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dunamis

December 20th, 2007, 04:29 AM

thomasian

December 20th, 2007, 04:31 AM

Wow @thomasian how'd you know that? Expert ka din pala sa a/c! :okay:

Anyway, I hope our GH friends don't mind us talking at length about this topic. It's just that GH1 is such an awesome building that we don't want anything to spoil its beautiful, clean exterior in the years to come.

LOL. Mukhang mas expert yang nasa taas o! :D ^^

thomasian

December 20th, 2007, 05:07 AM

Basic airconditioning....
refrigerant goes to compressor and pumps it to high temp and high pressure in evaporator/expanison valve. The throttling effect of the expansion valve cools the refrigerant. This goes to the condenser where a heat exchange happens when a fan blows the air into the room. This results to water condensing in the heat exchanger and brings water to the catch basin in a/c. The refrigerant now under low pressure and moderate temperature goes to the compressor. This cycle happens continously until you turn the aircon off.

Nope, it's the evaporator that cools the room when the fan blows the air from the room into the evaporator, cooling it, and then out into the room again. And it's also in the evaporator where the moisture from the air in the room condenses, then it goes out into the catch basin where the air blown into the condenser by the condenser-fan evaporates it.

Sometimes when the weather is too hot and humid, a lot of water condenses on the evaporator, and the ambient air blown by the condenser fan is not enough to evaporate it sufficiently, leaving excess water on the catch basin.

But because excess water may be handled differently by airconditioners from different manufacturers, there are those with a hose outlet (as you were saying) for that excess water, while there are those without - the drip-free ones. And since we are talking about the drip-free aircons here, we don't exactly need the... A good condo development always has a provision for the tubes of condensed water of aircons. that you're talking about.

So The Grand Hamptons, even without that "provision for the tubes of condensed water of aircons" that you were saying, does not mean that it's not a good condo development.

Excess water from the drip-free aircons may be handled differently by different brands. Although the one I'm familiar with is the Condura/Carrier/Kelvinator by Concepcion-Carrier Industries because it's the one we have at home. The excess water (only present during hotter-than-the-usual days) for those brands in their drip-free models are handled by the condenser fan which splashes it into the hot condenser evaporating it quickly, almost instantly, so there won't be a need for the "provision for the tubes of condensed water of aircons" that you said should be present in a good condo development.

Although it wouldn't hurt to have one as the drip-free system is not always perfect. Improper installation, manufacturing defects, or other unforseen factors can cause a few drips every now and then, but generally, it's still a system than can go without the "provision for the tubes of condensed water of aircons".

august88boy

December 20th, 2007, 05:07 AM

that means meron talagang tutulong tubig, and there's no such thing as completely dip-free :D

thomasian

December 20th, 2007, 05:15 AM

^^ Hindi naman, pag nagkaproblema lang like maling installation or something, o pag naluma na yung aircon at may problema na, pero it's still generally drip-free as the name says.

Gibson@G&W

December 20th, 2007, 06:38 AM

Hello TC...I have a feeling one day you'll get me into trouble! haha J/K!

Anyway, I have been reading this issue about the aircon unit...as much as I would like to say we can limit the A/C, there will always be unit owners who will want to have the freedom to use an A/C system on their own. We do provide for the pipes that allow for the excess water to be piped out, instead of jsut freely drip all over the place....and this has been the system even in older buildings. The biggest challenge here is the cooperation of the unit owners, and also the strictness of the property managers in enforcing the rules that are in place.

I've seen it so many times, where a unit owner on a lower floor complains that there is constant dripping on his/her window type A/C...which turns out that the hose of the unit above is not inserted on the proper pipe, and just left dangling.

We are very pleased that these issues are brought up because this makes each unit owner more conscious on how we can better maintain the building!

-TC-

December 20th, 2007, 06:55 AM

Hello TC...I have a feeling one day you'll get me into trouble! haha J/K!

For suggesting the free a/c? Hehe you read that pala :lol: Psst shhhh quiet lang tayo. :lol:

Gibson@G&W

December 20th, 2007, 07:13 AM

For suggesting the free a/c? Hehe you read that pala :lol: Psst shhhh quiet lang tayo. :lol:

Haha! Of course I read that...pasimple ka pa! haha! :lol:

Believe it or not...this A/C issue is so divided...I talked to a unit owner the other day who swear by window type...as adviced even by A/C manufacturers' people daw. Some naman, Split type talaga.

At the end of the day, I think both have their pros and cons...and it all boils down to preference.

As a unit owner, I think A/C is one of those things you should treat like you treat your cars...use it as much as you want, but make sure to maintain it properly (professinoally cleaned regularly) and everything should be fine.

thomasian

December 20th, 2007, 07:22 AM

^^ And if they want to save on the cleaning, they could contact the a/c guys directly, no need to inform the office! :D Kami kasi, after the first cleaning (it's given free by Condura), we asked the a/c guys how much the subsequent cleanings would be. And then we asked for their cellphone # sabay tanong "Sa susunod sa inyo na lang direkta ha? Di namin kayo ibubuko sa office nyo!". :lol: Pumayag sila, so now we get the cleaning at an affordable price. :nuts:

Gibson@G&W

December 20th, 2007, 09:53 AM

I have number of guys who do it directly too...hehe!

gasrock

December 20th, 2007, 05:07 PM

I knew G&W is too good to overlook an important detail like not providing drip tubes in their design. But it is always reassuring to get the confirmation from the top dog himself. So, walang STD ang mga G&W condos.

*sexually transmitted diseases.

august88boy

December 20th, 2007, 10:13 PM

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/FBGC/IMG_2923.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/FBGC/IMG_2924.jpg

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http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/FBGC/IMG_2931.jpg

so clean and white, parang nilaban sa tide :)
more pics, please :banana:
thomasian nasaan na update pics mo?

--SuperB0y--

December 20th, 2007, 10:20 PM

may meeting ako kanina sa high street. i made it a point to pass by crescent west. wow, ganda ng GH! impressive! congrats sa buyers dito! good choice.

--SuperB0y--

December 20th, 2007, 10:21 PM

i have to say, the pictures doesn't give justice with the actual finished product!

dunamis

December 21st, 2007, 03:20 AM

Thanks for the clarification. I stand corrected. Its the evaporator that cools the room. This is the cycle for a basic refrigeration system.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/Heatpump.svg/300px-Heatpump.svg.png

My aircon is a new drip free aircon from condura but it still drips even when its hot, FYI.

Nope, it's the evaporator that cools the room when the fan blows the air from the room into the evaporator, cooling it, and then out into the room again. And it's also in the evaporator where the moisture from the air in the room condenses, then it goes out into the catch basin where the air blown into the condenser by the condenser-fan evaporates it.

Sometimes when the weather is too hot and humid, a lot of water condenses on the evaporator, and the ambient air blown by the condenser fan is not enough to evaporate it sufficiently, leaving excess water on the catch basin.

But because excess water may be handled differently by airconditioners from different manufacturers, there are those with a hose outlet (as you were saying) for that excess water, while there are those without - the drip-free ones. And since we are talking about the drip-free aircons here, we don't exactly need the... that you're talking about.

So The Grand Hamptons, even without that "provision for the tubes of condensed water of aircons" that you were saying, does not mean that it's not a good condo development.

Excess water from the drip-free aircons may be handled differently by different brands. Although the one I'm familiar with is the Condura/Carrier/Kelvinator by Concepcion-Carrier Industries because it's the one we have at home. The excess water (only present during hotter-than-the-usual days) for those brands in their drip-free models are handled by the condenser fan which splashes it into the hot condenser evaporating it quickly, almost instantly, so there won't be a need for the "provision for the tubes of condensed water of aircons" that you said should be present in a good condo development.

Although it wouldn't hurt to have one as the drip-free system is not always perfect. Improper installation, manufacturing defects, or other unforseen factors can cause a few drips every now and then, but generally, it's still a system than can go without the "provision for the tubes of condensed water of aircons".

thomasian

December 21st, 2007, 07:08 AM

stephenpdavid

December 21st, 2007, 04:51 PM

I have a client who is an unit owner of GH1. Can anyone please provide me a unit floor plan of 10-F?

Many thanks! :)

D'Transporter

December 22nd, 2007, 06:07 PM

that means meron talagang tutulong tubig, and there's no such thing as completely drip-free :D

In an air conditioning system there are evaporating coils and condensing coils. Each coil passes to a radiator. There is a radiator for the condensing coils in the heat pump outside the building and there is a radiator for the evaporating coils right in front of the air handling unit. Usually if the humidity (water in the air) or temperature difference between surrounding air and refrigirant is very high around the evaporating coils and radiator setup it builds up moisture or ice on the fins of the radiator because it's very cold. It's this moisture or ice build up that you guys have to worry about. A good AC setup usually provide a catch pan with a drain pipe to divert this water to the house drain (good solution) or outside the building (not good for your case). This case is similar to both single or split units.

Moisture builds up between 6 & 7 in the diagram below

http://electrostatic-filter.com/pics/hpcool.gif

august88boy

December 24th, 2007, 10:59 AM

rgbisaya

December 24th, 2007, 05:48 PM

The technical answer on the aircon issue was already beaten to death..heheehe how about changing the topic on electrical outlet. What will be required to have a 110V line outlet installed instead of a 220V without violating any city code requirements. Merry Christmas an lang sa lahat diyan

D'Transporter

December 24th, 2007, 06:20 PM

rgbisaya

December 24th, 2007, 07:19 PM

rgbisaya

December 24th, 2007, 07:20 PM

Usually the main building has a main electrical service panel and the units have subpanels you can just have an electrical guy check your service panel if the hot feed is composed of two 110V lines he can just remove one of the line and cap it then that will leave you 110V only on your unit, if the hot feed is composed only of a single 220V cable then you can have the electrical guy install a step down transformer before your subpanel to bring it down to 110V. If your hot feed is composed of two 110V lines you can also ask your electrical guy to set it up so some outlets are 220V and some are 110V because local codes might require you a minimum number of 220V outlets.

Kanda-doble tuloy. anyway thanks again.

realtor_manila

December 25th, 2007, 04:35 AM

There are only 220V outlets at Grand Hamptons. Same with Penhurst Parkplace and Kensington Place and all other BTO projects.

rgbisaya

December 25th, 2007, 12:13 PM

There are only 220V outlets at Grand Hamptons. Same with Penhurst Parkplace and Kensington Place and all other BTO projects.

Can a unit owner request to install a 110V outlet along with the existing 220V.

realtor_manila

December 25th, 2007, 03:43 PM

^^^^

No.

The "wiring" (I don't know if I used the right term) for the entire building is for 220 Volts only.

And in general, all condo buildings at BGC have 220 V only. (Note: Pacific Plaza Towers, a high-end/premium condominium building at BGC, have 110 V outlets).

So just in case you really want to use "110 V appliances", you really have to buy a transformer.

august88boy

December 25th, 2007, 10:50 PM

calling thomasian, isama mo na interior pics ng grand hamptons sa next pic update mo :)

gen1

December 25th, 2007, 11:38 PM

OilMover

December 26th, 2007, 12:08 AM

gen1

December 26th, 2007, 12:25 AM

yup. that's true about the wide prong and the narrow prong. there is also the semi oval prong which is the earthing prong which protects the consumer from nasty shocks.

the narrow prong is the nuetral. this is where you should connect the green wire. but even if you make a mistake in connecting the wires the equipment will not shazaam on you :)

I used this method for the 110V cappucino machine in my condo. I would have needed an enourmous, and therefore unsightly, 1500VA transformer for my then very expensive coffee machine (this was in 95).

I will not recommend this method for electronics because this is prone to voltage flunctuations.

gen1

December 26th, 2007, 12:33 AM

wow, dami replies tungkol sa 'technical' ng ACU. thanks for the info.
kaya lang wag na natin pasakitin ulo ng mga unit owners, medyo nahihilo na rin ako hehe,....
ang question ko naman ay ano ba pinaka-OK na brand ng wall-type saka split-type na aircon?

you can't go wrong with carrier. condura's an ok brand as well.

window type AC's are more energy efficient than splits at the lower HP ratings but are annoyingly noisy.

-TC-

December 26th, 2007, 10:29 AM

august88boy

December 26th, 2007, 12:45 PM

pics!!!
pics!!!

:banana:

realtor_manila

December 27th, 2007, 01:37 AM

There are few 110V appliances nowadays as most of these already have "autovolt" features. :)

That's good news! Thank you

thomasian

December 27th, 2007, 09:18 AM

pics!!!
pics!!!

:banana:

Photoshoot for official updates has been unofficially rescheduled next week according to a G&W staff, will confirm with sir Gibs when he arrives.

Happy New Year to everyone.

august88boy

December 27th, 2007, 12:07 PM

kala ko ba weekly. naging monthly.
ako na lang kukuha mga pics :D :jk:

happy new year to all SSCers ! :)

stephenpdavid

December 27th, 2007, 02:22 PM

Paging Aaron Ofngol...Please log-on to your ym account..thanks! :)

thomasian

December 28th, 2007, 06:50 AM

I'm sorry I was out to have my thesis documents checked last night. Grabe, inabot kami nung dalawang prof ko at ibang classmates ko ng midnight sa condo ng isang classmate din. Habang nagluluto ng carbonara yung prof ko na chef din, yung isa naman eh iginigisa din ako dun sa may table sa sobrang kalkal ng documentation ng thesis ko at ini-isa-isa nya yung mga mali. wahh... ang dami pang babaguhin at idadagdag :( January na lang daw ang re-defense pag kumpleto na para walang sablay.

P.S. Barangay G&W guys, I'll delete our messages afterwards, thanks.

gasrock

December 29th, 2007, 01:42 AM

this is correct. at the specific outlet you want to change to 110V, remove one of the "hot wires" and in it's place insert the "green" earthing wire. you will get 110V. be sure to tape up the end of the hot wire you removed.

this violates the electrical code though, so use this technique sparingly.

