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"Asslanta"........LOL. :hahaha: :lol: :hilarious

Ya' gotta' love that name. I absolutely LOVE the "ATL". There's no place in the world like it.

Is this appropirate jmascuso?

Here are some drawings of 166 16th street development next to Atlantic Station proposed by Wood partners who partnered with Novare on their first few projects. The Home Park neighborhood association has now approved the project.
Btw they're still seeking a grocery store to fill much of the retail space.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/5760/16622on.jpg


http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8721/1660ut.jpg


http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/9633/16635dn.jpg

According to an article in the Atlanta Business Chronicle, Deloitte & Touche might be leaving 191 Peachtree. If they decide they want a new building, that would mean a new tower somewhere (50 Allen Plaza?). I'm guessing they're going to look around and then get a sweatheart deal to stay at 191.

Of course, I'd love for them to move to 50 Allen Plaza and then have UPS buy 191 so they could be intown. Not likely to happen since I'm pretty sure UPS owns their current building so it would be like just moving when a lease is up.

I don't know about you guys, but i'm ready for another 1000"+.

I'm about to give up on Atlanta.

I don't think it's time for another 1000' yet. We need to concentrate on infill. It's much better to have four 250's than one 1000' and three parking lots. Eventually an area will be hot enough from all the improvements infill makes in the area that they'll be a true need for a 1000 footer.

Is this appropirate jmascuso?
Threads are supposed to be closed after every 500 posts.

I don't think it's time for another 1000' yet. We need to concentrate on infill. It's much better to have four 250's than one 1000' and three parking lots. Eventually an area will be hot enough from all the improvements infill makes in the area that they'll be a true need for a 1000 footer.I think what they're saying, AubieTurtle, is that, with 50 or so proposals, it would be nice to get one 1000 footer out of it.

I don't think it's time either, but it would be nice to have one.

I don't know about you guys, but i'm ready for another 1000"+.

I'm about to give up on Atlanta.


I agree....New York has two 1000+'s completed, and two more under construction......I seems irresponsible to me that Atlanta doesn't have at least that many.

BOA Tower is enough for me - in fact more than enough, that junk is ugly. I'm more pleased with the midrises & infill mixed use developments.

Here are some drawings of 166 16th street development next to Atlantic Station proposed by Wood partners who partnered with Novare on their first few projects. The Home Park neighborhood association has now approved the project.
Btw they're still seeking a grocery store to fill much of the retail space.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/5760/16622on.jpg


http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8721/1660ut.jpg


http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/9633/16635dn.jpg




i honestly hate this building.... it is so bland, and i hate when southern cities have these large bases and the actual height of the building is much smaller in portion. these are the same types of developments that will be on 10 acres of land with nothing else around it but parkland

Threads are supposed to be closed after every 500 posts.

I think what they're saying, AubieTurtle, is that, with 50 or so proposals, it would be nice to get one 1000 footer out of it.

I don't think it's time either, but it would be nice to have one.
If you didn't see before, the thread title said "Asslanta" instaed of Atlanta, check the second post

According to an article in the Atlanta Business Chronicle, Deloitte & Touche might be leaving 191 Peachtree. If they decide they want a new building, that would mean a new tower somewhere (50 Allen Plaza?). I'm guessing they're going to look around and then get a sweatheart deal to stay at 191.

Of course, I'd love for them to move to 50 Allen Plaza and then have UPS buy 191 so they could be intown. Not likely to happen since I'm pretty sure UPS owns their current building so it would be like just moving when a lease is up.

I think 191 Peachtree would be a great condo tower. It is too beautiful on the interior to ever be vacant under any circumstance. It is connected to the Ritz and right on Peachtree. If it's not an ideal office location, it could sure be the perfect residential destination.

I don't know if this has been posted, but this is 3650 Peachtree in Buckhead. It's the 36 story (Pope and Land office and Post condos on the top half) and 29 story condo (Novare)
http://img.coxnewsweb.com/B/05/59/36/image_3136595.jpg

Also, an updated rendering of Terminus which shows the 20 story condo that will be on top of the parking deck. Terminus 200 and one of the two 40 story condos which is right behind Terminus 200.
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5738/terminus2gp.png

I don't know if this has been posted, but this is 3650 Peachtree in Buckhead. It's the 36 story (Pope and Land office and Post condos on the top half) and 29 story condo (Novare)
http://img.coxnewsweb.com/B/05/59/36/image_3136595.jpg

Also, an updated rendering of Terminus which shows the 20 story condo that will be on top of the parking deck. Terminus 200 and one of the two 40 story condos which is right behind Terminus 200.
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5738/terminus2gp.png

I like these!

up up up goes atlanta

New Allen Plaza photo:
http://www.allenplaza.com/images/over_LG_night.jpg

^^ 50 is definately taller in this rendering, and 45 seems to have been redesigned and have gotten slightly taller as well.

Wouldn't 30 Allen Plaza be Completely blocked by Twelve Centennial Park from this view?

Wow-- some neat new buildings are going up in ATL!

In addition, I hate the fact that we will be losing our title of having the tallest building in the US outside of New York and Chicago. Of Course this title would be going to Miami's Empire World Towers but maybe we could throw something together...

^ i think that was east of the mississippi

^ i think that was east of the mississippi
Nope.

In addition, I hate the fact that we will be losing our title of having the tallest building in the US outside of New York and Chicago. Of Course this title would be going to Miami's Empire World Towers but maybe we could throw something together...
But we still get to keep our "Tallest Building in a State Capital" Title.

But is that really a bragging right considering many of the lesser skylines of other state capitols?

Atlanta Business Chronicle - April 7, 2006by Bryan Long

Buckhead's skyline is changing again.

Regent Partners LLC is moving forward with construction on its long-anticipated, 48-story, vertical mixed-use project at 3344 Peachtree Road.
When complete, the building will become Buckhead's tallest at 635 feet. It will top neighboring 580-foot tall The Mansion, which broke ground a few weeks earlier and a couple of blocks south.

The current tallest is Park Avenue Condominiums at 485 feet.

Regent's 3344 Peachtree was announced by the developer in May 2005 with an expected groundbreaking in early fall. The date was pushed back month by month as Regent founder David Allman and his team of developers ironed out financing, wrestled with architectural details and negotiated with potential tenants.

"It's a big, complex building and a big, complex project," Allman said. "We were determined to get everything right before moving forward."

The pressure to be the second office building out of the ground in the current development cycle -- following Cousins Properties Inc.'s Terminus 100 -- continued to mount as Trizec Properties Inc. started marketing its Two Alliance property and Equity Office Properties Trust talked up its Prominence II. Adding to the pressure was a recent announcement by Pope & Land Enterprises Inc. that they are teaming up with Duke Realty Corp., Post Properties Inc. and Novare Group Inc. to build two towers on Peachtree.

"Clearly, we're aware of what's going on around us," said David Tennery, principal with Regent. "But we couldn't make decisions based on what anyone else was doing. The last nine months, instead of talking about the building, we've been focused on getting it done."

Allman concurs.

"The delay was more process-oriented than market-oriented," he said.

Regent broke ground the final week of March with no tenants signed to the 500,000 square feet of class A office nor any contracts signed for the 99 luxury condominiums.

Although two office users are rumored to be in the final stages of negotiations, Allman said there are so far no signatures on any deals -- except for a restaurant by Pano Karatassos.

Allman is excited to finally move forward with the project.

Our skylines are changing, densifying, and growing closer. We are on our way to perfection.

Nice city indeed, wanna see this city in a new look when I’ll be back there again

But is that really a bragging right considering many of the lesser skylines of other state capitols?
Exactly. Considering NYC, Chicago, Phila, LA, MIA, Houston, Seattle and Detroit are not state capitals either.

But whatever, all we can do is grow. I really believe (unbiased) Atlanta has the most superior skyline in the region. Many of the other cities are porposing and constructing new structures, but they are far behind due to our all-ready-completed significantly tall towers. But we are still getting more development, and working on our weak points. It seems as if Atlanta's development patterns are perpendicular to "Trial and Error". And as a pround Atlantan, I'm willing to ride it out.

The Age of the Glass Box has returned. And I'm not sure that's a good thing!!!

I think 191 Peachtree would be a great condo tower. It is too beautiful on the interior to ever be vacant under any circumstance. It is connected to the Ritz and right on Peachtree. If it's not an ideal office location, it could sure be the perfect residential destination.


If 191 Peachtree loses Deloitte & Touche what percentage of the building will be occupied (a rough estimate is fine)?

If it's below 50% it will be a big blow to Downtown. And no, turning it into a condo tower will not be a good solution. :) UPS is very happily locked away in their own buildings just north of I-285 and west of SR400 in Sandy Springs. They aren't going anywhere.

It's really pathetic that one of the top five skyscrapers in Atlanta could soon be boarded up.

191 has an awesome lobby. It's freaking amazing.

^That's a worst-case scenario, Nick, but something tells me that people wouldn't *let* a beautiful 15-year-old tower like 191 be boarded.

191 is already 70% vacant but is in no danger of being boarded up. The chance to have office space in a great building at a great price has already attractive one small tenant and probably puts it at the top of the list for the Cancer Society which is seeking 200,000 sf. I would expect 191 to continue to find new tenants especially with the improving metro office market and downtown momentum.

I've seen some of the finest buildings boarded up when they lost their tenants. In the early 90's I often drove through downtown Houston in an airport van on the way from Bush International Airport to the Texas Medical Center where my dad was getting treatment. The hotel's airport van would get off the highway and take city streets to get to the Medical Center. We drove by many 50 and 60 story buildings that must have been completely vacant because the windows on the ground floor where all boarded up.

There was no hurricane coming! It was just the result of too much office space available in a certain part of town (downtown Houston) than was needed. And these were not old dilapidated buildings either, but rather some very nice pieces of architecture. I just hope I don't ever get to see areas of downtown Atlanta, especially those south of the intersection of Peachtree Street and Andrew Young International Blvd, boarded up.

191 could be filled up quickly, but the building management wants another huge tenant like King & Spalding instead of hundereds of small ones. Unless they can convince a large tenent from OTP to move in, I don't see where this huge tenant is going to come from. As far as I know, there are no large Fortune 500 companies currently looking to relocate from another city to Atlanta. There are tons of small and mid sized companies that would jump at a chance to be in the 191 if the price was right and the management was interested in having them. Hopefully those managing the building leases aren't the same ones who lost King & Spadling because it didn't have to happen. They thought that K&S would never leave so they played hard ball with the firm at a time when others in town were dying to find an anchor tenant for a new building or to fill up existing empty space. Why on the earth they thought they could play hard ball with a bunch of lawyers is beyond me. I hate that such a big building downtown is nearly empty but 191's problems have more to do with the building management than it does with anything wrong with downtown.

Both Home Depot and UPS own their current campuses so they can't just up and move. Cox is stuck in their current location due to a sweatheart tax deal they got for locating in their current spot. So that leaves only Coca-Cola Enterprises as a large possible tenant. I doubt anyone large is going to move from Buckhead or Midtown to Downtown unless they run into the same type of hard ball negotiations with their current landlord, which is unlikely.

Hi!!

I'm a Floridian frequently transcending the state lines and staying in Atlanta and was wondering if anyone could point me to a picture showing Novare's finished towers in the city? I'm especially interested in the one that looks to be just finishing(ed) recently.....

We have four Novare projects popping out of the ground here in Tampa with very similar looks and I was curious to see the finished project.

191 could be filled up quickly, but the building management wants another huge tenant like King & Spalding instead of hundereds of small ones. Unless they can convince a large tenent from OTP to move in, I don't see where this huge tenant is going to come from. As far as I know, there are no large Fortune 500 companies currently looking to relocate from another city to Atlanta. There are tons of small and mid sized companies that would jump at a chance to be in the 191 if the price was right and the management was interested in having them. Hopefully those managing the building leases aren't the same ones who lost King & Spadling because it didn't have to happen. They thought that K&S would never leave so they played hard ball with the firm at a time when others in town were dying to find an anchor tenant for a new building or to fill up existing empty space. Why on the earth they thought they could play hard ball with a bunch of lawyers is beyond me. I hate that such a big building downtown is nearly empty but 191's problems have more to do with the building management than it does with anything wrong with downtown.

Both Home Depot and UPS own their current campuses so they can't just up and move. Cox is stuck in their current location due to a sweatheart tax deal they got for locating in their current spot. So that leaves only Coca-Cola Enterprises as a large possible tenant. I doubt anyone large is going to move from Buckhead or Midtown to Downtown unless they run into the same type of hard ball negotiations with their current landlord, which is unlikely.

Very interesting stuff Aubie. I think K&S needed to move to Midtown as they saw their legal competition continuing to make 14th Street Atlanta's legal focus.

I'm not trying to focus on the negative, but this is exceptionally bad timing for a building like 191 to go searching for large renters. AT&T/SBC's takeover of BellSouth will leave something like 10 million square feet of real estate in a questionable position. The new AT&T will keep a large percentage of that office space (hopefully 75%+), but I don't think BellSouth's glitzy headquarters at 14th and Peachtree will be needed. That is a Fortune 500 headquarters building and with the new AT&T pretty securely planted in San Antonio I can't imagine them needing the 14th and Peachtree property. So that extra chunk of empty office space on the market will lower the price per square foot in Midtown, taking away the competitive advantage that Downtown will get when 191 empties out.

I'm sure 191 won't end up being boarded up; they will find a major tenant or they will end up settling on a number of smaller ones.

http://www.novaregroup.com/images/portfolio/atlantic.jpg



THE ATLANTIC

State Street and 17th Street
In Atlantic Station
Atlanta, GA 30363




400 units
46 stories
One-, two- and three-bedroom homes and penthouses
Premium features and amenities
10,000 sq feet of street-level retail space
Sales expected to begin June 2006
Construction expected to begin Fall 2006

^^I like it and I like it's 46 stories too. It kind of reminds me of a building in Charlotte. One of the tallest in Uptown.

^That's a much better offering from Novariation.

That's a much better offering from Novariation.

It's soooo true!! :)

I'm assuming this has the same copy and paste design as the other dozen Novare towers in Atlanta? I sure wish someone besides Novare were designing these things.

Uh-oh...Atlanta appears to be losing #1 spot in SE. Nashville's Signature Tower appears (according to a person who said he actually saw the latest model) to be 65 stories and 1,047 feet tall. I still find that hard to believe but we'll see. I wouldn't doubt the 65 floors but I would have guessed about 930' tall.

1047 feet could be correct. It depends on what type of decoration they put on the top of the building.

But since Miami apparently is building something even taller, Nashville's tower, if it gets built the way your source say it will, ends up as #2.

But as I've said many times before, super tall buildings are nice but I'd much rather have ten well designed six story buildings that engage the street than one sixty story tower.

I think that having the tallest building outside New York and Chicago (in the US only) was an interesting achievement for Atlanta with the Bank of America tower, but with so many 1000 footers being built in China, Dubai and other cities, it's good enough for me that Atlanta is just in the 1000 foot club.

Uh-oh...Atlanta appears to be losing #1 spot in SE. Nashville's Signature Tower appears (according to a person who said he actually saw the latest model) to be 65 stories and 1,047 feet tall. I still find that hard to believe but we'll see. I wouldn't doubt the 65 floors but I would have guessed about 930' tall.

dont hate! we just might have to face the fact that nashville will soon beat atl in height.

lol

^^Let it happen. I think that most Atlantans didn't even know that the Bank of America building was the tallest US building outside of NY and Chicago. We were only a few feet taller than the Library Tower in LA anyway.

The Petronas Towers in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia became the tallest buildings in the world a few years ago, before Taipei 101 was built, but I've heard that only one of the attached twin towers is even occupied. The other one is vacant.

but you know atl will come up with something. you guys will be back in no time. lol

We're taking up a collection to increase the length of the spire on the BofA :)

But since Miami apparently is building something even taller, Nashville's tower, if it gets built the way your source say it will, ends up as #2.

I remember reading that Miami's downtown is limited to 1000' by the FAA due to it's location in relation to flight paths into and from Miami International Airport.

Perhaps. I just remember someone bragging on here (or maybe SSP/UP) that Miami was building a tower taller than BofA so they'd have the new highrise title. Given the amount of boosterism that goes on in these forums, it wouldn't surprise me if it was all hot air.

Boosterism is rampant but in this case it looks like Nashville is putting their money where their mouth is....1,047 feet in the air. :uh:

I'm happy for Nashville, and I like their new building alot, but Atlanta needs to work on things at ground level (or find smaller tennants for 191 Peachtree!) .

I hope Nashville grows by leaps and bounds, since it's the only cool large city within short driving distance to Atlanta. (Sorry Birmingham!)

Are you sure that you're talking about Nashville when you say "cool" and "large city?"

Are you sure that you're talking about Nashville when you say "cool" and "large city?"



hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha......

*rolls eyes.......


Nashville :tiasd: Atlanta

Nashville looks like a hypodermic needle and Atlanta looks like the monolith in 2001!!

Huh?

Are you sure that you're talking about Nashville when you say "cool" and "large city?"
Having lived in that area at one time (years and years ago), Nashville is at least as "cool" as Atlanta. The country hype is stereotyped as uncool but Nashville isn't just country just like Atlanta is more than CNN, Buckhead, MLK, and a big airport.

As far a big city, Nashville is a big city. Certainly nowhere near as large as Atlanta but to me anything over 1,000,000 metro is a big city. It is all about perspective. To those in New York, Atlanta probably isn't a huge city.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha......

*rolls eyes.......


Nashville :tiasd: Atlanta
What is that picture about? Atlanta's BOA is also a hyperdermic needle. Not sure what that picture represents.

...Great forum. Awesome building sketches & details

The Spire has crashed in the Atlanta Midtown condo market . Just opened Spire, a 28-story building with 388 condos has 104 units on the market--26% vacant. The Bubble has burst.

The builder, Novare, sold out Spire quickly, after enjoying great success in 2002 with the 498-unit Metropolis across the street, but Spire's 96 resellers (flippers?) and 6 owners hoping to rent out their units are in deep trouble.

Prices range from $167k to $768k for 1 & 2bedroom units.
http://ianmarshall.mlsb.com/mls/results_fields.cfm?ClientID=2671&SearchType=Address&HOUSE_NUMB=860&STREET_NAM=peachtree&CITY_NAME=%276198%27

New stuff sells in Atlanta because Atlantans are willing to pay a premium for the latest & greatest--but as Metropolis resellers are finding out--that premium doesn't last long.

Is Atlanta's condo market is going to have a soft landing? New buildings are probably going to do well--just not as well as before. But existing condo owners inside the Perimeter can forget about making a fast buck. In fact, Fulton County property records show that many condo dwellers will lose money. Many had to sell for 10 to 15 percent less than what they paid if they purchased at inflated prices during the 1999-2001 period.

The problem with many condo buyers is that their purchasing decision is based on what they can afford for a monthly payment instead of a realistic resale value 2 to 4 years later. Many find that prices declined two years later instead of rising.

Not to speak of the rest of ATL--just the Midtown area has no less than 1,000 units coming on line and several thousand in the planning stages. Let’s name a few mega projects: Atlantic Station, Plaza Midtown, Centennial Park, Onyx, Aqua, 13th St conversion, and we’re not even considering all the new supply in Buckhead and elsewhere inside the Perimeter.

