Is there a sixth piece of crescent to install on the left side (from the front) of the spire?

It looks slightly lopsided in the above pictures.

Its because the picture wasn't taken directly in front of the front clock :bash:

http://www.9m.com/upfiles/K8349351.jpg

Epic!

So this thing has reached it's full height and the crescent is complete!? :D

I don't know much but it appears their is another piece or two in the renders

^^
No there's not.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5191/5852879752_6060bd51f2_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/emmadz/5852879752/)
Crescent Render (http://www.flickr.com/photos/emmadz/5852879752/) by EZ-Cool-Dude (http://www.flickr.com/people/emmadz/), on Flickr

:banana::banana::cucumber:
مباااارك عليكم هذا الانجاز
بحق مشروع اكثر من رائع
:cucumber::cucumber::banana:

Awesome!
Shall we change the status to T/O? :cheers:

CHANGE THE THREAD NAME TO
MECCA | Abraj Al-Bait Endowment | 601m | 1972ft | 95 fl | T/O

i like this building :)

Great! It is topped out, now. So the next title for the largest hotel goes to Mecca?

wooooooooooooowooooooooooooo :clown::clown::clown::clown::pepper::pepper::pepper::pepper::clown::clown::clown:

Oh my God :carrot::carrot::carrot:

Congratulations to Saudi Arabia :okay::okay:
Congratulations to my Country :applause::applause:
I Love MECCA :nuts:

Saudi Arabia
To the first world soon :?

:applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:

Holy crap this is a marvelous piece of architecture :o

I think we still have end caps to go on both ends of crescent which will increase height little more.

good thing if this building completed before Ramadhan

It won't be done that soon, but at least the Crescent will be there.

Had lunch with and befriended the project manager of this project the other day, told me all the exterior works will be completed by November :yes:

I think we still have end caps to go on both ends of crescent which will increase height little more.


I think so too, so it is not T/O. If there where no caps would there be holes at each end?

Hi all.

THIRD??!!!! :sly:

Hi Makkawi.

Yes ... third tallest freestanding structure on the planet (at this time).

1 - Burj Khalifa - 828 - Inaugurated - Not completed
2 - Tokyo Skytree - 634 - Topped out - Not completed
3 - Abraj Al Bait (Makkah Royal Clock Tower ?)- 601 - Topped out - Not completed
4 - Canton Tower - 600 - Completed (fully ?)
5 - CN Tower - 553 - Completed

Many changes to this list under construction. :banana:

:cheers:
Ray.

7/7

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/268482_2227687257702_1413421486_32633208_1644061_n.jpg

On Pakistani tv!

Makkah Clock Tower PKG

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Hi all.

Hi Makkawi.

Yes ... third tallest freestanding structure on the planet (at this time).

1 - Burj Khalifa - 828 - Inaugurated - Not completed
2 - Tokyo Skytree - 634 - Topped out - Not completed
3 - Abraj Al Bait (Makkah Royal Clock Tower ?)- 601 - Topped out - Not completed
4 - Canton Tower - 600 - Completed (fully ?)
5 - CN Tower - 553 - Completed

Many changes to this list under construction. :banana:

:cheers:
Ray.

Bk is not completed? I thought people have been slowly occupying commercial space for 2 years now

Fury, Canton Tower is up and running. It was completed for the Asia Games.

Hi all.

Bk is not completed? I thought people have been slowly occupying commercial space for 2 years now

Hi Dirty.

No - not completed.
Put your question in the BK thread if your interested.
I don't want to go completely OT here. :lol:

:cheers:
Ray.

insulting remark about the questionable taste of the architect of this building removed

just wondering if the spire/ crescent would require polishing?

Very impressive ,congratulations!!

It won't be done that soon, but at least the Crescent will be there.

What caps?

Hi all.



Hi Makkawi.

Yes ... third tallest freestanding structure on the planet (at this time).

1 - Burj Khalifa - 828 - Inaugurated - Not completed
2 - Tokyo Skytree - 634 - Topped out - Not completed
3 - Abraj Al Bait (Makkah Royal Clock Tower ?)- 601 - Topped out - Not completed
4 - Canton Tower - 600 - Completed (fully ?)
5 - CN Tower - 553 - Completed

Many changes to this list under construction. :banana:

:cheers:
Ray.

I thought the sky tree was behind the clock tower in construction :(

just wondering if the spire/ crescent would require polishing?

Nope, it will be cladded with gold-plates (you can see them in recent pics) and glass acc. to renders

I thought the sky tree was behind the clock tower in construction :(

it was, but Skytree is just a steel structure (mostly) it only needed assembly. so it went faster.

http://www.9m.com/upfiles/K8349351.jpg

Damn. Those two guys are brave. :cheers:

So are we changing this thread's title to topped out?

6 July 2011

http://www.upislam.com/images/63143260431210908747.jpg (http://www.upislam.com/)

http://www.upislam.com/images/57739455683706612426.jpg (http://www.upislam.com/)

http://www.upislam.com/images/73071133047105626496.jpg (http://www.upislam.com/)

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http://www.upislam.com/images/58039898362210645807.jpg (http://www.upislam.com/)

6 July 2011

http://www.upislam.com/images/44505032701307320727.jpg (http://www.upislam.com/)

http://www.upislam.com/images/52428853385218954433.jpg (http://www.upislam.com/)

http://www.upislam.com/images/68800154239701749001.jpg (http://www.upislam.com/)

http://www.upislam.com/images/16317520780819040789.jpg (http://www.upislam.com/)

http://www.upislam.com/images/68646905350667670510.jpg (http://www.upislam.com/)

http://www.upislam.com/images/71255659523131291829.jpg (http://www.upislam.com/)

http://www.upislam.com/images/98957991081034090473.jpg (http://www.upislam.com/)

http://www.upislam.com/images/92922307940708813498.jpg (http://www.upislam.com/)

Amazing updates...thanks! :)

Inaugurating the clock tower in mid 2010, Saudi officials said they hoped it would establish Makkah as an alternate time standard to the Greenwich median.

http://www.emirates247.com/news/region/world-s-largest-gold-minaret-set-up-in-saudi-2011-07-06-1.406228Can anyone expand upon this? I've seen similar references in other articles but can't understand what they mean by an "alternate time standard."

stunning

6 July 2011


http://www.upislam.com/images/68646905350667670510.jpg (http://www.upislam.com/)


:banana2: :)

That crescent is totally impressive, probably the best tower top I've seen, all other towers are topped simply with a spire or antenna, and that has become too ordinary.
It's not finshed yet right? it seems there are 2 piezes left to finish it.

priceless pictures <3 when are they going to install the telescope? any idea?

priceless pictures <3 when are they going to install the telescope? any idea?I think it's already there ...see the dome next to the crane...ok maybe the telescope is not in now

http://www.upislam.com/images/95323326629667900671.jpg (http://www.upislam.com/)

http://www.upislam.com/images/07439358481224922364.jpg (http://www.upislam.com/)

http://www.upislam.com/images/40980210009539482906.jpg (http://www.upislam.com/)

http://center.jeddahbikers.com/download.php?img=390171

yes very brave workers up on the cresent ,still wonderin what are the holes at the under side of the curve for ,water ?

Wow. Come to think of it, that's the second tallest building. (Don't you dare say duh)

Hi all.

Hi Dirty.

No - not completed.
Put your question in the BK thread if your interested.
I don't want to go completely OT here. :lol:

:cheers:
Ray.

To sum up a small brief OT conversation you were correct I researched and bk is still UC....

