Lebanon deserves a thread (and forum) that is positive and shows the greatness of our country.

That means posting about the great things in Lebanon and the promising future of the country. It's about time there is a thread that isn't polluted with ignorant posts about the politics of 20 years ago. That means if you are Israeli or Palestinian and you want to post here please avoid arguing and limit your discussion to the topic.

All are welcome...

Thanks


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LEBANON AT NIGHT

Downtown Beirut:

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Verdun 730:

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Verdun 732:

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Holiday Inn (Dunes):

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Hotel Riviera:

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The famous Bristol Hotel:

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Palm Springs Village (restaurants and shopping plaza):

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Heliopolitan Hotel (In the distance):

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The Beirut Light House (Manara) and Palace Cafe restaurant/club:

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Corniche:

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Allay Village:

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More to come...

Nice pictures Beirut!

how can you mention great things in lebanon & the promising future of the country in the same breath, when i see & hear from the ordinary lebanese people on tv saying that the country is turned into a shambles, and we should all emigrate because there's no future for us & for our children in this country?

am i missing something?

psst.. i'm not israeli nor palestinian.

how can you mention great things in lebanon & the promising future of the country in the same breath, when i see & hear from the ordinary lebanese people on tv saying that the country is turned into a shambles, and we should all emigrate because there's no future for us & for our children in this country?

am i missing something?

psst.. i'm not israeli nor palestinian.

sad to hear that but if you guys do move somewhere make sure its colombia;), we love lebanese people in colombia, and we already have a largte population of lebanese people in colombia, and one of our greatest president was lebanese, besides lebanese women are just gorgeous :drool:

btw: i dont care about politics your country is beautiful!!!!!!

Nice pictures Beirut!

Thanks! I just added some more . . .

how can you mention great things in lebanon & the promising future of the country in the same breath, when i see & hear from the ordinary lebanese people on tv saying that the country is turned into a shambles, and we should all emigrate because there's no future for us & for our children in this country?

am i missing something?

psst.. i'm not israeli nor palestinian.

Well I know many EMIGRANTS (including myself) that would LOVE to go back. Just be patient the situation there is improving. I am sure that there is a great future ahead for Lebanon.

And you should know how Lebanese people talk, they are always pessimistic and always complain but deep down they love Lebanon more than anything and would hate having to leave. Just ask any emigrants, they will tell you they regretted ever leaving.

sad to hear that but if you guys do move somewhere make sure its colombia;), we love lebanese people in colombia, and we already have a largte population of lebanese people in colombia, and one of our greatest president was lebanese, besides lebanese women are just gorgeous :drool:

btw: i dont care about politics your country is beautiful!!!!!!

Thank you conquest! Colombia is beautiful too and so are the women! Btw, how could you forget the one and only Shakira (half Colombian/half Lebanese)... she is the definition of what happens when you put our peoples together.

If you love Lebanese women so much you should go visit Beirut... :)

maan!!! those pictures are awesome.
Thanks for sharing 7abeeb 2albi.

maan!!! those pictures are awesome.
Thanks for sharing 7abeeb 2albi.

Youre welcome Pali, are you from Lebanon or do you live in Palestine?

Lebanon Kicks ASS!!

Lets hope they become a model of Muslim/Christian coexistence living side by side in peace.

I think Beirut has incredible tourism potential!!

Lebanon Kicks ASS!!

Lets hope they become a model of Muslim/Christian coexistence living side by side in peace.


It already is.


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It already is.


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Wishes do not mean "It already is". I hope it become so oneday

how can you mention great things in lebanon & the promising future of the country in the same breath, when i see & hear from the ordinary lebanese people on tv saying that the country is turned into a shambles, and we should all emigrate because there's no future for us & for our children in this country?

am i missing something?

psst.. i'm not israeli nor palestinian.
Well I am an emigrant too, but after I graduate I think of moving back there.
"The Land of Milk and Honey" ;)

It already is.


http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/rhmud/Lebanon/3556f2b4.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/rhmud/Lebanon/daa922b9.jpg
And, yes "united we stand".
By the way, Beirut! great photos!

