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Yardmaster April 24th, 2006, 10:31 AM I'd like to know which railway terminus has the most platforms, and which city has the greatest aggregate number of platforms at its railway terminii. Figures for the number of passengers per day or per annum would also be appreciated.
I would be particularly interested in data from London, Paris, Moscow, Tokyo, Mumbai, New York ... & Chicago! :)
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My city- Melbourne Australia- has 16 platforms at its Central terminal (Southern Cross Station). However, two have yet to be commisioned, and six are used chiefly by suburban through traffic. At least one (and perhaps several more) platforms might be added due to over-long platforms with points/switches in the middle enabling two or more trains to independently arrive & depart from the same platform (e.g. Platform 8, 8 South, 8 North).
The other central city station- Flinders St. - at one time had 16 platforms, but has now lost at least three of them. However, six tracks feed through to Southern Cross. Suburban trains originate and terminate here, so for Melbourne as a whole I'd add the 13 at Flnders St. to the 9 terminal platforms at Southern Cross giving a total of 22.
For passenger throughput, my figures are old, but about 6 million "inter-urban", "inter-city" and "inter-state" passengers per year, and about 150 million suburban passengers. Suburban passenger figures are particularly difficult to estimate, since the ticketing system is inter-modal, and a single daily ticket might purchase a couple of train trips, a couple of tram trips and a couple of bus trips as well. Also lots of people don't validate their tickets (and get away with it).
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I only discovered this part of SSC today and almost contributed to another thread only to find it had been closed, and another was in danger of meeting the same fate!
I am sure there are people out there only too willing to contribute here!
Frungy April 24th, 2006, 11:34 AM Grand Central Terminal in New York City has 67 tracks on 44 platforms, making it the largest by number of tracks (according to Wikipedia). It is a deadend terminal- trains can't continue onward.
Most JR stations in Tokyo are through-terminals, in that trains continue onwards. Shinjuku is the most famous, with 34,600,000 daily boardings/alightings (counting doubles if one transfers to another railway company here), making it the busiest station in the world.
33 tracks, 25 platforms
2 tracks for Chuo/Sobu local line
4 tracks for Chuo rapid line
2 tracks for Chuo limited express line (terminus)
2 tracks for Yamanote loop line
4 tracks for Saikyo/Shonan Shinjuku line
3 tracks for Odakyu limited express and express line (terminus)
2 tracks for Odakyu local line (terminus)
3 tracks for Keio line (terminus)
2 tracks for Keio/Toei Shinjuku subway line
3 tracks for Seibu Shinjuku line (terminus)
2 tracks for Marunouchi subway line
2 tracks for Toei Oedo subway line (south exit)
2 tracks for Toei Oedo subway line (north exit)
The other big terminal is of course Tokyo station, used by 10,500,000 daily.
26 tracks, 13 platforms
2 tracks for Chuo rapid line (terminus)
2 tracks for Yamanote loop line
2 tracks for Keihin Tohoku line
4 tracks for Tokaido line (terminus)
2 tracks for Sobu/Yokosuka rapid line
2 tracks for Keiyo line (terminus)
4 tracks for Shinkansen service north (terminus)
6 tracks for Shinkansen service south (terminus)
2 tracks for Marunouchi subway line
Note that for both stations, many of the platforms are not located in the same area- some are underground, some require a transfer.
Randwicked April 24th, 2006, 11:39 AM A lot of platforms at Grand central aren't really platforms, though, they're just sidings with stairs up to the carriages. Or they used to be that way anyway.
m@rco April 24th, 2006, 11:40 AM In Paris there are 6 terminus railway stations:
Gare du Nord: 36 platforms at ground level, 4 platforms underground (no terminus), 180 Millon/passengers/year, third railway station in the world (?)
http://photoenligne.free.fr/ParisX/GareduNord/D9849.jpg
http://photoenligne.free.fr/ParisX/GareduNord/D15192.jpg
Gare St Lazare: 27 platforms at ground level, 100 Millon/passengers/year
http://photoenligne.free.fr/ParisVIII/GareStLazare/D13927.jpg
http://photoenligne.free.fr/ParisVIII/GareStLazare/D1106.jpg
Gare de Lyon: 18 platforms at ground level, 4 platforms underground (no terminus), 83 Millon/passengers/year
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/97/Paris_GareDeLyon_FacadeEtTourDeLHorloge.JPG/754px-Paris_GareDeLyon_FacadeEtTourDeLHorloge.JPG
http://photoenligne.free.fr/ParisXII/GaredeLyon/D5711.jpg
Gare Montparnasse: 28 platforms at ground level, 50 Millon/passengers/year
http://photoenligne.free.fr/ParisXV/GareMontparnasse/D12773.jpg
http://photoenligne.free.fr/ParisXV/GareMontparnasse/N5034.jpg
Gare de l'Est: 30 platforms at ground level, 34 Millon/passengers/year
http://photoenligne.free.fr/ParisX/GaredelEst/D1188.jpg
Gare d'Austerlitz: 21 platforms at ground level, 4 platforms underground (no terminus), 25 Millon/passengers/year
http://photoenligne.free.fr/ParisXIII/GaredAusterlitz/N15482.jpg
Vapour April 24th, 2006, 11:53 AM Frungy, I understand you are not a big fan of 万 figures, am I wrong? ;)
ChicagoSkyline April 24th, 2006, 12:03 PM ^^^
I would say that Paris passenger rail terminals look quite large from those pics!
:runaway:
ChicagoSkyline April 24th, 2006, 12:04 PM I think that the largest pssenger rail terminals probabily between Tokyo and NYC. For the busiest, it is gotta be Tokyo!
I think that Chicago Union Station passenger rail terminals has no where around that can be associated with the expressions like "largest" & "busiest" YET, IMHO! :)
Tintin27 April 24th, 2006, 12:09 PM The Train terminus in India are quite busy handling a lot of passengers.. I dont know about place like Delhi which has three terminuses and one huge terminus is u/c . As for my city Kolkata (calcutta), there are two terminuses
Sealdah : 16 platforms handling about 1 million/DAY
Howrah : 23 platforms handling close to 1 millon /DAY
I dont know the stats of Mumbai but there are quite a few terminuses with the main one being Mumbai CST or Victoria Terminus which handles close to kolkata terminuses..
Vapour April 24th, 2006, 12:18 PM According to the figures you get in this pdf http://www.train-media.net/report/0511/joukou_2004.pdf
(Japanese) and in the Japanese version of the wikipedia, these are Japan's (and many of the world's) busiest stations:
(transfer passengers counted twice. Due to through-services and tranfers I understand getting the exact figure gets complicated)
1 Shinjuku, Tokyo 3,458,000 daily passengers (10 lines served by 7 railway companies)
2 Ikebukuro, Tokyo 2,654,000
3 Shibuya, Tokyo 2.459.000
4 Osaka/Umeda, Osaka 2,239,000
5 Yokohama 1,815,000
Other sources place Osaka/Umeda at number 2, who knows...
Yardmaster April 24th, 2006, 12:19 PM Thanks guys ... I look forward to postings from London & Moscow. Great photos of the Paris stations, and thanks, Frungy for the detailed breakdown of traffic.
I was aware that Grand Central NY had a huge number of platforms, but only 4 tracks leading out to the north? Are they all (of the 44) in use? How about Pennsylvania Station NY?
Flinders St. Station Melbourne was at one time claimed the title "busiest station in the world" since at that time it had over 2000 train movements per day (and I'm sure still has at least as many), but apart from anything else, at the time this would have begged the question re. what was a train and what was a "metro" or whatever.
[Edit] ... thanks also to those who posted while i was posting ....
eulogy April 24th, 2006, 12:28 PM While it's not the largest and definitely not the busiest, Sydney's Central station is pretty big.
It has 25 platforms altogether, fifteen terminating and ten through platforms.
Two of the through platforms are underground (platforms 24/25).
There are also two other platforms that have never been put into use. They are also underground and were built at the same time as the other underground platforms.
SE9 April 24th, 2006, 12:59 PM I'm not sure where London's major terminii fit into the equation, but these are the facts about the busiest stations:
Paddington
http://static.flickr.com/26/55148605_a894f90644.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/7/10926968_cf009d57db.jpg
- Platforms: 14 Overground/6 Underground
-Lines:
*Heathrow Connect
*Heathrow Express
*First Great Western (commuter)
*First Great Western (intercity)
*Bakerloo Line
*District Line
*Circle Line
*Hammersmith and City Line
- Annual Passengers entry and exit only (not including interchanging passengers): 25.262 million Overground/ 34.444 million Underground/ 60 million Total
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Victoria
http://static.flickr.com/32/100213316_027f925d2d.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/55/124477902_13befdc2ab.jpg
-Platforms: 19 Overground/4 Underground
-Lines:
*SouthEastern
*Southern
*Gatwick Express
*Circle Line
*District Line
*Victoria Line
- Annual Passenger entry and exit only (not including interchanging passengers): 61.647 million Overground/ 68.863 million Underground/130 million Total
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Kings Cross/St Pancras
http://static.flickr.com/6/11044315_2cacc09f94.jpghttp://static.flickr.com/38/87410254_1b117fb346.jpg
- Platforms: 16 Overground / 8 Underground
-Lines:
*First Capital Connect
*GNER
*Hull Trains
*Grand Central Trains
*Midland Mainline
*Circle Line
*Hammersmith & City Line
*Metropolitan Line
*Northern Line
*Victoria Line
*Picadilly Line
- Annual Passenger entry and exit only (not including interchanging passengers): 53.5 million Overground/ 77.564 million Underground/131 million Total
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Waterloo
http://static.flickr.com/47/129734642_6803a51a06.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/48/114380059_f7c7d8b212.jpg
- Platforms: 31 Overground / 5 Underground
-Lines:
*South West Trains
*Southern
*SouthEastern
*Eurostar
*Bakerloo Line
*Waterloo & City Line
*Jubilee Line
*Northern Line
- Annual Passenger entry and exit only (not including interchanging passengers): 69.131 million Overground/ 68.427 million Underground/ 7.5 Million Eurostar/ 145 million Total
I might add more later.
Yardmaster April 24th, 2006, 01:24 PM Flinders St:
Outside:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/Flinders%20St/flst4958r.jpg
Inside:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/transport/flst_2436.jpg
Southern Cross:
Outside (under Construction):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/SouthernX/1314_1057.jpg
Inside (almost finished):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/transport/sxc_3286.jpg
ChicagoSkyline April 24th, 2006, 01:28 PM ^^^
Very nice pics of London and Melbourne termianls and platforms!
BTW, this one under construction is huge! :runaway:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/SouthernX/1314_1057.jpg
coth April 24th, 2006, 07:38 PM Moscow has 9 main central stations.
Paveletskiy: 11 platforms
http://www.rzd.ru/images/viewimage.html?pi_id=6866
Kievskiy: 12
http://www.rzd.ru/images/viewimage.html?pi_id=12128
Belarusskiy: 11
http://www.rzd.ru/images/viewimage.html?pi_id=4305
Savelovskiy: 6
http://www.rzd.ru/images/viewimage.html?pi_id=4310
Rizhskiy: 5
http://www.rzd.ru/images/viewimage.html?pi_id=6869
http://www.rzd.ru/images/viewimage.html?pi_id=6327
Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya station: 29
3 Central Stations square
http://www.rzd.ru/images/viewimage.html?pi_id=2231
Leningradskiy
http://www.rzd.ru/images/viewimage.html?pi_id=2715
Yaroslavskiy
http://www.rzd.ru/images/viewimage.html?pi_id=12132
Kazanskiy: 17
(opposite on another side of 3CS square)
http://www.rzd.ru/images/viewimage.html?pi_id=12138
Kurskiy: 15
http://www.rzd.ru/images/viewimage.html?pi_id=6316
Momo1435 April 24th, 2006, 08:10 PM Leipzig Hbf
It's not the most busiest railway station in the world but it's one of the biggest in size.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/momo1435/luftbildleipzig.jpg
It's 300 meter wide and has an area of 83.640 m˛
Intercity/ICE trains, daily - 100
Regional trains/S-Bahn trains, daily - 248
Number of passengers and visitors, daily - 150.000
Shops and horeca - 140
Number of tracks - 26
Size of the platforms - 68.782 m˛
DB Automaten - 20
Parking spaces - 1.254
It's still a terminus but in 2009 the Leipzig City Tunnel will be opened, connecting Leipzig Hbf with Leipzig Bayerischen Bahnhof running under the innercity.
Yardmaster April 24th, 2006, 08:59 PM Very impressive. What about Liverpool Street & Blackfriars? What about Monteparnasse? What about Vienna? Amsterdam? Roma? And how about a photo from Tokyo?
What about Beijing?
eomer April 24th, 2006, 09:20 PM 1 Shinjuku, Tokyo 3,458,000 daily passengers (10 lines served by 7 railway companies)
That means 1,26 billion / year: that's 7 time Paris-Nord !!!
Very impressive.
Yardmaster April 24th, 2006, 09:53 PM I was going to suggest some per capita statistics here. Unfortunately my country thinks oil spurts out of a hole somewhere, connected to an endless reserve, and burning it makes no difference.
Who wins here? London? NYC? How about Wellington NZ ? or even Johannesburg?
Yardmaster April 24th, 2006, 10:12 PM Leipzig Hbf
It's not the most busiest railway station in the world but it's one of the biggest in size.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/momo1435/luftbildleipzig.jpg
It's 300 meter wide and has an area of 83.640 m˛
Intercity/ICE trains, daily - 100
Regional trains/S-Bahn trains, daily - 248
Number of passengers and visitors, daily - 150.000
Shops and horeca - 140
Number of tracks - 26
Size of the platforms - 68.782 m˛
DB Automaten - 20
Parking spaces - 1.254
It's still a terminus but in 2009 the Leipzig City Tunnel will be opened, connecting Leipzig Hbf with Leipzig Bayerischen Bahnhof running under the innercity.
Now that's a terminus !!! Probably only a handful of rail-sheds here, but the weather is much better here.
HD April 24th, 2006, 10:37 PM the central station in frankfurt is the busiest in germany and bigger than any station in paris, london or moscow
http://img271.imageshack.us/img271/8014/frankfurt8vm.jpg
(c) www.fvgffm.de
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8849/stefansteinert7ht.jpg
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/4676/stefansteinert23rk.jpg
(c) Stefan Steinert
Brice April 24th, 2006, 10:53 PM Stazione Termini in Rome is Europe's biggest station.
http://www.activitaly.it/monument/imago/62.jpg
Yardmaster April 24th, 2006, 10:57 PM Truly impressive. But is it bigger than Milwaukee?
Yardmaster April 24th, 2006, 11:04 PM the central station in frankfurt is the busiest in germany and bigger than any station in paris, london or moscow
http://img271.imageshack.us/img271/8014/frankfurt8vm.jpg
The fly-overs going out of there are truly amazing.
ChicagoSkyline April 24th, 2006, 11:47 PM The fly-overs going out of there are truly amazing.
Wow, the Frankfurt Central Station looks extreme large, but I doubt that it can be as busy as its european counterparts like London, Paris and Moscow!
Still, damn, that Central station is huge even looking from the sky!
:eek2:
HD April 24th, 2006, 11:49 PM it's certainly not busier, but it is bigger sizewise ;)
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/3032/fra7yg.jpg
a view from the roof
http://img280.imageshack.us/img280/8126/fra19mf.jpg
Yardmaster April 25th, 2006, 12:51 AM Startling! Frankfurt ain't Munich (Munchen)!
When I was younger I used to build model buildings constructed by Faller, Kibri, Volmer and Pola (?) . They're mostly in the "display cabinet" where you're meant to be displaying your china, or up-stairs in the ceiling. I recognize Frankfurt Bahnhof, even though I'm not sure I spelt it.
BenL April 25th, 2006, 01:31 AM Whilst it's not a terminal, Clapham Junction is Europe's busiest station and considered by some to be the World's busiest, if measured in terms of trains travelling through (2000 a day). It has 16 platforms and whilst only 17 million enter and exit, all the trains from Waterloo (other than the Eurostar services) and the majority of trains from Victoria travel through the station as well as some Silverlink services to west London - and there will be more when it becomes a terminal for the East London line extension.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/BenL26/clapham.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/BenL26/460003CLaphamJct0602ME-txt.jpg
Vapour April 25th, 2006, 05:54 AM Whilst it's not a terminal, Clapham Junction is Europe's busiest station and considered by some to be the World's busiest, if measured in terms of trains travelling through (2000 a day).
You mean going through but not stopping?
JR Shinjuku handles 2175 trains in & out on weekdays (I just got the figure from http://www.jreast-timetable.jp/timetable/list0866.html) But adding the private railway stations and the subway at Shinjuku, the total figure must be in the region of 4500 trains daily, probably higher. Other massive station complexes like Tokyo, Ikebukuro, Shibuya, Osaka-Umeda and Yokohama must be above 2000 trains daily for sure.
eomer April 25th, 2006, 07:38 AM Stazione Termini in Rome is Europe's biggest station.
http://www.activitaly.it/monument/imago/62.jpg
Is it really bigger than Milano-Centrale ?
Justme April 25th, 2006, 09:46 AM What a great thread Idea, here is what we have so far:
44: Grand Central (New York)
40: Gare du Nord (Paris)
36: Waterloo (London)
33: Shinjuku (Tokyo)
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahmhof
30: Gare de l'Est (Paris)
30: Tokyo Station (Tokyo)
29: Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya (Moscow)
28: Gare Montparnasse (Paris)
27: Gare St Lazare (Paris)
26: Leipzig Hauptbahnhof
25: Gare d'Austerlitz (Paris)
25: Sydney Central
24: Euston (London)
24: Kings Cross/ St Pancras (London)
23: Howrah (Calcutta)
23: Victoria (London)
22: Liverpool Street (London)
22: Gare de Lyon (Paris)
20: Paddington (London)
19: London Bridge (London)
17: Kazanskiy (Moscow)
17: Leeds City (UK)
16: Charing Cross/Embankment
16: Glasgow Central
16: Southern Cross Station (Melbourne)
16: Sealdah (Calcutta)
15: Kurskiy (Moscow)
14: Piccadilly station (Manchester)
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
12: Kievskiy (Moscow)
12: New Street (Birmingham UK)
12: Newcastle (UK)
11: Paveletskiy (Moscow)
11: Belarusskiy (Moscow)
City Totals for Main Terminus'
184: London
172: Paris
95: Moscow
66: Tokyo
44: New York
39: Calcutta
32: Frankfurt
29: Melbourne
26: Leipzig
25: Sydney
17: Leeds
16: Glasgow
14: Manchester
12: Newcastle
12: Birmingham (UK)
Now, keep in mind this is an incomplete list. More stations for New York, Tokyo and Paris I would presume. I also added a few missing London Stations, but didn't inlcude them all (Mooregate has 10 platforms, should I include this?) Natually, I havn't included any "tube" only stations in London, or Thameslink, only Terminus stations and all their platforms.
@Yardmaster, can you please confirm the Melbourne count, as I was a bit confused by how many are actual "live" platforms.
Updated: Only includes stations with over 10 platforms. (note: Kings Cross/ St Pancras is at it's current state, when renovations are completed it will have 33 platforms)
Vapour April 25th, 2006, 09:52 AM Justme, I would only include 20+ or 25+ platforms stations, otherwise your list will get endless.
Justme April 25th, 2006, 09:59 AM Justme, I would only include 20+ or 25+ platforms stations, otherwise your list will get endless.
Good point then, but 20 is way to high, afterall, the original poster couldn't have Melbourne in then. What about 10platforms as the minimum. That's a fair sized station.
coldstar April 25th, 2006, 10:14 AM Grand Central Terminal in New York City has 67 tracks on 44 platforms, making it the largest by number of tracks (according to Wikipedia). It is a deadend terminal- trains can't continue onward.
Most JR stations in Tokyo are through-terminals, in that trains continue onwards. Shinjuku is the most famous, with 34,600,000 daily boardings/alightings (counting doubles if one transfers to another railway company here), making it the busiest station in the world.
33 tracks, 25 platforms
2 tracks for Chuo/Sobu local line
4 tracks for Chuo rapid line
2 tracks for Chuo limited express line (terminus)
2 tracks for Yamanote loop line
4 tracks for Saikyo/Shonan Shinjuku line
3 tracks for Odakyu limited express and express line (terminus)
2 tracks for Odakyu local line (terminus)
3 tracks for Keio line (terminus)
2 tracks for Keio/Toei Shinjuku subway line
3 tracks for Seibu Shinjuku line (terminus)
2 tracks for Marunouchi subway line
2 tracks for Toei Oedo subway line (south exit)
2 tracks for Toei Oedo subway line (north exit)
The other big terminal is of course Tokyo station, used by 10,500,000 daily.
26 tracks, 13 platforms
2 tracks for Chuo rapid line (terminus)
2 tracks for Yamanote loop line
2 tracks for Keihin Tohoku line
4 tracks for Tokaido line (terminus)
2 tracks for Sobu/Yokosuka rapid line
2 tracks for Keiyo line (terminus)
4 tracks for Shinkansen service north (terminus)
6 tracks for Shinkansen service south (terminus)
2 tracks for Marunouchi subway line
Note that for both stations, many of the platforms are not located in the same area- some are underground, some require a transfer.
Tokyo Central Station: the number of platform is 30
and
Shinjuku Station: the number of platform is 33
Vapour April 25th, 2006, 10:15 AM The other big terminal is of course Tokyo station, used by 10,500,000 daily.
26 tracks, 13 platforms
2 tracks for Chuo rapid line (terminus)
2 tracks for Yamanote loop line
2 tracks for Keihin Tohoku line
4 tracks for Tokaido line (terminus)
2 tracks for Sobu/Yokosuka rapid line
2 tracks for Keiyo line (terminus)
4 tracks for Shinkansen service north (terminus)
6 tracks for Shinkansen service south (terminus)
2 tracks for Marunouchi subway line
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%9D%B1%E4%BA%AC%E9%A7%85 mentions 4 tracks for Keiyo line and also 4 for Sobu, making a total of 30.
Vapour April 25th, 2006, 10:17 AM @Coldstar: ぐぜん! :D
Justme April 25th, 2006, 10:59 AM Thanks Vapour, updated
Vapour April 25th, 2006, 11:48 AM ^Add these:
26: Ikebukuro (Tokyo)
14: Shibuya (Tokyo)
22: Omiya (Saitama)
More to follow
Vapour April 25th, 2006, 12:27 PM 25: Ueno (Tokyo)
24: Kyoto
21: Shinagawa (Tokyo)
17: Yokohama
16: Sendai
14: Kita-senju (Tokyo)
nick_taylor April 25th, 2006, 12:45 PM You mean going through but not stopping?
JR Shinjuku handles 2175 trains in & out on weekdays (I just got the figure from http://www.jreast-timetable.jp/timetable/list0866.html) But adding the private railway stations and the subway at Shinjuku, the total figure must be in the region of 4500 trains daily, probably higher. Other massive station complexes like Tokyo, Ikebukuro, Shibuya, Osaka-Umeda and Yokohama must be above 2000 trains daily for sure.The number of Clapham Junction is obviously debateable, but its not dead on 2,000 but above 2,000. Interestingly Clapham Junction doesn't have a tube link which is odd considering how busy the station is. Clapham Junction is simply the convergence of dozens of commuter train lines and various intercity lines.
http://mc.multimap.com/cs/blon//X21/Y70/X2110Y702S10W700H400.gif
Justme April 25th, 2006, 12:47 PM Updated Vapour, thanks!
What a great thread Idea, here is what we have so far:
44: Grand Central (New York)
40: Gare du Nord (Paris)
36: Waterloo (London)
33: Shinjuku (Tokyo)
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahmhof
30: Gare de l'Est (Paris)
30: Tokyo Station (Tokyo)
29: Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya (Moscow)
28: Gare Montparnasse (Paris)
28: Zürich Main Station
27: Gare St Lazare (Paris)
26: Leipzig Hauptbahnhof
26: Ikebukuro (Tokyo)
25: Gare d'Austerlitz (Paris)
25: Ueno (Tokyo)
25: Sydney Central
24: Euston (London)
24: Kings Cross/ St Pancras (London)
24: Kyoto
23: Howrah (Calcutta)
23: Victoria (London)
22: Liverpool Street (London)
22: Omiya (Saitama)
22: Gare de Lyon (Paris)
21: Shinagawa (Tokyo)
20: Paddington (London)
19: London Bridge (London)
17: Yokohama
17: Kazanskiy (Moscow)
17: Leeds City (UK)
16: Charing Cross/Embankment
16: Glasgow Central
16: Sendai
16: Southern Cross Station (Melbourne)
16: Sealdah (Calcutta)
15: Kurskiy (Moscow)
14: Piccadilly station (Manchester)
14: Shibuya (Tokyo)
14: Kita-senju (Tokyo)
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
12: Kievskiy (Moscow)
12: New Street (Birmingham UK)
12: Newcastle (UK)
11: Paveletskiy (Moscow)
11: Belarusskiy (Moscow)
10: Roma St (Brisbane)
City Totals for Main Terminus'
184: London
172: Paris
166: Tokyo
95: Moscow
44: New York
39: Calcutta
32: Frankfurt
29: Melbourne
28: Zürich
26: Leipzig
25: Sydney
17: Leeds
16: Glasgow
14: Manchester
12: Newcastle
12: Birmingham (UK)
10: Brisbane
@Yardmaster, can you please confirm the Melbourne count, as I was a bit confused by how many are actual "live" platforms.
Updated: Only includes stations with over 10 platforms. (note: Kings Cross/ St Pancras is at it's current state, when renovations are completed it will have 33 platforms)
goschio April 25th, 2006, 12:58 PM I am realy surprised that Melbourne is in that list. Never knew that Australia is a big railway country.
coth April 25th, 2006, 01:20 PM here is Ploschad' Trekh Vokzalov (3 Central Stations square) in Moscow
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=moscow&t=k&om=1&ll=55.775873,37.654674&spn=0.007012,0.023904
Mekky II April 25th, 2006, 01:48 PM http://www.railjournal.com/A/images/Berlin.jpg
Berlin new railway station is not inside yet, but it will be inaugurated in more that 1 month but still impressive :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Hauptbahnhof
(Berlin is regaining step by step it's title of centre of Europe...)
