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1929, 1930, 1931, 1936, 1939,
1944, 1961, 1962, 1965, 1966,
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I don't want to be mean, hoops, but the top photo was before the recent renovations.

No, it's not!

Strange, I saw a picture of the old Lambeau Field when I commented. I guess somebody removed it.

Strange, I saw a picture of the old Lambeau Field when I commented. I guess somebody removed it.

bizarre!!

Someone try to post some good pre-renovation pics.

Oh, and I don't mean to start anything here, but I find it a bit strange that after someone said you had an old pic, it mysteriously dissapeared. Is it only a coincidence that he posted that at 4:15, and it says that your post was edited at 4:15? Nothing "bizarre" about that...

Someone try to post some good pre-renovation pics.

Oh, and I don't mean to start anything here, but I find it a bit strange that after someone said you had an old pic, it mysteriously dissapeared. Is it only a coincidence that he posted that at 4:15, and it says that your post was edited at 4:15? Nothing "bizarre" about that...


It was a light-hearted joke!! I posted an old pic and then removed it after someone pointed it out, and them made a little joke about bizarre things happening! I will turn myself over to the UN War Crimes Tribunal first thing in the morning.

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greatest football stadium

Thread titles will be changed and the useless ones will be closed
I thought this stadium deserves an open thread
Great call . . . I love this stadium

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Is this the only NFL stadium without chairbacks?

There are large sections of Heinz Field and Cleveland Browns Stadium that are bench seating, but these along with every other venue is predominantly chairback seating.

For a little history, the seating capacities for each year the stadium was expanded.

1957 32,500
1961 38,669
1963 42,327
1965 50,852
1970 56,263
1985 56,926
1990 59,543
1995 60,890
2001 65,290
2003 72,928

And some old pics from http://www.lambeaufield.com/
First of all, City Stadium. Where the Packers played before Lambeau Field was built. Capacity 25,000
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Construction
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First game Sept. 29, 1957 Packers beat the Bears 21-17
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1965
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1970
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1985
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1996
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The present, all pics here after are from Flickr photographers.
Capacity 72,928
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Curly Lambeau
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Vince Lombardi
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Can't have a Lambeau thread and not show some tailgating.

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Pre-Renovation
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Post Renovation:cheers:
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Looking down the Legendary Tunnel
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I wonder what those not in North America think of these Historic Grounds?:)

^Love It.

nice aerial shot
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I kinda liked the old-school Lambeau, felt really collegiate in a way. I think there's something to be said those slightly run-down Midwestern stadiums before all the renovations (i.e. Notre Dame, Michigan, etc.)

Lambeau Field in 1989
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Lambeau Field looks like a college football stadium than an NFL stadium. This stadium has bench seating, everyone else has individual chair seating.And the box structure (post-renovation) should have completely encircled the seating bowl instead of being on only three sides. The reason for Lambeau Field having bench seating is?

Tradition and capacity, going from benches to tip up seats would reduce the capacity to about 63,000-64,000 according to the team and the architects. And they would have little trouble selling 100,000 tickets for every game.

Also there is no need for more suites, 166 is plenty for the state of Wisconsin, club seating is adaquate as well. I for one prefer the horseshoe configuration of the suites, looked a little monotinous when they went all the way around before the last renovation.

The area, tailgating, and inside of the stadium remind me of Notre Dame Stadium. I like it.

The type of turf used at Lambeau Field:
DD Grassmaster (http://www.surfacesolutionsna.com/ddgrassmaster.asp)

http://www.surfacesolutionsna.com/images/cross_section.jpg
Natural grass roots intertwine with the artificial grass fibers.

This new turf installed in the spring of 2007 been a boon for the Packers. Grounds keepers no longer have too replace the center of the field a couple of times a season. Also the field stays green much longer and doesn't freeze over. (This brand of turf is also used in Denver, Philadelphia and the Emirates)

I like it too. The area surrounding the stadium seems to be charming!
The extensions are very suitable!

The cap. is really 72,000 ? It looks quiet small fo this.
This (european) stadium with a similar size looks bigger:


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^^
That's because Lambeau is all bleacher style seating in one continuous seating bowl with boxes on top. Unlike Estadio Santiago Bernabéu, which has individual seats on many different levels with suites/ clubs mostly on one side. :)

^^ Take a look at the two in the sattelite view from the same level. Lambeau's seating bowl is a lot wider than it looks:

Lambeau:
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Estadio Bernabeu:
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View of the press box
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Seating Chart
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Tradition and capacity, going from benches to tip up seats would reduce the capacity to about 63,000-64,000 according to the team and the architects. And they would have little trouble selling 100,000 tickets for every game.

Also there is no need for more suites, 166 is plenty for the state of Wisconsin, club seating is adaquate as well. I for one prefer the horseshoe configuration of the suites, looked a little monotinous when they went all the way around before the last renovation.

I don't care about that. The luxury box levels are to be made into a complete ring, which would increase the capacity to over 80,000 (the scoreboard would have to be raised, though) and all the benches would have to be replaced with chairback seating. There's gonna have to be a need for more luxury boxes to achieve the full, complete, outright buildout. Chairback seats help to reduce overcrowding in stadiums. If you want to sell more tickets, you'll have to do either one of those jobs. Sorry.

You're not going to get 8,000 more seats by filing in three suite levels around that end, maybe 2,000-3,000, and they wouldn't sell all of them. They are talking about adding 7,000-8,000 new bench type seats in the open end by extending the bowl back another 16 or so rows.

They will never replace the bench seating with tip up seating for the reasons mentioned above whether anyone likes it or not, just like Germans will fit tooth and nail to keep their standing room only areas (and rightly so IMO).

Also adding in Suites or club seats that you are going to have a hard time selling is just economically stupid regardless of aesthetics. For most games its next to impossible to get regular tickets, but there usually a couple of open suites even with the current 166.

When the waiting list for general season tickets is 734 years, I would suggest that more general seating is prudent.

I don't care about that. The luxury box levels are to be made into a complete ring, which would increase the capacity to over 80,000 (the scoreboard would have to be raised, though) and all the benches would have to be replaced with chairback seating. There's gonna have to be a need for more luxury boxes to achieve the full, complete, outright buildout. Chairback seats help to reduce overcrowding in stadiums. If you want to sell more tickets, you'll have to do either one of those jobs. Sorry.

Jim, where do you get off talking to people like that? Why do you always feel so high and mighty?

Benn is right, you are wrong. Get over it.

i dont really like the design.

i dont really like the design.
Okay...

Jim, where do you get off talking to people like that? Why do you always feel so high and mighty?

Benn is right, you are wrong. Get over it.

Just another user who has to be an absolute meanie. Excuse me for thinking Lambeau Field is not at buildout mode ust because the ring os luxury suites are left unfinished? If this stadium were built in Milwaukee, we wouldn't have this problem. Why am I always prone to conflicts here?

And I actually meant "eventually'.

Everyone has there opinions on aesthetics, most Packers fans I know like the open end (me as well, much as I hate the Packers). There is a cultural disposition towards horseshoe layouts in this country, just like elliptical layouts in South America or four separate stands in the UK.