Well I am an emigrant too, but after I graduate I think of moving back there.
"The Land of Milk and Honey" ;)

To apply for the Gulf States ? :cheers:

Beirut is beautiful at night :)

^^also at day:)

Nice Pictures

this may sound painful, but i believe the second phrase when 2 lebanese men meet after " sho fi ma fi?" is " ma bidak tfel?".

this may sound painful, but i believe the second phrase when 2 lebanese men meet after " sho fi ma fi?" is " ma bidak tfel?".

Are you even Lebanese? Why are you so negative? Dont you know that it is part of Lebanese culture and tradition to always strive for something more? Lebanese people are never satisfied and thats why they always talk like that... they dont enjoy Lebanon as much because they live there and see it every day, but once you take Lebanon away from them they will come running back missing it. Lebanese people are always looking to make more money and find a better job, thats why they want to emigrate because Lebanon is too small for the growing population.
The country is becoming a land just for tourists...

Without a doubt , Beirut is the "Paris of the middle east" !

According to this site, Beirut Trade Center (40 F) is completed! Any pics?

http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=105678

And any hope in this project beginning again?

http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=131285

According to this site, Beirut Trade Center (40 F) is completed! Any pics?

http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=105678

And any hope in this project beginning again?

http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=131285


First of all, please dont look at that site anymore for projects in Lebanon, it is completey off and has not been updated it YEARS!

As for thr Trade Center, it has not even begun construction because of complications. It is actually a renovation to an already existing incomplete tower. So I guess you can say it is half-way complete but nothing has changed since 1975!

As for the second link, that is completely outdated. I believe that poject is the current Marina Towers. It will be complete this year, see my new thread regarding that...

^^ Thanks!

I had a hunch that list was a bit off. Anyway, thanks for the updates!

nice, thanks for sharing and welcome in SSC :)

Are you even Lebanese? Why are you so negative? Dont you know that it is part of Lebanese culture and tradition to always strive for something more? Lebanese people are never satisfied and thats why they always talk like that... they dont enjoy Lebanon as much because they live there and see it every day, but once you take Lebanon away from them they will come running back missing it. Lebanese people are always looking to make more money and find a better job, thats why they want to emigrate because Lebanon is too small for the growing population.
The country is becoming a land just for tourists...

calm down, don't get upset so easily, knowing that the medical bills in lebanon is so huge. so, we don't want you to lose both your nerve & money.

yes, i'm not lebanese, because i wasn't a requirement, since you said " all are welcome".

i'm not being negative, i'm simply stating a stuation that many feel, yet can't manfest except in a sarcastic manner. for me, i believe it's a method people should use among other, to overcome their daily tough struggle (doctors recommend that, by the way).

yes, it's part of lebanese culture to set a goal in life & strive to achive it, that's totally legitmate. but also, nagging & complaining about everything is one of their favourite part of culture, too, and they're doing a hell of a good job. apparently nothing seems to pleases them @ all.

anyhow, i didn't want to post comments in this thread to compliment you on the pix, which i think are great, but i wanted to specify my stand on certain issue. now, you didn't like my opinion, well, tough luck, because i'm not going to change it. but on the other hand, i'm not going to attack you, nor threaten to take away your freedom of expression, and that freedom, my friend, is the true element that you in lebanon should be proud of, not some glittering buildings.

calm down, don't get upset so easily, knowing that the medical bills in lebanon is so huge. so, we don't want you to lose both your nerve & money.

yes, i'm not lebanese, because i wasn't a requirement, since you said " all are welcome".

i'm not being negative, i'm simply stating a stuation that many feel, yet can't manfest except in a sarcastic manner. for me, i believe it's a method people should use among other, to overcome their daily tough struggle (doctors recommend that, by the way).

yes, it's part of lebanese culture to set a goal in life & strive to achive it, that's totally legitmate. but also, nagging & complaining about everything is one of their favourite part of culture, too, and they're doing a hell of a good job. apparently nothing seems to pleases them @ all.

anyhow, i didn't want to post comments in this thread to compliment you on the pix, which i think are great, but i wanted to specify my stand on certain issue. now, you didn't like my opinion, well, tough luck, because i'm not going to change it. but on the other hand, i'm not going to attack you, nor threaten to take away your freedom of expression, and that freedom, my friend, is the true element that you in lebanon should be proud of, not some glittering buildings.


