2007 Mercedes-Benz S-Class
Luxury, speed, safety . . . and night vision

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h137/jamesarkoss/carsMB2007_485.jpg

It sees at night, prevents accidents, and leaves most sports cars in the dust: The ninth-generation Mercedes-Benz S-Class is more than a simple luxury upgrade. Its Brake Assist Plus system uses long- and short-range radar to anticipate and avoid collisions—or, at the very least, lessen the severity of a crash—by automatically braking with full force if you don't stomp on the brake hard enough to stop in time. More impressive is the Night View Assist, which shines infrared beams down the road to illuminate hazards that are beyond the reach of the headlights. A special camera on the rearview mirror reads the infrared and shows you a crisp, clear image of what's coming on an eight-inch LCD screen in the instrument panel. A 5.5-liter V8 under the hood of the S550 produces 382 horsepower and 391 pound-feet of torque, enough to push this sedan to 62 mph in a scant 5.4 seconds. The premium luxury sedan has a new standard, and it is very high. $75,000–$130,000 (estimated)

2006 Pontiac Solstice
Rebirth of the american roadster

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h137/jamesarkoss/carsPontiac_485.jpg

Pontiac's two-seat Solstice is proof that American manufacturers really can produce fun, affordable sports cars. It owes its smooth curves and robust steel-tube chassis to hydroforming, an innovative process that uses water pressure to inexpensively and precisely fabricate structural components and complex body panels with exceptional strength. Its spry 177hp engine pushes the Solstice to a top speed of 123 mph and a 0–60 time of 7.2 seconds, while its near-50/50 weight distribution and four-wheel control-arm independent suspension provide excellent road handling. $20,000

2006 Audi A3

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h137/jamesarkoss/carsAudiA306_485.jpg

Sport hatch, with emphasis on "sport"
The Audi A3 is the first premium hatchback to get it right, meshing utility, performance and smart styling. Perfect for carting a small family, the nimble 2.0-liter turbocharged model with a six-speed manual has plenty of power, but opt for the six-speed Direct-Shift Gearbox (DSG), and the A3 is a veritable sports car. DSG is a semi-automatic transmission with the guts of a manual, using a pair of alternating clutches to produce lightning-quick shifts (two tenths of a second) with no interruption in torque flow. It helps shoot this pocket Audi to 60 mph in 6.7 seconds. $24,700–$26,220

2006 Land Rover Range Rover Sport
Master of blacktop and muddy ruts

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h137/jamesarkoss/carsLandRover06_485.jpg

The 300hp Sport is the first Land Rover that takes the pavement as seriously as it does the dirt. Smaller than its flagship namesake, the Sport's on-road aptitude comes from the new Dynamic Response suspension system, which monitors cornering loads and employs hydraulic motors that stiffen or relax the anti-roll bars to enhance stability and mitigate body roll. The result: a 5,700-pound, 130mph SUV that handles Highway 1 as well as it does the Rubicon Trail. $56,750–$69,750

MORE TO COME

^^^
Love to own one of em! :)

The A3 is so nice... it's actually being sold in the US.

lol, that mercedes s-class is curently available since last year, so why do you call it 2007?
http://www.auto-show21.com/motershow/frankfurt_m2005/benz_s600.html

renault clio RS
2.0 16v 200 bhp

http://www.motofakty.pl/g2/art/0/8/440c36b6166b0_d.jpeg

Yes french car !!!

Peugeot 207

http://autoblog.it/uploads/peugeot_207_uff_03.jpg

Renault Megane

http://www.askaprice.com/images/news/inhouse/827-03.jpg

Renault Laguna 2007

http://www.caradisiac.com/media/images/le_mag/mag232/renault-laguna-3-1.jpg
http://www.autoblog.it/uploads/renault_laguna_3a_serie.jpg

2007 Toyota Camry (Best Selling Car in the U.S.)
http://www.auto123.com/ArtImages/54991/alt.jpg

I preffer French cars

I've once driven clio 2 RS -2.0 16V 182 bhp and I fell In love in that car, I'm gonna have one of these one day for sure :)

2007 Toyota Camry (Best Selling Car in the U.S.)
http://www.auto123.com/ArtImages/54991/alt.jpg

I love that car

2006 Ford Explorer:
http://www.bigtex.com/img/2005/auto/auto_ford_explorer.jpg

2006 Ford Mustang:
http://www.mustangheaven.com/stangspecs/2006mustang/06mustangv6.jpg

2006 Ford GT:
http://www.autoextremist.com/cars/new%20york%20show%202005/ford%20gt.jpg

2006 Chrysler Crossfire:
http://www.calcruisingauctions.com/images3/2006chryslercrossfirelg.jpg

2006 Chrysler 300:
http://www.seattleautoshow.com/2006/chrysler_300_b.jpg

2007 Chrysler Aspen:
http://www.cars.com/features/autoshows/2006/detroit/coverage/images/07_Chrysler_Aspen_frontangle_cs_430.jpg

2006 Chevrolet Corevette:
http://www.motorcities.com/media/image/640/05A50580023116D/2006-Chevrolet-Corvette-Z06-Revealed-at-NAIAS-D-640.jpeg

Bah, thats enough to give you an idea of American cars.

300C/Crossfire and mustang are awesome, well all are awesome but somehow I like these models best.

300C hemi is the best car of this size for this money -relatively cheap, as you won't get a BMW audi or mercedes like that for such money

and if mustang was available in Poland for the money it costs in the USA -we would have many of them, once again an amusing car for reasonable money

That 2007 S Class sounds like a mint car. Night vision thats a new one. I've been in a brand new range rover sport and its got so many little things that make it easier to drive its silly. Instead of a hand break its just got a button, and when you reverse the mirrors line up at right angle to you get the best possible view. Then its fully automatic which makes it even easier to drive. In 10 years time I wonder what they will have come up with.

however the price of a new S-klasse is much bigger than the previous model...when it will stop?

Fortunately there is a bit cheaper new model which, to my mind, looks at least equally mint...the new CLS
http://www.mercedes-benz.pl/mb/gfx_content/vis_osob_coup_cls.jpg
http://www.mercedes-benz.pl/mb/gfx_gallery/gal_osob_coup_07_big.jpg

It looks like Japan, Germany and Italy make the best cars in the world. Ironically those were the countries that lost WWII but they have the best in ground transportation technology.

The Axis powers are defeating us now. We're car-dependent and they're not.

Why can't we get the Renaults anymore in this country?

I wonder whether importing French cars to the US would be a good idea -I think it would :)
Renault, Peugeot and Citroen have very interesting cars

Renault imported car in USA and Canada in 80's

renault official site (english) (http://www.renault.com/renault_com/en/main/)

I love this car

Renault Megane Estate (french name)
http://www.renault.com/renault_com/en/images/vue-cote_tcm1120-310960.jpg
http://www.carpages.co.uk/renault/renault_images/renault_megane_interior_29_12_05.jpg

Renault Clio in Japan is called Lutecia.

It looks like Japan, Germany and Italy make the best cars in the world. Ironically those were the countries that lost WWII but they have the best in ground transportation technology.


Italia cars without Fiat

2006 DODGE HORNET CONCEPT

http://paultan.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/dodge_hornet_1.jpg

http://paultan.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/dodge_hornet_2.jpg

http://paultan.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/dodge_hornet_11.jpg

http://paultan.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/dodge_hornet_3.jpg

It looks like Japan, Germany and Italy make the best cars in the world. Ironically those were the countries that lost WWII but they have the best in ground transportation technology.

The US can make the best car in the world if it wants to. The US has a lot of other better things to think about like maintaining to be the most powerful country in the world. The best minds in the US are not working for the car companies, they are working for the defense & space technology companies.

The Axis powers are defeating us now. We're car-dependent and they're not.

They're not. I'll bet you if the US President orders the country to build the best car in the world in a matter of a few months it can easily do so. It's just not the country's interest right now.

Minato KU yes, I remember them even in a few American movies. There were American versions of r21 and some other old ones.

I think they should try 'attack' the US again. Especially renault, since they own Nissan and Infinity so they could use their dealerships for a start

most renaults are perhaps too small for the American market but...
Models such as laguna (lagoon) 3.0 V6 or 2.0 turbo
http://www.renault.com.pl/pics/RenaultSITe/central/referential/vehicles/laguna_ph2_b74/wallpapers/vn_la_wp_800_15.jpg

http://www.renault.com.pl/pics/RenaultSITe/central/referential/vehicles/laguna_ph2_b74/wallpapers/vn_la_wp_800_04.jpg

vel satis 3.5 V6
http://www.renault.com.pl/pics/RenaultSITe/central/referential/vehicles/vel_satis_ph2/image_car/003_wp_800x600.jpg
http://www.renault.com.pl/pics/RenaultSITe/central/referential/vehicles/vel_satis_ph2/image_car/007_wp_800x600.jpg

or a van -espace 3.0 V6
http://www.renault.com.pl/pics/RenaultSITe/central/referential/vehicles/espace_iv_ph2/carimage_showroom/wallpaper_02_espace_vn_800.jpg

and megane coupe-cabrio with a hard top
http://www.renault.com.pl/pics/RenaultSITe/central/referential/vehicles/megane_e84_ph2/image_car/vn_me_wp_800_001.jpg

and megane RS 2.0 225 bhp -something for streetracers
http://www.renault.com.pl/pics/RenaultSITe/central/referential/vehicles/megane_c84_ph2/image_car/vn_mc_wp_800_001.jpg

What od our American forumers think, would cars like that be succesful in the US?
In EU renault is in the very top

Here are some all new cars that are out or coming out here in the states.

Audi S8 (I want this car badly)
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2006/0511_audi_s8_01_900.jpg

Buick Lucerne
http://www.motorawards.com/ve/showcase/fotos/2006/buick/lucerne/10601-t1.jpg

Cadillac Escalade
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2006/0512_cadillac_escalade_900.jpg

2009 Chrysler Imperial concept
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2006/0602_chrysler_imperial_concept_03_900.jpg

Dodge Calibur
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2006/0602_dodge_caliber_02_900.jpg

Ford Fusion
http://www.speedtv.com/_assets/library/img/large/89287_06fusion.ext1.jpg

Honda Fit
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2006/0601_honda_fit_900.jpg

Kia Optima
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2006/0602_kia_optima_911.jpg

Lexus LS460
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2006/0601_lexus_ls460_01_900.jpg

2008 Lincoln MKS (pronounced 'Mark S')
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2006/0601_lincoln_mks_01.jpg

Lincoln Navigator
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2006_chicago/0603_lincoln_navigator_01_900.jpg

Mercury Milan
http://www.motorawards.com/ve/showcase/fotos/2006/mercury/milan/16903-t1.jpg

Nissan Altima
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2006_new_york/0606_2007_nissan_altima_01_900.jpg

Nissan Versa
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2006/0601_nissan_versa_002_900.jpg

Saturn Aura
http://www.americancarfans.com/news/2050107.007/2050107.007.1L.jpg

Saturn Sky
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2006/0602_saturn_sky_004_900.jpg

Toyota Yaris
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2006/0602_toyota_yaris_001_900.jpg

The US can make the best car in the world if it wants to. The US has a lot of other better things to think about like maintaining to be the most powerful country in the world. The best minds in the US are not working for the car companies, they are working for the defense & space technology companies.
Car companies are privately owned businesses, in case you forgot. The government has very little to do with the quality of the cars the companies produce. That is, unless the U.S. government decided to slap a huge fine on the companies for producing cars that are "crap".

Hmm, maybe I'm onto something.....

yaris sedan...that seems weird to me, they're not being sold in EU
small sedans are popular though

and American ford fusion, heh there is a ford fusion in EU but...a bit different ;) in europe it's a small...hmmmm miniSUV...more or less

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9htfR7LomdEDkEAcC.jzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=12mh6tbv8/EXP=1147728971/**http%3a//www.in.gr/auto/parousiaseis/foto_big/in_Ford_Fusion__06.jpg

^ Here in the US, with gas being as high as it is, small to midsized cars are more popular that SUVs (Escalade, GMC Yukon, Chevy Suburban notwitstanding. And even those are going to have a hybrid version within a year or so.)

And to answer your question about Renault doing well in the US: All of the Renault models would sell really well. Most likely the Laguna and the Megane above all else. And soccer moms would love the Espace. A mini van with a unique style.

High prices in the US...hehe wish to have that problem, I know gas prices were always low in America in comparison to Europe so you think your prices now are high.

but: Imagine that in Poland I currently pay... over 4 zlotys per litre of gas
1 dollar is 3 zlotys so that means I pay way more than 1 dollar for one litre...one litre is NOT one galon.
Here's the reason why cars in EU are smaller and have smaller engines

+ Poland is still behind western EU if it comes to wages...and prices of new cars are also high

that's why many people install LPG instalations ( 1 litre of LPG costs about 2 zlotys )

Diesel engines are more and more popular. Oil is not much cheaper than gas, but diesels need less of it and new turbodiesels have awesome performance for their size

eg. 1.6 diesel engine can develop 110 bhp, 1.3 90 bhp. 2.0 diesels 150 bhp and more

A gallon of gas here in the US is more or less $3 dollars a gallon. Which is alot. It isn't unheard of people paying over $100 dollars to fill up. Granted, they drive huge SUVs but I digress.

You won't see many diesel powered cars in the US but you'll see plenty of diesel trucks rumbling down the street.

ps hehe still can't get myself accustomed to your American way of categorizing size of cars.

Espace called a 'mini van' and so on.
Or I've heard that toyota camry is regarded a 'small/medium saloon in the US
sound strange to me ;) We have a different idea of size here and cars such as laguna are considered big. Perhaps if the wages in Poland will be closer to the US' level, automotive tastes change ;)

for now comparison of the bestseller in the US and Poland:

USA -toyota camry
http://www.brunswickautomart.com/toyota/images/camry.jpg

Poland -skoda fabia
http://www.autotapety.terramail.pl/fabia/skoda_fabia_13.jpg

filling up for a 100$

filling up a chrysler 300C in Poland would 'produce such a score' :D

^^ :lol: i remember going to poland and one of my relatives were fillin up their honda civic in Gdansk and i was like damn you paid $40 to fill up a civic it was suprising to me lol.

