^^but it's highly not recommended to use torrent in US they will catch you so easily :)
in my case I can ask elder brother to buy this book and send it via mail address.

oh yes R.I.P Sadiq I loved to read his articles :'(

^^but it's highly not recommended to use torrent in US they will catch you so easily :)
in my case I can ask elder brother to buy this book and send it via mail address.

oh yes R.I.P Sadiq I loved to read his articles :'(


didn't know that !!!

or you can just order it from here :)

http://www.neelwafurat.com/itempage.aspx?id=lbb200586-172284&search=books

Aid Moubarek :)

Eid Mubarak :)
Kl 3am w ent b5ayr :)

6th of November 1990

Twenty-one years ago today, forty-seven women staged a remarkable protest against Saudi Arabia’s unwritten “law of convention” prohibiting women from driving – the only country in the world to violate this basic human right of freedom of movement. In a display of unimaginable courage and stunning defiance, these women from Riyadh’s intelligentsia took hold of the steering wheel and, accompanied by their supportive male husbands and brothers, drove around the country’s capital in a convoy of fourteen cars. The action had been planned carefully to “not to be too antagonistic to the culture,” according to one of ‘the drivers’ – as the 47 women came to be known. “We were mothers, well covered, nothing anti-Islam.” After thirty minutes, the convoy was brought to an abrupt halt by the mutawaeen – the special youth police force answerable only to the king, whose sole purpose is to enforce Saudi Arabia’s strict Islam. While the mutawaeen jeered and called the women “whores” and “prostitutes”, the 47 defended their action: “In time of war mobilization and national emergency we need to drive for the safety of our families,” they argued. In addition, they countered that driving was not un-Islamic as evidenced by women riding donkeys and horses during Prophet Muhammad’s time. The confrontation had become a mini-riot by the time the women and their male relatives were taken to police headquarters for interrogation. The men were forced to sign documents agreeing that the women would never drive again before they were released.
http://www.onthisdeity.com/6th-november-1990-%E2%80%93%C2%A0the-women-drivers-of-saudi-arabia/


the brave women


نورة الغانم .2- حصة الغانم .3- مها محمد العلي .4- رقية العنيزان .5- نورة الصويان .6- نورة الضلعان .7- هيا العبودي .8- بدرية الشميمري .9- دنيا الصالح .0- خلود الصالح . 11- مشاعل البكر 12- سلطانة البكر 13- وداد السنان 14- الجوهرة المعجل .15- وجدان السكران .16- فوزية العبدالكريم .17- د . عائشة المانع .18- د . فوزية البكر .19- د . عزيزة المانع .20- د . سعاد المانع .21- د . منيرة الناهض .22- د . سهام الصويغ .23- د . ألفت فودة .24- د . نضال الأحمد .25- د . هند الناهض .26- د . بدرية الناهض .27- د . نورة أبا الخيل .28- وفاء المنيف .29- ماجدة المنيف 30- ريم الجربوع .31- موضي المتعب .32- ريم الحبيشي .33- سميرة المطوع .34- منيرة القنيبط .35- الهام الصويغ .36- صبيحة المسلم .37- حصة عبدالرحمن ال آلشيخ .38- فوزية الفريحي .39- مديحة العجروش .40- نادية العبدلي .41- أسماء العبودي .42- مها الغانم .43- نورة العذل .44- منيرة الكنعان .45- منيرة المعمر .46- سارة الحصيني .47- موضي الغانم .


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2 of the women are good friends of mine,,
the daughter of one of them took the wheel this year as part of the new move ,,, am so proud to know those girls :)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27713062/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/saudi-women-celebrate-huge-protest-car-ride/#.Trcc8fT_mU8

Brave women indeed.

didn't know that !!!

or you can just order it from here :)

http://www.neelwafurat.com/itempage.aspx?id=lbb200586-172284&search=books

Oh sweetie thanks for the website but I can see it's not certified by debit card security shield I don't want to take the risk :-) I just got my new temporary debit card after finding unauthorized transaction by third party but the good news is that moron used his address and email on my account I hope by this moment UK police catch'em :banana:

Prince Naif’s War On Saudi Liberals And How Obama Is Abetting The Crackdown
The ascent of the latest dictator-in-waiting spells the death of reform for the Saudi Kingdom. Bloggers, dissidents, reformists are all feeling the pressure—and Obama is tacitly abetting the crackdown.
by David Keyes | November 11, 2011 10:51 AM EST
When King Abdullah appointed Prince Naif heir to the Saudi throne, congratulations poured in from leaders around the world. President Obama was no exception. “I congratulate King Abdullah and the Saudi people on the selection of Prince Naif as crown prince. We in the United States know and respect him for his strong commitment to combating terrorism and supporting regional peace and security” he said. “The United States looks forward to continuing our close partnership with Crown Prince Naif in his new capacity as we strengthen the deep and longstanding friendship between the United States and Saudi Arabia.”

Who is Crown Prince Naif? For the past three and a half decades, he has run the Interior Ministry and waged war on Saudi liberals, dissidents and human rights activists. Naif oversees a system of extreme repression. Bloggers have been arrested, hundreds of thousands of websites censored and cinemas banned. Just weeks ago, three Saudi filmmakers were imprisoned for making a movie about poverty in the Kingdom. Men like Abdul Hamid Al Fakki are beheaded for the crime of “sorcery” and Hadi Al Mutif imprisoned for two decades for making a joke about religion.

President Obama’s boilerplate diplomatic platitude may seem harmless, but it is demoralizing Saudi dissidents and liberals who have faced Naif’s wrath for over three decades. “We’re headed toward the medieval ages” a leading Saudi blogger told me on condition of anonymity. “Jihad is coming! The infidels are going to burn!” he exclaimed mocking Naif. “I’m really worried that a decade of our dreams as liberal dissidents is going to be demolished in a single second. What takes years to build can break down in a second.”

In November 1990, forty-seven women drove in the Kingdom and were summarily arrested. Twenty thousand fundamentalists gathered in Riyadh calling the women “whores” and one week later, it was Naif who officially announced that women are forbidden from driving.

“We’re headed toward the medieval ages” a leading Saudi blogger told me on condition of anonymity.


Amel Pain, EPA / Landov

In 2002, fifteen Saudi girls were killed when the religious police blocked them from fleeing their burning school because they were not properly covered. Saudi newspapers demanded an investigation, but it was Naif who ordered an end to all editorials on the subject. Two years later, Naif said of Saudi elections “[W]omen’s participation is out of the question.”

In 2009, The Economist asked of Naif “Could a tough interior minister be a reforming king?” This is the oldest game in Washington. No matter how draconian or repressive a particular Saudi King or prince, gullible Western journalists speculate if they are quietly working for “reform.” Not Naif: He personally threatened to “cut off the tongues” of any Saudi reformist.

Should the leader of the free world congratulate an unelected theocratic dictator for appointing his half-brother dictator-in-waiting? Hardly. Rather, he should have used the opportunity to apply greater pressure on the Saudi regime to dismantle the guardianship system that turns women into virtual slaves forbidding them from traveling or working without a man’s permission. Saudi Arabia’s DC embassy openly states on its website “Ladies cannot apply for a transit visa if not accompanied by a male relative.” Imagine the outrage if a South African embassy had stipulated, “Blacks cannot apply for a transit visa if not accompanied by a white owner.”

The President also should have withheld his congratulations until Crown Prince Naif apologizes for his outrageous and offensive remark that Zionists were behind the attacks of September 11, 2001.