The resell market for condos is really bad. High interest rates are pushing out marginal buyers and condo speculators.

Who’s hiring? Who’s relocating here beside Louisiana evacuees? Tourism payrolls got a big boost from New Orleans’s woes—we got evacuees in hotels and conventions that relocated here. Ticker counters can’t afford a Midtown condo.

Midtown white-collar condo-paying jobs are booming right? No. Atlanta has a great long-term future, but the short-term is dismal. Besides the announced closure of Ft. McPherson, there are mergers, layoffs, and shutdowns affecting GM, Ford, ATT/Bellsouth, Cingular, Hewlett Packard, Delta—just to name a few. Granted, auto workers don’t live in Midtown.

Resellers don't make a community, people do. I bought my condo four years ago and have no plans on moving anytime soon. Flippers are the same people who kept inflating the price of dot com stocks not because they thought there was any real value there, but because they wanted to make a quick buck.

This will work itself out eventually. The flippers, especially the ones who know nothing about real estate and got into because some friend was bragging to them about how they made 40K selling a condo they never lived in, are going to get burnt bigtime. In general the condo market experiences high peaks and valleys than the single family home market. It will be nice when the flippers who are running up the prices get out of the market so the condos can fall back to their natural price range and have people who want to live there move in. Think about it... why do builders like Novare price their condos where they do when before the building is even completed, it is sold out and the units have shot up in "value"? It's because Novare did market research to find out what a person who wants to live in that condo would be willing to pay. If the flipped price was the true market value, Novare would just charge that and keep the increase themselves. This artifical run up of prices will resolve itself and those units will get filled. It's just an annoying situation in the meantime.

But do remember... traffic is not getting better, gas is not getting cheaper, crime is dropping like a rock in the city (last year was the lowest since 1971) while it's going up in many of the 'burbs, and each person who moves into the city is creating an economic environment that makes urban retail and entertainment possible.

Would I buy a condo right now if I was going to move in a few year? Probably not. But if I wanted a place to live intown and wanted the urban lifestyle, yeah, now would be just as good of a time as any other time.

What I find troubling is this:

The problem with many condo buyers is that their purchasing decision is based on what they can afford for a monthly payment instead of a realistic resale value 2 to 4 years later. Many find that prices declined two years later instead of rising.

Too many people look at a house as a revenue source instead of as a place to live their life. What good does it do to keep moving and flipping homes if you end up 70 years old with a pile of money but discover that you never truely lived anywhere.

A home for most people is their largest investment but it should be a long term one.

Resellers don't make a community, people do. I bought my condo four years ago and have no plans on moving anytime soon. Flippers are the same people who kept inflating the price of dot com stocks not because they thought there was any real value there, but because they wanted to make a quick buck.

This will work itself out eventually. The flippers, especially the ones who know nothing about real estate and got into because some friend was bragging to them about how they made 40K selling a condo they never lived in, are going to get burnt bigtime. In general the condo market experiences high peaks and valleys than the single family home market. It will be nice when the flippers who are running up the prices get out of the market so the condos can fall back to their natural price range and have people who want to live there move in. Think about it... why do builders like Novare price their condos where they do when before the building is even completed, it is sold out and the units have shot up in "value"? It's because Novare did market research to find out what a person who wants to live in that condo would be willing to pay. If the flipped price was the true market value, Novare would just charge that and keep the increase themselves. This artifical run up of prices will resolve itself and those units will get filled. It's just an annoying situation in the meantime.

But do remember... traffic is not getting better, gas is not getting cheaper, crime is dropping like a rock in the city (last year was the lowest since 1971) while it's going up in many of the 'burbs, and each person who moves into the city is creating an economic environment that makes urban retail and entertainment possible.

Would I buy a condo right now if I was going to move in a few year? Probably not. But if I wanted a place to live intown and wanted the urban lifestyle, yeah, now would be just as good of a time as any other time.

What I find troubling is this:


Too many people look at a house as a revenue source instead of as a place to live their life. What good does it do to keep moving and flipping homes if you end up 70 years old with a pile of money but discover that you never truely lived anywhere.

A home for most people is their largest investment but it should be a long term one.

I agree 100%. There is no bubble in Atlanta because there hasn't been a huge runup in prices. A burp maybe with all of the flippers jumping into the market when Spire and Plaza Midtown were being built.

I've noticed on other forums that, for whatever reason, some people want to paint the situation as being "dismal" which I find to be curious and completely off base.

Are you sure that you're talking about Nashville when you say "cool" and "large city?"
Hahahaha...:D

Well it's official. Signature Nashville is 65 floors and 1,047'. And I got to admit...it's the best looking skycraper proposal I've seen in recent years.

Enjoy it now, Nashville, Atlanta won't let that stand for too, too long. :)

@ATL Perimeter: Very interesting reading your post, especially regarding "flippers" because there is very little discussion of them on Atlanta related subforums that I read (mainly this one.) I've obviously seen news reports and articles on flippers in places like Miami Beach and Downtown Miami, where a condo is bought and sold a half-dozen times before they even break ground on the construction site.

Unlike Miami, DC, and San Diego, most of the housing and condo speculation in Atlanta has been limited, I believe, because the growth in value has only been six, seven or eight percent a year. This type of growth maybe higher than many renters would like, but it keeps the developers profitable and provides plenty of condo/housing stock available for new buyers. And yes, there are still plenty of people moving to metro Atlanta, especially immigrants. And while companies like BellSouth will definitely cut many "redundancies" when it has fully completed its takeover by AT&T/SBC, there is a tremendous growth in the number of small immigrant and non-immigrant owned small businesses that will hire new metro Atlantans.

Far fewer jobs are created by Fortune 500 corporations than are by companies with less than 50 employees (usually a lot less than 50 employees.)

What is that picture about? Atlanta's BOA is also a hyperdermic needle. Not sure what that picture represents.

It's just a joke. That's what those weird shaped buildings in the post look like to me. :)

I agree 100%. There is no bubble in Atlanta because there hasn't been a huge runup in prices. A burp maybe with all of the flippers jumping into the market when Spire and Plaza Midtown were being built.

I've noticed on other forums that, for whatever reason, some people want to paint the situation as being "dismal" which I find to be curious and completely off base.

Notice how Atlanta lagged Florida by a lot. ATL is finally adding jobs after
anemic or dismal job growth over the past few years.

Official Employment numbers from the Bureau of Labor & Statistics

Year_____ ATLANTA________US________FL
2000____2.75%________2.17% ________3.71 % change over a year ago
2001____0.52________0.03________1.28
2002___-1.85________-1.13________0.13
2003___-0.97________-0.27________1.13
2004___1.41 ________1.10________3.43
2005___3.05 ________1.55________3.93


Since the peak in March 2001, the ATL MSA grew payrolls by 3.1%.
In comparison, year-over-year payroll growth for March '06 is 3.2%.
The job base in March-2005 was smaller than in Mar-2001, which helps explain why year-over-year comparisons appear prettier than what they are.


Developers please keep building.....In-migration will support demand for new condos--ATL still had large net gains of residents even during the recession. New supply will keep prices somewhat affordable. Median home price was $167k in 2005 (Census). ATL home price appreciation was 6.5% compared to 12.8% for the U.S. Obviously, appreciation varied across the MSA. Better intown than in farflung ex-perimeter areas; hurray for high gas prices.

Dismal is not the overall housing market in Atlanta. You rightly point out that Spire is probably a burp where overzealous purchasers thought they could cash-in rapidly, banking the same success that Metropolis enjoyed.

Fizzy would describe general Midtown condo market conditions. The market is fizzling a bit, perhaps just for the summer. Resale condo activity has demonstrated far less price appreciation in recent years than bubbly markets. However, there are those who paid too much in 1999-2001 who find themselves having to write check at closing time for the balance of their mortgage. Check out http://www.fultonassessor.org/ the sales histories in Park Central, 1101 Juniper as a case in point.

Also, many recent conversions are poor quality construction--notice faded exterior paint, deterioration of marquee signs, mildew, etc. Likewise, the walls in these units are often 2x4 thin, unlike concrete, steel, block, and glass highrises. You've got credit Novare--the skin of these buildings endure the elements well. Too bad ATL officials permitted so many cheaply constructed units, such as Tuscany, Peachtree Walk, Park Central. These structures represent lost opportunities for these land parcels. Even the Mayfair Renaissance supposedly has problems with water damage.



Midtown is homogenous--the ethnic communities don't live in Midtown for the most part (Dekalb County, Buford Hwy, etc.). Have Kids and move to burbs is still ATL.

There are plenty of people in Fulton County with children. Did Alpharetta and Roswell suddenly become childfree zones? There are also plenty of children in the city of Atlanta, but they're mostly minorities so people pretend they don't exist when talking about the need to attract families from the suburbs into the city. Personally, I don't think the city needs to try to be suburbs. Families with children is one of the slowest growing demograhic groups around. They also use way more in the way of tax payer services than they contribute. While I will agree that public education is a good thing for the society as a whole, I do acknowledge that it's terrible for the local tax base. An average family may pay $1000/year in property taxes in a exurban county but have three kids, each of which costs the county $6000 per year to educate. This creates quite a drag on the local government, many of who are just now waking up to the fact that they need more commercial and industrial property to create a balanced tax base. Tax costs aside, I know some will disagree, but I think the success of schools has way more to do with what's going on in the childrens homes than on the quality of the school board or the amount of money spent per child. As the city continues to gentrify, I think you'll see the number of children in city schools actually shrink (this has already started to happen as minority families with many kids move to the older suburbs). You'll also see large improvements in test scores as the schools will no longer be filled with students from unsupportive backgrounds. The suburban schools that now brag about how great they are, will see a decline as they have to start to deal with more and more students from families that are less than stable. Because the cost of living in the city is only going to increase and people in Georgia seem to think that a child must have a half acre yard and a 400 sq ft bedroom, I doubt many middle class or lower class families are going to be left in the city. Since their numbers are already shrinking, trying to change the city to fulfill their suburban desires is not a good choice. Bring on the DINKS, empty nesters, singles, and gays... they tend to put less demands on the government for services and tend to have better incomes, thus putting more money into the local economy.

Yes, many of the condo coversions are poor. Apartment buildings are built to different standards than new condos and to convert the apartments to the standards used for units destined for individual ownership would almost require a tear down. For the most part, many of the conversions really were ownership conversions with minimal physical changes. Also because the converters (can't really call them developers in this context) were trying to sell as many units as quickly as possible, I think you'll find that the condo associations for these complexes are poorly funded. The total monthly costs they used to sell these units were totally unrealistic. The association budgets were kept low by having the seller fund many of the services out of a seperate budget until all the units were sold, at which point the association became responsible for everything. Also many buyers were first time buyers who were directed by the seller to their preferred lenders who were all too willing to do interest only loans and ARMs that will soon become unaffordable.

I agree that many of these properties could have had better uses. Many of them aren't much more than suburban gated apartment complexes with just a couple more floors. But at the time many of the conversions were made, I don't think the city fully realized the large demographic shift that was happening. They were just glad to see some real estate activity that would involve the city ending up with more permanent residents (which creates more stability). Even now I don't know what the city could do differently on conversions. I don't think they could require the buildings be torn down in favor of new development. I guess they could tighten up the grandfathering provisions of much of the zoning and building codes but beyond that, Georgia is a property rights state and the city already gets enough grief for the current set of requirements.

It wouldn't surprise me too much to know that the Mayfair towers have problems since they were built before the current highrise living trend came to be. The most surprising thing to me is that the local developers seem to be learning through trial and error instead of teaming up with developers from cities like Miami and Chicago that have long histories of highrise construction. Novare's Trilogy project is a good example. They had planned a so-so ground level but then took a trip to Chicago to look around Michigan Avenue. When they came back, they redesigned the ground level to be something quite a bit better. Why didn't they do that before the built Metropolis and Spire? Why did they even need to do it when they could have hired someone from Chicago with experience in designing great ground level retail?

While the construction companies they hire may have experience in highrise construction, the developer needs to know what corners can be cut and which ones can not. I live in a Novare building and one stupid thing they did was they got cheap with the door on the exterior of the units the protects the venting from the clothes dryer. Using a lightweight door that did not have padding probably saved them five or ten cents per vent door, or a grand total of ten dollars over the whole building. But the result was that in the slightest wind, there was metal banging on metal. They had to pay to replace all of the vent doors in the building, which probably cost them in labor and parts around $100 per unit, not to mention the bad will is created between them and the residents during the many months it took to get the problem resolved. Anyone who had built a highrise before would have known to not select the cheapest door but to select one a few ounces heavier so it won't flap in the wind and with some padding so that it won't bang around should the wind catch the door.

**great points. can't say I've ever been to Roswell or Alpharetta? So I scratched my school remarks since I forgot Fulton is bigger than Atlanta.

**wow--about underfunded condo associations--maybe a developer could use a well-capitalized condo association as a selling point--to distinguish from other builders that promise a lot and leave the HOA underfunded. I'll have to remember that flapping door story.

**good point about the fiscal burden of school funding---old folks love to opt out of school taxes whenever possible. But, a good school system Does help support property values. I don't know anything about ATL---but I imagine the school system is getting a lot of free money from all the yuppies, gabors, and emptynesters living down here---none of us use the schools.

Elsewhere....
See WSJ quote below:

"Atlanta also benefits from a healthy job market, due partly to the city's role as a regional hub and a magnet for immigrants and conventions. J. Lewis Glenn, president of Harry Norman Realtors, says the total value of homes sold by the big local firm in March was up more than 10% from a year earlier. Unlike Dallas and Houston, though, Atlanta's inventory also is up substantially -- 15% -- from a year earlier, according to SmartNumbers LLC, a local research firm. That bulge should restrain price increases."


According to the article, the ATL forecast is for "job growth through 2008" using Moody's Economy.com numbers. What does this forecast assume for 2007--high U.S. growth, slowdown, recession? Not to mention recent job performance has been weak. Hope the forecast is right.

Note: Housing inventory is up 15%, according to WSJ. In three years, a lot can happen. My bet is sluggish price appreciation for the next two years. Let's hope the economy does not flounder in 2007 and 2008, as it did in previous election cycles (1992), (2000). Btw, the recessions were coincidental to elections--not caused by them.

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John Veil, president of the Novare Group’s TWELVE Hotels & Residences, was on hand April 19 to welcome guests during the grand opening of the sales center for the TWELVE Hotel & Residences Centennial Park, which is located in suite E-105 of The Biltmore, 817 West Peachtree Street in Midtown Atlanta

^^I think that 1000 condos on Centennial Hill will be a tough sell. How much is the asking price for a studio, 1bdrm, 2bdrm?

I'm pissed. Why should nashville...nashville get the title for tallest building outside Chi & NYC? I mean, Atlanta, Houston, Miami, even Dallas...but nashville?! Give me a break.

^ People were probably saying the same thing when Atlanta took the title from Los Angeles in 1993.

But now, 13 years later Atlanta has nearly doubled and Atlanta is a major Metropolis. Perhaps the same could happen in Nashville.

Trump: "I'm doing a project in Atlanta." (http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/stories/2006/05/01/daily40.html?page=1l[/url)

"I'm going to be doing a job in Atlanta," Trump confirmed to Atlanta Business Chronicle Tuesday. "I can't say much about it now because I don't want to jinx myself."

And then, after a short pause, he said, "but it's going to be big."

Trump said he will develop a project with a local partner, who has already been chosen, but stopped short of giving more details.

Mark Randall, managing director of Wood Partners LLC, said he is in discussions with Trump to build two towers, including a 55-story condominium tower, at the intersection of 15th Street and Spring Street in Midtown.

Trump's towers, often branded as Trump International Hotel & Tower, tend to be the tallest in a city and have a distinctive, opulent architecture.

Moving into the Atlanta condo market is a practical next step for his company. Atlanta currently has no Trump-branded developments, while New York and Florida have nearly two dozen.

Plus, several local developers are already developing luxury high-rise condominiums, which are Trump's sweet spot."

Holy crap. This is what I'm talking about.

Staff report

Published on: 05/10/06

LA Fitness is moving into a 46,537-square-foot space in the Atlantic Station mixed-use development in Atlanta.

The health club, to be adjacent to the Regal Cinemas box office and next door to Old Navy on 19th Street, will open this fall.

I'm glad to see LA Fitness (or any health club) moving in. It shows that there is more focus on neighborhood amenities instead of destination shopping. You can't have a work-live-shop-play development if all the shopping is stores that don't cover your day to day needs. Target will be good too. It won't be too long before people living in AS and the immediate adjacent neighborhoods can really live without a car, if they so choose.

^Spring and 15th? Hallelujah. That lot is some weed-infested blight. Never thought it would get something like this.

I'm glad to see LA Fitness (or any health club) moving in. It shows that there is more focus on neighborhood amenities instead of destination shopping. You can't have a work-live-shop-play development if all the shopping is stores that don't cover your day to day needs. Target will be good too. It won't be too long before people living in AS and the immediate adjacent neighborhoods can really live without a car, if they so choose.

I would disagree that Old Navy, Gap and Express "destination" shopping.

I would disagree that Old Navy, Gap and Express "destination" shopping.

They certainly don't have the pull of Z Gallery or Metropolitan Deluxe but they're still not day to day stores. So, I'd still call them destination shopping, just with a smaller area upon which it draws its customers. Of course, LA Fitness, Publix and Target will pull in people from outside Atlantic Station but they're more important to the people living at AS than they are to others.

What is the site going to be next to the one atlantic center plaza, where that building is being demolished closest to the interstate. Can someone give me a map of whe trump is planning to build his condo tower at? Also, is 50 allen plaza still a go, when is it going to start construction? What is the latest news on 855 peachtree? Arent they supossed to start construction this month?

^^Most likely here:

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New Condo Tower and Boutique Hotel on the way at Peachtree and Seventh Streets

Hines, long one of Atlanta’s leading office developers, plans to enter the city’s thriving condo market with a joint-venture mixed-use development at Peachtree and Seventh streets.

Though exact details have not been ironed out, the Houston-based real estate firm and local land and condo barons Loudermilk/Rohrig seek to develop a 200-room boutique hotel as well as a 40-story condo tower on a 60,000-square-foot site at the northeast corner of Peachtree and Seventh extending back to Juniper Street. Hines vice president Kurt Hartman said pricing has not been established for the development, which will total 270 to 300 units, but that the condos would be in the “move-up” category between entry-level and super-luxury. The project is Hines’ first condo development in Atlanta, but with about 33,000 units completed or under development internationally, the firm has extensive condo experience literally all over the world, from New York to Beijing.

For Hines, it’s yet another opportunity to become further intertwined with Atlanta’s true urban fabric, Hartman said.

“It’s just a natural progression and a proven residential location,” Hartman said. “(Novare Group CEO) Jim Borders pioneered it in Midtown on a large scale. It really has the critical mass.”

Hines’ project will neighbor another prominent developer’s initial Atlanta condo development. Cousins Properties recently completed 905 Juniper and has sold all but one of the building’s 93 units, which were also priced in the move-up range starting at around $350,000.

