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onmyoji
May 4th, 2006, 02:58 PM
The Tokyo Sky Tree will appear in the Narihirabashi/Oshiage area of Sumida Ward, Tokyo in 2011. Boasting a height of about 610m, the tower will be one of the world's tallest.

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/1378/imgabouttowerill.jpghttp://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7893/imgabouttower.jpg

Digital Terrestrial Broadcasting and the Role of the New Tower

In July 2011, the current analog broadcasting will end and a complete transition made to digital broadcasting.
Five commercial stations and NHK took this as a turning point to advance preparations towards digital broadcasting from a TV tower with a height of around 600m and decided on the Sumida/Taito area as the site for construction of the tower. In addition, for "one-segment broadcasting (one-seg)," a digital broadcasting service for mobile devices that was launched in April 2006, it is ideal to have transmissions from a height that is not very vulnerable to the forest of super high-rise buildings that stand at heights of around 200m in downtown Tokyo. Expectations are also on the tower to serve the role of a tower equipped with disaster prevention features.

Birth of a Town with a Tower

At the foot of the new tower will be a "town with a tower" spans about 400m from east to west, connecting Oshiage Station and Narihirabashi Station, and encompassing an area of about 3.69ha. A networking plaza leading from Oshiage Station to the tower lobby on level four of the facility, three plazas in front of the station and along Kitajukken River, and Shinsui Park will form a community environment where visitors and nearby residents will gather.

Location

Located about 1km east of Asakusa - a town filled with the atmosphere of a shitamachi (the traditional name for the area of Tokyo that extends from Taito, Chiyoda and Chuo Wards east of the Sumida River where many merchants, craftsmen, etc. reside) - and about 2km northeast of Ryogoku - a town famous for sumo wrestling. The new tower stands in a major traditional international tourism zone of Japan.

Development Schedule

Fiscal 2006: Basic design
Fiscal 2007~8: Execution design
July 2008: Start of construction
December 2011: (Scheduled) Construction completion
Spring 2012: (Scheduled) Grand opening

Official Website:
http://www.tokyo-skytree.jp/english/

european
May 4th, 2006, 03:19 PM
So many supertalls these days. nonethe less great looking tower.

Xeni-2
May 4th, 2006, 06:12 PM
Oh yeah, it looks like a serious thing :)

It would be cool to see Tokyo's skyline different and home to supertall ;)

onmyoji
May 5th, 2006, 03:56 AM
Yes, unfortunatly the tower will be far from the other skylines but believe me, it will be a real giant!!! have a look at http://www.sumida-tower.jp/

Effer
May 5th, 2006, 04:17 AM
I like it. :)
http://www.sumida-tower.jp/gallery/images/matsuya.jpg

Jue
May 5th, 2006, 05:01 AM
I likey. More graceful than the Oriental Pearl, for sure.

onmyoji
May 5th, 2006, 06:52 AM
Yes...I would say that Oriental Pearl is modern while the New Tokyo Tower is post-modern...anyway both are great!! Well, the Oriental Pearl is in a great place..(in the middle of Pundong area) with all super high skyscrapers all around...but NEW TOkyo Tower is almost two times higher!!!

Modernization
May 5th, 2006, 07:10 AM
Well, i would say the Sumida Tower is more modern for some reasons because it looks like the building's material is steel and glass and that makes it so shiny. The Oriental Pearl is concrete based as you can see some of the obvious stained spots on the concrete column from weathering.

onmyoji
May 5th, 2006, 07:29 AM
Well, i would say the Sumida Tower is more modern for some reasons because it looks like the building's material is steel and glass and that makes it so shiny. The Oriental Pearl is concrete based as you can see some of the obvious stained spots on the concrete column from weathering.

I agree with you! the shape is also quite different...
Unfortunatly Sumida Tower is little bit far from the downtown.

Modernization
May 5th, 2006, 07:42 AM
I dont' think they would build the Sumida in downtown. Why?? because it would look more attractive than the Tokyo tower

F-ian
May 5th, 2006, 08:06 AM
is this U/C yet? Grrrr Tokyo already has Tokyo Tower >( what will happen to Jakarta Tower :cry:

Scruffy88
May 5th, 2006, 08:49 AM
oh wow. to me this is the first tv tower that i actually find attractive. much better than that guangzhou one that started recently. good for tokyo

brisavoine
May 5th, 2006, 01:00 PM
But this is just a telecom structure. This is not a skyscraper with offices or apartments.

mtb_nz
May 5th, 2006, 01:03 PM
wow nice tower and a nice height... just what tokyo needs :)

Skyman
May 5th, 2006, 04:35 PM
Some more renders from official site
http://www.sumida-tower.jp/

http://www.sumida-tower.jp/gallery/images/hotel.jpg

http://www.sumida-tower.jp/gallery/images/people.jpg

http://www.sumida-tower.jp/gallery/images/matsuya.jpg

http://www.sumida-tower.jp/gallery/images/sunset01.jpg

http://www.sumida-tower.jp/gallery/images/sunset02.jpg

Stephan23
May 5th, 2006, 05:29 PM
:eek2: So many supertalls these days. :eek2:



And not one of these towers will be built in the future!!!!

Newcastle Guy
May 5th, 2006, 06:14 PM
It's a little like a modern eiffel tower, except 2x the height. Very nice!

wjfox
May 5th, 2006, 06:16 PM
Stunning.

onmyoji
May 5th, 2006, 06:28 PM
yes guys...it s amazing!!!

margog
May 5th, 2006, 08:17 PM
how amazing !!

rocky
May 5th, 2006, 08:19 PM
its copying the effeil tower:(

DjayD
May 5th, 2006, 08:32 PM
good for Tokyo, would there be an observation desk at the second level?

Krazy
May 5th, 2006, 08:54 PM
Stunning design but unfortunately it won't even reign for a single day as WTB... Burj Dubai's completion is due on Dec 31, 2008.

Emirati_Girl
May 5th, 2006, 08:57 PM
I love ToKyo ... Good luck for this biggest project..

LordMarshall
May 5th, 2006, 09:27 PM
great tower Tokyo deserves it :)

r4d1ty4
May 6th, 2006, 08:42 AM
this is better than Guangzhou's

eXSBass
May 6th, 2006, 11:49 AM
Thats a very beautiful and elegant skyscraper! I like that!

dannykylaw
May 6th, 2006, 11:56 AM
I rather like Tokyo tower than it.

Xeni-2
May 6th, 2006, 12:54 PM
Yes, cool design. Beautiful tower :)

Skyman
May 6th, 2006, 03:14 PM
Thats a very beautiful and elegant skyscraper! I like that!

