^^ exactly, and it doesnt say there going to build it. it just said
"The Kuwaiti government is about to break ground on the City of Silk"
not the tower itself

^^ Actually it gives us estimated completion as 2016 so it's for sure not for a whole city. If i remember right its going to take something around 20 years. So i think the date is for the tower but if so, the article is even less honest, becouse its propably imposible to bulid such thing in 6 years when they propably haven't even start with soil testing.

whats the status of this project?

We have to be patient on this project, this thing will truely be massive (unless the design changes) its a marathon and will take about 4 times longer than Burj Dubai.

whats the status of this project?

should be Approved already. the whole city of silk is approved but about the tower itself, not 100% sure

Name: Burj Mubarak al Kabir
where: Kuwait
Cost: $7.37 billion
Estimated Completion: 2016
The price seem about right. (but of course they will go over budget :lol:)

There is no way they can complete the tower by 2016 :ohno:

^^^^ I am agree, 2016 seem premature and I always heard 2025 for the entire city of Silk project. BTW the burj mubarak seem more massive than the nakheel Harbour tower.

ENORMOUS PROJECT...THOUGH I DOUBT IT WILL EVER BE BUILT !

It's no time for mega-projects right now...and it's not like Kuwait is already in the center of the Map, as Dubai succeeded in achieving before even Burj Dubai works got started...

ENORMOUS PROJECT...THOUGH I DOUBT IT WILL EVER BE BUILT !

It's no time for mega-projects right now...and it's not like Kuwait is already in the center of the Map, as Dubai succeeded in achieving before even Burj Dubai works got started...

No, but Dubai started also it's mega-projects as a "no name" and thus gained attention. Why shouldn't Kuwait follow this example? I guess we will soon see a lot to rise there in Kuwait!

It could be an amazing feeling to wake up in 1 km height :). And even to go asleep!
Let's have a look: The more high you are, the longer day you have! You will see an amazing sunset as the last person at the exact location - people at the ground will have a night in that moment. And you will be the first out from the bed, because you will see the sunrise as the first one..
Wouldn't it be great? :).

No, but Dubai started also it's mega-projects as a "no name" and thus gained attention. Why shouldn't Kuwait follow this example? I guess we will soon see a lot to rise there in Kuwait!

LET'S WAIT AND SEE then...

It could be an amazing feeling to wake up in 1 km height :). And even to go asleep!
Let's have a look: The more high you are, the longer day you have! You will see an amazing sunset as the last person at the exact location - people at the ground will have a night in that moment. And you will be the first out from the bed, because you will see the sunrise as the first one..
Wouldn't it be great? :).


So when you build at sea level, you are 1000m above SEA LEVEL!

If you are on top of a mountain, let's use the Zugspitze in Germany for example, you are at almost 3000m. Does it really make a difference to see the sunrise or sunset 30 seconds earlier or later? If you had an outdoor elevator, could you see the sunrise then push the button for the bottom floor and see it again? Or push all the buttons and see it 105 times?

How about at the top of Mt. Everest? 29,000 feet or 8848m! Then build the skyscraper on top if it. THAT would make a difference. (Once you pumped oxygen up to the tower)

It could be an amazing feeling to wake up in 1 km height :). And even to go asleep!
Let's have a look: The more high you are, the longer day you have! You will see an amazing sunset as the last person at the exact location - people at the ground will have a night in that moment. And you will be the first out from the bed, because you will see the sunrise as the first one..
Wouldn't it be great? :).

I calculated it to approx. 4 min or something, dont know if i did it correct.
1/w * atan ( sqrt(2h/R) ) = sqrt(2h / R)/w
h = tower height = 1000, R = earth radius = 6'500'000, w = angularvelocity = 2pi/24h ????
Did i do this correctly?

Yippie! That would be just great. One could try to go even higher to, lets say, Umeå Sweden. Live in a flat like i do with no curtains. Its not even dark at midnight, i hate this sun :crazy2:

So when you build at sea level, you are 1000m above SEA LEVEL!

If you are on top of a mountain, let's use the Zugspitze in Germany for example, you are at almost 3000m. Does it really make a difference to see the sunrise or sunset 30 seconds earlier or later? If you had an outdoor elevator, could you see the sunrise then push the button for the bottom floor and see it again? Or push all the buttons and see it 105 times?