Larry Gellerstedt, president of Cousins’ Office/Multi-family Division, pointed out that condo deliveries reached a new record in 2005, but, given the success of 905 Juniper and other area developments, demand clearly absorbed the new units as the condo market began to evolve.

The first phase of the condo development cycle typically involved entry-level buyers looking at prices starting around $200,000. Midtown’s vibrancy and amenities will continue to draw new condo residents, including the move-up buyers and empty nesters and executives seeking higher-end residences, Gellerstedt said.

“That just shows the maturity of the market and that it’s not just one particular demographic that’s interested,” he said. “Demand is still strong for the right product in the right location

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Interesting article. I think I'm going to pass out. The NY Times finally did an article on Atlanta that wasn't a bash-fest. The writer actually seemed shocked that it had worked out so well, and it wasn't even in NYC.

I saw on Atlanta news this morning a proposal for a 16 story hotel flanked by two 39 story condo towers. Not sure where they are to go but it was reported today. Anyone have details?

I saw on Atlanta news this morning a proposal for a 16 story hotel flanked by two 39 story condo towers. Not sure where they are to go but it was reported today. Anyone have details?

It's just an update on the already under construction project at Civic Center MARTA station. Nothing new.

Rendering for TWELVE 14th St.

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It is the one on the top. The others are ATLANTIC and Trilogy I got it from here (http://www.colliers.com/Content/Repositories/Base/Markets/Atlanta/English/Market_Report/PDFs/Midtown1Q06.pdf)

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JUNE 8, 2006


BY JOHN SCHAFFNER




It is unheard of in Atlanta and just about everybody said it couldn’t be done. But all the utilities—including the existing power lines of Georgia Power—are headed underground along the Peachtree Boulevard corridor through the heart of Buckhead.

Scotty Greene, executive director of the Buckhead Community Improvement District (CID), announced at the Neighborhood Planning Unit (NPU) B meeting this week that Georgia Power had agreed to remove its power lines from street-level poles and put them underground as part of the Peachtree Boulevard project.

“We now have agreement. We now have a deal. We are going to start boring and going underground for the remaining utilities along the Peachtree corridor project on Monday,” Greene told the group. “We solved a lot of problems and a million-dollar problem became a $200,000 problem. We had some creative thinkers in the field. So the remaining poles from Maple Drive to the MARTA station in our phase one will be Xed out.”

Greene said a lot of the credit goes to Brian McHugh, the CID’s project manager, who was working with the Georgia Power Company and Georgia Department of Transportation to make that happen.

The board of NPU-B had been on record as urging the CID and Georgia Power to find a way to move the power lines underground, rather than have them diminish all of the beautification efforts being made as part of the Peachtree Boulevard project. Board members applauded the announcement at the June 6

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Where is Mezzo-Atlanta going to be built? I couldn't find any info on the website about it's location in Atlanta.

Where is Mezzo-Atlanta going to be built? I couldn't find any info on the website about it's location in Atlanta.

In south Buckhead, on the site of the former Macarthur's restaurant, across the street from Justin's on Peachtree Road.

Condos crushing modern buildings

By WALTER WOODS
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 07/02/06

They're the architectural equivalent of swinging '60s bachelors — funky, modern buildings that evoke the Space Age, cocktail shakers and JFK. But many of them are having a hard time surviving to middle age.

In metro Atlanta and around the state, modernist buildings erected from the 1950s to the 1970s — from featureless slab skyscrapers to wacky cylindrical bank branches — are quickly succumbing to the wrecking ball.


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615 Peachtree St., Atlanta's largest surviving example of modernism, is next to be torn down. It's next door to the Fox Theatre, which was preserved.


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In late 1947, the Atlanta Constitution building at the corner of Forsyth and Alabama streets was nearly completed. (The Atlanta Journal and The Atlanta Constitution were separate at the time.)

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The demise of the architecturally cool, the curious and the offbeat is driven by several factors, say a small group of architects and preservationists. Among them: Atlanta's condo craze and the hunger for prime real estate it creates, especially in Midtown and downtown, and decay (many of the structures are approaching 50).

Several choice modernist examples already have been lost, and others have grim futures. The next to go will be one of Atlanta's largest examples, the 615 Peachtree building at North Avenue and Peachtree Street — a neighbor, ironically, to Atlanta's best example of preservation, the Fox Theatre.

Cousins Properties, the Cobb County developer, already has begun demolishing the 1959 tower, most recently a local office for Wachovia Corp. Cousins plans to replace 615 with — not surprisingly — a 30-story tower of newfangled condominium units and other buildings. The complex will be named Fox Plaza.

Many locals, including downtown advocates eager to have new neighbors, see 615's clearing as progress. But, the Fox aside, metro Atlanta has a spotty record of sparing notable buildings, and modernist fans worry the city may someday miss its curious, modern history.

"The public takes these resources for granted," said Tom Little, a local architect and president of DOCOMOMO Georgia, the local branch of an international group committed to saving modern buildings. (The group takes its name from the words documentation, conservation and modern movement.) "We're quickly losing an era of architecture in Atlanta."

Already victims to the bulldozer or marked for destruction:

• Atlanta's Alcoa Building, which the aluminum concern built on Peachtree Street in 1957. "It used cast aluminum screens and aluminum components to show the highest goals of what Alcoa was about," Little said. It was demolished two years ago for the expansion of The Temple, a synagogue next door.

• Midtown's Atlanta Cabana Hotel, a Miami-style lodge where Martin Luther King Jr. and Harry Belafonte were once refused service. It was built in 1960 and torn down in 2002 to make way for condos.

• The Atlanta Constitution building, which the newspaper opened on Alabama Street downtown in 1948. The building, which is on DOCOMOMO's list of endangered structures, is owned by the state and has been slated for demolition to make way for transportation projects.

Losing these landmarks is a shame, said Steven Moffson, an architect and preservationist with the state Department of Natural Resources. The buildings are "hugely important, and part of the landscape of post-World War II America," he said.

'New' trumps 'dated'

Well, maybe, others say. The need for new developments and residents in the city outweighs any sentimentality about a style of architecture, said A.J. Robinson, president of Central Atlanta Progress, a downtown booster group.

In the case of 615 Peachtree, the building is inferior to newer structures, and erecting something new is better for the district, said Robinson, a former developer with architect and developer John Portman.

Robinson said most companies probably wouldn't want to lease suites in a dated building like 615, and condo consumers are even more finicky. Instead, he said, "we should celebrate the fact it's being replaced by new residences."

The demand for new high-rise homes around Atlanta has made developers target many aging structures that for years escaped most people's notice.

Last year, about 4,700 newly built condo units were sold or put under contract in intown neighborhoods, said David Haddow, president of real estate consulting firm Haddow & Co. That's a 74 percent increase over the 2,700 new units sold in the same area in 2004.

Developers like Novare Group, Wood Partners and Cousins are seeking land to build even more units, often at the expense of dated buildings. The Cabana Hotel, for example, was demolished for Novare's hip condo tower Spire.

Modernism is a fuzzy definition for a style of architecture and design that emerged in Europe in the 1920s and immigrated to America during and after World War II. Its migration was both figurative and literal.

Many of its disciples fled the Nazis for intellectual havens like Harvard University.

Glass boxes sprouted

Modernists wanted to celebrate a new age of technology, Moffson said, and they used what were then high-tech building materials like concrete, steel and glass, often in simple forms sheared of Old World ornamentation.

The style's popularity coincided with America's postwar building boom in the 1950s.

Fifty years ago, modernism — and a branch of it known as the "International Style" because its simplicity was meant to translate into any culture — was the preferred look for the modern corporate image, Moffson said.

The United Nations used the style for its New York headquarters in 1951, and companies like Seagram built their own modernist monoliths in capitals of commerce like New York and Chicago.

The concept and its variations endured through the 1960s and 1970s, and its boxy, featureless office floors even helped encourage the cube farm.

In Atlanta, modernist architects built the Atlanta Constitution and Equitable buildings downtown and the soon-to-be-demolished Peachtree Hills Apartments in Buckhead. Modernism also lent itself to a number of smaller, local shops, offices and bank branches.

Around Georgia, modernism cropped up in city halls, fire stations and other post-World War II public buildings, including the University of Georgia's Stegeman Coliseum in Athens.

But things changed. Modernism plummeted out of fashion in the 1980s when public tastes returned to more ornate buildings such as One Atlantic Center and 191 Peachtree Tower.

As Moffson put it, "People have cooled off to glass boxes."

Some rescues

Atlanta, a boom town for decades, has long been a city too busy to fret about old structures, even architectural treasures, preventing progress.

The city lost scores of historic buildings to new projects over the years, and many of them were torn down to build modernist buildings, said Little, president of DOCOMOMO Georgia.

Most famously, the fabulous Fox in Midtown was slated for demolition in 1974 for the putty-colored rectangle that's now BellSouth Corp.'s headquarters. Resistance from locals saved the Fox, and Little thinks he's seeing the first signs of community support for funkier landmarks, too.

Some people love modernism, said Jennifer Sams, owner of City Issue, a Buckhead shop that sells midcentury housewares.

Consumers have recently come to love modern design — at least on a small scale — in things like furniture and art, she said.

"There has always been a contingent of modern followers," said Sams, who opened the shop five years ago. "But since 2000, people's interest has peaked ... it's become very collectable."

And that popularity may be translating to larger structures — some of which have been saved from the bulldozer, Little said.

Bob Amick, one of the area's leading restaurateurs, last year restored a modernist bank branch on Monroe Drive into his latest restaurant, Piebar.

Developers converted the 1940 Wigwam Apartments on Auburn Avenue into new condos in 2003.

City leaders also are working to save the 1959 Paschal's Restaurant, a hangout for King and other civil rights leaders.

"There's a sense of some of them being preserved," Little said. "I think you're starting to see a growing awareness of modernism."

The A-C building is horrid, and it's shameful that it has been a blight upon the city for so long in such a prominent position. Rehabbing it is futile, because it would no longer work in its present surroundings. It was no gem to start with.

615 Peachtree is a vile structure. It deserves not just demolition but public torture: let the people swing hammers and bring down this inhuman block piece by piece and then have its rubble washed away in a giant vat of acid.

Crap deserves flushing. In these cases the preservationists are only being nostalgic.

Now the Winecoff is another matter worth preserving...

Can we eliminate the Bell South tower while we're at it???

I like the new building that is going on in Buckhead in Peachtree St. Looks really good.

Can anyone tell me what happened to the building made by Donald Trump in Atlanta.

Can anyone tell me what happened to the building made by Donald Trump in Atlanta.
Nothing.

Can anyone tell me what happened to the building made by Donald Trump in Atlanta.

One thing to remember is the project that was mentioned was a development planned by Wood Partners. Wood and a Florida developer Dezer were both bidding on the West Peachtree lot and decided to partner on the project which led to the discussions with Trump. Dezer developed a three tower Trump branded project in S. Fla.

Man the Atlanta threads on this site are quiet!

Just in case anyone was wondering

Atlanta Project List - Under Construction

3344 Peachtree - 48 stories, 660 ft - office/residential, Buckhead
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The Mansion on Peachtree - 52 stories, 580 ft - hotel/residential, Buckhead
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Twelve Centennial I - 39 stories, 520 ft - residential, Downtown
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ViewPoint I - 36 stories, 501 ft - residential, Midtown
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Terminus 100 - 33 stories, 485 ft - office, Buckhead
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Realm - 29 stories - residential, Buckhead
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Gallery - 27 stories - residential, Buckhead
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St Regis Buckhead - 26 stories - hotel/residential, Buckhead
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45 Allen Plaza - 26 stories - W hotel/residential, Downtown
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Aqua - 24 stories, residential - Midtown
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Parc @ Buckhead - 20 stories - residential, Buckhead
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Americas Mart expansion - 18 stories - exhibit space, Downtown
Two Peachtree Point - 18 stories - office, Midtown
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201 17th Street - 17 stories - office, Midtown
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Twelve Centennial Hotel - 16 stories, Downtown
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GSU Dorms - 15 stories - Downtown
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55 Allen Plaza - 14 stories - office, Downtown
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Hilton Garden Inn/Park Pavillion - 14 stories - hotel, Downtown
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The former home of Atlanta's failed Planet Hollywood is to be the city's latest small-scale hotel.

Local hotel operator Diplomat Group has paid $11.3 million for the 218 Peachtree Street building, at the corner of Peachtree and Andrew Young International Boulevard downtown, with plans to convert the property into hotel suites and restaurants.

The site is also home to Pittypat's Porch, the "Gone With the Wind" theme restaurant that's been serving since 1964.

After Planet Hollywood closed in 2001, the space was home to a nightclub, Level III, which shut its doors in 2005. The corner was originally home to retailer Lane Bryant.

Run by two brothers, R.C. and Mike Patel, Diplomat Group operates a number of metro-area hotels under the Red Roof Inn and Comfort Inn & Suites flags.

Their downtown hotel project, if completed, would join a number of local "boutique" hotels — inns with fewer rooms that emphasize service and décor.

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I don't think anyone saw this one coming. I don't like the building at all, mostly because it looks like it is being eaten by a parking deck. I think something better could be built on that corner but this is still a welcome development. Hopefully they will open the building more to the street.

Atlanta Business Chronicle - July 28, 2006by Rachel Tobin RamosStaff Writer


Downtown Atlanta could soon get another boutique hotel with two large restaurants, where Peachtree Street meets Andrew Young International Boulevard.

Diplomat Companies' Chairman R.C. Patel says he wants to convert the building at 218 Peachtree St. -- once home to a Lane Bryant ladies clothing store, Planet Hollywood restaurant and, until last year, the club Level 3 -- into Atlanta's Times Square.

He's planning a 120-room boutique hotel, spacious spa and 14,000 square feet of restaurants on the site.

Patel's plans to make the hotel unique include a glitzy façade -- which would face the Hard Rock Cafe, Hooters and Westin Peachtree Plaza -- but he wants to keep details secret for now.

A Brazilian churrascaria, Fire of Brazil, and a Latin-Mexican fusion restaurant, Jalapeño Charlie's, will open in November, anchoring the development. The site also houses the antebellum-themed Pitty Pat's Porch eatery, which will remain intact, and a 336-space parking deck.

The hotel would join a new breed of hotels cropping up around Atlanta, from the tony Glenn Hotel near CNN Center, to a new TWELVE Hotel and W Hotel that are rising at the Ivan Allen Plaza development. In addition to the under-development Winecoff Hotel, these lodges are smaller and offer unique amenities. The Glenn Hotel has a glitzy lobby-bar and is home to b.e.d. Atlanta with a rooftop bar.

Although hotel occupancies in downtown Atlanta are driven by the convention and large meetings business, smaller hotels generally are easier to fill with business and leisure travelers.

Patel said that he likes two boutique hotels in New York City, the swanky Dream and Time hotels. Both are off Times Square, and his hotel could be similar to those. The Dream Hotel has a "very yuppie" feel, said Patel, with a Deepak Chopra spa.

In November, restaurateurs Brent and Terry Gilbertson will open two restaurants. The 200-seat Fire of Brazil will be on the main floor with a large glass window facing Peachtree Street that will show off the Brazilian kitchen, where long skewers of meat are grilled for the all-you-can-eat customers.

"This is a hot corner," said Brent Gilbertson, who has two Atlanta restaurants, and soon will have two more Brazilian barbecues open in Florida.

Within half a mile, he's counted 45 hotels, including convention giants like the Marriott Marquis, Hyatt Regency and The Ritz-Carlton Atlanta.

Gilbertson also recently signed a master franchise agreement with a Bahraini businessman, who is taking the concept to the Middle East and Europe.

Jalapeño Charlie's is a new concept Gilbertson is developing with Paco Rodriguez, a 30-year veteran of the Atlanta food industry.

Brent Gilbertson said the 150-seat restaurant will have a lower price point -- about $10 to $15 -- compared with the $50 average ticket at the Fire of Brazil.

Jalapeño Charlie's south of the border menu will have tapas, tortas, salads and entrees like flautas, grilled shrimp with mango roasted vegetables and seafood paella.

Patel said he also wants to open a New York-style martini-only bar in a small space along the side of the building.

Patel purchased the building for $15.3 million. He plans to install the eight-floor boutique hotel on top of the parking deck, if engineers deem the building capable of handling the construction. He is budgeting $18 million to build the hotel, or $150,000 per room.

He plans to spend about $5 million to improve the building, including $500,000 to improve security and safety in the narrow and curvy deck.

Patel's company owns 1,400 hotel rooms, many near the Atlanta airport like two Comfort Inns, a Red Roof and a Country Inn. He doesn't own any other property downtown, he said.

Yeah I know which hotels he owns in the Airport area. Most of them are in Virginia Avenue etc. Atlanta isn't really booming anymore in terms of buildings, in which hurts!

So, what ever happened to Trump Tower Atlanta?

ATLANTA--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 3, 2006--Cousins Properties Incorporated (NYSE: CUZ) announced today it has reached an agreement to purchase One Ninety One Peachtree Tower, a 50-story, 1.2 million-square-foot office building in downtown Atlanta, from Equity Office (NYSE: EOP) for $153 million or approximately $127 per square foot. One Ninety One Peachtree Tower is currently 51 percent leased and less than 20 percent occupied. The transaction is in due diligence until August 22 and the sale is expected to close in mid-September. The closing is subject to normal contingencies and is conditioned upon the successful closing of Cousins' pending sale of Frost Bank Tower, a 33-story, 531,000-square-foot office building in downtown Austin, Texas, to Equity Office.

Cousins also announced today that it will relocate its company headquarters from Cobb County's Wildwood Office Park to One Ninety One Peachtree during the first half of 2007. Cousins sold its current headquarters building, 2500 Windy Ridge Parkway in Wildwood, to Wells Real Estate Funds in 2004. The move to One Ninety One Peachtree brings Cousins to the downtown landmark that it co-developed with Hines, a Houston-based developer, on behalf of Dutch Institutional Holding Company. The building opened in 1990.

"This completes the circle for our company with regard to One Ninety One and we are delighted to acquire this tremendous hometown landmark - one that we originally co-developed. One Ninety One has enormous value creation potential and I'm certain our team is up to the challenge," said Tom Bell, president and CEO of Cousins.

"Our headquarters move gives Cousins an opportunity to participate in and contribute to the exciting revitalization efforts going on downtown. Our company has always supported a dynamic downtown and now we'll be in a better position to help make it happen," said Craig Jones, executive vice president with Cousins and chairman of the Atlanta Downtown Improvement District.

"It is a thrill to welcome Cousins to downtown. Over the past few years, the downtown business community, joined by city and community leaders, has worked hard to create an inviting environment here and Cousins' decision to acquire One Ninety One and invest in downtown is yet another indication that our efforts are paying off," said A.J. Robinson, president of Central Atlanta Progress. "I look forward to Cousins becoming an advocate for its new neighborhood."

Cousins' move to downtown means the company will not be relocating its headquarters to Terminus 100, its under-construction 650,000-square-foot office building in Buckhead, as it had announced in May 2005.

"Leasing momentum at Terminus 100 has been very strong, as evidenced by the three new leases we announced in May. With the prospects we are pursuing there, we were quickly leasing ourselves out of space and probably would have had to wait for the delivery of Terminus 200 in 2009," Bell said. "The One Ninety One opportunity provides another option - one that will benefit the company, our shareholders and downtown."