What they should have done (and probably would have if the money had been there) is go to 90,000 or so seats when they enlarged the bowl with the suites/indoor clubs in their current layout.

And FYI the location of it within the state of Wisconsin would have little effect on the demands for VIP seating, many of the suites are used by Milwaukee area residents anyway. Its the states team and draws from all over it. American Football is a once a week sport, and any fan is willing to make the drive across the state (or a few) for a game.

Why am I always prone to conflicts here?



Its your tone. You tend to come off as a pompous ass a lot of the time. You act as if your word should be final, and you rarely listen to other people. Tone it down a few notches, and you'll see people will be much friendlier to you.

I don't care about that. The luxury box levels are to be made into a complete ring, which would increase the capacity to over 80,000 (the scoreboard would have to be raised, though) and all the benches would have to be replaced with chairback seating. There's gonna have to be a need for more luxury boxes to achieve the full, complete, outright buildout. Chairback seats help to reduce overcrowding in stadiums. If you want to sell more tickets, you'll have to do either one of those jobs. Sorry.

First off..I'm not a Packer fan but a NFL fan so I shall provide this information below.

According to the Packers own website season tickets gave been sold out for since 1960..that 50 years.


http://www.packers.com/tickets/season-tickets.html

Lambeau Field has been sold out on a season ticket basis since 1960 and we've been accumulating names on our legendary season ticket waiting list ever since. To add a name to the list for stadium bowl seats, please send a written request and include your name, address, phone number and the number of tickets requested (limit four) to:

Packers Ticket Office
P.O. Box 10628
Green Bay, WI 54307-0628

Separate lists are maintained for Club Seats and Private Suites. Please express your interest in obtaining premium seats to:

Packers Premium Seating
P.O. Box 10628
Green Bay, WI 54307-0628


The Green Bay Packers have more fans waiting to get season tickets than seats in the stadiums. According to wiki the season ticket wait is 30 years.

The Packers' fan base is famously dedicated: regardless of the team's performance, every Packers game at Lambeau Field has been sold out since 1960. Despite the Packers having by far the smallest local TV market, the Packers have developed one of the largest fan bases in the NFL. Each year they consistently rank as one of the top teams in terms of popularity. The Packers have one of the longest waiting lists for season tickets in professional sports with about 74,000 people as of May 3, 2007. In 2008 the list grew by more than 4,000 names. There are now more names on the waiting list than there are seats at Lambeau Field. The average wait time for season tickets is said to be over 30 years; yet if a name were to be added to the list today, the estimated wait could extend well over 100 years. For this reason, it is not unusual for fans to designate a recipient of their season tickets in their wills or place newborn infants on the waiting list after receiving birth certificates

I feel like this is one of the few stadiums in the NFL that could have a 150,000 capacity at it still would be full every Sunday.
The size of a market doesn't make teams successful, the passion of the fans does and Green Bay is a great example of that.

I love this stadium and the history of the team. Had NO IDEAL where green bay was in the usa had to google it. Would love to have a superbowl in this stadium for 50 years of nfl superbowls.

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What an amazing photo with the jets.

Nice stadium, with a bit of a college football feeling mop. Most succesfull team in NFL ever? realy?

Most succesfull team in NFL ever? realy?

It's not called the Vince Lombardi trophy for nothing.

One of the nicest stadiums in NFL,great looking.

It's not called the Vince Lombardi trophy for nothing.

Depends on whether one is talking about the complete history of the NFL, or the Superbowl era. Ann awful lot of people count '67 on for that reason, and then Pittsburgh would be the most successful in terms of trophies.

^^^^ Your only saying that cos your from Minneapolis.

^^^^ Your only saying that cos your from Minneapolis.

Or he hates the Eagles.

Or he hates the Eagles.

bet its both. sucking at sports :horse:

^^^^ Your only saying that cos your from Minneapolis.

I'm only saying that because it seems like as many people from anywhere in this country feels that way as don't. And living in Milwaukee for five years, there were plenty of people in Mil town seem to feel the same way. I am all for going back to day one. And I like to think of college football as since 1905, when the rules were standardized into something like what is played today. The earliest most people here want to consider is 1936 (or even the 60s in some cases) when the AP poll became the official designation for deciding the national title.

But these standards do not seem to be a concensus by any means.

Or he hates the Eagles.

Kind of like the eagles, liked McNabb, like Reid, just not most Eagles fans (or at least the ones that have made it to games here).

its like an ancient Greek fighting arena

Amazing stadium! :cheers:

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its like an ancient Greek fighting arena

Um not really. Its like an American college football stadium, or a South American football stadium. Greek theaters were always one level, but built into a hillside, were semicircular. One could sort of compare it to a roman arena or amphitheater, elliptical, minimal divisions of the bowl (except for the Coliseum and a couple other outliers) built above grade ect.

One of the great stadiums to see a game at though, especially decked out in like 3 layers of Purple.

I found this about Green Bay Packers potential expansion plans

http://www.customintercept.com/surveys/web/lambeauexpansion.htm

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Please no! That looks awful.

I think it's great they might expand that venue (certainly among the best in sport, period), but have to agree the particular proposal appears ragged. I get it that it would need to cater to higher end seating to yield the best return, but it appears they made little effort to marry the interior form with the existing bowl and suite structure.

On the flip side, however, the proposal appears geared for the purpose of guaging interests in the various seating and suite types. So if the public says they want suites then I guess that's what they should get. If they were to stick with this general form, though, I'd wish they'd make it a single span and get rid of the "bridges" between the three sections. For me that segmentation of the expansion further kills the appeal.

Just build an upper tier that connects the ends of the luxury suite level. Nothing fancy.

Please no! That looks awful.

well, everyone seems to gush over how college the stadium is. Why not take it all the way with the ugly college like expansion.

I love this stadium and the history of the team. Had NO IDEAL where green bay was in the usa had to google it. Would love to have a superbowl in this stadium for 50 years of nfl superbowls.

It would be great to have the Super Bowl in this stadium every year...if they played the Super Bowl in September. Wisconsin is COLD in February!


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well, everyone seems to gush over how college the stadium is. Why not take it all the way with the ugly college like expansion.

It kind of has all of the pluses with almost none of the problems associated with college football stadiums, compact has sort of a laid back feel about it, no one is too far from the field. Ad its single level bowl is a big selling point for a lot of people, gives a very unified feel that just does not exist elsewhere in the NFL.

As much as they could use the extra seats and VIP seating for revenue they ought to try something that fits in a little better. This proposal looks garish and painfully unbalanced for such a cleanly done stadium as is.

According to Milwauke Journal Sentinel , Lambeau Field is going to get additional 7.500 seats in a year or so. Few more people to freeze! Cheers!!!

http://www.customintercept.com/surveys/web/lambeauexpansion.htm

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http://www.customintercept.com/surveys/web/Images/e-w%20terrace%20bleacher%20south%20end.jpg

The design of this expansion is overexaggerated.

I have a feeling that Lambeau Field will never have the feel of a complete bowl again.

According to Milwauke Journal Sentinel , Lambeau Field is going to get additional 7.500 seats in a year or so. Few more people to freeze! Cheers!!!
Instead of adding seats they should work on putting in real seat backs as opposed to their bleacher seating. That is the aspect Lambeau needs to have for it to be considered a truly top tier stadium.

