Check Out This website : www.siamparagon.co.th
Full information would be available April2003

Just inform y'all with the New Oasis in Bangkok


P.s. Hi everybody ! New comer here Nice to meet you all
sorry i don't know how to post pic ....just check out this website

Bye all :D

Welcome to the forums Beautiful One :)

What is that project about?

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What is that project about?</td></tr>
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It's a new large entertainment complex located right in the heart of Bangkok, Siam Square-Rama 1 area.
The project includes:
1.) hi-end luxury shopping center (Famous Int'l Brandnames and Jewelry Center) One of the largest jewelry trading centers in S.E. Asia.
2.) 5-star hotel
3.) Exhibition Hall
4.) Entertainment center with new IMAX theater
5.) and much more:)
The government is trying to make Bangkok a shopping paradise like Singapore. There are already many shopping centers around that area.

Thanks Rafflescity

As Kiku99 said:)
I'll add more detail soon ..

hmm..I think I have been there before. I stayed at the Novotel.

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yeah, it's very close to the Novotel at Siam Square. The site was used to be a Siam Intercontinental hotel but now it got demolished.
That area will be much better once this complex is completed. The WTC-Bangkok also will be finished soon. The owner will also add more retail space in WTC to compete with this Siam Paragon.

Is it anywhere near BMK or wat? I stayed at Asia Hotel and visited that place a lot.....

BTW Welcome Beautiful one. :D

WOW! That is one beautiful project. The Lord of the Rings theme at the end cracked me up. I did not expected that.

To huaiwei!

Year it's near MBK center ..it's Next to The Discovery center
Just only 5-10 minute away from the Asia hotel
It's interesting place for shopping center ..


BTW Nice to meet you too Huaiwei

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:cool: I thought the EXACT same thing!!

And because of that, It made me listen to my <strike>pirated</strike> LotR Soundtrack CD. (edit: No RIAA, I don't own pirated music.)

Evrybody in South East Asia is trying to be the next Hong Kong now.

wow...the website is awesome.
"Pride of Bangkok" interesting.

I stayed at the Bayoke Sky Hotel, there was a consruction site near it, was it abandoned? Looks huge from the observation tower. The base shape is 2 rectangular buildings connected at the middle.

BTW, Paragon looks very nice.

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I think you might be referring to the Pathunam Complex. It's very close to the Baiyoke Tower. The project was abandoned, but not anymore. The shopping part will be completed by the end of this year or early next year. But the residential apt. will be completed later.
This shopping complex will be a big place for wholesale cloths. So when this project is done, the area around Baiyoke tower will look a lot nicer coz those stores will be moving inside the complex.

The Pratunam Complex project included:
2 of 44 storey residential building, another 42 storey Hotel.
and 14 storey shopping complex

according from Businessday paper....the whole project will be complete soon in less than a year from now..:D

Here's the Rendering:

http://photo.keepalbum.com/photo/971194

And....There's another similar project in another area called "Bobae Complex" Which is now underconstruction....I'll get the pic soon...anyway the project included

2 of 30 Storey Residential building, 28 storey Hotel and 12 Storey shopping complex.....Here's the rendering..

http://photo.keepalbum.com/photo/971322

I can't wait for the new look of Pratunam areas
it will be the new SITE of shopping center in bangkok

What's bout BIG C Project and the New central (at world trade )?
Does anyone has an information bout it?
:angel1:

What's bout BIG C Project ?

This project "BIG C Ratchadamri Project"..is now finished..The openning date is not set yet..But 'll be in this June;)

cool;)

your pics aren't showing, Chad.
What's bout BIG C Project and the New central (at world trade )?
yeah, i've heard about that too. The Central Pattana company will change the name of WTC to something like Central World...
actually, i kinda like the current name better. (WTC-Bangkok:))
wow...Bangkok will have better wholesale shopping malls. nice so people don't have to walk outside under 34Celcius. ;)

hey welcome!

your pics aren't showing, Chad.


Hmm...Thats strange:? I don't know why though...coz It's seems working right now.....did u try to refresh it?:?

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yeah, i did refreshed it. hmm..maybe only my computer. :)

I just found some photos of the project. It will be one amazing project.
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/3147/138paragon3.jpg
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/3147/138paragon2.jpg
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/3147/138paragon1.jpg

Hey....Kiku..click on these link It might work..;)

Pratunam Complex
http://photo.keepalbum.com/photo/971194

Bobae Complex
http://photo.keepalbum.com/photo/971322

Kiku I can't see your picture

Hey u guys ,Can you teach me how to post the pic ?

Thanks in Advance

P.s. Nice to meet you too SUNNI:D

oh..my pics don't show also?
Anyways, if you wanna post a pic.
You have to use the "IMG" button on the top. Then place a link of the image.

Thank you Kiku99
I'll try

World Trade Center-Bangkok to be rename to Central World Plaza.
The complex will be expanded including more retail space, new 5-star hotel, and 40 storeys office bldg.
The whole project will be completed by 2005 to compete with a new luxury Siam Paragon.
http://www.centralpattana.com/images/worldplaza.gif
http://www.centralpattana.com/images/worldplaza.jpg

Uh??? I thought the office tower was going to be 45 storey tall?...anyway I think I don't really like this name "Central world Plaza" I like "World Trade Center" A LOT more... :ohno:

i like the name Central world Plaza, i think we hear the word world trade center too much..

how many meters is it going to be?