I doubt that this tower is possible to name a skyscraper it reminds me a broadcasting aerial with two observation decks

Bertez
May 6th, 2006, 06:12 PM
I don't know if I like the design and colour of it.....

Audiomuse
May 6th, 2006, 09:37 PM
It's a little like a modern eiffel tower, except 2x the height. Very nice!

I agree. The second to last pic posted by skyman really looks like the base of the Eiffel Tower. This Telecom Tower is amazing. I love it!

Modernization
May 7th, 2006, 12:55 AM
I agree. The second to last pic posted by skyman really looks like the base of the Eiffel Tower. This Telecom Tower is amazing. I love it!

SO? the Tokyo Tower looks like the Effel too but its taller and more modern.

koolkid
May 7th, 2006, 01:01 AM
Tokyo rocks!!!

Modernization
May 7th, 2006, 01:06 AM
Tokyo rocks!!!
Yes, indeed Tokyo is the greatest city in the world.

StevenW
May 7th, 2006, 04:05 AM
wild!!

raymond_tung88
May 7th, 2006, 04:32 AM
I dunno... the Sumida Tower looks kinda ugly and boring. It seems like an Eiffel Tower wanna-be. They should really be more innovative and original in the design.

onmyoji
May 7th, 2006, 04:41 AM
I think Sumida tower has nothing to do with Effeil Tower, the shape is really different. The aim is totally different, the material as well....and of course the heigh is different.

Modernization
May 7th, 2006, 04:42 AM
I think Sumida tower has nothing to do with Effeil Tower, the shape is really different. The aim is totally different, the material as well....and of course the heigh is different.
Thank you!!! :)

demanjo
May 7th, 2006, 08:49 AM
I think its kinda wierd they are building it in this area of Tokyo. Its kinda a bit out of the way, not that central or exciting from my experience. The busy end of Asakusa and the railway stations are all on the other side of the Sumida, correct?

Oh well, magnificent building, cant wait to go up it.

onmyoji
May 7th, 2006, 10:09 AM
I think its kinda wierd they are building it in this area of Tokyo. Its kinda a bit out of the way, not that central or exciting from my experience. The busy end of Asakusa and the railway stations are all on the other side of the Sumida, correct?

Oh well, magnificent building, cant wait to go up it.


I completly agree with you!! but unfortunatly they can t build such a high tower near haneda airport!!!

SkyView
May 7th, 2006, 10:10 PM
I only like it's height.

Esthetically, I prefer the CN tower anytime.

onmyoji
May 10th, 2006, 11:21 AM
From the top the panorama should be simply incredible!!!

pon
May 11th, 2006, 12:55 PM
Stunned height but I think the desing should be better than this.....

HT
May 11th, 2006, 05:13 PM
Why they need a second Tokyo Tower ??

Jimbu
May 11th, 2006, 05:25 PM
beautiful i'm impressed but Tokyo deserve 1,000m+ tower

EtherealMist
May 12th, 2006, 04:01 AM
holy crap so many supertalls going up, this is the first time I checked the developments forum in a while. Good for Tokyo!

Mosaic
May 13th, 2006, 08:18 PM
beautiful i'm impressed but Tokyo deserve 1,000m+ tower
yes, indeed :)

Azn_chi_boi
May 13th, 2006, 09:02 PM
This tower awesome, Tokyo deserve this for sure...

Dr. Dubai
May 13th, 2006, 09:15 PM
beautiful tower!:eek:

onmyoji
May 15th, 2006, 01:24 PM
New Tokyo tower to pump 47.3 billion yen to local economy annually
(Kyodo) _ A new 610-meter-high radio and TV transmission tower to be built in Tokyo's Sumida Ward will likely pump 47.3 billion yen a year to the local economy, a think tank said Wednesday.
The tower -- higher than the 553-meter CN Tower in Toronto, Canada, so far the world's tallest structure -- is expected to draw Japanese and foreign visitors to the new attraction in Sumida Ward, according to the Dai-ichi Life Research Institute.

Even before its completion in 2011, the 50-billion yen tower will likely add a total of 95.4 billion yen in sales of goods and services during the four-year construction period that will commence in 2008, the think tank said.

"The local economy is likely to receive strong stimulus from a likely surge in the number of foreign tourists and other expected results due to the combined tourist-attracting effects of the new tower and nearby long-time tourist spots like Asakusa and Ryogoku," it said.

The think tank forecasts 3 million Japanese and foreign visitors will visit the Sumida tower a year. The 333-meter-high Tokyo Tower, located in Minato Ward, attracts 2.6 million visitors a year.

Annual revenues from admission fees, transmission fees to be paid by Japan Broadcasting Corp. and five commercial TV broadcasters, hotel accommodation, as well as other sales to be directly induced by the new tower are projected at 29.7 billion yen. ADVERTISEMENT



On top of the revenues, the tower in Sumida Ward will induce such indirect economic effects as incomes to be reaped by financial institutions and the food industry that will feed its visitors, it said.

Apart from the tower's building costs, the construction will induce secondary effects for industrial segments related to its construction, including those for manpower agencies that will mediate in dispatching construction workers and for construction material makers like steelmakers, it added.

Fragmentor
May 15th, 2006, 02:09 PM
I think this is fabulous, I love tokyo as a city and the more the merrier!

decepticon
May 15th, 2006, 02:40 PM
I like it, if the "blue ufo's" are a littlebit smaller... It's so freakin big!, it takes the shape of the structure out of balance. :runaway:

Audiomuse
May 16th, 2006, 07:36 PM
:?
Esthetically, I prefer the CN tower anytime.[/QUOTE]

Are you serious? :? The CN Tower is a little too bland to me.

Victoria
May 17th, 2006, 08:01 PM
It looks elegant, but it looks "too" tall for my taste.

Ebola
May 17th, 2006, 09:04 PM
Looks cool, but it doesn't look like it will be counted as a skyscraper.

Imperfect Ending
May 18th, 2006, 05:25 PM
Now here is a city that really needs it.
but it will be really out of place.

NorthPole
May 18th, 2006, 05:46 PM
Looks like a hybrid of Tokyo Tower (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Tower) and Warsaw radio mast (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_radio_mast) both in shape and hight :)
But I hope it won't share the fate of the latter one :|

ZZ-II
May 18th, 2006, 08:57 PM
It looks a Little bit like the Riga tower, or not?
When should be Construction Start?

ReddAlert
May 19th, 2006, 02:14 AM
amazing. Its about damn time too---Tokyo getting something awesome in its skyline beside the Tokyo Tower. And Mt. Fuji I guess.

european
May 19th, 2006, 02:17 AM
how serious is this project?

Biakko
May 19th, 2006, 02:26 AM
how serious is this project?

