maybe that built on site? :)

Yes this is being build right now, very interesting to watch:

-k9WglNt7Hk

What is the capacity of that building. I mean how many people will be able to prey there i the same time?

I'ts amazing like s-f but It's becoming real...

millions

if it wasn't for the visa, u'd see more than 10 million muslims trying to pray there, but makkah can't have more than 4 million. but after all this developments end. the results will be huge

PDF on Abraj al-Bait by Emaar

http://www.emaarresidencesmakkah.com/ar/pdf/Emaar%20Brochure_final.pdf

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs142.snc4/36469_130234237010319_100000712293553_204201_6327817_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs062.ash2/36469_130234240343652_100000712293553_204202_2283955_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs122.snc4/36469_130234243676985_100000712293553_204203_781144_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs062.ash2/36469_130234247010318_100000712293553_204204_4248478_n.jpg

if it wasn't for the visa, u'd see more than 10 million muslims trying to pray there, but makkah can't have more than 4 million. but after all this developments end. the results will be huge

I think Saudi Arabia will slowly allow more Hajj and Umrah grants because of the developments in Makkah, especially the expansion and the shamiya area, but the accommodation i think is still a problem in Makkah... more Abraj Al-Bait's will be needed but this time they should be built away from the haram area...

It saddens me to see these buildings being erected next to the Holy Ka'abat. إنه لمن دواعي حزني أن أرى هذه البنايات تخنق الكعبة المعظمة. The origin of the Islamic rule in this is that no building should be allowed to over-shadow or rise in height above the Holy House. الإصل في الإسلام أن لا يطل على بيت الله العظيم مبنى يضاهئه أو حتى يرتفع عنه في أي بقعة من بقاع مكة المكرمة. A Muslem should be able to spot the Holy Ka'akat from anywhere in the Holy City. للمسلم أن يرى بيت الله الحرام من أي مكان في مكة المكرمة دون عائق أوخارق. But I am not surprized since this was a Prophecy told by the holy prophet Allah's Peace and Blessings be upon him. لكن لا أعجب من هكذا أمر بالنظر إلى رسول الله تعالى محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم تنبأ بهذا منذ ما يزيد على الألف وأربعة عام

It saddens me to see these buildings being erected next to the Holy Ka'abat. إنه لمن دواعي حزني أن أرى هذه البنايات تخنق الكعبة المعظمة. The origin of the Islamic rule in this is that no building should be allowed to over-shadow or rise in height above the Holy House. الإصل في الإسلام أن لا يطل على بيت الله العظيم مبنى يضاهئه أو حتى يرتفع عنه في أي بقعة من بقاع مكة المكرمة. A Muslem should be able to spot the Holy Ka'akat from anywhere in the Holy City. للمسلم أن يرى بيت الله الحرام من أي مكان في مكة المكرمة دون عائق أوخارق. But I am not surprized since this was a Prophecy told by the holy prophet Allah's Peace and Blessings be upon him. لكن لا أعجب من هكذا أمر بالنظر إلى رسول الله تعالى محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم تنبأ بهذا منذ ما يزيد على الألف وأربعة عام

have you ever been to Makkah?? the Kaaba is in the bottom of a valley, there is no way Kaaba would be seen from anywhere on Makkah even if Kaaba should be the only standing structure on the face of Makkah.
and even a one storey building just outside the Grand Mosque is higher then the Kaaba, because Kaaba is in a valley.

no such thing as an islamic rule to ban tall buildings, there have been always tall buildings next to the kaaba, from 100 meters and now 500 ... and its not sad. live with it, ppl in Makkah are excited.

yes its a prophecy. it doesn't make it "bad"

Wow, off topic disagreements. Who is correct....

It saddens me to see these buildings being erected next to the Holy Ka'abat. إنه لمن دواعي حزني أن أرى هذه البنايات تخنق الكعبة المعظمة. The origin of the Islamic rule in this is that no building should be allowed to over-shadow or rise in height above the Holy House. الإصل في الإسلام أن لا يطل على بيت الله العظيم مبنى يضاهئه أو حتى يرتفع عنه في أي بقعة من بقاع مكة المكرمة. A Muslem should be able to spot the Holy Ka'akat from anywhere in the Holy City. للمسلم أن يرى بيت الله الحرام من أي مكان في مكة المكرمة دون عائق أوخارق. But I am not surprized since this was a Prophecy told by the holy prophet Allah's Peace and Blessings be upon him. لكن لا أعجب من هكذا أمر بالنظر إلى رسول الله تعالى محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم تنبأ بهذا منذ ما يزيد على الألف وأربعة عام

This doesn't even sound serious. I bet you're probably dorky Christian white boy writing from Eugene, Oregon and trying to "fool us all".

This doesn't even sound serious. I bet you're probably dorky Christian white boy writing from Eugene, Oregon and trying to "fool us all".

i think ur right as it is his first post and the name hacker it kinda suspicious :?

what's the current Height & floor ?

have you ever been to Makkah?? the Kaaba is in the bottom of a valley, there is no way Kaaba would be seen from anywhere on Makkah even if Kaaba should be the only standing structure on the face of Makkah.
and even a one storey building just outside the Grand Mosque is higher then the Kaaba, because Kaaba is in a valley.
I have been to Makkah. I fail to see how something in a valley could not be seen from surrounding areas. I liked one of the comments that said to build gardens around with lots of shade and water. I ask you if you know what these two evil looking ugly towers mean to occultic societies who are hoping in their dumb brains to "channel Allah's powers" through this trashy bohemian occultic evil --New Yorkan-- design type abomination. If the house of Saud is an "Islamic family" then why don't they enforce Allah's law in this regard? At least why not poll Moslems all around the world if they don't want Allah? Why do they act like they own that place? They don't! This will call for a revolution. They have no authority whatsoever to tamper with this Holy Place like this. I think they are asking for it...

Looks like London and Mecca had a baby.

no such thing as an islamic rule to ban tall buildings, there have been always tall buildings next to the kaaba, from 100 meters and now 500 ... and its not sad. live with it, ppl in Makkah are excited.

yes its a prophecy. it doesn't make it "bad"
Who is building this pile of trash, I ask? Do you know the Islamic rule about building in Holy Makkah before you question my opinion? I wonder why Arabia is all of a sudden attacked by a slew of ugly high rise or sky scraper buildings? The desert is vast yet those characterless IDless identityless money loaded idiots--for Arabs always--opted to follow the steps of the Western World! People in New York for example had to go vertically when building because simply there is no space to go horizontally in New York! These idiots have this vast desert land yet they went vertically. This is simply because it is not their own decision. But I wonder who's is it? Perhaps when we compare the design of these ugly boxes to others in other places in the world, we'll soon find the answer...