Yes, everyone is welcome. I only asked you because you were criticizing Lebanese people and the country and in my opinion you have no right to do that unless you actually live there and know first-hand about Lebanese culture and lifestyle.

I am calm, I am totally fine and I am happy with Lebanese freedom. But this site IS about "glittering buildings" not politics.

My final point is dont generalize all of the Lebanese people if a few of your Lebanese friends like to whine and complain. That is not how we all are. Most of us are proud of our country and have faith in its future.

Wakrah its true, you've been negative in all Lebanon thread but it is your opinion, just one thing, don't generalize because not everyone is like that. I'm sure there is people in your country that are the same or probably worse. Try to look on the positive side:)

7ata inti ya Nadini? ya dili :shocked: i really began to like you ..sob..sob :bash:

Well what can I say, the least you can say something positive then portraying all the negative side. Just because you have different opinions doesn't mean I don't like you, just theres some opinions you should keep to yourself because whatever you said isnt applied to every Lebanese you see.

Hey I got a small question, when I hear lebanese people here (France) speak in arab, they put a lot of french words in it (moreso than the people from maghreb in my opinion), is it just because they live here or is it also the case in lebanon?

Hey I got a small question, when I hear lebanese people here (France) speak in arab, they put a lot of french words in it (moreso than the people from maghreb in my opinion), is it just because they live here or is it also the case in lebanon?

Yes thats why many Lebanese say they dont speak Arabic, they speak "Lebanese" because we mix Arabic words with local slang, English, and of course French. It is very common for Lebanese people to use French, practically half the Lebanese vocab is taken from French.

by the way, this story is true. a lebanese who was studying in france decided to take his french girlfriend with him to lebanon for summer holiday & to interduce her to his family.
back home, the family told the man's mother that the french girl doesn't speak one word of lebanese or arabic, so she, the mother, should be careful & talk slowly to the guest.

few days later, the girl arrived and after spending few days with the family, the mother one day gatherd the whole family and told them angerily" how could you lie to me and tell me that the girl doesn't speak any word of lebanese?".. "what do you mean, mom?" the son said, the mother replied "because she always keep saying:Bonjour, Ca Va?, Merci"!!!!!!!!

Yes thats why many Lebanese say they dont speak Arabic, they speak "Lebanese" because we mix Arabic words with local slang, English, and of course French. It is very common for Lebanese people to use French, practically half the Lebanese vocab is taken from French.


the persian language does also have a lot of french and english words :)

This is very true, and it is not because it is taken from french language. Many Lebanese say they don't speak arabic they speak Lebanese for numerous reason. One, the reason being mentioned above (use french words). And second the Lebanese language is mostly derived from Aramaic.

"It contains small influences from Aramaic, and possibly Phoenician, as well as more recently introduced Turkish and (to a lesser extent) French vocabulary."
"The only way to speak Lebanese is to learn the “Lebanese Language”. Learning Arabic will not allow people to speak or understand Lebanese, on the contrary if you try to Learn Arabic before you can speak Lebanese, it may make Lebanese seem tougher to learn."

http://phoenicia.org/leblanguage.html

Pretty interesting link, even if I knew a moroccan would have trouble understanding a Saudi, I had no idea "arabic" was used to describe totaly different languages, thanks!

anyhow, Nadini, whenever you decided to become a teacher of lebanese dialect, i'll be your 1st student, & i don't care how many times i'll flunk :)

But Lebanese people would understand someone if they spoke in regular Arabic, right ?

Dubliner it depends, If you were raised in a Lebanese family that emigrated to another country and you didn't go to arabic school, you won't know how to speak arabic. You would learn the Lebanese language at home with your parents, but you will not understand arabic at all. Many of my cousins who grew up in Canada do not understand arabic, they only speak Lebanese because at home their parents speak it with them. Usually in Lebanon, you would learn arabic at school in grade 6 till the ending of highschool. Hope it answered your questions :)
wakrah-wi-bas nice of you to say that :)
Virtual, morrocan is very different then arabic is it not? Well I don't understand it, I catch a few words here and there and I speak both Arabic and Lebanese, maybe it's the accent :)

