View Full Version : St.Pete's New Skyline


TallTampa
March 19th, 2006, 03:30 PM
A sleepy little town, huh?
http://www.sptimes.com/2006/03/19/Neighborhoodtimes/A_downtown_transformed.shtml

Hannibal
March 19th, 2006, 03:44 PM
You beat me to it! I picked up the paper this morning and man, what a great centerfold in the Neighborhood Times! I think I'll get a poster frame and hang it on the wall. It doesn't show the two buildings on 5th Ave N or the new All Childrens Hosp. But I've been hoping for a new progressive picture to replace the old one.

TallTampa
March 19th, 2006, 04:01 PM
They left off at least 5 or 6 projects, 2 of which are under construction. However, this is still cool look into the future of St.Pete.

FloridaFuture
March 19th, 2006, 06:54 PM
They left off at least 5 or 6 projects, 2 of which are under construction. However, this is still cool look into the future of St.Pete.

Yea now if only the Trib or Times would do one for Tampa.....

I-275westcoastfl
March 19th, 2006, 07:25 PM
Wow st.pete is lookin good but we need something to pass 400 feet now otherwise florida just got itself a new kick ass skyline. :cheers: could we even surpass tampa? (not in height but overall skyline)
Now
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f345/MK275/skyline2006.jpg
2008
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f345/MK275/skylineof2008.jpg

TampaMike
March 19th, 2006, 07:46 PM
WOW! Number 12 is going to be the tallest. Look how many stories it will be. :D :D

smiley
March 19th, 2006, 09:17 PM
Well, we know the St. PEte Times will not do one for Tampa. The Trib should do it.

I-275westcoastfl
March 20th, 2006, 01:07 AM
WOW! Number 12 is going to be the tallest. Look how many stories it will be. :D :D
Haha just noticed that :lol: dubai better watch out.

SDK4
March 20th, 2006, 04:29 AM
St. Pete is filling in their skyline, and doing a good job at it. Maybe in five years St. Pete will have a very nice downtown.

Jahi98
March 20th, 2006, 05:09 AM
I hope it all gets built. Even with all of these new projects, there's plenty of room for more. It definately needs something in over 400ft to create a focal point. I'm hoping the Tropicana Block brings that building. It's perfect for that.

I'd like to see something like this for Tampa and Clearwater as well.

lamsalfl
March 20th, 2006, 09:57 AM
Would the metro area be better off with central core city to market the region with to the world? "Metro Tampa" or "Metro St. Pete"?

Would that help attracting more business? I know little about the area, so if some locals could help me out, that'd be great!

multifamilyinvestor
March 20th, 2006, 05:56 PM
^ Tampa / St. Petersburg's challenge attracting business and its challenges in general are due to lack of regional cooperation, not due to multinucleation. Personally I believe that multinucleation can create more interesting urban areas. St. Petersburg has its own separate personality from Tampa - and I enjoy watching them both grow and thrive. Even small towns like Tarpon Springs can have a unique identity and add to the fabric of the metro area.

As far as attracting companies - most Florida cities are newer urban areas. We do not have the historical industry that cities up north do, or a city like New Orleans does. The vast majority of Florida cities grew as tourism and retirement centers. The state of Florida's university system is newer as well - and not as mature as some smaller states. The economy in Tampa Bay seems to be based on mostly service industries. I think as downtown Tampa and St. Petersburg become more and more attractive for people to live, they will become more and more attractive as headquarters for companies looking to relocate as well.

robbie
March 20th, 2006, 06:45 PM
400 feet! Why stop there? There should be a Trump Tower St. Pete. Not a replica of the one in Tampa but something to match or enhance the skyline.

Sunstorm
March 20th, 2006, 06:45 PM
Oooh, St. Pete is turning into a big "little" city! I'll bet those pics of St. Pete's projected downtown has all the nimbys sh*tting their pants.

Jahi98
March 20th, 2006, 06:54 PM
The area can be marketed as one metro with three urban centers, if each city understands its role as part of ONE metro area and recognizes its interdependence on the other cities as opposed to being separate metros that happen to be adjacent each other.

JGJ2010
March 21st, 2006, 02:52 AM
St Pete's waterfront is looking more and more like West Palm or one of Miami's rich waterfront.

