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wjfox
May 5th, 2006, 08:42 AM
Work has now begun on the next set of Churchill Place buildings around the Barclays headquarters, after they were let to the big firms Aon and State Street.

These won't be very tall, but they will contain vast amounts of floorspace and will add quite a bit of density to the area. Plus when they're finished, the next buildings in line to go up will almost certainly be Riverside South. So I guess these are the Dockland's equivalent of 'More London'.


http://www.canarywharf.com/mainFrm1.asp?strSelectedSubmenu=Buildings&strSelectedArea=Estate

http://i14.tinypic.com/4r26qfm.jpg

Fragmentor
May 5th, 2006, 08:47 AM
20, 10 or 5, or all of them?

eXSBass
May 5th, 2006, 08:55 AM
ANOTHER CONSTRUCTION THREAD :D

london lad
May 5th, 2006, 09:31 AM
20, 10 or 5, or all of them?

Definatley 20CP for state st. Im not sure if Aon has been confirmed yet or if 10CP is also being built now- I'm sure it was mentioned a while back on here or in the wharf newspaper that 10CP was also being built at the same time as 20CP but I canny not remember.

http://www.canarywharfoffices.com/pdf/state_street.pdf

wjfox
May 5th, 2006, 10:48 AM
ANOTHER CONSTRUCTION THREAD :D
3 new ones in the last week, not bad eh :)

JDRS
May 5th, 2006, 07:38 PM
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Mr Bricks
May 5th, 2006, 08:18 PM
Renders please?

eXSBass
May 5th, 2006, 09:07 PM
So hold your boat. In that neat little diagram, which ones are they?

mulattokid
May 5th, 2006, 09:10 PM
Please do tell...we cant remember what they looked like and they have been re-designed.

jef
May 5th, 2006, 11:18 PM
the site as of January 2006. Pic taken by Manuel:

http://i3.tinypic.com/xaovoy.jpg

Lance
May 5th, 2006, 11:51 PM
I believe they are the 3 to the bottom left of the Barclays building. There's the big bulky building and then the 2 little ones by the roundabout.

london lad
May 6th, 2006, 02:39 AM
I found the canarywharf website slightly puzzling

http://www.canarywharfoffices.com/
click on avaliable space & it shows most of bank st & 15 canada square & 5CP


Now we know State st have 20 CP & Aon more or less 10 CP which is why I presume they arn't listed here as avaliable space- BUT theres no mention of RS anywhere on this website even though its got full planning permission & we know KPMG are looking for a quite substantial 400,000sq ft

http://www.canarywharf.com/mainFrm1.asp?strSelectedArea=News

So is that just wishful thinking or could they be more to it hmmm

Fragmentor
May 6th, 2006, 08:49 AM
The opening picture on that site looks amazing

Manuel
May 6th, 2006, 08:54 AM
@Jeff
It's not my picture!!!! :)

jef
May 6th, 2006, 10:04 AM
@Jeff
It's not my picture!!!! :)

Oups, sorry, maybe it is Brunob then.

rickster2k
May 6th, 2006, 10:36 AM
Im presuming this is the site where I saw a render a while back of the new rumored KPMG mid-rise, i think it was that smaller triangular building wedged in between the other two.

Oposite Churchill Place (Barclays) would have been ideal for something taller, but if it pushes forward Riverside South and North Quay then i suppose thats not too bad, and as mentioned it does bulk up the area a bit.

jef
May 6th, 2006, 10:45 AM
I found the canarywharf website slightly puzzling ... theres no mention of RS anywhere on this website even though its got full planning permission & we know KPMG are looking for a quite substantial 400,000sq ft. So is that just wishful thinking or could they be more to it hmmm

I do not think so. Knight Frank reported last week in their Central London Quarterly Q1 2006 that KPMG is in talks for pre-letting 15 Canada Square.

jef
May 6th, 2006, 10:49 AM
Oposite Churchill Place (Barclays) would have been ideal for something taller

Two towers are planned at Wood Wharf.

http://i2.tinypic.com/xbia9t.jpg

brunob
May 6th, 2006, 10:55 AM
hmm... never thought of my pics ending up on tinypic!
awright, i'll go sometimes this week to snap a few shots of the site so we can all see what goes on there.

eXSBass
May 6th, 2006, 11:34 AM
How tall are the Wood Wharf towers?

jef
May 6th, 2006, 11:37 AM
150m. construction due to start in 2008.

jef
May 6th, 2006, 11:41 AM
Another pic taken by Bruno last January http://i3.tinypic.com/xbira0.jpg

wjfox
May 6th, 2006, 11:43 AM
How tall are the Wood Wharf towers?
140m

london lad
May 6th, 2006, 12:13 PM
150m. construction due to start in 2008.

The residential towers should be in for planning first (along with an ammended Rogers designed masterplan) in the 2nd half of this year with the other phases to follow. Cant see the office towers going up in 2008 to be honest as it would take about 6 months at least to get the master plan & resi's to get planning, then theres the actual groundworks for the whole site & reconfiguration of the dock.