So, what ever happened to Trump Tower Atlanta?

From the Atlanta Business Chronicle

Two Trump Towers to Rise

New York Real estate mogul Donald Trump has formed a joint venture with Atlanta-based Wood Partners and New York-based Dezer Properties Inc. to build Trump Towers Atlanta - and the first phase should be ready by 2009.

The project at 15th and West Peachtree streets in Midtown, near the Woodruff Arts Center, will feature two high-rise condominium towers, luxury retailers and desintation restaurants.

Phase I will be 48 stories and include 370 units and 20,000 square feet of retail. Prices will range from the $400,000s to more than $1 million.

Phase II is still in design.

Sales should begin by the end of 2006 and construction is expected to start in early 2007.

Trump Towers Atlanta (Phase I sales begin late 2006, construction start early 2007)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/pincfx/Trump.jpg

1010 Midtown (construction start mid-August)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/pincfx/1010Midtown.jpg

Wow, Trump is dissapointing.

Cousins is already having a positive affect on downtown. According to the AJC, Cousins has announced that the national headquarters of the American Cancer Society is moving to the Inforum. That will bring 550 new employees to downtown and remove 274,000 sq ft from the market.

Hopefully this is a sign of a snowballing effect that will cause downtown to really take off. Given the Inforum's location on the edge of Centennial Hill, I suspect it's going to get a lot of the attention since there is no speculative office space being built and anything custom will have to be in the form of a new tower.

The Downtown core is definitely coming back strong, this is only the beginning.
Excellent news.

Metro Atlanta Chamber reveals plan to attract foreign investment

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or how the empty skyscrapers will be filled.

Atlanta Business Chronicle - 4:36 PM EDT Mondayby Rachel Tobin RamosStaff Writer
Last fall, in the hushed confines of Atlanta's tony Bluepointe restaurant, The New York Times' Thomas Friedman quietly met with 20 civic and business leaders.

The meeting was the brainstorm of the Metro Atlanta Chamber of Commerce, which was seeking ideas to continue Atlanta's long trip to prominence in global trade. Cousins Properties Inc. CEO Tom Bell, BellSouth Corp. Chairman Duane Ackerman, GE Industrial CEO John Rice and Delta CEO Jerry Grinstein all had seats at the table. As they left Bluepointe, they committed to giving their time, energy and money to support a third offensive in Atlanta's international business plan to come on the heels of an international focus after the 1996 Olympics and as the city bid for the headquarters of the Free Trade Area of the Americas.

On Aug. 14, the chamber unveiled that game plan.

The initiative will have a razor sharp focus on attracting direct foreign investment in Atlanta from places such as Europe, Latin America and Canada. And it will target Asia -- specifically Japan, Korea and China -- as potential trading partners and new markets for existing Georgia businesses.

Metro Chamber President Sam Williams said the secret meeting with Friedman was meant to spur their thinking about attracting international commerce.

Friedman told the Atlanta boosters the city is already behind places like Seattle, Houston and Miami, which have been ahead of the curve anticipating the massive changes occurring in the global economy. Friedman's book, "The World is Flat," has become required reading for CEOs and anyone wondering how to run their business in the 21st century. The book's premise is that as technology and education help countries like India and China catch up with the industrialized world, jobs can be outsourced almost anywhere. Financial news services can employ analysts in Mumbai at a fraction of the cost they'd pay on Wall Street, while manufacturing can now be done almost anywhere.

This opens up a world of challenges, competition and opportunities -- ones that Atlanta's leaders don't want to pass by.

The Atlanta chamber already has hired former Delta executive Jorge Fernandez to fill the position of vice president of global commerce. Fernandez' job is to implement the new international plan, which is the handiwork of the chamber's International Task Force, formed in 2005 and chaired by Rice.

With data from McKinsey & Co., the group is going after two kinds of opportunities. The first is to attract foreign investment to Atlanta to build factories or open North American offices, which in turn brings jobs. The second is to find new markets and trading partners abroad for Georgia-based firms. Fernandez said the end goal is to grow jobs in Atlanta. Atlanta is already home to more than 15 multinational companies with operations in 20 countries abroad. And 52 governments have consular or trade offices here.

The Georgia Department of Economic Development is now working to get a Chinese consulate in Atlanta, and Delta Air Lines Inc. (Pink Sheets: DALRQ) wants a direct route between Beijing and Atlanta, hopefully in time for the 2008 Olympic Games in China's capital.

While the countries that would be involved in the FTAA have yet to complete trade agreements to formalize the organization, Fernandez said the traveling to promote Atlanta's FTAA bid has spawned unexpected rewards.

For example, the United Nations has made Atlanta one of only 12 cities worldwide to have a training center for local officials -- International Training Centre for Local Authorities/Actors (CIFAL). During the ambassadorial days of Andrew Young in the 1970s, Atlanta requested the facility. Now, almost 30 years later, during the travels for the FTAA, someone in Geneva remembered Atlanta's request, and the idea became a reality, Fernandez said.

Williams said the meeting with Friedman was expensive, but "it was worth every penny."

"We're not getting our fair share of investment from China and India," he said. "Yet there's hardly a country in the world where an Atlanta company doesn't operate."

Williams believes the new international task force will make companies that are competitors work together to bring more jobs to Atlanta. He coined it "co-opetition," or cooperation and competition.

"And the Friedman dinner triggered it," he said of the chamber's latest thinking.

Friedman told Atlanta's boosters they "can't chase low income jobs because they're going to leave, or smokestack industries. We need to grow knowledge industries," Williams said.

Williams called on United Parcel Service Inc. Chairman Michael Eskew to arrange the meeting. Eskew said he'd recently been on a panel with Friedman in China. Eskew not only arranged the dinner, but introduced Friedman to the dinner club. Friedman's book has a whole chapter on UPS' (NYSE: UPS) global business, particularly its supply chain and logistics services.

Williams added that the McKinsey study showed them no city had a silver bullet. Instead, many concentrated on unique areas of expertise, such as Seattle's immersion programs in other countries for U.S. chief executives.

The announcement of the global program comes as Georgia officials prepare a trip to China to open a trade office in Beijing and lobby for a Chinese consulate in Atlanta.

Meanwhile, city officials, including Atlanta Mayor Shirley Franklin, will fly to China in September, hoping to convince communist officials to give Delta the air route to Beijing. They will also strengthen ties to Chinese business leaders who might open offices or facilities in Atlanta.

Cousins is already having a positive affect on downtown. According to the AJC, Cousins has announced that the national headquarters of the American Cancer Society is moving to the Inforum. That will bring 550 new employees to downtown and remove 274,000 sq ft from the market.

Hopefully this is a sign of a snowballing effect that will cause downtown to really take off. Given the Inforum's location on the edge of Centennial Hill, I suspect it's going to get a lot of the attention since there is no speculative office space being built and anything custom will have to be in the form of a new tower.

What I would really love to see is Cousins spend some bucks on the park side of The Inforum. I know it was originally intended as tech and showroom space, but since it is almost all purely office space they could get rid of those huge truck bays. I could really see them opening up the building with a cool multi-level retail and restaurant space facing the park. It could be a huge sucess.

What I would really love to see is Cousins spend some bucks on the park side of The Inforum. I know it was originally intended as tech and showroom space, but since it is almost all purely office space they could get rid of those huge truck bays. I could really see them opening up the building with a cool multi-level retail and restaurant space facing the park. It could be a huge sucess.

I read somewhere that there is a plan to do exactly what you suggest.


But with all of the efforts to make the area more ped friendly, I don't understand how they could let Coke build the WOC the way its designed. The side facing the park is just AWFUL.

Cool!

I totally agree with you re: Coke.

The park side of the Inforum will have minor improvements made but will continue to be for the most part a loading dock. If I recall correctly, there will be retail put in at the corner of Harris and Centennial Olympic Park Drive. The real question is, since most of the building will be used by the American Cancer Society instead of being the high tech mart building it was designed to be, do they still need so many loading docks? For Cousins the resistence to converting more of the loading docks to retail or office space would be the fear that eventually the ACS moves its headquarters someplace else and then they would not have the flexibility to market the building as anything other than white collar office space. Given the growth in the area and the increase in pedestrian traffic that WOC will bring, the opportunity cost may become too high for them not to convert some of that frontage.

As far as the design of WOC goes, well, Coca-Cola has lots of influence and pretty much took the position that they could do whatever they wanted. When asked about putting in retail along Centennial Olympic Park Drive their response was (and I wish I was making this up) that they manufature soft drinks and don't have the experience necessary to rent out retail space. WTF? I'm sure they wouldn't use such a "we're helpless and can't figure it out" line at their shareholders meeting. I doubt investors would have a lot of confidence in the leadership of a Fortune 500 company that says they can't figure out how to rent out a couple thousand sq feet of retail space.

The treatment along COP Drive is better than originally planned when it was going to be a long blank wall with loading docks. It's now brick and will have some windows into the building. Given the fact that the entire site had to be regraded, I don't think it would have been that difficult for them to build a tunnel from the museum to their parking deck so that the loading docks were hidden inside the deck. The land was already dug up so that expense was already there. But do you really expect a company whose business revolves around selling fizzy sugar water to be very cutting edge in terms of architecture?

http://img.coxnewsweb.com/B/00/78/05/image_4705780.jpg

Atlanta Business Chronicle - 2:33 PM EDT Thursdayby Rachel Tobin RamosStaff Writer

Another luxury project is in the works in Buckhead -- this one with $6 million condominiums, a 300-room hotel and exclusive fashion boutiques that could lure the likes of Prada and Gucci.

In other words, something that might seem more at home on the Champs-Elysées than Peachtree Road.


Developer Charles Ackerman, responsible for Tower Place and the Swissôtel (now the Buckhead Westin), is planning the project at 3368 and 3372 Peachtree, where there's now a Christian Science church and the parking lot for Maggiano's Little Italy restaurant.

Ackerman & Co.'s three-phase development will include 498 luxury condos, 300 hotel rooms and 12,500 square feet of retail space.

He wouldn't disclose the cost, but hinted it will be several hundred million dollars.

Partners in the development include Destin and Atlanta-based hotel developers Sandcastles Resorts & Hotels; Atlanta's Wood Partners LLC for the condominiums; and Bob Day and Joe Wilen's Day Capital.

The architect is Joe Rabun with Rabun Rasche Rector and Reece, also the architect of the Four Seasons in Midtown and the planned Buckhead St. Regis.

In phase one, stores will rise on Peachtree Street, topped by three floors of condos that Ackerman expects to sell for an eyebrow-raising $6 million each.

This comes on the heels of developer John Williams and City Centre Properties LLC's plans for $3 million condominiums at The Mansion on Peachtree, a 50-story mixed-use tower at 3376 Peachtree Road. Both are unprecedented prices for Atlanta.

Phase two of Ackerman's project will boast a luxury, 300-room Hilton hotel, topped by 190 condos in a 43-story tower, with a five-story underground parking deck. (Ackerman says to imagine a Hilton more akin to a Ritz-Carlton.)

A 20-story tower with 300 condos will be built behind the hotel in the final phase.

"This will be the first Hilton Hotel built in Atlanta for 30 years," said Fred Alias, of Sandcastles, whose company has built seven Hiltons. A contractual agreement expiring this year with the owners of the downtown Hilton had prohibited any new Hilton brands in a large radius around the hotel.

Alias said he's in "pre-negotiations" with Paris Hilton to get the celebrity hotel heiress to attend the groundbreaking.
Alias said the hotel will include 10,000 square feet of meeting space, an indoor/outdoor pool, a 20-room spa and a restaurant he hopes will be Atlanta's power breakfast hub and lunchtime equivalent of Brasserie Le Coze, which recently closed in Lenox Square. Sandcastles will manage the hotel.

"This project will really be about quality," Alias said. He's commissioning a sculpture and fountain for the hotel's 1-acre piazza, inspired by Rome's Villa Borghese.

I heard it was 48 floors.
Anyway, that area is going to become so dense.

Buckhead to get Hilton hotel, condos
Company's first new property in Atlanta in three decades

A team of developers plans to build a towering 48-story hotel near the Buckhead MARTA station that will be the first metro Atlanta Hilton hotel in 31 years.

The Peachtree Street hotel tower, to break ground next fall and open by 2009, will have 300 rooms topped by 192 condominiums.

The 48-story Hilton shown in this artist's rendering will have 300 hotel rooms topped by 192 condos.


Sandcastle Resorts & Hotels, which owns and operates Hilton hotels in Destin, Fla., and Alexandria, Va., will develop the hotel, while Atlanta condo developer Wood Partners will develop the residential units, said Fred Alias, a partner at Sandcastle. The developers have signed a franchise agreement with Hilton, he said.

Hilton has been barred from building additional hotels in the Atlanta market for decades due to an exclusivity agreement with the Hilton Atlanta Hotel downtown.

The proposed hotel, to rise on the corner of Peachtree and Stratford roads, will feature rooms with 10-foot ceilings, a 6-story stone facade and a luxury restaurant and spa, Alias said.

"In my opinion this will be the nicest Hilton hotel in the U.S. bar none," he said.

If built, the new Buckhead Hilton would join other high-end lodging entries into Buckhead.

The InterContinental Buckhead Hotel, a 21-story, 421-room tower on Peachtree, opened in 2004.

The 26-story St. Regis Hotel and condominiums — with 150 hotel rooms and 50 condos — is scheduled to open at Peachtree and West Paces Ferry roads in 2008.

The Atlanta Beltline is future for ATL, in the sense that it will take old circular railroad tracks connect them to the MARTA system with transit stops, parks, and new land to develop on. Its the ultimate infill project.

www.thebeltline.org

Updated Atlanta project rundown 8/15/06

Uses: R=residential, O=office space, H=hotel, E=exhibit space
B-Buckhead, M=Midtown, D=Downtown

Recently Completed(1 year)
Realm - 29 stories, R, B (7/06)
Ovation - 26 stories, R B (7/06)
The Reynolds - 15 stories, R, D (6/06)
1180 Peachtree - 41 stories, O M (3/06)
Plaza Midtown I - 20 stories, R, M (2/06)
Plaza Midtown II - 20 stories, R, M (2/06)
Twelve Atlantic Station - 29 stories, R M (11/05)
Spire - 26 stories, R M (9/05)


Under Construction

3344 Peachtree - 48 stories, O/R, 650 ft B
The Mansion on Peachtree - 52 stories, H/R, 580 ft B
Twelve Centennial I - 39 stories, R, D
ViewPoint I - 36 stories, R, M
Terminus 100 - 33 stories, O, B
Gallery - 27 stories, R, B
St Regis Buckhead - 26 stories, H/R, B
45 Allen Plaza/W Hotel - 26 stories, H/R, D
Aqua - 24 stories, R M
Parc @ Buckhead - 20 stories, R B
America's Mart II - 18 stories, E D
Two Peachtree Point - 18 stories, O M
201 17th Street - 17 stories, O M
Twelve Centennial Hotel - 16 stories, H D
GSU Dorms - 15 stories, R D
55 Allen Plaza - 14 stories, O D
Hilton Garden Inn - 14 stories, H D


Proposed/Planned



Twelve 14th Street - 59 stories, O/H/R M *Construction start in '07
Trump Towers Atlanta I - 48 stories, R M *Planned '07 construction
The Atlantic - 46 stories, R M *Expected Fall groundbreaking
The Stratford Hilton - 43 stories, H/R B
Hines Peachtree Tower - 40 stories, R M
Terminus 4 - 40 stories, R B
Terminus 5 - 40 stories, R B
Cityplace A - 40 stories, R B *Construction start in '07
Cityplace B - 40 stories, R B
Cityplace C - 40 stories, R B
Cityplace D - 40 stories, R B
Cityplace E - 40 stories, R B
Cityplace F - 40 stories, R B
Cityplace G - 40 stories, R B
Cityplace H - 40 stories, R B
Twelve Centennial II - 39 stories, R D
Ivan Allen tower - 38 stories, R D
Trump Towers Atlanta, Phase II - 38 stories, R M
50 Allen Plaza - 37 stories, O D
3630 Peachtree South - 36 stories, O/R B *Fall groundbreaking planned
1010 Midtown - 36 stories, R M *Groundbreaking this month
Allen Plaza - @40 stories, R D
Allen Plaza - @40 stories, R D
Allen Plaza - @40 stories, R D
Allen Plaza - @40 stories, R D
ViewPoint II - 33 stories, R M
ViewPoint III - 33 stories, R M
1163 West Peachtree - 32 stories, R M *Construction start in '07
Tower @ Phipps I - 32 stories, R B
Tower @ Phipps II - 32 stories, R B
The Premiere @ Fox Plaza - 30 stories, R M *Late '06 groundbreaking
Atlantis Tower - 29 stories, R D
Terminus 3 - 26 stories, R B *Fall groundbreaking planned
Palomar Hotel Atlanta - 26 stories, H/R
3630 Peachtree North - 25 stories, R B *Fall groundbreaking planned
Lenbrook Square - 25 stories, R B*Sept 12th groundbreaking
Mezzo - 24 stories, R B *Construction start in 60-90 days
Terminus 200 - 22 stories, O B
Luxe - 22 stories, R M
The Stratford Residences - 20 stories, R B
271 17th street - 20 stories, O M
Cityplace I - 20 stories, R B
Phipps Tower - 20 stories, O B
The Brookwood - 19 stories, R B
Onyx - 18 stories, R M*Site clearing started
Buckhead Place - 16 stories, R B
Days Inn site condos I - 15-20 stories, R D
Days Inn site condos II - 15-20 stories, R D
Prominence Two - 14 stories, O B
Astoria @ Aramore - 14 stories, R B *Approved
1753 Peachtree - 14 stories, R B
One Museum Place - 13 stories, R M
Fox Plaza Tower II - O/R/H(?), height unknown M

The Atlanta Beltline is future for ATL, in the sense that it will take old circular railroad tracks connect them to the MARTA system with transit stops, parks, and new land to develop on. Its the ultimate infill project.

www.thebeltline.org

much of the beltline goes through low-density wasteland, and connects neighborhoods distant from URBAN Atlanta that have no connection now or in the future. This is a horrible boondoggle that will do NOTHING to
1.) allieviate traffic
2.) connect neighborhoods to downtown or midtown
3.) connect neighborhoods to neighborhoods (if you're going to take an hour trolley ride from Candler Park to South Buckhead, you're nuts)...these areas are so sparsely populated that you should be taking your bike, car, or moped around. Not a freakin' glorified trolley.
4.) Improve parkland access. A sixty foot wide grassed over median strip is NOT a park!!!
5.) Help Atlanta's infrastructure. Atlanta has serious infrastructure issues, and shouldn't be wasting time and tax money on this project.

Atlanta is struggling to DENSIFY and provide great living in town. Why provide a dorky slow light rail (IT'S NOT EVEN TWO PARALLEL LINES FOR MUCH OF IT!!!) for areas that are NOT dense and are not ZONED to ever be dense. This is a massive waste of time.

Now, I'm not a supporter of more highways. The Beltline does not compliment the MARTA system. Atlanta needs better bus service integrated with the subway, and light rail that works with the subway. Not a pet project trolley to nowhere where people can live in isolated loft spaces and get mugged in low-density wasteland "park" spaces. The Beltline will encourage the worst kinds of hollow gentrification without building upon the vibrant urban growth of Atlanta.

for areas that are NOT dense and are not ZONED to ever be dense. This is a massive waste of time.