This doesn't even sound serious. I bet you're probably dorky Christian white boy writing from Eugene, Oregon and trying to "fool us all".
I am a Muslem born and raised in Riyadh. I know "Saudi Arabia" better than most of you!

brother, there is no "Islamic Rule" on building in Makkah. any building that can be built in any Muslim city can be built in Makkah. there is no separate rule for that. if there is please provide proof.

Most buildings around Al-Haram are taller than the Ka'ba. The structure that was built around the Ka'ba to accommodate worshipers is taller than the Ka'ba (The current image of the Haram). The minarets that surround it are even taller.

I also don't know of any such rule.

some one please ban this paranoid idiot... STAY ON TOPIC

inside the building

http://www.ameinfo.com/images/news/4/94684-mov.gif

monorail is almost ready :)
http://arabnews.com/saudiarabia/article32602.ece/REPRESENTATIONS/large_620x350/20100320_SAU_monorail.jpg

It saddens me to see these buildings being erected next to the Holy Ka'abat. إنه لمن دواعي حزني أن أرى هذه البنايات تخنق الكعبة المعظمة. The origin of the Islamic rule in this is that no building should be allowed to over-shadow or rise in height above the Holy House. الإصل في الإسلام أن لا يطل على بيت الله العظيم مبنى يضاهئه أو حتى يرتفع عنه في أي بقعة من بقاع مكة المكرمة. A Muslem should be able to spot the Holy Ka'akat from anywhere in the Holy City. للمسلم أن يرى بيت الله الحرام من أي مكان في مكة المكرمة دون عائق أوخارق. But I am not surprized since this was a Prophecy told by the holy prophet Allah's Peace and Blessings be upon him. لكن لا أعجب من هكذا أمر بالنظر إلى رسول الله تعالى محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم تنبأ بهذا منذ ما يزيد على الألف وأربعة عام

the phrase "not over shadow or height above the holy house not exist in islam rules" that what most of muslim dont understand..its not overshadow it physically but we cannot overshadow the holy house mentality..

some one please ban this paranoid idiot... STAY ON TOPIC

inside the building

http://www.ameinfo.com/images/news/4/94684-mov.gif

monorail is almost ready :)
http://arabnews.com/saudiarabia/article32602.ece/REPRESENTATIONS/large_620x350/20100320_SAU_monorail.jpg

Metro, not monorail.

I have been to Makkah. I fail to see how something in a valley could not be seen from surrounding areas. I liked one of the comments that said to build gardens around with lots of shade and water. I ask you if you know what these two evil looking ugly towers mean to occultic societies who are hoping in their dumb brains to "channel Allah's powers" through this trashy bohemian occultic evil --New Yorkan-- design type abomination. If the house of Saud is an "Islamic family" then why don't they enforce Allah's law in this regard? At least why not poll Moslems all around the world if they don't want Allah? Why do they act like they own that place? They don't! This will call for a revolution. They have no authority whatsoever to tamper with this Holy Place like this. I think they are asking for it...

^^^^:lol:
I was born and raised in Riyadh too, and I feel like the rest here. Your comments don't make any since, sorry:hilarious

Hi guys - first post :banana:

I just want to say that this is a stunning structure - ambitious and original. Great to see a city going with something that will stand out from the crowd.

This doesn't even sound serious. I bet you're probably dorky Christian white boy writing from Eugene, Oregon and trying to "fool us all".

lol why did you pick eugene? :lol:

Umm I am a Christian white boy who lives in Eugene, OR...

^^ night shot from main tower

http://dc04.arabsh.com/i/00660/oqy7glrybb5m.bmp

^^ night shot from main tower

http://dc04.arabsh.com/i/00660/oqy7glrybb5m.bmp

old because no construction of mosque expansion is visible.. :) but a great picture...

Working day and night

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9285/47509045745531794a88b.jpg

Working day and night

i guess it is working night and part of the day. i don't think they work at peak heat hours.

Umm I am a Christian white boy who lives in Eugene, OR...

not dorky? :P

so what total floors will be..??

so what total floors will be..??

76 floors...


Nice pics.....:okay:

^^ someone should add that into the title.....

^^ someone should add that into the title.....

I think I can grab a bit of attention ;)


ADD 76 FLOORS TO THE TITLE !!!!
Please :tongue4:

Metro, not monorail.

From the pictures, definitelly ... however everywhere in the press they refer to it as a monorail which always buffled me: How can a monoral that is usually build to transport a small group of people, not to say more expensive then regular 2 track rail, can be proposed and build in a place were a huuuuuge mass transporting of people is required?

I think I can grab a bit of attention ;)


ADD 76 FLOORS TO THE TITLE !!!!
Please :tongue4:

^^ hahahah:lol: nice work......

^^ Hi guys
not important title, most important is high :lol:

^^ Hi guys
not important title, most important is high :lol:

It's standard to include the numbers of floors in the thread title, at least with habitable towers. So it is important! Title should be:

MECCA | Abraj Al-Bait | 595m | 1950ft | 76 fl| U/C

^^ Hi guys
not important title, most important is high :lol:

no, the floor count is very important because it tells you how much habitable space a tower actually has!

stunning!:)

^^ good reasons but we interested in skyscrapers in the high :)

They need this monster building in Downtown Abu Dhabi.

Some parts of downtown Abu dhabi are as crowded as Makkah

From the pictures, definitelly ... however everywhere in the press they refer to it as a monorail which always buffled me: How can a monoral that is usually build to transport a small group of people, not to say more expensive then regular 2 track rail, can be proposed and build in a place were a huuuuuge mass transporting of people is required?

I think some people mistakenly refer to any form of elevated train as a monorail.

Can someone tell me WHY can´t non-muslims go to this building?? Or go to mecca at all??

Can someone tell me WHY can´t non-muslims go to this building?? Or go to mecca at all??

simple. its law :)

Sorry, but I don´t know what "LAW" your are talking about. Is this some absurd religious thing??

^^The law was enacted in ~1700s because some morons tried to destroy Qib'la so Saudi king closed the city for non-Muslims.

Sorry, but I don´t know what "LAW" your are talking about. Is this some absurd religious thing??

