What have we done wrong so that we get all this?? These people should be taught how to be thankfull:
http://media.www.cornellsun.com/media/storage/paper866/news/2006/04/21/Opinion/Cornell.Qatar.And.Hamas-1864615.shtml?sourcedomain=www.cornellsun.com&MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com

Dave my friend, this article is not full of hatred. This article is full of bad journalism. I am in university now and I studied bad journalism. I can point out a billions illogical fallicies with his reasonings. For example, "the latest freedom poll" is one. What is the hell is the latest freedom poll. Care to site the source?

Second of all, Article 64 of the Qatari consitution (which was approved by the vast majority of Qataris) states that "The Emir is the head of State. His person shall be inviolable and he must be respected by all." Therefore, this person did indeed violate the constitution.

Third of all, the author linked the suicide bombings with Qatar's funding of Hamas. Clearly, Qatar did not fund Hamas so that hit it will in effect sponsor suicide bombings. No other country (western) funds the P.A. so Qatar wants to advert a humanitarian crisis by funding the newly elected governemtn (which by the way were elected by US and EU supervised elections trhought Israel and Palestine)..

Just my 2 cents or 2 dirhams. ;)

^^... Yup, I agree with Halawala. It really sounds like "bad journalism".
That guy is definately a newbie, biased and full of BS! :bash:

it is the same with Africa which is portrayed to be a continent full of misery, Aids, war, genocide and so on and so forth for the next 500 years to come. Western media are full of stereotypes, they reduce the world´s complexeties by painting black and white images: Asian are all intelligent and industrious, Africans are all lazy and smelly, Arabs are all brutal terrorists and South Americans are all perilous drugdealers! That is their view on the world wrapped "sweeter" words, of course!
These journalist should be thrown into prison for writing such one-sided and bad articles.

Forget it.

Its not like his article gonna change anything.

and

Qatar and Iran stand is applauded. :)

These journalist should be thrown into prison for writing such one-sided and bad articles.[/QUOTE]

^^ you've been too harsh, don't you think, throwing journalists in prison? writing an article that reflects someone's personal opinion is called "freedom of expression", either we like what he said or not.

throwing journalists in prison is a way of intemidation that only dictatorships resort to, not civilized nations.

but i have to admit that some parts of the articles are true. qatar is not a heaven for pure & true democracy, and our controlled media aren't preciesly BBC or The Times.

by the way, the danish cartoons ARE way out of freedom of expression. they're merely an insult to feelings of millions of believers, and that a total different story.

:lol:

Guys calm down the article says the writer is a student of Arts at Cornell University..

Who gives a shit about what he has to say?? He is a student of General Arts one of the easiest programs to get into in North America... Heck he probably is dumber than some highschool students..

Ignore him, he is probably also influenced by his ethnic opinions on Arabs. Not realizing the kind of open and progressive society Qatar has become.

What can I say? These dingbats are full of Sh-t like you guys said. I really hate these biased freaks. They irritate me when I see people like that at school. So narrow minded it makes you sick. And at the end, you only get to say kiss my Arab a-.

any talk of "humanitarian" crisis is just propaganda by hammas to get money for terror, for example, the P.A refused Israel's request to open one of the passage points of goods into gaza for political reasons.
Of course nobody is even asking howcome Egypt is out of the picture when it comes to transport of goods into gaza, when there is a scapegoat to blame.
also nobody is asking how 1.5 million people think they can support themselves forever on terrorism and donations, and continue a 4% birthrate based on the fact they will get a free life by donations and free water and electricity from israel.

its a shame countries support terror by calling it humanitarian aid.
when you send humanitarian aid you send food, electric goods or clothes, you dont send money to families of suicide bombers and shipments of bullets and rockets.

i think you guys should calm down. this is an article that appeared in the 'opinion' column/section. anyone can send in opinions to newspapers. this does not represent the views of the majority of people at cornell...

it sounds to me like this person...who appears to be jewish (don't know if that has anything to do with it...i don't want to jump to conclusions) isn't happy with cornell's decision to open a school in qatar.....maybe she'd be happy if they opened it in israel....you know...that country where they treat people so well...specially people who find out about their secret nuclear program..

any talk of "humanitarian" crisis is just propaganda by hammas to get money for terror, for example, the P.A refused Israel's request to open one of the passage points of goods into gaza for political reasons.
Of course nobody is even asking howcome Egypt is out of the picture when it comes to transport of goods into gaza, when there is a scapegoat to blame.
also nobody is asking how 1.5 million people think they can support themselves forever on terrorism and donations, and continue a 4% birthrate based on the fact they will get a free life by donations and free water and electricity from israel.

its a shame countries support terror by calling it humanitarian aid.
when you send humanitarian aid you send food, electric goods or clothes, you dont send money to families of suicide bombers and shipments of bullets and rockets.


