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wjfox
May 4th, 2006, 09:08 PM
Crossharbour
Canary Wharf, London

Height: 131m (AGL) / 136m (AOD)
Floors: 43
Architect: Skidmore Owings & Merrill
Developer: Ballymore Properties Ltd


Work is finally starting on this much-delayed residential scheme, which has been talked about since 2001. It will stand just to the south of the main Canary Wharf cluster, near the 50-storey Pan Peninsula Tower which also began work recently.

The project was originally proposed as 6 towers, the tallest being 157m, but was withdrawn. It was proposed a 2nd time, as a single tower of 170m, but this too was cancelled, due to local NIMBYs complaining about the height.

In September last year, a revised plan for a 131m tower was finally given approval.



http://i17.tinypic.com/2nb5xrk.jpg

hella good
May 5th, 2006, 10:32 AM
nice, i wondered what was going on that site for ages now...

wjfox
May 5th, 2006, 02:38 PM
I think it's a very boring and unremarkable design compared to the original 2 schemes proposed. As usual we get a "dumbed down" design thanks to the local NIMBY's.

This was the original scheme, back in 2001.

6 towers, the tallest being 157m/35 storeys:-


http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/88CrossharbourTower4_pic2.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/88CrossharbourTower4_pic1.jpg




This was the next design, which would have been 170m and had 50 storeys, taller than the Heron Quays buildings. Sadly though, it was cut down following complaints from nearby residents. The usual lame excuses - "too tall!" and "out of scale!"
(even though the UK's 3 tallest buildings are just down the road) :|


http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/184CrossharbourBuilding1(design1)_pic1.jpg




The final, approved design. 131m/43 storeys.


http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/177CrossharbourBuilding1(design2)_pic1.jpg

Gerard
May 5th, 2006, 02:46 PM
Nice buidling still.
The floor to floor height seems very little with this buidling with 131 meters for 43 floors.
Compared to the 50 floor within 170 meters.
They probably had to cut the floor to floor height to get it within the height limits or something like that ??

Sonic from Padova
May 5th, 2006, 02:52 PM
Great project for the Docklands!

tigermike
May 5th, 2006, 05:15 PM
I don't know about the Pan Peninsula building...please tell me someone

DrasQue
May 5th, 2006, 05:22 PM
Nothing special

NothingBetterToDo
May 5th, 2006, 08:25 PM
Dumb NIMBY's..........how can they complain the original design was too tall when they already live in the shawdow of the tallest skyscrapers in the UK??

wjfox
May 5th, 2006, 09:23 PM
I don't know about the Pan Peninsula building...please tell me someone
This is Pan Peninsula, the other tower being built nearby. Looks much better than Crossharbour imo.

Height is 147m/50 storeys, and it started construction a few months back:-


http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/107PanPeninsulaTower_pic3.jpg


http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/107PanPeninsulaTower_pic2.jpg


http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/107PanPeninsulaTower_pic1.jpg






Here's a recent pic of the Pan Peninsula site. The Crossharbour Tower will stand in the background, to the right of that blue groundscraper:-


http://static.flickr.com/47/130949703_35ae90f8e2_b.jpg




http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=107

wjfox
May 6th, 2006, 01:57 PM
I don't know about the Pan Peninsula building...please tell me someone
I made a thread here:- http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=8350348

Newcastle Guy
May 6th, 2006, 06:54 PM
Nothing special

No it isnt, I like it though, it will expand the CW cluster along with PP. The Shard will put this and everything else in the UK- and maybe even europe in the dark when it starts! :cheers:

Zim Flyer
May 6th, 2006, 07:33 PM
Dumb NIMBY's..........how can they complain the original design was too tall when they already live in the shawdow of the tallest skyscrapers in the UK??


Totally agree, if ever there is a right place for a skyscraper it's Canary Wharf.

tigermike
May 8th, 2006, 08:11 AM
I made a thread here:- http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=8350348
thanks mate

Muse
May 8th, 2006, 08:52 AM
This is a bit of a step away from most SOM in-house archtect's designs. 99% are smooth-skinned glass edifices. Understandably, residential towers come with balconies though lol

Agent Vengence
May 8th, 2006, 10:22 AM
The second design, which had the tallest tower would have been sweet.