Very ;)

forvine
May 19th, 2006, 08:58 PM
This is certainly a great news for Tokyo. :okay:

c0kelitr0
May 21st, 2006, 01:15 PM
that's one of the best looking towers! :okay:

onmyoji
June 23rd, 2006, 08:13 AM
I waiting for the construction starting....the tower is to be completed on 2010!!!!!

atakchi
June 23rd, 2006, 08:20 AM
Woow.Fantastic :)

FELIPE NATAL
June 23rd, 2006, 08:46 AM
I LOVE TOKYO! THIS TOWER IS VERY FANTASTIC...

MoneyBags
June 29th, 2006, 06:55 AM
..wow i just love this tower... I think this will really reinvent Tokyo and boost its image even more.. With China booming from what I've been hearing Japan is losing its edge, and I think this will really bring some magic back to Tokyo.. This tower really makes it look like the Paris of the East, well so does Shanghai.. anyways love this tower and I have a question... Will this replace the existing Tokyo Tower?....

MyNameIsJonathan
June 29th, 2006, 07:21 AM
It's beautiful!

CULWULLA
June 29th, 2006, 07:34 AM
excellent. when is due to start excavations?

onmyoji
June 29th, 2006, 11:49 AM
..wow i just love this tower... I think this will really reinvent Tokyo and boost its image even more.. With China booming from what I've been hearing Japan is losing its edge, and I think this will really bring some magic back to Tokyo.. This tower really makes it look like the Paris of the East, well so does Shanghai.. anyways love this tower and I have a question... Will this replace the existing Tokyo Tower?....


Tokyo is under a new constructions boom...I think Tokyo is not losing its edge. The answer is no: it will not replace the Tokyo tower.

onmyoji
June 29th, 2006, 11:52 AM
excellent. when is due to start excavations?


I don t know exactly. I think from next year

Th3-Co0L-P3rTh-Guy
June 29th, 2006, 12:22 PM
wow what a stunning project:)hope it goes through:okay:

onmyoji
June 30th, 2006, 02:57 PM
I love this project but the only problem is that the new tokyo tower will be constructed little bit far from the city center...around 10 minutes from tokyo station

onmyoji
July 4th, 2006, 02:42 PM
According to japan forum news, the project for this tower has been changed...the shape will be different...
Here you can find the new architect...http://www.tobu.co.jp/news/2006/7/060704-1.pdf

_zner_
July 4th, 2006, 02:54 PM
fabulous!!! :eek2:

godblessbotox
July 4th, 2006, 07:33 PM
...should have said there was no rendering in that link

*UofT*
July 4th, 2006, 07:38 PM
What's with Tokyo and towers with anorexic base structures??

Both the Tokyo tower and this 610m tower have a very thin base, Is it designed that way as a precautionary measure against earthquakes??

I don't really like it, Tokyo deserves better.

samsonyuen
July 4th, 2006, 10:27 PM
I like it. It looks nice, and I think it's good for Tokyo to have a landmark skyscraper too.

SimFox
July 8th, 2006, 03:42 AM
I certainly hope design will be changed! Cause what I see is very derivative and unimaginative! I can see why this thing may be desired to stimulate local economy but this is its only merit. At least of this design.
Has the project got definite go ahead? Or is this just a idea? Because if it is something approved how come design has been changed, and completion date varies from 2009 to 2011. Emporis just says that construction is expected to finish 2011, but doesn't mention when it is expected to start though...
On one page I’ve found that it will probably be started at 2008 "aiming” to finish in 2011. One thing that looks a bit suspicious - cost at 50bln yen. For a 610 m tower designed and built to withstand earthquakes of the magnitude one expects in Japan it sounds way too little. If you look at cost of similar structures they all run into billions of dollars not yens. And built in Japan with its cost structure... In the end it’ll probably be something like 4 times as much!

Most fascinating will be to see technology employed for earthquake proofing!
I certainly hope for Discovery Channel special!! :cheers1:

Siopao
July 8th, 2006, 04:31 AM
Why is it gonna be named Tokyo Tower? There is already a Tokyo Tower. Why not naming it another name?

Mr. Maciek
July 8th, 2006, 10:43 AM
^^ lol, tokyo tower the II

as for the tower it looks fantastic, hopefully it turns out exactly as shown on them renders.

Nongkhai_tong
July 8th, 2006, 01:41 PM
WOW!! really tall...........Great for TOKYO

virarch
July 9th, 2006, 05:06 AM
That's a very elegant and futuristic design. Far better than the ones in Toronto, Shanghai, Beijing, Guangzhou (UC) and Moscow.

Sinjin P.
July 9th, 2006, 08:35 AM
What's the latest on this?

Mosaic
July 9th, 2006, 03:30 PM
So it will be named as Tokyo tower again?????

SoulvisionQ1
July 9th, 2006, 03:41 PM
Amazing, just amazing...Very futuristic...Mixed use?

Ashram
July 9th, 2006, 05:33 PM
^mixed use? It's a telecom tower. It's main purpose is for HD broadcasts.

so it will be named as Tokyo tower again?????

It's name is Sumida Tower.

ZZ-II
July 9th, 2006, 06:39 PM
Yes the Name is Sumida Tower, you can read it on Emporis Mosaic

virtualchoirboy
July 9th, 2006, 09:34 PM
The Eiffel Tower with a Japanese accent.
Most sincerest form of flattery.

onmyoji
July 10th, 2006, 11:36 AM
The shape will be changed...the project is under development!
the name probably will be Sumida Tower, but nothing has been decided yet

Dancer
July 10th, 2006, 11:46 AM
Some more renders from official site
http://www.sumida-tower.jp/

http://www.sumida-tower.jp/gallery/images/hotel.jpg

http://www.sumida-tower.jp/gallery/images/people.jpg

http://www.sumida-tower.jp/gallery/images/matsuya.jpg

http://www.sumida-tower.jp/gallery/images/sunset01.jpg

http://www.sumida-tower.jp/gallery/images/sunset02.jpg

How beautiful are these renderings? VERY!!!!!!!