^^I talked about this earlier, but several other users said it will reduce capacity and rejected the idea. And their large season ticket waiting list sucks.

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Instead of adding seats they should work on putting in real seat backs as opposed to their bleacher seating. That is the aspect Lambeau needs to have for it to be considered a truly top tier stadium.
Considering the fact that the season ticket waiting list is larger than the stadium's capacity...

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^^^^ Like the fact you used a bear and nomarandlee is a bears fan ;)
Yeah taking the bleachers away from Lambeau Field will never work.

^^ I can be objective when the time calls. :D

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They could probably rip out the bleachers bare and have a waiting list of 100k for standing room only.

That wouldn't change the fact that an NFL facility should have stadium seating when you are asking people to shell out $50-150 dollars per game. Yes it would decrease their attendance some but the number of people you can fit in to a given space isn't everything.

an NFL facility should have stadium seating when you are asking people to shell out $50-150 dollars per game.

People have paid more than that to sit on a wooden plank for a college football game...the team is fan-owned anyway so if enough people complained about the bleachers they would've already upgraded to seats.

Lambeau Field before the renovation had about 198 private boxes, but now it has about 166. Why the reduction, the stupid season ticket waiting list?

Does anyone know why they didn't complete the bowl of corporate boxes during the last renovation?

^^I talked about this earlier, but several other users said it will reduce capacity and rejected the idea. And their large season ticket waiting list sucks.

I notice most of your opinions are devoid of intelligent thought.

How about building a temporary stadium somewhere in Green Bay, seating at least 60,000, in order to accommodate a proper expansion of the stadium?

An example could be seen in Vancouver. Whilst Vancouver's BC Place Stadium is being upgraded, a temporary stadium has been purposely built at Hasting's Park known as Empire Field. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_Field

So we take this: x 3 = (well 27,500 x 3 = 82,500!) Which of course sounds ridiculous, so we make it x 2 and then some to reach that 60,000 capacity minimum.
http://media.greenradio.topscms.com/images/3d/ed/397b6d064a4ab53222c346b7e4e2.jpeg

This temporary stadium will be in a far greater scale than that of Vancouver's solution and will certainly break the record books.

Have the existing private boxes removed in order to accommodate a 2nd tier. Probably remove the Holmgren Way entrance (or modified) to accommodate the expansion and add a new entrance. Modifications could be done to make the stadium truly symmetrical in shape (from a birds-eye point of view).

With expansion, addition of individual seats and far greater private boxes we can easily see the stadium pushing 100,000+ in overall capacity.

Heck, why not go all out and attempt to expand, to become the largest stadium in the world! You take the existing bowl, consider a similar yet expanded bowl for the 2nd tier, or even just an expansion of the bowl period, and say offer a capacity of 140,000!

Car Parking? Not a problem, though ground level car parking will be removed in order to accommodate stadium modifications, you could put in underground parking to help in adding car parking space.

Of course this won't happen for quite some time, given the recent renovations in 2003. If the money is there to do it, then why not? Perhaps the 2020's or 2030's would give better reasons to expand.

Does anyone know why they didn't complete the bowl of corporate boxes during the last renovation?

A because they didn't need more premium seats at the time (to this day the only available seats are usually a couple of the suites that sometimes go unsold); B, it gives them flexiblity for future expansion and C for aesthetic reasons.

I just filled out that Lambeau survey in the link as a way to tell the Packer management that those designs look like complete garbage. I hope they read it.

Hey en1044, could a temporary stadium idea work at some point in the future? I mean obviously not now when you still want to get maximum use out of the existing facilities, but say 20 or 30 years down?

Hey en1044, could a temporary stadium idea work at some point in the future? I mean obviously not now when you still want to get maximum use out of the existing facilities, but say 20 or 30 years down?

Well, I'm not a Packers fan. I'm a Lambeau Field fan...so I have no idea.

^^ So the construction of a temporary facility to facilitate a full on expansion of Lambeau Field will not work? Even if this temporary facility were reasonable in it's capacity?

Considering the fact that the season ticket waiting list is larger than the stadium's capacity...

http://www.myfacewhen.com/images/150.jpg

How about YES, provided, under the condition that the stadium gets a full on expansion which comprises of a 2nd tier, bringing it over 100,000 in capacity.

^^I don't think an expansion of Lambeau Field's capacity to 100,000 is even feasible, even at this point.

source: http://www.jsonline.com/

The Green Bay Packers announced Thursday that they will add approximately 6,600 new seats in the south end-zone area of Lambeau Field and will add a new gate and rooftop viewing platform in the north end zone.

The project is expected to cost $130 million. The franchise also announced it would move up its construction plans, and now will schedule a groundbreaking on the project on Sept. 1.

The team had initially said it would break ground after the Super Bowl this season.

As expected, the Packers said they would finance the project, which is expected to be completed in time for the 2013 season, with no public tax dollars. And the team said they were still considering a stock sale; it would be the fifth such time the Packers have offered such a sale.

More: http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/128382863.html

source: Packers.com

http://prod.static.packers.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/imported/GB/photos/clubimages/2011/08-August/110825lambeau_dev1--nfl_medium_540_360.jpg

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http://prod.static.packers.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/imported/GB/photos/clubimages/2011/08-August/110825lambeau_dev4--nfl_medium_540_360.jpg

Renderings - http://www.packers.com/media-center/photo-gallery/North-sound-end-zone-expansion-plans/5382c973-6857-486a-84ad-90b20d6870c8

For me, I think it would look so much better if it was just one huge tier, rather than looking like three seperate stands.

^^And to think I wanted only luxury boxes in that very area.

Well it certainly changes the character of the place and I am not really a fan, gonna look mighty unbalanced. Although they really do need more seats.

Well it certainly changes the character of the place and I am not really a fan, gonna look mighty unbalanced. Although they really do need more seats.

Yeah, they certainly need more seats. But these artist renderings really look unbalanced and woould destroy the overall look of this phantastic ground. They should try to fit expansion stands to the bowl-feel of the stadium in its current state.

makes lambeau look massive

Looks Horrible.....DO IT!

Wouldn't it be pretty cool to host the IFAF World Championship at Green Bay?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IFAF_World_Championship

Packers' stock sale approved by NFL

By Don Walker of the Journal Sentinel
Oct. 8, 2011

The Green Bay Packers have received NFL approval to conduct a stock sale to help pay for the team's $143 million expansion project at Lambeau Field.

In a statement, the NFL said Commissioner Roger Goodell determined that the stock sale "meets the appropriate conditions established in 1997 for such a sale in order to raise funds for stadium renovation."

On Tuesday in Houston, NFL owners will be briefed on the Packers plan, but there is no ownership vote required.

The NFL statement said the Packers have an atypical ownership structure that is "grandfathered."

"In connection with the club's last proposed stock sale in 1997, our office determined that the Packers are entitled to sell stock for certain purposes consistent with the 'grandfather,' namely for capital raising purposes such as stadium improvements.
More: http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/packers-stock-sale-approved-by-nfl-131397703.html

The site where you can buy your chunk of the Packers, and help fund that really ugly addition to Lambeau, is here:

http://packersowner.com/

The thing that really makes me thing that you are really getting gouged here, is the $25 for "postage and handling". Do they have players stuffing the envelopes or something?

