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View Full Version : Cars Cars Cars!! sinasina June 29th, 2008, 12:06 PM any renders ^^:) gole_hayahou June 29th, 2008, 04:57 PM absolutely amazing pictures! going to iran 20th july so hopefully i'll come back with pics to post! :D gole_hayahou June 29th, 2008, 04:58 PM edit. Persan June 29th, 2008, 05:16 PM Fiat to debut its Siena in Iran MEHR NEWS (http://www.mehrnews.com/en/Default.aspx?t=Economic) | June 29, 2008 The managing director of the Pars Industrial Development Foundation (also known as TOPCO car manufacturing group) announced here on Sunday that the Italian automobile manufacturer company Fiat will launch its assembly line of Siena sedan in Iran in the coming autumn. Talking to Fars News Agency, Sadeq Bairami said that the company’s main deal with the Italian automaker company is the production of the five most successful and popular models of Fiat in Iran namely Siena, Palio, Strada, Weekend, and Idea under the same platform referred to as 178. Siena sedan is equipped with the facilities including ABS brake system, both sides’ airbag, hydraulic wheel drive, cooling system, anti-theft alarm, lateral window and mirror, backseat seat belt, trip computer, remote control for car’s trunk and gas tank, door’s lateral protective bars in the case of accident, driver’s seat regulation system, CD player, and a trunk with 515 liters of capacity as well as an automatic gearbox. The official added that the Fiat factory has been established in the City of Saveh with an advanced assembly and paint line hall in which the first model of Fiat (Siena) with 1.4-liters, 4-cylinders, and 77-horse power engine compatible to the latest standards of Euro 4 will be manufactured. The related agreement was signed in 2005 by the sides. The initial production of the sedan in Iran will be in the form of full CKD. Persan July 6th, 2008, 05:01 AM Lifan to hit Iranian streets in August PRESS TV (http://www.presstv.com/Detail.aspx?id=62663§ionid=3510213) | July 05, 2008 Kerman Motor Company says the first of the Lifan 520 automobile, produced by Iran and China, will hit the Iranian market in August. The dual-fuel vehicles with 1300cc-1600cc engines can run on both gasoline and CNG, Mohammad-Reza Alinaqi said. The vehicles, manufactured by Kerman Motor Company and Chongqing Lifan Industry (Group) in Iran, will be offered for sale at a price range of $15,000 to $19,000, he added. "About 300 vehicles will be available beginning the second half of the Iranian month of Mordad [August 5]," Alinaqi said. The Iranian company is to manufacture 5,000 Lifan vehicles by the end of the current Iranian year (March 2009). Production capacity is expected to increase to 15,000 by March 2010 and 25,000 in March 2011. The Iranian and Chinese automakers are said to target middle-income Iranians between the ages of 20 and 35. http://www.presstv.com/photo/20080705/torabi20080705152440187.jpg Persan July 6th, 2008, 05:04 AM Iran sells over $15b of cars in fiscal year: official MEHR NEWS (http://www.mehrnews.com/en/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=711184) | July 05, 2008 Deputy Iranian minister of industries and mines here on Saturday announced that Iran has sold $15 billion worth of cars over the past fiscal year. Ahmad Qal’ebani, also the director of Industrial Development and Renovation Organization of Iran (IDRO), said that in 1993, Iran’s sales of automobile industry was less than $1 billion. Moreover, the country imported some $800 million worth of parts. Speaking on the sidelines of the inauguration ceremony of Iran Delco Company, he added that this progress indicates the vast efforts of the country’s automakers and especially parts manufacturers. He went on to explain that Iran Delco is a company manufacturing catalytic converters for the cars’ exhaust gases. It is the only company in the Middle East that produces high quality TWC (three way catalytic converters). Qal’ebani added car parts manufacturers are proud of this achievement which was attained through the endeavors of an Iranian scientist. “15 years ago we could not imagine that we would be able to establish such manufacturing units,” he said. He expressed hope that similar advanced units will be established in the car-making industry. sinasina July 6th, 2008, 03:06 PM Lifan to hit Iranian streets in August PRESS TV (http://www.presstv.com/Detail.aspx?id=62663§ionid=3510213) | July 05, 2008 Kerman Motor Company says the first of the Lifan 520 automobile, produced by Iran and China, will hit the Iranian market in August. The dual-fuel vehicles with 1300cc-1600cc engines can run on both gasoline and CNG, Mohammad-Reza Alinaqi said. The vehicles, manufactured by Kerman Motor Company and Chongqing Lifan Industry (Group) in Iran, will be offered for sale at a price range of $15,000 to $19,000, he added. "About 300 vehicles will be available beginning the second half of the Iranian month of Mordad [August 5]," Alinaqi said. The Iranian company is to manufacture 5,000 Lifan vehicles by the end of the current Iranian year (March 2009). Production capacity is expected to increase to 15,000 by March 2010 and 25,000 in March 2011. The Iranian and Chinese automakers are said to target middle-income Iranians between the ages of 20 and 35. http://www.presstv.com/photo/20080705/torabi20080705152440187.jpg wat a rip off for a Chinese car , you can buy a brand new Toyota with that money elsewhere :lol: DingoBingo July 6th, 2008, 09:54 PM They should stop importing those chinese crap cars!!! Rahmani July 7th, 2008, 01:00 PM I don't think the Lifan 520 is that bad. Lifan 520 does an average of 1 liter for 19KM, which for the Americans is around 45MPG. When driving it at 100KM/H it does 1 liter for 23KM or 55MPG. Plus the fact that it is hybrid CNG is a great selling advantage for Iran. I do agree that the with prices between 9.500 and 12.000 Euro. It is abit high for Iran, but it is lower than a Samand, comparible with a Kia Pride and you do get a bigger and updated car than the Pride. I am not sure if its only the henchback, or all 520 models, but I read that The Lifan 520 is basicly a renewed Citroen ZX. Also if you look at the manfuacturing numbers, it is more symbolic and to improve political relationships with China. 300 cars in the first year and 5.000 in the second year, is nothing for a country with 70 million inhabitants! Persan July 7th, 2008, 05:23 PM Fiat to return to Iran after 50-year hiatus with manufacture of Siena sedan IHT (http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/07/07/europe/EU-Italy-Fiat-Iran.php) | July 07, 2008 Fiat Group Autos SpA will begin manufacturing its Siena four-door sedan in Iran this fall, more than 3 1/2 years after signing an agreement with the Iranian car manufacturing company PIDF, a Fiat spokesman said Monday. The launch of the long-delayed project marks Fiat's return to Iran after a 50-year hiatus. The agreement with the Pars Industrial Development Foundation (PIDF) initially foresees the assembly of 50,000 Siena's a year, expanding to 250,000 vehicles a year with the addition of the Palio hatchback, Palio Weekend station wagon and Strada pickup truck. The vehicles are to be assembled at a plant in Saveh, 130 kilometers (80 miles) southwest of Tehran, using components imported from a Tofas factory in Turkey. PIDF is making an initially investment of €200 million (US$313 million). The January 2005 press release announcing the deal said manufacture would begin in the second half of that year. Fiat did not elaborate on the reasons for the delay, saying they were internal company matters. Fiat has signed 34 partnership deals since CEO Sergio Marchionne took over in 2004 as part of his strategy of sharing costs and entering key markets, including China and Russia. Persan July 14th, 2008, 04:15 AM Iran starts online car selling | Renault New Green Car Tehran Times (http://www.tehrantimes.com/Index_view.asp?code=173151) | July 14, 2008 Iran’s Car Selling portal started its online selling of Iran Khodro and SAIPA products here on Sunday in the presence of industries and mines minister, IKCO’s officials, and Majlis’ deputy spokesman. Customers can refer to www.IRANeCAR.com (http://www.iranecar.com) or www.IKco.com (http://www.ikco.com) to get acquaintance with the latest sales’ condition and register to purchase. Meanwhile, Iran Khodro Company successfully received the “green signature” from Renault for its Tondar 90 (Logan) production in terms of quality. The French company practices a wide-reaching environment policy across the whole of its product range, covering all vehicle’s lifecycle from the production plant to the scrap yard. To carry the Renault eco2 signature, a car must meet three criteria, on manufacturing, CO2 emissions and recycling. I hope they sell that Tondar 90 in Iran - A good way to reduce the air pollution that plagues the cities. shugs July 14th, 2008, 08:10 PM Iranians buying cars online... whatever next :D I think they already are selling the tondar-90... Persan July 20th, 2008, 06:30 PM IKCO to roll out 11 new models by 2012 Tehran Times (http://www.tehrantimes.com/Index_view.asp?code=173451) | July 20, 2008 The Iranian giant automaker, Iran Khodro Company, will market 11 new cars models by the next four years, said the CEO of the company here on Saturday. IRNA quoted Manuchehr Manteqi saying the company will introduce its new low-cost family cars in the next Iranian calendar year (to start March 21, 2009). Producing 1.150 million cars per annum, IKCO ranks the 16th in the world’s car industry. Persan July 22nd, 2008, 09:17 AM Peugeot 407 to hit Iranian market PRESS TV (http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=64380§ionid=351020102) | July 21, 2008 Iran's number one automaker, Iran Khodro is set to begin the import of Peugeot's popular passenger car within the next two months. The French automaker reached an agreement with Iran Khodro Company (IKCO) to sell Peugeot 407 complete build-up units (CBU), Ahmad Ne'mat, secretary of Iran's Automaker Association told Fars news agency on Monday. The announcement came despite a Financial Times report which said the French and British embassies "have dramatically scaled back their trade sections amid a slowdown in business ties with Iran caused by international sanctions." IKCO officials say the new Peugeot sedan will be launched in Iran at the end of summer. "Iran Khodro will start assembly of Peugeot 407 at home if the automobiles would be welcomed by Iranian customers," Ne'mat explained. French cars have a significant presence in Iran's streets. IKCO assembles and manufactures French automobiles such as the Peugeot 405 and 206 under the Peugeot Company license. The dual-fuel, 2.2-liter Peugeot 407 is likely to sell in Iran for approximately $65,000. http://www.presstv.com/photo/20080721/khalaj20080721194425765.jpg Persan July 24th, 2008, 04:54 PM IKCO to produce diesel 206 SD for export MEHR NEWS (http://www.mehrnews.com/en/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=721156) | July 23, 2008 The deputy managing director of the Iran Khodro Company here on Wednesday announced that the company will manufacture export-bound diesel powered 206 SD sedan by the next two or three months. According to Fars News Agency Hossein Najari said, “If the diesel powered 206 SD satisfies the target markets, the company will manufacture and export diesel-fueled Samand sedans.” A sedan model developed in Iran under the name "Peugeot 206 SD" was jointly designed by Peugeot and Iran Khodro. It is the fifth and last version of Peugeot 206 models. shugs July 25th, 2008, 03:10 AM Fantastic, skipped the 406 all together! I assume the 407 is one of the 11 new models ICKO will be producing... DingoBingo July 25th, 2008, 10:38 AM 65.000? What a fuckin theft! Persan July 26th, 2008, 12:23 PM Iran's biggest car assembly line opens PRESS TV (http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=64802§ionid=351020102) | July 26, 2008 Iran's biggest car assembly lines will be inaugurated Saturday at the Iran Khodro Khorasan plant in the presence of President Ahmadinejad. The inauguration of the car body and paint assembly lines at the Iran Khodro Khorasan (IKK) plant, with an investment of $140.55 million, will enable the plant to produce 45 vehicles an hour, said Mohammad Mehdi Siadat, the Managing Director of the IKK plant. The production capacity of the plant will reach 100,000 vehicles a year by the end of the current Iranian calendar year (ending March 20, 2009), he added. IKK was the 48th largest firm in the country last year, with sales of over $1 billion, a figure expected to rise to nearly $1.568 billion by the end of the current Iranian year. IKCO is the largest carmaker in the Middle East, Central Asia and North Africa, with an annual production of more than one million vehicles of various models, including sedans, trucks, minibuses and buses. http://www.presstv.com/photo/20080726/mehdizadeh20080726094953500.jpg Persan July 26th, 2008, 12:24 PM Iran, Malaysia to assemble budget car PRESS TV (http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=64790§ionid=351020102) | July 26, 2008 Iranian auto manufacturer Saipa is to partner with Malaysia's Proton to create a budget car that would replace the Pride model series. The first vehicle model to be jointly manufactured by the two automakers will be an inexpensive sedan in the A class designed to secure a suitable global market share, said Saipa Managing Director Mehrdad Bazrpash at the signing of the memorandum of understanding between the two auto firms. Zagros Khodro currently cooperates with Proton in the distribution of Proton vehicles but Saipa's cooperation with Proton will be on a different level. The cooperation between Saipa and Proton will be in the areas of design, production, distribution, marketing and sales as well as research and development, Bazrpash said. mahdial_x5 July 27th, 2008, 02:52 AM YEA!!! A FUCKING THEFT!! AN SCLASS MERCEDES COSTS 300000 $$$ HERE!!!! BUT, you know whatt, people are getting, richer and richer, hyundais at 50/60 milliion tommans..i mean common... so, they willbuy the 407, im SURE:D and regarding FIAT my dads freind is the one who did that:D heheh hes the lawyer between ikco and fiat!!! :D and he "managed" it:D FreeToLove July 27th, 2008, 10:28 AM Lets hope the Iranian people will buy the 407s and less with paykan and pride HangPC2 July 27th, 2008, 06:14 PM Proton and SAIPA partner up for budget sedan in Iran Iranian automotive company SAIPA and Proton has signed a Memorandum of Understanding to enter a strategic partnership that would result in the two companies collaborating in areas of R&D, marketing, sales, JV investments, and supply networks. The first project will be an inexpensive small sedan that will replace the SAIPA Pride (SAIPA Saba, SAIBA Nasim), a rebadged version of the ancient 1987 Kia Pride which was in turn a rebadged version of the Ford Festiva, or Mazda 121. That generation of the Kia Pride has since been replaced by the Kia Rio. The new SAIPA compact will likely be based on an existing Proton model or platform similiar to how Chinese automaker Youngman is using the Proton GEN2 for its Europestar RCR. Like China, Iran is a left hand drive market. It’s interesting to note that one of SAIPA’s subsidiaries (51% owned) Pars Khodro began manufacturing the Dacia Logan in Iran in 2006. - Paul Tan - shugs July 28th, 2008, 03:31 PM ^Could you be kind enough to post the source of the article please! :) Lets hope the Iranian people will buy the 407s and less with paykan and pride The peykan was discontinued years ago, their numbers can only go down :D Persan July 28th, 2008, 03:39 PM Iran's Samand popular in Turkey PRESS TV (http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=65002§ionid=351020102) | July 28, 2008 The national Iranian automobile Samand, manufactured by the giant automaker Iran Khodro, has gained a foothold in the Turkish market. Iran Khodro, the Middle East's largest automaker, has sold more than 1,000 units of its Samand LX model in Turkey in 2007. "The number of Samand LX sedans exported to the neighboring country is expected to hit 2,000 units in 2008," said Mohammad-Hossein Yazdi, the company's export director, on Monday. The Iranian automaker is set to launch an auto manufacturing plant in 2009 in Turkey, where almost all major global auto producers have facilities. The giant auto manufacturing companies from the US, Japan, Europe and China are involved in stiff competition to dominate the Turkish market. Gaining a foothold in the Turkish car market is difficult, Yigit Seskir, general manager of MYS Holding, the Turkish distributor for Samand cars, said. "However, Iran Khodro Company has managed to have a significant presence in this market over the past a year and a half." Iran Khodro exports the country's first national vehicle, Samand, to a number of countries, including Belarus, Russia, Syria, Tajikistan and Venezuela. DingoBingo July 29th, 2008, 10:38 AM Lets hope the Iranian people will buy the 407s and less with paykan and pride Wishful thinking! U know there are many people who can't even afford a Vespa, let alone a Peykan. Do u expect them to buy a 60 million toman car? Rahmani July 29th, 2008, 08:59 PM Wishful thinking! U know there are many people who can't even afford a Vespa, let alone a Peykan. Do u expect them to buy a 60 million toman car? Although the 407 is heavly overpriced. There are cars in Iran for around 10 million toman. Herbicide July 30th, 2008, 01:34 AM Wishful thinking! U know there are many people who can't even afford a Vespa, let alone a Peykan. A Vespa would surely cost more than a Peykan. Peykans are not made anymore and can only be bought used. Vespa's are chic designer Italian scooters. Im sure there are some rich people that will be in the market for 407s. DingoBingo August 1st, 2008, 12:32 PM ^^ Of course there will be. As u can see there are people in Iran who drive 300.000 euro cars! FreeToLove August 1st, 2008, 11:53 PM Meh. I really dont care what cars Iranian people are driving. I want them to sell there Paykan and drive good cars! Persan August 4th, 2008, 05:48 PM Iran's hybrid car production booming PRESS TV (http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=65613§ionid=351020103) | August 04, 2008 Iranian companies have increased production of dual-fuel vehicles as part of the general plan to manufacture less gasoline-powered cars. “Iranian automakers have produced more than 120,000 vehicles that use natural gas and regular gasoline in the first quarter of the current (Iranian calendar) year (March 20-July 21),” Iranian Minister of Industries and Mines Ali-Akbar Mehrabian said on Sunday in Tehran. Iranian car manufacturers, including the country's number one automaker Iran Khodro, have increased production of cars that utilize both gasoline and compressed natural gas (CNG) by about 20-fold over the past two years. “Hybrid car production rose to 429,000 last year from 20,000 two years ago,” Mehrabian said at Iran's first national conference on CNG, which was held in the capital from August 2 to 3. The boom in hybrid car production has been encouraged by the government to reduce dependence on gasoline. Iran, the world's fourth-largest oil producer, lacks adequate refining capacity to produce gasoline and spends huge sums on imports, which burdens state coffers. The country introduced a gasoline rationing program in June 2007 to reduce the excessive gasoline consumption. "Sixty percent of passenger cars produced this year will use natural gas as fuel or will be dual-fuel, and the remaining 40 percent will run on regular gasoline," read a cabinet statement released in June 2008. The decision, applying to Iranian calendar year 1387 (ends March 20, 2009) came in the wake of sweeping revisions announced in the gasoline rationing plan on June 7 . Among the changes was a measure that required owners of luxury vehicles to purchase premium gasoline at market prices as of June 21 instead of heavily subsidized regular unleaded fuel. http://www.presstv.com/photo/20080804/khalaj20080804175740187.jpg alitezar August 5th, 2008, 04:19 PM Hi all, Check out the carforum.net it's a forum for car lovers :) As for me I'm not a big fan of cars, just thought you guys might like it. shugs August 9th, 2008, 04:31 PM Iran, World's 10th Automaker TEHRAN (FNA)- Iran has the world's tenth largest auto making industry, the United Nations Industrial Development Organization (UNIDO) said. According to the UNIDO's International Yearbook of Industrial Statistics 2008, Japan has the largest auto industry in the world, followed by the United States and Germany. Mexico, France, South Korea, Britain, Canada, Spain and Iran ranked fourth to tenth, followed by Sweden, India, Brazil, Italy and Indonesia. Among the developing nations, Iran's auto industry is placed third after Mexico and South Korea. Iran Khodro Company (IKCO) is the largest car maker in Iran and the Middle East. It exports the country's first national vehicle, Samand, to a number of countries, including Belarus, Russia, Syria, Turkey, Tajikistan, Vietnam and Venezuela. SAIPA and Pars Khodro are also among major Iranian automakers which have participated in joint projects with France's Citroen and Renault, Japan's Nissan and South Korea's KIA Motors. Iran Khodro Company, a major industrial manufacturer, produces cars for the domestic and export markets. Founded in 1962, Iran Khodro was originally called 'Iran National' before the 1979 Islamic Revolution. Saipa, established in 1966, assembled the two-cylinder Citroen mini passenger car, the Jyane, and manufactured licensed versions of the original Renault 5, Renault 21 and Kia Pride. Production of Saipa Pride continued until 2005. They later introduced an updated versions based on the Pride called the Saipa 141 while continuing to sell their version of the Pride under the names Saba and Nasim. Saipa also produces the Citroen Xantia under license as well as assembling sedan models of the previous generation Kia Rio using parts imported from South Korea. In 2000, Saipa launched its own design, the 701 Caravan minivan, which was face-lifted in 2003. In addition to the privatization plans, car makers have been asked to scale down production of gasoline-fueled vehicles and increase production of cars with dual-fuel and natural gas engines. Sixty percent of passenger cars produced this year will use natural gas as fuel or will be dual-fuel, and the remaining 40 percent will run on regular gasoline. Experts say private car makers can more efficiently deliver many goods or services than government due to competition. In general, it is argued that over time this will lead to lower car prices, improved quality, more choices, less red tape and quicker delivery. http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8705191229 Persan August 10th, 2008, 03:42 PM Saipa to unveil new car in Feb. 2009 MEHR NEWS (http://www.mehrnews.com/en/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=729327) | August 08, 2008 Iran’s Saipa plans to unveil a car fully designed and manufactured by its engineers next February. The car is scheduled to make its debut during the 2009 Ten-Day Dawn celebrations, which are held every year from February 1 to 11 to commemorate the anniversary of the victory of the Islamic Revolution. Saipa Managing Director Mehrdad Bazrpash made the announcement about the new car on the sidelines of a ceremony held on Thursday to celebrate the inauguration of 30 new after-sales service agencies, IRIB reported. In addition, Saipa recently signed a memorandum of understanding with Malaysia’s Proton to jointly develop a new compact sedan to replace the ubiquitous Saipa Pride. shugs August 10th, 2008, 03:49 PM ^Ooh! designed with proton ey... I hope proton do the handling since that department is run by Lotus. Interesting schtuff. Persan August 11th, 2008, 05:47 PM Iran to double hybrid car production PRESS TV (http://www.presstv.com/Detail.aspx?id=66281§ionid=3510213) | August 11, 2008 Iranian automakers are to double the production of dual-fuel vehicles in order to reduce the country's heavy dependence on gasoline. “Some 600,000 hybrid cars are to be manufactured by the end of the (Iranian calendar) year ending March 20, 2009,” said senior Industry Ministry official Mohsen Salehinia. Iranian companies produced over 314,000 hybrids that utilize both gasoline and compressed natural gas (CNG) during the previous Iranian year which ended March 20, 2008. “These (600,000 hybrid) vehicles will make up 33 percent of the country's total auto production,” Salehinia added. The rise in hybrid car production has been encouraged by the government to reduce gas consumption in the world's fourth-largest oil producer. Iran lacks adequate refining facilities to produce gasoline and allocates huge sums to import gas, which burdens state coffers. The country introduced a gasoline-rationing program in June 2007. "Sixty percent of passenger cars produced this year will