Ulpia-Serdica
December 20th, 2011, 02:27 AM
I tend more to a clear NO to this hideous thingy. :cripes:
How can you claim you are geil with such a statement? :ohno:
How can you claim you are geil with such a statement? :ohno:
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View Full Version : PARIS | Projects & Construction Ulpia-Serdica December 20th, 2011, 02:27 AM I tend more to a clear NO to this hideous thingy. :cripes: How can you claim you are geil with such a statement? :ohno: brisavoine December 30th, 2011, 10:02 AM I have added the Eiffel Tower on Ericparis's render of La Défense in 2018, to give an idea of dimensions. One Eiffel Tower stands between the Tours Hermitage and the Tour First. The other Eiffel Tower stands next to Tour Phare. They are both at real scale. http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/9418/ld2018.png samoen313 December 31st, 2011, 02:47 AM The Hermitage Towers are so, so very top-heavy. Does this not bother anyone else? Perhaps if one or the other or both were rotated, it would look more, eh, more pleasing. But as it is they look like two drunks about to totter into one another. I've been a bit shocked for quite awhile by the enthusiasm behind these two and the reservations behind Tour Phare. BUT that's just me. Jex7844 January 4th, 2012, 01:48 PM A very good find by Clery, please make yourself heard & spread the word...! http://notrecourbevoie.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/49567_tours-hermitages.jpg?w=128&h=300 Guys, here's a poll, please give your opinion by ticking either: Pour (in favor of) Contre (against) Ni pour ni contre (nor in favor nor against) HERE (http://notrecourbevoie.wordpress.com/2012/01/03/sondage-pour-ou-contre-les-tours-hermitage-plaza/) Many thanks to you all... Jex7844 January 6th, 2012, 03:17 PM For those who hadn't seen the video before: video/xj324a_reamenagement-de-la-place-de-la-republique_news Minsk January 6th, 2012, 07:26 PM Manuelle Gautrand Architects completes origami-inspired office building in Paris A stone’s throw from the Arc de Triomphe and Place de l'Etoile sits the latest work of Parisian architect and former WAN AWARDS winner Manuelle Gautrand. The marble-effect skin encloses the new home of Barclays Headquarters in the French capital, bathed in natural light which permeates through the double layer of glass and thin, printed panelling. Manuelle Gautrand Architects originally intended to utilise ‘real’ marble in the construction of this daring street-facing façade, however opted for marble-patterned, screen-printed glass in order to operate full control over the aesthetics, prevent decrystallisation of overly-thinned marble slabs, and to ensure that the tones within the panels blended seamlessly with those of the neighbouring buildings. The symmetrical panels were created in an ‘open book’ format and fade in hue from a darker strip in the centre of the façade to lighter, more delicate tones on the peripheries. This project is not a new build but a spectacular transformation of an existing structure, with a striking new extension to the rear. The additional volume has been inserted between two courtyard gardens and clad in a textured concrete façade. At the moment this concrete was poured, a crosspiece pattern was placed in the bottom of the form in order to achieve a thin and graphic texture. The façade was then coated in a holographic glaze to add a colourful aesthetic to the interior courtyard. Located in a luxurious area of Paris, this renewed commercial building is comprised of high level offices, a welcoming lobby area, cafeteria, six meeting rooms, underground parking facilities, a courtyard garden, and a gardened rooftop. Due to the prominent, overlooked site location, Manuelle Gautrand Architects approached the rooftop design as a fifth façade and therefore ensured that all roofs were either accessible or pleasing on the eye. The practice has also been careful to align the building’s new form with the HQE standards (High Environmental Quality), fitting all fourteen criteria outlined by the NF bâtiments tertiaires - Démarche HQE®. These include the operation of a construction site with minimal environmental nuisance, the harmonious relationship of the building with its immediate environment, acoustic comfort, and the selection of sustainable products and construction methods. http://static.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/18580_1_man1.jpg http://static.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/18580_4_man4.jpg http://static.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/18580_6_gau2.jpg http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=18625 Jex7844 January 7th, 2012, 01:17 PM Pics taken yesterday by our comrade Milo: MAJUNGA: http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4375/m6jan12a.jpghttp://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR19YooWqAUqLBfEUsxnxhMl-hozO2ANOExRSJM-p4FYvQ6MGF1cA D2: http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/207/d26jan12b.jpghttp://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRsc-ZUYrLTj8XfznOZETQ-_PUQ5n74CcoDoj8pxnBM0izYVuvv CARPE DIEM: http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/3522/cd6jan12d.jpghttp://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSmBBDL1rtYX4CEn-B_1LCOouSL_dUx8MeJBOR5X9QskdhStnwidw brisavoine January 9th, 2012, 12:31 AM The population living in 2009 in the 1,572 km² around Paris's Notre Dame cathedral compared to the population living in the 1,572 km² of Greater London. The Parisian figures come from the 2009 census whose results were released just last week. The two maps are at the same scale. Enjoy! http://i40.tinypic.com/24kz8g3.png brisavoine January 9th, 2012, 12:47 AM The evolution of the population in the 1,572 km² of Paris and the 1,572 km² of London since 1931. http://i41.tinypic.com/2dtunvb.png Rue Quincampoix January 10th, 2012, 12:07 AM The new restaurant at Opera by Odile Decq http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-A-7C84_gYKo/Tm-M1R2iVLI/AAAAAAABAIE/Ri6w7jFLDRw/s1600/0.jpg Rue Quincampoix January 10th, 2012, 12:13 AM for people who likes records http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/01/05/the-worlds-most-visited-museums/ A video about the new department of Louvre dedicated to islamic arts http://complexitys.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/04-panneaux.jpg http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16416471 Rue Quincampoix January 10th, 2012, 12:18 AM more about the Louvre http://complexitys.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/9-La-cour-Visconti-le-24-aoñt-2011.jpg http://complexitys.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/15-montage-de-la-structure-couvrante.jpg http://complexitys.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/30-la-couverture-de-la-cour-Visconti.jpg Rue Quincampoix January 10th, 2012, 12:21 AM A new building with bambous by Monica Donati http://www.lecourrierdelarchitecte.com/upload/article/article_2655/04(@CamillaPongiglione)_B.jpg http://www.lecourrierdelarchitecte.com/upload/article/article_2655/01(@CamillaPongiglione)_B.jpg More infos (in french) : http://www.lecourrierdelarchitecte.com/article_2655 Minato ku January 12th, 2012, 12:59 AM Beaugrenelle mall (15th arrondissement). http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%203/DSC16219.jpg The area, Beaugrenelle also called Front de Seine, the famous cluster of high-rises near the Eiffel tower http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC39177a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC39189a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC39191a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC39193a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC39196a.jpg Minato ku January 12th, 2012, 01:33 AM Gare de Lyon railway terminal, renovation and extention of the Hall 2. http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/GaredeLyon2.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC38985a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC38990a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC38993a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC38997a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC38999a.jpg Inside http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC38956a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC38965a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC38967a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC38969a.jpg Minato ku January 13th, 2012, 11:08 PM Dominique Perrault: Citylights - le campus du pont de sèvres Internationally-recognized french architect Dominique Perrault has redrawn plans for the Pont de Sèvres towers in Boulogne-Billancourt, france with 'citylights', a scheme to transform and re-urbanize the western suburb of Paris. stripping the old façades of the pre-existing towers, the design features a double layer skin that alternates between transparency and silver shades, providing a rhythmic effect to the highly geometric structures. http://www.designboom.com/weblog/images/images_2/erica/524/citylights01.jpg Situated close to the Seine, the buildings are a composition of three towers which each serve asthe main bodies or 'petals' in the layout. Hexagonal volumes terminate at different heights, creating a visual effect similar to an organ flues assembly. Working with the original proportions and identity of the architecture, the new facade design features a 'bracelet' treatment which work with oblique creases and folds. The finish multiplies the reflections on all perspectives, providing vibrant and light-filled bands all around the buildings. http://www.designboom.com/weblog/images/images_2/erica/524/citylights03.jpg In order to provide more connection at the natural ground level, the elevated entrance of the towers is brought back to the same level of the city. The lobby links up the buildings on three levels, offering a generous space for meetings and exchanges. Within nearly 70,000 m2 of office floors, additional programs such as restaurants, cafeterias, a fitness club, a travellers' lobby, intercompany nursery and more are offered throughout. http://www.designboom.com/weblog/images/images_2/erica/524/citylights05.jpg http://www.designboom.com/weblog/images/images_2/erica/524/citylights09.jpg Pont de Sévres today http://www.designboom.com/weblog/images/images_2/erica/524/citylights02.jpg Site and context http://www.designboom.com/weblog/images/images_2/erica/524/citylights12.jpg ... http://www.designboom.com/weblog/cat/9/view/18578/dominique-perrault-citylights-le-campus-du-pont-de-sevres.html Ulpia-Serdica January 15th, 2012, 09:59 PM A video about the new Islamic Art department of the Louvre (in French) VIo5pF62YD4 Feanaro January 16th, 2012, 06:02 AM A video about the new Islamic Art department of the Louvre (in French) VIo5pF62YD4 Great for the Louvre! Jex7844 January 16th, 2012, 04:11 PM It seems that the cladding on thsi doesn't match the renders.... I was confirmed yesterday that the ugly light blue panels were well & truly covered in plastic films. The EPADESA principal private secretary & communications director Dominique Boré http://assets01.businessimmo.com/system/datas/6199/portrait/88573-boredominique2-1.jpg?, said to me that the final color will actually be 'Bleu Outremer', which corresponds to this: http://www.lafanechere.com/588-137-home/terre-pigment-bleu-outremer-30-ml-des-freres-nordin.jpg 'Bleu outremer' Therefore, the final color will be that visible in the darker panel below: http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5103/sdc12381n.jpg That's good news then :). tikiturf January 16th, 2012, 06:54 PM ^^ Indeed, it's very good news. Thanks a lot Jex :D Feanaro January 17th, 2012, 05:08 AM Majunga Tower soon at ground level! http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5258/majunga.jpg Forum PSS (http://www.pss-archi.eu/forum/viewtopic.php?id=27659&p=36) Indy G January 17th, 2012, 11:51 AM ^^ No obligation to go to another site to see pictures : Majunga MAJ de cet après-midi : http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/5435/redimensionnementdep101.jpg Carpe Diem : http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/457/redimensionnementderotas.jpg http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4821/redimensionnementderotal.jpg http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/5665/redimensionnementderota.jpg Eqho : MAJ de cet après-midi : http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/5435/redimensionnementdep101.jpg http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/5435/redimensionnementdep101.jpg http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/5435/redimensionnementdep101.jpg Everything is here : http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=787 R.T. January 17th, 2012, 01:19 PM for people who likes records http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/01/05/the-worlds-most-visited-museums/ A video about the new department of Louvre dedicated to islamic arts http://complexitys.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/04-panneaux.jpg http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16416471 It's absolutly stunning. Simple, beautiful. Axelferis January 17th, 2012, 03:21 PM how much does cost this extension of Louvre? Jex7844 January 17th, 2012, 06:57 PM ^^ Indeed, it's very good news. Thanks a lot Jex :D You're welcome tikiturf ;). Ulpia-Serdica January 17th, 2012, 07:25 PM how much does cost this extension of Louvre? 