong and stable government leadership," Mc Loughlin mused.
Damac Properties continues to be a major contributor to Dubai's real estate revival. As it extends its portfolio of luxury products the developer will be an enduring fixture in the Dubai landscape, while Dubai itself will remain a major draw for investors.
Damac Properties, part of Damac Holdings was established in 2002, as a private residential, leisure and commercial developer in Dubai and the Middle East. Since then, Damac Properties has expanded rapidly into North Africa, Jordan, Lebanon, Qatar and Saudi Arabia.
Damac Properties has completed 28 buildings to date with 6045 units and spanning 10,619,469 sq feet with projects such as The Crescent and Lago Vista at IMPZ, Executive Heights and Smart Heights in TECOM, Lake View and Lake Terrace at Jumeirah Lake Towers, Business Tower and XL Tower at Business Bay and Ocean Heights, The Waves and Marina Terrace at the Dubai Marina.
Before the end of this year (2011) Damac Properties will complete a further 8 buildings comprising 1,329 units spanning 2,513,015 sq feet
Damac Properties also has a further 50 buildings at various stages of progress across the Middle East, North Africa region. These consist of 9849 units, spanning 16,886,151.00 sq feet.
In June 2010, Damac Properties further reinforced its position as a premium developer with the launch of Damac Tower in Beirut, Lebanon. A 28 iconic tower, this project is in association with Italian design group, VERSACE, with all interiors being designed by Versace Home.
The company has a diverse range of expertise that allows them to have a good oversight and management of all aspects of a project right from the acquisition of land, appointment of architects and designers, construction and sales to after sales service.
The company's projects are located in the most desirable and exclusive locations and homes are built to a high quality specification that has become synonymous with the group. Damac Properties aims to develop projects that include residential, commercial and leisure facilities that will create an integrated community.
In addition to support services provided by the Dubai headquarters, the company's comprehensive Customer Care Program provides solutions through its vast network with offices in the UAE, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, KSA and Qatar.
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MarkWass June 15th, 2011, 02:04 AM Thanks Biz, got the same article and other similar ones via google news alerts in my inbox this morning. But wasn't sure whether to believe them after all these years of bs...
GoDubai! June 15th, 2011, 05:55 AM http://www.constructionweekonline.com/article-12813-construction-of-138m-85-storey-damac-tower-begins/
This one too, but says...
Arabtec has started the construction phase on the $138m residential Damac Heights development in the Dubai Marina.
The 420m-tall, 85-storey Damac Heights
AltinD June 15th, 2011, 03:45 PM Thanks Biz, got the same article and other similar ones via google news alerts in my inbox this morning. But wasn't sure whether to believe them after all these years of bs...
So seeing the pictures posted here showing preparations for the main work to start were also BS, or are you just referring to ARABTEC being the contractor?
MarkWass June 15th, 2011, 09:19 PM So seeing the pictures posted here showing preparations for the main work to start were also BS, or are you just referring to ARABTEC being the contractor?
^^ I actually wasn't referring to either of those.
Sure Paolo or any other investors know what I'm talking about, having received 'progress' reports delivered to our inboxes since 2007.
Look, I LIKE Damac and wouldn't have put money where my mouth is, in the first place if I didn't. I wish them success, just a little frustrated. Sorry.
Despite my frustration, I agree with:
“To impress in Dubai these days, developers are aware they need to go to the next level. It’s not enough to build a nice apartment building in a mediocre location. You have to build a phenomenal building, in a prestigious location with every conceivable modern convenience included. That’s what we are aiming to achieve with Damac Heights” said Niall Mc Loughlin, Senior Vice President Damac Properties.
"I have no doubt that Damac Heights will surpass even Ocean Heights, to become the premiere residential development along the ocean-facing stretch of Dubai Marina."
MarkWass June 15th, 2011, 09:48 PM Niall Mc Loughlin, Senior Vice President Damac Properties said:
"I have no doubt that Damac Heights will surpass even Ocean Heights, to become the premiere residential development along the ocean-facing stretch of Dubai Marina."