Muse
May 8th, 2006, 11:46 AM
The second design, which had the tallest tower would have been sweet.Agreed. http://www.sayhey.co.uk/invboard/html/emoticons/thumbsup.gif

wjfox
May 17th, 2006, 07:43 PM
Demolition underway -


http://www.tvaerials.net/images/london_arena160506.jpg

London_guy
May 17th, 2006, 09:39 PM
Don't they use those big steel bowl shaped balls to demolish anymore? :ancient:

Agent Vengence
May 19th, 2006, 12:59 PM
Raise that guff to the ground fellas :righton:

ferge
May 19th, 2006, 03:17 PM
Great, the city yet again suffers to Nimby's, and has to resort to a clumbsy, stubby and overall banal design instead of that nice, elegent 170m design.. pathetic.. Ah well, least somets bein built..

Mplsuptown
May 19th, 2006, 03:23 PM
I like the first proposal best, I think it's the curve in the building that I liked. If given a choice between proposal 2 or 3, I'd have to go with the 3. London is rock'n.

Newcastle Guy
May 23rd, 2006, 11:05 PM
The tower seems to have a spire that takes it up to about 140m-145m

wjfox
May 23rd, 2006, 11:08 PM
There is no spire.

forvine
May 24th, 2006, 12:57 AM
Canary Wharf sure is getting some nice apartment tower :okay:

wjfox
August 12th, 2006, 11:40 PM
Latest pic, from SE9.

The whole site is almost totally cleared now.


http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/591/dsc06503ex3.jpg

Indyman
August 12th, 2006, 11:44 PM
I love Canary Wharf's skyline because it is so clean cut and organized.

london lad
August 13th, 2006, 02:42 AM
I love Canary Wharf's skyline because it is so clean cut and organized.

Lol -I dont particuarly like it for those exact same reasons. Each to there own I suppose.

A curve or two in the canary wharf would do wonders to the place instead of every building seemly designed with a pencil & a ruler.

wjfox
August 13th, 2006, 03:09 AM
Lol -I dont particuarly like it for those exact same reasons.
Yeah, same here :)



A curve or two in the canary wharf would do wonders to the place instead of every building seemly designed with a pencil & a ruler.
Yeah, totally. Just look at the effect the Ontario Tower is having. Not really tall enough for its own separate thread here in the World Forums, but worth a quick mention here -




http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Pictures/ontpan3.jpg


(for those who can't immediately spot it, it's the midrise u/c to the right of HSBC!)

european
August 13th, 2006, 06:27 PM
^^ Wow, CW looks huge in that pic.

wjfox
October 23rd, 2006, 07:45 PM
Site clearance is almost finished. Thanks to SE9 for these -



http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/718/dsc072751uk4.jpg

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/2970/dsc07280fl2.jpg

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/4695/dsc07281se5.jpg

DocShergar
October 23rd, 2006, 10:18 PM
Cheers wjfox for posting update

megatower
October 24th, 2006, 12:34 AM
when is the dead line for the foundation to be put down? and what is the final design they picked that they are going to build ?

storms991
October 24th, 2006, 03:57 AM
looks good :D

earth intruder
October 24th, 2006, 11:36 AM
looks really nice! i like it!

gamma_ray_burst
October 24th, 2006, 02:42 PM
CW will look very impressive in a dozen of years

rocky
October 24th, 2006, 07:05 PM
i love it but, damm nimbies :banned:

andy_wakey
October 25th, 2006, 01:36 AM
Looks good, i prefer it to Pan Peninsula

LLoydGeorge
October 25th, 2006, 05:07 AM
It's odd that the new buildings in The City are nice, and yet the ones in CW are shite.

SE9
October 26th, 2006, 06:53 PM
when is the dead line for the foundation to be put down? and what is the final design they picked that they are going to build ?