use natural gas as fuel or will be dual-fuel, and the remaining 40 percent will run on regular gasoline," read a cabinet statement released in June 2008. Rahmani August 11th, 2008, 11:43 PM Saipa to unveil new car in Feb. 2009 MEHR NEWS (http://www.mehrnews.com/en/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=729327) | August 08, 2008 Iran’s Saipa plans to unveil a car fully designed and manufactured by its engineers next February. The car is scheduled to make its debut during the 2009 Ten-Day Dawn celebrations, which are held every year from February 1 to 11 to commemorate the anniversary of the victory of the Islamic Revolution. Saipa Managing Director Mehrdad Bazrpash made the announcement about the new car on the sidelines of a ceremony held on Thursday to celebrate the inauguration of 30 new after-sales service agencies, IRIB reported. In addition, Saipa recently signed a memorandum of understanding with Malaysia’s Proton to jointly develop a new compact sedan to replace the ubiquitous Saipa Pride. Zagross Khodro is already selling the Proton Gen2, Wira and Impian. So it's probally going to be a car based on the Satria. I hope it is not the first generation (1995). But that is still a big step ahead from the 1987 Kia Pride. Satria (1995-2005) Herbicide August 12th, 2008, 01:32 AM The "wira" is the compact sedan version of the older "satria". This car began as the 1992 Mitsubishi Colt. So it cant be the old Satria or Wira anyway if Zagross already make it but who knows. Persan August 27th, 2008, 05:13 PM Iran carmaker active in 7 countries PRESS TV (http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=67707§ionid=351020102) | August 27, 2008 Iran Khodro Group (IKCO) manufactures various vehicle models in seven countries across the globe, reports managing director of the company. The production capacity of these plants is a total 225,000 vehicles per year, said Manouchehr Manteqi at the inauguration ceremony of the country's largest international auto exhibition in Mashhad. Manteqi said the value of IKCO's automobile exports last year was $500 million. Products were exported to a number of countries including France, Russia and Syria. Currently 166 IKCO after-sales offices operate in various countries. IKCO has produced three million vehicles in the past six years alone, which is equivalent to its total production over the previous 36 years. The company currently produces 10 vehicles under 54 brand names. The automotive industry in Iran is the second largest after pharmaceuticals, he added. IKCO is the largest carmaker in the Middle East, Central Asia and North Africa. Tehran1 August 28th, 2008, 12:29 AM The automotive industry in Iran is the second largest after pharmaceuticals did they forget about oil? i suppose they must mean 2nd largest non-oil industry. Persan September 1st, 2008, 06:27 AM IKCO to unveil three new sedans by March ’09 Tehran Times (http://www.tehrantimes.com/Index_view.asp?code=176762) | September 01, 2008 Iran’s giant automaker Iran Khodro plans to unveil three new sedans by March 2009. Two of the sedans are the advanced models of the Peugeot Pars and ROA, and the other one is a new model of the Samand sedan Sarir. Iran Khodro Diesel, a subsidiary of the Iran Khodro Company (IKCO), exported 900 billion rials ($94 million) worth of products in the last Iranian calendar year (ended March 19, 2008) to eight countries, the IKCO Diesel deputy director for marketing and sales affairs said at a press conference in Mashhad on Saturday. On the sidelines of the Eighth Motor Show in Mashhad, Masud Bahrami said that Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Iraq, Syria, Belarus, and the Ivory Coast were the target markets for the IKCO’s products. Iran Khodro is the largest automotive producer in the Middle East, Central Asia and North Africa regions, with an annual production of around 1,000,000 various vehicles including cars (550,000 unit), buses, trucks and pick-ups. This figure also places it as the 20th biggest automotive producer globally. Iran Khodro produces Iran’s first national car, the Samand, which is based on the Peugeot 405 platform. The firm has a long-term relationship with PSA Peugeot Citroën, and assembles a number of Peugeot models under licence from the French firm. It also makes trucks and buses under license from Mercedes-Benz. Gag Halfrunt September 1st, 2008, 01:30 PM The last three sentences of that Tehran Times article are copied word for word from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Khodro). The part about Mercedes-Benz was written by me (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Iran_Khodro&oldid=16392165). :) shugs September 1st, 2008, 02:09 PM ^^English written Iranian journalism at your best! :lol: Persan September 1st, 2008, 04:30 PM Chery to hit Iranian roads by January PRESS TV (http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=68129§ionid=351020102) | September 01, 2008 An Iranian carmaker has struck a deal with Chery, the largest independent car company in China, to assemble 6,000 vehicles in 2009. The announcement was made by Seyyed Hossein Ahmadi, head of the Industries and Mines Department of Khorasan Razavi province, at an auto fair in the capital city Mashhad. Sanabad Khorasan Khodro, an affiliate of Iran Khodro -- the Middle East's largest carmaker -- will begin assembly of the vehicles in January 2009 in the northeastern Khorasan Razavi province, and will use Chinese technology. The Iranian and Chinese companies have spent over one year negotiating the deal. Production will increase significantly in 2010 with 30,000 Chery cars planned for year two of the venture. In 2007, China's biggest domestic automaker, Chery, announced it would open a factory in Iran. The manufacturer is expanding rapidly into foreign markets and has announced joint ventures with American-owned Chrysler, and Fiat -- an Italian car company. Chery also assembles vehicles with partners in Russia, Ukraine, Egypt, Uruguay and Indonesia. The factory will assemble Chery's compact S21 sedan, also known as the QQ6, from kits supplied by Chery. The vehicles are to be sold in Iran and neighboring countries. http://www.presstv.com/photo/20080901/bageri_d20080901093344546.jpg Persan September 13th, 2008, 12:45 PM IKCO to be 4th largest Asian automaker PRESS TV (http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=69191§ionid=351020102) | September 12, 2008 Iran Khodro Company (IKCO) will soon become the fourth largest Asian auto manufacturing firm if the current production trend continues. Currently auto manufacturers from Japan, South Korea, China and India are the top auto manufacturers in Asia. IKCO has produced three million vehicles in the past six years alone, which is equivalent to its total production over the previous 36 years, said Manuchehr Manteqi while referring to the 42 years production of the company. IKCO plans to increase its production to one million vehicles in a year by January of 2009 out of which 800,000 will be produced at the domestic plants and the remaining 200,000 vehicles will be produced at sites outside of Iran. IKCO had produced around 100,000 vehicles in the last 10 years while that level of output was raised to 600,000 vehicles last year, he added. The company currently produces 10 vehicles under 52 brand names. Iran Khodro Group also manufactures various vehicle models in seven countries across the glob. About 70-90 percent of the parts of vehicles manufactured at the company are internally produced, Manteqi noted. IKCO used to design vehicle parts based on obtained licenses but currently the company's own engineers design the parts. Manteqi also said the company is capable to design and manufacture assembly lines at any automation level in any part of the world. IKCO owns a brand name with an estimated value of $400 billion which added to the company's assets. New products of IKCO such as the youth Samand, auto wheelchair Samand, second generation of natural gas-powered Roa, R90 (7-seat van) and new dual-fuel Peugeot sedan 470 were inaugurated in he country's largest international auto exhibition in Mashhad and will soon hit the market. http://www.presstv.com/photo/20080912/mehdizadeh20080912133617859.jpg I find the $400 billion value of IKCO to be a bit dubious. sinasina September 13th, 2008, 12:57 PM well they have revenue of 22$m everday so...... shugs September 13th, 2008, 04:20 PM That is fantastic... One thing for sure China produces much more vehicles for it's massive population and foreign market however the quality is much lower than IKCO sinasina September 13th, 2008, 05:07 PM That is fantastic... One thing for sure China produces much more vehicles for it's massive population and foreign market however the quality is much lower than IKCO u mean our kia prides are better than the Chinese cars:lol: shugs September 13th, 2008, 05:19 PM They're made by Saipa ;) sinasina September 13th, 2008, 05:48 PM They're made by Saipa ;) i know, lool sinasina October 7th, 2008, 10:57 PM this is a joke :lol::lol::lol: Iran unveils plan for women's car Iran has announced plans for a new car designed specially for women. http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45087000/jpg/_45087450_woman_afp226body.jpg Its features will include automatic transmission, parking and navigation aids and a jack for changing tyres without getting grease on your chador. Iran's biggest car producer, Iran Khodro, says it will come in a range of feminine colours and interior designs. Other features are proposed to make it easier for women when they are doing the family shopping or taking their children to school. If that suggests a degree of sexist stereotyping in Iranian society, it is, just possibly, true. Despite the fact that Iranian women now make up around 60% of university students, Iranian men have yet to absorb fully the message of equality. A recent study by an academic from Allameh Tabatabaii University in Tehran found that working Iranian women believed that the domestic chores should be shared more equally. However, according to the report "their husbands think and act traditionally". Indeed, the idea of married men cooking for their wives is viewed in Iran as highly eccentric. As a result, the report concludes, Iran's new generation of working women "are obliged to play the role of a superwoman to resolve their contradictions in handling all tasks." It says such women "have become increasingly frustrated with their life". 'Modesty bikes' Officially, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad insists that Iranian women are the most equal in the world. And the authorities proudly boast of the achievements and opportunities open to Iranian women. But the official Iranian concept of equality is very different from that understood by Western feminists. Among the more eccentric policies here, Iran recently announced plans for a special bicycle for women. None of the machines has been spotted yet, but apparently the idea is to provide special covers, to help preserve female modesty as they pedal. Women, however, are still banned from riding motorcycles. However, they can often be seen perched on the back, sometimes with one or two small children in their arms, as their husband weaves through the Iranian traffic. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7657810.stm Herbicide October 8th, 2008, 08:36 PM Cant find anything about it on IKCO website. Not sure if its true... Persan October 9th, 2008, 02:49 AM Iran car maker says French politics hampering ventures AFP (http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gj4q0Oh254QMvPv-foatbrLjmM7w) | October 09, 2008 The chairman of Iran's biggest car maker accused France of "inappropriate policies", which he said are hampering joint ventures in a country where French manufacturers have a 40 to 50 percent market share. France is Iran's biggest trading partner but "surprisingly, in financial matters their treatment of us is like one with a country of few bilateral ties," Manouchehr Manteghi, chairman of Iran Khodro Company (IKCO), told AFP. In July, IKCO, Iran's biggest car company, celebrated the 20th year of cooperation with Peugeot, whose 405 and 206 ranges it manufactures under licence. Seven different Peugeot models accounted for about 64 percent of the total 542,000 passengers cars and pickups produced by Manteghi's company in 2007. In addition, IKCO and the country's second-largest car manufacturer Saipa produce the Logan in a joint venture with Renault worth hundreds of millions of dollars. "The first problem we have with Peugeot and Renault is basically France's policies," Manteghi said. Since President Nicolas Sarkozy's election in 2007, France has toughened its position towards Iran and has supported UN Security Council sanctions against Iran for its failure to heed ultimatums to suspend uranium enrichment. "Given they seem to be moving in line with US politics, they are (significantly) harming our trade level, which has been built up with much mutual energy and efforts," the IKCO chairman said. Despite acknowledging the impact of sanctions, Manteghi rejected any notion that the measures might damage the company. "Sanctions may increase costs but they can not stop us in terms of technology," he said. "With our sites in Tehran, (the northeastern province of) Khorasan and abroad, we will achieve a production capacity of one million cars per year in about 18 months," Manteghi said. Iran's total fleet of around 10 million passenger cars and pickups also includes brands like South Korean Hyundai, Germany's Mercedes Benz and BMW as well as Japan's Toyota and Mazda -- eye-catchers in big cities. However, IKCO already holds a 60 percent share of the Islamic republic's home market and is focussing its growth plans on foreign markets with a view to becoming Asia's number-four car producer. Group sales in 2007 reached about 9 billion dollars and the chairman has an ambitious expansion timetable for coming years." We plan to increase sales to 20 billion dollars in 2010" followed by another doubling by 2015, he said. The value of IKCO's exports rose from 150 million dollars in 2005 to 510 million dollars in 2007 and the target this year is 700 million dollars. Foreign markets the company supplies include Algeria, Jordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela and the Commonwealth of Independent States. IKCO has built manufacturing plants in countries including Egypt, Senegal and Syria. "The priority to target a market is its economic advantages. But political issues also facilitate and accelerate the job," Manteghi said. IKCO group, a public joint stock company established by private owners in 1962, no longer produces only passenger cars, trucks, buses and parts. It is also involved in the rail sector, airport installations and the refinery industry. With a registered capital of 6.3 trillion rials (over 635 million dollars) on the stock market, IKCO's shareholders plan to increase this to 8 trillion rials (close to 810 million dollars) in the current Iranian year, to March 2009). According to Manteghi, the company's assets are worth 10 times more than its share capital. To secure the needed cash, IKCO is modifying its financial structure by selling some of its properties. In addition, as it heads towards automation, the company will reduce its 37,000 workforce, he said. The Logan-90 project, signed in March 2004, had a chequered history and was held up by a disagreement on whether the cars could be exported from Iran to markets where Renault is already present. The production target for 2008 was 75,000, but according to Manteghi only around 45,000 have been produced. Manteghi blamed the "methodology chosen by Renault in relations with Iranian part makers as well as a miscalculated cash flow". "Renault handed over the matter of primary materials to part manufacturers and they got into trouble because they did not have a strong (financial) basis," he said. Logan-90 production problems will be mostly overcome in 2009, the chairman predicted, noting that IKCO plans to use Logan's assembly line to manufacture vans and pickups in the near future. Rahmani October 9th, 2008, 07:52 PM Restrictions for Car Imports Under a new plan drafted by the Commerce Ministry and Iran’s Customs Administration, new restrictions will soon be imposed on individual car imports from abroad, especially Dubai. Head of Institute of Standards and Industrial Research of Iran, Nezameddin Barzegari told Iran Daily’s Sadeq Dehqan that only car brands which offer after-sales services will be allowed to enter the country. According to him, the institute will step up its efforts to oversee the production of standard cars in Iran starting from this month. On contaminated Chinese milk, he said all milk imports are supervised by the institute and so far there has been no cases of contamination. However, last week, Iran banned the import of dairy products from China because of contamination concerns. According to the Health Ministry, the ban is in place until further notice. The ministry is assigning health workers to demolish Chinese dairy products currently on the Iranian market. HangPC2 October 12th, 2008, 08:00 AM 2008 IKCO Samand Javanan GT http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/9389/2008ikcosamandjavanangtzr2.th.gif (http://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2008ikcosamandjavanangtzr2.gif)http://img385.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php) http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1740/2008ikcosamandjavanangtfe8.th.jpg (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2008ikcosamandjavanangtfe8.jpg)http://img511.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php) http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/4296/2008ikcosamandjavanangtqp9.th.jpg (http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2008ikcosamandjavanangtqp9.jpg)http://img523.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php) http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/2038/2008ikcosamandjavanangtpc7.th.jpg (http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2008ikcosamandjavanangtpc7.jpg)http://img523.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php) http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/9162/2008ikcosamandjavanangtlm5.th.jpg (http://img396.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2008ikcosamandjavanangtlm5.jpg)http://img396.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php) http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4938/2008ikcosamandjavanangtap7.th.jpg (http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2008ikcosamandjavanangtap7.jpg) http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/2443/2008ikcosamandjavanangtut7.th.jpg (http://img56.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2008ikcosamandjavanangtut7.jpg)http://img56.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php) http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6137/2008ikcosamandjavanangtsl4.th.jpg (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2008ikcosamandjavanangtsl4.jpg)http://img511.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php) http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1219/2008ikcosamandjavanangtfl9.th.jpg (http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2008ikcosamandjavanangtfl9.jpg)http://img530.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php) Persan October 23rd, 2008, 02:34 PM Iran car exports projected to reach $1b by March MNA (http://www.mehrnews.com/en/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=769652) | October 21, 2008 The growth in Iran’s car exports is expected to rise to one billion dollars by the end of the current Iranian calendar year (March 20, 2009). Growth is up 30 percent from $700 million worth of exports a year earlier, the Industries and Mines Deputy Minister Ahmad Qalebani said here on Tuesday. Addressing the First Conference on Innovation in the Automobile Industry in Iran University of Science and Technology, Qalebani stated that 75 percent of automobile parts are domestically manufactured and exported, “whereas, until a few years ago we imported the material needed to manufacture car parts. We also design automobiles and engines,” he noted. The official called for more innovation and creativity. “The automobile industry needs further innovation and creativity for a strong, constant, and dynamic presence in international markets and appropriate profit-making through exports.” He also stated that Iranian experts should make efforts to increase vehicle safety, improve fuel conservation, and reduce the end price of cars, and called upon universities and industrial institutions to increase their cooperation. shugs October 23rd, 2008, 09:39 PM another from the car museum http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5199/800pxmercedes500kfb6.jpg Persan November 25th, 2008, 07:57 AM Iranian drivers fall for economical car FT (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/718cf572-ba46-11dd-92c9-0000779fd18c.html) | November 24, 2008 Three years ago, when Iran’s biggest car company stopped making the Paykan – a box-shaped saloon modelled on the 1960s-era British Hillman Hunter – many Iranians regarded it as a loss to their way of life. But now a more economical car, built under a licence from South Korea’s Kia Motors, is king of the country’s roads. The Pride has been produced in Iran for about a decade, but it has only recently started to capture the hearts of the country’s motorists. “The era of Paykan, a leftover from the British, is now a thing of the past,” says Reza, a 51-year-old driver who has swapped his Paykan for a Pride. The growing popularity of the Pride – pronounced “Per-ride” by most Iranians – is part of the rapid development of car manufacturing in Iran, which has become one of the country’s leading industries. As standards of living have improved and aspirations have grown, car ownership is seen to be essential for many middle-class families. There is now one car for every dozen people in Iran. Those on lower incomes take second jobs as taxi drivers and drive the Pride to cope with an inflation rate of about 30 per cent. “The Pride is more economical and consumes less petrol than any other car,” says Mahmoud, a 34-year-old driver. Fuel in Iran costs only 9 cents a litre. The Pride has made Saipa, its producer, the new market leader – a position that was held for decades by Khodro, Paykan’s producer (pictured below). Saipa has become Iran’s top carmaker for the second successive year, producing 482,000 vehicles. The Pride accounts for most of this production. Meanwhile, Khodro made 450,000 cars last year. Iran’s level of annual car production reached 1.15m in 2007, a seven-fold increase over the past decade. The Paykan, which rather optimistically means arrow in Farsi, was brought to Iran in 1966 and generated billions of dollars for Khodro, which produced over 2m units. But there are now as many Prides as Paykans on Iran’s streets. “The Paykan was like a milch cow for Khodro, a role the Pride plays for Saipa now,” says Ahmad Nemat-Bakhsh, executive director of Iran’s vehicle manufacturers’ association. Car industry experts warn that higher car production does not necessarily translate into supremacy for Saipa over Khodro. They stress that Khodro’s products are more varied and sophisticated, although the locally designed Samand, the replacement for the Paykan, is too expensive for many Iranians. Pride is the cheapest option in the market, selling for between $7,500 and $8,500, depending on the model. The profitability of vehicle manufacturing has meant that the businesses have become an issue in domestic politics, in the run-up to the presidential election next June. Although carmakers are listed on the stock exchange, the government still owns about 40 per cent of Khodro and Saipa and appoints the heads of both companies. Mehrdad Bazrpash, the new managing director of Saipa, is a close ally of Mahmoud Ahmadi-Nejad, the president. Mr Bazrpash has launched a daily political newspaper, called Vatan-e Emrouz, meaning Today’s Homeland, and has said that he intends to support Mr Ahmadi-Nejad and his policies. It is not clear if the paper is funded by Saipa. Opponents of the government suspect Mr Bazrpash’s appointment about a year ago means the car company could help finance the next election, in which Mr Ahmadi-Nejad is expected to run. Mr Bazrpash refused to answer questions on this issue. Politics aside, Mr Bazrpash needs to think of a long-term strategy if his company’s star car is to avoid meeting the same fate as the Paykan. “The Pride can only be produced for a maximum of one more year at this quality,” says Mr Nemat-Bakhsh. However, Iranian carmakers, who operate in a market protected from international competition by import tariffs of up to 100 per cent, have ignored such warnings in the past. Iran imported only 50,000 cars last year, including those made by BMW, Mercedes, Toyota and Lexus. The country’s carmakers are still dependent on international markets for component parts. Giants such as France’s Peugeot and Renault have to provide about one-third of the spare parts that Iran needs. This has meant that Iran’s vehicle industry has been crippled by the sanctions exercised by the international community in reaction to the country’s nuclear programme. “It is undeniable that sanctions have created problems, making spare parts arrive with delay, while banks have to find a third country to transfer money,” Mr Nemat-Bakhsh says. He also says that sanctions have led to a 5 per cent rise in costs. Such international hurdles could be one reason why both Khodro and Saipa have come up with the idea of producing so-called “Islamic” cars, observers say. With this branding the companies may be hoping to receive financial support from the government and assistance from Malaysia and Turkey, the other big car producers in the Islamic world. http://media.ft.com/cms/22e548a0-ba4d-11dd-92c9-0000779fd18c.jpg sarbaze tabarestan November 25th, 2008, 01:11 PM per-ide looooooooooool TEHR_IR November 26th, 2008, 08:57 PM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3017/3042090712_02fef6b4fa_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3277/3042090692_ba99be0759_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3205/3042090700_d75fd00900_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3060/3042090690_b4d8934d99_o.jpg Persan November 29th, 2008, 11:21 AM ^^ What type of car is that? Persan November 29th, 2008, 11:32 AM Iran to build cars in Tajikistan PRESS TV (http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=76810§ionid=351020102) | November 28, 2008 Iran and Tajikistan have reached an agreement that allows Iranian companies to set up a vehicle-manufacturing factory in Dushanbe soon. "We are eager to cooperate with Iran's vehicle-manufacturing industry," Tajik President Emomali Rahmon said after a visit to Iran's second-largest car company, Saipa. Tajikistan annually needs some 70,000 cars, Rahmon said, adding that Iranian manufactured automobiles could meet his county's needs. Rahmon arrived in Tehran on Thursday for a two-day visit and met with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. The two signed a cooperation document calling for further collaboration in various fields. The two presidents also discussed setting up a railway among Iran, Tajikistan and Afghanistan. Currently Iran Khodro Group (IKCO) manufactures various vehicle models in seven countries across the globe. IKCO, Middle East's biggest carmaker, announced that its sales reached about 9 billion dollars in 2007; it plans to increase sales to 20 billion dollars in 2010. IKCO has produced three million vehicles in the past six years alone. http://www.presstv.com/photo/20081128/bageri_d20081128135952406.jpg The IKCO Soren TEHR_IR November 29th, 2008, 01:04 PM ^^ What type of car is that? Lamborgini Gallardo FreeToLove November 29th, 2008, 09:22 PM ^^ What type of car is that? Youre not a car man, arent you? sinasina November 30th, 2008, 12:53 AM http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_69A5hotwPJc/SShNv6DqP-I/AAAAAAAABEo/l3Te0gGAjwc/s1600/Lambo%2BLP640%2B4%2B-%2BIran%2BSupercars.