The ascent of Naif spells the death of reform and human rights in Saudi Arabia. But it is also a golden opportunity for America to restore its moral clarity and get tough on the Saudis. The West will be judged when it is hard to make such choices—not when Saudi Arabia runs out of oil and it is easy. A good start would be conditioning any future arms sales to Saudi Arabia to the advancement of women’s rights. Demanding an end to a the printing of children’s textbooks calling people of other faiths “monkeys and pigs” would be another good marker for conditionality.

There will be a price to such policies, but people throughout the Middle East will look to America with renewed hope and optimism. The Arab Spring is a reminder that corrupt, repressive dictators cannot hold on to power forever. Rather than heap congratulations and arms on theocratic tyrants, the West should ally with those whom autocrats fear most—their own people.



http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/11/11/prince-naif-s-war-on-saudi-liberals-and-how-obama-is-abetting-the-crackdown.print.html

http://youtu.be/-e-qrew6Zsk

Nice article there

(Reuters) - A prominent half-brother of Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah has resigned from the Allegiance Council, the body responsible for overseeing succession in the world's top oil exporter, according to his website. (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/16/us-saudi-prince-idUSTRE7AF1XP20111116)


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/16/talal-bin-abdel-aziz-al-saud-resigns_n_1097825.html

Brave women indeed.

Look how they think

أكد صاحب السمو الملكي الأمير نواف بن فيصل الرئيس العام لرعاية الشباب أنه سيقدم لخادم الحرمين الشريفين تقريرا مفصلا عن وضع الرياضة في المملكة، منوها بالاهتمام الذي تلقاه الرياضة من القيادة ودعمها للشباب الرياضي، وقال في مؤتمر صحافي عقده أمس على هامش إعلان مشاركة منتخبات المملكة في دورة الألعاب الرياضية في الدوحة منتصف الشهر المقبل، إن هناك تقييما وخطة شاملة لتطوير الاتحادات وأن الانتخابات المقبلة ستركز على الخبرة والمؤهل. وتناول الكرة السعودية، حيث أوضح أن اللقاءات ستكون مع مسؤولي الأندية ومدربيها لمزيد من التشاور لما فيه رقي الكرة. وتطرق الرئيس العام إلى بعض الإساءات التي يتعرض لها بعض المسؤولين، فأكد أن مكتب محاماة ستوكل له مهمة متابعة ذلك وملاحقة الإساءات، رافضا أي تطاول على أي مسؤول رياضي. وعن حقوق النقل التلفزيوني أشار الأمير نواف إلى أن هذا الأمر لدى وزارتي المالية والثقافة والإعلام. وعن مشاركة المرأة السعودية في الأولمبياد، أوضح أن هذا الأمر من مطالبات اللجنة الأولمبية وليس جديدا، مؤكدا أن المملكة لن تقر المشاركة إلا وفق الشريعة الإسلامية وما توصي به القيادة ولن نشارك إلا وفق قناعتنا وثوابتنا. وأيد الأمير نواف وضع سقف لعقود اللاعبين ومطالبات بعض الأندية رغم أن نظام الاتحاد الدولي لا يضع ذلك السقف، إلا أنه أشار إلى أنه يقف مع الأندية



His Royal Highness Prince Nawaf Bin Faisal, president of the youth that he would submit to the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques, a detailed report on the status of sport in the Kingdom, noting the interest received by the sport of leadership and support for youth sports, said in a press conference held yesterday on the sidelines of the Declaration on the Participation teams Kingdom in the course sports in the middle of Doha next month, if there is an assessment and a comprehensive plan for the development of unions and that the next election will focus on the experience and qualification. And address the ball Arabia, where he explained that the meetings will be with the club officials and coaches for further consultation paper for the ball. Turning to the General President of some of the abuses suffered by some officials, he stressed that the law firm has entrusted the task of following up and prosecuting abuses, refusing any affect on any sports official. TV rights and Prince Nawaf said that this was in the ministries of finance, culture and media. And the participation of Saudi women in the Olympics, he explained that this matter of the claims and the Olympic Committee is not new, stressing that the Kingdom will not recognize the post except in accordance with Islamic law and recommended by the leadership and will not participate except in accordance with our conviction and our constants. Supported Prince Nawaf cap players for decades and claims some clubs, although the system of the International Federation does not put that ceiling, but he noted that it stands with the clubs


Okaz news paper :)

Seriously? This is getting out of hand:

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^^
:ohno::ohno:



Seeking counsel from a wise man of the Arab world

By David Ignatius, Published: November 26

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia

Spring is a distant memory now, including here in the Arab world. It’s harvest time, and people give thanks for what they’ve reaped in the hope that it will carry them through the long and chilly months ahead.

I think of these seasonal facts of life as I watch the television reports of chaos in the streets of Egypt and Syria, as revolutions struggle to be born. In this part of the world, the feast celebration is the Muslim religious holiday known as the Eid al-Adha, which came a few weeks ago, but the spirit lingers this Thanksgiving weekend.

For a regular visitor to the Middle East, this was a year that brought moments of joy, watching the exuberant affirmation of freedom and dignity in the streets, and also, frankly, of dread — that these passions will evolve into a darker mosaic of intolerance and insecurity.

I don’t know which outcome is ahead. That uncertainty is one reason I am glad that President Obama is pursuing a cautious policy — hoping for the best and supporting the good guys when he can, but also trying to hedge against more dangerous outcomes.

Thanksgiving is a time, too, when we listen to the elders gathered around our table, the people who’ve been through countless springs and winters and, if they’re wise, see things with consequent clarity. Several of these elders in the Arab world are missing this year — some deservedly so, as in the case of Egypt’s deposed president, Hosni Mubarak, who imagined he could rule Egypt like a king.

But there are some wise, older voices left, and they deserve a hearing. So listen for a moment to Prince Saud al-Faisal, the 71-year-old Saudi foreign minister. He’s had that post since 1975 and is the world’s longest-serving foreign minister.

I met Saud at his palace here a week ago, and it was a poignant visit: The prince has Parkinson’s disease, and his hands and voice tremble slightly. Though his body is frail, his Princeton-educated intellect remains sharp: This was the most interesting of our many conversations over the years.

I asked Saud to help me understand the Arab Spring and where it’s going. Many Saudis think it’s a disaster that will wind up empowering the Muslim Brotherhood, but the prince gave a more sympathetic view.

“It is a great transformation in the Arab world,” he said. “It is happening in different ways in different countries for different reasons. I think the similarity in these cases is a lack of attention to the will of the people by the governing bodies, and an assumption that they can go on neglecting the will of the people because they control the situation. But you can never avoid what the people want, no matter what government you have.

“One doesn’t know what will result from these revolutions,” Saud continued. “A revolution can turn out well: In America, it was a good revolution. But in France, it brought the Reign of Terror. What will happen in our part of the world?” Saud reflected for a moment, and then said: “Whatever decision they take, it will be their decision.”

I think Saud captured the most positive factor I have seen in my travels this year. The Arab people are writing their own narrative for once. They are not victims of domestic dictators or foreign powers. They own their future, for good or ill.

And what of Saudi Arabia’s political future? How does the Arab world’s richest and most conservative regime fit with this era of change? Here, Saud was measured: “We will listen to our people and develop accordingly,” he said. “We are developing, maybe not as quick as a revolution, but we are developing in a way that’s stable.”

