I found an article on building.co.uk about this scheme being designed by Sheppard Robson- This was briefly mentioned in the wharf & posted on here a while back. This article gives more details.

An interesting scheme, backed by the Mayor but they will need to convince TH to change their masterplan for the isle of dogs which they drew up with the outdated millenium quarter. They need to get some very good negotiators otherwise this may go the way of the taller Crossharbour tower & Asda towers which were both told were too tall.

Anyway- Here’s the most informative parts of the article :

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"In London Docklands, Rowan Asset Management, manager of property fund The Merrion Fund and owner of the Glengall Bridge development fronting Millwall Dock, has produced a scheme that would not only provide some much needed housing for families and create a better environment for the surrounding community, but even more crucially could prove to be the catalyst for making the whole Millwall Dock area a more civic-minded and family-friendly environment.

Perhaps paradoxically, the suggested means of making the Docklands area more family-friendly is not to develop more low-rise buildings, but to build high. Architect Sheppard Robson's proposed scheme comprises a 54-storey tower and an accompanying eight-storey building as an alternative to groundscraper-style development.

Building higher allows for developer profit levels to be maintained, while giving away space around the building for public use. Sheppard Robson estimates that only 35% of the E E 0.8 ha Glengall Bridge site would be taken up by buildings, leaving 65% of the site for the public realm. The scheme's lower block would have family homes, in what would effectively be townhouses, backing onto three floors of leisure and training space with private apartments above. The taller tower would have commercial and office space on the lower four levels, then five floors of affordable housing, a 200,000 ft2 hotel, private residential and, at the top, a public viewing gallery. In all the scheme would have 270 private homes and 145 affordable homes - a third of the affordable homes would have three bedrooms, and 15% of them four bedrooms.

Fifty affordable family homes may not make much of a dent in the list of families waiting for homes in Tower Hamlets, but the approach might not stop at one site. Rowan Asset Management has commissioned a study looking at how the principles could be extended. Around Millwall Dock a number of other sites could come forward for redevelopment over the next 15 years, and if the same approach were applied, there could be the potential for bigger change.

Urban Strategies, the North American urban designer, has been appointed to work on a framework study for the broader Millwall Dock area, alongside Sheppard Robson, planning consultant DP9, cost consultant EC Harris and building engineering and transportation consultant Arup. Urban Strategies partner Michel Trocme says of the area: "When you are working with cities, it is difficult go back and start afresh, but it is interesting to think of what you might have done with London Docklands when the docks closed. Millwall Dock provides a wonderful opportunity to create a waterfront amenity as the heart and soul of the island. Canary Wharf has an iconic presence, and is a success as a place because there was a vision. At Millwall Dock, because of a lack of vision in planning, each development has responded to the dock as a back edge. When you add the buildings up, you are left with something quite mediocre."

If other sites around the dock followed Glengall Bridge's principle, the dock's hostile pathways would be replaced by bigger open E E spaces, more pleasant pedestrian routes, a local shopping "high street" that would be more useful than the small-scale single shops or leisure clubs integrated into residential developments across the island and, it is hoped, more people.

"The dock is geographically at the heart of the island so it makes sense for it to be the heart of the community," argues Claire Treanor, partner with planning consultant DP9. Alan Shingler, associate with Sheppard Robson, adds: "Once you have made the leap to allow taller buildings along the dock edge, then you can enliven the space between the buildings with facilities to suit the community's needs. Cafes, local shops, education and training facilities surround landscaped pockets of public open space promoting routes and views through to the water."

Tower Hamlets council has opted to adopt an earlier masterplan for the area for its Area Action Plan, which dictates lower rise buildings around Glengall Bridge. But Rowan Asset Management is setting out its case for this alternative style of development to the local authority. Shingler says: "The concept of creating open space for the public is the key to our representations to the AAP, because unless the height constraint along the dock is reconsidered, we will end up with more groundscraper buildings creating a barrier to the water."

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wow, that tower looks really good :eek:

looks interesting I have to say for the canary wharf area. Are there any renderings of it in context?

