- edited for content. When ranting, please provide proven facts.

i left it to my lawyer in dubai ,lets wait and see what he gonna do!

, skyscraper city provides all the facts, Imre has provided numerous pictures of construction progress to date which is little.

Do not delete my posts unless you have solid evidence of what I am saying is bull shit, otherwise who ever deleted the post pm me and I'll provide you the facts again.

Minoosabet we have decided as a group not to pay again until we see construction progress at a fast rate, meaning 50 people working on site not 10 as of yesterday

any news out of this developer?

I am an investor and WILL NOT pay a single cent more until I see substantial progress. The sales operation of UKLI / UKCIG remind me of a boiler room scam, using expensive offices as a front. These guys have a history of ripping people off. There is ZERO trust

they are making some progress now but harry as you probebly are from the U.K you know about the whole UKLI scam with the farm land that the sister company sold and said it would turn into big malls and all that rubbish

08/January/2010

Marina Star, crane

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Thanks Imre, hopefully within the next 6 months they will have completed the first few floors so we can see them from ground level , its impossible to take pics on the street without going through security now

These are the FACTS as set out in our latest progress report below.




Project Progress Report
7 January 2010

Marina Star
A UK Capital Investments Group Project
B4 + G + 24 Storey Residential Tower, Dubai Marina, Dubai, UAE

With the turning of the New Year, the Marina Star project continues to progress apace on site. The bout of poor weather during December has not hindered progress of the project. The project remains on track for delivery in November 2011.

Visible in the picture above, are the numerous tanking and waterproofing installations that are now almost complete (1). The light blue material on the wall of the basement wraps downward, starting currently from basement level three, to the floor of basement four (2). An additional geotextile layer covers this (3) prior to a concrete screed being poured on top (4) thus providing a permanent protection to the membranes. Great care is taken to seal each pile head ensuring that no puncturing of the membrane occurs (see insert image next page - 5).
Where the 45º angle of the subfloor does not permit screed, fibreboard is being installed (6). The base for the second tower crane has been installed (7) to increase capacity from the recently (November) installed crane on the north east of the site (8).
The installation of the renforcing bar cages is visable across the site (9). The final pour will occur over 24 hours. This will necessitate 4 pumps and consist of over 3,500 cubic metres of concrete, and will be 5.4 metres thick at its deepest point. The blue strips (10) are water-bars that help isolate any problems in the waterproof membrane should they occur, after the concrete has been poured and cured. The access to the site has moved from the marina side to neighbouring side of the site (11) facilitating the completion of waterproofing works. Additional pits are also being created in the formation to create the pile-caps which will support the primary structural columns for the building (12).

As the permanent structure begins to take shape, it is crucial to ensure the groundwater levels remain under control until there is sufficient mass of concrete to overcome the buoyancy effects. This is particularly challenging at Marina Star as the 13m deep basement is immediately adjacent to the Marina itself. To ensure the integrity of the works, the contractor has installed a system of sacrificial groundwater pumps that will remain in place beneath the basement, but will be decommissioned when sufficient structure is built.



For any further information you may require, please contact:

customerservices@ukcapitalinvestments.com
00971 (0)4 437 1600


This report has been prepared by UKCIG Real Estate Brokers (L.L.C) on behalf of Marina Star Limited

Could you post the pictures that are in your report?

UKCIG;
How nice that you participate here. A lot of developpers could learn from that.

UKCIG;
How nice that you participate here. A lot of developpers could learn from that.


They have significantly improved the way they do business, I do appreciate there efforts , hopefully this will be truly finished by 2011.

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Please see below the image from this month's progress update.

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i guess , it's time to get this tower on track no more excuse and Rera controlled it nicely ... usually during initial work nothing appear about the ratio of progress but let us wait till early 2010 ( Feb ) then we can see a good progress in here.

very nice to see them taking the shape of ground work very quick ...


working working working

anyone have end of January pictures from this developer?

19/February/2010

Marina Star

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Waow!

not bad at all !

Thank you Imre for the pictures, we can always count on you to give updates before the developer does,

looks like a substantial bit of work has been done, Imre what do you think of progress level? maybe we can see it come up from the ground by Summer 2010?

Thanks Imre for the latest pics. I too visited the site and saw a lot of workers of Condor contracting company. I think it is doing good.

anyone else receive this joke?
I haven't given them a response yet, I want to know what others plan to do, UKCIG is on here all the time so if you have something confidential to say private message me.


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Big joke:))) i will wait and see what my lawyer says.

I do not think anyone will pay this fee right now, maybe near completion I may consider paying it but for now not a cent will be paid until construction speeds up. In the last progress report they say so much has been done but if you compare January and February you can see maybe 5% more work done.

UKCIG staff have disappeared of the forum so here is the latest report also on their website


UKCIG PRESS RELEASE FEB 21 2010,

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it gone be my view from MW instead of Nakheel Tower which will take at least 5 years from now to see light !

Is Nakheel Tower not cancelled or on hold for who knows that long, you are looking at over 5 years, Marina Star sold all its units in 2006-2007 and real construction only begun late 2009 and its not even at podium level yet.

didi anyone pay 5000 to marinastar?

no one has paid, i called the investors I knew and everyone said no way they would pay anything until 10 floors were built by September. If 10 floors are not completed by September they can forget about any payments until they issue a new payment plan and offer proper.compensation

10 floors in 6 months should be like drinking water but with the developer it took them 3 years to just get off the ground so I doubt 10 floors will be completed by September, everytime my soruces in Dubai go to the work site there is only 5-10 or so workers

These are the FACTS as set out in our latest progress update below.

Project Progress Report
21 March 2010

Marina Star
A UK Capital Investments Group Project
B4 + G + 24 Storey Residential Tower, Dubai Marina, Dubai, UAE

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As we move out of the rainy periods we have suffered over the last 6 weeks, Marina Star continues to progress as planned without any overall delay to the project completion date. We are pleased to report that the Main Contractor, Condor, have cast the first suspended slab within the basement, thus beginning cycle of floor-by-floor construction that will soon bring the structure to ground level.

The picture above [taken from the North West corner of the site looking South East-the reverse angle to previous progress reports, due to access issues] shows the site on 16 March 2010, two days after over 850 cubic metres of concrete was placed for the first suspended slab. The key features now visible are the reinforcement for the next level of walls forming the lift shafts, stair wells and water tanks (1) in the centre. Also visible are the columns beneath the tower footprint (2), the ramp to the lower level (3) and the staircase in the back corner of the car-park (see picture 2 right– point 4 [taken from south west corner looking north east].
The second of the two tower cranes has now been installed and provides the additional capacity required to place all the falsework, formwork and materials for the works within the programmed schedules (5).

To control the curing of the slab, the surface of the concrete must remain damp to prevent it drying out as the concrete gains strength. Usually this continues for up to 3 or 4 days after the concrete is poured. The most effective method for doing this is to continuously spay the surface with water and then to lay hessian over it to prevent evaporation. Over the coming days the hessian, which can be seen as a light brown fabric material, (6) will be removed from the slab.

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It can be seen in the left-foreground of the image (7) protruding elements of the structure of the diaphragm wall. This temporary structure will soon become redundant as the slabs and basement walls are built up and over the confines of this shoring system.

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Now that the full fibre-optic feed for site telecommunications have been installed by Du, the telecoms provider, we are pleased to announce that the document handling for Marina Star will now move onto the document and project management platform. This step is part of the UKCIG strategy for now to become a fundamental part of UKCIG project document handling. This does not merely mean outsourced electronic filing but the root and branch handling of all information, from instructions to subcontractors, drawing updates and changes to client instructions. As all correspondence is now handled through servers, this ensures that nothing is lost or deleted and that all members of the team are aware of any changes and moreover that no time is wasted in waiting for the issue of letters or drawings.
UKCIG is pleased to confirm that (together with Condor), it has facilitated the integration of 3-D Modelling BIM technology into the pre-construction stage of the works. BIM stands for Building Information Model. It is a relatively new technique (in this region) that allows the construction, client and consultancy team to ‘test’ the accuracy and possible errors, of the construction drawings, before that part of the building is built. It is very good for looking at conflicts between the different drawing packages (say between MEP* and architectural sets for example). The image to the right is a snap shot from the software. It shows the routing of the MEP through the building at basement level. This technique is proven to save time and money. It also allows the contractor to quickly and accurately complete the coordination of the various trades, and to produce construction drawings for use on site in good time.
The integration of both and BIM technology represents a significant investment by UKCIG and demonstrates our ongoing commitment to best practice within the regional construction industry.
As previously reported, UKCIG has issued a RERA approved payment plan to tie into the construction progress. The project progress is validated by RERA’s technical auditors and a copy of the latest report is available on the “Project” section of the RERA website. We are pleased to see that so many of our owners are now on track with their payments, but would again remind you that with the structural work progressing at pace it is paramount that apartment owners keep up with the payment stages.

For any further information you may require, please contact:

customerservices@ukcapitalinvestments.com
00971 (0)4 437 1600

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editors notes
*MEP is Mechanical, Electrical & Plant drawings.



This report has been prepared by UKCIG Real Estate Brokers (L.L.C) on behalf of Marina Star Limited

And I never thought this building would be built! I was wrong. There must be a lot of happy investors.

And I never thought this building would be built! I was wrong. There must be a lot of happy investors.

you have to be joking me? this tower is over 2 years behind schedule, most investors have loans and mortgages that they took out to pay for this, what happiness, they are already being sued by several investors in Dubai.

One of the investors just sent me this website regarding UKLI / UKCIG

http://www.ballychohan.com/

^^I just read that article and as an independant who knows a bit about the marina and JLT, I am astonished at how factually incorrect the article is. There is no point in starting a campaign against an individual or company if you are prepared to make up stories and lie yourself.

