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Shezan
December 12th, 2007, 03:01 AM
where is Rome on that list ???

Minato ku
December 12th, 2007, 05:49 AM
the Paris station has 213 platforms??????????????


Or is that total of all stations??

Of course there is no Paris station with 213 platforms, like there is no London station and no Tokyo station :okay:
It is the total for all railway terminals over 10 platforms (Bercy is not include). :)

Nord
Saint Lazare
Est
Montparnasse
Austerlitz
Lyon

TRZ
December 12th, 2007, 03:38 PM
Union Station in Toronto is not a terminal!

Then neither is Shinjuku.

TRZ
December 12th, 2007, 03:41 PM
Yes, but it's a through station - for a lot of trains it's not the last stop on the line.

Most trains of GO Transit, by far the largest user, does terminate most of its trains there. Only Lakeshore trains (which, East and West, make up 2 of its 7 lines) run through service, and the odd exception where a Lakeshore train turns into another line like Stouffville or Bradford (it does happen, but only a couple times a day max).

Shinjuku sees WAAAAAAY more through-trains than Union, as a PERCENTAGE of service, and its on the list. I call foul, BIG TIME.

Yardmaster
December 19th, 2007, 03:01 PM
Good to see this thread alive again.

Here are the tables I last posted:

Largest Stations:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/transport/tables/term1a.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/transport/tables/term1b.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/transport/tables/term1c.jpg

Some City totals:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/transport/tables/paris-lon-tokyo.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/transport/tables/milan-ny-moscow.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/transport/tables/osk-mdr-chg.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/transport/tables/greatertokyo.jpg

Bitxofo
December 19th, 2007, 04:50 PM
^^Barcelona nowadays, 28 tracks:
-SANTS station: 14 tracks.
-FRANÇA station: 14 tracks.
:yes:
In 2009, 48 tracks, with the new one:
-SAGRERA station 20 tracks.
;)

Yardmaster
December 19th, 2007, 04:57 PM
^^Barcelona nowadays, 28 tracks:
-SANTS station: 14 tracks.
-FRANÇA station: 14 tracks.
:yes:
In 2009, 48 tracks, with the new one:
-SAGRERA station 20 tracks.
;)

Tracks, or platforms? A platform if somewhere you would normally step from to board a train ... or step off to get off one. Will Sagrera supplant existing stations/platforms?

Bitxofo
December 19th, 2007, 05:05 PM
Tracks, or platforms? A platform if somewhere you would normally step from to board a train ... or step off to get off one. Will Sagrera supplant existing stations/platforms?
Tracks. In Spain, normally, 1 platform serves 2 tracks.
:yes:
Barcelona Sagrera station is not going to supplant any existing station.
;)

Yardmaster
December 19th, 2007, 05:47 PM
Tracks. In Spain, normally, 1 platform serves 2 tracks.
:yes:


Your comment may throw some light on issues in this thread. Are you saying, that an area of pavement I could walk about with a track on either side would be called a single "platform" in Spain ? This is not the case here: note the numbering of the "platforms" below:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/SouthernX/completed/sthx_5195m.jpg

Up front, "6" means you board on the left, "5" on the right. To us this is two platforms, not one.

Here's another view of the same station (Southern Cross, Melbourne):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/SouthernX/completed/sthx_5193m.jpg

There are additional tracks between the tracks at which passengers board to enable locomotives to detach from the front of the train, run round to the rear, and take the train out again (the trains in the photos don't require these operations).

So tell me ... looking at these photos (and noting the signage).. is a Catalonian Platform the same thing as an Australian one, or not?

Justme
December 20th, 2007, 12:02 AM
Year, it does get confusing. Many Europeans seem to define platforms as "tracks". Although I don't understand why Bitxofo mentioned 1 platform equals 2 tracks, as even in Spain I have seen separate numbers for each side of the single "platform", which indicates it as 2 platforms (though sharing the same physical "island")

Salif
December 20th, 2007, 01:23 AM
I have just come back from Paris and saw a track plan in le gare de nord.

It's tracks are numbered from 2-21 and 30-44.

So it actually has 35 tracks.

Justme
December 20th, 2007, 01:40 AM
^^ Interesting. I thought it was like this:

Platforms 1 and 2: Service platforms, not open to the public.
Platforms 3 to 6: Terminus of the London Eurostar via the Channel Tunnel.
Platforms 7 and 8: Thalys platforms for Belgium, the Netherlands, and Germany.
Platforms 9 to 29: TGV North, Main Line trains, then the Picard TER
Platforms 30 to 40: Suburban station
In the basement, platforms 41 to 44: RER station
Paris Metro, further 4 platforms.

Maybe I'm wrong.

Bitxofo
December 20th, 2007, 03:18 AM
Year, it does get confusing. Many Europeans seem to define platforms as "tracks". Although I don't understand why Bitxofo mentioned 1 platform equals 2 tracks, as even in Spain I have seen separate numbers for each side of the single "platform", which indicates it as 2 platforms (though sharing the same physical "island")
Yes, you are right.
:okay:
Anyway, I did not say "1 platform equals 2 tracks". I meant that one "phisical island" serves 2 tracks. Exactly the same as seen in the photos of Melbourne station.
;)
In this case, in Spain, we can say 1 track means 1 platform.
:yes:

Justme
December 20th, 2007, 05:02 AM
^^ Thanks :cheers:

TRZ
December 20th, 2007, 09:40 AM
Good to see this thread alive again.

Here are the tables I last posted:

Largest Stations:


I still say Toronto Union Station is supposed to be on there since stations like Shinjuku (whose vast majority of services are through-service) make the cut. Toronto Union has 13 serviceable tracks (16 including unserviceable) plus 2 subway tracks for a total of 15 (excludes LRT loop).

NorthStar77
December 20th, 2007, 01:49 PM
It has been mentioned before, but I'll repeat; Oslo central has 2 subway-platforms connected to it, therefore the total for Oslo central: 19 + 2 = 21

Salif
December 20th, 2007, 05:13 PM
^^ Interesting. I thought it was like this:

Platforms 1 and 2: Service platforms, not open to the public.
Platforms 3 to 6: Terminus of the London Eurostar via the Channel Tunnel.
Platforms 7 and 8: Thalys platforms for Belgium, the Netherlands, and Germany.
Platforms 9 to 29: TGV North, Main Line trains, then the Picard TER
Platforms 30 to 40: Suburban station
In the basement, platforms 41 to 44: RER station
Paris Metro, further 4 platforms.

Maybe I'm wrong.

That is what I read on wikipedia, can only presume the author has not seen the track plan.

I'm not sure why there is such a fragmented track numbering system but maybe it's to clarify where service type is segregated? (i.e. TGV/suburban)

So seemingly it goes like this:

2: Service platform
3-6: Eurostar platforms
7-8: Thalys platforms
9-21: TGV, Corail and TER Picard platforms
30-40: Transilien Regional & Suburban platforms
41-44: RER platforms

Infact that seems to work quite well, the biggest numbering gap accounts for the space between mainline and local platforms.

elfabyanos
December 20th, 2007, 07:44 PM
Re the tables previously posted - The one thing that strikes me is counting Charing Cross and Embankment as the same station is really misleading. They are separate stations - indeed two tube lines have stations at both Charing Cross and Embankment. The counting in the table above counts two platforms on each of the 2 tube lines, aswell as two platforms on each of the same 2 tube lines at another station further up the line.

gincan
December 21st, 2007, 05:24 PM
Tracks. In Spain, normally, 1 platform serves 2 tracks.
:yes:
Barcelona Sagrera station is not going to supplant any existing station.
;)

Well after Sants was expanded in 82 the traffic diminished from Franca up to a point when they started to close down several tracks. I might be wrong but I think I've read that they were discussing alternative use for the building.

When Sagrera is built Renfe will probably dump Franca cause it is to large and to expensive to maintain for a relative small number of users and beside it is a sack station, all trainoperators hate them.

Bitxofo
December 21st, 2007, 08:00 PM
Today I took some pictures in França station, I try to post them later.
;)

Minato ku
December 21st, 2007, 08:14 PM
That is what I read on wikipedia, can only presume the author has not seen the track plan.

I'm not sure why there is such a fragmented track numbering system but maybe it's to clarify where service type is segregated? (i.e. TGV/suburban)

So seemingly it goes like this:

2: Service platform
3-6: Eurostar platforms
7-8: Thalys platforms
9-21: TGV, Corail and TER Picard platforms
30-40: Transilien Regional & Suburban platforms
41-44: RER B and D platforms

Infact that seems to work quite well, the biggest numbering gap accounts for the space between mainline and local platforms.

Don't forget

RER E : 4 platforms
Paris metro : 6 platforms

Total : 45 platforms for Gare du Nord, Yes previous number was overestimated.

Salif
December 21st, 2007, 08:37 PM
Don't forget

RER E : 4 platforms
Paris metro : 6 platforms

Total : 45 platforms for Gare du Nord, Yes previous number was overestimated.

Are the RER E platforms not classed as a different station (Magenta)?

When the connecting hall is built between Nord and Est will they all be labelled as one station perhaps?

One big 75 track station (not including metro tracks).

Does the list include or exclude metro tracks?

Btw Gare du Lyon definitley has 26 tracks (22 surface, 4 RER) - not sure on Metro tracks though.

Bitxofo
December 21st, 2007, 08:49 PM
Well after Sants was expanded in 82 the traffic diminished from Franca up to a point when they started to close down several tracks. I might be wrong but I think I've read that they were discussing alternative use for the building.

When Sagrera is built Renfe will probably dump Franca cause it is to large and to expensive to maintain for a relative small number of users and beside it is a sack station, all trainoperators hate them.
ADiF, the owner of França station not RENFE, is going to keep França station open because it will be necessary for other rail companies after the liberalization of railways in Europe.
:yes:
And Sagrera station was expected for 2009, but there is a delay in the works...
:dunno:

Minato ku
December 21st, 2007, 09:20 PM
Are the RER E platforms not classed as a different station (Magenta)?

When the connecting hall is built between Nord and Est will they all be labelled as one station perhaps?

One big 75 track station (not including metro tracks).

Does the list include or exclude metro tracks?

Btw Gare du Lyon definitley has 26 tracks (22 surface, 4 RER) - not sure on Metro tracks though.

These have not the same name but it is the same station, and serve as the same station. the RER E station is just not in the same place than the RER B and D station under gare du Nord.

I see a little error for Gare de Lyon
Gare de Lyon has 6 RER tracks.
4 for SNCF RER D and 2 for RATP RER A,

I am in this thread since its opening and this list include subway tracks. :)

Exemple here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=11052284&postcount=287)

Salif
December 21st, 2007, 09:41 PM
I see a little error for Gare de Lyon
Gare de Lyon has 6 RER tracks.
4 for SNCF RER D and 2 for RATP RER A,


Are you definitley sure about that?

Sure I remember it being four the other day but I wasn't really looking properly (I know Chatelet les Halles has six RER tracks).

But if you're correct that's an extra four tracks need adding (line 1 Metro also).

Minato ku
December 21st, 2007, 10:56 PM
Yes I sure before be connected at Chatelet les Halles, the RER D station of Gare de Lyon (at this time it was not called RER D) was a suburban terminal underground station 4 tracks (build over the RER A station at the same time)

The 27 June 1988 this station had the worst train accident in France of the end of the 20th century
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gare_de_Lyon_train_accident
In 1995 a tunnel between this station and Chatelet opened, it is the birth of the RER D.


La gare de Lyon est desservie par deux lignes de RER (A et D), dans une gare souterraine située sous la rue de Bercy, contre la gare principale.

La gare RER comprend deux halles superposées, le D se trouvant au-dessus du A :

Le A dessert notamment La Défense et les villes nouvelles de Marne-la-Vallée et Cergy-Pontoise ; il y a un très large quai central encadré des deux voies ;
Le D relie directement (à 2 stations) la gare du Nord ; elle dessert notamment le Stade de France au nord et les villes nouvelles d'Évry et de Sénart au sud ; la station comporte quatre voies encadrant deux quais centraux ; elle fut le site de l'accident du 27 juin 1988.

Justme
December 21st, 2007, 11:33 PM
Well after Sants was expanded in 82 the traffic diminished from Franca up to a point when they started to close down several tracks. I might be wrong but I think I've read that they were discussing alternative use for the building.

When Sagrera is built Renfe will probably dump Franca cause it is to large and to expensive to maintain for a relative small number of users and beside it is a sack station, all trainoperators hate them.

I really hope Franca stays open as it is easily the most beautiful station in Barcelona, and one of the most beautiful in Spain. They already moved the trains out of that other beautiful old station (near the Grand Arch that looks like a small version of Atocha) and what is it now, a bus stop or something? Is the inside even open to the public?

Bitxofo
December 22nd, 2007, 04:15 AM
^^You are talking about Barcelona Nord station, it was completely refurbished in 1993 and now it is the main bus terminal station in Barcelona.
;)
Its interior is open to the public.
:yes:

gincan
December 23rd, 2007, 02:34 PM
I really hope Franca stays open as it is easily the most beautiful station in Barcelona, and one of the most beautiful in Spain. They already moved the trains out of that other beautiful old station (near the Grand Arch that looks like a small version of Atocha) and what is it now, a bus stop or something? Is the inside even open to the public?

the Barcelona Nord station was disused since 1972 and subject to demolition (or so I'v read) before Barcelona was awarded the 1992 Olympics, it was then decided that it was to be refurbished into a sportscenter.

During the Olympics the tabletennis matches were played there, the facility includes various playfields for handball, basket, rollerhockey, badminton and tabletennis. There are also a gym, relax and physical therapy. The superstructure is still the same as when it was used as a trainstation but the interiors are completely changed. The part that is used for the busstation preserved some elements of the old station interiors.

gincan
December 23rd, 2007, 02:56 PM
ADiF, the owner of França station not RENFE, is going to keep França station open because it will be necessary for other rail companies after the liberalization of railways in Europe.
:yes:
And Sagrera station was expected for 2009, but there is a delay in the works...
:dunno:

I hope so but the fact remains that the station is large and expensive to maintain, when the Sants opened after the expansion it took away most of the passengers from Franca and When Sagrera opens it will take the rest. I can't see a reason to keep the station, it lacks connection with the commuter network (line 10 only serves the airport) and also the subwaystation lacks a connection forcing you out of the station, the location also means you can't turn it into a transport hub.

The Sagrera on the other hand will serve and be the prefered Station by basically everyone in Northern Barcelona as it will have excellent connection with all the surrounding neighborhoods, even the ones living in Sant Martí district close to Franca will probably choose Sagrera. So passenger figures will be so low at Franca that it won't justify keeping it open, as it happened to Estacio de Nord in the 1960s. My bet is that trains won't run into Franca 5-10 years after Sagrera is finnished. The building will of cause be preserved but used for some other purpose.

Lake
December 27th, 2007, 11:12 AM
Some information about Zurich.

If you count the tracks of the stations which are served by intercitytrains (which "Passenger Rail Terminals" is referncing to) the statistics are wrong becaus the Stations Altstetten (? passengers/day), Oerlikon (110'000 passengers/day) and Enge (? passengers/day), , which are all served by intercitytrains are not counted in the total of tracks

This would be corrected
26 (Hauptbahnhof / Mainstation) + 2 (Enge) + 6 (Oerlikon) + 5 (Altstetten) = 39

and in the near future (according to expansionplans) it will be 43 tracks

glickel
December 27th, 2007, 04:20 PM
Great thread. I love the Paris terminals. And I think the Magenta shouldn't count for Gare du Nord. The RER E are former suburban trains that terminated at the Gare de l'Est trains, so on that principle I think it shouldn't count and it is a different name.

This may have already been brought up, but Boston has two terminal stations, is it an oversight that it has not been included on the list?

South Station: 13 tracks (will expand whenever the main post office next door moves) + 2 subway tracks + 2 bus underground tramway "tracks" (this doesn't really count, but some day it might be light rail tracks)

North Station: 10-12 tracks (not sure if all 12 are open now that the Big Dig is finished) + 4 subway tracks

So by my count that is at least 23 tracks + 6 subway tracks for Boston

Fun fact: In my research, I found an article on South Station in Boston being busier that Grand Central...in 1913

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9F06E6D6113BE633A25752C2A96F9C946296D6CF&oref=slogin

Yardmaster
March 2nd, 2008, 06:27 PM
^^ thanks for the last posting ...

we agreed not to include stations with less than 10 "platforms". Perhaps there are difficulties here, since in various parts of the world what constitutes a "platform" varies.

Elsewhere on this site I have noted Beijing, Shanghai and Teinstin erecting huge stations which deserve mention here. Obviously we'd like to see them actually in operation before they're included!

earthJoker
March 3rd, 2008, 08:21 AM
and in the near future (according to expansionplans) it will be 43 tracks
Where are this 4 tracks going to be?

Küsel
March 4th, 2008, 12:21 PM
Maybe he means Löwenstrasse and after the Durchmesserlinie. But that's not quite fair to include Oerlikon, Altstetten or Stadelhofen to HB. You also don't count all Paris stations as one.

sotavento
March 5th, 2008, 09:54 AM
Portuguese main railway stations:

Porto Campanha = 17 platforms (9 thru , 6 termini , 2 metro , +1/2 tru lines w/o platforms)
Porto São bento = 10 (8 termini platforms , 2 underground metro)
Porto Contumil = 4 platforms + works
- Porto has a total of 27 passenger platforms + hundred or so metro platforms

Lisboa Oriente = 10 (8 thru , 2 underground metro) <<< main station but all trains thru
Lisboa Cais do Sodré = 8 (6 termini , 2 underground metro , +1 w/o platform)
Lisboa Santa Apolonia = 8 (6 termini , 2 underground metro , +1 w/o platform)
Lisboa Entrecampos = 8 (6 thru , 2 metro , +) <<< the REAL central station of lisboa ...
Lisboa Rossio = 7 (5 termini , 2 underground metro)
Lisboa Campolide = 6 (6 thru , actualy only 5 are "serviceable" , +depot w/ some 20 tracks)
- lisboa has a total of 17 terminal platforms (39 platforms total in stations with Lond distance train departures) but most MAIN stations have thru only (Entrecampos and Oriente) wether or not trains start/Stop from there.

Other large stations include:

Cascais = 5 (5 termini < +1 sinding w/o track , +1 track w/o platform)

Entroncamento = 11 (7 thru , 4 termini , + 7 (5+2) w/o platform + freight area + works, its a huge complex 500m x 2500m)

Coimbra = 9 (7 thru , 2 termini , +1 termini +1 thru w/o platform)

Pampilhosa = 9 (6 thru , 3 termini , + 5 w/o platform)

Figueira da Foz = 6 termini , +2 w/o platform + works

Aveiro = 7 (5 thru "broad gauge" , 2 "termini "narrow gauge")

Braga = 6 termini

+ a couple of 4 track stations all over the country ... too many to count.

Yardmaster
March 6th, 2008, 05:58 AM
^^ thanks! :)

earthJoker
March 6th, 2008, 03:39 PM
Maybe he means Löwenstrasse and after the Durchmesserlinie. But that's not quite fair to include Oerlikon, Altstetten or Stadelhofen to HB. You also don't count all Paris stations as one.
But after the completition of the Löwenstrasse Station the Sihlpost Station will be dismantled so the number of tracks stays the same. The capacy will go up because dead end tracks are replaced by go throughts.

sotavento
May 16th, 2008, 04:18 AM
Portuguese main railway stations:

Porto Campanha = 17 platforms (9 thru , 6 termini , 2 metro , +1/2 tru lines w/o platforms)
Porto São bento = 10 (8 termini platforms , 2 underground metro)
Porto Contumil = 4 platforms + works
- Porto has a total of 27 passenger platforms + hundred or so metro platforms

Lisboa Oriente = 10 (8 thru , 2 underground metro) <<< main station but all trains thru
Lisboa Cais do Sodré = 8 (6 termini , 2 underground metro , +1 w/o platform)
Lisboa Santa Apolonia = 8 (6 termini , 2 underground metro , +1 w/o platform)
Lisboa Entrecampos = 8 (6 thru , 2 metro , +) <<< the REAL central station of lisboa ...
Lisboa Rossio = 7 (5 termini , 2 underground metro)
Lisboa Campolide = 6 (6 thru , actualy only 5 are "serviceable" , +depot w/ some 20 tracks)
- lisboa has a total of 17 terminal platforms (39 platforms total in stations with Lond distance train departures) but most MAIN stations have thru only (Entrecampos and Oriente) wether or not trains start/Stop from there.