Yes Nadini, that is how it goes. In Lebanon, usually english is used in business and affairs, arabic in government issues, news and written documents, Lebanese and French in public areas or at home.

calm down, don't get upset so easily, knowing that the medical bills in lebanon is so huge. so, we don't want you to lose both your nerve & money.

yes, i'm not lebanese, because i wasn't a requirement, since you said " all are welcome".

i'm not being negative, i'm simply stating a stuation that many feel, yet can't manfest except in a sarcastic manner. for me, i believe it's a method people should use among other, to overcome their daily tough struggle (doctors recommend that, by the way).

yes, it's part of lebanese culture to set a goal in life & strive to achive it, that's totally legitmate. but also, nagging & complaining about everything is one of their favourite part of culture, too, and they're doing a hell of a good job. apparently nothing seems to pleases them @ all.

anyhow, i didn't want to post comments in this thread to compliment you on the pix, which i think are great, but i wanted to specify my stand on certain issue. now, you didn't like my opinion, well, tough luck, because i'm not going to change it. but on the other hand, i'm not going to attack you, nor threaten to take away your freedom of expression, and that freedom, my friend, is the true element that you in lebanon should be proud of, not some glittering buildings.
:righton:

Well what can I say, the least you can say something positive then portraying all the negative side. Just because you have different opinions doesn't mean I don't like you, just theres some opinions you should keep to yourself because whatever you said isnt applied to every Lebanese you see.

It only applies to 99%

This is very true, and it is not because it is taken from french language. Many Lebanese say they don't speak arabic they speak Lebanese for numerous reason. One, the reason being mentioned above (use french words). And second the Lebanese language is mostly derived from Aramaic.

"It contains small influences from Aramaic, and possibly Phoenician, as well as more recently introduced Turkish and (to a lesser extent) French vocabulary."
"The only way to speak Lebanese is to learn the “Lebanese Language”. Learning Arabic will not allow people to speak or understand Lebanese, on the contrary if you try to Learn Arabic before you can speak Lebanese, it may make Lebanese seem tougher to learn."

http://phoenicia.org/leblanguage.html

Learning Arabic will not allow people to speak or understand Lebanese :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Dubliner it depends, If you were raised in a Lebanese family that emigrated to another country and you didn't go to arabic school, you won't know how to speak arabic. You would learn the Lebanese language at home with your parents, but you will not understand arabic at all. Many of my cousins who grew up in Canada do not understand arabic, they only speak Lebanese because at home their parents speak it with them. Usually in Lebanon, you would learn arabic at school in grade 6 till the ending of highschool. Hope it answered your questions :)
wakrah-wi-bas nice of you to say that :)
Virtual, morrocan is very different then arabic is it not? Well I don't understand it, I catch a few words here and there and I speak both Arabic and Lebanese, maybe it's the accent :)

For God's sake, do not mislead the guys & tell them this crap. Lebanese is just like any other Arabic dialect which has foreign influence on it as English, French, Turkish, Persian, Aramaic. What do you call the Algerian Language in this case???

Yes thats why many Lebanese say they dont speak Arabic, they speak "Lebanese" because we mix Arabic words with local slang, English, and of course French. It is very common for Lebanese people to use French, practically half the Lebanese vocab is taken from French.

Could you advise me; who speaks Arabic?

Listen sargon, you know shit so don't talk. This is with experience and go ask everyone, if there is someone who only speaks Lebanese, he won't understand Arabic. Why won't you go visit these sites and read it in order to get you familiarized with what we're talking about.

http://www.lgic.org/en/links_learn.php#04
http://www.lgic.org/en/faq_lebanese01.php
http://www.abcleb.com/lebanese/faq.htm

Read it, unless you don't know how to read of which I wouldn't be surprised. And also this doesn't only applies only to Lebanon. Palestine and northern Syria is also like that. And might I just add, my father is a historian so I think I would know the difference between the arab countries more then you do.