Justme April 25th, 2006, 02:14 PM ^ anyone know how many platforms is in the new Hauptbahnhof for Berlin? (including Regional/Long Distance, S-bahn and U-bahn?
AG April 25th, 2006, 02:17 PM How many new platforms does Berlin's new "main station" have? I've looked all over the place, and haven't found a single figure. I'm aware there's an east-west (above ground) set of lines and platforms as well as north-south axis below ground.
Edit: Beaten to by Justme.
Mekky II April 25th, 2006, 02:54 PM I got some infos with the viaduc construction :
http://www.hbf-berlin.de/site/berlin__hauptbahnhof/en/construction__project/technical__challenge/bridges/bridges.html
invincible April 25th, 2006, 03:05 PM @Yardmaster, can you please confirm the Melbourne count, as I was a bit confused by how many are actual "live" platforms.
I'm not Yardmaster, but I can tell you that 13 platforms is about right - platform 1 is 700m long but most of it is fenced off because most of it is not needed and not used. There's also platform 14 which is an extension of platform 1, but it's used very rarely. There was a platform that had its tracks removed though, I can't remember if that's been counted or not. All my trains stop at platform 6 or 7 so it doesn't concern me :P
And in the first post, as he said, there's 14 platforms that are currently operational - but some platforms are long enough and have the track and signalling to fit multiple trains. I'd count platform 8 South as a separate platform though.
Camaway April 25th, 2006, 03:36 PM To be added:
Milan Central Station
Length: 341 mt
Width: 200 mt
Height: 72 mt
24 tracks
120 million passengers per year.
http://socialisti.com/sito/archivioimg/citta/9_n.jpg
Justme April 25th, 2006, 03:39 PM ^ does that include the metro station platforms?
GNU April 25th, 2006, 04:08 PM The number of platforms certainly gives no indication at all of how busy a station is. It also doesnt give a precise indication of the size.
Many old stations have large numbers of platforms whereas modern stations usually have less platforms because they can be operated more effectively.
Vapour April 25th, 2006, 04:28 PM 30: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
24: Tennoji (Osaka)
17: Shin-Osaka (Osaka)
14: Chiba
12: Kanayama (Nagoya)
10: Iidabashi (Tokyo)
Vapour April 25th, 2006, 04:35 PM 14: Shimbashi (Tokyo)
m@rco April 25th, 2006, 04:39 PM Paris from the air and its railway stations:
http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/1929/parisgare4fk.jpg
Maps of Paris railway stations.
Gare du Nord:
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8372/garedunord4nk.jpg
Gare St Lazare:
http://img290.imageshack.us/img290/1291/garestlazare2kj.jpg
Gare de Lyon:
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1485/garedelyon3ra.jpg
Gare Montparnasse:
http://www.bonjourlafrance.com/france-trains/stations/images/gare-montparnasse-train-station.jpg
Gare de l'Est:
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6460/garedeest6vq.jpg
Gare d'Austerlitz:
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8495/gareausterlitz9ch.jpg
Vapour April 25th, 2006, 04:47 PM 14: Odawara
12: Ofuna (Yokohama)
Unsing April 25th, 2006, 05:02 PM subway included
32: Nagoya
21: Namba (Osaka)
16: Hakata (Fukuoka)
14: Sapporo
13: Kawasaki
12: Yurakucho/Hibiya (Tokyo)
12: Nagano
10: Akihabara (Tokyo)
10: Otemachi (Tokyo)
10: Nagatacho/Akasakamitsuke (Tokyo)
10: Utsunomiya
m@rco April 25th, 2006, 06:02 PM Gare de Marseille-Saint Charles: 14 platforms, 15 Millon/passengers/year (?)
http://www.bonjourlafrance.com/france-trains/stations/images/marseille-saint-charles-tgv-station.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/Garesaintcharles.jpg/800px-Garesaintcharles.jpg
http://oasis.halfmoon.jp/extphoto/fra_photo2/02-d354.jpg
http://oasis.halfmoon.jp/extphoto/fra_photo2/02-p118.jpg
Gare de Lille-Flandres (the building was the previous "Gare du Nord" in Paris): 12 platforms (To Be Confirmed), 15 Millon/passengers/year
http://www.bonjourlafrance.com/france-trains/stations/images/lille-train-stations.jpg
http://photoenligne4.free.fr/Nord/Lille/GareFlandres/N6851.jpg
http://photoenligne4.free.fr/Nord/Lille/GareFlandres/N6545.jpg
http://photoenligne4.free.fr/Nord/Lille/GareFlandres/N6535.jpg
http://photoenligne4.free.fr/Nord/Lille/GareFlandres/N6528.jpg
Unsing April 25th, 2006, 06:06 PM 17: Okayama
16: Oyama
15: Takasaki
15: Fukushima
14: Nigata
14: Morioka
13: Toyohashi
13: Koriyama
13: Shinyamaguchi (Yamaguchi)
12: Nishifunabashi (Funabashi)
12: Hiroshima (trams not included)
10: Akita
m@rco April 25th, 2006, 06:10 PM 17: Okayama
16: Oyama
15: Takasaki
15: Fukushima
14: Nigata
14: Morioka
13: Toyohashi
13: Koriyama
13: Shinyamaguchi (Yamaguchi)
12: Nishifunabashi (Funabashi)
12: Hiroshima (trams not included)
10: Akita
All these stations are terminus ?
Vapour April 25th, 2006, 06:40 PM ^Nop.
Tubeman April 25th, 2006, 07:48 PM How's about adding together the total number of terminal platforms for each city? That would be fun :D
Remember you'd have to exclude through platforms, but for London you'd be adding:
Waterloo
Victoria
Charing Cross
Blackfriars
Cannon Street
London Bridge
Fenchurch Street
Liverpool Street
Moorgate
King's Cross
St Pancras
Euston
Marylebone
Paddington
...and debateably Baker Street
Maybe 150? :? (very rough guess)
Momo1435 April 25th, 2006, 08:38 PM Zürich Hauptbahnhof
This one hasn't been mantioned but it's the biggest in Switserland.
It has 22 terminal platforms in total on three locations in the station (Bahnhof Museumstrasse (16), Bahnhof SZU (2) and Bahnhof Sihlpost (4)).
And 4 through platforms in a tunnel under the station (Bahnhof Löwenstrasse).
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/momo1435/Zuerich_hauptbahnhof.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/momo1435/ZurichHB.jpg
Brice April 26th, 2006, 02:56 AM Paris from the air and its railway stations:
You forgor the new station "Paris Bercy"
http://www.parisinfo.com/IMG/gif/gares_sncf-2.gif
Yardmaster April 26th, 2006, 07:45 AM I'm not Yardmaster, but I can tell you that 13 platforms is about right - platform 1 is 700m long but most of it is fenced off because most of it is not needed and not used. There's also platform 14 which is an extension of platform 1, but it's used very rarely. There was a platform that had its tracks removed though, I can't remember if that's been counted or not. All my trains stop at platform 6 or 7 so it doesn't concern me :P
And in the first post, as he said, there's 14 platforms that are currently operational - but some platforms are long enough and have the track and signalling to fit multiple trains. I'd count platform 8 South as a separate platform though.
I's say 15 (operational) for Southern Cross, including 8 south, of which 6 are through platforms. Several others function as double platforms but without further scutiny I won't claim them.
For Flinders St., 1-10, 11 is out of service, plus 10,11 & 1 east (aka 12,13,14) ... that makes 13.
I only claimed 22 for Melbourne as a whole, for the reasons given in posting #1.
Thanks to everyone who's contributed here: especially the photos and the maps. A mine of information!
Yardmaster April 26th, 2006, 07:56 AM How's about adding together the total number of terminal platforms for each city? That would be fun :D
Remember you'd have to exclude through platforms, but for London you'd be adding:
Waterloo
Victoria
Charing Cross
Blackfriars
Cannon Street
London Bridge
Fenchurch Street
Liverpool Street
Moorgate
King's Cross
St Pancras
Euston
Marylebone
Paddington
...and debateably Baker Street
Maybe 150? :? (very rough guess)
I thought of suggesting this the other night, but then got paranoid and thought people might think I was being to nosey.
Justme April 26th, 2006, 08:27 AM Updated Vapour, thanks!
What a great thread Idea, here is what we have so far:
44: Grand Central (New York)
40: Gare du Nord (Paris)
36: Waterloo (London)
33: Shinjuku (Tokyo)
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahmhof
30: Gare de l'Est (Paris)
30: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
30: Tokyo Station (Tokyo)
29: Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya (Moscow)
28: Gare Montparnasse (Paris)
27: Gare St Lazare (Paris)
26: Leipzig Hauptbahnhof
26: Ikebukuro (Tokyo)
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
25: Gare d'Austerlitz (Paris)
25: Ueno (Tokyo)
25: Sydney Central
24: Euston (London)
24: Kings Cross/ St Pancras (London)
24: Tennoji (Osaka)
24: Kyoto
23: Howrah (Calcutta)
23: Victoria (London)
22: Liverpool Street (London)
22: Omiya (Saitama)
22: Gare de Lyon (Paris)
21: Shinagawa (Tokyo)
20: Paddington (London)
19: London Bridge (London)
17: Yokohama
17: Shin-Osaka (Osaka)
17: Kazanskiy (Moscow)
17: Leeds City (UK)
16: Charing Cross/Embankment
16: Glasgow Central
16: Sendai
16: Sealdah (Calcutta)
15: Kurskiy (Moscow)
15: Southern Cross Station (Melbourne)
14: Piccadilly station (Manchester)
14: Shibuya (Tokyo)
14: Shimbashi (Tokyo)
14: Kita-senju (Tokyo)
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
14: Gare de Marseille-Saint Charles
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
12: Kievskiy (Moscow)
12: New Street (Birmingham UK)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Kanayama (Nagoya)
12: Ofuna (Yokohama)
12: Gare de Flandres (Lille)
11: Paveletskiy (Moscow)
11: Belarusskiy (Moscow)
10: Iidabashi (Tokyo)
10: Moorgate (London)
10: Roma St (Brisbane)
City Totals for Main Terminus'
194: London
190: Tokyo
172: Paris
95: Moscow
71: Osaka
44: New York
39: Calcutta
32: Frankfurt
28: Melbourne
26: Leipzig
26: Zürich
25: Sydney
17: Leeds
16: Glasgow
14: Manchester
14: Marseille
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Birmingham (UK)
12: Lille
12: Nagoya
12: Yokohama
10: Brisbane
Based on Terminus' with over 10 platforms.
Justme April 26th, 2006, 08:31 AM Ok, can we clear up which of these are actually terminus'
32: Nagoya
21: Namba (Osaka)
16: Hakata (Fukuoka)
14: Sapporo
13: Kawasaki
12: Yurakucho/Hibiya (Tokyo)
12: Nagano
10: Akihabara (Tokyo)
10: Otemachi (Tokyo)
10: Nagatacho/Akasakamitsuke (Tokyo)
10: Utsunomiya
and
17: Okayama
16: Oyama
15: Takasaki
15: Fukushima
14: Nigata
14: Morioka
13: Toyohashi
13: Koriyama
13: Shinyamaguchi (Yamaguchi)
12: Nishifunabashi (Funabashi)
12: Hiroshima (trams not included)
10: Akita
Then I'll add them to the list. Looks as though Tokyo will top the table with the most platforms of major terminus'
@Tubeman, got there a while ago, adds up to 194.
@anyone. Camaway posted Milan with 24 platforms. I wish to add this, but does anyone know if that includes the metro platforms and any additional underground suburban platforms?
Frungy April 26th, 2006, 10:32 AM I don't know what you really mean by Terminus. Do you mean the number of tracks where the station is the last stop? Because in Tokyo station, all of the Shinkansen tracks terminate, but about half of the local lines have through service. And I'm pretty sure I only saw 2 tracks each for the Sobu rapid and Keiyo lines.
And yeah, Vapour, I seem to have added too many zeroes...
earthJoker April 26th, 2006, 11:29 AM More data about Zürich:
Main Tracks 16 (3–18, overground)
S-Bahn Tracks 6 (1+2, 21–24, underground)
S-Bahn-Tracks 4 (51–54, overground)
Train Movement (daily)
870 (Tracks. 3–18, National/International)
1250 (Gl. 21–24, S-Bahn)
429 (Gl. 51–54, S-Bahn)
190 (Gl. 1+2, S-Bahn, SZU)
Total: 2739 Trains
Passengers 350'000 (daily)
124'600'000 (annual)
More pics:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=221636
m@rco April 26th, 2006, 12:02 PM You forgor the new station "Paris Bercy"
What is new ?
I know some trains (car sleeper trains) have their terminus in this stations but tracks are terminus as well ?
Tintin27 April 26th, 2006, 12:05 PM TErminus meaning no thru tracks..
Yardmaster April 26th, 2006, 12:18 PM I don't know what you really mean by Terminus. Do you mean the number of tracks where the station is the last stop? Because in Tokyo station, all of the Shinkansen tracks terminate, but about half of the local lines have through service. And I'm pretty sure I only saw 2 tracks each for the Sobu rapid and Keiyo lines.
And yeah, Vapour, I seem to have added too many zeroes...
I was waiting for some angst about this, in particular, in regard to Flinders St. Melbourne. Other stations which might be questioned here are Sydney Central (in part) and Penn Central (NY), which so far hasn't rated a mention, and as far as I'm concerned, deserves to be included.
The "terminal" status wasn't designed to count the number of buffer stops: it was intended to prevent the inclusion of stations whose tracks simply run through to somewhere else more important: e.g. in Melbourne, east of Flinders St. lies Richmond, but its 10 platforms & 10 tracks all just run on to Flinders St. (plus two branching to Parliament), so counting this station in a Melbourne aggegate total would be simply counting the same tracks again. Likewise in London, I appreciate the posting for Clapham Junction (including the photos), but you couldn't add its platforms to a total for the city.
Flinders St. actually spouts 14 tracks to the east and 6 (formerly 10!) to the west, so maybe we could argue that it's not a terminus. Never-the-less, almost every train that passes through it "terminates" there, as an "up train", and is redispatched there, as a "down train". That's good enough for me, and that's why I haven't included the 6 tracks at Southern Cross in my Melbourne total, because they're running from Flinders St. through to somewhere else.
Sydney Central has 25 platforms, 10 of which run through: 2 to Bondi Junction, 2 across the Harbour Bridge to the North Shore Line, and 6 to the City Circle. As far as I'm concerned, Sydney Central has 25 platforms.
Penn Central NY as far as I understand, handles Amtrak traffic on the Washington/Boston corridor (correct me if I'm wrong). I understand the lines run through, and maybe that's why it hasn't been mentioned yet. But, in my language, its platforms should be added to the New York total.
The same goes for Old & New Delhi. Neither station is a terminal in the true sense of the word, but I'd be interested to know how many platforms there are, and how many trains and passengers terminate there.
I'd love to see some more data for Victoria, Mumbai (this thread won't be complete without a decent photo!). Also, what about Beijing? Several terminii there, one of which looks huge in the only photo I ever saw of it. Howrah in Kolkutta (did I do that right?) is also pretty busy.
Justme April 26th, 2006, 12:40 PM ^ excellent summary Yardmaster.
Yes, basically for the reasons you mentioned, stations like Clapton Junction & Richmond shouldn't be included. Another thing I have avoided is major stations outside the central core, Stratford in London is an example of this.
I wanted to include Penn, as it should be on the list for NY, but a search to find exactly how many platforms are in use has not succeeded. I was hoping a NY local could post that information.
Likewise, although the general idea is for a Terminus station, most of these stations also have some through traffic, and these platforms should also be included (like Sydney or Waterloo etc)
earthJoker April 26th, 2006, 01:19 PM 28: Zürich Main Station
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
28: Zürich
26: Zürich
Hauptbahnhof and Main station is the same thing (one german the other english)
it has at the moment 26 tracks, so the number for Zürich would be 26 aswell (all major trains go to the Hauptbahnhof)
There is a plan to build 4 more tracks, but they prolly will replace the 4 s-bahn tracks that are overground.
So 28 is not correct.
Justme April 26th, 2006, 01:23 PM Hauptbahnhof and Main station is the same thing (one german the other english)
it has at the moment 26 tracks, so the number for Zürich would be 26 aswell (all major trains go to the Hauptbahnhof)
There is a plan to build 4 more tracks, but they prolly will replace the 4 s-bahn tracks that are overground.
So 28 is not correct.
hehe, I know that. I must have written them in from two different sources by accident. I'll correct. Funny thing is, I don't remember where I wrote the 28 platforms from....?
coth April 26th, 2006, 01:53 PM why summing only over 10 platforms? terminus central station still terminus central station, no matter how much platforms there...
Justme April 26th, 2006, 02:00 PM Here's some interesting diagrams of train sheds in different countries:
Britain:
http://www.p.lodz.pl/I35/personal/jw37/sheds/images/Uk-shed.jpg
France:
http://www.p.lodz.pl/I35/personal/jw37/sheds/images/Fr-shed.jpg
Germanic, Central Europe and Low Countries:
http://www.p.lodz.pl/I35/personal/jw37/sheds/images/De-shed.jpg
More can be found at this site, including Japan, some countries in South America and other parts of Europe.
http://www.p.lodz.pl/I35/personal/jw37/sheds/trainsheds.html
Justme April 26th, 2006, 02:01 PM why summing only over 10 platforms? terminus central station still terminus central station, no matter how much platforms there...
Originally I put all terminus', however as the list gets longer it will simply be too much information, we had to draw a line somewhere. This list is nothing at the moment as so many cities are missing.
Yardmaster April 26th, 2006, 02:18 PM ^^ Wow! you won't get many trainsheds here! We have a state election in november, and whatever else you can throw against them , our Government kept the budget balanced, rebuilt the regional rail network to 21st century standards, and built Melbourne's first decent trainshed: approximately 200m x 150m.
coth April 26th, 2006, 02:24 PM i'm talking about sum of platforms, not about list of all stations....
nick_taylor April 26th, 2006, 03:18 PM Portsmouth: 6 terminating platforms
Portsmouth Harbour (http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5751/portsmouthharbour5si.jpg): 4 terminating platforms
Portsmouth & Southsea (http://ww2.portsmouth-college.ac.uk/portsmouth/albums/From-the-Guildhall/Guidhall_1.sized.jpg): 2 terminating platforms + 2 through platforms (picture unfortunately from 60's)
Brighton: 8 terminating platforms
Brighton (http://www.regencysociety.co.uk/Resources/aa.jpeg): 8 terminating platforms
Glasgow: 22 terminating platforms
Glasgow Central (http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2048/amglasgowcentral3va.jpg) : 16 terminating platforms
Glasgow Queen Street (http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/3133/800pxglasgowqueenstreetstation.jpg) : 6 terminating platforms
Justme April 26th, 2006, 03:26 PM Anyone know how many platforms are currently operational at Antwerps masterpiece of a station? I know it's undergoing massive renovation and I believe it should have 14 platforms when finished, but are there 14 currently, or just 10 operational now?
poller1 April 26th, 2006, 03:32 PM Anyone know how many platforms are currently operational at Antwerps masterpiece of a station? I know it's undergoing massive renovation and I believe it should have 14 platforms when finished, but are there 14 currently, or just 10 operational now?
I know it exactly, because I use it every day...
CURRENT : 6
WHEN FINISHED : 14...
http://www.pienternet.be/pano/c-station/foto1.jpg
BEFORE THE RENOVATIONS : 10.
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ANTWERP BERCHEM : 10
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BRUSSELS CENTRAL : 6 (but busiest station in Belgium !)
BRUSSELS MIDI : 21 or 22
BRUSSELS NORTH : 12?
Justme April 26th, 2006, 03:44 PM From my understanding, Munich's Hauptbahnhof has 39 platforms. 31 Above ground, and 8 below (2 platforms for S1, S2, S4-S8, 2 for S27 and LA, 4 for the U-bahn?)
Can anyone confirm this?
Yardmaster April 26th, 2006, 03:53 PM why summing only over 10 platforms? terminus central station still terminus central station, no matter how much platforms there...
In my humble opinion, all of the terminating lines should be accounted for for any individual city, even if they terminate at a very small station (e.g. Singapore: 2, but a magnificent booking hall!)
Thanks to Justme for doing the arithmetic.
Here's what we have at the moment:
20 Largest Railway Stations:
1 to5:
44: Grand Central (New York)
40: Gare du Nord (Paris)
36: Waterloo (London)
33: Shinjuku (Tokyo)
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahmhof
6 to 10:
30: Gare de l'Est (Paris)
30: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
30: Tokyo Station (Tokyo)
29: Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya (Moscow)
28: Gare Montparnasse (Paris)
11 to 15:
27: Gare St Lazare (Paris)
26: Leipzig Hauptbahnhof
26: Ikebukuro (Tokyo)
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
25: Gare d'Austerlitz (Paris)
16 to 20 (yes, I know what you're going to say!):
25: Ueno (Tokyo)
25: Sydney Central
24: Euston (London)
24: Kings Cross/ St Pancras (London)
24: Tennoji (Osaka)
24: Kyoto
(actually 21, but someone will sooner or later rule one out).
Largest City Terminals (and wow to those who hit the tonne!)
City Totals for Main Terminus'
194: London
190: Tokyo
172: Paris
95: Moscow
71: Osaka
44: New York
39: Calcutta
32: Frankfurt
28: Melbourne
26: Leipzig
26: Zürich
25: Sydney
I humbly reduce my own city (Melbourne) to 22, removing it fron the top twelve. My suspicion is that Moscow and New York are understated here, but neither will change its position. I think Tokyo will drop back to 3rd place. also, Kolkatta needs to be upped a bit ( there are other stations!)
Justme April 26th, 2006, 03:54 PM Excellent, now that we have some good info for NY, we can watch it rightfully climb the table. I presume Atlantic Terminal is in a central location, as we really are only talking central stations here rather than large suburban ones. I'll put it in anyway
52: Grand Central (New York)
40: Gare du Nord (Paris)
39: Munich Hauptbahnhof
36: Waterloo (London)
33: Shinjuku (Tokyo)
33: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof
32: Gare St Lazare (Paris)
30: Gare de l'Est (Paris)
30: Tokyo Station (Tokyo)
29: Penn Station (New York)
29: Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya (Moscow)
28: Gare Montparnasse (Paris)
26: Leipzig Hauptbahnhof
26: Ikebukuro (Tokyo)
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
26: Midi (Brussels)
25: Gare d'Austerlitz (Paris)
25: Ueno (Tokyo)
25: Sydney Central
24: Euston (London)
24: Kings Cross/ St Pancras (London)
24: Tennoji (Osaka)
24: Kyoto
23: Howrah (Calcutta)
23: Victoria (London)
22: Liverpool Street (London)
22: Omiya (Saitama)
22: Gare de Lyon (Paris)
21: Shinagawa (Tokyo)
20: Paddington (London)
19: London Bridge (London)
19: Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof
18: Basel SBB & Basel SNCF
17: Yokohama
17: Shin-Osaka (Osaka)
17: Kazanskiy (Moscow)
17: Leeds City (UK)
16: Charing Cross/Embankment
16: Atlantic Terminal (New York)
16: Glasgow Central
16: Bern Central
16: Sendai
16: Sealdah (Calcutta)
16: Hamburg Hauptbahnhof
15: Kurskiy (Moscow)
15: Southern Cross Station (Melbourne)
15: Rotterdam Centraal
14: Utrecht Centraal
14: Piccadilly station (Manchester)
14: Shibuya (Tokyo)
14: Shimbashi (Tokyo)
14: Kita-senju (Tokyo)
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
14: Gare de Marseille-Saint Charles
14: Luzern (terminal)
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
13: Amsterdam Centraal
12: Kievskiy (Moscow)
12: Den Haag Centraal
12: New Street (Birmingham UK)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Kanayama (Nagoya)
12: Ofuna (Yokohama)
12: Gare de Flandres (Lille)
12: Altona (Hamburg)
12: Sants (Barcelona)
11: Paveletskiy (Moscow)
11: Belarusskiy (Moscow)
10: Olten (Switerland)
10: Iidabashi (Tokyo)
10: Moorgate (London)
10: Roma St (Brisbane)
City Totals for Main Terminus'
194: London
190: Tokyo
177: Paris
97: New York
95: Moscow
74: Osaka
39: Calcutta
39: Munich
32: Frankfurt
28: Hamburg
28: Melbourne
26: Brussels
26: Leipzig
26: Zürich
25: Sydney
19: Stuttgart
18: Basel
17: Leeds
16: Glasgow
16: Bern
15: Rotterdam
14: Manchester
14: Luzern
14: Utrecht
14: Marseille
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
13: Amsterdam
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Birmingham (UK)
12: Den Haag
12: Barcelona
12: Lille
12: Nagoya
12: Yokohama
10: Brisbane
10: Olten (Switzerland)
Ok, so we are still desperate for full NY Accurate numbers for Penn Station (including subway) and any other major central station/terminus (platform count, not track count)
@Coth, Could you do a run down of all the terminus' for Moscow, with platform count, as I am not sure everything is accurate here.