100 millions € http://images.wikia.com/entertainment1/images/7/74/Dr_Evil.jpg Jex7844 January 17th, 2012, 11:11 PM Presentation of the last 4 finalists Manuelle Gautrand: http://www.lemoniteur.fr/media/IMAGE/2012/01/17/IMAGE_20120117_16244151.jpg.pagespeed.ce._4D9aAc1OI.jpg Snohetta: http://www.lemoniteur.fr/media/IMAGE/2011/09/22/IMAGE_20110922_15362137.jpg Valode & Pistre: http://www.lemoniteur.fr/media/IMAGE/2012/01/17/IMAGE_20120117_16244160.jpg Big: http://www.lemoniteur.fr/media/IMAGE/2012/01/17/IMAGE_20120117_16244136.jpg http://www.batiactu.com/images/normal/20120117_184827_map.jpg http://www.lemoniteur.fr/155-projets/article/actualite/871904-les-projets-du-futur-complexe-europa-city-presentes-au-public?16244139=16244136#16244139 I like Big's a lot, that of Snohetta as well, and Manuelle Gautrand's is worth it too. Ulpia-Serdica January 17th, 2012, 11:16 PM I got say all of them are the best but my favorites are Gautrand and Valode & Pistre. hseugut January 17th, 2012, 11:48 PM stunning .. Gautrand and big ! Minato ku January 18th, 2012, 12:16 AM My favority is BIG, more urban and more open and integrated on its surrounding, it includes pedestrian streets and plaza. The second is Gautrand, interresting design but the integration is not so good. Snohetta project seems too much like the usual suburban mall, maybe more beautiful but still very car dependant and not well integrated. About Valode and Pistre, honestly I don't see how it will look like. Sacré Coeur January 18th, 2012, 12:45 PM Some more renders about Europa City here (http://www.batiactu.com/edito/europa-city---quatre-grandes-signatures-internatio-31033.php). Axelferis January 18th, 2012, 12:50 PM Snohetta is too ambitious for the actual economic context. Too futurisctic and i won't surprised if it's the most expensive project. BIG will be the winner imo :) Valode & pistre is :down: :ohno: Is it this one which will be a commercial center for Roissy passengers? I heard about a "auchanville" ? Clery January 19th, 2012, 12:16 AM Some more renders about Europa City here (http://www.batiactu.com/edito/europa-city---quatre-grandes-signatures-internatio-31033.php).Thanks for this. Snoheta's proposal of a ski resort cracks me up. It makes me think of Dubai. Personally I'm really seduced about Big and Gautrand proposals. Both look like awesome places to go to. 009 January 19th, 2012, 01:17 AM gautrand and big are awesome Feanaro January 19th, 2012, 05:20 AM Some more renders about Europa City here (http://www.batiactu.com/edito/europa-city---quatre-grandes-signatures-internatio-31033.php). It could be a new Disneyland when we see the size of the project and his fonction! ory26 January 19th, 2012, 11:11 PM gautrand and big are awesome I'm agree, but with a little preference for BIG:) tikiturf January 19th, 2012, 11:18 PM Yeah, me too, I love BIG, I like Gautrand's project too but, the BIG's project looks awesome ! ParadiseLost January 25th, 2012, 01:38 AM Wow I didn't expect to find the Paris thread all the way over on the second page. Let me fix that ;) The London and Paris threads are supposed to be the most active. Myster E January 25th, 2012, 01:58 AM Phnom Penh, Paris and London in that order are the most active and viewed. Don't know why the first is more viewed that the latter 2 unless two threads have been merged. Feanaro January 25th, 2012, 05:00 AM Carpe Diem Tower http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6289/cd24jan12c.jpg Majunga Tower http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/7093/m24jan12a.jpg D2 Tower http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/1079/d224jan12c.jpg Forum Gratte-ciel français (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=787) hseugut January 25th, 2012, 11:21 PM http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xe4nih_paris-vu-du-ciel-de-yann-arthus-ber_news?start=7#from=embed Clery January 26th, 2012, 12:23 AM http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xe4nih_paris-vu-du-ciel-de-yann-arthus-ber_news?start=7#from=embedThe images are nice, but the music chosen by the City Council is desperately awful. :ohno: A music such as this one would be better imho: 6G_DBI3ei2Q Minato ku January 26th, 2012, 02:48 AM Jean Nouvel to renovate train hub in heart of Paris By Bryan Pirolli | January 23, 2012 http://i.bnet.com/blogs/austerlitz-vue-sous-halle-avec-commerces.jpg PARIS – The historic train station, Gare d’Austerlitz, is on board to be renovated by Jean Nouvel starting this year. The 600 million euro project, designed to upgrade the station and its surroundings, is projected to continue through 2020. The Gare d’Austerlitz is one of Paris’s six main train stations. Originally built in 1840, it serves two metro lines, one Paris regional rail, and multiple national trains to the southwest of France. With 23 million passengers per year, the SNCF, France’s railway company, hopes that the new train station will not only facilitate transportation via new high speed lines, but also rejuvenate the neighborhood. Christian Brézet, director of the project spearheaded by the Gares & Connexions, a branch of SNCF in charge of developing 3000 French stations, shared details with SmartPlanet. During the renovations, traffic will continue across the railways. Buildings dating to the 1860s, classified as historical monuments since 1997, will be preserved and integrated into the new design, conceived by architects Jean Nouvel and Jean-Marie Duthilleul. For example, 200 million euros will be dedicated to renovating the glass roof in the grand hall where hot air balloons were manufactured during the 1870 siege of Paris. The current train station is not the easiest to navigate. Brézet said that a large part of the renovation will be opening up and easing transportation within the station itself. “The renovation of the station will integrate the development of a system that will increase travelers’ comfort and also aid in finding their way in the station,” he said. Improved access to train platforms, including new escalators and hallways, should make navigating the often confusing station easier. Plans also include reorganize the courtyards, creating a grand staircase towards the river, easing access to the adjacent hospital and offering better roads for light traffic including taxis, bikes, and pedestrians. Construction crews will also destroy several SNCF buildings currently on the site in favor of new office buildings and green spaces. More than just easing transportation, Nouvel and his team hope to rejuvenate the neighborhood around the train station, which is located on the bank of the Seine. The adjacent Jardin des Plantes and Natural History Museum are important landmarks but few people are drawn to the streets around the Gare d’Austerlitz. The renovation will eventually draw new stores, cafés, and businesses into the neighborhood. “One of the principal objectives of the renovations is based on the idea of creating an Austerlitz quarter, a train station quarter,” Brézet said. While the stairway towards Avenue Pierre-Mendès France should be constructed as soon as 2013, many plans for the new station remain long-term. Gare d’Austerlitz will welcome a new high speed TGV train to Lyon by 2025, making it an even more important transport hub. Brézet said that SNCF is hoping for 50 million travelers per year by 2030, thanks in part to 15,000 more suburban trains. Certain plans are still undefined, but Brézet said that as part of the Grand Paris urban expansion project, the Gare d’Austerlitz could be a connection point for the new line linking the airport at Orly. “Different propositions are being studied and discussed by the public to consider different ways to connect with the Massy-Orly line, creating a Parisian antenna for this new network,” he said. http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/global-observer/jean-nouvel-to-renovate-train-hub-in-heart-of-paris/3153 Feanaro January 26th, 2012, 04:58 AM The images are nice, but the music chosen by the City Council is desperately awful. :ohno: A music such as this one would be better imho: 6G_DBI3ei2Q Great!!!!:banana: Jex7844 January 26th, 2012, 06:25 PM That video puts me off...It's supposed to promote the capital? A few others things have not been shown, like Paris's extreme filth, the growing delinquence in many places (Champs Elysées among others, The Halles...), most of Parisians's constant antipathy & so forth. Ca aussi, c'est Paris!;) Munwon January 26th, 2012, 08:19 PM I thought French people were white? Great!!!!:banana: Axelferis January 26th, 2012, 09:33 PM The second video which is to promote paris is disapointing and oriented :ohno: I don't like this "urban street ghetto aspect" .Yes paris is cosmopolite i like it for this.But london,Nyc also are cosmopolites. I don't like all the savages talking on this video with surely, a criminal or gangster past. :down: I prefer the first one that i posted one year ago in the thread "London Vs Paris: the match" :lol: Paris is great, beautiful and had to reformed concerning its geographical limits which are the most ridiculous for a super rich megapole city like it. parcdesprinces January 26th, 2012, 09:50 PM ^^ It seems you didn't understand the implied reference to the original video ;) Here it is: xf9uho_duck-sauce-barbra-streisand-clip-of_music Jex7844 January 26th, 2012, 09:52 PM Yesterday at noon: Carpe Diem http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/2301/007rlv.jpg Majunga http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/3293/001gfw.jpg D2 http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/8225/008wd.jpg Eqho http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8891/017peg.jpg parcdesprinces January 26th, 2012, 11:08 PM ^^ Axel is black, Kony ! ;) (so nothing racist in his statement, I guess he simply doesn't like the thugs) PS: That doesn't mean I share his opinion about the guys on the video, not to mention that this video is a kind of tribute to the Duck Sauce one. kony January 26th, 2012, 11:12 PM ^^ Axel is black, Kony ! ;) Being black does not give him any immunity from writing racist silly statements... In fact it makes this even worse ! What he wrote is insulting...and it's not becoz it's not written by a white or whoever that it is less insulting. Why should i discriminate my indignation depending on the color of his skin ? All thug-looking guys are far from being gangsters or criminals Axelferis January 26th, 2012, 11:20 PM ^^ It seems you didn't understand the implied reference to the original video ;) :lol: I understood WELL the reference! I just mean that even with this little wink to this song the mix of the mise en scene of our compatriots in this video don't make me laugh because some guys there (well known like patson from jamel comedy club , some rappers, china (working for the grand journal on canal+ daughter of dee dee bridgewater), andré manoukian ,pierre lescure (former director of canal+) etc... doesn't suit me. :dunno: But the idea was good @Kony :lol: i'm black like pdp said you! You are just ridiculous! I have the right to call a person who has thug past case at police a savage no? You are just ridiculous. Please read better before commenting :lol: l Just look at skyrock radio gangsta rappers on youtube and see that i'm not far from reality :| i call a gangsta a person who drive in paris in his 4X4 with a gun on him and this city has plenty of those guys near champs elysées Welcome to paris! :lol: kony January 26th, 2012, 11:41 PM Axelfery, read your pm Axelferis January 26th, 2012, 11:45 PM i answered you ;) i maintain that this video contains too craps guys & friends of criminals . It doesn't suit me and it's only my opinion. Everybody owns his. i prefered a lot this that happens all summer season Quai54 paris international basketball tournament :okay: i love it! TDDdBR3UcUI Minato ku January 26th, 2012, 11:51 PM Some pictures of Forum des Halles deconstruction. http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC39632a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC39566a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC39568a.jpg This is how it used to be. http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC18347.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC18349.jpg brisavoine January 27th, 2012, 07:48 PM Greater Paris seen from the International Space Station. About 10 million people live in this view. http://i43.tinypic.com/kp151.png Axelferis January 27th, 2012, 07:56 PM quel gâchis! What a unification urban potential... hseugut January 29th, 2012, 12:09 PM http://pergame-shelter.blogspot.com/2012/01/les-arts-de-lislam-sous-une-nappe.html Jex7844 January 30th, 2012, 11:04 PM Dans le cadre du chantier de l’Hôtel 4*, dans la nuit du 30 au 31 janvier, entre 1h00 et 4h00, un transport exceptionnel va livrer sur le site du futur Hôtel 4 * à Courbevoie, (à l’entrée de La Défense, en contrebas de la tour CB21), un engin de chantier pour la réalisation de fondation (véhicule de 30m, 4m de large, 115 tonnes en charge). Un itinéraire de déviation sera mis en place par la rue Louis Blanc, la rue de Bezons, et l’avenue Gambetta. Vinci sera présent jeudi soir au comité de suivi de chantier de l’Epadesa pour faire le point sur ces travaux http://www.claude-vasconi.fr/projets/defense/def01b.jpg This actually means that another construction is about to start in La Défense :banana:. http://www.ladefense.fr/actualites/travaux/travaux-de-derniere-minute-hotel-4/ Axelferis January 30th, 2012, 11:08 PM excuse me jex but i don't understand your excitement for this project :? It is good but it 's just a small project and not change the face of LD imo. i like it but it's not a revolution. I will be dazzled the day when big skyscrappers will start. Jex7844 January 30th, 2012, 11:24 PM It's not a major project I know, yet, I like it. Its ship shaped design is really interesting & I'm statisfied to see such a project happening rather than a common & crap building. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Appel en référé contre Mme Benouna. Publié le 30/01/2012 | Laisser un commentaire En date du 23 décembre 2011, la société LOGIS-TRANSPORTS a sollicité l’autorisation d’interjeter immédiatement appel du jugement prononcé par le Tribunal d’Instance de Courbevoie. Le 27 janvier 2012, la Cour d’Appel de Versailles a rejeté la demande d’appel en référé de LOGIS-TRANSPORTS contre Mme B., résidante des DAMIERS INFRAS. LOGIS-TRANSPORTS est donc déboutée de sa demande. Le sursis à statuer de Mme B. est confirmé. http://vivrealadefense2.wordpress.com/ Jex7844 February 2nd, 2012, 01:37 PM The first visit of the future construction site Masséna-Bruneseau, where towers up to 180m tall will be erected by 2017, took place on wednesday. http://www.lefigaro.fr/medias/2012/02/02/f8c94cd8-4d88-11e1-b1ca-953dd1fff1a5-493x328.jpg http://www.lefigaro.fr/assets/infographie/120202-paris.jpg Full article in french (http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2012/02/02/01016-20120202ARTFIG00501--paris-le-xiiie-va-encore-prendre-de-la-hauteur.php) There's also an interesting poll! Estimez-vous que Paris doit accueillir des tours de 180 mètres de haut ? ( Do you think that Paris must welcome 180m tall towers?