Saud has the regal ways of a Bedouin prince, tall and thin, with an ascetic face that masks the spark in his eyes. I always wondered if I might see him in Jerusalem someday, at the head of an Arab peace delegation. That’s probably not to be, even though the Saudis have offered a plan that recognizes Israel in return for a Palestinian state. The peace clock never seems to tick past midnight to a new day.

Listen around the global table this Thanksgiving weekend — yes, to the clamor and confusion, but also to the voices of people who understand that while change is desirable, it’s also time to store up the civility and tolerance that will help get this region through the coming Arab winter.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/seeking-counsel-from-a-wise-man-of-the-arab-world/2011/11/23/gIQAkMe8wN_story.html

http://www7.0zz0.com/2011/11/27/20/680830869.jpg

Lmaao

:lol: لا ويقولون اتز اول قنا بي فاين مع نويف.. ايه ايه صح

Great vid!

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http://www.up.7ail.net/files/65360.png

:lol::lol::lol:

^^ omg love!! lol

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^^
you're so 2008

hey, the video's dated in 2010! was it aired in 2008? :lol:

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^^
don't we have a thread for these clowns ??
we should bring it back to life

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Saudis fear there will be ‘no more virgins’ and people will turn gay if female drive ban is lifted



Repealing a ban on women drivers in Saudi Arabia would result in ‘no more virgins’, the country’s religious council has warned.

A ‘scientific’ report claims relaxing the ban would also see more Saudis - both men and women - turn to homosexuality and pornography.

The startling conclusions were drawn by Muslim scholars at the Majlis al-Ifta’ al-A’ala, Saudi Arabia’s highest religious council, working in conjunction with Kamal Subhi, a former professor at the King Fahd University.
'No more virgins': A new report makes a devastating assessment of the impact that allowing women to drive would have on Saudi society

'No more virgins': A new report makes a devastating assessment of the impact that allowing women to drive would have on Saudi society

Their report assessed the possible impact of repealing the ban in Saudi Arabia, the only country in the world where women are not allowed behind the wheel.

It was delivered to all 150 members of the Shura Council, the country’s legislative body.

The report warns that allowing women to drive would ‘provoke a surge in prostitution, pornography, homosexuality and divorce’.

Within ten years of the ban being lifted, the report’s authors claim, there would be ‘no more virgins’ in the Islamic kingdom.

And it pointed out ‘moral decline’ could already be seen in other Muslim countries where women are allowed to drive.

In the report Professor Subhi described sitting in a coffee shop in an unnamed Arab state.

‘All the women were looking at me,’ he wrote. ‘One made a gesture that made it clear she was available... this is what happens when women are allowed to drive.’

The astonishing report comes after Shaima Jastaniya, a 34-year-old Saudi woman, was sentenced to 10 lashes with a whip after being caught driving in Jeddah.

There has been strong protest in the country about the sentence - and about the law generally.

But resistance to reform and change remains strong among conservative royals and clerics.




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2068810/Saudis-fear-virgins-people-turn-gay-female-drive-ban-lifted.html

the nerve.

أعتذر: لا يوجد مقال في هذا المقال!



محمد الرطيان

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عن أي شيء ستكتب؟
عن (حافز)؟.. ومَن الذي لم يكتب عنه؟!.. أصبحت أشفق عليه وعلى مَن ابتكره!
(حااافززز).. الكلمة نفسها تجعلك تشعر أن هنالك شيئًا (منسم)..
وسينفجر في وجه المواطن: فززز.. طع!
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عن أي شيء ستكتب؟.. عن ثورة الجماهير النصراوية؟!
يا رباااه (كما يقول فارس عوض).. إذًا الجمهور النصراوي يريد إسقاط الرئيس؟!
وماذا بعد؟.. هل سيتم تشكيل مجلس النادي من الجماهير؟.. ويُقبض على حسين عبدالغني بتهمة (أنو ما يشوت صح)؟!.. سيتحوّل المقال -بحسن نية وسوء حظ- من موضوع رياضي إلى موضوع سياسي ويُمنع من النشر!
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إذًا.. عن أي شيء ستكتب؟!..
عن الخوف من المطر.. والإجازات المطرية؟!
في كل مكان: الناس تبتهج بالمطر..
عندنا: المطر يكشف ألف خلل وخلل!
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عن أي شيء ستكتب؟
عن ستيني يُفتش عن الطعام في حاوية قمامة؟!
أم عن عجوز شمالية يفزعها البرد.. وتأخر الإعانة؟
أم عن شاب تجاوز الثلاثين ولا يزال يحمل ملفه الأخضر بحثًا عن وظيفة؟..
وآخر قتلته الوعود العرقوبية لوزارة الخدمة المدنية..
وثالث، هاتفني متذمرًا من (٣ سم) حرمته من وظيفة جندي رغم توفر بقية الطلبات!
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عن أي شيء ستكتب؟!.. عن هيئة مكافحة الفساد، والذي انتهى العام دون أن تحقق أمنيتي، ولو بكشف قضية فساد واحدة (متوسطة الحجم)، أو القبض على فاسد واحد، أو نصف فاسد، أو حتى فويسد زغنون من نوعية (لا يهش، ولا ينش) له ربع بطن، وليس له ظهر!
أظن، وليس كل الظن إثم، أن هذه الهيئات:
- هيئة حقوق الإنسان.
- هيئة مكافحة الفساد.
- هيئة الصحافيين السعوديين.
- هيئة حماية المستهلك.
- هيئة ......
هي عناوين رائعة.. وأداء مُروّع!
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إذًا.. عن أي شيء ستكتب؟!
لن أكتب!.. يعني ضروري أكتب؟!
سأعتذر منك، ومن القرّاء، ومن الصحيفة، ومن نفسي، ومن الـ(٣سم)، ومن جماهير النصر، ومن جماهير الهزيمة، ومن حافزززز...
فالصمت -أحيانًا- أبلغ من الكلمات، وأكثر ضجيجًا!


http://al-madina.com/node/341664

:lol: :lol: :lol:




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2068810/Saudis-fear-virgins-people-turn-gay-female-drive-ban-lifted.html

triple-facepalm.gif :bash:

First the "overrun with illegitimate children" comment from the hay2a, now this gem from the "professor".

Guys need your help-
Any one knows training institutes for ERP[Enterprise Resource Planning] or SAP in Saudi Arabia.
Please Let me know
Thanks

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Stop brain drain of professional Saudi women
Sabria S. Jawhar Saudi Gazette