Based on Terminus' with over 10 platforms. Note: Should we start including ALL terminus/Main central stations including those under 10 platforms? Some cities like Berlin may not even get counted as they have multiple smaller stations?
poller1 April 26th, 2006, 04:32 PM Another update: (@poller1, thanks, I found an article for Midi that stated 22 platforms)
44: Grand Central (New York)
40: Gare du Nord (Paris)
39: Munich Hauptbahnhof
36: Waterloo (London)
33: Shinjuku (Tokyo)
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahmhof
30: Gare de l'Est (Paris)
30: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
30: Tokyo Station (Tokyo)
29: Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya (Moscow)
28: Gare Montparnasse (Paris)
27: Gare St Lazare (Paris)
26: Leipzig Hauptbahnhof
26: Ikebukuro (Tokyo)
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
25: Gare d'Austerlitz (Paris)
25: Ueno (Tokyo)
25: Sydney Central
24: Euston (London)
24: Kings Cross/ St Pancras (London)
24: Tennoji (Osaka)
24: Kyoto
23: Howrah (Calcutta)
23: Victoria (London)
22: Liverpool Street (London)
22: Midi (Brussels)
22: Omiya (Saitama)
22: Gare de Lyon (Paris)
21: Shinagawa (Tokyo)
20: Paddington (London)
19: London Bridge (London)
19: Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof
17: Yokohama
17: Shin-Osaka (Osaka)
17: Kazanskiy (Moscow)
17: Leeds City (UK)
16: Charing Cross/Embankment
16: Glasgow Central
16: Sendai
16: Sealdah (Calcutta)
16: Hamburg Hauptbahnhof
15: Kurskiy (Moscow)
15: Southern Cross Station (Melbourne)
14: Piccadilly station (Manchester)
14: Shibuya (Tokyo)
14: Shimbashi (Tokyo)
14: Kita-senju (Tokyo)
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
14: Gare de Marseille-Saint Charles
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
12: Kievskiy (Moscow)
12: New Street (Birmingham UK)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Kanayama (Nagoya)
12: Ofuna (Yokohama)
12: Gare de Flandres (Lille)
12: Altona (Hamburg)
11: Paveletskiy (Moscow)
11: Belarusskiy (Moscow)
10: Iidabashi (Tokyo)
10: Moorgate (London)
10: Roma St (Brisbane)
City Totals for Main Terminus'
194: London
190: Tokyo
172: Paris
95: Moscow
71: Osaka
44: New York
39: Calcutta
39: Munich
32: Frankfurt
28: Hamburg
28: Melbourne
26: Leipzig
26: Zürich
25: Sydney
22: Brussels
19: Stuttgart
17: Leeds
16: Glasgow
14: Manchester
14: Marseille
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Birmingham (UK)
12: Lille
12: Nagoya
12: Yokohama
10: Brisbane
Based on Terminus' with over 10 platforms.
Why don't you count the Central and North (and Luxembourg) stations for Brussels?
I see for many stations you do count underground (U-bahn, underground, subway, métro...) platforms.
Let me try to give some figures for Antwerp and Brussels (I hope the Brussels people will correct me if I'm wrong) :
UNDERGROUND PLATFORMS FOR BELGIAN STATIONS :
BRUSSELS MIDI : metro : 2 platforms
premetro : 2 platforms ;
Brings total for midi at 26 platforms.
BRUSSELS CENTRAL : metro : 2 platforms
BRUSSELS NORTH : premetro : 2 platforms
ANTWERP CENTRAL : premetro : 2 platforms ('Diamant') + 2 platforms ('Astrid') -> those from Astrid station are being connected underground to the Central train station right now. bringing Antwerp Central to 18 (after renovation).
If the Pegasus plan (opening another premetro line serving the Astrid station), this will bring at least 1 extra platform (but this is really long term...).
coldstar April 26th, 2006, 04:59 PM Another update: (@poller1, thanks, I found an article for Midi that stated 22 platforms)
44: Grand Central (New York)
40: Gare du Nord (Paris)
39: Munich Hauptbahnhof
36: Waterloo (London)
33: Shinjuku (Tokyo)
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahmhof
30: Gare de l'Est (Paris)
30: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
30: Tokyo Station (Tokyo)
29: Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya (Moscow)
28: Gare Montparnasse (Paris)
27: Gare St Lazare (Paris)
26: Leipzig Hauptbahnhof
26: Ikebukuro (Tokyo)
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
25: Gare d'Austerlitz (Paris)
25: Ueno (Tokyo)
25: Sydney Central
24: Euston (London)
24: Kings Cross/ St Pancras (London)
24: Tennoji (Osaka)
24: Kyoto
23: Howrah (Calcutta)
23: Victoria (London)
22: Liverpool Street (London)
22: Midi (Brussels)
22: Omiya (Saitama)
22: Gare de Lyon (Paris)
21: Shinagawa (Tokyo)
20: Paddington (London)
19: London Bridge (London)
19: Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof
17: Yokohama
17: Shin-Osaka (Osaka)
17: Kazanskiy (Moscow)
17: Leeds City (UK)
16: Charing Cross/Embankment
16: Glasgow Central
16: Sendai
16: Sealdah (Calcutta)
16: Hamburg Hauptbahnhof
15: Kurskiy (Moscow)
15: Southern Cross Station (Melbourne)
14: Piccadilly station (Manchester)
14: Shibuya (Tokyo)
14: Shimbashi (Tokyo)
14: Kita-senju (Tokyo)
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
14: Gare de Marseille-Saint Charles
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
12: Kievskiy (Moscow)
12: New Street (Birmingham UK)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Kanayama (Nagoya)
12: Ofuna (Yokohama)
12: Gare de Flandres (Lille)
12: Altona (Hamburg)
11: Paveletskiy (Moscow)
11: Belarusskiy (Moscow)
10: Iidabashi (Tokyo)
10: Moorgate (London)
10: Roma St (Brisbane)
City Totals for Main Terminus'
194: London
190: Tokyo
172: Paris
95: Moscow
71: Osaka
44: New York
39: Calcutta
39: Munich
32: Frankfurt
28: Hamburg
28: Melbourne
26: Leipzig
26: Zürich
25: Sydney
22: Brussels
19: Stuttgart
17: Leeds
16: Glasgow
14: Manchester
14: Marseille
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Birmingham (UK)
12: Lille
12: Nagoya
12: Yokohama
10: Brisbane
Based on Terminus' with over 10 platforms.
Osaka/Umeda/Nishiumeda/Higashiumeda/Kitashinchi are all identical station. (Each railway company uses its own name, but the same place).
Thus, 33 Platforms, not 30. That's why Osaka/Umeda Stn. is usually considered Japan's largest.
coth April 26th, 2006, 05:41 PM I don't have figure for SPb central stations but i think it should be between 40 and 50 in sum. Google Earth does not show SPb perfectly so i can't check. There are 6 central stations.
if count all central stations and terminations so moscow will have 106 platforms. however most of platforms on kurskiy vokzal are through platforms, but kurskiy vokzal is beginning of two lines to south. next station after kurskiy vokzal on north is kalanchevskaya - beginning of riga direction line (to north), while rizhskiy vokzal is one track branch joining between rzhevskaya and dmitrovskaya stations. the line to north of kurskiy vokzal also connect several more central stations (savelevskiy and leningradskiy by branch and belarusskiy by several through platforms).
green line in center of moscow
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/2720/prigorodny20029nb.gif
together, 3 central stations square has 46 platforms, riga square has 10 platforms (rizhskiy vokzal - 5 , rzhevskaya - 2 and rizhskaya - 3), savelovskiy vokzal square - 10 (vokzal - 8 and savelovskaya station - 2)
Unsing April 26th, 2006, 06:32 PM Hmm.. sorry but can anyone tell me exactly what terminal station is?
Satellite
Shinjuku http://maps.google.co.jp/maps?t=k&om=1&ll=35.689666,139.701355&spn=0.011799,0.019956
Tokyo http://maps.google.co.jp/maps?t=k&om=1&ll=35.681231,139.767616&spn=0.0118,0.019956
Ikebukuro http://maps.google.co.jp/maps?t=k&om=1&ll=35.730088,139.711955&spn=0.011793,0.019956
Ueno http://maps.google.co.jp/maps?t=k&om=1&ll=35.713608,139.777057&spn=0.011795,0.019956
Omiya (not shown) http://maps.google.co.jp/maps?t=k&om=1&ll=35.906641,139.624836&spn=0.011766,0.019956
Shinagawa http://maps.google.co.jp/maps?t=k&om=1&ll=35.628646,139.739442&spn=0.011808,0.019956
Yokohama http://maps.google.co.jp/maps?t=k&om=1&ll=35.465721,139.622111&spn=0.011832,0.019956
xymarc April 26th, 2006, 07:27 PM Italy has a lot of big station, that are manged by a company, Grandi Stazioni (litteraly Big Stations). Here (http://www.grandistazioni.it/) (select "Our network") you can find them. By the way, the biggest are Roma Termini (Rome) and Milano Centrale (Milan), both are terminal stations.
According to Wikipedia, Roma Termini is the biggest station in Europe. The station has 24 tracks for the national and international trains + others tracks for regional and local trains and for the Fiumicino airport. Certainty is the biggest in Italy. Roma Termini datas taken at www.romatermini.it :
Structural data
225,000 sq. m. total surface area
13,000 sq. m. Hall and Central Gallery
14,000 sq. m. Forum Termini Service Centre
7,000 sq. m. Termini Wing - via Giolitti
13,000 sq.m. of underground passages, down to 12 metres underground
15 km. of platforms
24 tracks
4 km. of underground passageways
20 km. rainwater drainage system
49,791 sq. m. of floor and panelling
12,948 sq. m. of attic
17 fixed staircases and escalators
4 lifts
22 elevators of 3,000-kg capacity load
360 m of moving walkways
1,152 m. of pathways for blind people
8,242 sq. m. of doors and windows
2,000 sq. m. fixtures for ticket office and fancy goods
Flow data
480,000 daily visitors
170 million yearly visitors
50,000 people on a daily average visiting cafeterias and restaurants
800 trains departing and arriving every day
Security
2 Railway Police offices
2 Carabinieri offices (police)
1 Guardia di Finanza office
460 security agents watching 24h/day
300 control cameras
15 inter-com SOS stations
500 fire alarm buttons under glass protection
3,700 smoke detectors
1 gas detection station
Public interest services
1 outpatient clinic
1 surgery
1 post office
1 chemist
585 public telephone facilities
9 cash points
4 bank agencies
5 currency change
1 Hotel Reservation office
1 Catholic chapel
Utilities
240 information monitors and notice boards
3 video walls
1,300 luggage trolleys
60 snack and drink machines along the tracks
100 drinking fountains placed along the platforms
Cafeterias, restaurants and shopping
3 restaurants
4 fast food
11 cafeterias, ice cream parlours
2 drugstore
60 shops in the Termini Forum
170 product categories
8 newsstands
6 tobacconists
1 fitness center
Some photos:
http://www.foobonic.com/gallery/d/90182-2/acf.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=51f1528bf6fcf24bb1c47bf01481c12d
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38358000/jpg/_38358275_termini300ap.jpg
http://www.slowtrav.com/italy/images/trains/rome_1228.jpg
http://www.ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~nmatsuna/Japanese/album/Termini1.jpg
http://www.ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~nmatsuna/Japanese/album/Termini2.jpg
http://www.jeannot.org/~js/photos/800x600/digital/DSCF1799.jpg
Bitxofo April 26th, 2006, 07:40 PM How about Spanish stations?
:?
Barcelona Sants in 2005 (busiest station in Spain):
12 tracks/platforms.
46 million passengers.
;)
In 2007:
14 tracks/platforms
50 million passengers.
:wink2:
sweek April 26th, 2006, 07:59 PM Hmm, we don't have that many real termini. The busiest station is Amsterdam centraal with 250.000 people a day, but most services run through it to cities on the other side of the station.
http://img289.imageshack.us/img289/2949/centraalstation2um.jpg
It has 15 tracks, 11 alongside platforms. Platforums are split up again in a and b parts, so you'll often have two trains behind each other along the same platform.
Next to that there are two subway tracks (is being redeveloped and new ones should be added for the new North-South line) and 8 tram tracks, two of them used for light rail. More and more traffic is being moved to the Southern station though, which is supposed to become the new hub.
Den Haag CS is the only big actual terminus, with all trains ending there. Anyone has pictures of that one?
Momo1435 April 26th, 2006, 08:22 PM ^^
The Netherlands, the big four
15: Rotterdam Centraal 13 platforms + 2 metro platforms
14: Utrecht Centraal 14 platforms
13: Amsterdam Centraal: 11 platforms + 2 metro platforms
12: Den Haag Centraal: 12 platforms
Yardmaster April 26th, 2006, 08:25 PM Hmm, we don't have that many real termini. The busiest station is Amsterdam centraal with 250.000 people a day, but most services run through it to cities on the other side of the station.
(photo above)
It has 15 tracks, 11 alongside platforms. Platforums are split up again in a and b parts, so you'll often have two trains behind each other along the same platform.
Next to that there are two subway tracks (is being redeveloped and new ones should be added for the new North-South line) and 8 tram tracks, two of them used for light rail. More and more traffic is being moved to the Southern station though, which is supposed to become the new hub.
Den Haag CS is the only big actual terminus, with all trains ending there. Anyone has pictures of that one?
Thank-you Sweek! Amsterdam's station is renowned!
strandk April 26th, 2006, 08:37 PM It seems that many big stations have both terminal and through services. Frankly if you would like to compare the size of stations, probably the best way is to nominate stations with large numbers of platforms whether they are terminals or not. Otherwise you will have to omit many big stations with large traffic flows just because they are not pure terminals.
Yardmaster April 26th, 2006, 08:40 PM How about Spanish stations?
:?
Barcelona Sants in 2005 (busiest station in Spain):
12 tracks/platforms.
46 million passengers.
;)
In 2007:
14 tracks/platforms
50 million passengers.
:wink2:
Didn't I see a very impressive image of Saragossa Station in the SSC banner? and what about Lisbon?
Momo1435 April 26th, 2006, 08:45 PM Switserland other than Zürich Hauptbahnhof
18: Basel SBB & Basel SNCF (terminal?)
This is a through station, but you can see it as a terminus stations back to back. The SBB and SNCF parts have a different electric current and are separated by custom facilities. Most trains from France terminate in the SNCF section and the trains from Germany and the national services terminate in the SBB station. There are through trains, EC services from France terminate at the SNCF station and are then pushed into the SBB section were they get a Swiss loco. The through S-Bahn, to Mulhouse is operated with multi-voltage EMU's.
16: Bern
Bern has 12 normal gauge tracks for the SBB and the BLS trains and 4 narrow gauge tracks for the RBS trains
14: Luzern (terminal)
Luzern has 10 normal gauge platforms and 4 narrow gauge tracks for Zentralbahn trains. There are techinacly more but not all are in use, especially in the narrow gauge section of the station outside the main building.
10: Olten
Olten is the spill station in Switserland, it lays on the crosspoint of the north-south and east-west routes in Switserland.
Yardmaster April 26th, 2006, 09:12 PM It seems that many big stations have both terminal and through services. Frankly if you would like to compare the size of stations, probably the best way is to nominate stations with large numbers of platforms whether they are terminals or not. Otherwise you will have to omit many big stations with large traffic flows just because they are not pure terminals.
See comments above.
Sydney Central (since no-one in tinsel-town could get their act together :jk: )
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/transport/sydcen3823.jpg
Now what's going on here?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/transport/sydcen3843.jpg
Scruffy88 April 26th, 2006, 09:14 PM Alright so Im a little confused. Are we only looking for rail lines that end at a station and do not continue forward? Or are we also counting rail platforms that continue on past the city? Either way I have a bunch to add but cant seem to find the numbers. Wikipedia is no help. Penn station in manhattan has yet to be counted and although its a bit smaller than Grand central its far busier. Grand central is only for Metro North trains to the northern suburbs. Penn handles all of Amtrak, and Long Island Rail Road and New Jersey Transit. Amtraks are through trains, LIRR and NJ Transit, its the last stop. Then you have Atlantic Terminal in Brooklyn where I dont have a exact number but its about 10 rail platforms and its an end stop. Then you have Jamaica Terminal, I think it only has 8 platforms, all pass through, but handles over 1000 trains a day. Which is a lot for 8 platforms. It also is a big rail yard. So can someone clear up what you are looking for and I'll try and find these numbers
mad_nick April 26th, 2006, 10:03 PM ^ Atlantic Terminal has 3 island platforms along 6 tracks.
Penn Station has 21 tracks, not sure about the number of platforms (but mostly island platforms so probably 10 island platforms as well as one platforming a single track). Also, NJT plans to add 6 or 8 tracks in conjunction with the planned Trans-Hudson Express (THE) tunnel. Most tracks are through tracks, although they're served mostly by trains terminating at Penn Station. Only Amtrak runs through service.
Jamaica doesn't count, few trains terminate there.
Tintin27 April 26th, 2006, 10:06 PM Victoria Terminus Mumbai, Now known as Mumbai CST.. Its the main terminus of Mumbai even though there are more terminuses now handling increasing no of expresses... This station handles between 500,000 to 1,000,000 ppl /day..
http://tribe.ulm.edu/~indsa/images/vt.jpg
From IRFCA
Yardmaster April 26th, 2006, 10:37 PM Alright so Im a little confused. Are we only looking for rail lines that end at a station and do not continue forward? Or are we also counting rail platforms that continue on past the city? Either way I have a bunch to add but cant seem to find the numbers. Wikipedia is no help. Penn station in manhattan has yet to be counted and although its a bit smaller than Grand central its far busier. Grand central is only for Metro North trains to the northern suburbs. Penn handles all of Amtrak, and Long Island Rail Road and New Jersey Transit. Amtraks are through trains, LIRR and NJ Transit, its the last stop. Then you have Atlantic Terminal in Brooklyn where I dont have a exact number but its about 10 rail platforms and its an end stop. Then you have Jamaica Terminal, I think it only has 8 platforms, all pass through, but handles over 1000 trains a day. Which is a lot for 8 platforms. It also is a big rail yard. So can someone clear up what you are looking for and I'll try and find these numbers
Penn certainly counts, & we've been looking for it, so give us the details! We want someone who's actually been there!
Jamaica doesn't count, because, however busy it may be, it's just a through-station. (Sorry, I've never been to the US, but I have read about Jamaica, LI ). As far as I am concerned, any little terminal stations west of the Hudson or east of Manhatten counts, but address honestly the issue of how many of NYC's 44 platforms are actually being used.
Yardmaster April 26th, 2006, 10:41 PM Victoria Terminus Mumbai, Now known as Mumbai CST.. Its the main terminus of Mumbai even though there are more terminuses now handling increasing no of expresses... This station handles between 500,000 to 1,000,000 ppl /day..
http://tribe.ulm.edu/~indsa/images/vt.jpg
From IRFCA
Thanks for the photo! Any more details?
mad_nick April 27th, 2006, 12:14 AM Penn certainly counts, & we've been looking for it, so give us the details! We want someone who's actually been there!
As I said above, Penn Station has 21 tracks, and even though it has far less tracks than Grand Central, it's by far the busier one. About 500 LIRR trains terminate and depart Penn Station / weekday. I'm not sure how many NJT trains, but probably almost a bit less than LIRR. There are also several Amtrak trains, though most don't terminate at Penn Station. I would estimate about 100-200 daily Amtrak trains pass through or terminate at Penn Station.
Jamaica doesn't count, because, however busy it may be, it's just a through-station. (Sorry, I've never been to the US, but I have read about Jamaica, LI ). As far as I am concerned, any little terminal stations west of the Hudson or east of Manhatten counts, but address honestly the issue of how many of NYC's 44 platforms are actually being used.
I assume you're referring to Grand Central?
As far as I know, all or most of the platforms are technically in operation, though obviously many aren't used on a regular basis. (There used to be long distance trains terminating at Grand Central as well as commuter trains, but now only Metro North trains go to Grand Central.)
I couldn't find any official figures, but by looking at the schedules, I estimate about 300 trains terminate at Grand Central / weekday, and about 300 depart every weekday.
Yardmaster April 27th, 2006, 12:26 AM ^^ Thanks Nick. There are legitimate reasons why Jamaica, Long Island, doesn't count, and they're the same reasons why Richmond, Victoria, Redfern, NSW, and Clapton Junction, England don't count (see above).
mad_nick April 27th, 2006, 12:38 AM ^ It's actually Jamaica, Queens, Jamaica is within city limits. But I agree, Jamaica doesn't count.
Here are the New York stations you asked for:
Grand Central - 44 platforms platforming 67 tracks
Penn Station (the vast majority of trains terminate but it's a through station for most Amtrak trains) - 21 tracks, probably 11 platforms, not sure
Hoboken Terminal (in Hoboken, NJ, served by PATH subway to the city) - don't know
Atlantic Terminal (Brooklyn) - 6 tracks platformed by 3 island platforms
Long Island City (Queens, lightly used, mostly diesels from LIRR unelectrified territory) - don't know
So the total that I know of is 61 platforms, platforming 94 tracks.
Vapour April 27th, 2006, 02:20 AM Osaka/Umeda/Nishiumeda/Higashiumeda/Kitashinchi are all identical station. (Each railway company uses its own name, but the same place).
Thus, 33 Platforms, not 30. That's why Osaka/Umeda Stn. is usually considered Japan's largest.
Blame that one on me, I forgot to add Kitashinchi :clown: Kitashinchi has 3 platforms? :?
Bitxofo April 27th, 2006, 02:41 AM Didn't I see a very impressive image of Saragossa Station in the SSC banner? and what about Lisbon?
Zaragoza Delicias new station for normal and high speed trains is huge for a city of 660,000 inhabitants! The reason is that is in the middle of the highspeed railway line from Barcelona to Madrid.
;)
BCN-Madrid high speed train will be running at 350kph in December of 2007, if there are no delays.
:wink2:
Scruffy88 April 27th, 2006, 06:54 AM Is Atlantic Terminal really that small? I thought it was much bigger. Shows you how much I know. Wiki said 8 tracks. The thing with Jamaica is that when I lived in Long Island for a while, our train always ended at Jamaica. That was the end of the Line. Then we had to change to another platform to another train to get into Penn. I would always be changing from the newer 2 story trains to the older 1 story flat ones. Thats why i mention it
Vapour April 27th, 2006, 06:57 AM BCN-Madrid high speed train will be running at 350kph in December of 2007, if there are no delays.
:wink2:
You know that's not going to happen :D
DonQui April 27th, 2006, 06:57 AM You know that's not going to happen :D
Nay-saying killjoy u_u
Justme April 27th, 2006, 08:12 AM Why don't you count the Central and North (and Luxembourg) stations for Brussels?
Only two reasons maybe the case for any of my data:
1) I simply don't know the platform count. Not living in those cities or without understanding the local language of many countries it is often hard for me to find accurate data. Without this I try to wait until someone who knows the city and station post the plaform count.
2) At this stage I have limited this to stations over ten platforms, if I find the number under ten, I have ommitted it. Other people have suggested we include terminus stations under 10 platforms and I have no problem with this - although it will make for a massive list at the end. I'm happy to start adding to the list these stations but please bear in mind the extra work this will be.
I see for many stations you do count underground (U-bahn, underground, subway, métro...) platforms.
Very good point.
I have always tried to include all platforms at a station. If it has a direct subway/metro connection, then I try to include these. however:
1) Many people who list the station don't indicate if it includes such subway lines
2) Finding details of these extra platforms can be very difficult if I don't understand the local language.
I'm just the guy doing the work of making an updated list. We need everyone's help here to supply the correct data, a good team effort so to speak. :cheers:
Let me try to give some figures for Antwerp and Brussels (I hope the Brussels people will correct me if I'm wrong) :
UNDERGROUND PLATFORMS FOR BELGIAN STATIONS :
BRUSSELS MIDI : metro : 2 platforms
premetro : 2 platforms ;
Brings total for midi at 26 platforms.
BRUSSELS CENTRAL : metro : 2 platforms
BRUSSELS NORTH : premetro : 2 platforms
ANTWERP CENTRAL : premetro : 2 platforms ('Diamant') + 2 platforms ('Astrid') -> those from Astrid station are being connected underground to the Central train station right now. bringing Antwerp Central to 18 (after renovation).
If the Pegasus plan (opening another premetro line serving the Astrid station), this will bring at least 1 extra platform (but this is really long term...).
Many thanks! At this stage I have been trying to only include currently "operational" platforms. We should have a discussion if we are to include those under construction and maybe include a date when it is expected to be finished.
Justme April 27th, 2006, 08:27 AM Alright so Im a little confused. Are we only looking for rail lines that end at a station and do not continue forward? Or are we also counting rail platforms that continue on past the city? Either way I have a bunch to add but cant seem to find the numbers. Wikipedia is no help. Penn station in manhattan has yet to be counted and although its a bit smaller than Grand central its far busier. Grand central is only for Metro North trains to the northern suburbs. Penn handles all of Amtrak, and Long Island Rail Road and New Jersey Transit. Amtraks are through trains, LIRR and NJ Transit, its the last stop. Then you have Atlantic Terminal in Brooklyn where I dont have a exact number but its about 10 rail platforms and its an end stop. Then you have Jamaica Terminal, I think it only has 8 platforms, all pass through, but handles over 1000 trains a day. Which is a lot for 8 platforms. It also is a big rail yard. So can someone clear up what you are looking for and I'll try and find these numbers
Ok, a few people have asked this question.
Now, I'm not making rules here ;) but the way it looks so far is that by Terminus station, we are basically talking about the main central stations where many, but not all, trains may terminate.
Generally, the stations should be in the central core, so other large ones like Jamaica Station in NY, or Clapton Junction in London etc have not been included.
Many Terminus stations also have pass through platforms. Some may have all the platforms with pass through traffic, but it's still the terminus station for travelling to the city (an example of this maybe Köln Hauptbahnhof). But so far we have been avoiding things such as large metro/subway or commuter stations unless they are the main station in the city.
When people submit the platform count, they should list ALL platforms including those with pass through traffic or attached subway/metro/commuter/suburban platforms - as long as it's fully attached to the main station (whether being underneath or next to it with a direct entrance that doesn't require walking down the street). I really must ask people to clearly state if their figures include any such metro/subway platforms as so many people have just listed a number with no explanation.
Some stations have platforms with "dual" numbers, such as platform 2a and 2b or Platform 2North and 2South. I have been so far counting these as a single platform, but others may see it differently. I think this is one subject that should be discussed.
These are just the rules of what we have been doing so far. Any of it is open to discussion, and changes. One such thought is to also include main stations with less than 10 platforms. I am fine with this, as I believe it will become a more comprehensive list, however, it will also require a lot more work and the list will be much larger. Opinions on this please.
Finally, please don't think I have taken over this thread because of my updated lists. I have just offered to do the table work here. If I make a mistake, bare with me, as it is quite a bit of work, and I only rely on other peoples statistical input.
If you find a station missing, it's because no one has listed accurate data for it yet. I really want to include Penn station, but I have no platform count, and would like an accurate count including the subway platforms.