*) Please make yourselves heard! ;) * in key places, not all over the place of course HERE (http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2012/02/02/01016-20120202QCMWWW00479-estimez-vous-que-paris-doit-accueillir-des-tours-de-180-metres-de-haut.php) Jex7844 February 2nd, 2012, 07:52 PM By A.G. Photographe: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7153/6725003701_38244c5771_b.jpg charpentier February 2nd, 2012, 11:43 PM http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6170/6197067423_49ec8c17ed_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lyes92/6197067423/) Sunset sur la Défense (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lyes92/6197067423/) par Christophe Bailleux Photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/lyes92/), sur Flickr Thread All about Paris (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=779398&page=30) ;) Jex7844 February 3rd, 2012, 12:31 AM I so agree with you...I've never understood why they leave First's top in the shade, it really disturbs me...:ohno: Hopefully, they'll fix this 'nonsense' in the future. Axelferis February 3rd, 2012, 01:01 AM it's not skyline thread here :lol: 13th arrondissement is a good place to make something with heights. Indy G February 3rd, 2012, 10:04 AM ^^ If you have another one like that, keep it for yourself please, this is a thread to promote projects and constructions in Paris, not for trolling. Jex7844 February 3rd, 2012, 03:55 PM Some more renderings available on the architect's website: http://www.atelierslion.com/#/fr/URBANISME_ET_PAYSAGE/0 PS: Indy might have his reasons to 'lecture' Axelferis, but on this particular argument, & from my point of view, there wasn't anything bad from Axelferis...That's all for me. Back to the topic :). Rue Quincampoix February 7th, 2012, 10:11 PM New Police headquater in Clichy http://fabiennebulle.com/IMG/jpg/20-__MG_6818.jpg http://fabiennebulle.com/IMG/jpg/90-__MG_6153.jpg more to see : http://fabiennebulle.com/projets/article/commissariat-de-securite-publique Rue Quincampoix February 7th, 2012, 10:14 PM The Cité du Cinéma is almost finished (Saint Denis) http://www.leparisien.fr/images/2012/01/18/1816584_a8fbd3e8-4166-11e1-8941-00151780182c.jpg Minato ku February 7th, 2012, 10:23 PM New Police headquater in Clichy Don't forget the "sous Bois" for "Clichy-sous-Bois" or some people will believe that you speak of the other Clichy, "Clichy la Garenne" as its full name. When you only type Clichy in google map, you will see "Clichy la Garenne" mostly called "Clichy". http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/Clichy.jpg Clery February 8th, 2012, 12:06 AM New Police headquater in ClichyIt's nice to see you back Rue Quicampoix. That police HQ is very interesting, thanks for sharing it. It's a very interesting project. On one side, it's actually very pretty and warm, on the other side, it's well-protected and shows that the neighbourhood around isn't necessarily cheerful with the police. It's located in a neighbourhood with a lot of construction around, but I'll do my little Minato ku for once. The area lacks of retail stores. Waffenmetzer February 8th, 2012, 08:30 PM http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=88156613&postcount=3314 http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=88175445&postcount=3316 http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=88168320&postcount=3315 I like what I'm seeing in this thread. :cheers: Rue Quincampoix February 8th, 2012, 11:52 PM Milo92 took some pictures of Vuitton Foundation for Arts by Frank Gehry http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/6418/bb5fev12b.jpg more to see : http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=237422&page=8 @Clery ;) Rue Quincampoix February 8th, 2012, 11:54 PM Social Housing by Dietmar Feichtinger in Paris http://ad009cdnb.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/1327605252-08-facade-nord-part-2-1000x703.jpg http://ad009cdnb.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/1327605242-07-facade-nord-west-angle-624x1000.jpg To get more informations : http://www.archdaily.com/202986/social-housing-in-paris-dietmar-feichtinger-architectes/ Minato ku February 9th, 2012, 12:30 AM It's located in a neighbourhood with a lot of construction around, but I'll do my little Minato ku for once. The area lacks of retail stores. They don't know this face of me in the international forums but it is true trhat I often complain about the lack of retail stores. :lol: It is far to be the only thing missing in Clichy-sous-Bois, unfortunately. ______________________________ They began the destruction of "Buffet de la Gare" building for the big renovation of Austerlitz railway terminal. (see post 3293 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=87915488&postcount=3293) or 2686 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=76448257&postcount=2686)) http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC40301a.jpg Matthieu February 10th, 2012, 03:27 PM Can I get a share of these "social housings"? parcdesprinces February 11th, 2012, 11:08 AM Progress of construction of the new Stade Jean Bouin in Auteuil (winter 2012): Location: Paris, Ile de France Name: Stade Jean Bouin (Reconstruction) Tenant: Stade-Français Paris, Rugby Capacity: 20,000 seats (51 suites) Opening: March 2013 (under construction) Architects: Agence Rudy Ricciotti, Lamoureux & Ricciotti, BERIM, Thermibel, jointly with the CSTB (expertise & study) Cost: €169M (100% Public: City of Paris) 7,400m² of commercial/entertainment areas + 1,000m² of office spaces inside the stadium Renewable energy (photovoltaic cells: 2,800m²) Rainwater collection system Project: http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/367/14927copie.jpghttp://img17.imageshack.us/img17/345/8943copie.jpg http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/6510/02agencerudyricciottico.jpg http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4020/01agencerudyricciottico.jpg http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/9400/03agencerudyricciottico.jpg ----- Construction (including pics of the BFUP - Ultra High Performance Fibre Reinforced Concrete - cladding & roof panels) : roof panels http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/5620/photo006webcopie.jpghttp://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3104/201106172902webcopie.jpg http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/1206/dsc0032p.jpg http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2544/dsc0026qu.jpg facade panels http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/5492/10ckaysercopie.jpg http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/7751/11leongrossecopie.jpg http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/79/12leongrossecopie.jpg http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/18/dsc0062ds.jpg ----------------- http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8961/jb01copie.jpg http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2780/jb04copie.jpg http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/2631/jb03copie.jpg http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6625/jb02copie.jpg http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4532/20120127jb3.jpg http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/6774/20120127jb5.jpg http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/5949/20120127jb7.jpg http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/7456/20120127jb12.jpg http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6779/20120127jb13.jpg http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4207/20120127jb14.jpg http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/7237/20120127jb19.jpg http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1250/20120127jb20.jpg http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8476/20120127jb21.jpg http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/1865/20120127jb22.jpg http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4071/20120127jb23.jpg http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4248/20120127jb24.jpg Leon-Grosse.fr (http://www.leongrosse.fr/srt/leongrosse/home) & renover.jeanbouin.free.fr (http://renover.jeanbouin.free.fr) http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/5750/logosfp.gif More renders, pics and video in the "FRANCE - Stadium and Arena Development News" thread ("Stadiums and Sport Arenas" section): Posts #804 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=40518864&postcount=804), #913 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=51317085&postcount=913), #1186 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=75814379&postcount=1186), #1253 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=80030440&postcount=1253), #1322 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=83508389&postcount=1322), #1358 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=85402760&postcount=1358), #1369 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=86094411&postcount=1369) & #1405 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=88188493&postcount=1405). Odoaker February 11th, 2012, 01:46 PM Amazing! javosp February 12th, 2012, 11:30 AM wow!! Ulpia-Serdica February 12th, 2012, 05:53 PM This stadium is so stylish! Clery February 13th, 2012, 12:29 PM Once built, the Parc des Princes will really look poor beside. Maybe it's time to finally add a cladding to the structure ? :) Axelferis February 14th, 2012, 06:33 PM just add the cladding won't solve the whole problem of this stadium. It is outdated. qatarians will soon unveil their plan to leave this stadium. Clery February 14th, 2012, 06:44 PM just add the cladding won't solve the whole problem of this stadium. It is outdated. qatarians will soon unveil their plan to leave this stadium.You may be right, but the stadium acoustic is just amazing. That's the major reason why PSG fans didn't want to move to the Stade de France back in the 90's. Axelferis February 14th, 2012, 07:00 PM we won't make the debate here but acoustic is not taken in count by Financial fair play :lol: parcdesprinces February 14th, 2012, 07:39 PM You may be right, but the stadium acoustic is just amazing. That's the major reason why PSG fans didn't want to move to the Stade de France back in the 90's. +1 ! BTW I was one of those fans who didn't want to move to St-Denis back then. Nowadays, I don't really care but I will be a bit sad if this (48K) stadium becomes a white elephant, especially considering the cost of the 20K brand new Jean Bouin stadium just nearby (€170M, 100% public funding :mad:)... Axelferis February 14th, 2012, 09:05 PM do you prefer PSG stays under the level of emirates,allianz,velstins,turin,Lyon,marseille,lille?? It's time to think what 21st century is in term of stadiums & arenas. parcdesprinces February 14th, 2012, 09:22 PM do you prefer PSG stays under the level of emirates,allianz,velstins,turin,Lyon,marseille,lille?? honestly, I don't care, because you know PSG is not me nor a part of me, so I don't feel the need to compare stadiums, clubs or whatever in order to prove myself & to others I have a life. Anyway, you know, I don't follow football much anymore, and since a while now (for example , last time I watched a full footy match on TV was during the RSA 2010 WC I believe). But, indeed, I still like sporting infrastructures, for what they are, but I really don't care where they are located. I mean, when I like a stadium for its design etc , then I go to attend a game there (or a stadium tour) wherever it is located, as simple as that. Indy G February 17th, 2012, 11:06 AM Ministry of Justice will have it's own tower in Paris. By Renzo Piano, 160m. With Justice, no place for joke, this is serious (no Shard, no gherkin, no Talkie Walkie, no freedom, just Justice (Judge Dredd's one) Des grands rendus sur BatiWeb http://cdn.batiweb.com/i/actualites/19617/Vue_de_jour.JPG http://cdn.batiweb.com/i/actualites/19617/Vue_depuis_parc.JPG http://cdn.batiweb.com/i/actualites/19617/Vue_aerienne.JPG http://cdn.batiweb.com/i/actualites/19617/Vue_de_nuit.JPG http://www.batiweb.com/actualites/architecture/laudacieux-projet-du-futur-palais-de-justice-de-paris-15-02-2012-19617.html parcdesprinces February 17th, 2012, 02:12 PM qatarians will soon unveil their plan to leave this stadium. Well, here is a scan I made for you from the last France Football paper, where we can read that the Mayor of Paris asked juridical informations in order to forbid Paris St-Germain FC to still use the term "Paris" in its name, if the team leave the Parc des Princes i.e. the City of Paris (I also read somewhere that the Paris City Hall has planned the same thing about the Eiffel Tower representation on the PSG logo)... So IMHO, the Qatari are going to think twice before leaving this stadium and the City of Paris, because if they have bought this Club its because of the image of Paris which is very important for them in their global communication plan., so if they no longer can use the Paris name & image (& the representation of its most famous monument on the PSG logo), I think it will ruin their plan/goal and they certainly won't be very happy on that matter. We also can read in this article that Mr Delanë, the Mayor of Paris, is responsible for the cancellation of the Classico match (PSG-OM) which was planned to be played at the Stade de France: It will finally be played at the Parc des Princes, as wanted by the Paris Mayor/Paris City Hall, owner of the Parc des Princes... So, 1st round: Delanoë 1-0 Qatari :D http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/5126/francefootballmardi14fv.png South Central February 17th, 2012, 02:26 PM Ministry of Justice will have it's own tower in Paris. By Renzo Piano, 160m. With Justice, no place for joke, this is serious (no Shard, no gherkin, no Talkie Walkie, no freedom, just Justice (Judge Dredd's one) This is the Paris court, not the ministry of justice which will stay Place Vendôme ;) Jex7844 February 17th, 2012, 02:27 PM A new tower whose architect is to date not known, will be officially unveiled next