Well, that's the trick, isn't it? As much as we like to claim that the city is so different from the suburbs, the truth is that most of the residents, especially those in the single family home neighborhoods, are very anti-density. It appears that they believe high density is good as long as it is constrained to a quarter mile wide corridor surrounding Peachtree Street. I'm not for slapping mega high rises in the middle of a traditionally single family neighborhood but certainly four to five story condos and apartments are appropriate at the edges of the neighborhoods and a bit taller buildings (though probably eight or nine story max) along important corridors such as Moreland and Decatur Ave.

I suspect the Beltline is dead. If buses are chosen as the transportation method, expect to see the city residents do a 180 and turn against it. No one wants buses running through their backyard. Without the transit component to spur development, there will be little TAD money for all the other things that have come to dominate the project.

If done correctly, with LRT and appropriate mixed use density, I think it could have been something quite great. But instead it has become a honeypot for everyone to stick their paws in to get some sweet projects. I suspect that the TAD will fall apart when the transit component is killed and all is left is a bunch of parks and low cost housing reserved for APS employees. Both the mayor and city council have been guilty on this one. Shirley saw it as a way to get the parks she wanted but had no way to pay for, while council members saw it as a way to bring their neighborhood some goodies no matter how tangental they are to the original plan. What is being pushed now is nothing like what was proposed just a few years ago when the Beltline first moved from a student paper to the public eye.

^^ :wtf:
Well I don't think Ive ever read such negative, pessimism since Ive been reading these forums. You two surely must be the life of any party. :rant:

The Beltline is still literally in its infancy, Marta is merely doing the required studies of possible transit options and practically NOTHING regarding the Beltline has been set in stone and its already dead?

Where people can live in isolated loft spaces and get mugged in low-density wasteland "park" spaces :hilarious

These things require long term planning and errors made early on set things on the wrong path. The city has already spent millions of the beltline money on the Bellwood quarry. If you read the budget for the beltline you'll see that the transit component that makes the whole thing possible isn't the biggest budget item, it isn't even the second largest.

Do you seriously think that all the people over the past five years who have supported the beltline because they were sold light rail or streetcars are going to just shrug their shoulders while a highway is built literally in their backyards? If that had been the plan all along, this thing would have never made it out of Cathy Woolard's inbox. Sorry I won't ignore reality to engage in blind boosterism. There is absolutely positively no way this thing will get built if it is buses. I would say that confronting that fact instead of taking a "don't worry, be happy" approach is much more constructive. This isn't the suburbs we're talking about, people here aren't in love with pavement and automobiles. Those who ignore that fact are in for a very rude awakening.

Yeah, I just love the area a mile and a half WEST of Northside. Can't wait for the city to build mass transit along that hotbed of industry, culture, and commerce. Just as soon as Lewis and Clark get back from their expedition out there. Actually, I work out there all the time, and the betline wouldn't help me get there more quickly. I'd be better off biking.

Finally people in underserved MARTA areas will be able to commute to all of those jobs waiting for them in Candler Park and Virginia-Highland.

All hail the Beltline!

Check this out:

Peachtree Street (http://atlantasouth.2.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=272)

The plan looks nice, but I wish they had rail in the middle. Maybe cut down the two inside lanes? What do you think?

Check this out:

Peachtree Street (http://atlantasouth.2.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=272)

The plan looks nice, but I wish they had rail in the middle. Maybe cut down the two inside lanes? What do you think?

We've all seen this. The Peachtree Boulevard project has been discussed for months.

^Oh, don't spoil the party!

A big reason why the Beltline won't ever happen:

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/atlanta/stories/2006/09/10/0911beltline.html

Just what Atlanta does not need..................

Another huge project planned in Cherokee


Published on: 09/11/06

A development partnership has submitted preliminary plans for another massive community in Cherokee County that will mix thousands of homes with office, commercial and retail space.

The project, dubbed Canton West, encompasses 2,341 acres in west Canton and Cherokee County along Ga. 108 and Ga. 140. Partners have been working out details for some time, but the plans were submitted to the Atlanta Regional Commission for review last week. The ARC will look over the plans, may make suggested changes and will find that Canton West is either in the best interest of the region or not. Their decision can carry weight with local authorities, who must approve the rezoning and plans necessary for continued development. It is one of three massive Cherokee County communities announced in recent weeks.

Last month, Stephen Macauley announced plans for a 4,000-acre, 12,000 home community on Lake Allatoona, just south of Canton West.

Also recently, the Johnson Co. announced it was taking over development responsibility for an 8,200-acre community, Lake Arrowhead, north of Canton West.Canton West will have 3,080 homes, 449,000 square feet of retail space, 150,000 square feet of offices and 30,000 square feet of commercial buildings.

— Christopher Quinn


Top reasons not to drive solo

The Clean Air Campaign, a public-private group dedicated to reducing air pollution in metro Atlanta, asked commuters to submit the best reasons to get to work by car pooling, taking mass transit, walking, bicycling or other alternatives to driving alone. The following were selected as the top 10 reasons; the authors received a $20 gift card from Target:

1) How else could I sleep through the commute and get to work on time?

2) Since I avoid road rage, I can use my vocabulary for good and not evil.

3) It's the least I can do to help my son — and others who suffer from asthma and related breathing problems — to breathe a little easier every day.

4) I drove my last car for 13 years and just bought another one, thanks to clean commuting. If I drove to work each day, my vehicle would only have lasted five or six years.

5) I can eat whatever I want! Well not really, but biking 20 minutes each way every day sure helps keep the waist trim.

6) My car pool buddies keep me entertained! They make me laugh all the way to work, and on the way home we laugh about our good/bad days.

7) I need a stress-free morning in order to work well.

8) It's like getting a raise since each person in our car pool typically drives only once a week.

9) A top reason to have a clean commute is to improve your marriage ! My wife greatly appreciated it when I changed to a car pool because she knew I'd be leaving work on time every day and knew when to expect me!

10) It makes me feel good. I've always complained about the air pollution and traffic. Now I'm fixing it.

To learn more about how to be a "clean commuter," go to www.cleanaircampaign.com.

— Stacy Shelton


Master plan for Canton village

Sivica Communities is developing Park Village, a master-planned community in Canton. The new neighborhood will have 600 homes on 140 acres in Canton at I-575 and Fate Connector Road. The community will have a nine-acre park, community fire pit, sidewalks on both sides of the streets, a pool and Wi-Fi accessibility in all common areas. Homes are expected to range from $170,000 to $500,000.

— Christopher Quinn


High-rises prompt task force

At a time 16 mid- to high-rise buildings are under construction in Atlanta, Atlanta City Councilwoman Mary Norwood thinks the city should consider regulating the location of future skyscrapers and how they are oriented toward existing buildings.

Norwood asked the City Council to create a task force to consider protecting the views of existing buildings. Thirteen members, representing development, business and neighborhood communities, would have six months to decide whether the view corridors should be protected. Another goal of Norwood is to make sure new buildings don't block all the sunlight from reaching its neighbors and hindering air circulation.

The best-known example in Atlanta involves the residential tower in Buckhead where rock star Elton John keeps a condo, Park Place. Residents howled five years ago when the 17-story luxury Post Peachtree tower blocked their views of Midtown and downtown. Many said the din of air conditioners ruined the tranquility of their balconies.

"I'm always interested in the built environment of Atlanta and how it enhances our quality of life," Norwood said. "Issues of air circulation, sunlight and whether some percentage of a view should be protected ought to be thoroughly discussed and analyzed for Atlanta as it's built out to be the city we all desire."

Norwood stirred controversy earlier this year with her proposals to regulate big, new houses on sites where smaller homes are torn down. Atlanta Mayor Shirley Franklin temporarily froze construction of infill houses in some hot intown neighborhoods and told the city's planning commissioner to develop some guidelines. The potential rules may be released this autumn.

— David Pendered


Fairs give glimpse of future

Metro Atlanta planners invite the public to learn about their neighborhoods and the region at transportation fairs in the coming weeks. The fairs are for general information, but those who come may be better prepared to give their input to planners who are changing the region's list of what transportation projects to fund during the next 25 years.

The Atlanta Regional Commission, which is having the fairs, says attendees will be able to learn about population increases expected in their own neighborhoods, and transportation and development plans near their homes. Other information is slated to cover city and county plans, commutes, van pool and other driving alternatives, and transportation services for older adults. The Atlanta Regional Commission is putting on the fairs as part of its Envision 6 effort to get the region to plan for having 6 million residents by 2030.

The first fair is Sept. 21, in Decatur.

At a time 16 mid- to high-rise buildings are under construction in Atlanta, Atlanta City Councilwoman Mary Norwood thinks the city should consider regulating the location of future skyscrapers and how they are oriented toward existing buildings.

Norwood asked the City Council to create a task force to consider protecting the views of existing buildings. Thirteen members, representing development, business and neighborhood communities, would have six months to decide whether the view corridors should be protected. Another goal of Norwood is to make sure new buildings don't block all the sunlight from reaching its neighbors and hindering air circulation.

The best-known example in Atlanta involves the residential tower in Buckhead where rock star Elton John keeps a condo, Park Place. Residents howled five years ago when the 17-story luxury Post Peachtree tower blocked their views of Midtown and downtown. Many said the din of air conditioners ruined the tranquility of their balconies.

"I'm always interested in the built environment of Atlanta and how it enhances our quality of life," Norwood said. "Issues of air circulation, sunlight and whether some percentage of a view should be protected ought to be thoroughly discussed and analyzed for Atlanta as it's built out to be the city we all desire."

Norwood stirred controversy earlier this year with her proposals to regulate big, new houses on sites where smaller homes are torn down. Atlanta Mayor Shirley Franklin temporarily froze construction of infill houses in some hot intown neighborhoods and told the city's planning commissioner to develop some guidelines. The potential rules may be released this autumn.

This bitch needs to move to Mayberry.

A big reason why the Beltline won't ever happen:

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/atlanta/stories/2006/09/10/0911beltline.html


Well good then we can just forget about the Beltline since its never going to happen and move on to other matters.

You always know how to spread a little sunshine. :no:

Some outside of Atlanta news...

I couldn't find the story on teh AJC website, but it was in the Sunday paper. Said they are getting ready to rezone an area around the Chattahoochee (close to 285) for a copuple of 18-20 story condos. They said this would be in East Cobb, but to me this seems more like the SE part of Cobb than true East Cobb. Just thought I would put this out there.

Atlanta Business Chronicle - September 8, 2006by Rachel Tobin RamosStaff writer


While the term "boom" may not quite define Atlanta's current hotel construction, the bust is certainly over.

By 2010, Atlanta will have at least 38 new hotels with 3,831 rooms.

And though that building rate could double and still not catch the peak year in 1996, it appears the dark clouds have lifted.

For years after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, Atlanta saw new projects stagnate or get taken off the books.

The city added only 12 new hotels in 2004 and 2005, with a total of 1,477 rooms, according to data from PKF Consulting Inc. But finally, says Mark Woodworth, a hotel consultant who directs the Atlanta office of PKF Hospitality Research, Atlanta is rebounding, and catching up to construction that already began nationwide.

He has a list of 53 hotels in metro Atlanta -- in planning or development -- that would bring more than 7,100 rooms on line here.

New hotels are springing up in Buckhead to appeal to luxury lifestyles, like the 150-room St. Regis, which will have personal butler service, and a 300-room high-end Hilton.

And Generation X-oriented hotels also have caught fire. Kimpton Hotels & Restaurant Group LLC is planning a 230-room Hotel Palomar Atlanta in Midtown. And Diplomat Companies wants to bring a Times Square flavor downtown with a 120-room boutique hotel.

Plus, millions of dollars are being poured into renovations and reflagging.

Woodworth explains the development is a simple supply-and-demand equation: As occupancies rise, hoteliers can raise their rates. As rates rise, developers know demand is on an upward swing.

Atlanta's average daily room rates have been rising steadily, from a low of $77.47 in 1998 to a high of $79.46 in 2005.

That's always a good predictor of hotel developments, says Woodworth.

He believes Atlanta is at the beginning of a new hotel cycle, but this cycle "will peak at a much lower level" than Atlanta's historic booms in the mid-1980s and mid-1990s.

Development in the 1990s was driven by rising room rates from off-the-charts demand during the 1996 Olympics and a healthy convention business.

Now, Atlanta is following a national trend as hotel-building is gaining favor with U.S. investors.

Ernst & Young LLP said that of more than $100 billion held by real estate private equity funds for investment, as much as $20 billion could be channeled into lodging projects this year.

"We expect investor appetite for hotel deals to grow in 2006, especially in major markets where room rates have shown strength and occupancy rates have improved," Michael Fishbin, director of Ernst & Young's hospitality services, told investors earlier this year.

But don't look for many full-service, one-size-fits-all hotels. The current trends are all about "niche" hotels, catering to the ultra-luxury or ultra-high-tech customer.

Developers often will build these types of properties without worrying about average daily room rates, said Woodworth, because the demand is made by the amenities.

"I don't think Atlanta is ready for more big hotels," agreed Paul Breslin, a hotel consultant and developer who founded Panther Hospitality Holdings LLC last year. He formerly managed the Sheraton Atlanta Hotel, a 782-room convention giant.

Mega-complexes for conventioneers are still going up in Orlando, Boston, San Francisco and Las Vegas, but Breslin said Atlanta's future is in smaller, niche hotels, near attractions like the Georgia Aquarium and World of Coke.

Condo living has also been fueling new hotels. Marrying condos to hotel towers helps developers finance new projects. Condos in hotels tend to capture prices that are up to 40 percent more than condo-only projects, said Woodworth.

Developers can then sell the condos to finance the hotel, which makes the overall project less expensive and risky for institutional investors or banks.

Jim Veil, president of TWELVE Hotels & Residences, a division of Novare Group Inc., said condo owners then create a lot of good buzz for the hotel, which helps keep occupancy levels high.

Still, the barrier to entry is very high, said Breslin, citing land prices, construction costs and interest rates.

"Atlanta has been known that when it goes into a soft cycle, it can be very soft," he added.

Despite the good news, the level of hotel construction activity in Atlanta over the past four years is low. "We could have double the number of projects and still be low historically," he said.

But, he notes that bankers haven't yet "red-lined" Atlanta hotel projects -- deciding they won't fund them -- like they've done in the past.

"In the late 1980s and 1990s, Atlanta's hotel market was red-lined by bankers," said Woodworth, "because there was a broad-based feeling that too much was being built."

Today, Atlanta has 746 hotels with 92,117 rooms, with five hotels opening. And while the average daily room rate is just shy of $80, it isn't near the Olympic rates in 1996 of $86.25.

Still, Woodworth doubts this building boom is close to being over. Anecdotally, he said, 310 people have signed up for a lodging outlook summit he's organized on Sept. 11 -- 100 more than his previous record.

Atlanta Business Chronicle - 10:22 AM EDT Thursday
As first reported by Atlanta Business Chronicle in August 2005, Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide Inc. and Barry Real Estate Companies Inc. will develop a W Hotel in downtown's Allen Plaza complex..

The companies on Sept. 21 officially reported their agreement to build the W Atlanta Downtown Hotel & Residences mixed-use tower set to open in 2008. The 28-story tower will be constructed at 45 Ivan Allen Jr. Blvd. and will feature 237 hotel rooms, 76 luxury condominiums and 10,000 square feet of meeting space. The project will include a signature restaurant, bar, and, as part of W's exclusive partnership with bliss, the beauty brand beloved by celebrities and fashion insiders, the W Atlanta Downtown will open with a luxurious bliss Spa.

The hotel also will boast the city's first hotel-topped heliport to whisk guests and residents from downtown to a variety of points across the metro region.

"Special business guests and residents will fly to our hotel via helicopter after arriving at Peachtree-DeKalb or Charlie Brown airports," said Hal Barry, founder and chairman of Barry Real Estate Cos. "I envision celebrities and other VIP guests avoiding traffic and crowds by flying to their suites or homes aboard our helicopter."

Pickard Chilton Architects is designing the building with floor-to-ceiling glass and an outdoor terrace, while BurdiFilek Interior Design out of Toronto is completing the vision for the interior spaces, including the condominiums.

Coldwell Banker The Condo Store has been hired to market and sell the property. Construction on the foundation and parking deck underneath the structure has already begun and work on the tower is expected to begin in the first quarter of 2007.

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SEPTEMBER 29, 2006


Miller Gallman, long-time developers in the Castleberry Hill neighborhood, have announced a new mixed-use condominium development, Castleberry Point. The four-story building blends contemporary design with nostalgic flatiron, maintaining the historical and architectural integrity of the neighborhood while infusing 35,000 square-feet of street-level retail and restaurant space.

Construction is scheduled to begin this fall, and homes will be available by early 2008. The development is a testament to the evolution of Castleberry Hill, a true loft community in Atlanta. A preview of the new development will be on display at Wertz Contemporary at 264 Peters Street during the Castleberry Hill Loft Tour on October 7-8.

The Castleberry Point Sales Center will provide day-long activities during the Castleberry Loft Tour, including the opportunity to meet the judges of the tour, lectures on the past, present and future of Castleberry Hill, and cooking demos by OWC, a restaurant set to open in Castleberry Hill later this year.

“We’ve come full circle in Castleberry Hill with this project,” said Bruce Gallman of Miller Gallman. “Castleberry Point is verification that Castleberry has evolved since we stared developing here in the 1980s, to become a thriving cultural district and a gateway to downtown Atlanta and Castleberry Hill.” Blending compatible neighborhood design while aiming to unify the area with Downtown Atlanta, Castleberry Point strives to be a gateway between Castleberry Hill and Centennial Olympic Park Drive. Castleberry Point will occupy a diamond-shaped block surrounded by Nelson, Centennial and Chapel Streets, strategically placed for views of the downtown skyline. Castleberry Point contains 108 one-, two- and three-bedroom homes, ranging from 748 to more than 2,500 square-feet, with various floor plans available, including five live/work spaces. Prices range from the $160s to the $700s

^ Micropundit - that really looks wonderful doesn't it? I love seeing the smaller-scale infill developments, these projects make such a massive influence on the city neighborhoods. I would really love to see the condo on Memorial Drive's status now in N Grant Park, my ex-neighborhood.

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I go to the mountains for a few months and you guys become so pesimistic. The Beltline will happen in spite of dumbasses like Sonny and Wayne. It is going to take a very long time. The Idea is too good and it is inline with the way people will be living in years to come. Atlanta has to lead the region even if they are not listing very well, sooner or later they will.

by the way I am real disapointed in this palomar building. That block had one of the few buildings in thea area worth using in afuture project and it totally wipes it away. The two story brick structure should have been incorporated into the project.

The Midtown Mile---LOOK

http://www.midtownmile.com/Docs/Midtown_Mile_Buxton_Demographics_6_2006.pdf

As far as high rises go this Palomar is fine but why not use the existing Brick building in the facade that faces west Peachtree. It seems to be in good shape and that area could use the texture it would have given the streetscape. Everything else in the area (excluding protected structures)will have to be new from now on.