Looks amazingly similar to the Ian Simpson designed Brunswick Tower in Liverpool

"The concept of creating open space for the public is the key to our representations to the AAP, because unless the height constraint along the dock is reconsidered, we will end up with more groundscraper buildings creating a barrier to the water."

this point i think is very valid. plan looks good too.

it looks, quite appropriately for the area, like a boat's sail. :)

where abouts is it exactly on the IOD's?

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=537645&y=179220&z=1&sv=537750,179250&st=4&ar=Y&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf

can't tell much from the renderings apart from that fact it looks like a disgusting joke of a building.

What the smeg...

It looks very strange, I wont jump on the bandwagon yet, ill reserve my opinion until maybe we get some more renderings including how it fits in with the Canary Wharf area...

I can tell you this is more than fantasy...... but thats all I can say :sleepy:

In the first rendering of the tower the low rise block on the oppposite side of the Dock is the London Arena (the Chinese floating restaurant is the even smaller block in front of it).

It's very cool. I like it, and what with Pan Penninsula and London Arena redevelopment it will fit the area nicely. However it won't be allowed to be that tall. There has been a massive backlash against any more tall developments in the residential areas of the Isle Of Dogs, and the London Arena redevelopment has galvanised a lot of support against any more high density developments on the Isle. It's going to fact a hell of a rough ride.

can't tell much from the renderings apart from that fact it looks like a disgusting joke of a building.

Are we looking at the same picture? this is such a breathe of fresh air from the blocky squared commerical buildings carefully plonked in that area (Canary Wharf) i welcome somthing different, it looks sleak and tall.

I think it's amazing - will look great from my lounge!

I don't think there'd be too much of a protest on the height...the residential areas aren't actually that close to the west side of the dock...not like the Arena, there they're straight across the road!

What a great looking scraper!..........very logan's run!

............ermmmm don't no, really getting swayed by those negative view points.....on the other hand it is slightly strange and looks like a joke - god I hate all those negative bull shit comments - everyones sooooooooo picky.

If it doesn't fall over when it's built, I'll like it! 'Possible 54 storey tower' is a bit vague- Has this tower been officially proposed or is it just a vision?

Excellent find London Lad!

I note some people are commenting that its too tall it wont get through, but, how tall is it? Being mostly residential (only 4 office floors) its likely to be slightly taller than Pan Peninsula (50 floors), so say 550ft? I am not sure that will be an issue, other than its precise location or aircraft business.

I love the design, especially the lower building. The taller tower has one straight line all the way up for those nights walking home after one too many.

Wow cool.
Looks like some kind of big fat arrow that have hit the ground :)
Like someone just did shoot it up in the air and when landed they said "that's where we'll build her!" :D
(we used to decide holiday destinations like that... throw arrows on a map)

cool. good job london lad

Hmm interesting. Wasn't sure when I first looked at it because of the chunky shape but I think it'll add some architectural high-rise variety to canary wharf area.

yeah i can confirm what mikey says. this is a big un to watch out for.

Cool! Sounds great! So hopefully we'll be seeing a proper proposal soon then

Not bad. Will comment further when more information/renders are released. But yeh, not bad. :)

London now has 29 projects over 500ft.

Looks very interesting, although quite hard to tell from the renders. I love angular designs like this, similar in ways to the Criterion Place proposal in Leeds

As the article mentions they really do need to convince TH to change there policy for hte isle of dogs which will be very difficult- I would be amazed if they manged to pull it off to be honest. Also the fact a 54 storey building will add a lot fo people tothe area & increase congestion etc & the locals will not like that.

They have a good idea behind it- Build tall & havemore open space. If you look at the area south of CW its nothing but shite blocky 10-20 storey blocks that maximise the amount of housing with no thought to the public realm- See discovery dock, that 12-15 storey block oppo London area & that new one being built next to Pan-P they are all squeezing as much housing as poss to maximise profits in poorly designed buildings.

The Isle of Dogs has such potential but is a bit of a wasteland with very little built there in the last 5 years. They could have properly masterplanned the whole docks runnig down the middle with bars, decent shops & restaurants- As it is its full of shops of dubious quality & numerous temp agencys etc .Thank god Pan P & now hopefully Marsh wall being built we might see some higher quality designs going up BUT I still reckon the isle of dogs will be a wasted oppotunity with yuppie flats maximising their developers plots with no thought to the area as a whole.