Listen sargon, you know shit so don't talk. This is with experience and go ask everyone, if there is someone who only speaks Lebanese, he won't understand Arabic. Why won't you go visit these sites and read it in order to get you familiarized with what we're talking about.

http://www.lgic.org/en/links_learn.php#04
http://www.lgic.org/en/faq_lebanese01.php
http://www.abcleb.com/lebanese/faq.htm

Read it, unless you don't know how to read of which I wouldn't be surprised. And also this doesn't only applies only to Lebanon. Palestine and northern Syria is also like that. And might I just add, my father is a historian so I think I would know the difference between the arab countries more then you do.

Sorry Nadini, but I have to agree with Sargon. Lebanese is just another Arabic dialect unless you are one of those folks who is trying to Phoeniciacize Lebanon.

No no, I know it is another dialect of Arabic, but Aramaic is included in there to. Obviously it has the same roots habibi, but you must agree that if a Lebanese was only taught Lebanese at home, he wouldn't understand the Arabic language, he will catch a few words, but not understand it completely, im I wrong or right?

No no, I know it is another dialect of Arabic, but Aramaic is included in there to. Obviously it has the same roots habibi, but you must agree that if a Lebanese was only taught Lebanese at home, he wouldn't understand the Arabic language, he will catch a few words, but not understand it completely, im I wrong or right?

I agree with you if you are talking about Classical Arabic, but the same applies to other Arabic Dialects as well e.g.
If a Libyan was only taught Libyan at home, he wouldn't understand the Arabic language
If a Syrian was only taught Syrian at home, he wouldn't understand the Arabic language
Right?

Yes thats what I mean. I was just explaining to dubliner that if a Lebanese was taught only Lebanese, he wouldnt understand arabic classical.

the first 10 threads on the general forum are on lebanon - is it hidden pressure to open a forum ;)

I guess so :)

Listen sargon, you know shit so don't talk...........

This is a very offensive language. Excuse me, I can not argue with you. Anyway, believe it or not; I know about Lebanon & Lebanese much more than you expect. I love the country, the people but I hate exaggeration.

the first 10 threads on the general forum are on lebanon - is it hidden pressure to open a forum ;)

Source, thats my point, if they arent going to give us a forum then we will turn the whole board into our forum!

its called spamming and its not nice.
im sure zohar already asked jan to open it,
if there are enough (and there are) forumers it will open.

^^ No its not spamming at all. I am saying we will post normal threads about Lebanon as if it were our own board. Im just upset because our entire country is under construction and being rebuilt and we cant post about it in an organized sub-forum... I dont understand why Israel needs several boards, all your country is building is a giant apartheid wall!

^^ No its not spamming at all. I am saying we will post normal threads about Lebanon as if it were our own board. Im just upset because our entire country is under construction and being rebuilt and we cant post about it in an organized sub-forum... I dont understand why Israel needs several boards, all your country is building is a giant apartheid wall!

BTW Beirut, the whole Middle East is going through construction boom. Don't unders estimate what is going in Jordan, Egypt & very soon Syria. Amman for example is demolishing & rebuilding its downtown

^^ I am aware of that dont get me wrong, but Lebanon went through decades of war and then reconstruction, it is far more dramatic! Considering Lebanon's small size, I would say we have the most construction (in proportion to the entire country) out of those countries you named.

There's nothing wrong with all these Lebanon threads, atleast they are more enjoyable then all the political threads.

Sargon,

Nadini is absolutely true! I speak perfect Lebanese and I can barely understand Arabic from any Middle Eastern country! My Jordanian friend gets really pissed off every time we're in public and he doesn't want others to understand. I just don't understand it! Arabic is really butch and Lebanese arabic is extremely pleasant to the ear! It's the classy version of Arabic!

Sargon,

Nadini is absolutely true! I speak perfect Lebanese and I can barely understand Arabic from any Middle Eastern country! My Jordanian friend gets really pissed off every time we're in public and he doesn't want others to understand. I just don't understand it! Arabic is really butch and Lebanese arabic is extremely pleasant to the ear! It's the classy version of Arabic!