I've done it before in my old condo (diy).

the narrow prong is the nuetral. this is where you should connect the green wire. but even if you make a mistake in connecting the wires the equipment will not shazaam on you :)

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I was actually thinking of doing this conversion once I get my unit turned over but was never sure if pinas uses two 110v black wires to achieve 220v just like in the states or do they have a single 220v and a white neutral from the circuit breaker. Does anyone know for sure?
Btw, in the US the wide prong is the neutral and the narrow prong is the hot wire unless it was wired incorrectly. Not sure if this is the case in pinas.

laquacherra

December 29th, 2007, 04:07 AM

^^ if you do that, don't you have to watch out about balancing the load too or something like that?

august88boy

December 29th, 2007, 05:30 AM

... or do they have a single 220v and a white neutral from the circuit breaker. .

correct. :)

gasrock

December 29th, 2007, 05:42 AM

^^ if you do that, don't you have to watch out about balancing the load too or something like that?
Lauren, you are right....if you're putting a heavy load on this circuit or if you do this to more than one circuit breaker and you use the same power leg of the subpanel there will be an unbalanced between the two 110v power legs. Bit it's all a moot point because august88boy confirms that pinas uses one 220v hot wire per wall outlet and not two 110v like we have here in the states.
Kamusta na? At bakit alam mo ang tungkol sa load balance?

august88boy

December 29th, 2007, 05:54 AM

i remember a master electrician saying, " pinakamainam ay gumamit na lang ng stepdown transformer." :)

gen1

December 29th, 2007, 08:52 AM

I was actually thinking of doing this conversion once I get my unit turned over but was never sure if pinas uses two 110v black wires to achieve 220v just like in the states or do they have a single 220v and a white neutral from the circuit breaker. Does anyone know for sure?
Btw, in the US the wide prong is the neutral and the narrow prong is the hot wire unless it was wired incorrectly. Not sure if this is the case in pinas.

By gawd you're right. Kasi sa 'pinas the nema 5-20R is used like a nema 6-20R in the USA kaya I don't pay too much attention to polarity markings.

gen1

December 29th, 2007, 08:55 AM

Lauren, you are right....if you're putting a heavy load on this circuit or if you do this to more than one circuit breaker and you use the same power leg of the subpanel there will be an unbalanced between the two 110v power legs. Bit it's all a moot point because august88boy confirms that pinas uses one 220v hot wire per wall outlet and not two 110v like we have here in the states.
Kamusta na? At bakit alam mo ang tungkol sa load balance?

sa probinsiya they use the one hot 220V and one nuetral/ground wire.

Meralco uses 2 hot wires for 220V kaya the branch circuit breakers in manila are all 2-pole. Although slowly meralco is changing this practice to a 220Volt line to ground configuration (they need to change the distribution transformers to do this)

gen1

December 29th, 2007, 08:56 AM

i remember a master electrician saying, " pinakamainam ay gumamit na lang ng stepdown transformer." :)

hindi. ang pinakamainam ay gumamit na lang ng 220V na appliances :)

laquacherra

December 29th, 2007, 09:02 AM

^^ i agree. or, appliances with auto volt whenever possible.

Kasi sa 'pinas the nema 5-20R is used like a nema 6-20R in the USA kaya I don't pay too much attention to polarity markings.

more like NEMA 5-15R being used like a NEMA 6-15R... di va yung parallel with ground? :colgate:

laquacherra

December 29th, 2007, 09:03 AM

gen1

December 29th, 2007, 11:28 AM

^^ i agree. or, appliances with auto volt whenever possible.

more like NEMA 5-15R being used like a NEMA 6-15R... di va yung parallel with ground? :colgate:

15R is 15amp rated, where you use #14 awg (2.0mm) wire. ang 20R is 20amp rated where you typically use #12 awg (3.5mm) wire. mas typical ang 20amp circuits kapag outlets kasi it comes out cheaper since you can connect more outlets per circuit.

5R is 125V with a plug configuration similar to ours. ung 6R iyon ang 220V sa states - nakabukaka ang plug :)

stephenpdavid

December 29th, 2007, 11:36 AM

^^Kelan ba pwede mag-ocular visit ng mga units sa GH1?

august88boy

December 30th, 2007, 11:42 AM

Climax777

December 31st, 2007, 08:13 AM

august88boy

December 31st, 2007, 01:12 PM

tayo bang unit owners walang gift from sir Gibs? :lol:

ako meron natanggap.......calendar:) thanks, Nems.

and a round-trip ticket to Bali with accomodations :banana: :jk:

laquacherra

January 1st, 2008, 08:37 AM

15R is 15amp rated, where you use #14 awg (2.0mm) wire. ang 20R is 20amp rated where you typically use #12 awg (3.5mm) wire. mas typical ang 20amp circuits kapag outlets kasi it comes out cheaper since you can connect more outlets per circuit.

5R is 125V with a plug configuration similar to ours. ung 6R iyon ang 220V sa states - nakabukaka ang plug :)

yup, tawag ko dun yung "singkit" :lol: - like the plugs of the smaller window type Carrier ACs. but then strictly speaking yung mga NEMA5-20R & 6-20R ay naka letter "T" yung 2 prong + a ground. "only in the philippines" ata yung parallel grounding CO na NEMA5-15R is often referred to as rated 20amps. ah well ok lang i guess, as long as the wire size is big enough :)

august88boy

January 2nd, 2008, 01:26 PM

updated pics!!!

stephenpdavid

January 4th, 2008, 02:25 AM

G&W staff are very professional in dealing with clients & other constituents. They're very quick in responding my queries. My client's unit in GH1 is ready for ocular visit. The GH1 building administrator required us to show an authorization letter signed by the client that I can visit the unit without the appearance of the latter.

Kudos to G&W Team! :okay:

rgbisaya

January 7th, 2008, 12:24 AM

3cr

January 7th, 2008, 10:21 PM

Kamusta inspection mo Lito? Hope everything went well! Balitaan mo na lang kami how it went.
Yung amin nila Greg and Robbie lapit na rin ang turnover. Looking forward to ours as well. :) :) :)

gasrock

January 7th, 2008, 11:28 PM

Kamusta inspection mo Lito? Hope everything went well! Balitaan mo na lang kami how it went.
Yung amin nila Greg and Robbie lapit na rin ang turnover. Looking forward to ours as well. :) :) :)

Sa Friday pa ang inspection ni Lito 1/11/08.......bakit nga wala pang nagkuwento ng kanilang turnover experience? Delayed ba ang schedule.....di ba dapat may xmas party ang mga tower 1 owners? Ano na ang nangyari? Nasaan na ang mga excited at masasayang owners? Bakit napakatahimik ng thread na ito?

laquacherra

January 8th, 2008, 01:30 AM

^^ i'm sure they will be back. speaking from my own experience... now that they've seen & measured their actual units, nag shoshopping na sila ng furnishings :)

Dvorak

January 8th, 2008, 04:47 AM

aba aba.. sa 11 pa pala turnover ni Lito.. ay bakit napaka tahimik nyang isang yan.. tsk tsk tsk.. kaya nga di ko iniistorbo at baka kako busy na sa turnover.. ay sa 11 pa pala ha!! baka panay na naman goodtime at hindi man lang nag te text!! :banana:

Sa Friday pa ang inspection ni Lito 1/11/08.......bakit nga wala pang nagkuwento ng kanilang turnover experience? Delayed ba ang schedule.....di ba dapat may xmas party ang mga tower 1 owners? Ano na ang nangyari? Nasaan na ang mga excited at masasayang owners? Bakit napakatahimik ng thread na ito?

chillendawg

January 8th, 2008, 09:27 AM

^^Kelan ba pwede mag-ocular visit ng mga units sa GH1?

stephen can you do an interior design of my unit sa sapphire? 4D ako..please..naman oh...i should have met you in pinas.

stephenpdavid

January 8th, 2008, 12:09 PM

^^Sure chillendawg...Kindly PM me your concerns. Many thanks! :)

gasrock

January 9th, 2008, 02:09 AM

aba aba.. sa 11 pa pala turnover ni Lito.. ay bakit napaka tahimik nyang isang yan.. tsk tsk tsk.. kaya nga di ko iniistorbo at baka kako busy na sa turnover.. ay sa 11 pa pala ha!! baka panay na naman goodtime at hindi man lang nag te text!! :banana:

Baka naman busy with family matters, remember his grandfather passed away a few months back so maybe there are loose ends to take care of. At saka marami siyang kamag anak and we all know how it is pag hindi mo pinagbigyan ang mga imbitasyon eh baka magsamaan ng loob. So I'm sure he will surface when he has taken care of things. Besides, he bought a GW project so turnover should be a breeze considering how meticulous they are with all phases of their projects. I expect very few repairs or problems and should be fixed in a matter of days. Let's see who will be the first to post a report of their turnover.

august88boy

January 10th, 2008, 12:54 PM

wala pang updates?
thomasian, were you fired? :lol: :jk:

chillendawg

January 11th, 2008, 06:06 AM

wala pang updates?
thomasian, were you fired? :lol: :jk:

OUCH!!

ATL404

January 12th, 2008, 04:55 AM

I have learned through the experience of a condo owner in another building that their tax liability during turnover was substantially reduced by combining the turnover documentation for a condo unit and parking slot into one. Having separate documentation apparently results in higher tax liability. Since such is the case G&W needs to consolidate the turnover documentation for the condo unit and the parking slot into a single document in order to reduce the property/transfer tax upon turnover. Gibson or anyone from G&W, kindly reply if you happen to read this post as this is an important concern to all Grand Hamptons owners. Thanks very much.

Vlad

gasrock

January 12th, 2008, 08:10 AM

^^ Vlad, aren't you a GH1 owner? Sounds like you have not done your turnover inspection yet. What is going on with this project.......

3cr

January 12th, 2008, 08:23 AM

No news from Lito either...Mmmm bakit kaya M.I.A....

august88boy

January 12th, 2008, 12:29 PM

dalawa lang ang dahilan ng pananahimik ng thread, either hindi pa tapos ang turnover period or........ hindi satisfied ang mga unit owners.
i am very much more inclined to believe the first than the latter :) :banana:

Climax777

January 12th, 2008, 12:49 PM

^^Really exciting talaga sa mga unit owners,hopefully sa turnovers lang siguro?...wala pa ring nag post ng interior fin.hehehe surprise! surprise ah:cheers:

ATL404

January 12th, 2008, 11:53 PM

^^ Vlad, aren't you a GH1 owner? Sounds like you have not done your turnover inspection yet. What is going on with this project.......

Hey Gas! How are you? I hope the new year is unfolding nicely for all you FBGC'ers. Turnover date for me is Feb 11. The strange thing is that when I scheduled my turnover date there was no mention of a date for a walkthrough. I was not advised by anyone I spoke to that the walkthrough is to occur on a different date. I thought (though incorrectly) that the walkthrough would be on the same day but just hours prior to the turnover. As of now I have no schedule to do a walkthrough. I will have to get with the Property Management Group to schedule a walkthrough. This scheduling SNAFU needs to be straightened out because my trip to Manila is already booked and I don't have a lot of time to waste on screwups. Why I was allowed to schedule a turnover date without having first scheduled a walkthrough date is beyond me. Better coordination, communication, followup and feedback would have prevented all this but what's done is done. I'm a little miffed about this because I am 7,000 miles away from the signing table and it would mean money out of my pocket if I have to adjust my itinerary. Let's hope this can be resolved with as little pain as possible. I'll get back to you guys to let you know how it all goes down.

TheRick

January 13th, 2008, 02:17 AM

I guess the turnover is slightly delayed from the Dec 2007 target...

Hope to get some advice from the GH1 owners when GH2 gets turned over...

keypool

January 13th, 2008, 03:30 AM

I guess the turnover is slightly delayed from the Dec 2007 target...

Hope to get some advice from the GH1 owners when GH2 gets turned over...

Hi Rick,

Kamusta na? Do you still work in the middle of the ocean? :) I just got my accreditation from G&W as a licensed broker.

By the way, if you or anyone else wants to buy re-opened 1-bedroom units sa Grand Hamptons GH2, (turnover Dec 2008), PM me lang quick. I don't know kasi how long these units would remain open.

rgbisaya

January 13th, 2008, 03:23 PM

satchel

January 13th, 2008, 04:34 PM

Hi Keypool...when you say turnover dec 2008, does it mean owner can move in the property!! along with that is the unit inspection scheduled with the owner already occupying the property or does he still have to wait a couple more days to schedule the inspection. Need more information on this one as I really don't know the sequence, don't want to schedule my vacation days then all of a sudden I will be needing more time than scheduled. Which one comes first inspection or turnover. Maybe GH1 owners can also shed light on this question.

am not a GH owner but i did have a turnover experience at the previous BTO project, kensington.

i wasn't aware of this forum then so i just waited for g&w's notice of turnover via mail. then i called them to schedule an inspection of the unit. tapos antay ulit para ayusin ng contractor yung mga things na hindi pasado sa inspection. tapos i accepted the unit then did the finishings myself. hindi kasi model unit finish yung kinuha ko.

as far as timetables, i think the published completion date of kensington was aug06. i got my notice around mid-september. when i called to set an inspection sked, early october na yata yung available na slot. (pero medyo bumagyo nun kaya medyo na-push back lahat ng insections skeds.) then, it took a couple more months for my contractor to do the finishing work.

i imagine mas mabilis yung process ngayon since mas marami naman yatang kumuha ng model-unit-finish.

i suggest you be proactive and call them even before you get a notice via mail. para you can have an earlier inspection sked.

rgbisaya

January 13th, 2008, 06:16 PM

am not a GH owner but i did have a turnover experience at the previous BTO project, kensington.

i wasn't aware of this forum then so i just waited for g&w's notice of turnover via mail. then i called them to schedule an inspection of the unit. tapos antay ulit para ayusin ng contractor yung mga things na hindi pasado sa inspection. tapos i accepted the unit then did the finishings myself. hindi kasi model unit finish yung kinuha ko.

as far as timetables, i think the published completion date of kensington was aug06. i got my notice around mid-september. when i called to set an inspection sked, early october na yata yung available na slot. (pero medyo bumagyo nun kaya medyo na-push back lahat ng insections skeds.) then, it took a couple more months for my contractor to do the finishing work.

i imagine mas mabilis yung process ngayon since mas marami naman yatang kumuha ng model-unit-finish.

i suggest you be proactive and call them even before you get a notice via mail. para you can have an earlier inspection sked.