Personally, I would probably change that to:
"I have no doubt that Damac Heights could surpass even INFINITY, to become the premier residential development along the ocean-facing stretch of Dubai Marina."
Sorry Ocean Heights (and Infinity) fans...
AltinD June 15th, 2011, 10:26 PM ^^ I actually wasn't referring to either of those.
But you were talking about not believing the today's reports on starting the main construction work on the tower, not something happening over the years, and I replied to you on exactly that aspect.
MarkWass June 15th, 2011, 10:57 PM But you were talking about not believing the today's reports on starting the main construction work on the tower, not something happening over the years, and I replied to you on exactly that aspect.
'Technically' yes. But there is a wide gulf between 'starting' and 'REALLY starting'. Sorry for my frustration in 2011. As said before this could blatantly be Damac's true flagship project in Dubai. Why were we not at this stage in late 2007 or early 2008?
PrincessTower June 20th, 2011, 09:52 AM 20june
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Imre June 24th, 2011, 11:09 AM 24/June/2011
Damac Heights
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Imre July 8th, 2011, 09:11 AM 8/July/2011
Damac Heights
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Imre July 29th, 2011, 04:25 PM 29/July/2011
Damac Heights
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bizzybonita July 30th, 2011, 12:24 AM why the don't have an idea for new way of advertising .. my suggest DAMAC logo on Floor of Ground Work area ... after that let the 1st blah blah get started show up some new stuff Mr. new CEO :D
KajaCZE August 25th, 2011, 02:13 PM Damac and Pentominium are my favorite skyscrapers. :)
Blizzy August 26th, 2011, 02:35 PM One just a hole in the ground and the other on hold - just great, huh? ;)
johnnyinspain August 26th, 2011, 04:31 PM You mean the artist's drawings and CGI's I presume???
:)
Damac and Pentominium are my favorite skyscrapers. :)
Imre September 9th, 2011, 09:42 AM 9/September/2011
Damac Heights, new board
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Androider September 11th, 2011, 11:08 PM you might wanna change to 90 Floors as well.
Spoke to Damac Stand girl in MoE and she told me thats got Arabtec back to work and all work has commenced once again. She told me project will be done in 3 years and the most retarded thing she told me was price per sq ft is 1850 ! i mean who the hell would buy that overpriced project that hasnt started yet.. cheeses christ.
Imre September 16th, 2011, 11:00 AM 19/September/2011
Damac Heights , new board
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True Blue September 16th, 2011, 11:19 AM Nice design, although not stunning IMO. The render still looks a bit under detailed in such a way that they seem to be leaving parts of the design vague. Perhaps to change again later.
I'm not sure such small apartments are a good idea in a development earmarked as luxury. Damac did do a good job with the common areas of OH so I expect a similar finish here.
I wonder how many investors will take the option of switching from Palm Springs to here rather than taking a haircut on their long lost money.
bizzybonita September 16th, 2011, 05:59 PM http://www.rpdubai.ae/rpdubai/SharedFolder/ProgressIndicator/430_45.jpg
PrincessTower September 17th, 2011, 08:38 AM ^^does this mean the title can be changed to 86 floors?
bizzybonita September 17th, 2011, 03:02 PM Waiting the official press news :)
Blizzy September 17th, 2011, 04:38 PM ^^does this mean the title can be changed to 86 floors?
Don't you mean 87?
Anyway, I was just looking through this thread, and I stumbled on a contest photo on page 14, with a miniature render in the corner. I'm really surprised how similar is the new design to that from years before.
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Imre September 22nd, 2011, 05:36 PM 22/September/2011
Damac Heights
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PrincessTower October 1st, 2011, 12:00 PM Damac representative told me it will have 85+G floors now.
They were talking between 1200 and 1800 AED psft, releasing only the low floors step by step. A lot of money to spend for 8th floor Off Plan if you ask me.
MarkWass October 1st, 2011, 01:36 PM releasing only the low floors step by step.