Plus CW are partners in this & they wont build the office towers without pre-lets esp with there pipeline in CW already. I wish British waterways choose British Land instead of Ballymore/CW in the final round- we might have seen wood wharf start a whole lot earlier & would've injected a bit of competition in the area & probably better designed buildings to with BL onboard. I just hope we dont get anymore bland towers which we already have in CW.

Fragmentor
May 6th, 2006, 12:37 PM
British Land should do everything, they just seem to accept such higher standards

jef
May 6th, 2006, 02:53 PM
Renders please?

http://i3.tinypic.com/xblsgh.jpg

Not sure. To be confirmed.

london lad
May 6th, 2006, 03:36 PM
I saw a pic of State Sts HQ the other week- Maybe in estates gazette- Its different to the images above- looked alright- it was more a straight box shape with glass cladding- no fins on the top floor or corners cut into like those in the pic above.

Luke
May 6th, 2006, 07:39 PM
I saw a pic of State Sts HQ the other week- Maybe in estates gazette- Its different to the images above- looked alright- it was more a straight box shape with glass cladding- no fins on the top floor or corners cut into like those in the pic above.

Yeah, I saw that rendering to. I think discribing it as 'alright' is a bit charitable however. It looked like a big glass shoe box with a State Street sign slapped on the top corner. It had all the innovation and imagination we have come to expect from Canary Wharf.

dom
May 6th, 2006, 11:58 PM
Yes, very disappointing. In some ways I wish Canary Wharf would never get any more tenants. It is quite obvious that AON, State Street and KPMG are just after boring modernist glass boxes. Yawn.

Between them they are taking over a million square feet by the way. That would have been enough space to get Minerva started, 122 Leadenhall under way a bit pre let for the Bishopsgate tower. And all we are getting from Canary Wharf is 3 buildings that could be built anywhere with no character and minimal imagination and thought put into them.

I don't know why people rate Cesar Pelli so highly... his buildings are so boring. Look at his terrible Bank Street dross (esp. Lehman Brothers) and Citigroup.

jef
May 7th, 2006, 12:43 AM
Could anyone post that new rendering please?

jef
June 17th, 2006, 08:19 PM
photos taken by Bruno and posted on the excellent French forum dedicated to London:

Piling of the State Street new HQ building at 20 Churchill Place (71m) and the neighbouring 10 Churchill Place (71m) has now commenced:

http://i5.tinypic.com/14npmr4.jpg

The view from New Providence Wharf (Ontario Tower). The crane is now in place.

We can also see the crane for Pan-Peninsula in the background, and to the left, the crane of the adjacent residential development (22 storeys) at Millharbour.

http://i6.tinypic.com/14npt3c.jpg

Mikey
June 17th, 2006, 11:11 PM
Yes there are lots of cranes going up!! there are now two at this site.

hella good
June 18th, 2006, 09:13 AM
5 churchill place:

http://www.canarywharfoffices.com/gallery/15canada/1.jpg

http://www.canarywharfoffices.com/gallery/15canada/2.jpg

http://www.canarywharfoffices.com/gallery/15canada/3.jpg

15 canada square:

http://www.canarywharfoffices.com/gallery/5churchill/1.jpg

jef
June 18th, 2006, 10:18 AM
5 Churchill Place is not u/c.

SE9
June 18th, 2006, 11:01 AM
Even though its small, it'll do well to fill some of the gap between Barclays and the main C Wharf Cluster (when viewed from Greenwich)

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4835/cwharf6kq.jpg

Well here's a picture of the site (or at least I think it is), I took around Jan:

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/1553/dsc027473cj.jpg

GazKinz
June 18th, 2006, 04:47 PM
5 Churchill place looks quite nice, so glad it's not another glass clad building

wjfox
June 18th, 2006, 04:57 PM
I agree those renderings are actually quite nice. Is that the actual final design though...?

jimbo
June 18th, 2006, 07:10 PM
none of them are particularly bad looking. Since Barclays finished a couple of years back there really hasn't been much going on in CW. These will get things going, and as SE9 says, will provide a few decent midrises to complement the 3 200m+ towers.

With all the good news in the city, just need CW to start taking seriously about Riverside South - now that would be great news.

ferge
June 18th, 2006, 07:13 PM
I have to agree, I do like the design of 5CP.. and nice to have something within context to the neighbouring buildings of the similiar heights rather than a stumpy glass design..Not too sure on the other project still..

JDRS
June 19th, 2006, 12:29 PM
5 Churchill Place actually looks quite attractive - probably because it's not a glass box.

Any date for that one to start?

SE9
June 20th, 2006, 06:09 PM
Here is the site today... lots of activity:

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5360/pano23ia.jpg

Skid-Mark
June 21st, 2006, 08:42 AM
Decent size cranes, wasn't the max height of these around 70m?