It looks like Japan, Germany and Italy make the best cars in the world. Ironically those were the countries that lost WWII but they have the best in ground transportation technology.

They surrendered to the US at that time, so the US allowed them learning US car technologies and exporting their cars to the US market against making US military bases in their lands. As the proof look at the pitiful appearances of the countries that rebelled against the US after WWII.

American Gas is still cheap relative to most of europe. In Britain petrol is approaching £1 a litre which would really get Americans thinking. It really annoys me that European car makers go to amazing lengths to squeeze 50mpg out of an executive saloon/family car but that American cars suffice at below 30. What is the point of us squeezing 50mpg out of european models when NEW cars in America (let alone the old ones) are far far less. I champion higher US gas prices and long may they rise as it may encourage the development of a little bit of environmental conscience. Switch to the cars that Europeans now commonly drive and see how much less you have to bother about your energy supply/costs then. Even better, reduce US consumption and give the world a breather on oil prices! The US lifestyle is way out of date it MUST start to change, for the world and for itself.


US cars may suit their market but in general the styling is so bland. I like some of the newer models, 300C but in general as long as they are big, frumpy, baddly engineered and gas guzzling then they'll sell. The US car industry is on its knees at last, and for one good reason, they make crap cars! Look at the interior of a US car compared to a European one, US ones are abismal and cheap looking.


French cars do appear to lead the way in styling at the moment, Citroen and Renault in particular. I think the espace would do very well in the US as well as the Megane and Laguna (new laguna above looks excellent btw). What ever happened to the Avantime?

Here's the best selling car in the Philippines and perhaps the South East Asian Market. Something most of you will never see unless you come over here. The Toyota Innova, a 7 to 8 seat mpv with a 4 cylinder engine (gas or diesel) retailing from Php 700,000 to Php 1,030,000 (US$13,500 to US$20,000) part of the Toyota IMV program which developed the Fortuner SUB and Dmax Pickup.


http://www.toyota.com.ph/media/phen/images/showroom/innova/innova_ga_800_08.jpg

At one point, Renault had controlling interest of AMC. They eventually sold this to Chrysler and pulled out of the US. Personally, I would love to see Renault and Peugeot come back to the US. The 405 and 505 did pretty well in New England (but poorly elsewhere, I guess). I think there would be room for a smaller. but more upscale, car.

But then I wonder if the styling is a little too odd for the general US population. The Nissan Quest is getting toned down this year because it was a little too out there, and this is a more normalized version of the Espace. Oh, the Nissan Versa - is that really the Megane made US appropriate?

if it comes to avantime, renault ceased producing it some time ago, it was too extravagant even for the European market.

and indeed... a 3d hatchback minivan :D

http://www.zgo.pl/motoryzacja/gfx_tapety/Renault_Avantime.jpg

I'm going to buy in two months time the new Honda Civic (European version) but at least here in Spain there's a problem with the delivery of the cars, nowadays Honda is taking 5 months with the delivery since you reserve the car.

http://www.motorintro.com/actuales/_images/honda_images/civic_concept2006/civicconcept2006_front.jpg

http://www.motorintro.com/actuales/_images/honda_images/civic_concept2006/civicconcept2006_lat.jpg

http://www.carbodydesign.com/production-cars/2005-08-03-new-honda-civic/New%20Honda%20Civic%207.jpg

Do you know if there's the same problem in other European countries?

Wich is the price in your country?

i.e. In Spain the Sport Gas version costs 21100 € and the Sport Diesel version 23100 €

Keep in mind that an imperial gallon is more than an american gallon. An american gallon is about 3.78 liters, and imperial is about 4.5 liters.

the new civic is...difficult to find words for it, definitely one of his kind

ou sorry...not one of its kind, there is another car like that

citroen c4 is a bit similiar in style, but still not as shocking
http://www.linternaute.com/auto/diaporama-mondial-automobile/citroen-c4.jpg
http://picnic.ciao.com/es/1169357.jpg

They surrendered to the US at that time, so the US allowed them learning US car technologies and exporting their cars to the US market against making US military bases in their lands. As the proof look at the pitiful appearances of the countries that rebelled against the US after WWII.

HAHA

Ok first of all: the axis powers surrendered to the allies.
Means the Soviet Union, the US, Great Britain and pretty much the rest of the world.

Secondly: The car is a german invention in case you forgot.
The americans snatched away a high proprtion of german technology after the war. Not vice versa.

Btw: If I had enough money Id probably buy this:

http://www.wallpaper.net.au/wallpaper/automotive/Audi%20RS4%20Sedan%202005%20Red%202%20-%20800x600.jpg
http://arabam.milliyet.com.tr/fuar/2005/cenevre/audi_rs4.jpg
http://www.pcauto.com.cn/newcar/abroad/audi/0509/pic/2050905.001.Mini13L.jpg

Audi RS4 :cheers:

HAHA

Ok first of all: the axis powers surrendered to the allies.
Means the Soviet Union, the US, Great Britain and pretty much the rest of the world.

Secondly: The car is a german invention in case you forgot.
The americans snatched away a high proprtion of german technology after the war. Not vice versa.

Japan, West Germany and Italy surrendered to the US and adopted American culture and made a model of Anglosaxon capitalism. The Soviets stole the nuclear technology the US invented and kept occupying East Germany by the stolen power and tortured East German people with Slavic values. Britain was already a pupil of the US in WWII but many Americans still respect Brits that divided the same blood. Cars were called toys for the nobility but were massproduced by the Ford system. The lower middle class like you wouldn't buy a car without Ford.

General Motors, Ford, and Chrysler were huge corporations before WWII. To imply that the American auto industry succeeded because they got German technology after WWII is ridiculous. GM has owned the German automaker Opel since the 1920's. Adolf Hitler nationalized it in the 1930's, but after WWII the Germans had to give it back to GM.

heh, Germany and Japan were in luck, being in the western zone gave them an opportunity to get HUUGE sums of money for reconstruction.
American money made both countries what they are now...

Unfortunately instead of American dollars, the Russians invested in Poland...with ideology of Marx and Lenin:(
If we were in the AMerican zone after WW2, Poland would be now one of the leadning countries in Europe...it did not happen and we have to catch up after 50 years of communism. A lot have been done during these years, eg Warsaw after the war was destroyed in 99 per cent...now it's againg the biggest city in central Europe. But...govermental transformation caused crisis and now we are cathing up having less than 20 years of experience as a free market economy:(

so...no Polish marques anymore:( only licensed producers

ps Germans had to give chrysler back...but eventually took over chrysler as a compensation;)

Lets keep politics out of this guys. No war discussion.

Chevrolet Camaro
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/9129/20xw2.jpg

It isn't set for production yet though, I assume it will be.

Secondly: The car is a german invention in case you forgot.
The americans snatched away a high proprtion of german technology after the war. Not vice versa.
Funny, considering that we had cars prior to WWII.

:weird:

Funny, considering that we had cars prior to WWII.

:weird:

Lol? Germany invented the car.
Dont forget that the VW beetle was already mass-produced before ww2.

Mercedes, Autounion, BMW were all large corporations before ww2.
And you guys like to forget that Germany was the first country in the world with a modern nationwide spanning highway network.
The world copied it :)

then we have the engines.

The OTTO engine (conventional engine which is in use in pretty much every car) is a german invention.
The Diesel engine is a german invention (developed by Rudolph Diesel)
And the Wankel engine is german aswell. (turbine engine that is still in use in some Mazda models like the RX-8


then youve got the airbag, abs etc etc you name it.
Honestly weve contributed more to the car development than any other nation.

Japan, West Germany and Italy surrendered to the US and adopted American culture and made a model of Anglosaxon capitalism. The Soviets stole the nuclear technology the US invented and kept occupying East Germany by the stolen power and tortured East German people with Slavic values. Britain was already a pupil of the US in WWII but many Americans still respect Brits that divided the same blood. Cars were called toys for the nobility but were massproduced by the Ford system. The lower middle class like you wouldn't buy a car without Ford.

the axis powers surrendered to the allies you nutter.
The Soviet Union alone contributed more to the victory of the allies in ww2 than any other nation by a very long shot.
And capitalism was around since ages. May I remind you that the first stock exchange was in the Netherlands?
In fact the first country in the world to fully adopt global capitalism was Great Britain.
And the nuclear bomb was merely invented by european scientists.
Ever heard of Einstein? Does that ring any bells?
And as I said: Cars like the VW Beetle were produced on a mass scale before ww2.
The Beetle is also the most sold car in the world to this date.

Car companies have always been big companies since the car was invented here.
Dont forget that Opel has been bought up by GM in 1926.And its still owned by GM. (which isnt very healthy for Opel :lol:)

General Motors, Ford, and Chrysler were huge corporations before WWII. To imply that the American auto industry succeeded because they got German technology after WWII is ridiculous. GM has owned the German automaker Opel since the 1920's. Adolf Hitler nationalized it in the 1930's, but after WWII the Germans had to give it back to GM.

I said: the americans and Soviets snatched of german technology after the war and not vice versa.
With that I mean military technology.
Nazi Germany was easily a mere 15 years ahead technologically wise.

Think of the first ballistic missiles, the first jet fighter/bomber, cruise missiles, infrared scopes etc etc etc...
It has nothing to do with the car industry but with general technology.
It was your friend SEG, who was implying that the US brought any kind of new car technology to Germany :lol:

Alfra Romeo Brera V6 Q4

http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Alfa%20Romeo/alfaRomeo_brera_manu-05.jpg

http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Alfa%20Romeo/alfaRomeo_brera_manu-03.jpg

http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Alfa%20Romeo/alfaRomeo_brera_manu-02.jpg

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/02/alfaspider06_01.jpg

Sex on wheels hehehe.

Alfa Romeo 159, poor Americans won't see this one either:

http://www.autogaleria.pl/tapety/img/alfa_romeo/alfa_romeo_159_2005_03_m.jpg

actually there's something wrong with the link and nobody sees it ;)

The new Alfa is great but its a bit underpowered

Alfa Romeo 159, poor Americans won't see this one either:


Don't be so sure. Alfa Plans Return to US (http://www.italiaspeed.com/2006/cars/alfa_romeo/05/usa/0405.html)

The Beetle is also the most sold car in the world to this date.
Nope, that's not correct. The VW Golf (Rabbit for the US-Americans) is now the most sold car to this date.

^ The Golf hasn't been called the Rabbit since the early 90's. Lol..my mom had a shit brown Rabbit. It was cool.

the axis powers surrendered to the allies you nutter.
The Soviet Union alone contributed more to the victory of the allies in ww2 than any other nation by a very long shot.
And capitalism was around since ages. May I remind you that the first stock exchange was in the Netherlands?
In fact the first country in the world to fully adopt global capitalism was Great Britain.
And the nuclear bomb was merely invented by european scientists.
Ever heard of Einstein? Does that ring any bells?
And as I said: Cars like the VW Beetle were produced on a mass scale before ww2.
The Beetle is also the most sold car in the world to this date.

Car companies have always been big companies since the car was invented here.
Dont forget that Opel has been bought up by GM in 1926.And its still owned by GM. (which isnt very healthy for Opel :lol:)

You learned so in the textbook at school in East Germany. No one believes what socialists or communists say here. Anglosaxon capitalism is a model for people all over the world and all capitalist governments. That's why the No1 countries that third world people want to live in are always the US and the UK, also the largest car company in the world is in the US.

You learned so in the textbook at school in East Germany. No one believes what socialists or communists say here. Anglosaxon capitalism is a model for people all over the world and all capitalist governments. That's why the No1 countries that third world people want to live in are always the US and the UK, also the largest car company in the world is in the US.

No it isn't. I lived in London for 5 years but had always planned my return to Malaysia. There are other countries that are also popular. Anyway, "third world" is an outdated nomenclature.

You learned so in the textbook at school in East Germany.

Im west german and unlike you, Ive learned something.


No one believes what socialists or communists say here. Anglosaxon capitalism is a model for people all over the world and all capitalist governments. That's why the No1 countries that third world people want to live in are always the US and the UK, also the largest car company in the world is in the US.

Then define Anglosaxon capitalism. Honestly Germany used to be either the 3rd or the second biggest economy since its founding in 1871.
Right now we are the third biggest economy in the world and the biggest exporting country (we just overtook you guys in 2002 ;) )
Apart from that, Germany is also the second biggest immigrational country in the world.
We routinely took in more immigrants in the 70s and 80s than the whole rest of europe combined.
In 1994 we even took in twice as many immigrants as France, Britain Spain and Italy combined.

And GM might still be the largest car company in the world, but in atleast a year Toyota will have overtaken them. ;)

^^And Checker, lets ask whether GM is making loads of money like Toyota? :)

Yes their profits are lower compared to Toyota and other manufacturers.
Reason for that is, that they have to splash out big ammounts for pension funding and their car plants are not being operated as effectively as comparable asian or eastern european car plants of other companies.
Their sales are also going down due to a lack of new innovations.

Yup. Seems they were focused on SUVs but with the rising price of petrol, SUVs are not selling well. And if I am not mistaken, the pension funds are the defined benefit rather than defined contribution type.

I am not a Toyota supporter by the way as I drive a Honda. :D

Yup. Seems they were focused on SUVs but with the rising price of petrol, SUVs are not selling well. And if I am not mistaken, the pension funds are the defined benefit rather than defined contribution type.

I am not a Toyota supporter by the way as I drive a Honda. :D

Not really, that's a common misconception. Light truck sales are still doing better than car sales. And while much hot air has been made about Toyota's Prius, a lot of people conveniently ignore that Toyota (and the other Japanese automakers) are tripping over themselves to release as many enormous SUVs and trucks as possible, because that's where the growth is.