It is true, that after the project was launched in 2007, they did release the apartments on a gradual basis, a few floors at a time, but by November 2007 they had 'released' and were actively marketing and selling any apartments on the first 30 floors. By around this time of year in 2008, they were up to floor 77…
PrincessTower October 1st, 2011, 02:35 PM It is true, that after the project was launched in 2007, they did release the apartments on a gradual basis, a few floors at a time, but by November 2007 they had 'released' and were actively marketing and selling any apartments on the first 30 floors. By around this time of year in 2008, they were up to floor 77…
maybe that has changed again. the original contracts might have been cancelled since the building underwent redisign.
don't know, but they now only have units on sale somwhere below 14th (can't remember the exact level).
PrincessTower October 16th, 2011, 03:57 AM 16-oct
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PrincessTower November 3rd, 2011, 03:50 PM 03-nov
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johnnyinspain November 10th, 2011, 04:53 PM DAMAC sink to a new low..... Niall McLoughlin, Senior Vice President, Damac Properties comments on a couple complaing that their shop unit purchased in Lakeside Tower being only 1.2 Meters in height, cannot get a license to trade as DMCC refused this due to the ceiling being well below the required height. His comment was and I quote.... "the unit in question is fit for purpose and compliant with all prerequisites and requirements".
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/ge...re-up-1.927371
Imre November 10th, 2011, 05:17 PM DAMAC sink to a new low..... Niall McLoughlin, Senior Vice President, Damac Properties comments on a couple complaing that their shop unit purchased in Lakeside Tower being only 1.2 Meters in height, cannot get a license to trade as DMCC refused this due to the ceiling being well below the required height. His comment was and I quote.... "the unit in question is fit for purpose and compliant with all prerequisites and requirements".
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/ge...re-up-1.927371
This one is the Lake View Tower .
PrincessTower December 1st, 2011, 08:33 AM 01-Dec
BAD NEWS for Damac.
Site began to flood last night. Seems to be under control now. Hopefully the damage won't be too bad. :(
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noir-dresses December 1st, 2011, 08:51 AM This location just seems to be bad luck.
Thanks for photos PT.
GOL2007 December 1st, 2011, 11:35 AM Well especially at this spot next to Infinity tower the possiblity of water below ground or near the construction site was very unlikely... :lol: ... :ohno:
SA BOY December 1st, 2011, 01:35 PM ha ha ha serves DAMAC right, bad karma
VCollaborator December 1st, 2011, 02:29 PM ^^
Some advice from Dr Phil.:lol:
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flashinglights December 2nd, 2011, 12:25 PM woops!
GoDubai! December 2nd, 2011, 01:43 PM ^^ That video clip has nothin' to do with nothin'!
Imre December 2nd, 2011, 02:00 PM 01-Dec
BAD NEWS for Damac.
Site began to flood last night. Seems to be under control now. Hopefully the damage won't be too bad. :(
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Something wrong with the marina wall in that area, few weeks ago the site front of Torch was also flooded.
Would be interesting to see the Infinity Tower basement now,should be indoor swimming pool there :)
AltinD December 2nd, 2011, 11:02 PM ^^ Don't think so, the shell is (supposed to be) sealed.
zwamborn December 4th, 2011, 11:59 AM 2011-12-01 (ca. 16:00) by me
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Building Dubai December 4th, 2011, 12:46 PM I have heard that many projects in this area had issues with water at the foundation stages and that DAMAC intentionally flooded it to equalise the water pressures while some work was carried out.
PrincessTower December 4th, 2011, 04:23 PM ^^if that's the case, which it could be, why wouldn't they remove the scaffolding inside first? there's a lot of stuff is floating around in the water from what I can see right now so at least this aspect doesn't suggest the site had been well prepared for an intentional flooding. :dunno:
Zuburbia December 4th, 2011, 08:10 PM too bad for this project, seems the work is on hold...saw the flooding.. they should have learned to what had happened with the infinity before, at its ground work stage... but yeah the infinity tower flooding was far worst than this, when the wall broke and the marina water went in...hehe
AltinD December 6th, 2011, 08:48 PM ^^if that's the case, which it could be, why wouldn't they remove the scaffolding inside first? there's a lot of stuff is floating around in the water from what I can see right now so at least this aspect doesn't suggest the site had been well prepared for an intentional flooding. :dunno:
Maybe no time to risk what happened next-door.