Other large stations include:

Cascais = 5 (5 termini < +1 sinding w/o track , +1 track w/o platform)

Entroncamento = 11 (7 thru , 4 termini , + 7 (5+2) w/o platform + freight area + works, its a huge complex 500m x 2500m)

Coimbra = 9 (7 thru , 2 termini , +1 termini +1 thru w/o platform)

Pampilhosa = 9 (6 thru , 3 termini , + 5 w/o platform)

Figueira da Foz = 6 termini , +2 w/o platform + works

Aveiro = 7 (5 thru "broad gauge" , 2 "termini "narrow gauge")

Braga = 6 termini

+ a couple of 4 track stations all over the country ... too many to count.

^^ Oriente station will be enlarged in the near future to acomodate the High speed Trains of Lisboa-Porto and Lisboa-Madrid routes.

And by the way ... Lisboa Oriente only has some 75 million passengers anually .... :lol:

Wuppeltje
May 16th, 2008, 10:19 AM
Amsterdam Central Station is bigger than listed in the number of platforms, because almost all platforms are used on daily base are serving multiple trains at the same time. On Utrecht Central Station there is a simular situation. These are by far the biggest stations and busiest in the Netherlands, larger than Rotterdam and The Hague Central Station.

1
2a / 2b
4a / 4b
5a / 5b
7a / 7b
8a / 8b
10a / 10b
11a / 11b
13a / 13b
14a / 14b
15a / 15b

There are no platforms for 3, 6, 9 and 12 to serve the other platforms and for goods.

Yardmaster
May 16th, 2008, 12:24 PM
^^

with reference to the last posting, are 2a & 2b like this (+++) represents a railway track, (___) the edge of a platform:

+<train>+++<train>++
____________________

(2a)..............(2b)


or like this?


+<train>+++
___________

... (2a)
... (2b)
___________

+<train>+++

Wuppeltje
May 16th, 2008, 01:21 PM
Like the first one. Here a full diagram of the tracks and platforms. (===) represents a railway track, (xxx) a platform. The trains can take off in both directions.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx platform xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
15a ===<train>=== ========== ========== ===<train>=== 15b
14a ===<train>=== ========== ========== ===<train>=== 14b
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx platform xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
13a ===<train>=== ========== ========== ===<train>=== 13b
12a =========== ========== ========== ============ 12b
11a ===<train>=== ========== ========== ===<train>=== 11b
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx platform xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
10a ===<train>=== ========== ========== ===<train>=== 10b
9a =========== ========== ========== ============ 9b
8a ===<train>=== ========== ========== ===<train>=== 8b
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx platform xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
7a ===<train>=== ========== ========== ===<train>=== 7b
6a =========== ========== ========== ============ 6b
5a ===<train>=== ========== ========== ===<train>=== 5b
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx platform xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
4a ===<train>=== ========== ========== ===<train>=== 4b
3a =========== ========== ========== ============ 3b
2a ===<train>=== ========== ========== ===<train>=== 2b
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx platform xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
1 ===<train>===

gustaveau
May 16th, 2008, 02:48 PM
I still don't see Rome Termini station in the big lists. It has 29 tracks according to wikipedia, and severs about 150 million passengers yearly.

Yardmaster
May 17th, 2008, 01:32 AM
A good effort here, by Wuppettjje above, in respect to Amsterdam.

Here's an equivalent for Southern Cross Melbourne.

Some comments.

The issue raised above, was, again, the definition of a platform. From the inclusion below, you can see that platform 8 is more or less three platforms ...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/SouthernX/sx_layout-5.jpg

Arguably, in terms of the way this station operates, it has twenty platforms, and 22 when "15" & "16" are brought online ... :)

Justme
May 17th, 2008, 07:54 AM
^ It's a good point. Maybe they can be identified as showing both. e.g. Platforms: 16 (22split) ?? This way it can be seen that there are 16 physical platforms, but in effect, 22.

Yardmaster
May 19th, 2008, 08:33 AM
^^ I must have been over-tired above: for "twenty" read "22" and "22" read "24".

ed110220
November 12th, 2008, 03:19 AM
I don't think we have had any from Africa (forgive me if I have missed something), so I'll add Cape Town station with 24 platforms.

As you can see, all the tracks end here.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2035/2090495145_705d4fcb08_b.jpg

serdar samanlı
November 13th, 2008, 09:22 AM
Does Grand Central serve trains other than Metro-North?

mr_storms
November 13th, 2008, 08:45 PM
Does Grand Central serve trains other than Metro-North?

Not atm. With the east side access project though, LIRR will serve. And grand central will get 8 MORE platforms. ;)


A coupe other missed ones in the Us

Washington DC Union 18
LA Union 14

CityPolice
November 14th, 2008, 10:51 PM
Does Grand Central serve trains other than Metro-North?

well it has a subway station connected to it the 4,5,6,7,7,and S


Largest station in the world with the number of platforms
GCT 44 platforms 67 tracks When the east side access is done it will have 48 platforms 75 tracks
Retail businesses 103 visitors 500,000 a day passengers 125,000 a day 94,249 m2


The busiest in North America is Penn Station at 600,000 passengers per day.



i know these both have malls.

wolbol
January 21st, 2009, 12:05 PM
The data for Buenos Aires is wrong...

Here is the most updated list ;)


Largest Stations:

30 platforms or more (12)

52: Grand Central (New York)
48: Nord (Paris)
39: Munich Hauptbahnhof
38: Saint Lazare (Paris)
36: Est (Paris)
36: Montparnasse (Paris)
36: Waterloo (London)
33: Shinjuku (Tokyo)
33: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof
30: Tokyo Station (Tokyo)
30: Union Station (Chicago

25-29 Platforms (12 Stations)

29: Austerlitz (Paris)
29: Penn Station (New York)
29: Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya (Moscow)
29: Porta Romana (Milan)
28: Retiro (Buenos Aires)
27: Atocha (Madrid)
27: Karlsruhe Hauptbahnhof
26: Kings Cross/St.Pancras
26: Lyon (Paris)
26: Leipzig Hauptbahnhof
26: Ikebukuro (Tokyo)
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
25: Sydney Central
25: Ueno (Tokyo)

20-25 Platforms (14 Stations):

24: Chamartín (Madrid)
24: Stazione Centrale (Milan)
24: Euston (London)
24: Tennoji (Osaka)
24: Kyoto
23: Howrah (Calcutta)
23: Victoria (London)
22: Liverpool Street (London)
22: Omiya (Saitama)
22: Bruxelles-Midi
21: Shinagawa (Tokyo)
20: Constitucion (Buenos Aires)
20: Porta Garibaldi (Milan)
20: Paddington (London)

15-19 Platforms (28 Stations)

19: London Bridge (London)
19: Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof
19: Helsinki Central
19: Oslo Central
19: Perrache (Lyon)
18: Edinburgh Waverley (Scotland, UK)
18: Basel SBB & Basel SNCF
18: Saint Charles (Marseilles)
17: Once (Buenos Aires)
17: Yokohama
17: Shin-Osaka (Osaka)
17: Kazanskiy (Moscow)
17: Leeds City (UK)
16: Charing Cross/Embankment (UK)
16: Atlantic Terminal (New York)
16: Ogilvie (Chicago)
16: Glasgow Central (Scotland, UK)
16: Bern Central
16: Sendai
16: Sealdah (Calcutta)
16: Flandres (Lille)
16: Hamburg Hauptbahnhof
16: Dresden Hauptbahnhof
15: Stratford (London)
15: Kurskiy (Moscow)
15: Southern Cross Station (Melbourne)
15: Rotterdam Centraal

10-14 Platforms (40 Stations)

14: Estacio de França (Barcelona, Spain)
14: Utrecht Centraal
14: Piccadilly station (Manchester)
14: Shibuya (Tokyo)
14: Shimbashi (Tokyo)
14: Kita-senju (Tokyo)
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
14: Luzern (terminal)
14: Berlin Lehrter Hauptbahnhof
14: Barcelona Sants (Spain)
14: 30th Street Station (Philadelphia, PA)
13: Greco-Bicocca (Milan)
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
13: Amsterdam Centraal
12: Santa Justa (Seville, Spain)
12: Kievskiy (Moscow)
12: Den Haag Centraal
12: New Street (Birmingham UK)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Kanayama (Nagoya)
12: Ofuna (Yokohama)
12: Altona (Hamburg)
12: Sants (Barcelona, Spain)
12: Bruxelles-Nord
12: Reading (UK)
12: Part Dieu (Lyon)
12: Millenium (Chicago)
11: Porta Genova (Milan)
11: Paveletskiy (Moscow)
11: Belarusskiy (Moscow)
11: Berlin Ostbahnhof (East-Station)
11: Nürnberg Hauptbahnhof
10: Cadorna F.N.M. (Milan)
10: Berlin Nordkreuz/Gesundbrunnen
10: Olten (Switerland)
10: Federico Lacroze (Buenos Aires)
10: Iidabashi (Tokyo)
10: Moorgate (London)
10: Roma St (Brisbane)
10: Köln Hauptbahnhof
10: Principe Pío (Madrid)


City Totals for Main Terminii


213: Paris (France)
202: London (UK)
190: Tokyo (Japan)
97: New York (USA)
97: Milan (Italy)
95: Moscow (Russia)
75: Buenos Aires (Argentina)
74: Osaka (Japan)
61: Madrid (Spain)
58: Chicago (USA)
43: Berlin (Germany)
43: Nagoya (Japan)
39: Calcutta (Kolkutta) (India)
39: Munich (Germany)
32: Frankfurt (Germany)
31: Lyon (France)
29: Yokohama (Japan)
28: Barcelona (Spain)
28: Hamburg (Germany)
28: Melbourne (Australia)
26: Brussels (Belgium)
27: Karlsruhe (Germany)
26: Leipzig (Germany)
26: Zürich (Switzerland)
25: Glasgow (Scotland, UK)
25: Sydney (Australia)
19: Helsinki (Finland)
19: Stuttgart (Germany)
19: Oslo (Norway)
18: Edinburgh (Scotland, UK)
18: Basel (Switzerland)
18: Marseilles (France)
17: Leeds (UK)
16: Bern (Switzerland)
16: Lille (France)
16: Dresden (Germany)
15: Rotterdam (Netherlands)
14: Manchester (UK)
14: Luzern (Switzerland)
14: Utrecht (Netherlands)
14: Chiba (Japan)
14: Odawara (Japan)
13: Amsterdam (Netherlands)
12: Seville (Spain)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Birmingham (UK)
12: Den Haag (The Hague) (Netherlands)
12: Nagoya (Japan)
12: Yokohama (Japan)
12: Reading (UK)
11: Nürnberg (Nurenberg)
10: Brisbane (Australia)
10: Olten (Switzerland)
10: Köln (Cologne) (Germany)[/QUOTE]

if you consider a city total for the 'main terminii' than you have to add brussels North, brussels South and brussels Luxembourg to the numbers of Brussels midi I guess..

Rohne
January 21st, 2009, 02:05 PM
Bruxelles Midi = Brussels South, or am I wrong? North and South are both listed, but 22+12 is 34 and not 26 ;)

Another mistake:
Listed Berlin stations are Hauptbahnhof (14), Ostbahnhof (11) and Nordkreuz (10), which sums up to 35, but Berlin total is listed with 43, so there's an 8 track station missing, but I thought only stations with more than 10 tracks are counted?
Also: if you count Berlin Ostbahnhof & Nordkreuz, you also have to count München Ostbahnhof (14), Frankfurt Südbahnhof (11), Hamburg Altona (? but >10)...

Spam King
January 22nd, 2009, 05:14 PM
Bruxelles Midi = Brussels South, or am I wrong? North and South are both listed, but 22+12 is 34 and not 26 ;)

Another mistake:
Listed Berlin stations are Hauptbahnhof (14), Ostbahnhof (11) and Nordkreuz (10), which sums up to 35, but Berlin total is listed with 43, so there's an 8 track station missing, but I thought only stations with more than 10 tracks are counted?
Also: if you count Berlin Ostbahnhof & Nordkreuz, you also have to count München Ostbahnhof (14), Frankfurt Südbahnhof (11), Hamburg Altona (? but >10)...

Berlin has a few long distance stations: Hauptbahnhof, Gesundbrunnen (not Nordkreuz), Südkreuz (Papestraße), Ostbahnhof, and Spandau (the 8 track station that was missing from the calculation). I guess you could also include Friedrichstraße, Zoooligscher Garten and Alexanderplatz, although ICE doesn't stop there...

Rohne
January 22nd, 2009, 06:59 PM
If only stations with >10 tracks are counted, you can't include Spandau (also not Zoo, Alex, etc).
Anyway, München-Ost, Frankfurt-Süd, HH-Altona, etc are still missing (all terminus, long distance & >10 tracks)

foxmulder_ms
January 24th, 2009, 03:31 AM
How come there is nothing from China? Even Beijing South Railway Station alone has more 20 platforms,

From wiki;

"The enormous oval-shaped station was designed by the UK/Hong Kong architecture firm of Terry Farrell and Partners in collaboration with the Tianjin Design Institute.[4] It was built from more than 60,000 tons of steel and 490,000 cubic meters of concrete by 4,000 workers in less than three years. The glass ceiling is outfitted with 3,246 solar panels to generate electricity. The structure spreads out like a ray or trilobite and covers 320,000 square meters, more than the Beijing National Stadium's 258,000 m2.[5] Its 24 platforms have the capacity to dispatch 30,000 passengers per hour or 241,920,000 a year.[6] The 251,000 m2 waiting area can accommodate 10,000 passengers."

hoosier
January 24th, 2009, 04:11 AM
How come there is nothing from China? Even Beijing South Railway Station alone has more 20 platforms,

From wiki;

"The enormous oval-shaped station was designed by the UK/Hong Kong architecture firm of Terry Farrell and Partners in collaboration with the Tianjin Design Institute.[4] It was built from more than 60,000 tons of steel and 490,000 cubic meters of concrete by 4,000 workers in less than three years. The glass ceiling is outfitted with 3,246 solar panels to generate electricity. The structure spreads out like a ray or trilobite and covers 320,000 square meters, more than the Beijing National Stadium's 258,000 m2.[5] Its 24 platforms have the capacity to dispatch 30,000 passengers per hour or 241,920,000 a year.[6] The 251,000 m2 waiting area can accommodate 10,000 passengers."

The list was posted in 2006. As China completes its rail network along with new stations I am sure that many Chinese cities will be on the list.

yaohua2000
January 24th, 2009, 11:46 AM
How come there is nothing from China? Even Beijing South Railway Station alone has more 20 platforms

Beijing South has 24 platforms. Only platform 18 to 24 are open currently, but platform 24 is rarely used. Other platforms are reserved for the Beijing-Shanghai high speed line and future conventional speed trains. Beijing South also has two metro lines (4 platforms, not yet open).

Beijing (Beijing's Main Railway Station) has 14 platforms (8 physical platforms) and 16 tracks, two of them are not served by platform. Beijing Subway line 2 serves the station (2 platform).

Beijing West has 18 platforms (10 physical platforms).

Beijing North (which was opened just one week ago) has 11 platforms (6 physical platforms). Beijing Subway line 2 and line 13, and in future line 4 next year, serve the station (7 platforms)

JoKo65
January 24th, 2009, 01:51 PM
[…]
I guess you could also include Friedrichstraße, Zoooligscher Garten and Alexanderplatz, although ICE doesn't stop there...

These are no long distance stations.
But Potsdamer Platz is a long distance station, because Veolia long distance trains stop there, but it is not > 10. Another long distance station is Lichtenberg, trains to Russia start there.

JoKo65
January 24th, 2009, 02:01 PM
10: Köln Hauptbahnhof

Köln Hbf has got 11 tracks with extra long platforms, so that up to three trains can stop per track.

Other long distance stations in Köln are: Messe/Deutz and Airport. Messe/Deutz is > 10.

JoKo65
January 24th, 2009, 02:09 PM
Here is the most updated list

Largest Stations:

Where is the data for Dortmund Hbf, Essen Hbf, Duisburg Hbf and Düsseldorf Hbf? They are all > 10.
Düsseldorf has a second long distance station – Flughafen (Airport), but it is not > 10.

AAPMBerlin
January 24th, 2009, 05:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
The data for Buenos Aires is wrong...

Here is the most updated list


Largest Stations:

30 platforms or more (12)

52: Grand Central (New York)
48: Nord (Paris)
39: Munich Hauptbahnhof
38: Saint Lazare (Paris)
36: Est (Paris)
36: Montparnasse (Paris)
36: Waterloo (London)
33: Shinjuku (Tokyo)
33: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof
30: Tokyo Station (Tokyo)
30: Union Station (Chicago

25-29 Platforms (12 Stations)

29: Austerlitz (Paris)
29: Penn Station (New York)
29: Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya (Moscow)
29: Porta Romana (Milan)
28: Retiro (Buenos Aires)
27: Atocha (Madrid)
27: Karlsruhe Hauptbahnhof:ohno:--> only 14!!!!
26: Kings Cross/St.Pancras
26: Lyon (Paris)
26: Leipzig Hauptbahnhof
26: Ikebukuro (Tokyo)
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
25: Sydney Central
25: Ueno (Tokyo)

20-25 Platforms (14 Stations):

24: Chamartín (Madrid)
24: Stazione Centrale (Milan)
24: Euston (London)
24: Tennoji (Osaka)
24: Kyoto
23: Howrah (Calcutta)
23: Victoria (London)
22: Liverpool Street (London)
22: Omiya (Saitama)
22: Bruxelles-Midi
21: Shinagawa (Tokyo)
20: Constitucion (Buenos Aires)
20: Porta Garibaldi (Milan)
20: Paddington (London)

15-19 Platforms (28 Stations)

19: London Bridge (London)
19: Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof
19: Helsinki Central
19: Oslo Central
19: Perrache (Lyon)
18: Edinburgh Waverley (Scotland, UK)
18: Basel SBB & Basel SNCF
18: Saint Charles (Marseilles)
17: Once (Buenos Aires)
17: Yokohama
17: Shin-Osaka (Osaka)
17: Kazanskiy (Moscow)
17: Leeds City (UK)
16: Charing Cross/Embankment (UK)
16: Atlantic Terminal (New York)
16: Ogilvie (Chicago)
16: Glasgow Central (Scotland, UK)
16: Bern Central
16: Sendai
16: Sealdah (Calcutta)
16: Flandres (Lille)
16: Hamburg Hauptbahnhof
16: Dresden Hauptbahnhof
15: Stratford (London)
15: Kurskiy (Moscow)
15: Southern Cross Station (Melbourne)
15: Rotterdam Centraal

10-14 Platforms (40 Stations)

14: Estacio de França (Barcelona, Spain)
14: Utrecht Centraal
14: Piccadilly station (Manchester)
14: Shibuya (Tokyo)
14: Shimbashi (Tokyo)
14: Kita-senju (Tokyo)
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
14: Luzern (terminal)
14: Berlin Lehrter Hauptbahnhof
14: Barcelona Sants (Spain)
14: 30th Street Station (Philadelphia, PA)
13: Greco-Bicocca (Milan)
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
13: Amsterdam Centraal
12: Santa Justa (Seville, Spain)
12: Kievskiy (Moscow)
12: Den Haag Centraal
12: New Street (Birmingham UK)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Kanayama (Nagoya)
12: Ofuna (Yokohama)
12: Altona (Hamburg)
12: Sants (Barcelona, Spain)
12: Bruxelles-Nord
12: Reading (UK)
12: Part Dieu (Lyon)
12: Millenium (Chicago)
11: Porta Genova (Milan)
11: Paveletskiy (Moscow)
11: Belarusskiy (Moscow)
11: Berlin Ostbahnhof (East-Station)
11: Nürnberg Hauptbahnhof
10: Cadorna F.N.M. (Milan)
10: Berlin Nordkreuz/Gesundbrunnen
10: Olten (Switerland)
10: Federico Lacroze (Buenos Aires)
10: Iidabashi (Tokyo)
10: Moorgate (London)
10: Roma St (Brisbane)
10: Köln Hauptbahnhof
10: Principe Pío (Madrid)


City Totals for Main Terminii


213: Paris (France)
202: London (UK)
190: Tokyo (Japan)
97: New York (USA)
97: Milan (Italy)
95: Moscow (Russia)
75: Buenos Aires (Argentina)
74: Osaka (Japan)
61: Madrid (Spain)
58: Chicago (USA)
43: Berlin (Germany)
43: Nagoya (Japan)
39: Calcutta (Kolkutta) (India)
39: Munich (Germany)
32: Frankfurt (Germany)
31: Lyon (France)
29: Yokohama (Japan)
28: Barcelona (Spain)
28: Hamburg (Germany)
28: Melbourne (Australia)
26: Brussels (Belgium)
27: Karlsruhe (Germany)
26: Leipzig (Germany)
26: Zürich (Switzerland)
25: Glasgow (Scotland, UK)
25: Sydney (Australia)
19: Helsinki (Finland)
19: Stuttgart (Germany)
19: Oslo (Norway)
18: Edinburgh (Scotland, UK)
18: Basel (Switzerland)
18: Marseilles (France)
17: Leeds (UK)
16: Bern (Switzerland)
16: Lille (France)
16: Dresden (Germany)
15: Rotterdam (Netherlands)
14: Manchester (UK)
14: Luzern (Switzerland)
14: Utrecht (Netherlands)
14: Chiba (Japan)
14: Odawara (Japan)
13: Amsterdam (Netherlands)
12: Seville (Spain)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Birmingham (UK)
12: Den Haag (The Hague) (Netherlands)
12: Nagoya (Japan)
12: Yokohama (Japan)
12: Reading (UK)
11: Nürnberg (Nurenberg)
10: Brisbane (Australia)
10: Olten (Switzerland)
10: Köln (Cologne) (Germany)


karlsruhe has 14 plattforms and not 27!