For the sake of this thread, go re-read all pages... this thread shouldnt be ruined again and again.

Sorry, but I don´t know what "LAW" your are talking about. Is this some absurd religious thing??

in Islamic Law, non-muslims are not allowed to come near the Grand Mosque of Makkah.
now, we are not here to debate on Islamic Law. this thread is about Abraj al Bait. so please keep on topic.

Plus it's sacred ground, for worshippers not tourists (muslim or non muslim) - don't interpret it as simple prejudice. In the 80s the king invited some French non-muslim guests there, that's the only time recently the law was usurped.

I´m sorry again gentlemen. I don´t want to ruin the forum. With this topic I am DONE. But I must say that I didn´t know about islamic law. I was just surprised to find out that islam does NOT allow non-muslims to take part in certain things. And that to me is called DISCRIMINATION. And that should never be allowed under GOD´S heaven. You can come to my church any time. You will be welcome even if you hate Catholics and non-coran-believers. And even if you tried to kill me out of anger and hate for calling you a terrorist! **JESUS=LOVE****VIVA CRISTO REY Y LA VIRGEN DE GUADALUPE**

^^ back to topic, how high now?

I´m sorry again gentlemen. I don´t want to ruin the forum. With this topic I am DONE. But I must say that I didn´t know about islamic law. I was just surprised to find out that islam does NOT allow non-muslims to take part in certain things. And that to me is called DISCRIMINATION. And that should never be allowed under GOD´S heaven. You can come to my church any time. You will be welcome even if you hate Catholics and non-coran-believers. And even if you tried to kill me out of anger and hate for calling you a terrorist! **JESUS=LOVE****VIVA CRISTO REY Y LA VIRGEN DE GUADALUPE**

What the H***???
is this a missionary thread now? :bash:
GOSH, we Muslims LOVE Jesus (peace be upon him). now will you please stop? :ohno:

What the H***???
is this a missionary thread now? :bash:
GOSH, we Muslims LOVE Jesus (peace be upon him). now will you please stop? :ohno:

you know you could have just ignored him like i did, to be honest that type of stuff will NEVER stop, so just ignore it...

BTW how high is it now ? any more clock updates ??

^see 400m+ diagram. its about 450m

^see 400m+ diagram. its about 450m

^^ Hi CULWULLA

last diagram for you was 460m

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4067/4657829024_06bcaf8f1a_b.jpg[/QUOTE]

^^ last diagram.

awesome diagram, but might be has some mistakes!!

^^ i doubt it!!

it seems right, its HUGE to look at too.

we need more photo updates.(in daylight) lol

Excuse my ignorance, but I just noticed that it will have only 76 floors. That seems like very few for a 1,950 foot building. Is that the floor count for the main tower? Or the other ones surrounding it?

Excuse my ignorance, but I just noticed that it will have only 76 floors. That seems like very few for a 1,950 foot building. Is that the floor count for the main tower? Or the other ones surrounding it?

thanks to the tall spire and heights of the floors :cheers:
yes it is floor count of the main tower.

^^ i doubt it!!

he should have atleast put the clock on :)

^^ the clocks not finished yet!!

^^ the clocks not finished yet!!

atleast the finished part :ohno:

^^ if you look he has put on there what has been finished! :)

Now back on topic...........

Excuse my ignorance, but I just noticed that it will have only 76 floors. That seems like very few for a 1,950 foot building. Is that the floor count for the main tower? Or the other ones surrounding it?
see diagram-
12floors in podium
hotel-first section-33 floors, 2nd section-25floors
royal suites-8floors
mech levels-5 floors
exhibition/lunar levels-2
total-(85)
there is also 5 or so more observation levsls above this.
so in reality its about 90 actual levels to the base of the spire.

I'm thinking about taking pictures some time in the next month. What's the law on taking pictures in public nowadays? I remember a time when cops would stop you from taking pictures in public places.

Do I have to ask for permission?

I'm thinking about taking pictures some time in the next month. What's the law on taking pictures in public nowadays? I remember a time when cops would stop you from taking pictures in public places.

Do I have to ask for permission?

Last time i have been in mecca, i took pictures inside the haram, nobody stopped me, I actually asked one of the security guards working in the Haram area, he told me just don't take pictures towards women, and he said take them from the top floor of the mosque...

I'm thinking about taking pictures some time in the next month. What's the law on taking pictures in public nowadays? I remember a time when cops would stop you from taking pictures in public places.

Do I have to ask for permission?

^^ Hi womfalcs3
no problem for taking some pictures like abumuhannadh went to mecca and
taken some pictures :)

empire state looks soo small O_O

^yeah but i suppose it is 80 years old now.still one of tallest in world.

^yeah but i suppose it is 80 years old now.still one of tallest in world.

a milestone ~

KillerZavatar, you certainly are a curious couple.

3 Months Ago

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4118/4769083756_dce58ed603_b.jpg

so..........many.........cranes........:dizzy:

I don't remember seeing this many on a single project before. Just demonstrates how big this thing is.

I can count 15 cranes:nuts:

really it's huge project and it's has 7 towers needs a lot of cranes...:)

Why aren't Islamic numerals being used in the clock? I think they should change them. They look awefully like Roman numerals, even if they aren't.

Also... if you are not Muslim, are you allowed to visit the city? I´m sure not the mosque, but the area around it? It looks really interesting.

yup, non-muslims can't enter the city. no its not Roman numerals, and it will look bad with Arabic numerals (1 2 3 4 ... ), they look like this >>> ||

its a very crowded city

http://karim74.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/masjid-al-haram-in-makkah-saudi-arabia-night.jpg


New Picture ? Abraj Al Bait from inside

http://www.hoteldesigns.co.uk/library/1255302000/12_10_2009_Claire_Richmond_Intl__Makkah_Clock_Royal_Tower.jpg

^^Amazing....

Does anyone else think that this is a case of great building but wrong location?

^^ Where would you prefer it located?

It would be better if it was built in the current location:lol:

i agree with u
it would be better if they built it on another area
anyway they almost done :tongue2:

^^ Where would you prefer it located?

Somewhere away from the holy site. It just kind of dominates everything around it and distracts from the mosque.

I hope i can visit the city someday...