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_69A5hotwPJc/SShNwClwYmI/AAAAAAAABEw/nXl8KEXMUZQ/s1600/Lambo%2BLP640%2B5%2B-%2BIran%2BSupercars.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_69A5hotwPJc/SSCF1LiFS9I/AAAAAAAABEg/jWwDMxre1uE/s1600/LP640%2B1%2B-%2BIranSupercars.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_69A5hotwPJc/SSCEf4tO_6I/AAAAAAAABEA/W5_1n_8zESQ/s1600/Jaguar%2BS%2BType%2BMashad.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_69A5hotwPJc/SSCEgIg00MI/AAAAAAAABEI/hq3C-KYB7uw/s1600/Jaguar%2BXK.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_69A5hotwPJc/SSB8xSwFuII/AAAAAAAABDI/IiCy57u5RzM/s1600/Hummer%2BH2%2B2.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_69A5hotwPJc/SSB9I27jbeI/AAAAAAAABDw/qi3mrWd66ng/s1600/Dodge%2BCharger%2B%2B01.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_69A5hotwPJc/SSB4IEU5CjI/AAAAAAAABCY/sEsOyuwV610/s1600/Lexus%2B1%2BLS460L.jpg sinasina December 6th, 2008, 12:09 PM Tehran American Car Show Spring 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSYSeVe-YD0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHVnDxpTM8Y&feature=related mahdial_x5 December 6th, 2008, 09:10 PM have you guys seen this beauty?! Bugatti Type 57C Vanvooren Cabriolet: In 1939 the french government gave this gift to King Pahlavi as a wedding gift, an exclusive Bugatti Cabriolet designed by Vanvooren. It represents the finest France had to offer for one of the greatest car enthusiasts of the day. One of the body's most ingenious features is the front windshield which can be lowered into the cowl and moved under the dashboard. It stayed in Iran for more than 20 years, then it was sold for $275 and taken to the US. After its arrival in North America it suffered from a careless owner and was fitted with a V8 engine. A careful restoration by Rod Jolley of Lymington, Great Britain with the help of Louis Giron, a former Bugatti employee, returned the car to its original shape. Now its in the hands of the Peterson Museum, notice the Iranian license plate: http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/2712/bugattitype57cvanvoorentd9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/3632/bugattitype57cvanvoorenit1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) FreeToLove December 7th, 2008, 08:48 PM I was readin about this car and its history. Dammmmmn what a beautiful car! mahdial_x5 December 9th, 2008, 11:12 PM [QUOTE=TEHR_IR;28599150]http://farm4.static.flickr.com [IMG]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3205/3042090700_d75fd00900_o.jpg YOOO!!! thats taken RIGHT next to my school!!! its like, that exit up top...ughhh i forgot whaat its calledd...but its like the exit to meydun kaaj or sth like that!!! :D i miss those days...my driver would take me through that route:D lool Herbicide December 11th, 2008, 07:11 PM Samand Soren comes top in a road test comparisson of four cars in Russia. The other three are from China. Online voting for readers favorites showed that the Samand Soren was by far their favorite with 60.6% of the vote. I think they should have compared it to European cars though. www.autoreview.ru/archive/2008/13-14/f3_fora_soren_breez/ There is also a Samand owners club in Russia with a popular website. http://samand-russia.ru/ mahdial_x5 December 14th, 2008, 03:54 AM hey all, theres a new car out from Saipa corp...its called the "miniator".... http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=184821 http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/3025/multimediapics13879photvr7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) ^^not so bad from this angle but...good god...this car is hideous, look at the link!!! Persan December 14th, 2008, 04:18 PM Saipa unveils new Iranian car PRESS TV (http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=78363§ionid=351020102) | December 14, 2008 Iranian automaker Saipa has unveiled its newly-designed domestically-manufactured 'Miniator' -- planned to hit the markets next year. At the inauguration of the Miniator production line on Saturday, Saipa CEO Mehrdad Bazrpash said the company plans to manufacture an annual 200,000 units of the car. Miniator averages 7 liters of gasoline per 100 kilometers and puts out 80 horsepower with a displacement of 1500cc, ISNA reported. Bazrpash said the automaker is already seeking to establish a foothold for the car in markets in the Middle East, Africa, Central Asia and Latin America. According to Saipa, the retail price of the car would not exceed US $10,000 when it enters the markets in the next year. http://www.presstv.com/photo/20081213/davari20081213182942578.jpg The new Saipa Rather ugly if you ask me, but a very good step in the right direction! mahdial_x5 December 14th, 2008, 08:42 PM ^^hey man, thanks for the info:) 10000? does that mean more than a kia pride?! btw guys, i dunno if i told you all, but, last year when i was there, cars would never depreciate in value! for exaample, we bought a brand new peugeot persia, for 16,500,000 tomans, and then we sold it one year after for 17,000,000.... of course, the riyal depreciates so much...because the price of a new persia after a year was then 18000000 tomans, but still... sinasina December 14th, 2008, 09:16 PM ^^hey man, thanks for the info:) 10000? does that mean more than a kia pride?! btw guys, i dunno if i told you all, but, last year when i was there, cars would never depreciate in value! for exaample, we bought a brand new peugeot persia, for 16,500,000 tomans, and then we sold it one year after for 17,000,000.... of course, the riyal depreciates so much...because the price of a new persia after a year was then 18000000 tomans, but still... i like the powerfull engine of peugoet persia:cheers: Rahmani December 15th, 2008, 10:35 AM ^^hey man, thanks for the info:) 10000? does that mean more than a kia pride?! btw guys, i dunno if i told you all, but, last year when i was there, cars would never depreciate in value! for exaample, we bought a brand new peugeot persia, for 16,500,000 tomans, and then we sold it one year after for 17,000,000.... of course, the riyal depreciates so much...because the price of a new persia after a year was then 18000000 tomans, but still... This is a typical mistake homeowners in the US, EU, UK, Iran and most of the world make. They forget the devaluation of money. The purhsasing power of 17.000.000 has been lost with around 18% (inflation). So Selling your car for 17.000.000 after 1 year is like selling it for 13.940.000. So it deed loose its value. Not even taking the currency devaluation into calculation. It see it all the time with home owners. Someone buys a house in 2000 for 200.000 euro's, inflation is 2.5% a year and the morgage intrest is 6% a year. In 2005 they sell their house for 220.000 and are happy that they made 20.000 euro! If you calculate it, then they should have sold it for atleast 300.000 just to break-even. Rahmani December 15th, 2008, 10:38 AM Here are some more pictures of the new car http://www.tehrantimes.com/news/10485/14_NS113.jpg http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2008/12/15/302973.1-lg.jpg http://www.payvand.com/news/08/dec/Iranian-Car-Miniator4.jpg http://www.payvand.com/news/08/dec/Iranian-Car-Miniator1.jpg http://www.khosoof.com/photo/00441-04-miniatur.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8709/ImageReports/8709230959/5_8709230959_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8709/ImageReports/8709230959/12_8709230959_L600.jpg http://picbite.com/tempimages/o10687ytjgk.jpg Not bad for Iran. Atleast it does not look like something from 1990! More like 2000 ;) But the wheels seem to be too small Persan December 15th, 2008, 03:14 PM ^^ What's the mileage on that car? gole_hayahou December 15th, 2008, 08:48 PM it looks....inbred.... Rahmani December 15th, 2008, 09:09 PM @Persan It will do about 14KM per liter on the highway and 9KM per liter in the city. For US readers, that is 34MPG on the highway and 21MPG in the city. Not that good for european standards, good for Iranian standards and excellent for US standards ;) shugs December 15th, 2008, 11:50 PM what a horrid looking car DingoBingo December 18th, 2008, 05:11 PM Those cars look so gay! why do they even bother producing them? sarbaze tabarestan December 20th, 2008, 03:18 PM iran has a very dynamiccar industry!these are the first steps ps:karlsruhe sucks!1.fc köln rules!:banana: some pics from the news samand!they willshow it in 3 month! http://www.irandefence.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=35447&stc=1&d=1229704397 http://www.irandefence.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=35448&stc=1&d=1229704397 http://www.irandefence.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=35449&stc=1&d=1229704397 its a prototype! mahdial_x5 December 21st, 2008, 12:31 AM ^^ and its damn ugly... it looks as if its the same platform, like, EXACTLY the same platform as the 206SD... im thinking its a "new" 206... not a samand...it doesnt look anything like the samand chassis... i see the word "ARTEL" or somthing on the back... & its completely a 206. DingoBingo December 21st, 2008, 01:01 AM ps:karlsruhe sucks!1.fc köln rules!:banana: Watch ur mouth! U looking for trouble? jk ;) shugs December 21st, 2008, 03:09 AM ^^ and its damn ugly... it looks as if its the same platform, like, EXACTLY the same platform as the 206SD... im thinking its a "new" 206... not a samand...it doesnt look anything like the samand chassis... i see the word "ARTEL" or somthing on the back... & its completely a 206. Yeah you can tell it's a 206sd from shape of the door line... http://www.irandefence.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=35448&stc=1&d=1229704397 http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/3316/206sdmainqo1.jpg mahdial_x5 December 21st, 2008, 07:07 AM ^^ :yes: precisely Rahmani December 21st, 2008, 11:12 AM Although Iran is not making amazing cars, it is making progress. Yes, these cars are not the best looking, but in terms of design, safety and luxury they are much, much beter than the Paykan. Iran has 400.000 car accidents a year and around 50.000 fatal accidents! Hopefuly these cars can contribute to reducing those fatal accidents, although educating people about how to drive, will also be a major improvement. The car shown above is indeed based on the 206 sedan and it is not the new Samand! But a prototype new car by Iran Khodro. On the car is says ARTEL and not SAMAND. Persan December 25th, 2008, 01:45 AM Proton To Go Deeper Into Iranian Market MNNA (http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/newsindex.php?id=380235) | December 24, 2008 Malaysia's Proton Holdings Bhd aims to push 5,000 Proton vehicles in the Iranian market this year, 10,000 in 2009 and work its way to eventually reach 50,000 units beyond that. Its managing director Datuk Syed Zainal Abidin Syed Mohamed Tahir said Iran represented a big potential for Proton, with the total industry volume in this Islamic republic of 70 million people hovering at about 1.4 million cars a year. "The car-per-population ratio here is about one to 10, so there's still a long way to go in terms of maturity. Obviously it's matter of giving the right products to the right market. If you look at, say, only 10 percent of the market share, that's already 140,000 cars," he told Malaysian journalists covering the visit of Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi to Iran. Yesterday, Abdullah witnessed the signing of an agreement between Proton and its Iranian partner, Zagross Khodro, for the supply of automotive parts that allows the latter to assemble the Proton Gen.2 model through a completely knocked-down (CKD) arrangement. The first production of the model is expected to start in April 2009 at Zagross' vehicle assembly plant in Borujerd city, southwest of Iran, with a production capacity of 25,000 units per year. "Right now we don't have any investment (in Iran). We provide the technical support for the assembly, the training. But I think in the long term, we have to see whether there is any opportunity for us to invest in Iran," said Syed Zainal Abidin. Touching on Proton's presence in this country, he said: "So far we have CKD for the Wira and the Gen.2 is the next step. Going forward, we hope to introduce the Saga and Persona models next year." The Proton Waja, called the Impian here, can be seen roaming the streets of Tehran as taxis. [ FULL STORY (http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/newsindex.php?id=380235) ] HangPC2 January 7th, 2009, 04:20 AM Proton GEN2 to be assembled in Iran An agreement has been inked between Proton and Iranian distributor Zagross Khodro for the supply of automotive parts to Iran which will allow Zagross Khodro to assemble CKD kits of the Proton GEN2 in Iran. Assembling the Proton GEN2 locally in Iran will enable more competitive pricing. The first locally assembled Proton GEN2s are expected to roll off Iranian assembly lines in April 2009 from Zagross Khodro’s assembly plant in Borujerd city, southwest of Iran. The two companies have previously inked two other agreements on licensing, technical assistance and equipment purchase. Proton and Zagross Khodro’s CKD partnership goes back to the early 2000s where the latter assembled and sold the Proton Wira in Iran. It previously sold fully imported Proton cars in the Iranian market. Zagross Khodro was established in 1996 and claims to be Iran’s largest private automotive company. - Paul Tan - sinasina January 20th, 2009, 04:54 PM Hummer H2 in Tehran http://tehrandaily.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/hummer_h2_tehran_1.jpg http://tehrandaily.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/hummer_h2_tehran_4.jpg http://tehrandaily.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/hummer_h2_tehran_2.jpg Persan January 21st, 2009, 06:11 PM Iran carmaker to raise output despite global auto woes Reuters (http://in.reuters.com/article/asiaCompanyAndMarkets/idINDAH03926420090120?sp=true) | January 20, 2009 Iran Khodro, the Middle East's biggest carmaker, said on Tuesday it aims to boost output and exports in coming years despite a global downturn for the sector and Western sanctions on the country that have pushed up costs. Manouchehr Manteghi, chief executive and president of the partly-state-owned Iranian company, also said it wants to reduce its dependence on foreign-made components and that it is ready to be privatised if the government so decided. He told reporters Iran Khodro was profitable but did not give figures. He also played down the impact of sanctions and the world financial crisis. "Despite the recession in the global car industry we are facing a very resilient and strong market domestically," Hamidreza Taghavinejad, deputy president for strategy and planning, said at the same news conference. But an industry consultant said Iran Khodro, which like other Iranian vehicle manufacturers enjoys high tariff protection, needed to improve productivity and had lost market share in Iran to domestic rival Saipa. "(For) three to four years, Saipa has had much better performance than Iran Khodro," said the consultant, who declined to be named. Manteghi said Iran Khodro aims to raise efficiency without changing its workforce and plans to increase production to 1 million cars and pick-up trucks by 2011-12 from 545,000 units in 2007-08. It has partnerships with global carmakers, such as a joint venture with France's Renault to make the no-frills Logan, sold in Iran as the Tondar-90, and also Peugeot's PEUL.PA 206 and 405 models. "CLOSED MARKET" France is among the Western countries that have pushed for tougher punitive measures on Iran over nuclear work they suspect is aimed at making bombs, a charge Tehran denies. Manteghi said imports for making Peugeot cars had already come down sharply but did not spell out whether international politics played a role in company thinking. "We are trying to cut our strategic dependence on foreign manufacturers, particularly French (manufacturers)," he said at the company headquarters on the outskirts of Tehran. Manteghi said increased self-sufficiency required state support and said Iranian banks were reducing lending to the industry, whereas struggling carmakers elsewhere in the world are receiving hefty financial support from governments. Iran Khodro was in talks with Japanese companies about possible cooperation, Manteghi said, without naming them. Taghavinejad said its export earnings reached $542 million in 2007-08, much of it to other Islamic countries, and that it aims to be the Muslim world's leading producer. Iran was ranked the 16th biggest car producer in 2006. The car industry consultant said it was possible for Iran Khodro to raise output to targeted levels because the company is helped by tariffs, some of them around 100 percent, and energy subsidies. "In a closed market you can do as you want," he said, adding it was selling cars to countries Tehran had close ties with, such as Syria and Venezuela. Analysts said U.S. and U.N. sanctions imposed on Iran over its nuclear programme are making it more difficult to secure trade finance and deterring foreign investors. Manteghi acknowledged that such measures had increased costs but said they did not hinder other aspects of the business, such as access to technology. Iran Khodro's "vulnerability to sanctions is extremely low," he said. HangPC2 February 4th, 2009, 11:51 AM Diar Khodro Iran http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8238/diarkhodroiranlogoxd2.jpg Diar Automobile Company is an automobile company based in Tehran, Iran. Established in 1999, the company manufacturers SUVs and pick-ups under license from China's Changcheng, also known as Great Wall Motors. History: Sazehaye Khodro Diar Manufacturing Co. was established in 2000 for the production of vehicle body pressed parts through investment made by private sector. By installation and setting up 6 units of 500 to 2000 tons hydraulic and Heavy Stroke Presses in January 2003, the Company managed to obtain the Exploitation License for body pressed parts. In line with its developmental plans and recognizing vacant market capacity for pick-up and SUV in the country and in the region, this Company studied the feasibility to co-operate with a few world large vehicle manufacturing Companies to produce these products in Iran. The result of study and negociations with the candidate Companies, led to the selection and conclusion of an agreement with Great Wall Motor of China. GWM Co. is the largest pick-up manufacturing Co. in China. Following the agreement made with GWM Co. and having obtained the Establishment License for the production of 50,000 units of single and double cabin pick-ups as well as SUVs in 2004, the construction of a 50,000m2 plant in an area of 140,000m2 in Golpaigan township of Esfahan Province has been started. Obtaining the Exploitation License and necessary permits from the Ministry of Industry and Mines, the Standard Bureau, the Environment Protection Organisation and other related organizations, Setad-e-Tabsareh 13 (13th. Note Headquarter) for instance, presently, as the first phase, through setting up of Final Painting Lines, assembling and testing of vehicle and by making use of CKD parts and partly procurement from local sources, has started the production and delivery of Deer single cabin pick-ups. Strategy: Policies of the Company 1. To become the largest manufacturing Co. for pick-ups and SUVs in Iran. 2. Production of cars in high capacity. 3. Co-operation with international vehicle manufacturing Companies In the world. Diar’s factory is located in Golpayegan city in Esfahan province There are two industrial zone in Golpayegan. One of them is SAIPA industrial zone where Diar factory is located there. Diar’s Factory is the bigest one (from lands point of view) and will be the biggest one after totally flotation. Factory Lands: 132,900 m Constructed Buildings: 4,000 m Under Construction: 14,400 m Planed Buildings: 52,000 m http://diar-khodro.com/mainen.asp HangPC2 February 4th, 2009, 12:08 PM 2009 Saipa Miniator http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/2649/2009saipaminiator01rx1.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2009saipaminiator01rx1.jpg) http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5063/2009saipaminiator02fw4.th.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2009saipaminiator02fw4.jpg) http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8983/2009saipaminiator03ph9.th.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2009saipaminiator03ph9.jpg) http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3387/2009saipaminiator04wo3.th.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2009saipaminiator04wo3.jpg) http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5740/2009saipaminiator05ig8.th.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2009saipaminiator05ig8.jpg) http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8144/2009saipaminiator06rl9.th.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2009saipaminiator06rl9.jpg) http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5890/2009saipaminiator07ws8.th.jpg (http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2009saipaminiator07ws8.jpg) http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2112/2009saipaminiator08zi9.th.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2009saipaminiator08zi9.jpg) http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7153/2009saipaminiator09tb5.th.jpg (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2009saipaminiator09tb5.jpg) http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/6945/2009saipaminiator10it2.th.