Vapour April 27th, 2006, 02:15 PM When people submit the platform count, they should list ALL platforms including those with pass through traffic or attached subway/metro/commuter/suburban platforms - as long as it's fully attached to the main station (whether being underneath or next to it with a direct entrance that doesn't require walking down the street). I really must ask people to clearly state if their figures include any such metro/subway platforms as so many people have just listed a number with no explanation.
If we only considered platforms "under the same roof", figures for Japanese stations would be ridiculously low. Large stations in Tokyo and Osaka are quite complex mixing up different companies, shopping malls in between... and sometimes, a bit of "walking down the street" is required.
Justme April 27th, 2006, 03:00 PM If we only considered platforms "under the same roof", figures for Japanese stations would be ridiculously low. Large stations in Tokyo and Osaka are quite complex mixing up different companies, shopping malls in between... and sometimes, a bit of "walking down the street" is required.
Well, I don't think they should be under one roof, as many large stations are made up of several "adjoining" stations, or with underground sections and annexes.
However, if another building seperates a station, without a direct link, or people have to actually leave and walk down the street, then surely it is a seperate station?
mad_nick April 27th, 2006, 04:19 PM How do you define "platform"? Does an island platform with a track on either side count as one or two platforms?
If the latter, Penn Station has 21 platforms for commuter and long distance rail and 8 subway platforms (4 on the 7th Ave line (1,2,3) and 4 on the 8th Ave line(A,C,E)). NJT plans to add 6 or 8 platforms once they build the new Hudson tunnel.
There are 10 more subway platforms one block east that are technically connected to the station by an underground passageway, however the connection has been closed since the 80's.
Atlantic terminal has 6 commuter rail platforms and 10 subway platforms (served by the B,D,M,N,Q,R,2,3,4 and 5 trains)
And Grand Central is connected to 8 subway platforms (Lexington(4), Flushing(2) and 42nd Street Shuttle(2)) in addition to the 44 platforms used for commuter rail.
So the total including subways for Penn Station is 29 platforms, Grand Central has 52 and Atlantic terminal has a total of 16 platforms.
Grand Central: http://world.nycsubway.org/us/metronorth/gct.html
Penn Station: http://world.nycsubway.org/us/njtransit/nec.html
mad_nick April 27th, 2006, 04:33 PM Is Atlantic Terminal really that small? I thought it was much bigger. Shows you how much I know. Wiki said 8 tracks. The thing with Jamaica is that when I lived in Long Island for a while, our train always ended at Jamaica. That was the end of the Line. Then we had to change to another platform to another train to get into Penn. I would always be changing from the newer 2 story trains to the older 1 story flat ones. Thats why i mention it
Some trains terminate at Jamaica, mostly diesel push-pull trains. But far to few for it to considered a terminal.
m@rco April 27th, 2006, 05:20 PM When people submit the platform count, they should list ALL platforms including those with pass through traffic or attached subway/metro/commuter/suburban platforms - as long as it's fully attached to the main station (whether being underneath or next to it with a direct entrance that doesn't require walking down the street). I really must ask people to clearly state if their figures include any such metro/subway platforms as so many people have just listed a number with no explanation.
So concerning Paris's railway stations, we can add:
6 platforms for "Gare St Lazare" : 2 terminus platforms of the metro line http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M14_17.gif and 4 terminus platforms of the RER line http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-E_17.gif (Haussmann-St Lazare)
2 platforms for "Gare d'Austerlitz" : terminus of the metro line http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M10_17.gif
32: Gare St Lazare (Paris)
23: Gare d'Austerlitz (Paris) (there are also 4 underground platforms for the http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-C_17.gif, but they are not terminus)
It's the same for Gare du Nord:
36: Gare du Nord (Paris) (there are also 6 underground platforms for the http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-B_17.gif, http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-D_17.gif and http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-E_17.gif (Magenta station) but they are not terminus)
This is the http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-E_17.gif at the station "Gare St Lazare". We see the number of the platform on the left: 32
http://www.tuby.com/tdv/photos_gdes/127.jpg
There is no bumper on the tracks after the end of the platform because the trains/metros can go to the garage/workshop. Concerning the line 14 & RER E, the tracks will be connected in the future to other lines (line 13 & suburban lines)
Justme April 28th, 2006, 08:35 AM ^ cool, but I'm a bit confused over the numbers above and what I got from wikipedia. e.g. wikipedia listed Gare du Nord with 40 platforms including metro & RER.
Justme April 28th, 2006, 08:38 AM Update: Excellent, so we can finally get some good data for NY and let it rightfully climb up the ladder. I presume Atlantic Terminal is centrally located, as typically, we are only talking about central stations and not large suburban ones. It's in anyway...
52: Grand Central (New York)
40: Gare du Nord (Paris)
39: Munich Hauptbahnhof
36: Waterloo (London)
33: Shinjuku (Tokyo)
33: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof
32: Gare St Lazare (Paris)
30: Gare de l'Est (Paris)
30: Tokyo Station (Tokyo)
29: Penn Station (New York)
29: Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya (Moscow)
28: Gare Montparnasse (Paris)
26: Leipzig Hauptbahnhof
26: Ikebukuro (Tokyo)
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
26: Midi (Brussels)
25: Gare d'Austerlitz (Paris)
25: Ueno (Tokyo)
25: Sydney Central
24: Euston (London)
24: Kings Cross/ St Pancras (London)
24: Tennoji (Osaka)
24: Kyoto
23: Howrah (Calcutta)
23: Victoria (London)
22: Liverpool Street (London)
22: Omiya (Saitama)
22: Gare de Lyon (Paris)
21: Shinagawa (Tokyo)
20: Paddington (London)
19: London Bridge (London)
19: Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof
18: Basel SBB & Basel SNCF
17: Yokohama
17: Shin-Osaka (Osaka)
17: Kazanskiy (Moscow)
17: Leeds City (UK)
16: Charing Cross/Embankment
16: Atlantic Terminal (New York)
16: Glasgow Central
16: Bern Central
16: Sendai
16: Sealdah (Calcutta)
16: Hamburg Hauptbahnhof
15: Kurskiy (Moscow)
15: Southern Cross Station (Melbourne)
15: Rotterdam Centraal
14: Utrecht Centraal
14: Piccadilly station (Manchester)
14: Shibuya (Tokyo)
14: Shimbashi (Tokyo)
14: Kita-senju (Tokyo)
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
14: Gare de Marseille-Saint Charles
14: Luzern (terminal)
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
13: Amsterdam Centraal
12: Kievskiy (Moscow)
12: Den Haag Centraal
12: New Street (Birmingham UK)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Kanayama (Nagoya)
12: Ofuna (Yokohama)
12: Gare de Flandres (Lille)
12: Altona (Hamburg)
12: Sants (Barcelona)
11: Paveletskiy (Moscow)
11: Belarusskiy (Moscow)
10: Olten (Switerland)
10: Iidabashi (Tokyo)
10: Moorgate (London)
10: Roma St (Brisbane)
City Totals for Main Terminus'
194: London
190: Tokyo
177: Paris
97: New York
95: Moscow
74: Osaka
39: Calcutta
39: Munich
32: Frankfurt
28: Hamburg
28: Melbourne
26: Brussels
26: Leipzig
26: Zürich
25: Sydney
19: Stuttgart
18: Basel
17: Leeds
16: Glasgow
16: Bern
15: Rotterdam
14: Manchester
14: Luzern
14: Utrecht
14: Marseille
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
13: Amsterdam
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Birmingham (UK)
12: Den Haag
12: Barcelona
12: Lille
12: Nagoya
12: Yokohama
10: Brisbane
10: Olten (Switzerland)
Ok, so we are still desperate for full NY Accurate numbers for Penn Station (including subway) and any other major central station/terminus (platform count, not track count)
@Coth, Could you do a run down of all the terminus' for Moscow, with platform count, as I am not sure everything is accurate here.
Based on Terminus' with over 10 platforms. Note: Should we start including ALL terminus/Main central stations including those under 10 platforms? Some cities like Berlin may not even get counted as they have multiple smaller stations?
Justme April 28th, 2006, 08:42 AM I notice no one has brought up the discussion of whether we should also include main central Terminus stations under 10 platforms. I would assume this is because we don't want it. Still:
Benifits:
*Allows us to see cities which may have their main stations split up into several smaller ones, rather than 1 grand station.
*Adds all the terminus' which gives the full accurate list
Against:
*Makes for a very long list
*A lot of work.
m@rco April 28th, 2006, 01:15 PM ^ cool, but I'm a bit confused over the numbers above and what I got from wikipedia. e.g. wikipedia listed Gare du Nord with 40 platforms including metro & RER.
Actually I don't know if for "Gare du Nord" all these 40 platforms are in use, that's why I found "only" 36 platforms. In the French version of Wikipedia (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gare_du_Nord_%28Paris%29), it is written 36 platforms and I think there is a gap between 36 and 40 !
But it's sure that these numbers don't take into account neither RER platforms nor subway platforms.
On the other hand, what is sure it's the platforms from 41 to 44 exist: they are used for the http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-B_17.gif and http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-D_17.gif but the trains are not terminus in normal conditions, but it's possible (a "mission code" exists for a terminus at Gare du Nord: "NORD", "NORR", "AUVA", "AUPA"...) in case of perturbation or during the night. It's the same case for the http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-E_17.gif which the station Magenta was constructed further underground to the east of Gare du Nord but these 2 railway stations are connected. I don't want to count subway platforms because there is never a terminus at these subway station (except during a shutdown ;)).
So to summarize and after verification:
42: Nord (Paris), 36 overground platforms fully terminus, 4 underground platforms for the http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-B_17.gif and http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-D_17.gif partially terminus, 2 overground platform (Magenta) for the http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-E_17.gif partially terminus.
32: Saint Lazare (Paris), 27 overground platforms fully terminus, 3 underground platforms for the http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-E_17.gif fully terminus, 2 underground platforms for the http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M14_17.gif. There is also a gap between the platform number 27 and 31 (see picture of the station Haussmann-St Lazare). The station Auber (http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-A_17.gif) is also connected by underground passage to St Lazare but I will not count it.
30: Est (Paris), 30 overground platforms fully terminus.
28: Montparnasse (Paris), 30 overground platforms fully terminus.
27: Austerlitz (Paris), 21 overground platforms fully terminus, 2 underground platforms for the http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M10_17.gif fully terminus, 2 underground platforms for the http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-C_17.gif partially terminus.
22: Lyon (Paris), 18 overground platforms fully terminus, 2 underground platforms for the http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-A_17.gif partially terminus, 2 underground platforms for the http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-D_17.gif partially terminus.
14: Saint Charles (Marseilles)
12: Flandres (Lille)
I hope it's clear... :)
PS : in French, "gare" means "railway station" so can remove this wor of the list
New list:
52: Grand Central (New York)
42: Nord (Paris)
39: Munich Hauptbahnhof
36: Waterloo (London)
33: Shinjuku (Tokyo)
33: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof
32: Saint Lazare (Paris)
30: Est (Paris)
30: Tokyo Station (Tokyo)
29: Penn Station (New York)
29: Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya (Moscow)
28: Montparnasse (Paris)
27: Austerlitz (Paris)
26: Leipzig Hauptbahnhof
26: Ikebukuro (Tokyo)
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
26: Midi (Brussels)
25: Ueno (Tokyo)
25: Sydney Central
24: Euston (London)
24: Kings Cross/ St Pancras (London)
24: Tennoji (Osaka)
24: Kyoto
23: Howrah (Calcutta)
23: Victoria (London)
22: Liverpool Street (London)
22: Omiya (Saitama)
22: Lyon (Paris)
21: Shinagawa (Tokyo)
20: Paddington (London)
19: London Bridge (London)
19: Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof
18: Basel SBB & Basel SNCF
17: Yokohama
17: Shin-Osaka (Osaka)
17: Kazanskiy (Moscow)
17: Leeds City (UK)
16: Charing Cross/Embankment
16: Atlantic Terminal (New York)
16: Glasgow Central
16: Bern Central
16: Sendai
16: Sealdah (Calcutta)
16: Hamburg Hauptbahnhof
15: Kurskiy (Moscow)
15: Southern Cross Station (Melbourne)
15: Rotterdam Centraal
14: Utrecht Centraal
14: Piccadilly station (Manchester)
14: Shibuya (Tokyo)
14: Shimbashi (Tokyo)
14: Kita-senju (Tokyo)
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
14: Saint Charles (Marseilles)
14: Luzern (terminal)
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
13: Amsterdam Centraal
12: Kievskiy (Moscow)
12: Den Haag Centraal
12: New Street (Birmingham UK)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Kanayama (Nagoya)
12: Ofuna (Yokohama)
12: Flandres (Lille)
12: Altona (Hamburg)
12: Sants (Barcelona)
11: Paveletskiy (Moscow)
11: Belarusskiy (Moscow)
10: Olten (Switerland)
10: Iidabashi (Tokyo)
10: Moorgate (London)
10: Roma St (Brisbane)
City Totals for Main Terminus'
194: London
190: Tokyo
181: Paris
97: New York
95: Moscow
74: Osaka
39: Calcutta
39: Munich
32: Frankfurt
28: Hamburg
28: Melbourne
26: Brussels
26: Leipzig
26: Zürich
25: Sydney
19: Stuttgart
18: Basel
17: Leeds
16: Glasgow
16: Bern
15: Rotterdam
14: Manchester
14: Luzern
14: Utrecht
14: Marseille
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
13: Amsterdam
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Birmingham (UK)
12: Den Haag
12: Barcelona
12: Lille
12: Nagoya
12: Yokohama
10: Brisbane
10: Olten (Switzerland)
gruber April 28th, 2006, 02:26 PM New list with Milano Rail terminal stations
52: Grand Central (New York)
42: Nord (Paris)
39: Munich Hauptbahnhof
36: Waterloo (London)
33: Shinjuku (Tokyo)
33: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof
32: Saint Lazare (Paris)
30: Est (Paris)
30: Tokyo Station (Tokyo)
29: Penn Station (New York)
29: Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya (Moscow)
29: Porta Romana (Milan)
28: Montparnasse (Paris)
27: Austerlitz (Paris)
26: Leipzig Hauptbahnhof
26: Ikebukuro (Tokyo)
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
26: Midi (Brussels)
25: Ueno (Tokyo)
25: Sydney Central
24: Stazione Centrale (Milan)
24: Euston (London)
24: Kings Cross/ St Pancras (London)
24: Tennoji (Osaka)
24: Kyoto
23: Howrah (Calcutta)
23: Victoria (London)
22: Liverpool Street (London)
22: Omiya (Saitama)
22: Lyon (Paris)
21: Shinagawa (Tokyo)
20: Porta Garibaldi (Milan)
20: Paddington (London)
19: London Bridge (London)
19: Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof
18: Basel SBB & Basel SNCF
17: Yokohama
17: Shin-Osaka (Osaka)
17: Kazanskiy (Moscow)
17: Leeds City (UK)
16: Charing Cross/Embankment
16: Atlantic Terminal (New York)
16: Glasgow Central
16: Bern Central
16: Sendai
16: Sealdah (Calcutta)
16: Hamburg Hauptbahnhof
15: Kurskiy (Moscow)
15: Southern Cross Station (Melbourne)
15: Rotterdam Centraal
14: Utrecht Centraal
14: Piccadilly station (Manchester)
14: Shibuya (Tokyo)
14: Shimbashi (Tokyo)
14: Kita-senju (Tokyo)
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
14: Saint Charles (Marseilles)
14: Luzern (terminal)
13: Greco-Bicocca (Milan)
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
13: Amsterdam Centraal
12: Kievskiy (Moscow)
12: Den Haag Centraal
12: New Street (Birmingham UK)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Kanayama (Nagoya)
12: Ofuna (Yokohama)
12: Flandres (Lille)
12: Altona (Hamburg)
12: Sants (Barcelona)
11: Porta Genova (Milan)
11: Paveletskiy (Moscow)
11: Belarusskiy (Moscow)
10: Cadorna F.N.M. (Milan)
10: Olten (Switerland)
10: Iidabashi (Tokyo)
10: Moorgate (London)
10: Roma St (Brisbane)
City Totals for Main Terminus'
194: London
190: Tokyo
181: Paris
97: New York
97: Milan
95: Moscow
74: Osaka
39: Calcutta
39: Munich
32: Frankfurt
28: Hamburg
28: Melbourne
26: Brussels
26: Leipzig
26: Zürich
25: Sydney
19: Stuttgart
18: Basel
17: Leeds
16: Glasgow
16: Bern
15: Rotterdam
14: Manchester
14: Luzern
14: Utrecht
14: Marseille
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
13: Amsterdam
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Birmingham (UK)
12: Den Haag
12: Barcelona
12: Lille
12: Nagoya
12: Yokohama
10: Brisbane
10: Olten (Switzerland)
Justme April 28th, 2006, 02:28 PM Thanks M@rco, but please do include the metro platforms. All the other stations include these.
I know they are not terminus platforms, but that's ok. The point was to add up all the platforms - Long Distance, Regional, Commuter, Local at the main stations, where the principle of the main station is the city terminus - however, most of these stations also have through traffic, and in some cases, some cities only have through stations, although one or some of these may be considered terminus's as that's where the intercity passengers disembark (before the train continues on) an example of this would be the new Hauptbahnhof in Berlin.
Hope this helps, so effectively, please add the metro and RER platforms in Paris as all the other cities should have.
:cheers:
Justme April 28th, 2006, 02:29 PM @gruber, brilliant work on Milan, I was trying to find the total number of platforms!
@gruber and M@rco, thanks also for doing the update yourselves! Saves me a lot of work
:cheers:
Minato ku April 28th, 2006, 02:52 PM Paris Railways stations platforms with subway
Gare Du Nord are 46 platformes with subway lines http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M04_17.gif http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M05_17.gif and 48 with the station La Chapelle linehttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M02_17.gif connected at Gare Du Nord
RER lines http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-B_17.gif http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-D_17.gif and http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-E_17.gif
Gare St Lazard are 52 platforms with subway stations connected at Gare St Lazard with lineshttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M03_17.gif 3 stations - http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M07_17.gif http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M08_17.gif http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M09_17.gif2 stations- http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M12_17.gif http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M13_17.gif http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M14_17.gif and RER stations Auberhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-A_17.gif. RER station Haussmann St Lazard http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-E_17.gif
Gare De L'Est are 37 platforms with subway lines http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M04_17.gif http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M05_17.gif http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M07_17.gif 2 stations
Gare Montparnasse are 38 platforms with subway line http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M04_17.gif http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M06_17.gif http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M12_17.gif http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M13_17.gif
Gare Austerliz are 29 platforms with subway lines http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M05_17.gif http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M10_17.gif
RER line http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-C_17.gif
Gare De Lyon are 26 platforms with subway lines http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M01_17.gif http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M14_17.gif
RER lines http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-A_17.gif http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-D_17.gif
m@rco April 28th, 2006, 03:02 PM Paris Railways stations platforms with subway
Please, don't mix everything, we are talking about "terminus"...
Thank you ;)
EDIT : Sorry, I didn't read Justme's message. It's not my point of view but if everybody count all platforms...
New update:
18: Saint Charles (Marseilles), 14 overground platforms fully terminus, 4 underground platforms (on the same level) for the lines L1 & L2, no terminus.
http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/mar/mars-st-charles1.jpg
16: Flandres (Lille), 12 overground platforms fully terminus, 4 underground platforms for the subway lines L1 & L2, no terminus.
In Lille, shall I also count tramway's platforms ? ;)
Josh April 28th, 2006, 03:13 PM Brussel-Zuid/Bruxelles-Midi
22 platforms
2 metro platforms
2 premetro platforms
250.000 passengers per day
Brussel-Centraal/Bruxelles-Centrale
6 platforms
2 metro platforms
2 premetro platforms
140.000 passengers per day
Brussel-Noord/Bruxelles-Nord
12 platforms
2 premetro platforms
100.000 passengers per day
Yardmaster April 28th, 2006, 03:22 PM thanks to Everyone who has contributed to this thread.' especially JustMe , M@rco & Vapour.
To address a number of questions:
I certainly don't claim to "own" this thread because I posted here first. The thread belonngs to the SSC community
The object (on my part) here was never to count the number of buffers or dead-end tracks for any station or city: it was to provide a reliable index of the size of the infrastructure, firstly for any individual city, and then for individual station, to establish the leading players.
Hence, Jamaica Queens, NY & Clapton Junction UK only count tracks and/or platforms that have already been counted (I've been told some trains terminate at Jamaica: same at various suburban stations here in Melbourne Australia).
I see no reason why small terminal stations in various cities (but notably New York) should not be included in the overall tally for the city as a whole, but to make the overall exercise manageable, maybe they should be summed together as "Other Terminals (New York)".
I wonder about the situation in Tokyo. Tokyo station leads to the north through Ueno & south through Shinagawa. To the west, Shinjuku station leads north through Ikebukoro, and south through Shibuya. All six of these stations have been included in the Tokyo total, but if traffic is essentially just running through to Shinjuku and Tokyo, then they're being judged on a very different basis to stations in other large metropolises.
I also wonder about Chiba. I would have thought it was essentially a Tokyo outer suburb. I have a sister-in-law who comes from Chiba, but my Japanese is lousy, and her English could improve, so I won't try to pursue such semantic subtleties except here on SSC.
We still have nothing from Beijing , or anywhere else from China... I know Beijing has a huge station and I'm sure there are many others that outstrip Brisbane. is this site blocked there? :) Of course not! There are regular contributors from the PRC!
Also ... no contributions from Chicago - or Washington- or Boston- or anywhere else in the US. None from Canada? None from Africa? None from Latin America?
People are adding in Underground/Metro platforms here (see the posting two above!), which raises many cans of worms.
What is Metro (or whatever you choose to call it ... U-Bahn, S-Bahn etc. ). The truth is in Australian cities, suburban or commuter railways do what "MRT" does in many other cities ... in Sydney 8-car double decker trains trundle under the city at 2-minute intervals. In this city (Melbourne) the tram/light rail system (which I've totally excluded here) boasts at least 29 routes and moves almost as many people as "commuter rail". In Amsterdam, the central parts of that are underground.
Thanks again to Justme, for keeping tab of things ... pity Vbasic didn't have a table function.
Yardmaster April 28th, 2006, 03:46 PM further to my last posting ... if "platforms" which regularly function to run several trains in, e.g. from opposite directions, are counted as one, then we shouldn't count platforms which really aren't in regularly in use.
I guess what I particularly have in my sights here is Grand Central NY with it's (current) total of 52 platforms. How many arrivals & departures per day? And are the Metro tracks included in this?
The other area I particularly wonder about at the moment is Tokyo ... see previous posting.
Melbourne ... Ultimately, Railway Capital of the world :jk: :cheers:
(sadly, we had a rail accident this afternoon which killed two people, injured several dozen others, and wiped out one of our new high-speed trains)
coth April 28th, 2006, 05:01 PM @Coth, Could you do a run down of all the terminus' for Moscow, with platform count, as I am not sure everything is accurate here.
i can try again
belarusskiy vokzal (4 phisically through platforms. de facto terminus. same as kurskiy vokzal just few trains per day goes to another lines)
4 through platforms in metro
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/8902/belarusskiy3yz.jpg
kazanskiy, leningradskiy and yaroslavskiy and 2 through platforms on kalanchevkaya
4 through platforms in metro
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5633/kazanskiy2bf.jpg
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7176/leningradskiyandyaroslavskiy5p.jpg
kievskiy (9 phisically through platforms. de facto terminus. very few trains goes beyond station. it is few commuter trains per day that shares two lines: rizhskoye - kurskoye/nizhegorodskoye directions, belarusskoye - kurskoye/nizhegorodskoye directions)
6 through platforms in metro
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/5092/kievskiy4oq.jpg
kurskiy
6 through platforms in metro
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/6466/kurskiy9wi.jpg
paveletskiy
4 through platforms in metro
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9775/paveletskiy0pl.jpg
rizhskiy
2 through platforms in metro
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2125/rizhskiy6xs.jpg
savelovskiy
2 through platforms in metro
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7421/savelovskiy1ci.jpg
metro is not connected to other rail networks.
gruber April 28th, 2006, 05:18 PM are you talkin' just only of railway station for passengers?
or also for commercial railway station?
in Milan there is a terminus station with more than 120 ways!
today is only used for commerce, but from 2008 it will became also a passenger station along the Suburban Lines.
http://i3.tinypic.com/wlx8uo.jpg
Yardmaster April 28th, 2006, 07:30 PM are you talkin' just only of railway station for passengers?
or also for commercial railway station?
in Milan there is a terminus station with more than 120 ways!
today is only used for commerce, but from 2008 it will became also a passenger station along the Suburban Lines.
Very impressive photo above! ^^ You're not talking about the RAILWAY CAPITAL of The WORLD are You? Looks like a freight terminal to me!
GuyFromMoss April 28th, 2006, 10:40 PM Oslo Central Station has 19 tracks.
cazswell April 28th, 2006, 11:08 PM thanks to Everyone who has contributed to this thread.' especially JustMe , M@rco & Vapour.
To address a number of questions:
Also ... no contributions from Chicago - or Washington- or Boston- or anywhere else in the US. None from Canada? None from Africa? None from Latin America?
There are none from Canada yet because most of Canada's largest stations (ex. Toronto, Montreal, Winnepeg) are all through stations, not terminals. Montreal does, I believe, have a smaller terminal-style station, and so does Vancouver. I think this may also be the case for Chicago, but I'm not sure, so don't quote me on this.
Yardmaster April 28th, 2006, 11:36 PM Oslo Central Station has 19 tracks.
You're not boring, mate , (as you suggested) ... this is what we want to chalk up.
Yardmaster April 28th, 2006, 11:48 PM There are none from Canada yet because most of Canada's largest stations (ex. Toronto, Montreal, Winnepeg) are all through stations, not terminals. Montreal does, I believe, have a smaller terminal-style station, and so does Vancouver. I think this may also be the case for Chicago, but I'm not sure, so don't quote me on this.