Wow...those renderings posted by kiku99....it looks very European dosent it? Cant imagine it plonking down smack in Siam Square...serious...:), esp considering I have walked through that area before. I would realli like to see how this development can transform the whole place :)

yeah Huaiwei, Those new projects, especially the Siam Paragon and New Central World Plaza, will hopefully life up that area a lot.
The area will be transformed into a shopping district or shopping paradise in Bangkok just like Orchard Rd.:)

In case you haven't seen it: Here's a page with photos of the Siam Intercontinental Hotel and the Paragon Shopping Center: http://www.2bangkok.com/2bangkok/MassTransit/intercon.shtml

and here's a map of the area - "Bangkok's Crucible of Contruction" - http://www.2bangkok.com/2bangkok/MassTransit/crucible.shtml

Thanks for those photos, Ankor.
It's ashamed to see Siam-Intercon hotel got demoslished. i think that hotel was very beautiful.
But well a better thing will replace it.:)

nice project

and... welcome The Beautiful Ones

Hayyy.....Do u guy remember this picture???

http://www.2bangkok.com/cityrain/images/021223.jpg

anyway.....Here is some info of it...:

This project was helt in late 1998 because of Thailand Financial Crisis.....Designed by CASA Architect....The very Popular Architect-company in Thailand and the construction company is HANA Engineering..The project in cluded 50 storey residential building and 10 storey parking garage which is connected to 9 Storey shopping mall in front of the project.The Shopping mall is also connected to Ratchadamri Road.The developer is a joined venture between "Srivigrom Group" and "Maneeya Group".Presently debt reduction is being negotiated and will hopefully be done by late 2003 and then construction can resume....

Here is the Rendering.:

http://photo.keepalbum.com/photo/986346

nice rendering, Chad. I think it will be another nice project on Rajdamri Road since it's right next to the high-end Peninsula shopping plaza.
http://www.2bangkok.com/2bangkok/royalr.jpg

Here u go....Ban Ratchadamri Project...Super Hi-end Residential Project in Bangkok....28 Storey tower with 30 units of Condominium....each unit has a Super luxurious view with 415 sq.m. room...I can't belive that now 90% has been sold!!!:eek:

http://photo.keepalbum.com/photo/987702

looks very nice and of course luxury...and the room is pretty big...415 sq.m. That's more than 4000 sq.ft. The price must be very high so only rich people can afford them.

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cool!! looks tall. nice design too!!

Here they comes!!!

Siam Paragon!!!:..

BTW..they seems really in a rush..

appologise for the badly stiched....and u can see the Pratunam Complex on the top right corner of this pic.
http://photo.keepalbum.com/photo/1001265

http://photo.keepalbum.com/photo/1001250

http://photo.keepalbum.com/photo/1001247

and....Pratunam Complex!!..The real Gigantic project in Bangkok right now...2 of 44 storey tower and another 42 storey tower..with the 14 storey shopping complex..

Rendering:

http://photo.keepalbum.com/photo/971194

construction site:

http://photo.keepalbum.com/photo/1001255

This is very interesting....u should take a look..

Bangkok World Trade Center New Rendering:....Now...the design is totally changed...nothing is seems to be the same as the older rendering...even it's name!!!...lol

http://photo.keepalbum.com/photo/1001243

http://photo.keepalbum.com/photo/1001254

Oh Kiku!!

I forgot to tell ya...according to the Major entertainment company report...There's gonna be Bangkok's 2nd IMAX movie theater in SiamParagon too!!:D

oh cool! another IMAX theater in Bangkok.:)
nice construction pics. cann't wait until all those nice projects are completed. :D
I am still sad that they lower the height of the WTC-Bangkok. and the new name doesn't sound that cool...~~~:bleep:

whoa, i didn't know that the Pratunam Complex will be that big.. 3 towers in one area. hmm..interesting. they all will be residential towers?
And the Siam Paragon is right next to a temple..;)

whoa, i didn't know that the Pratunam Complex will be that big.. 3 towers in one area. hmm..interesting. they all will be residential towers?

yeahhh....both 44 storey are residential..and another 42 is Hotel and Service-apartment...I'm still wondering about the new hotel though...as according to all those papers here..they said it's gonna be hi-rise hotel there too..but as i can see in Cantral's own project drawing..there is only like...what....17-19 storey....and Oh!!there's gonna be a conventioncenter too.....between the office tower and the hotel section!;)

Here are some Sukumvit Tower construction pics..taken today..April,25

The Rendering:

http://photo.keepalbum.com/photo/913928

Seems like they got 5 more stories to go..:

http://photo.keepalbum.com/photo/1007764

http://photo.keepalbum.com/photo/1007765

Bobae Complex:

Rendering:

http://photo.keepalbum.com/photo/971322

taken today too;)...the cores of those three building started to rising up fast now

http://photo.keepalbum.com/photo/1007763

Another skyscraper in Sukhumvit area..cool!
Is Sukhumvit tower a residential or office bldg., Chad?

Is Sukhumvit tower a residential or office bldg., Chad?

It's Office Tower;)

some of the Currently underconstruction:

World Trade Center:

http://photo.keepalbum.com/photo/1011515

Jaroen Jai Residence:

http://photo.keepalbum.com/photo/1011517

SCC Service Apartment:

http://photo.keepalbum.com/photo/1011518

i heard from a newspaper saying that there are more than 500+ underconstruction/ on hold buildings in Bangkok.

where is soi charoen jai?

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wow, it is the first time you joined the Asian forum, Padthai?
nice to meet you!
anyways, Soi Choroen Jai is around Ekamai area, eastern part of Bkk.

I used to live in BKK. Still visit regularly. So many plots of land in prime areas are still waiting to be developed. It's exciting to see the city grow, and improve too...although more greenspace and easier to cross roads are still a priority!!!