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6022/5909916947_207fb3789f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alzyan/5909916947/)
هنا مكة (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alzyan/5909916947/) par mohamed alzyan (محمد آل زيان ) (http://www.flickr.com/people/alzyan/), sur Flickr

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هنا مكة (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alzyan/5909916943/) par mohamed alzyan (محمد آل زيان ) (http://www.flickr.com/people/alzyan/), sur Flickr

Masallah :cheers:

Sukran !!!

Thanks Youssef...I enjoy your pic! :)

http://www.9m.com/upfiles/SOC76814.jpg

The Joy of Achievement :D
of the malaysian team workers

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Congradulations!

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^^ ما شاء الله
congrats, very nice tower.

:banana:T/O-PARTY:banana:
:cheers:

Will the tips of the crescent remain hollow?

Though I don't really like this tower ;Roukaya19 ' pic is awesome :)

Souvenir available on flickr!

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6025/5913397185_c741008366_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/y2020y/5913397185/)
Crescent6 - هلال برج الساعة (http://www.flickr.com/photos/y2020y/5913397185/) par Youssef_Ahmed (http://www.flickr.com/people/y2020y/), sur Flickr

Tallest golden minaret in the world
stands on top of Makkah Clock Tower

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Okaz/Saudi Gazette - 6 July 2011

MAKKAH – The tallest golden minaret in the world, which has been erected on top of the Makkah Clock Tower, will broadcast the call for prayer (Adhan) from the Grand Mosque in Makkah through special loudspeakers that will carry the sounds to people almost 7 kilometers away.

On special Islamic occasions, such as the beginning of the Hijri months and Eids, 16 special vertical lights will flash 10 kilometers into the sky.

During the Adhan, 21,000 lamps on the highest point on Makkah Clock send brilliant white and green lights to the sky; they can be seen from a distance of 30 kilometers. The lights indicate the beginning of time for prayer, especially for people with special needs such as those with weak hearing and those far away from the Grand Mosque.

The Makkah Clock Tower stands 601 meters. The height of the clock from its base to the highest point at the peak of the crescent is 251 meters.

The tower’s height makes it the world’s second-tallest building after the 828-meter Burj Khalifa in Dubai. The clock, which began showing time about 11 months ago, is part of the structure that cost some SR11 billion to construct, officials have said.

The front and rear of the four faces are 43 meters by 43 meters and the two side faces are 43 meters by 39 meters.

“Allahu Akbar” (Allah is the Greatest), in Arabic, can be seen on the top part of the clock.

The letter “Alif” in “Allah” is more than 23 meters tall and the crescent, with a 23-meter diameter, is the largest crescent ever made.

The two testimonies, “There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is His Prophet,” can be seen at the top of the two side faces of the clock, which has been designed in an Islamic style, according to the most precise Islamic criteria.

The clock, which weighs 36,000 tons, is more than six times larger in diameter than London’s famed Big Ben.

During the day its face is white and the indicators are black. At night, the face changes to green and the indicators change to white.

More than 90 million pieces of colored glass mosaic embellish the sides of the clock, which is visible from all corners of the city, SPA has said. Elevators will take visitors up to a huge viewing balcony just underneath the faces, a four-story astronomical observatory and an Islamic museum. The Clock Tower is the landmark feature of the seven-tower King Abdulaziz Endowment hotel complex. The project is part of efforts to develop the old city and make it more capable of catering to pilgrims.

The clock reflects a goal by some Muslims to replace the 127-year-old Universal Time standard – originally called Greenwich Mean Time – with Makkah Mean Time.

At a conference in Doha in 2008, Muslim clerics and scholars said Makkah time is the true global meridian. They said Makkah is the center of the world and that the Greenwich standard was imposed by the West in 1884.

http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentID=20110705104543

^^^^some interesting stuff i didnt know before, nice :)

At a conference in Doha in 2008, Muslim clerics and scholars said Makkah time is the true global meridian. They said Makkah is the center of the world and that the Greenwich standard was imposed by the West in 1884.

I lol'd at this.

I lol'd at this.

Islam can use whatever meridian they want for the clock. Rest assured, if they were to go that route there will be an app for that in no time.

TOPPED OUT NOW !!! :)

On Pakistani tv!

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lol @ the music

Now that the crescent is on, the tower looks even more beautiful than before! Very pretty pictures.

The clock reflects a goal by some Muslims to replace the 127-year-old Universal Time standard – originally called Greenwich Mean Time – with Makkah Mean Time.

At a conference in Doha in 2008, Muslim clerics and scholars said Makkah time is the true global meridian. They said Makkah is the center of the world and that the Greenwich standard was imposed by the West in 1884.This is dissappointing enough I'm compelled to comment. GMT wasn't "imposed" but was an agreed upon, scientific measure to enable global synchronization. Those that didn't adopt it at first came aboard after seeing the benefits of a universal standard. Thus, if these clerics are serious then they'd also be hypocritical based upon their desire to impose on everyone else a new standard, and based on religion at that.

Leaves a sour taste in my mouth as I view that clock, now. :bash:

Leaves a sour taste in my mouth as I view that clock, now. :bash:

Oh, it's still running at GMT+3, so save your sour taste until they change it, that is IF they will change it. :)

This is dissappointing enough I'm compelled to comment. GMT wasn't "imposed" but was an agreed upon, scientific measure to enable global synchronization. Those that didn't adopt it at first came aboard after seeing the benefits of a universal standard. Thus, if these clerics are serious then they'd also be hypocritical based upon their desire to impose on everyone else a new standard, and based on religion at that.

Leaves a sour taste in my mouth as I view that clock, now. :bash:

Here, HERE!

Let's all think back to what the world was like in 1884 and where the center of shipping, industrialization and commerce (For the world) was based out of.

Now, with that image in mind... Why would anyone at that time, (trying to synchronize shipping times and arrivals of valuable goods for an entire continent) have chosen a sand swept, sparsely populated, religious outpost as the prime meridian?

There was no Worldwide commerce being done in Makkah at the time and no need for a standardized timetable centered on their location. It is only the center of the Muslim World and Allah doesn't care what time it is.

If the Muslim World wants to change their standard, they are welcome to. The rest of the World will use the time that is most convenient to them and one that would not require billions of dollars, in wasted money, to implement.

Oh, it's still running at GMT+3, so save your sour taste until they change it, that is IF they will change it. :)Yes...that is IF they will change it!

Last year they made a poll on this and only 15% of muslims agreed to change the time.

^^ So calm down people! :)

^^ That's good. It wouldn't resonate well with the rest of the world if they did.

Last year they made a poll on this and only 15% of muslims agreed to change the time.
Which is nice to hear, but it's never the lay public of any culture that worries me. ;)

^^ So calm down people! :) No worries from me, mate. :cheers:

Congratulations on T/O!!

and this thread still U/C until now ?? what are you waiting for ? it's T/O !!

even wikipedia is faster : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraj_Al_Bait_Towers

:gaah:

:gaah:

:lol: they're waitig for some imaginary 'crescent caps'.
:gaah: :lol:

Very, very beautiful scraper!!!

Thanks for the update, mods please change the title, wikipedia says it's T/O!

:lol: they're waitig for some imaginary 'crescent caps'.


You're right, there's something missing on the crescent, I can't believe they were just going to plug the tips of it.

Yay, finally topped out! Congratulations. :cheers:

On Pakistani tv!

Makkah Clock Tower PKG

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I hate this channel, they stole all of asyiqul^huur and Yousef's work. :sly: :bash:

I hate this channel, they stole all of asyiqul^huur and Yousef's work. :sly: :bash:Yah! I was surprise!!!!...means they are on SSC!