SDK4
March 21st, 2006, 02:57 AM
I wouldn't quite put it in the same sentence as Miami, but St. Pete is growing. It will only be a matter of time before something huge gets built there, depending only if the community will allow it.

TampaMike
March 21st, 2006, 04:14 AM
Tampa/Clearwater/St. Pete are all going to look good when the Super Bowl comes in '09. All we need is more scenary to go with the awesome projects. Hopefully traffic will be eased before the whole rush of tourist. The airport interchange should be done before the SB, right? We don't need a whole mess there. Just wonder, who will get more tourists? Tampa? Clearwater? Or St. Pete?

FLAWDA-FELLA
March 21st, 2006, 08:16 AM
Looks like St. Pete's new skyline could damn near rival Tampa's, except for being somewhat smaller. Who knows, maybe St. Pete will get a 500' er before the 2009 Superbowl kick-off ??

TallTampa
March 21st, 2006, 05:24 PM
It's certainly no Miami, but compared to St.Pete 10-15 years ago it's truly amazing. It really looks impressive from the water. I'll try to take some shots from my boat this weekend, you'll see what I mean.

Tallaman
March 22nd, 2006, 07:43 PM
St Pete's downtown is a tribute to the work done over the years to develop and transform it. The awesome skyline is an indication that St Pete is now beginning to realize its potential rather than have a bad reputation for unmet potential. Congrats St Pete and keep going!

TampaMike
March 22nd, 2006, 11:35 PM
I wonder who would have the better skyline in 2009. St. Pete or Tampa?

SDK4
March 23rd, 2006, 05:14 AM
Tampa by a landslide. TTT will be finished and several other smaller projects will still make Tampa the winner.

Jasonhouse
March 23rd, 2006, 06:05 AM
^Indeed... Imo, St Pete would "lose" based on the gaps, the lesser quantity, and being much shorter... St Pete would probably only "win" based on the subjective 'quality' of the towers in the skyline... (both are going to increasingly suffer from the "tabletop effect", which is something that I despise)

Think of it this way... If everything proposed in both cities magically gets built, St Pete would be nice, but Tampa would have like 9 buildings taller than the tallest building in DT St Pete, would have just as many in the 300-400ft range (where much of St Pete's growth is), and would still have several more buildings than St Pete under 300ft.

TallTampa
March 23rd, 2006, 06:26 PM
I have no doubt that Tampa will the more impressive skyline. As Jason stated on sheer height alone, however St.Pete's skyline continues to fill in at a seemingly faster pace. I'm sure both skylines will get some air time during that week, but Tampa's skyline will be(and should be) most prominent.

smiley
March 23rd, 2006, 09:32 PM
IT is a matter of scale. St. Pete will be dense by its scale (though it is going to become a table top soon) and Tampa will be dense by its scale. IF you were to put them next to each other, things would be different, but they are 20 odd miles apart, so who cares. let them both grow.

cwat212
March 24th, 2006, 06:44 PM
St. Pete has the better waterfront with wonderful marinas downtown and huge waterfront parks. This is what makes downtown St. Pete great. I thinkTampa will always have the more impressive skyline but the things above can't be duplicated in Tampa. I know bayshore is Tampa's waterfront park but my kids can't run around there without being squashed....

It is great to see all the projects in both cities. Is there any reason St. Pete hasn't grown as vertical yet? FAA maybe?

Tallaman
March 24th, 2006, 06:56 PM
Tampa has invested its capital in making its downtown an employment center, an arena and more recently a livable residential area and the result is impressive high-rise office buildings with burgeoning residential development and a hockey team. St Pete has focused more on its waterfront, a baseball stadium, and more mix downtown and the result is a beautiful waterfront park with lots activities, a baseball team, shopping, restaurants, nightlife, etc., none of which serve to create a more impressive skyline than Tampa. Ironically, they both want what the other has. IMO when St Pete establishes a strategic advantage over Tampa such as a superior mass transit and transportation system, it may serve to catalyze development of a more impressive skyline with taller residential and office high-rises. Until then, Tampa will retain a more impressive skyline.

smiley
March 24th, 2006, 08:53 PM
St. Pete is not central enough to get bigger than Tampa for a long time. That being said, they are doing a very nice job and I hope they keep it up.