Ekkamai is near the Eastern bus terminal, right? Nothing of interest there now, but prime for residential development I guess.:)

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yeah, Ekamai is a nice residential area. There are many nice condominiums around there.
Bangkok actually has many greenspace. but still need more since the weather is so hot. and crossroads are getting better and better, especially in the business district.
I just want Bkk to be a bit cleaner. :)

You should see London; it's 50 times dirtier!!!

yeah!!!exactly!!!.....Praque is 1000 times dirtier!!!..Dang!..

Praque, is that where you're from, Chad?
My uncle went there one time. He loves all those old style structures.

nah..actually I was living in a small town called Vychodocesky...The Praha's just a capital..

...I used to live in Bratislava as well...not as nice as Prague but no tourists - a REAL city

...I used to live in Bratislava as well...not as nice as Prague but no tourists - a REAL city


Coooll!!!!!!!!!!!!!..Havorite po slovensky?PADTHAI?

isn't Praha Prague in Czech? and Bratislava the Slovakian capital

isn't Praha Prague in Czech? and Bratislava the Slovakian capital

Yep!...u got it.;)

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What was funny? I didnt get it.. and LOTR ? I didnt see anything can you tell me?

ano, este hovorim ne malo po slovensky, ale uze vel'mi davno ne som hovoril voebec!!! ay ty?

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it was kinda funny because if you go to their official website, you'll hear a great introduction of the project with Lord of the Ring in the background.

Full information would be available April2003
It's April 30th, 2003 already.:D

ano, este hovorim ne malo po slovensky, ale uze vel'mi davno ne som hovoril voebec!!! ay ty?

Thats cool...Hmm...rozpravajme po anglicky, lebo chcem aby to ostatni ludia tiez pochopili!;)

it was kinda funny because if you go to their official website, you'll hear a great introduction of the project with Lord of the Ring in the background.

and The LOTR Song!!!!

I just went to the official site of Siam Paragon again today. and they postpone the full info from April to June..so sad. :rant:

I just went to the official site of Siam Paragon again today. and they postpone the full info from April to June..so sad.

YEs,Well,that's Thailand always postpone. Heheh!! The other projects as well,either proposed or never build and then disappeared. Look at the Kra Canal. :bleep:

now the official website is completed. it looks really cool.
You guys should check it out.
www.siamparagon.co.th
I am sure that once is done, it will look awesome and will help boost that Siam Square area. :)

I like the lighting and how it changes color. Will they actually do that? It would be great if they do. :)

I like the lighting and how it changes color. Will they actually do that? It would be great if they do.
yes, i think they will do that for real. coming soon 2005 :D

Hi, im new to this forum.
I think the Siam Paragon will create a lot of benefits to the area, economically and architecturally, but one thing does bother me A LOT. Why is it that there is no significant setback of the strusture from the edge of the road? It is situated right next to Siam Station, building something this lare will only create a tunnel on Rama 1, which is not good looking.

Look how nice The Emporium looks because of the open space between Phrom Phong and the dept. store.

Originally posted by Hitesh

Hi, im new to this forum.
I think the Siam Paragon will create a lot of benefits to the area, economically and architecturally, but one thing does bother me A LOT. Why is it that there is no significant setback of the strusture from the edge of the road? It is situated right next to Siam Station, building something this lare will only create a tunnel on Rama 1, which is not good looking.

Look how nice The Emporium looks because of the open space between Phrom Phong and the dept. store.

no no...I think there'r some misunderstanding information here....The front-side of the plaza will set-back from the train station with the large park, plaza, fountain and a oriental lotus pool seperate them apart.

exactly, there will be some space between the station and Siam Paragon.

Btw, welcome to the forum, Hitesh!

http://www.2bangkok.com/2bangkok/MassTransit/setback.jpg

Well, it seems at some point it will be pretty close...

The picture posted above by Angkor is the image i based my assumption on. There is significant space between the station and the structure, but that will be elevated, at least 1 or 2 stories above ground level. You can see that there is very little space at the bottom of the image between the edge of Paragon and the skytrain pillar.

This is unfortunately a common sight, people not making public access better looking - just thier own private property. The nicely paved tree lined walkways will be above ground for Paragon customers whilst regular Bangkok citizens will have to endure the smog trapped underneath the monolith called Siam Station.

I really dont understand why the ground floor could not be set back or put underground and that conical structure be set at ground level. Gaysorn has a smaller version of that circular glass enterance and it is at ground level, makes the street look amazing.

I understand....but, infact the large plaza i mentioned before isn't gonna be at the "GROUND" level, on the other hand, It will located half storey heigher than the road level also streaching 120 meters along the Rama I Road (according to www.siamparagon.co.th . but the problem is I think there's one picture that show the plaza artist impression view which is in the site i gave below. And nevertheless also there's gonna be another large lake and plaza which build in the Oriental style called "The Enchanted Lagoon".

for more images...visit www.siamparagon.co.th

yah, if it built on the ground level, it will help the street looks better. hmm. but i am sure that the architect will try to make the area around it looks good though.

I've heard about that Lagoon too Chad. :)

I think if they build it on the ground it will be a hazard because there will be a lot of people walking around.

and, to make it clearer to u please visit the official website.

www.siamparagon.co.th

Hi! Does anyone know about the facelift for Siam Centre? I heard the news it said they will renovate its look to be ready for the opening of Siam Paragon. Can't wait to see the new look of Siam Centre. I think it will look spectacular.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Aquamadoor
I think if they build it on the ground it will be a hazard because there will be a lot of people walking around. [/QUOTE

A hazzard? how so?]

Facelift for Siam Center again?
that would be cool

Originally posted by Hitesh

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Aquamadoor
I think if they build it on the ground it will be a hazard because there will be a lot of people walking around. [/QUOTE

A hazzard? how so?]