Somewhere away from the holy site. It just kind of dominates everything around it and distracts from the mosque.

all the city of Makkah is Considered a holy site :lol:

yup, non-muslims can't enter the city. no its not Roman numerals, and it will look bad with Arabic numerals (1 2 3 4 ... ), they look like this >>> ||

its a very crowded city

http://karim74.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/masjid-al-haram-in-makkah-saudi-arabia-night.jpg


New Picture ? Abraj Al Bait from inside

http://www.hoteldesigns.co.uk/library/1255302000/12_10_2009_Claire_Richmond_Intl__Makkah_Clock_Royal_Tower.jpg

^^ i think this pic last days of ramdan, wonderful it..:)

It would be better if it was built in the current location:lol:

:lol: , yeah i say very wonderful location :)

Somewhere away from the holy site. It just kind of dominates everything around it and distracts from the mosque.

Yup. Abraj Al-Bait represent gluttony, flamboyancy, materialism, and greed. That will overshadow, or at the very least conflict with, the humility and spirituality of Al-Masjid Al-Haraam.

I'm still impressed with it as a building, but not very fond of its proximity to the Masjid.

Just look at how they're advertising it. "Its construction cost is the equivalent of the GDP of this many countries"; "its total surface area is the equivalent of this many football fields.";"it has this many chocolate rooms."; "it uses this much gold.". What happened to humility and modesty?

Al-Masjid Al-Haraam is a place where the rich and poor are indistinguishable. Where we all pray side by side, where we circle the Ka'ba side by side. This project contradicts that.

Well put, womfalcs3.
And they call the "west" materialistic ????

http://www.al-madina.com/files/imagecache/node_photo/taime.jpg

the height is :470 m

Does anyone else think that this is a case of great building but wrong location?
I feel the same. I would have preferred it in a receded position relative to the grand mosque. 200-300 meters away, still part of that city center, but not towering over the Kaaba.

^^ thanks Rody69 great update :banana::banana::banana:

Some good progress on the clock face. Thanks for the picture and height update!

I love this city..

Almost as tall as Hong Kong ICC, nice record and keep growing !

this is some new pics i have took it from http://almiskeenah.com :)

http://almiskeenah.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/makkah-june2010z7.jpg

http://almiskeenah.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/makkah-june2010z10.jpg

http://almiskeenah.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/makkah-june2010b.jpg

http://almiskeenah.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/makkah-june2010c.jpg

http://almiskeenah.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/makkah-june2010e.jpg

http://almiskeenah.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/makkah-june2010l.jpg

http://almiskeenah.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/makkah-june2010o.jpg

http://almiskeenah.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/makkah-june2010r.jpg

http://almiskeenah.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/makkah-june2010s.jpg

http://almiskeenah.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/makkah-june2010t.jpg

those arent really new pic because more of the clock is done in the pic rody posted
http://www.al-madina.com/files/imagecache/node_photo/taime.jpg
this tower is going along really nicely! :)

oh, i didn't notice that :sleepy:

thanks buddy :)

Atleast we have some construction pics, its been a wjile since we had an update!

yesterday rody and i were talking about the clock and he told me that they r gonna put 4 clocks on each side , which s mean they have decided to change the design :)

clock soon to be finished :)

yesterday rody and i were talking about the clock and he told me that they r gonna put 4 clocks on each side , which s mean they have decided to change the design :)

He might have ment 4 clocks in all, one on each of the 4 sides.
:cheers:

4 on each side sounds better :D

Mecca, London, New York, Hong Kong lol

Do you guys think this will make a noise if it hits 12 or an hour like other clocks?

I dunno.....the sound might interrupt prayer if it goes off every hour. We'll see though.

I think it will only announce prayer times and religious occasions.

stunning update pictures....cant wait till finish...

^^
me too buddy :(

i wish i were there :(

Not the latest updates but very nice and worthy photos! Thanks a lot !

http://a.imageshack.us/img193/5043/478662976450151c0f27b.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img195/8982/4786667080605ddc2bd5b.jpg

well, thats totally new :D
tanks my friend for the update :)

^^ Stunning!

Thanks for the pics ibib! The clock looks great. I can't wait for the crescent!

wow they have put the hands on already!! Thought they would wait till the clock was finished.

I thought the hands should be BLACK ?

awesome pics, Actually the clock harder stage in build this tower..:cheers:

I like to go there but I think non-Muslims are not allowed to get that close to their sacred place...

I thought the hands should be BLACK ?

me too..
blank... WTF... so that mean we can't see from far away the hours:ohno:

Wow! amazing pictures!
I must admit I was more that skeptical that this building would look nice, but actually it does, and it seems to fit not too bad within its environment.
Nice piece of architecture finally!
It's a bit off-topic, but If I understood well only muslims are allowed in Meccah? Is that rule still applied or is there exceptions? We'll be waiting for pictures once it's finished then :-)

incredible. looks like still 450m high (top of clock section). with core maybe above 460m?
we need photos further away not underneath to see current height. its too tall underneath it.

Thanks to 'asyiqul^huur's, as usual, his pics are beautiful

http://a.imageshack.us/img820/2788/4793298588d7d14d2da3b.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img689/2416/4793298600b8cd7825d9b.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img686/8397/4793298598faa4833678b.jpg

^^ awesome..!!!:cheers::banana:

I think you can see in the second picture one of the cranes lefting a piece of clock:lol:

There must be another part to add on top of the hands of the clock. White hands would be almost invisible at a distance.

There must be another part to add on top of the hands of the clock. White hands would be almost invisible at a distance.

Maybe they are planning to have a cover for it :dunno: I remember previously there were images of the black hands with mosaics etc etc.

There must be another part to add on top of the hands of the clock. White hands would be almost invisible at a distance.

checkout this video from an earlier date. the hands ARE black

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Thanks to 'asyiqul^huur's, as usual, his pics are beautiful

http://a.imageshack.us/img820/2788/4793298588d7d14d2da3b.jpg



WOW, look at those claddings, i am sure many people who disliked this building will now start to like it. many have also talked about their changed view. :)

Maybe the white ones are temporary, these are pics from the company "Premier Composite Technologies" that prepared the handles. And as seen in the video posted by abumuhannadh, these were also shipped to UAE to be shipped later to Makkah.

http://a.imageshack.us/img338/5678/project1img129.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img51/5460/project1img13.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img443/6839/project1img125.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img689/5484/project1img12.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img231/8406/project1img124.jpg

very nice pics....:okay:

Wow! That is really fancy building! Now I am wondering what is real cost to build this...

wow clock almost completed that awesome great update :banana::banana::banana:

This is the exact height of Rawabi when it is done. CULWULLA, if you can, please compare the heights as there is no official information about it. I'll post more information on the Saudi forum soon.

