Part 1 here http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=141641

Tallest block:
http://i2.tinypic.com/orpchy.jpg


Dubai Marina Plot Map by Dubaiflo
http://www1.file-upload.net/30.04.06/v3pk9m.jpg

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Status:
Total: 220-240buildings!
116 building's right location is known.
3 building's exact location is needed.
about 90 unannounced buildings!

ok, shall we start? :)

This is the project Dubai Marina map :)
Together combining all our information I think that we can make this map with right building locations.

Maps what you find below are:
1. Dubai Marina map with areas named A-E + Jumeirah Beach Residence is marked with blue. These A-E are not official names, just to make our job easier.

2. Dubai Marina maps divided into these A-E areas: These maps shows skyscraper locations which are almost 99% correct places / verified.

3. Marina maps with approximate skyscraper locations. Help is needed with these to find right location, The locations where the building could be found is marked with rectangle with arrows. If you are in Dubai and are searching these buildings, you are likely to find the buildings inside the marked area.

4. Marina maps with "plot numbers" USE THESE WHEN TALK NEW BUILDING LOCATIONS (These are not official plot numbers!!!). These maps are here to make our job easier! If you know building's X location then just look these plot maps and find location's plot number and use it to tell where the building is. Much easier to say "I saw that the building X is in plot D-1b" than to try to describe the locations with other means "building is 250m away from other building and almost opposite the building Y...etc" well you hopefully get my point :)

Am I going to put pictures of each building into these maps? well maybe but it would be very big map, but it wouldn't be impossible, but first we need to find right locations for each building.

now let's look at these maps

http://www.tp.spt.fi/~jukarkil/uae/marina/orig_sorted.gif
Same map without red boxes can be found here (http://www.tp.spt.fi/~jukarkil/uae/marina/orig.gif).

Different Dubai Marina map can be found here (http://www.tp.spt.fi/~jukarkil/uae/marina/marina_map2.jpg)
Use this map if you have conflict with right informations or something :)
This (http://www.tp.spt.fi/~jukarkil/uae/marina/map_difference.gif) animation shows differences of these maps.

Please remember that this map is not accurate! There doesn't have to be a building in every places where they are marked in that map, and otherway, there could be buildings in places what the map is not showing.


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Maps with building locations, these can be said to be almost accurate :)
Don't be confused, I had to cut these into 5parts, there will be over 200 building names in these maps!
Buildings which are part of the Jumeirah Beach Residence are marked with JBR-, this doesn't belong to official name.

http://www.tp.spt.fi/~jukarkil/uae/marina/marina_a010.gifhttp://www.tp.spt.fi/~jukarkil/uae/marina/marina_b013.gif
Buildings in maps A&B (JBRs not listed):

A:

Belvedere
KG Tower________________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=128386
La residencia Del Mar___, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=128389
Manchester Tower________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=120521
Marina Diamond II_______, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=120499
Marina Park
Marina Pearl____________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=164974
Sheraton Hotel
Supreme Tower___________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=155088
The Jewels______________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=183520
The Lighthouse__________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=128359

B:

Al Majara_______________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=120537
Al Sahab Towers_________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=112849
ARY Marina View_________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=120516
Azure___________________, www-site http://www.bonyanemirates.com/
Cascades________________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=120502
Dreams__________________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=128393
Horizon Tower___________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=120503
La Riviera______________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=120500
Marina Mansions_________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=122198
Marina Residence________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=128375
Marina Sail_____________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=122196
The Waves_______________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=120529
Yacht Bay_______________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=207731

JBR buildings___________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=109119


http://www.tp.spt.fi/~jukarkil/uae/marina/marina_c002.gifhttp://www.tp.spt.fi/~jukarkil/uae/marina/marina_d020.gif
Buildings in maps C&D (JBRs not listed):

C:

Al Fattan Marine Towers_, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=114142
Hilton Jumeirah Beach
Marina Quays____________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=134322
Oasis Beach Hotel

D:

Al Amira Tower__________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=153758
Al Marsa Tower__________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=108932
Al Mass
Al Yass
Anbar
Bayside Residence_______, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=203817
Blakely (Park Island)___, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=217708
Bonaire (Park Island)___, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=217708
Emirates Crown__________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=149480
Fairfeld (Park Island)__, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=217708
Fairooz
Gargash Tower___________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=191360
Grosvenor_______________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=120543
Le Royal Meridien Beach Resort & Spa
Marina Diamond I________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=120499
Marina Diamond III______, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=120499
Marina Diamond IV_______, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=120499
Marina Diamond V________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=120499
Marina Diamond VI_______, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=120499
Marina Heights__________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=120495
Marina Terrace__________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=117371
Marina Tower____________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=130063
Marina View Towers______, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=168873
Marinascape_____________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=120507
Mesk
Metropolitan Beach Resort & Towers__thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=126095
Metropolitan Resort & Beach Club
Murjan
Ritz Carlton
Roshana Tower___________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=196744
Sanibel (Park Island)___, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=217708
The Torch_______________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=202878
Time Place______________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=138739

JBR buildings___________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=109119


http://www.tp.spt.fi/~jukarkil/uae/marina/marina_e010.gif
Buildings:

23 Marina_______________________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=191805
Al Seef Tower___________________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=108360
Le Reve_________________________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=108946
Mag 218 Tower___________________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=163733
Marina Crown____________________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=108936
Marina Pinnacle_________________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=126078
Najd Tower______________________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=155709
Number One Dubai Marina_________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=108942
Ocean Heights___________________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=141975



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Maps with approximate locations, help is needed :)
Different colors doesn't mean anything, it's just easier to read these maps.

http://www.tp.spt.fi/~jukarkil/uae/marina/confirm_a011.gif
Buildings:

Arshia Marina___________________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=120522
Emerald Residence_______________, www-site http://www.vakson.com/emerald/index.htm
Waterfront______________________, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=120519




Buildings without any location known:

Unnamed - "Atkins Marina Tower"_, go to own thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=126855



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now... take a deep breath before looking these maps :)

Plot name maps, use these to talk building locations. usage: The Red Letter + plot number. so for example KG-Tower is located at A-13.
Please remember that there doesn't need to be building in every marked plot area! I made these just to make plot discussion easier :)


http://www.tp.spt.fi/~jukarkil/uae/marina/numbers_a_s.gifhttp://www.tp.spt.fi/~jukarkil/uae/marina/numbers_b_s.gifhttp://www.tp.spt.fi/~jukarkil/uae/marina/numbers_c_s.gif
http://www.tp.spt.fi/~jukarkil/uae/marina/numbers_d_s.gifhttp://www.tp.spt.fi/~jukarkil/uae/marina/numbers_e_s.gif

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The End.

done.