You might think Hamas is a terrorist organisation, but Arabs believe that they legimetly won the elections. Dont get me started into how miserable the Palestineans live in their occupied lands. I don't want this to turn into an Arab vs Israel conflict, but the bottom of the line--Arab support Palestinean Authority from the begining and to the end.

I agree that the PA sometimes illegally uses the money for unhumanitarian purposes, but Palestineans are indeed living in a crisis because of Israel's ongoing occupation.

You might think Hamas is a terrorist organisation, but Arabs believe that they legimetly won the elections. Dont get me started into how miserable the Palestineans live in their occupied lands. I don't want this to turn into an Arab vs Israel conflict, but the bottom of the line--Arab support Palestinean Authority from the begining and to the end.

I agree that the PA sometimes illegally uses the money for unhumanitarian purposes, but Palestineans are indeed living in a crisis because of Israel's ongoing occupation.


I agree on this one.

palestinians are living in an ongoing crisis because they resist peace and vote for terrorism. like they supported saddam hussein when he attacked kuwait, like they supported bin laden in 9/11 dancing in gaza, like they supported zarkawi bombing iraq and jordan.

just angles, what can you say. pure little angles blowing up to spread metal bullets into civilians.

gaza has a border with egypt, they can go cry there now, we finished babysitting gaza and we arent to blame that egypt doesnt want to hear of them as well, they dont need this trouble either.
maybe instead of importing al quaida terrorists they can think of tourists, but it doesnt go together.

ps. if they dont want to be occupied, the should get out of our lands.

ps. if they dont want to be occupied, the should get out of our lands.
He already told you he doesn't want this talk...
So... Don't start it!

palestinians are living in an ongoing crisis because they resist peace and vote for terrorism. like they supported saddam hussein when he attacked kuwait, like they supported bin laden in 9/11 dancing in gaza, like they supported zarkawi bombing iraq and jordan.

just angles, what can you say. pure little angles blowing up to spread metal bullets into civilians.

gaza has a border with egypt, they can go cry there now, we finished babysitting gaza and we arent to blame that egypt doesnt want to hear of them as well, they dont need this trouble either.
maybe instead of importing al quaida terrorists they can think of tourists, but it doesnt go together.

ps. if they dont want to be occupied, the should get out of our lands.

Go complain somewhere else... I don't want this thread to get locked.

7ababi halawala ignore Source. There are ppl in this world who love to debate and discuss objectively using facts and logic. These ppl are both good listeners and ppl listen to them when they talk. Then there are the others. They are opinionated, emtionals motivated, and are very narrow minded. No matter what you tell them, they reject everything they say and come back to square one. They selectively choose facts which agree with their point of view.. i.e. Source ! Ignore him.

Although I believe $50 M is a lot of money and it should monitered carefully to assure it is spent where it is needed, nevertheless I stand proud with my Country's dicision.

For those arab haters who call us treaters and back stabbers, let me see your countries donating money. For others who say we support terrorists by donating this amount of money.. go to hell, our money our business.. bycott our oil and gas for all I care.

7ababi halawala ignore Source. There are ppl in this world who love to debate and discuss objectively using facts and logic. These ppl are both good listeners and ppl listen to them when they talk. Then there are the others. They are opinionated, emtionals motivated, and are very narrow minded. No matter what you tell them, they reject everything they say and come back to square one. They selectively choose facts which agree with their point of view.. i.e. Source ! Ignore him.

Although I believe $50 M is a lot of money and it should monitered carefully to assure it is spent where it is needed, nevertheless I stand proud with my Country's dicision.

For those arab haters who call us treaters and back stabbers, let me see your countries donating money. For others who say we support terrorists by donating this amount of money.. go to hell, our money our business.. bycott our oil and gas for all I care.


True, so true.

You guys. Source is right on that one. I agree that they are in need of the money, but after all they are not going to use it properly. Instead it will go to the hands of the corrupted people. They really should keep an eye on them and the way they use it. There are poor people that don't have money to eat

You guys. Source is right on that one. I agree that they are in need of the money, but after all they are not going to use it properly. Instead it will go to the hands of the corrupted people. They really should keep an eye on them and the way they use it. There are poor people that don't have money to eat

Hamas corrupted more than Fatah

Doubted it.

ya shabab ya 3iyal qatar calm down change the subject.