TWO news stories published earlier this month got me to thinking about the future of professional Saudi women. Just where do they fit in Saudi society and what contributions will they make – or maybe it’s better to say, allowed to make – as working professionals in Saudi Arabia.
The Boston Globe reported that 13 Saudi women recently completed an international diplomacy course sponsored jointly by Dar Al-Hekma College and The Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University.
The same week, Bahrain’s Gulf Daily News published an interview with Saudi writer Wajeha Al-Huawaider, who warned that Saudi women studying abroad are reluctant to return home because they enjoy the freedom of independent living and they want to pursue greater employment opportunities.
These seemingly unrelated articles actually convey similar themes that dominate the lives of Saudi women. And in the case of women seeking diplomatic careers, it raises the inherent conflict Saudi women feel about the intense patriotism they feel for their country and the desire for their country to treat them better.
There is no question that the Ministry of Higher Education has done much in recent years to provide scholarships for women to study abroad. I am the beneficiary of such a program. The intent by the ministry is to give Saudi women a Western education so they can return home and contribute to society much like their fathers and uncles have done in the 1970s and ‘80s.
One reason why Saudi Arabia has flourished in the international business community over 30 years is because thousands of men studied in the West and brought that knowledge home to apply it to Saudi business practices.
Now women are given similar opportunities. But there is a twist. The reality is the Ministry of Higher Education wants its women to get the best education possible. The fantasy is that there will be well-paying jobs, respect and opportunities for advancement in the workplace.
I’ve always admired the work performed at Dar Al-Hekma, with many of its bold and aggressive programs to prepare women for the workplace.
Its relationship with the Fletcher School is a prime example.
Suhair Al-Qurashi, president of Dar Al-Hekma, told the Boston Globe, “We want women ambassadors, women officials, women leaders – not women working in the office. My efforts here will push the ministry (of foreign affairs) to make serious steps. Now they have no excuse. We have a prepared group, and they are not secretary material.”
Al-Qurashi is correct. The ministry will have no excuse. But that doesn’t mean jobs will magically appear once these 13 young women apply. The reality is that only a fraction of the diplomatic corps in Washington, D.C. is female.
This brings to mind Wajeha Al-Huawaider’s calls for Saudi women studying in Bahrain and other countries to return home with their new education and experience in foreign countries. She complained that Saudi women searching for too much freedom abroad is a dangerous trend because they will be reluctant to return home to fight for change.
The problem with Al-Huawaider’s concern is that many Saudi women don’t want to fight the good fight for greater freedom, demand driving rights and seek high-level positions in private and government institutions.
Do they want these things? Of course. But rather than pick up the cause, most young women are only too aware that they have one life to live. They feel they would be better served enjoying living an independent and rich life rather than beating their head against a brick wall because their male boss either feels threatened by their talent or wants them as a second wife.
I have spoken to many Saudi women. They view their future after earning a university degree as living outside Saudi Arabia, marrying a non-Saudi and being employed by a company that doesn’t care about the status of her family or whether she will be perceived as a “good Muslim girl.” Why worry about a supervisor who thinks a woman is loose because she works in a mixed environment when you can work for a boss who is only interested in the results and quality of her work?
That’s why it’s interesting to see that Saudi women want to become diplomats. They have the best of both worlds. They demonstrate their loyalty by representing Saudi Arabia in the most prestigious way. They live abroad. And for the most part their lives are independent. Take that a step further. Saudi women with international experience and education are eager to find employment with the United Nations, an NGO or a Middle East company based in the West. By Saudi standards, that is complete freedom.
If the Saudi government beyond the Ministry of Education truly wants to benefit from the experiences of Saudi women, then an education is simply not enough. Only through efforts to change the environment in the workplace and in government offices will Saudi Arabia be allowed to benefit from giving women an education. Today, living and working abroad is appealing.
http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentID=2008081214245


By MAHA AKEEL
The Saudi women brain drain
Wherever I travel East or West, I meet Saudi women who have chosen to live far away from home. Some have been there for decades, they were exceptions at those times, deciding to make a career abroad when there were few graduate and post graduate Saudi females and even fewer job opportunities.

Today, there is a plethora of female graduates in diverse fields of study, but the opportunities remain limited. It is no surprise therefore, with doors being shut on their faces here, to see so many decide to pack and leave toward the doors opening up for them outside. There are the Saudi women scientists, the researchers, the academicians, the teachers, the doctors, the media professionals, the businesswomen, the engineers, the lawyers, the artists, and others in almost every other field.

What a loss. A brain is a brain whether it is in the head of a man or a woman. So much money is invested in the education of girls, yet the return on that investment is minimal. Why let the fruits of that investment grow in foreign soil even if it is a neighborly country?

It is not just the limited job opportunities, but also having a real career. Abroad, the Saudi women are appreciated for their knowledge, skill and talent. They are given, in general, equal opportunity to advance in their career, paid a good salary and work in a comfortable work environment despite it being “mixed.”

The same cannot be said about their work here, especially in the private sector where they are discriminated against in salary, bonuses, training, career advancement and almost every aspect of their work. And being segregated from their male colleagues at the work place does not mean they are safe from harassment. Moreover, the segregation puts them at a disadvantage because they are removed from the decision-making places and process, which is of course male-dominated.

Even the education sector, which employs the highest percentage of women, most of the decisions concerning girls’ education and schools are made by men who have never set foot in a girls’ school. Appointing a woman as deputy minister for girls’ education corrected that a bit, but it is not enough.

And let us talk about driving. Yes, it makes a difference, for any woman let alone a workingwoman. Why should a chunk of a woman’s salary go to a driver? Why should a financially independent woman remain at the mercy of the whims of a man to drive her places? For many of the Saudi women working abroad being free to drive their own cars or use public transportation is enough reason.

How about being able to conduct their business without a male manager, which is a requirement here? I know several businesswomen who took their businesses outside because they found it much easier to work there rather than deal with the hassles and harassments in a country that claims to protect and care for its women (I hesitate to say citizens because legally we are not, we are constantly asked to be identified, represented and permitted by our male guardians).

In addition to the tens of thousands of high-school and university graduates searching for jobs suitable to their qualifications, there is a flock of young women who will be returning from their studies abroad with high expectations, new ideas and dreams of making a difference in their society. What will they find? Brick walls and concrete ceilings. I hope we can offer them the opportunities they desire and deserve.
http://arabnews.com/opinion/columns/article554085.ece

New year celebrations:

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I hate new year celebrations in Florida so cheap and lack of creative!

Happy New Year! :P

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Fuck You Ministry of Education

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When this happen ......this is really bad.... haven't seen Fire fighters yet after such a disaster .......complete lack of governance ....in a world class city......

World class city? Is that in Indian standards? And what is this 3bad?

this happened before 2 month's i think so
and this is a fire in girl's school in jeddah, there was numbers of death student's + teacher's
i feel so bad, for school student's; cuz of the bad quality and design for the most saudi school's.

Apparently after investigations it was said the fire was started by 3 girls from the school who lighted up few papers in the basement which led to huge fire after sometime.The girls felt scared and did not inform any one in the school about the fire which led the fire to spread in the whole of basement in the mean time resulting in disaster.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2068810/Saudis-fear-virgins-people-turn-gay-female-drive-ban-lifted.html

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWAAAAALALALALLALAA:banana::nuts:

Hey Saudis i want to open a thread didacated to Saudi Arabia in the African forum i want to change the whol bad prospective about the kingdom i will start the thread next vit will contains photos of saudi cities qnd photos for Saudi people ......etc i just feel saudi Arabia is judged by the media so i want to change btw i live in the kingdom dammam to be preciste and inshallah people will get to know the real Ksa

Hey Saudis i want to open a thread didacated to Saudi Arabia in the African forum i want to change the whol bad prospective about the kingdom i will start the thread next vit will contains photos of saudi cities qnd photos for Saudi people ......etc i just feel saudi Arabia is judged by the media so i want to change btw i live in the kingdom dammam to be preciste and inshallah people will get to know the real Ksa

What bad impression?All i know Sudanese take Saudis like their own brothers plus KSA is filled with us.You could be talking about other Africans.Though i do admit, some Africans hate the way most Saudis (or gulf people) make them feel sometimes.

What bad impression?All i know Sudanese take Saudis like their own brothers plus KSA is filled with us.You could be talking about other Africans.Though i do admit, some Africans hate the way most Saudis (or gulf people) make them feel sometimes.

+10 i meamt other Africans

Okie dokie

Great idea, Gaga! Let me know if you need any help.

What bad impression? All i know Sudanese take Saudis like their own brothers plus KSA is filled with us.You could be talking about other Africans.Though i do admit, some Africans hate the way most Saudis (or gulf people) make them feel sometimes.