Because people might trip on the tracks and break their leg and can't get up before the train comes

You seem to have misunderstood me.
I said they should build the main enterance to the Siam Paragon at ground level. I was not referring to the skytrain.
Having 4 Train Tracks at ground level on Rama 1 would not only be stupid, it would be impossible.

Umm....If I'm not mistaken...., There's gonna be the biggest Oceanrium in Asia at Siam Paragon...,right?


Siam Paragon to invest 1 bn baht in biggest oceanarium in Asia

Oceanis Australia Group will invest over one billion baht for 'Siam Ocean World', a giant aquarium, targeting the biggest oceanarium over the existing aquariums in Singapore, Hong Kong and Australia as well as stimulating tourism industry.
The aquarium is expected to attract more than 2 million vistiors per year and should be ready in 2005.

Siam Opera deal signed

A DEAL was signed on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 to create a theatre in Bangkok as good as the world's best opera houses.
Natural Park Plc signed a memorandum of understanding with Siam Paragon Development Co Ltd to build and operate Thailand's "first world-class theatre", Natural Park's president and CEO said

Bt2-bn entertainment venue proposed

Paragon Cinepolis, the cinema and bowling area of the entertainment complex, will be developed by Major Cineplex Group.
Vicha Poolvaraluck, president and chief executive officer of Major Cineplex, said the firm had set an investment budget of no less than Bt800 million to develop 16 screens with 5,500 seats, an Imax 3-D theatre with 600 seats and 52 bowling lanes.


The Nation : Wednesday, August 20, 2002

Source : Siamparagon Official site.


....I know the news is old., but it's good news!!....Oh well... :D

Oct, 24 2003 :


http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310dsc02716.jpg

do you know how many underground floors there will be?
from the pic, it doesn't seem that deep from the ground level.

can't wait to sit and watch a movie there.:D (if the ticket won't be too expensive.)

Wow, there will be many cinemas in that area of Bkk!

I wish that if they make an opera house to compete with the best in the world they would make it a stand alone landmark building and not as part of a shopping centre. :rant: :mad:

Originally posted by Jo

I wish that if they make an opera house to compete with the best in the world they would make it a stand alone landmark building and not as part of a shopping centre. :rant: :mad:

Thats Very true...:(

I second that opinion. The idea of having a cultural institution such as an opera house or a museum in a mall is just bad. Very bad. It shows that the developer does not value culture in a city where culture is a big attraction. What's next? A temple in a mall?

Sorry for venting. >(

I second that opinion. The idea of having a cultural institution such as an opera house or a museum in a mall is just bad. Very bad. It shows that the developer does not value culture in a city where culture is a big attraction. What's next? A temple in a mall?

...But i think The Opera house doesn't seem type of Asia's cultural or Thai's cultural .so that's why i guess that they just only need to Put and Mix its with a great location in order to spread the new Cultural to Thais to suit with their need.
According to Thai's Cultural, We have got many significant attraction place around bangkok.there's no need to put them in a mall.and in my opion .No one does

Well....IMO: I DO NOT Think The big reason is about Cultural anyway, Ofcouse It's about Money and businesses....

But yet, It's kinda good Idea to put this kind of thing in the mall too. Ofcouse those teenagers WON'T go to the Stand-Alone Operahouse I can garantee that, but yeah!, They go to the Mall!!...Thats why they put the Operahouse in it, just easier to attracted the youngs.....:)

One thing is for sure. Siam Paragon is going to be amazing!

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That's good. :)

Natural Park arm wins B3bn deal


Hotel, apartment for Siam Paragon project

Sukanya Jitpleecheep

A subsidiary of developer Natural Park Plc has won a 30-year contract to develop a resort-style five-star hotel and a luxury serviced apartment, costing three billion baht, as part of the 15-billion-baht Siam Paragon commercial complex in Bangkok.

Siam Piwat Co, the developer of Siam Paragon, has awarded a contract to rent an 18-rai plot behind the planned retail complex to Richee Intertrade Supply Co of Natural Park.

Under the project, a hotel with 300 rooms of at least 30 square metres each and a 150-unit luxury serviced apartment building are scheduled to open in 2007, two years after the Siam Paragon complex.

The lease term on the land will be 28 years with an initial payment of 500 million baht and a monthly rental of 12.5 million baht, Natural Park told the Stock Exchange of Thailand yesterday.

According to Sermsin Samalapa, president and CEO of Natural Park, Richee Intertrade Supply will raise half of the funds needed for the project by increasing its registered capital in the near future and the other half from bank loans.

He said the 50,000-sq m hotel would be in a contemporary Thai style, connecting to the Siam Paragon shopping complex. Its main target group will be foreign tourists.

After the hotel is opened, it is expected to generate sales of about 800-900 million baht per year and break even within 10 years. Kempinski, a well-known hotel management chain in Europe, was selected to manage the new hotel and serviced apartments.

Mr Sermsin said that the company had selected Kempinski because it offered a guaranteed return of at least 5% of the annual sales projection, or 100 million baht.

Chadathip Chutrakul, managing director of Siam Piwat Co, said the company chose Richee Intertrade Supply from 12 candidates because its hotel concept was in line with the company's plan to build a low-rise city hotel.

Apart from the new hotel, Natural Park was granted a contract in June to build a 400-million-baht opera house on the fifth floor of Siam Paragon.

Mr Sermsin expected the hotel room rates to be between US$170 and $200 per night and the rent of the serviced apartments to be about 1,000 baht per sq m per month.

Mr Sermsin said Natural Park had already launched six leading property projects totalling 6.1 billion baht this year. Two of the new projects will be opened in Chiang Mai and Phuket within the next two years.

The Chedi Chiang Mai Hotel, an 800-million-baht, four-storey hotel with 120 rooms, is located at the old site of the British Consulate. The other is the one-billion-baht Setai Phuket Resort Hotel which has 120 rooms of 36 sq m each.