Whatever, as long as it makes you and Nadini happy. No matter whay you say. I believe that Lebanese has Arabic words more than many Arabic dialects, specially the African ones. I am Canadian Iraqi with a Lebanese mother. I have lived in Lebanon for 7 years and I do not see that such French influence is existing in southern Lebanon, Saida, Tripoli, Akkar and many other places.. So, please stop promoting LBC as the standard of Lebanon. Have you been to Nabatea or El Khyam?? How about Kfar Shouba?? Do they all Say: Hi Keeefeeek Sava?? Ba3daina, Kamaina, Halla2niyye :)

^^ No its not spamming at all. I am saying we will post normal threads about Lebanon as if it were our own board. Im just upset because our entire country is under construction and being rebuilt and we cant post about it in an organized sub-forum... I dont understand why Israel needs several boards, all your country is building is a giant apartheid wall!

If you want it to be politics-free, you should stop lies that create provocation. and we have more tower construction than most of the countries around us.

just netanya:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=301276

as for the apartheid - not even worth an answer, we should do whatever it takes to stop barbarian arab terrorism. I also dont like the wall, it separates part of our land. I say just demolish every village that produces a terrorist, but they dont listen..

Whatever, as long as it makes you and Nadini happy. No matter whay you say. I believe that Lebanese has Arabic words more than many Arabic dialects, specially the African ones. I am Canadian Iraqi with a Lebanese mother. I have lived in Lebanon for 7 years and I do not see that such French influence is existing in southern Lebanon, Saida, Tripoli, Akkar and many other places.. So, please stop promoting LBC as the standard of Lebanon. Have you been to Nabatea or El Khyam?? How about Kfar Shouba?? Do they all Say: Hi Keeefeeek Sava?? Ba3daina, Kamaina, Halla2niyye :)

Stop it Sargon... They just want to draw attention and be distinguished "as usual"

Virtual, morrocan is very different then arabic is it not? Well I don't understand it, I catch a few words here and there and I speak both Arabic and Lebanese, maybe it's the accent :)


I don't know, since I don't understand a word...lol, but moroccan people told me that they spoke arabic and berber languages as well, but I've never heard them talk about speaking "moroccan"

If you want it to be politics-free, you should stop lies that create provocation. and we have more tower construction than most of the countries around us.

just netanya:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=301276

as for the apartheid - not even worth an answer, we should do whatever it takes to stop barbarian arab terrorism. I also dont like the wall, it separates part of our land. I say just demolish every village that produces a terrorist, but they dont listen..

Listen, dont get me wrong, I like Israel and I wish I could visit one day. I just dont like Zionists who want to take over my land by any means necessary (such as how you want - demolishing every Palestinian village). I dont care much for Palestinians and I am not here to defend them. My point is just that if Isreal gets a few forums, Lebanon should at least get one. I am getting tired of the arrogant Israeli attitude ("it separates part of our land" - are you kidding??? it cuts into the West Bank and steals MORE Pali land!) that likes putting down its neighbors like we are scum. If you respect us then we will respect you.

Youre welcome Pali, are you from Lebanon or do you live in Palestine?
I am from Palestine, but currently i live in Canada, i visit Palestine every summer.
BTW i have been to Beirut in 2003 and it was GGGGGREAt, i really love that city, also i have been Jounieh b/c i have so many friends from there. and i live in a city that has more than 40 thousand lebanese.

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Sargon, I completely agree with you 120% with what u are saying, I am just answering a question that dubliner asked earlier. If you were only taught the Lebanese slang, you won't be able to understadn arabic, although u will catch a few words here and there. I am not disagreeing with you. You're absolutely right, if dubliner asked whether a Jordanian would be able to understand arabic, I would tell him the exact same thing I said about the Lebanese issue. If he was only taught Jordanian Slang, he won't understand the arabic (classical that is). That's all, and yes I agree with you, Lebanese has more arabic words then african countries like moroccan, because perhaps they (morrocan) were influence from the african speaking nations (I don't really know anything about the morrocan language).

Okay, in an attempt to get this thread back on topic:

I counted 9 cranes...

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/rhmud/Lebanon/269606567ubNJVL_ph.jpg


I know this isnt a very recent pic, but I really like it for some reason

Port of Beirut and Achrafiyeh district of Beirut:

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/rhmud/Lebanon/515181132pcVpcG_ph.jpg

Yeah Beirut!, you're right the picture with a whole bunch of cranes is cool. I like it to it shows that Beirut is building :)

Does anyone know, what are the prices in Achrafiyeh, I mean not in a luxury building, but in a new pleasant one? 10nx in advance