Youssef Ahmed video!
Makkah Crescent Timelapse

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Youssef Ahmed video!
Stages of Intallation of the Crescent

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I was about to post this. What took you so long?
The crane man parying at 550+ m Subhan Allah

Check out my additions to the article (crescent and Article pic) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraj_Al_Bait_Towers
I also added the Clock section, the fire section and the gallery a long time ago.
:banana:

Yah! I was surprise!!!!...means they are on SSC!

not necessarily, its not hard to search these pics on google.

I was about to post this. What took you so long?
The crane man parying at 550+ m Subhan AllahBizzy..and I hoped he makes some change, and I wanted to review it, give my critic to Youssef,...part 5 it's written 2011_07_20...but it's not 20...it's 6!

It's a great video, nice to see

Check out my additions to the article (crescent and Article pic) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraj_Al_Bait_Towers
I also added the Clock section, the fire section and the gallery a long time ago.
:banana:OoOo! you did this! good!

Bizzy..and I hoped he makes some change, and I wanted to review it, give my critic to Youssef,...part 5 it's written 2011_07_20...but it's not 20...it's 6!

It's a great video, nice to see

OoOo! you did this! good!

yeah its 6 and he's acknowledged that on his youtube channel. The second part still confuses me. What happened on the first lift? Fast winds?

And Thank You :)

yeah its 6 and he's acknowledged that on his youtube channel. The second part still confuses me. What happened on the first lift? Fast winds?

And Thank You :)Ok I just saw this on YT....first lift? winds? I don't know but you are in Makkah not me to know this... up there could be different, the piece is moving a lot maybe winds.

Ok I just saw this on YT....first lift? winds? I don't know but you are in Makkah not me to know this... up there could be different, the piece is moving a lot maybe winds.

The second part of the crescent was liftes, it kept striking with the balls, it was put down, and lifted again the next day

when is the rest of the cladding supposed to finish and when will the biggest complex on earth open?

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/hadeelfaisal/5917074351/in/photostream/

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/hadeelfaisal/5917058181/in/photostream/

Check out my additions to the article (crescent and Article pic) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraj_Al_Bait_Towers
I also added the Clock section, the fire section and the gallery a long time ago.
:banana:

But for all the records of the "Biggest's and Firsts and Tallest's" The Wikipedia article still doesn't mention that it will have the highest public observation platform (just under the crescent) at 570m.

:ohno:

But for all the records of the "Biggest's and Firsts and Tallest's" The Wikipedia article still doesn't mention that it will have the highest public observation platform (just under the crescent) at 570m.

:ohno:

You need references for this kind of info, I don't have any. References like newspaper articles

when is the rest of the cladding supposed to finish and when will the biggest complex on earth open?

I've asked the same question a long time ago ,but nobody found the answer .. So, it maybe a secret :ohno:

USA might be the birth place of modern skyscrapers, but, according to wikipedia, at the moment USA gets only one place in the top ten tallest buildings in the world (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_the_world), that too barely. all nine others goes to Asia :)

even in the top 20, USA gets only 3 places, all other places goes, once again, to Asia. :)
while China (along with Hong Kong) gets the most of it (9 out of top 20) Middle East also has a fair share :)

Who cares which country have the most, in my opinion Asia and especially the Middle East got the ugliest skyscrapers.

^^I wouldn't disagree with that, but Asia, especially China also has some of the most beautiful.

I agree there are some really beautiful buildings there ( BoC is one of my favourite buildings :) ) but a lot of ugly ones.

BTT : Does nobody know when the complex'll be open?

when is the rest of the cladding supposed to finish and when will the biggest complex on earth open?

According to egypt69:

Had lunch with and befriended the project manager of this project the other day, told me all the exterior works will be completed by November :yes:

So I guess the inauguration would be somewhere in the new year.

Youssef Ahmed made some change in the video
Makkah Crescent Timelapse

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In the Crescent at Night!

(in malaysian)

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Photos by Lutfi Lokman

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Thanks Nice pics Lutfi!

Makkah Clock Tower
as at 10th July 2011 - no sound

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Crescent Mosque - Masjid Al Haram

http://www.upislam.com/images/16317520780819040789.jpg

At the Time of the Installation of a Crescent of the Mosque
Sorry it's not the same

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will mecca clock tower has a observation deck?
can tourists reach the crescent to watch the whole city?

will mecca clock tower has a observation deck?
can tourists reach the crescent to watch the whole city?

-Observation Deck? Two of them, one under clock, one under crescent.
-Under the crescent? :yes:, IN the crescent? :dunno:

Two quick questions about the project. How come the thread still refers this to U/C and not T/O? Also, will the two ends of the crescent be hollow, or are they going to cover it up somehow? THANKS!!!

Two quick questions about the project. How come the thread still refers this to U/C and not T/O? Also, will the two ends of the crescent be hollow, or are they going to cover it up somehow? THANKS!!!

the moderators of this thread think that the two ends will be covered and hence the height will increase, thats why its still U/C on this threar and T/O on skyscraperpage and wikipedia :dunno:

of course you can't leave the ends open in case of a rain, that'll be one WET skyscraper :lol:

i guess they will need to put a lightning conductor?

The most I like the clock on this tower :)

i guess they will need to put a lightning conductor?

isn't the whole spire a lighting conductor?

Not really. Lightning conductor is made different.

-Observation Deck? Two of them, one under clock, one under crescent.
-Under the crescent? :yes:, IN the crescent? :dunno:
Thank you ,I see.
And what is the height of the observation deck which under crescent?
Is it higher than 580 meters?

Is it higher than 580 meters?

yes, almost 590

This thing looks like the lair of the Lunataks from the Thundercats.

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Tacky, Ugly, Vomit Inducing, Vegas meets Mecca, Eyesore, Big Ben Rip-off, Worlds Most Hideous Building.

I can see why so many of you like it.

Abraj Al-Bait - :puke:

yes, almost 590
the crescent is 23m
the tower is 601m
so the observation deck under the crescent cant higher than 570m
I think it s about 560m:)

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A wonderful tower
A fantastic tower

http://www.hajjmabrur.net/blog/en/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Clock-Tower-Deluxe-Hotels-5-Star-Makkah-Hotels-Makkah-Clock-Haram-Kaabah-View-Pilgrims-Hajj-Umrah-towers_compare.jpg
mecca clock tower is the second tallest building of the world!

Don't worry, it will always be Number 1 Ugliest.

No me gusta

Let be jealous of this building to some people ....but this building rocks......

yes, almost 590

according to culwulla's diagrams its below 570

So the clock tower is just a spire short of burj khalifa
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i agree it is ugly and very trashy but i can't help but love it lol

i don't think its ugly.. Its a great building with a lot of detail.. Not some concrete building with some glass on the side

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mecca clock tower is the second tallest building of the world!

That's a significant exaggeration of the Abraj Al Bait's height. You have it topping out half-way between Burj and SWFC. For that to be true, Abraj Al Bait would have to be 677m tall. You added about 250' to it.


This is the correct scale. It's still the 2nd tallest building in the world right now (and the 1st ugliest), but you'd need at least two entire spires to get to the top of Burj.

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Not my taste at all, it might even be concisered tacky, but on the other hand its very detailed (unlike the new WTC). Its also built totally in style like the old days, in a couple of years some tourists might think its been here for hundred of years. Oh, and: ITS FREAKING TALL!!!!! :)

What a lovely building! :)

Looks like a classic church tower. Also the proportions of the whole complex are just terrible and tasteless.

I noticed that quite a few of the green LED's on the clock face are already out? LED's should last a long time, certainly not just a few months. How difficult is it to replace them?

In the Crescent at Night!