Photos by Volker
http://i1.tinypic.com/n2g9qd.jpg
http://i1.tinypic.com/n2ga5e.jpg
http://i1.tinypic.com/n2ga6q.jpg
http://i1.tinypic.com/n2gab6.jpg
http://i1.tinypic.com/n2gaxt.jpg
http://i1.tinypic.com/n2gv9w.jpg

to continue the discussion from previous thread

I used some great shots by Sonic to analyze emaar's madness in marina...

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a8/sahmad/33487efd.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a8/sahmad/PLOT2.jpg

another one

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y215/vtalibaba/72f85dda.jpg

http://dubaiproperty.ru/pic/dubai_marina/plot_9hh_9rr/9rr_9hh.jpg

Krazy where did you get this official map from which shows the 3 plots in front of the Torch and Marina Heights.

from a german website... flo posted it way earlier...

from that russian site .. www.dubaiproperty.ru

they probably stole it somewhere else.

but this is in fact the correct map.

what i still havent figured out is why are those two plots on that map in red... are there two towers approved for those two coz we have no idea what's gonna be built htere

That map shows what i said before - the plot in front of the Marina heights is an awkward shape and I dont think they'd get a very big tower on it (unless of course they increase the size!) - not directly in front of the MH anyway.

The photo with the yellow lines is a little misleading. The other two plots, however, are big enough in my opinion ...

Indeed the fact that the Emaar sales office is being demolished may mean that TWO of these three are already sold!

Time will tell!

I wonder what "BLK" stands for ... for the plot between TT and MH. It looks big in that map and very capable of handling a 60-80F.

PLOT A5E is the biggest where the current car park is. Plot A5D is weird shape this will be fairly small.

^^ or something slim like iris blue ....9L and A5D are very similar is size and shape

just saw that trident must have bought three plots for MS..

i guess those were 2K 2L 2M before obviously.

if that's true.. they musta paid a fortune for those 3 plots... 3 of the best plots in marina

I remember there was a black and white plot map ages ago that showed a hotel in A5D and the shopping mall going from between the MH and Torch all the way back between Mag Tower and beyond.

Arfie I don't know how you can look at the blue and white map and say A5E is the biggest plot ... Krazy had a good stab at drawing the lines on the photo but it is very misleading.

^^ yea i only drew them to give us an idea of what it might be like.. i never said my drawings were to scale

Much better than I could've done Krazy! Do you know the plot map I'm on about? Showing the hotel and mall going between the towesr?

are u talkin abt the previous proposal for dubai marina.... with the extension of marina towards the right?

k here's the map Tractor is talking about.... he just emailed it to me. Interesting stuff

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a8/sahmad/027c6126.gif

^^ outdated, a3a is still one plot.

nevertheless it could be about right.
the t shaped mall, 23 marina and al seef in the back.
but more recent maps show another plot behind marina crown.

what happens to the hotel plot..well..

This is what I got told from a source in Dubai that there will be a hotel of about 13 storey in the middle and restaurants on the side.

It isn't that out-dated, the blue and white one for example just has a hand-drawn line splitting A3A in half!

Anyway, we'll see what happens no doubt. It would be a lovely place if they DO put another hotel and these facilities in there ...

I'd love to know what the 1/2 circle shape is for ... perhaps an amphitheatre?

no doubt, i would also prefer a hotel and restaurants there.
but since emaar could earn 75m $ with these plots at least... no way...

It looks to me on that B&W map that the semi-cericle is landscaping (with trees) and not a roundabout. I think this will be a hotel somehow and I also think the mall will be built. The only question to me is what will happen to the 2 side plots. If we are lucky, Emaar may sell this for use as part of Marina walk as commercial use with more restaurants and shops. I think that area needs them. Can't imagine "the tallest block on the planet" with no shops, restaurants around, yet all the other lesser towers do have.

Found this - not sure if it is old or not?


Dubai Marina Plot For Sale

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Dubai Marina Plot

Specfication: G+13
Plot number: 2R
Total Build Up Area: 139,000
Plot size: 42,795 sq ft
Price per sq ft: 748 dhs
Land Use: Residential(Allowed to use the ground floor for retailing
Plot value: 32,320,000 dhs

The plot is ready to commerse construction. The plot permitts 2 buildings on it. That is 1G+13 and 1G+2

The plot is located next to Marina Diamond.
It has a partial marina view.

Also:

DISTRICT 5
PLOT AREA: 64,973 sq.ft
BUILT UP AREA: 268,473 sq.ft
PRICE PER SQ FT: 255 dhs
PLOT VALUE: 68,460,615 dhs
LAND USE: RESIDENTIAL
FLOOR PERMITED: 21 STOREYS

no way wud district 5 plot be priced so cheap

Shall we buy it then? :)

By the way - Does anyone have any contacts with 'The Dubai Land and Properties Department'. Maybe we can contact them to find out who is buying the plots A5C, D and E ?

no way wud district 5 plot be priced so cheap

Here is the link, maybe it is for 20 year let only ?

http://www.classifiedsuae.com/details.asp?sno=6792&CatCode=29&Category=Villas&CatGroup=Real+Estate

OK.... you heared it here first.


Nakheel is planing somthing BIG [not huge but BIG] for their plot :D :D :D

tell us right now exactly what it is, your source and you will be the king of all mods

same guy that i found out about the kuwait project.


but if i ever want to return to dubai again.... i keep my mouth firmly shut!

it was 1 of 3 proposals i saw.... and it is sooooooo nice!


sorry... but i think they will anounce it before too long :)

Trident did indeed buy three plots for Marinascape, and could have put three towers there. Thank goodness their desire to promote their 'Lifestyle' image led them to only create two.....wish Emaar would take note!!! On the subject of which...Emaar was intending to sell its sales office site (Trident was interested) but has now apparently decided to develop it itself. Watch that space!

Plot 9NN is soon going to be...Grosvenor House 2. The bridge is either going to be moved or removed - as per the HOK roundabout solution. I am informed that work on GH2 is likely to start in late summer. (Sorry for the poor quality render, which ignores Iris Blue and MT) Even more of that wonderful blue lighting no doubt. :)
http://i2.tinypic.com/snjtzo.jpg

This can't be i want Infinity tower 2 as well right opposite GH2, Were there always going to be two GH towers.

DUBAI so this Nakheel proposal is it huge towers i.e in terms of height or just like a huge project???

The best would have been another twisting tower, but not for it to look exactly like infinity. I think one of those crazy ass ultra-modern types would fit there and would create one hell of an entrance. They'd be more like sister towers rather than twins :)

Which is Nakheel's plot btw?

Look at post #4 says Nakheel that area plus the sailing club is all Nahkeel and i think thats what DUBAI is talking about when he says Nahkeel are planning something big, as in marina area thats the only plot they have i think.

Does anyone actually know WHEN it will be announced what is happening with plots A5C, A5D and A5E (Plots in front of The Torch and MH)? i.e. within days, weeks or months?