Harkeb
July 11th, 2006, 05:18 AM
nothinh spectacular about it, but its height

Kngkyle
July 11th, 2006, 05:36 AM
Same height as fordham spire, cept fordham will have residences.

shaggers_jr
July 12th, 2006, 04:39 AM
This is really ugly. I'm disappointed that a country with such a deep sense of design as Japan can only give us this monstrosity.

googleabcd
July 28th, 2006, 08:14 PM
The Guangzhou TV tower is also 610 meter, I don't know why you say Tokyo tower is the tallest.
Besides, from my point of view, the Guangzhou TV tower is better than the Tokyo if the rendering in this post is the final design.
Guangzhou TV tower, all constructed with steel
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1139/2306151151247594de4.jpg
http://www.skyscrapers.cn/images/asia/cn/gd/AF_Tower4.jpg

kamilo rxn
July 28th, 2006, 08:20 PM
wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww i dont have words to describe it just spectacular

sharpie20
July 29th, 2006, 07:33 AM
Tokyo, conscious of its Asian rivals such as Taipei and Kuala Lumpur with far taller skyscrapers, has been growing increasingly anxious to get its Sumida Tower scheme underway and re-establish Japan's reputation as a country of spectacular engineering projects. But a long and bitter feud between rival districts along the city's famous Sumida river vying to host the tower has delayed a final decision.



Maybe they should build a formidable skyline instead of these ugly towers

ZZ-II
July 29th, 2006, 09:20 AM
both are great

Sinjin P.
July 29th, 2006, 09:31 AM
Anyway, the world deserves such supertalls... :D

Mosaic
July 29th, 2006, 09:42 AM
Yes the Name is Sumida Tower, you can read it on Emporis Mosaic

Oh! Thanks :)

marching
July 29th, 2006, 02:43 PM
I Like Sumida than Guangzhou TV Tower.

oz.fil
July 30th, 2006, 08:37 AM
the tower looks amazing! will it have an observation deck?

Momo1435
July 30th, 2006, 09:03 AM
The Guangzhou TV tower is also 610 meter, I don't know why you say Tokyo tower is the tallest.
Because the Sumida Tower is bigger! :baeh3: it's Japan duh!

頑張って日本

mantarraya
July 30th, 2006, 09:01 PM
wow O_O

google_abcd
July 31st, 2006, 01:13 AM
Because the Sumida Tower is bigger! :baeh3: it's Japan duh!

頑張って日本

-It seems that you don't understand the difference between "tall" and "big".
-I don't see any evidence to prove that Toyko tower is bigger.
无聊的小日本

nano2192
July 31st, 2006, 01:52 AM
Very nice tower!!!Good for Tokio1!!

onmyoji
August 14th, 2006, 02:06 PM
the work are supposed to start next year 2007. No project are yet officilized

Chi649
August 16th, 2006, 07:20 AM
Japan can do better and deserves better than this. This tower isn't all that special. But then again, most "towers" or "structures" are not as attractive as buildings.

An iconic tower that visually represents and reinforces the fact that Tokyo is one of the four most important cities in the world, it is not. But good height, which the tower has, makes up for the design a little. Overall, this will be a good thing for Tokyo.

ZZ-II
August 16th, 2006, 12:56 PM
Because the Sumida Tower is bigger! :baeh3: it's Japan duh!

頑張って日本


and more beautiful :)

Eureka!
August 16th, 2006, 01:24 PM
Nice graceful tower, very modern and I like the renders but why does Tokyo need to Eiffel Towers??? lol. Hopefully it's as shiny and silver as the renders although I doubt it will be as it's a render.

tallertoronto
October 27th, 2006, 05:25 PM
COOL!

Alle
October 27th, 2006, 06:02 PM
The Guangzhou TV tower is also 610 meter, I don't know why you say Tokyo tower is the tallest.
Besides, from my point of view, the Guangzhou TV tower is better than the Tokyo if the rendering in this post is the final design.
Guangzhou TV tower, all constructed with steel
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1139/2306151151247594de4.jpg
http://www.skyscrapers.cn/images/asia/cn/gd/AF_Tower4.jpg


Maybe for Guangzhou, but sumidatower suits Tokyo better with its modern bluish look.

ZZ-II
October 27th, 2006, 08:07 PM
sumida tower looks much better i think

bertiboy
October 27th, 2006, 10:40 PM
very futuristic, but nice

wiki
October 28th, 2006, 02:36 AM
amazing tower

Tricky
October 28th, 2006, 03:38 AM
not a big fan of the design - too much of an 'eiffel tower' in there.... anyhow, see what the finish product looks like.

leno666
October 28th, 2006, 03:53 AM
all i can say is that this tower really disappointed me from japan,
this towers... for me is ugly, my reasons:
1.there are already many towers of this kind of design so its getting kind of boring
2. too slim
3. I dont see anything "modern" and "futuristic" on this design to be honest
4. Not very innovative for me
And if this is getting constructed with this design, well, this will give me 1 reason to say that japan is not very innovative, also i too think that japan deserve much more, like a 1k tower height and a innovative desing

Jamandell (d69)
October 28th, 2006, 03:57 PM
Any news about this tower at all in the last few months?

Erebus555
October 28th, 2006, 09:53 PM
Has the makings of a landmark :)

Middle-Island
October 29th, 2006, 03:24 AM
Something's wrong with this tower, IMO. It's too stiff and severe--erector set looking. Love the decks, though.

AmherstMan
October 29th, 2006, 05:34 AM
this will cost atleast 500 million for the land

djmegabyte
October 29th, 2006, 06:46 AM
O.M.G.!!

so amazing!

Levelup
October 30th, 2006, 01:52 PM
Absolutely stunning!!!
There isnt a city in the world that wouldnt like this project as its own :)

Aweson
October 31st, 2006, 02:25 AM
Absolutely stunning!!!
There isnt a city in the world that wouldnt like this project as its own :)
Why is it stunning?
Its just a tower... It doesnt even look big even though its tall
Its like CN tower, only upper decks are usable,
You know they can easily build those super tall tv towers that are like 3 metres thick, these arent stunning, this one uses same principle

I really hoped Tokyo would bould something BIG like Jin Mao tower or ... even one of those in UAE around Burj
Imean these are buildings even if its 300-400m its better than 600m observation deck
althogh you can kill me now, this is just my opinion

Dallas star
October 31st, 2006, 03:06 AM
Whats wrong with the other tokyo tower?

onmyoji
October 31st, 2006, 04:08 AM
the old tokyo tower is surrounded by many skyscrapers lately and the transmission of tv sign is quite bad. So in 2010 the sign will be shift to digital and tokyo needs a new tower able to send all the sign to the whole Tokyo area.

onmyoji
November 28th, 2006, 01:16 PM
this is the final project of NEW TOKYO TOWER...it is simply amazing. the construction will start in 2008 and it will be complted in 2011 http://www.rising-east.jp/

redstone
November 28th, 2006, 02:05 PM
What's at the site now?