SE9
June 21st, 2006, 08:45 AM
I think so. This photo may give you a better indication on the size of the cranes:

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3227/dsc0566011ig.jpg

Skid-Mark
June 21st, 2006, 09:10 AM
Crikey that was deceptive, makes you appreciate the size of the main towers.

london lad
July 10th, 2006, 11:44 AM
Bit of news on this area- Bear Sterns might be taking 5CP. Also confirms that KPMG are in talks for 400,000sq ft which is still presumably the last site on canada square.

Shame Aon pulled out of taking the other building at CP as then it would leave RS next on the list. Theres a bit of worrying news as well with regard RS as they are in talks with architects to come up with other proposals for the site- Although it does say they are still looking for a pre-let for the Rogers RS scheme. Hopefully it will come sooner rather than later if all these pre-lets come to fruition.

from property week.....

Canary Wharf Group has had a bumper week with around 350,000 sq ft (32,516 sq m) of lettings on its London Docklands estate.

Investment bank Bear Stearns is in talks to take most of the proposed office tower at 5 Churchill Place on Canary Wharf.

Bear Stearns has entered into advanced discussions to take more than 200,000 sq ft (18,580 sq m) at the proposed 300,000 sq ft (27,871 sq m) building.

The bank is negotiating a rent that is understood to be around £35/sq ft (£376.74/sq m) on the prelet.

The agreement comes in the same week that Canary Wharf agreed more than 130,000 sq ft (12,077 sq m) of lettings to banks Barclays and Saxo, professional services firm Alvarez & Marsal, risk management firm Diligence and educational body the CFA Institute.

Bear Stearns has already agreed to take a short-term letting in its existing building at 1 Canada Square on floors 25 and 50.

The US investment bank now occupies more than 80,000 sq ft (7,432 sq m) at Canary Wharf but plans to expand in the next few years.

CB Richard Ellis is advising Bear Stearns; CBRE and Knight Frank advise Canary Wharf.

No one would comment on the letting.

Although Canary Wharf has had a successful year in terms of lettings, it suffered a setback when insurance group Aon pulled out of a deal to take a 255,000 sq ft (23,690 sq m) headquarters at 10 Churchill Place, E14, earlier this year. Financial services firm Thomson also pulled out of a prelet.

But two other prelets are going ahead. State Street is taking around 350,000 sq ft (32,516 sq m) and KPMG is in exclusive negotiations for around 400,000 sq ft (37,160 sq m).

The news of further lettings success comes as Canary Wharf considers reducing the amount of office development by looking at other options for the Sir Richard Rogers-designed 1.7m sq ft (157,934 sq m) office scheme at Riverside South.

Canary Wharf is talking to architects about potentially reconfiguring the design for Riverside. The company is understood to be looking at whether to convert the 6.2 acre (2.5 ha) scheme into a residential-led development, which could also include hotels and further leisure facilities for the estate.

It comes as residential values continue to exceed those of commercial and more office space is planned at neighbouring schemes such as Wood Wharf and the 3.5m sq ft (325,158 sq m) Greenwich Peninsula.

The original Riverside proposals are believed to still be in the frame, however, and Canary Wharf continues to look for an office prelet there.

wjfox
July 10th, 2006, 12:04 PM
The company is understood to be looking at whether to convert the 6.2 acre (2.5 ha) scheme into a residential-led development, which could also include hotels and further leisure facilities for the estate.

Interesting...!

Wonder what sort of timescale this would involve though. And would it involve a height reduction?

jef
July 10th, 2006, 12:35 PM
Thanks London Lad.

Hopefully the deal of KPMG at 15 CS and Bear Stearns at 5 CP (or 10 CP?which is 300,000 sqft) will be successfully concluded in late 2006.

The article mentions that 5 CP is a 300,000 sq ft development. This is not correct: 5 CP is a 225,000 sq ft building.

None of us would be surprised that RS is considered to be reconfigured. It is simply too large under its present form: 243,000 sqm of offices - the largest office development in Europe. There is nobody on the market with such a large requirement (or even a third of it).

If it is reconfigured, I believe it will be a mixture of residential and offices (otherwise, CW will be only left with North Quay which has conditional pp).

I am afraid we will loose some height. But it must be tall because that precisely what makes the attractiveness of any residential schemes in the area. I hope it will be substantially taller than 150m.

london lad
July 10th, 2006, 12:54 PM
Just found this report from last August- I do hope if they do go for another scheme that they go for something of a similar height to RS- they already have plannign for a tall building so they may as well go for something of a similar height.


A flagship commercial scheme by the Richard Rogers Partnership in London’s Canary Wharf was placed in doubt this week when details of a new competition for the site emerged.

26 August, 2005

David Chipperfield Architects, Allies & Morrison, HOK, Ian Simpson, Woods Bagot and RRP itself are on the shortlist for a large mixed-use scheme for the Canary Wharf Group at the prized Riverside South site on the western edge of the estate.