:hug:


Also, please consider not using red for your posts.

Why not?!It is an option right? AHAHAHAHAHGreat idea, Gaga! Let me know if you need any help.



:hug:


Also, please consider not using red for your posts.

Great idea, Gaga! Let me know if you need any help.



:hug:


Also, please consider not using red for your posts.

Thanks man and i will need some help because i am not a saudi and uf some one talk bad about you're country you shut him up BTW i will start the thread next after i finish my exams so after that's been said I'll send a pm to you when i start,the the thread but above every photo you post there write the name of the city and we want to cover all cities not only the major ones

no please saudi arabia is full of illegal african immigrants doing all sort of crimes. if you could do something to help us with is would be trying to bash us and totally destroy our image there. With that we'll guarantee that they'll never consider coming here. Sudanese are excluded because they are the best people on this planet.

no please saudi arabia is full of illegal african immigrants doing all sort of crimes. if you could do something to help us with is would be trying to bash us and totally destroy our image there. With that we'll guarantee that they'll never consider coming here. Sudanese are excluded because they are the best people on this planet.

You see there is a disagree how come you say thar Africans do this crimes just because 2 or 3 situation comon sdare africans are way more better that's there so much hatred between KSA and Africa because you Guy's thinks that all the africans are people of crime rape drufs and thats actually irritating and thanks for the last part but i got to admit that you Guy's have some racism on African BTW i live in Dammam KSA

i was talking about illegal immigrants

And what does thr illegal immigrants have to do with my thread:sly: ?!!!

World class city? Is that in Indian standards? And what is this 3bad?

Yes,Higher then all Canadian Standards where u from , This city capable of handling more then 22 million people without any Hazards during HUJ Pilgrimage....and many more after than.......but this is really unacceptable in such city.......:bash:

Yes,Higher then all Canadian Standards where u from , This city capable of handling more then 22 million people without any Hazards during HUJ Pilgrimage....and many more after than.......but this is really unacceptable in such city.......:bash:

u r going n the wrong way :lol:
Canadian Standards come on :bash:

22 million people?

Yes,Higher then all Canadian Standards where u from , This city capable of handling more then 22 million people without any Hazards during HUJ Pilgrimage....and many more after than.......but this is really unacceptable in such city.......:bash:

this city wasn't even capable of handling its own poor population during the floods

this city wasn't even capable of handling its own poor population during the floods

On natural disaster even Japan (Tsunami) , USA (New Orlience), Thailand (Bangkok) show their Hands and asked for world help......u seems live out of the world.......:bash:

On natural disaster even Japan (Tsunami) , USA (New Orlience), Thailand (Bangkok) show their Hands and asked for world help......u seems live out of the world.......:bash:

in japan there was a earthquake + tsunami
in USA there was a huge Hurricane
in bangkok no idea
but in jeddah it was just a rain for 5 hours
there's no comparison ^^

^^+1000 lol it's ironic to know that Malaysia average rain for 5
Contenues day's and here KSA rained for only 4 hours and did this much destruction :ohno:

for iternational media
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for local media :lol:
http://s1-02.twitpicproxy.com/photos/full/492698814.jpg

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omg that is so funny :lol:

Mesch you're an qassaimi??

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Mesch you're an qassaimi??

Yes, I'm an qassaimi.

this is a new one for me ,,



The Jawan Chamber Tomb
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http://www.outintheblue.com/images/Jw_J_OH_3.jpg
http://www.outintheblue.com/images/Jw_mdn_a.jpg

http://www.outintheblue.com/FTP/Jawan_Web.pdf
http://www.aramcoexpats.com/articles/2010/09/Vidal-Recalls-Arabia-Days/
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/32113163/The-Jawan-Chamber-Tomb-Adapted-f

Yes, I'm an qassaimi.

والنعم اخوك ايمن من السودان :)

Hey saudis neby faz3atkm zooro alink hatha http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1479860&page=3

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great move

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Watch: M.I.A's middle finger to Saudi Arabia's insane driving laws trumps Madonna's sexy pop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uYs0gJD-LE) :lol:

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Watch: M.I.A's middle finger to Saudi Arabia's insane driving laws trumps Madonna's sexy pop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uYs0gJD-LE) :lol:

oh shit :lol: crazy saudi arabia :banana:

Hey Saudis iv been thinking lately why dont you guys change the saudi Arabia layout to a new organized one this .one is verry messy especially the photo's section which is dead and just revolves around the major ci what do you think guys it will get more forumers to the forum

WAKE UP PEOPLE!

^^ Saba7 el kheir :)

Yaghuth I always enjoy your posts so much.Thank YOU!

thank you dear :) ,, it means allot to me to hear that :)

It's been a while since we last had a banner, no?

Damn it ther is a lack with the Saudi forumers :bash:

http://youtu.be/4ITLNzPoEqs

Baybuh:cheers:^^ Saba7 el kheir :)

Anybody know what are the most prominent Saudi blogs or individual-run news websites?

Thank you.

I normally think he's maligh, and he is, but this episode's put a smile on my face:

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On a related note, someone should start a "youtube videos" thread! m))

wAKE UP PEOPLE!

On a related note, someone should start a "youtube videos" thread! m))

Done (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1384502)

^^ Awesome! Thanks, mod. :colgate:

http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x334/ZoolaSudaniya/pork.jpg

^^ nice one

Pedro miss you yakh!

talented young saudi musician , show him some love

http://agentwhiskers.bandcamp.com/
@AgentWhiskers

It's good, and he's a cool guy too.

You can give him feedback here http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=463396

did this tracks reminded you of Castle Crashers..anyone? good stuff btw.

8 foreign fast-food chains worth a taste


By Sean O'Neill, BudgetTravel.com
September 26, 2011 -- Updated 1400 GMT (2200 HKT)

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We know you don't want to fly halfway around the world to eat a Big Mac. But how about steamed cod with mustard sauce and chives, mixed vegetables, and parsley baby potatoes? That, for instance, is what's considered fast food in Germany.

When we think of fast food in the U.S., we imagine mega-chains with thousands of restaurants around the world -- too many, in fact, for the brands to have much quality control. But in some countries, such as Brazil and India, the concept is just catching on, and the quality of the food you'll find passing as "fast" is all the better for it.

Dining at white-table restaurants abroad is certainly a treat of travel (if you can afford it), but if you really want a glimpse into local culture, there's no better way than sampling the fare residents grab on the go. Of course, it doesn't hurt that the meals are as tasty as they are cheap. Here, then, are our picks for the best foreign fast-food venues overseas.

Budget Travel: See the restaurants.

Brazil: Giraffas

Signature Dish: Hamburger topped with a fried egg; black beans, white rice, and French fries on the side (10 reals, or about $6.50)

Many older and traditional Brazilians frown upon eating food with their hands, so when the Giraffas chain debuted in 1981 and became the first quick-service restaurant to hand out steel knives and forks, it caught on quickly. Giraffas now has 358 locations across Brazil. As at other fast-food joints, patrons at Giraffas pick up their orders from a counter, but food is usually presented on open plates, not in cardboard boxes, for guests eating in-house -- another acknowledgment of national preferences.