ZZ-II
November 28th, 2006, 04:19 PM
Stunning!! the new design is much better than the old!

great184
November 28th, 2006, 06:20 PM
Hmm... It will take a while for it to grow on me... The design is nice except for those two observation decks.

lpioe
November 28th, 2006, 06:25 PM
I like the new design much better, nonetheless Guangzhou TV tower is still ahead of it in my opinion.

onmyoji
November 29th, 2006, 06:07 AM
according to the web site the tower should remind the japanese pagoda..but frankly speaking there is no connection...!!! by the way the tower is amazing!! the panorama should be something unbelievable..

Manila-X
November 29th, 2006, 06:31 AM
The current design is much better and it reminds me of The Millenium Tower.

Brendan
November 29th, 2006, 08:05 AM
I like it, it looks quite elegant as well.

Henry_W
November 30th, 2006, 02:01 AM
I like it too- very striking. Is it wise to build such a tall building in an earthquake zone like Tokyo? The city is expecting the next 'big one', isn't it?

Imagine the views from that thing!

google_abcd
November 30th, 2006, 03:02 AM
To be honest, Guangzhou TV tower(also 610M) looks much better in the rendering

Levelup
November 30th, 2006, 04:35 PM
Why is it stunning?
Its just a tower... It doesnt even look big even though its tall
Its like CN tower, only upper decks are usable,
You know they can easily build those super tall tv towers that are like 3 metres thick, these arent stunning, this one uses same principle

I really hoped Tokyo would bould something BIG like Jin Mao tower or ... even one of those in UAE around Burj
Imean these are buildings even if its 300-400m its better than 600m observation deck
althogh you can kill me now, this is just my opinion

Dont worry...there's no blood fued here, lol.
I just think its a fab project. I'd be hapopy to see it in my city:)

NegiNegi
November 30th, 2006, 11:01 PM
New Tokyo Tower 610m

Supervised by Tadao Ando(Architect) and Kiichi Sumikawa(Engraver)

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/3050/risingeast2084020307222qw4.jpg (http://www.rising-east.jp)

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/245/risingeast2046330640ew1.jpg (http://www.rising-east.jp)

Skyman
December 1st, 2006, 04:31 AM
I guess, that vision is much better then the last one

BOM
December 1st, 2006, 04:49 AM
I like it - very sleek - but it totally dominates the cityscape.

spotila
December 1st, 2006, 04:50 AM
very very cool

onmyoji
December 29th, 2006, 05:58 AM
The Web site of New Tokyo tower has been changed...
look at http://www.rising-east.jp/
here you can find much more information, videos and pictures...Enjoy the new tallest tower in the world!!

shawarma
December 29th, 2006, 03:04 PM
nice but how will it be the tallest?!

ZZ-II
December 30th, 2006, 05:54 PM
with 610 is won't be the tallest ^^.

onmyoji
January 3rd, 2007, 03:51 AM
with 610 meter it will be the tallest tower in the world...I said Tower, not Building...

AKIRAsan
January 3rd, 2007, 04:09 AM
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/245/risingeast2046330640ew1.jpg
TOKYO 610m


http://www56.tok2.com/home/upload2002/cgi-bin/img-box/img20070101223711.jpg
SAPPORO 650m

Anekdote
January 3rd, 2007, 04:16 AM
wow looks fantastic !! love it

sushibricks
January 3rd, 2007, 04:33 AM
onmyoji's right, its a TOWER, not a building.

Not to offend anyone, but communication towers are apparently easier to build then normal buildings, so its not as amazing as it should be if it were a building, but then again, i myself love towers as well.

I'm just worried about earthquake issues. The main reason why Japan doesnt have many buildings over 300 meters is due to earthquakes as most of us may know.

Personally, I cant wait till this building is completed though, the view would be magnificent!

Northern Lotus
January 3rd, 2007, 07:06 AM
Sorry, I don't like it. It looks too much like an engineering work, not artistic and not elegant.

Dale
January 3rd, 2007, 07:13 AM
I agree. Improvement over the original, but not nearly so poetic as the Guangzhou.

onmyoji
January 4th, 2007, 11:34 AM
Yes, I agree with someone of you...the tower is ok but not beautifull. In any case I think the Tower is a good news for tokyo skyline. We are talking about a 610 meter tower. It s true, we are not talking about building but I want to underline how less are the cities with such a tall tower! I m sure soon we ll have some other good news for Tokyo skyline...I just read that there is a plan to build the second Roppongi hills tower...

megatower
January 4th, 2007, 11:45 AM
with 610 meter it will be the tallest tower in the world...I said Tower, not Building...

it wont be neither because of the might Burj Dubai :)

onmyoji
January 4th, 2007, 01:22 PM
it wont be neither because of the might Burj Dubai :)


Burj Dubai is not a tower. It is considered as building...

sushibricks
January 4th, 2007, 04:15 PM
omg lol since some people don't understand the difference between towers and buildings...

It IS going to be the tallest TOWER in the world.

Burj Dubai is a building, not a tower.

Think this way, CN Tower is a communication tower right?

Think of those needle looking free-standing towers. Those are towers, not bulidings.

iñaki-garcia
January 4th, 2007, 04:44 PM
I like it!!

onmyoji
January 4th, 2007, 04:46 PM
omg lol since some people don't understand the difference between towers and buildings...

It IS going to be the tallest TOWER in the world.

Burj Dubai is a building, not a tower.

Think this way, CN Tower is a communication tower right?

Think of those needle looking free-standing towers. Those are towers, not bulidings.


thank u for helping me...

wynngd
January 4th, 2007, 04:52 PM
It's ok there are lots of people always have misconception between towers and skyscrapers. IMO I love this tower a lot better than CN tower but I love Eiffel tower more. This must be a great work of engineering since Japan always experienced earthquakes.

Dale
January 4th, 2007, 05:38 PM
Yes, I agree with someone of you...the tower is ok but not beautifull. In any case I think the Tower is a good news for tokyo skyline. We are talking about a 610 meter tower. It s true, we are not talking about building but I want to underline how less are the cities with such a tall tower! I m sure soon we ll have some other good news for Tokyo skyline...I just read that there is a plan to build the second Roppongi hills tower...


It will be a very striking skyline feature.

henshin
January 4th, 2007, 06:39 PM
wow. it's dominate the whole tokyo (smoke)

megatower
January 4th, 2007, 08:35 PM
Burj Dubai is not a tower. It is considered as building...i know that, but it will be the tallest tower ever built to, so it will take that record from the Tokyo tower :cheers:

sushibricks
January 5th, 2007, 06:10 PM
i dont think anything can be a tower and a building at the same time. The twoer I'm referring to are freestanding towers like CN Tower and Space Needle and Oriental Pearl Tower.