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Atlanta's Peachtree to Gain Another Midtown Mixed-Used Tower

Commercial Property News
October 25, 2006
By Amanda Marsh

Atlanta's bustling Peachtree Street will soon have another mixed-use building calling Midtown home. A joint venture of Jamestown Properties and Shailendra Group have purchased 1.7 acres on the corner of 17th Street for the future home of 1400 Peachtree.

The joint venture plans to develop a high-rise tower with office, a four or five-star hotel, upscale retail and higher-end residential components, which will mark the first vertical mixed-use property in Atlanta to combine the four uses. Although the building's design is still in planning stages, the joint venture has entitlement rights to 900,000 square feet of space. It plans to break ground by January 2008, with an estimated 30-month build-out.

"Midtown is the strongest growth market in Atlanta," Paul Shailendra (pictured), Shailendra Group's principal and development manager, told CPN. "With its infrastructure and transportation, it has the best chance of becoming a 24/7 live, work and play environment." The building will be located in the heart of the city's cultural center, only one block north of the High Museum of Art and Woodruff Arts Center.

--- This was posted in Skyscraperpage by KevinAtl

This building could end up being pretty tall. BOA is 1.25 million square feet, but it is on a site almost double the size of this.

If this does get built, could it become Atlant's new tallest given it would have to be built taller sicne the land area is less?

Wow, that would be great. I would be so happy if this was a new tallest.

Towers add to S. Cobb push to be metro hub:

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/cobb/stories/2006/11/02/1103biztowers.html

As part of a grand effort to create a citylike professional and social center in south Cobb County, a developer has won the right to build a prominent pair of high-rise buildings beside a new performing arts center and overlooking I-75.

Williams' Grove Street Partners plans a 15-story office building and an 18-story hotel-condominium tower, as well as ground-level restaurants, shops and a central plaza.

The towers would complement the $145 million arts center, set to open next year as the new home of the Atlanta Opera, and the burgeoning Cumberland-Galleria area, home to corporate headquarters such as The Home Depot and Russell Athletic.

Developers plan a 35-story luxury condo tower at Cobb Parkway and Cumberland Boulevard, Cumberland Mall has just enjoyed a significant face lift, and the Galleria Mall is due for a redesign. The area one day could be home to a mammoth $93 million bus transit station elevated above I-75.

As metro Atlanta's population grows, certain key areas in the suburbs begin to build up, Voyles said. "It's the logical pattern of growth — you have additional downtowns."

Grove Street Partners, in which Williams is an investor, beat out two other developers, Cousins Properties and Colonial Properties Trust, in a bidding process to develop 5 acres of surplus land next to the Cobb Energy Center.

The seven-member Cobb-Marietta Coliseum and Exhibit Hall Authority, which bought the site for parking three years ago, chose Grove Street last month.

Grove Street was the high bidder in the process, offering to buy the site from the authority for $12.5 million, compared to $10 million offered by Cousins and $8 million by Colonial. The authority is now negotiating a contract with Grove Street.

The hotel-condo building will include 200 hotel rooms in 12 floors and 38 condo units, according to the company's proposal. The office tower is described as having 350,000 square feet of office space.

Two 40-story towers planned for Midtown
$450 million project includes offices, hotel, condos

By WALTER WOODS
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 11/09/06

Developers Daniel Corp. and Selig Enterprises are planning a major mixed-use development with twin 40-story towers near the Atlanta Federal Reserve.

The developers have under contract three acres at 1075 Peachtree St., between 11th and 12th streets, and plan to break ground on the project early next year. The development would open in 2009.

The site was owned by the trustees of the late local benefactor Michael Carlos.

The $450 million project will include 668,000 square feet of office suites, 400 hotel rooms and 100 condo units. The project will be across the street from Daniel and Selig's previously announced condo project, 1010 Midtown.

Both projects will have significant and large retail components as part of the Midtown Alliance's strategy to create Chicago-style retail along Atlanta's most famous avenue.

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There's no slowing down in sight for Atlanta.

So, the folks who assured us that the sky was falling were wrong ?

By Jill Lerner and Lisa Schoolcraft

Two powerful developers plan to build a $1.1 billion, 2.5 million-square-foot mixed-use development spanning three city blocks at the intersection of Peachtree and 12th streets--the most dramatic step yet toward the realization of a "Midtown Mile".Dubbed "12th & Midtown", the project will feature more than 1.2 million square feet of class A office space, more than 500 hotel rooms, more than 600 residences and, notably, what is being planned as Atanta's first flagship shopping destination; featuring up to 150,000 square feet of multi-level retail space, complete with 35-foot-high storefronts and graphic displays, akin to those found in Chicago, Miami and New York.

The project is being developed by joint-venture partners Daniel Corp. and Selig Enterprises Inc., along with Magic Johnson's real estate investment firm.

Atlanta-based architecture firm Rule Joy Trammell + Rubio is designing the project.

With control of the three city blocks at the corner of Peachtree and 12th streets, the venture becomes the single largest contributor to the Midtown Mile, an initiative of Midtown Alliance and the city of Atlatnta to create an outdoor shopping destination.

Scott Selig, vice president of Selig Enterprises, said their vision is based on Chicago's Magnificent Mile and New York City's Madison Avenue, which members of the joint-venture visited when crafting their plans for 12th & Midtown.

Officials say the project's retail which will consist of multi-level flagship stores on Peachtree Street and smaller, eclectic retailers and restaurants on Juniper, 12th and Crescent streets - will be the amenity that drives the rest of the development.

Daniel Corp.'s Baile assembeld the land over the past three years from the Michael C. Carlos and Andrew Carlos estates.

He said the project, whose first phase, 1010 Midtown, was announced in August was intended to be a three-block development from the start."That's one of the reasons we've been quiet until now. We wanted to make sure it was going to happen."

Construction of the first phase, 1010 Midtown, is under way.

Phase 2, at 1075 Peachtree St, is expected to begin construction in the spring. It will include a 725,000-square-foot class A office tower, up to 60,000 square feet of flagship retail space and a 400-room luxury hotel topped with 100 upscale residences.

The third component of the project, Phase 3 at 1125 Peachtee St., will include an additional 500,000 square feet of class A office space, 40,000 square feet of flagship retail and also a boutique, five-star hotel topped with a select number of high-end residences.

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Phase 3: located at 1125 Peachtree Street

The third component of the project will include an additional 500,000 square feet of Class A office space, 40,000 square feet of flagship retail and a boutique, five-star hotel topped with a select number of luxury residences

MetLife Inc. plans to build 350 condos, more than 650,000 square feet of office and 30,000 square feet of retail at its Midtown Heights location near 17th and Spring by 2010. The new office building will be big enough to rival the most prominent skyscrapers in Midtown. The building is the second major office project announced for Midtown this fall.

Alabama-based Daniel Corp. said last month it's teaming with local retail developers Selig Enterprises to build a 40-story, 668,000 square foot office tower at Peachtree and 11th streets by 2009.

Both new skyscrapers, if built, would be roughly the same size as Midtown's latest landmark, the 41-story, 670,000 square foot 1180 Peachtree building, which opened in March.

Coke and Stone Mountain to create winter wonderland: from the Atlanta Business Chronicle

Stone Mountain Park and The Coca-Cola Co. are teaming up to guarantee a place for Atlanta's families to really chill out in 2007.

The Atlanta-based beverage giant and Georgia's most-visited attraction announced jointly on Wednesday the creation of Coca-Cola Snow Mountain -- a family snow park opening in November as part of Stone Mountain Christmas.

"Using state-of-the-art equipment, Coca-Cola Snow Mountain will feature more than 200 tons of fresh snow daily," said Anthony Esparza, vice president of guest experiences with Herschend Family Entertainment Corp. "To our knowledge, this is the first time in the U.S. an outdoor snow park of this scope has been created in this type of climate."

The family snow park will be set up on Stone Mountain's "laser lawn," with three football fields of deep snow, a 400-foot tubing hill with 10 tubing runs and a 13,000-square-foot play area. It will feature places to make the snowmen and snow angels, a snowball making zone and an area for younger kids. The snow park will have places to view the activities, including a snow lodge with an observation deck, a group of warming chalets and a bonfire for roasting marshmallows and making s'mores.

"Research indicated nearly 70 percent of Atlanta area kids had never experienced real snow, and only 40 percent of Atlanta families have experienced snow as a family unit," said Gerald Rakestraw, vice president and general manager of Stone Mountain Park. "Coca-Cola Snow Mountain seemed like a great opportunity to address that gap and give Atlanta families a first-of-its-kind snow attraction close to home."

The snow park is set to be open all weekends from Nov. 10, 2007 through Jan. 27, 2008, plus everyday during the Christmas holidays. Coca-Cola has already agreed to be the attraction's title sponsor.

"We believe this new park will draw families together by appealing to everyone, from the young to the young at heart," said Brad Taylor, global director of entertainment and customer alliances for Coca-Cola North America.

ASO signs deal to create Alpharetta amphitheater:
$35 million park expected to open in May 2008

The 12,000-seat venue, planned for 45 wooded acres across Ga. 400 from North Point Mall, is expected to open in May 2008. The park would host a variety of events, from big-name pop acts and touring Broadway shows to community affairs such as high school band shows and graduation ceremonies, as well as a few summertime ASO performances.

ASO expects to have architectural plans drawn up by March, and hopes to break ground soon after, the basics have already been decided. The amphitheater will be located on a natural, bowl-shaped hillside. Stage facilities will be modern, with a fan-shaped roof covering 7,000 seats and space for another 5,000 patrons on the lawn. In basic design, it is similar to many other performing arts parks, such as the Boston Symphony's Tanglewood Music Center or Wolf Trap Farm Park outside Washington, D.C.

Originally Posted by gttx
The ABC is pretty good today - it also mentions a few things about these projects:

Trump Towers plans to break ground June 1 - they have financing and the general contractor all taken care of

One Museum Place also plans to break ground June 1 (well, to start demolition of the site) - this is the Weiland condo/art gallery project

Metropolitan Center , MetLife's project at Spring and 17th, will break ground in August with a 27-story office building and a 30ish story apartment tower.

12th and Midtown Phase I - while this wasn't featured, it was mentioned in passing that they plan to break ground on the 725,000 sq ft office tower (all spec) in the spring.

The Atlantic is now under construction.

1400 Peachtree was referred to a few times, which is a property owned by the Jamestown group. When will we see information about this?

Mandarin Oriental is coming to Midtown!!
Lots of news in this week's issue. A couple more bits

Atlantic Station as widely reported is seeking a 400-500 room hotel and could start construction immediately once a deal is signed.

Planning is underway to convert the Medical Arts building to a 180-room boutique hotel. Yeah! It doesn' list the developer but says "c/o architect Leo A Daly Co."

They also list a boutique conversion planned in Midtown on West Peachtree street

I took some photos of the cranes/construction around Lindbergh Station and Buckhead this afternoon:

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And the obligatory skyline shot from tonight:
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How tall and floor count for the Mandarin Oriental,anybody...and are there renderings for this project,already. For the city to snag a Mandarin says a lot. Atlanta's definitely on fire

Just found out the Mandarin Oriental hotel will be 54 floors and over 700 ft tall located in midtown atl near 1180 ptree building...

Just found out the Mandarin Oriental hotel will be 54 floors and over 700 ft tall located in midtown atl near 1180 ptree building...
That building will be a great addition to ATL's growing skyline. Atlanta is skyscraper happy and I love it!

April 09, 2007
By Michael Fickes, Contributing Correspondent

MetLife has invested in a joint venture preparing to break ground on the second phase of a $1.1 billion mixed-use project in Atlanta called 12th and Midtown (pictured). Daniel Corp. and Selig Enterprises are the other joint venture partners. The overall development goal is to create Atlanta’s version of Chicago's Magnificent Mile or New York City’s Madison Avenue.

While declining to provide specifics about the MetLife investment, Tom Coakley, head of MetLife's real estate investment group in Atlanta told CPN today that the MetLife investment is predicated on the belief that the Atlanta is a growing market. "This mixed-use development is also consistent with our strategy and fits in nicely with our plans to grow our portfolio," he added.

Scheduled to begin construction this summer, the second phase of 12th and Midtown will feature a 725,000-square-foot Class A office tower, up to 60,0000 square feet of flagship retail space, and a 400-room luxury hotel topped with signature residences.According to Grubb & Ellis Co. research, Atlanta's midtown submarket is one of the most active of the 17 submarkets in that metropolitan region. During 2006, midtown absorbed 804,813 square feet of office space, behind the North Central and Roswell Alpharetta submarkets, both of which absorbed more than 900,000 square feet of space. Buckhead/Lenox ranked fourth with just 266,310 square feet.

Class A office asking rents in Midtown are $23.62 per square foot, second highest in the metropolitan area. Buckhead/Lenox is first with $25.29 per square foot.

The first phase of the development, being constructed by Daniel Corp., Selig, and Canyon-Johnson urban Fund, includes a 35-story high-rise with 443 residences and up to 50,000 square feet of retail and dining space.

Phase three will include 500,000 square feet of Class A office space, 40,000 square feet of retail space, and a boutique five-star hotel topped with residences. Daniel Corp. and Selig have not announced a joint venture partner for phase three yet.

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s313/thrashatl/1138_Peachtree.jpg


1138 Peachtree St.



Floor Count: 54
Height: ~700 ft
Hotel: 190 rooms
Residences: 67
Parking: 6 levels
Spa: 3 floors (20 floors up)
Hospitality: ballrooms, conference areas
Retail: 10,300 sf



http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s259/gtg326y/mandarin2.jpg

^^This isn't fair. Quit hogging it all. :lol:

Oh my, Oh my, the Mandarin is quite impressive... I love those illuminated panels. They are going to be beautiful when lit up at night. I don't know which one I like best, Mandarin Chicago or Mandarin Atlanta. Great one Atlanta... I'm sure more architectural marvels to come.

Under Construction


3344 Peachtree - 48 stories - 650 ft
The Mansion on Peachtree - 42 stories - 580 ft
The Atlantic - 46 stories - 540 ft
Twelve Centennial Phase I - 39 stories - 501 ft
ViewPoint Phase I - 36 stories
1010 Midtown - 35 stories
Terminus 100 - 33 stories
10 Terminus Place - 32 stories
W Atlanta Downtown Hotel - 28 stories
Gallery - 27 stories
St Regis Hotel - 26 stories
Lenbrook Square - 25 stories
Aqua - 24 stories
Mezzo - 22 stories
Luxe - 22 stories
Parc @ Buckhead - 20 stories
Americas Mart II - 18 stories
201 17th Street - 17 stories
Hilton Garden Inn - 14 stories
Astoria @ Aramore - 14 stories

Approved - *planned construction timetable

Trump Towers Atlanta, Phase I - 48 stories *Groundbreaking June 1
One Midtown - 40 stories *June 2007
1075 Peachtree - 40 stories *June 2007
Aquarius - 38 stories - 501 ft*Groundbreaking in May
3630 Peachtree South Tower - 36 stories *Summer 2007
Lenox Road Towers Phase I - 33 stories *Fall 2007
Post @ Allen Plaza - 30 stories *Fall 2007
Metropolitan Center Apartments - 30 stories *August 2007
One Cityplace - 29 stories *Fall 2007
Metropolitan Center Office Building - 27 stories *August 2007
Palomar Hotel by Kimpton - 26 stories *Site prep underway
Terminus 200 - 25 stories *Groundbreaking in May
Skyline @ Lindbergh - 20 stories *Groundbreaking this month
Two Alliance Center - 20 stories *Summer 2007
The Brookwood - 19 stories *site work underway
Onyx - 18 stories *site work started
One Museum Place - 13 stories *Demolition begins June 1


Proposed


53 14th Street - 59 stories - 750 ft
Mandarin Oriental Hotel - 54 stories - 700 ft
50 Allen Plaza - 46 stories
The Stratford Hilton - 43 stories
Hines Peachtree Tower - 40 stories
Two Cityplace - 40 stories
Cityplace C - 40 stories
Cityplace D - 40 stories
Cityplace E - 40 stories
Cityplace F - 40 stories
Cityplace G - 40 stories
Cityplace H - 40 stories
Terminus 4 - 40 stories
Terminus 5 - 40 stories
Twelve Centennial, Phase II - 39 stories
Trumps Towers Atlanta, Phase II - 38 stories
ViewPoint, Phase II - 33 stories
ViewPoint, Phase III - 33 stories
Lenox Road Towers II - 33 stories
Tower @ Phipps I - 32 stories
Tower @ Phipps II - 32 stories
1163 West Peachtree - 32 stories
The Stratford Residences - 32 stories
12th & Midtown Phase III - 30 stories
The Premiere @ Fox Plaza - 30 stories
Legacy Condo - 30 stories
Atlantis Tower - 29 stories
The Roxy - 26 stories
3690 Peachtree - 25 stories
Midtown Hilton - 22 stories
Atlantic Station Condo - 20 stories
Phipps Tower - 20 stories
271 17th street - 18 stories
Buckhead Place - 16 stories
Prominence Two - 14 stories
1753 Peachtree - 14 stories


Thanks to Martinman and Kazmpk

Additional proposed projects:

34.Office tower@ FoxPlaza
35.Regent Tower II( behind 3344 Peachtree)
36.Legacy Properties condo tower(behind Centennial park West) 30 stories
37.1400 Peachtree
38.Boutique hotel 6th and Peachtree Hines
39.AIG condo tower -Atlantic Station 20 stories
40.Convention Hotel AIG -Atlantic Station

It was reported that site work has started on the Brookwood

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/pincfx/Highrises/Brookwood20Rendering208-06.jpg

Will aquarius really be breaking ground in may!? I thought it was supposed to be breaking ground this summer! If it does go U/c in may then :banana:

Will aquarius really be breaking ground in may!? I thought it was supposed to be breaking ground this summer! If it does go U/c in may then :banana:


The only thing I've seen is that they're shooting for groundbreaking in May. Of course whenever there is a timetable announced it should be prefaced with "if all goes as planned".

But it is an AWESOME project.

Which ATL thread is new?? soo confused..

Ohh well.. i posted this PANORAMIC in the other one to but u might want it, Taken April 30th 2007


http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z10/ddawguga/panorama.jpg


Ive got more

Which ATL thread is new?? soo confused..

Ohh well.. i posted this PANORAMIC in the other one to but u might want it, Taken April 30th 2007


http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z10/ddawguga/panorama.jpg


Ive got more

Where was that taken from? I am looking for an apartment that provides a good view of the city. I am graduating from UGA next week, and I am waiting to here back from a few companies in Buckhead! Any good apartment complexes that provide good skyline views? I see in the picture Post Riverside. That is a great place!

http://img.coxnewsweb.com/C/05/22/62/image_5362225.jpg

By LEON STAFFORD
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 05/04/07
The Crowne Plaza in Buckhead will be reflagged as a W hotel next year, increasing Atlanta's burgeoning high-end hotel business.

Atlanta-based Noble Investment Group, which also is converting the Sheraton Colony Square into a W, is redeveloping the property for about $100 million.

Thom Filicia, who has earned international fame as a member of Bravo's "Fab Five" on "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy," will direct the interior design.

"It's a huge coup," Noble Chief Executive Officer Mit Shah said of snagging Filicia for the work. "He actually solicited us."