Thanks

no we don't... but i would say it will definetly happen in 2006.


there was a proposal for a smaller grosvenor house behind the current one... so this has become a bigger one now :weird:

I dont' think I like the idea of 2 Grosvenor houses. Would be better to have a different design. Looks lazy and ruins the skyline.

would you say the same about al-fattan towers

I like the idea of twin towers

Twin grovenor houses don't look well together for some reason

i think the bridge still stays because if you look at that pic you can see a road rite near the extreme rite of the pic...and as much as i love the GH...2? maybe not..i mean at least change the colour or something if they are going to build the same thing.

R

I dont agree with the idea of having two GHs.... stupid.. at least come up with a different design

Krazy's rite something different pls...and pretel wat is Saudi Guy going on abt in the marina mall thread?


R

^^ no idea but it sounds awesome.

2nd grosvenor wouldn't be too bad, i loved the mini grosvenor..
but it would block its own views lol...

would you say the same about al-fattan towers

I like the idea of twin towers

Al-fattan towers look good but grosvenor does not really work as a twin.

Anyway cant keep doing twins in the same skyline really. Especially with JBR all looking the same and then 2 twins blocks. Looks unimaginative almost like a tower clone factory.

Your right twin GH will not work because the design is not right for it to be twined, But how about Twin Infinity.....

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a8/sahmad/b1c0af48.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a8/sahmad/51bb4e34.jpg

Thnaks to Krazy for these pictures....Now who can say that does not look spectacular

yeaaaa... please oh please let's build that dubai !

Twin Infinity works because it acts as a marina gate. Twin grosvenor next to each other makes me want to :puke:

"Twin Infinity Gate" sounds nice, like a science fiction movie :)

when will construction for ocean heights start??...i cant wait till thats finished!

hopefully by mid of the year..
last we heard was april..

a marina gate.. remember the advertising.. the gate?

ohh that sounds promising... a huge gate for the marina

a little skybridge anyone? :D

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y215/vtalibaba/eb2c0fb7.jpg

lol, looks good.

maybe it needs to twist too?

GH 2 :eek:

they should either make it taller or smaller but not the same size please!!

so will GH 2 be on A2AB (meaninig it's actually a plot for two towers) or is it gonna be on 9NN?

9NN, but that map isnt clear about bridges at all.

i guess we may have to wait till we have a better idea of the new bridge location. as it depends which side of GH2 the road goes.

im asuming the new GH is on the right ?

if its on the left, could be even more interesting...

ummm.. it can't be on the left. Remember Iris blue?

ah yes!

i want to draw diagrams but i dont have any programs to do it with.

Not even MS paint!

anyone know where i can download it or any other program which is small, and not ram hungry?

ask raptor.. or dazz... they are good at this kinda stuff

Try Illustrator or Freehand or Paintshop Pro .....and ofcourse there is always Adobe Photoshop

I definatly dont have the ram for those!


paint would do a treat, but i think i acvcidently deleted it a whie ago

GH2 is definitely on the right, and will be linked to GH1.

Two people who should both know what they are talking about told me the conflicting stories about the removal of the bridge, so that the road on either side terminates at a roundabout, as per the HOK plan, while the other said it would be moved. It is quite possible that no final decision has actually been made.

I personally feel that the architectural and build quality of GH is outstanding. The prospect of having an 'almost' twin alongside really should be more than acceptable.

There will have to be a bridge there.

emaar said it will be rebuilt after majority of construction is done.

it will lift.

If you look at the plan there are no bridges at all [likely done too keep it simple] this would strand quite a lot of people on an island!!!

^^ :rofl:

Sa boy also said they will rebuild the bridge this was a year ago though.

anyway.. i think they will rebuild it , bigger and higher.

and i wish they would build the small GV version...

they have to build a new one, the current one is only 1 lane each way... imagine the whole of jbr trying to get over that! :eek2:

Dubai, Flo...I think you are right, and that is what is most likely to happen. But Flo, no point in wishing for a small GH, the one in the render is what is going to be built.

Flo's original post from the GH thread...

i guess it will be there behind...!where the arrow is!


http://img197.exs.cx/img197/6088/grosvenor2location4aj.jpg

look at the 2nd render, the view must be from marina entrance,from the other side of course, where al marsa etc are. and then it is righthanded!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/dubaiflo/gros.jpg

location could be similar?

http://www.greenlakesdxb.com/04012006/index.html

here is the website it came from, if you click "contact us" then "contact details"

it has a few more pics, and clearly shows it still on offer as the smaller tower?

maybe they just decided to expand and make more money :dunno:

and it says 25F only there.
i wish it was 25F only.. :(

dubaiflyer do you know how tall it is going to be?

and i am convinced there will be a new bridge.

It looks pretty good as a smaller tower like that.

i think they should make one taller abit like the turning torso and leave the other one the same size

i found new tower like Dallah 29F ,130 Bedroom,130 wing and G ,180M
six Cubs surround al dallah 6F + G ......etc
but the problem is i dont know where its!!!

http://images3.pictiger.com/thumbs/c1/7841cf2c95ac4c696c79ae40bbeff8c1.th.jpg (http://server3.pictiger.com/img/198217/picture-hosting/-users-zohir-desktop-other-dallah-tower.php)

beach property.. maybe palm jebel ali...

The GH2 render I posted was taken from another new brochure where Archgroup are the architects, and I assume they provided it as an example of their current projects. However, Sheikh Ahmed's own web site should have accurate info, so this is a tad confusing. I will try and establish which version is correct.

I am confused - will the 2nd GH be the small or the large one?
I like the small one - looks like GH had a baby. Mother and child together.

Do you know what will be on plots 27,26and 25 near Maina view tower?

not yet launched.

dubai steve we don't know which one it will be if, but it seems like they r going to build the tall one..

Update: The Point.

Dazz can you include in 1st post :)

http://www1.file-upload.net/07.04.06/25j2in.jpg

could you make it smaller? it's quite hard to get good overview now by looking that

marina quays not labeled flo

could you make it smaller? it's quite hard to get good overview now by looking that

....As the wife once said to me. :runaway:

oh sorry i forgot the quays..
not sure if i can update it now.

anyway. dazz i thought there was a smaller version as well :weird:

i was posting the high res version on purpose along with smaller one.

can you make it smaller yourself i can't do it now...

maybe the link is dead.

....As the wife once said to me. :runaway:

:hahaha:

Or as you said to your wife ;) :runaway:

:jk:

As The Point is on the south facing side of the marina would this be the best side to catch the sun all day ???

not realy, the sun doesnt move to much in dubai.

and during the summer the last thing you want is it beating through the windows!

I can now confirm that Grosvenor House 2 will be the same size as GH1 - it will definitely not be the 'baby' version.

^^ Looks like it's mummy and daddy no baby, just hope it works well because smaller version did.