Burj Dubai is considered a building (emphasis on considered) but if I'm wrong, please tell me. I'm not trying to start a war, but rather im trying to sort things out. xD thx

wynngd
January 5th, 2007, 06:32 PM
I agree with Megatower. If my memory serves me right, When the sears tower is the tallest building in the world, the CN tower is the tallest man made structure. If Burj Dubai will be the tallest building in the world (in I think 700M?), then it is both the tallest building and the tallest man made structure. I'm also confused with the tower and building.

ZZ-II
January 5th, 2007, 11:42 PM
the talles man made structure on earth is 628m tall :)

megatower
January 6th, 2007, 09:14 AM
I agree with Megatower. If my memory serves me right, When the sears tower is the tallest building in the world, the CN tower is the tallest man made structure. If Burj Dubai will be the tallest building in the world (in I think 700M?), then it is both the tallest building and the tallest man made structure. I'm also confused with the tower and building.well it's 808M :)

onmyoji
January 23rd, 2007, 04:27 PM
the construction will start at the end of this year...I`m looking forward to put some pictures in this forum!!!

ZZ-II
January 23rd, 2007, 05:32 PM
end of this year, that's great!

chromebowler
January 23rd, 2007, 07:15 PM
This tower will certainly distinguish the Asakusa district - I don't believe there are any particularly striking high rises or skyscrapers in that area. This tower might also fit nicely in the Shinjuku district.

Chris Takagi
January 24th, 2007, 03:03 PM
i dont think anything can be a tower and a building at the same time

the new Sapporo Tower will be ;)
anyway, good news for Japan!

Gandhi
January 25th, 2007, 05:02 AM
I can`t see any pic. I see X X and more X :(

Please help me to see some photo of this project. Thankx

Brendan
January 26th, 2007, 12:00 AM
i know that, but it will be the tallest tower ever built to, so it will take that record from the Tokyo tower :cheers:

Yes but the Enviromission Solar Tower project here in Australia will take that title from the Burj Dubai. It's uh... a kilometre tall. ;)

Miso
January 26th, 2007, 02:50 AM
yeah, where are the pics?.... I can't see anyone too :ohno: :eek2:

onmyoji
February 23rd, 2007, 05:54 PM
The project has found all the investment...in 4 or 5 months the construction will start!! I ll post some pictures if I go to Tokyo in that period!!

Alle
February 23rd, 2007, 06:33 PM
Good to hear they have found investors. This will ad tremendously to the Tokyo skyline :)

TexasSkyWatcher
February 23rd, 2007, 08:24 PM
I love the design [never saw the first one]. I think it is much better looking than the Guangzhou tower.

ZZ-II
February 24th, 2007, 11:09 AM
The project has found all the investment...in 4 or 5 months the construction will start!! I ll post some pictures if I go to Tokyo in that period!!

great news, can't wait :)

Renato Leao
March 22nd, 2007, 07:02 AM
Well I see Tokyo and Osaka in next 10 years will have many tall Building but pleaple if you know some thing about add ok

SLKRR
March 22nd, 2007, 02:32 PM
i dont think anything can be a tower and a building at the same time. The twoer I'm referring to are freestanding towers like CN Tower and Space Needle and Oriental Pearl Tower.

Burj Dubai is considered a building (emphasis on considered) but if I'm wrong, please tell me. I'm not trying to start a war, but rather im trying to sort things out. xD thx

The categories break down like this:

1) Tallest structure (any structure at all, whether free-standing or supported) - Radio mast in N. Dakota, USA @ 628 m
2) Tallest free-standing structure (must be free-standing, NOT supported by guy wires) - CN Tower in Toronto @ 553 m
3) Tallest skyscraper/building (must be free-standing, but also be habitable for most of its height) - Taipei 101, Taiwan @ 509 m

All skyscrapers are free-standing structures, but not all free-standing structures are skyscrapers. All free-standing structures are structures, but not all structures are free-standing. Burj Dubai will take all three of these titles as soon as it passes 628 m in height.

(There is also a separate category for underwater structures like oil rigs, but these are also not free-standing as they are partially supported by buoyancy.)

James R. Hawkwood
March 22nd, 2007, 06:25 PM
Yes but the Enviromission Solar Tower project here in Australia will take that title from the Burj Dubai. It's uh... a kilometre tall. ;)

The Al Burj will be 1200 Meters high :lol:

Erm yes this will deffinetly a marvel iff it looks exactly like shown on the renders.

onmyoji
April 4th, 2007, 05:59 AM
http://www.rising-east.jp/project/history.html

you can have a short history of the place where the tower will be built...

Ginza
April 4th, 2007, 06:10 AM
I'm amazed that with Japan being a major world power I varely hear anything on buildings being built in Japan

giovani kun
April 4th, 2007, 09:47 AM
subarashii kikaku desu ..demo..are atarashii takyo tower itsu ga owatta...sukoshii hajimarimasen .... tateru nakereba naranai.....jia ne.. itte kimasu...>_<
:dance:

redbaron_012
April 4th, 2007, 10:07 AM
Onimotso oh ohakiby shimus ?

giovani kun
April 4th, 2007, 10:18 AM
Excuse me that was for the ones who know japanese.....
:dance:

Unsing
April 4th, 2007, 04:29 PM
This map shows how skyscrapers are located in Tokyo. The star mark is the location of Sumida Tower.
you know what I mean... It's far from the current clusters.

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/752/209982406722259qf4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Karakuri
April 4th, 2007, 07:04 PM
Excuse me that was for the ones who know japanese.....
:dance:

Hehe, should write in Japanese then, nah?

AM Putra
April 5th, 2007, 03:41 AM
Amazing Japanese Eiffel. Asian hi-rise development are indeed majorized by Dubai, China, etc. so forgive me that I just know it today.

giovani kun
April 5th, 2007, 08:42 AM
分かりました。。日本語 で。。とても すばらしい プロジェクト です。。
:dance:

Alle
April 5th, 2007, 01:36 PM
Using:

Very good map thank you for posting

mero-toty
April 5th, 2007, 03:02 PM
its look like efil tower

ZZ-II
April 5th, 2007, 06:22 PM
分かりました。。日本語 で。。とても すばらしい プロジェクト です。。
:dance:

please stop writing that silly smilie!

FastFerrari
April 6th, 2007, 01:12 AM
this is pretty freakin tall.....and to think Dubai is already building one thats over 80 meters taller.....:nuts:

chinatown
April 6th, 2007, 05:00 AM
Tokyo Tower now has a big bro :)

CULWULLA
April 6th, 2007, 07:14 AM
this is pretty freakin tall.....and to think Dubai is already building one thats over 80 meters taller.....:nuts:
dont you mean 200m taller?