Grunnen
January 24th, 2009, 07:09 PM
Where is the data for Dortmund Hbf, Essen Hbf, Duisburg Hbf and Düsseldorf Hbf? They are all > 10.
Düsseldorf has a second long distance station – Flughafen (Airport), but it is not > 10.

Dortmund Hbf 17
Düsseldorf Hbf 16
Essen Hbf 13
Duisburg Hbf 12

Maybe Hagen Hbf should be added as well, it has something like 10-14 tracks, depending on how you count.

Wuppeltje
January 25th, 2009, 02:55 AM
For Amsterdam you can count Amsterdam Sloterdijk in as a Main Terminal for 12 platforms (10 rail + 2 subway).

I think we should add split platforms too. Amsterdam Centraal has only 11 rail platforms, but it handles like it has 21 rail platforms. Both in capacity and in number of passengers it fits more in that category (even in the 21/23 platform category it scores high).

SimFox
January 25th, 2009, 01:33 PM
And where, if I may ask, all the Chinese cities?

Here are stats for BJ (not sure that those are complete, but for the stations I know for sure exist( on which I personally have been)

Beijing South (newest - opened in 2008): 22
Beijing West: 18
Beijing Central: 14
Beijing North: 11
Beijing East(learned about it by accident -before considered Central to be East one): 3
_____________________________________________________
Beijing total: 68

Alexriga
January 25th, 2009, 02:14 PM
Paris rocks. All those cool station and modern trains. And reasonable price I'd like to say. Opposite of British :D

yaohua2000
January 25th, 2009, 02:42 PM
Beijing South=24

You did not count other stations in Beijing down town.

Within the fourth ring road:
* Qinghuayuan: 2 platforms
* Fengtai: 5 platforms

So Beijing downtown (within 4th ring road) total: 77

And where, if I may ask, all the Chinese cities?

Here are stats for BJ (not sure that those are complete, but for the stations I know for sure exist( on which I personally have been)

Beijing South (newest - opened in 2008): 22
Beijing West: 18
Beijing Central: 14
Beijing North: 11
Beijing East(learned about it by accident -before considered Central to be East one): 3
_____________________________________________________
Beijing total: 68

MarcVD
January 25th, 2009, 06:55 PM
Brussels stations :

- Brussels Midi 22 + 6 if you count other forms of public transport
- Brussels North 12 + 4 if you...
- Schaerbeek 15
- Bruxelles Central 6 + 2 if you ...
- Bruxelles Luxembourg 6

Grand total is therefore 71, 61 for pure train tracks, or 49 if only stations of
more than 10 tracks count.

You may also want to add Antwerp, with 14 tracks, on 3 levels :

Level +1 6 terminal tracks (leading South)
Level 0 4 terminal tracks (leading South)
Level -1 4 passthrough tracks, continuing North to the Netherlands
via a tunnel under the city.

Plus 2 tracks of subway if you want to add them.

Wuppeltje
January 25th, 2009, 08:32 PM
^^

I don't think we should add light rail to them, other wise it will be an even bigger mess. We can discuss subway station. I saw that in the list subway platform were counted in examples from several other stations. In case of Antwerp I wouldn't say that the 'premetro' is a full subway line though.

sotavento
January 27th, 2009, 01:31 AM
In portugal we have:



Main stations in Porto:

Porto Campanha Station
- 15 rail platforms (6 terminal + 9 passing tracks)
- 3 tracks w/o platform
+ 2 metro(light rail) platfoms (since they are used to some 30km long metro/comuter trains they should be counted)
~ as it is the long distance terminus of Porto city in the near future some more tracks will be added to serve the TGV trains to Lisboa and Vigo (expected some 4/6 underground platforms)
~ aditionally some more metro platforms are expected at a lower level
= 15/17 platforms

Porto SãoBento station (inner city terminus)
- 8 platforms (all terminal)
- 2 metro(light rail) platforms
= 8/10 platforms

The other terminus in porto became ireelevant in this counting in the last decade:
Matosinhos/Leixões = became a mere siding in the Leixões harbour complex
Boavista = old narrow gauge ... the site is completely empty (only the skelet of th emain building remains) ... will be redeveloped in thbe future
Trindade station = old narrow gauge terminis ... it became a passtru metro station (3 tracks nowadays , the previous had half a dozen)

Porto = 23 (27 with metro) platforms in "main" stations. :ohno:

........................................................................

Aveiro =
- 5 platforms (broad gauge)
- 2 platforms (narrow gauge)
~ also will have AV tracks/platforms (number and future layout still unknown)
= 7 platforms

..........................................................................

Braga main station = 6 terminal tracks/platforms ... future AV station with adittional pass-tru tracks (4 to 6 more tracks?)

...............................................................

CoimbraB station = 9 platforms (7 pass + 2 term.)

Coimbra station (central) = 3 platforms

Coimbra Parque station = 1 track (comuters just reverse there)

= 13 platforms in termini stations

..................................................................

Entroncamento
- 7+1 platforms (passing tracks)
- 4 platforms (termini)
= 12 platforms

...................................................................

Main stations in Lisboa:

Gare do Oriente station (lisboa long distance main interchange)
- 8 platforms (3 more will be added in the near futur to serve the AV to Porto and Madrid)
- 2 metro platforms underground

Santa Apolonia station (northern line terminus + international traffic)
- 8 platforms (6 open to passenger service)
- 2 metro underground platforms

Rossio station (terminus Sintra Line+Oeste line)
- 5 tracks (had more before rebuild... some 10)
- 2 metro tracks (2 aditional metro stations nearby)

Cais do Sodré (terminus Esturil Line , ferry-boat terminus:lol:)
- 6 platforms (had more until recently rebuild)
- 3 metro platforms
+ 4 light rail platforms
+ 2 ferry-boat pontoons :cheers:

Entrecampos station (the true CENTRAL station in lisboa)
- 6 platforms
- 2 metro platforms

Aditionally there are other stations that either serve long distance trains (Sete Rios with 4 tracks) or are terminus for interurban services (areeiro with 4 tracks , Alcantara with 3 platforms) or comuter interchanges (Campolide with 5 platforms) but considering that they are more or less in line with the 4 passing tracks of Entrecampos station I would no dare to call them "isolated" stations (with full rights it should be considered an urban sprawl of platforms:lol:).The central quadruple line in lisboa consists of a western junction left of SeteRios station then the S.rios , Entrecampos and Areeiro stations and another junction right of areeiro

Total terminus platforms in lisboa:

Total number of tracks at main stations = 48
total termini platforms at main stations = 19

We should add aonther TOP list ... total number of main/terminal stations ... London would definitely take the cup. :ohno:

kolkatausa
January 27th, 2009, 06:56 AM
Howrah Station, Howrah(Kolkata)-23 Platforms
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u284/dave302de/271116838_a302509867_o.jpg

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u284/dave302de/1930733396_9204243ea1_b.jpg

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u284/dave302de/2551232412_6edd44886d_b.jpg
cc:from flickr

Grunnen
January 27th, 2009, 07:18 PM
@sotavento: In this thread, only stations with 10 platforms or more count, ok?

Just thought of another station today: Cape Town (ZA). It has 22 platforms.

Is it time already for an updated complete list?

Homer J. Simpson
January 27th, 2009, 07:30 PM
Is there a list of stations that has total annual passengers on it?

bashuple
January 27th, 2009, 07:40 PM
Africa is probably not part of the world? Cape Town has 24 platforms.

davsot
January 28th, 2009, 04:00 AM
incredible pics!

davsot
January 28th, 2009, 04:05 AM
How can you say Africa is not part of the world? We're on the world forums. At least they have stations!

sotavento
January 28th, 2009, 05:55 AM
@sotavento: In this thread, only stations with 10 platforms or more count, ok?

Just thought of another station today: Cape Town (ZA). It has 22 platforms.

Is it time already for an updated complete list?

Do you see Porto Campanhã station with its 15 platforms over there (17 if you count the metro one ... actually the 2 metro are in the railway section so it should be counted) ??? on that list ???

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Do you see the Porto city main terminals total of 27 platforms ????


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


do you see lisboa main termini grand total of 55 platforms there ???


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


so Stuffit if you please.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
The data for Buenos Aires is wrong...

Here is the most updated list


Largest Stations:

30 platforms or more (12)

52: Grand Central (New York)
48: Nord (Paris)
39: Munich Hauptbahnhof
38: Saint Lazare (Paris)
36: Est (Paris)
36: Montparnasse (Paris)
36: Waterloo (London)
33: Shinjuku (Tokyo)
33: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof
30: Tokyo Station (Tokyo)
30: Union Station (Chicago

25-29 Platforms (12 Stations)

29: Austerlitz (Paris)
29: Penn Station (New York)
29: Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya (Moscow)
29: Porta Romana (Milan)
28: Retiro (Buenos Aires)
27: Atocha (Madrid)
27: Karlsruhe Hauptbahnhof:ohno:--> only 14!!!!
26: Kings Cross/St.Pancras
26: Lyon (Paris)
26: Leipzig Hauptbahnhof
26: Ikebukuro (Tokyo)
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
25: Sydney Central
25: Ueno (Tokyo)

20-25 Platforms (14 Stations):

24: Chamartín (Madrid)
24: Stazione Centrale (Milan)
24: Euston (London)
24: Tennoji (Osaka)
24: Kyoto
23: Howrah (Calcutta)
23: Victoria (London)
22: Liverpool Street (London)
22: Omiya (Saitama)
22: Bruxelles-Midi
21: Shinagawa (Tokyo)
20: Constitucion (Buenos Aires)
20: Porta Garibaldi (Milan)
20: Paddington (London)

15-19 Platforms (28 Stations)

19: London Bridge (London)
19: Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof
19: Helsinki Central
19: Oslo Central
19: Perrache (Lyon)
18: Edinburgh Waverley (Scotland, UK)
18: Basel SBB & Basel SNCF
18: Saint Charles (Marseilles)
17: Once (Buenos Aires)
17: Yokohama
17: Shin-Osaka (Osaka)
17: Kazanskiy (Moscow)
17: Leeds City (UK)
17: Campanhã (Porto/Oporto)
16: Charing Cross/Embankment (UK)
16: Atlantic Terminal (New York)
16: Ogilvie (Chicago)
16: Glasgow Central (Scotland, UK)
16: Bern Central
16: Sendai
16: Sealdah (Calcutta)
16: Flandres (Lille)
16: Hamburg Hauptbahnhof
16: Dresden Hauptbahnhof
15: Kurskiy (Moscow)
15: Stratford (London)
15: Southern Cross Station (Melbourne)
15: Rotterdam Centraal

10-14 Platforms (40 Stations)

14: Estacio de França (Barcelona, Spain)
14: Utrecht Centraal
14: Piccadilly station (Manchester)
14: Shibuya (Tokyo)
14: Shimbashi (Tokyo)
14: Kita-senju (Tokyo)
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
14: Luzern (terminal)
14: Berlin Lehrter Hauptbahnhof
14: Barcelona Sants (Spain)
14: 30th Street Station (Philadelphia, PA)
13: Greco-Bicocca (Milan)
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
13: Amsterdam Centraal
12: Santa Justa (Seville, Spain)
12: Kievskiy (Moscow)
12: Den Haag Centraal
12: New Street (Birmingham UK)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Kanayama (Nagoya)
12: Ofuna (Yokohama)
12: Altona (Hamburg)
12: Sants (Barcelona, Spain)
12: Bruxelles-Nord
12: Reading (UK)
12: Part Dieu (Lyon)
12: Millenium (Chicago)
11: Porta Genova (Milan)
11: Paveletskiy (Moscow)
11: Belarusskiy (Moscow)
11: Berlin Ostbahnhof (East-Station)
11: Nürnberg Hauptbahnhof
10: Cadorna F.N.M. (Milan)
10: Berlin Nordkreuz/Gesundbrunnen
10: Olten (Switerland)
10: Oriente (Lisboa)
10: Federico Lacroze (Buenos Aires)
10: Iidabashi (Tokyo)
10: Moorgate (London)
10: Roma St (Brisbane)
10:Santa Apolonia(Lisboa)
10: Köln Hauptbahnhof
10: Principe Pío (Madrid)
10: São Bento (Porto)


City Totals for Main Terminii


213: Paris (France)
202: London (UK)
190: Tokyo (Japan)
97: New York (USA)
97: Milan (Italy)
95: Moscow (Russia)
75: Buenos Aires (Argentina)
74: Osaka (Japan)
61: Madrid (Spain)
58: Chicago (USA)
55: Lisboa (Portugal)
43: Berlin (Germany)
43: Nagoya (Japan)
39: Calcutta (Kolkutta) (India)
39: Munich (Germany)
32: Frankfurt (Germany)
31: Lyon (France)
29: Yokohama (Japan)
28: Barcelona (Spain)
28: Hamburg (Germany)
28: Melbourne (Australia)
26: Brussels (Belgium)
27: Porto(Portugal)
27: Karlsruhe (Germany)
26: Leipzig (Germany)
26: Zürich (Switzerland)
25: Glasgow (Scotland, UK)
25: Sydney (Australia)
19: Helsinki (Finland)
19: Stuttgart (Germany)
19: Oslo (Norway)
18: Edinburgh (Scotland, UK)
18: Basel (Switzerland)
18: Marseilles (France)
17: Leeds (UK)
16: Bern (Switzerland)
16: Lille (France)
16: Dresden (Germany)
15: Rotterdam (Netherlands)
14: Manchester (UK)
14: Luzern (Switzerland)
14: Utrecht (Netherlands)
14: Chiba (Japan)
14: Odawara (Japan)
13: Amsterdam (Netherlands)
12: Seville (Spain)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Birmingham (UK)
12: Den Haag (The Hague) (Netherlands)
12: Nagoya (Japan)
12: Yokohama (Japan)
12: Reading (UK)
11: Nürnberg (Nurenberg)
10: Brisbane (Australia)
10: Olten (Switzerland)
10: Köln (Cologne) (Germany)


karlsruhe has 14 plattforms and not 27!

Just addin TRUTH to the thread ... :bash:

Luckily for you that the Rossio station was unbundled and renewed (rail tracks passed from 10 to 5 ... erm ... do tracks acessible from both sides count as 1 or 2 platforms ??? if so it still has 10 platforms now that I remember it)
Aditionally Entrecampos station had 2 tracks/platforms removed in the last decade (another ex.10 platform station)
Cais do Sodré also had platforms removed recently ... down to 9.

Just imagine that ... a small country poluting the list. :cheers:


Noticed that Principe Pior is quoted as having 10 platforms ... last time I was there it had only 3 or 4 rail platforms (plus some other 4/5 metro ones) ... when was the list updated for the last time ???

If one is to count tracks without platforms then we would have some stations well over 100 ... and does metro platforms count or not ??? some people include them and others don't.

sotavento
January 28th, 2009, 06:13 AM
I don't think we have had any from Africa (forgive me if I have missed something), so I'll add Cape Town station with 24 platforms.

As you can see, all the tracks end here.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2035/2090495145_705d4fcb08_b.jpg

:lol:


Is anyone actually updating the list ???


^^

with reference to the last posting, are 2a & 2b like this (+++) represents a railway track, (___) the edge of a platform:

+<train>+++<train>++
____________________

(2a)..............(2b)


or like this?


+<train>+++
___________

... (2a)
... (2b)
___________

+<train>+++

Like the first one. Here a full diagram of the tracks and platforms. (===) represents a railway track, (xxx) a platform. The trains can take off in both directions.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx platform xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
15a ===<train>=== ========== ========== ===<train>=== 15b
14a ===<train>=== ========== ========== ===<train>=== 14b
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx platform xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
13a ===<train>=== ========== ========== ===<train>=== 13b
12a =========== ========== ========== ============ 12b
11a ===<train>=== ========== ========== ===<train>=== 11b
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx platform xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
10a ===<train>=== ========== ========== ===<train>=== 10b
9a =========== ========== ========== ============ 9b
8a ===<train>=== ========== ========== ===<train>=== 8b
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx platform xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
7a ===<train>=== ========== ========== ===<train>=== 7b
6a =========== ========== ========== ============ 6b
5a ===<train>=== ========== ========== ===<train>=== 5b
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx platform xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
4a ===<train>=== ========== ========== ===<train>=== 4b
3a =========== ========== ========== ============ 3b
2a ===<train>=== ========== ========== ===<train>=== 2b
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx platform xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
1 ===<train>===


Can anyone create a "standard" for our evaluation of te total number of platforms/tracks in any standard ??? the criteria seems to vary from one to another.


In my local case I fail to cope with stations with platforms in both sides of a single track ... conted them as ONE platform ...


Others are counting 2 parking places in the same track and in the same platform as if they were TWO oe even more different platforms (as It was comon practice in Glasgow) ... we just call it good usag eof limited resources here. :dunno:

Aditionally ... do stations on the other side of the pond count (not on city proper but maiby on the other side of a river , etc) ???

asif iqbal
January 28th, 2009, 02:36 PM
woohohooo im so glad to see edinburgh on the list

Grunnen
January 28th, 2009, 05:59 PM
I'd say:
- Every platform track counts as 1, even if it is divided into a/b sections*
- Only mainline and commuter rail (S-bahn) tracks count, metro/subway not.
- Only stations with >= 10 platforms count for the "City Totals" section.