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5839/19064274.jpg

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/9081/91561915.jpg

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/9287/62280796.jpg

I still think that last plan is absolute horrible. It has no relations to the city at all.... Look at that huge, no, lets say freaking enormous blank wall at the base that is blocking everything. It says BANG in your face!, to the people who live next to it.

Could be temporary hands or maybe the white colour is a protective coat

Could be temporary hands or maybe the white colour is a protective coat

Yes you're probably right.

Could be temporary hands or maybe the white colour is a protective coat

I was thinking that too....don't want that thing getting scratched up in transit.

^^ yeah thats what i was thinking!

WOOOOW

almost done :)

thanks ibib for the greatest update ever :D

Guys, don't you think by comparing ashiqulhuur pics with Alharthi (last pic), that the difference between clock sizes is huge!!!

http://a.imageshack.us/img820/2788/4793298588d7d14d2da3b.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img689/2416/4793298600b8cd7825d9b.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img686/8397/4793298598faa4833678b.jpg

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/6388/479332991717dcd10706b.jpg

That last picture really shows the size, WOW.

Guys, don't you think by comparing ashiqulhuur pics with Alharthi (last pic), that the difference between clock sizes is huge!!!


its huge actually
and they start working on the other side
but i think the lift side and the right side r gonna be smaller than the other sides

thanks alot buddy :)

ibib, looking at my diagram compared to your diagram of planned towers
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4067/4657829024_06bcaf8f1a_b.jpg

towers 1&2 look about 330m tall.
towers 3,4 &5 are 300m tall.
(thats 5 more supertalls)
all the others range from 230m-270m?
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/9287/62280796.jpg

Thanks CULWULLA, I was hoping the 1&2 towers to be supertalls, but since we have 5 out of the 20 towers as supertalls, and the two projects are connected (Abraj albait & Rawabi Abraj albait), we may use the same thread to follow it up in the future, specially that Abraj Albait is almost finished:)

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/7323/50210807.jpg

This is the exact height of Rawabi when it is done. CULWULLA, if you can, please compare the heights as there is no official information about it. I'll post more information on the Saudi forum soon.

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5839/19064274.jpg

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/9081/91561915.jpg

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/9287/62280796.jpg

Is this really planned?
Possible that we will see some redesign here since even the render looks really bumbling
I like the idea though. Without any big buildings on the back side of the tower it is in my opinion a too big difference in height to the buildings behind. The front part facing the kaaba has this nice continuous transition, this project could give the same aspect to the backside of this whole complex.
Anyhow, the clock looks just superb!! :nuts:

This building is truly a work of art.

Guys, don't you think by comparing ashiqulhuur pics with Alharthi (last pic), that the difference between clock sizes is huge!!!




http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/6388/479332991717dcd10706b.jpg

wow indeed it's very giant...:uh:

Impressive shots !! What a giant !!!

Night shots: thanks to Naja Helal and Rakan-22:)

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/5977/479902148261544a76a5b.jpg

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/2411/47986960474ca0248345b.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3433/4798438981e562229eaeb.jpg

Awesome shots guys!

[QUOTE=ibib;60425193]Night shots: thanks to Naja Helal and Rakan-22:)

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/2411/47986960474ca0248345b.jpg


^^ really it's exceptional shot..:)

From the sides this building looks so out of proportion. I wish the side towers were taller. Still one hell of a building though!

massive and giant :eek: :eek: :eek:

تم الانتهاء من تركيب قواطعها
«ساعة مكة» تدق قبل رمضان


http://img103.herosh.com/2010/07/16/184311590.jpg (http://www.herosh.com)


تشهد مكة المكرمة خلال الأيام القليلة القادمة تدشين اكبر ساعة في العالم بأعلى أبراج البيت (وقف الملك عبدالعزيز) والتي اكتمل مؤخراً تركيب جميع قواطعها وأجزائها، حيث من المقرر تشغيلها قبل شهر رمضان المبارك.

ساعة مكة يبلغ قطرها 46 متراً، فيما يبلغ ارتفاعها 402 متر من ساحة الحرم ويمكن رؤيتها وسماع صوتها على مسافة 7 كيلو مترات، كما يعلو الساعة من الجهات الأربع "لفظ الجلالة". ويشتمل المشروع على عدد 4 ساعات للجهات الأربع للبرج منها ساعتان رئيسيتان بارتفاع حوالي 80 متراً، بما فيها لفظ الجلالة وبعرض حوالي 65 متراً وقطرهما حوالي 39 متراً.

وصنعت ساعة مكة في ألمانيا، وقد ركبت على جدران الساعة مصادر ضوئية (ليزر) تصدر إشعاعات في المناسبات المختلفة كالأعياد وإشارات ضوئية وقت الأذان. وحددت الألوان (الأبيض والأخضر) و(الأسود والأبيض) كألوان أرضية المسطحات الساعة ليلاً ونهاراً ولها نظام حماية متكامل ضد العوامل الطبيعية من أتربة ورياح وأمطار.

الجدير بالذكر أنه أطلق عليها اسم ساعة مكة المكرمة وستعتمد كتوقيت زمني رسمي ثابت عبر وسائل الإعلام والجهات ذات العلاقة، كما ستكون كتوقيت رسمي ثابت للعالم الإسلامي.


http://www.alriyadh.com/2010/07/16/article544097.html

they have published in all the news channels that the clock is set on the height of 402 m from the ground,plus it's 80 m tall,doesn't that mean the height now is around 482 -485 m??

Truly an oppressive and overbearing structure...somehow, I think it fits the holiest city of Islam perfectly.

is this necessary, do you really wanna go there:rant:

What is the significance of the crossed swords on the clock face?

it is the national emblem of Saudi Arabia. with the date palm tree in the middle

se estan pasando mucho con ese enjambre.... ¿no seria mejor mejorar los edificios de la meca?

http://a.imageshack.us/img231/8406/project1img124.jpg

What is this? Some kind of antenna? Where is it placed on the clock and what does it do?

^^ it is the middle of the clock, where the hands are joined......

^^ it looks beautiful .

I think the whole complex is absolutely stunning. Hopefully the addition gets a re-design, looks a tad too bland compared to the existing complex.

Relax dude, it's just an opinion. I don't know why people get so worked up about the criticisms of this building.

I mean, it's not like it itself is a holy place of worship or anything!