Lets just hope that they don't have any babies then! 2 is more than enough. Maybe they hould use pink lights for the new one rather than blue - for boy and girl.

I wonder what the restaurant specs will be - surely not another buddah bar clone - can only take so much sushi !

will it be hotel or residential?

if it is hotel will it be the same opperator.

another le meridien is more liely IMO.

looks like the facilities at the existing beach hotel woill be stretched if this is the case

i wonder when they will start construction on this one

there still is construction stuff around since the grosvenor has been completed

Trident told me that the plot in front of the belveder which has emaar boarding will be either a park or a mosque.

i think this could happen, but i more likely is another tower.
Trident assured me when they have bought the waterfront plot they were assured there is going to be no tower, but i don't know if it is in their contract or if emaar just told them.

just like the 15F hotel on the sales office site.

They are hoping to start construction of GH2 in the summer. The branding will still be Grosvenor House, and there will be a link between the two buildings.

However, the GH ownership and management are the same as the Royal Meridien, which has been expanding its beach facilities for the past 8 months or so to cater for GH guests.

Cool pic I found of the marina:

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/6253/carlitofarewell01156ix.jpg

~What a perspective this will be in a few years when all towers are complete! Great pic.

Marina heights looks really tall there, taller than al seef. Is everyone sure it's 208m high and not more?

try to imagine this place completed and all cleaned up
the torch and 23 marina, infinity and princess tower


so gorgeous :eek:

There's a new tower on the plot in front of Marina View Towers, right on the corner of the street. A pinky ugly one of about 25 floors. Florian took a picture of the board. (no name yet)

hi

You will get taxed if you repatriate the money from rental income. You have to account for all income in the UK including rent.
2 things you can do, offset all expenses against the income including your flights to Dubai (for inspection and maintenance OK) all your DEWA and factors fees even if you only rent for 10 weeks, it is an expense of maintaining the appartment for rent. Advertising and anything else you can think of. Keep all your receipts especially DIY purchases.

Or, open a bank account in Dubai, pay the money into it out of sight of UK tax. Manage your account online and with a linked credit card which will let you make purchases anywhere in the world including the UK. The money technically stays in UAE and would be subject to any tax that is due in that country, currently NONE! (I hope)

Easy, isn't it!

true blue

Thanks for your help

Or, open a bank account in Dubai, pay the money into it out of sight of UK tax. Manage your account online and with a linked credit card which will let you make purchases anywhere in the world including the UK. The money technically stays in UAE and would be subject to any tax that is due in that country, currently NONE! (I hope)

Easy, isn't it!


Wrong I'm afraid guys - the above suggestion is effectively tax evasion.

If you are tax resident in the UK then you are liable to UK income tax on your worldwide income - whether funds are kept in Dubai or not.

The above strategy only holds true if you are UAE tax resident.

cheers

Mission,

Tax residency is a very complex area and I don't proclaim to be an expert. It's hard to give you an answer without knowing your circumstances.

In a nutshell assuming that you are British and UK domiciled, to stop being UK tax resident you basically need to leave the UK permanently for a 'settled purpose'. Failing that, you are obligated to declare worldwide income on a UK tax return - whether remitted to UK or not.

There are other rules which affect non-UK domiciled people and offshore/sea-farer workers. Have a look on the inland revenue's website for more info.

Best change the subject back to Dubai Plot Maps before relevance police roll in......

sales centre being demolished.

http://i3.tinypic.com/vobp82.jpg

http://i3.tinypic.com/vommtc.jpg

the last bridge

http://i3.tinypic.com/vomo8x.jpg

new plot UC

the Marina Mess

http://i3.tinypic.com/von2q0.jpg

plot next to dreams boarded.

huge plot btw

http://i3.tinypic.com/von493.jpg

and which tower is that next to horizon, am i stupid :weird:
there is a board but i don't know which one it is.

http://i3.tinypic.com/von91c.jpg

FLOW.... what the fuck have you done to ssc? :dunno:


this is rediculus.

the biggest ssc update ever :ohno:

regarding the sales centre
:( :eek:

regarding your question about the tower next to horizon, it's yacht bay, finally it's growing and it's fast!!!

so there is another plot between yacht bay and horizon i see.

lol whats so special about the updates nick? :D

Great pictures flo these must oftaken you ages, driving around etc

Flo any updates on timeplace

i got one , i can tell you it is about 3F (core)

i will find ít and post it but it is probably not a good shot since i took it out of the car.

Here is IC5 UC, i can tell you this is massive.

they are building a ramp probably to access it from al sufouh next to 23 marina, this is like 300m away, so you can imagine how big it is.

http://i3.tinypic.com/vpk9zd.jpg

Cheers flo

Any updates are better than none

Flo, please add DUBAI MARINA STAR to the plot map

so now, dubai marina star, and the newly discovered one..

from the torch thread:
http://i3.tinypic.com/vypbav.jpg
now what's that construction site?

cant be marina pinnacle is it?

I think it is Marina Pinnacle. Walked by there at night after the Jamiroquai concert in Media Ciry and remember seeing the sign board.

MEDIA CITY!!!!!!! Krazy, no jokes :bash:

:cheers: :)

No, look at the photo above - the excavated basement of Marina Pinnacle is clearly visible behind the bright blue hoarding alongside the road in the position shown on Flo's plot map.
This new site is behind Marina Crown, and needs to be identified.
http://i3.tinypic.com/vzd43o.jpg

Could it be.....
http://i3.tinypic.com/vzdgcn.jpg

^^ Is that actually approved, would be a bit odd for a non approved tower to have work started

^^ I doubt that it is the tall tower pointed to as the location is quite different from that shown in the above plot map. The plot map itself is a bit deceptive as it would suggest there are only 3 plots starting with Le Reve, then M. Pinnacle, then MAG 218. In fact there are 4 plots, Le Reve, M. Pinnacle, empty plot (for shopping center), then MAG 218 plot. So one needs to mentally resize the squares to make room for a row of plots running just behind the towers lining Al Sufouh road. Looking at the plot map above, you could have 3 rows or towers (running left to right) with five plots in each row. If the squares are more accurately drawn, then you could in fact have 4 rows of towers with five plots per row.

Marina Gardens Marina Gardens :D:D:D:D

so happy you found this dazz, i had a look at the picture and did not notice the boarded site.

noooo this is not marina pinnacle you stupid boys can't u see the 30m deep excavation... ;)

Somebody HAS to check the plot! NOW!

I nominate dubai_boy.

its not that far to the marina from AD*






*in no way am i confirming the existance of AD

As far as I knew, I thought the MAG group had bought the entire plot (excluding Pinnacle of course) for 5 or 6 projects. Can't remember where I read this now.

No, MAG only has the single MAG 218 plot here. They have a few other plots scattered around like on the Palm Jebel Ali, in Dubailand, etc. I also don't think the plot referred to above is for Marina Gardens. This tower is to come up just beside the MAG 218--that is in the area between MAG 218 and 23 Marina.