Skyman
March 26th, 2006, 07:57 PM
I've lived in that city a time and hope when I'll be back there again I'll see the roughly growing city of the West Coast

Hannibal
March 27th, 2006, 12:54 AM
I resized the 2006 pic, trimmed off the verbage except ST.PETERSBURG FL and it fits perfect for my desktop background. The toolbar hides the name. Wife said "that's a pretty picture, what city is it?" I said St. Pete. She stopped and looked with a "WOW!" "We have a beautiful city!" So now she has it as her desktop on her laptop. Then I saw it on her computer at work. Makes me feel good that she sees it too. We have an attractive growing city with lots of great potential! Great layout wth interstate access, great atmosphere, close to the beaches! Can't wait to see what's to come!

Skyman
May 8th, 2006, 06:44 PM
Here some St. Pete's downtown pictures take by me from boat

http://www5.pochta.ru/hosting/Ndad9168006f909cc62dfc9dcb693ece/go/?f=%2FToronto%2FS4010151.JPG

http://www5.pochta.ru/hosting/Ndad9168006f909cc62dfc9dcb693ece/go/?f=%2FToronto%2FS4010144.JPG

TampaMike
May 8th, 2006, 10:24 PM
Thanks for the pics Skyman!

Not that much new BIG proposals in the past 3 months, what's going on?

I-275westcoastfl
May 9th, 2006, 12:18 AM
Real Estate market cooled houses are selling slower and there is plenty of them on the market we had to reduce the price for our house in st.pete and we are looking for a house and notice more reduced price for quick sale the real estate market basically slowed down. Kinda sad too i wanted more of these nice buildings in downtown st.pete maybe it would put us on the map.

FloridaFuture
May 9th, 2006, 12:33 AM
Real Estate market cooled houses are selling slower and there is plenty of them on the market we had to reduce the price for our house in st.pete and we are looking for a house and notice more reduced price for quick sale the real estate market basically slowed down. Kinda sad too i wanted more of these nice buildings in downtown st.pete maybe it would put us on the map.

St. Pete has lots of buestiful projects though. We all should be proud of what St. Pete has done to greatly improve its urbaness in this residential boom.

I-275westcoastfl
May 9th, 2006, 01:13 AM
^^ I can agree with that i remember how bad downtown was now you can safely walk down the streets at anytime really and not run into a prostitute or drug dealer and the downtown is definetly way nice overall with the projects going on now or completed we've come out with a downtown to be proud of.

jvance75
May 9th, 2006, 01:15 AM
1. the housing market in St. Petersburg has nothing to do with the overall downtown development, they are totally different markets.

2. even in the slow times(which hasnt happened) waterfront development defies the rest of the market and continues to develop no matter the situation.

Tampa on the move.
May 9th, 2006, 05:27 AM
St Pete only helps Tampa get even bigger, as Miami has grown it's neighbor Fort Lauderdale is starting to have a nice skyline..Tampa with it's 15-20 high rises plus the huge Westshore Projects and South Gandy Projects areas will look massive as you fly in.

Eventually as more people move to DT Tampa some big name companies will move in ,spawning 600'- 700' office buildings...

Dale
May 9th, 2006, 05:44 AM
Just the projects underway, and those starting shortly (Sig, Bohemian, Chihuly) should make for a tasty skyline indeed.

JGJ2010
June 3rd, 2006, 06:57 AM
^Indeed... Imo, St Pete would "lose" based on the gaps, the lesser quantity, and being much shorter... St Pete would probably only "win" based on the subjective 'quality' of the towers in the skyline... (both are going to increasingly suffer from the "tabletop effect", which is something that I despise)

Think of it this way... If everything proposed in both cities magically gets built, St Pete would be nice, but Tampa would have like 9 buildings taller than the tallest building in DT St Pete, would have just as many in the 300-400ft range (where much of St Pete's growth is), and would still have several more buildings than St Pete under 300ft.

I think St Pete will look nicer because you will have pretty much all NEW & diverse building designs plus the fact you get to look at it from the bay. Like I said earlier, it reminds me of one of the Miami clusters, forget which one, Biscayne Bay maybe??

Jasonhouse
June 3rd, 2006, 08:16 PM
^Uhh, DT Tampa is surrounded by water on 3 sides.

And still, there's no way that a handful of scattered highrises in the 200-400' range is going to be more impressive than 20+ buildings ranging from 300-600ft, with most in a rather dense cluster.