Yes, racism is an opinion. Just to get this clear, you weren't criticising the building, you were criticising the religion, and rather clumsily I may add:

Truly an oppressive and overbearing structure...somehow, I think it fits the holiest city of Islam perfectly.

it really defines the city

Facts are facts. Are you trying to tell me that this complex isn't overbearing in how it dominates the whole city?

And seriously, what does anything I said have to with race? Or is this another case of the boy who cried 'racism' one too many times that the claim becomes meaningless...

may be he bolded the wrong sentence. that sentence doesn't bother me, for one. but the second sentence is something to ponder. anyway, this thread is famous for going off topic ten times a week. can we stop this and concentrate on the building rather then commenting with sentences like...
...somehow, I think it fits the holiest city of Islam perfectly...
after saying it is...
...Truly an oppressive and overbearing structure..

^exactly.

Amerindish, please explain why you reference the holiest city of Islam as fitting perfectly for a 'truly oppressive and overbearing structure'.

^^
that explains your real intention before, thank you very much

A bit ironic that he'd use the word "overbearing" when it so perfectly describes his appearance in this thread. ;)

it must be close to being the second tallest building in the world now, does anybody know when it will be?

it must be close to being the second tallest building in the world now, does anybody know when it will be?

This post (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=60461055&postcount=4659) theorizes that the current height is 482-485m. The second tallest buildings are Taipei 101 at 508m (by highest architechtural detail), Shanghai World Financial Center at 487.4m (by roof height) or Sears Tower at 527.3m (by highest point overall). Since the last one doesn't count officially, you may take your pick between the first two. If you decide to go by roof height, Abraj Al-Bait have almost overtaken the Shanghai WFC, so in that category it could almost be counted as second tallest in the world. If you go by architectural detail - which would make more sense since Abraj Al-Bait have a spire like Taipei 101 - it still has 20-25 meters to go. At the current rate of growth that should be done in no time.

TOWER IS STILL ABOUT 460M TALL

^^ thanks cul, hopefully that will help the thread get back ON TOPIC

Observation pod at 558m. won't that mean it will have the highest observation deck in the world? I think this tower is turning out quite good actually. it certainly has a lot of colour anyway, which I think is quite cool.:)

Observation pod at 558m. won't that mean it will have the highest observation deck in the world?

for now, yes. the shanghai tower will have an observatory deck at 565m.

Update


FINAL HEIGHT = 601 METER


New renders will be available soon after 2 hours (God willing).

Deleted for double post

Wow!

TOWER IS STILL ABOUT 460M TALL
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4077/4807837484_a8d2955c1b_o.jpg

CULWULLA the best SSC graphic artist . :banana:

New Renders:

Makkah Clock

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/5643/10959932.gif

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/6158/50384762.gif

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/7370/85171065.gif

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/4468/49374417.gif

North

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/9649/north.gif

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/5593/northnight.gif

East

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/2379/east.gif

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/4287/eastnight.gif

North & East

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/1716/northerneastnight.gif

Section

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/3796/section.gif

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/943/steelsection.gif

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/2820/steelsection2.gif

Motor of the Clock

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/1157/motor.gif

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3070/motor4.gif

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/1402/motor3.gif

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CULWULLA the best SSC graphic artist . :banana:

^^ I do agree :). Thanks for the renders DreaM1981. This picture was taken by ashiqulhuur last friday.

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/8807/4808552710f928ae92a9b.jpg

why is the tower clock turn to green at the night ?!?!?!?!?!
I HATE GREEN ..... :(

After many tests at night and testing of different colors by the manufacturer, they found that green and white colors together are the most visible colors at night. that is all

The clock motor looks like a ship cannon. ;)

flickr by Marwan AL-Marzugy
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4808519566_00a56d45b8_b.jpg

very great pics dream thanks a lot, HIGH: 600m:banana::banana:

Forgive me if this has been asked before, but do the clock and spire appear out of scale to anyone else but me? I realize the need to increase visibility of the clock face from the ground, but that only begs the question about the functionality. The spire, meanwhile, feels very brutish compared to the tower as a whole.

My other lament about the design is the clustering of structures surrounding the main tower. While perhaps vital to the economics of the development overall I regret their intrusion on the view of (and, presumably, from) the main tower. It's to me as if the whole development is not greater than the sum of its parts.

On the positive I appreciate the detailing I'm seeing the actual construct as opposed to the renderings. A nice balance between classical skyscraper form and the nuances of local art and design. I think the green of the clock would be quite appealing, as well, both for cultural ties and softening the glow of such a large surface. Anxious to see the finished product there.

Cheers. :cheers:

why is the tower clock turn to green at the night ?!?!?!?!?!
I HATE GREEN ..... :(

Saudi Arabia Flag:

http://www.indexmundi.com/flags/sa-lgflag.gif

wow great news, from those renders it looks like the clock is going to be the same size on all four sides?

wow, many thanks dream1981. what would we do without you?
ive worked out, all heights stay same but the section just below crescent (the stem) is increased by 10m. you can compare to earlier cut away diagram.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4114/4810344852_5aae347790_b.jpg
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/3796/section.gif

heres updated diagram
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4138/4810331466_38b4188c77_o.jpg

I simply can't get enough of this building ... fascinating, beautiful, intriguing, audacious. Love it!

Thank you to everyone who has been sharing information/pics!! You're doing a great job of keeping this amazing project alive and active for those of us in other parts of the world. Hat's off to you!

If you look at the renders, the east clock doesn't look round.
It looks elliptical, with the width diameter is smaller than the height.
Maybe the scale is off, but the east height is greater and the width is
less than the north face.

Hey CULWULLA, in your diagram, the top of the spire is off centre.
Were they drunk when they designed it? lol

PS great diagrams as usual, we all love them.

^^ now that you say that it does look eliptical, wonder if it supposed to be like that or not?

If you look at the renders, the east clock doesn't look round.
It looks elliptical, with the width diameter is smaller than the height.
Maybe the scale is off, but the east height is greater and the width is
less than the north face.

Hey CULWULLA, in your diagram, the top of the spire is off centre.
Were they drunk when they designed it? lol

PS great diagrams as usual, we all love them.

East/West look like having the same height as North and South, just differ in width

^^ now that you say that it does look eliptical, wonder if it supposed to be like that or not?
Looks to me like someone messed up the image resizing, the whole thing looks stretched. So i think it's gonna be just as rectangular and the clock face just as round as the west side.

why hasnt the thread title been fixed/ who is responsible? there have many requests to change this and others and nothing fuckin gets changed? it wasnt like this when i was mod. i did it straight away!