How about at the top of Mt. Everest? 29,000 feet or 8848m! Then build the skyscraper on top if it. THAT would make a difference. (Once you pumped oxygen up to the tower)

Why don't you go outside of the PC to breathe fresh air when your mood isn't at it's best?

I calculated it to approx. 4 min or something, dont know if i did it correct.
1/w * atan ( sqrt(2h/R) ) = sqrt(2h / R)/w
h = tower height = 1000, R = earth radius = 6'500'000, w = angularvelocity = 2pi/24h ????
Did i do this correctly?

Yippie! That would be just great. One could try to go even higher to, lets say, Umeå Sweden. Live in a flat like i do with no curtains. Its not even dark at midnight, i hate this sun :crazy2:

Well, I didn't count it. Just imagined it :). Anyway, it would depend on the season, surface characteristics of the set/rise, and so many other things.

The sunrise could be earlier about only several seconds. But seeing the aftersunset sky would take minutes..

But I agree with the angry one^^. The visible and worthy difference could be seen at 8km+. But it wasn't about the fact, but FEELING, that if you buy an apartment for several millions, you can expect also the added value of feeling you have a longer day represented by earlier sunrise and later sunset. That's all.

How does one judge anger, or fun ideas, just from typed words....

Must be a personal thing.

Funny.

I live at the top of a mountain that is exactly 1000 feet above the surrounding flat areas. I love every second of the evenings I can see the sunset and its' long after-effects. I would love to live on a km high tower at the very top, no matter where it was built. The problem is, how many people in the world will be able to experience it in a building (those with extreme money, at least in our lifetime) or those who live on a mountain and can only pretend our living room is in a skyscraper!

I calculated it to approx. 4 min or something, dont know if i did it correct.
1/w * atan ( sqrt(2h/R) ) = sqrt(2h / R)/w
h = tower height = 1000, R = earth radius = 6'500'000, w = angularvelocity = 2pi/24h ????
Did i do this correctly?

Yippie! That would be just great. One could try to go even higher to, lets say, Umeå Sweden. Live in a flat like i do with no curtains. Its not even dark at midnight, i hate this sun :crazy2:
I did a quick calculation. It involves the geo latitude and the season so it gets a little complicated, but rougly speaking you will have almost half an hour of extra sunlight each day at the top. Which is more than I expected myself, I must say. But who really wants more sunlight in Kuwait?

But who really wants more sunlight in Kuwait?

That's the question! :)

Vipfreak2: nothing personal..

kinda looks like the burj.... dont ya think? =S

Way to tall, who is going to want to live up there?

i don't have the money..but i would do it :)

kinda looks like the burj.... dont ya think? =S

It looks nothing like the Burj Dubai.

Imagine analog buttons in the elevators for this building :D

impressive, it seems Dubai. Pretty

It looks nothing like the Burj Dubai.

Only thing making this look like BD is separate towers rising at different heights.

الله يرزقنا أحسن منه بالجنة

Will this be build or not?

I thought there was news about it... :( I want to see some news!

^^ Yeah, any updates?

Will this be build or not?

Probably not. The entire "silk city" seems too good to be true.
I mean, do you actually think that THIS will be built? Even Dubai looks poor compared to this!

http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTOGMC/Images/Four_Cities_CGI.jpg

I reckon it can be done

Nothing is impossible, I trust our Kuwaiti fellows can do much more than that!!

If in 20 years Dubai can go from

This (1990):

http://www.overseaspropertymall.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/dubai1989.jpg

to THIS (2009):

http://i27.tinypic.com/1zouae9.jpg





Yes, it can be done.

Whoa that is an awesome Dubai transformation

What does this thread have to do with Dubai?

What does this thread have to do with Dubai?


Just saying, it is possible to "build" a whole city from scratch---with the right people on your side and enough $$$

But... apart from what you're saying, is there any news about the approval [and maybe the start of construction] for this tower?

ahhh Dubai. Let's review how successful that is turning out... not so much!

ahhh Dubai. Let's review how successful that is turning out... not so much!
That "City of Silk" day dreaming is much more insane than Dubai is now...

And the world have changed, I doubt we will have a "real estate isteria" like we had in the last 10 years.

