last night the 85m/26st 161 Clarence Street Apartment tower was officially approved. The planner indicates the owners want to start connstruction this year! yet another res tower for Sydney!

heres a pic of model. Its quite a good looker this one. lots of setbacks and dif use of materials. heritage facade kept with design also.
http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2002/11/169663.jpg

Interesting!

Cul, what tis the location? For example, where is it in regards to the old NRMA building on Clarence St???

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next door! its the one just right of pic. i was there at luch and a sign is already up saying "exciting new apartment tower coming soon".

Cool Bananas :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

What is the heritage building under protection. My guess, its one of those tall federation era office/warehouse buildings that dominate that area of the CBD ..........

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yeah its 2 bldgs along kent st elevation -296-302 kent st. about 6 storeys high. the Clarence st entrance has a 5 storey 0;s block which wont be missed!

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yeah its 2 bldgs along kent st elevation -296-302 kent st. about 6 storeys high. the Clarence st entrance has a 5 storey 0;s block which wont be missed!</td></tr>
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0;s

Is that 1900s? Or this decade?

Or perhaps there is a missing numeral.

Seriously: what kind of building is it that will go?

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yeah its 2 bldgs along kent st elevation -296-302 kent st. about 6 storeys high. the Clarence st entrance has a 5 storey 0;s block which wont be missed!</td></tr>


0;s

Is that 1900s? Or this decade?

Or perhaps there is a missing numeral.

Seriously: what kind of building is it that will go?

..about my messed up attempts to quote.
Fixed now

Is there any retail or comemercial space as part of the development?

And here's a picture of the model from another angle. I should of had the flash off when I took this one.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid44/p49081ad052b6ecb4395fa013c86d2aa6/fcdb5f49.jpg

Yippee yet another construction to add to the collection. Not a bad little tacker. What's that red building in the right pf the pic?

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The bottom floors will have retail.
the clarence st bldg that will be demolished is from 1970's.
the red bldg in pic is the newly completed REX HOUSE.

took this pic today. There already advertising the new tower!

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/04/187135.jpg

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The bottom floors will have retail.
the clarence st bldg that will be demolished is from 1970's.
the red bldg in pic is the newly completed REX HOUSE.

took this pic today. There already advertising the new tower!

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Wow! Multiplex Living are building it! Good stuff! :)

They've got so many top notch developments like Proximity at Wolli Creek and Monument (former Oxford Koala Hotel) on Oxford St! Pretty certain it will all go ahead then! :D

man! another one! the action rachets up another notch! I love it! And also pleased to see Multiplex are doing it.

Can't help but notice how squeezed in this project is. Really running low on viable space this end of town. Good to see them use every last square cm. And I won't miss that $2 shop.

hk

PS Culwulla thanks for this info. Unbelievable how many are going at once now. Really exciting time for building fans!!

heres the thread tony! it was back a few pages.lol but this is one of a dozen tall aprtment towers which will start up very soon!

wow another residential, good design too.

The official DA was lodged today! so the 106 unit tower will commence asap! the DA inlcuded an "amendment 96" which is a slight change to overall design, sometimes requires a model change. the demolishment of existing bldgs should start soon.
The plans show the basement will be 10 levels/23m deep!! so should be impressive as far as holes go!

great news

scary deep space !
And very glad street level wont change much
thats very import to me :)

Originally posted by CULWULLA
The official DA was lodged today! so the 106 unit tower will commence asap! the DA inlcuded an "amendment 96" which is a slight change to overall design, sometimes requires a model change. the demolishment of existing bldgs should start soon.
The plans show the basement will be 10 levels/23m deep!! so should be impressive as far as holes go!

great news

No commercial space in this tower???

@#$%

Originally posted by Fabian
No commercial space in this tower???

@#$%
we dont need anymore office space atm!!
lets just wait for John Boyd tower!

Originally posted by CULWULLA
we dont need anymore office space atm!!
lets just wait for John Boyd tower!

We need more office space if we want to become a major global centre for business.

Originally posted by Fabian
We need more office space if we want to become a major global centre for business.