Scottnufc
April 6th, 2007, 05:07 PM
i kno this has probably been said before about this tower, but does it have some kind of built in earthquake defense mechanism, seeing as it is in tokyo an all

Northern Lotus
April 6th, 2007, 05:12 PM
The Guangzhou TV tower is also 610 meter, I don't know why you say Tokyo tower is the tallest.
Besides, from my point of view, the Guangzhou TV tower is better than the Tokyo if the rendering in this post is the final design.
Guangzhou TV tower, all constructed with steel
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1139/2306151151247594de4.jpg
http://www.skyscrapers.cn/images/asia/cn/gd/AF_Tower4.jpg

I agree with you. Guangzhou tower is original in design, Tokyo tower is like a modern copy of Eiffel tower.

redstone
April 6th, 2007, 06:21 PM
What is on the site now?

Momo1435
April 6th, 2007, 07:00 PM
I agree with you. Guangzhou tower is original in designYes, but that's because it's some very good Dutch design!
Tokyo tower is like a modern copy of Eiffel tower.I like it that's it a bit retro, because it makes it even more like a tower that you would find in a futuristic vision of Tokyo!

onmyoji
April 9th, 2007, 04:27 PM
yes i think the guangzhou tower are more modern...the new tokyo tower is a classic tower. but i am sure will be beautiful in any case

Brendan
April 9th, 2007, 05:15 PM
Tokyo Tower now has a big bro :)

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I thought they were demolishing the existing Tokyo Tower and building this upon it.

ZZ-II
April 9th, 2007, 06:01 PM
no they will not destroy the old :lol:

giovani kun
April 9th, 2007, 07:49 PM
No No..there are too many menories with the old one..and plus it's neet to have two towers ..from where to observe the city....:cheers: ....or better sad the metropolis..:)

EloyBr
April 9th, 2007, 08:32 PM
do you think?

Europeo
April 9th, 2007, 11:18 PM
I agree with you. Guangzhou tower is original in design, Tokyo tower is like a modern copy of Eiffel tower.
hi Northern Lotus,

i am sorry to destroy your dream of originality. but if you paint the Guangzhou TV tower in red... it looks like the Kobe tower in japan... different size, but same design... much more similar than the new sumida tower and the eiffel tower.

i lived in france and in japan ... i had plenty of time to know the both towers.

i love when people only think with stereotypes ... and miss a lot of knowledge by focussing on few symbols.
i dont have a photo of the kobe tower to post, but it is easy to find it on google.

paw25694
April 14th, 2007, 06:19 PM
dont like the design, sorry :(

Sentient Seas
April 17th, 2007, 03:12 AM
Wow... that's huge... :nuts:

Jose Luis
April 17th, 2007, 05:42 AM
i love it

spicytimothy
April 17th, 2007, 10:23 AM
Tokyo is so overrated :-( Especially its skyscrapers... so many boxes, so lil innovation :-(

Roppongi Hills & the Metropolitan gov't complex are exceptions tho. I love those two:-)

RSG
April 17th, 2007, 01:15 PM
I would like to see the model of this when they are simulating an earthquake.

Remusable
April 17th, 2007, 05:37 PM
hi Northern Lotus,

i am sorry to destroy your dream of originality. but if you paint the Guangzhou TV tower in red... it looks like the Kobe tower in japan... different size, but same design... much more similar than the new sumida tower and the eiffel tower.

i lived in france and in japan ... i had plenty of time to know the both towers.

i love when people only think with stereotypes ... and miss a lot of knowledge by focussing on few symbols.
i dont have a photo of the kobe tower to post, but it is easy to find it on google.

He wasn't saying that Sumida tower is similar to the Eifel tower, he was saying that Tokyo tower is similar to the Eifel tower. Which it is.

Alle
May 16th, 2007, 07:59 PM
So what many observation tower look a lot like each other. Tokyo Tower fits tokyo well, in red. Just as Eiffel Tower suites Paris (maybe we today think so becouse we are so used to the combination, but i believe it does colorwise etc).

The concept of twisting skyscrapers was first introduced in Malmö, shouldnt other be able to implement their own interpretations and types of the style becouse of that? From what ive seen about architecture in Tokyo it is honestly not overrated, there is a lot of variation and buildings which stand out (with that said its not neccesarely always good for buildings to stand out to much). The lack of skyscrapers have natural and obvious reasons.

FastFerrari
May 16th, 2007, 09:01 PM
it took the largest metro in the world a long time to get a supertall....is it that they lay by a large and active fault....?....in my opinion Toyko should look like Neo-Toyko off of Akira.

Alle
May 16th, 2007, 09:09 PM
Of course its becouse of earthquakerisks, no reason to invest in a skyscraper that might be demolished by an earthquake the next year. Maybe its becouse its more practical with the lower buildings to. But if the earthquake risk werent a factor i can imagine they would have built taller earlier even if not frequently at least a couple of ones.

Bori427
May 20th, 2007, 07:18 AM
So many supertalls these days,not even funny but this one looks kinda unique

Cristovão471
May 20th, 2007, 08:30 AM
I believe Towers are a cheap excuse to be among 'the top' of the world. Buildings are far more impressive.

onmyoji
May 21st, 2007, 05:49 PM
I believe Towers are a cheap excuse to be among 'the top' of the world. Buildings are far more impressive.

you just forgot a small detail...Tokyo needs this tower for the new broadcasting system!!

44p
July 30th, 2007, 12:59 AM
the mega Eiffel tower:lol:

ZZ-II
September 25th, 2007, 09:07 PM
construction start is next year i believe

RON-E
September 26th, 2007, 06:44 PM
looks kind of clunky, but i love tokyo so much, this is well deserved! i love it love it love it!

redstone
September 26th, 2007, 06:52 PM
What's on the site now?

Momo1435
September 26th, 2007, 09:29 PM
What's on the site now?
I believe there's an old disused railway depot right now:

http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=35.709914,139.810542&spn=0.006525,0.010042&t=h&z=17&om=1

Gaeus
September 26th, 2007, 10:12 PM
So we are building four 600m and one 700m (or 800m?) Supertalls in under one decade. Plus the proposal of 1 more 600m which will be approve anyway. This is getting nuts. :nuts: :nuts: :nuts:

Jude12
September 27th, 2007, 12:54 PM
theres already the tokyo tower there. why build another one? but still i like this tower. :)

Dyn.tek
September 27th, 2007, 03:00 PM
what is the hype on these antennas??


this has nothing to do with a real tower!

FlyFish
September 27th, 2007, 06:32 PM
I agree with above. It's a glorified radio tower. BFD.

Gattberserk
September 29th, 2007, 07:42 AM
BD
Pagcor tower
Sumida tower
GZ tower
RT
CS




5 600m+ structure and 1 800m structure, that is quite insane within such a short period of time.