MarkWass December 6th, 2011, 10:08 PM ^^ huh? I don't get it? Do you mean infinity's 'leak' was much worse because they tried to remove the equipment, rather than focus on repairs to the wall and pumping the water out?
AltinD December 6th, 2011, 10:29 PM ^^ Infinity site was facing heavy leakage from the side for days before the breach happened.
True Blue December 6th, 2011, 11:23 PM This location just seems to be bad luck.
Thanks for photos PT.
From memory there was a problem caused by an existing underground duct which became a route for the water to leak into Infinity. This distracted the groundwork contractor when water started leaking in through the diaphragm wall. It was only when serious cracking started to appear and water went from spraying in to flooding in, that the contractor knew they were losing the battle and ordered an evacuation of the basement, just in time before the whole place flooded catastrophically.
So it would seem normal to assume that the same problem uncovered in Infinity could exist in Damac Heights.
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Next problem is unrelated and should have been common sense to any decent engineer. The section of the wall that they are now propping and shoring is the opposite shape of an arch. This means it will be very weak as the water pressure will generate tension stress along the wall, similar to hoop stresses in a pressure cylinder (arches resist pressure by converting them to compression within the arch, this is the opposite of an arch so will sustain tension stress). These diaphragm walls are poor at resisting tension and should have been shored as the excavation progressed and not when they reached the bottom. If you look at the Infinity failure point you will see it occured outside of the arched part of the wall.
If I was Cayan I would be insisting that the propping forces are not transferred to their basement wall, unless they are fixed at the floor level and no where else.
flashinglights December 7th, 2011, 04:19 PM TB, nice theory, but unless we read the actual report, it's all speculation at this point.
The Engineer December 8th, 2011, 08:40 PM ^^ of course it is speculation at this point. But it looks like they have encountered a problem with the diaphragm walls. As TB says, it is very strange to escavate the whole site (leave it like this for months) and then work on the shoring of the walls. If it was needed from the beginning they would have shored it while the were excavating. Hopefully they where in time to prevent a disaster like what happend at Infinity's and the (partially) flooding of the is site is just precausionary.
PrincessTower December 11th, 2011, 12:40 PM looks like damac are moving their site office and storage room over to the empty plot in front of the torch, away from the Infinity driveway.
True Blue December 11th, 2011, 01:11 PM looks like damac are moving their site office and storage room over to the empty plot in front of the torch, away from the Infinity driveway.
Big empty space not being used and they all posted that it would be a park or something! :lol:
Imre December 11th, 2011, 04:53 PM looks like damac are moving their site office and storage room over to the empty plot in front of the torch, away from the Infinity driveway.
Front of the Infinity there is an empty plot with hotel permission , probably they already asked to clean that area :lol:
rbj December 11th, 2011, 05:53 PM Is it definately hotel permission or another residential tower. Also I cant see anything being built there in the next few years with the world recession as it is ...... but you may have more up to date info about anything being built there
flashinglights December 16th, 2011, 11:21 AM The site is full to the brim with water. Pressure equalised.
True Blue December 16th, 2011, 11:26 AM ^^Can't be good for Infinity to have full pore water pressure on the basement party wall. Not so much of structural problem as the basement floors give it the strength, but from a waterproofing point of view. That amount of pressure can damage the tanking membranes. I would expect that there is some leaks appearing in the basement of Infinity.
Imre December 16th, 2011, 07:01 PM Looks very bad , lots of sand bags there , hopefully they can save the marina wall.
flashinglights December 17th, 2011, 11:59 AM Looks very bad , lots of sand bags there , hopefully they can save the marina wall.
Marina wall should be fine.