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I noticed that quite a few of the green LED's on the clock face are already out? LED's should last a long time, certainly not just a few months. How difficult is it to replace them?

Its been running now for almost a year now, how more should the last?? I don't its hard to replace them.:banana::banana::banana:

I thought LED's lasted 20000 hours minimum. That's (12 hours lighted per day) 4-5 years.

I found this:

Properly designed LEDs are wonderful for places that are hard to reach, since they last so much longer than halogen or CFL bulbs. How long they actually will last is hard to tell exactly, since in theory it will take tens of thousands of hours to reach the end of their life (or longer). Because of this, lighting companies are forced to test the bulbs using acceleration techniques to simulate years of life in a short amount of time.
LED bulbs last longer because they don’t have the same issues that standard bulbs do. They simply don’t have the parts (filaments, igniters, etc) that other bulbs do that break and cause a bulb to burn out. Since there are no super fragile parts and there is no breakdown that naturally occurs, they keep working for years and years.

In fact, when most companies list and average life for an LED, they refer to a time when the light produced by the bulb will diminish to 70% of the original maximum brightness. The bulb itself will continue to work well beyond that time frame.

I noticed that quite a few of the green LED's on the clock face are already out? LED's should last a long time, certainly not just a few months. How difficult is it to replace them?Must be easy to replace...but maybe hard, long, to check each light.

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That's a lot of bulbs! Times 4! Thanks for that picture.

Just great... fantastic tower, congratulation Mecca!!!

Viva Las Vegas baby!

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What is the floor area of the complex?

Anyways... gold painted sheet is still a sheet :)

Looks like a classic church tower. Also the proportions of the whole complex are just terrible and tasteless.

I think the proportions and lack of surrounding reference points make it hard to appreciate how abnormally tall and massive this complex really is.

Tacky as it may seem now, that may be forgotten in future and it could become one of the landmarks and wonders of the region. Hope it ages well.

Yeah I agree with you. This style of architecture is neither easy to comprehed (for me) nor appreciate. I´m fond of modern looking glassy skyscrapers (like Shanghai Tower) :)

Amazing Skyscraper!

PD: Moder is not only glassy skyscrapers :nuts:

I did not say that modern skyscrapers are only glassy :) But the indisputable fact is that this building will make the city work more smoothly - you know, there´s alot of ppl on hajj and they carry a lot of trash etc.

The worst of Postmodernism and Stalinism combined to produce a truly dreadful building that is the epitome of vulgarity and bad taste. :ohno:

The worst of Postmodernism and Stalinism combined to produce a truly dreadful building that is the epitome of vulgarity and bad taste. :ohno:Stalinism? Curious as to how to build that association. Take away the traditional elements of skyscraper form and conventional Arabian architecture and I'm not making the connection.

Looks like a classic church tower. Also the proportions of the whole complex are just terrible and tasteless.I'm among those noting the clock tower and spire are out of proportion with the skyscraper as a whole, which I think stands in contrast to classic church towers (or civic buildings, for that matter). But even though the style isn't my preference I can't go so far as to say "tasteless." I'll leave that to the residents of the city to decide.

Normally I abhore re-posting oversized pics, but I found this perspective fascinating. I didn't realize how the structure literally turns a blind eye to the back side! Granted, there may be ownership or structural restrictions prohibiting such, but the result shows an imbalance to the design: As if they don't want anyone to view it save from the front. Curious.
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i cannot understand how people think this is ugly, it has all, it has the largest floor area, it suits its perfect and as a hotel it is in fact needed instead of some buildings in dubai for example, it is unique of course, it has a classical architecture that so many people miss in glassy buildings, it has size, and its not a normal boring spire but something that actually fits to its location. :banana:

Normally I abhore re-posting oversized pics, but I found this perspective fascinating. I didn't realize how the structure literally turns a blind eye to the back side! Granted, there may be ownership or structural restrictions prohibiting such, but the result shows an imbalance to the design: As if they don't want anyone to view it save from the front. Curious.

this is what will happen to the back side

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^^ Thanks, abu!

Methinks that's too much, actually, and begins to detract from what they've achieved with the primary tower. I like the form of the three buildings that would abut the clock tower, but think they should be lowered to at least 2/3 their height, IMO. The rest of the development should help the project flow with the surrounding cityscape, not rise out of it like a ship that's run ashore.

this is like a man made mountain :)

Stalinism? Curious as to how to build that association. Take away the traditional elements of skyscraper form and conventional Arabian architecture and I'm not making the connection.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5e/Palac_Nauki.jpg

it has the largest floor area

That doesnt make building beautiful.

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^^ Thanks, abu!

Methinks that's too much, actually, and begins to detract from what they've achieved with the primary tower. I like the form of the three buildings that would abut the clock tower, but think they should be lowered to at least 2/3 their height, IMO. The rest of the development should help the project flow with the surrounding cityscape, not rise out of it like a ship that's run ashore.

everyone wants it to be better in looks, but the priority here is to accommodate more in a small space, (Makkah gets millions of pilgrims every year, that's what these towers are all about)

Normally I abhore re-posting oversized pics, but I found this perspective fascinating. I didn't realize how the structure literally turns a blind eye to the back side! Granted, there may be ownership or structural restrictions prohibiting such, but the result shows an imbalance to the design: As if they don't want anyone to view it save from the front. Curious.

I think its designed to face masjid-al-haraam. Thats why the back side feels alone, but believe me, even from back its mind blowing.

I think that El Greco meant this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinist_skyscrapers

it's the ugly and cheesy version of Mole Littoria by italoargentinean architect Mario Palanti:

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I really love this tower, and your post just made it even more beautiful for me.

Nowadays almost all new skyscrapers are of glass. Here in the Netherlands where I live there is the saying:
onbekend maakt onbemind, which in English translates to:

Unknown makes unloved

(Maybe this saying also exists in English but I've never heard it)

Probably this is the reason many people do not like it, if most buildings in the world were build in this style this would probably be one of the best in this
architectural style

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5e/Palac_Nauki.jpgGotcha. I tend to view Stalinist style for more the minimalism of the period (the mass housing) rather than the select towers with heavy gothic feel. But I understand what you're saying.
I think its designed to face masjid-al-haraam. Thats why the back side feels alone, but believe me, even from back its mind blowing.I don't doubt that, but it udoubtedly takes on a different character when viewed as a singular wall or mass when compared to the front with it's juxtaposition of the differing towers. Impressive, but different.
it's the ugly and cheesy version of Mole Littoria by italoargentinean architect Mario Palanti: I get the allusion, but I find it funny to compare an artists' fanciful vision, particularly one from a different era, to that of a practical work of today. The constraints and demands of modern architecture are decidedly different, and any number of great designers have offered how and why they must compromise their ideal vision in order to suit the demands of the builder/owner. (Especially considering how often realized buildings can so differ from the conceptual imagery.) I think we also need to account for the differences between pure gothic stylings and the Arabian ornamtentation seen here. Definitely drawing from the historic design ethos, but obviously not trying to be just gothic, either. Thankfully.

One man's opinion, anyway. Nice pic, btw.

it's the ugly and cheesy version of Mole Littoria by italoargentinean architect Mario Palanti:

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/3381/4130650013323eb5aa56o.jpg

seriously? you think THAT is is similar and more beautiful than THIS?:ohno:


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funny taste you have :cheers:

^^ actually it looks way better :)

beautiful tower, fuck pessimists :)

I really love this tower, and your post just made it even more beautiful for me.