Let's not get excited because we all know how reliable these developers are!

Another possibility: the old shopping mall proposal for this area?

Is there an official source online giving us the estimated completion date for Dubai Marina? I know we all say 2009-2010 but is there anything official about this?

By 2009 is supposedly what Sh. Moh'd said. That I think is about as official as it gets. ^^ Yes, it could be part of the shopping mall construction, which is not an "old" proposal. It's still current.

when and where did sheikh mohammed say this is what im asking... i know he gave 2008-09 date

i think that the only restriction is that each plot has an expirey date agreed with emmar.

once sold they have have untill that dateo begin construction or EMAAR buy the plot back and sell it on.

^^ I don't think that's good enough. To "begin" construction is not good enough for me... there should be a deadline for completion or we'll have a lot more Emad Ayoub's buying plots in Dubai. :ohno:

well to be honest i think the whole policy of having the entire marina completed by 2010 is possibly one of the stupidist development plans ever.


but there you go.

^^ why is it stupid?

they should have done it in groupings.

better towers... better quality....better designs....better pricing ....better atmosphere.

and the whole area would have lasted longer.

when and where did sheikh mohammed say this is what im asking... i know he gave 2008-09 date My information comes from what I was told by MAG PDD representatives (the GM and a Project Manager). I don't remember who they referenced, whether they were told this by Sh. Moh'd directly or by an Emaar representative (which I think is more likely). The project manager also told me that Sh. Moh'd went riding through the neighborhood once and was somewhat unhappy with the slow pace of construction--so he may have gotten word or comment directly from the Sheikh or the Sheikh's representatives.

they should have done it in groupings.

better towers... better quality....better designs....better pricing ....better atmosphere.

and the whole area would have lasted longer.


Hi

I think you are spot on everything done in a mad rush, it is crazy look
what they have done at Jumeria Residences, its like ghetto the building are
that close you could a hang washing line between them,most of the building will never see the sunlight never mind the Marina. I bet there a lot of dissapointed people there, when they move in and find out what they have
bought in a concrete jungle mass exodus rings a bell.


Fezzy :cheers:

i disagree- get the thing finished- do we want the marina to be a dustbowl and wake to the sound of machinery for the next 20 years?
but i agree we don't want the marina looking like the stalinist JBR

i disagree- get the thing finished- do we want the marina to be a dustbowl and wake to the sound of machinery for the next 20 years?
but i agree we don't want the marina looking like the stalinist JBR


Hi

By all all means I agree with you on getting it finished, i just hope they do not overbuild in that piece of the Marina, every square inch means money and they will build on it come hell or high water in my view.I do not know why, they are spending billions on it and the Sheik should want to see the overall plans of that area and put a halt to the overbuild.It has the potential to be very special and it looks like they will ruin it and make the same mistake as JBR the Stalinist commie block paradise.

I bet he 'Sheiks' his head every time he goes by in the Rolls saying, what have they done to my Kingdom,I know there are thousands of Russians living here,why did they they need to bring there building plans with them !


Fezzy :cheers:

http://i3.tinypic.com/vo7jwp.jpg

just found this photo of the boarded plot between marina pinnacle and 23marina.

Face altin we should have seen this :bash:

^^ Of course we saw it and discussed it. Middle East Foundation is working there, but still the boarded aerea looked to small for a tower.

BTW, this is exactly behind Ocean Height tower, so it will be correct to say: between Marina Pinacle and Al Seef tower. ;)

This is the new upper marina mall, right?

Would be cool if it is - surely there will be some announcement shortly?

Why the site of a multi-plot developement as the Mall, would be smaller then the site of a single tower?

I might be tomorrow in the aerea, so I might give it another look.

Its a pretty inaccesable plot for a mall...

I think a tower is more likely, unless it expands onto other plots

My guess is that its the mall - although inaccesable there will be many residents and tourists in the super talls in this area looking to buy things. I think it will expand to the other plots. Also if it is the mall then my guess is that it will then connect to a limited height hotel on the emaar plot in front of the Torch.

the problem is though... the value of this plot will mean the mall developer will have to charge massive rents which most of the major shops in dubai will balk at. leaving the hugely overpriced hotel shops to fil the mall. Not a good idea unless they can find somthing that will add to the area.

open space like phase 1 for example. but if its just 1 plot???

this is not the mall. it would be more than weird.

if it was the mall they would have boarded the whole area...

altin i am really curious if u can get some information..

http://www1.file-upload.net/25.04.06/psw6hy.JPG

from a friend.

http://i3.tinypic.com/wgzr7d.jpg

http://i3.tinypic.com/wgzrbr.jpg

they use this for marina quays construction ( the 9F tower of over the marina boulevard )
maybe this is why it took so long?


and the marina mall, weird thing, the two islands have different shapes.

restaurant island!!!:D fantastic pics!

R

Fantastic birds eye view shot Flo!
Horizon Tower has a massive lagoon pool as well as an olympic type. WOW!!! Love it!!
I wonder how the Diamonds pools compare? :dunno:

the shots are really old but they are great.

i dont see any islands... please enlighten me.

The beachside land which accomodates JBR and the marina towers from Dorrabay down to Grovenor House is an island! The construction of the marina has cut it off from the mainland.

yes, but i think he means the islands that are being built off the marina mall.

you can see they have built up a little peninsular, which i expect to become seperated... maybe...

The marina keeps getting smaller and smaller. At this rate there won't be any water left.

My understanding is that the material deposited at the Marina Mall site is purely for piling rigs to use as a land base for piles that will support high level decking. Once the piling has been completed this material will be removed fully opening up the channel again. The Marina quays are doing a similar thing. The original boardwalk on both sides will be retained. It has been protected and earth fill put over it. I believe there were some renders previously of a pedestrian bridge going from the mall to the opposite side of the marina, and for some piled island areas which as was suggested above could house a restaurant.

Excellent work on the map of the Marina. Good job!

3 new projects that have come up to add onto the map:

Sheffield Real Estates Marina 101- Just announced a couple of days ago. Probably half the building will eventually be sold to Russian/CIS individuals.

http://www.ameinfo.com/84102.html

Marina Star. Just launched this morning as seen in the papers by a company called City Tower Real Estate and Al Seef Investments.

Also, Cayan, the developers for Infinity, also launched Dora Bay

http://www.ameinfo.com/84122.html

Trident has also purchased another piece of land and will start work on that shortly. They have started an investment fund with a minimum amount of USD 100,000 and they have mentioned in the prospectus about the purchase of that land.

Look forward to seeing a complete map of the Marina.

We cant add them untill we know where they are!

and it is the mapmakers birthday, so he isnt at work.

indeed!

Excellent work on the map of the Marina. Good job!