Mr Sermsin said that apart from building new hotels in prime location, the company is interested in expanding its property business by acquiring unfinished projects or distressed assets.

Natural Park shares closed yesterday on the Stock Exchange of Thailand at 8.80 baht, down 40 satang, in trade worth 25.50 million baht.

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Originally posted by archstudent

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9000 is only for the 1st stage, which does not included "The Opera House", "Oceanarium" and "Kempinski Hotel and Serviced Apartment"....I believes the final cost would be more than 15000....;)

The Kempinski Hoel and Serviced Apartment :...located behind The Siam Paragon Shopping Complex

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310kempinski_hotel_1.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310kempinski_hotel_2.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310kempinski_hotel_3.jpg

Siam Opera :

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=8087&size=big&papass=&sort=1

nice...so it will be a resort style huh.
and the opera looks very grand.

Hi Chad: I can't seem to view
Siam Opera :

Any ideas why?

Found it :D
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310siam_opera.jpg

Thanks a bunch, Jo. :)

The hotel looks big,I saw the site last summer and it look small. I still amaze that theyr'e going build a big shopping mall as well as a hotel in the same area. Can't wait to see when it done.

Originally posted by BKKinTO

The hotel looks big,I saw the site last summer and it look small. I still amaze that theyr'e going build a big shopping mall as well as a hotel in the same area. Can't wait to see when it done.

..That square plot land is just the site for the shopping mall, The Hotel will located in the deep-garden which called "Sra-Pathum Palace Garden" behind the site......:)

Thanks Chad ,I thought that's all they have for land. So you mean all the green area at the back? of this pic? Well,that would make sense for the hugh project for the shopping centre alone. :D

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310dsc02716.jpg

NPARK decides on Siam Opera consultant

staff writer

Natural Park Plc (NPARK) said the company has decided to hire Cameron Mackintosh Consultants, a reputable world-class theatre consultant, to assist in the development of its magnificent Siam Opera project.

NPARK’s vice president project development Bunna Lertbunnaphongs said the company had conducted a thorough search for the most appropriate theatre consultant team to take part in the development of this project.

“The impressive record of Cameron Mackintosh Consultants, Arts Team and Arup Acoustic attests to their considerable expertise and experience in the theatre industry, which enhances the likelihood of a successful project,” he said.

NPARK has signed a contract with Siam Paragon Development to be the sole developer of Siam Opera.

The company is committed to the development of the finest proscenium theatre featuring full back and side stages, as well as supporting facilities to accommodate renowned Broadway musicals, grand operas and other prestigious cultural performances, and to searching for experts who will provide advice and help in the development of this project.

Cameron Mackintosh Consultants is a division of Cameron Mackintosh, the producer of numerous world-class productions, including two greatest all time hits – The Phantom of the Opera and Miss Saigon.

Over the last decade, the company has provided consultancy services to both developers and theatre operators worldwide on a variety of arts projects.

Apart from Siam Opera, NPARK has launched six other projects with a total investment of over nine billion baht. They are two serviced apartments, one office building, two hotels and the latest hotel and serviced apartments project adjacent to Siam Paragon.

Source : Bangkok Business Daily News : Nov 27, 2003

http://www.2bangkok.com/2bangkok/MassTransit/paragondec2003.jpg

Any updates? New Photos?

Very soon for the new updates........fingers 'cross......;)

Jan 18, 2004 :

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310dsc03819.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310dsc03815.jpg

so progressive!!:)

:okay:

Sorry, Have to skip this page...

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310a_the_architecture.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310a_the_oasis.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310a_the_main_fountain_plaza.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310a_the_jewel.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310a_the_cascade.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310a_the_colonnade.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310a_the_enchanted_lagoon.jpg

So the 'camera' at the last pic is from the police HQ or from Siam Square/MBK?

edit: I meant the last pic of the second post :)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310a_the_garden_walk.jpg

Floor Plan :

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310floor_plan.jpg

Side View :

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310the_shopping_destination.jpg

Jan 29, 2004 :

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310dsc04105.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310dsc04078.jpg

it will be one of the masterpieces. but hopefully, it will look as nice as the pics though. :)

That area needs this kind of project to boost the area to be fashionable street. and i think Siam Square also need a bit remodeling.

I'm sure it will. :) and it will be better if the skytrain wasn't there. I don't like it cos it cover all the nice views and malls. Moreover,the pollution underneath the station which means we get all the pollution instead may be half of it because the station blocks the air.

I agree with you Kiku,Siam Square need to be upgraded but I would say now it's getting better.

Thanks Chad for the latest pics. It has changed a lot now. What about the hotel?HAve they started?

Originally posted by BKKinTO

I'm sure it will. :) and it will be better if the skytrain wasn't there. I don't like it cos it cover all the nice views and malls. Moreover,the pollution underneath the station which means we get all the pollution instead may be half of it because the station blocks the air.

I agree with you Kiku,Siam Square need to be upgraded but I would say now it's getting better.

Thanks Chad for the latest pics. It has changed a lot now. What about the hotel?HAve they started?

I cant see the Hotel site, obviously...since it's way behind the forest....>(

ÊÃéÒ§ªÑé¹áááÅéÇ!!:D

Yeh, I can see the Car-Park Level now...:guns1:

thanks for the update Chad. While the building itself is amazing I think the landscaping is evenmore stunning!! look at the 200m long cascading water features and the elevated garden plazas for the start!! we need more projects like these to make public spaces more attractive for people to use..

Originally posted by Pas

thanks for the update Chad. While the building itself is amazing I think the landscaping is evenmore stunning!! look at the 200m long cascading water features and the elevated garden plazas for the start!! we need more projects like these to make public spaces more attractive for people to use..