China: Mr. Lee

Signature Dish: Beef noodle soup (13 yuan, or about $2)

In American Chinese restaurants, the menus are usually dominated by heavy fried-rice and lo-mein dishes, but in China simple noodle soup is the standard lunchtime fare. Locals seem to especially love the options at Mr. Lee, where patrons can customize their soup with condiments like dried-chili oil, soy sauce, white vinegar, and pickled greens. The soup is ordered from a counter and served in ceramic bowls, typically slurped standing up at the counter. The "East meets West" chain was founded in 1987 by Li Beiqi, a Chinese-American entrepreneur who previously created a chain of Beef Noodle King restaurants in California. The late Mr. Li's face is now emblazoned on restaurant storefronts in a style similar to Colonel Sanders at KFC. By 2010, the homegrown chain had 400 locations in 19 provinces across China.

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Germany: Nordsee

Signature Dish: The Nordsee Plate, with steamed codfish fillets in a mustard sauce with chives, mixed vegetables, and parsley baby potatoes (8 euros, or about $11.50)

While Americans don't usually think of steamed fish as a fast-food staple, most of the menu at fish-buffet chain Nordsee is made up of precisely that. Codfish, plaice, pollock, salmon, and other fish are the stars of the show (patrons choose whether they want the items steamed, grilled, or fried). An emphasis is placed on fresh fish sourced from well-managed waters, catering to the German preference for healthy, sustainable food. The appeal, though, is more universal: The company, now with over 400 locations across Europe, is the Continent's largest chain specializing in seafood.

India: Kaati Zone

Signature Dish: Kaati rolls; Chicken Tikka (75 rupees, or about $1.65) and mixed vegetables (45 rupees, or about $1) are the two most popular fillings

Street-food stalls are a longtime standard in India, and most fast-food chains have struggled to compete there as a result. One of the first to break out, in 2004, was Kaati Zone, which specializes in kaati rolls -- unleavened flat bread that's been lightly fried and coated with egg, then stuffed with meat or vegetarian fillings and served with a side of fries sprinkled with tangy masala spices. (Typically, one roll counts as a snack, two as a meal.) Each Kaati Zone kitchen, restaurant, and kiosk has completely separate cooking and serving processes for vegetarian and meat dishes to accommodate local traditions. That kind of attention to detail may be why Kaati Zone caught on: The chain now has 15 locations, mostly in the city of Bangalore

Russia: Teremok

Signature Dish: Blini filled with red caviar or salmon roe (240 rubles, or about $8.30)

Founded in 1998, Teremok has spread to 111 restaurants and 80 street kiosks in Moscow and St. Petersburg. While soups, porridges, and salads all appear on the menu, it's really all about the blinis. These thin, triangular-shaped, wheat pancakes are wrapped around various fillings (sweet or savory) and are baked to order at the counter in front of your eyes. In the U.S., we're not used to thinking of this tasty dish as a fast-food item, but in Russia it's available all day and evening. Down it with some kvass, a low-alcohol drink made from rye flour with malt, or else some Hmel'noy Med (a half litre of honey beer).

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Saudi Arabia: Albaik

Signature Dish: The four-piece chicken meal (mild or spicy) with garlic sauce, French fries, and bread (12 riyal, or about $3.25)

Albaik was founded in 1974 in the Saudi Arabian city of Jeddah and quickly became one of the most beloved fast-food chains in the Middle East. (You might have spotted the business-class travelers on Emirates and Qatar Airways toting containers of Albaik along with their duty-free shopping.) Its claim to fame is its breaded chicken, which is pressure fried to keep the meat juicy. The enterprise has 46 permanent locations, which might sound like small potatoes, but when you consider how sparsely populated the Kingdom is, that's a huge accomplishment. The chain is so popular that the company operates a pop-up restaurant once a year in Mina (Makkah), which caters to hundreds of thousands of prayerful Muslims a day while they attend Hajj, a five-day religious pilgrimage that usually takes place in the fall. One passing observation: Only men are allowed to work behind the counters, in deference to local custom.

Singapore: Toast Box

Signature Dish: "Crispy grilled" kaya (coconut jam) toast with slices of butter, a soft-boiled egg, and a mug of kopi (coffee) (Singapore $2.50, or about $2 U.S.)

Founded in Singapore in 2005, breakfast-and-lunch purveyor Toast Box now has more than 30 locations in the city-state and 12 elsewhere in South Asia and the Pacific, including Hong Kong, Malaysia, and the Philippines. But the dish it specializes in has been served locally by roadside kopitiams (or coffee stands) since the 1920s. Toast Box brandishes one major weapon in the toast-and-spread war against longstanding roadside rivals: It has its employees dress in blue-and-white striped caps and aprons -- a direct appeal to Singaporeans' delight in snappy uniforms. Yet Toast Box wisely retains the familiar touches of a traditional kopitiam, such as Formica tabletops and natural wood decor.

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South Africa: Steers

Signature Dish: Rib burger and chips (32.95 rand, or about $4.50)

When McDonald's came to South Africa in 1995, locals laughed at its Big Mac; those three ounces of meat looked pretty puny next to the offering from local chain Steers: the Big Steer burger, which packs seven ounces of beef. In red-blooded, meat-loving South Africa, offering burgers of that magnitude is a sure way to gain fans. Steers has since maintained dominance as the national brand of choice, with 483 locations in South Africa today. Reminiscent of the Denny's chain in the U.S., Steers provides quick service and comfort food in a sit-down setting, though its restaurants also have to-go and drive-through menus. Burgers are the main item on offer, but pork riblets are a close second, served on a bun, as a rack, or as cut pieces.


http://edition.cnn.com/2011/09/26/travel/foreign-fast-food-bt/index.html

Not a big fan of their food, but I thought it's nice they were mentioned. :cheers:

^^

I think about 60-70% of Pakistanis know Al Baik because when they go to Umrah OR Hajj, they usually eat Al Baik because other fast food chains e.g. McDonalds, KFC, Hardees etc. are already in Pakistan...

Saudi's new breed of artists push the limits (http://edition.cnn.com/2012/03/07/world/meast/saudi-artists-push-limits/index.html)
CNN

^^ Great article, Yaghuth! Thanks for sharing. :)

Saudi's new breed of artists push the limits

By Rima Maktabi, Jon Jensen, CNN and Catriona Davies, for CNN
March 7, 2012 -- Updated 1022 GMT (1822 HKT)

Jeddah, Saudi Arabia (CNN) -- The woman in the photograph's face is almost entirely covered by an ornate mask-like piece of traditional Saudi jewelry. Almost like a niqab, it leaves only her eyes showing.

Perhaps surprisingly, she is also wearing an industrial hard hat and safety jacket, and the photo is called "I Am A Petroleum Engineer." It is one of a series by the Saudi artist Manal Al-Dowayan commenting on the jobs that Saudi women do.

"We have this debate in Saudi about women's employment, and some people say women should only work in jobs that 'suit their nature,'" said Al-Dowayan.

"It's a completely irrational discussion because who decides what suits their nature? I started photographing amazing women working in all kinds of jobs to show that the argument is invalid."
Saudi art is absolutely booming
Manal Al-Dowayan, artist

Other photos in the "I Am" series feature a Saudi woman doctor, computer engineer, TV producer, scuba diver, architect and interior decorator, all in similar poses with their faces partly covered.

Al-Dowayan challenges Saudi customs in other works too. For "Esmi (My Name)," she asked hundreds of women to write their names on wooden balls, which she strung from the ceiling. It was her way of breaking taboo that prevents men from saying the names of women in their lives.

Despite the controversial nature of her work, Al-Dowayan says she has had very little negative reaction at home.

"Whenever I do a work, people around me and my galleries get very worried, but in reality there's incredible room for dialogue in Saudi Arabia.

"These are issues that have been discussed many times, and I'm just bringing them into contemporary art," she said.