Some of General Motors finest:

The Saturn Sky

http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2007/2007-Saturn-Sky-Roadster-SA-Sunset-1920x1440.jpg

The Cadillac XLR-V

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/02/xlrv06_01.jpg

The Chevrolet Corvette Z06

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/07/corvettez0606_01.jpg

The Buick Lucerne

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_chicago/lucerne/images/1.jpg

The Chevrolet HHR

http://images.consumerguide.com/autoreview/400x266/2006-Chevrolet-HHR-06124511990002.JPG

The legendary Cadillac Escalade

http://www.canadiandriver.com/photos/2007/cadillac/escalade/07escalade_1.jpg

The Cadillac CTS-V and STS-V

http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2006/2006-Cadillac-STS-V-CTS-V-1920x1440.jpg

:cheers:

Im west german and unlike you, Ive learned something.



Then define Anglosaxon capitalism. Honestly Germany used to be either the 3rd or the second biggest economy since its founding in 1871.
Right now we are the third biggest economy in the world and the biggest exporting country (we just overtook you guys in 2002 ;) )
Apart from that, Germany is also the second biggest immigrational country in the world.
We routinely took in more immigrants in the 70s and 80s than the whole rest of europe combined.
In 1994 we even took in twice as many immigrants as France, Britain Spain and Italy combined.

And GM might still be the largest car company in the world, but in atleast a year Toyota will have overtaken them. ;)

Are you west German? Americans don't hate west Germans because the Anglosaxons have roots in Germany, who belong to the Teutons (the ancient German tribes), so you don't need to be so aggresive. The Teutons are a symbol of virility and seriousness. But Americans prefer Brits to Germans because Americans and Brits shared the same blood in the near past.

You learned so in the textbook at school in East Germany. No one believes what socialists or communists say here. Anglosaxon capitalism is a model for people all over the world and all capitalist governments. That's why the No1 countries that third world people want to live in are always the US and the UK, also the largest car company in the world is in the US.
and you seem to present American history books then, huh?

You undermine the fact that the soviets contributed to the victory?

look, I'm Polish, for a few ages now Poles generally don't trust Russians...however, we do have eyes...and Polish eyes saw what how great the soviet contribution was, especially that their armys and our eastern army fought together against the Germans and took over Berlin, that's why there were two flags in Berlin after is was conquered -soviet and polish

Russians almost lost Moscow to the Germans, still, they were the ones who took over Berlin...no the Americans



You also seem to think that everything what's American is the best...and not mentioning the fact that you disregard what Checker said...
And treating the German technology as obsolete is... wow, perhaps the biggest car company is American...still people preffer BMW audis and mercedeses...if only can afford them

And if you want to compare WW2 German tech against American, I'll give a simple example: try to destroyed a panther or tiger tank with a sherman...

Before you call somebodys' knowledge invalid, try to assess your own first

Not really, that's a common misconception. Light truck sales are still doing better than car sales. And while much hot air has been made about Toyota's Prius, a lot of people conveniently ignore that Toyota (and the other Japanese automakers) are tripping over themselves to release as many enormous SUVs and trucks as possible, because that's where the growth is.

Interesting. However, my comments was on SUVs, not light trucks. See the following newsreports.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/03/automobiles/03auto.html?ex=1304308800&en=1abef7cfb345df9e&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0509/02/A01-301633.htm

Cheers

and you seem to present American history books then, huh?

You undermine the fact that the soviets contributed to the victory?

look, I'm Polish, for a few ages now Poles generally don't trust Russians...however, we do have eyes...and Polish eyes saw what how great the soviet contribution was, especially that their armys and our eastern army fought together against the Germans and took over Berlin, that's why there were two flags in Berlin after is was conquered -soviet and polish

Russians almost lost Moscow to the Germans, still, they were the ones who took over Berlin...no the Americans



You also seem to think that everything what's American is the best...and not mentioning the fact that you disregard what Checker said...
And treating the German technology as obsolete is... wow, perhaps the biggest car company is American...still people preffer BMW audis and mercedeses...if only can afford them

And if you want to compare WW2 German tech against American, I'll give a simple example: try to destroyed a panther or tiger tank with a sherman...

Before you call somebodys' knowledge invalid, try to assess your own first

Poland was divided by Germany and the Soviets and was vanished in 1939, but Britain and France recognized it and the US wasn't interested in. The cause for US entry into WWII was British cry for help. It was 2 years after Polish disappearance. The strong bond between the US and Britain moved and made the world's people cry. The US was the only country who was able to caution the Soviets and contributed to Polish independence. But if Germany didn't touch Britain, the US would ignore German territorial expansion.

Poland was divided by Germany and the Soviets and was vanished in 1939, but Britain and France recognized it and the US wasn't interested in. The cause for US entry into WWII was British cry for help. It was 2 years after Polish disappearance. The strong bond between the US and Britain moved and made the world's people cry. The US was the only country who was able to caution the Soviets and contributed to Polish independence. But if Germany didn't touch Britain, the US would ignore German territorial expansion.

Wow, and here I thought the US entry to WWII was initially due to the attack at Pearl Harbour in the Pacific and later Germany declared war on the US. ;)

Wonder what would be the outcome in Europe if Germany had not done so. The US would have been able to concentrate fully on the Japanese. The war in the Pacific might have ended earlier perhaps?

Lets get back to matters relating to latest vehicles please.

BMW-Z10
============
http://paultan.org/wp-content/Z100001.jpg

NEW M3
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http://autoblog.it/uploads/bmw_m3_e90_autospies.jpg

7Series!
http://img1.photobucket.com/albums/0903/zadkab/cars/BMW_760.jpg

http://img1.photobucket.com/albums/0903/zadkab/cars/BMW_760Li.jpg

Looks good! But isnt it too much luxury for an M3 :/?

actually I don't like the BMW 5 and 7, as well as the new S-klasse
i mean, they are superb cars but...compare the interior of the new S klasse and BMW 7...looks very similiar...no individual style which one was the thing which differed the two marques so much

previosu mercedes S and BMW 7 were the essence of the two different views on cars...now nothing's legt from this individualism

Looks good! But isnt it too much luxury for an M3 :/?
What's BMW 7 serie's. ;) Probably... :)

LAST 2PIC ABOVE IS 7 Series!

Please keep the international relations discussions out of this otherwise great thread!

new m3 is fine, but no car can compare with this


http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/3544/20058171613023lq.jpg

:master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :cheers:

older BMW rules -you can see it's a bmw at first glance

older BMW rules -you can see it's a bmw at first glance
I agree only because I like 4 door cars :okay:

this cars are made by Suzuki Hungary

SX4
http://www.suzuki.hu/^upload/autogaleria/sx4/09.large.jpg

http://www.suzuki.hu/^upload/autogaleria/sx4/07.large.jpg


Swift
http://www.suzuki.hu/^upload/autogaleria/swift3/01.large.jpg

http://www.suzuki.hu/^upload/autogaleria/swift3/07.large.jpg

this is a 360° photo of a swift, it is on hungarian but simply left click on the
image hold down the button and move the mose, if you will try other colours
just click the colour you wish on the left.

360° photo of the swift (http://www.suzuki.hu/autok/swift/szinek/index.xml)

the dodge caliber - see them everywhere here - selling well

http://www.linternaute.com/auto/diaporama-mondial-geneve/dodge%20caliber.jpg

http://www.chrysler.lv/images/chryslerinside/news/dodge_caliber.jpg

dodge charger

http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/235-21443-479624-19701/Dodge-Charger-Coupe.jpg

http://www.autoclub.com.au/uploaded_images/dodge-charger-srt8-super-bee-734049.jpg

chevrolet hhr

http://www.womanmotorist.com/images/articles/reviews/chevrolet/2006-CHEVROLET-HHR.jpg

http://www.canadiandriver.com/photos/2006/chevrolet/hhr/06hhr_1-1.jpg

That Dodge Charger looks like the new shape Mustang. Its not the same person Designing them is it?

Spongeg - where is here?

I have only seen 2 of them. One was in a dealer lot. Up here in New England they don't seem to be doing well. But the same oes for the Magnum and Charger - people find them too big, too hungry, and too difficult in the winter.

this cars are made by Suzuki Hungary

SX4
http://www.suzuki.hu/^upload/autogaleria/sx4/09.large.jpg

http://www.suzuki.hu/^upload/autogaleria/sx4/07.large.jpg


Swift
http://www.suzuki.hu/^upload/autogaleria/swift3/01.large.jpg

http://www.suzuki.hu/^upload/autogaleria/swift3/07.large.jpg

this is a 360° photo of a swift, it is on hungarian but simply left click on the
image hold down the button and move the mose, if you will try other colours
just click the colour you wish on the left.

360° photo of the swift (http://www.suzuki.hu/autok/swift/szinek/index.xml)

I really, really like the interior of the new Swift

Nice thread - keep coming !

Other french car

Bugatti Veyron 16.4 is the most powerful, most expensive, and fastest street-legal production car in the world,
Maximum speed more 400 Khp
Price 1,000,000 € £810,000 1,300,000 $

http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/photo/2005-12/20964129.jpg
http://www.qv500.com/Bugatti%20Veyron%20P3%204.jpg
http://allaboutspeed.ru/category/cars/03/img.jpg


My next car :lol:

I saw one of these babies driving by the other day. It's not a french car thought, it's german, constructed by VW.

I saw one of these babies driving by the other day. It's not a french car thought, it's german, constructed by VW.


VW constructed this car but Bugatti is french.

VW constructed this car but Bugatti is french.

The Bugatti Brand is owned by Volkswagen.
They just bought the name because they thought it sounds more glamourous than lets say a "Volkswagen Veyron"

Btw: The founder of Bugatti was italian and the factory he founded was located in Molsheim/Germany.
It was located in Alsace which after ww1 went to France.
So you could say that this car is a genuine italian/german car :)

GM is the largest car company in the world.

^^ Thats true but at the moment they are in very serious risk of running bankrupt.
And Toyota will very surely be the biggest car company around next year

Lol? Germany invented the car.
Dont forget that the VW beetle was already mass-produced before ww2.

Mercedes, Autounion, BMW were all large corporations before ww2.
And you guys like to forget that Germany was the first country in the world with a modern nationwide spanning highway network.
The world copied it :)

then we have the engines.

The OTTO engine (conventional engine which is in use in pretty much every car) is a german invention.
The Diesel engine is a german invention (developed by Rudolph Diesel)
And the Wankel engine is german aswell. (turbine engine that is still in use in some Mazda models like the RX-8


then youve got the airbag, abs etc etc you name it.
Honestly weve contributed more to the car development than any other nation.

A full mechanical version of ABS was invented in the 1920s by bosch. But they didn't pioneer its use. Argueably the USA contributed substantially to the design and use of ABS too.

Anti-lock brake systems were first employed in airplanes during the 1950s but mass production and use of ABS on mass-produced automobiles commenced in the early 1980s. ABS as we know it was more likely developed by Boeing according to most data.

Anti-skid technology had been around for many years prior to its use on the Concorde and was first used in the B-47. The unit was developed in 1947. In 1948, Hydro-Aire was licensed by Boeing to design, produce and market the Hytrol Mark I antiskid brake control system." Boeing invented the anti-skid system and then licensed it to brake vendors, ie Hydro-Aire.

hey cool thread you guys got going here, I love cars alot too. I currently got a toyota camry GLi, when you drive it, then you know why it was the highest selling cars in the states! & I am waiting to trade it in for the new hybrid one. will post pics of some other new cars, that I dont see here.

New BMW 3 series Coupe
this car will be offered with a twin turbo!
http://img349.imageshack.us/img349/456/12007bmw3seriescoupe335i328ie9.jpg
http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/2769/22007bmw3seriescoupe335i328ie9.jpg
http://img450.imageshack.us/img450/2430/32007bmw3seriescoupe335i328ie9.jpg
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/3397/42007bmw3seriescoupe335i328ie9.jpg

THAT'S THE TRUE STYLE AND POWER

ferrari 599 GTB
http://www.autoblog.it/uploads/ferrari_599_gtb_02.jpg

ferrari F430
http://www.motordesktop.com/wallpaper/supercars/Ferarri%20F430%20Red%201%20-%201024x768.jpg

http://www.econ.kuleuven.be/public/ndbaf47/Wallpapers/Ferrari/Ferrari-F430-06-1024.jpg

maserati MC12

http://www.motordesktop.com/wallpaper/supercars/Maserati%20MC12%20Stradale%20-%201024x768.jpg

http://img71.exs.cx/img71/3995/picsfg8ty.jpg


maserati quattroporte sport gt has won recently the prestigious Robb Report "best of the best" among bentley continental flying spur,maybach 57s, audi S8 and BMW M5.

http://www.italiancar.com.au/images/Quattroporte%20Images%20front50_lg.jpg

http://www.modernracer.com/features/iaashow2003pics/iaashow2003pic18.jpg

and this will be the new income in the market in 2007: the ALFA ROMEO 8C equipped with a 400+hp engine.
it will cost about 120.000€-140.000€ and will be built 500 copies.

http://www.sfondideldesktop.com/Images-Cars/Alfa-Romeo/8c/Alfa-Romeo-8c-0001/Alfa-Romeo-8c-0001.jpg

http://stud3.tuwien.ac.at/~e0103683/pics/Photoshop/Alfa-Romeo-Fl%FCgel.jpg

http://www.autoweek.nl/download/wallpaper/alfa_romeo/800x600alfaromeo8ccompetizione2.jpg

absolutely amazing together with the brera (this last one achieved 6000 orders) :runaway:

and don't forget the new fiat 500 (on the market in autumn 2007)
see this site www.fiat500.com

http://www.omniauto.it/awpImages/photogallery/2005/4158/photos/fiat_trepiuno_26994.jpg

http://www.omniauto.it/awpImages/photogallery/2005/4158/photos/fiat_trepiuno_26997.jpg

Saw that maseratti in the new Mariah Carey Video, amazing car!