Anyway rant over- This scheme will be shown at the MIPIM in cannes soon along with a lot of UK schemes so might get more info there.

If it doesn't fall over when it's built, I'll like it! 'Possible 54 storey tower' is a bit vague- Has this tower been officially proposed or is it just a vision?


I named the thread possible as this appears to be in pre-planning at the mo & has a lot of obstacles - hence the 'possible' from me :)

Love the look of this tower!!

looks good. IOD needs some decent architecture

Just posting these new renderings in the appropriate thread:

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WOW!!!

This really does look great! Looks really tall so that might be a problem...

WJ, I don't recognise those towers (very slightly rounded) opposite (to the east) of pan Peninsula on the first model.

WJ, I don't recognise those towers (very slightly rounded) opposite (to the east) of pan Peninsula on the first model.
Neither do I !! :)

And there's one to the south as well which looks new.

Yeah, that's mad, this SR tower looks over 200m! can that be right? what do you think?

According to the Sheppard Robson website its 230m

Wow, will be a great addition to London. It looks like a giant iceberg or an icicle. hehe. I hope it will be built!

I honestly don't think this will get through, but wow, that looks to be the perfect place for a really tall tower imo, just a couple of 90-125m towers in either direction to ease the transition at it would look stunning, i can just imagine driving in on the a13...

surely theres somewhere on TH website where we can write to & explain why there original masterplans not working & how they should allow for this development & others like it as they are actualy increasing public space at ground level.

http://www.towerhamlets.gov.uk/data/planning/data/forward-planning/data/millennium-quarter/data/mp-vision.cfm

Awww the Isle of Dogs is turning into a baby Manhatten! This project looks great, but I'm just as excited about those other towers on the first render. If anyone has any news, don't hesitate to tell!

Wouldn't this 'spoil' the view of Tower Bridge from West London?

I think this tower looks bulky and ungainly.

I guess it's supposed to be an abstract take on the lifting cranes that used to dominate the area, which I think is fantastic.

I really hope this gets built. Wonder when it is being submitted?

There is simply no way a tower of this size, in this location, will get pp.

You can just guarantee it will be either cut down to <100m or blocked altogether by the council.

Looks like Superman's crystal which formed his fortress in the film!... ahem.

I really like this tower. Adds a pinnacle for the more residential area of the docklands and offers a departure from boxy buildings.

Build it!

I wouldn't worry mate, you should see the star trek references across these forums...

There is simply no way a tower of this size, in this location, will get pp.

You can just guarantee it will be either cut down to <100m or blocked altogether by the council.

I thought the same, but I have been told that the height may not be a problem :?

Crossharbour was 170m originally and look what happened to that.

Please be built, please please please!

All the new buildings, many of which dont look boxy, fantastico!

interesting design and one which would only enhance an existing, largely unimaginative, cluster.

i suggested earlier in this thread that the shape reminded me of a boat's sail, but i think DarJoLe's probably right - it's more like an abstract take on a docklands crane. very appropriate, and very pleasing on the eye.

"Glengall Bridge is a mixed use high density development on the isle of dogs providing a mix of social and private, residential, educational commercial and cultural uses for both established and emerging communities within the area. The development creates a new focal point for the island with the construction of a stunning 230m high tower and a new urban square"

YAY!

Mikey, where did you hear that?

I think its a great looking design, love that pier bit over the dock at the base too. Fun vibrant and interesting, just what the area needs.

Build this one please!

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frick on a stick with a brick. what a beaut - big turn up for the Isle of Dogs. I'd say in the style of Ian Simpson - echo Sikario, fatter but much taller version of Criterion Place. Would be fantastic to see this go up, but don't have the upmost confidence in a smooth ride.

Did the marathon last month and running though the Isle of Dogs was an eye opening experience. Do you really think the residents would try and block something which is clearly of outstanding design and quality. The current housing stock in that part of London is, ermmm, not of the highest quality......

They block anyting, some probably wont even look at it, just say 'NO' straight away with the mention of a 54 srorey tower...

This isn't part of the Canary Wharf estate is it so it would need to go for full planning permission right?