Nowadays almost all new skyscrapers are of glass. Here in the Netherlands where I live there is the saying:
onbekend maakt onbemind, which in English translates to:
Unknown makes unloved

(Maybe this saying also exists in English but I've never heard it)

Probably this is the reason many people do not like it, if most buildings in the world were build in this style this would probably be one of the best in this
architectural style

I think people don't like it because:

- it's out of scale. Because of its proportions, I've had always impression as it is being build by some giants not by people. Even burj khalifa even though is taller is still of human scale. And the clock tower is located in relatively small city surrounded by hills. It really looks grotesque when it is surrounded so close be the hills that are three times lower that the tower itself. In many pictures it is simply self explanatory, like on the one just posted by GunnerJacket. And it's not the height itself what makes it so bad, but also the fact that the tower rises with not a slightest transition of hight to the freaking 600m from the density of small crowded buildings. I think this tower with its rectangular footprint might of look quite well in the manhatan-style cluster filled with arabic style goldish boxy towers, but not in the very low city surrounded so closely by mountains. They can add some surroundings to the tower to make some transition in the future but they are limited with hills so they will never make big enough cluster of towers. Also the projects like this huge wall of towers on the back side of clock tower is not helping.

- it has wrong proportions. The tower is extremely fat all the way up, and under the clock it gets thin almost instantly. It just can't look right. Whats more from the side of the tower (again pic posted by GunnerJacket) the tower is thinner than on front, but the clock is the same and that also looks very wrong. The very fact that boxy tower with spire has rectangular footprint instead of square doesn't seem right.

- it takes the the model of clock tower from extremely different culture and incorporates it in what suppose to be the Arabic landmark in the center of the Arabic world. I thing that itself for some is the biggest fail of this tower. It would be very similar like putting statue of liberty or Eiffel tower with the crescent on top of it in the center of Mecca. And yes it does look like big ben. Not a long time ago I showed it to my cousin that has no interest on skyscrapers about his first impression. Big Ben was his fast answer with no hesitation ;)

- the crescent - well, this is the symbol of Islam and one would argue that it should fit the tower of mecca perfectly. But because it is put on the tower which shape is taken from the European architecture it doesn't seem right. Crescents looks great on the minarets, but on the bigger brother of big ben? Really? I totally understand those calling it big ben with horns. That just looks silly. Maybe we will use to it with time, who knows?

To not to be so negative I can say what I really like about this tower is its complexity and rare/unique technical features used which not necessarily makes it more beautiful, but at least construction itself is quite interesting I have to admit that. Another thing is the quality of the materials and interiors. Not a doubt about that they are top notch.

Trying not to be ignorant I sometimes try to like it but there is so much wrong about it that, at least for now, I just can't. And apparently many people can't since it did lost in the first round of world cup so badly.

seriously? you think THAT is is similar and more beautiful than THIS?:ohno:


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funny taste you have :cheers:

Leave it bro

I think people don't like it because:

- it's out of scale. Because of its proportions, I've had always impression as it is being build by some giants not by people. Even burj khalifa even though is taller is still of human scale. And the clock tower is located in relatively small city surrounded by hills. It really looks grotesque when it is surrounded so close be the hills that are three times lower that the tower itself. In many pictures it is simply self explanatory, like on the one just posted by GunnerJacket. And it's not the height itself what makes it so bad, but also the fact that the tower rises with not a slightest transition of hight to the freaking 600m from the density of small crowded buildings. I think this tower with its rectangular footprint might of look quite well in the manhatan-style cluster filled with arabic style goldish boxy towers, but not in the very low city surrounded so closely by mountains. They can add some surroundings to the tower to make some transition in the future but they are limited with hills so they will never make big enough cluster of towers. Also the projects like this huge wall of towers on the back side of clock tower is not helping.

- it has wrong proportions. The tower is extremely fat all the way up, and under the clock it gets thin almost instantly. It just can't look right. Whats more from the side of the tower (again pic posted by GunnerJacket) the tower is thinner than on front, but the clock is the same and that also looks very wrong. The very fact that boxy tower with spire has rectangular footprint instead of square doesn't seem right.

- it takes the the model of clock tower from extremely different culture and incorporates it in what suppose to be the Arabic landmark in the center of the Arabic world. I thing that itself for some is the biggest fail of this tower. It would be very similar like putting statue of liberty or Eiffel tower with the crescent on top of it in the center of Mecca. And yes it does look like big ben. Not a long time ago I showed it to my cousin that has no interest on skyscrapers about his first impression. Big Ben was his fast answer with no hesitation ;)

- the crescent - well, this is the symbol of Islam and one would argue that it should fit the tower of mecca perfectly. But because it is put on the tower which shape is taken from the European architecture it doesn't seem right. Crescents looks great on the minarets, but on the bigger brother of big ben? Really? I totally understand those calling it big ben with horns. That just looks silly. Maybe we will use to it with time, who knows?

To not to be so negative I can say what I really like about this tower is its complexity and rare/unique technical features used which not necessarily makes it more beautiful, but at least construction itself is quite interesting I have to admit that. Another thing is the quality of the materials and interiors. Not a doubt about that they are top notch.

Trying not to be ignorant I sometimes try to like it but there is so much wrong about it that, at least for now, I just can't. And apparently many people can't since it did lost in the first round of world cup so badly.

a good criticism is rare here, thank you for your views, sir!
most people come here and throw garbage.
no building in the world will be same in beauty to everyone, that's why they say "tastes differ"

I think people don't like it because:

- it's out of scale. Because of its proportions, I've had always impression as it is being build by some giants not by people. Even burj khalifa even though is taller is still of human scale. And the clock tower is located in relatively small city surrounded by hills. It really looks grotesque when it is surrounded so close be the hills that are three times lower that the tower itself. In many pictures it is simply self explanatory, like on the one just posted by GunnerJacket. And it's not the height itself what makes it so bad, but also the fact that the tower rises with not a slightest transition of hight to the freaking 600m from the density of small crowded buildings. I think this tower with its rectangular footprint might of look quite well in the manhatan-style cluster filled with arabic style goldish boxy towers, but not in the very low city surrounded so closely by mountains. They can add some surroundings to the tower to make some transition in the future but they are limited with hills so they will never make big enough cluster of towers. Also the projects like this huge wall of towers on the back side of clock tower is not helping.

- it has wrong proportions. The tower is extremely fat all the way up, and under the clock it gets thin almost instantly. It just can't look right. Whats more from the side of the tower (again pic posted by GunnerJacket) the tower is thinner than on front, but the clock is the same and that also looks very wrong. The very fact that boxy tower with spire has rectangular footprint instead of square doesn't seem right.

- it takes the the model of clock tower from extremely different culture and incorporates it in what suppose to be the Arabic landmark in the center of the Arabic world. I thing that itself for some is the biggest fail of this tower. It would be very similar like putting statue of liberty or Eiffel tower with the crescent on top of it in the center of Mecca. And yes it does look like big ben. Not a long time ago I showed it to my cousin that has no interest on skyscrapers about his first impression. Big Ben was his fast answer with no hesitation ;)

- the crescent - well, this is the symbol of Islam and one would argue that it should fit the tower of mecca perfectly. But because it is put on the tower which shape is taken from the European architecture it doesn't seem right. Crescents looks great on the minarets, but on the bigger brother of big ben? Really? I totally understand those calling it big ben with horns. That just looks silly. Maybe we will use to it with time, who knows?

To not to be so negative I can say what I really like about this tower is its complexity and rare/unique technical features used which not necessarily makes it more beautiful, but at least construction itself is quite interesting I have to admit that. Another thing is the quality of the materials and interiors. Not a doubt about that they are top notch.

Trying not to be ignorant I sometimes try to like it but there is so much wrong about it that, at least for now, I just can't. And apparently many people can't since it did lost in the first round of world cup so badly.