Spongeg - where is here?

I have only seen 2 of them. One was in a dealer lot. Up here in New England they don't seem to be doing well. But the same oes for the Magnum and Charger - people find them too big, too hungry, and too difficult in the winter.

hey in Vancouver, Canada

Does anybody know when the BMW 1 Series will start selling in North America?

Your'll still dont have the 1 series? :eek:
Its been out here for like almost 1 & half years!

New M3?
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/7071/morebmwm3coupeandsedanspyphoto.jpg

^^ Thats true but at the moment they are in very serious risk of running bankrupt.
And Toyota will very surely be the biggest car company around next year

A fat lot I care. The US keeps Toyota alive. The US keeps Japan alive. But your way of writing didn't excite me at all. Show off your manhood to me.

^^ lol the US keeps Japan alive?
Can you explain that to us in detail? :lol:

And by the way: Customers arent forced to by a certain car brand.
Toyota just produces better cars than GM. Thats why their sales statistics are rising whereas GMs are falling.

The latest is that we are not going to get it. They figure that at the price hey would sell it over here they wouldn't sell too many, and it would be too competative with the Mini. But with gas prices going the way they are, don't take that as a long term decision - expect some changes. I am wondering if they will reconsider reconsidering selling the A-class over here. I just want to see one in real life.

what do you think about this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4t2GW93Lm0

marvellous, isn't it?
it's a prototype yet but it's probable that it will be a series car with cost of 60k-70k €.

^^ how did you do that, I mean the php code thing.

Edit: Oyi! Where did that php code thing go?

^^ lol the US keeps Japan alive?
Can you explain that to us in detail? :lol:

And by the way: Customers arent forced to by a certain car brand.
Toyota just produces better cars than GM. Thats why their sales statistics are rising whereas GMs are falling.

The central customers who boost Toyota's sales are just Americans, and who reduce GM's sales are Americans too. In certain cases we can boycott Toyotas and buy only domestics. This will surely be a vital blow to Toyota. But I don't want to bully Toyota or the Japanese very much. We Americans have room as the hegemon not to care about GM.

The central customers who boost Toyota's sales are just Americans, and who reduce GM's sales are Americans too.



Toyota has a share of around 6 percent in the EU which is the biggest car market in the world I believe.
They even have higher sales in Asia. Keep in mind that the asian car market is the strongest growing car market in the world.
Toyota also has around 47 percent of the market in Japan.

Of course america is very important especially since the local companies are struggling, but other markets are just as vital.

Toyota has a share of around 6 percent in the EU which is the biggest car market in the world I believe.
They even have higher sales in Asia. Keep in mind that the asian car market is the strongest growing car market in the world.
Toyota also has around 47 percent of the market in Japan.

Of course america is very important especially since the local companies are struggling, but other markets are just as vital.

The US market is the most important in the world needless to say. The world doesn't work without the US. Who do you think you are?

The US market is the most important in the world needless to say. The world doesn't work without the US. Who do you think you are?

Bullshit.

the EU is the biggest trading block on earth.
We are the biggest consumers and we are the biggest economy.
The euro will take over from the dollar in a few years to become the worlds currency of choice.

Who the hell do you think you are?

Btw: The world has worked very well for centuries without the US.
But the world wouldnt work wihtout europe. ;)

the new ALFA SPIDER has been official presented to the world reporters.

http://www.fiatautopress.com/download/GRUPPO01~MODELLI_ATTUALI_AR/060614_AR_Spider04_800.jpg

http://www.fiatautopress.com/download/GRUPPO01~MODELLI_ATTUALI_AR/060614_AR_Spider14_800.jpg

http://www.fiatautopress.com/download/GRUPPO01~MODELLI_ATTUALI_AR/060614_AR_Spider31_800.jpg

http://www.virtualcar.it/public/wp-content/uploads/arspider0619.jpg

brera style doesn't disappoint !!!

what do you think about?

^ I think it's a damn shame we can't buy that over here in the US. :(

Bullshit.

the EU is the biggest trading block on earth.
We are the biggest consumers and we are the biggest economy.
The euro will take over from the dollar in a few years to become the worlds currency of choice.

Who the hell do you think you are?

Btw: The world has worked very well for centuries without the US.
But the world wouldnt work wihtout europe. ;)
yes it will. China will the biggest cosumers and the biggest economy. China will dominate all. JK JK

Seriously, these supremacy craps that should not be tolerated in this forum :bash:

You will. They are planning to start selling again in the US sometime in 2007. Thorugh the Maseratti network for now (they own Maseratti), but eventually on their own.

So they say.

Bullshit.

the EU is the biggest trading block on earth.
We are the biggest consumers and we are the biggest economy.
The euro will take over from the dollar in a few years to become the worlds currency of choice.

Who the hell do you think you are?

Btw: The world has worked very well for centuries without the US.
But the world wouldnt work wihtout europe. ;)

If you want to match the EU against the US, admit that Germany is no longer a country. It sounds unlikely, so don't take an opposing stance to the US forever. If you were colored I would never forgive you.

If you want to match the EU against the US, admit that Germany is no longer a country. It sounds unlikely, so don't take an opposing stance to the US forever. If you were colored I would never forgive you.
Ok the EU is a major player but damn...a whole continent to equal the US...wow. GM will be just fine. Look for a rebound very shortly. I for one am about to buy some of their stock. As for this comment I am not sure how to take it since I am "colored". Please explain.

^^ The EU is not a continent.
The EU is a union of states. Not all countries in Europe are part of it.

yes it will. China will the biggest cosumers and the biggest economy. China will dominate all. JK JK


I guess that will take its time.
Until now they are still considerably behind Germany let alone the EU or the US
But its true. the chinese consumer market is growing fast and eventually they will overtake the US at some point. ;)

Ok the EU is a major player but damn...a whole continent to equal the US...wow. GM will be just fine. Look for a rebound very shortly. I for one am about to buy some of their stock. As for this comment I am not sure how to take it since I am "colored". Please explain.

You know, whites are the most beautiful of 3 major races and live in beautiful houses. You better consider your position, man. Even I can respect a more beautiful man with a higher academic background than me. Of all whites I think the Anglosaxons who founded the US are greatest but look down on the Slavs who have lower living standards than us.

doubblepost

I think SEG has now completely gone bonkers :lol:

2006 DODGE HORNET CONCEPT

http://paultan.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/dodge_hornet_1.jpg

http://paultan.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/dodge_hornet_2.jpg

http://paultan.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/dodge_hornet_11.jpg

http://paultan.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/dodge_hornet_3.jpg

DAMN! I like that!

enjoy this movie http://www.machinewarriors.com/ :cheers:

You know, whites are the most beautiful of 3 major races and live in beautiful houses. You better consider your position, man. Even I can respect a more beautiful man with a higher academic background than me. Of all whites I think the Anglosaxons who founded the US are greatest but look down on the Slavs who have lower living standards than us.


omg...I know some people have thoughts like that but to say it on a thread vistited by every race and nationality is apalling.

http://www.vieux-volants.com/Galerie%20photos/7e%20Roller%20rollermobil%20treffen%20Winistorf%203%2007%202004/Bond%20BUG%20700%20ES_small1.JPG

I happen to like this car.

French car

Peugeot 607

http://news.autovia.sk/img/galleries/pe6740_413433a45fa90.jpg
http://news.autovia.sk/img/galleries/pe6720_413433a3bae9c.jpg
http://news.autovia.sk/img/galleries/pe6700_413433a37f691.jpg

Peugeot 407 coupé

http://www.autogaleria.pl/fotografie/peugeot/peugeot_407_coupe_2005_01.jpg
http://www.autogaleria.pl/fotografie/peugeot/peugeot_407_coupe_2005_03.jpg
http://www.autogaleria.pl/fotografie/peugeot/peugeot_407_coupe_2005_04.jpg

Peugeot 407

http://www.autogaleria.pl/fotografie/peugeot/peugeot_407_2004_03.jpg
http://www.autogaleria.pl/fotografie/peugeot/peugeot_407_2004_02.jpg
http://www.autogaleria.pl/fotografie/peugeot/peugeot_407_2004_04.jpg
break Peugeot 407 SW
http://www.autogaleria.pl/fotografie/peugeot/peugeot_407_sw_2004_02.jpg
http://www.autogaleria.pl/fotografie/peugeot/peugeot_407_sw_2004_01.jpg
http://www.autogaleria.pl/fotografie/peugeot/peugeot_407_sw_2004_04.jpg

Peugeot 307 cc

http://www.autogaleria.pl/fotografie/peugeot/peugeot_307_cc_2005_01.jpg
http://www.reportmotori.it/Peugeot%20New%20307%20CC-%20Laterale800.jpg
http://images.google.fr/url?q=http://www.bimmerfest.com/photos/data/2/5590307cc.jpg
http://www.reportmotori.it/Peugeot%20New%20307%20-%20Plancia800.jpg

The US market is the most important in the world needless to say. The world doesn't work without the US. Who do you think you are?

You know, whites are the most beautiful of 3 major races and live in beautiful houses. You better consider your position, man. Even I can respect a more beautiful man with a higher academic background than me. Of all whites I think the Anglosaxons who founded the US are greatest but look down on the Slavs who have lower living standards than us.

Simply derisory.
Oh, and yes I am colored. :)

another marvellous prototype: the ALFA DIVA
there is a good possibility of a series production for this car, while the "8C competizione" will be produced in 500 copies (spider & coupè)

http://www.infomotori.com/foto/N/art_17133_3_1.jpg

http://www.infomotori.com/foto/N/art_17133_3_2.jpg

http://www.infomotori.com/foto/N/art_17133_3_6.jpg

^ Hmmmm....

http://www.atspeedimages.com/pebble_2004/concorso_italiano/ferrari_enzo/ferrari_enzo_red_2.jpg

Seperated at birth? Or is someone over there unable to afford a designer?

Sorry about the huge picture by the way, it's all I could find.

Porsche 911 997 GT3 RS

6 cil boxer
3.6l
415hp
Around 140-150.000€
0 -100 km/h : 4,2 s
310 km/h

http://www.km77.com/marcas/porsche/2006/911/gt3rs/gra/02.jpg

http://www.km77.com/marcas/porsche/2006/911/gt3rs/gra/01.jpg

http://www.km77.com/marcas/porsche/2006/911/gt3rs/gra/30.jpg

http://www.km77.com/marcas/porsche/2006/911/gt3rs/gra/34.jpg

i went to an auto show few months ago in tel aviv
these r some of the pics i took, i don't really know the full name of all models so maybe u can help me. sorry about the not-so-good quality, there were so many people in the way, i didn't have time to set the focus

Alfa (Brera i think)
http://i6.************/14xdk41.jpg

Alfa 159
http://i6.************/14xdpcj.jpg

Mazda's new SUV
http://i6.************/14xdste.jpg

batmobile?
http://i5.************/14xdwu8.jpg

Ford Iosis (concept)
http://i5.************/14xe2gx.jpg

Lexus RX 350 (I love u!)
http://i6.************/14xebk8.jpg

well the server died so that's it for now! i'll post some more 2morrow

LOL, everybody knows that european cars are way superior than american cars, specially italian and german cars. Actually, american cars are very tacky-looking!
Thank God the majority if cars in Argentina are european!

LOL, everybody knows that european cars are way superior than american cars, specially italian and german cars. Actually, american cars are very tacky-looking!

That might have been true in the recent past, but you gotta admit that American car makers have made major improvements on styling in the past few years. I mean, just look at Pontiac Solstice, Chrysler 300C, Saturn Sky--just to name a few! What I think U.S. car makers could improve, however, is over-all reliability and build quality..

Also, two of some of my most favorite cars in the world happen to be American:

http://www.wheelkinetics.com/html/hre/C5HRE547.jpg

http://www.redlinemotorsportsintl.com/99viper_gts.jpg

Mmmwwaaaaa..... :drool:


Thank God the majority if cars in Argentina are european!
I'm pretty sure if God came to Earth, he would be driving this baby:

http://www.pistonheads.com/fastcars/images/saleen-s7-04.jpg

(For those who don't know, it's a Saleen S7. And it's... *gasp!* ...American!)

Heres the new British Noble M15.
http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2006/2006-Noble-M15-Front-Right-1024x768.jpg
http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2006/2006-Noble-M15-Front-1280x960.jpg
http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2006/2006-Noble-M15-Rear-Detail-1024x768.jpg
0-62 mph < 3.5 seconds
BHP 455hp @ 6800rpm
Top Speed 185 mph
Engine 3 Litre V6!!!!
Who needs Aston Martin? Noble are the new Super car boys on the block.

Indeed, Chrysler definitely improved the styling on their cars, I must admit I quite like Chrysler cars, but then again, it's Daimler-Chrysler, therefore there's an european influence!

I think they are gimicky. Too much retro, not enough style.

Some of the shared Chrysler/M-B models are alright, but even there I think Mercedes is loosing their understated luxury look and gone a little too trendy. Doesn't feel upscale anymore.

^^ I aggree.

the new Mercedes cars look a bit old fashioned and corny to me. They certainly need to improve on their designs.

I think BMW is quite ok. Chris Bangle is doing a great job as their design chief at the moment.

^^ I aggree.

the new Mercedes cars look a bit old fashioned and corny to me. They certainly need to improve on their designs.

I think BMW is quite ok. Chris Bangle is doing a great job as their design chief at the moment.