OK, look what we've said about Penn Central. The basic question is: how many platforms does Toronto, Montreal, Winnipeg, Vancouver, Ottawa, Quebec, Chigago, Seatttle, etc. use each day or at least each week to dispatch & recieve trains?
Clashman April 29th, 2006, 04:07 PM Most of China's stations are also through stations. To be honest, (coming from the U.S., mind you), when I was in China I was just like "woah, they still use trains here!". Some of these European stations, however, just blow me away. I can't think of anything at the moment that would give these stations a real run for their money, but I'll see if I can dig up some pictures. Specs aren't going to be from me, though, because I don't know them.
Clashman April 29th, 2006, 04:15 PM Actually, since I don't have too many shots of railway stations, I'm just going to direct you to a thread that does. Check it out here:
http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=340615
I believe the largest in China is currently Beijing West, (the big tall ugly one), but the thread seemed to indicate that Shanghai South will take over that rank once completed.
DiggerD21 April 29th, 2006, 07:29 PM The Data for Hamburg Hauptbahnhof is wrong.
It has 14 tracks: platform 1-4 for the S-Bahn, track 9-10 for freight rail and with no platform, platform 5-8 and 10-14 for commuter and long distance rail.
Additionally 8 U-Bahn platforms, of which two are without tracks and not operational.
So counting only operational platforms accessible to the public you get 18. Counting all you get 22.
One more thing: How do you define "busiest terminus"? By the number of trains stopping there or by the number of passengers daily/annualy? Counting the first Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof is probably the biggest in Germany, counting the latter Hamburg Hauptbahnhof is the biggest in Germany (up to 450.000 passengers per day).
GNU April 29th, 2006, 07:52 PM ^^ How many passengers does Frankfurt have daily?
I think its 350.000 isnt it?
And are these only passengers who use the train or do they also count the people who use the commuter trains and the underground?
Pindakaas April 29th, 2006, 08:14 PM ^^
The Netherlands, the big four
15: Rotterdam Centraal 13 platforms + 2 metro platforms
14: Utrecht Centraal 14 platforms
13: Amsterdam Centraal: 11 platforms + 2 metro platforms
12: Den Haag Centraal: 12 platforms
I havent read all of the thread, so i don't know if its corrected already. But Utrecht centraal is bigger, i dont know the exact numbers, but its 18 or something.
Also, alot of platforms are divided in A and B (or more, i dont know), do they count as one or more?
Pindakaas April 29th, 2006, 08:16 PM I just found the exact number for Utrecht, its 19
Pindakaas April 29th, 2006, 08:17 PM Oops, only 14 of them are actuallyplatforms, sorry Momo. Im gonna stop now......
ScHoKoApFeL April 29th, 2006, 10:02 PM Berlin's biggest passenger rail terminals:
Berlin Lehrter Hauptbahnhof (May 2006):
300.000 passengers/day expected
East-West:
1-4 commuter + long distance rail
5-6 S-Bahn
North-South (underground):
6-14 commuter + long distance rail
+2 tracks for U-Bahn (U55)
Berlin Südkreuz/Papestraße (May 2006):
East-West:
1-2 S-Bahn
North-South:
3-4 S-Bahn
5-8 commuter + long distance rail
Berlin Nordkreuz/Gesundbrunnen (May 2006):
1-4 S-Bahn
4-10 commuter + long distance rail (not sure about that though)
+2 tracks for U-Bahn
Berlin Ostbahnhof (East-Station):
120.000 passengers/day
1-3, 6, 7 commuter + long distance rail
8-11 S-Bahn
Berlin Zoologischer Garten:
160.000 passengers/day
1-4 commuter + long distance rail
5-6 S-Bahn
+4 tracks for U-Bahn
Berlin Spandau:
1-4 commuter + long distance rail
5-6 S-Bahn
+2 tracks for U-Bahn
Berlin Lichtenberg:
85.000 passengers/day
1-2 S-Bahn
15-22 commuter + long distance rail
+2 tracks for U-Bahn
Berlin Wannsee:
1-2 S-Bahn
3-4 commuter + long distance rail
commuter rail / S-Bahn only stations:
Berlin Charlottenburg:
1-4 commuter rail
5-6 S-Bahn
+2 tracks for U-Bahn
Berlin Friedrichstraße:
120.000 passengers/day
1-4 commuter rail
5-6 S-Bahn
+2 tracks for S-Bahn underground
+2 tracks for U-Bahn
Berlin Alexanderplatz:
120.000 passengers/day
1-2 commuter rail
3-4 S-Bahn
+6 tracks for U-Bahn
Berlin Potsdamer Platz (May 2006):
2 tracks for commuter rail
2 tracks for S-Bahn underground
+2 tracks for U-Bahn
There are even some other commuter rail/S-Bahn only stations (for example Hohenschönhausen). I did not list them in here, because they are not really important.
And for Frankfurt/Munich:
Frankfurt Südbahnhof:
1-4 S-Bahn
5-9 commuter + long distance rail
+2 tracks for U-Bahn
München/Munich Ostbahnhof:
1-4 S-Bahn
5-8, 11-14 commuter + long distance rail
+2 (4?) tracks for U-Bahn
Unsing April 30th, 2006, 05:45 AM The real terminal station in Tokyo is only Tokyo Station, I think. 6 shinkansen lines and 4 commuter lines terminate. Only 3 commuter lines terminate at Shinjuku and Shibuya, 2 at Ikebukuro, 2 at Ueno, 1 at Shimbashi, 0 at Shinagawa, Kita-Senju and Iidabashi.
Yokmohama, Chiba, Omiya, Odawara and Omiya are outer suburbs.
DiggerD21 April 30th, 2006, 05:55 AM ^^ How many passengers does Frankfurt have daily?
I think its 350.000 isnt it?
And are these only passengers who use the train or do they also count the people who use the commuter trains and the underground?
That's what I want to know too. According to the DB-Website (http://www.db.de/site/bahn/de/unternehmen/bahnwelt/bauprojekte/bahnhoefe__stellwerke/hallendachsanierung__ffm.html) the numbers for Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof (350.000) seem to be for all trains and S-Bahnen stopping in the station.
I haven't found more specific data for Hamburg Hauptbahnhof, but I can imagine that it is incl. U-Bahn.
EDIT: I have found the data for Germany's 20 biggest railstations.
I german only though (http://www.bahnhof.de/site/bahnhoefe/de/start.html)
The amount of platforms must be including U-Bahn, S-Bahn and non-public platforms, and platforms are counted once, even if they have tracks on both sides (platform in german: "Bahnsteig", but also "Gleis" (track, rail), additionally both ends of a "Bahnsteig" can get different numbers which leads to the fact that one platform can have up to 4 "Gleise").
Otherwise I can't explain the low number of platforms for stations like Berlin-Ostbahnhof, Bremen and Hannover and the high number for Dresden. Also the number for Hamburg Hauptbahnhof would be a bit too low.
So according to above source you would come to this list (sorted by amount of platforms, then passengers/day), excluding u/c Berlin Hauptbahnhof:
Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof: 27 platforms, 350.000 passengers and visitors
Karlsruhe Hauptbahnhof: 27 platforms, 55.000
Leipzig Hauptbahnhof: 26 platforms, 150.000
München Hauptbahnhof (Munich): 18 platforms, 350.000
Dresden Hauptbahnhof: 16 platforms, 50.000
Hamburg Hauptbahnhof: 11 platforms, 450.000
Nürnberg Hauptbahnhof (Nuremberg): 11 platforms, 130.000
Köln Hauptbahnhof (Cologne): 10 platforms, 250.000
Düsseldorf Hauptbahnhof: 8 platforms, 250.000
Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof: 8 platforms, 220.000
Dortmund Hauptbahnhof: 8 platforms, 125.000
Hannover Hauptbahnhof: 6 platforms, 250.000
Essen Hauptbahnhof: 6 platforms, 174.000
Duisburg Hauptbahnhof: 6 platforms, 82.000
Bremen Hauptbahnhof: 5 platforms, 100.000
Hamburg-Altona: 5 platforms, 98.000
Mannheim Hauptbahnhof: 5 platforms, 76.000
Mainz Hauptbahnhof: 5 platforms, 55.000
Berlin- Zoologischer Garten: 3 platforms, 200.000
Berlin-Ostbahnhof: 3 platforms, 120.000
Momo1435 April 30th, 2006, 08:26 AM Karlsruhe Hauptbahnhof: 27 platforms, 55.000
This one can't be true, Karlsruhe has "only" 18 platforms, counting them on the map (http://www.bahnhof.de/site/bahnhoefe/zubehoer__assets/de/dateianhaenge/bahnhofsplan__karlsruhe.pdf) of the station (also from the same DB source). In the facts and figures they must have made a mistake with the number of platforms and the shops/restaurants in the station
Kngkyle April 30th, 2006, 05:06 PM New York - Grand Central Station - 500,000 Passengers Per Day - 44 Platforms/67 Tracks
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/Grand_Central_Station_Main_Concourse_Jan_2006.jpg/800px-Grand_Central_Station_Main_Concourse_Jan_2006.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/v3/17/494717/2/47962068.GrandCentral.jpg
DiggerD21 April 30th, 2006, 05:12 PM @momochan:
Yeah, I see it. I also wondered why such a small city would have such a huge central station.
I have the impression that they counted the platforms differently on each station, or they were too dumb to count.
Now counting them as seen on the maps (platform = Gleis):
Munich: 32, excl. S-Bahn and U-Bahn (but where are platforms 1-4? I assume S-Bahn?)
Frankfurt: 24, excl. S-Bahn and U-Bahn
Nuremberg: 21 excl. U-Bahn (where are 10 and 11?)
Leipzig: 24
Karlsruhe: 18 (1-14 + 101-104)
Stuttgart: 17, excl. S-Bahn and U-Bahn
Bremen: 17 (but 8 of them don't have a number?)
Hamburg HBF: 14, incl S-Bahn, excl. U-Bahn
Hannover: 14, excl. U-Bahn
Berlin-Ostbahnhof: 9, incl. S-Bahn (1-3 and 6-11, where are platform no. 4 and 5?)
Mannheim: 9 (1-5 and 7-10, where is platform no.6?)
Mainz: 8 (1-6, 8 and 11, where are 7, 9 and 10?
Berlin-Zoo: 6, incl. S-Bahn, excl. U-Bahn
Hamburg-Altona: (no map available)
Berlin HBF: (no map available)
Dresden: (no map available)
I give up. It's a mess if even DB can't count their own platforms!
nick_taylor April 30th, 2006, 06:38 PM Kngkyle - How come no pictures of the actual platforms at Grand Central ;)
mad_nick April 30th, 2006, 07:21 PM ^
Grand Central platforms:
http://images.nycsubway.org//i46000/img_46652.jpg
http://images.nycsubway.org//i27000/img_27143.jpg
http://images.nycsubway.org//i46000/img_46650.jpg
Penn Station platforms:
http://images.nycsubway.org//i40000/img_40531.jpg
http://images.nycsubway.org//i40000/img_40533.jpg
http://images.nycsubway.org//i40000/img_40702.jpg
Minato ku May 1st, 2006, 01:31 AM Ugly station and ugly trains
I don't like Grand Central station
Paris Gare De Lyon
http://www.lavaurs.com/pic/0874/08.jpg
http://photoenligne.free.fr/ParisXII/GaredeLyon/N1659.jpg
http://photoenligne.free.fr/ParisXII/GaredeLyon/N1691.jpg
http://www.lacoctelera.com/myfiles/isaacb/garedelyon.jpg
http://unerevolution.canalblog.com/images/Panneau_Gare_de_Lyon.jpg
http://www.johnnyjet.com/images/PicForNewsletterIrelandSept2005ParisBlueTrainRestGareDeLyonStation.JPG
http://rebellog.com/graphics/france/main/fran163.JPG
Kngkyle May 1st, 2006, 01:57 AM ^ this topic isnt about the prettiest passenger rail terminal.
Isaac Newell May 1st, 2006, 02:01 AM I didn't realise LIRR trains ran into Grand Central, thought they only ran into Penn.
Tubeman May 1st, 2006, 02:02 AM Ugly station and ugly trains
I don't like Grand Central station
Are you on drugs or something?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/Grand_Central_Station_Main_Concourse_Jan_2006.jpg/800px-Grand_Central_Station_Main_Concourse_Jan_2006.jpg
:|
The platforms look like any subway station platform, granted, but Grand Central is staggeringly beautiful inside otherwise.
mad_nick May 1st, 2006, 02:38 AM I didn't realise LIRR trains ran into Grand Central, thought they only ran into Penn.
It doesn't, only the first three pictures are of Grand Central platforms, the last three are of Penn Station platforms. (I'll edit the post to more clearly reflect that fact)
Yardmaster May 1st, 2006, 11:40 AM Time for an updated list.
From what you guys said above, I've added Marseille, Lille, Berlin, Brussels, Oslo, Karlsruhe, Dresden, Nuremberg, Cologne and Berlin.
There were other German cities/stations that had totals below 10 that I left out. I have gone through everything in the the thread above in detail (hence no changes to Moscow or Tokyo), and I've left out Spandau and Berlin Zoo ... no doubt there'll be some contention about this! Unfortunately my best map of Berlin dates from the 1980's. also there were various opinions about German cities, and in general I've taken the first one ... I'll read on later.
I also grouped the data a bit, and for those who want to accumulate national totals but are geographically challenged, I stuck national names on the remainder of the city list. Enjoy! :)
Lille's listed twice ... well there are other corrections to be made as well!
How about
instead of filling the thread up with endless replications of the full list though,
post any comments, photos, maps, objections, or updates,
But let's only update the full (consolidated) lists once every day or whatever ... (or else the thread gets pretty boring)! Anyone agree?
It's 9:40 something AM in Amsterdam !
______________________________________________
Largest Stations:
30 platforms or more (10)
52: Grand Central (New York)
42: Nord (Paris)
39: Munich Hauptbahnhof
36: Waterloo (London)
33: Shinjuku (Tokyo)
33: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof
32: Saint Lazare (Paris)
30: Est (Paris)
30: Tokyo Station (Tokyo)
25-29 Platforms(11 Stations)
29: Penn Station (New York)
29: Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya (Moscow)
29: Porta Romana (Milan)
28: Montparnasse (Paris)
27: Austerlitz (Paris)
27: Karlsruhe Hauptbahnhof
26: Leipzig Hauptbahnhof
26: Ikebukuro (Tokyo)
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
25: Sydney Central
25: Ueno (Tokyo)
20-25 Platforms (14 Stations):
24: Stazione Centrale (Milan)
24: Euston (London)
24: Kings Cross/ St Pancras (London)
24: Tennoji (Osaka)
24: Kyoto
23: Howrah (Calcutta)
23: Victoria (London)
22: Liverpool Street (London)
22: Omiya (Saitama)
22: Bruxelles-Midi
22: Lyon (Paris)
21: Shinagawa (Tokyo)
20: Porta Garibaldi (Milan)
20: Paddington (London)
15-19 Platforms (21 Stations)
19: London Bridge (London)
19: Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof
19: Oslo Central
18: Basel SBB & Basel SNCF
18: St Charles (Marseille)
17: Yokohama
17: Shin-Osaka (Osaka)
17: Kazanskiy (Moscow)
17: Leeds City (UK)
16: Charing Cross/Embankment
16: Atlantic Terminal (New York)
16: Glasgow Central
16: Bern Central
16: Sendai
16: Sealdah (Calcutta)
16: Flandres (Lille)
16: Hamburg Hauptbahnhof
16: Dresden Hauptbahnhof
15: Kurskiy (Moscow)
15: Southern Cross Station (Melbourne)
15: Rotterdam Centraal
10-14 Platforms (35 Stations)
14: Utrecht Centraal
14: Piccadilly station (Manchester)
14: Shibuya (Tokyo)
14: Shimbashi (Tokyo)
14: Kita-senju (Tokyo)
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
14: Saint Charles (Marseilles)
14: Luzern (terminal)
14: Berlin Lehrter Hauptbahnhof
13: Greco-Bicocca (Milan)
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
13: Amsterdam Centraal
12: Kievskiy (Moscow)
12: Den Haag Centraal
12: New Street (Birmingham UK)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Kanayama (Nagoya)
12: Ofuna (Yokohama)
12: Flandres (Lille)
12: Altona (Hamburg)
12: Sants (Barcelona)
12: Bruxelles-Nord
11: Porta Genova (Milan)
11: Paveletskiy (Moscow)
11: Belarusskiy (Moscow)
11: Berlin Ostbahnhof (East-Station)
11: Nürnberg Hauptbahnhof
10: Cadorna F.N.M. (Milan)
10: Berlin Nordkreuz/Gesundbrunnen
10: Olten (Switerland)
10: Iidabashi (Tokyo)
10: Moorgate (London)
10: Roma St (Brisbane)
10: Köln Hauptbahnhof
City Totals for Main Terminii
Grouped in 10's
194: London (UK)
190: Tokyo (Japan)
181: Paris (France)
97: New York (USA)
97: Milan (Italy)
95: Moscow (Russia)
74: Osaka (Japan)
43: Berlin (Germany)
39: Calcutta (Kolkutta) (India)
39: Munich (Germany)
32: Frankfurt (Germany)
28: Hamburg (Germany)
28: Melbourne (Australia)
26: Brussels (Belgium)
27: Karlsruhe (Germany)
26: Leipzig (Germany)
26: Zürich (Switzerland)
25: Sydney (Australia)
19: Stuttgart (Germany)
19: Oslo (Norway)
18: Basel (Switzerland)
18: Marseille (France)
17: Leeds (UK)
16: Glasgow (UK)
16: Bern (Switzerland)
16: Lille (France)
16: Dresden (Germany)
15: Rotterdam (Netherlands)
14: Manchester (UK)
14: Luzern (Switzerland)
14: Utrecht (Netherlands)
14: Marseille (France)
14: Chiba (Japan)
14: Odawara (Japan)
13: Amsterdam (Netherlands)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Birmingham (UK)
12: Den Haag (The Hague) (Netherlands)
12: Barcelona (Spain)
12: Lille (France)
12: Nagoya (Japan)
12: Yokohama (Japan)
11: Nürnberg (Nurenberg)
10: Brisbane (Australia)
10: Olten (Switzerland)
10: Köln (Cologne) (Germany)
nick_taylor May 1st, 2006, 12:35 PM I'm confused - how did London Waterloo get 36 platforms? Are we including metro lines and connecting lines as well?
London Waterloo (including interchanges)
Commuter: 19
Eurostar: 6
Underground: 8
Waterloo East: 4
Southwark: 2
Total: 39
London King's Cross St Pancras
King's Cross: 11
St Pancras: 5 (expanding to 13 u/c)
Underground: 8
Thameslink: 2
Total: 26 (34)
London Euston
Commuter: 18
Underground: 6
Total: 24
London Victoria
Commuter: 19
Underground: 4
Total: 23
London Liverpool Street
Commuter: 18
Underground: 4
Total: 22
London Paddington
Commuter: 14
Underground: 6
Total: 20
London Bridge
Commuter: 15
Underground: 4
Total: 19
London Charing Cross
Commuter: 6
Underground: 10
Total: 16
London Moorgate
Total: 10
GNU May 1st, 2006, 05:35 PM whats all the talk about platforms?
There are big stations with many platforms which dont get many travelers, as for example Leipzig.
Modern stations like Lehrter bahnhof in Berlin are designed to use a minimal number of platforms efficiently.
Yardmaster May 1st, 2006, 06:06 PM whats all the talk about platforms?
There are big stations with many platforms which dont get many travelers, as for example Leipzig.
Modern stations like Lehrter bahnhof in Berlin are designed to use a minimal number of platforms efficiently.
In my humble part of the world, at any given station there are tracks where you can get on and off a train (here, always above track level) . These are platforms.
There are also tracks which are just used for switching locos, passing trains through etc. ... you can't legitimately or safely get on at these tracks.
I accept the point that some platforms (or stations) might be much busier than others, both in terms of traffic and in terms of passengers, and I did address these issues at the start of the thread. However, there's been so much difficulty here defining what is in or out as a platform, that I suggest a traffic or passenger throughput heirarchy should constitute another (but related!) thread.
If you really want to pursue the issue, where is the busiest platform? My guess is Mumbai (or Tokyo!)
GENIUS LOCI May 1st, 2006, 06:07 PM 24: Stazione Centrale (Milan)
The number is refferring just to the station: there are even 4 platforms of metro to add
20: Porta Garibaldi (Milan)
Plus 4 platforms of metro (2 not used) and 2 platforms of underground S-lines (suburban railway)
In next years other 4 platforms are forecasted to be built of two new metro lines
11: Porta Genova (Milan)
To add 2 platforms of metro
10: Cadorna F.N.M. (Milan)
To add 4 platforms of metro
(obviously in the computation of platforms I added just metro and undergound suburban railways service - in Passante ferroviario tunnel; trams are not in the computation)
But there are other stations to add to Milan's list
- Milano Lambrate:
12 platforms + 2 platforms of metro
- Milano Rogoredo:
8 platforms + 2 platforms of metro
Then there are others with 8-7-6 platforms (as Bovisa FNM or Certosa Fs), but I'll keep 'em out 'cause was said not to compute stations with less of 10 platforms
Yardmaster May 1st, 2006, 06:28 PM The number is refferring just to the station: there are even 4 platforms of metro to add
Plus 4 platforms of metro (2 not used) and 2 platforms of underground S-lines (suburban railway)
In next years other 4 platforms are forecasted to be built of two new metro lines
To add 2 platforms of metro
To add 4 platforms of metro
(obviously in the computation of platforms I added just metro and undergound suburban railways service - in Passante ferroviario tunnel; trams are not in the computation)
But there are other stations to add to Milan's list
- Milano Lambrate:
12 platforms + 2 platforms of metro
- Milano Rogoredo:
8 platforms + 2 platforms of metro
Then there are others with 8-7-6 platforms (as Bovisa FNM or Certosa Fs), but I'll keep 'em out 'cause was said not to compute stations with less of 10 platforms
I sent you a PM, Gollum! Post us a map!
GENIUS LOCI May 1st, 2006, 06:39 PM Once there was in Milan even Porta Vittoria Station, dismissed decades ago
It had up to 20 platforms
here a pic of the station dismissed yet
http://www.beic.it/associazione/art2-5.gif
Now they've torn the station down to build a gigantic Library
http://www.peis.com/lizio/immagini/milano-beic.jpg
But underground in the same place there are 4 new platforms wich work
They 're the 4 platforms of the underground station of S-lines (suburban service)
http://www.cempi.it/images/porta-vittoria.jpg
Yardmaster May 1st, 2006, 07:09 PM ^^ the surface finishings look very good.
However, what we'd like - across Italy- are the no. of platforms given over to "suburban", commuter, regional and long distance rail, irregardless of whether the tracks terminate in any given city or not, provided we don't count them twice..
Vapour May 1st, 2006, 07:31 PM Ok, can we clear up which of these are actually terminus'
32: Nagoya
21: Namba (Osaka)
16: Hakata (Fukuoka)
14: Sapporo
13: Kawasaki
12: Yurakucho/Hibiya (Tokyo)
12: Nagano
10: Akihabara (Tokyo)
10: Otemachi (Tokyo)
10: Nagatacho/Akasakamitsuke (Tokyo)
10: Utsunomiya
and
17: Okayama
16: Oyama
15: Takasaki
15: Fukushima
14: Nigata
14: Morioka
13: Toyohashi
13: Koriyama
13: Shinyamaguchi (Yamaguchi)
12: Nishifunabashi (Funabashi)
12: Hiroshima (trams not included)
10: Akita
Then I'll add them to the list. Looks as though Tokyo will top the table with the most platforms of major terminus'
As Frungy and others have pointed out, there're no "terminus stations" as such in Japan. Tokyo station is where shinkansen lines end, but commuter lines and the subway just go through. Shibuya is the terminus for Keio Inokashira, Ginza line and Tokyu Toyoko, but JR and Hanzomon/Denentoshi go through; Ikebukuro, Yokohama and Umeda are terminus for one or two private rail operators, but again have other lines going through.
Therefore I'd include Japanese stations just as "big ones", taking into account that few of them (if any) is really a 100% "terminus" one.
Kentigern May 1st, 2006, 07:52 PM The city totals for main termini should be updated for Glasgow - Glasgow Central = 16, Queen Street = 10, total 26.
GENIUS LOCI May 1st, 2006, 08:27 PM I sent you a PM, Gollum! Post us a map!
Just a coupple of Milan's rail network
http://www.trail.unioncamerelombardia.it/mappe//mappe_vuote/pMI.jpg
http://www.trail.unioncamerelombardia.it/mappe//mappe_ferrovie/fMI.jpg
This map shows the rail ring, but without the railtracks of FNM (Ferrovie Nord Milano), a company wich has its own network linking the city with all Lombardy: its terminal main station in the city is Cadorna... even if things are a bit different after the rail cross-by tunnel opened)
http://www.trail.unioncamerelombardia.it/Upload/immagini/fs213701.jpg
Here a map with railring, metros and the underground rail link (the one in blue) used for suburban connections, aka Passante
http://www.metroetram.altervista.org/metropolitane/milano/passante/foto/mappa_100.jpg
P.S.
I just remembered that Stazione Centrale (which trains level is elevated respect the ground level) has not only the 24 platforms for passangers; there other 24 platforms at "ground level" used (at least once used: I don't know actually if they 're in use anymore) for goods trains
In the road tunnels which cross the station (wich railways run on an elevated structure of 2.5 km of lenght and 600 m width!) you can even see the rail tracks to cross the street under the tunnel; they come out by other tunnels (quite always closed with gates) which run under the station structure and its "open-air" rails
It 's quite an interesting aspect of this incredible station I do not know very well and want to deepen
And if I 'll find something interesting I' ll post you, if you 're interested in, don't worry ;)
Anyway, if these rails are still workin' or not, surely when Stazione Centrale opened (in 1939) it had 24 platforms for passengers only and 24 platforms for goods trains all workin': that means 48 platforms! :eek:
http://dipeco.economia.unimib.it/capabilities/imgs/central_station.jpg
http://www.franklippold.de/assets/images/db_images/db_Mailand_Bahnhof_11.jpg
Nice old postcard (maybe of '30s) of the vaults of Centrale
http://i21.ebayimg.com/03/i/03/4f/69/40_1_b.JPG
BenL May 1st, 2006, 08:45 PM I concur. *Shakes head*
BenL May 1st, 2006, 08:51 PM It's nice that you agree. Please in future type in a normal sized font in black and try to speak in proper English. Cheers.