month at the MIPIM in Cannes. The tower (180m/44 floors), will be built in the 13th arrondissement near the Bibliothèque François Mitterrand. Works will last 2 years & a half & are due to start late 2013/early2014. :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guys, I've created a thread yesterday regarding Renzo Piano's Courthouse: HERE (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=88624984) Indy G February 17th, 2012, 03:40 PM This is the Paris court, not the ministry of justice which will stay Place Vendôme ;) Oops sorry, that's true (but not totaly only a small part of the Ministry of Justice is in Vendôme. The bigger part is actually in the 15th arrondissement et will go to Porte d'Aubervilliers en summer 2015 in a low-rise called Millénaire 3 (architects : Kohn Pedersen Fox Architects). http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/3121/photoleministredelaju07.jpg http://www.arseginfo.fr/Actualites/fichearticle/?id=2826-%22Le+minist%E8re+de+la+Justice+installera+ses+services+centraux+porte+d'Aubervilliers%22 Axelferis February 17th, 2012, 04:04 PM @parcdesprinces->this is the reason why we are so weak when comes the question of European competitions :ohno: Everytime politics produce a waste of time by complexifying everything :madwife: What is this country where every simple case finishes in a juridic courtyard?!!!! What delanoe knows about football to not understand the ambitions presented there? paris need a stadium sufficient to generate a lot of cash. financial fairplay coming .We see a lot of brits clubs having difficulties wheras producing big merchandising. I hope qatarians will maintain pressure to have what they want: a new emirates or allianz like. for the cité juduciaire it is a big project of 160m ok but why this blocky style again? Justice is a serious thing but when you decide to erect a 160m building in paris why again this angle,blocky iteration? it's not a contradiction to give a "little" style to a highrise.Even for justice. Feeling of 60-70's urban mistakes Clery February 17th, 2012, 08:28 PM the Mayor of Paris asked juridical informations in order to forbid Paris St-Germain FC to still use the term "Paris" in its name, if the team leave the Parc des Princes i.e. the City of Paris (I also read somewhere that the Paris City Hall has planned the same thing about the Eiffel Tower representation on the PSG logo)...Qataris should take them to their words. The City of Paris has more to lose than the club in such a ridiculous fight. No matter the legal name, Paris will always be Paris. Jex7844 February 17th, 2012, 10:48 PM The 'Tour F' is part of the french Pentagone project (work to start soon). Its transformation is drawing to a close. Next summer the other tower under renovation ('Tour A') will also be delivered. Tour F, before: http://www.batiactu.com/images/normal/20120217_164413_tour-f-avant.jpg Tour F, now: http://www.batiactu.com/images/normal/20120217_164313_tour-f-gs-aia-24.jpg http://www.batiactu.com/images/normal/20120217_165933_tour-f-gs-aia-37.jpg http://www.batiactu.com/images/normal/20120217_170711_tour-f-gs-aia-00b.jpg It's even more impressive in the flesh...I just love it :okay:. The french Pentagone whose construction is to start soon will stand just behind 'Tour F'. http://www.batiactu.com/edito/tour-f-a-balard---une-reconstruction-reussie--diap-31327.php Minato ku February 17th, 2012, 11:14 PM ^^ They did a good job for this building. My parents met here. Jex7844 February 24th, 2012, 01:49 AM /xl7bmq_les-halles-cote-chantier-episode-1_news /xofuv4_les-halles-cote-chantier-n-2_creation# Jex7844 February 25th, 2012, 08:34 PM http://www.lexpress.fr/pictures/236/121070_l-architecte-nicolas-michelin-montre-le-31-mai-2011-a-paris-la-maquette-du-futur-ministere-de-la-defense.jpg For the time being that's only a no man's land but very soon, the site will be buzzing with activity. After months of admin procedures, the kick off has just been given for one of the greatest constructions of the last decade[...] 'Hexagone' thread HERE (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=86658456) Full article (http://www.leparisien.fr/paris-75/paris-75005/c-est-parti-pour-le-balardgone-25-02-2012-1877108.php) B890bT February 25th, 2012, 09:32 PM that "pentagon" building is incredible,:applause: I wish the MoD here in England could build such a building but it would probably be built 5 years late and 3 times over budget:gaah: Winged Robot February 26th, 2012, 09:21 AM Nice update videos on the Les Halles project, but I was hoping they'd show some aerial shots of the construction area. It's a massive redevelopment project and a few overhead images would have definitely help put things in perspective. caserass February 27th, 2012, 09:46 AM that "pentagon" building is incredible,:applause: I wish the MoD here in England could build such a building but it would probably be built 5 years late and 3 times over budget:gaah: lol, it's the same in France... mark my word ;) dino2010 February 27th, 2012, 10:58 AM http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6170/6197067423_49ec8c17ed_b.jpg WOW! Jex7844 February 29th, 2012, 09:42 PM 21 DAYS TO GO! On 21 march 2012 will be unveiled the new lighting scheme of Paris' tallest office tower: the Tour Montparnasse. Initially planned in june 2011, it was finally posponed owing to technical issues. From march 21st, the lighting scheme (permanent & evolving), will take place every evening & will be different according to the seasons. Reminder (trials): video/xfz7f4_tour-montparnasse-futur-eclairage-de-prestige_creation Full article (in french) (http://www.emd-net.com/actu/2012/02/16/eclairage-la-tour-montparnasse-revele-une-nouvelle-scenographie-lumiere-inedite) Jex7844 March 6th, 2012, 01:06 PM By Kiki Kong: IWfnyVCyfS8 brisavoine March 7th, 2012, 02:35 AM Today was the greatest day in the life of the 320m (1,050 ft) Hermitage Towers project. According to Le Figaro, the three buildings permits have been officially issued by the public authorities. :banana: Nothing can stop the project anymore. Even if the Socialists come back to power in May, they can't block the project now. Of course, there will be some legal challenges against the building permits in the courts initiated by opponents of the project, but in general legal challenges against building permits rarely succeed, and I imagine that for such an iconic project the public authorities have taken extreme care to make the building permits legally impeccable (that's why the issuance of the building permits was postponed from January till now). The only thing that can stop the project now is if the Russian developper becomes discouraged with the length of the judicial proceedings and decides to call it quit, but so far they show no sign of calling it quit, quite the opposite! The other good news announced today is the last tenant of the Damiers d'Infra building who refused to leave has finally left, so Hermitage can start asbestos removal work in this building. Hermitage says asbestos removal work will start on March 15, which will be the real start of the demolition-construction of the tallest towers in the EU. :happy: The article from Le Figaro: Permis de construire validé à la Défense Le Figaro 6 mars 2012 Le projet des tours jumelles Hermitage Plaza (320 mètres) à la Défense a franchi une nouvelle étape aujourd'hui avec la délivrance du permis de construire, mais reste en attente d'un accord pour pouvoir lancer des travaux de démolition, a-t-on appris auprès du promoteur. Le PDG du Groupe Hermitage Emin Iskenderov a affirmé à l'AFP qu'il comptait lancer le 15 mars "des travaux préparatifs de construction", avec le désamiantage de l'immeuble Damier Infra à Courbevoie (Hauts-de-Seine) - sur l'emprise duquel se trouveront les tours jumelles - une opération rendue possible par le départ vendredi de la dernière locataire des lieux. "La deuxième étape, ce sera la destruction. Nous sommes en train de finaliser un protocole d'accord avec des copropriétaires du Damier de Champagne et du Damier du Dauphiné pour pouvoir le faire", a précisé M. Iskenderov qui espère pouvoir engager les démolitions fin 2012. [...] http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-eco/2012/03/06/97002-20120306FILWWW00525-permis-de-construire-accorde-a-la-defense.php sgroutage March 7th, 2012, 03:30 AM del Jex7844 March 7th, 2012, 05:06 PM 14 DAYS TO GO! Tests: YfkDFWVuyGY By Pastor Rue Quincampoix March 8th, 2012, 11:13 PM Social Housing by L. Paillard in Paris 18 http://louispaillard.com/content/news/L.Paillard-Caillie-Paris-75-7.jpg http://louispaillard.com/content/news/L.Paillard-Caillie-Paris-75-5.jpg Godius March 8th, 2012, 11:21 PM http://www.lexpress.fr/pictures/236/121070_l-architecte-nicolas-michelin-montre-le-31-mai-2011-a-paris-la-maquette-du-futur-ministere-de-la-defense.jpg For the time being that's only a no man's land but very soon, the site will be buzzing with activity. After months of admin procedures, the kick off has just been given for one of the greatest constructions of the last decade[...] 'Hexagone' thread HERE (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=86658456) Full article (http://www.leparisien.fr/paris-75/paris-75005/c-est-parti-pour-le-balardgone-25-02-2012-1877108.php) Interesting architecture, I think I'll follow the developments about this project. Jex7844 March 9th, 2012, 01:33 PM Late april, FIRST tower will get signed twice. Indeed, 2 neon signs will be installed on the facade, the first one for Ernst & Young will be in the middle of the tower, & the second one at the top for Euler Hermes. On that occasion, a new lighting scheme (LED) will be put up late april to animate the tower's top. The multicolored lighting will therefore put the top of the building in relief & will enable the creation of patterns. Last but no least, our french Spiderman Alain Robert will be climbing FIRST(legally this time :lol:) to promote the tower. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7061/6783495540_b81dacc5ca_b.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7187/6929616487_9e9ba42e74_b.jpg Pics by Eric Constantini http://www.defense-92.fr/lesnewsdeladefense.html Ecological March 9th, 2012, 03:50 PM that "pentagon" building is incredible,:applause: I wish the MoD here in England could build such a building but it would probably be built 5 years late and 3 times over budget:gaah: Built in 2003. http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/images/localpeople/ugc-images/275784/Article/images/13135280/3100075.png http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/GCHQ-doughnut.jpg/800px-GCHQ-doughnut.jpg brisavoine March 9th, 2012, 08:16 PM En anglais, from Foster and Partners' website. Hermitage Plaza granted Permis de Construire Foster and Partners March 7, 2012 Hermitage Plaza will create a new community to the east of La Défense, in Courbevoie, that extends down to the river Seine with cafés, shops and a public plaza at its heart. The project incorporates two 320-metre-high buildings – the tallest mixed-use towers in Western Europe – which will establish a distinctive symbol for this new urban destination on the Paris skyline. The result of a close collaboration with the planning authorities: EPAD, the City of Courbevoie, Atelier de Paysage Urbain and Département de Hauts-de-Seine, the project is intended to inject life into the area east of La Défense by creating a sustainable, high-density community. The two towers accommodate a hotel, spa, panoramic apartments, offices and serviced apartments, as well as shops at the base. The buildings face one another at ground level. Open and permeable to encourage people to walk through the site, the towers enclose a public piazza which establishes the social focus. As they rise from an interlocking diamond-shaped plan, the towers turn outward to address views across Paris. The angle of the façade panels promotes self-shading and vents can be opened to draw fresh air inside, contributing to an environmental strategy that targets a BREEAM ‘excellent’ rating. The highly efficient diagrid structure uses less steel and emphasises the elegant proportions of the towers. A crystal-shaped podium building contains office space, with two detached satellite buildings housing a gallery and auditorium that further extend the public realm. The piazza – created by burying the existing busy road beneath a landscaped deck – slopes gently downward to the water’s edge, which is lined with new cafés and restaurants. Connected to the existing Courbevoie and EPAD masterplans, the project will reinforce the regeneration of the riverfront. Grant Brooker, a senior partner at Foster + Partners: “Our ambition was to create a project that would inject new life into La Défense by bringing a new type of occupation and creating a new public focus on the edge of the Seine. This announcement represents a very important stage in the project’s development and is thanks to the passion of our client, Emin Iskenderov, and the support we have had from EPAD, the City of Courbevoie and the Département de Hauts-de-Seine – we could not have reached this milestone without them.” http://www.fosterandpartners.com/News/465/Default.aspx Jex7844 March 9th, 2012, 11:38 PM Video: HERE (http://www.autreimage.com/projets-27-img1) Jex7844 March 9th, 2012, 11:43 PM New renderings: http://www.autreimage.com/content/proj/PV_SOIR_INC_IMG_5816_V2crop_DETAIL2.jpg http://www.autreimage.com/content/proj/PV_SOIR_INC_IMG_5816_V2crop.jpg http://www.autreimage.com/content/proj/PV_SOIR_INC_IMG_5816_V2crop_DETAIL.jpg :wave: http://www.autreimage.com/projets-14 brisavoine March 10th, 2012, 12:09 AM In the Daily Telegraph. Paris to trump London's Shard with Europe's tallest buildings Daily Telgraph 9 March 2012 Paris will become home to Europe's highest building after it announced it will build 1,059ft high twin towers that will trump London's Shard. http://i41.tinypic.com/nfihck.jpg Hermitage Plaza was designed by British artchitects Foster and Partners The two skyscrapers will 40ft taller than the Shard, which is currently under construction in the British capital. Planning permission for the French project called Hermitage Plaza - designed by British artchitects Foster and Partners - was granted by Paris officials this week. The two buildings - which will house offices, luxury apartments, a shopping complex and a hotel - will dominate the skyline in the western business district of La Defense. [...] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9133399/Paris-to-trump-Londons-Shard-with-Europes-tallest-buildings.html brisavoine March 10th, 2012, 12:32 AM In the Wall Street Journal. Europe's Tallest Towers Set to Rise Wall Street Journal March 9, 2012 The €2 billion ($2.66 billion) Hermitage Plaza Towers to be built in Paris's La Défense business district have received planning permission and work on the site will start imminently, Emin Iskenderov, chief executive of development company Hermitage Group, said Friday. Hermitage Group, a Paris-based private company with Russian origins, will start clearing the site for the two 320-meter-tall (1,050 feet) skyscrapers this month, he said. [...] The project will cost a total of €2 billion, with €700 million in bank debt arranged with four banks at a cost of 6.5%, and €300 million of equity coming from Hermitage Group itself. The remaining €1 billion will be financed through sales of apartments and offices. "We plan to sell the apartments and offices but we will keep [the ownership of the] retail and the hotel," Mr. Iskenderov said, adding that he has already received interest from 4,000 parties to buy the 543 luxury, serviced apartments. Hermitage Plaza, designed by U.K.-based architects Foster and Partners, will provide 280,000 square meters of mixed-use space, housing a five-star hotel, 543 apartments, 35,000 square meters (376,737 square feet) of offices and 50,000 square meters of retail and restaurants. "We are in negotiations with various hotel operators and will announce the final operator in May," Mr. Iskenderov said. The Paris real-estate market, which was hit by the financial crisis in 2008, still hasn't recovered completely, and overall property prices remain below their 2007 peak. But Mr. Iskenderov is confident he can raise the €1 billion portion needed through sales of apartments and offices as Hermitage Plaza will be La Défense's first building to offer mixed-use space. "Prices of luxury apartments in Paris between 2008 and today have gone up 40%," he said, adding that he has also had several offers for the 230-room hotel. Hermitage Group will start selling the apartments in a year's time and expects a minimum price of €12,000 per square meter. "We need €12,000 per square meter to make the project work, but average prices of luxury apartments in Paris are between €10,000 and €35,000 per square meter, so maybe the prices will go up," Mr. Iskenderov said. He is also in negotiations to sell the 35,000 square meters of office space to a single buyer and expects to finalize a deal before summer. [...] Mr. Iskenderov also said he has just launched an asset-management company, Hermitage Asset Management, which will help Russian and Middle Eastern investors buy property in Paris. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204781804577271270958905242.html?mod=googlenews_wsj Ulpia-Serdica March 10th, 2012, 01:28 AM I really like the Hermitage Towers and I think that they will be a great addition to Paris' skyline, but the Pyramid Tower is what Paris really needs, something out of this world :cheers: KiffKiff March 10th, 2012, 07:24 AM Great this new projects for Paris ! My favorite : - Hermitage Plaza towers - Louis Vuitton Fondation Museum - French Pentagon "Hexagone" - Department of Islamic Arts in Louvre Museum - New Forum des Halles - New Zoo de Vincennes I hope some others towers for La Defense in the future (like Phare Tower). And beside this, I love the "Grand Versailles" project too, with restoration for 17 years ! (only 8 years to wait now) brisavoine March 11th, 2012, 01:11 PM The building permits for the Tours Hermitage have been posted on site. :master: http://i42.tinypic.com/iwu361.jpg Jex7844 March 11th, 2012, 01:36 PM [...]Enfin, le permis de construire délivré devrait, lui aussi, être l’objet d’au moins deux recours. Si le projet progresse, il prend du retard, ce premier complexe associant logements, bureaux, hôtel et commerces en France qui devait être livré en 2016, devrait l’être fin 2017. Hermitage Plaza's planning permission will face at least two appeals... http://notrecourbevoie.wordpress.com/2012/03/07/permis-de-construire-valide-pour-les-tours-hermitage/ Clery March 11th, 2012, 06:19 PM [CENTER]New renderings: http://www.autreimage.com/content/proj/PV_SOIR_INC_IMG_5816_V2crop_DETAIL2.jpgSuch a transparency is neither a good thing, nor even realistic. This place is supposed to be a hotel, I hardly see any customers being glad to be seen by the neighbours in their privacy. Furthermore, as it's a hotel, there will probably be curtains or blinds on the windows so that people could sleep without being disturbed by outside lightings. So there are only two options : either the rooms would be windowless and the corridors will be on the sides, or the cladding will turn out to be make of blinds (like in Coeur Défense). I'm very sceptic about that design as I don't see how it could work in real. Jex7844 March 11th, 2012, 07:51 PM The hotel project has been abandoned ages ago...it will mainly be an office building! Clery March 11th, 2012, 08:08 PM The hotel project has been abandoned ages ago...it will mainly be an office building!Then why building it at the Parc des Expositions?? There's no point in having offices at that location. Jex7844 March 12th, 2012, 12:06 AM I'd tend to say: 'why not?' If you want some specific info Clery, you'd better ask Unibail... At least, there will be heaps of shops, restaurants & bars at the tower's base. Triangle is gonna be a new landmark for our beloved capital, a stunning one, & the funicular will allow tourists to gaze at Paris in a different way thanks to a view unseen before. http://data0.jeblog.fr/especeurbaine/mod_article1334278_7.jpeg?7402 The area will be animated, lively, it will be a lovely place to meet up, at last. A big park is gonna be created as well. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Philharmonie de Paris a5EAJYV-YjQ Video shot by Florent today Clery March 12th, 2012, 03:18 AM Jex, I hadn't seen that! Here's a cladding sample for D2 tower that appeared this week-end. By JP today: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7206/6826129546_2c9aef3fe5_b.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7179/6972246539_ba0d43e9e0_z.jpg It matches the renderings perfectly ---> HERE (http://www.pythagore.setec.fr/automne_modules_files/pmedia/public/r107_9_vue-nuit-2-2.jpg) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Interesting diagram: HERE (http://www.pythagore.setec.fr/automne_modules_files/pmedia/public/r108_9_ficref_1.jpg) :wave: Jex7844 March 14th, 2012, 12:54 PM 7 DAYS TO GO! LondonFox March 14th, 2012, 01:56 PM that "pentagon" building is incredible,:applause: I wish the MoD here in England could build such a building but it would probably be built 5 years late and 3 times over budget:gaah: They can, they did, it was finished in 2003.. it is called GCHQ and its in Cheltenham.. the British government just don't talk about it. It is directly linked to the intelligence agencies of the USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.. (the 5 countries of the Echelon system) giving un equaled capabilities to invade any other countries privacy. parcdesprinces March 14th, 2012, 02:53 PM giving un equaled capabilities to invade any other countries privacy. Maybe, but at least France is militarily independent, and honestly I wouldn't like to be militarily ruled by one of our former colonies, like the Brits are ruled by the Yanks on this matter. ;) (BTW, France has its own "echelon" system, or Frenchelon, based in Metropolitan France and in our numerous overseas territories around the world) Matthieu March 14th, 2012, 03:59 PM What were we talking about? LondonFox March 14th, 2012, 04:20 PM Maybe, but at least France is militarily independent, and honestly I wouldn't like to be militarily ruled by one of our former colonies, like the Brits are ruled by the Yanks on this matter. ;) (BTW, France has its own "echelon" system, or Frenchelon, based in Metropolitan France and in our numerous overseas territories around the world) Nice try at trolling. parcdesprinces March 14th, 2012, 04:21 PM ^^ oops... hseugut March 14th, 2012, 04:48 PM Nice try at trolling. Les faits sont durs à admettre / Facts are sometimes hard to face :) Matthieu March 14th, 2012, 11:29 PM Nice try at trolling. You mean "try" as in rugby, when someone scored. So anyway, don't you guys have anything better to do? Jex7844 March 15th, 2012, 05:49 PM 6 DAYS TO GO! Minsk March 16th, 2012, 04:11 PM The Agence Search water-sports centre sits beside the Seine with a roof of undulating waves http://static.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/19344_1_MichelDenanc_Web.jpg http://static.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/19344_2_MichelDenanc_Web.jpg http://static.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/19344_3_MichelDenanc_Web.jpg http://static.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/19344_5_MichelDenanc_Web.jpg http://static.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/19344_6_MichelDenanc_Web.jpg http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=19344 Jex7844 March 16th, 2012, 04:52 PM 5 DAYS TO GO! Jex7844 March 17th, 2012, 04:32 PM 4 DAYS TO GO! :soon: Clery March 17th, 2012, 05:53 PM Some nice pictures of Carpe Diem's cladding by Bnmaddict. The more the building rises, the more it becomes interesting. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7058/6836339540_e57648d1f9_o.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7062/6982467145_be5e6f1145_o.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7194/6982467649_120eb110d5_o.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7205/6836341124_2a5bd100f3_o.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7041/6836342854_f18755718b_o.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7045/6836341690_de8c22de3e_o.jpg EuropeanChancellor March 17th, 2012, 06:35 PM ^^ oops... Are you kidding? The best thing that the French army can do is to raise a white flag :sly: Clery March 17th, 2012, 06:43 PM Saint-Lazare train station new mall. Pictures by Minato ku: http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC40725a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC40716a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC40721a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC40723a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC40708a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC40709a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC40715a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC40729a.jpg parcdesprinces March 17th, 2012, 07:29 PM Are you kidding? The best thing that the French army can do is to raise a white flag :sly: Maybe you should educate yourself, because I guess you don't know where the white flag originates from, do you ? The plain white flag is the former French flag, so nothing surprising and nothing insulting to associate it with the French army, dear ;). Until the adoption of the French tricolour in 1790, the plain white flag flew at all battles, but it had nothing to do with capitulation. On the contrary, it became the symbol of furious struggles, both on land and at sea. So how did the white flag come to signify surrender? It seems that when the enemies of France surrendered, they were often compelled to fly it as a sign of capitulation. After France adopted the tricolour, flying the white flag continued among all belligerents as a sign of surrender or ceasefire. Canadian Military History Gateway/The White Flag As A Battle Flag Oh and btw, another of the "best things" that the French army does, is to test and carry our numerous nuclear weapons... Beware ! :devil: :D Clery March 17th, 2012, 07:44 PM Maybe you should educate yourself, because I guess you don't know where the white flag originates from, do you ? The plain white flag is the former French flag, so nothing surprising and nothing insulting to associate it with the French army, dear ;)Get over it, bitter aristocrat, French monarchy is long dead since more than 2 centuries now. You've lost buddy, move on. parcdesprinces March 17th, 2012, 08:19 PM Get over it, bitter aristocrat, French monarchy is long dead since more than 2 centuries now. You've lost buddy, move on. I don't see what the French aristocracy has to do with the plain white flag. :nuts: French aristocracy ≠ French monarchy, in case you didn't notice ;). One, aristocracy, still exists (officially, and it's even protected by the laws of the French Republic, whether you like it or not) and has always existed, even during the Empire and during the Second Empire etc, the other one, monarchy, is indeed dead. See the difference ? BTW, I wasn't there 2 centuries ago, dear ! (so I didn't lost) Not to mention that you seem to forget that numerous French aristocrats were republicans back then, most of these republicans aristocrats were Girondists (e.g. Marie-Anne-Charlotte de Corday d’Armont aka Charlotte Corday, etc). So, I think you'll have to find another topic (try to find one that you know a little bit better than this one) if you want to attack me.... PS: Oh, and I'm sorry to remind you that the French history didn't begin in 1789, like many uneducated people think ;)...And the pre-1789 history is not evil or whatever. sgroutage March 17th, 2012, 08:29 PM del Ulpia-Serdica March 17th, 2012, 08:36 PM 4 DAYS TO GO! :soon: This better be good Jex, you are making me impatient. :banana: parcdesprinces March 17th, 2012, 08:48 PM France militarily independent and the Brits ruled! You have a short memory! Didn't I used the present tense ? Yes, I think I did. ;) (and as far as I know the Echelon system is a US thing... while the Frenchelon is 100% French, I don't think it's that hard to understand and BTW it was the reason of my original post on this topic) Anyway, apparently some of our Brit. friends are "a bit" touchy on the military topic.... :| sgroutage March 17th, 2012, 08:54 PM del parcdesprinces March 17th, 2012, 09:09 PM Silly to try to argue about French military superiority I didn't use that term, or even implied something