The contest raises questions about the future of an existing 270,000sq m office and retail scheme for the site by RRP, comprising two large stepped skyscrapers connected by a smaller central building, which won planning last September.

The larger tower was set to be the second highest building in the estate after One Canada Square. Last year chief executive of the Canary Wharf Group George Iacobescu hailed the RRP scheme as the first in a “new generation of buildings” for the area.

An RRP spokesman said: “Canary Wharf Group is an alternative development. It still has planning permission on our scheme.”

A spokesperson for Canary Wharf said: “We are considering a number of alternative options to our office scheme and have asked several architects for ideas, but no decision on whether or how to proceed has been taken.”

mulattokid
July 10th, 2006, 03:56 PM
This could be the site for our tallest residential tower (even taller than Beetham, southwark) , as it already has permission for a building over 200m.

wjfox
July 10th, 2006, 04:51 PM
If it's residential the floor count would be much higher too.

Instead of 40 storeys, we might get 70+ storeys.

Cat man do
July 10th, 2006, 05:23 PM
Riverside South was blandified to an extent that I would not be too sad to see it replaced by some good soaring residentials. Which in any case help make the place more attractive for occupiers and increase the probablity of new buildings elsewhere on site.

Bob
July 10th, 2006, 05:30 PM
I agree, I can take or leave the current design.

Don't get your hopes up too much though.

The original Riverside proposals are believed to still be in the frame, however, and Canary Wharf continues to look for an office prelet there.

The original proposal was a mirror of that on the other side of westferry circus.

I think they would go higher than that, but as high as the current office scheme? Unlikely. I look forward to being proved wrong - it's a superb site for a high residential, and is not in the the city airport emergency flight path. Someone should phone Donald Trump.

Pagwilliams
July 10th, 2006, 06:52 PM
If they re-design they should do more with the location - more open space...a nice restaurant lined garden along the river would be fab!!

delores
July 11th, 2006, 12:54 AM
5 churchill place seems to of been designed in the eighties, haven't we progressed somewhat since then? obviously not in canary wharfs eyes...

eXSBass
July 29th, 2006, 11:09 PM
Updates 29-07-06:

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/2059/docklandsconstruction026mediumka2.jpg


http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/5236/docklandsconstruction027mediumzh5.jpg


http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/8149/docklandsconstruction028mediumlk8.jpg

jef
July 30th, 2006, 10:37 AM
Thanks for this excellent update of the new State Street HQ, Exbass.

John Packer Associates (Building Services Engineers and Sustainable Design consultants) is acting for KPMG, in the procurement of their new HQ Building at 15 Canada Square.

KPMG require that the building should be an exemplar of energy efficiency and sustainability.

Good.

SE9
August 7th, 2006, 10:00 PM
The core at the far end is rising:

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/8824/dsc06377sc3.jpg

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/7122/dsc06375yq1.jpg

Skid-Mark
August 7th, 2006, 11:24 PM
Good update se9, they really don't hang about on the wharf do they!

SE9
August 8th, 2006, 09:20 AM
Nope...

In yesterday's 'The Wharf' newspaper, they were proudly showcasing their ongoing projects, whilst blasting the City for losing Minerva. The article started:

"Plans for a prestigious skyscraper in central London to compete with the dizzying heights of Canary Wharf have been shelved." (talking about Minerva)

They then continue by listing the companies that are/have moved to the Wharf, and finish by claiming that C.Wharf is cementing its place as the prime location for international business.

mulattokid
August 8th, 2006, 11:34 AM
Nope...

In yesterday's 'The Wharf' newspaper, they were proudly showcasing their ongoing projects, whilst blasting the City for losing Minerva. The article started:

"Plans for a prestigious skyscraper in central London to compete with the dizzying heights of Canary Wharf have been shelved." (talking about Minerva)

They then continue by listing the companies that are/have moved to the Wharf, and finish by claiming that C.Wharf is cementing its place as the prime location for international business.

The city has messed up big time and knows it (althought there is probably not a lot they could have done about Minerva) for us Skyscraper fans this could lead to a battle and the City REALLY pulling the stops out in future.....well done The Wharf! (and thanks SE9)

SE9
August 18th, 2006, 04:37 AM
Core's rising nicely:

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5991/dsc06604oy9.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6497/dsc06605qs8.jpg

Madman
August 18th, 2006, 08:42 AM
Wow thats quick, a core already... shame they cant get off they're arse for RS yet.

london lad
August 18th, 2006, 08:59 AM
Theres a pic of 10 CP on this website- go to -avaliable space- looks like 5/10 & 20cp are all glass walled boxes then.

http://www.canarywharfoffices.com/

Dan1987
August 18th, 2006, 12:46 PM
That core has risen alot in 10 days! :eek:

wjfox
August 18th, 2006, 12:47 PM
When are these buildings due for completion?

jef
August 18th, 2006, 05:30 PM
I think State Street and Bear Stearns will take occupation in summer 2009.