You can't just build office space because you want more office space! Well...I guess you actually can, but if there is no market demand then it is just a waste of time and money, and will just push the vacancy rate higher!

Besides, we've got heaps of office space under construction at the moment! You couldn't get much of an office building on that little site, so apartments are far more practical for development on this specfic lot.

We need more office space if we want to become a major global centre for business


Even if a fraction of this apartment tower had office space, I can't see it making a difference in this city being a major global centre for business. There just isn't enough demand for it now is there?

finn, bulwarra! exactly! with the BIG 4 currently UC, this will bring some
KENS-77,000
Latitude-76,000
BT-55,000
masonic-23,000
total-231,000sqm coming online in 2005!
The 161 Clarence st is a small but nifty little apartment block. no need to put office in this baby!lol

Originally posted by Bulwara
Even if a fraction of this apartment tower had office space, I can't see it making a difference in this city being a major global centre for business. There just isn't enough demand for it now is there?

There is resonable demand for office at the moment. There is even a shortage in some areas.

The problem for CBD office space in the future is that companies are placing increasingly less importance in being located in the CBD and paying the high rents that come with this. Instead, they are opting for cheap-ass business estates in Western Sydney. Everytime I drive past one of these business parks I see a 50 storey office tower that WASN'T BUILT, and it's happening more and more. Take the 100,000sq.m. Woolies HQ, that would've made a fine CBD tower.

The answer may be to do away with planning restrictions (chiefly height limits and FSR restrictions) which have the effect of jacking up CBD rents.

You need to think about how a business decides where to locate its office. As we know office space is rented/purchased per square metre. At the prestige end of the Sydney CBD, ie anywhere with a water view, rents are obviously going to much higher as measured per square metre. Now lets say that on average (hypothetically), a worker takes 2-3 square metres to be housed in a typical office.

It is only worthwhile for a business to locate in a particular office if the employees can produce a greater revenue or add more value to the business than it costs to house them.

So if you are thinking about a company like woolworths, it is much more likely they will choose office space in the western suburbs because the revenue generated per worker is much lower. Compare that to say a big city law firm whose partners charge out $450 an hour. Obviously the revenue those employees generate can justify an expensive city office.

Have a look around Circular Quay - what do you see? Law firms, banks, financial institutions....all high revenue earners.

The official name of this development will be ATRIA and Multiplex intends to start construction in 2004.

Originally posted by finn
The official name of this development will be ATRIA and Multiplex intends to start construction in 2004.
atria? what an unsual name. thanks finn!

Originally posted by CULWULLA
atria? what an unsual name. thanks finn!

Atria is the plural of atrium...so maybe they have alot of light wells and voids in the design? :?

Originally posted by finn
The official name of this development will be ATRIA and Multiplex intends to start construction in 2004.

Didn't Delta win 9 of those ?

Originally posted by finn
Atria is the plural of atrium...so maybe they have alot of light wells and voids in the design? :?
thats one thing it has! The floor plan is H design to allow sun to filter down through bldg!
:)
lol at spaz!!

The display centre is now open at 35 Clarence St for anyone whom is interested in gaining further details.

Also the SMH had a nice rendering of it's atrium which will be landscaped and have plants and trees growing within it.

Construction is set to commence in April! well April is here! lets get it on guys!

heres pic of signage, shows
nice atrium rising full height of tower!

http://img52.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/atria.jpg

(testuser aka brizer: don't ask.)
Is there an image of the whole building? I've seen a couple of pics but always of an atrium.

nah just the atrium. i can post a model pic if you want. i can remove model and show you the structural design, this might give a better idea of its shape!
ill post model pix tommorrow! ;-)

model pix!
view from north/west. as you can see the void/atrium or i like to call it "lightwell" rises full north face.

this really will be one of Sydneys' great midrise apartment towers.

Thank you, Cul. That's a lot clearer. Actually, it looks like being a quite impressive building in terms of design, but I don't hold out much hope for the survival of the plants in the atrium unless they are replaced every month or so.

Called into the sales office last Friday and I was told....