It is beautiful and something fresh for the area. I really hope it does get built, but yes, it does seem quite unlikely.

This isn't part of the Canary Wharf estate is it so it would need to go for full planning permission right?

Yes, there is no masterplan for this part of the island.

Don't take that project too seriously.

Its a shame about the damn NIMBYs, if it werent for them, London could be a skyscraper paradise by now...

if you go there youd understand why they are so bothered. walking around the millenium quarter a couple of weeks ago i found it horribly oppressive. i cant imagine how the locals feel. the big problem is "public" space, it ISNT public too. its covered in security guards stopping people from doing anything basically. the result is you have immaculately kept so called public spaces that were totally empty despite the beautiful weather because developers see them as bits that their residents should look down on, rather than pieces of land in an organic living city that are actually used and breathing with human life. until this attitude of developers changes they will continue to make locals feel they have no stake in the developments that surround them and that these new structures are nothing more than hostile highrise fortresses for yuppies, tall gated communities. i get the feeling that sheppard robson are realising this and taking a different approach to everyone else, and one that contrasts strongly with the approved ideas of tower hamlets. see how S.R masterplan for the area has a huge profusion of truely open public space that is maximised rather than treated as a garden for residents thats only nominally open.

Due to its geography, the Isle of Dogs could become completely gentrified, a sort of natural gated community. Eventually I think it will happen, it's just a question of when. For example (and no value judgement implied) this year it voted majority Tory for the first time. Many of my fellow forumers seem to have a density fetish, and this can only realistically work in a 'nice' (read 'middle class') area. I would say that many of our wishes, a bizarre form of civic or nationalistic pride, can only be fulfilled if this total gentrification proceeds forthwith.

News article about the issue of height restrictions at CW, here are the main points from the 'icThewharf' website

http://icthewharf.icnetwork.co.uk/thewharf/headlines/tm_headline=sky%2Ds-the-limit%26method=full%26objectid=18181018%26siteid=71670-name_page.html

Sky's the limit

DEVELOPERS are hoping the sky will be the limit to allow huge new buildings by the Wharf.

Strategic property manager Rowan Asset Management is seeking to overturn height restrictions on the Isle of Dogs in order to build a residential tower block.

The skyscraper - similar to the "shard of glass" proposed for London Bridge - would be on Millwall Dock close to Glengall Bridge. Blueprints of the new building show it at between 35 and 45 storeys high.

At the moment, however, there is restricted height for buildings in the centre of the Island in the area called the Millennium Quarter, which was formerly the enterprise zone and is bounded by Mellish Street, Alpha Grove and Millharbour.

Tower Hamlets Council said there was no policy in place which would support a 45-storey tower in this location.

According to the council, buildings here should step down in height from the established 40+ storey developments close to South Dock and Marsh Wall, to 5-10 storeys towards the south of the Island.

The draft Isle of Dogs Area Action Plan also recommends that tall buildings should be clustered around Canary Wharf, with the height of buildings reduced from this point. A council spokeswoman said that councillors, planners and residents did not support tall buildings of this height at Glengall Bridge.

Alan Shingler is head of sustainability at Sheppard Robson, the architectural firm behind the project. He said: "The building we are planning would be like the shard, but without the commercial aspect. It would include private residential accommodation, a small amount of office space, retail and leisure outlets and maybe a hotel."

Environmental features such as wind turbines or combined heat and power units could feature in the development, as well as a public viewing area.

As yet no planning application has been submitted for the Glengall Bridge development although Rowan Asset Management says it has been in talks with Islanders and Tower Hamlets Council for the past year.

The council is in the second stage of consultation on its Isle of Dogs Area Action Plan, which will end next month
It might not be quite the 'limit' most of us here would have been hoping to see, but at least people are trying to raise the height allowances to a better level then they are currently. Whether or not this will happen though is very iffy.... 'THC' and 'Isle of Dogs Area Action Plan' seem insistant on buildings have to 'step down' when they get out of the immediate CW district! :ohno: Can't they see that expansion is neccessary and natural, and that if CW is to fully establish itself as THE place for businesses and companies to locate, they have to aim higher and wider...in effect, 'expanding the empire'!!