It will recover, but it will never be like it was. (just like the "dot com" or other bubbles)

ahhh Dubai. Let's review how successful that is turning out... not so much!

Ya ... - the new downtown and the Burj Dubai aren't successful at all ... - Right .....

Each build in Dubai can be pretty, awesome, or anything else, but I don't like this kind of creating cities from the nothing. Dubai is a city without any urbanistic planning and that is what breaks the general skyline.

Each build in Dubai can be pretty, awesome, or anything else, but I don't like this kind of creating cities from the nothing. Dubai is a city without any urbanistic planning and that is what breaks the general skyline.

Agree - and towers only prove to be successful Fury if they are filled with residents (commercial or residential) and prove to be a returnable asset.

Downtown and Burj may look impressive, but if no-one wants to be there it's sort of pointless. Every chance in the coming years that Dubai turns into the weirdest ghost-town, as the money moves to Kuwait, Jordan, or into Asia (where it is being spent wisely, not on reclaiming entire islands.)

a skyline with lots of 300m+ buildings looks exactly the same as a skyline with no skyscrapers, just elevated. You need town planning and density to build your supertalls into to make them relevant.

The mubarak al kabir, if ever built, may never be tallest. The nakheel tower will be over 1,001m, and it already has the green light to build. On top of that, construction shall "restart" in January supposedly. But none the less, Mubarak al Kabir will be a much better tower in my opinion, nothing bad towards the Nakheel, it's good too.

The city of silk, as impossible as it looks, it could be made if Kuwait scoops up enough money. It would be an engineering and architectural miracle. Btw, if you look at that picture at the top of this page, what building is that all the way to the right on that little point? It's very thin and elegant, to me it also looks to be as tall as the burj.

The mubarak al kabir, if ever built, may never be tallest. The nakheel tower will be over 1,001m, and it already has the green light to build. On top of that, construction shall "restart" in January supposedly. But none the less, Mubarak al Kabir will be a much better tower in my opinion, nothing bad towards the Nakheel, it's good too.

The city of silk, as impossible as it looks, it could be made if Kuwait scoops up enough money. It would be an engineering and architectural miracle. Btw, if you look at that picture at the top of this page, what building is that all the way to the right on that little point? It's very thin and elegant, to me it also looks to be as tall as the burj.

The Nakheel tower has been canceled,so if it happens it will be the tallest buiding in the world:)

^^ Not 100% confirmed

^^^^ Not 100% confirmed

unfortunately according the nakheel tower thread,it is cancelled,http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=722506&page=79
but as you said it is not 100% maybe 99% and in dubai we never know what is gonna happened so let's stay optimistic and hope with this 1%:master:

Well I hope it isn't. It would be nice to have a trinity of kilo-talls (kingdom centre, nakheel, kabir). The kingdom centre needs a third redesign though, the second design they had was excellent but the current one isn't cool at all. Just a smoke stack lol

Agree - and towers only prove to be successful Fury if they are filled with residents (commercial or residential) and prove to be a returnable asset.

True - but what makes you think the BD will ever be empty ?

Back OT.
I was hoping for a 3 way race for the next WTS also. It was looking like a possibility before the new breakfast cereal came out - Kredit Krunch ...
Now it may be a decade before we see the next WTS and a race by a few projects may not happen in our lifetime.

I can hope though.

:cheers:

^^

unfortunately according the nakheel tower thread,it is cancelled,http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=722506&page=79
but as you said it is not 100% maybe 99% and in dubai we never know what is gonna happened so let's stay optimistic and hope with this 1%:master:

It is just an assumption by the general community. I now doubt it will ever be made as well (though I hope it will). But as of yet Nakheel themselves have not announced that the tower was dead.

If in 20 years Dubai can go from

This (1990):

http://www.overseaspropertymall.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/dubai1989.jpg

to THIS (2009):

http://i27.tinypic.com/1zouae9.jpg





Yes, it can be done.

Woaaa. Thanks for the picture! :cheers:

If in 20 years Dubai can go from

This (1990):

Picture

to THIS (2009):

Picture

Yes, it can be done.

First of all Kuwait is not like Dubai. Their oil is not running out. Second Kuwait must have visionary leaders and the will to transform like that, something Kuwait is not best known for.