Thanks..that could have changed now at least since they (GW) have the experience in handling the process. Still waiting for some GH1 owners experience in sharing this important process to avoid drinking "Maalox" for gas pain.

TheRick

January 13th, 2008, 06:28 PM

Hi Rick,

Kamusta na? Do you still work in the middle of the ocean? :) I just got my accreditation from G&W as a licensed broker.

By the way, if you or anyone else wants to buy re-opened 1-bedroom units sa Grand Hamptons GH2, (turnover Dec 2008), PM me lang quick. I don't know kasi how long these units would remain open.

Hi Keypool...
Yes still working offshore but right now i'm home.
Sige, If come accross someone who is interested I will PM you.

I was always told GH2's official turnover date is Oct 2008.
But I think Dec 2008 would be wise to target to give so allowance just incase it gets delayed by a tad. :lol:

I'm just wondering if the "Ready-to-Receive" units could be turned over earlier than the "Model Finished" units.
Maybe start the finishing the "Ready-to-Receive" units same time as the "Model Finished" units...:)
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gasrock

January 13th, 2008, 07:54 PM

Hey Gas! How are you? I hope the new year is unfolding nicely for all you FBGC'ers. Turnover date for me is Feb 11. The strange thing is that when I scheduled my turnover date there was no mention of a date for a walkthrough. I was not advised by anyone I spoke to that the walkthrough is to occur on a different date. I thought (though incorrectly) that the walkthrough would be on the same day but just hours prior to the turnover. As of now I have no schedule to do a walkthrough. I will have to get with the Property Management Group to schedule a walkthrough. This scheduling SNAFU needs to be straightened out because my trip to Manila is already booked and I don't have a lot of time to waste on screwups. Why I was allowed to schedule a turnover date without having first scheduled a walkthrough date is beyond me. Better coordination, communication, followup and feedback would have prevented all this but what's done is done. I'm a little miffed about this because I am 7,000 miles away from the signing table and it would mean money out of my pocket if I have to adjust my itinerary. Let's hope this can be resolved with as little pain as possible. I'll get back to you guys to let you know how it all goes down.

Vlad, thanks for posting a bit about your turnover schedule SNAFU. I think most unit owners from outside pinas will benefit greatly from what you have just shared. I have been following this thread and other threads in order to pick up some tips and also to educate myself on the sequence of events that need to be performed during turnover. If one was to review the old posts it is evident that the biggest worry of expats is screwups like this. We don't care (or at least I don't) about meeting the scheduled turnover date....what I'm more concerned about is that the process goes smoothly. That the turnover happens in order and that the building is ready and has passed GW inspection. So I hear the concern in your message. Let's hope that your experience is an isolated one and that other GH1 or future GH2 owners will have better communication, feedback, coordination and follow up.
But in all fairness to GW problems like this is sometimes hard to avoid considering the total number of unit owners must number a couple of hundred or more. But what I am keeping an eye out for is HOW GW will handle these bumps in the process. I remember last year when our good friend Bart had the same difficulties with is turnover at Serendra. He was taken cared of and made whole and he remains the biggest advocate of Serendra quality. I am reminded the Japanese car companies in the early 80's....it is not that Toyotas and Hondas did not break or have problems, it was how they treated the owners and fixed the problems that earned Japanese cars their reputation for quality.
Perhaps you are the lucky one in that you have uncovered these unpleasant surprises and GW will be able to remedy and facilitate your turnover process. Please do keep us posted as per developments.

rgbisaya

January 13th, 2008, 11:08 PM

Vlad, thanks for posting a bit about your turnover schedule SNAFU. I think most unit owners from outside pinas will benefit greatly from what you have just shared. I have been following this thread and other threads in order to pick up some tips and also to educate myself on the sequence of events that need to be performed during turnover. If one was to review the old posts it is evident that the biggest worry of expats is screwups like this. We don't care (or at least I don't) about meeting the scheduled turnover date....what I'm more concerned about is that the process goes smoothly. That the turnover happens in order and that the building is ready and has passed GW inspection. So I hear the concern in your message. Let's hope that your experience is an isolated one and that other GH1 or future GH2 owners will have better communication, feedback, coordination and follow up.
But in all fairness to GW problems like this is sometimes hard to avoid considering the total number of unit owners must number a couple of hundred or more. But what I am keeping an eye out for is HOW GW will handle these bumps in the process. I remember last year when our good friend Bart had the same difficulties with is turnover at Serendra. He was taken cared of and made whole and he remains the biggest advocate of Serendra quality. I am reminded the Japanese car companies in the early 80's....it is not that Toyotas and Hondas did not break or have problems, it was how they treated the owners and fixed the problems that earned Japanese cars their reputation for quality.
Perhaps you are the lucky one in that you have uncovered these unpleasant surprises and GW will be able to remedy and facilitate your turnover process. Please do keep us posted as per developments.

We the expat are aware of the process of turnover, since we ourselves have experienced in the turnover process when we purchased a house in the USA. Depending on the contractors reputation in giving a good quality finish, we still can find minor stuff to be corrected for almost a year (our case). Now, not having the experience in PI about the quality of the finished product, we rely mostly on how the owners (GW) initial inspection will expedite the quick process of turnover. We do understand that there will be instances of miscommunication in notifying the new owners, but again as you mentioned the reputation is on them if they would like to remain number one in this business. Reputation is something that is earned and is not given. Hope that we will experience this turnover process as painless as possible. Don't we think this is something that we have to address to Gibson for resolution..just asking.

keypool

January 14th, 2008, 10:23 AM

Hi Keypool...when you say turnover dec 2008, does it mean owner can move in the property!! along with that is the unit inspection scheduled with the owner already occupying the property or does he still have to wait a couple more days to schedule the inspection. Need more information on this one as I really don't know the sequence, don't want to schedule my vacation days then all of a sudden I will be needing more time than scheduled. Which one comes first inspection or turnover. Maybe GH1 owners can also shed light on this question.

Hi Rg,

Yes, turnover means you can move in the property.

The process is like this: You schedule your unit inspection on December 2008 and you sign an acceptance memo if it passes your approval. If it does not, G&W contractor would take a week or two to do the correction, depending on the extent of the complaint.

Then follows a second inspection and the whole process is done again until the unit is finally accepted by you.

Upon acceptance, you get your homeowner's manual as well as you paying the other dues like the assocation dues, electric meter deposit, and other processing fees. You can ask your agent or write G&W to give you the exact breakdown for your unit.

gasrock

January 14th, 2008, 05:04 PM

Upon acceptance, you get your homeowner's manual as well as you paying the other dues like the assocation dues, electric meter deposit, and other processing fees. You can ask your agent or write G&W to give you the exact breakdown for your unit.

If you pay the electric meter deposit upon acceptance does this mean that the unit does not have electric power when you're doing the inspection? Kasi how can you test the electrical if there is no power? I'm sure GW will not let that happen. Or maybe I misunderstood......

keypool

January 14th, 2008, 05:32 PM

If you pay the electric meter deposit upon acceptance does this mean that the unit does not have electric power when you're doing the inspection? Kasi how can you test the electrical if there is no power? I'm sure GW will not let that happen. Or maybe I misunderstood......

I would think there is power na when you do your inspection. Ganun din kasi sa ibang condo purchases ko when i had turnover units sa ibang FBGC projects. Either Meralco issues a temporary meter or we just reimburse G&W for it.

chillendawg

January 14th, 2008, 11:20 PM

Ang gulo noh? mga agents, I'm sure you have plenty of experiences with condo turnover. Shouldn't there be a standard procedure? or some kind of guidance as to how things are done in the Philippines? It seems to me na even the ones that are from the Philippines are not clear either. I'm sorry, but everyone seems to have this face >>>>:ohno::nuts::ohno: joke lang! can someone help?

Dvorak

January 15th, 2008, 05:24 AM

sa ibang condos.. you pay Meralco meter / water meter earlier.. para sa turnover.. i che check mo na lang yung reading.. then mag start na don yung consumption mo.. yup.. mahalaga may power and water na pag nag punchlist ka..

If you pay the electric meter deposit upon acceptance does this mean that the unit does not have electric power when you're doing the inspection? Kasi how can you test the electrical if there is no power? I'm sure GW will not let that happen. Or maybe I misunderstood......

gasrock

January 15th, 2008, 05:42 AM

^^ Kaya nga sana maging streamlined ang process ng turnover para hindi masyadong maabala ang mga tiga ibang bansa. Ang mga maliit na bagay na gaya nitong meralco at tubig sana ang developer na ang mag asikaso nito at ang halaga ay idagdag na lang sa closing cost para pag dating ng may ari ay hindi na niya kailangan asikasuhin ang maliit na bagay na ito at tuloy mapabilis ang process ng turnover. Maliit na halaga lang iyan na hindi naman mag reklamo ang unit owners na galing sa labas ng bansa kasi nga gaya ng sabi ni Vlad.....mas magastos ang magbago ng itinerary or mag stay ng extra days sa hotel dahil na slow down ang process ng mga maliit na bagay. Eh di bale kung pagkabayad mo ay may tubig at kuryente na agad ang unit mo....ang madalas eh baka ilang araw pa bago makabit ang service mo.....eh di nasasayang naman ang oras ng kawawang unit owner.

chillendawg

January 15th, 2008, 12:46 PM

keypool

January 15th, 2008, 02:01 PM

gasrock

January 15th, 2008, 05:13 PM

Hi guys,

I will try to help and verify this for you and post G&W's reply here. Wala pa kasi akong client / benta sa G&W being new pa lang, so I haven't encountered unit turnover concerns. Just wondering, but shouldn't your agents be helping you on this?

Agents can only tell us how things should proceed......how it actually goes down is beyond their control. Besides, there's a lot of eyes on this project from unit owners of GH2 and the two Sapphires to learn what to expect.

laquacherra

January 16th, 2008, 02:43 AM

Agents can only tell us how things should proceed......how it actually goes down is beyond their control.

i agree. the process of the unit turnover is mostly between the developer and the unit owners.

Dvorak

January 16th, 2008, 03:20 AM

sa naranasan kong turn overs / punch listing.. wala na yung agent.. ang kasama mo ay somebody from the developer.. usually a building engineer..

Gibson@G&W

January 16th, 2008, 03:53 AM

palagay ko hanggat hindi tapos ang karamihang units hindi pa pwede. one reason kaya pinostpone ni sir Gibs ang update-pics ni thomasian, holiday kasi wlang ganong trabaho kaya konte lang ang accomplishment.

happy new year and new home to all grand hamptons unit owners!!!

Hay, tama ka diyan...sorry for not updating people...I was very surprised at the lack of progress from December 15 to January 2 in the tower...a lot of people seem to have a problem with remembering tasks on these dates. Been on site almost everyday to follow up follow up follow up, masakit talaga sa ulo.

As of yesterday I am happier with the progress already, and it seems that they are coming back on the right track. They only finished filling up the pool with water yesterday!!!! :ohno:

So far there have been over 30 units turned over...not everyone went as smoothly as hoped, but we are working hard to make sure that they will be satisfied with the units...afterall, this is the process of punchlist and walk-through.

I have scheduled with Thomasian already a photoshoot tomorrow, with pictrues of the interiors...hope to update everyone in the soonest possible time.

Gibson@G&W

January 16th, 2008, 06:15 AM

sa naranasan kong turn overs / punch listing.. wala na yung agent.. ang kasama mo ay somebody from the developer.. usually a building engineer..

Actually, we require the brokers that we work with to be present in the turn-over. I personally think it is part of the job of the broker to assist the unit owner.

Dvorak

January 16th, 2008, 06:51 AM

uy what time yang photoshoot?? baka nasa BGC area ako bukas mga 3pm onwards.. pwede bang makisilip?? heheheh

Hay, tama ka diyan...sorry for not updating people...I was very surprised at the lack of progress from December 15 to January 2 in the tower...a lot of people seem to have a problem with remembering tasks on these dates. Been on site almost everyday to follow up follow up follow up, masakit talaga sa ulo.

As of yesterday I am happier with the progress already, and it seems that they are coming back on the right track. They only finished filling up the pool with water yesterday!!!! :ohno:

So far there have been over 30 units turned over...not everyone went as smoothly as hoped, but we are working hard to make sure that they will be satisfied with the units...afterall, this is the process of punchlist and walk-through.

I have scheduled with Thomasian already a photoshoot tomorrow, with pictrues of the interiors...hope to update everyone in the soonest possible time.

jetsetgo

January 16th, 2008, 02:00 PM

I agree with Gibson for I used to work with a construction firm. Pag holiday season talaga kahit anong strikto ng schedule mo walang gana mag trabaho ang mga workers even the high-rank employees pa. Tignan nyo this month magsisipag lahat yan ubos na kasi mga 13th month pay at bonuses eh:).

august88boy

January 16th, 2008, 02:27 PM

I have scheduled with Thomasian already a photoshoot tomorrow, with pictrues of the interiors...hope to update everyone in the soonest possible time.