:cheers:

...well, it is for the architects, at least. I was at the Thames Gateway Forum a week or so ago and the centrepiece of the architects' stand was a model of the Isle o' Dogs with this tower as the centrepiece.

I like its massing. I'd love to see this one from the hill in Greenwich Park.

perhaps we should draw u a petition and send it to towerhamlets??

There is 0% chance of this tower going ahead.

perhaps we should draw u a petition and send it to towerhamlets??

We should. I live on the island and don't have any issue with this going up - it will be fab. We need more retail as well. And a landmark tower like this could really up the standrds of architecture. I'm getting bored with boxy towers - I don't think we should go the way of the city with they're 'we're so wacky' designs, but a couple of curves and angles would really complement the other buildings.

I REALLY hope this goes ahead - would look great from my living room!

No way this will go ahead. Forget about it.

If you are going to write you may want to remind them of their OVERALL responsibilities.

A residential tower of this size will no doubt be a draw for the wealthy.

Wealthy residents WILL contribute CONSIDERABLE council tax premiums to one of the most DEPRIVED areas in Europe. I am sure the councillors, who rely on keeping the charge as low as possible, whilst supporting ever more expenses and, of course, wanting your votes will have some input.

thats a good idea. but lets just hope that they dont have to redesign it and chop off like 40metres, just to get it built. id rather they just didnt build the dam thing if that were to happen

We should. I live on the island and don't have any issue with this going up - it will be fab. We need more retail as well. And a landmark tower like this could really up the standrds of architecture. I'm getting bored with boxy towers - I don't think we should go the way of the city with they're 'we're so wacky' designs, but a couple of curves and angles would really complement the other buildings.

I REALLY hope this goes ahead - would look great from my living room!

and i totaly agree, this is what the isle needs, not just for profits etc but it would look excellent next to the wharf and really bring life to the area. i think these council's need youth in their ranks and stop being so old fashioned and lift alot of these limits. its shocking that most proposals require height limits around the area

I'd rather CW taper downwards from 1 Canada Square, thus having a /\ shape CW. As opposed to a \/ shape CW. You know?

i appriciate your opinion but i think that where 1 cs is and how it looks it will always have its own centre of attention. i dont get why people always think that taller means attention steeling. i think radical and beauty is attention steeling. for example if you were to build the worlds tallest building that was plain and boring next to a radical, beautiful and prestigious mid-rise, i know which one id be looking at. i guess my point is, we cant hang on to the past, look at the crysler building in new york and the empire state, they both were trying to be pinnicles then ended up being trumped by the twin towers when they were built. but people still flocked to see them. even if cw were to approve a 400metre tower next to 1 cs i know id still look at 1cs as much as i do now.

Thing is though, personally I don't think 1CS is a good enough pinnacle for Canary Wharf

I disagree this is just a sketch design and i'm sure the finished article will be much more resolved. From the renders I can see this being a marked change to the rather conservative designs further north and will look spectacular from many views across London, a distinct marker for that area too. There also seems to be a tower proposed to the south? I'm not sure this is such a great idea but anythings better than that disgusting 80's mirrorglass confection that it replaces.
I have always thought on the subject of the Isle of dogs that an axis should be formed from the greenwich maritime museum through island gardens into the centre of the IOD. This would make navigating around there much easier and a tower at the end of the axis would act as a distinct point of reference too.

Will the mayor's new planning powers, if and when they come into force, allow him to over-rule the tower hamlets master plan for the isle of dogs?

Rowan asset managment don't seem to be property developers. Would i be right in assuming that they are acting as agents for the site's land owener and have been tasked with making the owner's asset worth more money by breaking the TH height limits.

If that is indeed the case, are we to assume that the glengall bridge design, which i like, it nothing more than a theoretical exercise, or would the landowner build it in the unlikely event that it is given planning permission?

If that is indeed the case, are we to assume that the glengall bridge design, which i like, it nothing more than a theoretical exercise

This is what I think indeed.

There was an article on regeneration & density in propertyweek & they mentioned this scheme- Rowan AM appear to be very serious & it also mentions TH will be releasing a strategic plan for Isle of Dogs. If Glengall can manage to change TH current strategy (hopefully by getting hte mayor involved) it could radically change plans for the IoD.