If they start building this today it would take at least 20 years to build all of that. As far as if it possible... it is possible as everything else is. As far as if it is viable for Kuwait right now... that is another story. Why? Because Kuwait doesn't have advanced infrastructure like Dubai does and it's tourism is nowhere near what Dubai offers. I would love to see it but I say there is more chance for Nakheel Tower to be built and for less time than this tower.

First of all Kuwait is not like Dubai. Their oil is not running out. Second Kuwait must have visionary leaders and the will to transform like that, something Kuwait is not best known for.

If they start building this today it would take at least 20 years to build all of that. As far as if it possible... it is possible as everything else is. As far as if it is viable for Kuwait right now... that is another story. Why? Because Kuwait doesn't have advanced infrastructure like Dubai does and it's tourism is nowhere near what Dubai offers. I would love to see it but I say there is more chance for Nakheel Tower to be built and for less time than this tower.
Not even in 20 years, I doubt that we will have another Real estate bubble in the next 15-25 years. Not to mention the competition. Dubai was "running" almost "alone" in the last 20 years...

Not even in 20 years, I doubt that we will have another Real estate bubble in the next 15-25 years. Not to mention the competition. Dubai was "running" almost "alone" in the last 20 years...

honestly I don't think their is room for another Hub in the Gulf Dubai has already got the regional tourism market cornered. In the same way Morocco has cornered the Maghreb tourist market.
If Kuwait wants to go ahead with this project it will have to rely on internal consumption.

Someone posted Middle East's five tallest buildings source on Kingdom Tower in Saudi Arabia thread shows that Burj Mukarak al Kabir is under construction... I didn't see any construction picture on this thread? I am confused? :dunno:

I doubt that we will have another Real estate bubble in the next 15-25 years. Not to mention the competition. Dubai was "running" almost "alone" in the last 20 years...

15-25 years? I beg to differ. The markets and economy have short term memory. give it 2-4 years and we will be in another one. Banks are already acting as they did pre 2007 with all the bonuses they give out to their employees. The bubble will return and another crisis will happen. 15 years? more like in the next few.

I agree however that Kuwait is not and probably wont become a tourist hub so there is no point for this tower in my honest opinion. Dubai is already on the map. Kuwait can't compete or if it does it would take much more than 20 years.

15-25 years? I beg to differ. The markets and economy have short term memory. give it 2-4 years and we will be in another one. Banks are already acting as they did pre 2007 with all the bonuses they give out to their employees. The bubble will return and another crisis will happen. 15 years? more like in the next few.

I agree however that Kuwait is not and probably wont become a tourist hub so there is no point for this tower in my honest opinion. Dubai is already on the map. Kuwait can't compete or if it does it would take much more than 20 years.

Exactly markets have short term memory, as soon as one bubble bursts they start working on creating a new one.
Kuwait Qatar and bahrain all offer the same thing Dubai does and there can only be one Tourist hub in the Middle east.

KUWAIT CITY, Jan 14, 2010 (AFP) - Kuwait's parliament gave its initial approval on Thursday to a four-year 129-billion-dollar (89-billion-euro) economic development plan.

The plan, the first since 1986, includes such mega projects as parts of a new business hub called Silk City and estimated to cost 77 billion dollars, a major container harbour and a 25-kilometre (16-mile) causeway.

It also includes a railway and metro system, new cities and additional spending on infrastructure, particularly in the health and education sectors.

The ultimate goal of the plan, which extends from the current fiscal year to 2013/2014, is to turn Kuwait into a regional trade and financial centre, said deputy premier for economic affairs Sheikh Ahmad Fahad al-Sabah.

The second and final vote is scheduled to take place after at least two weeks.

Sheikh Ahmad said the plan aims to boost the role of private business in the state-dominated economy in which the public sector controls almost three- quarters of the Gross Domestic Product.

The plan also stipulates increased spending in the oil sector, the country's lifeline, to raise crude oil production capacity and modernise oil facilities.

The Gulf state has been vying to diversify its economy, in which oil revenues contribute about 94 percent of total state income.

Political bickering that has rocked Kuwait over the past few years has delayed many development projects, however.

Kuwait has amassed huge foreign assets in the past decade on the back of high oil prices. These assets are estimated at about 230 billion dollars and are mostly located abroad.

Kuwait, which says it holds 10 percent of global crude reserves, pumps about 2.2 million barrels per day.