:banana: :banana: :banana:

thomasian

January 16th, 2008, 04:11 PM

Hay, tama ka diyan...sorry for not updating people...I was very surprised at the lack of progress from December 15 to January 2 in the tower...a lot of people seem to have a problem with remembering tasks on these dates. Been on site almost everyday to follow up follow up follow up, masakit talaga sa ulo.

As of yesterday I am happier with the progress already, and it seems that they are coming back on the right track. They only finished filling up the pool with water yesterday!!!! :ohno:

So far there have been over 30 units turned over...not everyone went as smoothly as hoped, but we are working hard to make sure that they will be satisfied with the units...afterall, this is the process of punchlist and walk-through.

I have scheduled with Thomasian already a photoshoot tomorrow, with pictrues of the interiors...hope to update everyone in the soonest possible time.

Thank you sir Gibs. Will communicate with you tomorrow when I'm on my way to the site, hopefully maihatid ako para hindi naman ngarag sa byahe. :D

The good news is, my mom already ordered the wide-angle lens from Kodak. The bad news, really bad news... it will take roughly 3 weeks for it to arrive, and that's even without the lens adapter because they're still discussing whether they'll allow us to purchase one as they buy those in bulk. :ohno: As for alternatives, my dad and I scoured the Hidalgo St. photography stores in Quiapo for the lens and adapter but no luck, as they mostly have accessories and lenses for SLRs only, diretso na daw kami sa Kodak, pero tagal naman sa Kodak Phil, 3 weeks na nga, di pa sigurado ang adaptor. But I'll still try my best for the interior shots even with the limited field of view without a wide-angle lens, will see if I can just take several shots with the tripod then stitch them together.

As for this part...
...hope to update everyone in the soonest possible time.

...I'll just bring the laptop tomorrow, so I can quickly upload some of the pics (that will be approved by sir Gibs for posting, transfer na agad sa laptop ni sir Gibs yung mga pics para mapili na agad niya ang ipo-post) while still in BGC, have to get a haircut pa kasi afterwards, that much delayed haircut because of the thesis (na pati dentist ko kinausap ni mama pa ipostpone din muna ang adjustment ng braces tapos may tanggal pa akong bracket dahil nginatngat ko pa yung buto ng crispy pata kasi puro taba yung laman kaya yung balat na lang sa dulo ng buto ang pinagdiskitahan ko), dapat nung December pa kaso late na kami nakarating ng BGC because of another school project na kailangan munang dalhin sa school before BGC, tapos gabi na nakarating ng BGC, then dinner, tapos pagpunta ng FIX at 9:15pm, whata, sarado na, akala ko pa naman gabi silang nagsasara tulad nung ibang establishments sa Serendra :bash: )
...haha, ang dami ko na yatang nakwento kasi wala naman akong nakakausap dito sa bahay eh. :D So, san ba dun may libreng WiFi para ma-upload agad ang ibang pics ASAP? :colgate:

stephenpdavid

January 16th, 2008, 04:23 PM

^^Free WiFi spots in BGC:

1. Pier One, The Fort, Fort Bonifacio Global City
2. Pasto, The Fort, Fort Bonifacio Global City
3. Gloria Jean - Boni Stopover, Fort Bonifacio Global City
4. Krispy Kreme-High Street (get the password of the day from the staff)
5. Seattle's Best - Bonifacio Hi Street

Good luck, Thomasian! :)

-TC-

January 16th, 2008, 04:26 PM

Thank you sir Gibs. Will communicate with you tomorrow when I'm on my way to the site, hopefully maihatid ako para hindi naman ngarag sa byahe. :D

The good news is, my mom already ordered the wide-angle lens from Kodak. The bad news, really bad news... it will take roughly 3 weeks for it to arrive, and that's even without the lens adapter because they're still discussing whether they'll allow us to purchase one as they buy those in bulk. :ohno: As for alternatives, my dad and I scoured the Hidalgo St. photography stores in Quiapo for the lens and adapter but no luck, as they mostly have accessories and lenses for SLRs only, diretso na daw kami sa Kodak, pero tagal naman sa Kodak Phil, 3 weeks na nga, di pa sigurado ang adaptor. But I'll still try my best for the interior shots even with the limited field of view without a wide-angle lens, will see if I can just take several shots with the tripod then stitch them together.

I suggest you borrow the lens adapter muna. SSC photography buffs may have what you need.

As for this part...

...I'll just bring the laptop tomorrow, so I can quickly upload some of the pics (that will be approved by sir Gibs for posting, transfer na agad sa laptop ni sir Gibs yung mga pics para mapili na agad niya ang ipo-post) while still in BGC, have to get a haircut pa kasi afterwards, that much delayed haircut because of the thesis (na pati dentist ko kinausap ni mama pa ipostpone din muna ang adjustment ng braces tapos may tanggal pa akong bracket dahil nginatngat ko pa yung buto ng crispy pata kasi puro taba yung laman kaya yung balat na lang sa dulo ng buto ang pinagdiskitahan ko), dapat nung December pa kaso late na kami nakarating ng BGC because of another school project na kailangan munang dalhin sa school before BGC, tapos gabi na nakarating ng BGC, then dinner, tapos pagpunta ng FIX at 9:15pm, whata, sarado na, akala ko pa naman gabi silang nagsasara tulad nung ibang establishments sa Serendra :bash: )
...haha, ang dami ko na yatang nakwento kasi wala naman akong nakakausap dito sa bahay eh. :D So, san ba dun may libreng WiFi para ma-upload agad ang ibang pics ASAP? :colgate:

I'm sure you can do the uploading in the G&W office. @Gibs wouldn't mind. I think. Hehe. :D

Dvorak

January 17th, 2008, 03:18 AM

what time ka nandon aaron?? tawid ka lang sa gloria jeans may libre nang wifi don..

So, san ba dun may libreng WiFi para ma-upload agad ang ibang pics ASAP? :colgate:

pau_p1

January 17th, 2008, 04:34 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v162/pau_p1/BGC1/DSC06803.jpg

TheRick

January 17th, 2008, 05:01 AM

Wow! ^^
Great Progress!

Oct 31, 2007 Post
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v162/pau_p1/Global%20City/DSC04898.jpg

Jan 16, 2008 Post
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v162/pau_p1/BGC1/DSC06803.jpg

TheRick

January 17th, 2008, 05:17 AM

Oct 31 pic - GH2 about 9 floors ahead over FPS. (5 Basement Levels)
Jan 16 pic - GH2 about 12 floors ahead over FPS. (2 Basement Levels)

Exciting Race... :lol:

rgbisaya

January 17th, 2008, 09:24 AM

Look like the completion date is way ahead of schedule (GH2) comparing the previous and current pictures.

august88boy

January 17th, 2008, 09:37 AM

wish the pics were taken on a sunny morning para mas maganda :)
talagang naging crescent west parking lot na yung kalahati. concrete pavement ba yun or pavers lang na nakapatong sa sand?
ganda ng mga puno sa gitna ng crescent west park, sana wag na tanggalin.

any update sa chateau de noble lot? Gibs, kunin nyo na yun kahit mahal :D

Wow! ^^
Great Progress!

Oct 31, 2007 Post
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v162/pau_p1/Global%20City/DSC04898.jpg

Jan 16, 2008 Post
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v162/pau_p1/BGC1/DSC06803.jpg

Dvorak

January 17th, 2008, 09:54 AM

some pics from my phone taken today (Jan. 17)

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/FBGC/Gh2l.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/FBGC/Gh2m.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/FBGC/Gh2n.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/FBGC/Gh2o.jpg

TheRick

January 17th, 2008, 09:56 AM

oh wow I didn't notice that...

I hope if they are going to do that then might as well build a big parking structure to maximize the land...
Since they destroyed the park anyway...

That is really BS!
I wonder if other parks will be en-dangered if all the lots have been sold...
It would have been so nice to have that Crescent Park...

keypool

January 17th, 2008, 01:04 PM

Hi guys.

I just want to update you that G&W staff told me that there will already be electricity and water in your unit during inspection and turnover.

gasrock

January 17th, 2008, 04:47 PM

Hi guys.

I just want to update you that G&W staff told me that there will already be electricity and water in your unit during inspection and turnover.

WHAAATTT!!?? Are you telling us that the first 30 unit owners were scheduled their walkthru inspection without water and electricity in their units? Wouldn't that be a waste of their time? Is this going to be standard procedure for GH2 turnover? Please tell me that I misunderstood your posting because you are making me worried and very concerned.

TheRick

January 17th, 2008, 05:37 PM

i was at mc kinley hills this afternoon. this is the rendering of their upcoming project Morgan Executive Residences

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l255/dodecruz/condos/MorganSuites.jpg

it looks promising... at medyo kamag-anak sya ng mga BTO projects in looks.

I see what you are saying...

It looks similar to Grand Hamptons with a little Penhurst on top...
With the colors of Kenisngton... :lol:

Morgan Executive Residences - Megaworld
http://www.readyforoccupancy.com/MorganSuites-02.jpg

Grand Hamptons - G&W
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/6695/grandhamptons001qc4.jpg

Penhurst - G&W
http://www.readyforoccupancy.com/PH-01.jpg

stephenpdavid

January 17th, 2008, 07:23 PM

Yesterday afternoon, I went to GH1 for an Ocular Visit. I'm doing an interior design/ decorating for a 2-bedroom unit.

Here are the interior pics of GH1 Common Areas:

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/stephenpdavid/_scraps/GH1Lobby_0007.jpg
Main Lobby

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/stephenpdavid/_scraps/GH1Lobby_0001.jpg
Main Lobby

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/stephenpdavid/_scraps/GH1Lobby_0006.jpg
Main Lobby

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/stephenpdavid/_scraps/GH1Lobby_0002.jpg
Main Lobby

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/stephenpdavid/_scraps/GH1GFElevatorLobby_0001.jpg
Ground Floor Elevator Lobby

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/stephenpdavid/_scraps/GH1SwimmingPool_0004.jpg
Swimming Pool

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/stephenpdavid/_scraps/GH110FElevatorLobby.jpg
Typical Floor Elevator Lobby

thomasian

January 17th, 2008, 08:01 PM

Okay, I know I'm not supposed to post pictures without the approval of sir Gibs, but since sir Stephen posted his, then I'll have to post my version. :D Sorry sir Gibs. :colgate: Will wait tomorrow for the list of pictures that will have to be uploaded.

Yesterday afternoon, I went to GH1 for an Ocular Visit. I'm doing an interior design/ decorating for a 2-bedroom unit...

Ay sayang, ngayon photoshoot namin eh, di tayo nagkita.

Pero nagkita kami ni ate Cynch kanina... sinamahan na ako ni sir Gibs sa site since papunta din sya dun, tapos umakyat muna sya habang kumukuha ako ng amenity area pictures, pagtingin ko sa taas sa isang 3rd floor unit, kita ko sa window si sir Gibs na may kasama, kahit hindi ko makita mukha ng kasama nya, narealize ko, it was ate Cynch's hair! :D At nung bumaba sila sa pool area, my guess was right, it was ate Cynch. :hilarious Natawa sya nung sinabi ko na nakita ko sila sa taas at nakilala ko yung buhok nya. :colgate:

Edit: Nung tinitignan ko yung ibang pics ko, parang yung renderings mo ang nakikita ko. :D hehe

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/stephenpdavid/_scraps/GH1Lobby_0007.jpghttp://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/stephenpdavid/_scraps/GH1Lobby_0001.jpg http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/stephenpdavid/_scraps/GH1Lobby_0006.jpghttp://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/stephenpdavid/_scraps/GH1Lobby_0002.jpg
Main Lobby

Scroll to the right --->>> it's a panorama of my five main-lobby shots
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/2008/350-354.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/stephenpdavid/_scraps/GH1GFElevatorLobby_0001.jpg
Ground Floor Elevator Lobby

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/2008/100_9357xdx.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/stephenpdavid/_scraps/GH110FElevatorLobby.jpg
Typical Floor Elevator Lobby

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/2008/100_9308x.jpg

gasrock

January 17th, 2008, 09:44 PM

Pero nagkita kami ni ate Cynch kanina... sinamahan na ako ni sir Gibs sa site since papunta din sya dun, tapos umakyat muna sya habang kumukuha ako ng amenity area pictures, pagtingin ko sa taas sa isang 3rd floor unit, kita ko sa window si sir Gibs na may kasama, kahit hindi ko makita mukha ng kasama nya, narealize ko, it was ate Cynch's hair! :D At nung bumaba sila sa pool area, my guess was right, it was ate Cynch. :hilarious Natawa sya nung sinabi ko na nakita ko sila sa taas at nakilala ko yung buhok nya. :colgate:
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Mukhang seryoso ba ang mga mukha? Siguradong business na naman ang pinag uusapan nila, siguro client ni Cynch ang may ari ng unit. Teka, wala naman yatang client si Cynch sa third floor, baka pinapakita lang ni Gibs ang pinaka magandang unit so far. Sana iyon ang gawing mong photoshoot location......puwede bang i-request?

TheRick

January 17th, 2008, 10:10 PM

TheRick

January 17th, 2008, 10:19 PM

Very Stunning!

GREAT PIC thomasian...
I'm pretty sure this is one of the pics that Gibs would choose to be posted...

Look at the Ceiling and the color scheme used...
If every G&W project keeps improving I can't even imagine how beautiful the interiors of the Sapphires and Crescent Park would be.

G&W has really set the bar really high on this one. ^^

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/2008/100_9308x.jpg

gasrock

January 17th, 2008, 10:29 PM

WOW!
Ang ganda ng lobby and hallways...
So much better than what I expected...