By the way, did the Kenny Chesney concert leave the field inside Lambeau in pretty bad shape?

Will any damage to the field hinder any chances of Lambeau hosting any future non-sporting events?

^^ So the construction of a temporary facility to facilitate a full on expansion of Lambeau Field will not work? Even if this temporary facility were reasonable in it's capacity?

If they wanted to do really big renovations to Lambeau the Packers would probably play at Camp Randall, U of Wisconsin's stadium temporarily (Capacity of 80k). They used to play there for exhibitions games.

http://i.imgur.com/MDsIj.jpg

I don't have a lot of images handy, but the Green Bay Packers (NFL) recently began construction on a project to add about 6.6K seats, along with other improvements, to their stadium (Lambeau Field).

http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-1/Packers-announce-plans-for-Lambeau-Fields-south-north-end-zones/1df5d407-10c0-43fd-b12b-e87a632a8c11

Architectural images:
http://www.packers.com/media-lounge/photo-gallery/North-sound-end-zone-expansion-plans/5382c973-6857-486a-84ad-90b20d6870c8

Mike

I like the way it looks, but with the way that the expansion juts out, as compared to the height of the rest of the stadium, that will take some getting used to.

http://prod.static.packers.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/imported/GB/photos/clubimages/2011/08-August/110825lambeau_dev4--nfl_medium_540_360.jpg

Looks like a Baseball Park

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Ugh. They're really going through with it...

Ugh. They're really going through with it...

... yep.

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That's gonna look so..... off.

Yeah it does look a little weird.

it look weird but it alright i guess

It's more than weird, it's ugly.

Nothing exceeds like excess.

But this is nowhere near the excess of the Dallas Deathstar. Gonna be some hardy souls sitting in them uppermost tiers.

Still a great stadium to watch football in, the sort of joint that makes a hipflask fashionable.

Yeah it does look a little weird.
Sorry mate, the term hideous comes to mind over weird.

From the US american football stadiums this is one of my favourite.
It's simple not clunky and looks like it could create a great atmosphere.
But the expansion looks terrible.

They should let that new upper tier encircle the perimeter of this stadium.

They should let that new upper tier encircle the perimeter of this stadium.

I really don't think it needs to be THAT big. Hell, this expansion is a little too much.

We'll see, the entire state wants tickets, so I think they could definitely sellout a 90,000-100,000 stadium dependably. Not a fan at the moment. It could look pretty good if they continued the series of small upper tiers around the sidelines, but I have no idea if the structure is built to take additional seating.

But this is nowhere near the excess of the Dallas Deathstar.

Explain your self.

Explain your self.

Well..... I really don't think he has to explain much.

Compare this:
http://prod.static.packers.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/imported/GB/photos/clubimages/2011/08-August/110825lambeau_dev4--nfl_medium_540_360.jpg

to this:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JzV1XJrKkpQ/TbVROllUVgI/AAAAAAAABVg/CZxGO8CFi0Y/s1600/cowboys-stadium.jpg

Cowboys is a billion dollar BEAST! What they're doin' in Green Bay right now is just adding on to what is still a pretty modest stadium.... well, as modest as an NFL facility can be.

There's nothing modest about Lambeau except the bleachers to make you think its modest. The multiple tiers of suites should tell you that. This expansion looks like the not so modest expansions colleges have been doing for years for not so modest reasons. Sorry, I don't buy it when a billion dollar corporation like the Packers try to play the modest role.

There's nothing modest about Lambeau except the bleachers to make you think its modest. The multiple tiers of suites should tell you that. This expansion looks like the not so modest expansions colleges have been doing for years for not so modest reasons. Sorry, I don't buy it when a billion dollar corporation like the Packers try to play the modest role.

You know I wasn't litterally calling it modest. I was comparing it to the other 31 franchises and what they have.

Lambeau's still the oldest and still has mostly bleacher seats, as if it were a college stadium. So I guess I should put quotes around "modest". But you get the idea.

Love the historical pictures earlier in the thread. A great example of a how a stadium can evolve and grow over decades without demolishing and starting again. When I see stadiums in England with piecemeal "stands" being demolished 10-15 years after they were built for something supposedly better it makes me wonder about owners of these clubs vision and planning for the future. Nice job!

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any new picture would be great

Are they going to call the top level the "Jet Stream seats", in honor of the 100 below gales that they will experience up there?

http://s7.postimage.org/vika4m1ez/Lambeau_Field_Stadium_Improvements_20120702_0900.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

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Are they going to call the top level the "Jet Stream seats", in honor of the 100 below gales that they will experience up there?

Or they could name it after the butt ugliest player to play for the Packers, whoever that might be;)

Or they could name it after the butt ugliest player to play for the Packers, whoever that might be;)

That would probably be Nitschke. Yikes.

http://packershalloffame.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Ray-Nitschke-VB-2.jpg

But in all seriousness, this thing has actually started to grow on me. The renders really didn't do it any justice.

I would love to see a Big Ten championship game played at Lambeau. We are not the SEC! We should play our game outside in the cold not at Lucas Oil.

I would love to see a Big Ten championship game played at Lambeau. We are not the SEC! We should play our game outside in the cold not at Lucas Oil.

Don't count on it.

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Despite most people's complaints about the new seating structure, that new video board is pretty pimp.

lovely

It's going to look so odd on television, oooff.

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Despite most people's complaints about the new seating structure, that new video board is pretty pimp.

If they did the entire stadium like this during the last renovation, it would have been awesome. But instead it looks like a hastily expanded college stadium

If they did the entire stadium like this during the last renovation, it would have been awesome. But instead it looks like a hastily expanded college stadium

Well who knows? You could see the entire stadium renovated like this.

Imagine the capacity....

Looks like a Ballpark stand /roof :)
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Looks like a Ballpark stand /roof :)
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purely agree

^^^ Also agree. Looks like an Oakland A's failure to me.

I agree with you all on the roof. If it didn't have the roof, it may look better. As it stands right now, the stands look disjointed and tacked on.

That's a good point about the roof, and I do agree that it looks tacked-on. No more tacked-on than the entirety of Soldier Field, however. (Not that two wrongs make a right, of course)

If you think about it, though, they needed to put a "back" to the top tier of stands, and they couldn't have just had a flat wall or a railing. There needed to be somewhere to mount stadium lights that previously stood there as well, so really what other option did they have but to add a roof?

I think this will look better when it is finished.

One thought... I think the screen in the south endzone is made to look small by the massive steel structure it is mounted on. From the renders it seems that the excess of this structure won't have any real purpose.

Personally, I think that if you take away excess steel from around the videoboard, the whole design of the new expansion looks less gaudy, and really doesn't look too bad.

The north endzone screen looks much bigger, even though it is exactly the same size.

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The more I see this, the less it looks right....

This has lost it's "Historic" tag in my book.

Would of been better if it had been built up to match the bowl of boxes and not stands that are so high up its going to be hard to see what is happening on the field plus in cold weather its going to be painfull with feezing cross winds

In another few years it will be just as ugly as the stadium at Penn State.