Bangle go home.
But the new 3 series coupe seems really beautiful

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/auto/car-smiley-030.gif

New Seat Leon FR

2.0 TurboFSI 200hp
2.0 TDI 170hp

http://www.km77.com/marcas/seat/2006/leon/fr/g01.asp

http://www.motorpasion.com/archivos/images/seat_leon_ii_fr-05.jpg

http://www.motorpasion.com/archivos/images/seat_leon_ii_fr-06.jpg





Leon Prototype, future Cupra with 2.0 TFSI 270hp would seems like this.

http://www.km77.com/marcas/seat/prototipos/leon/gra/02.jpg

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/EVENT_LEAF/20050302/102282/02.jpg

http://www.km77.com/marcas/seat/prototipos/leon/gra/09.jpg





Leon Supercopa, 280hp

http://www.autointell.de/News-deutsch-2005/Dez-2005/D-2005-2/seat-leon-supercopa-115.jpg


http://www.autointell.de/News-deutsch-2005/Dez-2005/D-2005-2/seat-leon-supercopa-rear-115.jpg





2005 FR

1.8 Turbo 180hp
1.9 TDI 150hp

http://img.lenta.ru/news/2005/07/14/seat/picture.jpg

The latest from Malaysia: (just launched last Friday!)



PROTON SATRIA NEO


http://media.paultan.org/satrianeo/satrianeo_front.jpg


http://media.paultan.org/satrianeo/satrianeo_front1.jpg


http://media.paultan.org/satrianeo/satrianeo_campro.jpg

^^ Proton's own engine - the 1.6 Campro ;)


http://media.paultan.org/satrianeo/satrianeo_dash3.jpg


http://media.paultan.org/satrianeo/satrianeo_rearspoiler.jpg


http://paultan.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/satrianeo_blue.jpg


note: The outgoing Satria are based on the old Mitsubishi Colt. This car however are resting on a new chassis developed by Proton. Of course (like all newer Protons) the ride and handling are tuned by Lotus (a Proton subsidiary) ;)

EU isnt even a country its not really fair to even compare it to the usa because it was a developed country way before the usa besides the united states is growing alot faster than the EU.http://www.timbro.com/euvsusa/

2007 Chrysler Sebring

http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/4429/sebring9xu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/7342/b3ex.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

EU isnt even a country its not really fair to even compare it to the usa because it was a developed country way before the usa besides the united states is growing alot faster than the EU.http://www.timbro.com/euvsusa/


I agree with you completely the data does not lie but you are not going anywhere with that. This forum is control by Europeans i try to have civil debate and i was pretty much call an arrogant american. It is true there are some segments of the car industry that Germans and Italians lead but allot of European car brands are U.S own for Example:

Land Rover, Jaguar, Saab, Opel, Volvo Aston Martin,

Land rover is the best 4x4 in the world

And you know something and they love our Hummers is the fastest growing 4x4 in sales in Europe!

G.M And ford are still the #1 and#2 car producers in the world!

BUt toyota is the Most profitable

Ford Europe leads in Sales in Great Britain, Spain, Poland ,Romania, Greece

The E.U is not even a countr! but if it was the U.S will still lead!

the state of California is the 8th economy in the world

If the state of california was independent it could belong to the G8

Yes the european countries were develop before the U.S.A until they destriy each other in ww11 and the U.S had to rebuild them!

E.U now that is a great power should pay the U.S goverment with regular interest the amount of aid they received for marshall Plan "Which Is Billions" and then they should pay for their own military defense and not receive money from the U.S.

Yes the european countries were develop before the U.S.A until they destriy each other in ww11 and the U.S had to rebuild them!

E.U now that is a great power should pay the U.S goverment with regular interest the amount of aid they received for marshall Plan "Which Is Billions" and then they should pay for their own military defense and not receive money from the U.S.

half of the eu states didnt get a penny from marshall plan anyway
and after reading your posts on several threads im sorry to say but u r a helpless ignorant moron so i suggest u to go and read some european history and try to open your narrow mind a bit maybe then u will have clues why europeans dislike the american rightwing attitude in general.

[QUOTE=kucksi]half of the eu states didnt get a penny from marshall plan anyway
and after reading your posts on several threads im sorry to say but u r a helpless ignorant moron so i suggest u to go and read some european history and try to open your narrow mind a bit maybe then u will have clues why europeans dislike the american rightwing attitude in general.[/QUOTE



Hungary did not get money from the U.S because it became comunist under rusian rule! NOW Britain, France ,Germany which are the powerhouse countries of Europe which pretty much finance the debt of your country Hungary in order to enter the E.U . Did reveived billions of dollars.


HUngary is one of the poorest E.U countries it cannot even compare to our poorest state!

Very Nice Thread you guys got goin here. You want to see the fastest production car? Screw the Bugatti, way to expesenive. I present to you the new Koenigsegg CCX. 0-60 in 3.1 secs, Top Speed: 245 mph, 90-degree V 8 thats right a V8...

http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Koenigsegg/koenigs_ccx_manu-06_001.jpg

http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Koenigsegg/2006-Koenigsegg-CCX-HR-manu-07.jpg

http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Koenigsegg/2006-Koenigsegg-CCX-HR-manu-026.jpg

806HP, 678Torque, It's what every other car wants to be!!

http://www.koenigsegg.com/graphics/enlarge/ccx_studio_side_open.jpg

http://www.koenigsegg.com/graphics/enlarge/ccx_interior.jpg

http://www.koenigsegg.com/graphics/ccx_design_engine.jpg

And for only $600G's, I do believe!! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

How could you say no to that? :cheers:

NOW Britain, France ,Germany which are the powerhouse countries of Europe which pretty much finance the debt of your country Hungary in order to enter the E.U . Did reveived billions of dollars.
In the mean time, the USA has a huge current balance deficit. This means that they're importing much more than they're exporting. Normally, a country would get into serious problems when doing it for such a long period. Only because of the trillions of euros poured into the US by European powerhouses such as Germany and the Netherlands, the US can still sustain.

Hungary did not get money from the U.S because it became comunist under rusian rule! NOW Britain, France ,Germany which are the powerhouse countries of Europe which pretty much finance the debt of your country Hungary in order to enter the E.U . Did reveived billions of dollars.


The marshall plan aid is overrated. Fact is that germanys economy was already in full swing again when the money was paid out.
The Deutsche Mark had already been introduced and the economy was booming.
The Marshall Plan money wasnt too much anyways. It was just a gesture to show the people in Germany and Europe that america is supporting them against the Soviet Union. nothing more.

Germany received 3 times less than France or Britain and on a whole received around the same amount as the Netherlands.

That shows you.

No. Germany managed to built itself up after the war. Germany used to be an economic powerhouse before ww1 and we quickly became the worlds second biggest economy after ww2.And that was thanks to the huge intellectual property that Germany was still holding, and to the hard work of millions.
It had nothing to do with the marshll plan money.

Besides, dont forget that america profited hugely from ww2. Several economic competitors were ruined by the war, which left the biggest share of the world market to the US after the war.

Very Nice Thread you guys got goin here. You want to see the fastest production car? Screw the Bugatti, way to expesenive. I present to you the new Koenigsegg CCX. 0-60 in 3.1 secs, Top Speed: 245 mph, 90-degree V 8 thats right a V8...



And for only $600G's, I do believe!! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

How could you say no to that? :cheers:

Yep Absinth, really awesome car, its amazing how much power that V8 delivers! 800bhp!

I sat in one last year, nearly break my kneck on take off!

V12 CL600, cant wait to see the CL63 //AMG!

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/NewMercedes-BenzCL-ClassUnveiled_1.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/NewMercedes-BenzCL-ClassUnveiled_2.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/NewMercedes-BenzCL-ClassUnveiled_3.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/NewMercedes-BenzCL-ClassUnveiled_5.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/NewMercedes-BenzCL-ClassUnveiled_10.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/NewMercedes-BenzCL-ClassUnveiled_11.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/NewMercedes-BenzCL-ClassUnveiled_17.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/NewMercedes-BenzCL-ClassUnveiled_12.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/NewMercedes-BenzCL-ClassUnveiled_18.jpg

The All new Maria Sharapova...........uh I mean Land Rover Freelander 2 :D

Its beautiful :lovethem:

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/AllnewLandRoverLR2Revealed_5.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/AllnewLandRoverLR2Revealed_6.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/AllnewLandRoverLR2Revealed_7.jpg

I was talking about Maria :naughty: the car is crap :toilet:

^^ well, if that's all she can afford .... :D

Minato KU yes, I remember them even in a few American movies. There were American versions of r21 and some other old ones.

I think they should try 'attack' the US again. Especially renault, since they own Nissan and Infinity so they could use their dealerships for a start

most renaults are perhaps too small for the American market but...
Models such as laguna (lagoon) 3.0 V6 or 2.0 turbo

What od our American forumers think, would cars like that be succesful in the US?
In EU renault is in the very top

While Renault no doubt makes a decent car these days, they have been out of this market for so long that I believe that they are going to have some serious difficulties selling their cars when they return to our shores next year.

Renault had a nasty reputation for poor reliability, horrible electrical systems, and serious, even dangerous corrosion problems. Americans have long memories when it comes to cars. And the fact that they bailed out of America back in the 1980's, instead of fixing their problems is going to work against Renault.

I think that the only way they will ever appeal to American car buyers again, is to price the cars at a lower cost than Reanult makes for. And Renault is going to have to optimize their cars to suit American tastes, too. Many European cars, even ones already sold here, are "quirky" to us. And that does not sit well with car buyers.

One last thing, Diamler-Chrysler is bringing the Smart City Coupe early next year. Oddly enough, it's so odd, that it will appeal to a great many people here. Combined with its excellent fuel economy, this oddness will ensure that D-C will sell every one that they can ship over here. I don't think that Renault, not even with the strange looking Megane will be able to make much headway against that sort of competition.

While sales of the Smart have weakened in Europe, their novelty alone will see that every one is sold.

Personally, I plan to buy four for my business. Unless something better comes along. Which I doubt is going to happen any time soon.

It would all depend upon what price point they would bring them in at. Yes, there is still some residual image problems for Renault ("On on on! Ke Car!"), I think they are far enough in the past not to be a huge problem. Certainly the Laguna woiuld do well over here, and I would suspect even the Espace would find a niche. The Megane would also do well (we are getting the Nissan Versa, which is basically the MEgane with a different body shell). But it would be important that they don't try and compete with Volvo and Saab, which would be too tempting to them, I believe.

There would definitely be a market on the East and West coasts, although middle America may not receive them as well.

more info about Alfa 8c coupè & spider: 4.7 litres V8 engine, power 450 HP, torque 470 Nm, maserati made suspensions, 245/30 front tires and 285/30 rear tires both installed on 20" rims.
it's confirmed the limited edition: 250 copies both for coupè and spider version.
price is unknown but it should be about 120.000-130.000 €

the official presentation of this model will be done at paris auto expo.
and this is the spider version.enjoy!!! :cheers:


http://www.italiaspeed.com/2005/events/pebble_beach/8c_spider/101.jpg

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/2421-4.jpg

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/2421-1.jpg

---

the most impressive car, the absolute perfection, the queen of the paris car expo: the ALFA 8C.


click on http://www.8c.alfaromeo.com/

500 Première: March 20th, 2007. Save the date!


Exclusive: the first images of the new Fiat 500 for 500 wants you Community.
After months of waiting, receiving proposals and suggestions from the entire Community that were then examined and elaborated by the Fiat team dedicated to this project, the first images of the new 500 will be unveiled online the day before they will be released to the general public.
It will be an event esclusively for the Community of registered users to the site.
If you have not yet registered to the Community, do it now and you can participate in the online première of the new 500 only on 500 wants you site.
Come back on March 20th, from 12 to 15 and from 21 to 24. You will access a special restricted area where watching the video to discover the new 500; at the end, the video will close without leaving a trace.

Do not miss 500 Première: pass the news to your friend and… save the date!

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:banana: :cheers:


photoshop of the abarth version
http://www.infomotori.com/foto/N/art_18953_2_1.jpg

http://www.infomotori.com/foto/N/art_18953_2_2.jpg

http://www.infomotori.com/foto/N/art_18953_2_3.jpg

http://www.infomotori.com/foto/N/art_18953_2_5.jpg

The Bugatti Brand is owned by Volkswagen.
They just bought the name because they thought it sounds more glamourous than lets say a "Volkswagen Veyron"

Btw: The founder of Bugatti was italian and the factory he founded was located in Molsheim/Germany.
It was located in Alsace which after ww1 went to France.
So you could say that this car is a genuine italian/german car :)

Bugatti is owned by VW true. But Renault bought Nissan which is still Japanese though, VW also bought Seat which is still Spanish, and Aston Martin belongs to Ford, doesn't making it a US maker!
Bugatti was founded by an Italian naturalized immigrant in north-eastern France, in Alsace. Unfortunately, later those nazis bastards stole us Alsace which became German, but it came back to us after the war ended :) !
Today the Veyron is named after a French race driver, is produced in France, Bugatti's headquarters are in France.