Thanks SE9.

jef
August 18th, 2006, 05:36 PM
I see CWC is building 20 CP. I remember having seen somewhere a couple of days ago that Canary Wharf Contractors has also won the contract to build the Crossharbour residential tower.

SE9
August 22nd, 2006, 07:27 PM
Would that ensure a similarly fast construction, or is it all determined by quality?:

(Today)

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/1333/dsc06804lm6.jpg

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7038/dsc06805xl7.jpg

jef
August 22nd, 2006, 07:41 PM
Simply less talk and more action in CW than in the City...

mulattokid
August 23rd, 2006, 12:19 AM
Would that ensure a similarly fast construction, or is it all determined by quality?:

(Today)

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/1333/dsc06804lm6.jpg

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7038/dsc06805xl7.jpg

Isnt it great that you can see the size of the significant ground floor lobby and two, or mezanine basement levels in those shots?

eXSBass
August 23rd, 2006, 12:26 AM
Simply less talk and more action in CW than in the City...

Yes, I agree. If they can't find land, they'll make land as the images above illustrates.

SE9
August 27th, 2006, 08:42 AM
Core's now at 3rd level:

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/60/dsc06900xp6.jpg

Madman
August 28th, 2006, 10:15 AM
Great pic, they're speeding away with that core. Also i like the way the Dome pops up in the background :)

Fragmentor
August 28th, 2006, 01:48 PM
Its a shame it wont be visible from that angle when this is done really...

SE9
October 27th, 2006, 12:33 PM
The main core :)

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/8333/dsc07368qp9.jpg

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/6307/dsc07371fu0.jpg

Medo
October 27th, 2006, 12:41 PM
Thanks SE9 :cheers2:

What would we do without you?

mrout
October 27th, 2006, 06:24 PM
Interesting! Is that corrugated steel the only thing holding the water back?

jef
October 27th, 2006, 06:25 PM
Main core? I am confused. 3 cores for the same building? There is another one u/c opposite to Barclays isn't it?

SE9
October 27th, 2006, 06:35 PM
Well, I'm not sure. Those above are the only ones I saw yesterday.


These are the only two cores I was aware of:

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/850/cpyd1.jpg

jef
October 27th, 2006, 06:51 PM
you"re right. Main core; should rise to 12+2 plants. The podium was supposed to be 4-storeys but I see 5??

Luke
October 28th, 2006, 11:06 AM
The scale of the building is quite huge looking at those pictures.

Smarty
October 29th, 2006, 11:12 AM
Here are some pictures taken from floor 36 of OCS on Friday morning

http://static.flickr.com/86/282074111_21e0315ec9_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/95/282074138_37e5b1e0df_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/118/282074158_b1f7ee99b8_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/101/282074184_d49f6919c2_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/88/282074210_585addb504_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/111/282074236_cc798763d6_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/80/282074272_34ffdd35a7_o.jpg

DarJoLe
October 29th, 2006, 11:54 AM
I still have no idea what this building will look like when it's finished.

jef
October 31st, 2006, 11:58 PM
I still have no idea what this building will look like when it's finished.

Good question Darren. Herebelow the original design of 10-20 Churchill Place by SOM in hi-res. Should give an idea:

http://i11.tinypic.com/316u9ts.jpg


http://i11.tinypic.com/29nuiw8.jpg


now only the smaller 10 Churchill Place (SOM)


http://i12.tinypic.com/4hu0dfo.jpg


again 10 CP, by night:


http://i12.tinypic.com/2lt3ajd.jpg


And finally, 15 Canada Square (SOM) by night, KPMG still under offer.


http://i11.tinypic.com/43qm0ed.jpg

Skid-Mark
November 1st, 2006, 12:09 AM
..........

london lad
November 1st, 2006, 12:35 PM
Thers so many different versions of these buildings its hard to work out the right one. Originally they were designed by Terry Farrell. Then theres the ones above & then theres these ones from Canary Wharf offices, The Wharf & LPR.

5 CP

http://i11.tinypic.com/2wfiwcy.jpg

15 Canada Square

http://i12.tinypic.com/3you7oz.jpg

Another one of 15CS

http://i12.tinypic.com/2lo57uq.jpg


Also I've seen a pic of 10 or maybe 20CP which show a building similar to the one posted here of 5CP with shear glass walls.

You would have thought CW would have released some pictures of whats being constructed now- Its not as if its sensitive as we will see for ourselves in the next 6mths or so as the building progresses.