© Copyright AFP 2010.

http://www.zawya.com/Story.cfm/sidANA20100114T141545ZTSB15
...

Let's hope we get a 100% yes on that:)

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/extreme_machines/4343115.html

^^I saw it in popular science, it was a pretty good article. I think it was the june 2009 issue?

Kuwait City is changing so fast....

Last month, the Burj Khalifa in Dubai climbed higher than any other previous structure ever built. But architects won't rest there. Here are eight building plans trying to capture the title as the next tallest tower.
http://media.popularmechanics.com/images/towers-1-470-0110.jpg

Burj Mubarak al Kabir in Kuwait. (Photograph by Eric Kuhne and Associates)


The Burj Khalifa, currently the tallest tower in the world, officially opened in Dubai on Jan. 4 amid an impressive pyrotechnics display that highlighted the tower's 2716.5-feet of aluminum and steel, and its 26,000 hand-cut glass panels. The Burj Khalifa blows away the next-nearest skyscraper, which is Taiwan's 1670-foot Taipei 101, and the building has even surpassed ultra-tall, ground-cable-supported radio antennas.

Architects' vertical leapfrogging, however, isn't likely to stop at the Burj Khalifa. While the tower will be a tough one to beat, it is likely to remain at the pinnacle for only about another half-dozen years. Developers around the world have proposed numerous new skyscrapers. Some projects have leapt off the drawing boards, though plans for many record-breaking towers have been scuttled because of the global economic spasms of the past couple years. (The original name of the Burj Khalifa, the Burj Dubai, was changed at the last minute to recognize United Arab Emirates president Sheik Khalifa bin Zayed al-Nahyan, who as emir of Abu Dhabi gave struggling Dubai a $10 billion bailout last month.)

So what buildings could be the next to rise up and steal the Burj Khalifa's crown? Here are eight future contenders.

1. Burj Mubarak al Kabir
Location /// Madinat Al Hareer (City of Silk), Kuwait
Projected Height /// 3284 ft
http://media.popularmechanics.com/images/towers-1b-470-0110.jpg
(Photograph by Eric Kuhne and Associates)

This mammoth structure will rise to exactly 3284 feet, or 1001 meters. The height, in meters, is an allusion to the classic collection of Middle Eastern and South Asian folk tales One Thousand and One Arabian Nights, says London-based architect Eric Kuhne, whose firm designed the tower. To break the kilometer-high mark (which is 3281 feet), the $7 billion–plus Mubarak al Kabir will have three interlocked towers that support the overall structure. These towers, or "blades," pinwheel about a triangular central shaft that holds elevators and mechanical equipment. Each blade twists 45 degrees as it rises, for strength, and expands slightly at the top. This Kuwaiti landmark will therefore place more mass and usable space near its zenith compared to other towers, says Kuhne, to avoid the structure having too thin and flexible a tip. To dissipate high-altitude, tower-buffeting gales that could blow at 150 miles per hour, the Mubarak al Kabir will see the first architectural deployment of vertical ailerons—the normally horizontal flaps airline passengers see on a plane's trailing wing edge that help counter wind disturbances. "They will look like continuous ribbons running vertically along the six leading edges of the three blades," Kuhne says. "As [the ailerons] are constantly moving, and catching the sun while they adjust, sunlight will glint off their surfaces. It will add a gentle rippling reflection to the edges of the blades that will add dynamic sparkle to the tower," Kuhne says. The Burj Mubarak has a projected completion date of 2016. [#more (http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/extreme_machines/4343115.html)]

I've been out to the sight of silk city a few times, it's definitely something which is in the works, though there is a lot of ground work to lay first, like freeways and that sort of thing, but it's quite interesting to see this big roads being built that seem to go to nowhere at the moment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nzm5l9GShS8

That's a great video, this is going to be a mindblowing project when finished.

Great leadership in Kuwait to set the groundwork for all this, the results will be worth it.

any news ?

Beautiful, thanks. :)

From the earlier renders, i always thought those were lips (like leaves) on the three tops. Seeing now that they're bent spikes, takes much away from its elegance imo. Otherwise great project!

Have they choose a date for the beginning of the building start ?

Lol I think this will never be build.

I believe ZZ-II it will be build, too bad there are no construction updates so far!