3 new projects that have come up to add onto the map:

Sheffield Real Estates Marina 101- Just announced a couple of days ago. Probably half the building will eventually be sold to Russian/CIS individuals.

http://www.ameinfo.com/84102.html

Marina Star. Just launched this morning as seen in the papers by a company called City Tower Real Estate and Al Seef Investments.

Also, Cayan, the developers for Infinity, also launched Dora Bay

http://www.ameinfo.com/84122.html

Trident has also purchased another piece of land and will start work on that shortly. They have started an investment fund with a minimum amount of USD 100,000 and they have mentioned in the prospectus about the purchase of that land.

Look forward to seeing a complete map of the Marina.

we know all of them, however i had not time to update.

also how am i supposed to update without location ;)

but what is trident's new development? i assume it is not TGR?

Extension tower announced for award-winning Grosvenor House

Less than 12 months after the opening of the iconic Grosvenor House in Dubai, the property's owner, His Highness Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed Al Maktoum, has announced the development of a second tower for the property.

The extension, to be called Grosvenor House The Residence, will have 288 furnished suites and five waterside villas looking out over Dubai Marina, and is scheduled to open by the end of 2008.

Read rest of story here http://www.ameinfo.com/84363.html

Sorry was unsure where to put this so put it here as we discussed the issue here

here is the thread.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=8252300#post8252300
i would be interested in the exact location!

from the looks of things...its rite next to it but in front abit...

R

http://www1.file-upload.net/30.04.06/v3pk9m.jpg

Photographed last week on the plot between Marina View and Timeplace. I don't know if has already been posted.
392-264 proposed 34 floor tower.
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I took a picture of this one 4 weeks ago and posted it to the MVT thread. Looks interesting, but no name of tower?! On your pictures taken from Timeplace towards MVT I could see that there has been progress in excavation on this plot. Zetas is yet again involved in this one, they are working on lots of foundations around Dubai.

Taken 29th April 2006, just nice.
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This area's just looking better and better!

Now we just need somone to drege all the crap out of the marina, and i will be diving in for a swim!

Photographed last week on the plot between Marina View and Timeplace. I don't know if has already been posted.
392-264 proposed 34 floor tower.
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We have a thread for this, opened by Dubai_Lover

My wife and I have just spent seven days in a studio apartment in Marina Diamond 1, Dubai Marina. Had I had the financial ability to not return to the humdrum of work, I would still be there now. The apartment was ideal to use as a centre to do the usual things that you do in the desert, shop, eat, ski and was even better to observe the activity at the varying tower sites.

On the third day the weather appeared overcast as we left to visit Deira, when we returned there had been a sand storm and the results were evident. The photographs below show the before and after.

This was no reflection upon Marina Diamond, it was unavoidable and the pool was cleaned the very next day. However, with the continual construction work and sea breeze, the valiant efforts of the pool cleaners were continually tested. This together with the ever present polystyrene packaging floating in the air and the pool, raises the question of holiday lets and the realistic expectations of visitors intending to relax in the atmosphere of the Marina.

The schedule suggests activity until 2010 and some on this site have questioned the need for urgency. The sooner this project is completed and the tranquillity established that the Marina so promises, the better. This will be to the benefit of both residents and visitors.

I know this has nothing to do with the Marina map but I thought it an apt area in which to post.

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Sorry if this has been asked before, but does anyone know the approximate width of the Marina mouth opposite The Grosvenor?

i would estimate some 80m?

Thanks Flo

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I am having problems with my usual pcture host.

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Great pics, thanks very much - some views we've never seen before

As said before, fantastic pics Kevan! Really appreciate the update.

:) :) :) and here's to Kevan :cheers: !!!!!
Btw: I skied, too and it was fun!

Thanks for the pics Kevan..appreciate it...!

amazing shots.

i can see marinascape rising :)

and u can see how fairly spaced the marina actually is. even from MD1 u can get a sea view, of course some buildings are missing, but park island for example will not make it that much worse.

of course it looks dense on a map, but it is a different thing in reality.

except some towers in the tallest block..

^^ Yeah, seeing Emirates "lost it's crown" come up next to Al marsa is beginning to make me wonder if the tallest block will indeed be just that, one huge block.

Marina crown is actually the one that lost its crown

Thanks for your pics Kevan, the updates are much appreciated.

an old picture.. but what a stunner :eek:

http://www.ioannisverdelis.com/albums/2005-09-15-Dubai-Architecture/020_JBRnight.jpg

nice photo.

^^ Yeah, seeing Emirates "lost it's crown" come up next to Al marsa is beginning to make me wonder if the tallest block will indeed be just that, one huge block.


indeed marina crown has lost its crown, like samir said. but it has some great details on the facade and nice glass colour.

but emirates crown was also re designed, in fact they had a first design, redesigned, and use the first one now though.

Here are some more from the week commencing 24th. April 2006. I am not that good at id'ing what they are, Gargash...2N.... etc. If someone sorts them out and post them on the relevent site I shall then delate them fro thos thread. I am sure that someone somewhere is interested in the progress.

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Kevan, I understand the problem - thanks for posting/ reposting the pics. Number 1 is 2N Tower, number 2 is Marinascape (Avant) number 3 is Gargash and 4&5 are Marinsacape (Oceanic). It is particularly good to see the shape of the floorplate on Oceanic.

BTW, you will have noticed that there is a generic Dubai Marina 'sticky' now, where other unidentified photos and information can be posted. Thanks again for all your fine efforts.

Hi, first time visiting this forums... and this Dubai marina is amazing!!!

When is expected to finish? And this proyect how far is from the Emaar`s King Abdullah Econmic City or its the same?

Thanks!

Felipe, from México :cheers:

And this proyect how far is from the Emaar`s King Abdullah Econmic City or its the same?

Very far

Just got an email from Sheffield.... Location for Marina 101 is plot A23E (Between Marina Pinnacle and Al Seef Tower).

Please edit the plot map.

morons. they did not answer me until today.

and there u go, it probably is the plot which is already boarded.

Hello,

I am a new Dubali fan - thanks to my friend who introduced me to this fascinating city!
I am a US Citizen, originally from India, and have always dreamed of returning to India some day. Dubai presents an excellent option - being so nearby, almost at home.

I am extremely interested in buying an apartment in Dubai Marina. But I am lost - on how to begin finding avalibility and pricing. This thread has all the information on plots numbers, pictures and so on. Is there any thread which has discussion on pricing and current availibity of apartments in these towers? Or do I have to call individual builder and fina that information? In such case, is there any website whioch has a consolidated information of all the towers, builders and their contact info?

What would be the best approach?

Thanks in advance.

I'm afraid the best way is the long way to make sure you get everything you want. You could start by ringing around agents/developers asking for prices and as much info as possible about the various towers. It's not a simple case of comparing prices (Dhs/sq.ft) as some apartments offer views, although as the Marina is very dense, its never guaranteed.