Al-Dowayan is one of 17 Saudi artists featured in the Edge of Arabia exhibition, which this year was shown in Jeddah for the first time after appearing in cities around the world since 2008. It is the first major contemporary art exhibition ever shown in Saudi Arabia.

"Saudi art is absolutely booming," she said.


More in the link. :cheers:

MUST SEE
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صحف: أزمة سوريا تزيد معاناة "مومسات" المغرب


http://arabic.cnn.com/2012/middle_east/3/17/arab.papers17March/gal.morocco.girls.jpg_-1_-1.jpg

وفي الشأن السوري أيضاً، ولكن من نظرة مغايرة، أبرزت صحيفة "الأحداث" المغربية عنواناً على صفحتها الرئيسة يقول: عاملات الجنس المغربيات بسوريا: الهروب من دمشق.
وذكرت تحت هذا العنوان: من جديد، تعود شبكات عاملات الجنس المغربيات في عدة بلدان عربية إلى الواجهة.. هذه المرة السبب التحولات والتغييرات العميقة التي أحدثها "الربيع العربي" على الساحة التونسية والليبية، والأوضاع الآن في سوريا.
العديد من هؤلاء المغربيات اضطررن، بعد افتقاد الأمن والأمان، إلى البحث عن فضاءات أرحب.
كانت وجهة بعضهن بلدان الخليج، فيما أخريات شددن الرحال إلى تركيا، رغم المنافسة الشديدة في هذه الأخيرة من قبل جميلات أوروبا الشرقية، اللواتي انضافت إليهن الهاربات من الأزمة الاقتصادية في إسبانيا وإيطاليا واليونان وبريطانيا.
فيما أخريات وجدن ملجأً في لبنان، وخاصة في منطقة الجبل، وفي بيروت الشرقية، أو في زحلة، المدينة اللبنانية ذات الأٌغلبية السكانية الكاثوليكية.
لكن هناك من المغربيات من فتحن بوابة أوكرانيا، لتخفيف حدة المنافسة في باقي الدول المستقبلة.


http://arabic.cnn.com/2012/middle_east/3/17/arab.papers17March/


lets all support moroccan prostitutes!

New traffic points system coming up

RIYADH – The General Administration of Traffic is to introduce a Traffic Violations Points System next Hijri year (mid November) which could see motorists get suspensions of three months to a year, a lifetime ban and imprisonment.
The points system will be initially enforced in Jeddah and Riyadh, according to a traffic official quoted Saturday in the Arabic press.
Drivers will be given copies of their points record every time they go to the traffic department to pay their fines.
When a driver gets 18 points in one year, his license will be suspended for three months, he will be imprisoned for seven days and fined SR300. If he gets the same number of points a second time in one year, his license will be suspended for six months, he will be jailed for a fortnight, pay a fine of SR600 and attend a rehabilitation program for one week. If a driver commits a third such offense, his license will be suspended for one year, he will be jailed for two weeks, fined SR900 and have to attend rehabilitation classes for two weeks. If a driver gets 18 points a fourth time in one year, he will be banned forever from the Kingdom’s roads.
Points for violations are cancelled at the start of every year.
The traffic official added that drivers will also be awarded special points for driving safely. Two safety points will be awarded for each driver who does not commit a traffic violation in one year. – SG

Points for violationsn Driving under the influence of alcohol, drugs and certain medicines – 24 points

n Hot rodding – 24 points

n Crossing a signal light - 12 points

n Driving in the wrong direction
– 12 points

n Moving fast and recklessly between vehicles on public roads – 8 points

n Not following the hand signals of a traffic officer – 8 points

n Driving a car without brakes and lights – 8 points

n Not following traffic rules in a roundabout – 6 points
n Exceeding the speed limit by more than 25 kilometers an hour – 4 points

n Overtaking school buses when they stop to let students get on or get off
– 4 points

n Not fastening safety belts – 2 points

n Using mobile phones while driving
– 2 points

n Stopping on railway tracks – 6 points

n Transporting uncovered loads
– 4 points

n Not stopping completely at stop signals – 6 points

Hey Saudis people :P

Might I know how developed Riyadh City is compared to Doha and Dubai ? Riyadh

Hi there,

Riyadh is far more developed than Doha, that city would be considered medium-size in SA. I don't know about Dubai.

Hey Saudis people :P

Might I know how developed Riyadh City is compared to Doha and Dubai ? Riyadh

+1

Hi there,

Riyadh is far more developed than Doha, that city would be considered medium-size in SA. I don't know about Dubai.

Riyadh is better then Doha since when :lol::nuts: Riyadh might be bigger in terms of Area but Doha is wayyy better in terms of development :cheers:

Based on what? Number of skyscrapers? :laugh:

Doha might be up and coming but it's not even comparable to Riyadh in terms of infrastructure, healthcare, or even public services. The only area in which I see Doha excelling over Riyadh is education, and we all know how that was "achieved".

Based on what? Number of skyscrapers? :laugh:

Doha might be up and coming but it's not even comparable to Riyadh in terms of infrastructure, healthcare, or even public services. The only area in which I see Doha excelling over Riyadh is education, and we all know how that was "achieved".

:nono: yesterday i camed from Doha the infrastructure is unbelievable there healthcare seriously ??? :lol:

Here mesch :)

Healthcare in Qatar


Introduction
Qatar, a nation rich in oil and gas natural reserves, is located in the Middle East and is neighboured by Saudi Arabia and Bahrain. With a land area of 4,184 square miles, the population was estimated to be 825,000 at the start of 2008.


General information
The World Health Organisation (WHO) recently ranked Qatar at the top of the per capita health expenditure list among the Gulf Cooperative Council (GCC). This expenditure has had a positive effect on some vital health statistics for the country. For example, the crude death rate in 2006 was 2.09 per 1,000 of the population. The total fertility rate and the average life expectance at birth for the same period was 2.67 and 75.8 years respectively.

The National Health Authority (NHA) was established in 2005 to replace the Ministry of Public Health. The NHA overseas the necessary medical services and entrusts them to public health institutions, the main one being the Hamad Medical Corporation (HMC). The capital city, Doha, has numerous hospitals and clinics. Health centres have also been set-up along the highways for ease of access.

Since the country opened its first hospital 50 years ago, many changes and improvements have been introduced. The healthcare system is available to all; whether you are a national, expatriate or a tourist. Qatar has a public health service that provides free or highly subsidised healthcare and, generally speaking, it is of an excellent standard.

The one possible exception to this may be treatment for highly specialised services. Although the healthcare system has been substantially improved, it is not without its problems. A growing population, coupled with an increased need for expensive treatment, is costly to run.

Although healthcare is free or highly subsidised, as an expatriate or tourist, it is likely that you will have to pay some of your medical costs.

For these reasons it is recommended that tourists and expatriates avail of international health insurance.


Preventative healthcare
One of the main focuses for preventative healthcare is the fight against contagious diseases. As such, Qatar has a comprehensive list of vaccinations for newborns and was one of the first countries to add an anti influenza vaccine to this list. As well as contagious diseases, a section was set up for non-communicable conditions such as tobacco addiction, accidents and a unit dedicated to nutrition.


Hospitals
There are 9 hospitals in Qatar, 5 of which are government operated and 4 which are privately run. In 2006, there were a total of 2,077 hospital beds, which equates to approximately 25 beds per 10,000 of the population. Some of the main hospitals include the Hamad General Hospital, which has 616 beds covering all general medical areas, with specialities in paediatrics, surgery and internal medicine; the Rumaillah Hospital and the Al Amal Hospital, a ground-breaking specialist centre for the detection, treatment and rehabilitation of cancer. In 2006 there were 27.6 physicians and 73.8 nurses per 10,000 of the population.