Here is a minor blurb about the project. Looks like Kuwait is serious about getting things moving.

http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100322/FOREIGN/703219865/1002/FOREIGN

"Kuwait’s prime minster calls key meeting to kickstart programme
James Calderwood, Foreign Correspondent

Last Updated: March 22. 2010 12:24AM UAE / March 21. 2010 8:24PM GMT

KUWAIT CITY // More than 150 top government officials met with the prime minister last week to discuss Kuwait’s annual and five-year plans, which will attempt to kickstart the country’s development after years of short-sighted planning and political infighting."

... "The new plan will attempt to boost Kuwait’s lagging infrastructure by pumping billions into megaprojects such as the $77bn City of Silk, a bridge that will connect the new city to Kuwait City and a port on Boubyan Island. The oil sector will also benefit from projects such as a new $14.5bn oil refinery that was previously held up in parliament."

http://i46.tinypic.com/28a733o.jpg

Kilometre high Kuwaiti tower 'will get built'

by Orlando Crowcroft on Jun 20, 2010

The architect behind the plans for a 1,001 metre tall tower in Kuwait say that they believe the project is still going ahead.

Eric Kuhne told ConstructionWeekOnline that although the US$94 billion City of Silk development has been slowed down by the financial crisis and elections in Kuwait, they have received no indication that the project is cancelled.

“As far as we’re concerned everything is going ahead," Kuhne said.

"It has slowed down obviously because of the change of parliaments that has gone on, but we’re working as if everything is OK. We haven’t received any instructions to stop or anything like that."

The 1,001 metre tower is planned as part of a 250km2 development on the Kuwaiti coast, which will include a new airport, a business district and thousands of new housing, office and commercial units.

The project was approved by the Kuwait government in July 2008, but although construction had begun before the financial crisis, little work has been carried out since.

Kuhne said that his firm, Civic Arts, was at present involved in discussions about planning and design.

“We’re still exploring design ideas on it, but mostly we’re just working with the planning process and the political process. It’s fair to say that the economy has slowed things down but it hasn’t stopped anything, we’re still pursuing this like everything is ongoing," he said.

If the development goes ahead it could house up to 700,000 people and create around 450,000 new jobs. The complex is planned to be built across Kuwait Bay and will be linked to Kuwait City by a 23.5-kilometre long bridge. >> Source (http://www.constructionweekonline.com/article-8701-kilometre-high-kuwaiti-tower-will-get-built/)

^^ great news! So there seems to be more than remote chance of getting this built. Though, such a massive project(both the City and Tower) will require years of planning and preparations so it's likely we won't see any visibile progress on this one for many months/years to come :(

^^ First, they should spend more money on developing the primary design of all those surrounding wannabe towers instead of just putting all the "already existed" towers from around the world in.

amazing project

well they havent even decided on the final design... so this won't be moving any time soon.

This looks at least 10 years away from even starting, but good to see its still a "go".

This looks at least 10 years away from even starting, but good to see its still a "go".
yeah and sadly the only possible competition for burj dubai for now. but with so many 600m towers in near future i can see something like this going up at one time too. for kuwait i dunno, seems like a vision for me

Cool design (although unofficial) but I'd prefer they not build this... (maybe 20 years from now would be okay)

yeah and sadly the only possible competition for burj dubai for now. but with so many 600m towers in near future i can see something like this going up at one time too. for kuwait i dunno, seems like a vision for me

Don't forget about Kingdom Tower.

Hi all.

There was a time it was looking like (or more like I was hoping) this tower, Nakheel Tower, and Kingdom tower were going to be racing for the title of the next WTS. Would have been great.

Alas Nakheel seems cancelled (I still cling to some hope ...) and this project, although not abandoned is moving through the hoops towards reality very slowly. Kingdom is by far the best candidate right now to be the next WTS.

I do hope this project will accelerate towards becoming a reality.

:cheers:

oH, VERY HIGH!

yeah, 1kilo that great..:nuts:

^^ According to wikipedia Opening 2016 this impossible..:lol:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madinat_al-Hareer

The wikipedia article is extremely outdated unfortunately....