Do some research about the companies you like in particular and only purchase when you are 100% about the company/project in every detail. Apologies for keeping it brief but this thread is for Marina Plot related issues only...pls refer to the investors thread for further info/questions.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=280373

^^ rolemodel answer. :)

mzsky, welcome to the forum.

the marina offers a lot of oppurtinities, always remember to buy from a reasonable developer, and keep the location and view in mind.

Somebody please give Naz a job on this forum. He'd make a very very reasonable post monitor.

Indeed rolemodel answer...

Thanks for the help. The other thread for inverstors is very generic about Dubai, and not about Dubali Marina specifically. Since we have special project level threads - like this one on plots, it will be worthwhile to start a thread on pricing, availbility, views, who purchased at what price, etc for this project...

I will keep looking for the strating point elsewhere...

Thanks.

Since we have special project level threads - like this one on plots, it will be worthwhile to start a thread on pricing, availbility, views, who purchased at what price, etc for this project...



i do think that this thread, along with the general dubai marina thread, and along with the investors thread is far enough to fullfill the needs of interested buyers.
remember this is a skyscraper forum.

Somebody please give Naz a job on this forum. He'd make a very very reasonable post monitor.


r u crazy :runaway:

Somebody please give Naz a job on this forum. He'd make a very very reasonable post monitor.

only after he has taken something for his verbal diarrhea. :)

his posts are way too long....

only after he has taken something for his verbal diarrhea. :)

his posts are way too long....


Maybe its just me but I find Naz's posts informative, esp. for newbies and at times interesting and colourful, he/she obviously feels very passionate about this city and its developments so a little verbal diarrohea is not a bad thing on a public forum like this. :)

Now back to the topic - where can I get a link to the latest marina plot map - as there have been some approved developments and I would like to see how the developments are layed out in the Marina, appreciate any info on this.

I wanted to gauge whether the Marina is becoming too overcrowded, not necessarily a bad thing, look at the developments around Central Park in NY and Canary Wharf in London, as long as there is some central tranquility like water of grass in the middle of the chaos.

the marina is crowded, but not too dense maybe.

i think it is ok.

and if it is reeeeaally that difficult to find the plot map:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=332478

here :sleepy:

http://dubaiproperty.ru/pic/dubai_marina/plot_9hh_9rr/9rr_9hh.jpg

Does anybody know if there is any buildings planned for plot OS-2 (map posted on 29th March) ?
This is the plot between Bayside Residence and Time Place towers.

As discussed earlier, we believe OS stands for open space so no there shouldn't be anything on this plot.

Saturday morning speculation. This masterplan map seems to be pretty accurate on the whole, with the phase 1 towers, the DEWA substation and plot numbers shown accurately.

I have put a bit of green where the known designated open spaces are, just to make them obvious. However, the crescent and central section of the supertall block have no map designation, and I am speculating that they will be landscaped open space too.

The bridge position, I think, will have to follow the outside line of the Grosvenor Residence on 9NN and 10D on the other side of the marina entrance. This will need to be a higher bridge than at present to allow larger yachts under it.

Finally, plot BLK1 between The Torch and Marina Heights.... There has been speculation that there might be another tower built here, but this unique designation stands out in the same way as the Open Space 'OS' ones do. If it were to be a building plot it would follow the A5A, A5B pattern.

Having considered what the alternative abbreviations might be, my conclusion is that this is likely to be a large BALLPARK, or kids recreation area. That is certainly something that is needed because other than the beach, there doesn't appear to be anywhere else for them to run around and play.

Any other thoughts?

http://i4.tinypic.com/105vc52.jpg

a while ago there was talk Emaar's skatepark will be relocated.

maybe it is this plot..

i am still pretty much convinced a mall will be built somewhere in the tallest block area though.

Personally, I don't think so Flo, not now Marina 101 is taking one of the centre plots. I feel confident we will see more supertalls built alongside.

Also, the Marina Mall will be enormous, and being so centrally located will be within easy walking distance for the whole marina. (BTW when I was there in March, I noticed that there is a tunnel beneath the road that I assume will provide easy access for JLT too.)

There are already many shops, restaurants etc at the base of the phase 1 towers and they will be added to as the other towers are finished. They provide really good, 'on the spot' convenience facilities. I can't see why another Mall would be needed, particularly when Ibn Battuta and Mall of the Emirates are also so close by.

However, the Emaar skate park is more than likely going to be on BLK1.

(Flo, forgive me for asking but what is the 'Wii' about?)

Is there a masterplan for the Marina? If so; is it a top secret?
Can anybody at the municipality be asked such questions?

From all the discussions, I get the impression that if any plans exist
then they must be very fluid.

The marina definitely needs more open spaces, greenery and outdoor recreation facilities. I hope to God that Emaar see sense and develop something of the above on their own plots (A5C,D,E).

There is no way it will be a skate park or ball park :rofl:

It would suck if another supertall was to rise right in front of infinity....

I am pretty sure there will be a tower in front of infinity on plot 10D

^^ Maybe that 93 floors black tower, also called Infinity ...

^^ Not another "will be/won't be" supertall infront of supertall scenario! :bash: Dammit guys! Change the f**cking record!!! Its the Marina..its got around 200 tall towers...space is tight....so get over it..some towers will enevitably be built in front of others.

^^ Not another "will be/won't be" supertall infront of supertall scenario! :bash: Dammit guys! Change the f**cking record!!! Its the Marina..its got around 200 tall towers...space is tight....so get over it..some towers will enevitably be built in front of others.

There is a lot of speculation in property investment, including what's going on in the neighbourhood.
Is it just you he is allowed to swear on this forum or is it open season!

I think it should be OK to postulate. :jk:

You want another supertall ... maybe in some plots near ... you know what. Give this bloke a call:

http://i4.tinypic.com/106cz7p.jpg

:runaway:

10D is a massive plot size, maybe even a hotel, being so close to sea.

a nice plot in DM will cost you 30m $ only :cheers:


i do think there will be another mall in the tallest block, we will see.


anyway, 10D will be built up, i have no doubt on that.

same with the A5C/D/E.


(Flo, forgive me for asking but what is the 'Wii' about?)

Nintendo Wii, the best console in the world.

www.nintendo.com :D that will be so much fun.

even for an old guy like you :runaway: ;)

^^ ps3 for me..prices got released the other day..£425 phew

can someone call that number and find out which plot he's advertising?

http://www.nakheel.ae/cm/media/developments/palm-jumeirah-masterplan.jpg

the nakheel area in the masterplan is apparently only a marina for the palm.

Flo, you cheeky monkey! :tongue2:

SSC is all the excitement I can take at my age :old: ...This is my 'console', and I really enjoy playing this 'grown up game' with so many intelligent, perceptive kids! The rest of my time, as you will undoubtedly find in years to come, is just work and sleep! Nintendo?...when I am a grandad maybe!