I still think that if they are able at some point to bring the third tier back around over the suites the look would really balance out. I am not sure how feasable that is in terms of construction and it wouldn't look quite as good as where they were before this addition. Also comparing this to Beaver Stadium is like comparing regular-ish apple to grotesquely deformed oranges.

they should've built an upper deck back in '03 instead of all boxes

The more I see this, the less it looks right....

This has lost it's "Historic" tag in my book.

In another few years it will be just as ugly as the stadium at Penn State.
once the façade is complete and the scaffolding is all removed it won't look so bad

It lost the Historic tag? The last reno made it not look historic at all. Brick, yes, bleachers, yes, but everything else was ultra modern. The previous look was even worse.

so high up its going to be hard to see what is happening on the field

Have you not seen the new super stadiums nose bleed seat heights?

Looked more like a HS stadium back then.

Surreal how it became one of the best modern NFL turf in the country.

Have you not seen the new super stadiums nose bleed seat heights?

Yes but think Lambeau Field is going to look higher with it being an older stadium

North endzone videoboard looks awesome. You can also see the new viewing terrace:

http://www.packers.com/media-center/photo-gallery/2012-Packers-Shareholders-Meeting/dec06232-b4ab-4b0f-8c8a-2394daac4bbb#fba2eb5c-97d6-4cb1-aaa2-e939ffd714be

http://s13.postimage.org/n5alea313/image.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

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..... baseball, anyone?

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if those stands were built all the way around the first time around it would look like Neyland

mate boston red sox there against the yankee

..... baseball, anyone?

Hahahaha! I was ready to ask where they would put the mound!

bhahahahaha

It just clicked that the new expansion is lopsided. The southwest section has five access tunnels, while the southeast section has only three. Before the stadium was only subtly asymmetrical, but now it's aggressively so. (I'm trying really hard not to use the word "ugly".)

This expansion also means that a much smaller amount of sunlight will reach the field. I'm starting to agree with the 'build a temporary stadium and start over with Lambeau' concept.

I commented way back on page one of this thread that "I loved this stadium"...

...well, not so much now. What a disappointment this new addition is. If it ran along one of the sidelines then it may have looked ok but it just looks so lopsided now.

They should've continued with the suites all round...

It's like a pretty girl who wasn't pefect, but still better looking that a lot of girls out there..... then got plastic surgery and ruined her looks.

It's like a pretty girl who wasn't pefect, but still better looking that a lot of girls out there..... then got plastic surgery and ruined her looks.

Post of the year!!!

It's like a pretty girl who wasn't pefect, but still better looking that a lot of girls out there..... then got plastic surgery and ruined her looks.

They call that, the monster. Having said that, if they could somehow do this all the way around, it might have a chance at looking good

They call that, the monster. Having said that, if they could somehow do this all the way around, it might have a chance at looking good

Maybe so. But that would mean transforming the boxes around the rest of the stadium. Personally, I say it still wouldn't look right.

Say what ya want about Soldier Field's renovation. At least ALL of the seating was designed in a modern way that matched. Lambeau's is looking more like a college stadium that didn't have enough donor funds to complete the entire building.

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not the best looking expansion, but it'll get more people to packer games which is hardly a bad thing

So when does this crime against nature actually open?

The stadium has been open since...well....way before our parents were born.

The stadium has been open since...well....way before our parents were born.
Actually, no. Lambeau Field opened on September 29, 1957 as City Stadium (II). And you knew that wasn't what I was asking about.

Actually, no. Lambeau Field opened on September 29, 1957 as City Stadium (II). And you knew that wasn't what I was asking about.

Should be done by the first home game.

Looks like all they have to really do is add seats and railing.
That'll give it about.... two weeks?

Should be done by the first home game.

Looks like all they have to really do is add seats and railing.
That'll give it about.... two weeks?
Even if it takes longer than that, they are doing an impressively quick job.

I still say it's a horrid expansion.

In an ideal world, I'd build a temporary stadium (something similar to London 2012, but with a football stadium design, at 60,000. Then proceed to remove the luxury suite skyboxes, convert the upper rim of the bowl to lower level luxury seating and expand the adhoc expansion all the way around.

Then you add 2 levels of fully enclosed skyboxes all around, not covering the 2 video boards. Perhaps another "atrium" on the other side and attempt to make the stadium fully symmetrical.

This expansion could easily be over 100,000 and could easily be all seater by then and this "temporary" stadium could theoretically be downsized, much like London's to serve a collage team or whatnot.

I still say it's a horrid expansion.

In an ideal world, I'd build a temporary stadium (something similar to London 2012, but with a football stadium design, at 60,000. Then proceed to remove the luxury suite skyboxes, convert the upper rim of the bowl to lower level luxury seating and expand the adhoc expansion all the way around.

Then you add 2 levels of fully enclosed skyboxes all around, not covering the 2 video boards. Perhaps another "atrium" on the other side and attempt to make the stadium fully symmetrical.

This expansion could easily be over 100,000 and could easily be all seater by then and this "temporary" stadium could theoretically be downsized, much like London's to serve a collage team or whatnot.


Wow. Temporary stadium? WTF?

So is this what Melbourne will do with the MCG the next time it is renovated? Build a temporary stadium while renovating?

Personally I love what they are doing to Lambeau. Why do stadiums have to be perfectly symetrical? A bit of character goes a long way sometimes.....

Wow. Temporary stadium? WTF?

So is this what Melbourne will do with the MCG the next time it is renovated? Build a temporary stadium while renovating?

Personally I love what they are doing to Lambeau. Why do stadiums have to be perfectly symetrical? A bit of character goes a long way sometimes.....

I've got no problem with asymetrical stadiums (TCU fan here), but this is LAMBEAU.

It just shouldn't happen.

Wow. Temporary stadium? WTF?

So is this what Melbourne will do with the MCG the next time it is renovated? Build a temporary stadium while renovating?

Personally I love what they are doing to Lambeau. Why do stadiums have to be perfectly symetrical? A bit of character goes a long way sometimes.....

Actually, when Melbourne was building it's Northern Stand, the old Member's Stand, Olympic Stand and Ponsford Stands were demolished bit by bit (and the new stand built bit by bit).

Capacity never dipped below 80,000 at any point.

Should the Southern Stand receive an expansion (or upgrade), then we'll see at least 50% of it's seats utilized, whilst the upper part of the stadium receives the expansion. Should it just be an upgrade, this would just see concessions and other amenities upgraded, not actual physical seating.

Vancouver did a temporary stadium (even if it was only 24,000) when BC Place was getting it's new roof. So why not do the same here on a larger scale? It doesn't even have to be fully temporary, a "temporary" stadium for the Packers could serve some other use after Lambeau Field is fully expanded.

Actually, when Melbourne was building it's Northern Stand, the old Member's Stand, Olympic Stand and Ponsford Stands were demolished bit by bit (and the new stand built bit by bit).

Capacity never dipped below 80,000 at any point.

Should the Southern Stand receive an expansion (or upgrade), then we'll see at least 50% of it's seats utilized, whilst the upper part of the stadium receives the expansion. Should it just be an upgrade, this would just see concessions and other amenities upgraded, not actual physical seating.