I'm hoping that these pics had Gibs approval to be posted.
I know alot for people are excited for updates but I'm sure G&W wanted to present the interior of GH1 when its really ready.
Para talagang ma suprise youn mga owners on how awesome the common areas are.
I couldn't agree more.....dapat talaga i-present ang product kung talagang ready na. We have the same mentality, are you from outside pinas too? Sana naman huwag ma surprise ang mga unit owners kasi expected naman nila na maganda ang mga pinag ka gastusang units nila at hindi lang ang common areas.

TheRick

January 18th, 2008, 01:29 AM

I couldn't agree more.....dapat talaga i-present ang product kung talagang ready na. We have the same mentality, are you from outside pinas too? Sana naman huwag ma surprise ang mga unit owners kasi expected naman nila na maganda ang mga pinag ka gastusang units nila at hindi lang ang common areas.

Yes, I live outside the country too.
That's why any update is always exciting.

I'm sure that ma-susuprise youn mga unit owners on how awesome youn mga common areas ng GH1...
I'm even more positive na youn mga "Model Unit" finishes will be more than what they expected.
I got "Ready to Receive" unit so I only expect bare unit...

No surprises for me :lol:

august88boy

January 18th, 2008, 05:51 AM

Great pics, stephenpdavid and thomasian!

Good job, G&W :) :okay:

chesterot

January 18th, 2008, 06:03 AM

Great pics, stephenpdavid and thomasian!

Good job, G&W :) :okay:

^^i coudn't agree more. really nice! sana lang nde masisante c thomasian, hehehe! i guess na threaten siya na maagaw ni stephendavid ang title na official photographer of G&W projects. :lol:

august88boy

January 18th, 2008, 06:54 AM

medyo magkamukha ang grand hamptons1 saka yung kensington :)

Scroll to the right --->>> it's a panorama of my five main-lobby shots
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/2008/350-354.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h229/gibsonyu/_DSC3070.jpg

thomasian

January 18th, 2008, 06:54 AM

Haha, delikado ba kayong mawalan ng official photographer? :D Diba may nagtatanong sakin dati if I was fired, magdilang anghel, err, demonyo, kaya sya? :hilarious

thomasian

January 18th, 2008, 07:04 AM

i coudn't agree more. really nice! sana lang nde masisante c thomasian, hehehe! i guess na threaten siya na maagaw ni stephendavid ang title na official photographer of G&W projects.

Hinde, nakita ko lang kasi na yung ibang pics ni sir Stephen kahit okay naman ang pagkakakuha eh may construction materials pa, much like the same interior pictures that I took during the previous photoshoot which obviously didn't make it's way here for that same reason, so I thought I also had to show here as soon as possible how it looks like cleared of most construction materials and staff.

august88boy

January 18th, 2008, 08:14 AM

so yung mga pics ni Stephen hindi na na-check ni sir Gibs. maganda naman kahit me mga workers and materials na nagkalat hehe :)
but people were expecting that you, thomasian, would have posted interior pics first since you're the official photographer of G&W...anyway, i'm sure Stephen had asked Gibs' permission to post the pics he took during the ocular visit. both of you are great :)

just kiddin' about that 'were you fired?' thing :D

the most important here is that the GH1 turned out to be so nice especially the grand lobby. interior of each unit should follow soon. can't wait. :banana:
happier and more excited are the unit owners :)

august88boy

January 18th, 2008, 08:19 AM

Stephen, anong material yang nakalagay sa walls? parang laminated fiberboard o ceramic tiles? mganda color combination.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/stephenpdavid/_scraps/GH110FElevatorLobby.jpg
Typical Floor Elevator Lobby

chillendawg

January 18th, 2008, 02:38 PM

Haha, delikado ba kayong mawalan ng official photographer? :D Diba may nagtatanong sakin dati if I was fired, magdilang anghel, err, demonyo, kaya sya? :hilarious

oo nga, kasi sobrang pagka bongangera at mas masahul pa sa bading....

kalbo96

January 18th, 2008, 04:30 PM

WOW!!! Ganda ng pagkagawa. :D Congratulations to the owners and developers.

thomasian

January 18th, 2008, 06:41 PM

Peace be in the G&W Country. :D

stephenpdavid

January 18th, 2008, 10:28 PM

Stephen, anong material yang nakalagay sa walls? parang laminated fiberboard o ceramic tiles? mganda color combination.

^^It's laminated board. :)

stephenpdavid

January 18th, 2008, 10:32 PM

^^i coudn't agree more. really nice! sana lang nde masisante c thomasian, hehehe! i guess na threaten siya na maagaw ni stephendavid ang title na official photographer of G&W projects. :lol:

^^Si Thomasian ang official photographer. :) Kinunan ko lang yung common areas ng GH1 para makita ng client ko (I'll do the interior works). :)...at para makita na rin ng mga SSC'ers..hehehe :p

gasrock

January 18th, 2008, 11:35 PM

Yes, I live outside the country too.
That's why any update is always exciting.

I'm sure that ma-susuprise youn mga unit owners on how awesome youn mga common areas ng GH1...
I'm even more positive na youn mga "Model Unit" finishes will be more than what they expected.
I got "Ready to Receive" unit so I only expect bare unit...

No surprises for me :lol:

My bad.....now I see you are from Louisiana. Are you a GH1 or GH2 owner? Yep, no surprises....that's the way to do it.

Climax777

January 19th, 2008, 11:30 AM

TheRick

January 19th, 2008, 06:03 PM

I'm a GH2 owner.
I'm hoping to learn from the GH1 owners from their experience in their turnover and timing on when they are allowed to finish their units.

How about you are a owner of GH1 or GH2?

My bad.....now I see you are from Louisiana. Are you a GH1 or GH2 owner? Yep, no surprises....that's the way to do it.

gasrock

January 19th, 2008, 06:25 PM

I'm a GH2 owner and watching the developments and silence on this thread.

TheRick

January 19th, 2008, 06:34 PM

I'm a GH2 owner and watching the developments and silence on this thread.

ha ha ha...

I'm pretty sure once the GH1 owners get their units turned over this thread will be flooded with pics and comments...
Its funny that we have patiently followed the construction but now that the turnover is within few days or weeks...
It feels like forever... :lol:

chillendawg

January 19th, 2008, 08:55 PM

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rgbisaya

January 20th, 2008, 05:22 AM

I'm a GH2 owner and watching the developments and silence on this thread.

We are in the same boat. There were some lessons learned from all the input owners (GH1) have made from their experiences. Thanks and keep it coming.:cheers:

gasrock

January 20th, 2008, 06:36 AM

We are in the same boat. There were some lessons learned from all the input owners (GH1) have made from their experiences. Thanks and keep it coming.:cheers:

????? What inputs from GH1 owners are you referring to? I'm still waiting for a bonafide owner to share their turnover experience. The uncomfortable silence does not bode well and causes me great concern.

chesterot

January 20th, 2008, 07:07 AM

thanks chillendawg for posting those much-awaited pics of yours.:banana:u seem to be motorized while taking those pics. parang inikutan mo yata ang bonifacio stopover ah. thanks for the circuitous, joy ride, hehehe! :lol: hinde ka ba man lang nakababa ng sasakyan to take pics and, maybe, mag courtesy call na rin kay sir gibs para lalo pang bumilis ang sapphire res?:banana2:

chesterot

January 20th, 2008, 07:12 AM

at oks ang sequence ng pics mo...parang from kalayaan flyover ba yon to GH1, in reverse nga lang...paikot talaga. :banana:

chillendawg

January 20th, 2008, 09:51 AM

at oks ang sequence ng pics mo...parang from kalayaan flyover ba yon to GH1, in reverse nga lang...paikot talaga. :banana:

naku madami pa...thats just part 1.....kakatamad lang magupload. hihihi

twinstar633

January 20th, 2008, 12:25 PM

From the pics that i've seen, GH is certainly one tower that exceeded my expectation from an aesthetics appeal standpoint. The glassy exterior looks clean and modern. The interiors (based on the initial pics shared by the diligent contributors of this forum) - are classy in a warm homey way. IMO, a great value for those who invested in the project. I hope the turnover experience will just be as smooth for the owners.

Dvorak

January 21st, 2008, 06:33 AM

ano na nangyari kay Lito?? is he back in the states now?? HOw did his turnover went?

????? What inputs from GH1 owners are you referring to? I'm still waiting for a bonafide owner to share their turnover experience. The uncomfortable silence does not bode well and causes me great concern.

gasrock

January 21st, 2008, 06:58 AM

ano na nangyari kay Lito?? is he back in the states now?? HOw did his turnover went?

Iyan nga ang hinihintay ng mga nag babasa ng thread na ito. Hindi ba kayo inimbita na makita ang kanyang unit? Napa ka ganda pa naman ng unit niyang kakaiba dahil dalawang one bedroom na pinag isa upang maging two bedroom. May mga optional features pa siyang binayaran at pina dagdag. Nakakapagtaka kung bakit hindi man lang niya ipinakita sa inyo.

Dvorak

January 21st, 2008, 07:43 AM

baka sobrang busy sa turnover nya.. at baka nag shopping na din para sa unit nya at nagahol na sa oras kaya di na nakapag pakita.. i'm sure pag nag online yun.. maraming ma i kwe kwento yun..

Iyan nga ang hinihintay ng mga nag babasa ng thread na ito. Hindi ba kayo inimbita na makita ang kanyang unit? Napa ka ganda pa naman ng unit niyang kakaiba dahil dalawang one bedroom na pinag isa upang maging two bedroom. May mga optional features pa siyang binayaran at pina dagdag. Nakakapagtaka kung bakit hindi man lang niya ipinakita sa inyo.

gasrock

January 21st, 2008, 07:57 AM

Hi guys.

I just want to update you that G&W staff told me that there will already be electricity and water in your unit during inspection and turnover.

This was dated Jan 17 2008.........

baka sobrang busy sa turnover nya.. at baka nag shopping na din para sa unit nya at nagahol na sa oras kaya di na nakapag pakita.. i'm sure pag nag online yun.. maraming ma i kwe kwento yun..

Di ba nasa thread na ang bakasyon na binigay sa kanya sa trabaho ay hanggang Jan 14 lang? Sa tingin mo kaya nag walk thru and inspection siya ng walang tubig at kuryente sa unit niya? Yung condo mo ba at iyong condo ng boss mo ay ganyan ang procedure? Normal ba iyan sa Pinas?

Dvorak

January 21st, 2008, 08:08 AM

yung dalawang condo na na walk through ko parehong may electricity and water, bale yung meter reading na lang ni check namin.

This was dated Jan 17 2008.........

Di ba nasa thread na ang bakasyon na binigay sa kanya sa trabaho ay hanggang Jan 14 lang? Sa tingin mo kaya nag walk thru and inspection siya ng walang tubig at kuryente sa unit niya? Yung condo mo ba at iyong condo ng boss mo ay ganyan ang procedure? Normal ba iyan sa Pinas?

3cr

January 21st, 2008, 08:26 AM

OO nga ano. What happened to Lito? I wonder why Lito did not get to post any feedback on his unit inspection/turnover experience?
Is he back in Cali already? Tawagan mo kaya Vic? It's just not like him to go MIA. Hopefully everything is OK and busy lang siya sa work.

TheRick

January 21st, 2008, 08:43 AM

I thought there were some GH1 unit owners that were going to visit the Philippines in December for the turnover of their units...
I'm just curious, upto now we haven't heard anything...

I've been posting since Mar 2007 and eversince everybody has been anticipating Dec 2007...
Everybody gets excited over pictures of the construction...
But now turnover time is here and it seems people have been quiet...

We've seen the exterior turned up so much better than what we hoped for...
The common area based on the last postings really look AWESOME...
The only thing we haven't seen is units and the news of people start getting their units...

Too much suspense... :lol:
Maybe its just a case of "habang palapit na ng palapit, patagal ng patagal'...
Just like your plane ride to Philippines - it seems like forever when you are waiting for your car in the airport...

laquacherra

January 21st, 2008, 08:56 AM

Sa tingin mo kaya nag walk thru and inspection siya ng walang tubig at kuryente sa unit niya? Yung condo mo ba at iyong condo ng boss mo ay ganyan ang procedure? Normal ba iyan sa Pinas?

yung dalawang condo na na walk through ko parehong may electricity and water, bale yung meter reading na lang ni check namin.

same thing with me. initial inspection pa lang may tubig at kuryente na. but it think si Robbie was delayed for a day because of power fluctuation daw...

august88boy

January 21st, 2008, 09:52 AM

nice pics from chillendawg.

i've seen Cynch's pic atop GH1 tower at her bloggsite. nice view there. wish she could take 360degress shots. :) siya lang yata me access doon aside from the big bosses. :)

thomasian

January 21st, 2008, 10:16 AM

august88boy

January 21st, 2008, 10:24 AM

thanks, thomasian.

do you have a shot of the forbestown center? i'm particularly interested in it because it is the same direct view from the B and C units of the Crescent Park residences.

3cr

January 21st, 2008, 11:01 AM

I also have a pictures of the rooftop garden, it looks like a really nice place to hangout. I'm just waiting for boss Gibson's list of pictures that I'll be posting here. Nice idea. So next time, if they get me again, I'll take a 360-degree video of the rooftop view. ^^ Curious lang is the roof top garden like a Glass House or open garden siya?
Di ba maiinit kapag Glass House? Sana open yung top man lang para hindi makulob ang init.

thomasian

January 21st, 2008, 11:14 AM

^^ The top and a side is open, while the other three sides are glass. It felt cool when I was there, medyo umaambon actually so it was a shoot na nakapayong. :nuts:

3cr

January 21st, 2008, 11:21 AM

^^ Oh that's good then because hindi siya kulob and there will be enough air circulation but not get too windy as well.
Thanks for the confirnation Aaron/Thomasian. :okay: :okay:

august88boy

January 21st, 2008, 11:23 AM

^^ The top and a side is open, while the other three sides are glass. It felt cool when I was there, medyo umaambon actually so it was a shoot na nakapayong. :nuts:

one of the sides is open? what do you mean?

me dahon na ba yung 'malunggay'? :D

thomasian

January 21st, 2008, 11:51 AM

gasrock

January 21st, 2008, 05:47 PM

yung dalawang condo na na walk through ko parehong may electricity and water, bale yung meter reading na lang ni check namin.

same thing with me. initial inspection pa lang may tubig at kuryente na. but it think si Robbie was delayed for a day because of power fluctuation daw...