This was the design chosen:

http://skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/177CrossharbourBuilding1(design2)_pic1.jpg

jef
December 16th, 2006, 02:39 PM
Minor revisions to the design submitted for pa.
Development is u/c

http://i17.tinypic.com/2nb5xrk.jpg

View from Canary Wharf:

http://i16.tinypic.com/2v9u7mb.jpg

Main skyscrapers u/c or about to start construction in Canary Wharf, except Columbus Tower (2).
9 is Riverside South (offices)
3 is Marsh Wall (residential)
4 is Arrowhead quay
5 is Pan Peninsula
1 is Crossharbour
7 is Ability Plc
10 is Fidelity



http://i11.tinypic.com/2i03ald.jpg

DocShergar
December 16th, 2006, 05:57 PM
Thanks for the update Jef

Jamandell (d69)
December 16th, 2006, 06:50 PM
New design looking much better than the old one. Very blue looking glass (which I love), and it looks smoother and sexier :D

eng_kheffa
December 16th, 2006, 07:02 PM
ordinary but attractive

wjfox
December 21st, 2006, 01:40 PM
Posted by SE9 -

(PLEASE NOTE: The cores in the background are for a separate pair of towers, the Pan Peninsula Towers (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=347260) :) )


http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/4077/dsc07828mr8.jpg

jef
December 21st, 2006, 02:49 PM
very much like this view :)

mdz
December 21st, 2006, 02:58 PM
Posted by SE9 -

(PLEASE NOTE: The cores in the background are for a separate pair of towers, the Pan Peninsula Towers (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=347260) :) )


http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/4077/dsc07828mr8.jpg

Could someone please tell me what's that construction in the background?? :?

wjfox
December 21st, 2006, 03:14 PM
Could someone please tell me what's that construction in the background?? :?

I already told you.

Heck, I even posted in BLOCK CAPITALS and provided a link so you wouldn't miss it. ;)

DocShergar
December 21st, 2006, 03:33 PM
Could someone please tell me what's that construction in the background?? :?

:lol: :doh: :ohno:

Cunning Linguist
December 21st, 2006, 04:41 PM
anyone know what those two cores are in the background?

A link would also be useful!

DocShergar
December 21st, 2006, 05:07 PM
anyone know what those two cores are in the background?

A link would also be useful!

^^ I hope you are just being sarcastic!! :)

Cunning Linguist
December 21st, 2006, 06:12 PM
http://forum.football365.com/images/smiley_icons/ninja.gif

wjfox
March 21st, 2007, 06:33 PM
Not much progress unfortunately... they're taking their time with this one.

http://i3.tinypic.com/48zl53p.jpg

Saigoneseguy
March 21st, 2007, 07:31 PM
Wow, it's massive! But does it mean the Chinese boat restaurant will be wiped out?

Ralphkke
May 1st, 2007, 11:44 AM
And again a great new tower in London!

Agent Vengence
May 1st, 2007, 02:38 PM
so what are the towers being built in the background? ;)

Mr Bricks
May 1st, 2007, 10:01 PM
Wow, it's massive! But does it mean the Chinese boat restaurant will be wiped out?

Hopefully not.

Sentient Seas
May 1st, 2007, 11:40 PM
Looks like a great project, though I liked the older renders a little better.

wjfox
June 23rd, 2007, 06:08 PM
First crane is now on site. In the background you can see the Pan Peninsula Towers (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=347260), also being developed by Ballymore -


http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Pictures/A.jpg

(pic by Chest)

Luke
June 23rd, 2007, 10:23 PM
Nice. What's the white building being built in the background?

Sbz2ifc
June 24th, 2007, 12:13 PM
^^
:rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl:

chest
July 14th, 2007, 09:29 PM
3 cranes up with 3 more about to rise - it looks as though the whole development will be under way as the cranes are spread across the site - I think the tower crane is to the far left (north) and has just started to rise


http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Pictures/c.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Pictures/d.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Pictures/e.jpg

Jim856796
July 21st, 2007, 06:07 PM
Was the London Arena one of the worst sports venues in London?

Holland
July 21st, 2007, 07:32 PM
Nice architecture, but it gives the affect of just a huge wall along the waterfront, which is so unnecessary. Could the architect not have broken up the podium/base building a little bit?

wjfox
July 21st, 2007, 08:06 PM
Nice architecture, but it gives the affect of just a huge wall along the waterfront, which is so unnecessary. Could the architect not have broken up the podium/base building a little bit?