Momo1435 May 1st, 2006, 09:01 PM Come on, there are some basic rules around here, speak normal, write normal and don't be stupid!
:down:
Mod's please delete the posts from Naddy G an d my reply, because this is bad for the forum.
Momo1435 May 1st, 2006, 09:13 PM Grow up
BenL May 1st, 2006, 09:16 PM I understand but there's no need to write things like "on a ril" and "2006" at the end of your posts. Please try and write in a normal font as it's easier for people to read it and it messes up the look of the forum. Hopefully the London Olympics will regenerate Straford and improve education etc. Can a mod please delete his posts?
Momo1435 May 1st, 2006, 09:23 PM My name and date are in the left upper corner of my post.
coth May 1st, 2006, 09:23 PM can't you speak normally with normal size black font and without insults?
CharlieP May 1st, 2006, 10:11 PM City Totals for Main Terminii
That's the second time today I've seen somebody spell termini with a double I - why is it such a commonly-made mistake? :?
Yardmaster May 1st, 2006, 10:16 PM Re Milano ... we- the People's Council- have decided that any goods-handling tracks or facilities are not relevant here, and should be referred to an alternate thread. Possible exceptions might be made for mail and parcels exclusively loaded onto what are essentially passenger trains. :bash:
Pity about those lost facilities.
Yardmaster May 1st, 2006, 10:46 PM That's the second time today I've seen somebody spell termini with a double I - why is it such a commonly-made mistake? :?
I dunno, CharlieP ... that was the way I was taught to spell it, and, in the absence of a Dictionary, I tried Google and just got 25,600 hits on "terminii". I always thought it was like "radii" and other plurals derived from Latin.
There may be some national differences ... colour, color, grey, gray, etc.
(now you're going to say that you got more hits on "termini" but look what the hits actually relate to!)
Yardmaster May 1st, 2006, 11:07 PM soz for ma discrepencies stated above. i didnt mean any disrespect for the mandems jus intrested in the skrapes
Naddy G, many of the people in this forum come from places like Tokyo and Moscow, and even Bukhara, Chengdu,and Bogota, where English is not the native language, but they survive admirably here.
There are are other forums here for people who can't speak English.
I have seen Ali G., but never on this site, and I doubt I ever will. I've never heard his opinion on architecture. Or anything, really. I guess he's just a comedian.
BenL May 1st, 2006, 11:17 PM Shows the British education system is really failing...
Tubeman May 2nd, 2006, 01:51 AM @ Naddy G
I live on a council estate in King's Cross and I don't write like a twat
By all means enjoy the forums, but write in recognisable English and in a normal size / colour font please.
Justme May 2nd, 2006, 10:29 AM Great additions. And finally a good view of Milan. I knew there were several other major stations circling the central city area but couldn't find details on them.
Once we get this complete, we should add it to wikipedia or something, make good use of all this research!
GNU May 2nd, 2006, 02:32 PM In my humble part of the world, at any given station there are tracks where you can get on and off a train (here, always above track level) . These are platforms.
Ok.
btw I wasnt asking for a definition of a platform.
I was just pointing out that there are many stations that have been built at the turn of the century. These stations usually have a large number of platforms simply because in those days you couldnt operate rail traffic as efficiently as today.
So my point is that the number of platforms dont really give an exact indication of how many travellers there are per day or about how big a station is.
As I said there are modern stations for example in Germany,Japan and France that have been designed to handle a lot of traffic with a small number of platforms.
Stations nowadays dont need these large numbers of platforms.
Justme May 2nd, 2006, 03:17 PM Ok.
btw I wasnt asking for a definition of a platform.
I was just pointing out that there are many stations that have been built at the turn of the century. These stations usually have a large number of platforms simply because in those days you couldnt operate rail traffic as efficiently as today.
So my point is that the number of platforms dont really give an exact indication of how many travellers there are per day or about how big a station is.
As I said there are modern stations for example in Germany,Japan and France that have been designed to handle a lot of traffic with a small number of platforms.
Stations nowadays dont need these large numbers of platforms.
Still, one of the principle needs for more platforms is if a station handles through traffic, or if it's the end of the line. A station that has end of line tracks requires far more platforms than a through station, as the train can leave immediately in the opposite direction.
GENIUS LOCI May 2nd, 2006, 03:26 PM I noticed in the list there is lack of Italian cities (Milan apart)
Let's start with Rome
Roma Termini Station got 29 platforms
http://www.activitaly.it/monument/imago/62.jpg
There are other main stations in Rome like Tiburtina or Ostiense, but I have to find data on 'em
Anyway some Rome's railway map
http://www.virtualrome.com/mappe/fm.gif
http://www.italferr.it/english/EN_allegati/nodo_roma_big.jpg
http://www.tav.it/img/nodoromaG(1).jpg
http://www.urbanistica.comune.roma.it/sezionihtml/allegati/pianta_2.jpg
GNU May 2nd, 2006, 03:26 PM Here are some future trainstation projects in Germany
Essen (Rhein-Rhur) / sadly this proposal has been rejected. the station could be finished in 2010 though
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/7919/hbf5kv.jpg
Dortmund (Rhein-Rhur) will be finished in 2009
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/904/40233do.jpg
http://3do.dortmund.de/upload/binarydata_do4ud4cms/64/02/09/00/00/00/90264/3do_ansicht_sued.419x269.jpg
http://hometown.aol.de/DonDario3/3do+Dortmund2.jpg
the old proposal
http://humanhub.nl/3DO_UFO_byday.jpg
stuttgart 21 / its not sure yet if its going to be realized
http://www.stuttgart.de/sde/global/images/verweise/amt13/images/stuttgart21b.jpg
http://www.dayandlight.de/projekte/s21/S21_01.jpg
2 proposals for the new station in munich
http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/Galerie/data/503/18HBF_1.jpg
http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/Galerie/data/503/18HBF_2.jpg
GNU May 2nd, 2006, 03:33 PM Still, one of the principle needs for more platforms is if a station handles through traffic, or if it's the end of the line. A station that has end of line tracks requires far more platforms than a through station, as the train can leave immediately in the opposite direction.
thats true. But many new stations adopt the pass-through option as its just more efficient.
Justme May 2nd, 2006, 04:10 PM thats true. But many new stations adopt the pass-through option as its just more efficient to handle.
That's true, but this isn't a thread about efficiency. We could start another for that, but how hard would that be to catagorize on an international scale.
This is simply a thread on platform numbers for large centrally located stations which act, at least in part as a terminus for traffic. Large through stations can be included (such as Köln) but yes, they would have less platforms. However, often, these platforms have a dual numbering system (e.g. platform 3a and 3b, for terminating trains in each direction)
GNU May 2nd, 2006, 04:14 PM That's true, but this isn't a thread about efficiency. We could start another for that, but how hard would that be to catagorize on an international scale.
sure. But we want to find out how many passengers a station handles and how big it is.
All Im saying is that you cant just count the platforms to get the picture.
Justme May 2nd, 2006, 05:26 PM sure. But we want to find out how many passengers a station handles and how big it is.
All Im saying is that you cant just count the platforms to get the picture.
That would be an interesting statistical list, but that is certainly a different thread. Passenger movements are not handled in this thread, it's about platforms.
It would also be a real difficult list to complete for accurate international comparisons. Different cities use different methods for calculating passenger movement. Some include estimates on all people passing through the station (including non passengers), others use ticket or gate sales. Some include through passengers, others only embarking or disembarking passengers, some just use estimates etc.
Yardmaster May 3rd, 2006, 02:27 PM I noticed in the list there is lack of Italian cities (Milan apart)
Let's start with Rome
Roma Termini Station got 29 platforms
<snip> (see original posting)
There are other main stations in Rome like Tiburtina or Ostiense, but I have to find data on 'em
Anyway some Rome's railway map
<snip> (see original posting)]
http://www.tav.it/img/nodoromaG(1).jpg
<snip> (see original posting)
Thanks Genius Loci. I am sure we could do with more Italian data!
On the basis of the map above, I'd include Roma Termini, San Pietro & Tiburtina, but not Trastavere, Ostiense, and Tuscolama in a count for Rome. The reason: the three last-named, on the basis of the map above, are stations through which traffic flows to "somewhere more important", whereas the three first-named are places where trains terminate, or make their principal port of call for Rome.
I'm not trying to be mean here, I'm only trying to apply uniform standards (note that I discounted platforms at Southern Cross Melbourne and ruled out Clapton Junction London & Jamaica NY (or wherever they want to call it), amongst others). If we don't do this, we'll be adding up hundreds of platforms at suburban locations: for instance: in Sydney: how many platforms in total between Central and Parramatta? About 100. Do they count? No! Only in the "Metroplois with most platforms overall" thread!
That said, I'm only going by your map of Rome. Let me know if you think I'm wrong.
GENIUS LOCI May 3rd, 2006, 04:10 PM ^^
Infact San Pietro is not at all a terminal station: pratically it is used only as stop of suburban trains
I knew Tiburtina and Ostiense are the two main train station (e.g. Tiburtina will be the main train-station for HS trains)
Then, apart Termini, there are other two "terminus" train stations in Rome (not reported on the map above): Roma Nord and Roma Ostia
But they're tottally local trains (infact they wanted to reconvert both the lines in metro, or metro-like) and they 're not big stations, I think Roma Nord has 4 platforms and Roma-Lido probably 6
But, as I said they are the terminus of just one line each one and are too small to be in the computation
Yardmaster May 3rd, 2006, 04:35 PM ^^
Infact San Pietro is not at all a terminal station: pratically it is used only as stop of suburban trains
I knew Tiburtina and Ostiense are the two main train station (e.g. Tiburtina will be the main train-station for HS trains)
Then, apart Termini, there are other two "terminus" train stations in Rome (not reported on the map above): Roma Nord and Roma Ostia
But they're tottally local trains (infact they wanted to reconvert both the lines in metro, or metro-like) and they 're not big stations, I think Roma Nord has 4 platforms and Roma-Lido probably 6
But, as I said they are the terminus of just one line each one and are too small to be in the computation
Well, that map does show a yellow "line" terminating" at Tiburtina & a grey line teminating at San Pietro ... what do you suggest? I think one of the other maps you posted made this more obvious. I don't really care whether they're local services or not.
do you see why I don't want to count Trastavere etc. ?
Yardmaster May 3rd, 2006, 05:11 PM There seem to be 2 main lines running through Tokyo north South:
the first runs (sth to nth)
Shingawa (21 platforms)
Shinbashi (11 platforms)
Tokyo (30 platforms)
Ueno (25 platforms).
west of this, the Yamanote line runs:
Shibuya (14 platforms)
Shinjuku (33 platforms)
Ikebukuro (25 platforms).
All platform counts from this thread!
There are MANY other lines as well!
If we apply the criteria being used elsewhere, we would count:
all platforms at Shinjuku (inc. Keioh New Line) & Tokyo
only those platforms at Shibuya for the Keioh Inokashira,& Tokyu (Setagaya, Den-en Toshi & Toyoko) lines
only those platforms at Shinagawa for the Keihin Keyuko line & the Toei Asakusa Line
only those platforms at Ikebukuro for the Seibbu Ikebukuro & Tobu Tojo Lines
just Keisei Mainline platforms at Ueno.
just Yorikamome line platforms at Shinbashi
Beyond that:
Kita senju looks like another "Clapton Junction", but the Tobu Isesaki line should be counted somewhere! And so, indeed should a few other lines!
Any comments? :)
mad_nick May 4th, 2006, 10:44 PM Hoboken Terminal in Hoboken, NJ (Accross the river from Manhattan):
17 platforms for commuter rail (NJT)
3 subway platforms (PATH)
3 light rail platforms (HBLR)
Total: 20 or 23 platforms depending on whether light rail should be included.
HeMo May 8th, 2006, 04:51 PM In Vienna the following stations handle international and national inter city services (I still need to find all the stats though):
- Westbahnhof: 7 mainline platforms (11 tracks) & 2 underground platforms (4 tracks)
- Süd/Ostbahnhof: 5 platf. (10 tracks)/5 platf. (9 tracks) & 2 S-Bahn platforms and tracks
- Nordbahnhof:
- Franz Josefs Bahnhof
In Suburban traffic these stations play an important role:
- Wien Hütteldorf
- Wien Meidling
- Wien Heiligenstadt
- Wien Mitte
Bitxofo May 9th, 2006, 02:13 AM Update:
Largest Stations:
30 platforms or more (10)
52: Grand Central (New York)
42: Nord (Paris)
39: Munich Hauptbahnhof
36: Waterloo (London)
33: Shinjuku (Tokyo)
33: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof
32: Saint Lazare (Paris)
30: Est (Paris)
30: Tokyo Station (Tokyo)
25-29 Platforms(11 Stations)
29: Penn Station (New York)
29: Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya (Moscow)
29: Porta Romana (Milan)
28: Montparnasse (Paris)
27: Austerlitz (Paris)
27: Karlsruhe Hauptbahnhof
26: Leipzig Hauptbahnhof
26: Ikebukuro (Tokyo)
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
25: Sydney Central
25: Ueno (Tokyo)
20-25 Platforms (15 Stations):
24: Stazione Centrale (Milan)
24: Euston (London)
24: Kings Cross/ St Pancras (London)
24: Tennoji (Osaka)
24: Kyoto
23: Howrah (Calcutta)
23: Victoria (London)
22: Madrid Chamartín
22: Liverpool Street (London)
22: Omiya (Saitama)
22: Bruxelles-Midi
22: Lyon (Paris)
21: Shinagawa (Tokyo)
20: Porta Garibaldi (Milan)
20: Paddington (London)
15-19 Platforms (21 Stations)
19: London Bridge (London)
19: Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof
19: Oslo Central
18: Basel SBB & Basel SNCF
18: St Charles (Marseille)
17: Yokohama
17: Shin-Osaka (Osaka)
17: Kazanskiy (Moscow)
17: Leeds City (UK)
16: Charing Cross/Embankment
16: Atlantic Terminal (New York)
16: Glasgow Central
16: Bern Central
16: Sendai
16: Sealdah (Calcutta)
16: Flandres (Lille)
16: Hamburg Hauptbahnhof
16: Dresden Hauptbahnhof
15: Kurskiy (Moscow)
15: Southern Cross Station (Melbourne)
15: Rotterdam Centraal
10-14 Platforms (38 Stations)
14: Barcelona França
14: Madrid Puerta de Atocha
14: Utrecht Centraal
14: Piccadilly station (Manchester)
14: Shibuya (Tokyo)
14: Shimbashi (Tokyo)
14: Kita-senju (Tokyo)
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
14: Saint Charles (Marseilles)
14: Luzern (terminal)
14: Berlin Lehrter Hauptbahnhof
14: Barcelona Sants
13: Greco-Bicocca (Milan)
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
13: Amsterdam Centraal
12: Kievskiy (Moscow)
12: Den Haag Centraal
12: New Street (Birmingham UK)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Kanayama (Nagoya)
12: Ofuna (Yokohama)
12: Flandres (Lille)
12: Altona (Hamburg)
12: Sants (Barcelona)
12: Bruxelles-Nord
11: Porta Genova (Milan)
11: Paveletskiy (Moscow)
11: Belarusskiy (Moscow)
11: Berlin Ostbahnhof (East-Station)
11: Nürnberg Hauptbahnhof
10: Cadorna F.N.M. (Milan)
10: Berlin Nordkreuz/Gesundbrunnen
10: Olten (Switerland)
10: Iidabashi (Tokyo)
10: Moorgate (London)
10: Roma St (Brisbane)
10: Köln Hauptbahnhof
City Totals for Main Terminii
194: London (UK)
190: Tokyo (Japan)
181: Paris (France)
97: New York (USA)
97: Milan (Italy)
95: Moscow (Russia)
74: Osaka (Japan)
43: Berlin (Germany)
39: Calcutta (Kolkutta) (India)
39: Munich (Germany)
36: Madrid (Spain)
32: Frankfurt (Germany)
28: Barcelona (Spain)
28: Hamburg (Germany)
28: Melbourne (Australia)
26: Brussels (Belgium)
27: Karlsruhe (Germany)
26: Leipzig (Germany)
26: Zürich (Switzerland)
25: Sydney (Australia)
19: Stuttgart (Germany)
19: Oslo (Norway)
18: Basel (Switzerland)
18: Marseille (France)
17: Leeds (UK)
16: Glasgow (UK)
16: Bern (Switzerland)
16: Lille (France)
16: Dresden (Germany)
15: Rotterdam (Netherlands)
14: Manchester (UK)
14: Luzern (Switzerland)
14: Utrecht (Netherlands)
14: Marseille (France)
14: Chiba (Japan)
14: Odawara (Japan)
13: Amsterdam (Netherlands)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Birmingham (UK)
12: Den Haag (The Hague) (Netherlands)
12: Lille (France)
12: Nagoya (Japan)
12: Yokohama (Japan)
11: Nürnberg (Nurenberg)
10: Brisbane (Australia)
10: Olten (Switzerland)
10: Köln (Cologne) (Germany)
coth May 9th, 2006, 02:34 AM 104 for moscow
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=8239681&postcount=132
plus why not count 3 central stations square into one?
http://maps.google.com/?q=moscow&ll=55.776139,37.655661&spn=0.00735,0.024955&t=h&om=1
10 platforms on leningradskiy vokzal
16 platforms on yaroslavskiy vokzal
18 platforms on kazanskiy vokzal
2 platforms on kalanchevskaya station
Vapour May 10th, 2006, 04:29 PM ^All the updates are skipping Nagoya's main station at 32 or 31 (the figure I got) tracks.
As for city totals: (no real termini)
43: Nagoya (Japan)
29: Yokohama (Japan)
chix4free May 10th, 2006, 05:32 PM Hi guys, this is my first post on this forum
As a Frenchman and Parisian, I'm happy to see Paris is among the most important places in the world for railroads and tracks.
As an ex-Philadelphian though, I guess you should add Philly's 30th Street Station which has a total of 14 passenger tracks.
Here are a few pics of this typically American station located near the Schuylkill river.
http://www.soulofamerica.com/images/photospa/30th_Street_station.jpg
http://www.trainweb.org/railpix/ampix/DCP_3436-30th-street-sta-6-1-02.jpg
http://www.2400chestnut.com/images/30thstreet.jpg
http://personalwebs.myriad.net/lruback/Philly/AMTK/AMTK_Philly_PennCoachYd01.jpg
http://www.trainweb.org/railpix/ampix/DCP_1581-30thst-upper1-9-8-01.jpg
http://robertpence.com/phila/46_septa.jpg
http://www.northeastroads.com/pennsylvania075/i-076_eb_exit_344_02.jpg
Bitxofo May 10th, 2006, 05:54 PM New update:
Largest Stations:
30 platforms or more (10)
52: Grand Central (New York)
42: Nord (Paris)
39: Munich Hauptbahnhof
36: Waterloo (London)
33: Shinjuku (Tokyo)
33: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof
32: Saint Lazare (Paris)
30: Est (Paris)
30: Tokyo Station (Tokyo)
25-29 Platforms(11 Stations)
29: Penn Station (New York)
29: Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya (Moscow)
29: Porta Romana (Milan)
28: Montparnasse (Paris)
27: Austerlitz (Paris)
27: Karlsruhe Hauptbahnhof
26: Leipzig Hauptbahnhof
26: Ikebukuro (Tokyo)
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
25: Sydney Central
25: Ueno (Tokyo)
20-25 Platforms (15 Stations):
24: Stazione Centrale (Milan)
24: Euston (London)
24: Kings Cross/ St Pancras (London)
24: Tennoji (Osaka)
24: Kyoto
23: Howrah (Calcutta)
23: Victoria (London)
22: Madrid Chamartín (Spain)
22: Liverpool Street (London)
22: Omiya (Saitama)
22: Bruxelles-Midi
22: Lyon (Paris)
21: Shinagawa (Tokyo)
20: Porta Garibaldi (Milan)
20: Paddington (London)
15-19 Platforms (21 Stations)
19: London Bridge (London)
19: Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof
19: Oslo Central
18: Basel SBB & Basel SNCF
18: St Charles (Marseille)
17: Yokohama
17: Shin-Osaka (Osaka)
17: Kazanskiy (Moscow)
17: Leeds City (UK)
16: Charing Cross/Embankment
16: Atlantic Terminal (New York)
16: Glasgow Central
16: Bern Central
16: Sendai
16: Sealdah (Calcutta)
16: Flandres (Lille)
16: Hamburg Hauptbahnhof
16: Dresden Hauptbahnhof
15: Kurskiy (Moscow)
15: Southern Cross Station (Melbourne)
15: Rotterdam Centraal
10-14 Platforms (38 Stations)
14: Barcelona França (Spain)
14: Madrid Puerta de Atocha (Spain)
14: Utrecht Centraal
14: Piccadilly station (Manchester)
14: Shibuya (Tokyo)
14: Shimbashi (Tokyo)
14: Kita-senju (Tokyo)
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
14: Saint Charles (Marseilles)
14: Luzern (terminal)
14: Berlin Lehrter Hauptbahnhof
14: Barcelona Sants (Spain)
13: Greco-Bicocca (Milan)
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
13: Amsterdam Centraal
12: Kievskiy (Moscow)
12: Den Haag Centraal
12: New Street (Birmingham UK)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Kanayama (Nagoya)
12: Ofuna (Yokohama)
12: Flandres (Lille)
12: Altona (Hamburg)
12: Sants (Barcelona)
12: Bruxelles-Nord
11: Porta Genova (Milan)
11: Paveletskiy (Moscow)
11: Belarusskiy (Moscow)
11: Berlin Ostbahnhof (East-Station)
11: Nürnberg Hauptbahnhof
10: Cadorna F.N.M. (Milan)
10: Berlin Nordkreuz/Gesundbrunnen
10: Olten (Switerland)
10: Iidabashi (Tokyo)
10: Moorgate (London)
10: Roma St (Brisbane)
10: Köln Hauptbahnhof
City Totals for Main Terminii
194: London (UK)
190: Tokyo (Japan)
181: Paris (France)
97: New York (USA)
97: Milan (Italy)
95: Moscow (Russia)
74: Osaka (Japan)
43: Berlin (Germany)
43: Nagoya (Japan)
39: Calcutta (Kolkutta) (India)
39: Munich (Germany)
36: Madrid (Spain)
32: Frankfurt (Germany)
29: Yokohama (Japan)
28: Barcelona (Spain)
28: Hamburg (Germany)
28: Melbourne (Australia)
26: Brussels (Belgium)
27: Karlsruhe (Germany)
26: Leipzig (Germany)
26: Zürich (Switzerland)
25: Sydney (Australia)
19: Stuttgart (Germany)
19: Oslo (Norway)
18: Basel (Switzerland)
18: Marseille (France)
17: Leeds (UK)
16: Glasgow (UK)
16: Bern (Switzerland)
16: Lille (France)
16: Dresden (Germany)
15: Rotterdam (Netherlands)
14: Manchester (UK)
14: Luzern (Switzerland)
14: Utrecht (Netherlands)
14: Marseille (France)
14: Chiba (Japan)
14: Odawara (Japan)
13: Amsterdam (Netherlands)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Birmingham (UK)
12: Den Haag (The Hague) (Netherlands)
12: Lille (France)
12: Nagoya (Japan)
12: Yokohama (Japan)
11: Nürnberg (Nurenberg)
10: Brisbane (Australia)
10: Olten (Switzerland)
10: Köln (Cologne) (Germany)
chix4free May 10th, 2006, 06:10 PM Largest Stations:
30 platforms or more (10)
52: Grand Central (New York)
42: Nord (Paris)
39: Munich Hauptbahnhof
36: Waterloo (London)
33: Shinjuku (Tokyo)
33: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof
32: Saint Lazare (Paris)
30: Est (Paris)
30: Tokyo Station (Tokyo)
25-29 Platforms(11 Stations)
29: Penn Station (New York)
29: Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya (Moscow)
29: Porta Romana (Milan)
28: Montparnasse (Paris)
27: Austerlitz (Paris)
27: Karlsruhe Hauptbahnhof
26: Leipzig Hauptbahnhof
26: Ikebukuro (Tokyo)
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
25: Sydney Central
25: Ueno (Tokyo)
20-25 Platforms (15 Stations):
24: Stazione Centrale (Milan)
24: Euston (London)
24: Kings Cross/ St Pancras (London)
24: Tennoji (Osaka)
24: Kyoto
23: Howrah (Calcutta)
23: Victoria (London)
22: Madrid Chamartín (Spain)
22: Liverpool Street (London)
22: Omiya (Saitama)
22: Bruxelles-Midi
22: Lyon (Paris)
21: Shinagawa (Tokyo)
20: Porta Garibaldi (Milan)
20: Paddington (London)
15-19 Platforms (21 Stations)
19: London Bridge (London)
19: Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof
19: Oslo Central
18: Basel SBB & Basel SNCF
18: St Charles (Marseille)
17: Yokohama
17: Shin-Osaka (Osaka)
17: Kazanskiy (Moscow)
17: Leeds City (UK)
16: Charing Cross/Embankment
16: Atlantic Terminal (New York)
16: Glasgow Central
16: Bern Central
16: Sendai
16: Sealdah (Calcutta)
16: Flandres (Lille)
16: Hamburg Hauptbahnhof
16: Dresden Hauptbahnhof
15: Kurskiy (Moscow)
15: Southern Cross Station (Melbourne)
15: Rotterdam Centraal
10-14 Platforms (38 Stations)
14: Barcelona França (Spain)
14: Madrid Puerta de Atocha (Spain)
14: Utrecht Centraal
14: Piccadilly station (Manchester)
14: Shibuya (Tokyo)
14: Shimbashi (Tokyo)
14: Kita-senju (Tokyo)
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
14: Saint Charles (Marseilles)
14: Luzern (terminal)
14: Berlin Lehrter Hauptbahnhof
14: Barcelona Sants (Spain)
14 : 30th Street Station (Philadelphia, PA)
13: Greco-Bicocca (Milan)
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
13: Amsterdam Centraal
12: Kievskiy (Moscow)
12: Den Haag Centraal
12: New Street (Birmingham UK)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Kanayama (Nagoya)
12: Ofuna (Yokohama)
12: Flandres (Lille)
12: Altona (Hamburg)
12: Sants (Barcelona)
12: Bruxelles-Nord
11: Porta Genova (Milan)
11: Paveletskiy (Moscow)
11: Belarusskiy (Moscow)
11: Berlin Ostbahnhof (East-Station)
11: Nürnberg Hauptbahnhof
10: Cadorna F.N.M. (Milan)
10: Berlin Nordkreuz/Gesundbrunnen
10: Olten (Switerland)
10: Iidabashi (Tokyo)
10: Moorgate (London)
10: Roma St (Brisbane)
10: Köln Hauptbahnhof
City Totals for Main Terminii
194: London (UK)
190: Tokyo (Japan)
181: Paris (France)
97: New York (USA)
97: Milan (Italy)
95: Moscow (Russia)
74: Osaka (Japan)
43: Berlin (Germany)
43: Nagoya (Japan)
39: Calcutta (Kolkutta) (India)
39: Munich (Germany)
36: Madrid (Spain)
32: Frankfurt (Germany)
29: Yokohama (Japan)
28: Barcelona (Spain)
28: Hamburg (Germany)
28: Melbourne (Australia)
26: Brussels (Belgium)
27: Karlsruhe (Germany)
26: Leipzig (Germany)
26: Zürich (Switzerland)
25: Sydney (Australia)
19: Stuttgart (Germany)
19: Oslo (Norway)
18: Basel (Switzerland)
18: Marseille (France)
17: Leeds (UK)
16: Glasgow (UK)
16: Bern (Switzerland)
16: Lille (France)
16: Dresden (Germany)
15: Rotterdam (Netherlands)
14: Manchester (UK)
14: Luzern (Switzerland)
14: Utrecht (Netherlands)
14: Marseille (France)
14: Chiba (Japan)
14: Odawara (Japan)
13: Amsterdam (Netherlands)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Birmingham (UK)
12: Den Haag (The Hague) (Netherlands)
12: Lille (France)
12: Nagoya (Japan)
12: Yokohama (Japan)
11: Nürnberg (Nurenberg)
10: Brisbane (Australia)
10: Olten (Switzerland)
10: Köln (Cologne) (Germany)
coth May 10th, 2006, 06:14 PM http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=8384653&postcount=199
106 for moscow
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=8239681&postcount=132
plus why not count 3 central stations square into one?
http://maps.google.com/?q=moscow&ll=55.776139,37.655661&spn=0.00735,0.024955&t=h&om=1
10 platforms on leningradskiy vokzal
16 platforms on yaroslavskiy vokzal
18 platforms on kazanskiy vokzal
2 platforms on kalanchevskaya station
other
11 platforms on belaruskiy vokzal
12 platforms on kievskiy vokzal
11 platforms on paveletskiy vokzal
14 platforms on kurskiy vokzal
4 on rizhskiy vokzal
8 on savelovskiy vokzal
total: 106 (104 on central stations and 2 on station that considering end of line)
Justme May 30th, 2006, 03:44 PM Having just been to Köln (Cologne) last weekend, one of the stations I stopped on was Bahnhof Köln Messe/Deutz. This is just across the river from the Hauptbahnhof and I believe it qualifies for this list as it seemed to have over 10 stations, and is used as a stop for Köln on the ICE (intercity trains). In fact, the ICE3, the fasted train in Germany stops here from Frankfurt or Düsseldorf. Does anyone know how many stations this actually has? Also, I fear the Köln Hauptbahnhof number of 10 doesn't include the U-bahn. Is this true?