* Hagen Hbf in Germany makes it difficult, because it splits through tracks into two portions with a different number, so that trains call at, for example, platform 5/6, which is in fact one platform. :lol:

Anyway, here's an updated list:

Largest Stations:

30 platforms or more (12)

52: Grand Central (New York)
48: Nord (Paris)
39: Munich Hauptbahnhof
38: Saint Lazare (Paris)
36: Est (Paris)
36: Montparnasse (Paris)
36: Waterloo (London)
33: Shinjuku (Tokyo)
33: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof
30: Tokyo Station (Tokyo)
30: Union Station (Chicago)

25-29 Platforms (12 Stations)

29: Austerlitz (Paris)
29: Penn Station (New York)
29: Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya (Moscow)
29: Porta Romana (Milan)
28: Retiro (Buenos Aires)
27: Atocha (Madrid)
26: Kings Cross/St.Pancras
26: Lyon (Paris)
26: Leipzig Hauptbahnhof
26: Ikebukuro (Tokyo)
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
25: Sydney Central
25: Ueno (Tokyo)

20-25 Platforms (14 Stations):

24: Chamartín (Madrid)
24: Stazione Centrale (Milan)
24: Euston (London)
24: Tennoji (Osaka)
24: Cape Town (South Africa)
24: Beijing South
24: Kyoto
23: Howrah (Calcutta)
23: Victoria (London)
22: Liverpool Street (London)
22: Omiya (Saitama)
22: Brussels Midi
21: Shinagawa (Tokyo)
20: Constitucion (Buenos Aires)
20: Porta Garibaldi (Milan)
20: Paddington (London)

15-19 Platforms (28 Stations)

19: London Bridge (London)
19: Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof
19: Helsinki Central
19: Oslo Central
19: Perrache (Lyon)
18: Edinburgh Waverley (Scotland, UK)
18: Basel SBB & Basel SNCF
18: Saint Charles (Marseilles)
18: Beijing West
17: Once (Buenos Aires)
17: Yokohama
17: Shin-Osaka (Osaka)
17: Kazanskiy (Moscow)
17: Dortmund Hbf (Germany)
17: Leeds City (UK)
16: Charing Cross/Embankment (UK)
16: Düsseldorf Hbf (Germany)
16: Atlantic Terminal (New York)
16: Ogilvie (Chicago)
16: Glasgow Central (Scotland, UK)
16: Bern Central
16: Sendai
16: Sealdah (Calcutta)
16: Flandres (Lille)
16: Hamburg Hauptbahnhof
16: Dresden Hauptbahnhof
±16: Durban station (South Africa)
15: Stratford (London)
15: Kurskiy (Moscow)
15: Southern Cross Station (Melbourne)
15: Porto Campanhã (Portugal)
15: Schaerbeek (Brussels, Belgium)
15: Rotterdam Centraal

10-14 Platforms (40 Stations)

14: Estacio de França (Barcelona, Spain)
14: Utrecht Centraal
14: Piccadilly station (Manchester)
14: Shibuya (Tokyo)
14: Beijing Central
14: Shimbashi (Tokyo)
14: Kita-senju (Tokyo)
14: Karlsruhe Hauptbahnhof (Germany)
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
14: Luzern (terminal)
14: Berlin Lehrter Hauptbahnhof
14: Barcelona Sants (Spain)
14: 30th Street Station (Philadelphia, PA)
13: Greco-Bicocca (Milan)
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
13: Amsterdam Centraal
13: Berea Road (Durban, South Africa)
13: Essen Hbf (Germany)
12: Duisburg Hbf (Germany)
12: Santa Justa (Seville, Spain)
12: Kievskiy (Moscow)
12: Den Haag Centraal
12: New Street (Birmingham UK)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Kanayama (Nagoya)
12: Ofuna (Yokohama)
12: Altona (Hamburg)
12: Sants (Barcelona, Spain)
12: Brussels North
12: Reading (UK)
12: Part Dieu (Lyon)
12: Millenium (Chicago)
11: Porta Genova (Milan)
11: Paveletskiy (Moscow)
11: Belarusskiy (Moscow)
11: Beijing North
11: Berlin Ostbahnhof (East-Station)
11: Bellville (Cape Town, South-Africa)
11: Nürnberg Hauptbahnhof
11: Köln Hauptbahnhof
10: Cadorna F.N.M. (Milan)
10: Berlin Nordkreuz/Gesundbrunnen
10: Olten (Switerland)
10: Federico Lacroze (Buenos Aires)
10: Iidabashi (Tokyo)
10: Moorgate (London)
10: Roma St (Brisbane)
10: Principe Pío (Madrid)
10: Sloterdijk (Amsterdam)

City Totals for Main Terminii

213: Paris (France)
202: London (UK)
190: Tokyo (Japan)
97: New York (USA)
97: Milan (Italy)
95: Moscow (Russia)
75: Buenos Aires (Argentina)
74: Osaka (Japan)
67: Beijing (China)
61: Madrid (Spain)
58: Chicago (USA)
49: Brussels (Belgium)
43: Berlin (Germany)
43: Nagoya (Japan)
39: Calcutta (Kolkutta) (India)
39: Munich (Germany)
35: Cape Town (South Africa)
32: Frankfurt (Germany)
31: Lyon (France)
29: Yokohama (Japan)
29: Durban (South Africa)
28: Barcelona (Spain)
28: Hamburg (Germany)
28: Melbourne (Australia)
26: Leipzig (Germany)
26: Zürich (Switzerland)
25: Glasgow (Scotland, UK)
25: Sydney (Australia)
23: Amsterdam (Netherlands)
19: Helsinki (Finland)
19: Stuttgart (Germany)
19: Oslo (Norway)
18: Edinburgh (Scotland, UK)
18: Basel (Switzerland)
18: Marseilles (France)
17: Leeds (UK)
17: Dortmund (Germany)
16: Bern (Switzerland)
16: Lille (France)
16: Düsseldorf (Germany)
16: Dresden (Germany)
15: Rotterdam (Netherlands)
15: Porto (Portugal)
14: Karlsruhe (Germany)
14: Manchester (UK)
14: Luzern (Switzerland)
14: Utrecht (Netherlands)
14: Chiba (Japan)
14: Odawara (Japan)
13: Essen (Germany)
12: Seville (Spain)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Birmingham (UK)
12: Duisburg (Germany)
12: Den Haag (The Hague) (Netherlands)
12: Nagoya (Japan)
12: Yokohama (Japan)
12: Reading (UK)
11: Nürnberg (Nurenberg)
11: Köln (Cologne) (Germany)
10: Brisbane (Australia)
10: Olten (Switzerland)

Shezan
January 29th, 2009, 03:10 AM
I'm surprised Munich is bigger than Frankfurt..

Rohne
January 29th, 2009, 11:42 PM
Strictly speaking Munich Hbf consists of 3 stations. The main hall is way smaller than Frankfurt Hbf, but there are still the two other stations on the sides.

But as I said, some edits to the list: only stations with <= 10 platforms count, so Berlin total has to be 8 less. Munich Ostbahnhof and Frankfurt Südbahnhof (both important stations with more than 10 platforms, terminus for several lines, and also served by long distance trains) were missing. Does anyone now the number of platforms of Köln-Deutz and Hamburg-Altona?
Are all stations on this list served by long-distance trains? If not, we could also add Frankfurt-Höchst (12 platforms) and some other stations.
Here the updated list:

Largest Stations:

30 platforms or more (12)

52: Grand Central (New York)
48: Nord (Paris)
39: Munich Hauptbahnhof
38: Saint Lazare (Paris)
36: Est (Paris)
36: Montparnasse (Paris)
36: Waterloo (London)
33: Shinjuku (Tokyo)
33: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof
30: Tokyo Station (Tokyo)
30: Union Station (Chicago)

25-29 Platforms (12 Stations)

29: Austerlitz (Paris)
29: Penn Station (New York)
29: Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya (Moscow)
29: Porta Romana (Milan)
28: Retiro (Buenos Aires)
27: Atocha (Madrid)
26: Kings Cross/St.Pancras
26: Lyon (Paris)
26: Leipzig Hauptbahnhof
26: Ikebukuro (Tokyo)
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
25: Sydney Central
25: Ueno (Tokyo)

20-25 Platforms (14 Stations):

24: Chamartín (Madrid)
24: Stazione Centrale (Milan)
24: Euston (London)
24: Tennoji (Osaka)
24: Cape Town (South Africa)
24: Beijing South
24: Kyoto
23: Howrah (Calcutta)
23: Victoria (London)
22: Liverpool Street (London)
22: Omiya (Saitama)
22: Brussels Midi
21: Shinagawa (Tokyo)
20: Constitucion (Buenos Aires)
20: Porta Garibaldi (Milan)
20: Paddington (London)

15-19 Platforms (28 Stations)

19: London Bridge (London)
19: Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof
19: Helsinki Central
19: Oslo Central
19: Perrache (Lyon)
18: Edinburgh Waverley (Scotland, UK)
18: Basel SBB & Basel SNCF
18: Saint Charles (Marseilles)
18: Beijing West
17: Once (Buenos Aires)
17: Yokohama
17: Shin-Osaka (Osaka)
17: Kazanskiy (Moscow)
17: Dortmund Hbf (Germany)
17: Leeds City (UK)
16: Charing Cross/Embankment (UK)
16: Düsseldorf Hbf (Germany)
16: Atlantic Terminal (New York)
16: Ogilvie (Chicago)
16: Glasgow Central (Scotland, UK)
16: Bern Central
16: Sendai
16: Sealdah (Calcutta)
16: Flandres (Lille)
16: Hamburg Hauptbahnhof
16: Dresden Hauptbahnhof
±16: Durban station (South Africa)
15: Stratford (London)
15: Kurskiy (Moscow)
15: Southern Cross Station (Melbourne)
15: Porto Campanhã (Portugal)
15: Schaerbeek (Brussels, Belgium)
15: Rotterdam Centraal

10-14 Platforms (40 Stations)

14: Estacio de França (Barcelona, Spain)
14: Utrecht Centraal
14: Piccadilly station (Manchester)
14: Shibuya (Tokyo)
14: Beijing Central
14: Shimbashi (Tokyo)
14: Kita-senju (Tokyo)
14: Karlsruhe Hauptbahnhof (Germany)
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
14: Luzern (terminal)
14: Berlin Lehrter Hauptbahnhof
14: Barcelona Sants (Spain)
14: 30th Street Station (Philadelphia, PA)
14: Munich Ostbahnhof
13: Greco-Bicocca (Milan)
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
13: Amsterdam Centraal
13: Berea Road (Durban, South Africa)
13: Essen Hbf (Germany)
12: Duisburg Hbf (Germany)
12: Santa Justa (Seville, Spain)
12: Kievskiy (Moscow)
12: Den Haag Centraal
12: New Street (Birmingham UK)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Kanayama (Nagoya)
12: Ofuna (Yokohama)
12: Altona (Hamburg)
12: Sants (Barcelona, Spain)
12: Brussels North
12: Reading (UK)
12: Part Dieu (Lyon)
12: Millenium (Chicago)
11: Porta Genova (Milan)
11: Paveletskiy (Moscow)
11: Belarusskiy (Moscow)
11: Beijing North
11: Berlin Ostbahnhof (East-Station)
11: Bellville (Cape Town, South-Africa)
11: Nürnberg Hauptbahnhof
11: Köln Hauptbahnhof
11: Frankfurt Südbahnhof
10: Cadorna F.N.M. (Milan)
10: Berlin Nordkreuz/Gesundbrunnen
10: Olten (Switerland)
10: Federico Lacroze (Buenos Aires)
10: Iidabashi (Tokyo)
10: Moorgate (London)
10: Roma St (Brisbane)
10: Principe Pío (Madrid)
10: Sloterdijk (Amsterdam)

City Totals for Main Terminii

213: Paris (France)
202: London (UK)
190: Tokyo (Japan)
97: New York (USA)
97: Milan (Italy)
95: Moscow (Russia)
75: Buenos Aires (Argentina)
74: Osaka (Japan)
67: Beijing (China)
61: Madrid (Spain)
58: Chicago (USA)
53: Munich (Germany)
49: Brussels (Belgium)
43: Nagoya (Japan)
43: Frankfurt (Germany)
39: Calcutta (Kolkutta) (India)
35: Berlin (Germany)
35: Cape Town (South Africa)
31: Lyon (France)
29: Yokohama (Japan)
29: Durban (South Africa)
28: Barcelona (Spain)
28: Hamburg (Germany)
28: Melbourne (Australia)
26: Leipzig (Germany)
26: Zürich (Switzerland)
25: Glasgow (Scotland, UK)
25: Sydney (Australia)
23: Amsterdam (Netherlands)
19: Helsinki (Finland)
19: Stuttgart (Germany)
19: Oslo (Norway)
18: Edinburgh (Scotland, UK)
18: Basel (Switzerland)
18: Marseilles (France)
17: Leeds (UK)
17: Dortmund (Germany)
16: Bern (Switzerland)
16: Lille (France)
16: Düsseldorf (Germany)
16: Dresden (Germany)
15: Rotterdam (Netherlands)
15: Porto (Portugal)
14: Karlsruhe (Germany)
14: Manchester (UK)
14: Luzern (Switzerland)
14: Utrecht (Netherlands)
14: Chiba (Japan)
14: Odawara (Japan)
13: Essen (Germany)
12: Seville (Spain)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Birmingham (UK)
12: Duisburg (Germany)
12: Den Haag (The Hague) (Netherlands)
12: Nagoya (Japan)
12: Yokohama (Japan)
12: Reading (UK)
11: Nürnberg (Nurenberg)
11: Köln (Cologne) (Germany)
10: Brisbane (Australia)
10: Olten (Switzerland)

Justme
January 30th, 2009, 10:17 AM
Strictly speaking Munich Hbf consists of 3 stations. The main hall is way smaller than Frankfurt Hbf, but there are still the two other stations on the sides.

But as I said, some edits to the list: only stations with <= 10 platforms count, so Berlin total has to be 8 less. Munich Ostbahnhof and Frankfurt Südbahnhof (both important stations with more than 10 platforms, terminus for several lines, and also served by long distance trains) were missing. Does anyone now the number of platforms of Köln-Deutz and Hamburg-Altona?
Are all stations on this list served by long-distance trains? If not, we could also add Frankfurt-Höchst (12 platforms) and some other stations.
Here the updated list:



If you read the thread from the beginning you will understand why stations like Frankfurt's Südbahnhof are not included. These are suburban stations.

thun
January 30th, 2009, 11:43 AM
So to speak: Isn't München-Pasing missing? Would be another 8 or 10 tracks to Munich's count...

ovem
January 30th, 2009, 03:17 PM
what about Stazione di Milano Centrale??? i think its huge!

the spliff fairy
January 30th, 2009, 03:33 PM
In terms of floorspace the ones in Beijing are meant to be the largest i think. Theres a new one in Wuhan thats possibly bigger too. They all have only 11-14 platforms though

Rohne
January 30th, 2009, 04:13 PM
If you read the thread from the beginning you will understand why stations like Frankfurt's Südbahnhof are not included. These are suburban stations.

I have read the thread several times! And no, they aren't! Of course, they are more important for local and regional traffic, than for long-distance trains. But to call them 'suburban' is quite a joke. Frankfurt Süd is located in Sachsenhausen, not far from the city center, is served by IC and ICE trains (including several that even don't stop at Hauptbahnhof) and also is Frankfurt's only stop for the night trains to Zürich, Kopenhagen, Prague and Moscow.
Same goes for Munich Ost (ok, no ICE trains, but 4 IC lines including one that doesn't stop at Hauptbahnhof), HH-Altona and Köln-Deutz. So where do you draw the line at, when Berlin Gesundbrunnen and Südkreuz which are quite unimportant are counted?

@thun: Munich Pasing only has 9 platforms, so one is missing to be counted in the list ;) Another funny example: Frankfurt Airport is Germany's second most important ICE hub (after Frankfurt Hbf), but also can't be counted coz it only has 7 tracks.

RawLee
January 30th, 2009, 06:19 PM
Budapest Nyugati has 19 tracks,Keleti 13. Déli has at least 12. Kelenföldi has at least 6 for passenger,but there are about 10 more for freight.

JoKo65
January 30th, 2009, 08:36 PM
[…]
Another funny example: Frankfurt Airport is Germany's second most important ICE hub (after Frankfurt Hbf),
[…]

I don't think so. That is Köln Hbf.

JoKo65
January 30th, 2009, 08:42 PM
Does anyone now the number of platforms of Köln-Deutz and Hamburg-Altona?

Köln-Messe/Deutz: 10 (S-Bahn included, without Stadtbahn)
Hamburg-Altona: 12 (S-Bahn included)

erajosefVIII
February 2nd, 2009, 10:22 PM
Napoli Centrale (from www.grandistazioni.it)

Frequented by some 137 thousand persons per day, 50 million per year, Napoli Centrale is a railway junction of crucial importance for the entire national railways system, with a daily traffic flow of 390 trains. It is located in piazza Giuseppe Garibaldi. The railway hub is comprised of “Napoli Centrale” station at ground level (15 platform- track: from 5 to 25) and the “Piazza Garilbaldi” underground station (3 platform-track: from1 to 4), which has two tracks for the metro and two for the national railways system.

kato2k8
February 3rd, 2009, 12:05 PM
Darmstadt HBf: 11 platforms
Ludwigshafen (Rhein) HBf : 10 platforms (only 5 IC stops per day though) + 2 underground tram (meter-gauge)

poller1
February 3rd, 2009, 01:16 PM
Antwerp:

Central Station 14 platforms
Antwerpen Berchem 10 platforms

Those are the 2 main stations.

Manchester Planner
February 3rd, 2009, 10:27 PM
14: Piccadilly station (Manchester)

Do you include light rail platforms in this list? If so, Manchester Piccadilly has a further two platforms below the main 14 platforms for the Metrolink.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2439/metrolink003jm8.jpg

jstarra49
February 5th, 2009, 01:07 AM
New York Penn Station has an ongoing project on hand to add 6 more platforms tracks by 2017.

Grand Central also has an ongoing project to add 6 more platform tracks, but it is also going to lose about 8 platform tracks in the same project targeted for completion by 2014 or so (depending on how the money flows or not)

urbanfan89
February 5th, 2009, 04:18 AM
Both Toronto Union Station and Montreal Gare Centrale have 14 mainline rail platforms, though they are almost never used to full capacity.

When you add the subway/metro platforms, it goes to 16.

jstarra49
February 5th, 2009, 01:46 PM
Newark NJ (Penn Station) has a total of 12 platforms:

6 Amtrak/NJT
2 PATH
4 Newark Subway

Hoboken (NJ) Terminal has 19 platforms:

16 NJT (need to check this for accuracy)
3 NJT HBLRT

I will check the number of actual operational NJT platforms and report back over the weekend

flierfy
February 5th, 2009, 03:00 PM
It's not a terminal as many other station named in this thread. It is, however, still missing: Halle/Saale Hbf. Its 13 platform tracks should be enough to enter the list.

jstarra49
February 5th, 2009, 08:35 PM
Here's another one:

New Delhi has the following:

16 Main Line platforms
2 Metro platforms

for a current total of 18.

It is in the process of acquiring another 2 Airport Express Line platforms by 2010 for a total of 20

jstarra49
February 6th, 2009, 11:45 PM
How do you define "platform"? Does an island platform with a track on either side count as one or two platforms?
If the latter, Penn Station has 21 platforms for commuter and long distance rail and 8 subway platforms (4 on the 7th Ave line (1,2,3) and 4 on the 8th Ave line(A,C,E)). NJT plans to add 6 or 8 platforms once they build the new Hudson tunnel.
There are 10 more subway platforms one block east that are technically connected to the station by an underground passageway, however the connection has been closed since the 80's.

Atlantic terminal has 6 commuter rail platforms and 10 subway platforms (served by the B,D,M,N,Q,R,2,3,4 and 5 trains)

And Grand Central is connected to 8 subway platforms (Lexington(4), Flushing(2) and 42nd Street Shuttle(2)) in addition to the 44 platforms used for commuter rail.

So the total including subways for Penn Station is 29 platforms, Grand Central has 52 and Atlantic terminal has a total of 16 platforms.

A correction and a couple of comments:

At GCT the 42nd St. shuttle actually has 3 platform tracks, not 2, so GCT total should be 53.

Comment 1: As a result of construction of LIRR East Side Access under GCT, the old GCT is going to lose some number of platform tracks at the lower level, the area from which will be used as the concourse for the third level under GCT where LIRR trains will terminate. That level will have 6 tracks 3 at each sub-level. Construction is in progress to be completed sometime in the mid teens.

Comment 2:
As mentioned NJT NY Penn Station Extension (or NYPSE for short) will add 6 platform tracks under 34th St. all connected by pedestrian passageways to NY Penn Station. What is even more interesting is that NYPSE will stretch between 8th Ave and 6th Ave, and hence will also connect up the Herald Sq. subway station into the Penn Station complex, thus adding another 10 subway platform tracks for a grand total of 45 tracks. Construction is about to begin on NYPSE targeted for completion in 2017 or so.

satsk3
February 8th, 2009, 06:54 PM
Here's another one:

New Delhi has the following:

16 Main Line platforms
2 Metro platforms

for a current total of 18.