Yes, The Cascade and the Fountain PLatz looks very nice!!

I can't imagine how crowd it's going to be for the first grand opening day,but I'd want ot be one of them. :D

So do I!....:D

Feb 27, 2004 :

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310dsc04451.jpg

12-03-03

http://www.student.chula.ac.th/~45340461/siam-12-03-03.JPG

second floor are rising!

Second floor!

..and we can see even less of the dtac ad :D

Originally posted by Jo

Second floor!

..and we can see even less of the dtac ad :D

Yeah, Finally the 5 years contracted has been ended, The Baiyoke Seems surprisingly tall without it......:cool:

:lol: approximately the same hight huh?

Originally posted by Jo

:lol: approximately the same hight huh?

oh yeh....:D , Just the Illusion from that enormous Sticker.....:colgate:

How true :)

I like vertical lines better.. that ad divided the tower horizontally. Actually, it completely cut off the building and really did look like a sticker, not at all a part of the building.. horrible.

Originally posted by Jo

Second floor!

..and we can see even less of the dtac ad :D

They are taking it down?

Originally posted by Aquamadoor

They are taking it down?
Yup!

Party time!
:dance:

Oh No!, They are now sticking the AIS sign on it!!!!!!!





J/K..............:D :D

Mar 23, 2004 :

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310dsc04770.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310dsc04771.jpg

finally, DTAC are disappear forever!!:cool:

Honestly, Baiyoke Looks so wired without it........:cheers:

Originally posted by Chad

Honestly, Baiyoke Looks so wired without it........:cheers:

yea... It looks like a building now. :D

Wah, B2 is so.. uh.. naked without that ad. I'm so used to seing it!

..and hey, Siam Paragon is rising... from here on it will be really interesting to follow.

Apr 19, 2004 :

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/5286imgp0505.jpg

Wow... I'm so excited about this project.

Me too, and seems like the construction has gone pretty far now...:)

i think construction speed is slowly more than other building but seems they build slowly with more quality ....that's why the site are very clean ;)

yes, as I'v been waiting for the skytrain on Siam Station and observing the site...there are quite several workers blooming those car-paths around teh site.....so funny, eventhough it's not..:)

nice to see it's coming along :)
this page summarize the Paragon project really well.

http://www.fashion-planet.com/sept98/features/bangkokfc/index.htm

pics
http://www.fashion-planet.com/sept98/features/bangkokfc/mediumpix/emp/83.jpg

http://www.fashion-planet.com/sept98/features/bangkokfc/6show/fullshow/img/82.jpg

Thanks for the pics and the website PAs. :)

very very interesting story. thanks Pas. took me a while to finish though. Bangkok Fashion City huh. not bad:)

As I noticed from the footprint of the building it's self, 9 storey shopping complex is a hugh deal......very big, I think it's around 3 times bigger than the Siam Discovery Center.

http://www.fashion-planet.com/sept98/features/bangkokfc/mediumpix/emp/supaluckb.jpg

Chief Marketing Officer of the project.

^ oh my god, she's using a lot of makeup! ;)

^ oh my god, she's using a lot of makeup! ;)
:D

^ oh my god, she's using a lot of makeup! ;)


Well....she's cheif, what did u expected...:D:D

poor lady. you guys are mean. but hehehehe, true!!!
:D

undefinedHi all,

Can anyone post photos and news update about Siam Paragon project? Oh also Erawan Bangkok (the old Erawan Sogo) would be nice. Thank you in advance Chad. I know you can make my wish comes true he heh. :booze: :puke:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=1528216#post1528216

There are loads of updates on Siam Paragon Project in the link above, weekly I can say...:)

She looks like this woman from this comic I am reading. (atleast from what I can see in that picture)

http://www.ensicaen.ismra.fr/~manga/GTO/ryoko.gif

welcome. and yeah, check out the link above. Chad always update us with new photos.

Thank you so much Chad! Any updates and pics about Erawan Bangkok and Amarin Plaza?

hmm....I'll take some as the update time arrive..:), will be soon....:)

Hey ,Welcome POLAR.. finally you came. :)

kinda similar :D

Umm... I'm still in summer course study at Siam Square. I'll take a Siam Paragon photo soon Polar. :)

Thank you for the warm welcome you guys. :)

Umm... I'm still in summer course study at Siam Square. I'll take a Siam Paragon photo soon Polar. :)


me too!!....tight schdule too....:dizzy:

Apr 25, 2004 :

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310Paragon.JPG

The Erawan Bangkok :

Apr 25, 2004 :

Note : You cant really sees a thing because of the dust-cover, but the glass facade is now almost finish..:)


http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310DSC05189.JPG

Thank you very much Chad for the updated photos. Siam Paragon site is very progress. So, the reddish brown steels area is the facade courtyard? Do you have the rendering and interior of Erawan Bangkok?

i miss bangkok lotsssssss

Thank you very much Chad for the updated photos. Siam Paragon site is very progress. So, the reddish brown steels area is the facade courtyard? Do you have the rendering and interior of Erawan Bangkok?

The exterior will looks just like before except all the facade will turns to glass that covered all the roman columns...:)

i miss bangkok lotsssssss


I bet...;)

Thank you very much Chad for the updated photos. Siam Paragon site is very progress. So, the reddish brown steels area is the facade courtyard?