Delayed for one day is understandable.....but according to @keypool Jan 17 pa lang nagkaroon ng water and electric sa GH1. Eh di ba 30 units na ang na turnover before that date? Siguro si Lito isa na doon sa 30 unit owners. All eyes and ears are waiting for a sign from the first unit owners.....sana man lang bigyan tayo ng thumbs up or thumbs down sa kanilang experience. Aba....mahirap yatang lumipad ng 15 hours at gumastos ng pera only to be disappointed in the end. Mabuti na lang at GW ang office staff na kausap ng mga unit owners kaya alam natin hindi basta patakbuhin.... at first class ang mga treatment na ma aasahan nila.

chillendawg

January 22nd, 2008, 08:07 PM

^^ Oops, I mean three sides is glass, while the other one, the side facing the core of the tower, is not.

LOL. Walang malunggay dun. I assure you wala kasi merong kaming apat na malunggay trees sa bakuran so I should know how it looks like. :D

Asan na yung interior pics of GH1? ang tagal, the more we wait, the more it takes forever to come out? hay suspense, suspense! ganun talaga pag unit owner ka sa mga future projects noh? please post it na...

gasrock

January 22nd, 2008, 09:25 PM

Asan na yung interior pics of GH1? ang tagal, the more we wait, the more it takes forever to come out? hay suspense, suspense! ganun talaga pag unit owner ka sa mga future projects noh? please post it na...

Oo nga ano? Bakit walang interior pics ng mga na turnover na units........what happened to the photo shoot? Nasaan na si StephenDavid na mag design ng unit ng client niya.....bakit wala din ma share na pics? What is the big mystery......parang may sekretong nangyayari!
Dapat tumatalon sa excitement ang thread na ito....sankatutak na pics dapat ang share ng mga unit owners. But instead we are talking about stupid malunggays.........very informative!

chillendawg

January 23rd, 2008, 12:03 AM

Oo nga ano? Bakit walang interior pics ng mga na turnover na units........what happened to the photo shoot? Nasaan na si StephenDavid na mag design ng unit ng client niya.....bakit wala din ma share na pics? What is the big mystery......parang may sekretong nangyayari!
Dapat tumatalon sa excitement ang thread na ito....sankatutak na pics dapat ang share ng mga unit owners. But instead we are talking about stupid malunggays.........very informative!

I'm concern kasi I don't want the same thing happening to me when Sapphire Res time for turnover. If you have interior photos, please do share. We need to know if you guys are having issues, we need to fix whatever is the problem. We should make a group effort to rectify the problem, if there's any, don't you guys think so? Thank you!

stephenpdavid

January 23rd, 2008, 01:23 AM

Oo nga ano? Bakit walang interior pics ng mga na turnover na units........what happened to the photo shoot? Nasaan na si StephenDavid na mag design ng unit ng client niya.....bakit wala din ma share na pics? What is the big mystery......parang may sekretong nangyayari!
Dapat tumatalon sa excitement ang thread na ito....sankatutak na pics dapat ang share ng mga unit owners. But instead we are talking about stupid malunggays.........very informative!

^^Hold your horses! Relax!!! hehehe...Anyways, My completion date for the project will be on Feb. 25. I have to ask my client first if I can post the interior pics of their unit. That's why I only posted the GH1 common facilities on this thread. :)

Just to give you an update...when I went there for an ocular visit last Jan. 17, the unit of my client was still in progress. Though the turn-over date of the latter will be on Feb. 11, the laborers were doing the T&Bs, Kitchen & other minor works.

Don't worry...there are no anomalies, mysteries or whatsoever that will ruin the reputation of G&W. :)

august88boy

January 23rd, 2008, 05:49 AM

TheRick

January 23rd, 2008, 06:29 AM

gasrock

January 23rd, 2008, 06:43 AM

^^Hold your horses! Relax!!! hehehe...Anyways, My completion date for the project will be on Feb. 25. I have to ask my client first if I can post the interior pics of their unit. That's why I only posted the GH1 common facilities on this thread. :)

Just to give you an update...when I went there for an ocular visit last Jan. 17, the unit of my client was still in progress. Though, the turn-over date of the latter will be on Feb. 11. The laborers are doing the T&Bs, Kitchen & other minor works.
Don't worry...there are no anomalies, mysteries or whatsoever that will ruin the reputation of G&W. :)

Are you willing to put your reputation and personal integrity on the line that there are no anomalies going on? This is a high profile thread due to the turnover date of December 2007. Some of the eyes looking right now belong to future owners of the subsequent GW projects and a few of them will be looking for an interior decorator that they can TRUST. Perhaps we differ on our understanding of the word "anomaly" and it is nothing more than semantics. But would you at least agree with me that something is out of the ordinary when a project with a turnover date of December 2007 did not have their utilities turned on until Jan 17, that on this same date the unit of your client is still a work in progress with laborers doing the bath and toilet,kitchen and other minor works as verified by your own eyes. Considering that your client's unit is a model unit finish and they are still installing toilet bath and kitchen on Jan 17, would you at least agree that this project is running a bit late? Remember, many of these future unit owners are from outside the country and they will have to trust you to give them solid, accurate and impartial information.
So I ask again, would you say there is something out of the ordinary going on or would you tell your clients to hold their horses and relax?

gasrock

January 23rd, 2008, 06:52 AM

poor malunggay :D napagdiskitahan ni gasrock. :lol:
gasrock, saan ka ba me unit, GH2 or sapphires?

wait na lang tayo, cgurado thomasian will come up with exciting pics.
maybe he's just waiting for Gibs to give the final nod to it.

Hindi ko naman napag diskitahan ang malunggay, kaya lang kapag may malaking halagang pera ang nakataya sa la mesa siyempre kailangan malinis at maliwanag ang mga informasyon na natatanggap at hindi kung ano anong malunggay ang naka ka gulo sa usapan. Hindi ito laro or katatawanan, seryosong pera ang nakataya kaya dapat seryosong usapan. May ibang pagkakataon na puwedeng mag biruan at mag tawanan.....pero sa mga nangyayari at kawalan ng explanasyon tungkol sa thread na ito, hindi tayo dapat ma out of topic at mawalan ng focus sa kung ano ang importante. Iyan lang naman ang sa akin.

Dvorak

January 23rd, 2008, 06:56 AM

stephenpdavid

January 23rd, 2008, 07:01 AM

Are you willing to put your reputation and personal integrity on the line that there are no anomalies going on? This is a high profile thread due to the turnover date of December 2007. Some of the eyes looking right now belong to future owners of the subsequent GW projects and a few of them will be looking for an interior decorator that they can TRUST. Perhaps we differ on our understanding of the word "anomaly" and it is nothing more than semantics. But would you at least agree with me that something is out of the ordinary when a project with a turnover date of December 2007 did not have their utilities turned on until Jan 17, that on this same date the unit of your client is still a work in progress with laborers doing the bath and toilet,kitchen and other minor works as verified by your own eyes. Considering that your client's unit is a model unit finish and they are still installing toilet bath and kitchen on Jan 17, would you at least agree that this project is running a bit late? Remember, many of these future unit owners are from outside the country and they will have to trust you to give them solid, accurate and impartial information.
So I ask again, would you say there is something out of the ordinary going on or would you tell your clients to hold their horses and relax?

Gasrock, my client told me that the turn-over date of their unit will be on Feb. 11. I'm more concern to my client rather than anything else. I already saw the unit and I can see to it that the unit will be finish on the given date.

Business reputation & personal integrity are important that's why I show my works in this forum. People don't know me from Adam. Some of them, I entertain by answering their queries then after a few weeks/month, they will ask for my professional services.

Cheers! :)

gasrock

January 23rd, 2008, 07:15 AM

I am not familiar with timelines as far as unit turnover is concerned.

I remember that GH1's official turnover is Dec 2007... So what's the realistic expectations for units to be turned over...
Does that mean mag start pa lang turnover for some units only (like lower floors)... or does it mean na Dec 2007 all units can be turned over?

I wonder those GH1 owners who got "Ready to Receive" units, How different is their turnover process?

Rick, opinion ko lang if you don't mind. It does not matter what timeline is being followed whether lower floors first or "ready to receive finish" first. Once a client is scheduled for a walkthru the unit itself should be presented in as close to the agreed condition as humanly possible. Of course the intent of the walk thru is to find the hard to see defects like scratches on the floor or a crack in the bathroom tiles or a misaligned window.....you know, minor things. But if workers are still working on toilets and bathrooms or kitchen, then that unit should not be scheduled for a walkthru. There is nothing wrong with moving dates back a few weeks or even two or three months....that is in the contract. But what about those poor 30 unit owners that got scheduled prematurely, don't you think that they got injured and and should be made whole again? Or is it enough that they be told to come back again in such a such a date and they will be given a new walkthru date? What if they travelled a long distance and used up what little vacation days they have? What if it happened to one of us? How about the GH2, Sapphire, Blue Sapphire and Crescent unit owners, would they simply shrug their shoulders and continue to sing praises about GW while they occupy their time discussing malunggay or some other nonsense?
Rick, I'm just verbalizing what comes to mind.

august88boy

January 23rd, 2008, 07:31 AM

Hindi ko naman napag diskitahan ang malunggay, kaya lang kapag may malaking halagang pera ang nakataya sa la mesa siyempre kailangan malinis at maliwanag ang mga informasyon na natatanggap at hindi kung ano anong malunggay ang naka ka gulo sa usapan. Hindi ito laro or katatawanan, seryosong pera ang nakataya kaya dapat seryosong usapan. May ibang pagkakataon na puwedeng mag biruan at mag tawanan.....pero sa mga nangyayari at kawalan ng explanasyon tungkol sa thread na ito, hindi tayo dapat ma out of topic at mawalan ng focus sa kung ano ang importante. Iyan lang naman ang sa akin.

wow, galit na si gasrock, cool ka lang.
minor delay problems happen all the time.
i know Gibs is going to give clarifications one of these days.

swerte ka nga at tapos na ang GH1, finishing na lang.
kami nga sa CPR hindi pa nag-groundbreaking man lang.
but we're more than confident that G&W will be doing their best to deliver CPR on time.

dunamis

January 23rd, 2008, 07:33 AM

Words are very important. Especially to customers. I agree with Gasrock. If it ever happened to me that I receive a haphazard job I would also sound the alarm.

I hope it becomes a reminder to developers to treat the customers with respect. Especially with regards to people who respect our time and words, these are very precious and rare.

Dapat lang siguro if ever there will be delays, customers should be given at least 3 months notice of delay. Mahirap kasi pag nasa abroad ka pa galing at hihingi ka pa ng leave sa boss mo. Pag nag change na ng schedule pwedeng mag escalate yung cost because of flight change, lodging and accomodations, etc. Kaya maiininit ang ulo. Madali kasing sabihin na magtiis kung nandito lang sa Manila. Pero papano kung nasa abroad ka and you're sacrificing so much to give this unit to your family. Only to find out that the schedule was not met or the quality was not kept.

gasrock

January 23rd, 2008, 07:35 AM

ang puso mo Vic! hehehhee

easy ka lang.. Dec. 2007 ang turnover date.. Jan. 2008 pa lang.. so 1 month pa lang nakakalipas.. I'm sure marami na silang na turn over.. don pa lang dapat ka nang matuwa.. kasi sabi nila Dec. 2007 at nagawa naman nila.. yung ibang condo nga.. ilang months na nakalipas ni isang unit wala pang na tu turn over..

alam ko talagang excited na kayo.. pero give it a couple more weeks.. i'm sure marami ring pictures ang lalabas.. and based sa previous projects nang GW.. i'm sure mas maganda ang mga units dito sa GH1..

Pareng Erwin, madaling magsabing mag hintay lang ng a couple of weeks kung local ka lang at may tinitirahan diyan. Gaya ng sabi ko kay Rick, paano naman ang mga tiga ibang bansa na naglakbay ng malayo tapos pababalikin mo lang ulit? Hindi naman importante ang date na Dec.2007, mas importante eh kung kailan talaga ready ang lahat ng units. Walang nagdududa na maganda talaga ang GW na gumawa at mag design......ang mga unit owners ang pinaka malakas kumanta ng praises about GW at nilagay nila ang pinaghirapang pera nila sa mga projects ng GW kaya walang issue kung maganda nga or hindi.....siguradong maganda. Kaya lang sana bigyan ng konsiderasyon ang mga nasa ibang bansa para hindi masayang ang kanilang oras at pamasahe (airfare hindi massage) at huwag mag schedule ng walkthru kung hindi pa talagang handa ang unit. At siyempre tao lang tayong lahat at maaring magkamali, pero sana iyong mga napinsala at na inkombenyente sa hindi pa handang pag walkthru......sana naman bigyan sila nag pampalubag loob maski kaunti at ng mabawasan ang kanilang pinsala at inkombenyente.

Gasrock, my client told me that the turn-over date of their unit will be on Feb. 11. I'm more concern to my client rather than anything else. I already saw the unit and I can see to it that the unit will be finish on the given date.

Business reputation & personal integrity are important that's why I show my works in this forum. People don't know me from Adam. Some of them, I entertain by answering their queries then after a few weeks/month, they will ask for my professional services.