I understand what you're saying, but you should understand that this tower is not built for people to stand beneath it and admire/criticize its 'beuty'. Its built for maximum practicality during the peak seasons of the city (ramadhan and hajj). We really don't care if its tall and ugly and doesn't slim down upto 600m. (BTW it DOES slim down to 600 m, that 'nasty square' is beneath 300m :sly:). The clock is there to show time, not to show off. The crescent is there to light up the beatiful nights at beautiful occasions. See, when you look at it from practical point of view, you'd BLINDLY give it 30 out of10.
And those towers behind it, well, renders always look bad, so we can't say anything about it.
And finally, the mountains don't surround the city, the city surrounds the mountains. Those mountains you saw in the pic are INSIDE the city, which should help you realize this city ain't small at all, and its still growing in size.

a good criticism is rare here, thank you for your views, sir!
most people come here and throw garbage.
no building in the world will be same in beauty to everyone, that's why they say "tastes differ"

Yeah we wouldn't have had problems here if everyone talked like him :yes:

I understand what you're saying, but you should understand that this tower is not built for people to stand beneath it and admire/criticize its 'beuty'. Its built for maximum practicality during the peak seasons of the city (ramadhan and hajj). We really don't care if its tall and ugly and doesn't slim down upto 600m. (BTW it DOES slim down to 600 m, that 'nasty square' is beneath 300m :sly:). .

So you don´t mind if the holiest city in islam will be poluted by hideous architecture?

The clock is there to show time, not to show off. The crescent is there to light up the beatiful nights at beautiful occasions. See, when you look at it from practical point of view, you'd BLINDLY give it 30 out of10..

Well I agree with you

And those towers behind it, well, renders always look bad, so we can't say anything about it..

Renders almost always look great and real. Don´t make everything too general

And finally, the mountains don't surround the city, the city surrounds the mountains. Those mountains you saw in the pic are INSIDE the city, which should help you realize this city ain't small at all, and its still growing in size.

:lol::lol::lol:

^^ he is right about mountains being inside the city, its both ways though, city is also surrounded by mountains, and vice versa :P

check it in Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=21.419034,39.836082&spn=0.080542,0.169086&t=k&z=13)

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I understand what you're saying, but you should understand that this tower is not built for people to stand beneath it and admire/criticize its 'beuty'. Its built for maximum practicality during the peak seasons of the city (ramadhan and hajj). We really don't care if its tall and ugly and doesn't slim down upto 600m. (BTW it DOES slim down to 600 m, that 'nasty square' is beneath 300m :sly:).


Giving amounts of money they spend on finishing I really don't think that was all about practicality. And it could have been done practically and better looking.


The clock is there to show time, not to show off.


I understeand this is a joke? You don't build 600 meters tower to show time in the mobile phones era.


The crescent is there to light up the beatiful nights at beautiful occasions.


That could have been done regardless of the design. The crescent is clearly there because of cultural significance.


And finally, the mountains don't surround the city, the city surrounds the mountains. Those mountains you saw in the pic are INSIDE the city, which should help you realize this city ain't small at all, and its still growing in size.

The mountains may not be the boundaries of the city, but they still make some reference and are one of the reasons this tower look so out of place.

I don't really like this tower's design, but I must say it's sheer size is fucking impressive.

I understand what you're saying, but you should understand that this tower is not built for people to stand beneath it and admire/criticize its 'beuty'. Its built for maximum practicality during the peak seasons of the city (ramadhan and hajj). We really don't care if its tall and ugly and doesn't slim down upto 600m. (BTW it DOES slim down to 600 m, that 'nasty square' is beneath 300m :sly:). The clock is there to show time, not to show off. The crescent is there to light up the beatiful nights at beautiful occasions. See, when you look at it from practical point of view, you'd BLINDLY give it 30 out of10.
And those towers behind it, well, renders always look bad, so we can't say anything about it.
And finally, the mountains don't surround the city, the city surrounds the mountains. Those mountains you saw in the pic are INSIDE the city, which should help you realize this city ain't small at all, and its still growing in size.

Who are 'we'?

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Anyway, as someone who's been there I just wanted to say that the tower(s) give a completely different feeling when it's street view. They're not even half as imposing.
And as you get to see the detailing more closely, you have the chance to appreciate how impressive and (surprisingly) fitting-to-the-area the complex is.

^^^ 100% true, it looks so much different and better in person

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I think it's stretching a point to call those small hills "mountains".
Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill. :lol:

^^many of the "hills" inside Makkah are more than 300 meters taller than the surrounding plain, some as high as 600 meters. the defining height between a mountain and a hill is subject to dispute, but 300 meters is widely believed to be the height.

+ makkah is located in a valley.

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I'm afraid it's not my cuppa, gents. But I'll leave it at that.

no green is better, i mean it looks AMAZING HERE

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Who are 'we'?

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Anyway, as someone who's been there I just wanted to say that the tower(s) give a completely different feeling when it's street view. They're not even half as imposing.
And as you get to see the detailing more closely, you have the chance to appreciate how impressive and (surprisingly) fitting-to-the-area the complex is.

I though 'we' were on the same page :sly:

I think it's stretching a point to call those small hills "mountains".
Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill. :lol:

:lol: those ARE mountains.

this was posted on April 10th, 2006, 11:09 PM

Why do people have so much against this project, it is probably the ONLY supertall uc in the world right now that is NEEDED. Burj Dubai and SWFC may be more attractive, but in terms of pure practicallity, this is IT. Mecca gets the most ridiculous ammount of pilgrims each year, and it is not a massive area. To house these people that come from all over the world, hotels are needed, and they need to be BIG.

And its not unattractive or totally random, it fits in very well with the architecture in the area, and will be a stunning landmark when complete.

In a couple of decades, they will compete this with the Chinese wall in the SSC-one on ones ;)

In a couple of decades, they will compete this with the Chinese wall in the SSC-one on ones ;)

Let me correct you, in a couple of milleniums, not decades. This is not "ancient architectur", this is "ISLAMIC ARCHITECTURE".

^^
It looks like a church, designed by a brit no? ^^
In 25 years all Oil Rich Arabia will sink in the sands because they waste their money for such bullocks instead of investing it in reasonable projects/educaation.

^^
It looks like a church, designed by a brit no? ^^
In 25 years all Oil Rich Arabia will sink in the sands because they waste their money for such bullocks instead of investing it in reasonable projects/educaation.

stereotypes :lol:
King Abdullah University was a TOTAL WASTE OF MONEY :lol:

mark1100

mark doesn't know that saudi had just opened the largest women only university in the world, so huge it has its own system of trains.... +40 other universities under construction, in saudi gov universities and schools are free, they even give you a salary of you study in a gov university. + over 100,000 students are studying abroad on scholarships the gov pays everything + they give them huge salaries (i'm one of them)

and no it was designed by a number of ppl, all muslims, the company which made the clock is a german man who became muslim years ago and dedicated his company to build the moving domes and the electric umbrellas at the prophet's mosque

didn't i just post this comment above you:

this was posted on April 10th, 2006, 11:09 PM

Why do people have so much against this project, it is probably the ONLY supertall uc in the world right now that is NEEDED. Burj Dubai and SWFC may be more attractive, but in terms of pure practicallity, this is IT. Mecca gets the most ridiculous ammount of pilgrims each year, and it is not a massive area. To house these people that come from all over the world, hotels are needed, and they need to be BIG.