Well, that is now just a construction pathways for the crain cars and construction workers Polar....not the plaza...lol

Nice to see the progress of The Siam Paragon and The Erawan Bangkok Chad. Thanks .. Yeah I miss BKK too

all the facade will turns to glass that covered all the roman columns...:)


same as amarin plaza which will be renovated soon ;)

Yep, The Amarin Plaza will be renovated as a Design Center which will be used just like a art and design museum on the 3rd floor...:)

and the 2nd floor will be an OTOP center which will displays all the OTOP products from around the country here and sells some as well.

the ground floor will still remains as the retails space..:)

IMO : I'm sure that the Amarin Plaza will looks "more awsome" than the Erawan Bangkok...;)

Yep, The Amarin Plaza will be renovated as a Design Center which will be used just like a art and design museum on the 3rd floor...:)

and the 2nd floor will be an OTOP center which will displays all the OTOP products from around the country here and sells some as well.

the ground floor will still remains as the retails space..:)

IMO : I'm sure that the Amarin Plaza will looks "more awsome" than the Erawan Bangkok...;)
It's sound great! for art and design museum on the 3rd floor.

May 3, 2004 :

Siam Paragon :

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310DSC05343.JPG

May 3, 2004 :

The Erawan :

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310DSC05412.JPG

May 3, 2004 :

Siam Paragon.. :

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310DSC05343.JPG

Thank you for the update pics Chad. Too bad we couldn't see any changes for the Erawan Bangkok. :wallbash:

:applause: :llama: BTW, do they start to build hotel in the back yet?

:applause: :llama: BTW, do they start to build hotel in the back yet?


I dont know....probably site clearing works currently on the way.

The Erawan :

May 10, 2004 :

Note : Look at the new facade !!...Very nice..;)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310paragose_073.JPG

Goegeous column designed by Rangssan Architect

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310paragose_075.JPG

Siam Paragon :

May 10, 2004 :

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310paragose_095.JPG

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310paragose_093.JPG

Note : The Cascade

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310paragose_096.JPG

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310paragose_097.JPG

WOW,,,Pretty Fast

wow, i didn't know that there will be a big change in Erawan. i thought it's only a small change.

wow, i didn't know that there will be a big change in Erawan. i thought it's only a small change.


The whole mall is being renovated included the lanscape around also..:)

May 18, 2004 :

Note : I can see the 3rd floor already..;), 6 more to go..:D

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310DSC05772.JPG

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310DSC05773.JPG

Me too :D

looks so quality :)

May 27, 2004 :

Siam Paragon :

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310DSC05889.JPG

The Christal dome

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310DSC05891.JPG

the Cascade

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310DSC05926.JPG

The Erawan :

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310Erawan.JPG

Nice glassy new looking but I think it's too white for me.

Personally I think extremely white is okay, but 'condo white' is ugly ;)

In that rendering Erawan doesn't look as Greek anymore. I think the entrance could have been more elaborate.

Super construction updates, Chad! :okay: Thank you! :) And extra points for saying what we're looking at! :applause:

I agree with BKKinTO and Jo: the Erawan is a bit too white. ;) Too white on white is boring! And you're right, the entrance is a cheap tack-on. The columns per se are very nice, but I'm sorry to hear the place lost some of its Greek appearance. :(

Yes,because when we look at it,it has nothing popping up to me.At least they should change the entrance like you guys said.It should add more attraction.

I think this rendering doesn't show the fine details of the columns etc.
I saw the design of the exterior columns somewhere, it looks nice.

it still looks very elegant. nice and classy. but like others said 'so white'. actually i am a bit confused. This one is called "The Eranwa". how about the one next to it (used to be Sogo). is it part of the project as well?

I remember this building also has many luxury stores but the other side was just like a regular shopping mall with McDonald's in the front.

anyway its better than before :)

it still looks very elegant. nice and classy. but like others said 'so white'. actually i am a bit confused. This one is called "The Eranwa". how about the one next to it (used to be Sogo). is it part of the project as well?

I remember this building also has many luxury stores but the other side was just like a regular shopping mall with McDonald's in the front.

yep.. that building used to be Sogo and on top of that the Hyatt Erawan hotel. THe building next to it is called Amarin Plaza, designed by Rangsan Architects.. and there's a big McDonalds at the front of that building.

Yes,because when we look at it,it has nothing popping up to me.At least they should change the entrance like you guys said.It should add more attraction.


The greek architectural details will still appear, but with more modern-contemporary details that blend with it might reduced some visual-inpacts.....

Appearently the details on every columns looks very stunning BTW, and if u look at it closely, it doesnt 100% Greek since some Thai appearances are still visible such as thai-decorative designs...:)

it still looks very elegant. nice and classy. but like others said 'so white'. actually i am a bit confused. This one is called "The Eranwa". how about the one next to it (used to be Sogo). is it part of the project as well?

I remember this building also has many luxury stores but the other side was just like a regular shopping mall with McDonald's in the front.


No Kiku, This u/renovation one is the former "SOGO"....another one next to it that has Mc. Donalds on the ground floor is called "Amarin Plaza" wich also soon to be developed as The Thailand Design center and Modern-Contemporary Art Museum which designed by DBALP or well known as "Duangrid Bunnark and partners"....:)

thanks for explanation Chad and Pas. I kinda remeber it now. Sogo Dept. store is in both bldg. there is like a bridge connecting these two buildings on the 3rd or 4th fl.

Yeh, thats right Kiku, so sad we dont have SOGO anymore since he mother company closed in Japan...:(

June 2, 2004 :

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310DSC05932.JPG

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310DSC05934.JPG

The Erawan :

June 2, 2004 :

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310DSC05958.JPG

Wow, Siam Paragon isreally beginning to take shape. Man I really wish we had someone who documented construction sites like this in the past. How fun wouldn't it be to see the construction sites of shopping centers we walk around in every week now, like MBK, WTC, Pantip etc! :)

I can't believe I forgot in what way The Erawan looked different before the renovation.Chad, or anyone, do you have any pix of the exterior before the change??

I like that every buildings around there will be connected.