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2009saipaminiator10it2.jpg) http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/592/2009saipaminiator11jt9.th.jpg (http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2009saipaminiator11jt9.jpg) Shapoor February 7th, 2009, 10:54 PM ^^ Doesn't look so bad, at least it'll replace the ugly Peykans and Kia Prides in the streets :) Classic automobile show in Esfahan :cheers: http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8711/ImageReports/8711191665/3_8711191665_L600.jpg Air polution has hit Isfahan too :ohno: http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8711/ImageReports/8711191665/2_8711191665_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8711/ImageReports/8711191665/1_8711191665_L600.jpg One of my fav. American cars http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8711/ImageReports/8711191665/6_8711191665_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8711/ImageReports/8711191665/5_8711191665_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8711/ImageReports/8711191665/4_8711191665_L600.jpg Sexy :drool: http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8711/ImageReports/8711191665/9_8711191665_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8711/ImageReports/8711191665/7_8711191665_L600.jpg Shapoor February 7th, 2009, 11:06 PM http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8711/ImageReports/8711191665/12_8711191665_L600.jpg Would love to drive one of these in LA's streets :) http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8711/ImageReports/8711191665/10_8711191665_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8711/ImageReports/8711191665/11_8711191665_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8711/ImageReports/8711191665/16_8711191665_L600.jpg My dad used to have a Beetle :D http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8711/ImageReports/8711191665/15_8711191665_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8711/ImageReports/8711191665/14_8711191665_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8711/ImageReports/8711191665/19_8711191665_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8711/ImageReports/8711191665/18_8711191665_L600.jpg The awesomeness just doubled :drool: http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8711/ImageReports/8711191665/17_8711191665_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8711/ImageReports/8711191665/21_8711191665_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8711/ImageReports/8711191665/20_8711191665_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8711/ImageReports/8711191665/24_8711191665_L600.jpg This one is from Germany. Before the revolution a lot of Iranians travelled to Germany and bought Mercedes cars when coming back. Back then some didn't use airplanes. http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8711/ImageReports/8711191665/23_8711191665_L600.jpg Chevrolet is greatness, Chevrolet is beauty, Chevrolet is love :D http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8711/ImageReports/8711191665/22_8711191665_L600.jpg sinasina February 7th, 2009, 11:35 PM camaro and mustang are two of my fav:cheers: Herbicide February 8th, 2009, 07:22 PM http://64.130.220.65/Multimedia%5Cpics%5C1387%5C11%5CPhoto%5C2232.JPG TEHRAN - The world’s most powerful natural-gas-based car engine was unveiled on Saturday by the Iranian carmaker Iran Khodro under the intellectual property of the Islamic Republic of Iran. According to IRINN, the engine is to be installed on Iran Khodro’s newest product Samand Soren ELX. Iran Khodro CEO Manouchehr Manteqi said that all the design and development stages of the engine have been conducted in the company’s research center. The engine is turbocharge type, with 150hp of power and has passed EuroIV standard requirements, he said. “Its nominal power will not decline even at the height of 2,000 meters above sea level,” Manteqi noted. Samand Soren ELX is an elegant and highly safe sedan which is outfitted with air bags for front-seat passengers, security belts, a telescopic steering wheel, and other safety equipment. http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=188809 Gag Halfrunt February 10th, 2009, 12:26 AM This one is from Germany. Before the revolution a lot of Iranians travelled to Germany and bought Mercedes cars when coming back. Back then some didn't use airplanes. http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8711/ImageReports/8711191665/23_8711191665_L600.jpg This Mercedes has a German export plate (http://www.olavsplates.com/germany14.html#Obsolete) with an expiry date of June 1994 (94/6 on the red panel). I was going to say that the car had come to Iran long after the revolution, but looking closer I see that the plate has several different sets of bolt holes, so perhaps the owner got it from another car and is using it to give his Benz an 'authentic' German look. Shapoor February 10th, 2009, 09:23 AM This Mercedes has a German export plate (http://www.olavsplates.com/germany14.html#Obsolete) with an expiry date of June 1994 (94/6 on the red panel). I was going to say that the car had come to Iran long after the revolution, but looking closer I see that the plate has several different sets of bolt holes, so perhaps the owner got it from another car and is using it to give his Benz an 'authentic' German look. Thanks for the helpful info :) I was talking about Mercedes cars in general though not the pictured one HangPC2 February 14th, 2009, 07:17 PM 2009 IKCO Soren ELX http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1646/2009sorenelx01rg2.th.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2009sorenelx01rg2.jpg) http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7629/2009sorenelx02eq0.th.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2009sorenelx02eq0.jpg) http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/9573/2009sorenelx03tg6.th.jpg (http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2009sorenelx03tg6.jpg) http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/9520/2009sorenelx04fo6.th.jpg (http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2009sorenelx04fo6.jpg) http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4061/2009sorenelx05sh2.th.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2009sorenelx05sh2.jpg) http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7319/2009sorenelx06oq6.th.jpg (http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2009sorenelx06oq6.jpg) http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8808/2009sorenelx07qw9.th.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2009sorenelx07qw9.jpg) http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3733/2009sorenelx08bz6.th.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2009sorenelx08bz6.jpg) http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1026/2009sorenelx09ct4.th.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2009sorenelx09ct4.jpg) Herbicide February 25th, 2009, 01:35 AM Iran could jump a few places in the world leugue table of car manufacturers! It already makes more cars than Italy and with car factories in the west halting production for months on end some countries are bound to fall a few places down past Iran as I dont think factories in Iran are scaling back significantly or predicted to. In 2009 Iran could probably make more cars than the UK and perhaps Russia putting it in maybe 12th place. Shapoor February 27th, 2009, 05:19 PM Traffic police car exhibition http://www.wirgool.com/fa/img/166-f.jpg I saw an article about Hyundai Coupe coming to Iran in this thread. Well, here it is: http://www.wirgool.com/fa/img/161-f.jpg http://www.wirgool.com/fa/img/162-f.jpg http://www.wirgool.com/fa/img/164-f.jpg Xantia with the new facelift on the right. Looks much better now, infact this is the best facelift Iranian automakers have ever done in my opinion. http://www.wirgool.com/fa/img/165-f.jpg http://www.wirgool.com/fa/img/163-f.jpg Persiancat February 27th, 2009, 09:23 PM ^^I can't believe that Iranian police has gone so modern:cheers:! The time I was in Iran, police cars were mainly Peykans and Peugeots. Shapoor February 27th, 2009, 10:07 PM The police cars have gone very classy for sure. I remember those days when 405s and Peykans ruled the streets too. Now Peykans are just good for speedy pedestrians lol sinasina February 27th, 2009, 10:58 PM 1) I went to VW in Tehran-shariati RD, apparently it was their Van site, i asked the guy do you sell VW gol , he said no, i asked him so where they sell it, he said, go down the street maybe there is still a branch there!:nuts: 2) Shapoor, Hyaundai has been imported to iran for couple of years now, but i never seen Hyaundai Police car, here are the new ones: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_69A5hotwPJc/RnBEiDHjsmI/AAAAAAAAAGQ/t5M1t1T_s7c/s1600/MB%2BCop%2Bcar.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_69A5hotwPJc/RnBEiDHjsoI/AAAAAAAAAGg/CANPBfrf4vo/s1600/Mercedes%2BBenz%2BE240%2BHighway%2BPatrol.jpg E-class, Highway Patrol police vehicle. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_69A5hotwPJc/RnBEiDHjsnI/AAAAAAAAAGY/QBD-9n-wFVA/s1600/Mercedes%2BBenz%2BC200%2BCity%2BPatrol.jpg C-Class, City Patrol police vehicle. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_69A5hotwPJc/RnBERzHjsjI/AAAAAAAAAF4/b5sB4tRgs7c/s1600/982004.bmp http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_69A5hotwPJc/RnBEiTHjspI/AAAAAAAAAGo/Xfi3LkpHoBM/s1600/Toyota%2BLand%2BCruiser%2BSPECIAL%2BUNIT.jpg Special Unit police vehicle. 3) Samand x12 http://i40.tinypic.com/se0gnl.jpg http://i43.tinypic.com/dqndyc.jpg They change the Front and rear light, and they call a different car! Take 206 SD to any Tuning SHop they will do a better job! Shapoor February 28th, 2009, 02:21 PM 1) I went to VW in Tehran-shariati RD, apparently it was their Van site, i asked the guy do you sell VW gol , he said no, i asked him so where they sell it, he said, go down the street maybe there is still a branch there!:nuts: 2) Shapoor, Hyaundai has been imported to iran for couple of years now, but i never seen Hyaundai Police car, here are the new ones: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_69A5hotwPJc/RnBEiDHjsmI/AAAAAAAAAGQ/t5M1t1T_s7c/s1600/MB%2BCop%2Bcar.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_69A5hotwPJc/RnBEiDHjsoI/AAAAAAAAAGg/CANPBfrf4vo/s1600/Mercedes%2BBenz%2BE240%2BHighway%2BPatrol.jpg E-class, Highway Patrol police vehicle. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_69A5hotwPJc/RnBEiDHjsnI/AAAAAAAAAGY/QBD-9n-wFVA/s1600/Mercedes%2BBenz%2BC200%2BCity%2BPatrol.jpg C-Class, City Patrol police vehicle. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_69A5hotwPJc/RnBERzHjsjI/AAAAAAAAAF4/b5sB4tRgs7c/s1600/982004.bmp http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_69A5hotwPJc/RnBEiTHjspI/AAAAAAAAAGo/Xfi3LkpHoBM/s1600/Toyota%2BLand%2BCruiser%2BSPECIAL%2BUNIT.jpg Special Unit police vehicle. 3) Samand x12 http://i40.tinypic.com/se0gnl.jpg http://i43.tinypic.com/dqndyc.jpg They change the Front and rear light, and they call a different car! Take 206 SD to any Tuning SHop they will do a better job! The same exact thing is with toyota, they've got TOYOTA Iran (http://www.toyota-iran.com/) and IRTOYA (http://www.irtoya.org/) :lol: I know about the Hyundais, they only used to have Verna and Sonata now they have Azera, Santa Fe and Coupe on their list too. I hope that 206 Samand clay model never becomes real :ohno: shugs February 28th, 2009, 02:33 PM I own/drive a Hyundai Coupe in Britain :lol: sinasina February 28th, 2009, 02:42 PM I own/drive a Hyundai Coupe in Britain :lol: Hyaundai is not that bad, l like the Coupe:cheers: shugs February 28th, 2009, 02:51 PM ^ I didn't say it was, I love my car :) The one in the pics above is the S3, latest facelift version of the coupe... I have seen the second facelift version in Iran before... I have the 2.0l first version of the new coupe from 2003 http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2445/08012009078vg8.jpg sinasina February 28th, 2009, 04:27 PM nice, but i assume the insurance would be rocket high? especially for young drivers, i passed few months ago and it would cost me at least 800quid to get insured on a 1.0 toyota yaris:ohno: DingoBingo February 28th, 2009, 04:29 PM ^^ UK is gay, they charge u so much money for little service! shugs February 28th, 2009, 05:26 PM At first I had my father has the policy holder (fully comp) with a few years no claims bonus which dropped the price right down. Then we switched to Admiral which gives named drivers no claims as well as the policy holder... So now I have a couple of years no claims bonus it's not so bad at about £500... but my excess is pretty steep (£250) if I have an accident. As well as the price of insurance, the tax band is high (E) so £215/year road tax and the fuel consumption burns a hole in my pocket... But I'm not complaining! sinasina February 28th, 2009, 06:06 PM ^^^^ Ouch!:lol: Persiancat February 28th, 2009, 06:19 PM Iran Khodro has produced some 534 thousand units of different passenger cars since the beginning of the Iranian current year (March 20, 2008), 43 thousand units more than the same period last year. http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/9022/carrrrrrrrrr.gif IKCO’s vice president in Total Product System, Hussein Najari, expressed the above mentioned and said:" some 77409 units of Samands in different types, 110289 units of Peugeot 405, 69578 units of Peugeot Pars, and 38919 units of Peugeot 206 hatchback has been produced in IKCO so far." Najari also added:" 39480 units of Peugeot 206 SD, 78223 units of Roa, 90112 units of Bardo Pick-ups, 36756 units of Tondar 90, 3219 units of Grand Vitara and 155 units of Mercedes have been produced in the same period as well." http://news.ikco.com/en/webmodules/news/Newsview.aspx?newsseq=7490 Persiancat February 28th, 2009, 06:21 PM "I hope to see IKCO as one of the world's top five carmakers." Engineer Sadegh Mahsouli, Minister of the interior, said during unveiling ceremony of the 2nd National Engine and Soren ELX and added, "In order to support the country's auto industry, they should be financially supported and equipped with necessary facilities and resources needed for car export." http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2896/100thn.jpg http://news.ikco.com/en/webmodules/news/Newsview.aspx?newsseq=7470 iman08 March 1st, 2009, 01:36 AM I read somewere in IKCO's website, that they will unveil their second "national car" next week on Saturday 7th March 2009 (17th Esfand 1387). They have not chose/finalized the name of the car, but the the codename of the car is X12. The price will be around 10 000 000 toman (around 10 000 €).This car will use one type of the EF7 (first national engine).The environment-standard will be Euro4. It will be one of the safest cars of IKCO and the standards of the car are comparable with the ones of Soren ELX. ------ ------ They are working on the first national bus. It will be unveiled soon (They wanted to unveil it in Bahman 1387- February 2009, but it seems, that it will be unveiled with a delay. Shapoor March 1st, 2009, 08:06 PM BBC Persian (http://www.bbc.co.uk/persian/business/2009/02/090228_ka_irankhodro_afghan.shtml)-ایران خودرو در افغانستان خط تولید ایجاد می کند http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/assets/images/2009/02/090228195658_soren-226-a.jpg http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/assets/images/2009/02/090228195654_samand.226-ajpg.jpg شرکت ایران خودرو بزرگترین خودروساز ایران با همکاری شرکای افغان برای تولید خودرو در افغانستان 20 میلیون دلار سرمایه گذاری می کند. خبرگزاری دانشجویان ایران گزارش داده که گروهی از مدیران یک شرکت وابسته به ایران خودرو با مسئولان اتاق تجارت و صنایع افغانستان در باره تاسیس و راه اندازی یک واحد تولید خودرو در کابل مذاکره کرده اند. مدیران شرکت بازرگانی همگام که یکی از شرکت های وابسته به ایران خودرو است، با مدیران اتاق صنایع افغانستان توافق کرده اند که یک کارخانه تولید خودروهای ایرانی در ولایت هرات در افغانستان ساخته شود. ایران خودرو بزرگترین خودروساز ایران است و سالانه حدود 550 هزار دستگاه خودرو تولید می کند و تاکنون در کشورهای ونزوئلا، سنگال، روسیه سفید، سوریه و آذربایجان کارخانجاتی را برای تولید خودرو احداث کرده است. در ایران سالانه بیشتر از یک میلیون خودرو تولید می شود که شرکت ایران خودرو بیشتر از نیمی از آن را تولید می کند. در کارخانه ایران خودرو انواع خودروهای پژو تولید تولید می شود و خودروهای ایرانی سمند نیز یکی از محصولات این شرکت است. سید فخرالدین حیدری منش مدیرعامل شرکت همگام گفته است: "تاسیس و راه اندازی مراکز تولید خودرو در افغانستان با توجه به بازار آزاد این کشور یک تحول محسوب می شود و تاجران افغان می توانند با سرمایه گذاری در این بخش از ظرفیت و پتانسیل جاری نهایت بهره را ببرند. مقامات ایرانی ابراز امیدواری کرده اند که سرمایه گذاران افغان نیز در این پروژه مشارکت کنند. محمد قربان حق جو رئیس هیات مدیره اتاق تجارت و صنایع افغانستان گفته است که این کشور بهترین بازار برای فروش خودرو است چون تقاضا برای خودروهای جدید وجود دارد. در سالهای اخیر ورود خودروهای کهنه و دست دوم باعث مشکلاتی نظیر آلودگی هوا و مشکلات زیست محیطی شده است. به گفته آقای حق جو، می خواهیم آهسته آهسته و طبق یک برنامه هدفمند به جای استفاده از خودروهای کهنه و فرسوده، خودورهای جدید و نو را جایگزین کنیم. مقامات افغان آمادگی خود را برای همکاری در زمینه تولید خودرو در آن کشور اعلام کرده اند. خان جان الکوزی معاون هیات مدیره اتاق تجارت افغانستان گفته است: "افغانستان قبرستان خوروهای کهنه است و تاسیس و راه اندازی کارخانه تولید خودرو در افغانستان علاقمندان زیادی خواهد داشت و تجربه نشان داده است که سرمایه گذاری در این بخش هیچ ریسکی ندارد." Persiancat March 3rd, 2009, 09:54 PM ^^Great news! let's spread'em 'round!:) Persiancat March 4th, 2009, 01:06 AM 3 March 2009 Iran Khodro’s Tuned Tondar 90 Unveiled :) ^^Tuned Tondar 90, the second product of Option Cars Company (OPCO), was unveiled in the presence of Iran Khodro officials and a number of reporters at Olympic Hotel, Tehran. The OPCO Managing Director Mohsen Pour-Saeidi talking in the unveiling ceremony said the engine of Tondar 90 functions well and the car’s parts, like other sports cars’, have simple designs. http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7139/gdwvf0ypfrg14555lf4mtl4k.jpg Totally 96 parts have been designed or changed, said the OPCO chief, referring to front bumper, new grille, new fog lights, running boards, fender turn signal, fold-up turn signal side mirrors, new rear bumper, and trunk door. According to him, the mass production of the car will start in late July 2009. Iran Khodro Company and Iran Khodro Sales and After-Sales Service Company (ISACO) plan to export the tuned Tondar 90 to Turkey and Syria, revealed Pour-Saeidi. The managing director said the car will be commercialized after getting approval from Institute of Standards and Industrial Research of Iran (ISIRI), Department of the Environment (DOE), and the Islamic Republic of Iran Police (IRIP). Samand Sayana was the first new product of the Option Cars Company and Peugeot Pars is the next, he concluded. http://news.ikco.com/en/webmodules/news/Newsview.aspx?newsseq=7528 Shapoor March 4th, 2009, 06:10 PM I like the new look. But if they havent changed the motor and brake discs I don't think anyone would pay extra to buy it. Persiancat March 4th, 2009, 06:20 PM ^^I would pay extra for that, The design is amazing!specially the wheels:) flaviodenovaro March 9th, 2009, 12:03 AM I hope someone can help me here, I am making a research for my boss about automotive production, and I am looking for the figures of car production in Iran of the 2008 year. I have just the numbers of 2007 ( 997,240 motor vehicles produced), Can someone help me? thanks for your time Flavio - Brazil Herbicide March 9th, 2009, 01:04 AM I cant find exact figures but Tehran Times reports that Saipa and IKCOs combined production broke the million cars annual production in 2008 in a 10% increase on 2007 they got that information from the IDRO. This doesnt include the other manufacturers in Iran but do account for 94% so you could conclude that production is up by roughly 10% overall (just under 1.1 million). Cant find exact figures but if you know someone that can read Farsi/Persian the IDRO website may have more figures as they dont translate everything for the English site. Also production by IKCO and joint venture plants abroad will be up more significantly in 2008. http://www.tehrantimes.com/Index_view.asp?code=186398 http://www.idro.org/portal/ Persiancat March 9th, 2009, 03:03 AM Newly Designed Soren to Head to Turkey 23 July 2008 Samand TU5 with automatic gearbox and Samand Soren with a new design have been made for the Turkish market. Iran Khodro Asia-Pacific zone exports manager said the Samand sedan has received a good welcome in the Turkish market, adding that Samand TU5 with a 1600cc engine is now available for sale in the neighboring state. http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/5850/carz.jpg “The demand for Samand TU5, due to low fuel consumption and high power, is high in Turkey and we are faced with low supply,” said the official. He added that one thousand units of Samand have come ton the Turkish market, noting that the rich variety of top brands in Turkey necessitates Iran Khodro to add variety to its products in the market, as well. Given the high price of fuel in Turkey, the production of Samand with diesel engine is under study and the project is expected to go on stream within the next two years, Mohammad Hassan Yazdi continued. Referring to Turkish people’s interest in the products of the Islamic states, the export manager noted that joint borders as well as religious and cultural commonalities have prepared a proper ground for Iran Khodro in the neighboring country as the company has received a satisfactory welcome during a short time. He, however, mentioned that on-time delivery, desirable quality, competitive price, and suitable after-sale service play vital roles in foreign trade. http://news.ikco.com/en/webmodules/news/Newsview.aspx?newsseq=5936 Shapoor March 9th, 2009, 10:12 AM Soren's new grille design. I got it from a fellow car designer I know in Iran Khodro :P http://i40.tinypic.com/4rz39t.jpg Sorry for the large size :) sinasina March 10th, 2009, 11:35 PM ^^ Thanks Is that the Soren ELX ? Shapoor March 10th, 2009, 11:45 PM ^^ yup. I think the 1st grille design is better though. Shapoor April 5th, 2009, 08:39 PM New Mercedes SL http://i42.tinypic.com/2enz2w7.jpg http://i40.tinypic.com/2dhzo0z.jpg http://i42.tinypic.com/npl8xg.jpg http://i40.tinypic.com/ndmqer.jpg The old models: http://i39.tinypic.com/x247x0.jpg The 3 rivals http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3126/3379583899_7451b099b5_b.jpg BMW X5 in Tehran - I wonder why they have "gozar movaghat" number plates when you already can buy BMWs in Iran... http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3054/3379570579_9fc9a44655_b.jpg Herbicide April 5th, 2009, 10:08 PM ^^ What have these got to do with Iran? Maybe better to discuss these in the Germany forum. Herbicide April 6th, 2009, 08:45 PM IKCO announces second national car: 6 April 2009 - Time 2:15 PM Iran Khodro’s 2nd National Brand in the Offing http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/admin/Uploadimages/v1zte455bg2xkf55w32sb055x12.jpg The second car bearing the ‘national brand’ will be unveiled in the presence of high-ranking officials in the near future, announced the managing director of Iran Khodro Industrial Group. Manouchehr Manteghi added the first national car, Samand, was produced as its body was firstly designed and the national engine and axel were designed and made later. Now, continued the managing director, the group has the technical know-how for the design and manufacture of auto platform that has paved the way for producing its second national car. The upcoming car is the outcome of IKCO’s nearly half a century experience of automaking and cooperation with top international carmakers, Manteghi said. He described Samand as a successful industrial ambassador of the Islamic Republic of Iran in target markets, referring to the simultaneous production and supply of the second national brand in Iran Khodro’s domestic and overseas sites as an advantage of its new make. Designing the second national brand, Iran Khodro has fully acquired the technical know-how for designing and producing vehicles in accordance with latest international standards, said the giant automaker chief. Coded as X12 Project, the new car has been designed in a way to meet Iranian and foreign customers’ needs including perfect safety, great beauty, and reasonable price. The C-Class X12 car has the capacity to receive a great variety of engines and equipment and therefore offers the clients the chance to choose their favorite models, said the managing director of Iran Khodro Industrial Group, assuring that the product will play an effective role in increasing the shares in domestic market and boosting the exports of the country’s auto industry. http://news.ikco.com/en/webmodules/news/Newsview.aspx?newsseq=7631 