If you look at the renders, the east clock doesn't look round.
It looks elliptical, with the width diameter is smaller than the height.
Maybe the scale is off, but the east height is greater and the width is
less than the north face.

Hey CULWULLA, in your diagram, the top of the spire is off centre.
Were they drunk when they designed it? lol

PS great diagrams as usual, we all love them.
ha,yeah i had to update the spire due to new changes to height. ive fixed it now,next month will show straighter spire.:nuts:

Oh only 13 flights of stairs to get from the bottom to the top of the clock. Sheesh!

:dunno: Why is it taking them long

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MECCA | Abraj Al-Bait | 601m | 1972ft | 95 fl | U/C
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please change ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

MECCA | Abraj Al-Bait | 601m | 1972ft | 95 fl | U/C

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flickr by Marwan AL-Marzugy
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4808519566_00a56d45b8_b.jpg

they are working on the crown right now :D

yay hey finished the clock


and for the mods..........

please change ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

MECCA | Abraj Al-Bait | 601m | 1972ft | 95 fl | U/C

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shouting worked last time, lets SHOUT :)

UPDATE THE TITLE PLEASE


MECCA | Abraj Al-Bait | 601m | 1972ft | 95 fl | U/C

I wonder how they will squeeze 19 floors into six meters. ;)

Very very bigggg

fantastic tower , event the tower not yet finish...

I'll pitch in...

UPDATE THE TITLE PLEASE


MECCA | Abraj Al-Bait | 601m | 1972ft | 95 fl | U/C

601 meters ??? Great mark ! It now looks very nice with the clock already finished...

This is the best thread to follow nowadays after Burj Khalifa's completion. Cheers!

North

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/9649/north.gif

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/5593/northnight.gif

Can't wait to see it glow at night !

great Idea

I am really happy and proud that you all like this project now.

I remember when I joined this thread and updated the details of this project about the new heights, no one believed me and asked for proves then I updated this thread and posted first picture for the clock, most comments here were YUK. out of the scale !!!!!!!!!!!

Now after posting the details of the clock and the new height, you all are happy and like it now even without asking for proves for the new height.

first of all, thanks for the trust and secondly I am really proud to be the source for the details of this great project. thanks guys

This is the best thread to follow nowadays after Burj Khalifa's completion. Cheers!

wait till shanghai tower rises above street level. then you will see real 632m, no spire, clocks, antennas, crescents or whatever decoration today's supertall have. ;)

Ur from china u should be proud :)
Saudies are proud of this clock as well ;) this tower would look ugly with out the iconic spear (isn't too think to be called a spear anyways ?)

PEACE

I'm sorry if this has already been brought up, but I need to ask: What material will the spire and crescent at the top be made of? Will it be coated in gold? Is any gold used at all? At the very least I hope it's an incredibly shiny material so that the building stands out even more from its surroundings :)

Ur from china u should be proud :)
Saudies are proud of this clock as well ;) this tower would look ugly with out the iconic spear (isn't too think to be called a spear anyways ?)

PEACE

of course, the clock looks marvellous here. :) also, Abraj Al-Bait isn't a tower you see every day, it's special (massive!) from the bottom to the top. it couldn't stand anywhere but mecca. so, yes peace. :D

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8672/112kw.jpg

Source: Alwatan newspaper

Now one of the hands is black and they start to go up. The cladding on the sides start to show.

ساعة مكة Abraj Al-Bait أبراج البيت Makkah Clock

FACEBOOK PAGE : http://www.facebook.com/pages/sat-mkt-Abraj-Al-Bait-abraj-albyt-Makkah-Clock/121394641239830?v=wall

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I'm sorry if this has already been brought up, but I need to ask: What material will the spire and crescent at the top be made of? Will it be coated in gold? Is any gold used at all? At the very least I hope it's an incredibly shiny material so that the building stands out even more from its surroundings :)

All we know is that it is covered with Italian mosaic titles, 13,000 of which are made from real gold + 700,000 LED lights will also be integrated into the composite cladding to light up the clock face by night.

Check the german company site http://www.pct.ae/composite_projects.php?project=1

^^ the link is really helpful and informative , thanks .
http://www.pct.ae/composite_projects.php?project=1

All we know is that it is covered with Italian mosaic titles, 13,000 of which are made from real gold + 700,000 LED lights will also be integrated into the composite cladding to light up the clock face by night.

Check the german company site http://www.pct.ae/composite_projects.php?project=1

are you talking about the spire or the clock? cos i think selvovic was asking about the spire.

I am really happy and proud that you all like this project now.

I remember when I joined this thread and updated the details of this project about the new heights, no one believed me and asked for proves then I updated this thread and posted first picture for the clock, most comments here were YUK. out of the scale !!!!!!!!!!!

Now after posting the details of the clock and the new height, you all are happy and like it now even without asking for proves for the new height.

first of all, thanks for the trust and secondly I am really proud to be the source for the details of this great project. thanks guys

I was one of the people that hated the clock. Now it looks extremely gorgeous. The renders don't do the real building justice. :)

^^
hands became black :banana:

great update "IBIB" :D

I am really happy and proud that you all like this project now.

I remember when I joined this thread and updated the details of this project about the new heights, no one believed me and asked for proves then I updated this thread and posted first picture for the clock, most comments here were YUK. out of the scale !!!!!!!!!!!

Now after posting the details of the clock and the new height, you all are happy and like it now even without asking for proves for the new height.

first of all, thanks for the trust and secondly I am really proud to be the source for the details of this great project. thanks guys


Are you joking? It looks vile, out of proportion, an absolute gimmick. Big gold clock? It seems to be a celebration of money and not a celebration of architecture at all. It's textbook bad taste, so hardly something to be proud of.

Are you joking? It looks vile, out of proportion, an absolute gimmick. Big gold clock? It seems to be a celebration of money and not a celebration of architecture at all. It's textbook bad taste, so hardly something to be proud of.

You don't like it, but many love it. My friend was proud that people liked the project and that he was a source of info. You are writing as if he forced you to be proud :lol:

great update "IBIB" :D

^^ It's ibib, not capitalized:nuts:

^^

dame it :rant:

why ur name is difficult for me why why ..?? :wallbash:

great update ibib :lol:

I am really happy and proud that you all like this project now.