Cheers! :)
Stephen, how was the meeting with Terence Yu of GW? Did he hire your services? Good luck and I hope you get your big break.

stephenpdavid

January 23rd, 2008, 07:45 AM

Stephen, how was the meeting with Terence Yu of GW? Did he hire your services? Good luck and I hope you get your big break.

^^Many thanks, gasrock. :)

Ok naman yung meeting. I presented my works. Gusto malaman ni Daniel Terence kung ako talaga ang gumawa ng mga projects ko. He just want to be sure. So, I showed him the raw files like 3ds max, 3D walkthrough wireframes, etc.

He told me that he will ask my services to do 3D walkthroughs of G&W projects like GH1, Blue Sapphire, etc. for company portfolio purposes.

gasrock

January 23rd, 2008, 07:55 AM

wow, galit na si gasrock, cool ka lang.
minor delay problems happen all the time.
i know Gibs is going to give clarifications one of these days.

swerte ka nga at tapos na ang GH1, finishing na lang.
kami nga sa CPR hindi pa nag-groundbreaking man lang.
but we're more than confident that G&W will be doing their best to deliver CPR on time.
Hindi naman ako galit.....malumanay nga ang mga salita ko eh. I agree with you that delays are not a problem. Ang hindi ko lang maintindihan eh paano mo nasabing masuwerte at tapos na ang GH1 kung may finishing pang kailangan tapusin. Di bale kung finishing sa outside common areas, ok lang iyon. Paano kung finishing ng unit mo habang ginagawa ang walkthru mo? Ikaw ang ma swerte at hindi ang GH1 owners dahil matagal pa ang turnover mo at sa awa ng diyos ay hindi mo sapitin ang pinag daanan ng ibang GH1 owners. Kaya ko din nililiwanag ang mga hindi ka nasa nasang pangyayari sa GH1 ay para hindi ko din pag daanan ang ganitong klaseng turnover pag dating ng GH2. Pero kung hindi natin aaminin na may problema eh di walang leksyon na natutunan at paulit ulit na lang ang ganitong turnover.

Words are very important. Especially to customers. I agree with Gasrock. If it ever happened to me that I receive a haphazard job I would also sound the alarm.

I hope it becomes a reminder to developers to treat the customers with respect. Especially with regards to people who respect our time and words, these are very precious and rare.

Dapat lang siguro if ever there will be delays, customers should be given at least 3 months notice of delay. Mahirap kasi pag nasa abroad ka pa galing at hihingi ka pa ng leave sa boss mo. Pag nag change na ng schedule pwedeng mag escalate yung cost because of flight change, lodging and accomodations, etc. Kaya maiininit ang ulo. Madali kasing sabihin na magtiis kung nandito lang sa Manila. Pero papano kung nasa abroad ka and you're sacrificing so much to give this unit to your family. Only to find out that the schedule was not met or the quality was not kept.

To be fair to GW, let us not talk about quality not being met until we get solid info from the unit owners themselves. We all bought GW units because we all believe in GW quality. But the schedule seems out of character for GW. O di ba hindi naman ako galit?

gasrock

January 23rd, 2008, 07:58 AM

^^Many thanks, gasrock. :)

Ok naman yung meeting. I presented my works. Gusto malaman ni Daniel Terence kung ako talaga ang gumawa ng mga projects ko. He just want to be sure. So, I showed him the raw files like 3ds max, 3D walkthrough wireframes, etc.

He told me that he will ask my services to do 3D walkthroughs of G&W projects like GH1, Blue Sapphire, etc. for company portfolio purposes.
Mabuti na lang hindi ka pina drawing sa harap niya to prove na ikaw nga ang gumawa ng samples mo. :lol: Good for you, and Congratulations!!!

hyperfocal

January 23rd, 2008, 08:21 AM

3cr

January 23rd, 2008, 08:30 AM

As a fellow FilAm (and for those based abroad), I can fully understand where Gasrock is coming from. I will be so pissed if I took time-off work, bought expensive airline ticket, and came to the Philippines (13 hour or so flight) to do a walk-thru only to find out on inspection day that the unit I am to inspect is not really ready for inspection. How can you really inspect something that is not ready for inspection di ba? Eh di lahat ng hindi pa gawa sa unit rejected na. What gives? Buti ng mabuti kung magagawa ang lahat ng mga yan before the investor has to go back to the US or whatever country he/she has to go back to. I think for those of us based abroad, we will perfectly understand if there is reasonable delay in the turnover of the unit as long as it is communicated in a timely manner so that we don't end up having to waste time and money hard earned especially since we've already spent a serious amount of money investing/buying the unit. Aba hindi biro-biro ito kanya konting considerasyon lamang sana...Communication is key.

It does not matter what timeline is being followed whether lower floors first or "ready to receive finish" first. Once a client is scheduled for a walkthru the unit itself should be presented in as close to the agreed condition as humanly possible. Of course the intent of the walk thru is to find the hard to see defects like scratches on the floor or a crack in the bathroom tiles or a misaligned window.....you know, minor things. But if workers are still working on toilets and bathrooms or kitchen, then that unit should not be scheduled for a walkthru. There is nothing wrong with moving dates back a few weeks or even two or three months....that is in the contract. But what about those poor 30 unit owners that got scheduled prematurely, don't you think that they got injured and and should be made whole again? Or is it enough that they be told to come back again in such a such a date and they will be given a new walkthru date? What if they travelled a long distance and used up what little vacation days they have? What if it happened to one of us? How about the GH2, Sapphire, Blue Sapphire and Crescent unit owners, would they simply shrug their shoulders and continue to sing praises about GW while they occupy their time discussing malunggay or some other nonsense? I'm just verbalizing what comes to mind.

Madaling magsabing mag hintay lang ng a couple of weeks kung local ka lang at may tinitirahan diyan. Gaya ng sabi ko kay Rick, paano naman ang mga tiga ibang bansa na naglakbay ng malayo tapos pababalikin mo lang ulit? Hindi naman importante ang date na Dec.2007, mas importante eh kung kailan talaga ready ang lahat ng units. Walang nagdududa na maganda talaga ang GW na gumawa at mag design......ang mga unit owners ang pinaka malakas kumanta ng praises about GW at nilagay nila ang pinaghirapang pera nila sa mga projects ng GW kaya walang issue kung maganda nga or hindi.....siguradong maganda. Kaya lang sana bigyan ng konsiderasyon ang mga nasa ibang bansa para hindi masayang ang kanilang oras at pamasahe (airfare hindi massage) at huwag mag schedule ng walkthru kung hindi pa talagang handa ang unit. At siyempre tao lang tayong lahat at maaring magkamali, pero sana iyong mga napinsala at na inkombenyente sa hindi pa handang pag walkthru......sana naman bigyan sila nag pampalubag loob maski kaunti at ng mabawasan ang kanilang pinsala at inkombenyente.

gasrock

January 23rd, 2008, 09:37 AM

Mawalang galang na lang po.... makikishare lang nang opinion. :)

Hi neighbor Vic, just like you, I am also a GH2 unit owner. And just like most of us here, I am also waiting for any kind of feedback from GH1 owners on their turn-over. For us who are outside the country, their valuable feedback will give us GH2 and other G&W project owners who are abroad a better insight particularly on when we should plan our trip to Manila. I for one have already made my flight reservation for December (yup, this early, since it’s just so difficult to get good flights during the peak season) in anticipation of a December walk-through and/or turn-over. I do share your concerns but my take on this is until a legit unit owner comes out in the open and complains point blank that there are anomalies, problems and/or issues on his/her walk-thru and/or turn-over process, I’ll refrain from making speculations and what-if scenarios. G&W has a proven track record and their reputation speaks for themselves, I am sure most of us will agree to that. Gibson has been nothing but very supportive to this forum. He is second to none when it comes to transparency and sharing information that we can never get from anyone. I guess it is just fair that we give G&W a chance to air their side. Iniisip ko na lang, Gibson would rather spend muna his time and focus on all the walk-thrus.

In the meantime, I’ll try to relax and not let the anticipation get the better of me. I’ll seriously start worrying when there is a solid reason for me to do that.

Peace!
Hyperfocal, I do agree with what you have stated 100%. Like you, I have been the biggest supporter of GW and I'm very appreciative of Gibson's participation in a lot of these threads. Being a unit owner of GH2, I have had several dealings with him and he has been very professional and honest in his demeanor. Which is the more surprising that there is this scheduling fiasco.....it is so unexpected of a GW project. I have been relaxed and worry free just like some of the GH1 owners, warm and secure in the knowledge that we have done our due diligence in choosing our project developer. Let me assure you that I am not merely blowing smoke up anybody's ass and I surely don't see mountain where there is a molehill. What bothers me is the absence of unit owners......don't you ever wonder about this? I am merely interested in making sure that there are no procedural or administrative shortcomings in the GW organization that would come back and haunt us GH2 owners when it comes time for our turnover.
I have no wish nor plans to pre-emp what GH unit owners would be willing to share......but let me make it clear that I do not indulge in speculations nor play the what-if games. My time is more valuable than that. I welcome your input and wish I could share more but I am afraid events behind the scenes continue on a downward spiral even as we speak. Lines of communication are down.

hyperfocal

January 23rd, 2008, 11:43 AM

^^
Point well taken gasrock. I do understand where you are coming from. I agree, the absence of GH1 owner's feedback could be a red flag. Gibson being MIA (missing in action) specially now could be a red flag. BUT personally, until I see a legit complaint from a legit GH1 owner, I'll not waste my time worrying. :)

Now, if and ever somebody comes forward and makes a valid claim on scheduling goof-up or unmet commitments, ibang usapan na yun.

Dvorak

January 23rd, 2008, 11:48 AM

tama! kaya wag masyadong tense.. sabi nga nila.. relak lang.. sooner or later may mag re report na rin dito..

chillendawg

January 23rd, 2008, 05:24 PM

Hyperfocal, I do agree with what you have stated 100%. Like you, I have been the biggest supporter of GW and I'm very appreciative of Gibson's participation in a lot of these threads. Being a unit owner of GH2, I have had several dealings with him and he has been very professional and honest in his demeanor. Which is the more surprising that there is this scheduling fiasco.....it is so unexpected of a GW project. I have been relaxed and worry free just like some of the GH1 owners, warm and secure in the knowledge that we have done our due diligence in choosing our project developer. Let me assure you that I am not merely blowing smoke up anybody's ass and I surely don't see mountain where there is a molehill. What bothers me is the absence of unit owners......don't you ever wonder about this? I am merely interested in making sure that there are no procedural or administrative shortcomings in the GW organization that would come back and haunt us GH2 owners when it comes time for our turnover.
I have no wish nor plans to pre-emp what GH unit owners would be willing to share......but let me make it clear that I do not indulge in speculations nor play the what-if games. My time is more valuable than that. I welcome your input and wish I could share more but I am afraid events behind the scenes continue on a downward spiral even as we speak. Lines of communication are down.

I love Gasrock. I couldn't have said it better. You hit it right on the head!

As for Hyperfocal, what if there is a legit complaint and he or she has decided not come forward with it because of personal reasons? would you still wait and do nothing? As investors, it is our right to demand for answers to our concerns.

gasrock

January 23rd, 2008, 05:35 PM

tama! kaya wag masyadong tense.. sabi nga nila.. relak lang.. sooner or later may mag re report na rin dito..
That's what the Jews told one another up to the point of their boarding the trains.....relax and just do as you're told and we will be ok.
Pag hindi nagbago ang pag trato sa mga ibang unit owners ng GH1 ay talagang mayroon mag re report. But it's not too late to fix this mess and it will not take much to do the right thing. Aminin na may problema, huwag mag palusot.....bigyan ng kaunting kasiyahan ang napinsala......at siguraduhing hindi mauulit ang nangyari at tapos na ang problema. Hindi naman mahirap gawin ito di ba?

ApoLakay

January 23rd, 2008, 09:55 PM

Basta ako when the time comes for inspections or walkthroughs...outsource ko na lang sa favorite kung agent para di na ko umuwi at maunsyami lang...hehe. Peace!

AkafloresToo

January 23rd, 2008, 11:32 PM

chillendawg

January 24th, 2008, 12:34 AM

I just want to see the interior of GH1, please someone mag post na kayo...hihihihi!!!!

gasrock

January 24th, 2008, 01:20 AM

I just want to see the interior of GH1, please someone mag post na kayo...hihihihi!!!!
I wouldn't hold my breath before February......that seems to be the most common time frame being mentioned in this thread and from the private emails that I have received from owners that I have not even met. Again, two months off the promised date is not a big deal and is well within the contract terms of plus or minus three months. But the damage done by sticking to the December 2007 date instead of moving it to February is somehow foolish and unnecessary. But in the meantime, sorry na lang to those who made plans for an earlier walkthru and wasted their time and effort.....and that is all they will get.....a sincere sorry lang.

Dvorak

January 24th, 2008, 02:13 AM

hmmm so you think Lito went back to the US without seeing his unit? wag naman sana.. sayang yung effort..

I wouldn't hold my breath before February......that seems to be the most common time frame being mentioned in this thread and from the private emails that I have received from owners that I have not even met. Again, two months off the promised date is not a big deal and is well within the contract terms of plus or minus three months. But the damage done by sticking to the December 2007 date instead of moving it to February is somehow foolish and unnecessary. But in the meantime, sorry na lang to those who made plans for an earlier walkthru and wasted their time and effort.....and that is all they will get.....a sincere sorry lang.

Gibson@G&W

January 24th, 2008, 04:08 AM

Hi guys.

I just want to update you that G&W staff told me that there will already be electricity and water in your unit during inspection and turnover.

Hello, it was nice to meet you the other day! Sorry its been a while since I have logged on and made any comments here. Things have been very busy. I have just approved the pictures of Thomasian...and have been trying to call to get them uploaded....so PAGING THOMASIAN...please call Ryan at our office for the list of pictures to be uploaded.