It is in the process of acquiring another 2 Airport Express Line platforms by 2010 for a total of 20

I heared that there are Two Stations in Delhi, Old Delhi Station and New Delhi Station. One has 18 and other has 12, Dunno exactly :dunno:

Howrah (Culcutta/Kolkata) & Sealdah (Culcutta/Kolkata) are already in the list.

Chennai Central has 11 platforms to handle long distance trains and 3 platforms exclusively for suburban trains. There is also a platform 2A between platforms 2 and 3. it is used to handle relatively short trains. Total : 15 Platforms

Chennai Egmore has 7 Old Platforms, 2 Newly Constructed Platforms and other 2 Platforms are Under Construction. Total: 11 Platforms

Bangalore City : 10 Platforms

Secunderabad : 11 Platforms

Grunnen
February 9th, 2009, 12:55 PM
Updated list:

Largest Stations:

30 platforms or more (12)

53: New York Grand Central
48: Paris Nord
39: München Hauptbahnhof
38: Paris Saint Lazare
36: London Waterloo
36: Paris Est
36: Paris Montparnasse
33: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
33: Tokyo Shinjuku
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof
30: Chicago Union Station
30: Tokyo Station

25-29 Platforms (12 Stations)

29: Milano Porta Romana
29: Moscow Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya
29: Paris Austerlitz
28: Buenos Aires Retiro
27: Madrid Atocha
26: Leipzig Hbf (Germany)
26: London Kings Cross/St.Pancras
26: Paris Lyon
26: Tokyo Ikebukuro
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
25: Sydney Central
25: Tokyo Ueno

20-25 Platforms (17 Stations):

24: Beijing South
24: Cape Town (South Africa)
24: Kyoto
24: London Euston
24: Madrid Chamartín
24: Milano Stazione Centrale
24: Osaka Tennoji
23: Calcutta Howrah
23: London Victoria
22: Brussels South
22: London Liverpool Street
22: Omiya (Saitama)
22: Washington DC Union Station
21: New York Penn Station
21: Tokyo Shinagawa
20: Buenos Aires Constitucion
20: London Paddington
20: Milano Porta Garibaldi

15-19 Platforms (36 Stations)

19: Budapest Nyugati Pályaudvar (Hungary)
19: Helsinki Central
19: London Bridge (London)
19: Lyon Perrache
19: Oslo Central
19: Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof
18: Basel SBB & Basel SNCF
18: Beijing West
18: Edinburgh Waverley (Scotland, UK)
18: Marseilles Saint Charles (France)
17: Buenos Aires Once
17: Dortmund Hbf (Germany)
17: Hoboken Terminal (NJ/USA)
17: Leeds City (UK)
17: Moscow Kazanskiy
17: Napoli Centrale (Italy)
17: Shin-Osaka (Osaka)
17: Yokohama
16: Bern Central
16: Calcutta Sealdah
16: Dresden Hauptbahnhof
16: Durban (South Africa)
16: Düsseldorf Hbf (Germany)
16: Glasgow Central (Scotland, UK)
16: Hamburg Hauptbahnhof
16: Lille Flandres
16: London Charing Cross/Embankment
15: London Stratford
16: New Delhi
16: New York Atlantic Terminal
16: Ogilvie (Chicago)
16: Sendai
15: Brussels Schaerbeek (Belgium)
15: Melbourne Southern Cross
15: Moscow Kurskiy
15: Porto Campanhã (Portugal)
15: Rotterdam Centraal (Netherlands)

10-14 Platforms (62 Stations)

14: Antwerpen Centraal Station (Belgium)
14: Barcelona Estacio de França (Spain)
14: Beijing Central
14: Berlin Lehrter Hauptbahnhof
14: Chiba
14: Karlsruhe Hauptbahnhof (Germany)
14: Luzern (terminal)
14: Manchester Piccadilly
14: Gare Centrale de Montréal (Canada)
14: München Ostbahnhof
14: Odawara (Japan)
14: Philadelphia 30th Street Station (PA/US)
14: Tokyo Kita-senju
14: Tokyo Shibuya
14: Tokyo Shimbashi
14: Utrecht Centraal (Netherlands)
14: Toronto Union Station (Canada)
13: Greco-Bicocca (Milan)
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
13: Amsterdam Centraal
13: Essen Hbf (Germany)
13: Halle (Saale) Hbf (Germany)
13: Budapest Keleti Pályaudvar (Hungary)
12: Barcelona Sants (Spain)
12: Birmingham New Street (UK)
12: Brussels North
12: Budapest Déli Pályaudvar (Hungary)
12: Chicago Millenium
12: Den Haag Centraal
12: Duisburg Hbf (Germany)
12: Hamburg-Altona (Germany)
12: Lyon Part Dieu (France)
12: Moscow Kievskiy
12: Nagoya Kanayama (Japan)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Reading (UK)
12: Seville Santa Justa (Spain)
12: Yokohama Ofuna
11: Beijing North
11: Berlin Ostbahnhof
11: Cape Town Bellville (South-Africa)
11: Darmstadt Hbf (Germany)
11: Frankfurt Südbahnhof
11: Köln Hbf
11: Milano Porta Genova
11: Moscow Paveletskiy
11: Moscow Belarusskiy
11: Nürnberg Hbf
11: Secunderabad (India)
10: Amsterdam Sloterdijk
10: Antwerpen Berchem (Belgium)
10: Bangalore (India)
10: Berlin Nordkreuz/Gesundbrunnen
10: Brisbane Roma St
10: Buenos Aires Federico Lacroze
10: Köln Messe/Deutz
10: London Moorgate
10: Ludwigshafen (Rhein) Hbf (Germany)
10: Madrid Principe Pío
10: Milano Cadorna F.N.M.
10: Olten (Switerland)
10: Tokyo Iidabashi

City Totals for Main Terminii

213: Paris (France)
202: London (UK)
190: Tokyo (Japan)
97: Milan (Italy)
95: Moscow (Russia)
89: New York (USA)
75: Buenos Aires (Argentina)
74: Osaka (Japan)
67: Beijing (China)
61: Madrid (Spain)
58: Chicago (USA)
53: Munich (Germany)
49: Brussels (Belgium)
44: Budapest (Hungary)
43: Frankfurt (Germany)
43: Nagoya (Japan)
39: Calcutta (Kolkutta) (India)
35: Berlin (Germany)
35: Cape Town (South Africa)
31: Lyon (France)
29: Yokohama (Japan)
28: Barcelona (Spain)
28: Hamburg (Germany)
28: Melbourne (Australia)
26: Leipzig (Germany)
26: Zürich (Switzerland)
25: Glasgow (Scotland, UK)
25: Sydney (Australia)
24: Antwerpen (Belgium)
23: Amsterdam (Netherlands)
22: Washington DC (USA)
21: Köln (Cologne) (Germany)
19: Helsinki (Finland)
19: Oslo (Norway)
19: Stuttgart (Germany)
18: Basel (Switzerland)
18: Edinburgh (Scotland, UK)
18: Marseilles (France)
17: Dortmund (Germany)
17: Hoboken (NJ/USA)
17: Leeds (UK)
17: Napoli (Italy)
16: Bern (Switzerland)
16: Dresden (Germany)
16: Durban (South Africa)
16: Düsseldorf (Germany)
16: Lille (France)
16: New Delhi (India)
15: Porto (Portugal)
15: Rotterdam (Netherlands)
14: Chiba (Japan)
14: Karlsruhe (Germany)
14: Luzern (Switzerland)
14: Manchester (UK)
14: Montréal (Canada)
14: Odawara (Japan)
14: Toronto (Canada)
14: Utrecht (Netherlands)
13: Essen (Germany)
13: Halle (Germany)
12: Birmingham (UK)
12: Den Haag (The Hague) (Netherlands)
12: Duisburg (Germany)
12: Nagoya (Japan)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Reading (UK)
12: Seville (Spain)
12: Yokohama (Japan)
11: Darmstadt (Germany)
11: Nürnberg (Nurenberg)
11: Secunderabad (India)
10: Bangalore (India)
10: Brisbane (Australia)
10: Ludwigshafen (Germany)
10: Olten (Switzerland)

Notes:
- Newark station not included - station too small without PATH/Subway)
- Hoboken station not included - how many platforms does it have exactly?)
- New Delhi included with 16 platforms - how many platforms does it have exactly? What is this with Old Delhi station?
- Barcelona Sants was twice on the list - kept entry with 12 platforms, removed entry with 14 platforms. But what is the correct number?
- Subtracted subway platforms from NY Penn Station.

Manchester Planner
February 9th, 2009, 01:20 PM
So you're not including the 2 additional platforms at Manchester Piccadilly? The total would be 16 platforms for Piccadilly - 12 bay platforms, 2 through platforms (13 & 14) and 2 platforms below the mainline station for the Metrolink.

Grunnen
February 9th, 2009, 01:37 PM
Even though it partly runs on former railway lines, it really is a tram network, right? Those are not included for any station - although I don't know how the Japanese numbers were counted.

To include tram and subway platforms, I think that most of the stations would have to be updated. For example:
Amsterdam Centraal +2 subway +9 tram
Amsterdam Sloterdijk +2 subway +1 tram
Den Haag Centraal +4 tram
Rotterdam Centraal +2 subway +4 tram
Duisburg Hbf +4 subway
Essen Hbf +4 subway
Bochum Hbf +6 subway (not included now, but would be with 6+8 = 14 total)
Dortmund Hbf +2 subway
...

jstarra49
February 9th, 2009, 02:35 PM
I was at New Delhi Station three weeks back. New Delhi has the following at present:

16 mainline platform tracks
2 Metro platform tracks on Metro Line 2

for a total of 18.

I will try to find out about Delhi Junction. It has somewhere between 16 and 20 platform tracks. But unfortunately I have not been there in a long time and meanwhile all the terminating Meter Gauge has been converted to Broad Gauge, and I don't know what that has done to platform count.

I checked Hoboken yesterday by actually going there. Here is what it has:

17 platform tracks for NJT
3 platform tracks for NJT HBLRT

for a total of 20.

Oh and also.... Grand Central should be 53, since one track for the Grand Central shuttle has been undercounted. In the original count they counted 2 tracks for the shuttle. Actually it has 3 platform tracks. It ihas:

44 MNRR
4 NYCTA lines 4,5,6
2 NYCTA line 7
3 NYCTA line S

53 Total

Cheers.

jstarra49
February 9th, 2009, 02:50 PM
Another one from the US that is curiously missing from the list is the magnificent Union Station at Washington DC. Here is what I recall, but will check when I go there in 6 weeks:

14 upper level terminating tracks used by MARC and Amtrak
8 lower level through tracks used by Amtrak and VRE
2 WMATA Metro tracks on the Red Line

for a total of 24.

These numbers are consistent with what is reported in the Wikipedia article on this station too.

ImBoredNow
February 10th, 2009, 08:13 PM
The Chennai Central has 14 platforms as of now, and there are plans to expand it.

sotavento
February 11th, 2009, 05:44 AM
So you're not including the 2 additional platforms at Manchester Piccadilly? The total would be 16 platforms for Piccadilly - 12 bay platforms, 2 through platforms (13 & 14) and 2 platforms below the mainline station for the Metrolink.

The "standard" that we are trying t oachieve is just to count the "railway" usage paltforms ... leaving metro/tram/locals/etc out of the picture as much as possible.

Aditionally the account on city totals is just about those same large cities ...



On the other hand I propose two or three aditional listings.

a) GRAND city TOTAL platforms(and maiby total tracks) at termini stations ??? aditional info on closed/not used platforms and/or multiple shared/sectorized platforms ???

b) TOTAL platforms at any given city ??? no matter in what station they might be (leaving only tram-like platforms out?) ... that would be fun to count ... and would make a great ranking. :cheers:

c) total NO platforms embark/disembark places in a city ???

satsk3
February 11th, 2009, 10:11 AM
The Chennai Central has 14 platforms as of now, and there are plans to expand it.
may be U missed the PF 2A, It's a small PF using for Trains like "Rajdhanis"...

Chennai Central - 12 for non-suburban (11+2A) & 3 for suburban, Total 15 PFs
Chennai Central expansion plan included 10-12 more new platforms.

Chennai Egmore -8 for non-suburban & 2 for suburban. Total 10 PFs &

Another Station in Chennai City, "Tambaram" with 8 PFs (suburban and non-suburban)

ImBoredNow
February 12th, 2009, 07:10 PM
may be U missed the PF 2A, It's a small PF using for Trains like "Rajdhanis"...

Chennai Central - 12 for non-suburban (11+2A) & 3 for suburban, Total 15 PFs
Chennai Central expansion plan included 10-12 more new platforms.

Chennai Egmore -8 for non-suburban & 2 for suburban. Total 10 PFs &

Another Station in Chennai City, "Tambaram" with 8 PFs (suburban and non-suburban)

Yea I got the info from wikipedia so it han't been updated for a while.
Completely forgot about the Egmore however.

Anekdote
February 13th, 2009, 11:32 AM
Vienna's Südbahnhof has 20 platforms and it is the biggest terminal station in Austria.

japanese001
February 13th, 2009, 03:25 PM
Busiest Passenger Rail Terminals = platforms ?
World's Largest = platforms ?

gincan
February 13th, 2009, 05:51 PM
Busiest Passenger Rail Terminals = platforms ?
World's Largest = platforms ?

No, most of the largest stations are sack stations with limited capacity, there are many smaller stations that handle more trains and more passengers. A through track if I'm not remembering incorrectly has quadruple the capacity of a sack track.

The expansion of the Madrid Atocha long distance station will only bring 4 new through tracks yet they will dubble the capacity of the station that already has 15 sack tracks.

yipe618
February 13th, 2009, 11:32 PM
I think I understand japanese001's point here. It seems that this thread has progressed further and further away from the intended purpose. World's largest and busiest terminal does not necessarily equal to the station with the most number of platforms. I mean, if Kim Jong Il is "feeling ambitious" today and decides to build a railway terminal with 100 platforms in Pyongyang, is that gonna be the world's largest and busiest terminal? Obviously not, right?

I honestly think that this topic should be split into 4 different ones, just like how the list of skyscrapers is split into 4 different categories.

The current one will be one of them, but renamed to "World's Largest Rail Terminal in terms of Platforms". Second can be "World's Largest Rail Terminal in terms of Station Complex Area". Third could be "World's Busiest Rail Terminal in terms of Passenger Traffic". The last one can be "World's Busiest Rail Terminal in terms of Arriving and Departing Trains". This is strictly for passenger trains. However, similar topics can be made regarding freight trains.

In this way, research data and information can be arranged in a more organized manner and I'm sure debates would be a lot more interesting and to the point with this kind of arrangement.

flierfy
February 13th, 2009, 11:44 PM
No, most of the largest stations are sack stations with limited capacity, there are many smaller stations that handle more trains and more passengers. A through track if I'm not remembering incorrectly has quadruple the capacity of a sack track.

A sack station? Are you sure that this is an English term?

loefet
February 14th, 2009, 05:25 AM
Busiest Passenger Rail Terminals = platforms ?
World's Largest = platforms ?
My view of this is that the busiest station is number of passengers/year and the largest is just the number of tracks in the station.


To add the 2 biggest stations in Sweden to this list.

Stockholm central station - 19 tracks + 6 subway tracks.

Gothenburg central Station - 16 tracks + a number of tram lines.

Grunnen
February 14th, 2009, 10:29 AM
I think I understand japanese001's point here. It seems that this thread has progressed further and further away from the intended purpose.
Actually, the very first sentence in this thread is this:

"I'd like to know which railway terminus has the most platforms, and which city has the greatest aggregate number of platforms at its railway terminii."

:)

Manchester Planner
February 14th, 2009, 12:35 PM
A sack station? Are you sure that this is an English term?

It's not... "sacbahnhof" is very much a German term and there isn't really an equivalent in (British) English. A "terminus station" is about an equivalent. Platforms where the track comes to a buffer stop rather than running through are "bay platforms".

jstarra49
February 15th, 2009, 08:17 PM
The "standard" that we are trying t oachieve is just to count the "railway" usage paltforms ... leaving metro/tram/locals/etc out of the picture as much as possible.

If that is the case then why are all the platforms for Underground in London and Subways in New York and Metro and RER in Paris apparently being counted with the respective main-line stations associated with them?

Since I cannot figure out what rules are being followed, I am reporting just the details and letting someone else figure out what rules are being followed and include appropriate information in the list.

the spliff fairy
February 16th, 2009, 12:59 PM
More info and pix, Beijing South

The glass ceiling is outfitted with 3,246 solar panels to generate electricity. The structure spreads out like a ray or trilobite and covers 320,000 sq meters (3,444,450 sq. feet), more than the Beijing National Stadium's 258,000 m2. Its 24 platforms have the capacity to dispatch 30,000 passengers per hour or 241,920,000 a year. The 251,000 m2 (2,750,000 sq. ft) waiting area can accommodate 10,000 passengers.

www.wikimedia.org, www.chinadaily.com.cn
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/BeijingSouthRailwayStation.jpg http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/images/attachement/jpg/site1/20080612/0013729e4ad909bad5081b.jpg

u/c one of the world's largest indoor spaces:


http://images.beijing2008.cn/20080123/Img214238142.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zp_eKXDTiU0/SJuTadlCMnI/AAAAAAAACWI/3LwBeW9QVNg/s320/beijing+south+railway+station+2.jpg
http://images.beijing2008.cn, http://1.bp.blogspot.com

http://t.dfnres.com/p/cnr/i/200808/BeijingSouthJingjinICE/BeijingSouth01.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3240/2738109208_6bb107c92d.jpg
http://t.dfnres.com and www.flickr.com


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/20080802105531_-_%E5%8C%97%E4%BA%AC%E5%8D%97%E7%AB%99.jpg/800px-20080802105531_-_%E5%8C%97%E4%BA%AC%E5%8D%97%E7%AB%99.jpg
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www.worldarchitecturenews.com
http://static.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/10180_6_beijing%20south%208big.jpg

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foxmulder_ms
February 16th, 2009, 11:44 PM
thanks for the pictures...

iampuking
February 17th, 2009, 12:54 AM
If that is the case then why are all the platforms for Underground in London and Subways in New York and Metro and RER in Paris apparently being counted with the respective main-line stations associated with them?

It's quite simple; They aren't.

jstarra49
February 17th, 2009, 03:37 AM
It's quite simple; They aren't.
Not really that simple.

At least in the case of New York Penn Station and Grand Central they certainly are. Whatever the rule is is not being applied uniformly is all I can say from the numbers presented in the last table.

For example NY Penn Station has the following:

21 Amtrak, LIRR and NJT mainline tracks (4 terminating, rest through)
4 NYCTA A,C,E tracks at 34th St./8th Ave station
4 NYCTA 1,2,3 tracks at 34th St./7th Ave Station

The number listed in the list is 29. Reach your own conclusions.

iampuking
February 17th, 2009, 11:16 PM
Not really that simple.

At least in the case of New York Penn Station and Grand Central they certainly are. Whatever the rule is is not being applied uniformly is all I can say from the numbers presented in the last table.

For example NY Penn Station has the following:

21 Amtrak, LIRR and NJT mainline tracks (4 terminating, rest through)
4 NYCTA A,C,E tracks at 34th St./8th Ave station
4 NYCTA 1,2,3 tracks at 34th St./7th Ave Station

The number listed in the list is 29. Reach your own conclusions.

I'll rephrase; they aren't for London. ;)

Grunnen
February 17th, 2009, 11:40 PM
At least in the case of New York Penn Station and Grand Central they certainly are. Whatever the rule is is not being applied uniformly is all I can say from the numbers presented in the last table.

For example NY Penn Station has the following:

21 Amtrak, LIRR and NJT mainline tracks (4 terminating, rest through)
4 NYCTA A,C,E tracks at 34th St./8th Ave station
4 NYCTA 1,2,3 tracks at 34th St./7th Ave Station

The number listed in the list is 29. Reach your own conclusions.

It seems that I can still edit the list on the previous page, so I updated the entry for Penn Station. Do you incidentally also know the right numbers for Grand Central? :)

serdar samanlı
February 17th, 2009, 11:58 PM
I have a question about Paris Nord. Do TGVs have their own tracks/platforms or they share tracks/platforms with other trains?

RoadUser
February 18th, 2009, 02:57 PM
I haven't read the entire thread but I don't see Clapham Junction mentioned anywhere.