Ntn_Rawlings
November 1st, 2006, 03:07 PM
so what is ACTUALLY getting built here then? After that, im somewhat confused.

london lad
November 4th, 2006, 09:16 AM
Quite interesting comments on the latest Q3 report for London offices. It mentions companies at CW at running out of space & are being forced to look elsewhere around the area to find room for there staff. Also mentions vacancy rates are the lowest since Q1 2001 (which was before any of Heron quays was built) & also it mentions that CW is under pressure to start construction but landlords at Heron Quays are reluctant to sell there interests to make way for development. That would mean CW could only really start the remaining CP building or RS if it needs to expand to meet demand.

http://www.gvagrimley.co.uk/PreBuilt/Research%20web/Central%20london%20Office%20Comment/CLOC_2006_Quarter_3.pdf

maxxam80
November 4th, 2006, 10:29 AM
of course they would go for the CP building first

wjfox
November 4th, 2006, 11:38 AM
There is absolutely no way Riverside South will start before the remaining CP building.

jef
November 4th, 2006, 11:42 AM
Riverside South or North Quay or Wood Wharf (construction anticipated to start in 2008).

Meanwhile ArrowHead Quay could absorb excess demand. Unless there is a requirement for a bespoke HQ larger than the remaining 10 CP.

dom
November 4th, 2006, 02:39 PM
What about the twin towers designed by Richard Rogers, Heron Quays West? They are easily the most attractive office towers yet designed for Canary Wharf. Why not build them?

mulattokid
November 4th, 2006, 02:59 PM
Quite interesting comments on the latest Q3 report for London offices. It mentions companies at CW at running out of space & are being forced to look elsewhere around the area to find room for there staff. Also mentions vacancy rates are the lowest since Q1 2001 (which was before any of Heron quays was built) & also it mentions that CW is under pressure to start construction but landlords at Heron Quays are reluctant to sell there interests to make way for development. That would mean CW could only really start the remaining CP building or RS if it needs to expand to meet demand.

http://www.gvagrimley.co.uk/PreBuilt/Research%20web/Central%20london%20Office%20Comment/CLOC_2006_Quarter_3.pdf

I know...they could purchase the land, design and tower called 'Colombus' that would be a coup

jef
November 4th, 2006, 04:11 PM
I know...they could purchase the land, design and tower called 'Colombus' that would be a coup

Columbus - Hertsmere House - is exactly above the proposed Crossrail tunnels.

mulattokid
November 4th, 2006, 04:24 PM
Yes, but does it mean that the site cannot be used? What about the approved tower that was due to go there?

jef
November 4th, 2006, 04:44 PM
Yes, but does it mean that the site cannot be used?

Not at the mo. Imagine your foundations conflict with tunnelling works of Xrail.

mulattokid
November 4th, 2006, 05:21 PM
Oh ok... I hoped they had resolved that issue...thanks

Wild@Heart
November 4th, 2006, 05:55 PM
Slightly off topic, but in the 3rd of Jeff's renders above, 10 Upper Bank Street has a Clifford Chance sign on the side. Wonder why they never went through with that...

rickster2k
November 5th, 2006, 01:18 PM
^ Don't know - I guess not many law firms use signage on their buildings. There is also a logo for The McGraw... on the other building.

BoA, Citigroup, HSBC and Barclays are the only towers in CW to feature big, lit up signage to my knowledge.

Tbh, i think it can be overkill, just go to Sydney and most of their towers have some form of corporate logo plastered on the side which glows at night, kind of like 'my brand is better than yours and I want everyone to see it', could you imagine OCS with a logo on it - I would look cheap!

Skid-Mark
November 5th, 2006, 07:45 PM
What about the twin towers designed by Richard Rogers, Heron Quays West? They are easily the most attractive office towers yet designed for Canary Wharf. Why not build them?

Yeah, agree with you, Herons Quay West piss all over the other designs, including his RS scheme.

brunob
November 7th, 2006, 05:09 PM
well there you have it, i went down to the site today, or as close as i could which isn't that hard since it's right next to the [edit]road.
Right opposite the main core, there's a hoarding on which features tech details about the building, a render, and a 'progress log' that describes in pretty simple lingo what goes on at the site. What is going up right now is BP3, at 11 storeys high.
Sorry no pics forgot the cam. Main core is a big fat mama when looked at from any angle.

jef
November 7th, 2006, 06:31 PM
From Emporis, November update:

South, 5 levels - completed core:

http://i13.tinypic.com/2gub9mb.jpg


North, 11 levels - u/c core:

http://i13.tinypic.com/47m9apw.jpg

jef
November 13th, 2006, 07:55 PM
Churchill Plc u/c. The south podium is now clearly visible:
Ontario Tower in the background.
Viewed from 10 Upper Bank Street. c/Jonmlean.

http://i15.tinypic.com/30idzsx.jpg



Another one from 10 Upper Bank Street. View towards Wood Wharf:


http://i15.tinypic.com/33vnof7.jpg

Wood Wharf and Exchange Tower on the right:

http://i15.tinypic.com/40orm79.jpg

mulattokid
November 13th, 2006, 10:27 PM
Thank you :)

jimbo
November 13th, 2006, 10:33 PM
great photos jef - wicked view from up there. Wood Wharf will be a cracking transformation, will really open up the eastern side of the Isle of Dogs when walking through the Wharf. Looks like the industrial units are all still open though - construction wasn't due till 2008 was it?

jef
November 13th, 2006, 10:43 PM
Yes. and detailed planning application for both residential and commercial parts are due in Q1 2007.

samsonyuen
November 14th, 2006, 02:29 AM
Great pics. That's some great progress being made!