Work has started and 2 tower cranes are visible so fingers crossed.

there is truth in it in my opinion but it is mixed with anger and rage of some investors of UKLI, I cant blame them this Bally guy seems to be a crook where ever he goes, there was an Arabian business article on him as well a couple years ago when some investors from the UAE expressed concern.

you have to be joking me? this tower is over 2 years behind schedule, most investors have loans and mortgages that they took out to pay for this, what happiness, they are already being sued by several investors in Dubai.

One of the investors just sent me this website regarding UKLI / UKCIG
http://www.ballychohan.com/

But this is NORMAL in Dubai. So many investors have been cheated. So many projects will never even get started even though the investors have paid a lot of money.

But this is NORMAL in Dubai. So many investors have been cheated. So many projects will never even get started even though the investors have paid a lot of money.

Yes it is normal that's why Dubai property prices have fallen over 50% some placed even 70%, this "normal" you speak of has caused the destruction of Dubai, No one will ever invest in a property in Dubai which is not built, I have been to Europe Asia and North America and anyone you talk to they all say the bubble of Dubai has burst and that they would not invest in off plan property even if it was 80% off the price it was in 2007.

Buying property in Dubai right now is like selling your soul to the devil, so many inexperienced crooked developers and even the ones like Nakheel and Damac are in the shit too now, the law suits will keep in piling up until companies like UKCIG go under,

Yes.
I think think Europeans with money are back to investing in safe places like Spain and Berlin again.
After having tried Bulgaria, Turkey and Dubai with no laws.

dear Emre! If it possible please update of the photo the marina star

^^He's on holiday for a while.

Yes.
I think think Europeans with money are back to investing in safe places like Spain and Berlin again.
After having tried Bulgaria, Turkey and Dubai with no laws.

A neighbour went over to Spain to look at a heavily discounted luxury villa for sale. He said the development was full of "for sale" signs and the development was like a ghost town. Only the odd OAP visible in a sea of villas. Sounded like Spain has been over developed with oversupply in abundance within communities with no facilities or amenities other than sunshine. At least dubai marina has life and plenty to see and do when the weather is not too hot. Just avoid off plans:)

^^He's on holiday for a while.



A neighbour went over to Spain to look at a heavily discounted luxury villa for sale. He said the development was full of "for sale" signs and the development was like a ghost town. Only the odd OAP visible in a sea of villas. Sounded like Spain has been over developed with oversupply in abundance within communities with no facilities or amenities other than sunshine. At least dubai marina has life and plenty to see and do when the weather is not too hot. Just avoid off plans:)


their are only a handful of existing developments with "facilities and amenities" . Most developers across Dubai are after one thing and that is quick money and a solid bottom line while compromising quality. Quality in Dubai means nothing because laws are so young and for every law that comes out there is 10 loop holes so if you take 1 step forward you have to than take 10 steps back

What developers in UAE (Dubai ) do is start up one company sell units for 300 million dirham and after all costs have been subtracted they are left with 100 million in the ceo's pocket , than they close shop and start up a new company and do this all over again. Just look at companies such as Aspire, Khuyool, Al Safah ect.

^^May be I just stumbled on some of the good guys when I bought in the marina.

Outside of JBR most developments do have the facilites of gym, sauna, steam rooms and everywhere a pool. With the beach, JBR walk and the 5 star hotels on my doorstep I am not short of amenities either.

Ive heard most facilities were mediocre from investors that I know in Dubai, there are good and bad projects but more bad than good, which project did you buy into?

The 2 that look onto Marina Star. Dorrabay and The Jewels:)

Friday (day off) 02.04.2010.
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thanks for the pics pleth, it is greatly appreciated that you took time out of your day to take these pictures. were you standing outside of gates? Not much is visible and it seems not much is done?

From the Marina water I was standing on the left side. There was a generator running and one man there, probably a watch man which is normal for a day off.

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thanks for the pics again, hopefully by end of april they will reach ground level as they said they would

my god , they didnt send me any new payments plan and now they are asking for more money:( i cant believe them...

These are the FACTS as set out in our latest progress update below.

Marina Star
A UK Capital Investments Group Project
B4 + G + 24 Storey Residential Tower, Dubai Marina, Dubai, UAE


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We are pleased to note again that Marina Star continues to progress as planned. The main contractor, Condor, are now making the final preparations for casting the slab at ground level, and will be placing the concrete within the next few days.

The photograph above is taken from the first floor level of the site portacabins, looking east. The main elements in the photo (1) are the formwork and reinforcement in preparation for the ground floor slab. The lift shafts/cores are visible in the centre of the image (2) rising up above ground floor level. The stair enclosures are visible to their left (3). The water tanks are being enclosed to the left of the stairs (4). The columns within the tower footprint are visible in the foreground (5).

The site team has worked particularly hard to reach the ground level, overcoming a number of unforeseen difficulties, including a serious problem with the second tower crane, which has resulted in the boom having to be removed to allow repairs and modifications. Condor have substituted the tower crane with a mobile crane in the short-term, thus allowing work to progress unhindered.
The photograph also shows part of the team of steel fixers, who are dedicated specialists for placing and fixing the reinforcement. These are primarily supported by a number of other trades, including joiners and mechanical and electrical installation specialists, who are working on the lower levels and in the lay-down area outside the plot limits (not visible in this image). Condor now has a site presence of over 225 people on site, and this partly explains the quick advancement of the project to ground level. UKCIG commends the contractor and the project management team for this achievement.

The project has now stepped into a routine consisting of the following sequence as it now progresses into the aboveground phase.
1. Construction of vertical columns and core-walls under the tower footprint. This involves the positioning and fixing of structural reinforcement and contained MEP conduits before the installation of formwork and placing of concrete.
2. Placing of the falsework framing and timber / aluminium formwork to support and shape the next slab. This is achieved by building a supporting frame, which sits on the recently cast slab, and then constructing a decking to hold the wet concrete in place until it has cured.
3. The penultimate stage is to install the structural reinforcement and MEP containment, and to form any openings, which may be required for service risers, access points, etc.
4. The final stage is the placing of the slab concrete which, after approval from Dubai Municipality, usually takes place at a rate of up to 100 cubic metres every hour.


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The picture above is taken from above the roadside of the site looking south west.

We are pleased to note that many of our owners are now on track with their payments. Investors will have received some recent advice highlighting to them that a stage payment will become due as the structure reaches ground level. Again it is important to keep in mind that the project is in a critical phase and with the structural work progressing at pace it is paramount that payment stages are kept up with.

UKCIG has issued a RERA approved payment plan to tie into the construction progress (previously noted). The project progress is validated by RERA’s technical auditors and a copy of the latest report is available on the “Project” section of the RERA website.

For any further information you may require, please contact:

customerservices@ukcapitalinvestments.com
00971 (0)4 437 1600


This report has been prepared by UKCIG Real Estate Brokers (L.L.C) on behalf of Marina Star Limited

I am impressed.

Dear uk capital we want to know also news about Metropolis Loft and the Cavendish, still desert?

Dear uk capital we want to know also news about Metropolis Loft and the Cavendish, still desert?

nothing done except fencing at metropolis lofts , no new updates on website and the cavendish no news either, end of summer before anything even begins in my opinion, they might end up cancelling the metropolis lofts as they have something near 100 units still not sold according to insider information that I received recently, they are trying desperetly to see those units,

my guess is that is the reason for the delays in Met Lofts, If they dont sell at least 60 of those 100 or so units I doubt this project will get of the ground soon, the delays being blamed on Nakheel is typical JV south crap that every developer with delays is using.

my god , they didnt send me any new payments plan and now they are asking for more money:( i cant believe them...


how much have you paid and how much are they asking for?

24/April/2010

Marina Star

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Do you know the funny no sense answer form UK capital to one my question.

I have bought The Cavendish and Metropolis Loft.

The only project that has started is Marina Star so I asked to swap on this project.

The first answer was " it is no possibile because Marina Star is all sold out ".

I answer that it's not a problem because I can find Marina Star on secondary market.

So the second answer was: Swap The Cavendish to Marina Star is no possibile, swap Metropolis to Marina Star is possibile only if you have already units in Marina Start but you can't buy on the secondary real estate market Marina Star units and after swap on its.

So The Cavendish that most probably will never do it it's not possibile to swap ( you have to wait maybe forever ) and if you have already Metropolis Loft and Marina Star units is possibile to swap on Marina Star but if you have only Metropolis Loft units you can't but Marina Start units.

This make no sense and they never try to offers some investors solutions for this situations

Marco,

the units for Marina Star were sold years ago that is why they have started the construction for Marina Star. If you look on their website you can see they have many projects even some planned for 2010 appreantly costing billions of Dirhams but most of those projects such as the Met Lofts, wont start in my opinion at least till this summer, the Cavendish has no hope of starting any time soon.

the 2010 projects will not start in 2010, I will eat my hat if they do! 2010 projects wont start till late 2011 if they ever do

Now what is the real problem?

the problem is that most units in Met Lofts and Cavendish have not been sold... they will drag this on until more units are sold, Met lofts is in a really crappy area JV South which is a desert land, most of the cancelled projects in Dubai are situiated in JV south, there are hardly any roads and from what I can see 90% of the area is still desert.

You CAN swap from your projects to other projects in other developments not owned by UKCIG, you just have to search and talk to other developers and see what they say, every developer now offers swap because of the market decline.

Dont swap to any other property outside the Marina and Palm Jumireah , it is the only locations with a little bit of hope, the rest of the areas are a black hole.

Thank you TMZ

1) Do you know why Uk Capital doesn't want to swap fro The Cavendish and Metropolis to Marina Star

2) Do you know any developer that make real swap with good offers?

thank you

:ohno: i wish i could swap my unit in marinastar with a ready unit in marina or palm jumeirah! i will never buy a flat until i see 50% of it first.