This'll be the 206 based "ARTEL" that we've seen sneek pics of before. Shapoor April 6th, 2009, 08:56 PM ^^ Oh my God noooooo. It looks ridiculous, how could they do that an icon car that will never be recognized as anything else than itself, just shows how IKCO is fooling itself by wanting to prove they have variety and creativity this way! ^^ What have these got to do with Iran? Foreign car imports iman08 April 7th, 2009, 12:03 AM The text is about 10 new products IKCO wants to unveil in 1388 (March 2009 to March 2010) (but as you know not all of them are "new products" - for example they call a 405 which is automatic a new product... for everyone who can read farsi (link: http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/newsview.aspx?newsseq=7628 ) : عرضه 10 مدل جديد دكتر منطقي پروژه NX7 را كه به منظور ارايه مدل جديد سمند همراه با ارتقاي سيستم هاي پلاتفرمي تعريف شده از جمله پروژه هاي برتر گروه صنعتي در سال 88 دانست و اظهار داشت: اين محصول بر اساس آپشن هاي مختلف در سه واريانت EL,LX,ELX در بهمن ماه 88 رونمايي و در سه ماهه اول 89 عرضه مي شود. وي از رونمايي دومين خودرو با برند ملي ايران خودرو درآينده نزديك خبر داد و آن را يكي ديگر از رويدادهاي مهم سال 88 عنوان كرد . دكتر منطقي همچنين از عرضه خودروي مردمي در سايت هاي خارج از كشور تا شهريور ماه 88 خبر داد. وي گفت: پژو 207 نيز با مشاركت 50 درصدي پژو فرانسه در بهمن سال 88 عرضه مي شود. دكتر منطقي افزود: به منظور تسلط بر بازار وانت كشور و تكميل سبد وانت ايران خودرو براي بازارهاي داخلي و خارجي، وانت هاي لوكس ايران خودرو خراسان نيز در تير ماه سال 88 به بازار خواهد آمد. پارس جديد مدير عامل ايران خودرو در ادامه گزارش خود به كاركنان شركت، اظهار داشت: مدل جديد پارس با منظر جديد و استفاده از موتور کم مصرف از محصولات جديد ايران خودرو در سال 88 است كه با هدف عرضه خودرويی با طرح مدرن تر و سطح آسايش و ايمني بيشتر از پارس معمولی ، پاسخ به استقبال بي نظير مشتريان از خودروي پارس و افزايش قدرت رقابت و حضور ايران خودرو در بخش هاي كم تيراژ خودرو هاي لوكس و سودآور عرضه مي شود. سمند و 405 با کلاچ اتوماتيک به گفته مدير عامل گروه صنعتي ايران خودرو علاوه بر پارس اتوماتيك كه درسال 87 عرضه شد ، سمند و 405 اتوماتيك در سال 88 عرضه خواهد شد كه سهولت فوق العاده در ترافيک شهری و بهبود عملکرد خودرو را در بر خواهد داشت. سوزوکی گراندويتارا با موتور 4/2 ليتری دكتر منطقي مدل جديد سوزوكي گراند ويتارا با قواي محرکه 4/2 ليتري و تجهيزات بيشتر متناسب با انتظارات مشتريان را از جمله محصولات ايران خودرو ذكر كرد كه در سال 88 عرضه مي شود. سرير سال مدير عامل ايران خودرو از طراحي و رونمايي سرير سال در سال 88 خبر داد كه به منظور كسب راهبري بازار در بخش خودروهاي لوكس و راحت، ارتقاي سطح تجهيزات رفاهی و ايمنی خودرو، عرضه محصولی با قابليت های عملکردی بالاتر و افزايش قدرت صادرات عرضه مي شود. پژو 308 وي افزود: پژو 308 نيز با هدف عرضه خودرويی با استايل جذاب و امکانات رفاهی و ايمنی کامل از ديگر محصولات سال 88 ايران خودرو خواهد بود. a short list of the products: -Peugeot 308 -Peugeot 207 -a new model of Samand which codename is NX7 - it will be presented and sold in 3 variants which are: LX, ELX. EL (this is one of the bigger projects) - it is going to be unveiled in Bahman and mass produced in the first 3 months of 1389 -the second national car will be unveiled soon (it will be exported in Shahrivar and it has passed a lot of standards...) (this is one of the bigger projects) - Peugeot 405 and the simple Samand will be presented and sold in the automatic version -Suzuki Grand Vitara will be presented with a new engine (different size) -the Samand Sarir Saal will be presented - the Samand Sarir is a luxurious car which was presented a few years ago and now the are going to present another version of it (this one is more advanced) -a new van which is going to be "luxurious" :lol: will be presented from Iran Khodro Khorasan (this is one of the bigger projects) -the Peugeot Pars with the new iranian engine (is better than the french one now used in Pars) shugs April 7th, 2009, 12:07 AM http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/admin/Uploadimages/v1zte455bg2xkf55w32sb055x12.jpg I like the new lights. iman08 April 7th, 2009, 12:12 AM the text is about the managing director of IKCO which is replaced now due he is now chosen as the vice-minister I think and the director of developing and producing of middle-size planes (I think for the Tu-204's - maybe) ... . So the managing director is now another one. link: http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/newsview.aspx?newsseq=7633 انتصاب دكتر منطقي به عنوان مشاور ارشد وزير صنايع و مسئول توليد هواپيماهاي پهن پيكر وزير صنايع و معادن امروز (دوشنبه) طي حكمي، دكتر منوچهر منطقي را به عنوان "مشاور ارشد وزير و مسئول طراحي و توليد هواپيماهاي پهن پيكر در كشور" منصوب كرد به گزارش پايگاه اطلاع رساني وزارت صنايع و معادن، مهندس علي اكبر محرابيان در حكم انتصابي خود آورده است: با توجه به اينكه طراحي و ساخت هواپيماهاي پهن پيكر جزء سياست هاي راهبردي كشور و مورد نظر مسئولان ارشد نظام مي باشد، جنابعالي كه بحمدالله داراي تعهد، تخصص و تجارب ارزنده اي مي باشيد، با اختيارات تام به عنوان مسئول تحقق اين هدف مهم تعيين مي شويد. مهندس محرابيان در اين حكم همچنين تاكيد كرده است، به جنابعالي ماموريت داده مي شود كه با تشكيل كنسرسيوم و با استفاده از تجارب كشورهاي دارنده اين فناوري نسبت به مطالعه، طراحي و ساخت هواپيماهاي پهن پيكر و بومي سازي توليد اين فناوري در كشور با بهره گيري كامل از توانمندي فني و مهندسي كليه متخصصين شايسته كشور اقدام كنيد. در حكم وزير صنايع و معادن خطاب به دكتر منطقي همچنين آمده است: با توجه به اهميت موضوع، كليه سازمان ها و نهادهاي تابعه موظف به همكاري با جنابعالي خواهند بود. گفتني است، دكتر منطقي كماكان عضو هيات مديره گروه صنعتي ايران خودرو خواهد بود. همچنين در حكمي از سوي مهندس احمد قلعه باني رئيس هيات عامل سازمان گسترش و نوسازي صنايع ايران، مهندس جواد نجم الدين به عنوان عضو هيات مديره و مديرعامل گروه صنعتي ايران خودرو منصوب شد. Herbicide April 7th, 2009, 12:58 AM http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/admin/Uploadimages/v1zte455bg2xkf55w32sb055x12.jpg I like the new lights. They should have put lights like that on the Samand Soren. They will probably put lights like this on the next Samand. But by then it will look out of date. :bash: But saying that, they are designing more and more up to date vehicles and are catching up. iman08 April 7th, 2009, 12:06 PM ^^the next Samand will be unveiled in Bahman (February 2010). but first they should use these lights on the 2nd national car (codename X12). hopefully the X12 will be unveiled as soon as possible, because I hate those Pride's and when the X12 comes to the market no one wants to buy the Kia Pride anymore. iman08 April 7th, 2009, 12:26 PM OH NO - i have bad news:ohno::ohno:. The government wants to merge IKCO with SAIPA :bash: :bash: : IKCO president dismissed, deputies resign Manouchehr Manteqi, chief executive and president of Iran Khodro, was dismissed on Sunday. Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:34:09 GMT Manouchehr Manteqi the chief executive and president of the Iran Khodro Company, the Middle East's largest automaker, has been dismissed. Following Manteqi's unexpected dismissal by Iran's minister of industry and mines on Sunday, most of his deputies have also resigned. Manteqi's dismissal came after the idea of merging Iran Khodro (IKCO) with Iran's second-largest car company, Saipa, gained ground, Tabnak reported. Javad Najmeddin, managing director of MegaMotor Co, took up the post in an official ceremony on Sunday. Manteqi did not attend the inauguration of the new chief. According to Tabnak, the new head of the IKCO has now been tasked with pursuing the merging of the two companies. Manteqi headed Iran Khodro for more than seven years and was a staunch opponent of the merge. link: http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=90662§ionid=351020102 If this will happen than it would be fatal for Iran :bash:... I am just hoping that after the elections the next government will stop this. In his 7 years Mr. Manteqi achieved many things in IKCO... :bash: Shapoor April 7th, 2009, 12:27 PM Wasn't Pride's production supposed to stop? I read this about 3 years ago on an Iranian magazine called "machine mag" Shapoor April 7th, 2009, 12:39 PM محصولات ايران خودرو به سيستم رهياب مجهز مي شود (http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/Newsview.aspx?newsseq=7623) ايران خودرو يه منظور ايجاد سهولت در مسيريابي براي سرنشينان خودروها، محصولات خود را به سيستم رهياب مجهز مي كند. محمد كامجو رييس مركز توسعه محصولات جديد ايران خودرو با اعلام اين خبر گفت: مطالعات و امكان سنجي هاي لازم براي توسعه سيستم رهياب در شهرهاي بزرگ به انجام رسيده و در سال آينده محصولات ايران خودرو به اين سيستم مجهز خواهد شد. وي افزود: اين سيستم، كه در اروپا، شرق آسيا وامريكا اجرا شده، به كاربراني كه با شهر آشنا نيستند، اين امكان را مي دهد كه بتوانند بهترين مسير براي رسيدن به مقصد خود را پيدا كنند. كامجو با اشاره به اين كه سيستم رهياب در مرحله نخست براي شهرهاي بزرگ توسعه مي يابد، اظهار داشت: تا كنون تنها 11 شهر بزرگ نقشه برداري شده و در صورتي كه تمامي سيستم هاي ترافيكي و جاده ها به شبكه ماهواره اي بپيوندد، امكان اين كه تمامي مسيرها تحت پوشش اين سيستم قرار گيرد، فراهم مي شود. رييس مركز توسعه محصولات جديد، يادآور شد: نقشه ها ونرم افزار لازم براي اين سيستم، خاص ايران است و توسط كارشناسان ايراني توسعه يافته است. Brief in English: Iran Khodro cars will have navigation systems from next year. 11 major cities already have recorded maps, but the coverage will improve. :banana: sarbaze tabarestan April 7th, 2009, 03:49 PM OH NO - i have bad news:ohno::ohno:. The government wants to merge IKCO with SAIPA :bash: :bash: : link: http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=90662§ionid=351020102 If this will happen than it would be fatal for Iran :bash:... I am just hoping that after the elections the next government will stop this. In his 7 years Mr. Manteqi achieved many things in IKCO... :bash: manteqi will lead the iranian aviation industry!they want to build tupolevs! ps:why is it bad to merge saipa and iran kkhodro? iman08 April 7th, 2009, 05:41 PM ^^ When there are two giant automaker in Iran, they try to top the other company in their product's quality & price and service .... . - but when there is just one big automaker they would be monopol and the price of the products rise, the quality is worser than before, the service isn't good anymore... . When there isn't anymore competition, when there isn't any rival then everything gets worse... . They want to do this for being more competition-able in the world market with a bigger company... - but I think this monopole car producer will be fatal for Iran itself and I think this would not help to have better chances in the world market, because they produce their cars first for Iran and then for export, so when it is monopole then they produce cars with bad quality + high price + less service which rules Iran's car company in the world market out. As you know SAIPA's managing director is a friend of Ahmadinejad and he spoiled SAIPA in his term ... and I am concerned that the new merged company will end up like SAIPA. IKCO achieved a lot in the last years, but SAIPA ...:ohno: Persan April 7th, 2009, 05:52 PM ^^ When there are two giant automaker in Iran, they try to top the other company in their product's quality & price and service .... . - but when there is just one big automaker they would be monopol and the price of the products rise, the quality is worser than before, the service isn't good anymore... You raise some good points, however this is not always true! While it is true that competition is best for price management as well as innovation, a stronger single automaker could be good for Iran in the future. Currently, the government protects the local automobile industry with heavy import duties on foreign cars. If the IRI ever gets its act together and opens up Iran's economy, Iran's automakers will not be able to compete with better financed and efficient foreign car companies. A single, strong Iranian automaker will have a chance to fight! Herbicide April 7th, 2009, 06:22 PM There are pros and cons for each situation. Pros: -Makes a real large company to rival other global car makers. -Minimises the cost of new vehicle development. -Brings efficiencies of scale. Cons: -Reduced competition in the Iranian market. -Job losses. -Money already spent on new rival Miniator and Artel small sedans, one of which could be scrapped. -Merger may not go well with a larger company emerging with a less competant or corrupt management. iman08 April 7th, 2009, 07:40 PM ^^thank you. I think the cons are more important than the pros in Iran. - especially because of the last argument of cons (-Merger may not go well with a larger company emerging with a less competant or corrupt management. ). I think IKCO and SAIPA each are large enough to compete with other car companys - and they are growing everyday... . SAIPA's management is corrupt. SAIPA doesn't have any good car in it's selling pallet and doesn't produce a good car complete itself - but IKCO is doing this since 2001... and is presenting new products every year while SAIPA lays to it's **** KIA Pride which has low safety standards... . iman08 April 7th, 2009, 07:52 PM Wasn't Pride's production supposed to stop? I read this about 3 years ago on an Iranian magazine called "machine mag" They say many things.... - they didn't even plan to stop it's production... . Due there is no cheap car in Iran like the Pride, people buy it despite the fact that it has a very low quality. SAIPA made a lot of profit, because it produces it in laaaarge numbers (as I know it is the most produced car in Iran), so it does everything to keep the production until the car has buyers. After Peykan I hate Pride, but the production of Peykan was stopped four years ago... . Fortunately there is coming a national car (the 2nd national car - X12 of IKCO) which competes with this car and I am sure it will have much better features and it is national:banana:. shugs April 7th, 2009, 07:57 PM They should have put lights like that on the Samand Soren. They will probably put lights like this on the next Samand. But by then it will look out of date. :bash: But saying that, they are designing more and more up to date vehicles and are catching up. From that image it looks as though they have modelled it around the Volvo C30, while it is actually based on the 206. Not a bad end result really... http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4753/mrswedenvolvoc30d51.jpg http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/admin/Uploadimages/v1zte455bg2xkf55w32sb055x12.jpg Persiancat April 7th, 2009, 09:19 PM They say many things.... - they didn't even plan to stop it's production... . Due there is no cheap car in Iran like the Pride, people buy it despite the fact that it has a very low quality. SAIPA made a lot of profit, because it produces it in laaaarge numbers (as I know it is the most produced car in Iran), so it does everything to keep the production until the car has buyers. After Peykan I hate Pride, but the production of Peykan was stopped four years ago... . Fortunately there is coming a national car (the 2nd national car - X12 of IKCO) which competes with this car and I am sure it will have much better features and it is national:banana:. ^^yes ur right. Pride is rated the unsafest car in iran. i will never ride that car in iran again. it feels like a moving tomb. i mean accidents happen right? but you don't want your car to be smashed like it's made up of paper. iman08 April 11th, 2009, 12:38 PM They will unveil the X12 next week and Manouchehr Manteqi will do this and he is going to say goodbye to Iran Khodro as the managing director. link : http://news.ikco.com/en/webmodules/news/newsview.aspx?newsseq=7631 Iran Khodro’s 2nd National Brand in the Offing The second car bearing the ‘national brand’ will be unveiled in the presence of high-ranking officials in the near future, announced the managing director of Iran Khodro Industrial Group. Manouchehr Manteghi added the first national car, Samand, was produced as its body was firstly designed and the national engine and axel were designed and made later. Now, continued the managing director, the group has the technical know-how for the design and manufacture of auto platform that has paved the way for producing its second national car. The upcoming car is the outcome of IKCO’s nearly half a century experience of automaking and cooperation with top international carmakers, Manteghi said. He described Samand as a successful industrial ambassador of the Islamic Republic of Iran in target markets, referring to the simultaneous production and supply of the second national brand in Iran Khodro’s domestic and overseas sites as an advantage of its new make. Designing the second national brand, Iran Khodro has fully acquired the technical know-how for designing and producing vehicles in accordance with latest international standards, said the giant automaker chief. Coded as X12 Project, the new car has been designed in a way to meet Iranian and foreign customers’ needs including perfect safety, great beauty, and reasonable price. The C-Class X12 car has the capacity to receive a great variety of engines and equipment and therefore offers the clients the chance to choose their favorite models, said the managing director of Iran Khodro Industrial Group, assuring that the product will play an effective role in increasing the shares in domestic market and boosting the exports of the country’s auto industry. iman08 April 11th, 2009, 01:07 PM IKCO has opened the first (online) dynamic navigator of Iran on it's service website. You can access the site on www.emdadkhodro.com . There the navigator can find the routes and the best routes between the cities for you. I don't know, but I think the service is for IKCO buyers who have the golden card. Here is the article in farsi with more details link: http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/newsview.aspx?newsseq=7647 : اولين موتور جست وجوي ديناميك مسير يابي راه هاي كشور راه اندازي شد موتور جست وجوي مسير ( Routing ) به نام رهيار " جهت مسير يابي براي اولين بار در پايگاه اطلاع رساني" امداد خودرو ايران راه اندازي شد. به گزارش روابط عمومي امداد خودرو ايران ، اين شركت با توجه به نياز مخاطبان در خصوص دريافت آخرين اطلاعات مربوط به مسيريابي بين شهري، امكانات جاده اي بين راه، طول مسير، امكان انتخاب مناسب ترين مسير و همچنين اطلاعات مربوط به تعداد مراكز ارايه سوخت، اورژانس ها، پليس راه،اكيپ هاي امدادي، مكان هاي ارايه تسهيلات، پايگاه هاي امداد خودروي ايران، جاده هاي پر خطر ، اقدام به ايجاد اين سيستم كرده است. بنا بر اين گزارش مراجعه كنندگان مي توانند قبل از سفر اطلاعات كافي از مبداء تا مقصد را در كوتاه ترين زمان ممكن از سيستم "رهيار" به نشاني www.emdadkhodro.com به دست آورند. لازم به ذكر است، اين سيستم از ابتداي سال 1388 در سايت امداد خودروي ايران قابل دسترسي است. Achzillian April 11th, 2009, 02:21 PM Beautiful threat merci :cheers: iman08 April 12th, 2009, 01:01 PM ^^you are welcome. -------------------------------------------------- I have good news for you. The new director said that the rumors of IKCO and SAIPA being merged is false. He said that they would only corporate more with each other to be self-sufficient of foreign countries, but they will compete with each other on quality of their products and the service. He worked for IKCO for 20 years and switched to SAIPA because of he was chosen as the managing director of General Motors (of Iran) and now he is proud to "wear the IKCO's clothes" and to be the managing director. He wants to solve the problem of Peugeot 405 which has burned a few times in Iran - the problem is 90% solved. Here is the text in farsi (link: http://www.hamshahrionline.ir/News/?id=83700 ) : شایعه ادغام سایپا و ایران خودرو تکذیب شد صنعت و معدن- همشهري آنلاين: مدیر عامل شرکت ایران خودرو شایعه ادغام این شرکت با شركت خودروسازي سایپا را تکذیب کرد. به گزارش واحد مرکزی خبر، جواد نجم*الدین با بیان اینکه 20 سال کارمند ایران خودرو بوده است افزود: از سال 1381 براى توسعه شرکت مگا موتور از ایران خودرو به سایپا مامور به خدمت شدم و اکنون به خانه اول خود برگشته*ام. [مدير عامل ايران خودرو تغيير كرد] وى افزود: باید از امکانات دو شرکت به صورت بهینه و با بهره*ورى بالا استفاده کنیم که محتاج خارجی*ها نشویم و در کنار آن هم افزایى هم داشته باشیم اما مدیر عامل شرکت ایران خودرو با تاکید بر اینکه ایران خودرو و سایپا رقابت کاذب و خط کشى ندارند، گفت: تنها رقابت بین این دو شرکت رقابت در کیفیت محصولات و ارائه خدمات پس از فروش به مردم است. نجم*الدین خودرو آتش گرفتن برخى مدل*هاى خودروى این شرکت را بیشتر از یک ایراد دانست و با بیان اینکه بیش از 90 درصد این مشکل رفع شده است، قول داد: بلاى آتش*سوزى خودروها را که چهره ایران خودرو را مخدوش کرده است در آینده نه چندان دور ریشه کن شود. iman08 April 12th, 2009, 01:19 PM ^^and here is the text in english -but not exactly the same: Iran Khodro chief denies Saipa merger Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:36:35 GMT The new chief executive of Iran's largest automaker Iran Khodro Company (IKC) has denied reports of a possible merger with rival Saipa. "There are no plans for a merger between the two companies," said Javad Najmeddin. "We only plan to cooperate with each other to improve the quality of our products." Najmeddin's remarks came just a few days after he replaced Manouchehr Manteqi as IKC president. Manteqi, who headed the Middle East's largest automaker for more than seven years, was a staunch opponent of the merger with Saipa -- Iran's second-biggest automaker. Some media have reported that the appointment of Najmeddin, former managing director of Mega Motor Saipa, was aimed at speeding up the merger of the two companies. link: http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=91180§ionid=351020102 Shapoor April 12th, 2009, 08:39 PM Smart Control for Tehran Taxis - Tehran Municiplality (http://www.tehran.ir/Default.aspx?alias=www.tehran.ir/en) After installing Radio-Frequency Identification (RFID) equipment in 120 railroad taxis and GPS equipment on 30 ordinary taxis, smart control of Tehran taxis will be in force. SAMA quoted managing director of Tehran Taxi Organization as saying that software systems are part of tools used to control taxi fleet and will be used to control taxis by the organization. Hossein Teimuri Kermani noted that 21,000 ordinary taxis have been phased out in 8 years and shuttle as well as phone taxies will be positioned in 3,500 stations. Locations of 500 stations have been thus far determined. The official stated that new stickers will be put on taxis, adding, “Stickers will be delivered to taxis in a week and taxi drivers should take them from Tehran Taxi Organization.” :banana: Shapoor April 14th, 2009, 12:09 AM This is the closest thread I could find for bus and transport news so I'm posting the news here. Perhaps we should open a public transport thread if there's enough news? معاون بهره*برداري شركت واحد اتوبوسراني تهران در گفت*وگو با فارس: بليت*هاي الكترونيكي اتوبوس* از ماه آينده صادر مي*شود (http://www.