And its not unattractive or totally random, it fits in very well with the architecture in the area, and will be a stunning landmark when complete.

saudi is not america, we have lots of money to waste, we are not bankrupt. infact i think that saudi is not wasting enough money. i forgot to mention that saudi donates more money than any other country in the world (wiki)

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It looks like a church, designed by a brit no? ^^
In 25 years all Oil Rich Arabia will sink in the sands because they waste their money for such bullocks instead of investing it in reasonable projects/educaation.

you need an education

If it was just about housing people then a big glass or concrete box would have been just perfect, even the construction time would have been much shorter. Its not about functionality. Its a statement, a vanity project and incredibly ugly one. If you want to know what a beautiful building looks like then look no further than Shanghai Tower or London Bridge Tower.

And Mark does have a point, the big showcase cities in the Middle East are being built with little or no thought, they are just big vanity projects (ie this building) and if it carries on like this those cities are bound to sink into the sands. Perhaps you should learn from the Chinese how to build a sustainable and good looking environment?

now why are you guys talking about if it's beautiful or not?
1. beautiful towers are for tourism ..
2. this tower wasn't made for tourism at all !!
3. this tower is being built just to help muslims to do Hajj and Omrah ,also to manage time at this holly place by it's large clock ..

If it was just about housing people then a big glass or concrete box would have been just perfect, even the construction time would have been much shorter. Its not about functionality. Its a statement, a vanity project and incredibly ugly one. If you want to know what a beautiful building looks like then look no further than Shanghai Tower or London Bridge Tower.

And Mark does have a point, the big showcase cities in the Middle East are being built with little or no thought, they are just big vanity projects (ie this building) and if it carries on like this those cities are bound to sink into the sands. Perhaps you should learn from the Chinese how to build a sustainable and good looking environment?

Beauty is relative and is in the eye of the beholder. And Arabia has been there for ages (with and without oil) and is there to stay. Kthnxbai.

I can't even believe I'm replying to (thus dignifying) such posts.........

I though 'we' were on the same page :sly:

I don't think this is a "we vs. them" situation. People here are exchanging opinions (even though some do it in an extremely vulgar manner).
And I didn't agree with many points of your post, that's why I questioned the 'we' implied..

Yeah, yeah... Oil countries and their governments are definitely smart :lol: Motor of economic growth is oil and you will barely find a refinery in Middle East - JD Rockefeller knew that you will earn most money from refining and distribution and his royal highness king Abdullah doesn´t know that :lol::lol:, selling ur oil for US dollar only is definitely smart too :lol::lol::cheers:

You have to pray that you will sell all your petroleum before nuclear fussion is fully operationable :lol::lol::lol:


And that guy who said this tower isn´t for tourism? :D :D :D Never heard a anything stupid here xD I thought this is a hotel mainly for the pilgrims (hajj, ramadan) which is in fact tourism. So it doesn´t matter that something looks really shitty, because it´s not for tourism? Have you ever heard about office building or residential building? For example the Pentominium, it is a residential tower so it can be designed with a shape of Stalinist Moscow Hotel?

If that tower got a glass cladding I think it would be much cheaper than this.

this thread needs a FAQ

mark1100

mark doesn't know that saudi had just opened the largest women only university in the world, so huge it has its own system of trains.... +40 other universities under construction, in saudi gov universities and schools are free, they even give you a salary of you study in a gov university. + over 100,000 students are studying abroad on scholarships the gov pays everything + they give them huge salaries (i'm one of them)

and no it was designed by a number of ppl, all muslims, the company which made the clock is a german man who became muslim years ago and dedicated his company to build the moving domes and the electric umbrellas at the prophet's mosque

didn't i just post this comment above you:



saudi is not america, we have lots of money to waste, we are not bankrupt. infact i think that saudi is not wasting enough money. i forgot to mention that saudi donates more money than any other country in the world (wiki)
:okay:
I personally aknowledge that all of the details given above are 100% true.
Thats why I said 'stereotypes'

"mark doesn't know that saudi had just opened the largest women only university in the world, so huge it has its own system of trains.... +40 "

I suppose they need trains to get around in such a large institution..especially as they are not allowed to drive their own cars in that backward, repressed society. :ohno::ohno:

saudi is not america, we have lots of money to waste, we are not bankrupt. infact i think that saudi is not wasting enough money. i forgot to mention that saudi donates more money than any other country in the world (wiki):sly:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_charitable_countries

In terms of humanitarian aid through non-development assistance programs then yes, especially factoring in how much is donated to religious organizations. But in terms of comprehensive giving (humanitarian + development assistance), Saudi Arabia didn't even make the top 23 listed in Wiki. By a large amount.

I say this not to knock Saudi Arabia, but to defend the USA in this regard.

I understand what you're saying, but you should understand that this tower is not built for people to stand beneath it and admire/criticize its 'beuty'. Its built for maximum practicality during the peak seasons of the city (ramadhan and hajj).I'm afraid I'll have to call you out on this one. The detailing and ornamentation, the lavishness of the form and the very idea of having multiple structures framing the primary tower all suggest a high inclination of focus on aesthetics. (As it should be.) Practical would have been a huge block or a series of same shaped, bland buildings to maximize construction efficiency. Fortunately the architects and developer recognized the site demanded better.

Also, the fact that nearly a 1/4 of the primary tower is ornamentation (clock & spire) indicates they where indeed recognizing the visual impact of the structure. Again, as they should have.

2. this tower wasn't made for tourism at allSee my thoughts above.

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:ohno:

Its a statement, a vanity project and incredibly ugly one. If you want to know what a beautiful building looks like then look no further than Shanghai Tower or London Bridge Tower.In asserting that such creations (and by extension all mega skyscrapers) are vanity projects, then we're affirming that the influence of the developer and the cultural setting are crucial. Thus, what constitutes beauty in this regard is purely subjective. Many of my local peers consider the towers you're offering a prettier alternatives to be discernably bland and/or weak.

Asserting one's taste upon others is as fruitless as asserting one's faith on another, and neither action builds affinity.

Perhaps you should learn from the Chinese how to build a sustainable and good looking environment? The Chinese have their vanity projects as well, and volumes of disastrous urban conditions due to their population densities. No country or culture has yet monopolozed good or bad urban form. Part and parcel of being human and all that.

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:ohno:C'mon, I've been among the most civil visitors to this forum! :cheers:

I'm not denying it's functionality, merely disagreeing with you about the pretext of the visual form. How many pictures have we seen from the outside? How many pictures of the tower have been taken from inside of, or immediately adjacent to, the mosque? Clearly the tower was meant to be seen, and to become an iconic part of Mecca. (hence the clock) They want visitors and pilgrims to remember these images as vividly as any other part of the experience, and in my mind rightly so. It's adding to the urban landscape and identity of the city. Thus, I simply can't agree that the designers were not taking the visual appeal of the tower into account. That's all.

C'mon, I've been among the most civil visitors to this forum! :cheers:

I was referring to posts above yours, hence the double ^^ ;)

I was referring to posts above yours, hence the double ^^ ;)Ah. That's a facet of graphics-use I've not heard of before.

Well, I do try to learn something new everyday. :)

:sly:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_charitable_countries

In terms of humanitarian aid through non-development assistance programs then yes, especially factoring in how much is donated to religious organizations. But in terms of comprehensive giving (humanitarian + development assistance), Saudi Arabia didn't even make the top 23 listed in Wiki. By a large amount.

I say this not to knock Saudi Arabia, but to defend the USA in this regard.

are you stupid ? i'm still right

"mark doesn't know that saudi had just opened the largest women only university in the world, so huge it has its own system of trains.... +40 "

I suppose they need trains to get around in such a large institution..especially as they are not allowed to drive their own cars in that backward, repressed society. :ohno::ohno:

LOL have you ever drove in saudi ? you'll pee your pants if u try.