Thank you TMZ

1) Do you know why Uk Capital doesn't want to swap fro The Cavendish and Metropolis to Marina Star

2) Do you know any developer that make real swap with good offers?

thank you

The issue is not that they do not want to swap, the problem is that all units in Marina star were sold in 2007-2008, there are no units left for purchase, the only way you can purchase a unit is if you pay up front cash to a third party seller,

UKCIG can not sell you something they do not have.

Also Cavendish and Metropolis lofts are not completly sold which means they are waiting it to sell until they start construction, anything else they tell you is a lie, there is one and one reason only for the delays in Met lofts and Cavendish and that is because hundreds of units are not sold.

You have to be in Dubai to find a property to swap too, I am not in Dubai so I can not tell you of any companies,

I have filed many complaints with Rera regarding the marina star and I plan to visit them again shortly once in Dubai to bring forth my concerns

Does anyone know how Marina Star is selling in the secondary market and at what price level?

depends what your looking for, Studio, 1 bedroom 2 bedroom etc... high floor, low floor? You have to search online on sites like Dubai Bazzar or agencies like Remax etc, prices are not that high, on average in the 800's from when I looked last time.

I know that Marina Start is all sold out, but I can buy one unit in the seconday market ( no problem to find somebody who wnat to sell its ) and after mouve money paid fro The Cavendish and Metropolis on this Marina Start unist, but Uk doesn't want to do its.

Core at Up ground level ! dear mods please change title to UNDER C ...

I know that Marina Start is all sold out, but I can buy one unit in the seconday market ( no problem to find somebody who wnat to sell its ) and after mouve money paid fro The Cavendish and Metropolis on this Marina Start unist, but Uk doesn't want to do its.

Its not just UKCIG , no developer will ever do that, there is no profit for them by doing that, the one and only way you can do that is if UKCIG is reselling units it self for a premium so at least they get 2% fee.

So this means for example I sold my unit back to UKCIG for a cheap price and than UKCIG marks up my unit and sells it so they get premium on purchase price and tranfer fee of 2% as well. Otherwise why would they do that when they will not earn a profit? they would just waste their resources for nothing. You do not have to swap with UKCIG their are other companies you can swap too but I dont know because I am not in DUbai, take a trip to dubai for 1 week and see for your self.

Does we have to wait forever??? Tow year ago Uk Capital told us " we are goint to start work in the next two weeks ", and today still desert.

Does we have to wait forever??? Tow year ago Uk Capital told us " we are goint to start work in the next two weeks ", and today still desert.

i completely understand where you are coming from.

This is not a UKCIG issue, every developer in dubai has delays from 6 months all the way to 2 years, some developments have even more than that like Palm Jebel Ali, and other JV south projects.

there is no law in dubai, you just have to sit and play the waiting game with these developers or sue or swap. From big companies like nakheel to small companies like uckig you can see there is no difference, same old bull shit they tell you everyday.

progress report on Cavendish 1 and 2 , or should I say non progress report

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http://www.ukcapitalinvestments.com/_pdf/report/cavendish_1_06_may_2010.pdf

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Hope this is on the right thread.

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thx for the pictures, maybe by end of may to mid June we will be able to see it grow over the fencing, (fingers crossed)

UKLI's founder has reopened for business in Dubai.

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The founder of a landbanking company that Guardian Money first featured three years ago, and which has left a £70m trail of debt, has reopened for business in Dubai, selling plots of land in Kent it calls Canary City to unsuspecting investors.

BBC Radio 4's Face the Facts will show how Baljinder Chohan, founder and owner of UKLI, has moved his operation from Berkeley Square in London to Dubai, and continues to sell the dream of turning tiny slices of agricultural land into sites with planning permission worth a fortune.

Chohan was UKLI's sole shareholder and director until it was forced into administration by the Financial Services Authority in April, owing investors £70m. He also made loans worth £9.4m from the company to other "legal entities" here and overseas that he controlled or owned. Administrator Deloitte says the "funds appear to have been lent on non-commercial terms with no clear benefit to UKLI".

Deloitte is now trying to find the money - some of it went to companies which are now themselves bust. Any recovery will help recompense UKLI's unsecured creditors.

Investors who have typically lost £20,000 bought small plots of farmland from UKLI which, they were told, would soon obtain planning permission for housing and soar in value. UKLI gave farmers a fraction of the price paid by investors, many based in India or the Middle East.

In March, Guardian Money revealed Chohan had been banned from UK directorships for four years for his promotion of a £1bn "sharia law compliant" fund. But Face the Facts will reveal on Sunday evening that despite a three-year FSA investigation and interim freezing order against UKLI, Chohan, 33, is still selling land in Britain, often in the green belt, to unsuspecting investors overseas.

Chohan is now running UKLI International from offices in Dubai, where the FSA has no jurisdiction, selling unsuspecting Middle East investors plots in Canary City which, despite its grandiose name, is a field bordering the M25 in Bromley. UKLI International claims this has "excellent potential for obtaining re-zoning for development". But its chances of gaining planning permission are minimal.

Bromley councillor Gordon Jackson says: "It is green belt land, highly unlikely ever to be a city. It is a beautiful open field in the countryside."

Those caught up in the collapse of UKLI find it hard to believe Chohan is still selling farmland worth around £5,000 an acre to investors for £10,000 per 0.1 acre plot with promises of imminent planning permission, in the same way that he did in the UK.

Shereen Hussain paid £18,000 for a quarter-acre plot in a field in Billericay, Essex. "I can't believe they are continuing the same business model but from abroad," she says. "I sadly encouraged friends of mine to follow my investment example. Now I would advise everyone to steer well clear."

Hussain will be lucky to get as much as 5p in the pound - possibly as little as 2p. The lower figure will turn her £18,000 into just £360. She can't even pitch a tent on her land.

Chohan has had a colourful career. Last November, a court heard how he lied about a Brunel University degree, an MBA from Henley Management College and a job as a communications director with British Airways.

In a statement, Chohan's lawyers said he is co-operating in the recovery of the £9.4m loans.

· Face the Facts is on BBC Radio 4 on Sunday, Aug 3, at 9pm


http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2008/aug/02/property.scamsandfraud

These are the FACTS as set out in our latest progress update below.

Marina Star
A UK Capital Investments Group Project
B4 + G + 24 Storey Residential Tower, Dubai Marina, Dubai, UAE

We are pleased to note again that Marina Star continues to progress as planned. Following completion of the slabs at ground floor level, the main contractor, Condor, is now making the final preparations for casting the first post-tensioned slab(1), which will form the floor of the lower apartments, the upper floor of the duplex townhouse units and the pool-deck on the podium.

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The picture above is taken from the north west of the site looking south east. Clear progress of the project ‘out-of-the-ground’ is now visible. To accommodate the increase in building height, one of the tower cranes has now had additional sections of supporting structure inserted to provide the additional height (2). This will now become a more regular event as the construction progresses.

The lowest basement level (B4) has now been mostly cleared of the framework that supported the B3 slab concrete whilst it was curing. The availability of this space for site labour to rest is well timed, and will allow Condor to manage the summer working restrictions imposed by the UAE Ministry of Labour. Beginning this year, these have been extended one month from the previous two-month period of previous years to a total of 12 weeks. As such, from 15 June 2010 to 15 Sept 2010, it will no longer be permissible for people to work in the open from 12.30pm to 3.00pm.

The latest invoices were issued in May, which brings payments to the 50% mark based upon the RERA approved payment plan. Again it is important to keep in mind that the project is in a critical phase and with the structural work progressing at pace it is paramount that payment stages are kept up with.

For any further information you may require, please contact:

customerservices@ukcapitalinvestments.com
00971 (0)4 437 1600


This report has been prepared by UKCIG Real Estate Brokers (L.L.C) on behalf of Marina Star Limited

^^Those main slabs don't look complete to me. There is still exposed rebar flying out from the construction joints of the partial slabs. Looks like basement walls and remainder of basement slabs are still to be completed before you are where you say you are.:)

and what about Metropolis Loft? Still desert? Have we investor wait forever?

who are the consultant and the main contractor here in this project??

for both Marina Star and Metropolis loft project the develoepr is Uk capital Investment Group.

I dont know about consultant but main contract is condor Group

has anyone been able to identify construction first hand? anyone visited dubai yet?

still at the first stages of construction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this project was innetiated in 2006

Minosabt this is KILOWAT
how r u ? I warned u about this investment and u didnt believe me
I know the owners of the project and they r crooks nothing more nothing less

their is a construction based payment plan, you have nothing to worry about..., iam an investor as well, purchased back in 2007, i will pursue for compensation when this project is finished, even if we have to go to court.

Got in contact with a buddy of mine in Dubai
June 20th 2010, thanks to Mike for taking the time to take the pictures for us.

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thank you so much for the update Imre


We can see nothing has been done from when my friend took the pictures and when Imre took the pictures, I got an e-mail from them saying they will cast 1 floor per week but they have cast nothing

if anyone is interested in the direct number of the project manager in this project it is

DAVID JAMES RILEY+97144371675

16/July/2010

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honestly i don't see any difference from the pictures from mike taken June 20th to Imres latest pics, they say they will build 1 floor a week, this does not look like 1 floor per week since June 20th.

hi,

I have not been on here for a while, I am just wondering if any one knows whats going on with the investor updates.... the last one was sent on June 6th, now its July 20th, almost two months and we investors have received no new updates.

I was told in June that UKCIG would build 1 floor per week.... it does not look like it, in the pictures that Imre and others have posted.

Anyone know if construction is actually going ahead, or are they doing nothing

arash89... the updates are late as always, they dont answer or return phone calls anymore either, I rely on other peoples posts sure as Imres and mikes to get an accurate view of what is going on .

pm me if u hear anything new

Hello,
I'm new to this forum, I also have invested in the Star Marina and have paid 45% so far for my unit, they keep calling me for an additional 5% to make it an even 50% down, they are saying I don't have to pay anything else until the 7th floor is completely done, are they going to finish this building after 2 years of delay ? does anyone know if this company has a good reputation? or they are just simply trying to get as much money from us and run.
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

i think they are doing their best and if they really wanted to run away,they could do it months ago,like the others in dubai.if we dont pay,how can they finish the building???i told them i will pay the rest of money if they reach to second floor.
so will see.