PRESS RELEASE – 16th September 2010

CIVICARTS TO RECEIVE COVETED ACCOLADE AS ARABIAN PROPERTY AWARDS’ WINNERS ARE ANNOUNCED


Those hoping to source the ultimate architects across the Middle East and North Africa would be well advised to start and end their search with the winners of a highly acclaimed property industry competition. The Arabian Property Awards in association with Bloomberg Television have just been revealed, putting a number of leading companies firmly under the spotlight. One of these rightly proud winners is CivicArts / Eric R Kuhne & associates, which has won two awards in the Mixed Use section of the Architecture category, with their designs for the Madinat Al Hareer (City of Silk) and Mohammed Bin Rashid Gardens. All the successful entrants will be invited to attend a high profile gala dinner at the Madinat Jumeirah in Dubai on October 26th where they will be presented with their awards.

The event is part of the International Property Awards, the world’s most prestigious competition dedicated to finding the best real estate professionals across the globe. The highly competitive nature of the Arabian property market means these are coveted awards for designers and developers alike.

Later this year, top scoring winners from the Arabian Property Awards will compete against other winning companies from Europe & Africa, the UK, the Americas and Asia Pacific to find the ultimate ‘World’s Best’ in each category.

Much of the judging was carried out by the International Property Awards’ esteemed panel of judges at the London offices of Bloomberg Television but entries were also outsourced to leading experts in each particular field throughout the world. This year’s judges included Luke McKend, industry head of property markets for Google UK; Peter Bolton King, group chief executive of the National Federation of Property Professionals; Christopher Hall, president elect of FIABCI; Thijs Stoffer, International Consortium of Real Estate Agents Association (ICREA); Fiona Nixon, chairman of the Australia Institute of Architects, Hendrik Nelde, president of FIABCI Belgium; Helen Shield, editor-in-chief of International Homes Luxury Collection magazine and Sven Johns, CEO of the German Real Estate Association. [source (http://bit.ly/cLAzlB)]

I would like to ask a question. If the works on tower began in early 2010 with the workers working 24 hours a day non stop until finish the tower how long(years) you think that the tower took to complete. Thank you.

^^ If they started from the begginning(soil testing, piling) I think it would've taken them at least 8 years from now

^^ If they started from the begginning(soil testing, piling) I think it would've taken them at least 8 years from now

I depends on how fast they want to do it. If they used the top down method for the foundation and had a huge number of workers on site, I think that it could be completed in 6 years like the Burj. :okay:

Comon, there is even no infrastructure done yet. It is at least couple of years before they will (eventually) start with this one. If any tower higher than BK will be uc in near future it will certainly be Kingdom Tower.

yeah there is no way the construction is going to start soon, isn't there a ton of work to do on creating the land the tower will be on and if so the closest roads to the tower are almost 4km away

i guess the tower will be complete in another 10 years from now.

its too tall..and will anyone occupy those spaces available at that height?it won't be that affordable..

Probably not. The entire "silk city" seems too good to be true.
I mean, do you actually think that THIS will be built? Even Dubai looks poor compared to this!

http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTOGMC/Images/Four_Cities_CGI.jpg

FUCKING SH1T !!! That's insane!! :nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts:

I won't believe it until I see it getting built. And I repeat, I'd like to see more supertalls around the main tower :cheers:

^^ wow that looks amazing....unlike dubai it doesn't have thousands of tall buildings, so id say there is more chance of this getting built over most projects in dubai :)

It reminds me the Al-Hamra tower,but since I REALLY like the design of AH tower,this one is also really amazing :) :banana:
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if somebody can tell us if they started to build this... just tell us, please guys? :ohno:

Comon, there is even no infrastructure done yet. It is at least couple of years before they will (eventually) start with this one.
I doubt they start building this tower if first they don't build some of the buildings around.

When they started Burj Khalifa, a lot of buildings (and infrastructure) was built.

Dubai 2003.
http://tendancehightech.com/images/trends/dubai-2003.jpg

Yeah I've gotta say I don't this will ever get built either. But it would amazing if it did get built well the problem is building it with out going bankrupt.

this is the future Kuwait is aiming at, Kuwait as a country has one city only, its a rich country and its population will grow, this is going to happen, but it will take time, as long as the countries around it (Iran, Iraq) don't harm it (again) ...

^^ when did Iran harm Kuwait?