According to Wikipedia it has 16 platforms and by some measurements is the busiest station in Britain.

iampuking
February 19th, 2009, 12:05 AM
I haven't read the entire thread but I don't see Clapham Junction mentioned anywhere.

According to Wikipedia it has 16 platforms and by some meansurements is the busiest station in Britain.

It's the busiest in terms of train movements I think, but not in terms of passengers.

JOVANO
February 19th, 2009, 03:08 PM
I have a question about Paris Nord. Do TGVs have their own tracks/platforms or they share tracks/platforms with other trains?

Own tracks and platforms for Eurostar (separated from rest of station by fence), Thalys and TGV.

jstarra49
February 19th, 2009, 03:13 PM
It seems that I can still edit the list on the previous page, so I updated the entry for Penn Station. Do you incidentally also know the right numbers for Grand Central? :)

Grand Central has the following:

44 MNRR
2 NYCTA Route 7 subway
4 NYCTA Routes 4,5,6 subway
3 NYCTA Route S subway

So I suppose only 44 should be listed.

jstarra49
February 19th, 2009, 03:22 PM
I heared that there are Two Stations in Delhi, Old Delhi Station and New Delhi Station. One has 18 and other has 12, Dunno exactly :dunno:
OK, New Delhi used to be 12 until last year. It got 4 more added in '08, so now it has 16. I can vouch for that because my train arrived on platform 16 a month back :)

So that would indicate that Delhi Junction (which is the official name of Old Delhi station) has 18, which sounds about right. But as I said I have not been there since they took out the Meter Gauge lines, and I don't know how many of those platforms have been replaced by Broad Gauge tracks.

Notwithstanding adding Delhi Junction with 18 would not be too far off the mark. There are larger errors for some stations on the list at present because of erroneous inclusion of subway/Metro etc. lines.

andysimo123
February 19th, 2009, 03:22 PM
So you're not including the 2 additional platforms at Manchester Piccadilly? The total would be 16 platforms for Piccadilly - 12 bay platforms, 2 through platforms (13 & 14) and 2 platforms below the mainline station for the Metrolink.

One other point on UK and Manchester train stations. On Manchester and other UK stations I'd really look at the passenger numbers that are given out because in the UK you'd a buy a ticket which says London Stations, Leeds Stations, Manchesters Stations, Glasgow Stations etc etc so you can use any station within that area. The 2006 figures for Manchester Piccadilly say 21.23 Million but the year 2007 they read 14.51 Million. Now if you look at Manchesters two other Main stations even through they can't get on the list. Oxford Road and Victoria. Victoria in 2006 reads only 487,000 but for 2007 it reads 5 Million. Its the same for Manchester Oxford Road it reads 625,000 for 2006 and 4.3 Million for 2007. I'd think alot of the figures are the same all around the UK aka incorrect and very inaccurate. They likely know how many people travel into the city but not each station.

jstarra49
February 19th, 2009, 03:25 PM
Own tracks and platforms for Eurostar (separated from rest of station by fence), Thalys and TGV.
Could someone please provide a breakdown of the platforms at Paris Gare du Nord? Like complete this table:

SNCF:
RER:
RATP:

Just to inform us of all the tracks mainline and otherwise at Nord?

Thx.

jstarra49
February 19th, 2009, 03:35 PM
I'll rephrase; they aren't for London. ;)
Really?

Earlier in this thread SE9 reported that Waterloo has:

- Platforms: 31 Overground / 5 Underground

-Lines:
*South West Trains
*Southern
*SouthEastern
*Eurostar
*Bakerloo Line
*Waterloo & City Line
*Jubilee Line
*Northern Line

- Annual Passenger entry and exit only (not including interchanging passengers): 69.131 million Overground/ 68.427 million Underground/ 7.5 Million Eurostar/ 145 million Total
My reading of that is that the underground platforms are for Bakerloo, Jubilee, Waterloo & City and Northern Lines. If that is the case then Waterloo should rightfully be listed with 31 tracks and not 36. Similar situation occurs for the other London terminals as listed by SE9 in that article.

I am just seeking clarification and edification. Thanks for your indulgence.

EtherealCat
February 20th, 2009, 07:38 PM
Tokyo Shibuya Station (8 stories)

http://www.tokyometro.jp/rosen/eki/shibuya/img/map_rittai_1.gif

EtherealCat
February 20th, 2009, 07:43 PM
Tokyo Shinjuku Station Map

http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/blv42/imgs/a/a/aa498ba8.jpg

Alexriga
February 20th, 2009, 08:01 PM
Omg, it is even worse than is Seoul :D

Tri-ring
February 21st, 2009, 01:58 AM
Tokyo Shibuya Station (8 stories)

http://www.tokyometro.jp/rosen/eki/shibuya/img/map_rittai_1.gif

This map does not include JR, Tokyu Toyoko nor Keio lines.

iampuking
February 21st, 2009, 04:05 AM
I really don't see the purpose of those maps; as they are simply not at all clear.

Are they for fire escape routes or simply for passengers to navigate?

Tri-ring
February 21st, 2009, 04:15 AM
I really don't see the purpose of those maps; as they are simply not at all clear.

Are they for fire escape routes or simply for passengers to navigate?

Escape route?

No those maps depicts the entire Shinjuku and part of Shibuya Station in 3D to show the extent of the station.
For example Shibuya is actually a station eight stories high with train lines going crisscross each ways.

ante_gotovina
February 21st, 2009, 11:58 AM
Having just been to Köln (Cologne) last weekend, one of the stations I stopped on was Bahnhof Köln Messe/Deutz. This is just across the river from the Hauptbahnhof and I believe it qualifies for this list as it seemed to have over 10 stations, and is used as a stop for Köln on the ICE (intercity trains). In fact, the ICE3, the fasted train in Germany stops here from Frankfurt or Düsseldorf. Does anyone know how many stations this actually has? Also, I fear the Köln Hauptbahnhof number of 10 doesn't include the U-bahn. Is this true?

yea, Cologne has 2 more u-bahn(metro) platforms underground, so it should be updated

iampuking
February 21st, 2009, 02:49 PM
Escape route?

No those maps depicts the entire Shinjuku and part of Shibuya Station in 3D to show the extent of the station.
For example Shibuya is actually a station eight stories high with train lines going crisscross each ways.

Yes, but my point is is that they seem utterly useless at doing that because they are so over complex.

Isn't the whole point of a map to make otherwise complicated things appear clear and simple, making it easy for one to navigate quickly?

Tri-ring
February 21st, 2009, 03:22 PM
Yes, but my point is is that they seem utterly useless at doing that because they are so over complex.

Isn't the whole point of a map to make otherwise complicated things appear clear and simple, making it easy for one to navigate quickly?

Let me ask you this, do you think you can navigate through a station that has 3D multi-layered platforms with a 2D map?:lol:

earthJoker
February 21st, 2009, 07:14 PM
3D map of Zürich HB:
http://mct.sbb.ch/mct/infra_services-uebersicht-bahnhofplaene-zuerich-hb-a4.pdf

iampuking
February 21st, 2009, 09:00 PM
Let me ask you this, do you think you can navigate through a station that has 3D multi-layered platforms with a 2D map?:lol:

Where did I say that I thought a 2D map would be a better option?

jstarra49
February 22nd, 2009, 06:27 PM
yea, Cologne has 2 more u-bahn(metro) platforms underground, so it should be updated
But I was told last week that Metro/U-Bahn/Subway is not supposed to be counted. I am still left wondering what the real rules are.

Justme
February 22nd, 2009, 09:28 PM
^^ They were counted right from the beginning of this thread. If some people are saying they are not counted anymore, they are not the original posters of this thread and since all of the original stats include metro's, their figures won't accurately compare.

My suggestion is to follow the original rules. They worked just fine for the bulk of this discussion.

Grunnen
February 22nd, 2009, 11:18 PM
^^ Fine. Can then somebody add the following numbers to the platforms?

Amsterdam Centraal: +2 subway, +2 for fast tram line 26 (?)
Amsterdam Sloterdijk: +2 metro
Bochum Hbf: 8 train + 6 stadtbahn
Budapest Déli Pu.: +2 subway
Budapest Keleti Pu.: +2 subway
Budapest Nyugati Pu. +2 subway
Dortmund Hbf: +2 Stadtbahn
Duisburg Hbf: +4 stadtbahn
Düsseldorf Hbf: +4 stadtbahn
Essen Hbf: +4 stadtbahn
Hamburg Hbf: +4 subway
Köln Hbf: +4 stadtbahn (Dom/Hbf and Breslauer Platz/Hbf)
Manchester Picadilly: +2 metrolink
Rotterdam Centraal: +2 metro
Utrecht Centraal: +2 fast tram (?)

Other entries which probably don't include metro/u-bahn/subway are:
- Antwerpen Centraal (premetro stations Astrid and Diamant)
- Brussels North
- Brussels South
- Hannover Hbf
- Hoboken NJ
- Köln Messe/Deutz
- Ludwigshafen Hbf
- München Hbf?
- Newark NJ
- New York Penn Station
- Nürnberg Hbf?
- Porto

And probably quite some more...

Justme
February 23rd, 2009, 12:16 AM
^^ A great deal of those above did include subways in the original posting of the lists. If they don't now it means the latest ones have had some removed. This is how everything goes wrong when one person decides to change the rules in the middle of the game.

I spent quite a bit of time in the beginning of the thread collecting data, and I just don't have the time now to correct all this.

DiggerD21
February 23rd, 2009, 01:15 AM
The number for Hamburg Main Station is given with 16. That is wrong in any case.

Hamburg Main Station has 14 tracks for long distance, regional and S-lines. 2 of those tracks (track 9 and 10) are not accessible by public. That makes 12 platforms of which 4 platforms are exclusively for S-Bahn. Additionally there are 6 metro-platforms below the main station. In the end we have for Hamburg Hauptbahnhof:

20 tracks
18 platforms

davsot
February 23rd, 2009, 04:51 AM
This is going to go on forever! :gaah: :hammer::blahblah::fiddle::hilarious:pet:

Grunnen
February 23rd, 2009, 10:29 AM
^^ A great deal of those above did include subways in the original posting of the lists. If they don't now it means the latest ones have had some removed. This is how everything goes wrong when one person decides to change the rules in the middle of the game.
No.

Except NY Penn Station none of them were in the list.

Edit: It seems that some of them actually were on the list before, but got lost underway. Calcutta/Howrath, for example. That makes this thread is rather pointless.

jstarra49
March 1st, 2009, 07:37 PM
No.

Except NY Penn Station none of them were in the list.

Edit: It seems that some of them actually were on the list before, but got lost underway. Calcutta/Howrath, for example. That makes this thread is rather pointless.
What's wrong with Calcutta Howrah? It has 23 main line platforms and that is it. In another 5 years or so it might get two platform tracks for the East-West Metro when it goes into service, but that is not today.

New Delhi is the one that could have an issue with Metro platforms. It has 16 mainline and 2 Metro platforms.

New York Penn should have 29 if subway (NYCTA) tracks are included and 21 if not.

There were many others that had subway tracks in their count on the list. Just stating over again and again that they don't does not make it so. :ohno:

rmcee
June 9th, 2009, 09:57 AM
Warsaw Central station was supposed to be upgraded (rebuilt / torn down and raised again - there were many concepts).

Then PKP said it has no money and decided to focus on a smaller scale project - redesigning three toilets at Warsaw Central Station. The winning design here http://pkp.pl/node/2722 (Polish only, but pics available).

The chances they will find funding for that one are scarce.

Still -Warsaw Central station remains a great example of modernism in architecture (design by Arseniusz Romanowicz - http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arseniusz_Romanowicz)

pics:

http://www.pkp.pl/files/widok%20drzwi.jpg
http://www.pkp.pl/files/umywalki%20krzeslo%20damski.jpg
http://www.pkp.pl/files/korytarz.jpg
http://www.pkp.pl/files/korytarz%20obsluga.jpg
http://www.pkp.pl/files/pisuary.jpg
http://www.pkp.pl/files/kabiny%20meski.jpg
http://www.pkp.pl/files/kabiny%20lustro%20damski.jpg
http://www.pkp.pl/files/kabina%20damski.jpg
http://www.pkp.pl/files/inwalida.jpg

rmcee
June 9th, 2009, 01:39 PM
and in English:

http://www.railwaymarket.eu/7431/Poland%2B%2BResults%2Bof%2Bthe%2Btoilet%2Bcompetition%2Bannounced.htm

gustaveau
June 13th, 2009, 08:51 AM
I am unable to find Rome anywhere in this topic.
Surely the main station "Termini" qualifies as one of the bigger stations of the world with 29 tracks. Underground there are also several metro tracks for line A+B (4 tracks i think?)
In total this would lead to 33 tracks.

rmcee
June 22nd, 2009, 03:18 PM
Hong Kong to Build World's Largest Rail Terminus

Hong Kong's Mass Transit Railway has chosen US company AECOM Technology to design the world's largest underground high-speed rail terminus.

The $2bn terminus will connect Hong Kong to the high-speed rail network in mainland China and is expected to be completed by 2015.

The multi-level terminus will extend to an area of over 25 acres with a commercial development above ground.

I wonder what will be the annual volumes of passengers served there.

dexmex
January 14th, 2010, 12:52 PM
http://i37.tinypic.com/muv906.jpg
http://www.blic.rs/_customfiles/Image/slike/2009/02_februar/11/beograd/prokop-x.jpg
BELGRADE (still under construction,finnish expect 2011)
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/118/prokop1uv6.jpg[/IMG[IMG]http://i36.tinypic.com/29xfyop.jpg]http://i33.tinypic.com/20kpqtw.jpghttp://i36.tinypic.com/28royw.jpg
http://www.visuals.beobuild.net/data/media/4/080911-Prokop-VS-01.jpg
http://www.blic.rs/_customfiles/Image/slike/2009/02_februar/11/beograd/prokop-v.jpg Construction continues....

rmcee
January 14th, 2010, 02:02 PM
BELGRADE (still under construction,finnish expect 2011)

It is an ongoing project for more than 30 years. What does the date 2011 refer to?

Nexis
January 14th, 2010, 03:14 PM
Heres Hoboken Terminal,all of NJT lines except 2 terminate here , aswell as the PATH Terminal in the basement and Hudson-Bergen Light Rail Terminal is off to the side. They are currently Renovated the Ferry slips , so they can use them again. That should be completed in 2011. There is also 3 bus lanes @ the Hoboken Bus Terminal. The Main Terminal has 20 Tracks , the Light Rail Terminal has 3 Tracks. The PATH terminal has 2 tracks. Its used by 130,000 people a day.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/19856120@N00/3622940077/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3374/3622940077_801987f01f_b.jpg

~Corey

toddhubert
January 14th, 2010, 04:54 PM
Guangzhou South Railway Station
http://bbs.home.news.cn/upfiles/0454DA68.002C

http://bbs.home.news.cn/upfiles/0454D9FA.002C

dexmex
January 14th, 2010, 07:53 PM
@rmcc

Thank you for your question,the date 2011 refer to announce of Ministry for infrastracture,that whole reilway station will be complete ,money is guaranteed by state budget(loan),also City of Belgrade finace platform 5.and 6. wich from the ehd of summer going to be on function for Regional Metro (S-Bahn)we hope that this faraonic project is come to an happy end :soon:

rmcee
January 15th, 2010, 02:27 PM
afaik also the Russian loan will be spent on this purpose?

I do hipe the project will be completed on time! Does anyone have some pics of the current stage?

sotavento
January 15th, 2010, 08:58 PM
Bringing the counting to the last page:

Updated list:

Largest Stations:

30 platforms or more (12)

53: New York Grand Central
48: Paris Nord
39: München Hauptbahnhof
38: Paris Saint Lazare
36: London Waterloo
36: Paris Est
36: Paris Montparnasse
33: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
33: Tokyo Shinjuku
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof
30: Chicago Union Station
30: Tokyo Station

25-29 Platforms (12 Stations)

29: Milano Porta Romana
29: Moscow Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya
29: Paris Austerlitz
28: Buenos Aires Retiro
27: Madrid Atocha
26: Leipzig Hbf (Germany)
26: London Kings Cross/St.Pancras
26: Paris Lyon
26: Tokyo Ikebukuro
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
25: Sydney Central
25: Tokyo Ueno

20-25 Platforms (17 Stations):

24: Beijing South
24: Cape Town (South Africa)
24: Kyoto
24: London Euston
24: Madrid Chamartín
24: Milano Stazione Centrale
24: Osaka Tennoji
23: Calcutta Howrah
23: London Victoria
22: Brussels South
22: London Liverpool Street
22: Omiya (Saitama)
22: Washington DC Union Station
21: New York Penn Station
21: Tokyo Shinagawa
20: Buenos Aires Constitucion
20: London Paddington
20: Milano Porta Garibaldi

15-19 Platforms (36 Stations)

19: Budapest Nyugati Pályaudvar (Hungary)
19: Helsinki Central
19: London Bridge (London)
19: Lyon Perrache
19: Oslo Central
19: Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof
18: Basel SBB & Basel SNCF
18: Beijing West
18: Edinburgh Waverley (Scotland, UK)
18: Marseilles Saint Charles (France)
17: Buenos Aires Once
17: Dortmund Hbf (Germany)
17: Hoboken Terminal (NJ/USA)
17: Leeds City (UK)
17: Moscow Kazanskiy
17: Napoli Centrale (Italy)
17: Shin-Osaka (Osaka)
17: Yokohama
16: Bern Central
16: Calcutta Sealdah
16: Dresden Hauptbahnhof
16: Durban (South Africa)
16: Düsseldorf Hbf (Germany)
16: Glasgow Central (Scotland, UK)
16: Hamburg Hauptbahnhof
16: Lille Flandres
16: London Charing Cross/Embankment
15: London Stratford
16: New Delhi
16: New York Atlantic Terminal
16: Ogilvie (Chicago)
16: Sendai
15: Brussels Schaerbeek (Belgium)
15: Melbourne Southern Cross
15: Moscow Kurskiy
15: Porto Campanhã (Portugal)
15: Rotterdam Centraal (Netherlands)

10-14 Platforms (62 Stations)

14: Antwerpen Centraal Station (Belgium)
14: Barcelona Estacio de França (Spain)
14: Beijing Central
14: Berlin Lehrter Hauptbahnhof
14: Chiba
14: Karlsruhe Hauptbahnhof (Germany)
14: Luzern (terminal)
14: Manchester Piccadilly
14: Gare Centrale de Montréal (Canada)
14: München Ostbahnhof
14: Odawara (Japan)
14: Philadelphia 30th Street Station (PA/US)
14: Tokyo Kita-senju
14: Tokyo Shibuya
14: Tokyo Shimbashi
14: Utrecht Centraal (Netherlands)
14: Toronto Union Station (Canada)
13: Greco-Bicocca (Milan)
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
13: Amsterdam Centraal
13: Essen Hbf (Germany)
13: Halle (Saale) Hbf (Germany)
13: Budapest Keleti Pályaudvar (Hungary)
12: Barcelona Sants (Spain)
12: Birmingham New Street (UK)
12: Brussels North
12: Budapest Déli Pályaudvar (Hungary)
12: Chicago Millenium
12: Den Haag Centraal
12: Duisburg Hbf (Germany)
12: Hamburg-Altona (Germany)
12: Lyon Part Dieu (France)
12: Moscow Kievskiy
12: Nagoya Kanayama (Japan)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Reading (UK)
12: Seville Santa Justa (Spain)
12: Yokohama Ofuna
11: Beijing North
11: Berlin Ostbahnhof
11: Cape Town Bellville (South-Africa)
11: Darmstadt Hbf (Germany)
11: Frankfurt Südbahnhof
11: Köln Hbf
11: Milano Porta Genova
11: Moscow Paveletskiy
11: Moscow Belarusskiy
11: Nürnberg Hbf
11: Secunderabad (India)
10: Amsterdam Sloterdijk
10: Antwerpen Berchem (Belgium)
10: Bangalore (India)
10: Berlin Nordkreuz/Gesundbrunnen
10: Brisbane Roma St
10: Buenos Aires Federico Lacroze
10: Köln Messe/Deutz
10: London Moorgate
10: Ludwigshafen (Rhein) Hbf (Germany)
10: Madrid Principe Pío
10: Milano Cadorna F.N.M.
10: Olten (Switerland)
10: Tokyo Iidabashi

City Totals for Main Terminii

213: Paris (France)
202: London (UK)
190: Tokyo (Japan)
97: Milan (Italy)
95: Moscow (Russia)
89: New York (USA)
75: Buenos Aires (Argentina)
74: Osaka (Japan)
67: Beijing (China)
61: Madrid (Spain)
58: Chicago (USA)
53: Munich (Germany)
49: Brussels (Belgium)
44: Budapest (Hungary)
43: Frankfurt (Germany)
43: Nagoya (Japan)
39: Calcutta (Kolkutta) (India)
35: Berlin (Germany)
35: Cape Town (South Africa)
35: Lisboa (Portugal , +13 metro)
31: Lyon (France)
29: Yokohama (Japan)
28: Barcelona (Spain)
28: Hamburg (Germany)
28: Melbourne (Australia)
26: Leipzig (Germany)
26: Zürich (Switzerland)
25: Glasgow (Scotland, UK)
25: Sydney (Australia)
24: Antwerpen (Belgium)
23: Amsterdam (Netherlands)
22: Washington DC (USA)
21: Köln (Cologne) (Germany)
21: Porto (Portugal +4 metro/LRT)
19: Helsinki (Finland)
19: Oslo (Norway)
19: Stuttgart (Germany)
18: Basel (Switzerland)
18: Edinburgh (Scotland, UK)
18: Marseilles (France)
17: Dortmund (Germany)
17: Hoboken (NJ/USA)
17: Leeds (UK)
17: Napoli (Italy)
16: Bern (Switzerland)
16: Dresden (Germany)
16: Durban (South Africa)
16: Düsseldorf (Germany)
16: Lille (France)
16: New Delhi (India)
15: Rotterdam (Netherlands)
14: Chiba (Japan)
14: Karlsruhe (Germany)
14: Luzern (Switzerland)
14: Manchester (UK)
14: Montréal (Canada)
14: Odawara (Japan)
14: Toronto (Canada)
14: Utrecht (Netherlands)
13: Essen (Germany)
13: Halle (Germany)
12: Birmingham (UK)
12: Den Haag (The Hague) (Netherlands)
12: Duisburg (Germany)
12: Nagoya (Japan)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Reading (UK)
12: Seville (Spain)
12: Yokohama (Japan)
11: Darmstadt (Germany)
11: Nürnberg (Nurenberg)
11: Secunderabad (India)
10: Bangalore (India)
10: Brisbane (Australia)
10: Ludwigshafen (Germany)
10: Olten (Switzerland)

Notes:
- Newark station not included - station too small without PATH/Subway)
- Hoboken station not included - how many platforms does it have exactly?)
- New Delhi included with 16 platforms - how many platforms does it have exactly? What is this with Old Delhi station?
- Barcelona Sants was twice on the list - kept entry with 12 platforms, removed entry with 14 platforms. But what is the correct number?
- Subtracted subway platforms from NY Penn Station.