Anyway, I give you France's finest:

Venturi Fetish - The World's only full eletric sports car: 0 to 100 km/h in 4.5 seconds
http://www.diseno-art.com/images/venturi_fetish.jpg

Peugeot 908rc. Unfortunately it won't be commercialized but it announces the future Peugeot's top notch models.
http://www.linternaute.com/auto/salons-mondial/mondial-paris/06/diaporama/concepts-cars/images/5-peugeot-908rc.jpg

http://www.autodeclics.com/blog_mondial_automobile/upload/PIC_0009.JPG

Citroën C6
http://www.caradisiac.com/media/images/le_mag/mag251/citroen-c6-05big.jpg

http://storm.tocmp.com/citroen/c6/07.jpg

http://www.vehicle-engineer.com/Sections/News/Reviews/citroen-c6-03-w.jpg

Mégane RS 250hp
http://loeek.free.fr/page2/Paris-cars/Megane%20Rs.jpg

http://www.leblogauto.com/images/10734_bd_ren2005megane.jpg

I like that Fiat 500...looks so small but powerful:lol:

NEW MASERATI GRANTURISMO

pure design on movement
http://www.granturismoisback.com/index.html?lang=en
http://www.italiaspeed.com/2007/motor_shows/geneva/maserati/granturismo/0603.html

http://www.italiaspeed.com/2007/motor_shows/geneva/maserati/granturismo/gallery_4/113.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/maserati-granturismo/big_maser_front.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/maserati-granturismo/big_maser_back.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/maserati-granturismo/big_maser_interior.jpg

http://www.italiaspeed.com/2007/motor_shows/geneva/maserati/granturismo/gallery_4/103.jpg



GRANDE PUNTO ABARTH
from 150 to 180 HP
http://www.italiaspeed.com/2007/motor_shows/geneva/preview/abarth/intro.html

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/5196/bigfiatgrandepuntoabartpm4.jpg

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/4185/bigfiatgrandepuntoabartio3.jpg

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/8851/bigfiatgrandepuntoabarthc1.jpg

http://www.italiaspeed.com/2007/motor_shows/geneva/abarth/gallery_geneva_1/115.jpg

http://www.italiaspeed.com/2007/motor_shows/geneva/abarth/gallery_geneva_2/102.jpg



BLACK ALFA ROMEO 8C COMPETIZIONE

http://www.italiaspeed.com/2007/motor_shows/geneva/alfa_romeo/8c/gallery_geneva/123.jpg

http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/1041/big8cnera01co1.jpg

http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/850/big8cnera04yo8.jpg

this is special :cheers:
http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/9462/big8cnera12xe3.jpg


NEW FIAT BRAVO: AGAINST THE GOLF...

http://www.italiaspeed.com/new_models/2007/fiat/bravo/introduction.html

http://www.italiaspeed.com/new_models/2007/fiat/bravo/gallery/115.jpg

http://www.italiaspeed.com/new_models/2007/fiat/bravo/gallery/116.jpg

http://www.italiaspeed.com/new_models/2007/fiat/bravo/gallery/110.jpg

http://www.italiaspeed.com/new_models/2007/fiat/bravo/gallery/113.jpg

http://www.italiaspeed.com/new_models/2007/fiat/bravo/gallery/107.jpg

http://www.italiaspeed.com/new_models/2007/fiat/bravo/gallery/117.jpg


ALFA 159 TI
http://www.italiaspeed.com/2007/motor_shows/geneva/alfa_romeo/ti/1003.html

http://www.italiaspeed.com/2007/motor_shows/geneva/preview/alfa_romeo/customisation/gallery/101.jpg

http://www.italiaspeed.com/2007/motor_shows/geneva/preview/alfa_romeo/customisation/gallery/102.jpg

http://www.italiaspeed.com/2007/motor_shows/geneva/preview/alfa_romeo/customisation/gallery/103.jpg

http://www.italiaspeed.com/2007/motor_shows/geneva/preview/alfa_romeo/customisation/gallery/104.jpg

Alot of you might like my newish site. There are lots of mint cars on it. Have a look in the other cars section for some crazy cars. There's one also a car called the Barabus TKR which is ment to be faster than the Bugatti Veyron. There are some pictures and specs.

http://forum.reviewthatcar.com

Sergio Marchionne is simply a genius! :banana:

Alfa 8C Competizione is incredible!!!

Alot of you might like my newish site. There are lots of mint cars on it. Have a look in the other cars section for some crazy cars. There's one also a car called the Barabus TKR which is ment to be faster than the Bugatti Veyron. There are some pictures and specs.

http://forum.reviewthatcar.com

Meh, the TKR reminds me of a beefed up TVR/Noble hybrid. The Veyron has classsss.

Anyway, the new Alfas are amazing, can't wait for them to come to the states!

Alfa Brera

http://www.cwwcardesign.com/news/alfa_brera_1.jpg

http://www.auto-motor.at/Auto/Autos-Neuwagen/Automarken-Automodelle-Neuigkeiten/Alfa-Romeo-News/Alfa-Brera/Alfa-Brera-1_high.jpg

Alfa Spider

http://www.mitoalfaromeo.com/html/images/brera/art_16321_2_brera_03_bis.jpg

http://www.centralauto.it/cgi-bin/news_pic/24.jpg

Alfa GT

http://www.alfaromeo.de/ALFAROMEO_GERMANY/uploads/1030/1073901122/20040211/03.AlfaGT_Big_1.jpg

Alfa 8C

http://www.offertasuinternet.com/img_auto/alfa_romeo_8c_competizione.jpg

Alfa 159

http://www.mitoalfaromeo.com/html/images/159/alfa_159_8.JPG

Alfa 159 Sportwagon

http://www.autonuove.it/uploaded_images/159swpost-728477.jpg

The Fiat Punto continues to enjoy sales success and was Europe’s best selling new car in February 2007 with 32,059 units sold. The Peugeot 207 is second place with 30,345 units sold and the Opel/Vauxhall Corsa has now dropped to third place with 28,541 units sold. The Renault Clio, Ford Focus, Opel/Vauxhall Astra, VW Golf, Ford Fiesta, Fiat Panda and VW Passat complete the top ten rankings.

:banana: :banana:

http://www.jato.com/imageroot/top10preformingmodels_feb07.gif

NEW FIAT 500

video:

http://213.215.221.16/Fiat_500_Premiere/500_Premiere_full_ENG.swf

http://www.infomotori.com/foto/N/art_4762_3_40.jpg

http://www.infomotori.com/foto/N/art_4762_3_21.jpg

http://www.infomotori.com/foto/N/art_4762_3_50.jpg

http://www.infomotori.com/foto/N/art_4762_3_3.jpg

http://www.infomotori.com/foto/N/art_4762_3_60.jpg

Some good news guys!
Lancia Fulvia will go to regular production!
http://img.interia.pl/motoryzacja/nimg/Nowa_fulvia_produkcji_1524851.JPG

Some photos from polish subforum. Photos put there: david_silesia

Photos of Fiat 500 from ...poilsh roads:)

http://images20.fotosik.pl/132/ab0d7638c6a72617.jpg

http://images20.fotosik.pl/132/5032ac940068ccaa.jpg

The new Fiat 500!

On July 4, 1957, in Turin, Fiat presented the Nuova Fiat 500, a real icon of our times, with which Fiat concluded a revival that had begun straight after the Second World War. On July 4, 2007, exactly 50 years later, again in Turin, Fiat will present the new Fiat 500 which will be marketed immediately after the launch. And the new car will conclude an equally important cycle of revival for Fiat Automobiles SpA.

Developed by the Fiat Style Centre and manufactured in the plant in Tychy (Poland), the new 500 is a 3-door model with very compact measurements: it is 355 cm long, 165 cm wide, 149 cm tall and has a wheelbase of 230 cm. The car is extremely entertaining to drive, due to its three engines: a 75 bhp 1.3 16v Multijet turbodiesel unit and two petrol engines, the 69 bhp 1.2 8v and the 100 bhp 1.4 16v, all of which are available with five or six speed mechanical gearboxes.

The model confirms Fiat Automobiles SpA’s undisputed leadership in this category - a result of its extraordinary heritage of technical, design and human experience accumulated in over a century - and it takes a quality leap forward in terms of comfort and safety, technology and equipment for this segment. The new 500 is the most up-to-date solution for the motorist who ‘enjoys’ his car in complete freedom, appreciates it for day-to-day use, but also wishes to drive a car that is entertaining and practical, environmentally-friendly and accessible, but also appealing and full of fun.

Turin, March 21, 2007

http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/fiat-500-foto-ufficiali/big_fiat_500_uff_02.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/fiat-500-foto-ufficiali/big_fiat_500_uff_04.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/fiat-500-foto-ufficiali/big_fiat_500_uff_03.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/fiat-500-foto-ufficiali/big_fiat_500_uff_01.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/fiat-500-foto-ufficiali/big_fiat_500_uff_05.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/fiat-500-foto-ufficiali/big_fiat_500_uff_06.jpg

Peugeot 908rc. Unfortunately it won't be commercialized but it announces the future Peugeot's top notch models.

Citroën C6

Mégane RS 250hp


Thare are not the latest French cars... ;)

Renault Twingo
http://www.salon-auto.ch/multimedia/images/img_traitees/2007/03/twingo_3_17_06_enimages_big.jpg
http://www.salon-auto.ch/multimedia/images/img_traitees/2007/03/twingo_2_17_06_enimages_big.jpg
http://www.salon-auto.ch/multimedia/images/img_traitees/2007/03/twingo_1_17_06_enimages_big.jpg

Renault Clio Sedan & SW
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/707/designrenault0050pq.jpg


Peugeot 4007 :(:
http://www.salon-auto.ch/multimedia/images/img_traitees/2007/01/peugeot_4007_1_enimages_big.jpg
http://www.salon-auto.ch/multimedia/images/img_traitees/2007/03/peugeot_4007_3_13_6_enimages_big.jpg
http://www.salon-auto.ch/multimedia/images/img_traitees/2007/03/peugeot_4007_2_13_6_enimages_big.jpg
http://www.salon-auto.ch/multimedia/images/img_traitees/2007/03/peugeot_4007_1_13_6_enimages_big.jpg


Citroen C-Crosser:
http://www.salon-auto.ch/multimedia/images/img_traitees/2007/01/1150_1_enimages_big.jpg
http://www.salon-auto.ch/multimedia/images/img_traitees/2007/03/citroen_c_crosser_03_13_07_enimages_big.jpg
http://www.salon-auto.ch/multimedia/images/img_traitees/2007/03/citroen_c_crosser_02_13_07_enimages_big.jpg
http://www.salon-auto.ch/multimedia/images/img_traitees/2007/03/citroen_c_crosser_01_13_07_enimages_big.jpg

also frenches like the new 500
http://news.caradisiac.com/La-Fiat-500-a-l-heure-185



who wants a Cooper now? :banana: :cheers:

http://www.autocarmag.com/contentImages/NonCar/213778342.jpg

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_431/car_photo_215887_12.jpg

Polish car: Leopard


http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/4/4023/z4023704X.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/9/4024/z4024439X.jpg

Some good news guys!
Lancia Fulvia will go to regular production!

unfortunately, I have read that it won't be retro like the concept version

some many awesome car designs that i will never get to see :( North America gets a pretty poor selection compared to other parts of the world...

^ I wouldn't rule that out 100%.

Here are the newest cars/trucks/SUV's/CUV's that are out or coming out here in the states. Lots of cool stuff:

2008 Audi A5
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/7-audi-a5.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/2-audi-a5.jpg

2008 Audi R8
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/55-2008-audi-r8.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/74-2008-audi-r8.jpg

2008 BMW M3
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/5-2009-bmw-m3.jpg

2008 Buick LaCrosse Super
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/12-2008-buick-lacrosse-super.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/6-2008-buick-lacrosse-super.jpg

2008 Buick Lucerne Super
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/9-2008-buick-lucerne-super.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/6-2008-buick-lucerne-super.jpg

2008 Buick Enclave
http://www.carbodydesign.com/archive/2006/01/16-buick-enclave-concept/Buick%20Enclave%20Concept%205-lg.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/41-2008-buick-enclave.jpg

2008 Cadillac STS
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/2-2008-cadillac-sts.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/4-2008-cadillac-sts.jpg

2008 Cadillac CTS
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/20-2008-cadillac-cts.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/30-2008-cadillac-cts.jpg

2007 Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/7-2007-gmc-sierra-chevrolet-silverado.jpg

2008 Chevrolet Equinox Sport
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/1-2008-chevrolet-equinox-sport.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/7-2008-chevrolet-equinox-sport.jpg

2008 Chevy Malibu
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/5-2008-chevrolet-malibu.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/15-2008-chevrolet-malibu.jpg

2008 Chrysler Town & Country
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/19-2008-chrysler-town-country-voyager.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/2-2008-chrysler-town-country-voyager.jpg

2008 Chrysler Seabring
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/10-jun21-sebring.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/5-jun21-sebring.jpg

2007 Chrysler Aspen
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/1-2006-2007-chrysler-aspen.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/7-2006-2007-chrysler-aspen.jpg

2008 Dodge Demon concept
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/7-dodge-demon-concept.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/11-dodge-demon-concept.jpg

2008 Dodge Dakota
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/18-2008-dodge-dakota.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/6-2008-dodge-dakota.jpg

2008 Dodge Grand Caravan
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/3-2008-dodge-grand-caravan.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/11-2008-dodge-grand-caravan.jpg

2009 Ford Flex
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/24-2009-ford-flex.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/27-2009-ford-flex.jpg

2008 Ford Mustang Shelby Cobra GT500KR
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/1-2008-ford-mustang-shelby-cobra-gt500kr.jpg

2008 Ford Taurus X
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/5-2008-ford-taurus-x.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/10-2008-ford-taurus-x.jpg

2008 Ford Taurus
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/12-2008-ford-taurus.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/23-2008-ford-taurus.jpg

2008 Ford Focus
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/1-2008-ford-focus.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/10-2008-ford-focus.jpg

Ford Interceptor Concept (this needs to be built)
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/6-ford-interceptor-concept.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/2-ford-interceptor-concept.jpg

2008 Ford Escape
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/8-2008-ford-escape.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/18-2008-ford-escape.jpg

2008 Ford Super Duty (F-250, F-350, F-450)
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/10-2008-ford-super-duty-f-250-350-450.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/13-2008-ford-super-duty-f-250-350-450.jpg

2007 Ford Edge
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/ford_edge_cuv_2007_4.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/ford_edge_cuv_2007_12.jpg

2007 GMC Acadia
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/1-2007-gmc-acadia.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/5-2007-gmc-acadia.jpg

2008 Honda Accord Coupe Concept
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/8-2008-honda-accord-coupe-concept.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/9-2008-honda-accord-coupe-concept.jpg

2007 Honda Civic sI Sedan
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/1-2007-honda-civic-si-sedan-production.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/15-2007-honda-civic-si-sedan-production.jpg

Hyundai Genesis Concept
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/10-hyundai-genesis-concept.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/11-hyundai-genesis-concept.jpg