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Across the Thames on the Isle of Dogs, where land is more constrained, Rowan Asset Management is working with architect Sheppard Robson on a high-rise solution to housing demand. Their early proposals for the scheme, known as Glengall Bridge, involve a residential tower of at least 30 storeys, possibly 80. The tower would include some affordable units but most social-rented flats would be in a separate block.

‘We’re creating a very dense development as a way to answering the social requirements of the area,’ says Nick Jacobs, Rowan’s managing director. ‘Where we try and avoid conflict is by going vertically with the development and creating more open space at ground level. It invites people in to rest, socialise, shop, and I think the only way we can do that is by taking it further upwards. The constraint that is flexible, if we can get it through planning, is the height.’

Reaction to tower projects is invariably mixed but Jacobs argues that this one matches government criteria for sustainability and should feature in principle in Tower Hamlets’ forthcoming strategic plan for the Isle of Dogs.

A planning application is a year away, but Rowan has already consulted widely not just planners but also local residents – a largely overlooked constituency in the DCLG’s proposed network of ‘design champions’.

‘Sometimes we’ve been well received, sometimes we haven’t,’ says Jacobs. ‘But generally people are interested in the fact that we’re actually talking to them.’






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Hmm. Perhapse this tower is not as far fetched as some previously believed? They do seem serious, if not to buid it then to atleast change TH mind.

I really like it. Its different enough from the CW estate to make the cluster seem much more interesting viewed from the south, but not such a ridiculous Tour Signal-esque design that people will laugh at it and call for it to be demolished.

damn, its beautiful, reminds me of BOC in HK

It looks great, it amazes me how it stands up lol

It looks like some of the core is exposed at the bottom

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It would be stunning to see that in real life. And now we know an application is going in next year.

If this is successful it should set new standards for Canary Wharf :)

It won't be successful. Forget about it. Even if it get pp - which is ruled out - Rowan does not intend to build it.

But atleast if it did get planning permission, it would open the door to taller towers just outside CW. It could radically change the skyline, even if this particular tower isn't built.

Just like Newcastle Guy said. I mean, look at Heartsmere House. You reckon that's the last we've heard of that plot of land when a potential 230m tower can go there?

striking

Although rather parsnip-shaped.

Hope they build it.

tis nice that :) would make a change from the the box buildings in that area.

But atleast if it did get planning permission, it would open the door to taller towers just outside CW.

Which is not necessarily a good thing. The only thing that makes this tower work is the open space around it, and the idea that reducing the footprint by building taller allows more of the dock to be opened to public use.

If this building changed the height limits in the area, but was refused planning permission, who's to say a greedy developer comes along, builds a 90 storey tower on the spot, with a massive footprint and gates it all off from the public?

And lastly, I doubt there will be that many more residentials in the Isle of Dogs after the current crop for the simple reason the transport in the area cannot cope with the massive increase in people, even with Crossrail. Have you tried driving or cycling around the western side of the Isle? Tiny roads hemmed in by overdeveloped blocks of apartments. Not a good look.

Which is not necessarily a good thing. The only thing that makes this tower work is the open space around it, and the idea that reducing the footprint by building taller allows more of the dock to be opened to public use.

If this building changed the height limits in the area, but was refused planning permission, who's to say a greedy developer comes along, builds a 90 storey tower on the spot, with a massive footprint and gates it all off from the public?

And lastly, I doubt there will be that many more residentials in the Isle of Dogs after the current crop for the simple reason the transport in the area cannot cope with the massive increase in people, even with Crossrail. Have you tried driving or cycling around the western side of the Isle? Tiny roads hemmed in by overdeveloped blocks of apartments. Not a good look.

I agree, some of the low rise character of the Isle should be preserved. This is a nice tower though, vaguely reminiscent of a smaller bank of china.

There are a few council tower blocks on the Isle - one on the east side in cubitt Town, that's absolutely huge, and some smalle rones at the top of the east side near Canary Riverside.

some of the low rise character of the Isle should be preserved.

Mostly it's not all that.