Emergency services
The ambulance service received a major boost in numbers in 2002 and, as such, ambulances are available nationwide. As a result, there is a low average response time to an emergency call. To further improve the service, ambulances are linked to the Hamad Hospital via satellite.


Pharmacy/Chemist
The NHA, working to international standards, controls the manufacturing and marketing of drugs. There are numerous pharmacies in Qatar, with some having late opening hours.


Common complaints
Non-natives, and those who are not used to searing summertime temperatures, can be susceptible to sunstroke and sunburn as temperatures often reach 50°C during the summer months. Dehydration is also something to be aware of. Respiratory problems arise due to the dust and sand in the air. For some expatriates, alcoholism is also a condition that has been noted by the medical staff of Qatar.

Gaga, how do you expect me to take you seriously when you post articles like this one? Have you any idea about healthcare in Riyadh, its major world renowned hospitals? In SA even? :lol:

The only country in the Middle East with healthcare comparable to that of SA is Israel, and no it's really not a point of discussion. Not with those kind of articles anyway lol.

And you've been there? Congrats. I've been there twice. Now congratulate me back. :)

Gaga, how do you expect me to take you seriously when you post articles like this one? Have you any idea about healthcare in Riyadh, its major world renowned hospitals? In SA even? :lol:

The only country in the Middle East with healthcare comparable to that of SA is Israel, and no it's really not a point of discussion. Not with those kind of articles anyway lol.

And you've been there? Congrats. I've been there twice. Now congratulate me back. :)

LOL!! :lol::lol: congrats i dont have just one idea a lot actually i mean how come Riyadh healthcare be better then Doha reasons please!! :colbert:

Gaga, how do you expect me to take you seriously when you post articles like this one? Have you any idea about healthcare in Riyadh, its major world renowned hospitals? In SA even? :lol:

The only country in the Middle East with healthcare comparable to that of SA is Israel, and no it's really not a point of discussion. Not with those kind of articles anyway lol.

And you've been there? Congrats. I've been there twice. Now congratulate me back. :)
Lol I love you defended yourself :banana:

LOL!! :lol::lol: congrats i dont have just one idea a lot actually i mean how come Riyadh healthcare be better then Doha reasons please!! :colbert:

The hordes of Qatari people come to Riyadh for treatment. Just go to any major public or private hospital in Riyadh and see how many Qatari car plates are around. Its no way the other way around.


Lol I love you defended yourself :banana:

how about loving me? :sad2:

The hordes of Qatari people come to Riyadh for treatment. Just go to any major public or private hospital in Riyadh and see how many Qatari car plates are around. Its no way the other way around.




how about loving me? :sad2:

Thats weird but still Riyadh isn't comparable with Doha

totally agree with GAGA, Doha is way better than Riyadh in everything Health care, education(top in middle east and 4th as a global rank) , human develop index(very high 37th ranked a world), and infrastructures. I went to Riyadh 1 week ago and you guys never can compare Riyadh to Doha or Dubai.

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So, apparently, Michelle Rodriguez has been to Riyadh? lol. So random.

Edit: Checked her twitter, looks like she really enjoyed her stay there :D

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we had a magical time in #Riyadh and #AlKhobar such great culture and strong family values

@JoharahTalal you are a rock star thank you for letting me embrace your culture your a great mother send my love to Khaeld and Maggie MRod

@SarahOmair you have a great soul and a great family I have enjoyed #Saudi lots of love MRod

and from others on the trip:

Saudi Arabia...you were the sweetest. We thank you for the MOST gracious of welcomes...And the food...so much, so so much, glorious food. - bougi

in #Dubai Excited about tonight. #Saudi was full of #amazing people and #culture. sending #love to all our generous hosts. forever indebted - Zack Tanjeloff

thanx Mesch for sharing i tried so hard to find any thing about her tour in saudi arabia

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looove it

^^ Use the YouTube videos thread >(

Edit: hehe, that was awesome. m))

^^ Use the YouTube videos thread >(

Edit: hehe, that was awesome. m))

sorry i forget :nuts:

Who iis rudrigs girl and when was she here the only foreigner I heard came to KSA is hilaru clinton lol

Ha. Many non-Arab celebrities (aka foreigners lol) have visited the Kingdom.. I remember seeing a pic once of Mike Tyson in Mecca. :D

Michelle Rodriguez is the one from Avatar/Lost.

Ha. Many non-Arab celebrities (aka foreigners lol) have visited the Kingdom.. I remember seeing a pic once of Mike Tyson in Mecca. :D

Michelle Rodriguez is the one from Avatar/Lost.

Don't brag kid anyway yeah I saw the pic I believe he is Muslim right? Saudi Arabia would've been a great country but some Saudi people are ruining it the majority of course anyway I hope The saudi way of thinking would change I lived 17 years here in the Kingdom but i got to say the number of the great open minded Saudis are only 5 or 4 so you guys have a major issue

Brag? Kid? Issues? okee.

Brag? Kid? Issues? okee.

Split it you smart......:nuts::nuts: Brag for you the kids and issues are for general Saudis ;) and you know exactly what im talking about :)

I have no idea what the hell you're on about :laugh:

and no, adding a snarky smiley to the end of your sentence doesn't help.

I have no idea what the hell you're on about :laugh:

and no, adding a snarky smiley to the end of your sentence doesn't help.

Help what now i dont know what you are on about ? :sly:

I have no idea what the hell you're on about :laugh:

and no, adding a snarky smiley to the end of your sentence doesn't help.

hehehehehe...

Ha. Many non-Arab celebrities (aka foreigners lol) have visited the Kingdom.. I remember seeing a pic once of Mike Tyson in Mecca. :D

Michelle Rodriguez is the one from Avatar/Lost.

Oh, so that rapist decided to convert to Islam?

Anybody know of really good furnished apartment establishments in Al-Khobar?

Happy 50,000th Postaversary!!! :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

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3ugbal el miyyet alf inshallah :D :cheers:

wow nice catch hahaha I think we gonna reach the 100,000 in less than seven years.

Saudi guy are you Saudi ? and where do u live ?

wow nice catch hahaha I think we gonna reach the 100,000 in less than seven years.

Seven years? Isn't that a bit too long?

How long did it take us to reach 50K? I've always wanted to know when Saudi SSC was established but always forget to ask :lol:

good night puppies ...

Saudi guy are you Saudi ? and where do u live ?

Yep I'm Saudi but live in Largo, Florida.

Mesch the Saudi section was established on December, 25th 2005. At that time we were only 3 to 5 members. I, Olive touch,Hijazi and anas anani as I remember.

Which other Mideastern forums were present at the time? And that Anas Anani sure was something!

Anas Anani was a trouble maker so he gets banned shortly after the newborn of Saudi section. at that time all GCC, Lebanon and Israel have their own sections except the Saudi of course.

2005 is also when the Sudanese forum was established I believe

Anas Anani was a trouble maker so he gets banned shortly after the newborn of Saudi section. at that time all GCC, Lebanon and Israel have their own sections except the Saudi of course.

So Jordan and Iraq were the only forums established after the Saudi forum?

Precisely. If I'm not mistaken many members from those forums voted to create the Saudi forum.

They got tired of you loitering around their forums? :D

yah they couldn't stand my awful English :lol:

Lol