Jude12
September 29th, 2007, 02:19 PM
^^ well thats the future. :)

AKIRAsan
September 29th, 2007, 03:30 PM
http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/1447/23487877fy8.jpg

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6940/56544960fq0.jpg

AKIRAsan
September 29th, 2007, 03:31 PM
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/6529/061124towerp0bk7.jpg

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4411/tower3wb9.jpg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3097/tower1xe1.jpg

Jude12
September 29th, 2007, 03:34 PM
wow. really nice design for a tower.

ZZ-II
September 29th, 2007, 03:55 PM
yes, like it also very much

Gattberserk
September 29th, 2007, 04:14 PM
Very cool design really, I liked how the cross section of the tower changed from triangular to circular shape.


Beside that it may harbour the world third highest observation deck beside SWFC and RT upon completion


However I suggest once this get built might as well tear down Tokyo tower since it function might been snatch by this giant twice the size

Frankfurter_Bockwurst
September 29th, 2007, 04:39 PM
kinda u g l y

Momo1435
September 29th, 2007, 05:06 PM
However I suggest once this get built might as well tear down Tokyo tower since it function might been snatch by this giant twice the size
They're even adding 100m to the old tower.
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20070923a3.html

The two towers are owned by different companies and there will be some serious competition. And since the old tower is a world famous landmark they won't tear it down.

The new tower is just Tokyo Space Age, snatched right out of a manga, brilliant!

Gattberserk
September 29th, 2007, 05:10 PM
They're even adding 100m to the old tower.
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20070923a3.html

The two towers are owned by different companies and there will be some serious competition. And since the old tower is a world famous landmark they won't tear it down.

The new tower is just Tokyo Space Age, snatched right out of a manga, brilliant!


Wow there will be like a twin supertall TV tower in tokyo, that would be kind of strange? won't it be?



Anyway can let me know what is the manga that inspired this tower?

Momo1435
September 29th, 2007, 05:21 PM
^^
I don't think it's actually inspired by manga, but you never know. It just looks that way, but now I read my post again it's easy to misinterpret my words.

Chad
September 29th, 2007, 05:40 PM
Why dont they just build it, right now.

JACK NAPIER
September 29th, 2007, 06:20 PM
I'm sorry, but this TV antenna should not be in with the supertall thread. This is how a city can cheat in skyscraper construction and design. It's almost as bad as counting the spire on WTC 1... plEase! :nono:

Cristovão471
September 29th, 2007, 06:34 PM
I actually agree with you^^ So many cities are building these 600m towers, the only good one is that one in Guangzhou, because it has some architectual merit, compared to lets say the ones proposed in Manila and Jakarta, which are fugly.

Alweron
September 29th, 2007, 06:38 PM
I don't quite get the idea of these kind of towers. There's no room for anything inside, it's just a tv /radio tower with few observation decks. The hight is impressive, yes, but what's the point? I'd rather like to see them build a real skyscraper building, with some office and hotel space inside. Those look much better.

And how is that world's tallest building anyway?

ZZ-II
September 29th, 2007, 06:40 PM
have to disagree. when you delete the sumida tower from the Supertall-section you also have to delete the Guangzhou TV Tower

Alweron
September 29th, 2007, 06:51 PM
I'm sorry, but this TV antenna should not be in with the supertall thread. This is how a city can cheat in skyscraper construction and design. It's almost as bad as counting the spire on WTC 1... plEase! :nono:

Uhm... Since this tower will be more than 600 meters high, I think it's totally appropriate to put it in this thread, regardless of the fact what the design is like.

JACK NAPIER
September 29th, 2007, 06:51 PM
I actually agree with you^^ So many cities are building these 600m towers, the only good one is that one in Guangzhou, because it has some architectual merit, compared to lets say the ones proposed in Manila and Jakarta, which are fugly.

They all will appear to the majority of people on our little ball floating in space as a skyscraper, but to people who are involved with scrapers understand that it's like calling a moped a motorcycle,... give me a break.

If skyscraper enthusiasts consider this a scraper, we should count the KTHI-TV mast (630 meters) in Traill County, North Dakota as the tallest building on earth now.

JACK NAPIER
September 29th, 2007, 06:53 PM
Uhm... Since this tower will be more than 600 meters high, I think it's totally appropriate to put it in this thread, regardless of the fact what the design is like.

Aleron, take it from a person who lives in the country who invented skyscrapers, this is not a skyscraper. They should make an antenna/TV/Radio thread.

Alweron
September 29th, 2007, 07:05 PM
Aleron, take it from a person who lives in the country who invented skyscrapers, this is not a skyscraper. They should make an antenna/TV/Radio thread.

I understand ur point of view, but it's still okey to put this here IMO. That mast thing u said is half true, but this is so much more. U can actually get in this one, unlike to some mast u mentioned. To me that's the thing that makes the difference between this and some random mast. And the reason I think this way, is that the hight is something I can't really put into perspective since the highest structure I've ever seen irl, is the Eiffel tower.

And btw, it's Alweron, not Aleron :)

Momo1435
September 29th, 2007, 07:05 PM
@JACK NAPIER
Indeed it's a TV tower not a skyscraper.

But that doesn't mean that this thread shouldn't be here, the construction will be as interesting as all the supertall skyscrapers going up right now. And Tokyo is not in competition with any other city, so there's no cheating going on.

And so what if they call it the tallest, it just sounds more sexy in the proposals and only some skyscraper fetishist actually care about it. We know it won't be tallest and that's all we need to know.

JACK NAPIER
September 29th, 2007, 07:21 PM
@JACK NAPIER
Indeed it's a TV tower not a skyscraper.

But that doesn't mean that this thread shouldn't be here, the construction will be as interesting as all the supertall skyscrapers going up right now. And Tokyo is not in competition with any other city, so there's no cheating going on.

And so what if they call it the tallest, it just sounds more sexy in the proposals and only some skyscraper fetishist actually care about it. We know it won't be tallest and that's all we need to know.

I agree we should acknowledge this huge structure, but TV/Radio tower should have their own forum/threads.

sorry ZZ-II

ZZ-II
September 29th, 2007, 07:22 PM
the Sumida tower is no Mast!

Gattberserk
September 30th, 2007, 01:29 AM
the Sumida tower is no Mast!


Haha, sometime I myself is confused between this 2.


Anyone care to explain the main difference that differentiate these 2 category?

Hollie Maea
September 30th, 2007, 01:44 AM
Haha, sometime I myself is confused between this 2.


Anyone care to explain the main difference that differentiate these 2 category?

These towers can hold themselves up. Masts don't have enough structural support so they need wires to hold them up.