28/July/ 2010

Nice view

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These are the FACTS as set out in our latest progress update below.

Marina Star Progress Report
A UK Capital Investments Group Project
B4 + G + 24 Storey Residential Tower, Dubai Marina, Dubai, UAE


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UK Capital Investments Group is pleased to report that progress on the Marina Star project continues unabated. The focus for construction during the summer months has been to work on the lower areas around the main tower to B1 and B2. Works are in progress to complete the basement slabs, thus connecting them with the constantly rising perimeter wall. Works are also progressing to the stair enclosures and remaining structural elements at and below ground level. The focus of the works has recently been at the lower levels in order to decrease differential progress between the tower element of the project and the combined basement and podium structures. Once the works are complete at the lower levels the tower will progress vertically on a fortnightly timetable.

The photograph above shows the progression of work to the perimeter wall and basement slabs, taken on 22 July 2010 at 9.46AM. In the foreground, mid left, area (1) the visible holes, are the remains of the anchor points that are now being removed and made good. They are part of a temporary enabling works structure (diaphragm wall [2]) that is being overlaid by the permanent perimeter wall of what will be the car park (3). The anchor holes are being shuttered off (4) and filled with concrete. This wall is then covered with a geotextile (not visible in this picture but residing between the waterproof membrane and the diaphragm wall). In front of this is a waterproof membrane (5) and in turn, in front of this is the reinforcement bar (6) and finally this structure is shuttered and the concrete is poured. At the ground level the wall can just been seen rising above the slab (7).

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The picture above is taken from the scaffolding of the signboard in the southern corner of the site, looking north. The picture was taken at some time around midday on 22 July 2010. The slab at the lower centre of the picture is that of the first floor (1). The ground floor slab is barely visible to the left of it (2). This slab is being extended to close the gap of the last basement floor (not visible but on the roadside of the site beneath the bottom of this picture (3)). This will continue all the way around the perimeter of the coming weeks. When this is complete the podium works can then be finalised. In the centre of the picture, the perimeter of the tower is now clearly visible (4). The columns at this level and the core structure are almost complete (5). Above this, the shuttering and rebar for the next floor are visible (6). As the structure starts to rise above the ground the need for two cranes has diminished and so the second crane has recently been disassembled, leaving the main tower crane to the right of the picture (7).

Overall the Marina Star project is progressing well, allowing for minor fluctuations in working rates given the conditions of working for this time of year. The focus for this month has been completion of below ground works. This will continue during the Ramadan period. In the autumn, works will begin in earnest on the podium levels and the tower itself will continue to progress upward.
It cannot be emphasised strongly enough that stage payments must be kept up to date by investors otherwise delays to the delivery of the project could ensue.
As an addendum to this report the “Screampoint!” report for Marina Star has been attached in its entirety. The report has been carried out by a third party (Screampoint, Property Observer) on behalf of RERA (Real Estate Regulatory Agency). It uses different milestones and assessments of progress to UKCIG but it does give investors an independent scrutiny of the project to date. This report is only available as a summary on the RERA web site (and has not appeared there yet either) but not as it is here, in full.

For any further information you may require, please contact:
customerservices@ukcapitalinvestments.com
00971 (0)4 437 1600

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ukcig, do you think we are idiots, you said first or should i say after many diffrent dates that 50% podium would be completed in Sept 2010, now in your new report you moved this to Oct 2010, by Oct your going to move it to November and so on and the cartwheel goes round and round.

post the complete report you fools

these douchebags think we are stupid.


I HAVE UPLOADED THE PROGRESS REPORTS OF APRIL, JUNE AND AUGUST 2010 BELOW

YOU CAN SEE THAT IN APRIL 30% PODIUM WAS SCHEDULED TO BE FINISHED IN JUNE 2010, AND IN THE JUNE PROGRESS REPORT IT SAID JULY 2010 30% PODIUM FINISH AND NOW IN THE AUGUST 2010 PROGRESS REPORT IT SAYS OCT 2010 30% PODIUM FINISH

SO UKCIG PLEASE TELL ME HOW YOU PLAN TO HAND OVER IN NOV 2011

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FURTHERMORE , ALL INVESTORS NOTE THAT THE PICTURES THAT THE DEVELOPER SENT YOU WAS SENT USING A WIDE LENS CAMERA, MAKING THINGS SEEM TWICE AS BIG AS IT IS, DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING UNTIL YOU SEE THINGS WITH YOUR OWN EYES. ONLY IF SOMEONE LIKE IMRE POSTS THE PICS. THE PICTURES THEY SEND YOU ARE BULL SHIT

Those reports are in an identical format to those of Select Group, developers of Bay Central and others. Coincidence?

I have always had a suspicion that Select are linked to this developer in some way. 2 other buildings in Dubai marina linked to Select Group are mentioned in a £90M tax fraud by HMRC.

Those reports are in an identical format to those of Select Group, developers of Bay Central and others. Coincidence?

I have always had a suspicion that Select are linked to this developer in some way. 2 other buildings in Dubai marina linked to Select Group are mentioned in a £90M tax fraud by HMRC.

TB - You are overstepping the mark here even by your standards. You know very well that Select Group are not involved in that fraud case; - however your post has been - not very subtly worded - to infer they might be! Shame on you; you just lose credibility when you write this kind of garbage. Clean your act up!

TB - You are overstepping the mark here even by your standards. You know very well that Select Group are not involved in that fraud case; - however your post has been - not very subtly worded - to infer they might be! Shame on you; you just lose credibility when you write this kind of garbage. Clean your act up!



In dubai everything goes hand in hand,

A) you are an idiot or blind or asleep if you believe otherwise
B) you are one of the sheiks kids and are the ONLY person protected from fraud


These cowboys think we are mules or what? ukcig is full of uneducated clowns like every other developer in Dubai, including EMARR, sheikh mo and Nakheel.

TB - You are overstepping the mark here even by your standards. You know very well that Select Group are not involved in that fraud case; - however your post has been - not very subtly worded - to infer they might be! Shame on you; you just lose credibility when you write this kind of garbage. Clean your act up!

Select group are not involved in the tax fraud, I never said they were but the buildings they have bought are, therefore my use of the word "linked" is deliberate.

They have rebuilt the sign board for this tower but if you look back to the start you will see the sales agent was "Select Real Estate" on the scheme board. May be an entirely unrelated company however the format of the updates is as good as identical to Select Group/Properties and that immediately stood out to me. The method of constructing the tower footprint and leaving the basement behind is also an identical tactic employed at BC. BC West is topped out with no basement constructed but they will call in the "topped out payment soon" on a partially complete structure. Unless Rera are now wise to this tactic.

There is a post which has appeared in the last few days suggesting that Select Group have bought more "near completed" buildings in Dubai Sports City. ??? Is it true?:dunno:

Select have already issued a statement confirming they are not associated with the tax criminals and I expect that they are not linked to UKCIG so there is nothing to see here, move along!.;)

It's quite amazing when you do some digging to who owns what in Dubai. You will be quite surprised also to find out which developer has major interests in which estate agent :nuts:

the select group you are talking about as a developer and select real estate are two entirely different companies as far as I know, but either ways they are all crooks.


Select Real Estate: http://www.selectuae.com/main.php

Select Developer: http://www.selectproperty.com/invest/dubai/

^^Thanks for clarifying.

user trying to con us out of money , GTFO


edit: thanks for removing the post 234sale

^^ Action taken, :cheers:

Hi everyone,

my family and I invested in 3 units in this project, my father , sister and me all bought what we thought would be our vacation homes here, in total we spent over 3 million dirhams in this project and have not see any constructive construction activity going on, all we have heard is lies lies and more lies... I have spent that last 2 days going over 30 pages of this thread before deciding to join and express my anger with this crooked company as well. we are extremly fed up and have not heard anything from this developer for over a month, their progress reports are crap as always and pretty much nothing had been done since our purchase time in spring of 2007.... does anyone have any videos or pictures of construction as of today???

Please send to me the your email and I will send to you the photo (2 weeks old).
My email is andreykzrs@gmail.com

Hi Everyone

We are new to the forum and like Pamela we have also had some concerns having bought a unit on Dubai Marina Star.

We have just returned from our holiday in Dubai and took the opportunity to meet up with the developers while we were there. I have to say we felt we had made more progress in an hour of discussion than we had in just receiving the progress reports in the last few months.

Again, like Pamela, we took the opportunity to read some of the posts before responding and hope some of the info we share may help.

What we'd like to set out from the start, however, is that we do share everyone's frustrations, having signed up around 2006. We were very forthright with the developers with the lack of communication when they took over and we also mentioned this again when we met recently.

We were told that the initial lack of communication was due to the fact that the database of client information at handover stage was less than acceptable and the current developers had to piece together which of us had bought each particular unit, coupled with contact details. Furthermore, we were told that some of the original designs, etc had not been signed off/approved through the appropriate channels and therefore they had to revisit this to enable construction to commence. UKCIG also told us that they had to refine some of the plans for the apartments having had to include an additional elevator shaft (as well as I think some regulations enforced after some of the accidents in Dubai). This has meant slight adjustments to some of the apartments. In our case it has meant we have lost very slight carpet space and gained some balcony space (!?!).

Our biggest concern has always been about protecting the money we've paid so far. In our case we've paid about 75%. We have been reassured though given the tight restrictions placed on developers via Escrow and RERA. UKCIG will have to deliver certain milestones outlined by RERA before any funds will be released. RERA have tightened up significantly and as such it causes a few headaches for the developers. Delays can also be incurred when buyers default on their payments. In a nutshell if they don't receive payments on time it impacts upon the build as well. That said we have a degree of empathy for clients who, like ourselves, had an expectation that we'd be sat in the apartment right now with our free plasma (which UKCIG state they've never heard of and will not be included upon completion - this is something we will take up separately with them).