Yep, they will be all connected by the skybridge..:okay:

:)

I can't believe I forgot in what way The Erawan looked different before the renovation.Chad, or anyone, do you have any pix of the exterior before the change??

Hmm, the windows were black....remember?

Are the window colors the only external thing that is different? Well.. it sounds like the new style would be nicer :)

Yeh, the new appearance will have a modern-contemporary look in it with some Thai-infuences feeling too....Sounds nice lah...;)

I think the Investors should build some skyscrapers next to siamparagon.
I think this idea will work out very well since this area is some kind of hit.
They have to learn from Central World Tower!! which is so call the overwhelm
success.!! and surely the central pattana group got lot of money then.

The skyscraper would rise up to 80-100 storeys and has more than 200,000 sqm. available for modern-hitech office spaces.
I think it will grabs the success just like Central world tower does and make alot money atlast.

yeah close to siam interchange station and everything around there is just a perfect location for a huge office building + only siam tower and the small MBK office are available there for now....

I think the Investors should build some skyscrapers next to siamparagon.
I think this idea will work out very well since this area is some kind of hit.
They have to learn from Central World Tower!! which is so call the overwhelm
success.!! and surely the central pattana group got lot of money then.

The skyscraper would rise up to 80-100 storeys and has more than 200,000 sqm. available for modern-hitech office spaces.
I think it will grabs the success just like Central world tower does and make alot money atlast.

Next to siam Paragon is the Royal Temple, no one can bring anything up in that piece of land.

umm.. yes you's right K.Chad.

and behind Siam Paragon is also Sra Pathum Palace, no chance either.

there is a little slum community around where WTC hotel tower will get built, will they be evacueted? or will they still be there next to Bangkok's most beautiful tower??

It obviously behind the Temple.

all those fancy towers and shopping mall all over that area but still cannot take away that tiny little slum place...

yeh, accept it.

yeah, but it's not so funny, people staying in that hotel and that will be a lot!! will see WOW what a huge cool city and then looking down there is a tiny little slum area which I think should be moved somewhere else, why not make a good area perfect??

where are you going to kick the slum dwellers to? They are people that need to live somewhere also.

yeah sure they do but having them on one of the most expensive road in Bangkok is not right, people are paying HIGH HIGH prices to live there, they live for free, I should also build a house in hmm let me see lumpini park is nice then I will have a beautifull surrounding and close to skytrain and subway also+ I don't have to pay any rent ;) good good.. How would it look if some poor people started building a slum area around timessquare in NY?? naah that wouldn't work would it??

there is a little slum community around where WTC hotel tower will get built, will they be evacueted? or will they still be there next to Bangkok's most beautiful tower??

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english pls :)

He was saying that "the land is belonged to the Crown Property Bureau. and they already have a plan to build a public park there. But there are a few problems so now only few of them have moved out. But the Bureau is still doing their best to make those people out. "

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Yep, I'v read that too Chemon.....so, u r back ?

yeah sure they do but having them on one of the most expensive road in Bangkok is not right, people are paying HIGH HIGH prices to live there, they live for free, I should also build a house in hmm let me see lumpini park is nice then I will have a beautifull surrounding and close to skytrain and subway also+ I don't have to pay any rent ;) good good.. How would it look if some poor people started building a slum area around timessquare in NY?? naah that wouldn't work would it??

There are hundreds of homeless people living on the streets around Times Square in NYC.
There are more important things in this world than earning money for expensive land. Thai people are known all over the world for their compassion and not for their greed. Please don't change this perception.

U r dang right Hitest, explain that to him....:)

yeah but they don't let people go around and build there own houses in the middle of the most expensive area. How would Times square look like if all those poor people go around building up there own community in timessquare, I sure feel pity those people who live in the slum but they should not have slum community in the middle of Bangkoks city centre, that's just awfull. Dang wrong !! :wallbash:

build an area for the poor people to live in (like klong toey)
don't have slum communities here and there in wtc area, next to emporium then have a slum community next to siam paragorn and build a little slum community in siam square haha common that's what I call a bad city planning dang dang :wallbash:

I see your point Rayman, but moving them out is not just like in a sudden. It takes time to do so, first to find new places for them then explain to them why moving and then get them out. There are many "processes" to do, not just like we want to move them out of there now and tomorrow we'll do, no. Things are more complicated in real life Ray..

yeah that's why they always burn those slum communities when the developer wanna clear the way....tragic but true

anyway I wish they could build cheap cheap condominiums (similar to those towers in muang thong tani)and let them pay low rent like 500 baht per month, then the slum would dissapear

Yep, I'v read that too Chemon.....so, u r back ?

yep! :nocrook:

yeah that's why they always burn those slum communities when the developer wanna clear the way....tragic but true
i think because those lands were private land. but since that area in a way is owned by government, so it's harder to do it that way. I actually agree with you though. i want to relocate them somewhere else. but just like Chad said it takes time to do so.
Actually, many people who live there kinda have money. but they just don't wanna move out according to my friends.

anyway I wish they could build cheap cheap condominiums (similar to those towers in muang thong tani)and let them pay low rent like 500 baht per month, then the slum would dissapear

There are, Din Daeng Flats and many other Karn Keha community, never heard of them? They are cheap like water, but yes...Slummers prefer cheaper, and happens to be "free"..

Yea it is a a pity to have slums near such a 'prestigious' area but I am sure when they picked a place to stay they didnt that area because the land was expensive. They chose it because it was government land and it was near a temple.
You keep comparing Bangkok to Times Square. Times Square has only been cleaned up in the past 8-10 years. I remember when I was younger that area was very sleazy. It was worse than Patpong. Seriouslly. It didn't take them long to clean that area up and in due time the slum will move out of the WTC area in Bangkok.