PrincessTower December 19th, 2011, 09:59 AM 19-dec
the new building material storgage place has Arabtec signs on it.
http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac210/PrincessTower/zPC190010.jpg
http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac210/PrincessTower/zPC190001.jpg
Imre December 23rd, 2011, 12:04 PM 23/December/2011
Damac Heights
http://i44.tinypic.com/10h7eqb.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/293jaxy.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/651y4z.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/dbjy88.jpg
Imre January 8th, 2012, 04:15 PM 8/January/2012
Damac Heights
http://i39.tinypic.com/15flp5e.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/mjpssg.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/sdmeyh.jpg
DR.SHREJMAN January 9th, 2012, 07:30 AM construction end: 2015 (if there is no Holds) 2018 with on holds
hand over 2016 at least!!!
#just saying
True Blue January 10th, 2012, 06:04 PM We could be looking at 6 years with this tower, clearly there is a problem that will take time to sort out. May even need specialist divers and underwater contractors the same as are used in the offshore oil industry.
[Very deep holes near open water = big problems] Well known Civil Engineering equation!
FWIW January 12th, 2012, 02:32 PM We could be looking at 6 years with this tower, clearly there is a problem that will take time to sort out. May even need specialist divers and underwater contractors the same as are used in the offshore oil industry.
[Very deep holes near open water = big problems] Well known Civil Engineering equation!
Do you think this could affect its next door neighbour Infinity?
Does not look good to me! :ohno:
True Blue January 12th, 2012, 06:04 PM Certainly expect to see some dampness on the basement walls and likely some leaks here and there. It is possible though that special attention has been paid to getting the tanking done properly considering the history of the plot.
I don't know if you are aware that the Shorelines were plagued with water penetration in the basements and they are a lot shalower than here.
bizzybonita January 31st, 2012, 04:54 PM Jan/2012
Sound like the done already dewatering :) Hopefully, i'm not wrong on this one .
http://www.damacproperties.com/plot-development/UAE/Dubai/Dubai-Marina/Damac-Heights/constr-updates/28.xhtml?p=4&cons=t
PrincessTower January 31st, 2012, 05:33 PM Jan/2012
Sound like the done already dewatering :) Hopefully, i'm not wrong on this one .
http://www.damacproperties.com/plot-development/UAE/Dubai/Dubai-Marina/Damac-Heights/constr-updates/28.xhtml?p=4&cons=t
nope. dead in the water. the Jan2012 update pic on their website is a joke. better not show anything instead of lying about it.
noir-dresses January 31st, 2012, 06:34 PM nope. dead in the water. the Jan2012 update pic on their website is a joke. better not show anything instead of lying about it.
For now we can call the project Damac Depths, inspired by the movie Big Blue.
AltinD January 31st, 2012, 07:32 PM LOL, i'm almost tempted to change the thread title :lol:
flashinglights January 31st, 2012, 08:39 PM infinity boasts "unlimited exclusivity".
the banner out the front of Damac can say "Unlimited Bathymetry".
True Blue January 31st, 2012, 10:36 PM nope. dead in the water. the Jan2012 update pic on their website is a joke. better not show anything instead of lying about it.
Quite shocking that a massive company like Damac is prepared to lie like this.
Not surprising that the courts seem to be full of Damac and Select cases, the 2 biggest "fibbers" in the business.
DAMAC January 31st, 2012, 10:51 PM such as INFINITY TOWER 2007
http://i14.tinypic.com/2cf3woo.jpg
True Blue February 1st, 2012, 10:35 AM ^^What is your point?
Are you suggesting Cayan covered up the Infinity incident from their investors? Cayan put a hold on progress payments while they worked on the problem.
It is fine for Damac to post the progress picture, but should show the correct date when it was taken and if there is a problem which will affect the delivery of the project then they should keep their investors informed!!!!!
PrincessTower February 5th, 2012, 09:04 PM they don't seem to be in an utterly big hurry to get this thing going...
http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac210/PrincessTower/zIMG_4390.jpg
also showing the new Arabtec site office on the bottom.
aade February 26th, 2012, 06:24 PM site still filled up?