SE9
November 19th, 2006, 01:00 AM
Lookin' tall:

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6572/dsc07568gw9.jpg

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8923/dsc07569xb1.jpg

jef
November 19th, 2006, 09:54 AM
Yes, it looks tall for a low-rise. Still I have no idea of what he looks like, except the 5-storeys podium wing.
Two additional buildings will soon start construction:

5 Churchill (east/right of Barclays) and 15 CS (west/left of Barclays) about 17 storeys high each:

http://i9.tinypic.com/3zh1agw.jpg

http://i15.tinypic.com/33yrup1.jpg

jimbo
November 19th, 2006, 04:48 PM
okay - downloaded this from the Canary Wharf website, and whilst it doesn't seem to show the redesigned element, it still gives a good impression of the massing around Churchill Place.

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/4860/canarywharfqa7.jpg

its missing Riverside South - but expect that will come in due course. You can also make out the redddish lowrise element which will eventually be the site of Heron Quays West I believe.

jef
November 19th, 2006, 06:11 PM
This a massing model of what CW is likely to look like around 2010 (work in progress).
10 CP is missing and I have been guessing the design of 20CP and added fantasy texure. I will also refine 15 CS in due time.
Note how small are PP and Marsh Wall compared to RS.

http://i9.tinypic.com/2iie4bn.jpg


http://i15.tinypic.com/29atdux.jpg

jimbo
November 19th, 2006, 06:29 PM
I guess you are omitting Heron Quays West and North Quay for the moment as these aren't going to be likely until 2012 at the earliest? RS will be a huge chunk of floorspace for CWG to absorb, plus the construction cost of all the Churchill Place buildings, so all these current schemes should keep them occupied for the next 4-5 years at least?

Wood Wharf will also start providing some more competition should pp and funding proceed without problems.

Good model by the way - this google earth malarky is rather impressive.

Skid-Mark
November 19th, 2006, 09:09 PM
^^ Good work Jef.

Luke
November 26th, 2006, 08:58 PM
Big Core

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/luke82/dadscamera261106097.jpg

Little Core with some steel.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/luke82/dadscamera261106096.jpg

And finally a hole in the ground. What they puttin here then?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/luke82/dadscamera261106100.jpg

Mikey
November 26th, 2006, 10:01 PM
The big core as you put it is now visable from many places and there is still a couple of floors to go :)

jef
November 26th, 2006, 10:12 PM
Thanks Luke.
The big core is approximately 70m high because it is now as high as 20 Canada Square.
The hole is the site of 10 CP. I presume they will built it up to street level.

jef
November 26th, 2006, 10:52 PM
from flickr, Pan Peninsula is behind Exchange tower (see the cranes).
The core of 20 CP can be seen before Barclays Tower, see right of the picture. Scroll -->
Also works at Ability Place and Crossharbour.
Willis is also visible.


http://i14.tinypic.com/45256rd.jpg

S.T.A.S.
November 29th, 2006, 07:52 PM
Oh yes, I drove past thet place for 2 months on my way to uni by DLR and had no clue what they're building there, well now I know...DIVINE!

DarJoLe
December 3rd, 2006, 07:22 PM
3/12/2006

http://static.flickr.com/106/313061477_d4a3a9eada_b.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/99/313061482_3f35989c7d_b.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/113/313061487_a0f76be7db_b.jpg

jef
December 3rd, 2006, 07:32 PM
Pretty decent size. Better than I would have thought.
Nice pics. Thanks Darren.

rickster2k
December 3rd, 2006, 07:42 PM
This is really going to be a big building, much more than I thought from the renders.

jef
December 3rd, 2006, 07:45 PM
another one taken today by ian wilson on flickr, from Greenwhich.
Spot also PP, the tallest core is not as high as Hilton hotel:


http://i12.tinypic.com/2h2gi9g.jpg

SE9
December 4th, 2006, 06:49 PM
By 'Cheney Tseng' on flickr:

http://static.flickr.com/121/313157136_7ea0ffd4fd_o.jpg

Fragmentor
December 4th, 2006, 06:56 PM
It will really have a much bigger presence on the skyline than I would have imagined. At first I thought of it as a slight waste of a good oppurtunity, but it really will be very visible :yes:

jimbo
December 4th, 2006, 09:10 PM
another one taken today by ian wilson on flickr, from Greenwhich.
Spot also PP, the tallest core is not as high as Hilton hotel:


http://i12.tinypic.com/2h2gi9g.jpg

just out of interest, and not being facetious, but did many heritage bodies object to the building of Canary Wharf in the early 1990s and the impact it would have on the view of the Royal Naval College from Greenwich Observatory? I'd bet there was a bit of NIMBY grumbling going on.