We have had our fair share of headaches, including being told we didn't actually own the unit we'd bought, but thankfully that was resolved after a couple of emails and telephone calls.

During our meeting UKCIG were able to show us very recent images which will be circulated to everyone in the next newsletter. They explained that although Aug/Sept if often a right off as a result of Ramadan workers have still been on the site. Images haven't changed significantly probably to some degree because they've been working below ground, pouring concrete and doing as much as they can during the summer months. We were told that this particular task was scheduled in the latter months but they've rejigged it to avoid further delays on the deadline completion date. (We remain optimistic).

We drove past the site which was the first time we'd seen it, so we were relieved firstly that it existed and secondly that progress can actually be seen.

It is suggested that there has been planning permission placed for the building next to the Marina Star which may be a mosque as the marina doesn't currently have one.

We're certainly not naive and know the proof of the pudding is in the eating, but having spoken to friends who live in Dubai, we still remain fortunate that the build is actually going ahead and is in a premium location.

Now that we've found the forum, we'll certainly be keeping a watchful eye on progress/issues as they arise.

Warm Wishes:wink2:

I bought a unit as a park view unit and they can not fool people like this .first the largest park in marina after change to ........mosque.
it must be park view as they sold it to me. As Dr . musab al Qasimi said ,its marina and park views ,so they can not change it.

кто нибудь пишет по-русски?

да. можем писать

да. можем писать

привет Андрей мы с тобой списывались на днях. я имел ввиду, может быть есть кто-то ещё кроме нас двоих, желательно кого-нибудь , кто проживает в дубаях ( чтобы быть всегда в курсе ) . я то сам инглиш плохо знаю, перевожу компьютером, а так мне бы кто-нибудь накалякал на родном мне языке. ну если никого не будет ( хотя Адиль, через которого я покупал этот геморой ( фирма селект) сказал , что русских в марине почти половина), тогда я буду тебя слёзно просить правильно переводить
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lost our money

or from my eyes bad or I have already seen 3 months ago

So they of computer translation, I do it again meant that for the 3 months nothing has been done and not rebuilt, no floor

Thet fast tracked the building footprint to ground level, now they are back in the hole doing the basement walls and completing the floors over the full basement.

It would have been easier to do it right the first time instead of using stop ends and part ordering steel rebar. Guess they tried to trick rera into approving the next payment call and got found out.

little to work has been done, the new progress report tells us investors nothing. The next progress accomplishment is at 30% podium completion at the end of October, I forecast that their October 30% completion will be at least late 2 months so December is 30% podium completion,
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anyone take pictures of this project, UKCIG seems to be in the shit right now, not answering my phone calls, I live in the U.K now so I cant go to project site and see for my self.

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IT STILL SAYS OCTOBER 30% PODIUM FINISH, ANYONE THINK THEY CAN DO THIS IN 28 DAYS?

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what a joke lol...well, i think it's possible but not with average speed ;)

only 10 workers of Arabtec company and this one will topped out by 1 year :D

only 10 workers of Arabtec company and this one will topped out by 1 year :D


what does arabtec have to do with UKIG?? No one ever mentioned Arabtec was working for UKCIG... are you sure you have the right information?

What he means is Arabtec is one of the fastest contractors in the region. 10 of Arabtec's men could finish this project faster than what is there at the moment. Hope that clears things up:okay:

What he means is Arabtec is one of the fastest contractors in the region. 10 of Arabtec's men could finish this project faster than what is there at the moment. Hope that clears things up:okay:

ohhhhh:bash: is see, thanks for clearing that up, Is arabtec good in terms of interior/exterior finishing and durability or are they just like donkeys that carry a heavy load but dont understand anything?

Maybe this will answer your question, another Arabtec site in the marina;

Ocean Heights, http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=64559585#post64559585

Arabtec are also building Silverene Twin towers and Infinity tower in the marina and all are very impressive. One of the companies who actually strive to build a reputation.

& i fully agree :)

the interior of the building you posted looks very nicely done, very arab with the golden colours but it looks much much better than some of the other marina crap ive seen

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Hello
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CONTACT lera-0106@mail.ru

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Hello
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HI Baiterek!

Below your photos.
BR,

But who lives next to this building? Bizzybonita?
Surely somebody can check if there are workers, activity or any work going on?

i rented out ! but i have some friends around . surely if any progress take place we'll update our STAR :)

WOULD YOU STILL WITH NASSER SQUARE MADE PICTURES FOR COMPARISON. Look over the fence and SURE-JOB IS. OF COURSE, ACCORDING TO THE AGREEMENT WE ALL HAVE ALREADY live in their apartment, but if it so happened and nothing can do about it, we have to thank God that at least SO to work and not hosed UKCIG DIRT how much in vain. LOOK HOW MANY IN DUBAI frozen objects and deceived investors. And pay money over everything DURING AND NOT procrastinate to the last. STILL PAY ALL UNLESS THEY WANT TO LOSE EVERYTHING. We had to buy their own APARTMENTS 5-7 years ago, then it would BEEN WITHOUT PROBLEMS. (Sorry for a computer translation)

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17/Oct/2010

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What news? Does someone have new photos?

dear Uk Capital Investments Group, why doesn't you answers to my emails? and what about your project Metropolis Loft? do you remeber this project?

why is the situation so bad? why does the governament make nothing?

You are right ryan, but with this system also the Dubai Governament and Dubai country are losting everthing, who can invest in Dubai if the system is like this? Also the Dubai Government with all its money need investors from all the world.

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PLE--E-EASE! Who lives in Dubai TAKE PICTURES WITH THE OBJECT MARINA STAR (just not from the street, And Go behind the fence). Thanks in advance

anything new from this one? developer is very unresponsive

Who lives in Dubai, is it not possible CALL or go to firms-developers AND TELL ALL INFORMATION?

HI i new here, english not so good, i travel to dubai to see work but no work, no done anything this year, very slow constructing

no news ....

so were is that iranian girl ,she used to call me 100 times 6 month ago and asking for paying more money to marinastar . im going to dubai in 4 weeks and will find that girl . now they even dont answer us anymore.

so were is that iranian girl ,she used to call me 100 times 6 month ago and asking for paying more money to marinastar . im going to dubai in 4 weeks and will find that girl . now they even dont answer us anymore.

lool i kno who u mean, she is very sneaky, she is like a sucupuss u be careful, very sneaky girl she is

Не work ты существуешь been дарите

November 14 2010
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***IMPORTANT THINGS FOR ALL INVESTORS TO NOTE***
The construction dates they have set in this report are garbage.

These are the real construction dates they have set in their redone construction plan listed below. please please please read it so you know what is going on

SO THIS MEANS THAT WITH THIS NEW PROGRESS REPORT THEY HAVE CHANGED THEIR CONSTURCTION PLAN 3 TIMES NOW. FIRST TIME IS THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT YOU SIGNED, SECOND TIME IS THE NEW CONSTRUCTION PLAN AND NOW THIS NEW CONSTRUCTION PLAN WITH DELAYS AGAIN.

30% FRAME: JUNE 2010 DELAYED UNTIL DECEMBER 2010: THIS IS A 6 MONTH DELAY

50% FRAME: SEPTEMBER 2010 DELAYED UNTIL FEBRUARY 2010: THIS IS A 5 MONTH DELAY

100% FRAME: JANUARY 2011 DELAYED UNTIL APRIL 2011: THIS IS A 3 MONTH DELAY

POWER ON: JUNE 2011 DELAYED UNTIL JULY 2011: THIS IS A 1 MONTH DELAY

INITIAL SNAGGING: JULY 2011 DELAYED UNTIL AUGUST 2011: THIS IS A 1 MONTH DELAY

FACADE COMPLETE: AUGUST 2011 DELAYED UNTIL SEPTEMBER 2011: THIS IS A 1 MONTH DELAY

FINAL MEP INSTALLATION: SEPTEMBER 2011 DELAYED UNTIL OCTOBER 2011: THIS IS A 1 MONTH DELAY

CIVIL DEFENSE FINAL INSPECTION: OCTOBER 2011 DELAYED UNTIL NOVEMBER 2011:THIS IS A 1 MONTH DELAY

FINAL SNAGGING: OCTOBER 2011 DELAYED UNTIL NOVEMBER 2011: THIS IS A 1 MONTH DELAY

FINAL CERTIFICATE: NOVEMBER 2011 DELAYED UNTIL DECEMBER 2011: THIS THIS A 1 MONTH DELAY

CUSTOMER ORIENTATION: OCTOBER 2011 DELAYED UNTIL NOVEMBER 2011: THIS IS A 1 MONTH DELAY

CUSTOMER HANDOVER: NOVEMBER 2011 DELAYED UNTIL DECEMBER 2011: THIS IS A 1 MONTH DELAY

DEFECT LIABILITY PERIOD EXPIRES: NOVEMBER 2012 DELAYED UNTIL DECEMBER 2011: THIS IS A 1 MONTH DELAY


THIS MEANS THAT UNDER THIS NEW CONSTRUCTION PLAN THEY ARE NOW 24 MONTHS LATE ON TOP OF THE FACT THAT THE BUILDING IS SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED NOW UNDER THE ORIGINAL SIGNED CONTRACT.

Great to see it move forward.

The revised construction program is an insult to anyones intelligence. All they are doing is "compressing" the project in an effort to missrepresent the final completion. Honestly, topped out and power on in 8 months with nothing above ground level completed yet. The progress over the past 8 months has been laughable and yet you are expected to believe they will work miracles over the next 8 months.

When developers insist on lies and deceit like this clear example, how can you trust them to even finish the project?