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8801241277) خبرگزاري فارس: معاون بهره*برداري شركت واحد اتوبوسراني تهران از صدور بليت*هاي الكترونيكي اتوبوس*ها در ماه آينده خبر داد و گفت: با صدور بليت*هاي الكترونيكي بسياري از مشكلات بليت*هاي كاغذي از بين مي*رود. پيمان سنندجي در گفت*وگو با خبرنگار اجتماعي باشگاه خبري فارس «توانا» درباره افزايش نرخ بليت*هاي الكترونيكي اتوبوس اظهار داشت: نرخ بليت*هاي الكترونيكي براي هر سفر همان قيمت مصوب اتوبوسراني است و هيچ افزايش قيمتي در خصوص اين بليت*ها نخواهيم داشت. وي افزود: شهروندان مي*توانند هنگام استفاده از اتوبوس*هاي مختلف ريالي و بليتي از كارت بليت*هاي الكترونيك استفاده كنند. سنندجي همچنين در خصوص سيستم كارت*خوان*ها بيان داشت: سيستم كارت*خوان*ها به گونه*اي است كه در هر اتوبوس بر اساس نرخ كرايه مصوب از اعتبار بليت*هاي الكترونيكي كاسته مي*شود. وي گفت: در اتوبوس*هاي بليتي به يك ميزان و در اتوبوس*هاي ريالي بر اساس نرخ كرايه خطوط از اعتبار بليت*هاي الكترونيكي كم مي*شود. معاون بهره*برداري شركت واحد اتوبوسراني تهران گفت: در خطوط BRT سيستم كارت*خوان بليت*هاي الكترونيكي در ايستگاه*ها نصب خواهد شد اما در ساير خطوط اين سيستم در داخل اتوبوس و مقابل درهاي ورودي جلو و عقب نصب خواهد شد تا مسافران به محض ورود به اتوبوس، كارت بليت*هاي خود را بر روي كارت*خوان قرار داده و هزينه سفر از كارتشان كسر شود. وي همچنين خاطرنشان كرد: پنجشنبه اين هفته سياست*هاي كلي حمل و نقل در كل شهرداري ابلاغ مي*شود. Tehran is getting it's own Oyster card :banana: Shapoor April 15th, 2009, 11:57 AM US automakers want to cooperate with SAIPA - Press TV (http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=91439§ionid=351020102) Wed, 15 Apr 2009 03:20:05 GMT The managing director of Iranian carmaker SAIPA has said that 'big automakers' in the US have invited his company to participate in joint projects. Mehrdad Bazrpash also noted that the global economic downturn has prompted some of the European automakers to consider selling shares to SAIPA. He said that some of the European automakers that are now interested in cooperating with SAIPA did not show any such inclination in the past, ISNA reported. SAIPA, which was established in 1966, has implemented joint projects with Citroen and Renault of France, Nissan of Japan, and Kia Motors of South Korea. The US auto making sector has been badly hit by the global economic crisis. __ How can that happen with the current sanctions? Is he just talking ....? iman08 April 15th, 2009, 12:54 PM ^^I don't think that's true.. . They say some things ... There were also other news of iranian press where they reported false statements. However, I hope it is true. shugs April 16th, 2009, 06:42 PM Watch X12 Unveiling Ceremony Online 15 April 2009 - Time 2:50 PM http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/admin/Uploadimages/zm14dm3x52usolqq45noc055x12.jpg In a ceremony held on April 18, 2009, Iran Khodro Company will introduce IKCO’s second national brand. The new sedan will be presented to the audience gathered in Sapco, IKCO Supplying Parts Co. You can also watch the introduction of IKCO’s new CEO, Mohammad Javad Najmeddin followed by a valedictory ceremony of the ex-CEO Manouchehr Manteghi. It’s noteworthy that this program will be broadcasted by Iran Khodro’s website www.ikco.com in Arabic and English on Saturday, April 18, 2009 at 10 a.m. local time. http://news.ikco.com/en/webmodules/news/Newsview.aspx?newsseq=7652 shugs April 16th, 2009, 06:46 PM The text is about 10 new products IKCO wants to unveil in 1388 (March 2009 to March 2010) (but as you know not all of them are "new products" - for example they call a 405 which is automatic a new product... for everyone who can read farsi (link: http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/newsview.aspx?newsseq=7628 ) : a short list of the products: -Peugeot 308 -Peugeot 207 -a new model of Samand which codename is NX7 - it will be presented and sold in 3 variants which are: LX, ELX. EL (this is one of the bigger projects) - it is going to be unveiled in Bahman and mass produced in the first 3 months of 1389 -the second national car will be unveiled soon (it will be exported in Shahrivar and it has passed a lot of standards...) (this is one of the bigger projects) - Peugeot 405 and the simple Samand will be presented and sold in the automatic version -Suzuki Grand Vitara will be presented with a new engine (different size) -the Samand Sarir Saal will be presented - the Samand Sarir is a luxurious car which was presented a few years ago and now the are going to present another version of it (this one is more advanced) -a new van which is going to be "luxurious" :lol: will be presented from Iran Khodro Khorasan (this is one of the bigger projects) -the Peugeot Pars with the new iranian engine (is better than the french one now used in Pars) English article regarding the 207's release in Iran: Peugeot 207 to Hit Market in 14 Months 9 April 2009 Peugeot 207 jointly made by Iran Khodro Company and the French giant carmaker Peugeot will come on the market in 14 months, announced IKCO deputy for product and quality affairs. In his talks with the Iranian Students News Agency (ISNA), Majid Sheikhani added Peugeot 207 coded P3 is a joint venture between Iran Khodro and the French company as the two automakers make a joint investment in the project and closely cooperate to design the car. In comparison with Peugeot 206, said the official, Peugeot 207 is given a facelift including changes in the saloon, lights, and interior design and trim, continuing that the price of the car has yet to be fixed. Shifting to Peugeot 308, he explained that an agreement has been reached and the completely built-up (CBU) car will be imported at the first stage and it will be produced at home if it is economically justified. According to Sheikhani, the car will be shipped to Iran in mid-September 2009 and its price will revolve around 350 to 450 million rials (35,000 to 45,000 dollars). He said Peugeot 407 has been highly welcomed by people, adding, “We have imported about one thousand sets (of Peugeot 407), but we did not offer all. In the meantime, we do not have any plan on domestic production of the car.” http://news.ikco.com/en/webmodules/news/Newsview.aspx?newsseq=7663 Rahmani April 17th, 2009, 09:08 AM Great to see Iran upgrading and face-lifting its car industry. 10 years ago if you visited Iran the streets looked liked the 70s or 80s based on the cars ;) I wonder what the price of the 207 will be in Iran. In Europe the 206 was he huge success, mostly because it was affordable. The 207 was a failure in comparison, because it was 20%-30% more expensive, while other car manufactures where building cars with a lower price tag. iman08 April 18th, 2009, 01:22 PM The second national car is unveiled today :banana: and I didn't found any english news for it. I post the farsi news and a few pictures of the car. I will post the english news as soon as I found one. First the farsi news : خودرو رانا به بازار هاي داخلي و خارجي معرفي شد شركت ايران خودرو، در راستاي توسعه برندملي و پلتفرم خود ، با حضور وزير صنايع ومعادن ، نمايندگان مجلس شوراي اسلامي ،مديران صنعت و مديران گروه صنعتي ايران خودرو و خبرنگاران رسانه هاي داخلي و بين المللي، دومين خودرو با برند ملي ايران با نام رانا را به بازار ايران و جهان معرفي كرد. مهندس علير ضا محمدي مدير پروژه خودرو رانا درزمينه اهداف توليد محصول جديد ايران خودرو گفت : توليد محصولی جديد با ظاهر منحصر بفرد، قیمت پایین تر از خودروهای هم خانواده و برخوردار از آخرین استانداردهای روز براي ترويج و توسعه برند ايران خودرو، از جمله اهداف شركت ايران خودرو از عرضه اين محصول است. وي افزود : اين گروه صنعتي در اين حركت خود، تامین بازار خودروهایی در حاشیه قیمتی متوسط به پایین و توسعه پلتفرم مختص ایران خودرو در کنار توسعه محصول جدید را نيز در نظر داشته تا از اين راه، توسعه سهم صادرات و تضمین تداوم تولید در سایت های خارج از کشور در آینده را نيز محقق سازد. مشخصات فني محمدي درباره مشخصات دومين خودرو با برند ملي ايران خودرو خاطر نشان ساخت : از جنبه هاي گوناگون مانند در موتور، گلگیرها، چراغ ها، سپر ها و صندوق عقب، از طراحی کاملا جدیدي برخوردار است. وي تاكيد كرد : در اين خودرو ساير بخش ها از قبيل داشبورد، صندلی های جلو و عقب، رودری های جلو و عقب، قاب ستون ها و غربیلک فرمان نيز كاملا جديد و ابتكاري است. سیستم تعلیق عقب اين خودرو از نوع Twist Beam بوده و از كيسه هواي راتنده و سرنشین برخوردار است. مدير پروژه خودرو رانا تصريح كرد : در طراحي اين محصول، سيستم هاي تعلیق جلو، اگزوز، هیدرولیک فرمان و فریم صندلی ها با اعمال اصلاحات لازم و به منظور استفاده بهینه از سرمایه گذاری های موجود، از سبد محصولات ایران خودرو به كار گرفته شده است.از جمله اهداف مهمي كه ايران خودرو در طراحي و عرضه اين محصول دنبال كرده، مي توان به مصرف سوخت و آلایندگی، ایمنی، قیمت، عملکرد مناسب موتور و قوای محرکه، خدمات پس از فروش، فرمان پذيري و امکانات رفاهی، ارزاني تعميرات و نگهداري و دوام و کیفیت بالاي قطعات اشاره كرد. توسعه پلتفرم جدید با مالکیت ایران خودرو وي درزمينه توسعه پلتفرم خودرو رانا خاطر نشان ساخت : بخش عمده ای از زیر مجموعه های پلتفرم متعلق به ایران خودرو كه خودروی ”رانا“ برروی آن ارايه شده، موتور و گیربکس، سیستم تعلیق، کفی خودرو، صندلی ها، سیستم هاي خنک کاری، ترمز و الکتریکال و مجموعه اگزوز را در بر دارد. گزینه های قوای محرکه بعنوان یکی از اجزا اصلی پلتفرم محمدي با اشاره به اينكه در اين خودرو از قواي محركه متنوعي استفاده شده است خاطر نشان ساخت : موتور 1600 سي سي موجود براي بازار ایران و بازارهای صادراتي از جمله اين موارد است. اين موتور داراي 16 سوپاپ بوده و از 110 اسب توان در دور 5800 و گشتاور 142 نيوتن متر در دور 4000 برخوردار است. اين موتور بنزین سوز بوده اما قابلیت ارائه به صورت دوگانه سوز را نيز دارا است. اين موتور در سیکل ترکیبی 6/6 ليتر و در جاده 5.4 ليتر در هر صد كيلومتر سوخت مصرف مي كند. موتور ملی EF از ديگر گزينه هاي مورد نظر براي اين محصول است. اين موتور نيز داراي 16 سوپاپ و 125 اسب توان در دور 6000 در حالت بنزين و 103 اسب توان در دور 6000 در حالت گاز سوز است. گشتاور 160 نيوتن متر در دور 4500 در حالت بنزین و 135 نيوتن متر در دور 4500 در حالت گاز سوز از ديگر ويژگي هاي اين موتور به شمار مي رود. موتور اي اف پایه گازسوز است اما قابلیت ارايه به صورت بنزین سوز را نيز دارد. قابلیت نصب موتور دیزل نيز برروی این خودرو وجود دارد. مالکیت گیربکس مدير پروژه خودرو رانا تصريح كرد : ساخت کامل و مالكيت گيربكس توسط شرکت نیرو محرکه ایران خودرو را به عنوان گامی بلند در ایجاد پلتفرم فراهم و بهبود مستمر کیفیت گیربکس، با انجام پروژه های مهندسی را ميسر كرده است. طراحی اکسل و سیستم تعلیق وي تاكيد كرد : طراحی و ساخت کامل و مالکیت اکسل به عنوان یکی دیگراز اجزاي اصلی پلتفرم و مالكيت آن براي ايران خودرو، از ديگر نتايج طراحي و عرضه خودرو رانا است كه به منظور افزایش تیراژ و اقتصادی شدن تولید و با كسب اطمینان از عملکرد آن از راه محاسبات مهندسی و تست های جامع، به طور مشترک در ”رانا“ و ”سمند استفاده خواهد شد. گونه ها و تجهیزات بکار رفته اين مقام مسئول در زمينه مدل هاي مختلف خودرو رانا خاطر نشان ساخت : خودرو رانا در دو گونه اصلي ارايه مي شود. در گونه اول كه دو حالت شامل گیربکس دستی / بنزین سوز و گیربکس دستی / دو گانه سوز را در بر دارد، تجهیزاتي از قبيل ایربگ راننده، کولر، فرمان هیدرولیک و پخش MP3 با ورودی USB ديده شده است. گونه دوم اين محصول، گیربکس دستی / بنزین سوز، گیربکس اتوماتیک / بنزین سوز و گیربکس دستی /دو گانه سوز را در بر دارد و تجهیزات آن شامل ایربگ راننده و سرنشین، ترمزهای ضد قفلABS ، شیشه بالابرهای برقی، تنظیم برقی آینه ها، فرمان هیدرولیک، کولر و پخش CD/MP3 با ورودی USB است. ویژگی های برجسته خودروی رانا مهندس محمدي مهمترين ويژگيهاي خودرو رانا را معرفی خودرويي تحت برند ایران خودرو با ظاهر جذاب تر ار خودروهای هم رده و بهره گیری از سرمایه گذاری های انجام شده در زمینه تولید و ساخت داخل قطعات و مجموعه ها، از جمله تجربه هاي مهم طراحي و عرضه اين محصول به شمار مي رود.عنوان كرد و اظهارداشت : گروه صنعتي ايران خودرو در اين راستا، سطح ایمنی خودرو در تصادف و به ويژه در برخورد با عابر پیاده را نيز ارتقا داده و X12 تنها خودروی تولید داخل است که با آخرین استانداردهای اروپایی مربوط به عابر پياده موسوم به Pedestrian Impact تطابق دارد. دراين محصول، استاندارد کنترل آلایندگی بر بالاترین استاندارد اروپایی (EU V) منطبق است. سطح تجهيزات وي درزيمنه تجهزات خودرو رانا تصريح كرد : خودروي جديد ايران خودرو به فرمان هيدروليك، كولر، ترمز *ABS ، شیشه بالابر جلو و عقب برقی، آینه های برقی، قفل مرکزی، ریموت و ايربگ راننده و سرنشين مجهز است و با توجه به عرضه آن در انتهاي سال 1388 و هدف گذاري ايران خودرو، این محصول در سطوح استاندارد آلایندگی Euro 3 ، Euro 4 و Euro 5 قابل عرضه است. نخستين خودروي ايراني با استاندارد ايمني عابر پياده محمدي در مورد استاندارد هاي روزاروپايي اين خودرو خاطر نشان ساخت : علاوه بر تامين الزامات استانداردهای 55 گانه بازار ایران و استانداردهاي روز اروپا ، شاخص هاي ايمني براي راننده و سرنشين بزرگ سال و كودكان و برخورد با عابر پياده بر اساس معیار EuroNCAP نيز در این محصول هدف گذاری شده و به تمامي سيستم هاي ايمني براي برخورد با عابر پياده موسوم به استاندارد Pedestrian Impact مجهز است. خودرو رانا اولین خودروی ایرانی است كه در طراحي آن دستیابی به ملزومات استانداردهای Euro IV و Euro V ، تطابق با كليه ملزومات استانداردهاي اتحاديه اروپا ( EEC/ECE) و تمامي استانداردهاي جاري در ايران و ساير مناطق صادراتي گنجانده شده است. 150 هزار دستگاه پيش بيني توليد محمدي در درزمينه تيراژ توليد و بازار هاي صادراتي خودرو رانا گفت : با توجه به پتاسيل بازار در بخش های SM2 و SM3، حداقل تيراژ سالانه براي اين خودرو 150 هزار دستگاه پيش بينی شده است و اين خودرو به بيش از 30 كشور جهان صادر خواهد شد . وي مهمترين بازار هاي صادراتي اين خودرو را كشورهاي مختلف در آسياي ميانه، اروپا، افريقا، امريكاي لاتين و خاورميانه از جمله بازارهاي مهم براي اين محصول خواهند بود. دراين ميان مي توان كشورهاي قزاقستان، تركمنستان، تركيه، اكراين، بلاروس، سوريه، لبنان، اردن، تونس، مراكش، سنگال، ونزويلا، ليبي، الجزاير، مصر، سودان، عربستان، كويت ، عراق ، امارات، آذربايجان، چين و روسيه را نام برد. link: http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/newsview.aspx?newsseq=7693 it seems it is a very good car with it's price. :banana: iman08 April 18th, 2009, 01:27 PM http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/Admin/Galleries/415_2.jpg http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/Admin/Galleries/415_000.jpg http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/Admin/Galleries/415_1.jpg http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/Admin/Galleries/415_3.jpg http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/Admin/Galleries/415_5.jpg http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/Admin/Galleries/415_6.jpg http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/Admin/Galleries/415_7.jpg http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/Admin/Galleries/415_8.jpg http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/Admin/Galleries/415_10.jpg http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/Admin/Galleries/415_11.jpg http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/Admin/Galleries/415_18.jpg iman08 April 18th, 2009, 01:46 PM and here are some pictures of the unveiling celebration: http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/Admin/Galleries/416_DSC_7934.jpg http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/Admin/Galleries/416_DSC_7937.jpg http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/Admin/Galleries/416_DSC_8170.jpg here is from left: minister of this branch... , Mantequi (the ex-managing director of IKCO who started and ended the X12 project - Runna and Mr. Najmo-aledin - the new appointed managing director of IKCO http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/Admin/Galleries/416_DSC_8210.jpg http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/Admin/Galleries/416_DSC_8506.jpg http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/Admin/Galleries/416_DSC_8558.jpg http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/Admin/Galleries/416_DSC_8756.jpg http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/Admin/Galleries/416_DSC_8851.jpg http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/Admin/Galleries/416_DSC_8886.jpg iman08 April 18th, 2009, 01:56 PM and here are two other important news of the car and the whole IKCO in farsi xD : رانا باعث جهشي خوبي در صادرات ايران خودرو خواهد شد خودرو رانا دومين خودرو با برند ملي به روزدي وارد بازارهاي داخل و خارج كشور خواهد شد. مهندس علي اكبر محرابيان وزير صنايع ومعادن در مراسم رونمايي دومين خودرو با برند ملي ضمن بيان مطلب فوق اظهار داشت: خودرو رانا علاوه بر مشخصات فني فوق العاده اي كه دارد خودرويي بسيار زيبا و چشم نواز است كه به محض قرار گرفتن در سبد كالاي صادراتي، به همراه دو برند ملي ديگر، جهش بسيار خوبي را در بخش صادرات خودرو و ايران خودرو به وجود خواهد آورد. وي افزود:يكي از افتخارات صنعت خودرو ايران اين بود كه عليرغم ركود بازارهاي جهاني و رقابت غير اخلاقي در بخش واردات، ميزان صادرات تقريبا برابر ميزان واردات خودرو به كشور بوده است. محرابيان ادامه داد: بازار ايران با حجم وسيع مصرف كننده و تنوع ذائقه بهترين بازار براي اهداف صادارتي است ولي ميزان صادرات خودرو تقريبا برابر با ميزان واردات است كه اين يك افتخار بزرگ محسوب مي شود. وزير صنايع ومعادن به تجاري سازي خودرو رانا اشاره كردو گفت: با تجاري سازي اين خودرو كه از نظرتكنولوژي و زيبايي در رديف خودروهاي مدرن و پيشرفته جهان است در آينده نزديك درعرصه صادرات جهش معنا داري خواهيم داشت. استفاده از تجربه و دانش دكتر منطقي وي درخصوص تغيير مديرعامل ايران خودرو گفت: صنعت خودرو از انديشه وتوان دكتر منطقي به نحو شايسته استفاده خواهد كرد . وي تاكيد كرد: همچنان رييس هيات مديره ايران خودرو باقي خواهد ماند و در شوراي سياست گذاري خودرو نيز فعاليت خود را ادامه خواهد داد. محرابيان خاطر نشان كرد: 15 سال بيش تصور اينكه بتوانيم يك خودرو را طراحي و تجاري سازي كنيم بسيار سخت بود ولي امروز مي توانيم خودرويي با پلتفرم ملي را طراحي و به بازار عرضه كنيم. وي تلاش مديران، مهندسان و كارگران ايران خودرو براي طراحي و توليد خودروي ملي ستودني دانست و افزود: امروز جمهوري اسلامي ايران تصميم جدي گرفته كه با استفاده از تجربه صنعتي، صنعت هوايي را بومي سازي كند. وزير صنايع و معادن ادامه داد: وزارت صنايع به طور جدي و با برنامه حساب شده، جلسات متعددي براي واگذاري اين مسئوليت به دست مديري توانمند و باتجربه در صنعت هوايي برگزار كرد. محرابيان دكتر منطقي را فردي مناسب براي پروژه هاي صنعت هوايي و بومي سازي طراحي و توليد هواپيما در كشور عنوان كرد. حمايت قاطع از مهندس نجم الدين وزير صنايع و معادن همچنين در خصوص انتخاب مهندس نجم الدين به مديرعاملي گروه صنعتي ايران خودرو گفت: در طول مدت انتصاب مهندس نجم الدين كوچكترين انتقاد و اعتراضي به اين انتخاب نشده است و حتي افراد معترض به جابجايي دكتر منطقي عنوان كردند كه مهندس نجم الدين بهترين گزينه بود. وزير صنايع و معادن ضمن اعلام حمايت قاطع از مديريت مهندس نجم الدين و تك تك اعضاي هيات مديره و مديران ايران خودرو اظهار اميدواري كرد كه در سال 88 ميزان رشد و پيشرفت در اين گروه صنعتي چندين برابر شود. وي ادامه داد: در سال 1387 غول هاي بزرگ خودرو ساز جهاني يكي پس از ديگري زمين خوردند و ميزان توليد آنها كاهش چشمگيري داشت ولي خودروسازان كشور از اين فرصت استفاده كردند و رشد بي سابقه اي در زمينه توليد تجربه كردند. وي در خصوص توجه به امر خدمات پس از فروش گفت: بايد در بخش خدمات پس از فروش جهش و رشد بي نظيري در سال جاري داشته باشيم. link: http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/newsview.aspx?newsseq=7694 ------------------- مهندس نجم الدين اولويت هاي كاري ايران خودرو را اعلام كرد اصلاح ساختار مالي و تامين نقدينگي لازم براي توليد، نخستين اولويت كاري گروه صنعتي ايران خورو است. مهندس جواد نجم الدين مدير عامل گروه صنعتي ايران خودرو در مراسم رونمايي رانا – دومين خودروي ايران خودرو با برند ملي، و در جريان مراسم توديع دكتر منطقي مدير عامل سابق ايران خودرو ، ضمن بيان مطلب فوق، فروش و خدمات پس از فروش، ارتقاي بازدهي سرمايه گذاري ها، توسعه محصولات، كاهش مصرف سوخت و كوچك سازي بخش ستادي را از ديگر اولويت هاي راهبردي ايران خودرو عنوان كرد. وي اظهار داشت: اصلاح ساختار مالي، كه بيشترين منافع را براي ذي نفعان در بر دارد، با هدف تامين نقدينگي، مديريت بر منابع مالي موجود و هدايت آن به سمت توليد و افزايش بهره وري از ظرفيت هاي توليدي صورت مي گيرد. نجم الدين، فروش و خدمات پس از فروش را دومين اولويت كاري ايران خودرو اعلام كرد و گفت: براي ارتقاي اين بخش، از فناوري هاي نوين فروش و خدمات پس از فروش بيشترين بهره گيري به عمل خواهد آمد. مدير عامل ايران خودرو خاطر نشان ساخت، كيفيت خدمات پس از فروش از چنان اهميتي برخوردار است كه بدون آن فروش دچار مشكل مي شود، لذا ايران خودرو برنامه جامعي را در جهت كنترل و نظارت مداوم شبكه خدمات پس از فروش در دست دارد. نجم الدين افزايش بازدهي سرمايه گذاري هاي انجام شده در داخل و خارج از كشور را سومين اولويت ايران خودرو اعلام كرد كه از راه سرعت بخشيدن به طرح ها به منظور بازگشت سرمايه گذاري ها در زمان مناسب به دست مي آيد. وي ضمن تاكيد بر توسعه محصولات و عرضه محصولات متنوع به بازار، سوخت و انرژي را كه مورد تاكيد نظام هم هست، به عنوان ديگر اولويت ايران خودرو برشمرد و گفت: دراين زمينه برنامه جامع تهيه خواهد شد كه به وسيله آن، ضمن كاهش مصرف سوخت، سرمايه گذاري در موتورسازي، در جهت ايجاد بيشترين تنوع در سبد سوخت و بالاترين صرفه جويي انجام خواهد شد. مدير عامل ايران خودرو در ادامه سخنان خود در مراسم رونمايي از دومين خودروي ملي ايران خودرو – رانا – ارتقاي زنجيره تامين قطعات را اولويت ديگر ايران خودرو اعلام كرد و اظهار داشت: ايران خودرو با هزار قطعه ساز و مجموعه ساز، بزرگ ترين شبكه تامين را در اختيار دارد و 70 درصد قطعات و مجموعه هاي مورد نياز از اين شبكه تامين مي شود؛ لذا ارتقاي اين شبكه از اهميت ويژه برخوردار است. وي تصريح كرد: دراين راستا به غير از سازندگان قطعات استراتژيك و داراي فناوري بالا، ساير بخش هاي زنجيره تامين به بخش خصوصي واگذار خواهد شد. نجم الدين كوچك كردن بخش هاي ستادي و ايجاد تعادل بين ستاد و صف را به منظور ارتقاي چابكي سيستم، از ديگر اولويت هاي مهم براي ايران خودرو عنوان كرد. مدير عامل ايران خودرو در ادامه يك بار ديگر موضوع ادغام خودروسازان را تكذيب كرد و بر همكاري صميمانه با ساير خودروسازان براي استفاده از تمامي مراكز تخصصي با هدف عدم نياز به شركت هاي بيگانه، تاكيد كرد و گفت: تنها در كيفيت و خدمات پس از فروش رقابت تنگاتنگ با ساير خودروسازان خواهيم داشت. وي نيروي انساني را دارايي ارزشمند ايران خودرو عنوان كرد و با اشاره به اين كه خود وي كار در ايران خودرو را از پايين ترين رده آغاز كرده و با سختي كار در تمامي رده ها آشناست، كار و انضباط و عدالت محوري را مهم ترين اولويت در خصوص نيروي كار به شمار آورد و بر افزايش رفاه تمامي كاركنان تا پايين ترين رده سازماني، بر اساس عدالت محوري تاكيد كرد. تهديدها و فرصت هاي پيش رو مدير عامل گروه صنعتي ايران خودرو در بخش ديگري از سخنان خود در مورد فرصت ها و تهديدهاي پيش روي ايران خودرو گفت: ايران خودرو در تمامي مراحل با تهديدها و فرصت هايي رو به رو بوده، اما امروزه ركود اقتصاد جهاني، سياست هاي انقباضي بانك ها، اشباع بازار داخل، توقع به جاي مشتريان، مشكلات تامين نقدينگي، قيمت، سوخت و استانداردهاي سخت گيرانه زيست محيطي، نشان مي دهد كه حجم تهديدها در داخل و خارج افزايش يافته است. وي كاهش قيمت مواد اوليه و برخورداري از منابع عظيم انساني ، مديران كارآمد و آبديده با توان بهره برداري از ظرفيت هاي توليد را فرصت هايي دانست كه مي تواند ايران خودرو را در رويارويي با تهديدها كمك كند. نجم الدين سخن مقام معظم رهبري در شروع سال جديد مبني بر اصلاح الگوي مصرف را فرصتي گران قدر براي ايران خودرو دانست تا در جهت صرفه جويي در هزينه ها و كسب بالاترين سطح بهره وري حركت كند. مدير عامل ايران خودرو هماوردي هاي اين گروه صنعتي را سخت و بيشمار دانست و اظهار اميدواري كرد با توكل به خداوند و مهم ترين دارايي ايران خودرو كه همانا سرمايه انساني است، موانع پيش رو را از ميان بردارد و اهداف بزرگ ايران خودرو را محقق سازد. وي راه ايران خودرو را سخت ودشوار توصيف كرد وگفت: دراين راه دست كساني را كه در پي ارزش آفريني هستند و با كار و تلاش موثر ما را ياري داده و به هدف هايمان مي رسانند، با گرمي مي فشاريم. link: http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/newsview.aspx?newsseq=7692 Persiancat April 18th, 2009, 10:42 PM Very nice name they've chosen for the car:) Runna; i like it. I really wanna know what it means. Daryae_Abi April 19th, 2009, 01:47 AM http://www.farsnews.com/plarg.php?nn=M520765.jpg it looks like proton gen2... santa_cruz April 19th, 2009, 06:01 AM Woww I lov' it Go IRAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer: You honor all muslim countries Greating from Algeria:) Persiancat April 19th, 2009, 07:14 AM ^^Thanks for the nice comment:) iman08 April 19th, 2009, 01:31 PM and here is the news in english ( a bit shorter and less information) : Runna to Enter Domestic and Foreign Markets IKCO second national brand, Runna (X12 project) unveiled on Saturday, April 18, 2009 In the unveiling ceremony, simultaneously held with the valediction and introduction of IKCO ex and new CEOs; Mehrabian Iranian Minister of Industries and Mines, state high ranking officials and auto industry top managers as well as Iranian and foreign reporters were participating. Runna designed on a platform, the intellectual property of which belongs to IKCO is going to be presented in domestic market and in four continents of the world. It is noteworthy that Runna is the first Iranian car that meets the pedestrian impact standards based on European directive 2003/102/EC and it will be able to acquire Euro IV and V pollution standards. IKCO second national brand will be offered with a vast variety in engine types (1.6 liter gas and 1.7 liter CNG-base engines) and accessories, giving customers way to pick up what they most desire. The new car can be also equipped with diesel engines and IKCO is planning to prepare the diesel one for global markets with demand for such cars. The product will hit domestic and global markets by March 2010. Runna production volume will be 150000 units per annum, 25 percent of which will be dispatched abroad. link: http://news.ikco.com/en/webmodules/news/Newsview.aspx?newsseq=7700 sarbaze tabarestan April 19th, 2009, 01:43 PM mashallah iran!zendebad daneshmandaye irani ke dar sakhtarin moghyat daran ruz be ruz pishraft mikonan! dameshun garm! Herbicide April 19th, 2009, 04:01 PM Why does it take so long to start production!? And it takes ages to take the old cars out of production! humodoide April 19th, 2009, 04:11 PM I don't want to be a scum, but where is the honor to take a old Peugeot Sedan-206 body (that IKCo get the license to produce) and declare it's a new car just by replacing the bumpers and the lights. shugs April 19th, 2009, 06:08 PM I don't want to be a scum, but where is the honor to take a old Peugeot Sedan-206 body (that IKCo get the license to produce) and declare it's a new car just by replacing the bumpers and the lights. ^Well you are not wrong, I said something similar a couple of pages back. My opinion on this is that the 206 SD had very small sales figures to what was expected when Peugeot gave IKCO the go ahead to manufacture it. Bare in mind the 206 SD design i.e. the original 206 modified into a Sedan was designed by IKCO. The small sales figures must have justified the redesign, re-badge, new Iranian made/designed engine, and the hype surrounding a new 'national car' to make some sales. As for replacing bumpers and lights to make a 'new car'... Rover did it for over 15 years, look at where they ended up :shifty:... The lights and overall design does look like it is imitating the Volvo C30. Daryae_Abi April 19th, 2009, 10:22 PM I don't want to be a scum, but where is the honor to take a old Peugeot Sedan-206 body (that IKCo get the license to produce) and declare it's a new car just by replacing the bumpers and the lights. Not exactly true brother because it uses the national motor and not a peugeot motor Samand use to use the Peugeot 405 motor but they switched to the national motor humodoide April 20th, 2009, 04:53 AM Today the only available engine is the Peugeot TU5 engine (1.6 cc) that is used in 206. The national engine (EF7 - 1.7 cc) seems too big, and IKCo has some difficulties to put it in (reliable source from IKCo itself). The second national engine (EF4 - 1.4 cc) is in progress, but it's going to be ready in 2 or 3 years. So only the TU5 engine is going to be available when IKCo is going to launch the car on march 2010. iman08 April 20th, 2009, 06:18 PM ^^in 2008 they said EF4 will be unveiled in 2008, so in 2010 it could be that they sell it with the national EF4 engine or they sell it in 2011 with the national engine. I think we should wait until 2010... . I don't understand why it takes so long to