Well, the original scheme was far more attractive. It consisted of 6 towers with varying heights (tallest 157m), but was cancelled -


http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/88CrossharbourTower4_pic2.jpg


http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/88CrossharbourTower4_pic1.jpg


http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/517CrossharbourTower3_pic1.jpg


http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/492CrossharbourTower5_pic1.jpg

Tubeman
July 22nd, 2007, 11:16 AM
^^
Yes it was a crying shame... I loved the original scheme. It was rejected by Tower Hamlets for being too 'dense', and yet they approved the current scheme which is essentially two giant slabs: one upright and one lying down.

Chad
July 22nd, 2007, 01:39 PM
But what they are building is about as good! :)

AngrySlob
July 22nd, 2007, 07:41 PM
This is one of the few developments where I prefer the cut down version. There is something about the long building next to the tower (which is very nice itself) that looks very British to me. I just get this image in my head of looking over the water front on some grey rainy day and it still looking great. I love it.

Myster E
July 22nd, 2007, 08:55 PM
what do you mean very British?

wjfox
July 29th, 2007, 12:45 PM
Wartime bomb found near Canary Wharf

LONDON (Reuters) - Police closed streets near Canary Wharf on Saturday after an unexploded German flying bomb from World War Two was found on a construction site.

Bomb disposal experts were called in to make the V1 missile safe after it was unearthed close to the complex that houses 80,000 office workers during the working week, police said. At weekends the area is busy with shoppers and visitors.

Police closed several roads around the site in Millharbour, a road in the former docklands.

"Ambulance, fire and police are there and the building site has been evacuated," a police spokesman said. The area was cordoned off, he said.

Thousands of V1s, nicknamed "Doodlebugs", were fired at the capital during the war, with the docks a prime target.

Hundreds of unexploded bombs from the war are buried across the country, according to government figures. They are unearthed from time to time, often during building excavations.

Canary Wharf's tenants include Bank of America, Barclays, Citigroup, HSBC, the Independent and Reuters.



http://i10.tinypic.com/505ifb6.jpg

MaZitRon
July 29th, 2007, 05:04 PM
It needs to be built in Miami, instead of in London!
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/517CrossharbourTower3_pic1.jpg

eddie88
July 29th, 2007, 05:51 PM
ace building!

wjfox
July 29th, 2007, 05:55 PM
That's the old design...

this is what they're building now -


http://i17.tinypic.com/2nb5xrk.jpg

AngrySlob
July 29th, 2007, 06:17 PM
what do you mean very British?

I mean to me it kind of looks like, in the picture posted above for example, a sort of modern take on a British council block. I really like it, which is bizarre because I hate council blocks.

rugbytommy
July 29th, 2007, 07:14 PM
it's true , it does look very Brititsh . Resembles the developments by Brood Street in Birmingham .

wjfox
August 21st, 2007, 08:14 PM
Core is now rising. Thanks to Chest for these.


http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Pictures/BT.jpg


http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Pictures/BT2.jpg


http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Pictures/BT3.jpg


http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Pictures/BT4.jpg


http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Pictures/BT5.jpg

Myster E
August 21st, 2007, 09:13 PM
it's true , it does look very Brititsh . Resembles the developments by Brood Street in Birmingham .


It's Broad Street :) I'm probably the only one who prefers this to the original scheme.

Its AlL gUUd
August 22nd, 2007, 02:11 AM
glad to see it rising

PFarrey
January 26th, 2008, 11:23 PM
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8585/ch11280x768eg9.jpg
By pfarrey (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/pfarrey), shot with DSC-W90 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=DSC-W90&make=SONY) at 2008-01-26

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/3975/ch31280x768pr0.th.jpg (http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ch31280x768pr0.jpg)http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2716/ch21280x768xl3.th.jpg (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ch21280x768xl3.jpg)

Comfortably Numb
January 27th, 2008, 04:08 AM
I like it, but I prefer the original design (more 'curvy', less boxy). It doesn't look bad though and appears to look better @ night, when it's all lit up.