* the project is starting in about 1 month
* It will take just over 1 1/2 years to complete i.e. anticipated completion is December '05
* Out of the 106 apartments, 30 have already been pre-commited/sold
* 25 floors including ground floor retail
* the old facades @ 296 & 298 Kent St will be retained and incorporated into the project
*The bland non-discript 4 level building @ 161 Clarence St will be demolished

A website is being created via Multiplex Living.

great muse! sounds like Multiplex is keeping a tight schedule.wow completion 05?? excelent. then again its no Eureka just another 20storey+ apartments in the city. But im really looking forward to this one.
cheers

A very tight schedule indeed although it is stated on the fact sheet I have "anticipated completion".

The Clarence St and Kent St buildings already look vacated hence the display suite being located at 35 Clarence (it's huge too!).

but...

Firstly the obligatory safety and advertising hoardings to be erected. Then demoltion work with careful retaining of the Kent St facades, then the digging, then will archaeological consultants be called in (that can take up to 3 months but IMO not a problem)?

Then the footings, then the first concrete pours, then the ever-changing configurations of the floor plates as the tower rises. The site streches a whole block too, visually seen in your first model pic post CULWULLA.

Even the Rex on Kent St had only one change of conguration after the setback. The Rex seems to have a smaller footprint too, yet it took about 1 1/2 years to complete.

In short, I'd be pleasantly surprised if they can "knock-down" 161 Clarence in 1 1/2 years :) .

BTW The central void/atrium will be the full height and there will be a 270sq roof garden on level 10. Nice!!

Yes it loos great open desgin giving internal views ? or do the apartments all face out ?
Still great plan but some what hopeful end date

Muse kindly dropped me a brochure on ATRIA to scan. here are some pix>
as viewed from Clarence st
http://img52.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/attria.jpg

view from Kent street, but without the northern bldgs (red cross) in front of lightwell>

http://img52.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/atriaside.jpg

and view from an apartment!! wow, these will sell for a nice price!!! (pass me a cuppa lovee).

http://img52.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/atriainterior.jpg

Man, dig those high ceilings! That's a nice apartment!

In fact, I dig the whole design - the full height atrium and the use of natural light is a great concept.

Just as I suspected, one of the better designed apartment buildings, and also just as I also suspected, WAY OUT of my league. (sigh!) Just look at those views!
Look on the bright side: cleaning those windows would be hell!! (cold comfort).

Cold comfort indeed.

Thanks for scans CUL. Came out O.K..

I's certainly an interestingly shaped block with enough twists and turns. I like the idea of the full-height atrium.

The massive KENS block will shield views of it from the north-western side eg. Western Distributor bridge exit. It will be clearly visible from street level though as most of the surrounds are approx. 5 storeys.

If only a lot of apartment blocks were designed like this!

Found out yesterday:

* almost 40% of the 106 apartments have been pre-commited/sold
* new media advertising campaign beginning in about a month/1.5 months
* website still being devised but one will eventuate
* project has been held up and construction won't start for about another 2-3 months :(

its amazing how units are still constantly selling in the CBD!! good stuff

Called into the display suite yesterday. Here is what I was informed.

* It should be starting within the next 1 1/2 months - 2 months.

* At this stage the anticipated completion date will be April/May 2006.

* Out of the 106 apartments including the penthouses/sub-pentouses almost 35 have been sold.

* Marketing will begin again in approx. 3 - 3/2 weeks when the showroom moves to the now vacant 161 Clarence Street (the site of the development).

This is relavitely god news :)

went past today and looks like things will start up soon.

Passed the site the other day and still nothing :( . Spiffy sales office though on the site @ 161 Clarence.

Nothing yet on the multiplexliving site yet either. http://www.sayhey.co.uk/invboard/html/emoticons/disgust1.gif

re posted scans-

http://img53.exs.cx/img53/6297/atriaside4dr.jpg

http://img53.exs.cx/img53/4724/attria1mm.jpg

Great scans CULWULLA Http://www.sayhey.co.uk/invboard/html/emoticons/wink.gif

Spoke to the sales office today and it is now earmarked to commence construction in March '05.