be mass produced?? - until then the car is old... . humodoide April 20th, 2009, 07:08 PM Yes. Wait and see. Anyway, it's not the first time IKCo or Saipa unveiled something they are not ready to produced. They did a lot of advertisements about EF7 engine 2 years ago, but they produced less of 1 500 cars (out of 600 000 produced by IKco) with this engine in last year. Gag Halfrunt April 20th, 2009, 11:57 PM I wonder what the price of the 207 will be in Iran. In Europe the 206 was he huge success, mostly because it was affordable. The 207 was a failure in comparison, because it was 20%-30% more expensive, while other car manufactures where building cars with a lower price tag. The Iran Khodro news release says "In comparison with Peugeot 206...Peugeot 207 is given a facelift including changes in the saloon, lights, and interior design and trim..." so I suspect that they will be making the Brazilian 207 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peugeot_207#Mercosur_version), which is just a restyled 206. iman08 April 21st, 2009, 12:29 AM Yes. Wait and see. Anyway, it's not the first time IKCo or Saipa unveiled something they are not ready to produced. They did a lot of advertisements about EF7 engine 2 years ago, but they produced less of 1 500 cars (out of 600 000 produced by IKco) with this engine in last year. Yes, but IKCO is much better than SAIPA. I hate SAIPA, because it "just" produces the Kia Pride which is one of the unsafest and worst cars worldwide! Now it has unveiled the "second national car", which I think is almost like the Kia Pride.... . However I hope the produce good "national" cars in the future while I think that IKCO is much closer to my optimum than SAIPA. Rahmani April 21st, 2009, 06:32 PM The Iran Khodro news release says "In comparison with Peugeot 206...Peugeot 207 is given a facelift including changes in the saloon, lights, and interior design and trim..." so I suspect that they will be making the Brazilian 207 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peugeot_207#Mercosur_version), which is just a restyled 206. So its not going to be the 207, but the 206+. Which would explain why the price would not go up. It is just a facelift. iman08 April 22nd, 2009, 11:30 PM here is the official website of the national car: Runna (X12-Project) website-link: www.runna.ir humodoide April 23rd, 2009, 06:30 AM So, according to the website, only the Peugeot TU5 engine is going to be available for its launch. I believed the EF7 is 150 hp (according previous IKCo announcement) !? And now it seems less powerful than a TU5 (max torque and speed) ?? Ahhhgh "Propaganda" !!!!!! They shouldn't do that, they lose their credibility iman08 April 23rd, 2009, 01:47 PM ^^yes, I thought EF7 would be better than TU5, but now I know that it is worse than TU5. What was the name of the national engine which has the highest power of gas Engines worldwide? However this engine would be good and the EF7 and EF4 aren't so different than the TU5. But fortunately they are going to build more powerful engines in the (near) future. The EF4 and EF7 are very good steps for IKCO to produce very powerful engines. But I have heard that the EF4 and EF7 exhaust very less - and that is very good especially for the pollution in Iran (mostly in the big cities). Herbicide April 23rd, 2009, 11:43 PM This car would be soo ideal for the Turkish market! Read today on PressTV that they want to release it sooner there:The Iran Khodro Company will begin exporting its newly introduced car, Runna, to Turkey by July, IKCO's Turkish distributor says. The third all-Iranian car Runna was introduced by the Middle East's largest automaker last week. The Anatolia news agency quoted MYS Otomotiv manager Yigit Seskir as saying that the new Iranian car would be offered with different options and engines in Turkey. IKCO says the compact car meets Euro IV and V standards which deal with air pollution and the pedestrian impact safety requirements. Runna comes with an efficient 1.6-liter fuel-injected engine, SRS airbags, anti-lock brakes with EBA & EBD, power steering, and power windows and side-view mirrors. Iran Khodro already exports the country's first national vehicle, Samand, to countries such as Turkey, Belarus, Russia, Syria, Tajikistan and Venezuela. http://www.presstv.ir/new/detail.aspx?id=92359§ionid=351020102 Im thinking inparticular that it would be an ideal fit to compete with the Fiat Palio, Hyundai Accent and Renault Logan for taxis in Turkey. Shapoor April 25th, 2009, 04:07 PM Great news guys, SAIPA and PARS KHODRO have revealed 4 new cars http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8802/ImageReports/8802051105/3_8802051105_L600.jpg Nissan Teana http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8802/ImageReports/8802051105/6_8802051105_L600.jpg Nissan Qashqai http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8802/ImageReports/8802051105/5_8802051105_L600.jpg Renault Megan http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8802/ImageReports/8802051105/4_8802051105_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8802/ImageReports/8802051105/8_8802051105_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8802/ImageReports/8802051105/7_8802051105_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8802/ImageReports/8802051105/12_8802051105_L600.jpg Well, not the best, but still better than nothing http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8802/ImageReports/8802051105/15_8802051105_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8802/ImageReports/8802051105/14_8802051105_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8802/ImageReports/8802051105/13_8802051105_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8802/ImageReports/8802051105/18_8802051105_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8802/ImageReports/8802051105/17_8802051105_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8802/ImageReports/8802051105/16_8802051105_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8802/ImageReports/8802051105/21_8802051105_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8802/ImageReports/8802051105/20_8802051105_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8802/ImageReports/8802051105/19_8802051105_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8802/ImageReports/8802051105/22_8802051105_L600.jpg http://64.130.220.65/Multimedia/pics/1388/2/photo/684.jpg http://64.130.220.65/Multimedia/pics/1388/2/photo/688.jpg http://64.130.220.65/Multimedia/pics/1388/2/photo/691.jpg :banana: Rahmani April 25th, 2009, 11:34 PM http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8802/ImageReports/8802051105/14_8802051105_L600.jpg This thing is going to sell well in Iran. ---- Iran needs more modern, but affordible cars, and none of the 4 are really that. They should also start selling the Toyota Aygo, Peugeot 107, Hyundai i10, Daihatsu Sirion2, Dacia Sandero and KIA cee'd. Or rebranded version of them for the Iranian market. Shapoor April 26th, 2009, 12:03 AM http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8802/ImageReports/8802051105/14_8802051105_L600.jpg This thing is going to sell well in Iran. ---- Iran needs more modern, but affordible cars, and none of the 4 are really that. They should also start selling the Toyota Aygo, Peugeot 107, Hyundai i10, Daihatsu Sirion2, Dacia Sandero and KIA cee'd. Or rebranded version of them for the Iranian market. I agree. But you see, Iranians are not big fans of small hatchback cars, they're a bit *American*. They only drive a small car if there's nothing else available. iman08 April 26th, 2009, 12:49 AM The SAIPA 111 is somehow ugly... . The other cars are pretty good, but they are foreign cars... . The cars which SAIPA produces itself aren't really good cars. I prefer Iran Khodro, because it produces better cars -especially the national cars. SAIPA produces the Kia Pride and now changes the outlook of the car a bit and present it as SAIPA 111. SAIPA 141, Miniator (which is a bit more changed..) etc. . They should build a good car themselves which is not exactly like the Kia Pride. When the Runna comes to market with the price they said, then nobody buys the Pride, because the price would be the same, but the quality and everything else from the Runna would be better. shugs April 26th, 2009, 02:22 PM I agree. But you see, Iranians are not big fans of small hatchback cars, they're a bit *American*. They only drive a small car if there's nothing else available. You really think so? I always considered hatchbacks European small run-arounds... while American cars are big sedans and 4x4, the popularity of hatchbacks in the US has been brought about by recent high fuel prices and concern for the environment. Shapoor April 26th, 2009, 02:34 PM You really think so? I always considered hatchbacks European small run-arounds... while American cars are big sedans and 4x4, the popularity of hatchbacks in the US has been brought about by recent high fuel prices and concern for the environment. If you look at any street in Tehran you'll see that the 206 is one of the only popular hatchbacks currently produced, people prefer sedans more imo shugs April 26th, 2009, 03:58 PM ohhh you mean that Iranians are American in their taste for big cars... sorry misunderstood lol :) Persan May 1st, 2009, 09:09 AM Iran, Daewoo strike bus deal FORBES (http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2009/04/30/ap6363179.html) | April 30, 2009 South Korean bus manufacturer Daewoo Bus Corp. and an Iranian company have teamed up to build buses in Iran, the official Iranian news agency and a Daewoo Bus official said Thursday. The agreement comes as U.S. lawmakers weigh even deeper economic sanctions on Iran in a bid to pressure the country to halt uranium enrichment and abandon its controversial nuclear program. Saeed Khademi, the director of Iranian automaker Ardebil Sabalan Khodrow-Maywan, said Wednesday the two firms would build a $30 million factory by next March in Ardebil, about 370 miles (600 kilometers) northwest of the capital, Tehran. The plant, which is slated to be completed by March 2010, would have a production capacity of 2,000 buses per year and would produce some 800 city and intercity buses in the 18 months after its inauguration, Iran's official news agency IRNA quoted Khademi as saying Thursday. Based on the agreement, the engines and gearboxes would be manufactured in South Korea. But production would increasingly shift to Iran, where about 60 percent of the parts would be made, IRNA said. J.G. Yang, a Daewoo Bus official in charge of the firm's Middle East exports, said the company plans initially to supply completed buses built in South Korea but will later send components that will be assembled into complete buses in Iran. The venture comes as U.S. lawmakers are looking at stiffening existing sanctions on Iran to pressure the country to halt uranium enrichment, which can produce fuel for a nuclear reactor or fissile material for a bomb. The U.S. suspects Iran is using its nuclear program as a covert way to develop weapons - a claim denied by Tehran. The proposal before U.S. lawmakers would penalize foreign oil firms and shippers that do business with Iran. However, past sanctions have failed to change Iran's behavior, and the hard-line government has been reaching out to international companies with promises of lucrative oil contracts and other business deals. Iran shrugged off the U.S. move as "psychological warfare." "Americans know better than anyone that sanctions have no impact on Iran," state television quoted Seifollah Jashnsaz, head of state-owned National Iranian Oil Company, as saying Thursday. Although the second largest oil producer among OPEC countries, Iran still has to import oil to meet domestic needs because it lacks enough refining capacity. Yang said he saw no problem for Daewoo Bus in doing business in Iran since most of the components for the buses are supplied by South Korean companies. He said more than 100 Daewoo buses were assembled in Iran under a previous agreement with a company there. Daewoo Bus has 10 factories in South Korea, China, Taiwan, Costa Rica, Kazakhstan, Vietnam and Pakistan, Yang said. Some are operated independently by Daewoo and others with joint venture partners. The company was once part of the Daewoo Group conglomerate, which collapsed under massive debt following the 1997-98 Asian financial crisis Iran annually needs some 4,000 buses for its domestic transportation. Since the 1970s, Iran has been producing a number of different buses, such as German Mercedes and Mann as well as Swedish Scania and Volvo that it has exported throughout the Middle East. Herbicide May 1st, 2009, 08:57 PM Daewoo buses: City http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2d/CapitalBus_708FM.jpg/800px-CapitalBus_708FM.jpg Intercity: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8d/Daewoo-BX212-Sugizaki-Kanko.JPG/800px-Daewoo-BX212-Sugizaki-Kanko.JPG http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/Daewoo_BH117K_320KK_Front.jpg/800px-Daewoo_BH117K_320KK_Front.jpg These would be great! Shapoor May 1st, 2009, 09:36 PM ^^ looks alright, it'll be suitable for -1 million cities iman08 May 2nd, 2009, 05:09 PM This text is a comparison between the 2 new unveiled cars of SAIPA (2nd national car - Miniator) and Iran Khodro (3rd national car (after Samand) - Runna): رقابت دو خودروساز در بازار10ميليوني حمل و نقل- امين آزاد*: به فاصله چند* ماه پس از آنكه نخستين خود*روي ملي سايپا با نام مينياتور رونمايي شد*، د*ومين خود*روي ملي ايران خود*رو نيز با نام رانا متولد* شد* 2 خود*رويي كه پس از سمند*، پسوند* ملي د*ارند*؛ خود*روهايي كه هر*د*و با كمك مشاوران خارجي از ايتاليا، آلمان و انگليس گرفته تا كره و چين طراحي و ساخته شد*ه*اند*. گرچه هر*د*و خود*رو روي پلت فورم خود*رو*هاي قبلي ايران*خود*رو و سايپا يعني پژو 206 و پرايد* و ريو طراحي شد*ه و قيمتي نزد*يك به هم د*ارند*، اما اينكه كد*ام خود*رو د*ر رقابت براي تصاحب بازار مصرف د*اخلي برند*ه خواهد* شد*، موضوعي است كه نيازمند* گذشت بيشتر زمان و بررسي مشخصات فني اين خود*روهاست. از نيمه د*وم سال 88 2خود*روي مينياتور و رانا*(X12)، توسط سايپا و ايران*خود*رو ارائه خواهد* شد*. رانا همان خود*رويي است كه ابتد*ا قرار بود* نام پيكان جد*يد* * بر آن نهاد*ه شود* اما با برخي فشارها ابتد*ا اسم نوند* و پس از آن رانا را به*خود* گرفت. هر*د*وخود*رو با قيمت پايه حد*ود* 10 ميليون تومان د*ر يك كلاس قرار د*ارند*، اما به راستي كد*ام يك مي*توانند* د*ل خريد*اران ايراني را به د*ست آورند*. جالب آنكه اين خود*روها علاوه بر رقابت د*ر بازار طي سال، رقابت د*ر كلام را نيز طي اين چند* ماه آغاز كرد*ه و مد*يران هر كد*ام از اين 2شركت، خود*روي خود* را ملي*تر و د*اخلي*تر مي*د*انند*. اين د*ر حالي است كه هر*د*و خود*رو از كمك مشاوران خارجي بي*نصيب نبود*ه و د*ر آنها از قطعات خود*روهاي د*يگر استفاد*ه شد*ه است.مينياتور بيشتر بر پايه ريو و پرايد* و رانا بر پايه پژو 206 و كمي هم پژو 405 و سمند* است. د*ر طراحي موتور هر*د*و خود*رو از كمك مركز تحقيقات موتور آلمان FEV استفاد*ه شد*ه و د*ر طراحي بد*نه نيز طراحان انگليسي و ايتاليايي د*ر هر*د*و خود*رو مشاوره* د*اد*ه*اند*. هزينه طراحي و ساخت هر*د*و خود*رو نيز نزد*يك به هم و د*ر حد*ود* 120 ميليون د*لار است. به گفته مجيد* شيخاني، قائم مقام ايران خود*رو قيمت تمام شد*ه رانا 5/8 ميليون تومان است و بايد* 100 هزار د*ستگاه از آن توليد* شود* تا هزينه طراحي آن بازگرد*د*. طراحي طراحي رانا ساد*ه بود*ه و ايران*خود*رو تا حد*ود*ي سعي كرد*ه سنت سورن را د*ر اين خود*رو د*نبال كند*. قسمت جلوي خود*رو شباهت زياد*ي به مد*ل*هاي آئود*ي د*ارد* كه گويي با طرح*هاي پژو تركيب شد*ه است البته برخي نيز مي*گويند* جلوي اين خود*رو بي*شباهت به فيات پاليو نيست چرا كه مشاوران ايتاليايي اين خود*رو را طراحي كرد*ه*اند*. از سوي د*يگر د*ر طراحي بد*نه رانا خطوط بد*نه پژو 206 كاملا مشهود* است به*گونه*اي كه اگر 2 د*ست را د*ر عكس اين خود*رو روي صند*وق عقب و د*اشبورد* بگذاريد* كاملا پژو 206 را خواهيد* د*يد*. پس به*نظر مي*رسد* شركت ايران خود*رو با كمك مشاوران ايتاليايي تنها جلو و عقب خود*رو را د*ر بخش بد*نه د*وباره طراحي كرد*ه است اما مينياتور طراحي تا حد*ود* زياد*ي عجيب د*ر بين خود*روهاي ايراني د*ارد* كه برخي مانند* علي رضا محمد* زاد*ه، كارشناس طراحي به*عنوان جشنواره خطوط از آن ياد* كرد*ه و معتقد* است كه سايپا د*ر طراحي خطوط خود*رو اغراق كرد*ه و برخي خطوط بد*نه با هم هماهنگي ند*ارند*. برخي د*يگر نيزمينياتور را شبيه خود*روهاي لانچياي ايتاليايي مي*بينند*. جالب است اين خود*رو نيز بنا بر اعلام رئيس مركز تحقيقات سايپا با كمك مشاوران ايتاليايي طراحي شد*ه است. با اين شرايط د*ر يك كلام مي*توان گفت رانا ساد*ه و زيبا و مينياتور طراحي پيچيد*ه*اي د*ارد*. اما باز هم بايد* د*يد* سليقه ايراني*ها كد*ام يك را بيشتر مي*پسند*د*. فرمان*پذيري و تعاد*ل گرچه تا زماني كه هر*د*و خود*رو د*ر شرايط يكسان تست جاد*ه شوند* نمي*توان قضاوت د*قيقي د*ر مورد* فرمان*پذيري كرد* اما رانا از سيستم*هاي توسعه يافته فنر*بند*ي پژو206 بهره مي*برد*؛ به*گونه*اي كه سيستم تعليق عقب د*وباره طراحي شد*ه و به*اصطلاح طراحي بومي تعليق د*ر ايران است. البته اين سيستم با كمك مركز طراحي پورشه توسعه يافته است. طراحي بد*نه خود*رو نيز به*گونه*اي است كه به*نظر مي*رسد* به*طور مناسب به زمين بچسبد* چرا كه گرانيگاه*هاي خود*رو نزد*يك به زمين است. د*ر مورد* مينياتور كه از ترمز توسعه يافته پرايد*، سيستم فنر بند*ي ريو و فرمان توسعه يافته پرايد* بهره گرفته، فعلاً تا تست جاد*ه صورت نگيرد* هيچ قضاوتي نمي*توان كرد* اما به*نظر گرانيگاه و ارتفاع خود*رو زياد* بالاست كه سبب پايين آمد*ن تعاد*ل خود*رو خواهد* شد*. قواي محركه قرار بود* تا قبل از رونمايي مينياتور موتور رانا 1400 سي*سي از خانواد*ه موتور ملي باشد* كه با مركز تحقيقات موتور آلمان FEV به*صورت مشترك طراحي شد*ه بود*. اين موتور 75 اسب*بخار قد*رت د*اشت اما پس از آنكه مشخص شد* مينياتور مجهز به موتور 80 اسب*بخاري با حجم 1500 سي*سي شد*ه*است، موتور رانا هم تغيير كرد* و حال قرار شد*ه تا موتور 1700 سي*سي ملي با قد*رت 110 اسب*بخار روي اين خود*رو قرار گيرد*. البته اين خود*رو با موتور پژو 206 تيپ 5 با قد*رت 105 اسب بخار هم ارائه مي*شود* و قرار است پس از مد*تي موتور 4/1 ليتري ملي نيز روي آن قرار گيرد*. نكته قابل توجه د*رباره قواي محركه رانا و مينياتور حضور شركت آلماني FEVاست. موتور هر*د*وخود*رو با كمك مركز تحقيقات موتور آلمان FEV توسعه يافته، البته موتور مينياتور بر پايه موتور پرايد* است كه محفظه احتراق آن كوچك شد*ه و حجم موتورش افزايش يافته تا راند*مان موتور افزايش يابد*. عد*د* تراكم موتور 7/9 است كه د*ر موتور كنوني پرايد* حد*ود* 5/8است.(عد*د* تراكم هرچه بيشتر باشد* بازد*ه بيشتر مي*شود*). با اين توضيحات د*ر مورد* موتور اين 2 خود*رو مي*توان گفت كه موتور رانا سر*تر از مينياتور است اما بايد* د*يد* عملكرد* گيربكس كد*ام خود*رو بهتر مي*تواند* از قد*رت موتور بهره گيرد*. گيربكس مينياتور تغيير ضريب د*اد*ه شد*ه پرايد* است، حال آنكه رانا از گيربكس تغيير ضريب د*ند*ه د*اد*ه سمند* بهره مي*برد*. د*رباره گيربكس متعلق به مينياتور تا ورود* به بازار نمي*توان قضاوت كرد* اما د*ر مورد* گيربكس رانا مي*توان گفت د*ر د*ند*ه 3 ناهماهنگي بين موتور و گيربكس وجود* د*ارد*. با اين همه به*نظر مي*رسد* قواي محركه رانا به*د*ليل قد*رت بيشتر موتور، طراحي*شد*ن براساس گاز و كاركرد* مناسب روي بنزين از موتور مينياتور برتر باشد*. كد*ام برند*ه مي*شوند*؟ گرچه بازار خود*روي 10 ميليون توماني هم*اكنون خواستاران فراواني د*ر بين مشتريان د*ارد* (حد*ود* 500 هزار د*ستگاه د*ر سال ) اما ابتد*ا بايد* د*يد* آيا 2 خود*روي مذكور كه قرار است طبق وعد*ه مسئولان با قيمت 10 ميليون تومان عرضه شوند* چه سهمي از بازار را به*خود* اختصاص خواهند* د*اد*. با *وجود* اين باز هم بايد* منتظر واكنش بازار بود*. گرچه براساس برخي بررسي*هاي فني به*نظر مي*رسد* رانا برتر از مينياتور باشد*، اما باز هم بايد* د*يد* مرد*م فقط به موارد* فني د*قت مي*كنند* يا ظاهر خود*رو* براي آنها مهم*تر است. اگر براي متقاضيان، ظاهر خود*رو مهم*تر باشد* بايد* د*يد* از 2خود*روي رانا و مينياتور كه هم*اند*ازه هستند* كد*ام مورد* اقبال بيشتري قرار مي*گيرند*؛ آيا رانا با ظاهري ساد*ه يا مينياتور با طراحي متفاوت و كمي پيچيد*ه*اش برند*ه اصلي بازار خواهد* بود*؟ link: http://www.hamshahrionline.ir/News/?id=85356 translation: -the 2 cars compete in the 10 000$ price class -both are constructed with the help of foreign companies (design...) -both have constructed the engine of the car with the help of the biggest engine research center - FEV (from Germany) -they will be offered in the 2nd half of the year 1388 (October 2009) -both have had design and construction costs of about 120 million $ and according to a director of a section of Iran Khodro they make 1500$ profit with producing every car (8500$ costs and they will offer it for 10 000$), so they get the construction costs back after 100 000 Runna cars are produced DESIGN -Runna has a simple design and Miniator a complex design -They have brought the rear design of Soren (which is similar to Audi) in the rear design of Runna with the effect of the design of Peugeot -Miniator uses a platform similar to Kia Pride and Kia Rio while Runna uses a platform similar to 206 and a bit 405 and Samand -we must wait and see which one the people prefer, the complex one or the simple one (DRIVING) - I don't know how to translate it... -a precise comparison cannot be done - it only can be done when both cars are in series production... -Runna uses a system of 206 and another system which was designed with the Porsche research center -Miniator uses the systems of Pride and Rio -Runna is nearer to the ground and so it has a better handling - in this case Runna is better (Miniator is not so near to the ground and has a more worse handling) ENGINE -first Runna was going to use a "national" engine with 1400cc and 75PS power, but after Miniator was unveiled with a "national" 1500cc and 80PS power engine they changed their plan and designed a "national" engine with 1700cc and 110PS power with FEV -Runna also can use the engine of 206 and another national engine -Runna has a better engine, but the gearbox which is from Samand has some some difficulties with the 3rd gear ...with the engine... -all in all the engine of Runna is better CONLUSION -Runna has better technical and mechanical properties -we must wait and see what the market interests more, the technical and mechanical properties or the design (which is different and should be waited to see what the people prefer) -the market of this price class needs 500 000 cars annually ------------------------------- After all I say that Runna is a way better than Miniator...DESIGN AND TECHNICALY. And Kia Pride ... I think they stop the production line themselves, because nobody will be interested to buy this crap anymore. Shapoor May 9th, 2009, 03:15 PM Iran turns Syria into car exporting hub - Press TV (http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=93936§ionid=351020102) http://www.presstv.ir/photo/20090507/bageri_d20090507191241843.JPG IKCO currently produces 52 different vehicle models under 10 makes. Iran Khodro Company (IKCO) completes the second phase of its factory in Syria to make the country a regional base for the export of its sedan Samand. IKCO, the Middle East's largest automaker, launched the first phase of the Samand assembly line in Damascus in 2007. "The capacity of the plant is about 10,000 cars per year and the figure will increase to 30,000 cars annually," said IKCO Chief Javad Najmeddin. Najmeddin added that the project had cost IKCO 60 million dollars. He said that the plant has the capability to export its production to all regional markets. IKCO manufactures various vehicles in seven countries across the globe. The company plans to increase its production to one million vehicles a year. It is anticipated that 800,000 cars will be produced at domestic plants and the remaining will be produced at sites outside Iran. IKCO's new models -- including the private passenger sedan Samand, the wheelchair-accessible Samand, the R90, a second generation LNG-powered 7-seat van, and the dual-fuel Peugeot sedan 407 -- were unveiled at a recent international auto exhibition in northern Iran and will soon be made available to consumers. The third all-Iranian car Runna was introduced by IKCO in April. Persiancat May 10th, 2009, 02:19 AM The company plans to increase its production to one million vehicles a year. It is anticipated that 800,000 cars will be produced at domestic plants and the remaining will be produced at sites outside Iran. very good! I wish Iranian cars reach in European cities one day. Herbicide May 10th, 2009, 03:36 AM They have already. The Samand is available in Turkey, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Ukraine and Russia and has been purchased for government departments in Bosnia and in Serbia. Negotiations have started for establishment in the Polish market. Its not so far away that Iranian products access the greater EU market. Herbicide May 13th, 2009, 08:29 PM Does anyone know what kind of vehicle Khamenei is transported in? Is it like the 'Popemobile'? http://www.iran-daily.com/1388/3398/html/147891.jpg Herbicide May 13th, 2009, 08:49 PM A Popemobile:http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3393/3453071080_abaaa1c46e.jpg?v=0 DingoBingo May 13th, 2009, 09:05 PM ^^ Lol, I don't think so. shugs May 14th, 2009, 10:43 PM on going khaminei discussion moved to the politics thread. omidhercule May 15th, 2009, 01:11 PM The Iran Khodro Company will begin exporting its newly introduced car, Runna, to Turkey by July, IKCO's Turkish distributor says. The third all-Iranian car Runna was introduced by the Middle East's largest automaker last week. The Anatolia news agency quoted