Well, there is some nice open space in the centre, and around Millwall Park, fronted by some pleasant low rise housing developments Some of the housing is attractive and Victorian. The lower reaches of the Isle have an open, spacious, quiet character. I used to live down there. I don't think foresting the entire thing with skyscrapers would really be a good idea.

Rowan Asset Management has submitted a revised pa in late November for a small residential complex from 4 up to 10 storeys. Architect is Sheppard Robson.

bye-bye the 54 storeys tower.

Rowan Asset Management has submitted a revised pa in late November for a small residential complex from 4 up to 10 storeys. Architect is Sheppard Robson.

bye-bye the 54 storeys tower.

Isn't that for a plot of land next to where this tower is proposed. They have had those plans for that site a good while. I Think Rowan AM have had these sites for a while & have a number of plans drawn up for the area.

It is somewhat confusing. The application refers to the "Glengall Block": From 1 To 3 Muirfield Cresent And 47 Millharbour. I understand from the pa they do want to comply with the MQM in the area which apparently impose height limit of 10 floors in the area.

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Yeah i've seen that application- That Glengal block development looks quite small. Still at least for once they arn't trying to maximise building the whole plot as most other developments around here.

They also own the plots to the south which is were there trying to push the tower. Whether they can persuade TH , as has always been the case, is another matter. Still good luck to them.

I like the look of this - I think that one or two buildings like this would make a big difference to CW / Isle of Dogs. What the area needs is one or two daring buildings that will enhance the glass box look of the rest.

from ic wharf-

Setback for skyscraper proposal

Jan 9 2007

By Emma Midgley


A PLAN to build a 40-storey skyscraper on the Glengall Bridge area of the Isle of Dogs has suffered a setback.

Last year, The Wharf reported that strategic property manager, Rowan Asset Management, was seeking to overturn height restrictions in place on the Island.

These restrictions mean that buildings should 'step down' the further they are away from Canary Wharf, ranging from 40 storeys at the north of the Island to five to 10 storeys at the southern tip.

Rowan Asset Management had hoped to change the council's policy through lobbying when it reviewed its Isle of Dogs Area Action plan.

However, the plan, which is due to be submitted to Ruth Kelly, secretary of state for communities and local government, makes no mention of changes to height restrictions on buildings.


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In fact, it reiterates its position on keeping tall buildings in a cluster close to the north of the Island where the Canary Wharf financial district is located.

In the report, the council stated: "Tall buildings are already a feature of the Northern sub-area and the opportunity exists for further tall buildings to accommodate future expansion of employment uses in the area.

"The remainder of the Isle of Dogs comprises generally mid to low-rise development, which in part helps to provide the setting for the dramatic height of the Canary Wharf towers.

"The dominance of the Northern sub-area on the skyline over other areas should be maintained."

Instead, the council will try to create a 'high street' feel in the Crossharbour area, in response to residents' concerns that there are not enough shops or enough of a community atmosphere on the Island.

According to the report, the Crossharbour area will provide a significant increase in shops and up to 400 homes for Islanders.

A health club, an improved Island health centre, a public open space (possibly including a football pitch) and a 'significant increase in retail provision' are planned for the former London Arena site.

A spokesperson from Rowan Asset Management said it was still in meetings with Tower Hamlets council and hoped to submit a planning application at the end of the year for Glengall Bridge.

the sooner ruth kelly is out of that job position the better!

^^ This year, hopefully.

This project will never happen whoever is in charge.
Forget about this.

It's a real shame if it doesn't, it's a stunning piece of architecture.

I dont want this building ever built...For one it will ruin the views from my back garden in Plymouth....and seriously impact on the Town hall in Leeds.

and because it dares to be taller than Stonehenge!

ugly as fuck

Thanks for sharing that.

230 metres? Now that's more like it! Another 200m+ for the Wharf. :cheers:
(And yes, I only just found out about this. ;))

Its not happening.

Not sure it fits the area and I'm not sure about all the angles in this one - reminds me of that la defense in Paris.

Not sure it fits the area and I'm not sure about all the angles in this one - reminds me of that la defense in Paris.

Again, its not going to happen. Read a few posts back and you'll see the last comment is from 2006.

ugly as fuck

Seriously? What was the freaking point? This thread has been dead for years.

ugly as fuck

why bother?

why bother?

Why bother?