No noe is changing the subject. And I agree, I don't trust Hamas any more than I trust Fatah or any other Palistinian political group. I think the Red Cresent and other aid organizations should moniter, acctually manage, how the $50M money is to be spent.

However this $50M isn't really aid money as much as it is money to pay all the gov't employees in the Pali gov't. Since Israel blocked all banks from giving Hamas led gov't its tax revenue to pay gov't employees, Qatar and Iran stepped in to pick up the tab.

Hi guys this is my first time on the Qatari Forum....

I don´t really take seriously what this guy says... who know who the hell is it. U know I have been living in Qatar, and though i don´t believe is a democracy, i don´t think HH Al Thani is a Dictator, but though, is the Emir.... so is the way the republic is founded. I also believe many changes had been done over there for good.

Cheers!

Who was it that decided democracy is the best system of rule ??

I mean democracy isn't really working in Iraq, Palis had a free election and the West got Hamas in office. Maybe having a King or Emir isn't that bad. I mean it is working for us.

When ppl say dictator, ppl have this image in their head of political prisoners, public executations, poverty !! How many failed "democratic" states are out there ?

Democracy, the majority of times, is the best way to go.. but not all the time.

Who was it that decided democracy is the best system of rule ??

I mean democracy isn't really working in Iraq, Palis had a free election and the West got Hamas in office. Maybe having a King or Emir isn't that bad. I mean it is working for us.

When ppl say dictator, ppl have this image in their head of political prisoners, public executations, poverty !! How many failed "democratic" states are out there ?

Democracy, the majority of times, is the best way to go.. but not all the time.

Qatar is on its way to become more democratic. It was the first country to host free elections for men and women (1998). It will also allow parliamentary elections next year for the first time ever. Who knows, maybe perhaps we will see a prime minister election in the future? Qataris number only 200,000 citizens. Is full-fledged democracy really the solution here in Qatar? No, its not.

Qatar is an abolute monarchy, but the monarch is loved and respected by the people, and thus approved by the Qatari people in general.

Personally, I believe some countries are suited for democracies, while others are not. Arabian Gulf States are not--for reasons too detailed to outline. America is, Iraq-- defently no! ect. ect....

I agree with u guys.Democracy sucks and it would be of no use to the gulf states.

Hi guys this is my first time on the Qatari Forum....

I don´t really take seriously what this guy says... who know who the hell is it. U know I have been living in Qatar, and though i don´t believe is a democracy, i don´t think HH Al Thani is a Dictator, but though, is the Emir.... so is the way the republic is founded. I also believe many changes had been done over there for good.

Cheers!

the current Qatar emir dethroned his father while he was abroad a few years ago. many attribute him to the fast paced development Qatar has witnessed in the past few years. So in this case he has done alot of good for the country. But im not too sure on how the majority of Qataris feel regarding the system of governing.

I really have no problem. However if I were to ever be taxed then Id have some serious issues and Id want a whole lot of questions to be answered.

I certainly do not think that Cornell University deserves to be criticized for it's linkls to the Qatar government.The Qatar government is one of the most progressive in the Middle East.That being said, I think all governments should be wary of dealing with the Hamas government.

But I must agree the article in question is full of dubious - standard journalism

My advice to all Qatari citizens who disagree with this article is to write back to the newspaper with email and try to let the Qatari side of the story be told -

1) Make the point that the Qataris are suporting the palestinians's due to the latter's terrible economic situation and not out of endorsement of Hamas's extreme tactics.
2 ) Emphasize that Qatar is a pro-western ally and has modern thriving economy and an active democratization process - mention the recent elections and the role of Qatar women in society.
3 ) Mention the fact that the overwhelming proportion of Qataris support their government and love their emir.
4 ) Mention that the links between the Qatari government and the University in question are necessary and welcome in order to foster understanding between the US and the Arab world.Of course the two sides may have differences but dialogue is of paramount importance.

I think it likely that the letter(s) of Qataris would be taken seriously and have an excellent chance of being published.

Go Qatar and long live free speech !

You guys politics doesnt work like that. The guy has a right to say what he wants since it is in the opinion forum. Granted, all of his info is biased, infactual, and plain out wrong, he still has a right to say it.