Edited info in RED:

21: Porto (Portugal) number of platforms = 15 campanha station (+2 metro/light rail) + 6 (or still 8?) São bento station (+2 metro/light rail) no metro/tram platforms counted)
- reduced São Bento from 8 to 6 ... I think they removed the acess to the 2 outer platforms

35 Lisboa = 8 Oriente st.(+2 metro) + 7 Cais sodre st. (+3 metro + 3 FERRY + 2 light rail not counted) + 5 rossio (+2 metro not counted) + 3 Alcantara + 6 Santa Apolonia (+2 non passenger +2 metro not counted) + 6 Entrecampos (+2 metro not counted)

Only "platforms" in mainline passenger service counted and we get 35 platforms in total distributed among 5 terminal/Main stations.


Aditionally ... there are a lot of places still missing there ... :ohno:

And I still feel that we should count the METRO/SUBWAY platforms ... in most places they are just regular railway services anyway. :dunno:

dmarney
January 16th, 2010, 03:57 PM
there are definetly lots of stations missing from the list, but it would take so long to make a complete list

LUCAFUSAR
January 16th, 2010, 08:39 PM
^^
Updated list:

Largest Stations:

30 platforms or more (12)

53: New York Grand Central
48: Paris Nord
39: München Hauptbahnhof
38: Paris Saint Lazare
36: London Waterloo
36: Paris Est
36: Paris Montparnasse
33: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
33: Tokyo Shinjuku
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof
30: Chicago Union Station
30: Tokyo Station

25-29 Platforms (13 Stations)

29: Milano Porta Romana
29: Moscow Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya
29: Paris Austerlitz
29: Roma Termini
28: Buenos Aires Retiro
27: Madrid Atocha
26: Leipzig Hbf (Germany)
26: London Kings Cross/St.Pancras
26: Paris Lyon
26: Tokyo Ikebukuro
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
25: Sydney Central
25: Tokyo Ueno

20-25 Platforms (17 Stations):

24: Beijing South
24: Cape Town (South Africa)
24: Kyoto
24: London Euston
24: Madrid Chamartín
24: Milano Stazione Centrale
24: Osaka Tennoji
23: Calcutta Howrah
23: London Victoria
22: Brussels South
22: London Liverpool Street
22: Omiya (Saitama)
22: Washington DC Union Station
21: New York Penn Station
21: Tokyo Shinagawa
20: Buenos Aires Constitucion
20: London Paddington
20: Milano Porta Garibaldi

15-19 Platforms (36 Stations)

19: Budapest Nyugati Pályaudvar (Hungary)
19: Helsinki Central
19: London Bridge (London)
19: Lyon Perrache
19: Oslo Central
19: Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof
18: Basel SBB & Basel SNCF
18: Beijing West
18: Edinburgh Waverley (Scotland, UK)
18: Marseilles Saint Charles (France)
17: Buenos Aires Once
17: Dortmund Hbf (Germany)
17: Hoboken Terminal (NJ/USA)
17: Leeds City (UK)
17: Moscow Kazanskiy
17: Napoli Centrale (Italy)
17: Shin-Osaka (Osaka)
17: Yokohama
16: Bern Central
16: Calcutta Sealdah
16: Dresden Hauptbahnhof
16: Durban (South Africa)
16: Düsseldorf Hbf (Germany)
16: Glasgow Central (Scotland, UK)
16: Hamburg Hauptbahnhof
16: Lille Flandres
16: London Charing Cross/Embankment
15: London Stratford
16: New Delhi
16: New York Atlantic Terminal
16: Ogilvie (Chicago)
16: Sendai
15: Brussels Schaerbeek (Belgium)
15: Melbourne Southern Cross
15: Moscow Kurskiy
15: Porto Campanhã (Portugal)
15: Rotterdam Centraal (Netherlands)

10-14 Platforms (62 Stations)

14: Antwerpen Centraal Station (Belgium)
14: Barcelona Estacio de França (Spain)
14: Beijing Central
14: Berlin Lehrter Hauptbahnhof
14: Chiba
14: Karlsruhe Hauptbahnhof (Germany)
14: Luzern (terminal)
14: Manchester Piccadilly
14: Gare Centrale de Montréal (Canada)
14: München Ostbahnhof
14: Odawara (Japan)
14: Philadelphia 30th Street Station (PA/US)
14: Tokyo Kita-senju
14: Tokyo Shibuya
14: Tokyo Shimbashi
14: Utrecht Centraal (Netherlands)
14: Toronto Union Station (Canada)
13: Greco-Bicocca (Milan)
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
13: Amsterdam Centraal
13: Essen Hbf (Germany)
13: Halle (Saale) Hbf (Germany)
13: Budapest Keleti Pályaudvar (Hungary)
12: Barcelona Sants (Spain)
12: Birmingham New Street (UK)
12: Brussels North
12: Budapest Déli Pályaudvar (Hungary)
12: Chicago Millenium
12: Den Haag Centraal
12: Duisburg Hbf (Germany)
12: Hamburg-Altona (Germany)
12: Lyon Part Dieu (France)
12: Moscow Kievskiy
12: Nagoya Kanayama (Japan)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Reading (UK)
12: Seville Santa Justa (Spain)
12: Yokohama Ofuna
11: Beijing North
11: Berlin Ostbahnhof
11: Cape Town Bellville (South-Africa)
11: Darmstadt Hbf (Germany)
11: Frankfurt Südbahnhof
11: Köln Hbf
11: Milano Porta Genova
11: Moscow Paveletskiy
11: Moscow Belarusskiy
11: Nürnberg Hbf
11: Secunderabad (India)
10: Amsterdam Sloterdijk
10: Antwerpen Berchem (Belgium)
10: Bangalore (India)
10: Berlin Nordkreuz/Gesundbrunnen
10: Brisbane Roma St
10: Buenos Aires Federico Lacroze
10: Köln Messe/Deutz
10: London Moorgate
10: Ludwigshafen (Rhein) Hbf (Germany)
10: Madrid Principe Pío
10: Milano Cadorna F.N.M.
10: Olten (Switerland)
10: Tokyo Iidabashi

City Totals for Main Terminii

213: Paris (France)
202: London (UK)
190: Tokyo (Japan)
97: Milan (Italy)
95: Moscow (Russia)
89: New York (USA)
75: Buenos Aires (Argentina)
74: Osaka (Japan)
67: Beijing (China)
61: Madrid (Spain)
58: Chicago (USA)
53: Munich (Germany)
49: Brussels (Belgium)
44: Budapest (Hungary)
43: Frankfurt (Germany)
43: Nagoya (Japan)
39: Calcutta (Kolkutta) (India)
35: Berlin (Germany)
35: Cape Town (South Africa)
31: Lyon (France)
29: Yokohama (Japan)
28: Barcelona (Spain)
28: Hamburg (Germany)
28: Melbourne (Australia)
26: Leipzig (Germany)
26: Zürich (Switzerland)
25: Glasgow (Scotland, UK)
25: Sydney (Australia)
24: Antwerpen (Belgium)
23: Amsterdam (Netherlands)
22: Washington DC (USA)
21: Köln (Cologne) (Germany)
19: Helsinki (Finland)
19: Oslo (Norway)
19: Stuttgart (Germany)
18: Basel (Switzerland)
18: Edinburgh (Scotland, UK)
18: Marseilles (France)
17: Dortmund (Germany)
17: Hoboken (NJ/USA)
17: Leeds (UK)
17: Napoli (Italy)
16: Bern (Switzerland)
16: Dresden (Germany)
16: Durban (South Africa)
16: Düsseldorf (Germany)
16: Lille (France)
16: New Delhi (India)
15: Porto (Portugal)
15: Rotterdam (Netherlands)
14: Chiba (Japan)
14: Karlsruhe (Germany)
14: Luzern (Switzerland)
14: Manchester (UK)
14: Montréal (Canada)
14: Odawara (Japan)
14: Toronto (Canada)
14: Utrecht (Netherlands)
13: Essen (Germany)
13: Halle (Germany)
12: Birmingham (UK)
12: Den Haag (The Hague) (Netherlands)
12: Duisburg (Germany)
12: Nagoya (Japan)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Reading (UK)
12: Seville (Spain)
12: Yokohama (Japan)
11: Darmstadt (Germany)
11: Nürnberg (Nurenberg)
11: Secunderabad (India)
10: Bangalore (India)
10: Brisbane (Australia)
10: Ludwigshafen (Germany)
10: Olten (Switzerland)

Notes:
- Newark station not included - station too small without PATH/Subway)
- Hoboken station not included - how many platforms does it have exactly?)
- New Delhi included with 16 platforms - how many platforms does it have exactly? What is this with Old Delhi station?
- Barcelona Sants was twice on the list - kept entry with 12 platforms, removed entry with 14 platforms. But what is the correct number?
- Subtracted subway platforms from NY Penn Station.

Roma Termini, for example...:bash:

city_thing
January 17th, 2010, 01:56 AM
Sydney's Central Station.

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8047/pb070251.jpg
(Picture originally posted by Fabian in the Ozscrapers Forum)

And the gigantic old flip-board, that's no kept in the Sydney Powerhouse Museum.

http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/BOSImages/Series/0017/420/Items/0222/499/17420_a014_a014000287.jpg

OperateOnMe
January 18th, 2010, 10:45 PM
Bringing the counting from the last page:

Edited info in RED:

City Totals for Main Terminii

213: Paris (France)
202: London (UK)
190: Tokyo (Japan)
97: Milan (Italy)
95: Moscow (Russia)
89: New York (USA)
75: Buenos Aires (Argentina)
74: Osaka (Japan)
67: Beijing (China)
61: Madrid (Spain)
58: Chicago (USA)
53: Munich (Germany)
49: Brussels (Belgium)
44: Budapest (Hungary)
43: Frankfurt (Germany)
43: Nagoya (Japan)
39: Calcutta (Kolkutta) (India)
35: Berlin (Germany)
35: Cape Town (South Africa)
35: Lisboa (Portugal , +13 metro)
31: Lyon (France)
29: Yokohama (Japan)
28: Barcelona (Spain)
28: Hamburg (Germany)
28: Melbourne (Australia)
26: Leipzig (Germany)
26: Zürich (Switzerland)
25: Glasgow (Scotland, UK)
25: Sydney (Australia)
24: Antwerpen (Belgium)
23: Amsterdam (Netherlands)
22: Washington DC (USA)
21: Köln (Cologne) (Germany)
21: Porto (Portugal +4 metro/LRT)
19: Helsinki (Finland)
19: Oslo (Norway)
19: Stuttgart (Germany)
18: Basel (Switzerland)
18: Edinburgh (Scotland, UK)
18: Birmingham (UK)
18: Marseilles (France)
17: Dortmund (Germany)
17: Hoboken (NJ/USA)
17: Leeds (UK)
17: Napoli (Italy)
16: Bern (Switzerland)
16: Dresden (Germany)
16: Durban (South Africa)
16: Düsseldorf (Germany)
16: Lille (France)
16: New Delhi (India)
15: Rotterdam (Netherlands)
14: Chiba (Japan)
14: Karlsruhe (Germany)
14: Luzern (Switzerland)
14: Manchester (UK)
14: Montréal (Canada)
14: Odawara (Japan)
14: Toronto (Canada)
14: Utrecht (Netherlands)
13: Essen (Germany)
13: Halle (Germany)
12: Den Haag (The Hague) (Netherlands)
12: Duisburg (Germany)
12: Nagoya (Japan)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Reading (UK)
12: Seville (Spain)
12: Yokohama (Japan)
11: Darmstadt (Germany)
11: Nürnberg (Nurenberg)
11: Secunderabad (India)
10: Bangalore (India)
10: Brisbane (Australia)
10: Ludwigshafen (Germany)
10: Olten (Switzerland)


Birmingham City Centre actually has currently 18 main intercity platforms not 12 (obviously excluding metro, with New Street 13, Snow Hill 3, Moor Street 2 soon to become 4, there are actually five city centre stations but only three are intercity/national)

If Birmingham Grand Central gets the go-ahead and Moor Street becomes part of Birmingham Grand Central, the city will have 29 national platforms within the next ten years (New Street 13, Snow Hill 6, Grand Central ~10).

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=929492&page=4
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1017523

Just wondering with some of the other cities, is that including local/regional rail? If so it would give London a ridiculous number of platforms and UK cities like Birmingham and Liverpool a lot more too

AndreiB
January 20th, 2010, 12:06 AM
Bucharest main station, Gara de Nord (North Train Station) has 14 lines and 8 platforms, but I presume you are counting lines, since Newcastle's Central Station does not have more lines than Bucharest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gara_de_Nord (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gara_de_Nord)

OperateOnMe
January 20th, 2010, 12:33 AM
Bucharest main station, Gara de Nord (North Train Station) has 14 lines and 8 platforms, but I presume you are counting lines, since Newcastle's Central Station does not have more lines than Bucharest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gara_de_Nord (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gara_de_Nord)

I'm not sure about that comment Andrei, It should be noted I've not been to Newcastle but it supposedly does have 12 platforms.
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations/NCL.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_railway_station

I was under the impression it was actual physical platforms and not lines.
Counting lines would be silly, as London would run into almost a thousand

In term's of busiest (this thread) I'm under the impression Clapham Common, London is the busiest train station in Europe, and Shinjuku Station, Tokyo is the world's busiest station.
I'm sure sooner or later China will get in there with the World's Largest :-)

sotavento
January 20th, 2010, 01:31 AM
Bucharest main station, Gara de Nord (North Train Station) has 14 lines and 8 platforms, but I presume you are counting lines, since Newcastle's Central Station does not have more lines than Bucharest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gara_de_Nord (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gara_de_Nord)

By platforms they mean the sides of each platform adjacent to the railway tracks ... so Nord has not 8 but 14 platforms.

2 platforms in each extremity
12 (6x2) platforms in the intermediate piers.

:cheers:

heres a picture:
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ro/station/Bucuresti/Nord/tracks/Buc_Nord.jpg

Blue raven
January 20th, 2010, 02:49 AM
Using Google satellite pics, Shanghai central and Shanghai South both have got 6 physical platforms and it looks like they're all island platforms so I assume that Shanghai has got a combined total of 24 (there's a large chance I'm wrong, though). Hongqiao station is opening this year, and apparently it's really big, so I assume the number will increase quite a bit.

Shezan
January 20th, 2010, 03:46 AM
Guangzhou South Railway Station is so impressive :uh:

LUCAFUSAR
January 20th, 2010, 09:09 AM
Edited info in RED:

City Totals for Main Terminii

213: Paris (France)
202: London (UK)
190: Tokyo (Japan)
150: Rome (Italy)
120: Milan (Italy)
95: Moscow (Russia)
89: New York (USA)
75: Buenos Aires (Argentina)
74: Osaka (Japan)
67: Beijing (China)
61: Madrid (Spain)
58: Chicago (USA)
53: Munich (Germany)
49: Brussels (Belgium)
44: Budapest (Hungary)
43: Frankfurt (Germany)
43: Nagoya (Japan)
39: Calcutta (Kolkutta) (India)
35: Berlin (Germany)
35: Cape Town (South Africa)
35: Lisboa (Portugal , +13 metro)
31: Lyon (France)
29: Yokohama (Japan)
28: Barcelona (Spain)
28: Hamburg (Germany)
28: Melbourne (Australia)
26: Leipzig (Germany)
26: Zürich (Switzerland)
25: Glasgow (Scotland, UK)
25: Sydney (Australia)
24: Antwerpen (Belgium)
23: Amsterdam (Netherlands)
22: Washington DC (USA)
21: Köln (Cologne) (Germany)
21: Porto (Portugal +4 metro/LRT)
19: Helsinki (Finland)
19: Oslo (Norway)
19: Stuttgart (Germany)
18: Basel (Switzerland)
18: Edinburgh (Scotland, UK)
18: Birmingham (UK)
18: Marseilles (France)
17: Dortmund (Germany)
17: Hoboken (NJ/USA)
17: Leeds (UK)
17: Napoli (Italy)
16: Bern (Switzerland)
16: Dresden (Germany)
16: Durban (South Africa)
16: Düsseldorf (Germany)
16: Lille (France)
16: New Delhi (India)
15: Rotterdam (Netherlands)
14: Chiba (Japan)
14: Karlsruhe (Germany)
14: Luzern (Switzerland)
14: Manchester (UK)
14: Montréal (Canada)
14: Odawara (Japan)
14: Toronto (Canada)
14: Utrecht (Netherlands)
13: Essen (Germany)
13: Halle (Germany)
12: Den Haag (The Hague) (Netherlands)
12: Duisburg (Germany)
12: Nagoya (Japan)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Reading (UK)
12: Seville (Spain)
12: Yokohama (Japan)
11: Darmstadt (Germany)
11: Nürnberg (Nurenberg)
11: Secunderabad (India)
10: Bangalore (India)
10: Brisbane (Australia)
10: Ludwigshafen (Germany)
10: Olten (Switzerland)

sotavento
January 24th, 2010, 04:39 AM
Edited info in RED:

City Totals for Main Terminii

ROME = 41 (29+12) ???
Roma Termini = 29 platforms
Roma Ostiense = 15 platforms ... is it a terminal or main hub of any services ???
Roma Porta San Paolo = 6 platforms (terminal comuter station?)
Roma Tiburtina = 12 platforms under redevelopmentto receive trought-running HSR ???