MYS Otomotiv manager Yigit Seskir as saying that the new Iranian car would be offered with different options and engines in Turkey. IKCO says the compact car meets Euro IV and V standards which deal with air pollution and the pedestrian impact safety requirements. Runna comes with an efficient 1.6-liter fuel-injected engine, SRS airbags, anti-lock brakes with EBA & EBD, power steering, and power windows and side-view mirrors. http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/uploads/iran-khodro_runna1.jpg Iran Khodro already exports the country's first national vehicle, Samand, to countries such as Turkey, Belarus, Russia, Syria, Tajikistan and Venezuela. http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/uploads/iran-khodro_runna3.jpg omidhercule May 15th, 2009, 01:13 PM US automakers want to cooperate with SAIPA Wed, 15 Apr 2009 03:20:05 GMT Font size : A car produced by SAIPA The managing director of Iranian carmaker SAIPA has said that 'big automakers' in the US have invited his company to participate in joint projects. Mehrdad Bazrpash also noted that the global economic downturn has prompted some of the European automakers to consider selling shares to SAIPA. He said that some of the European automakers that are now interested in cooperating with SAIPA did not show any such inclination in the past, ISNA reported. SAIPA, which was established in 1966, has implemented joint projects with Citroen and Renault of France, Nissan of Japan, and Kia Motors of South Korea. The US auto making sector has been badly hit by the global economic crisis. http://www.presstv.ir/photo/20090415/gholizadeh20090415020633156.jpg humodoide May 15th, 2009, 04:35 PM The Iran Khodro Company will begin exporting its newly introduced car, Runna, to Turkey by July, IKCO's Turkish distributor says. The third all-Iranian car Runna was introduced by the Middle East's largest automaker last week. The Anatolia news agency quoted MYS Otomotiv manager Yigit Seskir as saying that the new Iranian car would be offered with different options and engines in Turkey. IKCO says the compact car meets Euro IV and V standards which deal with air pollution and the pedestrian impact safety requirements. Runna comes with an efficient 1.6-liter fuel-injected engine, SRS airbags, anti-lock brakes with EBA & EBD, power steering, and power windows and side-view mirrors. http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/uploads/iran-khodro_runna1.jpg Iran Khodro already exports the country's first national vehicle, Samand, to countries such as Turkey, Belarus, Russia, Syria, Tajikistan and Venezuela. http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/uploads/iran-khodro_runna3.jpg I don't know from who this retailer got his information, but there is one mistake : IKCo unveiled some protypes of Runna last month, they are far from starting mass production, so I don't see how they want to sell it in july. FreeToLove May 16th, 2009, 07:00 AM Not bad, not bad at all soccerstar10 May 27th, 2009, 07:45 AM hey do you guys know of any Iranian websites for importing cars into Iran? I want to find the limit on the engine i heard you cant get a car with more then 8 cylinders plated. is that true?.. if you guys can give me some websites i would appreciate it! ....and if you can give me a website with the price of cars in Iran that would be great too. Thanks Farzam Persiancat May 27th, 2009, 03:58 PM Samand on Display in Belarus Int'l Auto Show Belarus International Motor Show 2009 opened in Belarus capital, Minsk. Some 150 new cars alongside the most selling cars of the year in Europe were on display in the exhibition from May 4-10. Iran’s giant automaker, Iran Khodro also participated in this international event by displaying Samand LX. Head of the Iranian Samand factory in Belarus, Dimitri Igorov said, "Samand LX shown in the fair is one of Belarus plant’s products in the last year delivered to the customers at a reasonable price." He added that new models of Samand would hit Belarusian markets in near future. It is noteworthy that Samand Lx produced in this country is equipped with a 1800cc engine and is very welcome by customers and lots of people visited Samand in this auto show. http://news.ikco.com/webmodules/news/admin/Uploadimages/rxroa5enydcd4iacb4g2dj5509.jpg The British Bentley Motors introduced its new model in this exhibition. The world economic crisis had also overshadowed the Belarus exhibition and forced car manufacturing companies to give special discounts to costumers so that some cars were sold some 5,000 Euros under their price. 69er May 27th, 2009, 04:34 PM its funny how in iran u have to pay 290 millions tomams for a mercedes S 350 and than u travel to dubai and with 270,000 USD u can buy ur self a bentley GT Speed, Ferrari F430, and a host of other cars that are actually worth 290 k . Shapoor June 9th, 2009, 12:08 AM Volkswagen talks for production line in Iran - AHK.de (http://iran.ahk.de/index.php?id=50&L=0&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=1112&tx_ttnews[backPid]=46&cHash=aedbc27fed) 24.05.09 German Volkswagen has started talks with its Iranian partner for production of VW-Polo.Khodro Emrooz magazine reported in its latest issue that German car manufacturer have had meetings with Kerman-Khodro for vast production of Polo. The magazine says that VW has apparently decided to use Iranian car part manufacturer to reduce the final prices. The same policy Renault is using for its car assembling in Iran. VW and Kerman-Khodro are producing VW-Gol for the Iranian market at a very limited number in Bam. sinasina July 17th, 2009, 09:24 PM نمايشگاه خودروهاي لوكس و تجهيزات در تهران http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/1_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/2_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/3_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/4_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/5_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/6_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/7_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/8_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/9_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/10_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/11_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/12_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/13_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/14_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/15_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/16_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/17_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/18_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/19_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/20_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/21_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/22_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/23_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/24_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/25_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/26_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/27_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/28_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/29_8804250325_L600.jpg http://media.farsnews.com/Media/8804/ImageReports/8804250325/30_8804250325_L600.jpg Persiancat July 20th, 2009, 06:40 PM نمايشگاه ماشينهاي قديمي و اسپرت http://didanihaa.com/photos/karaj-classic-cars/1.jpg http://didanihaa.com/photos/karaj-classic-cars/2.jpg http://didanihaa.com/photos/karaj-classic-cars/3.jpg http://didanihaa.com/photos/karaj-classic-cars/4.jpg http://didanihaa.com/photos/karaj-classic-cars/5.jpg http://didanihaa.com/photos/karaj-classic-cars/6.jpg http://didanihaa.com/photos/karaj-classic-cars/7.jpg http://didanihaa.com/photos/karaj-classic-cars/8.jpg http://didanihaa.com/photos/karaj-classic-cars/9.jpg http://didanihaa.com/photos/karaj-classic-cars/10.jpg http://www.didanihaa.com/archives/2009/07/082220.php gole_hayahou July 21st, 2009, 03:29 PM ^^ the cars at the museum look much cleaner and well looked after since I was there...!!! They were completely covered in dust...! freddie_is_persian August 22nd, 2009, 08:16 AM after Ghash'ghaei Nissan, now : [COLOR="Red"]Shiraz Nissan[/COLOhttp://www.nextconceptcars.com/wp-contentt/nissan-shiraz-2.jpgR] freddie_is_persian August 22nd, 2009, 08:17 AM http://blog.niot.net/blog-images/14_Sep/nissan-shiraz-is-half-car-half-suv-all-odd.jpg I love this one!:banana: :cheers: ^^ freddie_is_persian August 22nd, 2009, 08:20 AM http://images.noticiasautomotivas.com.br/img/d/nissan-shiraz-concept-3.jpg Shapoor September 4th, 2009, 05:07 PM Anyone know about Citoren C5 in Iran? Is it manufactured or imported? http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3469/3886986650_24f0976b7c_o.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/alirezabehpour/3886986650/sizes/o/ http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2511/3886186493_4bb15c842f_o.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/alirezabehpour/3886186493/sizes/o/ http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2623/3886984174_0cf96591d5_o.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/alirezabehpour/3886984174/sizes/o/ Yapachoo September 4th, 2009, 09:43 PM is there a particular reason nissan chose a random iranian tribe to name their latest model after?! it has been niggling at me for months, and now theyre bringing out the nissan shiraz?! why? Herbicide September 5th, 2009, 02:04 AM ^ Nissan always has been a bit weird with names for cars. The Nissan Rasheen (an Irish first name or Arabic surname), Nissan Truck (it wasnt a truck), Nissan Cedric (really stupid sounding English man's name), Nissan Cefiro (made up name sounding latinish), Nissan Fuga!? (again totally made up, but I dont think it even sounds good!). I think they just invent a word that they like the sound of and look to see if there is a word that actually exists that sounds like that and is loosely appropriate then adopt that spelling. If not what the hell! Whats wrong with using a completely made up word! freddie_is_persian September 5th, 2009, 08:42 AM Anyone know about Citoren C5 in Iran? Is it manufactured or imported? http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3469/3886986650_24f0976b7c_o.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/alirezabehpour/3886986650/sizes/o/ http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2511/3886186493_4bb15c842f_o.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/alirezabehpour/3886186493/sizes/o/ http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2623/3886984174_0cf96591d5_o.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/alirezabehpour/3886984174/sizes/o/ Citroen C5 jerry-built in Saipa group. freddie_is_persian September 5th, 2009, 08:50 AM http://tabnak.ir/files/fa/news/1388/6/12/36132_471.jpg http://tabnak.ir/files/fa/news/1388/6/12/36134_967.jpg Zirak September 5th, 2009, 01:09 PM نیسان قشقایی: قشقایی نام بزرگترین ایل ایران است که معمولا در استان فارس هستند Qashqaie is the name of the bigest tribe of Iran.they usually live in Fars province. name of this car can be Iranian Glory.:banana: http://autocult.com.au/img/gallery/SpeedDemon427.jpg Zirak September 5th, 2009, 09:41 PM every one know about citroen CV2.this model was one of the most succesfully models of citroen life. CV2 was in many country like Iran with Jian name, in Uk it named MOLLUSK, in France it named the tempter and it have many names in several contries. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-JRGF2W6k6o/RkbK0eukwUI/AAAAAAAAADs/R3-a57BrFAQ/s320/dyane4.jpg but the important is after near 60 years later of introdustion of this model, now, Citroen designed a new model of CV2: http://i.treehugger.com/images/2007/5/24/Citroen-CV2.jpg it's better to know that new CV2 has PANAROMIC GLASS,sunroof like old model and has modern hood but like the old one.:lol::lol::lol: خودروی سیتروئن ژیان را همه علاقه مندان قدیمی می شناسند.این مدل از موفقترین خودروهای تاریخ فعالیت شرکت سیتروئن بوده و در کشورهای مختلف با نام های گوناگونی شناخته شده است . به طور مثال در انگلستان حلزون , در فرانسه به نام شیطان و چتر چرخدار , در آلمان اردک چاق , در اسپانیا اردک زشت و در فنلاند سیتروئن کرباسی نامیده می شده است . در ایران نیز همگان این خودرو را با نام ژیان می شناسند. پس از گذشت نزدیک به 60 سال از معرفی این خودروی افسانه ای شرکت سیتروئن خبر از طراحی و تولید مدل به روز شده این خودرو را می دهد! خودرو جدید مجهز به شیشه پانورامیک با سقف پارچه ای بوده که می تواند همچون مدل های قدیمی به سمت عقب جمع شود . کاپوت این خودرو به طور کامل یاد آور مدل اصلی می باشد , در حالی که چراغ های جلو با گلگیر های بغل یک پارچه شده اند.بازگشت ژیان می تواند شروعی مجدد برای شرکت سیتروئن در طراحی خودرو های مدرن باشد. source:http://shzbax.tk & the direct link to related post is http://shzbax.blogfa.com/post-6.aspx Gag Halfrunt September 12th, 2009, 05:45 PM ....Nissan Cefiro (made up name sounding latinish)... Céfiro (http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%A9firo) is the Spanish form of Zephirus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anemoi#West_wind_.28Zephyrus.29), the Greek god of the west wind. Herbicide September 12th, 2009, 08:35 PM Céfiro (http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%A9firo) is the Spanish form of Zephirus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anemoi#West_wind_.28Zephyrus.29), the Greek god of the west wind. Thanx! I stand corrected. In that light its actually quite a good name for a car. humodoide September 13th, 2009, 06:26 PM All the Citroen C5 sell in Iran, were made in France. Persiancat October 4th, 2009, 08:46 AM Classic cars show off - Mazandaran http://chtn.ir/UploadedFiles/Fa/Photo/PhotoGallery/Image56827.jpg http://chtn.ir/UploadedFiles/Fa/Photo/PhotoGallery/Image56829.jpg http://chtn.ir/UploadedFiles/Fa/Photo/PhotoGallery/Image56831.jpg http://chtn.ir/UploadedFiles/Fa/Photo/PhotoGallery/Image56837.jpg http://chtn.ir/UploadedFiles/Fa/Photo/PhotoGallery/Image56849.jpg http://chtn.ir/UploadedFiles/Fa/Photo/PhotoGallery/Image56817.jpg http://chtn.ir/UploadedFiles/Fa/Photo/PhotoGallery/Image56809.jpg http://chtn.ir/UploadedFiles/Fa/Photo/PhotoGallery/Image56819.jpg http://chtn.ir/UploadedFiles/Fa/Photo/PhotoGallery/Image56821.jpg http://chtn.ir/UploadedFiles/Fa/Photo/PhotoGallery/Image56823.jpg http://chtn.ir/WebForms/Fa/Photo/PhotoInfo.aspx?ID=129 sinasina October 4th, 2009, 06:18 PM ^^gd stuff :cheers: http://chtn.ir/UploadedFiles/Fa/Photo/PhotoGallery/Image56827.jpg is this chev Camaro? Persiancat October 5th, 2009, 08:32 AM I'm guessing that is a chev Camaro! Herbicide October 5th, 2009, 04:26 PM http://chtn.ir/UploadedFiles/Fa/Photo/PhotoGallery/Image56827.jpg Behind is a 1974 Volvo 245. My dad had one of these! Herbicide October 7th, 2009, 04:34 PM New type of CNG city bus introduced by IKCO: http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/41/irankhodrobuses045701yc6.jpg IKD National Bus Ready for Mass Production “IKD national engine is ready for mass production and hitting the markets,” Reza Asem Nakhjavani, IKD CEO said and underlined, “the mass production of this product depends on purchase order registration and it won’t go for mass production without it.” Talking about the modifications done on this bus Nakhjavani said, “During Tabriz International Motor Show in the last October, its prototype was introduced to the visitors and based on the potential customers’ point of view, some modification has taken place.” “The bus is CNG based and the company has planned for introducing it to the global markets,” he further added. It is noteworthy that National Car or National Bus means that the Iranian carmakers have achieved the required knowledge and ability to design and produce all the parts and components for the product and there is no dependence on any given country in this regard. http://news.ikco.com/en/webmodules/news/Newsview.aspx?newsseq=8176 Replaces this type, seen so much on Iran's streets: http://www.ikd-co.com/images/02.jpg I dont think the new one is low floor. Shame. What about disabled people etc iman08 October 7th, 2009, 05:09 PM ^^It looks somehow ugly or strange, at least it the style isn't so normal.... . But it'll certainly better than that old type without air conditioning system. I read a few months ago that IKCO has started to design a "national" engine for IKCO's new buses, is it already available with this bus or not? Herbicide October 7th, 2009, 07:29 PM Says it needs a "purchase order registration", whatever that is, to start production. But it is ready to start. It is a step forward from where they were, but I have to say that even countries like Belarus and Turkey already make more modern low floor busses. maniei October 7th, 2009, 11:46 PM yeah good point. the bus doesnt look low-floor to me either. shame iman08 October 8th, 2009, 12:24 AM Says it needs a "purchase order registration", whatever that is, to start production. But it is ready to start. It is a step forward from where they were, but I have to say that even countries like Belarus and Turkey already make more modern low floor busses. If your post was the answer to my post,then I have to say that I asked whether this bus is going to be produced with the new national (bus)engine.. . Yes, it's somehow a shame that some countries like Turkey and Belarus, which started producing buses a way later than Iran, are in some fields further ahead. I am sure that the Iranian engineers are able to design and produce much better products! But there is no hope until this government is there... that is all the fault of the government...:bash: . Herbicide October 8th, 2009, 01:19 AM ^^ Yes the IKCO press release I quoted was referring to the engine and I suppose the bus also. They should make more IKCO Megatrans lowfloor busses. You hardly see them in Iran. http://www.ikco.com/products/images/megatransmain.jpg The city transport authorities dont seem to want to order them. They must be more expensive but there should be legislation there to make public transport and public places more accessible to the disabled like there is in Europe. You would think that the welfare of the elderly and the disabled vetererans from the Iraq war would be important to this government. But it seems not.:no: iman08 October 8th, 2009, 06:23 PM ^^You're completely right. The only city which has the low-floor buses is the BRT line of Tehran and that is because of the mayor of Tehran ( Ghalibaf), but the government tries to stop or delay the project's of him, so it also effected the come of the BRT buses, they wanted to stop "importing non-iranian made buses", but they didn't slightly think about the disabled people... . No other city has low-floor buses, because of this government... . Herbicide October 8th, 2009, 06:48 PM Ive been on one of these Megatrans once going to Tajrish Square. But they make them in Iran, there should be no excuse. iman08 October 8th, 2009, 07:05 PM ^^I was also a few times on this type above, they're good, but not the right bus type that Ghalibaf wanted. The buses which Ghalibaf wanted were BRT capable buses... and these "normal" buses which IKCO produces aren't capable with the BRT system. Because the BRT buses have the GPS, show the next station & say the next station etc. . The BRT buses were ordered from Germany. Besides the government officials talk a lot of nonsense, so ... . Herbicide October 8th, 2009, 07:16 PM ^^ I know. The BRT needs articulated or even double articulated low-floor buses. Iran should have been making these a long time ago. Even Serbia makes them: http://www.ikarbus.co.yu/autobusi/ik-218n.jpg iman08 October 9th, 2009, 08:43 PM ^^Yes, but the problem is always the government which owns the IKCO and SAIPA companies, so their manager's are also government people etc. urbastar October 9th, 2009, 10:13 PM saipa website shows that citroën C4, C5 (the old one, not the most recent) and renault megane are built in Iran. However, in the tehran pics there is no C4 or megane (contrary to the old 405 or pride). Does these models really exist there or nobody buy them ? Are the importation of peugeot 207 (or 206+), 308 and 407 rumour or not? iman08 October 9th, 2009, 10:20 PM ^^As far as I know the C4 and C5 are going to be build in SAIPA (maybe they have already started...) and the 207, 308 and 407 are going to be imported in the first phase and depending on the sales rate they will decide which car they are going to produce partly in Iran. So these aren't rumors. urbastar October 11th, 2009, 03:29 PM ^^As far as I know the C4 and C5 are going to be build in SAIPA (maybe they have already started...) and the 207, 308 and 407 are going to be imported in the first phase and depending on the sales rate they will decide which car they are going to produce partly in Iran. So these aren't rumors. The news were from before the elections, so maybe the tense relations between France and Iran will have an impact on it. However i don't know if there is the number somewhere but it seems that renault megane isn't a success in Iran like 405, 206 or even logan (tondar). iman08 October 11th, 2009, 06:55 PM The news were from before the elections, so maybe the tense relations between France and Iran will have an impact on it. However i don't know if there is the number somewhere but it seems that renault megane isn't a success in Iran like 405, 206 or even logan (tondar). Maybe, but they have already signed a contract, so I don't think that they can easily scrap the contract... . Besides one could say that the relationship between France and Iran has improved in the last 2 week's and especially in the current economic situation it would be very bad for Peugeot to cut ties with IKCO, because they have a great market share in Iran and they earn a lot of money there... . Yes, I also think that Renault Megane isn't really a success in Iran in comparison to 206, 405 or L90, but the Megane came later to the Iranian market than the other car's and Megane is more expensive than L90 etc. and cheaper products are usually more successful than expensive car's... . humodoide October 11th, 2009, 07:24 PM Today, the only contract signed between IKco and Peugeot is about the production of 206+ (called 207 in Iran) in IKco's Tehran factory. The importation of 407 began last year (we can see some of them in Tehran streets), but it seems completely stop today. iman08 October 11th, 2009, 09:08 PM ^^How do you know that it is stopped? urbastar October 12th, 2009, 10:30 PM I don't think that megane is so expensive comparing to all the 4x4 we see in tehran street (toyota hyundai etc...) or xantia when this model was new. Northern tehrani can easily afford to buy one. Obviously it is not the case. concerning 407, 206+ etc... i didn't see anything nor on peugeot website neither on other sites. i don't know if iranian website are very reliable :) iman08 October 13th, 2009, 01:09 PM ^^Rich people buy really good car's such as Toyota Camery etc. , but the Megane is built for the middle class and I think that this car is maybe too expensive for them. In fact the websites of IKCO and SAIPA aren't always up to date (no wonder they are government companies...), but there were news that they are imported/going to be imported + some parts locally produced. iman08 October 14th, 2009, 02:12 AM GHASHGHAI is an Iranian Name Nissan Company announced that the name of «Ghashghai», one of its new products, has been inspired from the name of an Iranian tribe. According to Fars news Agency, Nissan Company described in a report the reasons for selecting the name of Ghashghai for the vehicle. Based on this report Ghashghai is the name of a nomad tribe near Shiraz city in Iran. The reason for naming the latest high quality Nissan SUV is its high performance capability in urban areas as well as deserts and mountain impassable routs. The report says Ghashghai is one Nissan’s 2007 selling products of which 400 thousand units have been produced by 2009. Following a success in Europe as a selling SUV product, it will hit Iranian market in near future. link: http://news.ikco.com/EN/News.aspx?docID=8286 iman08 October 14th, 2009, 02:14 AM Good news...:) IKCO and SAIPA Not to Be Merged SAIPA group new CEO announced that SAIPA and IKCO would not be merged. In a gathering of SAIPA senior mangers and in an interview with reporters, Nematollah Poostindooz said, “Since preserving brand is a global advantage for a company and there have been many efforts for brand building by these two companies, it does not seem logical to merge IKCO and SAIPA. “We will definitely use common capabilities of SAIPA and IKCO to improve the country’s auto industry; and in order to win the global car markets, there should be a coordination and unity between these two companies,” he added. link: http://news.ikco.com/EN/News.aspx?docID=8285 Herbicide October 14th, 2009, 04:52 AM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3120/2708557487_374c158f14_o.jpg |