Oberleutnant May 30th, 2006, 04:20 PM Something to add to the list:
(central) Helsinki Railway Station, which has 19 platforms
NicoArgentina May 30th, 2006, 06:07 PM Buenos Aires main stations shoud be added to the list too! I could only get a few pics of 2 stations, Contitución and Retiro. Both are being restored, and they both handle a large number of passengers (they serve a 12 million people city)
Constitución
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7493/const3mj3my.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Retiro
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8499/retiro9pt.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8261/retiroest9zi.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/1900/subteretiro6jc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2228/estacionretiro0239zi.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/5697/estacionretiro0115cs.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Justme May 30th, 2006, 06:55 PM @NicoArgentina, Yes, they certainly should. But we need statistics to add to the list. If you can find out the platform count for each station (including any subway/metro platforms as well)
Great photos by the way.
NicoArgentina May 30th, 2006, 07:39 PM @NicoArgentina, Yes, they certainly should. But we need statistics to add to the list. If you can find out the platform count for each station (including any subway/metro platforms as well)
Great photos by the way.
Here I have some info. Constitución handles 600 thousand passengers a day and has 16 platforms. Retiro 300 thousand, 18 platforms, and Once 400 thousand and 10 platforms (no pics of this station)
Kngkyle May 30th, 2006, 08:07 PM Ok Chicago has 4 Major stations.
Union Station being the largest with 30 platforms:
http://a1668.g.akamaitech.net/7/1668/33/427982c1ff314a/images.citysearch.com/feature/15400/concourse_level.gif
There are 3 other stations that i do not know the number of platforms, maybe someone else has the time to find out?
They are:
Ogilvie Transportation Center (Satellite: Here (http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&sll=41.878788,-87.640219&sspn=0.001753,0.003594&q=Ogilvie+Transportation+Center&ll=41.883453,-87.639967&spn=0.003507,0.007188&t=k&om=1) )
LaSalle Street Station (Satellite: Here (http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&sll=41.883509,-87.639967&sspn=0.00373,0.007188&q=LaSalle+Street+Station&ll=41.874314,-87.63177&spn=0.003731,0.007188&t=k&om=1) )
Randolph Street Terminal/Millennium Station
panamaboy9016 May 30th, 2006, 08:26 PM Nice to know...You French have a lot to offer..Frace est cool...Oui France est tres cool..Le francais est un langue tres belle...et tres interessante..
ChrisH May 30th, 2006, 09:49 PM Reading (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reading_railway_station) (UK) has 12 platforms, and is the junction of 5 railway lines :)
It's a big bottleneck and there are plans (http://www.railnews.co.uk/news.aspx?id=2605) to expand it to 14 platforms over the next few years.
Justme May 30th, 2006, 10:55 PM Updated
Largest Stations:
30 platforms or more (10)
52: Grand Central (New York)
42: Nord (Paris)
39: Munich Hauptbahnhof
36: Waterloo (London)
33: Shinjuku (Tokyo)
33: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof
32: Saint Lazare (Paris)
30: Est (Paris)
30: Tokyo Station (Tokyo)
30: Union Station (Chicago)
25-29 Platforms(11 Stations)
29: Penn Station (New York)
29: Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya (Moscow)
29: Porta Romana (Milan)
28: Montparnasse (Paris)
27: Austerlitz (Paris)
27: Karlsruhe Hauptbahnhof
26: Leipzig Hauptbahnhof
26: Ikebukuro (Tokyo)
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
25: Sydney Central
25: Ueno (Tokyo)
20-25 Platforms (15 Stations):
24: Stazione Centrale (Milan)
24: Euston (London)
24: Kings Cross/ St Pancras (London)
24: Tennoji (Osaka)
24: Kyoto
23: Howrah (Calcutta)
23: Victoria (London)
22: Madrid Chamartín (Spain)
22: Liverpool Street (London)
22: Omiya (Saitama)
22: Bruxelles-Midi
22: Lyon (Paris)
21: Shinagawa (Tokyo)
20: Porta Garibaldi (Milan)
20: Paddington (London)
15-19 Platforms (21 Stations)
19: London Bridge (London)
19: Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof
19: Helsinki Central
19: Oslo Central
18: Retiro (Buenos Aires)
18: Basel SBB & Basel SNCF
18: St Charles (Marseille)
17: Yokohama
17: Shin-Osaka (Osaka)
17: Kazanskiy (Moscow)
17: Leeds City (UK)
16: Charing Cross/Embankment (UK)
16: Constitución (Buenos Aires)
16: Atlantic Terminal (New York)
16: Glasgow Central
16: Bern Central
16: Sendai
16: Sealdah (Calcutta)
16: Flandres (Lille)
16: Hamburg Hauptbahnhof
16: Dresden Hauptbahnhof
15: Kurskiy (Moscow)
15: Southern Cross Station (Melbourne)
15: Rotterdam Centraal
10-14 Platforms (38 Stations)
14: Barcelona França (Spain)
14: Madrid Puerta de Atocha (Spain)
14: Utrecht Centraal
14: Piccadilly station (Manchester)
14: Shibuya (Tokyo)
14: Shimbashi (Tokyo)
14: Kita-senju (Tokyo)
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
14: Saint Charles (Marseilles)
14: Luzern (terminal)
14: Berlin Lehrter Hauptbahnhof
14: Barcelona Sants (Spain)
14 : 30th Street Station (Philadelphia, PA)
13: Greco-Bicocca (Milan)
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
13: Amsterdam Centraal
12: Kievskiy (Moscow)
12: Den Haag Centraal
12: New Street (Birmingham UK)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Kanayama (Nagoya)
12: Ofuna (Yokohama)
12: Flandres (Lille)
12: Altona (Hamburg)
12: Sants (Barcelona)
12: Bruxelles-Nord
12: Reading (UK)
11: Porta Genova (Milan)
11: Paveletskiy (Moscow)
11: Belarusskiy (Moscow)
11: Berlin Ostbahnhof (East-Station)
11: Nürnberg Hauptbahnhof
10: Cadorna F.N.M. (Milan)
10: Berlin Nordkreuz/Gesundbrunnen
10: Olten (Switerland)
10: Iidabashi (Tokyo)
10: Moorgate (London)
10: Roma St (Brisbane)
10: Köln Hauptbahnhof
10: Once (Buenos Aires)
City Totals for Main Terminii
194: London (UK)
190: Tokyo (Japan)
181: Paris (France)
97: New York (USA)
97: Milan (Italy)
95: Moscow (Russia)
74: Osaka (Japan)
44: Buenos Aires (Argentina)
43: Berlin (Germany)
43: Nagoya (Japan)
39: Calcutta (Kolkutta) (India)
39: Munich (Germany)
36: Madrid (Spain)
32: Frankfurt (Germany)
30: Chicago (USA)
29: Yokohama (Japan)
28: Barcelona (Spain)
28: Hamburg (Germany)
28: Melbourne (Australia)
26: Brussels (Belgium)
27: Karlsruhe (Germany)
26: Leipzig (Germany)
26: Zürich (Switzerland)
25: Sydney (Australia)
19: Helsinki (Finland)
19: Stuttgart (Germany)
19: Oslo (Norway)
18: Basel (Switzerland)
18: Marseille (France)
17: Leeds (UK)
16: Glasgow (UK)
16: Bern (Switzerland)
16: Lille (France)
16: Dresden (Germany)
15: Rotterdam (Netherlands)
14: Manchester (UK)
14: Luzern (Switzerland)
14: Utrecht (Netherlands)
14: Marseille (France)
14: Chiba (Japan)
14: Odawara (Japan)
13: Amsterdam (Netherlands)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Birmingham (UK)
12: Den Haag (The Hague) (Netherlands)
12: Lille (France)
12: Nagoya (Japan)
12: Yokohama (Japan)
12: Reading (UK)
11: Nürnberg (Nurenberg)
10: Brisbane (Australia)
10: Olten (Switzerland)
10: Köln (Cologne) (Germany)
NorthStar77 May 30th, 2006, 11:27 PM Oslo Centralstation is connected to Jernbanetorget metro-station, both with stairs/escalators/elevators and a walk-tunnel directly between the tracks at the train-station and metro-station. Metro-drivers also announce that next stop is Oslo S/Jernbanetorget(the few times one can actually understand what they say), so it is definitely right to include it. So therefore 19+2=21 tracks for Oslo Central.
I've been trying to find statistics for Oslo Central-station, but all I could find was this, from 2000:
*Number of trains per day: 865
*Number of passenger-trains per day: 796
*Number of passengers per week, localtrains only: 250.000
From the last figure, I'm guessing it's something like 45.000 per weekday and 10.000 in the weekend, although that is rediculously low, imo. In addition though, there are atleast 10.000 passengers on the airport-express-train each day, and some ten thousands from medium and long distance trains.
Here are some photos
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/jernbane_st.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/Oslo_S.jpg
Some of my photos. I took the two first ones a couple of years ago, from a bus:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/E18/P1010116.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/E18/P1010110.jpg
A couple of photos I took during christmas, therefore so dark. Not easy to see it, but this is the main entrance
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/desember/Bilde211.jpg
This used to be "Řstbanen", the old eastern terminus, before Oslo Central was built. Now it is one of the entrances, and also a shopping-mall
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/desember/Bilde198.jpg
A photo I took about 2 years ago
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/oslo/Picture021.jpg
Here's an image of Jernbanetorget metrostation
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Jernbanetorget.jpg/800px-Jernbanetorget.jpg
m@rco May 31st, 2006, 11:40 AM According to these posts: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=8237266&postcount=123, http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=8237901&postcount=125, http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=8238148&postcount=127, http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=8238251&postcount=128 and if we count mertro stations (I don't understand why, but if it is the rule...), concerning France, the list is not up to date (be careful, what minato ku said, all was not correct).
For Saint Lazare I don't count the http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-A_17.gif (Auber stattion) and the metro lines http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M07_17.gif, http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M08_17.gif (Opéra station).
So,
48: Nord (Paris)
38: Saint Lazare (Paris)
36: Est (Paris)
36: Montparnasse (Paris)
29: Austerlitz (Paris)
26: Lyon (Paris)
18: Saint Charles (Marseilles)
16: Flandres (Lille)
Updated
Largest Stations:
30 platforms or more (12)
52: Grand Central (New York)
48: Nord (Paris)
39: Munich Hauptbahnhof
38: Saint Lazare (Paris)
36: Est (Paris)
36: Montparnasse (Paris)
36: Waterloo (London)
33: Shinjuku (Tokyo)
33: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof
30: Tokyo Station (Tokyo)
30: Union Station (Chicago)
25-29 Platforms(11 Stations)
29: Austerlitz (Paris)
29: Penn Station (New York)
29: Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya (Moscow)
29: Porta Romana (Milan)
27: Karlsruhe Hauptbahnhof
26: Lyon (Paris)
26: Leipzig Hauptbahnhof
26: Ikebukuro (Tokyo)
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
25: Sydney Central
25: Ueno (Tokyo)
20-25 Platforms (14 Stations):
24: Stazione Centrale (Milan)
24: Euston (London)
24: Kings Cross/ St Pancras (London)
24: Tennoji (Osaka)
24: Kyoto
23: Howrah (Calcutta)
23: Victoria (London)
22: Madrid Chamartín (Spain)
22: Liverpool Street (London)
22: Omiya (Saitama)
22: Bruxelles-Midi
21: Shinagawa (Tokyo)
20: Porta Garibaldi (Milan)
20: Paddington (London)
15-19 Platforms (24 Stations)
19: London Bridge (London)
19: Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof
19: Helsinki Central
19: Oslo Central
18: Retiro (Buenos Aires)
18: Basel SBB & Basel SNCF
18: Saint Charles (Marseilles)
17: Yokohama
17: Shin-Osaka (Osaka)
17: Kazanskiy (Moscow)
17: Leeds City (UK)
16: Charing Cross/Embankment (UK)
16: Constitución (Buenos Aires)
16: Atlantic Terminal (New York)
16: Glasgow Central
16: Bern Central
16: Sendai
16: Sealdah (Calcutta)
16: Flandres (Lille)
16: Hamburg Hauptbahnhof
16: Dresden Hauptbahnhof
15: Kurskiy (Moscow)
15: Southern Cross Station (Melbourne)
15: Rotterdam Centraal
10-14 Platforms (39 Stations)
14: Barcelona França (Spain)
14: Madrid Puerta de Atocha (Spain)
14: Utrecht Centraal
14: Piccadilly station (Manchester)
14: Shibuya (Tokyo)
14: Shimbashi (Tokyo)
14: Kita-senju (Tokyo)
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
14: Luzern (terminal)
14: Berlin Lehrter Hauptbahnhof
14: Barcelona Sants (Spain)
14 : 30th Street Station (Philadelphia, PA)
13: Greco-Bicocca (Milan)
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
13: Amsterdam Centraal
12: Kievskiy (Moscow)
12: Den Haag Centraal
12: New Street (Birmingham UK)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Kanayama (Nagoya)
12: Ofuna (Yokohama)
12: Altona (Hamburg)
12: Sants (Barcelona)
12: Bruxelles-Nord
12: Reading (UK)
11: Porta Genova (Milan)
11: Paveletskiy (Moscow)
11: Belarusskiy (Moscow)
11: Berlin Ostbahnhof (East-Station)
11: Nürnberg Hauptbahnhof
10: Cadorna F.N.M. (Milan)
10: Berlin Nordkreuz/Gesundbrunnen
10: Olten (Switerland)
10: Iidabashi (Tokyo)
10: Moorgate (London)
10: Roma St (Brisbane)
10: Köln Hauptbahnhof
10: Once (Buenos Aires)
City Totals for Main Terminii
213: Paris (France)
194: London (UK)
190: Tokyo (Japan)
97: New York (USA)
97: Milan (Italy)
95: Moscow (Russia)
74: Osaka (Japan)
44: Buenos Aires (Argentina)
43: Berlin (Germany)
43: Nagoya (Japan)
39: Calcutta (Kolkutta) (India)
39: Munich (Germany)
36: Madrid (Spain)
32: Frankfurt (Germany)
30: Chicago (USA)
29: Yokohama (Japan)
28: Barcelona (Spain)
28: Hamburg (Germany)
28: Melbourne (Australia)
26: Brussels (Belgium)
27: Karlsruhe (Germany)
26: Leipzig (Germany)
26: Zürich (Switzerland)
25: Sydney (Australia)
19: Helsinki (Finland)
19: Stuttgart (Germany)
19: Oslo (Norway)
18: Basel (Switzerland)
18: Marseilles (France)
17: Leeds (UK)
16: Glasgow (UK)
16: Bern (Switzerland)
16: Lille (France)
16: Dresden (Germany)
15: Rotterdam (Netherlands)
14: Manchester (UK)
14: Luzern (Switzerland)
14: Utrecht (Netherlands)
14: Chiba (Japan)
14: Odawara (Japan)
13: Amsterdam (Netherlands)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Birmingham (UK)
12: Den Haag (The Hague) (Netherlands)
12: Nagoya (Japan)
12: Yokohama (Japan)
12: Reading (UK)
11: Nürnberg (Nurenberg)
10: Brisbane (Australia)
10: Olten (Switzerland)
10: Köln (Cologne) (Germany)
Minato ku May 31st, 2006, 12:35 PM [QUOTE=m@rco](be careful, what minato ku said, all was not correct).
For Saint Lazare I don't count the http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-A_17.gif and the metro lines http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M07_17.gif, http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M08_17.gif.
It is not my fault
It is my calculator fault. :runaway:
m@rco May 31st, 2006, 12:35 PM Gare du Nord:
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/station/Paris_Nord/sncf28-31-12_174.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/station/Paris_Nord/sncf28-31-12_134.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/station/Paris_Nord/sncf28-31-12_130.jpg
The "commuter part" of Gare du Nord:
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/station/Paris_Nord/RT2004-06-16_11-28-53.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/station/Paris_Nord/c-rth2002-10-20_14-26-34.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/station/Paris_Nord/c-rth2002-10-22_09-57-09.jpg
The "RER part" of Gare du Nord (http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-B_17.gif, http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-D_17.gif, Magenta on http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-E_17.gif):
http://metro.free.fr/big/289.jpg
http://metro.free.fr/big/296.jpg
http://www.navily.net/images/magenta_rer_e.jpg
The "subway part" of Gare du Nord (http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M04_17.gif, http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M05_17.gif):
http://www.metro-paris.net/medium/04garedunord02.jpg
http://www.metro-paris.net/medium/05garedunord01.jpg
Gare de L'Est:
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/station/Paris_Est/RT2004-06-09_10-53-16.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/station/Paris_Est/RT2004-06-09_11-01-42.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/station/Paris_Est/RT2004-06-13_19-44-25.jpg
The "subway part" of Gare de l'Est (http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M04_17.gif, http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M05_17.gif, http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M07_17.gif):
http://www.metro-paris.net/medium/04garedelest01.jpg
http://www.metro-paris.net/medium/05garelest01.jpg
http://www.metro-paris.net/medium/07est03.jpg
Gare Montparnasse:
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/station/Paris_Montparnasse/RT2005-06-19_13-24-16.jpg
Montparnasse 2 Pasteur:
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/station/Paris_Montparnasse/c-rth2002-10-23_12-39-37.jpg
The "subway part" of Gare Montparnasse: (http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M06_17.gif):
http://www.metro-paris.net/medium/06montparnasse02.jpg
Gare de Lyon
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/station/Paris_Lyon/Paris-gdLyon1.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/station/Paris_Lyon/sncf28-31-12_086.jpg
The "RER part" of Gare de Lyon (http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-A_17.gif, http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-D_17.gif):
http://metro.free.fr/big/150.jpg
The "subway part" of Gare de Lyon (http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M01_17.gif, http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M14_17.gif):
http://metro.free.fr/big/18.jpg
http://www.memoire-vive.org/moblog/images/200501300058/PICT6440.jpg
The "subway part" of Gare d'Austerlitz (http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M05_17.gif):
http://www.metro-paris.net/medium/05austerlitz04.jpg
Mosaic May 31st, 2006, 12:37 PM Wow!!!!! This is so massive terminal.
Minato ku May 31st, 2006, 12:56 PM Other pics For Montparnasse Station
http://ladefense.free.fr/boris/Gare_Montparnasse2.jpg
http://www.johnnyjet.com/images/PicForNewsletterIrelandSept2005ParisMontraparnseStation.JPG
http://darkmag.net/darkBlog/images/quartier/DSCN0096.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/ovidiuvh_2005/TGVs-Gare-Montparnasse.jpg
Subway station.
http://bxl1.free.fr/genval/paris-5.jpg
http://bxl1.free.fr/genval/paris-6.jpg
Irish Blood English Heart May 31st, 2006, 01:06 PM According to these posts: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=8237266&postcount=123, http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=8237901&postcount=125, http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=8238148&postcount=127, http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=8238251&postcount=128 and if we count mertro stations (I don't understand why, but if it is the rule...), concerning France, the list is not up to date (be careful, what minato ku said, all was not correct).
For Saint Lazare I don't count the http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-A_17.gif and the metro lines http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M07_17.gif, http://www.metro-pole.net/x/M_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/M08_17.gif.
So,
48: Nord (Paris)
38: Saint Lazare (Paris)
36: Est (Paris)
36: Montparnasse (Paris)
29: Austerlitz (Paris)
26: Lyon (Paris)
18: Saint Charles (Marseilles)
16: Flandres (Lille)
Updated
Largest Stations:
30 platforms or more (12)
52: Grand Central (New York)
48: Nord (Paris)
39: Munich Hauptbahnhof
38: Saint Lazare (Paris)
36: Est (Paris)
36: Montparnasse (Paris)
36: Waterloo (London)
33: Shinjuku (Tokyo)
33: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof
30: Tokyo Station (Tokyo)
30: Union Station (Chicago)
25-29 Platforms(11 Stations)
29: Austerlitz (Paris)
29: Penn Station (New York)
29: Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya (Moscow)
29: Porta Romana (Milan)
27: Karlsruhe Hauptbahnhof
26: Lyon (Paris)
26: Leipzig Hauptbahnhof
26: Ikebukuro (Tokyo)
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
25: Sydney Central
25: Ueno (Tokyo)
20-25 Platforms (14 Stations):
24: Stazione Centrale (Milan)
24: Euston (London)
24: Kings Cross/ St Pancras (London)
24: Tennoji (Osaka)
24: Kyoto
23: Howrah (Calcutta)
23: Victoria (London)
22: Madrid Chamartín (Spain)
22: Liverpool Street (London)
22: Omiya (Saitama)
22: Bruxelles-Midi
21: Shinagawa (Tokyo)
20: Porta Garibaldi (Milan)
20: Paddington (London)
15-19 Platforms (24 Stations)
19: London Bridge (London)
19: Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof
19: Helsinki Central
19: Oslo Central
18: Retiro (Buenos Aires)
18: Basel SBB & Basel SNCF
18: Saint Charles (Marseilles)
17: Yokohama
17: Shin-Osaka (Osaka)
17: Kazanskiy (Moscow)
17: Leeds City (UK)
16: Charing Cross/Embankment (UK)
16: Constitución (Buenos Aires)
16: Atlantic Terminal (New York)
16: Glasgow Central
16: Bern Central
16: Sendai
16: Sealdah (Calcutta)
16: Flandres (Lille)
16: Hamburg Hauptbahnhof
16: Dresden Hauptbahnhof
15: Kurskiy (Moscow)
15: Southern Cross Station (Melbourne)
15: Rotterdam Centraal
10-14 Platforms (39 Stations)
14: Barcelona França (Spain)
14: Madrid Puerta de Atocha (Spain)
14: Utrecht Centraal
14: Piccadilly station (Manchester)
14: Shibuya (Tokyo)
14: Shimbashi (Tokyo)
14: Kita-senju (Tokyo)
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
14: Luzern (terminal)
14: Berlin Lehrter Hauptbahnhof
14: Barcelona Sants (Spain)
14 : 30th Street Station (Philadelphia, PA)
13: Greco-Bicocca (Milan)
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
13: Amsterdam Centraal
12: Kievskiy (Moscow)
12: Den Haag Centraal
12: New Street (Birmingham UK)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Kanayama (Nagoya)
12: Ofuna (Yokohama)
12: Altona (Hamburg)
12: Sants (Barcelona)
12: Bruxelles-Nord
12: Reading (UK)
11: Porta Genova (Milan)
11: Paveletskiy (Moscow)
11: Belarusskiy (Moscow)
11: Berlin Ostbahnhof (East-Station)
11: Nürnberg Hauptbahnhof
10: Cadorna F.N.M. (Milan)
10: Berlin Nordkreuz/Gesundbrunnen
10: Olten (Switerland)
10: Iidabashi (Tokyo)
10: Moorgate (London)
10: Roma St (Brisbane)
10: Köln Hauptbahnhof
10: Once (Buenos Aires)
City Totals for Main Terminii
213: Paris (France)
194: London (UK)
190: Tokyo (Japan)
97: New York (USA)
97: Milan (Italy)
95: Moscow (Russia)
74: Osaka (Japan)
44: Buenos Aires (Argentina)
43: Berlin (Germany)
43: Nagoya (Japan)
39: Calcutta (Kolkutta) (India)
39: Munich (Germany)
36: Madrid (Spain)
32: Frankfurt (Germany)
30: Chicago (USA)
29: Yokohama (Japan)
28: Barcelona (Spain)
28: Hamburg (Germany)
28: Melbourne (Australia)
26: Brussels (Belgium)
27: Karlsruhe (Germany)
26: Leipzig (Germany)
26: Zürich (Switzerland)
25: Sydney (Australia)
19: Helsinki (Finland)
19: Stuttgart (Germany)
19: Oslo (Norway)
18: Basel (Switzerland)
18: Marseilles (France)
17: Leeds (UK)
16: Glasgow (UK)
16: Bern (Switzerland)
16: Lille (France)
16: Dresden (Germany)
15: Rotterdam (Netherlands)
14: Manchester (UK)
14: Luzern (Switzerland)
14: Utrecht (Netherlands)
14: Chiba (Japan)
14: Odawara (Japan)
13: Amsterdam (Netherlands)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Birmingham (UK)
12: Den Haag (The Hague) (Netherlands)
12: Nagoya (Japan)
12: Yokohama (Japan)
12: Reading (UK)
11: Nürnberg (Nurenberg)
10: Brisbane (Australia)
10: Olten (Switzerland)
10: Köln (Cologne) (Germany)
Manchester has 2 main terminus, Piccadilly has 14 platforms and Victoria has 6. Also each station has a further 2 metrolink platforms.
m@rco May 31st, 2006, 02:10 PM Gare de Lille-Flandres:
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/station/Lille/RT2005-06-14_16-11-27.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/station/Lille/18296025.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/station/Lille/lilleflandres.jpg
The "new" building
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/station/Lille/LF_aux.jpg
Gare de Marseille-Saint Charles:
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/station/Marseille/18296181.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/station/Marseille/marseille_gare.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/station/Marseille/Marseilles_station_in_the_morning.jpg
Justme May 31st, 2006, 06:00 PM Great updates from Paris!