NAPLES = 25
Napoli Centrale = 25 platforms

SALERNO = 10 platforms

Bologna Centrale = 20 tracks

GENOVA = 29
Genova Brignole = 9 platforms
Genova Piazza Principe = 20 platforms

MILAN
Milano Cadorna = 10 platforms (comuter terminus ? FNM main station ?)
Milano Centrale = 24 platforms
Milano Rogoredo = 13
Milano Lambrate = 12 platforms (comuter station ?)
Milano Porta Garibaldi = 20 platforms
Milano Certosa = 7 platforms (simply a large outer comuter station ???)

TURIN = 26 (there seems to be more)
Torino Porta Nuova = 20 platforms
Torino Porta Susa sotterranea = 6 platforms

Palermo Centrale = 10 platforms

Pisa Centrale = 12 platforms

FIRENZE = 37
Firenze Campo di Marte = 9 platforms
Firenze Rifredi = 9 platforms
Firenze Santa Maria Novella = 19 platforms


Someone (not me:ohno:) will ahve a hardtime updatingthe listings. :lol::ohno:

WatcherZero
January 24th, 2010, 09:08 AM
Manchester Piccadilly has 14 platforms +2 Metrolink platforms, Manchester Victoria has (in service) 8 platforms + 2 metrolink platforms. The 6 through platforms can be used as A and B platforms for two different trains but this is rarely done at moment, 1 metrolink platform isnt in use as well because its under a leak in the roof. The station was at its peak in 1909 when it had 19 platforms and continental routes.

LUCAFUSAR
January 24th, 2010, 10:42 AM
ROME = 41 (29+12) ???
Roma Termini = 29 platforms

...

Someone (not me:ohno:) will ahve a hardtime updatingthe listings. :lol::ohno:

The totals for Milano and Roma refers respectively to Centrale and Termini stations only.:)

sotavento
January 26th, 2010, 02:13 AM
The totals for Milano and Roma refers respectively to Centrale and Termini stations only.:)

that'swhy I'm asking this ... Ionly found those (browsing the italian wiki). :cheers:


We need to get a propper meaning for termini and centrale stations ... and I don't even mean those counting the tube/subway/metro platforms ... some people are clearly leaving a lot of realestate unacounted while others are counting even counting the tram sidings(nevermind tram platforms). :lol:


Lisboa has 1x central (Entrecampos) , 1x International mainline (would be called central if it were not in the periphery of town) and 5 termini (2 are actually pass-thru but services terminate there) stations.
Our biggest station (the min station at Oriente) only packs 8 platforms preciselly because there is a termini station everywhere around the city. :dunno:

Others just have Whatever Termini with 20 o more tracks (like most of the italian biggest cities) and no other mainstation.


Off-the-record: Numbers for Turin , Rome and Milano seem to be a little hard to decipher from the italian wiki.

sotavento
January 26th, 2010, 02:14 AM
Manchester Piccadilly has 14 platforms +2 Metrolink platforms, Manchester Victoria has (in service) 8 platforms + 2 metrolink platforms. The 6 through platforms can be used as A and B platforms for two different trains but this is rarely done at moment, 1 metrolink platform isnt in use as well because its under a leak in the roof. The station was at its peak in 1909 when it had 19 platforms and continental routes.

Add manchester airport to your counting ... don't forget that. :ohno:

WatcherZero
January 26th, 2010, 05:01 AM
I thought this was only about terminals? Then Manchester has really only two, Victoria and Piccadilly in the centre. It does however have several smaller stations within walking distance of each other in the city centre too if you want to know of everything, Manchester Oxford Road 5, Deansgate 2 +2 Metrolink, Salford Central 2, Salford Crescent 2.

Manchester Airport is about 30 minutes from the centre and is 3 platforms terminal with two metrolink platforms by 2016. Piccadilly will also see a major capacity improvement as part of the Manchester Hub project with the report on proposals due this month, possibilities include making a resting bay open to passengers (Platform 0) for airport services running late and adding two more through platforms (15 and 16).

sotavento
January 26th, 2010, 05:28 AM
Last time Iwent to manchester I boarded a transpenine train Train bound to ManchesterAirport rail station ... so I think that main line stations at the airports also count if they are located inside the city.


I only count:


Mainline central stations (doesn't matter if they are termini or otherwise, it's the main station seving the city and that's it)
Main interchange comuter stations ??? only if they are really THAT BIG
Terminal stations (even if they only serve comuter traffic)

Example (again I ramble about lisboa):

Entrecampos station is the main central station servig the city (somewhere between 150.000/200.000 daily passengers).
It sits in the midde of a 4 track section of the ring road (wich actually passes downtown and not in the outskirts of the city) and instead they placed 8 tracks (two of them are in a westward extension of the northern platforms) so we get this:

Western side:

passing mainline sinta-oriente (line 4)
stopping sintra-oriente line5 + platform5
[platforms 5/6]
stopping oriente-sintra line6 + platform6
passing mainline oriente-sintra (line3)
passing mainline campolide-oriente (line 2)
stopping campolide-oriente line7 (siding)
[empty space where an aditional platform could be erected]
stopping oriente-campolide line8 (siding)
passing mainline oriente-campolide (line1)

Eastern side:
passing mainline sinta-oriente (line 4) + platform4
[platforms 3/4]
passing mainline oriente-sintra (line3) + platform 3
passing mainline campolide-oriente (line 2) + platform 2
[platform 1/2]
passing mainline oriente-campolide (line1) + platform 1

both the sidings 7/8 and lines 5/6 have direct connections to the adjoining main linewith points at each side ... platforms 5/6 and 3/4 are connectedthru a 100m long passage an are not actually the same platform divided in half.

during rush hour theres always at least one train exiting or arriving at the station at any time ... frequencies are well under 1 minute ... and you can se as much comuter traffic as the nexttrain arriving in your platform could be a freighter or even a Pendolino/Intercity.

^^ it would be a nightmare to route this traffic into a termini station ... one minute you get 3000 people trying to board an 8 car doubledeck commuter and the next train could be either a freighter , a 2 car DMU or the 7 car intercity that will take you into your calm weekend in granmas ... the next one is another 3000 souls comuter and even before your boarded your train most of them are already there. :nuts:

If one would only take a look at the station itselfand overlook the numbersit would be certainly mistaken for a simple comuter station in the outer suburbia ... stations like this are replacing all other older multi platform stations everywhere nowadays. :dunno:

Rohne
January 26th, 2010, 07:23 PM
As for the city totals, stations with less than 10 tracks should be included, too. I.e. city A has only 1 station but with 14 tracks, while city B has 4 stations with 6-9 tracks each (and 1 station with 11 tracks, just to appear in the list at all ;) ). So A would appear above B while city total of B in reality definitely is higher than A's.

Stations to include for the city totals:
München-Pasing - 9 platforms => Munich = 62
Frankfurt-Flughafen (Airport) - 7 platforms => Frankfurt = 50

Not sure about Frankfurt-Höchst (12 platforms, only 10 in use), as it's a hub and terminus for regional trains, but no long distance trains stop there.

sotavento
January 27th, 2010, 04:16 AM
As for the city totals, stations with less than 10 tracks should be included, too. I.e. city A has only 1 station but with 14 tracks, while city B has 4 stations with 6-9 tracks each (and 1 station with 11 tracks, just to appear in the list at all ;) ). So A would appear above B while city total of B in reality definitely is higher than A's.

Stations to include for the city totals:
München-Pasing - 9 platforms => Munich = 62
Frankfurt-Flughafen (Airport) - 7 platforms => Frankfurt = 50

Not sure about Frankfurt-Höchst (12 platforms, only 10 in use), as it's a hub and terminus for regional trains, but no long distance trains stop there.

Case 1)
The city in question has a termini/mainline/international/main/central station with X tracks/platforms (if 10 more then we include it into the station list)

Case 2)
the city has a mainstation with LESS than 10 tracks ... up untill now nobody bothered to include them in the list. :lol:

Case 3)
a city has more than one main station ... total number of platforms of all termini/mainline/international/main/central stations are added to the City totals.

Case 4)
A city has aditional stations (other than the main stations) ... nobody cares about these.



^^ Now this seems to simplify the matter .. or not! :lol:

Timetable
April 23rd, 2010, 06:29 PM
Hello,

It's the first time I see this interesting thread.
The list is giving Nürnberg Hbf only 11 platforms, but that is wrong!
It should be 22!
(See http://www.sporenplan.nl/)

NorthaBmore
April 24th, 2010, 06:09 PM
Some pictures of NYC's main railway stations:
PENN STATION (ABOUT 65 MILLION ANNUAL PASSENGERS
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/PennStation.jpg
GRAND CENTRAL STATION (ABOUT 45 MILLION ANNUAL PASSENGERS)
http://ic2.pbase.com/o4/64/556764/1/53005344.metroNorthRailroadatGrandCentralNewYork_IMG.jpg
http://www.wayfaring.info/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/grand-central-station-address.jpg
ATLANTIC TERMINAL (ABOUT 9 MILLION ANNUAL PASSENGERS
http://secondavenuesagas.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/55120963.jpg
http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2004/08/08/realestate/sqft.184.1.650.jpg
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/9310/74663532.jpg
HOBOKEN TERMINAL (ABOUT 13 MILLION ANNUAL PASSENGERS
http://www.aecom.com/deployedfiles/Internet/Capabilities/Transportation/_images/transit_hoboken_mainimg.jpg

NorthaBmore
April 24th, 2010, 06:09 PM
EDIT

Yardmaster
April 25th, 2010, 06:51 PM
Nice to see this thread is still alive! (I started it!) Might need some more charts ...

This always was a diifficult subject.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/SouthernX/completed/sthx_7250.jpg

Southern Cross Melbourne has Platforms 1-16.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/SouthernX/2009/sthx0907-0045.jpg

Platforms 1 & 2 serve standard (1435 mm) gauge trains; as well as Broad gauge (1600mm): the rest is broad gauge.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/SouthernX/2009/wmb0182.jpg

Platforms 2-7 are divided into "2A" & 2B", etc. They're the same platform, but typically two trains will be lined up on them end to end. The outermost train will be scheduelled to arrive last & leave first. In some instances there are points half-way up the platform to enable the train at the rear to by-pass the train in front of it. This was sort of a measure of desperation: passenger traffic doubled here in about five years. Presumably the blue signage will eventually disappear (purple for regional/intercity, blue for metro/suburban).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/SouthernX/2009/sthx0908-0044.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/SouthernX/2009/sthx0908-0047.jpg

Platform 8 is "8A" & "8B", as above, but also, "8S", "S" indicating "South". Passengers can walk right down the platform, but trains can't, since the trains from 8S run onto a centre track between 8 and 9.

Platforms 9-14 are used (on my count) by 999 trains on a normal weekday, " suburban" or "metro" according to your fancy, which operate up to nearly 70 km outside of town. Actually a few dozen more, plus the regional trains, on 13 & 14. "Connex" have lost the contract and the system has now been rebranded "Metro Melbourne".

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/SouthernX/2008/sthx_6146.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/SouthernX/2009/sthx0908-0036.jpg

Platforms 15 & 16 are currently being constructed, to serve regional and inter-city trains.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/SouthernX/2008/sthx_6157.jpg

poshbakerloo
April 28th, 2010, 11:48 AM
My local, big rail terminal. Manchester Piccadilly...

14 Platforms +2 for metrolink.

22 Million passengers ish

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e7/Manchester_Piccadilly.squiddly.jpg/800px-Manchester_Piccadilly.squiddly.jpg

MakaWella
April 28th, 2010, 11:08 PM
Amsterdam Central Station

250.000 passengers per day, that means arround 92 milj. passenger per year.

http://www.stationsweb.com/station.asp?station=Amsterdamcs

Dahlis
April 28th, 2010, 11:44 PM
Stockholm Centralstation 24 platforms

the spliff fairy
April 29th, 2010, 01:02 AM
Guangzhou South Railway Station
http://bbs.home.news.cn/upfiles/0454DA68.002C

http://bbs.home.news.cn/upfiles/0454D9FA.002C

I think this one or Beijing West is the biggest in terms of building/ complex size

maldini
April 29th, 2010, 12:42 PM
I think this one or Beijing West is the biggest in terms of building/ complex size
Probably, Shanghai south as well.

k.k.jetcar
April 29th, 2010, 05:15 PM
28(!) platforms for high speed trains at Guangzhou South Railway Station. Now that's either overkill or the government is really optimistic on future HSR passenger growth.

Restless
May 1st, 2010, 12:05 AM
28(!) platforms for high speed trains at Guangzhou South Railway Station. Now that's either overkill or the government is really optimistic on future HSR passenger growth.

Given that they're planning for 4 railway lines to terminate at Guangzhou South, 7 platforms per railway line sounds reasonable to me.

The 4 lines are as follows:

Guangzhou-Wuhan
Guangzhou-Shenzhen
Guangzhou-Zhuhai
Guangzhou-Foshan

I(L)WTC
May 1st, 2010, 04:46 AM
Retiro Station
entrance
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Buenos_Aires_-_Retiro_-_Estaci%C3%B3n_Retiro.jpg/800px-Buenos_Aires_-_Retiro_-_Estaci%C3%B3n_Retiro.jpg
http://www.engrande.com/photos/map_poi/retiro-station-380.jpg
http://www.turismo.com.ar/images/Retiro.jpg
http://www.rochester-hotel.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/retiro-trenes.jpg

maldini
May 1st, 2010, 05:57 AM
Given that they're planning for 4 railway lines to terminate at Guangzhou South, 7 platforms per railway line sounds reasonable to me.

The 4 lines are as follows:

Guangzhou-Wuhan
Guangzhou-Shenzhen
Guangzhou-Zhuhai
Guangzhou-Foshan
Is that enough? There will more new lines to the western provinces.

maldini
May 1st, 2010, 06:00 AM
Beijing South station

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/images/attachement/jpg/site1/20080612/0013729e4ad909bad50717.jpg

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/images/attachement/jpg/site1/20080612/0013729e4ad909bad50718.jpg

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/images/attachement/jpg/site1/20080612/0013729e4ad909bad50819.jpg

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/images/attachement/jpg/site1/20080612/0013729e4ad909bad5081a.jpg

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/images/attachement/jpg/site1/20080612/0013729e4ad909bad5081b.jpg

Scion
May 1st, 2010, 06:07 AM
Guangzhou-Wuhan will be extended to become the Guangzhou-Beijing line. The South East Coastal line (Shanghai-Shenzhen) will also be extended to terminate in Guangzhou South.

There's also the Guangzhou-Chengdu via Guiyang line plus the Guangzhou-Nanning-SE Asia line on the drawing board.

maldini
May 1st, 2010, 06:54 AM
Changsha Station

http://bbs.hasea.com/attachments/month_1002/forumid_29/20100204_32a6397ff89844f0113cm8D6GvMeV03e.jpg

sotavento
May 1st, 2010, 12:35 PM
Birmingham City Centre actually has currently 18 main intercity platforms not 12 (obviously excluding metro, with New Street 13, Snow Hill 3, Moor Street 2 soon to become 4, there are actually five city centre stations but only three are intercity/national)

If Birmingham Grand Central gets the go-ahead and Moor Street becomes part of Birmingham Grand Central, the city will have 29 national platforms within the next ten years (New Street 13, Snow Hill 6, Grand Central ~10).

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=929492&page=4
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1017523

Just wondering with some of the other cities, is that including local/regional rail? If so it would give London a ridiculous number of platforms and UK cities like Birmingham and Liverpool a lot more too

Termini = stations in wich train services START/TERMINATE (it can be a single halt with 1 track and 1 platform)
Central = main stations that serve as hubs in a great scale ...

^^ Platforms at "simple" comuter rail stations are not counted in the grand total per city. :cheers:



sidenote: Cities like London , Lisboa and some others have that thing special to them ... lot's and lot's of terminal stations. :bash:

toddhubert
May 1st, 2010, 04:37 PM
Given that they're planning for 4 railway lines to terminate at Guangzhou South, 7 platforms per railway line sounds reasonable to me.

The 4 lines are as follows:

Guangzhou-Wuhan
Guangzhou-Shenzhen
Guangzhou-Zhuhai
Guangzhou-Foshan

that will count just a tiny part of the passenger flow, once the HSR network is formed, u can take high speed train to most cities in China

Yardmaster
April 10th, 2011, 11:07 PM
Good to see this thread is still alive, & stations are soaring along ....

Getting back to the original substance of this thread here, how many platforms is this?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/SouthernX/2011/img1104-0014m.jpg

What you see is all "Platform 8" at Southern Cross Melbourne: 8A, 8B, or 8S.

There is a train waiting at "8B", apparently about 170m from me, which, after I took this photo, a woman who then consulted me scuttled off to in a state of mild panic.

8A- 8B- 8S. Are these three platforms, two, or one? Clearly "8A" is not a long platform, but you can see from the glint on the rails that it operates independently of 8B, where the train is waiting. "8S" (South) is another matter, since, while it is possible to wander from 8S to 8A and 8B without crossing any tracks, 8S actually has a "road" of it's own ( the middle track between 8 & 9 , next on the left). 8S, from the point of view of the track, doesn't really have any relationship to 8A&B at all: except?

A view from the other end: 8S actually extend way past the dark in the background.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/SouthernX/2011/img1104-0011m.jpg

Svartmetall
April 11th, 2011, 02:35 AM
^^ Lots of European train stations have different platform sections too, it's quite normal in that part of the world for people to be directed to platform 9B for a train for example. It is still counted as one platform.

foxmulder
April 11th, 2011, 05:52 AM
I think this one or Beijing West is the biggest in terms of building/ complex size

I dont know whether it is the biggest one but for sure it is the best looking one, especially when you consider whole thing is elevated...

Yardmaster
April 12th, 2011, 10:39 PM
^^ Lots of European train stations have different platform sections too, it's quite normal in that part of the world for people to be directed to platform 9B for a train for example. It is still counted as one platform.

Fair comment.

In dredging up the start of this thread, however, there seemed to be some confusion between the no. of places where people could stand, & the no. places where trains could simultaneously wait (and independently arrive or depart) in regard to the definition of a platform.

sotavento
April 14th, 2011, 05:05 AM
^^ Lots of European train stations have different platform sections too, it's quite normal in that part of the world for people to be directed to platform 9B for a train for example. It is still counted as one platform.

That depends.


8A and 8B are segments of the same platform

8S can be just another segment of that same platform or it can be a completely different platform

:dunno:




Heres an example:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2733/4388433514_8779b1f793.jpg

Entrecampos station in lisboa(portugal)

The main area of the station has 4 tracks with 4 platforms

t1 [p1-p2] t2 t3 [p3-p4] t4

The western area of the station has 8 tracks with 2 platforms

t1 (t5 t6) t2 t3 (t7) [p 3p-p 4p] (t8) t4



In reality platforms 3 and 3p , 4 and 4p are diferent platforms in diferent tracks (separated by a 100km long "enclosed passage")




The "mains" over to the east are t1 t2 t3 t4 , but to the west are t7(pl 3p) , t3 t2 and t1 so it gets a little confusing ... :dunno:

Silly_Walks
April 14th, 2011, 11:30 AM
That depends.


8A and 8B are segments of the same platform

8S can be just another segment of that same platform or it can be a completely different platform

:dunno:




Heres an example:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2733/4388433514_8779b1f793.jpg

Entrecampos station in lisboa(portugal)

The main area of the station has 4 tracks with 4 platforms

t1 [p1-p2] t2 t3 [p3-p4] t4

The western area of the station has 8 tracks with 2 platforms

t1 (t5 t6) t2 t3 (t7) [p 3p-p 4p] (t8) t4



In reality platforms 3 and 3p , 4 and 4p are diferent platforms in diferent tracks (separated by a 100km long "enclosed passage")




The "mains" over to the east are t1 t2 t3 t4 , but to the west are t7(pl 3p) , t3 t2 and t1 so it gets a little confusing ... :dunno:

A little? My brain just exploded :nuts:


By the way, where does the passage go that it is that long? Is there no train service along it?

Yardmaster
April 14th, 2011, 07:48 PM
It is a bit complicated. Why the "tunnel" in the background?

earthJoker
April 16th, 2011, 07:58 AM
In reality platforms 3 and 3p , 4 and 4p are diferent platforms in diferent tracks (separated by a 100km long "enclosed passage")


Looks more like 100m to me ;)