like that. France can be independent militarily and "inferior" eventually: that's two different things. And the simple fact that you understood my post in that way, is, well, quite telling regarding the touchiness of some Brits on that topic. :laugh: Anyway, we're way off-topic. Matthieu March 17th, 2012, 09:16 PM Are you kidding? The best thing that the French army can do is to raise a white flag :sly: And the best thing you can do is posting nonsense on an internet forum. sgroutage March 17th, 2012, 09:30 PM del parcdesprinces March 17th, 2012, 09:38 PM You went off topic by the way! I'm not the one who mentioned Echelon in the first place (neither you did, I know), my posts were just in response about that. Matthieu March 17th, 2012, 09:41 PM Ok, now I'm pissed. Shut up you all and stick to topic. I don't want that messed by morons (French/British/others) who don't have anything better to do. I'm not a moderator here but if I can't follow news on projects here (particularly on Hermitage Plaza) without having to scroll down and read (you don't know what's in a post until you read it) complete stupidities I'll deliver infractions and brigs (because as an admin I can do that). Clery March 17th, 2012, 11:16 PM I'm not a moderator here but if I can't follow news on projects here (particularly on Hermitage Plaza) without having to scroll down and read (you don't know what's in a post until you read it) complete stupidities I'll deliver infractions and brigs (because as an admin I can do that).News are rather good for Hermitage. The permis de constuire has been delivered last week : Permis de construire http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC40878a.jpg Emin Iskenderov announced that he should start works to remove asbestos from the building "Infra" in the upcoming weeks. That's the necessary first step before the destruction of the buiding. Matthieu March 17th, 2012, 11:21 PM That's the kind of thing I like reading and that belong to this thread! tikiturf March 18th, 2012, 12:55 PM Brits will always make me laugh ! Gotta love those guys :laugh: Jex7844 March 18th, 2012, 01:51 PM This better be good Jex, you are making me impatient. :banana: Well, it will be much better than what it currently is Ulpia, that's for sure :lol:...Honestly, I don't think we'll be disappointed, it's very likely to be worth it...:cheers: Clery March 18th, 2012, 10:05 PM Fondation Vuitton An interesting timelapse video of the construction: J9Iz85pNVpk And some new renders I hadn't seen yet: New renders of La Fondation Vuitton (U/C) http://www.artefactorylab.com/drupal/sites/default/files/24565/Franck-Gehry---Fondation-LVMH-vue2.jpg http://www.artefactorylab.com/drupal/sites/default/files/24565/Franck-Gehry---Fondation-LVMH-vue1.jpg Clery March 18th, 2012, 10:11 PM Some nice pictures of Eqho, by Piéton on PSS-Archi forum: Aujourd'hui http://www.pss-archi.eu/photos/membres/390/l/1331394116uyh.jpg by Piéton. http://www.pss-archi.eu/photos/membres/390/l/1331394305daw.jpg by Piéton. http://www.pss-archi.eu/photos/membres/390/l/1331394701ylg.jpg by Piéton. Clery March 18th, 2012, 10:21 PM Construction has started for the New 4-star hotel in La Défense : City View http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7044/6785396262_442f90be84_z.jpg http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/2231/dscf0749k.jpg http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/2233/dscf0750z.jpg Matthieu March 19th, 2012, 03:21 PM Brits will always make me laugh ! Gotta love those guys :laugh: That's a completely out of place provocation! Jex7844 March 19th, 2012, 05:49 PM 1 DAY TO GO! :banana2::banana2::banana2: LCIII March 20th, 2012, 07:38 PM Fondation Vuitton An interesting timelapse video of the construction: J9Iz85pNVpk And some new renders I hadn't seen yet: Reminds me so much of the EMP in Seattle...and thats a good thing! Jex7844 March 21st, 2012, 12:50 PM Today is the day!!! http://www.lefigaro.fr/medias/2012/03/20/099fc786-7295-11e1-ad62-7bd4f34c39a3-493x328.jpg Cost: 1 million € Setting up : 8 months 972 neons 58 spotlights (to allow the 'pulse' at the top) 40 000 pixels in total 4 scenarii depending on the seasons Electricity consumption: equivalent to 10 irons Unveiling: at nightfall tonight Newcastle Guy March 21st, 2012, 06:19 PM Looking good. I've never minded this building to be honest. Axelferis March 21st, 2012, 06:26 PM but it's the best view of paris, you should try it ;) aclifford March 21st, 2012, 07:41 PM Very excited about Montparnasse's lighting tonight KAAAZ March 22nd, 2012, 12:52 AM http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg196/scaled.php?server=196&filename=img1232og.jpg&res=mediumhttp://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg39/scaled.php?server=39&filename=img1233v.jpg&res=mediumhttp://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg801/scaled.php?server=801&filename=img1234w.jpg&res=medium Jex7844 March 23rd, 2012, 01:59 PM http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6105/6858017796_8d19fc0b89_b.jpg Pic by Philippe Cottier As soon as a video is available, we'll post it! :goodbye: London_Lover March 23rd, 2012, 02:25 PM After this, theres any project for Galeries Lafayette Montparnasse? Every time I pass by there I think it should be refurbished. The new lightning is truly cool :) Clery March 23rd, 2012, 02:57 PM After this, theres any project for Galeries Lafayette Montparnasse? Every time I pass by there I think it should be refurbished. The new lightning is truly cool :)The whole Montparnasse mall should be rebuilt if you want my opinion. And I believe Galeries Lafayette should have its own dedicated building if the complex is rebuilt. London_Lover March 23rd, 2012, 03:06 PM ouais, maintenant le lieu a l'air trop vieux et sal.. :( el palmesano March 23rd, 2012, 03:34 PM ^^ great! Jex7844 March 24th, 2012, 01:08 PM Pics by Piéton http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad5/unpieton2/DSC_0727-1.jpg http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad5/unpieton2/DSC_0728-1.jpg http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad5/unpieton2/DSC_0733-1.jpg http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad5/unpieton2/DSC_0738-1.jpg http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad5/unpieton2/DSC_0742-1.jpg London_Lover March 24th, 2012, 01:34 PM :dance: :grouphug: Ouiiiiiiiiiii !!!!!! :banana: jonathaninATX March 25th, 2012, 10:44 AM Paris is looking good. :) hseugut March 27th, 2012, 03:07 PM Très bien pour Montparnasse / Very good for Montparnasse moustache March 27th, 2012, 03:26 PM The shap of this tower is pretty good. Its the cladding the real problem. LondonFox March 27th, 2012, 04:45 PM Is that what all the fuss was about? some new blue lights... I thought it would be some kind of total mind blowing lighting scheme... oh well. Gui March 27th, 2012, 05:20 PM Is that what all the fuss was about? some new blue lights... I thought it would be some kind of total mind blowing lighting scheme... oh well. Well, there's no "fuss" about it. It's not headlining any newspaper, don't worry. Jex is just a bit over enthusiast sometimes, that's all. It's refreshing and positive, IMO. dino2010 March 27th, 2012, 06:02 PM I don't like this lighting design ;/ Jex7844 March 27th, 2012, 06:35 PM I'm not 'just a bit over enthusiast' Gui, I just stated a fact according to those having witnessed the lighting scheme 'in the flesh'.:) The above pics only show the blue contours of the tower, that's the static lighting, but this has nothing to do with the real lighting scheme as such, I mean the dynamic one. I wish we had an official video, would be so much more explicit... The only thing we've got within reach are the 'old' very short videos: YfkDFWVuyGY xOOj0zHnixI (This one is accelerated 6 times!) The lighting scheme will evolve depending on seasons; days; night hours & events such as the 'Fête de la musique", the "Nuit Blanche"... In Spring: main colors blue & green In Summer: main colors blue & yellow In autumn: main colors yellow, red & white In Winter: main colors red, blue & white LCIII March 27th, 2012, 07:26 PM Is that what all the fuss was about? some new blue lights... I thought it would be some kind of total mind blowing lighting scheme... oh well. Haha I was thinking the exact same thing. Lights? Haha with a countdown I expected something bigger like a new tower breaking ground or something like that. Rue Quincampoix March 27th, 2012, 11:00 PM Indeed. A shamefull non event. Jex7844 March 27th, 2012, 11:22 PM Ah ces gosses pourris-gâtés...Watch it live/in the flesh rather than moaning like spoiled kids.:tongue: sgroutage March 27th, 2012, 11:29 PM del Clery March 28th, 2012, 12:04 AM With the lack of developments on this thread and in Paris in general i can understand why though!Lack of developments in Paris? 4 highrise buildings currently under construction in La Défense, 2 towers taller than your shard getting their construction permit only 2 weeks ago... please stop trolling! And last but not least, chances are stronger tonight than ever that a Greater Paris will finally be established before the end of the year 2012!! You've heard it here first. :cool: Jex7844 March 28th, 2012, 12:55 AM ^^ + The 'Philharmonie de Paris'; the 'Canopée' (new Halles); the 'Fondation Louis Vuitton', the 'City View Hotel 4*' in La Défense, the 'French Pentagone'...shall we carry on?:lol: @Rue Q & sgroutage: sorry guys but what did you expect...we're not in Shanghai here...I'm advising you to watch the lighting scheme in the flesh/to read my previous post before criticizing, & then if you don't like it, fair enough then & too bad for you. brisavoine March 28th, 2012, 02:44 AM I think they are just jealous. Notice how these comments always come from London forumers. ;) sgroutage March 28th, 2012, 02:46 AM del Feanaro March 28th, 2012, 04:23 AM Who said anything about London? I think you guys are slightly sensitive about the comparison. It's a joke? Londonfox and you, don't change anything, you are just perfect... Ulpia-Serdica March 28th, 2012, 02:42 PM Paris Becomes Europe's Health-Care IPO Hub http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/data?pid=avimage&iid=izwsIHgCh3YE France’s fourth health-related company to sell shares in an initial public offering this year starts trading in Paris tomorrow, bringing the first quarter’s tally to the most in at least two decades. Unlike the U.K., Germany and Switzerland, which have seen a drought of such stock sales, French biotechnology or medical companies are lining up to issue stock thanks to a pool of dedicated health-care funds, an accessible market for small stocks and tax breaks that have spawned such startups. DBV Technologies SA (DBV), which is developing peanut and milk allergy treatments with patches rather than injections, will price its sale of as many as 6.05 million new shares today. “France is one of the rare countries where you can still get biotech and med-tech IPOs done,” says Christian Finan, who heads equity capital markets at Bryan, Garnier & Co. in Paris, an underwriter of health-care IPOs. “Investors here have an appetite for these assets and are willing to look at them even in a difficult IPO environment if they are of quality.” This year, Adocia SAS (ADOC), which has an accord with Eli Lilly & Co. to develop and market so-called ultra-rapid insulin; EOS Imaging SA (EOSI), a maker of devices for three-dimensional views of the body, and Intrasense SAS (ALINS), a medical-imaging software maker, raised about 70 million euros ($93 million). Their lackluster stock performance isn’t deterring others. SuperSonic Imagine, a maker of ultrasound imaging machines, and Vexim SA, a French producer of implants to treat vertebral fractures of the spine, are among companies considering IPOs. French Momentum Four out of the five IPOs in France in the first quarter were by health-related companies. Societe Generale SA (GLE), Dexia SA and Gilbert Dupont are among the lead managers of the sales. Overall, the French health IPO record has been promising. Of the 10 such IPOs in France in 2010 and 2011, only Tekka, a dental-implant maker, has fallen sharply, trading 71 percent below its IPO price. Shares of Carmat SAS (ALCAR), which is developing an artificial heart, have more than quintupled. Novagali Pharma SA was last year acquired by Japan’s Santen Pharmaceutical Co. “Momentum has clearly been picking up in France in the biotech and med-tech sectors,” says Andre Choulika, founder and chief executive officer of Paris-based Cellectis (ALCLS) SA, a DNA researcher. “It’s not the same in other European countries.” The companies have benefitted from tax breaks for corporate research expenses, with the main fiscal measure seen by French entrepreneurs as key to the funding of innovation in biotech in a 2011 Ernst & Young LLP survey, says Franck Sebag, a Paris- based partner for the accounting firm. “France has had pretty strong-willed policies for companies investing in innovation,” says Sebag. “This de facto helps biotech companies.” Dedicated Funds France also has health-care venture funds such as Paris- based Sofinnova Partners, an investor in DBV Technologies, and Edmond de Rothschild Investment Partners, which owns a stake in EOS Imaging. Societe Generale, Bryan Garnier and Invest Securities have been building their health-care coverage. The 2005 creation of NYSE Alternext for small and medium- sized businesses with easier requirements for biotech and medical-device companies facilitated trading of their shares. In the U.K., investors burned by a drop in shares of companies such as Renovo Group Plc (RNVO) and Antisoma Plc (ASM) may be wary of biotech companies. Renovo, a developer of skin treatments that went public in 2006, today trades 93 percent below its June 2007 peak levels. Antisoma, which develops cancer treatments, closed at a high of 256.49 pence on March 7, 2000. It now trades at 1.75 pence. ‘No Interest’ Cellectis’s Choulika said he is struck by the lack of interest in the U.K. and in other European countries. “Our roadshows in the U.K. raise no interest,” he said. “There’s more interest for Cellectis in the U.S. There is some interest in Switzerland, a bit in Scandinavian countries, but interest is very limited in Germany and almost non-existent in the U.K.” There