The fact of the matter is, Qatar is a western ally, and what it does with its own money will not change the relations between Qatar and the West.

This artilce has ZERO percent impact on the political scale. Not even one ounce of impact on University City or Cornell's campus in Qatar.

So, I say just IGNORE the letter and move on with your life.

noooooo, wrong. You know how did I come accross it!! not through Cornell, like hell now, I wouldn't read each and every paper out there. It was posted on Google News

Its history. Lets move on ppl.

Who was it that decided democracy is the best system of rule ??

I mean democracy isn't really working in Iraq, Palis had a free election and the West got Hamas in office. Maybe having a King or Emir isn't that bad. I mean it is working for us.

Democracy, the majority of times, is the best way to go.. but not all the time.I guess you're right, democracy won't work in those nations. Democracy wouldn't even work in Egypt or Jordan. Polls show that Jordanians actually support (Islamofascist) terrorism even more so than countries like Egypt. Luckily, the Hashemite Kings are ruling Jordan though.

It's more likely that (in the long run) democracy would work in Iran, Lebanon and Iraq than in Jordan, Egypt or "Palestine" for example.

Im kinda glad that Saudi arabia doesnt have a democracy because the saudies look more fundemental than the al saud familly (i saw a documentary in which you see how the saudi familly really is and its extreemly eye opening)

Ozcan, sorry but u dont know what ur talking about.

The Saudi Royal family has over 100 000 people! You cant generalize all of them. Its impossible. Saudi Arabia is not fit for a democracy. Kinda off topic though.. errr

What the hell is "(Islamofascist) terrorism"?!!

a new invenstion by Ozcan? :dunno: :D

Guys, please don't react in a childish manner (if you can't prove me wrong). You are entitled to disagree, but you'd better come up with some counter arguments instead. BTW, just try and type "Islamofascist terrorism" in google and you will see that it's actually widely used (page after page you will see that it's popping up)

Guys, please don't react in a childish manner (if you can't prove me wrong). You are entitled to disagree, but you'd better come up with some counter arguments instead. BTW, just try and type "Islamofascist terrorism" in google and you will see that it's actually widely used (page after page you will see that it's popping up)

They arent childish. They are just asking what it is--that's all. We are normal people not scientists. hehe

I really have never heard of that term before...
I was truely shocked when I saw all the results on google!

I really dont have much to add. Just thought Id make myself present. I can be shallow at times.. i know!

I really dont have much to add. Just thought Id make myself present. I can be shallow at times.. i know!


7ayak Allah! :)

Islamofascist terrorism!! how do they get to come up with all these weird terms???

do you want to hear a real hatred? listen to this story. after the explosion in Doha Players theater, in march '05, where a british citizen died, my cousin decided to preform 3omrah with his wife.

he says that from the moment he arrived at the airport till his departure, and when people knew he's a qatari, they keept asking him with a sarcastic smile "so, only one died in the explosion? too bad"!

now that's, my friend, is the true hatred, not a simple article in a newspaper.

do you want to hear a real hatred? listen to this story. after the explosion in Doha Players theater, in march '05, where a british citizen died, my cousin decided to preform 3omrah with his wife.

he says that from the moment he arrived at the airport till his departure, and when people knew he's a qatari, they keept asking him with a sarcastic smile "so, only one died in the explosion? too bad"!

now that's, my friend, is the true hatred, not a simple article in a newspaper.

An Explosion happened? How and why did it happen ?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/arabic/news/newsid_4365000/4365405.stm

do you want to hear a real hatred? listen to this story. after the explosion in Doha Players theater, in march '05, where a british citizen died, my cousin decided to preform 3omrah with his wife.

he says that from the moment he arrived at the airport till his departure, and when people knew he's a qatari, they keept asking him with a sarcastic smile "so, only one died in the explosion? too bad"!

now that's, my friend, is the true hatred, not a simple article in a newspaper.
who asked him these questions? Was it in the kingdom of ahem ahem?

no, he was preforming 3omrah in paris!!
of course he was in the kingdom of ahem ahem >(

lol wana agool ay 3omrah thy b3d illy fe paris,, i wanna go !!

hehe.. 3addy shabab, I go to visit my family in bahrain a lot and I always use to drive. Now none of my family members or me drive to bahrain anymore because we just cant handle it anymore. We are treated so badly by every boarder crossing officer and every check point we pass. I hate it. Just feel like hitting them in the back of the head and tell them to grow up !!

How rude of them

no wonder nobody likes them