I remember when I joined this thread and updated the details of this project about the new heights, no one believed me and asked for proves then I updated this thread and posted first picture for the clock, most comments here were YUK. out of the scale !!!!!!!!!!!

Now after posting the details of the clock and the new height, you all are happy and like it now even without asking for proves for the new height.

first of all, thanks for the trust and secondly I am really proud to be the source for the details of this great project. thanks guys

Kudos to you for the regular updates and info.
It's a most awesome project.

wait till shanghai tower rises above street level. then you will see real 632m, no spire, clocks, antennas, crescents or whatever decoration today's supertall have. ;)

Not really. Shanghai Tower is only like 1830~ft. to the roof. 2073ft. is to the spire. Of all the new megatalls coming up, I think that the most "real" roof height would be Golden Finnance 117 in Tianjin which rises 1959ft. and has a sort of atrium in the top. But even that cheats a little. :|
They all cheat, think about it,
Pingan IFC: big spire
Shanghai tower: spire incorporated into the building design
Abraj al Bait Towers: big spire and crescent
China 117: rooftop crown
Barwa Tower: huge crown incorporated in the building
Dynamix Balwas Tower: huge spire
1 World Trade Center: huge spire
Pentominium: small crown/spire
Qatar National Bank Headquarters: rooftop spire
Federation Towers: enormous spire
That pretty much covers all u/c megatalls in the world, and in truth they all cheat somewhat. ;)

Hong Kong ICC
GZ West Tower

These both have no spire

Not really. Shanghai Tower is only like 1830~ft. to the roof. 2073ft. is to the spire. Of all the new megatalls coming up, I think that the most "real" roof height would be Golden Finnance 117 in Tianjin which rises 1959ft. and has a sort of atrium in the top. But even that cheats a little. :|



^^ yes, but the shanghai doesn't have an actual spire so it will look its true hight.

and none of this has anything to do with making money...right ?

you will know what's the time : )

This may come across as sarcastic.....but I really mean if we can all live together in this small world I will be very happy.

and none of this has anything to do with making money...right ?

you will know what's the time : )

This may come across as sarcastic.....but I really mean if we can all live together in this small world I will be very happy.

all the money earned goes to the matinance of the holy mosque :)

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/6158/50384762.gif

its too thick to be called a spear.. i think there will be a lot of speakers on stuff on it. & the crescent is probably the only spear there ?

plus there is an observation deck right under the crescent which doesn't make it a spear, "who ever heard of an observation deck on top of a spear anyway?" :nuts:

Not really. Shanghai Tower is only like 1830~ft. to the roof. 2073ft. is to the spire. Of all the new megatalls coming up, I think that the most "real" roof height would be Golden Finnance 117 in Tianjin which rises 1959ft. and has a sort of atrium in the top. But even that cheats a little. :|
They all cheat, think about it,
Pingan IFC: big spire
Shanghai tower: spire incorporated into the building design
Abraj al Bait Towers: big spire and crescent
China 117: rooftop crown
Barwa Tower: huge crown incorporated in the building
Dynamix Balwas Tower: huge spire
1 World Trade Center: huge spire
Pentominium: small crown/spire
Qatar National Bank Headquarters: rooftop spire
Federation Towers: enormous spire
That pretty much covers all u/c megatalls in the world, and in truth they all cheat somewhat. ;)

i know what you mean, but as Eastern37 correctly stated, ST will have an integrated crown which will appear to be a full part of the building. of course many towers "cheat" their way up, but on the other side there are perfectly good examples of real height:

- ICC, HK
- 2 IFC, HK
- SWFC, shanghai
- west tower, guangzhou
- china WTC III, beijing
- ...
sorry for going OT. :)

Actually SWFC's elevated observation deck could be seen as cheating, too. ;)

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whoaa its really HUGE!

Can't stand the inpatient behavior of ppl in this thread. It took 2/3 days before the thread title was changed. What is the big deal?

^^

i think they just got enthusiastic with the project :lol:

I concur with Ni3lS that the drama was a bit over the top, but nothing unforgivable, overenthusiasm is human nature. ;)

Can't stand the inpatient behavior of ppl in this thread. It took 2/3 days before the thread title was changed. What is the big deal?

It also was never changed from 595m to 591m when the height change was announced. 2-3 days is a long time on the Internet, anyway

I believe this thread should be "sticky" as burj dubai!!! why? because it is unique.

Why burj dubai thread is sticky? because it is the world's tallest building.

Why abraj al bait should be sticky? because:

1- it has the biggest clock in the world.
2- it is the largest building in the world.
3- it is the second tallest building in the world.

I believe it is unique also and one more thing. it will be completed in few months so it deserves to be checked regulary. Guys, we will not see such clock or biggesr one before 10 years at least. Our world is not building such clock every few years. IT IS UNIQUE

Just a point of view!! hope you all agree with it.

I believe this thread should be "sticky" as burj dubai!!! why? because it is unique.

Why burj dubai thread is sticky? because it is the world's tallest building.

Why abraj al bait should be sticky? because:

1- it has the biggest clock in the world.
2- it is the largest building in the world.
3- it is the second tallest building in the world.

I believe it is unique also and one more thing. it will be completed in few months so it deserves to be checked regulary. Guys, we will not see such clock or biggesr one before 10 years at least. Our world is not building such clock every few years. IT IS UNIQUE

Just a point of view!! hope you all agree with it.

From my point of view it's also one of the ugliest supertalls ever and that is why it should not be sticky.

If we made a sticky for every little record that a building might break there'd be a whole page full of stickies.

Shanghai Tower - Highest observation deck
Sky Tree - Tallest tower
Infinity Tower - Tallest twisting tower
Pentominium - Tallest residential
Canton Tower - Tallest hyperbolic structure
Dubai Pearl - Tallest cluster connected at the top
...

I believe this thread should be "sticky" as burj dubai!!! why? because it is unique.

Why burj dubai thread is sticky? because it is the world's tallest building.

Why abraj al bait should be sticky? because:

1- it has the biggest clock in the world.
2- it is the largest building in the world.
3- it is the second tallest building in the world.

I believe it is unique also and one more thing. it will be completed in few months so it deserves to be checked regulary. Guys, we will not see such clock or biggesr one before 10 years at least. Our world is not building such clock every few years. IT IS UNIQUE

Just a point of view!! hope you all agree with it.

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Okay, can you please get a voice recorder and record that for me? It'll give me days, no, weeks of entertainment! Congratulations, this comment made my day! hahaha