The conversion, expected to be completed during summer 2008, will give the city its fourth W hotel. Starwood Hotels, owner of the brand, operates a W hotel near Perimeter Mall. Another W is under construction on Ivan Allen Boulevard downtown.

driving through ATL this weekend...I was blown away as usual by the skyscrapers. If they were not so spread out--Atlanta would have the 3rd best skyline on this continent.

A new rendering for Luxe (under construction in Midtown)
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d194/realguy721/luxe.jpg

driving through ATL this weekend...I was blown away as usual by the skyscrapers. If they were not so spread out--Atlanta would have the 3rd best skyline on this continent.
Why is spread out a negative thing. If they were crammed together in one dense cluster, that would be an impressive cluster but many of the mid-sized and shorter buildings would be hidden. Being a linear skyline, each building can pretty much be seen and appreciated without being so spreadout that it looks bad.

For density, once all the Buckhead projects are done including 8 forty story towers and several larger ones, you will have a very dense cluster out there comparable to many tier two cities such as Nashville and Charlotte.

Why is spread out a negative thing. If they were crammed together in one dense cluster, that would be an impressive cluster but many of the mid-sized and shorter buildings would be hidden. Being a linear skyline, each building can pretty much be seen and appreciated without being so spreadout that it looks bad.

For density, once all the Buckhead projects are done including 8 forty story towers and several larger ones, you will have a very dense cluster out there comparable to many tier two cities such as Nashville and Charlotte.

Its not a terrible thing, but these towers being closer together would make the Atlanta skyline top notch. You cannot deny that if these towers were clustered together--that the skyline would be in the worlds top ten.

The Mansion
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/jfsatlbldr/Mansion%20on%20Peachtree/5-19-07075.jpg

Viewpoint
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/jfsatlbldr/Viewpoint/5-20-07053.jpg

1010 Peachtree
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/jfsatlbldr/1010%20Midtown/5-20-07062a.jpg

3344 Peachtree
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/jfsatlbldr/3344%20Peachtree/5-18-07007_edited-1.jpg

The W on the left and Twelve Centennial on the right
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/jfsatlbldr/Twelve%20Centennial%20Park/5-19-07176.jpg

It was reported that site work has started on the Brookwood

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/pincfx/Highrises/Brookwood20Rendering208-06.jpgThis may sound crazy, but that's a Raleigh style condo project.:lol: :lol: :lol:

Demolition on the site of One Museum Place has begun.

preliminary rendering

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/1000 D Chipperfield Atlanta image 2.jpg

I was watching the Phillies game today and got to thinking about Turner Field. I remember hearing that the Olympic stadium was transformed into Turner Field. Is this true? If it is, how did the dimensions and whatnot change? Does anyone have photos of the reconstruction or anything?

I was watching the Phillies game today and got to thinking about Turner Field. I remember hearing that the Olympic stadium was transformed into Turner Field. Is this true? If it is, how did the dimensions and whatnot change? Does anyone have photos of the reconstruction or anything?


This site has a few pictures and some information on the dimensions before and after it was retrofitted for baseball.

http://olympics.ballparks.com/1996Atlanta/index.htm

This site has a few pictures and some information on the dimensions before and after it was retrofitted for baseball.

http://olympics.ballparks.com/1996Atlanta/index.htm

Thanks, the two pictures showing Turner Field as the Olympic Stadium and Turner Field as the baseball stadium (both views showing Fulton County Stadium and Atlanta in the background) show me before-and-after Olympic views. I wish they had a little more pictures, and pictures that were closer up, so that I could see the differences a little bit better.

Thanks, the two pictures showing Turner Field as the Olympic Stadium and Turner Field as the baseball stadium (both views showing Fulton County Stadium and Atlanta in the background) show me before-and-after Olympic views. I wish they had a little more pictures, and pictures that were closer up, so that I could see the differences a little bit better.

They basically just built a baseball stadium in one corner of an Olympic sized stadium. What you see on the south side of Turner field (the dugout area) was there during the Olympics. The north side originally extended out to and Olympic sized oval and was torn down and rebuilt to the size of a baseball field. Hope that makes sense.

http://www.whiteprovision.com/images/what/large_4.jpg

Atlantans who’ve driven through the intersection of Howell Mill Road and 14th Street recently will have noticed the beginning of demolition work on the huge, former U-Haul loft and storage building that bears the slogan “White Provision Co.” on top. If it looks as if someone is preparing to tear down this Westside landmark, you’re half right.

Actually, says developer Chris Faussemagne, the plan is to remove sections of the sprawling property that were added onto the 1910 meat-packing plant over the decades. The original brick building — the part everybody sees from the street — forms an “L” at the corner of Howell Mill and the adjacent railway tracks. Behind that facade are a series of adjoining structures that long housed lofts popular with musicians and artists.

The idea is to keep the familiar “White Provision” building in front, while attaching a contemporary steel-and-glass complex to the back that will contain 100 condominiums with ground-floor retail. Plans to install an entrance directly across from 14th Street require the eventual relocation of West Egg Cafe, which is currently open. A footbridge over the railroad tracks will connect the property to the Westside Urban Market shopping center of Bacchanalia fame.

Is aquarius U/c yet?

Is aquarius U/c yet?

Not yet but its close.

This graphic shows the height of Trump Phase I at 575'.
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb287/gillium2236/575.jpg

that is a great tower!!! congrats to atl for this one.

i have actually gained a great respect for the city over this last weekend. i had the oppurtunity to take a vacation there in atl and loved it. it is an amazing city with great architecture.

Terminus 200 - 25 story office building



http://www.shadowlawrecordings.com/development/terminus200.jpg

I took these in April:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/195/449055497_b2ed529a09.jpg?v=1175919153
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/251/449055519_c8a898b524.jpg?v=1175919179
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/230/449055495_aa36a0883c.jpg?v=0

My apologies for the glare. Expect something better in late August.

Terminus 200 - 25 story office building
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/pincfx/Highrises/200_Terminus.jpg

This is better than I expected!

great pics Modestproposal

Atlanta Business Chronicle - June 8, 2007by Jill Lerner FriedmanStaff writer


Developers of 12th & Midtown are adding part of another city block to the massive mixed-use project.

With the addition of the site fronting Crescent Avenue and bounded by 11th and 12th streets, the formerly $1.1 billion, three-phase development now includes four phases -- featuring retail, office, residential and hotel spaces -- with a total value of about $2 billion

1. 3344 Peachtree - 48 stories - 660 ft
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/pincfx/3344.jpg

2. The Mansion on Peachtree - 42 stories - 580 ft
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4615/32522172ah0.jpg

3. The Atlantic - 46 stories - 540 ft
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/pincfx/Highrises/atlantic-1.jpg

4. Twelve Centennial, Phase I - 39 stories - 520 ft
http://www.novaregroup.com/images/portfolio/centennialpark.jpg

5. ViewPoint, Phase I - 36 stories
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3223/homepicjj8.jpg

6. 1010 Midtown - 35 stories
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/pincfx/1010pic.jpg

8. 10 Terminus Place - 32 stories
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3059/10terminusplaceup6.jpg

9. W Downtown Atlanta Hotel & Residences - 28 stories - 331 ft
http://www.allenplaza.com/images/45_LG.jpg

10. Gallery - 27 stories
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/pincfx/Gallery-Day-lg.jpg

11. St Regis Hotel - 26 stories
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/pincfx/Highrises/stregis9zp.png

12. Terminus 200 - 25 stories - 357 ft
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/2084/terminus200sg3.jpg

13. Lenbrook - 25 stories
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/7753/lenbrookrx5.jpg

14. Aqua - 24 stories
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/pincfx/Aqua.jpg

15. Mezzo - 22 stories
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/pincfx/Mezzo.jpg

16. Luxe - 22 stories
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d194/realguy721/luxe.jpg

17. Parc @ Buckhead - 20 stories
http://www.parccommunities.com/buckhead/images/building_rend4.jpg

18. The Brookwood - 19 stories
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1734/brookwoodzn6.jpg

19. America's Mart II - 18 stories

20. 201 17th Street - 17 stories
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8190/image2007828ya0.jpg

21. Hilton Garden Inn - 14 stories
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/pincfx/Highrises/ParkPavilion.jpg

22. Astoria - 14 stories
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r97/sedaded/NewPicture.jpg


Nearing completion....

Twelve Centennial, Phase I
Gallery
Aqua
201 17th street

close to groundbreaking....
3630 Peachtree
Palomar Hotel by Kimpton
Skyline @ Lindbergh

I thought I might let some Altanta forumers know there is an interesting discussion going on about Atlanta on Urbanohio. You might want to check out the comments.
http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=13212.msg194493#msg194493

Atlanta - with its fingers crossed - warms up to exchange a round of high fives:

CBOT's LARGEST SHAREHOLDER SAYS NO TO MERC (http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Business/2007/06/27/cbots_largest_shareholder_says_no_to_merc/9228/)
Published: June 27, 2007 at 4:28 PM

CHICAGO, June 27 (UPI) -- Caledonia Investment, the Chicago Board of Trade's largest shareholder, cast a "no" vote on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange's planned acquisition of CBOT.

The Australian firm's vote Tuesday was seen by analysts as the shareholder wanting a better offer from CME, not as an endorsement of rival bidder IntercontinentalExchange Inc., Crain's Chicago Business reported Wednesday.

Caledonia's vote comes two weeks before CBOT shareholders are scheduled to vote on the Merc's $10.3-billion offer. If the exchange submits a new bid, the vote would be postponed by several days.

ICE, of Atlanta, offered $10.9 billion.

Both suitors have events scheduled to meet with CBOT shareholders.

Intercontinental CEO Jeffery Sprecher is sponsoring a reception, at which he is expected to urge CBOT members to vote "no." The mercantile exchange's top officials will press their case at a reception as well.

All three companies pled their cases to Institutional Shareholder Services, which offers recommendations to large shareholders on contested proxies. ISS is expected to release a report, perhaps as soon as this week.

Dozens of CBOT shareholders and members have come out against the deal, while dozens of CBOT members have said they will vote for it.

I thought I might let some Altanta forumers know there is an interesting discussion going on about Atlanta on Urbanohio. You might want to check out the comments.
http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=13212.msg194493#msg194493

After reading the thread, I have to honestly say that people in Cleveland, Ohio have to be the most uneducated bunch of people I have ever seen. They know nothing about Atlanta.

201 17th Street looks like it's almost finished. It's basically just a big glass box, but I like it.

How's the Hilton Garden Inn coming along? It's on Ivan Allen, right?

I thought I might let some Altanta forumers know there is an interesting discussion going on about Atlanta on Urbanohio. You might want to check out the comments.
http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=13212.msg194493#msg194493

Some sad folks over there. It's obviously nothing but pure jealousy for several of them.

I totally agree. The rumblings of posters on urbanohio sounds like pure jealousy

I'm really digging 3344 Peachtree. I haven't been back to Atlanta since 2004. I'm ready to visit again. I have family in Dallas and Lilburn. I might be there sometime next summer. I wish it were sooner so I could get a nice photo thread going!

14-story towers planned for mixed-use site in Sandy Springs

A mixed-use development is planned at the northwestern corner of I-285 and Ga. 400 in the city of Sandy Springs, with two 14-story office towers, a 200-room hotel, 300 condominium units and 50,000 square feet of retail.

The project promises to redevelop an aging 26-acre office park that features five low-slung buildings and large surface parking lots.

Groundbreaking scheduled for Sept 5.

http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/420/e74868efry6.jpg

Atlanta Business Chronicle
7:42 AM EDT Thursday
July 19, 2007
by Joe Rauch - Staff Writer

Atlantic Station's third, and tallest, office tower will break ground next week, and will be anchored by the local and state corporate bank offices for BB&T Corp., according to an announcement by the bank on Thursday.

The new 25-story tower will be at 271 17th Street, adjacent to Atlantic Station's most recent high-rise project at 201 17th Street, which is scheduled to open this month.

When BB&T's tower opens in first quarter 2009, it will be a 530,000-square-foot building, with the city's fourth-largest bank as its anchor tenant. BB&T (NYSE: BBT) will occupy 80,000 square feet in the new tower across three floors, and a bank branch will be in the lobby.

The tower will be Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design Core and Shell Development program certified as an environmentally friendly project. It will use recycled building materials, systems for electrical and water conservation, and a reduced dependency on heating and air conditioning.

The move is the first major consolidation of BB&T offices and operations locally. The bank also becomes the second large bank to base its operations in Atlantic Station, and will sit just down the street from a major local competitor.

Wachovia Corp. (NYSE: WB) moved from its downtown offices to the development after completing its purchase of Birmingham, Ala.-based SouthTrust Corp. in 2005, and is the anchor tenant of Atlantic Station's first high-rise office tower at 171 17th Street.

When finished, the building will be two stories taller than Wachovia's tower.

BB&T is moving roughly 200 employees to the tower, and the building will house the bank's local corporate, business and governmental banking; commercial real estate; wealth management; commercial finance; leasing; capital markets and trust services.

The bank's Georgia and north Atlanta corporate headquarters will also move.

Post apartments and Aloft hotel. Planning to break ground this fall
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/4788/16allenxv0.gif

3630 Peachtree

34- story mixed use (office,condo,retail)

(foreground)
http://img.coxnewsweb.com/B/05/59/36/image_3136595.jpg

Post apartments and Aloft hotel. Planning to break ground this fall
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/4788/16allenxv0.gif

Aloft hotel? Is that to say it will be like loft type living(i.e. piping visible and concrete flooring)? I love those old warehouse style lofts.

Or am I going way off base here? Curious I am.

Atlanta Business Chronicle - July 20, 2007

Construction has begun on the largest office tower to be built in Midtown in nearly two decades.

Atlanta-based Selig Enterprises Inc. and Birmingham, Ala.-based Daniel Corp. are starting a 34-story, 725,000-square-foot office tower at 1075 Peachtree St., bounded roughly by 11th, Peachtree, 12th and Juniper streets, said Steven Baile, vice president of Daniel's Atlanta office.
Click here to find out more!

The unnamed office tower is the second phase of Selig/Daniel's $2.5 billion 12th & Midtown, a four-phase mixed-use development that begins at 12th and Peachtree streets. 12th & Midtown includes 1.2 million square feet of office space, more than 500 hotel rooms, more than 600 residences and up to 150,000 square feet of multilevel retail space.

The office tower will be roughly half the cost of the overall $600 million second phase, which also includes about 40,000 square feet of retail space, he said. Another 20,000 square feet of ground-level retail space will be added to the office tower, Baile said.

The tower, being built on 2.9 acres with investment from MetLife Inc., will be the largest office tower by square footage built in Midtown since the 38-story, 774,000-square-foot Promenade II was built in 1991, according to Randy Berger, senior market analyst for Dorey Market Analysis Group. One Atlantic Center, at 50 stories and 1.1 million square feet, was built in 1987. 1180 Peachtree, at 41 stories and 650,000 square feet, was built in 2006.

If built today, the Selig/Daniel tower would be the ninth-largest office tower in Atlanta based on square footage.

Baile is banking on demand for space in the new Midtown tower when it is completed in the fourth quarter of 2009.

^ Close to 500 feet ?

^ Close to 500 feet ?

I am not sure. I haven't found anything that mentions the height. I hope a rendering becomes available soon. I imagine it will be at least 500 ft., hopefully more.

^^ The office tower will be 487' and the hotel/condo 392'

Aloft hotel? Is that to say it will be like loft type living(i.e. piping visible and concrete flooring)? I love those old warehouse style lofts.

Or am I going way off base here? Curious I am.

You've got the right idea. Its a new, less expensive concept by the W.

That's definitely new to me. I can't wait to see it!

Is there another forum about ATL development?

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/6074/asbbt1fc7.jpg

Well it certainly looks very Atlantic Station-ish.

Thanks, micro. Looks nice enough. Interesting geometry.

I'm moving back to the area(Paulding County) here next week. I haven't lived here since I was a child(20+ years ago). Can someone tell me the best vantage points in the city to get shots of the entire city? Or close to it? Thanks in advance!

I'm moving back to the area(Paulding County) here next week. I haven't lived here since I was a child(20+ years ago). Can someone tell me the best vantage points in the city to get shots of the entire city? Or close to it? Thanks in advance!

Kennesaw mt. is a good spot not to far from where you'll be.

201 17th Street - 17 stories, office completed
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/SKYSCRAPERKING/2007_01070125.jpg

I'm moving back to the area(Paulding County) here next week. I haven't lived here since I was a child(20+ years ago). Can someone tell me the best vantage points in the city to get shots of the entire city? Or close to it? Thanks in advance!

I get pictures on top of the parking deck at Lindbergh Station. Also on top of the parking deck at Emory Medical School. There are various places on 85/75 where you could pull over for some great shots. I think there is a cometary that a lot of flickr people use to get great shots. I would suggest going to flickr and looking up "atlanta skyline" and seeing if the photo descriptions say where the photos were taken from. I would also suggest paying $5 to go to the top of the Westin to get shots of Atlanta from 750ft up.

^^ That's a huge help. Thanks a bunch!

201 17th Street is pretty much nothing more than a glass box, but for some reason, I really like it. What does it do at the street level?

^^ That's a huge help. Thanks a bunch!

Hal, another place you'll want to check out is Mt. Wilkenson, just above Vinings Village. There are a couple of office buildings up there with parking decks that provide beautiful panoramas of the entire skyline. You've probably seen these shots on various forums over time.

Just an FYI - The security guards at the taller building on the Mountain are very aggressive about non-tenants going up in the parking garage, and they are very aware that it is a favorite spot for photographers. The lower green glass building across the street is a little more mellow, and the views are still amazing but partially blocked by the taller building.

^^ Again, thank you. I'm writing all of this down and I can't wait to take the shots myself and share!

By KEVIN DUFFY
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 07/27/07

Plans to build a new mid-rise building at Allen Plaza, the nine-block downtown development near Centennial Park, will be discussed Monday with the Atlanta Regional Commission.

Barry Real Estate Cos. has submitted a proposal to the ARC and the Georgia Regional Transportation Authority to build 450,000 square feet of office space and 65,000 square feet of retail space, at 59 Simpson Street.

The building would bigger than both the 14-story Ernst & Young building at 55 Allen Plaza and the 15-story Southern Co. building at 30 Allen Plaza. Barry says no tenants have been signed.

But Publix has indicated it might be interested in opening a grocery store there. A Publix official wrote a letter saying the company was interested in locating at Allen Plaza.

The building could be completed in 2010, according to Barry's development of regional impact submission. A DRI project is considered large enough to affect traffic over a wide area, so it's reviewed by ARC and GRTA.

Allen Plaza plans call for more than 2 million square feet of Class A office space; 200,000 square feet of neighborhood retail and restaurants; more than 3,000 residences; and 500-plus hotel rooms. Investment is projected to reach $1.95 billion.

Hey guys, I need to ask anyone a favor. I'll be moving to the area next week and I will be looking for new work. I have a few job leads. But I'm always looking for the next good/great job. So if you know anyone seeking, please let me know.

I spent 12 years in the Navy in Logistics and Supply Chain Management. After my time there, I went to work as the Operations Manager for Toleto Skateboards. That's my current job.