Vancouver did a temporary stadium (even if it was only 24,000) when BC Place was getting it's new roof. So why not do the same here on a larger scale? It doesn't even have to be fully temporary, a "temporary" stadium for the Packers could serve some other use after Lambeau Field is fully expanded.

The Packers don't even need a temporary stadium. There is the 80,000 seat Camp Randall Stadium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Randall_Stadium) 2.5 hours away.

The Packers don't even need a temporary stadium. There is the 80,000 seat Camp Randall Stadium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Randall_Stadium) 2.5 hours away.

Actually..... that sounds much better.

The Packers don't even need a temporary stadium. There is the 80,000 seat Camp Randall Stadium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Randall_Stadium) 2.5 hours away.

Well then use that venue whilst Lambeau Field gets a full makeover. Increased capacity to 100,000+.

So when does this crime against nature actually open?

It was always scheduled for the 2013 season. Although it had gone up quickly, I guess there is still a lot of interior work to be done.

Well then use that venue whilst Lambeau Field gets a full makeover. Increased capacity to 100,000+.

100,000?

What they have is perfect. Keep demand greater than supply....

The MCG is WAY to big for 99% of AFL matches throughout the year. It would be much better to have a 75,000 or even smaller capacity. 40,000 in the current stadium looks empty. 40,000 in a 75,000 seat stadium looks almost acceptable.....

100,000?

What they have is perfect. Keep demand greater than supply....

The MCG is WAY to big for 99% of AFL matches throughout the year. It would be much better to have a 75,000 or even smaller capacity. 40,000 in the current stadium looks empty. 40,000 in a 75,000 seat stadium looks almost acceptable.....

Green Bay has a waiting list of over 100,000 names for season tickets. They could have an 120,000 seat stadium with no issues. That team, out of nearly any other in the NFL should have a 100,000 seat stadium. That being said, having room for corporate boxes is far too important than getting people into the stadium.

From Wikipedia...

"The Green Bay Packers have the most famous waiting list, with more than 100,000 names. Turnover is generally low; the Packers estimate that only 90 tickets turn over every year, a rate which would mean a name placed on the list today would be eligible for season tickets in 1000 years. It is a common custom in Green Bay and other Wisconsin cities to put a baby's name on the list as soon as the birth certificate is obtained. Transfer of standing to surviving relatives is permitted by the Packers."

I've got no problem with asymetrical stadiums (TCU fan here), but this is LAMBEAU.

It just shouldn't happen.

http://net.archbold.k12.oh.us/ahs/web_class/Fall_08/Roehrig's%20Packers%20Site/web-content/Graphics/Lambeau2000.jpg

Lambeau was even more symmetrical before the atrium was added on, with the boxes and scoreboards making a contiguous circle around the bowl. I'm a little too young to remember the construction of the atrium, but did people flip out like this when they opened up the south end zone? Did they say "But this is LAMBEAU?"

I'm just saying that this extension might seem weird now, but give it some time.

The stadium is special, but I don't think putting in more seats is really going to change that character. For what it's worth it seems prudent to wait until it's completed and full of boisterous fans in green and gold before doling out harsh judgment.

Time-lapse vid:

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Lambeau was even more symmetrical before the atrium was added on, with the boxes and scoreboards making a contiguous circle around the bowl. I'm a little too young to remember the construction of the atrium, but did people flip out like this when they opened up the south end zone? Did they say "But this is LAMBEAU?"

I'm just saying that this extension might seem weird now, but give it some time.

The stadium is special, but I don't think putting in more seats is really going to change that character. For what it's worth it seems prudent to wait until it's completed and full of boisterous fans in green and gold before doling out harsh judgment.


It's not them just adding more seating. It's THE WAY they're adding more seats. It's just off.

I wouldn't think much of it if they decided to do this around the entire bowl, but just having one big endzone section that's a million feet in the air just doesn't seem to work. Some stadiums (like Soldier Field, or CenturyLink, or LP) could do this just fine and it would fit. But for Lambeau, the ballpark outfield look... I'm just not feelin' it.

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Lambeau was even more symmetrical before the atrium was added on, with the boxes and scoreboards making a contiguous circle around the bowl. I'm a little too young to remember the construction of the atrium, but did people flip out like this when they opened up the south end zone? Did they say "But this is LAMBEAU?"

I'm just saying that this extension might seem weird now, but give it some time.

The stadium is special, but I don't think putting in more seats is really going to change that character. For what it's worth it seems prudent to wait until it's completed and full of boisterous fans in green and gold before doling out harsh judgment.

Apples and oranges.

This is so completely different than the renovation from a few years ago.

And no, they didn't flip out. It was probably more like "Oh, that looks nice."

100,000?

What they have is perfect. Keep demand greater than supply....

The MCG is WAY to big for 99% of AFL matches throughout the year. It would be much better to have a 75,000 or even smaller capacity. 40,000 in the current stadium looks empty. 40,000 in a 75,000 seat stadium looks almost acceptable.....

Umm the MCG is 100,000 primarily due to the fact that it often exceeds capacity during the AFL Grand Final, which is key reason to keep this capacity, if not expand it more.

So it's half empty most times of the year (except of course finals season, the occasional major soccer match and of course major cricket matches), big deal. It's a huge capacity stadium which fits the needs of other sports too.

Having a stadium similar in size of the one in Docklands (which was built by the way to replace the aging 75,000 seater Waverley Park, at a modest 50,000 odd seats to cater the needs of smaller AFL games) Wouldn't work, unless it were a new stadium built to allow for more matches to be held in Melbourne at the same time frame.

Make Lambeau Field a 100,000 all seater stadium, the envy of of other NFL teams. Heck, for all we know, you increase capacity, temporarily lower the famous waiting list, then it slowly crawls back to what it was. So what? at least you fitted 30,000+ more peeps in the stadium.

Umm the MCG is 100,000 primarily due to the fact that it often exceeds capacity during the AFL Grand Final, which is key reason to keep this capacity, if not expand it more.

So it's half empty most times of the year (except of course finals season, the occasional major soccer match and of course major cricket matches), big deal. It's a huge capacity stadium which fits the needs of other sports too.

Having a stadium similar in size of the one in Docklands (which was built by the way to replace the aging 75,000 seater Waverley Park, at a modest 50,000 odd seats to cater the needs of smaller AFL games) Wouldn't work, unless it were a new stadium built to allow for more matches to be held in Melbourne at the same time frame.

Make Lambeau Field a 100,000 all seater stadium, the envy of of other NFL teams. Heck, for all we know, you increase capacity, temporarily lower the famous waiting list, then it slowly crawls back to what it was. So what? at least you fitted 30,000+ more peeps in the stadium.

The MCG hasn't been at capacity for an AFL game in quite awhile mate.... 86,000 is the highest for this season and won't be topped. As for the grand final, 2010 was just over 100,000, and the only game over 100,000 since the southern stand was rebuilt in 2003. So hardly sold out......Most game have been close to sell outs but not officially....

The MCG is way over built for 99% of it's usage, even cricket rarely sells out.....