The revised construction program is an insult to anyones intelligence. All they are doing is "compressing" the project in an effort to missrepresent the final completion. Honestly, topped out and power on in 8 months with nothing above ground level completed yet. The progress over the past 8 months has been laughable and yet you are expected to believe they will work miracles over the next 8 months.

When developers insist on lies and deceit like this clear example, how can you trust them to even finish the project?

Christ! I've seen some dodgy milestones and experienced them first hand but this one is quite spectacular in all aspects. More shameful developer behaviour:ohno:

They think people are idiots, There are minimum 2.5 years late on delivering this project, by the time it is finished and that is IF it is ever finished the project would have been 3.5-4 years delayed from original contract date.

You can not build this towers frame in 8 months, its not possible at all!




UKCIG you can not trick investors, we might be outside of Dubai but we have contacts in Dubai that offer real progress updates not your joke of 1 floor built in 6 months and you saying you did more. Your reputation in Dubai is below ZERO

Hi, I am new in thit forum but also have the same problems as all you. I've been in Dubai/Marina Star 9.12.2010 and make a few pics, not sure now how I can post them to the forum. Pls somebody explain to me.
Also I stay next door in Lotus Hotel so can watch all what's go on there. Not much really. As I've been told they work on basement now, maybe, but not lots of people there. And nobody do anything on the ground.

Good choice on staying at the lotus to see what going on, next to nothing as investors say.. no work just talk talk talk..........................

i visit marina site in may this year and again last month no work done, not even 5% difference

I went to UKCIG office and talk to Abhay, well he told me we have to be happy what that company didnt ran away with all our money and they still do some job!!!! Lol, but he is right:(((

TO DATE the most important issue-completed MARINA STAR OR THEY DO ANYTHING DURING CONSTRUCTION OF ALL END? And the indignant and swear on FORUM I think USELESS TO-nothing will change-ONLY NERVES its ports.

even if they ran away with the money where are they going to run to? India? Canada? UK? I have contacts everywhere that will track them down and handle things effectivly


UKCIG has around 4-5 projects and only 1 partially started, funny enough they still selling other projects that no start like cavendish, metroplis lofts etc.

Hi, I am new in thit forum but also have the same problems as all you. I've been in Dubai/Marina Star 9.12.2010 and make a few pics, not sure now how I can post them to the forum. Pls somebody explain to me.

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WHEN THE SHOW ON TV NATIONAL Geographic HOW TO BUILD vast and complex buildings in Dubai and Abu Dhabi for 2 years, then rejoice the builders. BUT when you look at these non GOOD BUILDERS OF UKCIG THAT FOR 3 YEARS NOT EVEN BUILT THE FOUNDATION - IS NOT GOOD WORDS. Now for the money We commend them for their apartments can be bought 2 each. And then it turns out, as money-STOLE Then we get They're just so picking EARTH, near the day when THEY ALL STOP AND flee. WHAT TO DO?

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Sorry , but i would like to say that with this kind of speed of construction it will not be finished before 2013 !

NO, by 2013, built only THIRD FLOOR. NEW SCHEDULE OF CONSTRUCTION-In the year 2037 BUILT STRUCTURE (ONE FLOOR PER YEAR) TO THE YEAR 2047 - Finishing facade, TO THE YEAR 2057-INTERIOR TRIM. FINISH - in 2060

THREE PHOTOS ABOVE-called Hide and Seek - I go to seek Who works

The Plastic on the rebar in Dubai only means one thing


The project is on hold.... no significant work has been done since June 2010......7 months maybe 1 floor done, very fast developer this one


When you talk to construction worker and they say ukcig has money problems than you have your answer, trust your gut feeling, if you dont feel good about something than its true 99.99% of the time

UKCIG has a problem with the money?! WHERE OUR MONEY ?!!!!!!!!! In fact all forced to pay at least 50% of the total. ALL WHO STOLE OUR MONEY go to hell!

I have paid over 70 .... and when? I paid 70% over 2 years ago..... u know they have more than 4 projects they sold and they said they have major projects for 2010 which never happend and no one knows what happend to it.... they had a master development project which is a big laugh now since they cant even build a 27 floor tower... they want to build 10 buildings but cant even get the basics of 1 building right... UKCIG doing construction work is like trying to teach a donkey how to ice skate


Metropolis lofts= failed
metropolis imperial= failed
cavendish=failed
masterplanned ajman community= failed


New word in oxford dictionary is UKCIG which means achieving 100% FAILURE they should get a trophy


the UAE should have a new national holiday in recognation of the shit hole that the government has allowed developers to create.... iam out of dubai as soon as I get my investments sold the day I get my keys.. good bye cow boy nation

anyone tried to sue the ukcig or is it useless?
5 unfinished objects - it's a lot of money, investors who have invested and what-all are silent? when I signed the contract in 2007, I was assured that all the money insured by the state, but it turned out lie.
ENOUGH Shut-ALL IN THE COURT!

HAPPY NEW YEAR. ALL GOOD LUCK AND HAPPINESS

I dont think UKCIG has a New Years Resolution or new plan for 2011, same old sneaky thieving ways for 2011

for the GTR11. in your message, dated December 1, I saw the Russian words (you write in Russian?)

What do you expect? UKLI / UKCIG was started by a crook (Chohan). Does anyone know where in Dubai this rat lives? Someone should pay him a visit. I have his email address and need some help in Dubai tracing his IP address.

I do not understand: why are there still no man breaketh them to court? Indeed, many investors from England, Iran, UAE, why all the silence? IF filed a lawsuit and GRANT AGREEMENT is constantly changing terms of construction, SHOW ME THE ACTUAL STATE OF OBJECT-this is not enough. OR ALL OF USELESS?

What I've read on the net is that "due to the crisis" winning a court against a developer is difficult. More efficient way to change a developer's behaviour is file complaints at RERA. The More complaints the better. RERA have ways to influence the process. But it should be serious group complaints with all the facts pointing to developer cheating.

Rera is usless, People have already started lawsuits against UKCIG so things are moving ahead.

This Project is officially put on hold by the developer, mod's please change stats to ON HOLD

I want explein you how really is the ecrow account in Dubai ,what can developer make to take money from its and why often the project doesn't start but on the escrow account there are no more money.

I'm expleing you:

Developer make a new company ex: marketing company, project company, etc..it doesn't metter because this new compnay will do not any kind of work; after the new compnay make bills to the developer, and in this way developer can use the escrow account money to puy the new company or better to puy itself ( developer and you company are the same company ).

Do you understand?

All this mean there's no garantee system in Dubai for buyers

The escrow system falls down because the people paying in the money to the escrow do not have a representative to check the validity of payments leaving the account. The only people checking are the master developer, in this case Emaar. So if there is an invoice and the developer has authorised it then Emaar will pass it.

If the development was bank funded then the bank would employ an auditor or professional surveyor to look into all payments and the services that were supposed to be received for the payments.

Dubai has a backwards system of its own, its not like any other country, you could say its "unique" in ways that it ripps off people that have built the country.

No Regulation of any laws by Rera= investors leaving Dubai

No Regulation of any laws by Rera= investors leaving Dubai

^^
If the authorities of any country decide not to actively control players in an industry or provide any transparent consumer protection mechanisms… particularly if that country requires both (1) continued foreign investment (and large volumes of it) ..and.. 2. longer term population (and consumer) growth…
.. the decision not to regulate, maybe will be one that they will learn to regret, if not now, but in 5 to 10 year’s time?

For my sins, I invested in another UKCIG ‘development’ (the non-existent / illusionary Met Lofts).
Can I ask if any of you Marina Star investors have had any recent communication with or visited them at their Dubai offices, to verify whether they are still there?
As far as I know, none of the Met Lofts investors have had any communication or responses from them over last few months.
Given that they:
(1) are not developing anything, so therefore no requirement for them to ‘project manage’
(2) don’t communicate with their investors
and (3) I would assume they have been unable to make any sales either..
… So if there any people employed by UKCIG in their offices in Dubai, I couldn’t even take a guess at what on earth any employees have spent all day doing for the last few years?

Did any of you do any DUE DILIGENCE on the developer before you purchased, or use a lawyer to conduct your purchase?

I agree with your comments if you had, or you had bought from say Nakheel and be experiencing problems.

However, in this case I doubt if many of these developers would pass even the most basic Due Diligence, and in that case you cannot really blame RERA.

By the way, I am no fan or RERA either, I just thing a balanced view is needed here.

^^
If the authorities of any country decide not to actively control players in an industry or provide any transparent consumer protection mechanisms… particularly if that country requires both (1) continued foreign investment (and large volumes of it) ..and.. 2. longer term population (and consumer) growth…
.. the decision not to regulate, maybe will be one that they will learn to regret, if not now, but in 5 to 10 year’s time?

For my sins, I invested in another UKCIG ‘development’ (the non-existent / illusionary Met Lofts).
Can I ask if any of you Marina Star investors have had any recent communication with or visited them at their Dubai offices, to verify whether they are still there?
As far as I know, none of the Met Lofts investors have had any communication or responses from them over last few months.
Given that they:
(1) are not developing anything, so therefore no requirement for them to ‘project manage’
(2) don’t communicate with their investors
and (3) I would assume they have been unable to make any sales either..
… So if there any people employed by UKCIG in their offices in Dubai, I couldn’t even take a guess at what on earth any employees have spent all day doing for the last few years?

Did any of you do any DUE DILIGENCE on the developer before you purchased, or use a lawyer to conduct your purchase?



^^
Yes I did, when I reserved in 2007. However I did not find anything untoward. Of course if anyone did any basic research on them in the last 3 years, they wouldn’t go near them with a barge pole. But the negative info on linked companies or staff was not available in 2007.
One of their big selling points was that Met Lofts was a to be a JV with Balfour Beatty. That was a lie.
…But I have to admit I did not hire a team of private investigators to do a full historical background check on all the staff and any possible links to other companies.