Justme May 31st, 2006, 06:02 PM @Irish Blood English Heart, Is the Manchester Metrolink proper platforms for a metro, or Tram Platforms? So far no trams or Light Rail has been included (unless the Light Rail is of metro standard)
Nemo May 31st, 2006, 06:19 PM AMSTERDAM CENTRAAL STATION
ORIGINALLY POSTED BY. @Winbuks
http://static.mediamatic.nl/f/wzdr/image/1243-770-525.jpg
Bron: Zwart & Jansma Architecten (http://www.zwarts.jansma.nl)
SE9 May 31st, 2006, 11:12 PM Hey Justme, I have two more stations to add for London :
Clapham Junction
*Platforms: 16 Overground, none underground.
* Annual entry/exit figures (not including interchange): 17.122 million
*Operators:
- Silverlink (Terminus)
- South West Trains
- Southern Trains
http://static.flickr.com/22/25310900_2f9447ea0e.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/12/18329639_3b0877353f.jpg
Stratford Station
*Platforms: 15 Overall.
* Annual entry/exit figures (not including interchange): 17.122 million
*Operators:
- Jubilee Line (terminus)
- Docklands Light Railway (terminus)
- c2c
- one
- Siverlink
- Central Line
http://static.flickr.com/37/94183296_a150f72ba6.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/27/58672761_a892b5c8e3.jpg
SE9 May 31st, 2006, 11:31 PM Updated
Largest Stations:
30 platforms or more (12)
52: Grand Central (New York)
48: Nord (Paris)
39: Munich Hauptbahnhof
38: Saint Lazare (Paris)
36: Est (Paris)
36: Montparnasse (Paris)
36: Waterloo (London)
33: Shinjuku (Tokyo)
33: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof
30: Tokyo Station (Tokyo)
30: Union Station (Chicago
25-29 Platforms(11 Stations)
29: Austerlitz (Paris)
29: Penn Station (New York)
29: Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya (Moscow)
29: Porta Romana (Milan)
27: Karlsruhe Hauptbahnhof
26: Kings Cross/St.Pancras
26: Lyon (Paris)
26: Leipzig Hauptbahnhof
26: Ikebukuro (Tokyo)
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
25: Sydney Central
25: Ueno (Tokyo)
20-25 Platforms (14 Stations):
24: Stazione Centrale (Milan)
24: Euston (London)
24: Tennoji (Osaka)
24: Kyoto
23: Howrah (Calcutta)
23: Victoria (London)
22: Madrid Chamartín (Spain)
22: Liverpool Street (London)
22: Omiya (Saitama)
22: Bruxelles-Midi
21: Shinagawa (Tokyo)
20: Porta Garibaldi (Milan)
20: Paddington (London)
15-19 Platforms (25 Stations)
19: London Bridge (London)
19: Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof
19: Helsinki Central
19: Oslo Central
18: Retiro (Buenos Aires)
18: Basel SBB & Basel SNCF
18: Saint Charles (Marseilles)
17: Yokohama
17: Shin-Osaka (Osaka)
17: Kazanskiy (Moscow)
17: Leeds City (UK)
16: Charing Cross/Embankment (UK)
16: Constitución (Buenos Aires)
16: Atlantic Terminal (New York)
16: Glasgow Central
16: Bern Central
16: Sendai
16: Sealdah (Calcutta)
16: Flandres (Lille)
16: Hamburg Hauptbahnhof
16: Dresden Hauptbahnhof
15: Stratford (London)
15: Kurskiy (Moscow)
15: Southern Cross Station (Melbourne)
15: Rotterdam Centraal
10-14 Platforms (39 Stations)
14: Barcelona França (Spain)
14: Madrid Puerta de Atocha (Spain)
14: Utrecht Centraal
14: Piccadilly station (Manchester)
14: Shibuya (Tokyo)
14: Shimbashi (Tokyo)
14: Kita-senju (Tokyo)
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
14: Luzern (terminal)
14: Berlin Lehrter Hauptbahnhof
14: Barcelona Sants (Spain)
14 : 30th Street Station (Philadelphia, PA)
13: Greco-Bicocca (Milan)
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
13: Amsterdam Centraal
12: Kievskiy (Moscow)
12: Den Haag Centraal
12: New Street (Birmingham UK)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Kanayama (Nagoya)
12: Ofuna (Yokohama)
12: Altona (Hamburg)
12: Sants (Barcelona)
12: Bruxelles-Nord
12: Reading (UK)
11: Porta Genova (Milan)
11: Paveletskiy (Moscow)
11: Belarusskiy (Moscow)
11: Berlin Ostbahnhof (East-Station)
11: Nürnberg Hauptbahnhof
10: Cadorna F.N.M. (Milan)
10: Berlin Nordkreuz/Gesundbrunnen
10: Olten (Switerland)
10: Iidabashi (Tokyo)
10: Moorgate (London)
10: Roma St (Brisbane)
10: Köln Hauptbahnhof
10: Once (Buenos Aires)
City Totals for Main Terminii
213: Paris (France)
202: London (UK)
190: Tokyo (Japan)
97: New York (USA)
97: Milan (Italy)
95: Moscow (Russia)
74: Osaka (Japan)
44: Buenos Aires (Argentina)
43: Berlin (Germany)
43: Nagoya (Japan)
39: Calcutta (Kolkutta) (India)
39: Munich (Germany)
36: Madrid (Spain)
32: Frankfurt (Germany)
30: Chicago (USA)
29: Yokohama (Japan)
28: Barcelona (Spain)
28: Hamburg (Germany)
28: Melbourne (Australia)
26: Brussels (Belgium)
27: Karlsruhe (Germany)
26: Leipzig (Germany)
26: Zürich (Switzerland)
25: Sydney (Australia)
19: Helsinki (Finland)
19: Stuttgart (Germany)
19: Oslo (Norway)
18: Basel (Switzerland)
18: Marseilles (France)
17: Leeds (UK)
16: Glasgow (UK)
16: Bern (Switzerland)
16: Lille (France)
16: Dresden (Germany)
15: Rotterdam (Netherlands)
14: Manchester (UK)
14: Luzern (Switzerland)
14: Utrecht (Netherlands)
14: Chiba (Japan)
14: Odawara (Japan)
13: Amsterdam (Netherlands)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Birmingham (UK)
12: Den Haag (The Hague) (Netherlands)
12: Nagoya (Japan)
12: Yokohama (Japan)
12: Reading (UK)
11: Nürnberg (Nurenberg)
10: Brisbane (Australia)
10: Olten (Switzerland)
10: Köln (Cologne) (Germany)
SE9 May 31st, 2006, 11:36 PM Cannon Street comes up just short with 9 platforms.
*Terminus for Southern and South Eastern Services.
*Circle and District tube lines.
m@rco June 1st, 2006, 11:02 AM Largest Stations:
30 platforms or more (10)
52: Grand Central (New York)
42: Nord (Paris)
39: Munich Hauptbahnhof
36: Waterloo (London)
33: Shinjuku (Tokyo)
33: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof
32: Saint Lazare (Paris)
30: Est (Paris)
30: Tokyo Station (Tokyo)
30: Union Station (Chicago)
...
SE9, when you update the list, it should be nice to use the latest version (see previous page).
Largest Stations:
30 platforms or more (12)
52: Grand Central (New York)
48: Nord (Paris)
39: Munich Hauptbahnhof
38: Saint Lazare (Paris)
36: Est (Paris)
36: Montparnasse (Paris)
36: Waterloo (London)
33: Shinjuku (Tokyo)
33: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof
30: Tokyo Station (Tokyo)
30: Union Station (Chicago)
...
Thank you.
SE9 June 1st, 2006, 03:10 PM ^ I got the versions mixed up man. I got it updated not.
SE9 June 1st, 2006, 04:00 PM Kings Cross/St Pancras
http://static.flickr.com/6/11044315_2cacc09f94.jpghttp://static.flickr.com/38/87410254_1b117fb346.jpg
- Platforms: 16 Overground / 8 Underground
-Lines:
*First Capital Connect
*GNER
*Hull Trains
*Grand Central Trains
*Midland Mainline
*Circle Line
*Hammersmith & City Line
*Metropolitan Line
*Northern Line
*Victoria Line
*Picadilly Line
- Annual Passenger entry and exit only (not including interchanging passengers): 53.5 million Overground/ 77.564 million Underground/131 million Total
I forgot to add the 2 Kings Cross Thameslink branch platforms: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King%27s_Cross_Thameslink
+2 platforms
Kings Cross/St Pancras
http://static.flickr.com/6/11044315_2cacc09f94.jpghttp://static.flickr.com/38/87410254_1b117fb346.jpg
- Platforms: 18 Overground / 8 Underground
-Lines:
*First Capital Connect
*GNER
*Hull Trains
*Grand Central Trains
*Midland Mainline
*Circle Line
*Hammersmith & City Line
*Metropolitan Line
*Northern Line
*Victoria Line
*Picadilly Line
*Thameslink
- Annual Passenger entry and exit only (not including interchanging passengers): 53.5 million Overground/ 77.564 million Underground/131 million Total
Justme June 1st, 2006, 04:01 PM @SE9, Earlier in the thread we discounted stations like Clapton Junction as they were more associated with suburban interchange or through stations rather than central terminus'.
i.e. a central terminus can also be a through station, but large suburban stations havn't been included for any of the cities (as far as I know) so far.
SE9 June 1st, 2006, 04:11 PM ^ Thats cool.. I'll remove Clapham Junction.
Stratford (15) and Wimbledon (10) are large-ish terminus' too, although not central. Should I remove them aswell?
Sorry about the confusion. I just spotted a "suburban" station and assumed that they were being counted.
Yardmaster June 2nd, 2006, 05:08 PM Can anyone tell me where "Stratford" Station London is ? It's off my radar.
Thanks for keeping the threads together, JustMe, and thanks to eveyone who's kept the platform totals updated.
Re Chicago ... (in the other thread)
from what are essentially two seperate terminals, the even-numbered tracks/platforms go northwards, and the odd-numbered tracks go southwards? Unusual (but not heretical).
Re Flinders St. Melbourne:
This station originally comprised two (Flinders st. & Prince's Bridge). After renumerating the platforms, it had 1-16 (14 was "One East"), but two ere lost (in fact the entirety of Prince's Bridge Station) during the construction of Federation Square, and platform 11 is not currently operative, although 10 & 11 east (12 & 13) are still in use. My total stands: Flinders St: 13 (operative) platforms.
Re. Southern Cross Melbourne:
The total I have suggested again appears to stand. Platforms 1-14 operate, 8 south is not just an extension of 8, & 15 &16, although planned, are still just a building site. Platforms 2 -8 have one or more cross-overs along their length, which could arguably be construed as reason for them being counted as multiple platforms (2 north, 2 south, etc.) but I won't go into this .... for obvious reasons! :)
Justme June 2nd, 2006, 08:49 PM Can anyone tell me where "Stratford" Station London is ? It's off my radar.
Stratford station is a major suburban station to London's East, as you can see from the map below; follow the arrow from the top/right
Keep in mind that this map doesn't show the new highspeed Eurostar line which is nearly completed passing through Stratford (and stopping there) before ending in the city. The entire line is underground through London.
Also, despite being a suburban station, it is a terminus for various lines from the Underground, the DLR and a commuter line.
http://www.pbase.com/jchambers/image/61191047/original.jpg
At the moment, there are trains every 20-30seconds, by the time the Olympics reach London, this will have increased to every 13seconds.
Stratford is directly connected to two of London's five international airports, Stansted and London City. When the new Eurostar platforms are completed it will also have direct links to Paris and Brussels.
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3100/dlrdevelopmentmap6rz.jpg
Some photos before the full enlargement:
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/6402/800pxstratfordstationlondonuk4.jpg
http://www.railway-technology.com/projects/chunnel/images/chunnel8.jpg
More details of Stratford International can be found here:
http://www.lcrhq.co.uk/
http://www.simonjonesandassociates.co.uk/transpor/large/transp07.jpg
http://www.simonjonesandassociates.co.uk/transpor/large/transp06.jpg
I don't have pictures of what the new International part of the station will look like unfortunately.
eomer June 2nd, 2006, 10:04 PM http://static.flickr.com/6/11044315_2cacc09f94.jpg
I like this picture of St Pancrass from kings-x: it look like a hunted scotish castle.
Yardmaster June 2nd, 2006, 10:59 PM Thanks.
So Stratford International is ...
An eastern suburbs stop-off for International traffic?
London's Jamaica?
London's Homebush?
Or all of the above?
(and for pure image, nothing will ever go past St. Pancras in London, except Flinders St. in Melbourne and Victoria Station in Mumbai).
brookliner June 3rd, 2006, 02:27 AM Ok here is some info from my hometown of Boston.
South Station - 13 platforms
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/74/SouthStation.agr.JPG/800px-SouthStation.agr.JPG
North Station - 12 platforms (10 active, 2 inactive)
In 1893....
http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/avp/cas/fnart/fa267/19th/norstatn.jpg
Today its completely nondescript. It's built under the Fleet Center (TD Banknorth Garden), which is the basketball and hockey complex.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d4/North_Station.jpg
Chicagoago June 3rd, 2006, 11:02 PM So does anyone know how many platform/tracks the Ogilvy, LaSalle, and Randolph stations have in Chicago? They are all the end of the line for all their trains. I actually work in the office building where the Ogilvy station is located. It's a very interesting and very busy building, but much more an office building with a huge food court in the bottom of it than a full fledged train station. I take the El to work though, so I don't know how many platforms this station has - although I'm thinking 10-13 from my casual glances when I happen to walk by the tracks to get lunch. Any word on these other stations? Combined with Union that could easily push Chicago's citywide total up to around 55 or possibly higher.
torke June 22nd, 2006, 06:51 AM MADRID -"ATOCHA"- STATION:
439.874 people/day in 2005 (ABC 9 de febrero)
The station has a totally of 25 platforms (plus 2 more ones of subway sistem: Atocha Renfe) in 2 different levels, 10 of them in the lower one for local trains ("Atocha Cercanías") and the other 15 in the upper one for high speed and long haul trains ("Puerta de Atocha"). Some pictures of the station from the net:
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/249/madridpuertadeatochastation27m.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6900/madridatocha17eg.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4774/atochastation19ap.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8302/old20atocha20station20madrid9q.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2905/atocha7xj.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9237/madridmoneoatochaextension0fu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5990/hall20atocha20cercanias20jlj4y.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1395/dscn36636fi.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
boricuba June 22nd, 2006, 06:27 PM New york may have the most platforms of any central station in the world!
And grand central station is beutiful!
In my personal opinion as an American! The city of Paris has the most beutifull stations ive ever seen.
Most modern! and Up to date!
Kuala Lampur malaysia
swerveut June 22nd, 2006, 11:20 PM Excellent thread! Just made my day.
auma June 23rd, 2006, 06:21 PM Nagoya Station (32 platforms) isn't listed in the Largest stations list while Nagoya's City total seems to include this station.
So, we have to modify the list as
Largest Stations:
32: Nagoya
City Totals for Main Terminii:
44: Nagoya (Japan) (Nagoya:32 + Kanayama:12)
Minato ku June 23rd, 2006, 06:59 PM Right Nagoya station is big
http://www.japaneselifestyle.com.au/travel/images/nagoya_station.jpg
torke June 24th, 2006, 07:00 PM THE LAST UPDATE BY NOW:
Largest Stations:
30 platforms or more (12)
52: Grand Central (New York)
48: Nord (Paris)
39: Munich Hauptbahnhof
38: Saint Lazare (Paris)
36: Est (Paris)
36: Montparnasse (Paris)
36: Waterloo (London)
33: Shinjuku (Tokyo)
33: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof
30: Tokyo Station (Tokyo)
30: Union Station (Chicago
25-29 Platforms(12 Stations)
29: Austerlitz (Paris)
29: Penn Station (New York)
29: Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya (Moscow)
29: Porta Romana (Milan)
27: Atocha (Madrid)
27: Karlsruhe Hauptbahnhof
26: Kings Cross/St.Pancras
26: Lyon (Paris)
26: Leipzig Hauptbahnhof
26: Ikebukuro (Tokyo)
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
25: Sydney Central
25: Ueno (Tokyo)
20-25 Platforms (14 Stations):
24: Chamartín (Madrid)
24: Stazione Centrale (Milan)
24: Euston (London)
24: Tennoji (Osaka)
24: Kyoto
23: Howrah (Calcutta)
23: Victoria (London)
22: Liverpool Street (London)
22: Omiya (Saitama)
22: Bruxelles-Midi
21: Shinagawa (Tokyo)
20: Porta Garibaldi (Milan)
20: Paddington (London)
15-19 Platforms (25 Stations)
19: London Bridge (London)
19: Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof
19: Helsinki Central
19: Oslo Central
18: Retiro (Buenos Aires)
18: Basel SBB & Basel SNCF
18: Saint Charles (Marseilles)
17: Yokohama
17: Shin-Osaka (Osaka)
17: Kazanskiy (Moscow)
17: Leeds City (UK)
16: Charing Cross/Embankment (UK)
16: Constitución (Buenos Aires)
16: Atlantic Terminal (New York)
16: Glasgow Central
16: Bern Central
16: Sendai
16: Sealdah (Calcutta)
16: Flandres (Lille)
16: Hamburg Hauptbahnhof
16: Dresden Hauptbahnhof
15: Stratford (London)
15: Kurskiy (Moscow)
15: Southern Cross Station (Melbourne)
15: Rotterdam Centraal
10-14 Platforms (39 Stations)
14: Estacio de França (Barcelona, Spain)
14: Utrecht Centraal
14: Piccadilly station (Manchester)
14: Shibuya (Tokyo)
14: Shimbashi (Tokyo)
14: Kita-senju (Tokyo)
14: Chiba
14: Odawara
14: Luzern (terminal)
14: Berlin Lehrter Hauptbahnhof
14: Barcelona Sants (Spain)
14 : 30th Street Station (Philadelphia, PA)
13: Greco-Bicocca (Milan)
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
13: Amsterdam Centraal
12: Santa Justa (Seville, Spain)
12: Kievskiy (Moscow)
12: Den Haag Centraal
12: New Street (Birmingham UK)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Kanayama (Nagoya)
12: Ofuna (Yokohama)
12: Altona (Hamburg)
12: Sants (Barcelona, Spain)
12: Bruxelles-Nord
12: Reading (UK)
11: Porta Genova (Milan)
11: Paveletskiy (Moscow)
11: Belarusskiy (Moscow)
11: Berlin Ostbahnhof (East-Station)
11: Nürnberg Hauptbahnhof
10: Cadorna F.N.M. (Milan)
10: Berlin Nordkreuz/Gesundbrunnen
10: Olten (Switerland)
10: Iidabashi (Tokyo)
10: Moorgate (London)
10: Roma St (Brisbane)
10: Köln Hauptbahnhof
10: Once (Buenos Aires)
10: Principe Pío (Madrid)
City Totals for Main Terminii
213: Paris (France)
202: London (UK)
190: Tokyo (Japan)
97: New York (USA)
97: Milan (Italy)
95: Moscow (Russia)
74: Osaka (Japan)
61: Madrid (Spain)
44: Buenos Aires (Argentina)
43: Berlin (Germany)
43: Nagoya (Japan)
39: Calcutta (Kolkutta) (India)
39: Munich (Germany)
32: Frankfurt (Germany)
30: Chicago (USA)
29: Yokohama (Japan)
28: Barcelona (Spain)
28: Hamburg (Germany)
28: Melbourne (Australia)
26: Brussels (Belgium)
27: Karlsruhe (Germany)
26: Leipzig (Germany)
26: Zürich (Switzerland)
25: Sydney (Australia)
19: Helsinki (Finland)
19: Stuttgart (Germany)
19: Oslo (Norway)
18: Basel (Switzerland)
18: Marseilles (France)
17: Leeds (UK)
16: Glasgow (UK)
16: Bern (Switzerland)
16: Lille (France)
16: Dresden (Germany)
15: Rotterdam (Netherlands)
14: Manchester (UK)
14: Luzern (Switzerland)
14: Utrecht (Netherlands)
14: Chiba (Japan)
14: Odawara (Japan)
13: Amsterdam (Netherlands)
12: Seville (Spain)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Birmingham (UK)
12: Den Haag (The Hague) (Netherlands)
12: Nagoya (Japan)
12: Yokohama (Japan)
12: Reading (UK)
11: Nürnberg (Nurenberg)
10: Brisbane (Australia)
10: Olten (Switzerland)
10: Köln (Cologne) (Germany)
Bitxofo June 24th, 2006, 11:20 PM @TORKE and the rest:
Nowadays, Madrid Puerta de Atocha has got 15 tracks and Madrid Chamartin has got 22 tracks. So Madrid = 15+22 = 37 tracks.
;)
Update the list, please!
:wink2:
torke June 26th, 2006, 12:19 AM Now a days, Madrid Atocha has got 25 (15+10) tracks plus 2 of the subway!! Try to count them in google earth if u aren't able to go there!! Anyway u should read first what is written in the thread before because there is a post about Atocha Station in the page 12. It was decided too to incluid subway platforms of main stations, in fack they are already counted in Paris and other cities: JUST READ THE THREAD please!!
Atocha ahora:
15 vías Puerta de Atocha
10 vías Atocha Cercanías
2 vías Metro L1
Total 27 vías.
Atocha futuro:
15+4 vías subterraneas Puerta de Atocha
12 vías Atocha Cercanías
4 vías Metro L1 y L11
Total 35 vías.
Chamartín ahora
21 vías con andén
4 o 5 autoexpreso (creo que desparecerán)
2 vías Metro L10
Total 28 vías (no exacto)
Chamartín futuro
21 vías con anden
8 vías Metro L1, L10, L11 y Metronorte
Total 29 vías (no se si está previsto ańadir más)
Principe Pío
4 vías con andén
3 vías de estacionamiento
6 vías de metro L6, L10 y ramal.
Total 10 vías o 13 con las de estacionamiento.
cjav June 26th, 2006, 03:04 PM Utrecht Centraal is the netherlands biggest station atleast 19 tracks but i think its were like 22 or something
edit: rotterdam centraal also has two subway platforms and will after contruction is done ( currently busy ) will also have plastforms for the new randstadrail
Thorin July 2nd, 2006, 04:35 PM Rome Termini has 29 platforms, and 4 platform more with the two lines of the metro.
http://www.galinsky.com/buildings/termini/terminiwaveint.jpg
http://www.hotelmontecarlo.it/hotel-roma-centro/foto-roma/Stazione-Termini.jpg
http://toon.heindl-internet.de/rom/b2/4A230142-rom-stazione-termini.jpg
http://oasis.halfmoon.jp/extphoto/ita2_photo/pc271265.jpg
http://www.romaviva.com/Stazione-Termini/stazione-termini.jpg
zazo July 2nd, 2006, 08:08 PM MADRID
Inside the Atocha train station there is a huge botanic garden with tropical trees (from 92' universal exposition)
http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/631/atocha2cc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The building is the tipical industrial station of 19 century
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8664/atocha17oe.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Chamartin station entrance
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7500/ccc2ty.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
A green in on the station
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1700/chamartinestacion18cb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
yako July 3rd, 2006, 07:18 PM Stockholm Central Station has 19 platforms, plus an additional 6 metro-platforms.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Stockholm_central_station.jpg
Entrance facade
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Arlanda_Express%2C_Stockholm.jpg
Airport Express train
http://ijaabo.rulez.cz/photos/stockholm03/pics/04.jpg
Tracks (You can see my house in this picture!)
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