Why have Lambeau at 100,000 and risk not being full? A full 80,000 seat stadium is awesome 85,000 people in a 100,000 stadium isn't what the Packers would want to see or the NFL...

The MCG hasn't been at capacity for an AFL game in quite awhile mate.... 86,000 is the highest for this season and won't be topped. As for the grand final, 2010 was just over 100,000, and the only game over 100,000 since the southern stand was rebuilt in 2003. So hardly sold out......Most game have been close to sell outs but not officially....

The MCG is way over built for 99% of it's usage, even cricket rarely sells out.....



'Officially' It would be amazing if you actually knew what you were talking about. There have been plenty of general public seating sell outs at the MCG only for the fact that MCC members don't always show up. They have that right as they have a seat reserved for themselves throughout the year.

The MCG is a great size and doesn't need to be downgraded in capacity.

The MCG hasn't been at capacity for an AFL game in quite awhile mate.... 86,000 is the highest for this season and won't be topped. As for the grand final, 2010 was just over 100,000, and the only game over 100,000 since the southern stand was rebuilt in 2003. So hardly sold out......Most game have been close to sell outs but not officially....

The MCG is way over built for 99% of it's usage, even cricket rarely sells out.....

Why have Lambeau at 100,000 and risk not being full? A full 80,000 seat stadium is awesome 85,000 people in a 100,000 stadium isn't what the Packers would want to see or the NFL...

Come'on! We all know the famous waiting list and low ticket turnover.

A 100,000+ seater Lambeau Field will always be topped. What's the point of having a waiting list if no one will use their season ticket?

'Officially' It would be amazing if you actually knew what you were talking about. There have been plenty of general public seating sell outs at the MCG only for the fact that MCC members don't always show up. They have that right as they have a seat reserved for themselves throughout the year.

The MCG is a great size and doesn't need to be downgraded in capacity.

Agreed! If anything it needs to be expanded, then we'll see it topped each year for the AFL Grand Final (and it's also to beat Sydney's temporary record for having the largest stadium in Australia, for the 2000 Olympics). :P

So, back to Lambeau....

... It should be upgraded. Completely. With individual seating as an afterthought. It should be able to happen!

30,000+ more people in the stadium is a good thing, even if in the end it just makes the waiting list even larger.

You can also boast being the biggest football stadium in the US while you're at it, heck all of the Americas.

... It should be upgraded. Completely. With individual seating as an afterthought. It should be able to happen!

30,000+ more people in the stadium is a good thing, even if in the end it just makes the waiting list even larger.

You can also boast being the biggest football stadium in the US while you're at it, heck all of the Americas.

... it's still Green Bay, Wisconsin. Not exactly the largest city in the States. It's not even second largest in their ONW state. I doubt you'll ever get 100,000+ in there, even if you do build to that capacity.

Aherm! Waiting list? What's the point of a waiting list if season ticket holders don't use their tickets?

As for general seating, I'm sure those unable to be season ticket holders will be the bulk of general ticket buyers.

Aherm! Waiting list? What's the point of a waiting list if season ticket holders don't use their tickets?

As for general seating, I'm sure those unable to be season ticket holders will be the bulk of general ticket buyers.

It's a preseason game.

... It should be upgraded. Completely. With individual seating as an afterthought. It should be able to happen!

30,000+ more people in the stadium is a good thing, even if in the end it just makes the waiting list even larger.

You can also boast being the biggest football stadium in the US while you're at it, heck all of the Americas.
Two problems here: there is no benefit to "boasting" about the size of a stadium, and NFL teams have a very strong financial incentive to sell out the stadium. About 2/3 of the revenue for an NFL team comes from TV money.

... It should be upgraded. Completely. With individual seating as an afterthought. It should be able to happen!

30,000+ more people in the stadium is a good thing, even if in the end it just makes the waiting list even larger.

You can also boast being the biggest football stadium in the US while you're at it, heck all of the Americas.

100,000 wouldn't even be in the top 5 biggest football stadiums in the US. Biggest in the NFL, yes.

Any word on how much the seats up there will cost?

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Any word on how much the seats up there will cost?

600 level are $89, 700 level are $82.

I thought they stopped making stadiums that Football and baseball teams shared


Wait what?
they did this for a football team only?

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I thought they stopped making stadiums that Football and baseball teams shared


Wait what?
they did this for a football team only?

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wait, the Giants? you think the Giants have something to laugh about from that toilet bowl they play in? :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Actually I think that is the Kansas football team...its the only good laughing football player pic i could find.

wait, the Giants? you think the Giants have something to laugh about from that toilet bowl they play in? :lol::lol::lol::lol:

I wouldn't call Metlife a toilet bowl, most toilets are lot more elegant than that.

I would call kansas' stadium a toilet bowl though... And the team that plays there is crap (hehe)

Wait nevermind, that would be a disgrace to toilets everywhere! :P

I would call kansas' stadium a toilet bowl though... And the team that plays there is crap (hehe)

Wait nevermind, that would be a disgrace to toilets everywhere! :P

Kansas....City?

Gotta be more specific there.

Kansas....City?

Gotta be more specific there.

The picture clearly shows Kansas State players

The picture clearly shows Kansas State players

No it doesn't. Those are KU players.

Yeah, Kansas U.

Wasn't looking at the picture above....

Wow , it does look as though a baseball stadium outfield mated with Lambeau.
That looks visually not pleasing on TV

Lambeau FIELD does sound more like a baseball ballpark.

Wow , it does look as though a baseball stadium outfield mated with Lambeau.
That looks visually not pleasing on TV
It was pretty strange looking, but there were only a couple of shots of it during the game. At other times there were some weird shadows on the field. And most of the time the place was so quiet, you could hear a silver trophy drop. :banana:

Here's a good video of how it looks (it's at the 1 minute mark). No one is sitting in the seats as yet.

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^^ imagine if Green Bay put someone like Lebron or Dwight Howard back there...

No it doesn't. Those are KU players.

Sorry, brain fart, that's what I meant

Thats a nice field goal off the top of the wood work. Think the upper deck stands will have poor views come late decemeber.

Nice job by the Packers to keep this historic stadium viable. A lot of great history played out on that field. You can't buy that, only preserve it and they've done a good job of growing the game-day experience, in and around the stands.

I'll take that kind of stadium any day over the corporate monstrosities in Dallas or New Jersy.

Nice job by the Packers to keep this historic stadium viable. A lot of great history played out on that field. You can't buy that, only preserve it and they've done a good job of growing the game-day experience, in and around the stands.

I'll take that kind of stadium any day over the corporate monstrosities in Dallas or New Jersy.

You do realize that even this stadium has SOME modernization and corporate influence. This isn't the same Lambeau from the 60's and it certainly shows now that they're adding on (unnecesary, if you ask me) more seats that throw the entire stadium off.

P.S., those "corporate monstrosities" are located in the 22,085,649 populated New York Metropolitan Area or the 6,371,773 populated Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex. Those are two different animals that you can't compare with tiny Green Bay, Wisconsin, where the citizens are the owners.