Regarding electricity, may I know who gave you this information, as this is incorrect. Meralco has been installed in the building since early December...same with the Water. The condo corp has borrowed money from G&W to advance all the meter deposits and the deposits required for water, and these amounts will be reimbursed during turnover.

All Turnover will have power and water.

Thank you!

thomasian

January 24th, 2008, 04:56 AM

^^ Thanks, I"m talking with sir Ryan right now. Ang cute nung music after they placed me on-hold... "It's a world of laughter, a world of tears. It's a world of hopes, and a world of fears. There's so much that we share, that it's time we're aware. It's a small world after all.... There is just one moon, and one golden sun. And a smile means friendship to ev'ryone. Though the mountains divide, and the oceans are wide, it's a small world after all... It's a small world after all. It's a small world after all. It's a small, small, world." Naalala ko nung kinder ako after hearing the song. :D

JLemmor

January 24th, 2008, 05:01 AM

ApoLakay, ang problema sa plano mo is that your agent might not be as critical as you since hindi naman siya ang may ari ng unit, plus he already got his commission. I hope once it is time for you to see your condo personally, hindi ka mabibigla sa mga problema na pinalusot ng agent mo.

Not with this agent...proven na siya. Everybody knows her here in G&W projects so 100% sure ako. Even Gibs can't say no to her complaints hehe.

Gibson@G&W

January 24th, 2008, 05:13 AM

I wouldn't hold my breath before February......that seems to be the most common time frame being mentioned in this thread and from the private emails that I have received from owners that I have not even met. Again, two months off the promised date is not a big deal and is well within the contract terms of plus or minus three months. But the damage done by sticking to the December 2007 date instead of moving it to February is somehow foolish and unnecessary. But in the meantime, sorry na lang to those who made plans for an earlier walkthru and wasted their time and effort.....and that is all they will get.....a sincere sorry lang.

Hello Gasrock, and everyone on this thread. Like mentioned before, I have been quite busy with turnover of the units, the property management issues and many other issues that are part of turnover. I would like to assure everyone that my non-presence here in the thread is not a sign of any problems we may be having, but as a result of having to focus on every single detail of the turnover process.

The turover of GH1 is not as perfect as expected...we have zero issued with RRF option units, and these have been turnedover properly. Again, as I said before, and to end all speculations, there is power and water in the units.

There is a slight delay on the MUF option units which to say the least caught me unaware.

The issue lies in the fact that many schedules to come to manila have to be done 3 months of more...the letter of turnover to be sent to unit owners are send 2 months prior...but at the same time, applying the MUF option from an RRF unit is done within 2 months...and notice of delays only came exactly on the first week of January.

Like you have been hinting all along, there were unit owners that came from the USA, and have been met with an MUF unit that is not yet ready for walk through....because of the earlier mentioned December performance. At the time that we were informed about this, many unit owners who have been already scheduled to visit here, have already made their plans, have been scheduled with the property managers, or are already here in Manila!

This is not to say that we are positioned to deny this issue...this is not our style, and has never been and never will be a strategy that we will use. Be assured that for all unit owners that were affected by this, we have discussed with them in person, face to face, and have given them the assistance that they deserve. It is an isolated issue with unit owners that are based abroad and have selected the MUF option.

To future unit owners: We have been regularly communicating that the turnover IS a process. It is not an event that can be done on a single day...and since there are over 200 units in one building, not all units will always have the same level of ready-ness at any given time.

The assurance we give and will always give is that the unit will be ready within +/- 3 months from the time of committment, and in the ready-ness that is expected. And this remains in GH1 units, that all units will be done and ready within +/- 3 months of the December 2007 committment.

The difficulty lies in the scheduling of the visit here in Manila. We aks for your trust and understanding from our staff when they recommend a certain turnover schedule.

There are certain things that can be foreseeable as early a 1 year before the committed date of completion...but there are also certain things that cannot be discovered until the last 2 months of construction.

If you have to make travel plans, more than 1 month ahead of schedule, I suggest to tentatively make it 2 months after the committed turnover date.

If you abosolutely insist that you need to see your unit on the exact date of turnover This must be communicated to us 8 months prior to the target date, and must be acknowledged and approved by our project managers. (in GH1 we have a few MUF units that have been completed and also furnished by the interior design division, as contracted by the unit owners in the USA through e-mail only...and now that they are here, they were greeted with a unit that is fully finished and furnished and ready for occupancy - this is the one unit that I was showing realtormanila-cynch when Thomasian-Aaron was taking photos of the building)

Furthermore, we have already agreed to announce the turnover of MUF option units to be 2 months AFTER the RRF unit owners for all future projects. This was the system that was used back in Kensington Place, and has not caused any problems in the past.

I thank everyone for their continued support and trust! Rest assured, we have done this before and are very professional in dealing with all the challenges associate with it. Each unit owner will be treated with the professionalism that they expect...and units will be turned over on schedule and in the form that is expected!

Sincerely,

Gibson Yu

JLemmor

January 24th, 2008, 05:20 AM

^^:applause:

Thanks Gibs for the clarifications.

gasrock

January 24th, 2008, 05:21 AM

Gibson@G&W

January 24th, 2008, 05:21 AM

Not with this agent...proven na siya. Everybody knows her here in G&W projects so 100% sure ako. Even Gibs can't say no to her complaints hehe.

I cannot put empahsis on this more...if a broker is professional in dealing with us, it gives us more of an opportunity to be professional with them and their client.

AkafloresToo Although there are brokers who are like this, we cannot generalize to say that all brokers will leave once their commission has been received. On the contracty, these days, I meet more legitimate and professional brokers, than unprofessional ones. We also try to elimite association with non-pro brokers, becase at the end of the day, if the brokers leave with unfulfilled promises, the client is still our client, and we will have to be the one to deal with this issue.

Gibson@G&W

January 24th, 2008, 05:24 AM

Gibs, are you saying that the first 30 owners that did their walkthru in mid Decemberto mid January had power and water in their units when they did their inspection?

Yes, there is power and water in all units starting early December...so all unit owners who did their walk-through past that date, should have power and water in their unit!

We have disbursed over Php 8,000,000 in meter deposits advances for all the units in the tower, and meralco has delivered their transformer in the building as well, to provide for electricity.

If you have any information that I might not be aware of, I would like to know, as I would like to address it in the soonest possible time.

Thank you!

3cr

January 24th, 2008, 05:36 AM

hmmm so you think Lito went back to the US without seeing his unit? wag naman sana.. sayang yung effort..

^^ Yup in all probability his was not ready to be inspected during the time he was here based on Gibs' post. His is one of those MUF units Gibs was talking about eh. He must have been disappointed which was probably why he has not posted as of yet. Excited pa naman siya to finally see his unit.

gasrock

January 24th, 2008, 05:37 AM

Furthermore, we have already agreed to announce the turnover of MUF option units to be 2 months AFTER the RRF unit owners for all future projects. This was the system that was used back in Kensington Place, and has not caused any problems in the past.

Sincerely,

Gibson Yu

Gibs, this would be very helpful for all future owners and a step in the right direction.....too bad early GH1 owners got caught by surprise and unaware of this system used in Kensington but not in GH1.
Just a question....I was told that Kensington was all RRF units and MUF was not offered at that time, is this bad info?

gasrock

January 24th, 2008, 05:43 AM

I cannot put empahsis on this more...if a broker is professional in dealing with us, it gives us more of an opportunity to be professional with them and their client.

AkafloresToo Although there are brokers who are like this, we cannot generalize to say that all brokers will leave once their commission has been received. On the contracty, these days, I meet more legitimate and professional brokers, than unprofessional ones. We also try to elimite association with non-pro brokers, becase at the end of the day, if the brokers leave with unfulfilled promises, the client is still our client, and we will have to be the one to deal with this issue.

What about people directly employed by G&W to sell to buyers, do you hold them up to these high standards too?

Gibson@G&W

January 24th, 2008, 06:17 AM

Gibs, this would be very helpful for all future owners and a step in the right direction.....too bad early GH1 owners got caught by surprise and unaware of this system used in Kensington but not in GH1.
Just a question....I was told that Kensington was all RRF units and MUF was not offered at that time, is this bad info?

Yes, this is bad info...there have been MUF units in Kensington before...but only very few unit owners availed it.

Penhurst did not have MUF option. The system back in Penhurst was that all units were delivered RRF, and there was a model unit on the 2nd floor with a "Finishing Package"...the finishing package is an option that a unit owner can get only during the turnover of the unit. This will probably not work, as foreign unit owners will have to come back again in 6-8 weeks time to re-inspect thir finishing package.

Gibson@G&W

January 24th, 2008, 06:19 AM

What about people directly employed by G&W to sell to buyers, do you hold them up to these high standards too?

G&W employees are held on the same high standards, but are monitored even closer. I am the direct superior of G&W staff involved in marketing and have full control and responsibilty for their actions.

satchel

January 24th, 2008, 06:31 AM

Yes, this is bad info...there have been MUF units in Kensington before...but only very few unit owners availed it.

Penhurst did not have MUF option. The system back in Penhurst was that all units were delivered RRF, and there was a model unit on the 2nd floor with a "Finishing Package"...the finishing package is an option that a unit owner can get only during the turnover of the unit. This will probably not work, as foreign unit owners will have to come back again in 6-8 weeks time to re-inspect thir finishing package.

hi, gibson. am just curious when the MUF package was offered during the kensington contruction period. i bought my unit feb2004 and it wasn't offered to me eh. am thinking maybe this feature was conceptualized later on during the project's timetable. pero am thinking sana na-i-offer rin sa akin. maybe i fell through the cracks of your client database.

i guess it turned out for the best rin since i was able to customize my space on my own.

constructive criticism lang naman. sana lang all clients are accorded the same info. i hope you don't mind.

Gibson@G&W

January 24th, 2008, 06:39 AM

hi, gibson. am just curious when the MUF package was offered during the kensington contruction period. i bought my unit feb2004 and it wasn't offered to me eh. am thinking maybe this feature was conceptualized later on during the project's timetable. pero am thinking sana na-i-offer rin sa akin. maybe i fell through the cracks of your client database.

i guess it turned out for the best rin since i was able to customize my space on my own.

constructive criticism lang naman. sana lang all clients are accorded the same info. i hope you don't mind.

Hello...yes I understand exactly what you have mentioned.

Unlike in GH1 and projects after that which had 2 lists for RRF and MUF, in Kensington, it started out as a verbal offer by mentioning the cost per sqm.

It came as a result of people who did not accept our philiosphy of RRF and customization of units. There is a possiblity that the person assisting you failed to mention that the option was available, not knowing that you might have been interested in such an offer. At that time we used the unit in Penhurst as the sample for the materials for the MUF option.

I cannot recall exactly when, but it was a few months after the inital release of info of Kensington that we really had the MUF package on paper.

gasrock

January 24th, 2008, 07:33 AM

There is a slight delay on the MUF option units which to say the least caught me unaware.

The issue lies in the fact that many schedules to come to manila have to be done 3 months of more...the letter of turnover to be sent to unit owners are send 2 months prior...but at the same time, applying the MUF option from an RRF unit is done within 2 months...and notice of delays only came exactly on the first week of January.

Like you have been hinting all along, there were unit owners that came from the USA, and have been met with an MUF unit that is not yet ready for walk through....because of the earlier mentioned December performance. At the time that we were informed about this, many unit owners who have been already scheduled to visit here, have already made their plans, have been scheduled with the property managers, or are already here in Manila!

This is not to say that we are positioned to deny this issue...this is not our style, and has never been and never will be a strategy that we will use. Be assured that for all unit owners that were affected by this, we have discussed with them in person, face to face, and have given them the assistance that they deserve. It is an isolated issue with unit owners that are based abroad and have selected the MUF option.

Sincerely,

Gibson Yu

It is very reassuring that you take responsibility for any and all issues that arise in the projects past and future. But what form of assistance has been offered to those owners that have been affected by this unfortunate issue? And secondly, is this assistance limited to GH1 unit owners or does it extend to unit owners of other G&W projects adversely affected by this issue? As part of my vacation plans I was supposed to stay in one of the units in GH1, but because of this delay I am still without an alternate place to stay. Is your generous offer of a Kensington unit still available or was this form of assistance taken off the table?

Gibson@G&W

January 24th, 2008, 07:50 AM

It is very reassuring that you take responsibility for any and all issues that arise in the projects past and future. But what form of assistance has been offered to those owners that have been affected by this unfortunate issue? And secondly, is this assistance limited to GH1 unit owners or does it extend to unit owners of other G&W projects adversely affected by this issue? As part of my vacation plans I was supposed to stay in one of the units in GH1, but because of this delay I am still without an alternate place to stay. Is your generous offer of a Kensington unit still available or was this form of assistance taken off the table?

The assistance offered is what is fair for the issue at hand, and depends on how the unit owner was affected. Should any such situation exist in future projects, we would not hesitate to offer the same form of assistance.

The Kensington unit is available for lease, should you need a place to stay. It is currently being leased by a GH1 unit owner who is in the process of fitting out her RRF unit, and is scheduled to stay until March 14, 2007...after that, it is available. Please e-mail us directly for any inquiries on this: gibsonaustin@gmail.com

thomasian

January 24th, 2008, 08:13 AM

The Roofdeck Sky Garden

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The Main lobby, function room, and the reception desk.
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The Main Lobby, with the hallway to the Ground Level Elevator Lobby.
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The Ground Level Elevator lobby, with an exit leading to the amenity area.
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The Function Room overlooking the amenity area.
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The Common Elevator Lobby
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The Common Hallway
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The Amenity Areas
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The U/C Jacuzzi to the left, and The Swimming Pool.
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As seen from the G&W Global City-division office, 2nd Level, Bonifacio Stopover, Bonifacio Global City
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