Naz...not a BaLlparK eh? What's your interpretation of the site's designation 'BLK1' when it is surrounded by 'A's then? BTW aren't you delighted at the prospect that there might not be anything built between TT and MH?

In any event Flo,...I'm not really THAT old :wink2:

EMAAR Sales Center is fully demolisched now, BUT they have extended the boarding across the road to the empty space between Marina Height and The Torch, blocking the road that use to run from the small fountain between them and the Sales center, ending in front of Emirates Crown.

This confirm that whatever will be build on A5C & A5D will be in the same complex with the BLK1.

that would go with what i was told, a complex with shared podium.

"complex with shared podium" gives me the impression of a commercial development rather than residential....

is the car park boarded up yet?

^^ NO.

The Emaar representative told me that there will be a small building with retail space also. There could be around 4 small towers in total ( well I hope they're small for Torch purchasers sake)

Sounds like it could be mall hotel combo with another small tower or 2.
An announcement from Emaar must be imminent. I might call them this week to see what going on.

Any word yet when the new building is going to be located?. It is being developed by Dheeraj and East Coast

could this be the answer to the mystery surrounding the old emaar sales office plot???

Emaar unveils Nuran Serviced Residences
[Sunday, June 4, 2006 1:17:00 pm]

http://www.ameinfo.com/images/news/6/26206-nuran.jpg
Nuran Al Majara at Dubai Marina.

Emaar Properties has announced its latest subsidiary as part of its ongoing expansion into new markets and sectors. Nuran Serviced Residences is the developer’s latest offering in the leisure and hospitality sector and will deliver premier fully-serviced residences in world class locations onto the Dubai property and hospitality market.

Nuran Serviced Residences are set to make their market debut at three of Emaar’s most popular developments. First to be released onto the market is Nuran Al Majara at Dubai Marina, followed by Nuran Al Alka Residences at The Greens and The Residences at Burj Dubai Downtown.

“Emaar is looking forward to introducing world class leisure and hospitality projects onto the market. With the emergence of Nuran Serviced Residences, Emaar is delivering world class lifestyle options with luxurious, fully furnished and fully serviced residences in some of Dubai’s most prestigious locations and providing the Dubai real estate market with even greater depth,” said Esther Wai, General Manager, Nuran Serviced Residences.
Contemporary in design in an intimate environment with attention to detail that is characteristic of all Emaar properties, Nuran Serviced Residences will add another dimension to Dubai’s high end property and hospitality market that is set to be the lead choice among senior management and professionals in search of the ultimate home-away-from-home in luxury urban lifestyles.

Featuring first class facilities such as luxury swimming pool, state-of-the-art gymnasium and located within Dubai’s most sought after property hot spots, Nuran Serviced Residences will be a leader amongst the many.

R

^^ Or maybe this is some of the phase 1 towers repackaged ?


Nuran Serviced Residences has been revealed as Emaar Properties' latest subsidiary, as the property firm expands into the leisure and hospitality sector. Nuran Serviced Residences are set to be established at three of Emaar's developments. First to be released on to the market is Nuran Al Majara at Dubai Marina, followed by Nuran Al Alka Residences at The Greens and then The Residences at Burj Dubai Downtown.

http://www.nuran.com/index.asp

I'd agree with you dubai steve it sounds like they just repackaging by unsold apartments or one's they kept for this reason.

Hi guys,

Took this one on 30/5/06. Couldn't see from the Marina plotmaps which building this is. Any ideas (sorry I was too lazy to cross the road to read the sign!)

There was quite a lot of activity when I was there including piling.


http://i5.tinypic.com/11qjs7q.jpg

looks like it's plot 9M... definitely not TGR or Royal Oceanic.... I have no clue what this could be!

can you see the signboard in front?
somebody needs to check it, because there is a render on it and all the info we need

It should be the 40F Habtoor Office tower, that was recently launched. The location matches. ;)

an office tower in marina?

"... Al Habtoor is investing Dh300 million in another commercial tower in Dubai Marina.

Located opposite the Al Habtoor Grand Hotel, the 40-floor Al Habtoor Business Tower will create 230,000 square feet office space ..."

From the same article where they anounced the supertall in Business Bay. Flo was even asking if we can open a thread for this tower.

I thought Marina was strictly residential. This has to be it then... you can start a new thread since we have press confirmation, location and a picture of the site

wait until we have confirmation of what's going on in front of habtoor grand
we should check which project it is

i also think it is the habtoor.

somebody needs to check. the signboard looks promising :D

could this be the answer to the mystery surrounding the old emaar sales office plot???

Emaar unveils Nuran Serviced Residences
[Sunday, June 4, 2006 1:17:00 pm]

http://www.ameinfo.com/images/news/6/26206-nuran.jpg
Nuran Al Majara at Dubai Marina.

Emaar Properties has announced its latest subsidiary as part of its ongoing expansion into new markets and sectors. Nuran Serviced Residences is the developer’s latest offering in the leisure and hospitality sector and will deliver premier fully-serviced residences in world class locations onto the Dubai property and hospitality market.

Nuran Serviced Residences are set to make their market debut at three of Emaar’s most popular developments. First to be released onto the market is Nuran Al Majara at Dubai Marina, followed by Nuran Al Alka Residences at The Greens and The Residences at Burj Dubai Downtown.

“Emaar is looking forward to introducing world class leisure and hospitality projects onto the market. With the emergence of Nuran Serviced Residences, Emaar is delivering world class lifestyle options with luxurious, fully furnished and fully serviced residences in some of Dubai’s most prestigious locations and providing the Dubai real estate market with even greater depth,” said Esther Wai, General Manager, Nuran Serviced Residences.
Contemporary in design in an intimate environment with attention to detail that is characteristic of all Emaar properties, Nuran Serviced Residences will add another dimension to Dubai’s high end property and hospitality market that is set to be the lead choice among senior management and professionals in search of the ultimate home-away-from-home in luxury urban lifestyles.

Featuring first class facilities such as luxury swimming pool, state-of-the-art gymnasium and located within Dubai’s most sought after property hot spots, Nuran Serviced Residences will be a leader amongst the many.

R

that is part of the al majara complex..guys look at the rendering and the name...

True about this one but the implication was that if Emaar are now seriously getting into Serviced Apartment then possibly they will be developing the old sales centre area for a similar scheme.

Fits well with the rumuors of mid-size towers and excellent location for serviced flats.

flo can u update the map wit marina wharf?

That Habtour Office tower was like a futuristic version of Madina tower in JLT. I drove there last night.

cool, can't wait to see it.

i will samir. do we have a map?..yeah well.probably.

yea it's between the point and marina promenade

An aerea boarded near Roshana Tower:

http://i5.tinypic.com/13zv9z6.jpg