Thats a nice field goal off the top of the wood work. Think the upper deck stands will have poor views come late decemeber.
The goal posts are actually metal, and when the ball hit, it there was this surprisingly loud "thunk" sound. Of course, the volume could have seemed loud simply because everyone was holding their breath to see if it had the distance. Fun game (for us at any rate).

Thats a nice field goal off the top of the wood work. Think the upper deck stands will have poor views come late decemeber.

The goal posts are actually metal, and when the ball hit, it there was this surprisingly loud "thunk" sound. Of course, the volume could have seemed loud simply because everyone was holding their breath to see if it had the distance. Fun game (for us at any rate).

:lol: Don't take it literally, it just means the post. The word probably originates from the days when football (soccer) goal posts were made of wood.

Not a fan of the sport, but I replayed one part a few times: where the player catches the ball and holds it for the kicker. Amazing.

:lol: Don't take it literally, it just means the post. The word probably originates from the days when football (soccer) goal posts were made of wood.

Not a fan of the sport, but I replayed one part a few times: where the player catches the ball and holds it for the kicker. Amazing.

He tied a 42 year old NFL record for the longest field goal, and you found the hold the amazing part? I guess if you're not a fan of the sport you wouldn't have known that.

I was watching the game at home (not a fan of either team) and had a sleeping baby at home before the kick, he wasn't asleep after it. "He ain't making this <kick> Holy shit he's gonna make it! <BOOOONG> OOOOH! IT'S GOOD!"

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Nice screen capture!

The goal posts are actually metal, and when the ball hit, it there was this surprisingly loud "thunk" sound. Of course, the volume could have seemed loud simply because everyone was holding their breath to see if it had the distance. Fun game (for us at any rate).

:lol: Oh I knew that but it was late at night in the uk and was using a british term, which master_klon already posted about.

You do realize that even this stadium has SOME modernization and corporate influence. This isn't the same Lambeau from the 60's and it certainly shows now that they're adding on (unnecesary, if you ask me) more seats that throw the entire stadium off.

P.S., those "corporate monstrosities" are located in the 22,085,649 populated New York Metropolitan Area or the 6,371,773 populated Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex. Those are two different animals that you can't compare with tiny Green Bay, Wisconsin, where the citizens are the owners.

Can't believe you weren't consulted. Such a Nexpert.

What's nice about Green Bay's updating of Lambeau is that it has been a long, steady, somewhat organic process. It has added great corporate facilities but it still has put everyday fans first. The place has a lot of soul and wonderful atmosphere. So it isn't symmetrical and stylish. Neither is Fenway Park.

I went to the old Texas Stadium and enjoyed it. The sightlines were terrific, but a crap team made the atmosphere tepid. I've been to Giants Stadium and the sightlines and atmosphere were great, the Giants fans very into it.

But Jets fans I've met attending games in Buffalo deplore what's been built with the Met Life stadium. They hated the place and found it sterile and uninspiring with a lot of seats further away than the old ground.

And, of course, most Green Bay fans love the Jerry Jones Deathstar. They won Super Bowl XLV there. But a friend who went to Lambeau last year says he didn't meet any Packers fans who would trade stadiums.

Sitting in the upper reaches, the place lacks any real atmosphere and is basically just a huge, expensive room to watch a massive TV. At least it shows quality comedy each game.

Can't believe you weren't consulted. Such a Nexpert.

What's nice about Green Bay's updating of Lambeau is that it has been a long, steady, somewhat organic process. It has added great corporate facilities but it still has put everyday fans first. The place has a lot of soul and wonderful atmosphere. So it isn't symmetrical and stylish. Neither is Fenway Park.

I went to the old Texas Stadium and enjoyed it. The sightlines were terrific, but a crap team made the atmosphere tepid. I've been to Giants Stadium and the sightlines and atmosphere were great, the Giants fans very into it.

But Jets fans I've met attending games in Buffalo deplore what's been built with the Met Life stadium. They hated the place and found it sterile and uninspiring with a lot of seats further away than the old ground.

And, of course, most Green Bay fans love the Jerry Jones Deathstar. They won Super Bowl XLV there. But a friend who went to Lambeau last year says he didn't meet any Packers fans who would trade stadiums.

Sitting in the upper reaches, the place lacks any real atmosphere and is basically just a huge, expensive room to watch a massive TV. At least it shows quality comedy each game.

Even while only talking about stadiums, someone still takes shots at the Cowboys....:sleepy:

I'm not gonna argue that Lambeau may have great atmosphere. That place should. But again, those three places are all built differently, one noticably not just for football. I just can't see Lambeau with the sky-touching 3rd-4th decks like other, more modern stadiums.

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It's going to be so cold up there ...

It's going to be so cold up there ...

That won't deter any fans :)

It's going to be so cold up there ...

No colder than the top of the upper deck in Chicago.

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I'm sure the Packers fans are just as hardy to bitter cold football as Chicagoans.

With the new seats .....how many addition seats does that add? and whats the total?

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Good lord, this thing isn't done yet?

Good lord, this thing isn't done yet?
It takes time to commit a crime against nature.

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It takes time to commit a crime against nature.

I mean damn, I thought they'd at least have the seats in by now. How much slower will it be once the snow starts falling....?

I mean damn, I thought they'd at least have the seats in by now. How much slower will it be once the snow starts falling....?
They said it wouldn't be open until next season, so I don't see any reason to put in the seats until next spring/summer.

It takes time to commit a crime against nature.
With each new piece put into place, the crew looks to the foreman and asks "Are you sure? Absolutely positive?"

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In these great photos you can see nature's backlash against the project: all of the sun lamps at the south end of the field, because the grass is dying. If that doesn't work, the Packers will have no alternative but to install artificial turf.

In these great photos you can see nature's backlash against the project: all of the sun lamps at the south end of the field, because the grass is dying. If that doesn't work, the Packers will have no alternative but to install artificial turf.

Lambeau has had problems with natural light before this expansion, and they have been using this lighting system for the past couple of seasons. The grass will be just fine.

http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-1/Lambeau-Experimenting-With-Growing-Lights/50c593c2-baff-4d7a-bcbe-58c752ddb3d1

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/14/sports/football/tenderizing-the-packers-tundra-with-light-and-heat.html?pagewanted=all

I like these steeper bowl stadiums. Atleast it looks steep to me, compared to Rose bowl, Ann arbor stadium etc.

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Just a quick adjustment of the image above, as I was curious to see what the new expansion would be like as a two-tiered structure, rather than being three separate stands:

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That actually looks better. Or at least not as ugly.

Much better

Yes loads better. :applause:

That actually looks better. Or at least not as ugly.

Much better.:banana::banana:
to quote Jean-Luc Picard..Make it so! :cheers:

So much better. Thats a agradable stadium!

Much better.:banana::banana:
to quote Jean-Luc Picard..Make it so! :cheers:
I read your reference to Captain Picard, and I just had this sudden thought: what they are actually building looks like it was designed by Klingons.

I read your reference to Captain Picard, and I just had this sudden thought: what they are actually building looks like it was designed by Klingons.
LOL What's the Klingon word for sh*t?
The new addition looks terrible. Sorry Pack fans, it's totally out of character for Lambeau IMO.

It does look better RMB2007, but you have extended the new tiers too far to the left (see the tunnel for reference).