I can work in a variety of fields. But I am looking for a Management or Supervisor position first. Thanks for any help!

Just taking a shot in the dark here.

By JULIE B. HAIRSTON
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 08/08/07

Miami-based developer The Related Group has cemented its position as a major player in the urban rejuvenation of Atlanta by announcing a multimillion-dollar partnership with local powerhouse Cousins in two key projects.

Cousins announced Wednesday it will become an equal partner in the $130 million development of the first tower in CityPlace at Buckhead. Related acquired the 16-acre site on Roxboro Road near Lenox Square in 2006 and received zoning approval from the city last year after more than a year of negotiations with neighborhood groups for the site design.

CityPlace ultimately will contain nine high-rise towers with 3,860 residential units, 28 townhouses, 110,000 square feet of retail space and an undetailed portion of office space.

Lee Hodges, vice president for Related's Atlanta division, said the two companies, which have already partnered on two successful Miami projects, have been in talks since early this year.

"When we came to Atlanta, we were looking to partner with a local developer who was familiar with the market, with the contractors and subcontractors and the market in general," said Hodges, who grew up in nearby Madison, Ga. "By combining the strengths of the two companies, we would become a real development force here in Atlanta."

As part of the deal, Related will also become an equal partner in the second and third residential towers planned for Terminus, Cousins' most recent project on Peachtree Street at Piedmont Road in Buckhead. The first tower at Terminus is already under construction.Sales at CityPlace will open at the end of this year, with prices expected to hover around $400 per square foot.

^^ The rendering

Atlanta Business Chronicle - August 3, 2007by Steve FallContributing Writer
Joann Vitelli
Trumping the competition: The sales center for Trump Towers shows off the sculptural form of the building.
View Larger With the introduction of high-end condominiums to the market come million-dollar showrooms intended to entice buyers with a taste of the good life.

At each of these sales centers, the goal is to give buyers the ambience, or feeling, salespeople say they'll get when they're living in the unit.

"The sales environment needs to be indicative of the type of product that it's selling," said David Tufts, president of The Marketing Directors LLC, which handles marketing for the new W Atlanta Downtown Hotel & Residences. "The higher end, the more that needs to be spoken to by the sales center."

Toronto-based BurdiFilek Interior Design will design the W's $2 million sales center, which will offer both virtual and real tours, and include an entire residential model. A mood video will set the tone for the W lifestyle.

For the Trump Towers, the sales center at Kenji Design Studios uses a dramatic stage-lighting effect to showcase the design; this is fitting because the building will be near the Woodruff Arts Center.

"We've emphasized the design of the sculptural form of the building," said lead designer Jim Weinberg. "We were able to depict its large shard columns in the display center. They're about 12 feet tall."

The showroom for The Mansion on Peachtree overlooks the construction site from the 10th floor of Atlanta Financial Center's North Tower. A flat-screen TV plays a virtual tour, showing potential buyers all the building's views.

Paul Cullen, vice president of City Center Properties LLC, said in creating The Mansion's showroom they were looking to create a sales/lifestyle center.

Just down Peachtree Road is SOVEREIGN, where condominiums start at more than $1 million.

Guests at their sales center in Tower Place also can view the nearby construction site. In addition, the showroom has original paintings from artist Todd Murphy, who is curator of the building's fine art collection.

Spokesperson Gayle MacIntyre said the showroom tells visitors that SOVEREIGN is upscale and discreet.

Another showroom that emphasizes views is the 55-unit Aberdeen, which will be in Vinings Village.

Since Aberdeen primarily targets empty nesters, the developers stayed away from high-tech gadgetry in the sales center, said Geoff Anderson, president of Taz Anderson Realty Co.

"We felt that for our buyer, who is 55-plus, empty nester, probably owns more than one home, that wasn't the way they bought a house."

Meanwhile, the showroom for Mezzo is a spa-like atmosphere, with relaxing music playing.

"Immediately after you walk in, you feel the lifestyle and the ambience of the building," said Leslie Williamson, executive vice president of marketing for Coldwell Banker The Condo Store.

The 20-story Mezzo will have 94 condos on Peachtree Road near the border of Buckhead and Midtown.

"This is a brand-new experience for Atlanta," said Dale Henson, president of Dale Henson Associates Inc., when asked about the emergence of luxury condos in metro Atlanta and their showrooms. "So I'm not surprised to see those elaborate showrooms because the prices are going up. Some of them are starting in the $1 million to $2 million range. That calls for that sort of exposition of the properties."

Tufts agreed.

"I think it's an important sales tool to have these types of environments," he said. "Building out full sales models pre-building completion is something that has been done before successfully. But the level to which it's being done now and the types that are coming on line now are vastly different."

Henson said these types of showrooms do influence buyers' decisions.

"When they didn't have a choice of this kind of property, they either bought or they didn't buy. Now they have several to choose from. So the competition gets good at that level now that we have several that are $1 million and up."

Sparing no expense
High-priced condos start with extravagant showrooms

Aberdeen: Showroom furnished by top designer Carol Weaks Interiors, includes Jacuzzi tub

Mansion: Corridor nicknamed "The Lifestyle Transporter," with visual images of the building

W: Re-creation of the W Hotel's lobby experience, espresso bar

Trump Towers: Eight-foot-high model that includes a topless bather at the swimming pool

SOVEREIGN: Original Todd Murphy artwork

Mezzo: Kitchen vignette that shows the full Viking series appliance package, cabinets, granite countertops and flooring

^^ The rendering
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That is dee-lish!

1. 3344 Peachtree - 48 stories - 660 ft
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2. The Mansion on Peachtree - 42 stories - 580 ft
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3. The Atlantic - 46 stories - 540 ft
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4. ViewPoint, Phase I - 36 stories
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5. 1010 Midtown - 35 stories
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6. 3630 Peachtree Phase I - 35 stories
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7. 1075 Peachtree, office tower - 34 stories
8. Loews hotel/condo - 32 stories
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9. 10 Terminus Place - 32 stories
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10. W Downtown Atlanta Hotel & Residences - 28 stories - 331 ft
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11. Gallery - 27 stories
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12. St Regis Buckhead - 26 stories
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13. Terminus 200 - 25 stories - 357 ft
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14. 271 17th Street - 25 stories
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15. The Lenbrook - 25 stories
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16. Mezzo - 22 stories
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17. Luxe - 22 stories
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18. Two Alliance Center - 22 stories
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19. Hotel Palomar - 21 stories
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20. Skyline @ Lindbergh - 21 stories
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21. Parc @ Buckhead - 20 stories
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22. Buckhead Place - 20 stories
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23. The Brookwood - 19 stories
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24. Hilton Garden Inn - 14 stories
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25. Astoria @ Aramore- 14 stories
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Is it true that the Mandarin is slated to become Atlanta"s new tallest. If true, please give details on a potential height.

Is it true that the Mandarin is slated to become Atlanta"s new tallest. If true, please give details on a potential height.

1 - No Mandarin Hotel has been officially announced. It is known that they've been negotiating with a few developers for an Atlanta hotel.

2 - The project thought to have the inside track is proposed to be 700' tall. I think thats all that anyone really knows except the Mandarin people and the developer.

I will add one caveat that the Mandarin is moving their US offices to Atlanta and might just want a really high profile project here.

Edit: There is an article in this weeks business chronicle that seems to indicate that the Mandarin is going into the 700' proposal.

Thank you so much for the construction update gwiATLeman! These project are going to significantly enhance/densify the Atlanta skyline! More importantly, they're going to contribute greatly to improvements in street activity. I long for a day when Phipps and Lenox Mall go out of business, with their high-end tenants moving to street level retail in towers like these.

I may want to ask you for addresses on these towers so I can take pictures of construction as I'm returning to Atlanta this weekend.

Wednesday, August 22, 2007-9:13:42 AM


ATLANTA— An $86-million Hotel Palomar is now in the works in Atlanta with Hillwood and Kim King Associates funding the development. Kimpton Hotels and Restaurants Group will operate the hotel, which is scheduled to premier in May of 2009.
Construction on the hotel began last week at 866 W. Peachtree. When complete, the 21-story, 390,000-square-foot property will contain 304 rooms, a terrace bar on top of a parking deck, 10,000 square feet of meeting space and in-room spa services.

Ross-Patterson, an Atlanta hospitality consulting firm, helped secure Kimpton as the hotel’s operating partner and structured the development transaction.

Wednesday, August 22, 2007-9:13:42 AM


ATLANTA— An $86-million Hotel Palomar is now in the works in Atlanta with Hillwood and Kim King Associates funding the development. Kimpton Hotels and Restaurants Group will operate the hotel, which is scheduled to premier in May of 2009.
Construction on the hotel began last week at 866 W. Peachtree. When complete, the 21-story, 390,000-square-foot property will contain 304 rooms, a terrace bar on top of a parking deck, 10,000 square feet of meeting space and in-room spa services.

Ross-Patterson, an Atlanta hospitality consulting firm, helped secure Kimpton as the hotel’s operating partner and structured the development transaction.

Rendering
http://www.hotelpalomar-atlanta.com/images/exterior_lg.jpg

Another mixed-use project planned for DeKalb

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 09/05/07

Another massive mixed-use development is being planned for the busy North Druid Hills corridor in north-central DeKalb County — just down the road from a similar mega-project already planned by the Sembler Co.

Developers plan to transform Executive Park, metro Atlanta's first suburban-style office park, into a live-work-play community with housing, offices and shops.

The project, at the corner of I-85 and North Druid Hills Road, would include 772 high-end apartments and enough retail space to fill North DeKalb Mall, according to development papers filed Wednesday with the state's Department of Community Affairs.

The developers, Boston-based HRPT Properties Trust, would replace several aging small office buildings with more than one million square feet of new office space. A number of existing office buildings would remain.

The size and scope of the new project stunned some neighborhood leaders.

"Holy cow, I think it's going to be way too much, " said Jim Smith, president of StandUp DeKalb, a group recently formed to fight Sembler's plans to build a $1 billion mini-city featuring high-rise condos, at least one hotel and 1.5 million square feet of shops.

"I think the Sembler project is way too much," Smith said.

News of the Executive Park plans may complicate Sembler's drive to acquire property and obtain the rezoning needed to get its project off the ground.

Residents have been putting pressure on DeKalb County officials to pull the plug on Sembler's plans, arguing that the project will gridlock the area's already jam-packed roads.

Sembler officials say there's room for both developments. A master plan for the entire area is being developed by New York planner Alex Garvin that calls for a new grid of streets, wider main thoroughfares and a new exit ramp from I-85 to help ease traffic.

"From the beginning of the Garvin study, there was a clear understanding that the entire area is ripe for development," said Angelo Fuster, a Sembler spokesman. "There's been no development here for many, many years. It's valuable property."

Taken together, the two projects would turn the once-sleepy, suburban neighborhood into one of the region's premier shopping and office hubs, with almost as much retail as Lenox Square and Phipps Plaza combined.

"Obviously, something is very wrong here," said Smith, of StandUp DeKalb. "The last thing we need, between this project and the Sembler project, is 2 million square feet of retail at one intersection."

The Executive Park developers say the area is ripe for significant investment. The property is centrally located just off I-85, making it attractive to potential office tenants, said John Sullivan, vice president for the southeast region for Reit Management and Research, HRPT's management arm. And the affluent area has long been under-retailed, he added.

Sullivan stressed the company is in the early stages of planning, with many details yet to be worked out. No retail outlets or office tenants have been lined up, he said, and the project may not be built out for five years or more, depending on market conditions. Tenants in office buildings slated to be demolished would be allowed to stay until their leases are up.

The company is seeking a rezoning to allow for a mix of uses. The property is now zoned for office and institutional use. Because of its size, plans are also being reviewed by state and regional agencies.

One Museum Place


1075 Peachtree (12th & Midtown Phase II)

Aqua is now completed.
http://www.shadowlawrecordings.com/development/Aqua_073107_8.jpg

Two Alliance Center, a 22 story office building, broke ground last week.
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Atlanta Business Chronicle - 2:27 PM EDT Tuesday, September 11, 2007
Georgia and metro Atlanta officials on Tuesday jointly announced redevelopment plans for the 487-acre Fort McPherson property -- a scientific research facility on par with the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and the Research Triangle Park.

The state is asking the U.S. Army to donate 115 acres of the military base for the research park. In turn, officials believe the state's will boost the value of the remaining parcels of the Fort McPherson site to be sold by the Army, which is leaving the base in 2011.

If the Army OKs the deal, the research park will be developed by a task force to include the Georgia Board of Regents, local governmental entities and private partners. The proposed research park will be within the footprint of Fort McPherson, just miles from Georgia's public research institutions, private research institutions and the main campus of the Centers for Disease Control.

The research park will be developed as an urban mixed-use work/live/learn/play science and research park for interdisciplinary research and technology transfer in partnership with Georgia research institutions and private partners. The Centers for Disease Control has expressed an interest in participating in the exploratory discussions about the research park.

Also today, the McPherson Planning Local Redevelopment Authority (MPLRA) has turned in its re-use plan for Fort McPherson to the U.S. Army and U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. The proposal calls for rezoning by Atlanta and a partnership with private developers, the state and East Point to create 150 acres of green space, with 30 acres set aside for a festival and event grounds. The future site may also feature up to 4,600 homes, four million square feet of office space and 400,000 square feet of retail and commercial space.

Fort McPherson's closure stems from recommendations in 2005 by the Base Realignment and Closure Commission (BRAC) and is part of the Pentagon's plan to streamline the military from one designed to fight the Cold War into one better suited to confront Islamic terrorism and 21st century threats, such as regimes in North Korea and Iran.

Fort McPherson, in southwest Atlanta, is Georgia's oldest Army base and is home to The Third Army, an Army Reserve Command and Forces Command. When closed, the state will lose 2,260 military jobs and 1,881 civilian jobs.

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This is the second phase of the 12th and Midtown project. The building will be 36 stories. There will be 414 rooms. The Loews' projected opening is April 2010

1010 Peachtree
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The Atlantic
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Viewpoint
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St Regis Buckhead
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10 Terminus Place
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W Downtown
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The Mansion
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3344 Peachtree
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The Mansion & 3344
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New renderings of Buckhead Place, a 20 story apartment builing already under construction.

Buckhead Place

The amenity level will be on the 19th floor
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Streets of Buckhead project adds hotel, office/retail space

The Streets of Buckhead project is expanding across Peachtree Road to include the site of the old Three Dollar Cafe and adjoining land.

Ben Carter Properties and Barry Hotel Partners on Tuesday announced plans to build a Hotel Monaco, a Class A office building and 55,000 square feet of retail and restaurant space on 2 acres at the Pharr Road intersection. Ben Carter said the hotel will cater to businesspeople and families and won't be exceedingly trendy or expensive.

Construction is expected to begin next year and wrap up in 2010.

The bulk of the Streets of Buckhead project is on the other side of Peachtree Road, where demolition has been under way for awhile. The additional land means the development has grown to nine blocks.

A few years ago, the development site was the city's No. 1 party scene. But after outbreaks of violence, the city cracked down, making arrests and forcing bars to close earlier. Businesses suffered and became ripe for purchase.

Hotel Monaco is Streets of Buckhead's second confirmed hotel. Barry Hotel also is developing 1 Hotel and Residences, which will include 48 condos. A third hotel, an "ultra-luxury" international brand with about 100 rooms and 42 condos, will be announced soon, Ben Carter said. Plans for a Paces Plaza Hotel and Residences have been scrapped.

Hotel Monaco is part of the San Francisco-based Kimpton Hotels & Restaurants. Ben Carter is under contract to buy the additional land for the project from Brad Bradshaw and plans to sell the hotel portion to Barry. Carter said acquisition and development of the additional acreage will cost roughly $250 million. Investment in the entire Streets of Buckhead development is expected to top $1 billion.

That includes construction of about 350 luxury apartments by Wood Partners.

Streets of Buckhead plans also call for 80 high-end retailers. A new one was announced Tuesday — Loro Piana, which sells clothing and accessories.


http://img.coxnewsweb.com/B/08/14/84/image_5884148.jpg

Streets of Buckhead project adds hotel, office/retail space

The Streets of Buckhead project is expanding across Peachtree Road to include the site of the old Three Dollar Cafe and adjoining land.

Ben Carter Properties and Barry Hotel Partners on Tuesday announced plans to build a Hotel Monaco, a Class A office building and 55,000 square feet of retail and restaurant space on 2 acres at the Pharr Road intersection. Ben Carter said the hotel will cater to businesspeople and families and won't be exceedingly trendy or expensive.

Construction is expected to begin next year and wrap up in 2010.

The bulk of the Streets of Buckhead project is on the other side of Peachtree Road, where demolition has been under way for awhile. The additional land means the development has grown to nine blocks.

A few years ago, the development site was the city's No. 1 party scene. But after outbreaks of violence, the city cracked down, making arrests and forcing bars to close earlier. Businesses suffered and became ripe for purchase.

Hotel Monaco is Streets of Buckhead's second confirmed hotel. Barry Hotel also is developing 1 Hotel and Residences, which will include 48 condos. A third hotel, an "ultra-luxury" international brand with about 100 rooms and 42 condos, will be announced soon, Ben Carter said. Plans for a Paces Plaza Hotel and Residences have been scrapped.

Hotel Monaco is part of the San Francisco-based Kimpton Hotels & Restaurants. Ben Carter is under contract to buy the additional land for the project from Brad Bradshaw and plans to sell the hotel portion to Barry. Carter said acquisition and development of the additional acreage will cost roughly $250 million. Investment in the entire Streets of Buckhead development is expected to top $1 billion.

That includes construction of about 350 luxury apartments by Wood Partners.

Streets of Buckhead plans also call for 80 high-end retailers. A new one was announced Tuesday — Loro Piana, which sells clothing and accessories.


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Here
s another story about this project

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/stories/2007/09/24/daily10.html

12th & Midtown is just plain sexy.

Crocker Partners Pencils 230,000-SF Spec Office

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Boca Raton, FL-based Crocker Partners has acquired a 2.2-acre site at 6403 Barfield Rd. NE with plans to develop Two NorthPlace, a 230,000-sf, 10-story speculative office building. Construction of the project is expected to begin in the first quarter of 2008 with completion anticipated for the first quarter of 2009. The land was acquired from locally based the Griffin Co. It will include 10,000 sf of retail space, several on-site restaurants, a fitness center and covered parking.

Located in the Central Perimeter submarket, the project is part of the NorthPlace development. The Griffin Co. acquired the property for the development in 2004 and is developing One NorthPlace, which will serve as the corporate headquarters for Omni National Bank. Jolly Development Corp. is finishing the final phase of the Promenade at NorthPlace, brownstone-style condominiums on the northern portion of the development. “At 10 stories and with ground-floor retail, Two NorthPlace will complete the vision for NorthPlace,” says the Griffin Co. president Kirk Demetrops.

Jones Lang LaSalle senior leasing director Jeff Bellamy and leasing associate Brooke Dewey are handling leasing for the project, which offers immediate access to Georgia 400 and is close to Interstate 285 and Marta. “There are many exterior signage opportunities on the building, including the east side which will provide excellent tenant visibility from Georgia 400,” Bellamy says.

Atlanta has some nice looking projects going up. The skyline is going to look great after all these projects get built.