Hyundai Veracruz
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/12-2007-hyundai-veracruz.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/6-2007-hyundai-veracruz.jpg

2007 Hyundai Tiburon
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/13-2007-hyundai-tiburon.jpg

Infinity EX Concept
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/1-infiniti-ex-concept.jpg

2008 Infinity G37
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/1-2008-infiniti-g37-coupe.jpg

2008 Jaguar XKR Portfolio
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/13-jaguar-xkr-portfolio.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/23-jaguar-xkr-portfolio.jpg

2008 Jaguar XJ
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/4-2008-jaguar-xj.jpg

Jaguar C-XF Concept
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/23-jaguar-c-xf-concept-car.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/18-jaguar-c-xf-concept-car.jpg

2008 Jeep Liberty
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/28-2008-jeep-liberty.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/7-2008-jeep-liberty.jpg

2007 Jeep Wrangler
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/1-2007-jeep-wrangler.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/2007-jeep-wrangler-four-five-door-4dr-6.jpg

2007 Jeep Patriot
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/5-2007-jeep-patriot.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/3-2007-jeep-patriot.jpg

2007 Jeep Compass
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/2-2007-jeep-compass.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/7-2007-jeep-compass.jpg

2008 Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/4-lamborghini-gallardo-superleggera.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/5-lamborghini-gallardo-superleggera.jpg

2008 Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 Roadster
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/1-lamborghini-murcielago-lp640-roadster.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/6-lamborghini-murcielago-lp640-roadster.jpg

2008 Lamborghini Gallardo Nera
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/1-lamborghini-gallardo-nera-new.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/4-lamborghini-gallardo-nera-new.jpg

Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 Versace
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/2-lamborghini-murcielago-lp640-versace.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/3-lamborghini-murcielago-lp640-versace.jpg

2008 Lexus LX570
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/17-2008-lexus-lx-570.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/21-2008-lexus-lx-570.jpg

2008 Lexus IS-F
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/6-2008-lexus-is-f.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/2-2008-lexus-is-f.jpg

2007 Lexus LS460
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/lexus_ls_460_460_2007_2.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/lexus_ls_460_460_2007_13.jpg

Lincoln MKR Concept
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/6-lincoln-mkr-concept-3.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/10-lincoln-mkr-concept-3.jpg

2007 Lincoln MKX
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/lincoln_mkx_cuv_2007_8.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/lincoln_mkx_cuv_2007_4.jpg

2008 Lincoln MKS
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/lincoln_mks_2007_2008_1.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/lincoln_mks_2007_2008_8.jpg

2008 Maserati GranTurismo
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/1-2008-maserati-granturismo.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/4-2008-maserati-granturismo.jpg

2008 Mazda2
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/11-2007-2008-mazda2.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/10-2007-2008-mazda2.jpg

2008 Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/2-2008-mercedes-benz-clk-63-amg-black-series.jpg

2008 Mercedes-Benz CL65 AMG
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/2-2008-mercedes-benz-cl-65-amg.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/6-2008-mercedes-benz-cl-65-amg.jpg

2008 Mercedes C-Class
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/11-2008-mercedes-c-class.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/8-2008-mercedes-c-class.jpg

S-Class convertible: Mercedes Ocean Drive Concept
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/1-mercedes-ocean-drive-concept-s-class-convertible.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/2-mercedes-ocean-drive-concept-s-class-convertible.jpg

2007 Mercedes-Benz S 63 AMG
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/1-2007-mercedes-s63-s-63-amg.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/5-2007-mercedes-s63-s-63-amg.jpg

2007 Mercedes CL 63 AMG
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/3-2007-mercedes-cl-63-cl63-amg.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/9-2007-mercedes-cl-63-cl63-amg.jpg

2007 Mercedes-Benz SLR 722 Edition
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/20-2007-mercedes-benz-slr-mclaren-722-edition-more.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/5-2007-mercedes-benz-slr-mclaren-722-edition-more.jpg

2008 Mercury Sable
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/5-2008-mercury-sable.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/7-2008-mercury-sable.jpg

2008 Nissan Altima Coupe
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/3-2008-nissan-altima-coupe.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/4-2008-nissan-altima-coupe.jpg

2008 Nissan Rouge
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/2-2008-nissan-rogue.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/6-2008-nissan-rogue.jpg

2008 Nissan Altima
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/6-2007-nissan-altima-sedan.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/13-2007-nissan-altima-sedan.jpg

2008 Nissan Sentra
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/1-2007-nissan-sentra.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/6-2007-nissan-sentra.jpg

2008 Pontiac G8
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/9-2008-pontiac-g8.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/3-2008-pontiac-g8.jpg

2007 Porsche Cayenne
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/6-2008-porsche-cayenne.jpg

2008 Rolls-Royce Phantom Drophead Coupe
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/14-rolls-royce-phantom-drophead-coupe.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/8-rolls-royce-phantom-drophead-coupe.jpg

2008 Saturn Astra
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/3-2008-saturn-astra.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/13-2008-saturn-astra.jpg

2008 Saturn Vue
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/2-2008-saturn-vue.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/3-2008-saturn-vue.jpg


2008 Saturn Vue Red Line
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/2-2008-saturn-vue-red-line.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/1-2008-saturn-vue-red-line.jpg

2007 Saturn Outlook
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/1-2007-saturn-outlook-suv.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/3-2007-saturn-outlook-suv.jpg

2007 Saturn Sky Red Line
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/2-2007-saturn-sky-redline.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/8-2007-saturn-sky-redline.jpg

2008 Scion xB
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/1-2008-scion-xb.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/10-2008-scion-xb.jpg

2008 Scion xD
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/4-2008-scion-xd.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/2-2008-scion-xd.jpg

2008 Subaru Impreza WRX
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/1-2008-subaru-impreza-wrx-sedan.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/2-2008-subaru-impreza-wrx-sedan.jpg

2008 Subaru Tribeca
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/1-2008-subaru-tribeca.jpg

2008 Toyota Highlander
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/20-2008-toyota-highlander-hybrid.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/26-2008-toyota-highlander-hybrid.jpg

2008 Toyota Tundra
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/1-2007-toyota-tundra-crewmax.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/toyota_tundra_2007_14.jpg

2007 VW Touraeg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/4-2007-volkswagen-touareg-full.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/2-2007-volkswagen-touareg-full.jpg

VW Tiguan concept
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/2-volkswagen-tiguan-concept.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/5-volkswagen-tiguan-concept.jpg

2007 VW R32
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/1-2008-volkswagen-r32.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/2-2008-volkswagen-r32.jpg

2008 Volvo S40
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/5-2008-volvo-s40.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/11-2008-volvo-s40-v50.jpg

2007 Volvo C30
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/2-2007-volvo-c30-production.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/8-2007-volvo-c30-production.jpg

I probably missed a few models but this is roughly what headed here.

BMW 335i Convertible
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/07/335iconv07_011600.jpg
http://www.bmw2002.co.uk/images/news/3%20Series%20HT%2003.jpg
http://www.zcars.com.au/userimages/user1093_1161843393.jpg

Well America compared with other countries do have a poorer selection of cars. There are quite a few car brands that we dont have it here like Alfa Romeo, Citroen, Peugeot, Laraki, Renault, Fiat, Seat, Skoda,etc.

American cars in America are so boring and the interior is so disappointing. I wonder why they don't import these here. Check out these American cars sold in China:

Park Avenue
http://images5a.worldcarfans.com/news/2070412.001/2070412.001.mini1L.jpg

http://images5a.worldcarfans.com/news/2070412.001/2070412.001.mini2L.jpg

http://images5a.worldcarfans.com/news/2070412.001/2070412.001.mini4L.jpg

http://images5a.worldcarfans.com/news/2070412.001/2070412.001.mini5L.jpg

http://images5a.worldcarfans.com/news/2070412.001/2070412.001.mini3L.jpg

http://images5a.worldcarfans.com/news/2070412.001/2070412.001.mini6L.jpg

Lacrosse
http://news.windingroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/07-buick-lacrosse-china-600.jpg

http://news.windingroad.com/photo-gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=395&g2_serialNumber=2

http://news.windingroad.com/photo-gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=379&g2_serialNumber=2

http://news.windingroad.com/photo-gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=407&g2_serialNumber=2

American cars in America are so boring and the interior is so disappointing. I wonder why they don't import these here. Check out these American cars sold in China:

Park Avenue
http://images5a.worldcarfans.com/news/2070412.001/2070412.001.mini1L.jpg

http://images5a.worldcarfans.com/news/2070412.001/2070412.001.mini2L.jpg

http://images5a.worldcarfans.com/news/2070412.001/2070412.001.mini4L.jpg

http://images5a.worldcarfans.com/news/2070412.001/2070412.001.mini5L.jpg

http://images5a.worldcarfans.com/news/2070412.001/2070412.001.mini3L.jpg

http://images5a.worldcarfans.com/news/2070412.001/2070412.001.mini6L.jpg

Lacrosse
http://news.windingroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/07-buick-lacrosse-china-600.jpg

http://news.windingroad.com/photo-gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=395&g2_serialNumber=2

http://news.windingroad.com/photo-gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=379&g2_serialNumber=2

http://news.windingroad.com/photo-gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=407&g2_serialNumber=2

that park avenue is Holden Statesman.
Buick appeals to Chinese buyers because there are so many newly rich who have no taste for cars, only want big rooms, grandeur looks, and luxurious interiors. Buick offers the same things in America too, it's just customers in America who do not buy into those themes anymore. (those who still do will opt for an European brand).
Buick sells well in China because you are essentially paying less for more, more features and interior room that is, not horsepower, their driving experience sucks.
for the price of Park Avenue you can buy A4 (3.2 FSI) and BMW 3 in China, they are obviously better driving machines, but the CEOs and government chiefs are not going to buy them because there is barely any space in the rear seat for their big belly! Buick makes she shittest cars ever yet it's so big in China this is so sad.

Some cars that will go on sale in China soon:

SAIC Roewe 750
http://www.chinacartimes.com/wp-content/p1040725.JPG
http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2006/10/roewe_750.jpg
http://www.diariomotor.com/imagenes/roewe_750_oficial_05.jpg

Chery A1
http://www.autoblog.com/media/2006/11/autoblog_chery_a1dsc00429.jpg

Ford S-MAX
http://www.dpccars.com/photos/02-17-06-01-Ford-S-Max.jpg

Nissan Livina
http://image2.sina.com.cn/qc/photo/dfrclivina/U121P33T148D169575F2100DT20070418114219.jpg
http://image2.sina.com.cn/qc/photo/dfrclivina/U121P33T148D167943F2100DT20070408195238.jpg
http://image2.sina.com.cn/qc/photo/dfrclivina/U121P33T148D167941F2100DT20070408195235.jpg

THE INFINITI DEBUTS IN CHINA THIS MONTH

G35 Sedan/G37 Coupe/FX 45 SUV
www.infiniti.com.cn

I don't think HK has an official distributor for Nissan Skyline, nor does the Infiniti division sell any cars in HK. Too bad.

Nissan Skyline (aka Infiniti G35/37) imports from Japan are very expensive.

It seems as though China took the American Buick Lacrosse and gave it Nissan Altima tail lights.

Was there something going on between Volkswagen and Saturn. This saturn interior looks very volkswagenish, the center dash area, the window buttons, the gauge.

http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/3-2007-saturn-outlook-suv.jpg

Lol? Germany invented the car.
Dont forget that the VW beetle was already mass-produced before ww2.

Ha, I didn't really see anyone really dispute this statement [although it was made a long time ago...], the Type I Volkswagen Beetle went into mass-production in the 1930s. The Ford Model-T went into mass production in 1908 and was discontinued in 1927 -- then replaced by other models. So which nation had the mass-produced auto first? You do the math.

Mercedes, Autounion, BMW were all large corporations before ww2.

As were Ford, Chevrolet, Chrysler, etc...

Spyker c12 laturbie
http://www.leblogauto.com/images/cf002299_lowres.jpg
Spyker c8 spider
http://carsmedia.ign.com/cars/image/article/702/702495/tdu-spyker-20060420044016404.jpg
Spyker c8 Laviolette
http://www.fast-cars.ch/images/Spyker/Spyker_C8_Laviolette_border_2.jpg
Spyker c8 Double 12 s
http://www.fast-cars.ch/images/Spyker/Spyker_C8_Double_12_S_border_1.jpg
Spyker c12 Zagato
http://www.racexpress.nl/imgitems/article/2007/03/spykerzagato_auto.jpg
Spyker d12 Peking to Paris
http://forum.avtoindex.com/foto/data/media/196/spyker_d12_peking-paris_2.jpg
Donkervoort d8
http://www.quotenet.nl/2004/05/06/donkervoort.jpg
Donkervoort d8 gt
http://www.autoblog.com/media/2006/12/donkervoort.jpg

Those Spykers are abonibously hideous.

i heard that a lot of chinese cars are knock offs of American/Japanese ones.

and i even did see a car by i think its called Cherry A1 that really resembeled the Tata Indica

i heard that a lot of chinese cars are knock offs of American/Japanese ones.

and i even did see a car by i think its called Cherry A1 that really resembeled the Tata Indica


I don't think much resemblance here to call it a rip-off. In fact they are quite different.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/kbboy101/General/tataindica.gif
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/kbboy101/General/autoblog_chery_a1dsc00429.jpg

Chery A1 has way better design than Indica.
http://byfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pjzF2-RYhxRWfMx-25Be358xtQngyjJ3O-LCPSWprjxXhiVdcNLxXEpSsJg0LbjPULqOB8VtCk1DqhRgMJr34rkJ2qEzKH0hBK61O7FIU9IuQ230PIVVOfg
http://byfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pjzF2-RYhxRWfMx-25Be358xtQngyjJ3OoOdkdermODWTAZyQ-EC3uPHXiAT_2XCGeAyJto1RQgYAq1hu055WJZQEJ54och673hib0untmBEhW7BfdTAFdA
http://byfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pjzF2-RYhxRWfMx-25Be358xtQngyjJ3O5wPMgmya8rPvIqLOXxJz-ab9nzfCNhE-aCSIOLf2I5ZDmisp99Imw2rW3Zx-hNti6rPPPijlur471SUCnNXJag

im not saying its better or worse

im just saying that after what i heard it looked really similar in the pic and i couldnt see the rear end, so i wasnt sure

i heard the rip off thing from another forum on www.offtopic.com only thing is that was a huge thread and im way to lazy to copy past the whole thing

I dont think Bertone is stupid enough to copy Indica design.