PrincessTower February 26th, 2012, 09:43 PM no activity. would have been posted otherwise considering the scale of this project.
Dubai_Steve February 26th, 2012, 09:52 PM Is it possible that damac organized this in order to claim force majeure?
AltinD February 26th, 2012, 10:37 PM ^^ Don't think so
bostonparkplaza February 27th, 2012, 06:24 AM I am just imagine how great experience it will to reach on the top floor of the building.
johnnyinspain February 28th, 2012, 06:26 AM Has anyone bought in this development recently? Are DAMAC still selling here???
Imre February 28th, 2012, 08:14 AM Is it possible that damac organized this in order to claim force majeure?
It already has a big delays so what would be the point?
It will be built without doubt, just the time a question.
Imre March 10th, 2012, 11:39 AM 10/March/2012
Damac Heights
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bizzybonita March 12th, 2012, 09:35 PM This area are the most misfortune on Dubai Marina . it could be the initial point to start of dominoes for all tallest block within next 20 years . :nuts:
HoneyDaddy March 19th, 2012, 01:37 PM it could be the initial point to start of dominoes for all tallest block within next 20 years . :nuts:
no worries 'bout that. From an engineer's POV, it cannot b d case:ohno:
THE DUBAI GUYS March 24th, 2012, 03:12 PM from the Damac stand at Deira City Centre:
http://i41.tinypic.com/2vwbgd1.jpg
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Blizzy March 24th, 2012, 06:32 PM Looks like 250m.
Imre March 30th, 2012, 12:25 PM 30/March/2012
Damac Heights plot
http://i44.tinypic.com/xkt3qa.jpg
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PrincessTower March 30th, 2012, 10:40 PM http://i44.tinypic.com/xkt3qa.jpg
haha, I like the logo. they will now seriously start to think how to preserve their fish stock. If the fence wasn't there Damac would need to put 'no fishing' signs up instead of the logo.
HoneyDaddy April 16th, 2012, 11:57 AM Maybe these guys are waiting for Arabtec to start worrying about Infinity and get this problem fixed?..
DAMAC May 5th, 2012, 10:22 PM any update
PrincessTower May 7th, 2012, 09:13 AM they've brought a big crane and a work platform on the cable, and started working on the wall. slowly. water still all there.
DAMAC May 7th, 2012, 08:10 PM ^^ sure it delayed action because of the water
because of the water that flooded the site work delayed
it was possible to be quite finished construction on floors ground
PrincessTower May 19th, 2012, 02:57 PM A second crane is on site now. looks like they are reinforcing the walls. work speed is picking up.
also, there is preparation work on the empty plot between the torch and dama heights. could be the site office. they are building a dirt ramp allowing direct access from marina road (between marina heights tower and torch).
this could be for damac heights building material since the infinity tower should be completed within the next 12 months to clear the access road in front of damac heights and infinity.
AltinD May 19th, 2012, 06:42 PM Yup, saw the second crane and increased activities there as well.
DAMAC May 19th, 2012, 10:31 PM had to be that of DAMAC takes into account the experience of Infinity Tower when it collapsed wall support base for the Infinity Tower
mehdi80 May 23rd, 2012, 04:41 PM Damac is currently doing a redesign of the tower to add additional floors. I work on this project.
noir-dresses May 23rd, 2012, 04:57 PM That's nice to hear but when, and how are they going to solve this problem they're knee deep in, and start some serious construction ?
Dubai_Steve May 23rd, 2012, 06:02 PM Damac is currently doing a redesign of the tower to add additional floors. I work on this project.
How many floors will it be?
AltinD May 23rd, 2012, 06:51 PM ^^ Back to the original design perhaps? :lol:
Dubai_Steve May 23rd, 2012, 07:00 PM 6 years after launch and they are still not sure about which design to build :bash:
AltinD May 23rd, 2012, 07:47 PM ^^ Why do you care, better sea view from your Torch apartment :D
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