Yes, I always knew that JVS was a bit of a gamble / high risk to say the least, so spread my investments. I fully expected a delay and was happy to wait a while.
Dubai could still fulfil it’s potential, and I still do believe there is long term potential (say in 10 to 20 year’s time). The early foundations of this potential future success could be planted…. the day that genuine regulation and consumer protection is implemented.

Until that day, people from all.. ahem… ‘sides’ can talk and post on forums as much as they want..

You have to know something very important,

Most of the developers that are in UAE now have gained experience since 2007 which means before 2007 the majority of companies that were in the UAE were just starting out. Of course the exception is Nakheel, Rera, etc, ( we all know how they turned out)

Their is risk in any market you enter, whether it is in the U.S , U.K or UAE.

The problem is not only because property prices have falled 60% , the problem is that the UAE government does not know how to regulate the banks or the developers. in 2007 construction based loans were giving out like 2 cent candy at a flee market.

UKCIG got the funds before 2007 for the majority of its projects, as far as I know nothing was financed through the banks which means technically money should be in the banks right now, escrow or not it should be their, but who knows if it is.

At todays construction prices all of UKCIG's projects could be built for half the cost that that would have cost UKCIG in 2007...

When Developers give excuses and nag about the recession it has nothing to do with anything because they got the majority of funds pre 2007 and out of the 30 investors that I am in contact with for Marina Star they are all willing to have this finished. Most investors of Marina Star are end users not speculators or flippers

UKCIG has one of the worst records in Dubai right now when it comes to construction, I doubt this will be able to pull them selves out of this hole they have dug anytime soon.

Besides this when you go to their offices , theirs like 20 people their.... I have absolutely no clue what in the world they do in the office when no work is getting done, for Marina Star if you take a look at the pictures from last year to this year you can see they built maybe 1 or 2 floors in the entire year

Besides this when you go to their offices , theirs like 20 people their....

GTR, may I ask when you (or anyone else for that matter) last visited their offices to verify that they are still present?

GTR, may I ask when you (or anyone else for that matter) last visited their offices to verify that they are still present?


I personally visited them in early September of this year, other visited their office last week,

No significant work has been carried out since April 2010 , you can compare the pictures in the previous pages and see for your self.

As far as I know their other projects such as Met Lofts, Cavendish, World Island etc etc are not going to be built anytime soon,

other visited their office last week

Would be interested to hear ‘other’s’ report on their visit..
What date exactly did ‘other’ visit them at their Emaar Square offices? And what did they see? How many employees? What were they doing?

No significant work has been carried out since April 2010 , you can compare the pictures in the previous pages and see for your self.

Yes, I’m well aware of UKCIG’s .. ahem.. performance..

Mark, May I ask what is the latest official statement you have received from UKCIG regarding Met lofts?

I am curious as to what excuse they are using for Met Loft investors


P.S they are still selling Met lofts thorough their property swap system ( more like property theft)

I am curious as to what excuse they are using for Met Loft investors

They were blaming the master developer for not providing final approval, which they have been saying for years. However have heard nothing from them over last few months.


:pepper:****What date exactly did ‘other’ visit them at their Emaar Square offices? And what did they see? How many employees? What were they doing?****:pepper:

Abhays answer to the delays as I am hearing from other invesotors was that:

1)" Be happy we are at least here and not running off with your money to other developers"
2) " Construction finish date is the same and has not changed"



The dates visited was from June 2010 to last week
No more than 3 employees seen at one time, most of the time no one was their


A couple of investors were right beside the Marina Star staying at the Lotus Hotel so their information is 100% accurate

looks ON HOLD

28/January/2011

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No progress here since May 2010...... investors are not stupid UKCIG

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On the Uk Capital Investments internet site there are still the project that will never built:

Metropolis Loft
Cavendish 1
Cavendish 2
Indigo
Te Grovesnor
Recency Oak

UK Capital Investments are ridiculous you do not have any moral principle, you should be ashamed.

You and others developers like you will finish in prison!!!

I am 99.99% sure Marina Star is on hold as well, no updates for the last 4 months and the new pic Imre took shows that they have wrapped the rebar in Plastic, which in Dubai means on hold

QUESTION FOR GTR11-you wrote that there were cases APPEALS TO COURT INVESTORS, how it would be and were there any refund?

QUESTION FOR GTR11-you wrote that there were cases APPEALS TO COURT INVESTORS, how it would be and were there any refund?


I dont really understand your question but I think you mean how do you go to the courts and state your case?

If is this your question from what I know :

1) Their is no such thing as class action ( group of people) law suits.
2) You can chose a law firm and open your case and get 10-15 investors and that law firm will submit each claim individually against UKCIG. The benefit of this is that the costs will be lower. This is what we are doing now, we are suing UKCIG individually but with 1 law firm.


P.S, UKCIG is on these forums all the time so they know the law suits are coming.

UKCIG SHOULD NOT SIT AT THE FORUM, A TOOL TO GET A GO AND WORKED ON CONSTRUCTION SITE

UKCIG SHOULD NOT SIT AT THE FORUM, A TOOL TO GET A GO AND WORKED ON CONSTRUCTION SITE

call him and tell them

Just arrived from Dubai, WAS MARINE STAR
the inspection-Saturday, 5 February, 3.30 PM
property is located only 5 persons, AND DOES NOT WORK JUST A protected object. My question-why no one is working and did nothing ANSWERED THAT FOR THE COMPANY AND NO MONEY IN THE NEAR FUTURE THERE WILL BE NO. VMC is no difference from my last INSPECTION in October 2010. And one more not good news, NEAR THE PARK WILL BE, WILL BE A MOSQUE-SIGN SHOULD ALREADY.
PHOTOS lay TOMORROW

Just arrived from Dubai, WAS MARINE STAR
the inspection-Saturday, 5 February, 3.30 PM
property is located only 5 persons, AND DOES NOT WORK JUST A protected object. My question-why no one is working and did nothing ANSWERED THAT FOR THE COMPANY AND NO MONEY IN THE NEAR FUTURE THERE WILL BE NO. VMC is no difference from my last INSPECTION in October 2010. And one more not good news, NEAR THE PARK WILL BE, WILL BE A MOSQUE-SIGN SHOULD ALREADY.
PHOTOS lay TOMORROW


Actually their has been no work since Summer 2010 way before October..... No answers to e-mails or phone calls either


did you manage to take any pictures?

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if anyone is interested in the direct number of the project manager in this project it is

DAVID JAMES RILEY+97144371675

Do you have his permission to post his personal details on this forum?

Do you have his permission to post his personal details on this forum?

If your an investor in Marina Star you can call him "anytime".... those were his words not mine lol, I dont think any non investors will be interested in calling him

I expect the guy is probably out of a job right now so the last thing he will be wanting is angry investors phoning him.

I expect the guy is probably out of a job right now so the last thing he will be wanting is angry investors phoning him.

Funny enough he works at UKCIG still, when he first got hired they (UKCIG) were boasting about how he apparently built half of Dubai... he cant even manage one simple project , BUT I wont bash him too much because like other project managers in Dubai the developer pays him, so he does what ever the developer says, that means lying, cheating, thieving or another legal or illegal activity the developer requests ( especially in this economy)

Did a quick background check on google right now, nothing formal but found out his number is actually on the Edward Covell website as well open to the general public... Appreatnly he worked on the Lagoons project...



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David has had a prolific project management and construction career that spans 25 years, 20 in the United Kingdom and the latter 5 in the middle east. David is accustomed to project managing large-scale multi-billion dirham developments, and his two recent roles prior to joining Edwards Covell are testament to his professionalism and outstanding skills.

David was Project Director on The Lagoons project in Dubai, masterplanned by Sama Dubai. David also project managed The Old Town residential development, consisting of 39 five star Arabic-themed low to mid-rise towers, part of The Burj Dubai Development (the location of the tallest building in the world).

Office : Dubai, United Arab Emirates
Telephone +971 (0)4 813 5363
Email driley@edwardscovell.com


More info about Edwards Covell related to Marina Star if anyone is interested:

Case Studies

Marina Star – Dubai Marina, UAE

What : Residential and retail tower
Where : Dubai Marina, Plot 5k Dubai UAE
Consists of Four basements
Ground (five shops)
24 Residential floors
Health club

Our involvement

We were initially consulted on the Marina Star project in order to improve certain design elements within the building. The project previously terminated at the top with a wave shaped top. We have provided a number of modifications to this in order to improve the look of the building as well as the functionality of the health club (previously concealed by this element, now it has has fantastic views around the marina).

We also worked with the site architects to improve the material palette both internally (previously largely undefined we developed interiors palette and perspectives of how this will look and feel, now adopted in the contract) and also externally.

The project has undertaken various value engineering processes. ECC have overseen these ensuring the quality of design is retained throughout.

http://www.edwardscovell.com/casestudies.html


Metropolis Lofts – Jumeirah Village South, UAE Another UKCIG failed project

What : Two linked residential and retail towers
Where : Jumeirah village Dubai UAE

Consists of Two Basements
Ground (seven shops)
Four podium parking floors
Health club
30 Residential floors

Our Involvement:

We were taken on board to completely redesign this project. A local architect had produced designs that the client was unhappy with. As the project had already developed to detailed design stage, ECC recommended retaining the main concepts for the structural engineer's and MEP proposals but to redress the facade treatments, room layouts and plan efficiency. Over a series of 6 months design were developed for the client and subsequently adopted. The ethos behind the project was to make it reminiscent of its name, that of 'Manhattan Lofts' ; an idea of open plan living with large bold window openings, shaded floating gardens (large recessed terraces) , with a modern New york warehouse feel, but injected with bright colours at strategic points.

ECC worked with local architects delivery the above designs inline with onerous local regulations and limitations. the project is currently progressing on site to plan.