^^ when kuwait found the "iranian revolution grad" working as spies in high profile jobs in kuwait + the so called "Kuwati hizbullat" which organized the occupation of the mosque in Makkah 10 years ago.... but this is irrelevant
http://www.alarabiya.net/views/2010/05/05/107731.html

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^^ wow that looks amazing....unlike dubai it doesn't have thousands of tall buildings, so id say there is more chance of this getting built over most projects in dubai :)

:lol: More chance of this getting built then most projects in Dubai!!!!
Most of the projects will be completed in Dubai that have been started if not all of them. This is a completely different scenario though

the project is under construction!.................................................................i hope.

^^ they are making the roads and highways now, no idea how far are they now thu.

if this project is getting started with infrastructure at least i dont see us getting any pics of it any time soon, unless Google gets some updates

If any tower higher than BK will be uc in near future it will certainly be Kingdom Tower.

Sorry to pull this thread up again (looks like there are no current news?) - But what are you referring to when talking about "Kingdom Tower"? I know there's such a thing in Riyadh, but it's already built and doesn't surpass the highest stuff.

It's a popular name for Saudi skyscrapers....
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=525819

Ah, thanks. Couldn't remember that the Jeddah tower was also called this name.

So Jeddah Kingdom Tower or Kuwait Burj Mubarak Al Kabir will be greater

http://www.civicarts.com/news/080829c/CA704_MAH_03.jpg

diagram: http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=51648019

note Kingdom Tower will be taller than 1000m, how much is not known yet.

This building however could be raised up to get the title too, but this is only hypothetical, because this building had no new news since fairly a long time. if there is an opponent for the tallest structure its right now only the solar tower if built one day might become tallest structure, but not tallest skyscraper.

long time ago since the last news about the Burj Mubarak. Is it dead?

i heard on the radio last week that Kuwait to build another tallest building in the world, i think there it is.. any news?

Keep in mind this is long term project. They are going to build here quite large city from the scratch. They even have (or have had) to prepare special laws to start even thinking about it. And even though this one is on the last place on the list of the ubertalls likely to be build (after kingdom tower and india tower) I still think it's not dead and and it may be build sometime in the future just probably with different design since current one is rather just an extreme vision not likely to be build (although I would love to see it).

The last information about this project I red here or in the kuwait section was more than half a year back saying that they started works on designing the city which will take one year so the whole 2011. If this is still alive I expect some news on this in 2012.

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i guess if we hear from it its because side projects start and stuff. i also think this project was supposed to be build for like 20 years so its in fact a long term thing they tried to plan out. i could imagine if they really build that city infrastructure and stuff that this tower may be redesigned and resized. to say we build a 1001m tower is just promoting this project. also beside jeddah and india tower i think the solar tower may be not too unlikely to be under construction in the next few years.

to say we build a 1001m tower is just promoting this project.

There is almost nothing certain about this project so it may be a posibility too, but hey after all Kuwait is an arabic country so maybe we will see something tall here. And still I think this tower is more likely to be build than nakheels one.

There is almost nothing certain about this project so it may be a posibility too, but hey after all Kuwait is an arabic country so maybe we will see something tall here. And still I think this tower is more likely to be build than nakheels one.

yeah nakheels one is dead as a doornail, which is kinda said because it was damn massive and awesome, but well.

I updated page 1 of this thread with some rendering. If you know more of high quality, feel free to share (with sources), so I can add them. Thanks.

Hi all.

The other thing that's sad about the Nakheel tower is they had already installed some of the foundation barretts before the axe fell. It was well beyond the design phase.

:cheers:
Ray.

Es increible la altura de esta torre, wow I like very much. :cheers:

I think after Jeddah Kingdom Tower Kuwait will built this

when you start work?

when you start work?

as much as i would like this building to start (the design is just amazing i mean look at that last render posted and it would be a worthy new tallest) it doesn't seem likely to be starting soon. this project was designed as a long term project and it is still a stale proposal. i don't expect to see any big news on this project for at least another two years. keep in mind that this project comes together with infrastructure that is needed at that location and this tower is the centerpiece of a big concepted citylike project. before that whole thing gets a go there is no chance this tower will rise. Also the funding is unclear, so there is no need to bump this thread unless there are news for it.

:cheers:

grazie! :) thanks!

Awesome project !

Start of construction?

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Start of construction?

probably never :ohno:

yeh, unfortunately :(