Amazing design. Hope the colours and materials are true to the design (but i know they rarely are).

ditto

Still earmarked to begin in March this year, with just over 40 of the 100 apartments sold (due to reconfigs, it was 106 before and due to these reconfigs of the design, apparently these were part of the major hold up for beginning construction much earlier).

good news. cant wait for this one to start. should be a fine addition to Clarence st

class baby classy

this one went up to committee meeting tonight for a some amendments to some internal elements.(as muse mentioned earlier). Thats the reason for its slow progress. Planner said they should meet criteria and then everthing will be go go go. :bash:

one sexc building

Hrmmm, walked by and still no action. Acording to multiplex.biz, it is now supposed to start construction in April. I hope we don't have another The Common here. http://www.sayhey.co.uk/invboard/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif

CUL, your scans have disappeared yet again!! :|

http://www.multiplexliving.biz/PicUploader/BitmapDisplay.ashx?id=704

i could of told you there starting in April. they have just went back into council for a section96 for the interior refit.
the photos of renders are showing for me. weird?

Scans now showing for me. Even weirder.

Well, just that Multiplex kept telling me earlier dates for this (if you look back on the previous pages), even with the reconfigs of the interior.

Well, at least we know this beauty of a mid-riser is a definite. Very excited about this one.

...

The pics dont appear for me :(
The weirdness continues....

Work for me :P

looks like this one is going to eventuate now! 3 guesses who just bought the DA???

Meriton as you just mentioned in the Sydney Gossip thread. But it's a Multiplex Living project.

What gives? :dunno:

I love the exterior!

I love the exterior!Me too. It's truly a great design. Also the render of the atrium that that I posted above. Reminds me of the entrance and mega-atrium of Seidler's Capita Centre:

__http://www.arclife.de/sixcms/media.php/1847/capita_cen3f252fa7db2f3.jpg__http://www.arclife.de/sixcms/media.php/1847/capita_cen3f252f7fd8be7.jpg

went into showroom today
nice model
http://img130.echo.cx/img130/3498/atriamodel9ml.jpg

sweat it is that colour though?

Culwulla. Did you get any start-up info from the rep?

It is a nice model. :)

she said its just going thru some minor changes and should start soon. (what ever that means). she said there taking deposits.

LOL That's exactly what she was saying 6 months ago.

Hey Guys when is this thing going to kick off...
will be interseting :wtf:

Woo Hoo! Quality glass facade. Bring it on!

anytime soon.

Any news on East (W. Square)?

looks like this one is going to eventuate now! 3 guesses who just bought the DA???Spoke with Multiplex Living today and they still own the DA.

I was told that the project has been put on hold and that it was a financial strategic decision to halt the project for now, despite having taken many deposits for apartments.

My gut feeling is that they will dumb-down the design and try and squish more apartments in....using cheaper materials etc...for when the market picks up again, naturally.

^^ I sure hope not. :ohno: I really like the current design.

Yeah, out of all the smaller projects, this was really "up there" design-wise. Was going to be the tallest in the immediate area too, so would've made an impact.

One day.

the current DA design will stay but if meriton build it, they will use cheaper materials and might not end up looking like it should.

the current DA design will stay but if meriton build it, they will use cheaper materials and might not end up looking like it should.
Well, as partial Quote of mine from the previous page of this thread:

Spoke with Multiplex Living today and they still own the DA.

bump. i wonder if this will ever see light of day?

Not many things seem to be seeing the light of day at the moment...

All these will start construction in 2005's everywhere...

^ thats life in a big city.

This thread is really sad. Everything about it....the delays, our reponses, the no-go.....sad, sad, sad.

I do notice that a render is still alive from the Multiplex site, posted on the previous page...so maybe...

*hand on hip* Oh gee, thanks for reminding us Cul....hmppfff.

^i had to bump it or i would of been deleted.there was a years gap between last post.maybe i should of let it get deleted and start afresh when it actually does commence.

bump

bumping again... figures crossed it'll see the light of day.

lol. well resi is picking up in the CBD. maybe 08?