Kailyas
January 28th, 2008, 07:50 AM
great building

Newcastle Guy
March 28th, 2008, 01:05 AM
The tower has had a slight redesign...

http://i32.tinypic.com/ig9qjd.jpg
http://i29.tinypic.com/1hyvc2.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/zjf5ns.jpg
http://i31.tinypic.com/30u9xrb.jpg

Public Restaurant on 43 & 44 floor, and a height increase to 149.2m. Better than the first IMO.

:)

Madman
March 28th, 2008, 01:25 AM
Yeah only minor redesign, I doubt they'll need to submit to planning, probably just bung in some drawings to Building Regs ;)

This tower is a conceptual bolt out of the blue, I wonder what was the driver behind it - actually looking at it, not only is it taller but also wider...hmm very crafty developer trying to distract increase in size with funkier design me thinks (not that I am complaining :))

Newcastle Guy
March 28th, 2008, 02:08 AM
Anyone for more renderoids?:)

http://www.magix-photos.com/mediapool21/54/48/6F/30/77/16/11/DA/85/15/20/23/52/27/29/83/oma/10/588EEC10FC5A11DC90FFD67452273AB1.jpg

http://www.magix-photos.com/mediapool21/54/48/6F/30/77/16/11/DA/85/15/20/23/52/27/29/83/oma/10/58286210FC5A11DCBC380CA352273AB1.jpg

http://www.magix-photos.com/mediapool21/54/48/6F/30/77/16/11/DA/85/15/20/23/52/27/29/83/oma/10/5C9495D0FC5A11DC9533FA9252273AB1.jpg

http://www.magix-photos.com/mediapool21/54/48/6F/30/77/16/11/DA/85/15/20/23/52/27/29/83/oma/10/57A3A1B0FC5A11DCA84621AB52273AB1.jpg

http://www.magix-photos.com/mediapool21/54/48/6F/30/77/16/11/DA/85/15/20/23/52/27/29/83/oma/10/5A59C100FC5A11DCAB15BD1552273AB1.jpg

http://www.magix-photos.com/mediapool21/54/48/6F/30/77/16/11/DA/85/15/20/23/52/27/29/83/oma/10/59AF7740FC5A11DCBD38330A52273AB1.jpg

http://www.magix-photos.com/mediapool21/54/48/6F/30/77/16/11/DA/85/15/20/23/52/27/29/83/oma/10/590F3FA0FC5A11DC86EAD7BB52273AB1.jpg

http://www.magix-photos.com/mediapool21/54/48/6F/30/77/16/11/DA/85/15/20/23/52/27/29/83/oma/10/5B1548D0FC5A11DCA4B91D0452273AB1.jpg

http://www.magix-photos.com/mediapool21/54/48/6F/30/77/16/11/DA/85/15/20/23/52/27/29/83/oma/10/5C10BFD0FC5A11DC86E589E852273AB1.jpg

http://www.magix-photos.com/mediapool21/54/48/6F/30/77/16/11/DA/85/15/20/23/52/27/29/83/oma/10/5C5235A0FC5A11DC8D21BED052273AB1.jpg

Jamandell (d69)
March 28th, 2008, 02:19 AM
This is unbelievable...

Newcastle Guy
March 28th, 2008, 02:30 AM
Compared to what we are used to in the Wharf, yes, yes it is:)

Skabbymuff
March 28th, 2008, 02:36 AM
wow, this is amazing! more variety here will be great, i hope this turns out to be, i like this building :)

Gherkin
March 29th, 2008, 01:07 AM
A curvey and twisty tower for the Wharf!? A curvey one would have done :happy: Those renders are awesome.

Tony Resta
March 29th, 2008, 12:23 PM
What an awesome design, compared to how it used to be, it's really amazing, when at the last minute, designs can be changed dramaticaly.

Newcastle Guy
March 29th, 2008, 09:36 PM
Apparently if this secures planning permission, it should start in November, if market conditions allow it.

NothingBetterToDo
March 30th, 2008, 03:53 AM
Bloody hell - why did i not spot this in the UK section???? :dunno:

wow, this is amazing....do my eyes decieve me? Some curves? at the wharf???....i love it. It will be Canary Wharf's Turning Torso :happy:

Stairz
October 16th, 2010, 01:25 PM
i'm told it looks like some of the signs might be coming down in the marketing suite, like they're abandoning ship on this one. might mean nothing, but there you go.