have been no health-related IPOs this year in Germany or Switzerland and one in the U.K. Truffle Capital, a venture-capital firm based in Paris, brought three companies to market in 2010, including Carmat. “People were telling us we were crazy, that these IPOs would not be successful, that it was impossible to do IPOs in France,” recalls Philippe Pouletty, the co-founder of Truffle Capital. “They were wrong.” Shaky equity markets shouldn’t deter a company from tapping the market if its business plan is sound, the management good and historical shareholders are willing to invest, he said. ‘Yes, We Can’ “You cannot remain seated on a chair, waiting to see whether things will get better, if markets will start rising again,” he says. “You have to say, ‘Yes, we can.’” There are about 300 French biotech and med-tech companies, said Choulika, who also heads France Biotech, an industry association. Some of them would be “good IPO candidates,” he said, citing Cerenis Therapeutics SA as an example. Based in Toulouse, France, and Ann Arbor, Michigan, Cerenis’s main product candidate is a compound that may treat heart disease and high cholesterol. Jean-Louis Dasseux, its founder and CEO, said in an interview last year he may consider funding options including an IPO in 2013. Vexim is close to a decision on an IPO in April, Truffle Capital’s Pouletty has said. The firm owns a majority stake in Vexim, which is based in Balma, France. SuperSonic Imagine is “working” on its own IPO plans, Jacques Souquet, the company’s founder and CEO, said in a March 14 interview. He declined to give any details. Glut Worries “I hope the momentum won’t break because too many companies opt for an IPO without being ready for it,” Choulika says. The size of the offers in France remains unimpressive, said Kristelle Kerforn, a director of health-care mergers and acquisitions at Credit Agricole Corporate & Investment Bank. “We’re talking of relatively small amounts of money,” Kerforn says. “We don’t expect a very active market.” Still, there’s plenty of interest out there, said Remi Soula, head of business development and scientific adviser at Adocia, the developer of experimental diabetes treatments. “French people always had an obsession for innovation, but for years TGV trains or Rafale airplanes were the rage,” he said. “They seem more passionate about life sciences these days. We’re really benefiting from that.” http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-03-27/paris-is-europe-health-care-ipo-hub-with-most-sales-in-20-years#p1 LondonFox March 28th, 2012, 04:17 PM I think they are just jealous. Notice how these comments always come from London forumers. ;) Ah Napoleon, there you are! By the way, I don't think sgroutage is actually British.. or any of the other people on the last page who were also expecting a bit more after Jex hyped it up so much... just FYI.. but please... keep defending your city from all kinds of attack (or non attack).. http://www.emofaces.com/en/emoticons/f/france-flag-waving-emoticon-animated.gif Clery March 28th, 2012, 06:09 PM There's nothing deserving crying at Napoleon in his post. It's true that we very rarely see Italian or Spanish posters coming on the Paris thread only to say it's a crap city (which is obvious trolling). Clery March 28th, 2012, 06:17 PM Oh and how bizarre... One minute after having posted on this thread, SO143 posts in the London thread to say they renovated asphalt on Whatford street. You're totally childish. Axelferis March 28th, 2012, 06:27 PM great montparnasse lights :) I hope to be there soon... Godius March 28th, 2012, 06:34 PM I have to say that it was pretty silly to have a month long countdown for a change of light-scheme of the Montparnasse Tower (:lol:). But apart from that i do like this P&C thread. brisavoine March 28th, 2012, 09:09 PM Oh and how bizarre... One minute after having posted on this thread, SO143 posts in the London thread to say they renovated asphalt on Whatford street. The most important piece of news of the century. :lol: Axelferis March 29th, 2012, 10:46 AM guys why to act childish? "london vs paris" sometimes are boring with poor argues :dunno: LondonFox March 29th, 2012, 12:39 PM The most important piece of news of the century. :lol: Yes it ranks up there with some blue lights :lol: ory26 March 29th, 2012, 02:05 PM Will be great to have a resume of all projects under construction or approved,because we have not news since a long time. steph35 March 29th, 2012, 05:45 PM With the lack of developments on this thread and in Paris in general i can understand why though! Please just don't go here (http://www.parismetropole2020.com/evenement/) you'll be affraid of how you are stupid to say that. sgroutage March 29th, 2012, 08:29 PM del ChrisDVD March 29th, 2012, 08:35 PM Didn't Paris get more m2 of new offices than London last year? steph35 March 29th, 2012, 08:54 PM No, not stupid at all! I have just returned from Paris and there is a noticeable lack of cranes on the skyline. In fact every time i visit Paris (every year) this is always the case. I didnt bring up London at all, but some seem to want to have some kind of debate on the comparison, but in all honestly there is no comparison really. London is a constantly changing city and the skyline has been dominated by cranes for the last 10 years and will continue to do so. This is one of the fundamental differences between the 2 cities. It has always been this way and will always be this way. To argue that Paris somehow has many more developments than London is just silly and not representative of reality. No one is saying one city is better than the other. But in terms of development, there is always more going on in London where attitudes to development are far more relaxed. Things happen slowly in Paris, cest la vie! -> :lol: ridiculous Baboulinet March 29th, 2012, 09:30 PM Please, don't feed the trolls, they only want to ruin this thread. Jex7844 March 29th, 2012, 10:07 PM No, not stupid at all! I have just returned from Paris and there is a noticeable lack of cranes on the skyline. In fact every time i visit Paris (every year) this is always the case. Well, go back to Paris at the same time of year in 2013 & hang around Balard, you'll notice at least 22 cranes over the French Pentagone site...:baeh3: KiffKiff March 29th, 2012, 10:27 PM Bla bla bla bla... Cool story bro, and nice trolling again :) Now shut up. Axelferis March 30th, 2012, 12:04 AM o so. This is one of the fundamental differences between the 2 cities. It has always been this way and will always be this way. To argue that Paris somehow has many more developments than London is just silly and not representative of reality. you can notice that the ugliest quarters are in london and when you regenerate them you can only do better by creating new sorts of things:) Paris is alreday so beautiful that it's hard to change minds sgroutage March 30th, 2012, 12:20 AM del parcdesprinces March 30th, 2012, 12:39 AM London is a post industrial city, sporadic, unplanned, sprawling, chaotic. There are areas allover the city in a constant state of development and redevelopment. Paris on the other hand is in many ways the opposite. Planned, ordered, serine. Developments are often frowned upon, debated and many get cancelled before they really get off the architects table. London and Paris are kind of asymmetric opposites, similar in size, population, importance, but completely different in approach. I totally agree with you on this. That's why IMHO it's quite silly to say that one city is "better" or whatever than the other and vice versa, since they both are simply different. So, all in all it's a matter of personal taste (which is subjective), nothing more. For example I enjoy both cities for what they are, as well as numerous other places around the world, so, I personally find idiotic and pointless all this comparisons, rankings etc, since every place has its own "soul/atmosphere" and to me this diversity must be preserved. Clery March 30th, 2012, 12:43 AM Some recent pictures of Paris Philarmonie http://www.philharmoniedeparis.com/en/sites/default/files/imagecache/document_top_bloc/documents/11-09-01-nBorel_0373-pavris-page-accueil.jpg http://www.philharmoniedeparis.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/document_top_bloc/documents/IMG_2553_Crop.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7188/6944245787_104863f283_z.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7191/6944246401_562a8d27b9_z.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7061/6798131816_e50ab33bbc_z.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7203/6798132376_a602b09606_z.jpg For those who don't remember here are some renderings: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2063/2228632814_9eb460b099_b.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3366/4607220806_ae245ceb69_b.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/3057923573_5b97c5bd83_b.jpg Clery March 30th, 2012, 12:49 AM Works for the new Defence HQ in Balard have already started! A crane is already on site. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7207/6990064151_d82a0c41e3_z.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7179/6843939756_6f56e3b422_z.jpg http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/6667/dsc00086dm.jpg Clery March 30th, 2012, 01:03 AM That is exactly what i was eluding to. Despite what some think it wasnt 'trolling' or whatever. London is a post industrial city, sporadic, unplanned, sprawling, chaotic. There are areas allover the city in a constant state of development and redevelopment. Paris on the other hand is in many ways the opposite. Planned, ordered, serine. Developments are often frowned upon, debated and many get cancelled before they really get off the architects table.I don't want to sound rude but that's a very shallow description of Paris which proves you don't know much about the city. Yes, Central Paris benefitted of a tight urban planning by the end of the 19th century, but that was at a time when the metro area counted only 2 million people. And that's about the last time it happened. Since then, Paris has grown 6 times that size in population, the metro area hosts over 12 million people at last census. And that development has been excessively chaotic. Too chaotic if you would ask me. So what happened in Paris and London in the last 10 years? Exactly the same dude... former industrial areas have been converted into business parks. For one East London development, there's a Plaine Saint-Denis development. The main difference isn't there, it's only a matter of perception. Kriativus March 30th, 2012, 02:35 AM Some recent pictures of Paris Philarmonie http://www.philharmoniedeparis.com/en/sites/default/files/imagecache/document_top_bloc/documents/11-09-01-nBorel_0373-pavris-page-accueil.jpg http://www.philharmoniedeparis.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/document_top_bloc/documents/IMG_2553_Crop.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7188/6944245787_104863f283_z.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7191/6944246401_562a8d27b9_z.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7061/6798131816_e50ab33bbc_z.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7203/6798132376_a602b09606_z.jpg For those who don't remember here are some renderings: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2063/2228632814_9eb460b099_b.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3366/4607220806_ae245ceb69_b.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/3057923573_5b97c5bd83_b.jpg Love the exterior. It seems quite dynamic. What's going to happen with Opera de Bastille? Doesn't both work in the same way? Clery March 30th, 2012, 11:04 AM Love the exterior. It seems quite dynamic. What's going to happen with Opera de Bastille? Doesn't both work in the same way?The philarmonie is only for concerts, up to a symphony orchestra (with about 100 musicians on stage). It won't have the facilities to host a full opera with all the stage set, actors and so on. There's a strong demand anyway for classic music shows in Paris. If you mention operas, they aren't only performed in Bastille, they are also performed in Garnier, the Opéra Comique, the Châtelet, Théâtre des Champs-Elysées, the Opéra de Massy... On the other side, Paris didn't have a really big philharmonic concert hall like the one currently built. We had salle Pleyel, salle Gaveau or cité de la Musique, but none are of the same size. KiffKiff March 30th, 2012, 10:26 PM I like this rendering "night & day" of Philharmonie de Paris : http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4144/4838177836_780dee588e_b.jpg http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2382/2227840435_fc9dd34907_o.jpg http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1388/4606562603_ba8eb3fbe6_z.jpg And the Louis Vuitton Museum in progress too : http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7279/7001297305_f41fd1ea96_c.