The Indica is BLAND...

its a working class/ lower middle class car

plus that pic is of the version a few years back

The future Renault Laguna coupé. It is due to be available by September 2007, but this design has not been officially confirmed yet:
http://up.autotitre.com/forum/up/9de26dc45a.jpg

The Peugeot 207CC made its debut a few weeks ago:
http://www.leblogauto.com/wp-content/uploads/Raphael_Caplan/207EPURE.jpg

Future Peugeot 608 waited for 2008 is expected to look like this:
http://www.motorintro.com/novedades/_imagesnovedades2005/33_novedades%20agosto/607_2.jpg

its a working class/ lower middle class car

plus that pic is of the version a few years back

Is there an updated version?

Also, what country is Indica? It would be a very nice working class car, simple, no frills. reminds me of the Fiat Panda.

its indian
http://www.allcarpictures.com/pictures/tata/indica-v2/tata-indica-v2.jpg

http://www.indiainfoline.com/nl/admn/newsletter/pics/130106Tata%20Indica%20Silhouette.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/54/183960826_068db0d661.jpg

TATA the makers suped it up: the last two are concepts that are high performanced i thin 0-100 kmph in 4.5 secs

right now Tata sells it in India obv. but also to S. Africa(same name) and Europe as Rover CityRover

its twin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tata_Indigo

^^ ahh, haha, I remember Rover imported Tata Indicas as CityRovers a few years back

^^ ahh, haha, I remember Rover imported Tata Indicas as CityRovers a few years back
yeh i dont think that worked out to well lol

but right now India exports a lotta cars to Eurpoe, South Africa, and now they are planning on i think like late 07 08/09 release of the SUV Scorpio by Mahindra & Mahindra to USA, it is already on european and south african roads

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:G3Vra9c4YoPGpM:http://vne-resource.iol.co.za/30/picdb/article0/5/c/80121

http://img.alibaba.com/photo/10920151/Mahindra_Scorpio_SUV_Car.jpg

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6798909760753667666&q=scorpio+mahindra&hl=en






QKafObcBsMo




how it drives:
GjyGqjcc92Q

and back to indica (ignore dude talking)
1VCOjgbyVQ8&NR=1

btw these are not the only new ones in india, hit up the indian auto thread at
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=308544

Three Chery cars will go on sale in China this year:
Chery A1 (First quarter, already posted)

Chery A3(third quarter)
http://auto.lenta.ru/l/photo/2006/11/20/china/09.jpg
http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/11/1128_autochina/image/a32.jpg
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006-11/20/xinsrc_53211032014168901910014.jpg

Chery A6(fourth quarter)
http://www.leblogauto.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/yoann/home.jpg
http://www.leblogauto.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/yoann/439085_DSC_1307.jpg

Chery was the no.1 seller in China for the month of March. Unlike Japanese and Korean carmakers who dominate their home market through market protection and government subsidies, Chery achieved this through open competition with more established foreign automakers. This says something about the competitiveness of Chery and the quality of its products. In the other words, Chinese cusomters have a choice, and they chose Chery.

Chery was the no.1 seller in China for the month of March. Unlike Japanese and Korean carmakers who dominate their home market through market protection and government subsidies, Chery achieved this through open competition with more established foreign automakers.

I don't know where you get your information but Japan has no governmental protection nor subsidiaries for auto manufacturers.
Why should they, they are the most successful on the globe.
Get you facts straight before posting.

what is the tariff charged on a BMW in Japan?
In Japan and Korea, the common people buy local cars, the rich people buy European cars, isn't that true?
Why is that? If the Japanese cars so good, why their rich only like BMW and Audi?

what is the tariff charged on a BMW in Japan?
In Japan and Korea, the common people buy local cars, the rich people buy European cars, isn't that true?
Why is that? If the Japanese cars so good, why their rich only like BMW and Audi?

The answer, there are no tariffs charged on BMWs nor on Audis, MBs or any other imported cars.
As I said before get your facts straight.
It is same reason as it is within your country, why do the super rich of your nation prefer MB, BMW, RR and other sepcialty cars, to show off their status.

Even without Japan, it's hard to deny Japanese manufacturer's penetration in the US and, to a lesser extent, in Europe, as well as their omnipresence around the world.

Hell, Toyota had a war named after them in Africa, because their trucks were famous for their durability.

Emerging automakers are something I'm keeping an eye on... the Tatas and Cherys both look like good cars

what is the tariff charged on a BMW in Japan?
In Japan and Korea, the common people buy local cars, the rich people buy European cars, isn't that true?
Why is that? If the Japanese cars so good, why their rich only like BMW and Audi?

Wrong, the wealty Japanese don't buy BMWs in priority. The most common executive cars are:
Toyota Celsior:
http://www.auto.vl.ru/images/4483/5271/16144.jpg

Toyota Crown:
http://www.asahi.com/car/tokyo2003/photo/images/toyota_crownconcept.jpg

Lexus LS:this is real luxury compared to the 2 above!
http://www.dn.no/multimedia/archive/00095/LB-Lexus_LS_460_95370i.jpg

Lexus GS:
http://www.roadfly.org/magazine/galleries/article_photos_2005/photos/photos-02-2005/2005-Lexus-GS-300-safety-pic-17-4887764.jpg

lol dont lie, they dont even sell Lexus in Japan.

lol dont lie, they dont even sell Lexus in Japan.

Huh????:lol:
Lexus is Toyota's exclusive luxury brand.
They launched couple of years ago, but most of the car that where sold under the brand were sold by different names here in Japan.

Here is a link to their site.
http://lexus.jp/

what is the tariff charged on a BMW in Japan?

From the joint report (http://www.nira.go.jp/newse/paper/joint4/report.html) by Chinese, Japanese, and Korean official reserch centers; :)


Tariff Rates of Automobiles in China, Japan, and Korea (2003)

--Passenger cars; Trucks; Buses; Parts
China (2003) : 39.1; 28.2; 39.1; 15.0
China (2006) : 25.0; 21.3; 22.0; 10.3
Japan : 0; 0; 0; 0
Korea : 8; 9.6; 10; 8

Wrong, the wealty Japanese don't buy BMWs in
Toyota Crown:
http://www.asahi.com/car/tokyo2003/photo/images/toyota_crownconcept.jpg


I love the Toyota Crown but I dislike the Toyota Crown Confort. :)

lol dont lie, they dont even sell Lexus in Japan.

What? Lexus is a Japanese maker. Toyota launched it in the 80's, and it has been booming for a decade in both the USA and Japan. Actually many Lexus were relabeled high-class Toyotas, but now they make specific cars (except the LS which is a Celsior).

"I love the Toyota Crown but I dislike the Toyota Crown Confort" Why?

The Toyota "Crown" is a lexus over here in the UK. One of their most expensive models too I think.

The Toyota "Crown" is a lexus over here in the UK. One of their most expensive models too I think.

I thought Toyota didn't import "Crowns" positioning them as a domestic only model.
I might be wrong.

They sell Toyota Crowns in China but no one buys them, too overpriced, if they want it they will just buy Lexus instead.

Toyota Crowns are essentially Avalons. Same car, but still, nobody buys them in North America either.

"I love the Toyota Crown but I dislike the Toyota Crown Confort" Why?

Crown Comforts are Taxis, at least in Hong Kong

"I love the Toyota Crown but I dislike the Toyota Crown Confort" Why?

Confort are really ugly
http://sebintokyo.free.fr/images/taxi1.jpg

Toyota Crown are not sell in U.K even in Lexus.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/Toyota-CROWN-12th-generation01.jpg

Toyota Crown Majesta
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Toyota_Crown_Majesta_02.jpg/800px-

Toyota Crown Police car
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Japanese_TOYOTA_CROWN_GRS180_police_car.jpg/800px-Japanese_TOYOTA_CROWN_GRS180_police_car.jpg

:)

Perhaps my mistake, I was thinking of the LS430 which more like the celisor than the crown.

http://img.netcarshow.com/Lexus-LS430_2004_1024x768_wallpaper_03.jpg

Perhaps my mistake, I was thinking of the LS430 which more like the celisor than the crown.

http://img.netcarshow.com/Lexus-LS430_2004_1024x768_wallpaper_03.jpg

Yeah, that's what I wrote on the previous page: Lexus LS is just a relabeled Celsior.

As for me I don't like Toyotas very much. When it comes to Japanese executive cars, I prefer the Nissan Fuga:
http://www.edmunds.com/media/2003/tokyo/nissan.fuga/nissan.fuga.f34.500.jpg

http://www.edmunds.com/media/2003/tokyo/nissan.fuga/nissan.fuga.r34.500.jpg

^^ that's badged as the Infiniti G in the US.

The sedan version is quite ugly, but the coupe is nice!

And don't forget Nissan Skyline :)

http://www.zclubhungary.hu/image/Skyline/Twelve/09.jpg

^^ that's badged as the Infiniti G in the US.

The sedan version is quite ugly, but the coupe is nice!

M, not G.
G is Nissan Skyline.

And don't forget Nissan Skyline :)

http://www.zclubhungary.hu/image/Skyline/Twelve/09.jpg
This car doesn't deserve to be called a Skyline:ohno:

So what did you expect? A 300 meter high car ;)

From the joint report (http://www.nira.go.jp/newse/paper/joint4/report.html) by Chinese, Japanese, and Korean official reserch centers; :)


Tariff Rates of Automobiles in China, Japan, and Korea (2003)

--Passenger cars; Trucks; Buses; Parts
China (2003) : 39.1; 28.2; 39.1; 15.0
China (2006) : 25.0; 21.3; 22.0; 10.3
Japan : 0; 0; 0; 0
Korea : 8; 9.6; 10; 8

so the Chinese DO doing better....but I still wait another four/five years before I try one of those bady.

Infinity will be sold in Europe in 2008.
I hope to see the new Infinity G36 or Nissan Skyline V36 in Europe. :)

M, not G.
G is Nissan Skyline.

Yup my mistake.

We don't see many M's in the states (at least in my neighborhood) the most popular infiniti we see here are probably the FX and the G

alfa 159 TI: pure style alfa :cheers: :cheers:

http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/alfa-romeo-159-2007/big_alfa_159_2007_b.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/alfa-romeo-159-2007/big_alfa_159_2007_a.jpg

When it comes to Japanese executive cars, I prefer the Nissan Fuga

:) But Nissan is a part of Renault Group my friend, so it's not such a Japanese car :cheers:

For me, Toyota doesn't have the best design, but IMHO the Toyota quality is a step forward.

It is not the case :lol:
but why not the french cars in USA

Infinity Laguna
http://idata.over-blog.com/0/44/77/80/groupe-renault/laguna3.jpg

Infinity Vel Satis
http://faimg1.forum-auto.com/mesimages/157790/Image147.jpg
http://faimg1.forum-auto.com/mesimages/136011/B511123_1.jpg
http://faimg1.forum-auto.com/mesimages/136011/B511123_3.jpg

And how sell peugeot and Citroen in USA ?

Why not Lexus. :D (Peugeot 107 and Citroen C1 has the same platform than Toyota Aygo)

Lexus CX630
http://www.linternaute.com/imprimer/auto/constructeurs/psa/citroen/c6/diaporama/images/1.jpg
http://www.linternaute.com/imprimer/auto/constructeurs/psa/citroen/c6/diaporama/images/4.jpg
http://www.linternaute.com/imprimer/auto/constructeurs/psa/citroen/c6/diaporama/images/5.jpg

Lexus PX608
http://www.motorauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/Peugeot/Spy/puegeot_608.jpg

The 607 is a bit old now.
http://foto.autozone.be/fotoseurotax/450/peugeot-607-2005-4747.jpg

:) But Nissan is a part of Renault Group my friend, so it's not such a Japanese car :cheers:

For me, Toyota doesn't have the best design, but IMHO the Toyota quality is a step forward.

Nissan's spirit remains Japanese (well, when I see the brand new Skyline I wonder if it does though).

What about the Infiniti 607 Paladine (our new president's car):
http://news-img.caradisiac.com/./IMG/jpg/607-2.jpg

Nissan's spirit remains Japanese
But with a French heart...

By the way, I love your city man...
:)
I've a sister in law from there :banana:

But with a French heart...

By the way, I love your city man...
:)
I've a sister in law from there :banana:

Thanks, I do too :cheers: !

It is official the new Renault Laguna III

http://www.autoalgerie.com/IMG/jpg/new_laguna_02_01.jpg
http://www.autoalgerie.com/IMG/jpg/new_laguna_02_02.jpg
http://www.autoalgerie.com/IMG/jpg/new_laguna_02_03.jpg

It remind me a bit the Nissan Skyline. Coincidence ?

The first pic is C5... :nuts:

It's just a restyling, isn't it?
It doesn't look as a brand new design.

No it is a new model, I agree I am a bit disappointed by the face design.

How is Skoda Octavia selling in Europe? It's going to debut in China and is expected to be a hot sell, because it is well equipped and going to cost less than its competitors (well because it is a Skoda).

The first pic is C5... :nuts:

It's just a restyling, isn't it?
It doesn't look as a brand new design.

You've got a point. Still the new C5 (due to début next spring) will look like this:
http://www.autozeitung.de/online/bildDB/51281_700.jpg

http://www.autozeitung.de/online/bildDB/51283_700.jpg