^^ hahaha,

Saudi's drive 180km/h inside cities, trust me.

ok, thats enough off topic, i almost forgot where we are. lol

^^ hahaha,

Saudi's drive 180km/h inside cities, trust me.

180??? thats like 10 kmh for a saudi.
Saudis drive a cressida 80 faster than bugatti veyron :P
*no offense*

would you muslim guys just shut up here ! :bash:

would you muslim guys just shut up here ! :bash:

:weird:

are you stupid ? i'm still rightWay to address the point. God bless you, too.

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Whats that above the crescent?

Whats that above the crescent?I think ...maybe it's the last part of the crescent...in way the to be place.

I think ...maybe it's the last part of the crescent...in way the to be place.

Can't be THAT big

LOL have you ever drove in saudi ? you'll pee your pants if u try.


What does that have to do with anything.

Can't be THAT bigBecause they lift it higher to move it...it's the curve of the end part....see how they place those...go part 4-5

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So seriously the supertalls world cup grand finale is between petronas twin towers and chrysler building??? :sly:

So seriously the supertalls world cup grand finale is between petronas twin towers and chrysler building??? :sly:

According to your tastes the final match would be better between this turd and ryugyong hotel, right? Stop offtopic please :bash:

:?

According to your tastes the final match would be better between this turd and ryugyong hotel, right? Stop offtopic please :bash:

well no, but I was expecting SWFC vs something

Well personally I think it´s a great final match! Old meets the new, couldn´t be better :) I thought that the final would be between Burj Khalifa and some american tower, but whatever :cheers:

So seriously the supertalls world cup grand finale is between petronas twin towers and chrysler building??? :sly:

in a general poll you should expect anything. shows the general taste of the members. personally i like both buildings, but overall details and beauty (IMO) is better in Petronas, so i have voted for it.

The telescope dome

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in a general poll you should expect anything. shows the general taste of the members. personally i like both buildings, but overall details and beauty (IMO) is better in Petronas, so i have voted for it.

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I was right all along. That crescent is ginormous and can fit a lot of people inside.

wow a telescope :) but when the building is lighted at night i cannot work very well can it?

So seriously the supertalls world cup grand finale is between petronas twin towers and chrysler building??? :sly:

Two very elegant designs. It is no surprise that all the tacky designs were disfavored (time to start whining about democracy it is...).

wow a telescope :) but when the building is lighted at night i cannot work very well can it?

I think, it is just for lunar observations which won't get affected by light pollution. If it were for deep sky objects, then definitely, surrounding lights would affect observations.

wow a telescope :) but when the building is lighted at night i cannot work very well can it?

I imagine is above most of the radiant light of the city and will really only need to worry about shielding the glow of the crescent. Much of this will be determined by the depth of the telescope's well within the dome and the strength of the lens. Either way it should be far better than what the lay person will have on the ground and adds a nice attraction for those already at the top.

I bet you'll get some great views of the moon. :cheers:

Weird location to have an astronomical observatory since it only has 270 degrees view.

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^^
Most of people with sound mind don´t give a damn about your mosque, some stupid stone in a stone box or the allowance of non-muslims to Mecca. He made such a statement because you are obviously biased and you with your melody boys keep bitching about anyone else who doesn´t share your thoughts and opinions about this building! :bash::bash:

some posts in this thread needs deleting before it goes further.

Weird location to have an astronomical observatory since it only has 270 degrees view.I think they know what they do...maybe this telescope is just set for the moon, like: to see the crescent at the beginning of each month, eclipse, ...so they don't need all the sky.

Makkawi.Pk is the telescope is on the good side to observe the moon in Makkah?

^^ it sure is, on the west side, to observe the moon on the beginning of the lunar month, not to look for the stars or comets. :P

I think they know what they do...maybe this telescope is just set for the moon, like: to see the crescent at the beginning of each month, eclipse, ...so they don't need all the sky.

Makkawi.Pk is the telescope is on the good side to observe the moon in Makkah?

since abumuhanadh answered that, I won't add. But it'll surely be great to hear announcements of Ramazan and the two eids, based on sightings in Makkah :banana::cheers:

So, who's up for talking about the architecture?!!



:banana:

^^ it sure is, on the west side, to observe the moon on the beginning of the lunar month, not to look for the stars or comets. :P

since abumuhanadh answered that, I won't add. But it'll surely be great to hear announcements of Ramazan and the two eids, based on sightings in Makkah :banana::cheers:

Thanks...inshallah they will annonce the sighting of the hilal of every Ramadhan! every Eid! :)

Given that we can now measure time with a precision down to millionths of a second, and that we can predict exactly where and when the moon will be in it's orbit with a simple computer program, why would you need to actually observe the moon in order to determine what day it is?:nuts:

Given that we can now measure time with a precision down to millionths of a second, and that we can predict exactly where and when the moon will be in it's orbit with a simple computer program, why would you need to actually observe the moon in order to determine what day it is?:nuts:At least three different major religions use the lunar cycle to orient select holy days within the calendar year. Christianity, for instance, bases Easter in accordance with the lunar cycle for spring.

Thus, the telescope isn't necessary but you can see why the moon has an influence within religious activitities.

So this thread is finally T/O :banana:

"Thus, the telescope isn't necessary but you can see why the moon has an influence within religious activitities."

Yes, that was the point I was making. :ohno:

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At the base of the golden cladding of the spire, are those loud-speakers?

At the base of the golden cladding of the spire, are those loud-speakers?

those are strong lights i think, the ones you see making light to the crescent and stuff

those are strong lights i think, the ones you see making light to the crescent and stuff

Nope the very faint light that glows at just the base of the crescent at night is the light of the spire crane, otherwise, the whole spire would've been lit.

^^ the render is not necessarily accurate

i think gulfarabia is right, because it looks either like lights or cameras and cameras dont make sense. maybe this location for the light came in handy later on construction. a lot of details change over time, the size with 2 or three balls was a detail that changed in the past too, remember

they will light up during prayer times at night (late night, before dawn) + on islamic holidays.

Oh wow that is some ugly looking building you 've got there..

But also really impressive! Good thing they built it (reminds me of some science fiction comic).

Given that we can now measure time with a precision down to millionths of a second, and that we can predict exactly where and when the moon will be in it's orbit with a simple computer program, why would you need to actually observe the moon in order to determine what day it is?:nuts:

It's a Muslim thing, you wouldn't understand it :lol::lol::lol:

LOL you can build a 600 meters tall skyscraper with a shape of giant turd in front of Vatican.... So please respect my opinion which is that this building is imho the ugliest skyscraper ever built.

^^ Dude So humorous:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

"It's a Muslim thing, you wouldn't understand it"

There's a lot of things about muslims I don't understand. But as far as my previous question goes....I reckon it makes the geezers who watch the moon look important. That's what any religion is all about after all, making the "messengers" look important. It saves them from having to do any proper work like ordinary people. :ohno:

It's a Muslim thing, you wouldn't understand it :lol::lol::lol:

^^ bad answer....

we can use calculations (its not wrong), but its alot better to see it with the eyes just like what the prophet did. we love to follow the prophet. not a big deal

making the "messengers" look important

even non-muslims understand how huge it is to be a "messenger" weather u believe in them or not.

^^ bad answer....

we can use calculations (its not wrong), but its alot better to see it with the eyes just like what the prophet did. we love to follow the prophet. not a big deal



even non-muslims understand how huge it is to be a "messenger" weather u believe in them or not.
how is it better to "see it with the eyes"? calculations are far superior. plain and simple logic dictates that. i dont understand how you could argue this.