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7116/6855180404_fc31f800b1_c.jpg (Photos Milo92) Render: http://www.artefactorylab.com/drupal/sites/default/files/24565/Franck-Gehry---Fondation-LVMH-vue1.jpg Clery March 30th, 2012, 11:43 PM On the other side, Paris didn't have a really big philharmonic concert hall like the one currently built. We had salle Pleyel, salle Gaveau or cité de la Musique, but none are of the same size.Obviously I was wrong on this point. Salle Pleyel is a 3,000 seater, whereas the new Philharmonie currently under construction will only be a 2,400 seater (which is already rather big for a classic concert hall). Clery March 30th, 2012, 11:51 PM The lower level of the new Saint-Lazare mall (still under construction) is now open. We can now directly reach the metro hub from the train station mall. http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC34464.jpg Minato ku March 31st, 2012, 11:43 PM SNCF inaugurates rebuilt Paris St Lazare station 21 March 2012 GUILLAUME Pepy, president of French National Railways (SNCF), today marked the completion of 10 years of work when he inaugurated the rebuilt St Lazare station in Paris. With 1600 trains and 450,000 passengers a day, St Lazare is the second busiest station in France. The Euros 250m scheme was a public-private partnership between SNCF, which invested Euros 90m, and Klépierre which provided the remaining Euros 160m. Spie Batignolles was the main contractor for the work. The project involved excavating 20m below the station, which continued to function throughout the work, to create three new levels beneath the existing two subterranean levels. One of the new levels provides a new interchange with the five metro lines and RER Line E which serve St Lazare. The other two are for car parking. The station also features a 200m-long glass-covered passenger circulation area. Below this there are two levels with 80 shops and restaurants. St Lazare has been equipped with 300 passenger-information screens, and 21 escalators and lifts. http://www.railjournal.com/newsflash/sncf-inaugurates-rebuilt-paris-st-lazare-station-1551.html http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC42156a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC42158a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC42208a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC42162a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC42189a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC42187a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC42191a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC42173a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC42192a.jpg The lower level of the new Saint-Lazare mall (still under construction) is now open. We can now directly reach the metro hub from the train station mall. In your post, it sound that the metro was not directly accessible from the train station before the work, in fact it was but in a very different way. The station was more like a maze of dark corridors instead of a big and bright station passenger hall. In 2008 http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC01754a.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%204/DSC01755a.jpg Clery April 1st, 2012, 02:22 AM ^^ It looks very nice! Is it fully refurbished yet or is it still at work? In your post, it sound that the metro was not directly accessible from the train station before the work, in fact it was but in a very different way. The station was more like a maze of dark corridors instead of a big and bright station passenger hall.Yes, but the direct access was closed during construction works. richifrance April 1st, 2012, 06:09 AM Wouah Paris finally got itself a ''up to international standard" railway station! Finally, congrat Paris! Just a question, but I know this point is usually a crucial point in any public renewal in France, is there any toilets in the station? Are they modern free and clean? If someone often pass by there i would be interested to have the feedbacks! Indeed confort starts by such a basic thing. (that usually give out in any france's public places...) Alvar Lavague April 1st, 2012, 12:34 PM Wouah Paris finally got itself a ''up to international standard" railway station! Gare de l'Est has gone through a similar renovation 5 years ago. :| parcdesprinces April 1st, 2012, 01:01 PM Wouah Paris finally got itself a ''up to international standard" railway station! Finally, congrat Paris! I don't know what "international standard" means in terms of railway stations... But what I see, is the "unintentional" (?) irony in your post.. Because, you know, Paris is one the best connected cities by train, not to mention HSR, in terms of international services ;)... Paris <--> Belgium, Luxembourg, Holland, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Russia, Italy, Monaco, Britain, Spain, Portugal, Hungary, Romania, Turkey, Czech Rep.... etc etc Minato ku April 1st, 2012, 02:00 PM Gare de Lyon is currently under in renovation. (see post 3265 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=87452037&postcount=3265)) Gare Austerlitz big renewal work began few month ago, a project even more impressive than St Lazare. (see post 3293 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=87915488&postcount=3293) or 2686 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=76448257&postcount=2686)) Gare Montparnasse renovation work is planned. Axelferis April 1st, 2012, 02:06 PM I think gare du nord makes the bad reputation of Paris since St pancras is opened :| aclifford April 1st, 2012, 02:14 PM That's why IMHO it's quite silly to say that one city is "better" or whatever than the other and vice versa, since they both are simply different. So, all in all it's a matter of personal taste (which is subjective), nothing more. For example I enjoy both cities for what they are, as well as numerous other places around the world, so, I personally find idiotic and pointless all this comparisons, rankings etc, since every place has its own "soul/atmosphere" and to me this diversity must be preserved. It's so refreshing to read an intelligent and reasonable comment on this forum. There's so much needless city bashing, which is mostly nationalism, statements and opinions that aren't really thought out. I wish everyone would take a similar view to you. Axelferis April 1st, 2012, 02:23 PM It comes from londoners bashers you know... Clery April 1st, 2012, 02:29 PM I don't know what "international standard" means in terms of railway stations... But what I see, is the "unintentional" (?) irony in your post.. Because, you know, Paris is one the best connected cities by train, not to mention HSR, in terms of international services ;)... Paris <--> Belgium, Luxembourg, Holland, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Russia, Italy, Monaco, Britain, Spain, Portugal, Hungary, Romania, Turkey, Czech Rep.... etc etcI don't believe richifrance really thought about the quality of the connections as there's no doubt Paris is really well-servciced. I think he was talking about quality of the station facilities and equipments. aclifford April 1st, 2012, 02:33 PM It comes from londoners bashers you know... It comes from everyone actually brisavoine April 1st, 2012, 04:23 PM No, not stupid at all! I have just returned from Paris and there is a noticeable lack of cranes on the skyline. In fact every time i visit Paris (every year) this is always the case. You didn't pay proper attention then. Paris is a bigger city than London, so of course the cranes are more spread out than in London, but the Paris Crane Survey and the London Crane Survey show that there are actually more cranes in Paris than in London. ;) Axelferis April 1st, 2012, 04:27 PM Cranes are just awful for a nice city like Paris :troll: Forgive us to not destroy the panorama of our beloved "ville Lumières" brisavoine April 1st, 2012, 04:48 PM Awful or not, there are more cranes in the sky of Paris than in the sky of London. In fact Paris probably has the most cranes in its sky in the European Union. This map shows the office developments with a floor space bigger than 5,000 m² which were either refurbished (light blue; in Paris "refurbishment" means an almost entire reconstruction of the building, with only the Haussmannian façades on the street left standing) or newly built (dark blue) between 1998 and 2004. http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/8923/parisrealestateyy3.png It's no wonder that Paris has the most office space in Europe: http://i44.tinypic.com/345g9kp.png And the highest office take-up: http://i44.tinypic.com/9pu875.png These things of course require lots of cranes, whether our English troll here chooses to ignore them or not when he visits Paris. Feanaro April 1st, 2012, 05:04 PM Thanks you Brisavoine for these informations. Do you have informations or pictures on Luc Besson project (its Cité du Cinema)? KiffKiff April 1st, 2012, 06:04 PM Thanks you Brisavoine for these informations. Do you have informations or pictures on Luc Besson project (its Cité du Cinema)? http://static.lexpress.fr/medias/306/cite-du-cinema-3_370.jpg http://static.lexpress.fr/medias/306/cite-du-cinema_376.jpg http://www.eti-construction.fr/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/s46_studio_cine_vinci.jpg http://www.leparisien.fr/images/2012/01/18/1816312_3eafe56e-4167-11e1-8941-00151780182c.jpg Inauguration : May 2012 http://www.lexpress.fr/culture/cinema/la-cite-du-cinema-de-luc-besson-inauguree-en-mai_1058977.html Ulpia-Serdica April 1st, 2012, 06:59 PM Great news for la Cité du Cinema! Luc Besson has done a great job with the recent blockbusters coming out of EuropaCorp :cheers: Axelferis April 1st, 2012, 07:03 PM This project is great :cheers: When we'll know for the big mall "cité europa" in gonesse? sgroutage April 1st, 2012, 07:47 PM del DeFiBkIlLeR April 1st, 2012, 08:19 PM Paris is a bigger city than London Metro Area Population: London Metro Area Population 13,700,000 Paris Metro Area 11,200,000 City Limit Population: London 7,500,000 Paris 2,200,000 In fact, of the 8 different definitions of what constitutes the size of a city, London comes out as being bigger than Paris in 6 of them...population density is the only area in which Paris ranks higher than London on a consistent basis. So the award for 'fail fact of the day' goes to you. tikiturf April 1st, 2012, 08:25 PM OMG, you guys are so annoying with your stats, rankings etc.... :ohno: Paris and London are almost the same in size and population, and nobody cares about the number of cranes in the city. brisavoine April 1st, 2012, 08:31 PM i noticed you used a diagram that includes all of Ile de France region. This is a bit like extending Greater London to include some of the home counties. Not really a like for like comparison. The map I posted covers exactly the same territory as Greater London. brisavoine April 1st, 2012, 08:33 PM Metro Area Population: London Metro Area Population 13,700,000 Paris Metro Area 11,200,000 City Limit Population: London 7,500,000 Paris 2,200,000 :| http://i40.tinypic.com/11llnit.png DeFiBkIlLeR April 1st, 2012, 08:39 PM :| You can post ':|' as much as you want, but the facts are out there on numerous sites, using Eurostat data, UN data and various economic survey data, and they all show London to be bigger than Paris in the vast majority of definitions. So unless you are saying that you are correct and all the experts are wrong...in which case,:|..right back at you. brisavoine April 1st, 2012, 08:41 PM and nobody cares about the number of cranes in the city. Apparently some people do. :lol: Time to debunk again that old canard 'no cranes in Paris'. Here are some of the cranes in the sky of Paris, for the English visitors who apparently don't open their eyes when they come to the City of Light. :) http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1408/cranesyi6.jpg http://www.asecular.com/ran/0201/503_cranes.jpg (these two ones are actually my own pictures, taken from the train :bowtie:) http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/7489/grues2uj0.jpg http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/8479/grues1sx3.jpg http://philippekaltenbach.typepad.fr/photos/uncategorized/photo_grues_plessis_1.jpg http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/3119/t20fx.jpg http://grandparis.free.fr/quiz/goodies/seine-st-denis.JPG http://irgendwo.free.fr/est/12.jpg http://jrlegallais.free.fr/photos/villes/paris/tourmontparnasse/Tour_Montparnasse-20061007-001-Parc_Brimborion-JRL.jpg http://farm1.static.flickr.com/184/419203271_81e64be7fe_o.jpg http://farm1.static.flickr.com/123/374765946_b317fe508a_o.jpg http://irgendwo.free.fr/uneannee/2/1.jpg http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5203/4gruescopyright27rz.jpg http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/967/valdeseineqh8.jpg sgroutage April 1st, 2012, 08:44 PM del Gaeth April 1st, 2012, 08:51 PM I was expecting to see parisian projects by clicking on this thread I made a big mistake ... :sleepy: brisavoine April 1st, 2012, 08:58 PM And soon, the tallest cranes in Europe. :naughty: http://i39.tinypic.com/wmm9p1.png brisavoine April 1st, 2012, 08:59 PM You have even included Forêt de Marly in your diagram above. Clearly not in Paris! This is not "my diagram". This is actually a map of office developments in Paris created by the Paris Chamber of Commerce. I think they know a bit more about Paris than you. Cyril April 1st, 2012, 08:59 PM yeah it is a cock size contest..Paris clearly has the shorter one..so what? who cares? Back to topic please or :lock: will strike. Clery April 1st, 2012, 09:46 PM You can post ':|' as much as you want, but the facts are out there on numerous sites, using Eurostat data, UN data and various economic survey data, and they all show London to be bigger than Paris in the vast majority of definitions. So unless you are saying that you are correct and all the experts are wrong...in which case,:|..right back at you.Actually no... The UN world urbanization prospects put Paris ahead of London, as well as the OECD: List of metropolitan areas in Europe (Wikipedia) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metropolitan_areas_in_Europe) The problem in that discussion is that the UK office for national statistics doesn't publish any metropolitan area statistics, so we have no official figure for its actual size. On the other hand, we do have statistics for both cities regarding urban areas, and Paris is officially bigger than London in that regard: London urban area: 8,278,251 (2001) List of urban areas in the United Kingdom (ONS) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_urban_areas_in_the_United_Kingdom) Paris: 10,142,983 (2006) Major unités urbaines in France (INSEE) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit%C3%A9_urbaine) Cities work differently anyway. Paris is denser both in its central area and its suburban area. However, Paris is located in a low density region, whereas London surrounding countryside is a lot more populated. This doesn't necessarily mean its metropolitan area is larger though, as all those surrounding towns around London can have their own metropolitan areas by themselves. I don't want to sound pushy, but I do have problems to consider how London could "feel" bigger. London is less dense, it has a smaller city center, its main avenues are narrower, the average building height is lower in the center. I guess it's all a matter of perception, but unless one considers Paris ends at the peripherique, I can't see how it could be "feeling smaller" than London. |