Metropolis Imperial Another failed UKCIG project

What : Residential and retail tower
Where : Jumeirah village Dubai UAE

Consists of Three basements
Ground (shops)
16 Residential floors

Our involvement
ECC were consulted in order to look at a partial redesign of the project. The scheme had been designed by a local architect. The project has subsequently changed development partners and as a result they wished us to bring the design in line with what was to be its sister project Metropolis Lofts. ECC developed the design around many of the same principles as the Lofts project- that of large openings, open space (incorporating many split level apartments) and the general Manhattan feel.

Cavendish 1 and 2 – Awali City, Ajman Another Failed UKCIG project

What 2 Residential and retail towers
Where Awali City Ajman UAE
Consists of One basement, Seven podium parking floors
25 Residential floors

Our involvement

ECC are appointed as lead consultant for these 2 towers in Ajman. ECC developed design proposals from inception onwards. Many of the projects in Ajman are constrained by very basic master-planning with super high density sights. For us the challenged was two fold. Firstly many projects in this area are effected by large unsightly podium floors. Secondly the plan constraints determine a very deep plan form. this mean large areas are artificially light within the tower.

We designed each tower so that the podium was concealed within the silhouette of the building meaning at street level the tower would continue upwards without interruption or set back. We also adopted the H-plan form. this brought light into the centre of the plan meaning every apartment could be generously lit by natural light. the projects have been designed with contemporary European feel in order to stand out from their neighbours.

This developer (UKCIG) has now ran away with everybody's money. The phone lines are disconnected and the office has been emptied out, their is no employees at the offices.

I suggest for everyone to take up legal consultation asap.

Nice exclusive cover GTR :)

Nice exclusive cover GTR :)

Some investors might not believe me or they are still living in a dream, I invite all investors that are in Dubai or going to Dubai to try to call , e-mail or visit their offices, you will find out they are all gone, most likely back to the U.K.

Everyone should take this seriously, they have over 4 SOLD OUT projects with hundreds of investors that have been scammed, including Marina Star, Metropolis Lofts, Metropolis Imperial, Cavendish, etc etc.

I personally have contacted the U.K Consulate in UAE to notify them of these crooks.

This developer (UKCIG) has now ran away with everybody's money. The phone lines are disconnected and the office has been emptied out, their is no employees at the offices.

I suggest for everyone to take up legal consultation asap.

Hi GTR

May I ask how you know this?

And when was the office emptied out? Is this a very recent thing?

Some of the Met Lofts investors have visited this year and discovered that there were not many, but despite the fact that they never respond to emails, there actually were a few people in their offices. No idea what those employees were actually doing though..

As a Marina Star investor, what reasons were you given for the fact that they seem to have abandoned work there? Would be very interested to know, but assume it is lack of funds…

As you know UKCIG had a number of projects they were ‘marketing’, although as most of those were not in established locations, so it has been much easier for them to pick and choose from a list of ‘force majeure’ type excuses such as blaming the master developers for not handing over the sites or saying that infrastructure has not been developed in time etc.

But with Marina Star, it’s a different kettle of fish. If we can find out the real reason why that has stopped perhaps that would also shed some light on the real reasons why none of their projects have done much? As said, assume those reasons relate to the fact that they spent too much time on sales and marketing and not enough on business planning…

Hi GTR

May I ask how you know this?

And when was the office emptied out? Is this a very recent thing?

Some of the Met Lofts investors have visited this year and discovered that there were not many, but despite the fact that they never respond to emails, there actually were a few people in their offices. No idea what those employees were actually doing though..

As a Marina Star investor, what reasons were you given for the fact that they seem to have abandoned work there? Would be very interested to know, but assume it is lack of funds…

As you know UKCIG had a number of projects they were ‘marketing’, although as most of those were not in established locations, so it has been much easier for them to pick and choose from a list of ‘force majeure’ type excuses such as blaming the master developers for not handing over the sites or saying that infrastructure has not been developed in time etc.

But with Marina Star, it’s a different kettle of fish. If we can find out the real reason why that has stopped perhaps that would also shed some light on the real reasons why none of their projects have done much? As said, assume those reasons relate to the fact that they spent too much time on sales and marketing and not enough on business planning…



I'll rather not discuss things of "sensative nature" over a public forum, for details please send me ur e-mail so I can add u to the UKCIG investor group

The facts is 3-4 investors visited them within the last month,

1) the project location remained empty with security from Condor stating that they had not been paid and that they had moved almost all equipment from site.

2) the phone lines have been shut off, no signal at all

3) no one at their offices, offices emptied out last week

4) no response to e-mails.

5) no construction workers on site for the last 2 months.

6) their international offices are bogus, fake, rubbish, what ever you want to call it, they had zero international offices

7) none of their other projects had ever gone further than fencing.

8) their CEO is in a young crook with a vision of fast easy money




I strongly encourage ALL INVESTORS to notify the Dubai authorities as I have done and call the U.K consulate in Dubai.

We need everyone to contact the authorities.

Just sent you a pm...

[QUOTE=GTR11;72826211]I'll rather not discuss things of "sensative nature" over a public forum, for details please send me ur e-mail so I can add u to the UKCIG investor group

The facts is 3-4 investors visited them within the last month,

1) the project location remained empty with security from Condor stating that they had not been paid and that they had moved almost all equipment from site.

2) the phone lines have been shut off, no signal at all

3) no one at their offices, offices emptied out last week

4) no response to e-mails.

5) no construction workers on site for the last 2 months.

6) their international offices are bogus, fake, rubbish, what ever you want to call it, they had zero international offices

7) none of their other projects had ever gone further than fencing.

8) their CEO is in a young crook with a vision of fast easy money





I strongly encourage ALL INVESTORS to notify the Dubai authorities as I have done and call the U.K consulate in Dubai.

We need everyone to contact the authorities.

We should change the status, its ON HOLD now.

EDIT: They have said that they have moved offices, further information below

Received new information today that they might be at a different office address in Dubai now, I can not confirm or deny this as I am not in Dubai.

what I can confirm is that:

Phone lines still not working and e-mail are not being answered,
Their is currently no one working at Marina Star plot within the last 1 month.

I Received this today

Dear Valued Client,

We are currently in the process of moving offices.
For any enquiries we can be contacted on 04 813 5363
Or alternately you can e-mail us on customerservices@ukcapitalinvestments.com


To keep up-to-date with the very latest news please visit our website:
http://www.ukcapitalinvestments.com


The Management

UKCIG Real Estate Brokers (LLC)

Visited the website and could see nothing that mentions the current status of Marina Star other than it is sold out and under construction.

Visited the website and could see nothing that mentions the current status of Marina Star other than it is sold out and under construction.

Their website has not been updated for at least 2 months, and the customer relations e-mail goes unanswered 99.99% of the time. they also did not say where their new office locations have been moved to..... They are obviously stalling once again

Important Announcement

Herald Land Real Estate Brokers LLC,would like to officially announce we are nothing to do with UKCIG, ECC, Crown Estates or any other company owned or run by Bally Chohan or his family.

We are part owned by a prominent Saudi family.

We are based at the following office address:

Office 104,
First Floor,
Building 4,
Emaar Square
Dubai

We welcome callers to our office to prove our business credentials or feel free to contact us direct

Where are all these companies coming from... This is like a Egyptian maze now, no one knows who owns what or what is going on.

YES-YES. NOBODY KNOWS - Where The street where this house. NOBODY KNOWS WHERE our money and how it ended

People. lets put the Bias away and separate truth from Myth. Their is allot of speculation out their but nothing is certain.

The new phones work but no one is picking up, has anyone actually got in contact with them on their new number?

The site is completely empty.
http://i52.tinypic.com/2j1wsch.jpg

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http://i52.tinypic.com/2iiemg7.jpg
Only one guy was there.

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it has been empty for several months now.. this shouldent be to anyone suprise, projects stop and restart in dubai all the time, it just depends how long it will sit , maybe 1 week maybe 2 years, no one knows.

ukcig are now no more, dispersed, long gone, done a runner.. whatever you want to call it

(See photo above), a lucky man - he already has his apartment. and on our land and our money

(See photo above), a lucky man - he already has his apartment. and on our land and our money

if you talking about the watchman I regret to inform you that he probebly makes less than $30.00 per day so don't get your hopes up, he probably lives with 15 other people in a 1 room labour camp.

The new phones work but no one is picking up, has anyone actually got in contact with them on their new number?

it seems to be working, I got in contact with them yesterday, as for the project its still dead

What's Marina Star investors view on Herald Land and Crown Estates. It's most likely that UK Capital Investments are too busy working out how to con people out of their hard earned in these company names. UKCIG are probably way too busy to carry on with Marina Star or Metropolis Lofts or Cavendish to bother about their obligations to supply a building.

Could i just ask.... It is buildings UKCIG is meant to develop isn't it? There's been so much inactivity on the building (or communicating) front from UK Capital Investments that I forgot they're meant to be building something!!

The only thing they're interested in is building new fancy web sites, posting loads of fake jobs to try and stop their name coming up in forums like this on the first page of Google it seems.

Just another big scam i'm afraid that the Dubai government are tolerating without realising it's actually damaging their reputation.

As long as this is built sooner rather than later I am happy, their is so much speculation going around, first about UKLI now about Herald land and crown states and berkley states, edward covell and so on and on and on, I dont know what to believe or not to believe anymore.....


the only thing I know for sure is that little to no work has been done over the last year, this is a fact all investors who have been to dubai can confirm

Important Announcement

Herald Land Real Estate Brokers LLC,would like to officially announce we are nothing to do with UKCIG, UKLi, UKlii, Pendragon Marhaus, ECC (Dubai) ECA , Crown Estates or any other company owned or run by Bally Chohan or his family.

We are part owned by a prominent Saudi family.

We are based at the following office address:

Office 104,
First Floor,
Building 4,
Emaar Square
Dubai

We welcome callers to our office to prove our business credentials or feel free to contact us direct.

We are fully compliant under UAE law and have all the appropriate licences and approvals