I myself think the mix of old and new is great.

snail456
December 4th, 2006, 09:15 PM
totally agree...its a stunning view.

mulattokid
December 4th, 2006, 09:19 PM
I suspect a typical nimby would see this view as how the country is being destroyed by 'so called' progess...where as I see this view as my country evolving, surviving and keeping the best and worthy of our fantastic heritage...if there was ever a microbe fossil found on Mars they would say....'we can NEVER go there because we would destoy it all!....rubbish ...limited view of reality..

rickster2k
December 4th, 2006, 09:42 PM
^ If only 1CS was built to its intended original height of 250m it would have been more of a landmark tower for CW now.

AK75
December 15th, 2006, 01:03 PM
Hi all,

I'll try to post pictures every 2/3 weeks of the building site, at least until April next year (as too many foreign ex-colleague keep asking me about it)

Watch this space...

http://images.kodakgallery.eu.com/servlet/Images/photos213/1/93/45/42/85/2/285424593133_0_BG.jpg?a=0
http://images.kodakgallery.eu.com/servlet/Images/photos213/1/93/45/42/85/5/585424593133_0_BG.jpg?a=0
http://images.kodakgallery.eu.com/photos213/1/93/45/42/85/8/885424593133_0_ALB.jpg
http://images.kodakgallery.eu.com/photos213/1/93/45/42/95/2/295424593133_0_ALB.jpg
http://images.kodakgallery.eu.com/servlet/Images/photos213/1/93/45/42/95/5/595424593133_0_BG.jpg?a=0
http://images.kodakgallery.eu.com/servlet/Images/photos213/1/93/45/42/95/8/895424593133_0_BG.jpg?a=0
http://images.kodakgallery.eu.com/photos213/1/93/45/42/6/2/206424593133_0_ALB.jpg
http://images.kodakgallery.eu.com/photos213/1/93/45/42/6/5/506424593133_0_ALB.jpg
http://images.kodakgallery.eu.com/photos213/1/93/45/42/6/8/806424593133_0_ALB.jpg
http://images.kodakgallery.eu.com/photos213/1/93/45/42/16/2/216424593133_0_ALB.jpg
http://images.kodakgallery.eu.com/photos213/1/93/45/42/16/5/516424593133_0_ALB.jpg

jef
December 15th, 2006, 01:13 PM
Welcome! Nice pics.

AK75
December 15th, 2006, 02:10 PM
thanks, but the weather could have been a bit better to enhance the concrete greyness, next time...

wjfox
December 15th, 2006, 02:19 PM
Your pics don't seem to be displaying for me.

jef
December 15th, 2006, 02:24 PM
Indeed, sometimes they do sometimes they do not.
To see them, copy paste the kodack link directly in your browser.
The solution would be to upload them into tynipics.com or another browser.

mulattokid
December 15th, 2006, 02:56 PM
Welocme AK75 (?) I too cannot see the pics I will follow the advice as Ms Parsimony suggests and copy the link

She suggested this link www.tinypic.com

you just upload your images for free and then copy the link you are given to your post. It tells you which one is for Forums

AK75
December 15th, 2006, 04:28 PM
how bizarre, I have tried on both Mozilla & IE and they both worked, I have moved them to another location (bigger size) http://www.flickr.com/photos/85663406@N00/sets/72157594422881088/detail/

I hope you will be able to see them now :)

jef
December 15th, 2006, 06:20 PM
Yeah that's better indeed.

But who is Ms Parsimony?

jef
December 15th, 2006, 07:55 PM
From Sagerhead "Ghost Building":

http://i10.tinypic.com/4466b9i.jpg

eXSBass
December 15th, 2006, 09:19 PM
Sex on cores :)

jef
December 17th, 2006, 12:53 AM
From Kamakuro.

http://i10.tinypic.com/2j3gm87.jpg

I have seen a small crane on 15 CS. Construction on the
new kpmg hq may be imminent. Or preparatory works.

uk2012
December 17th, 2006, 06:10 AM
DEL

AXISPAW
December 17th, 2006, 12:25 PM
its a pitty though that barcleys and hsbc are hidding ics and citigroup. the photo would look so much better if you could see them too

AXISPAW
December 17th, 2006, 12:29 PM
^^^^ sorry i meant 1cs

jef
December 25th, 2006, 06:03 PM
Bear Stearns has appointed Roger Preston Interiors as its engineering services consultant for its new HQ building at Canary Wharf.

New rendering of 5 Churchill Place:

http://i13.tinypic.com/2n88p6u.jpg

Dan1987
December 25th, 2006, 06:08 PM
Looks swish

DarJoLe
December 25th, 2006, 06:18 PM
The curved crown is something I suppose.

mulattokid
December 25th, 2006, 07:04 PM
Thats nice!

eXSBass
December 25th, 2006, 08:25 PM
IF ONLY it was 10 - 15 storeys taller! Something like is what CW needs but it's not tall enough!
Curse them!

JDRS
December 26th, 2006, 12:32 AM
Yeah a bit taller would be welcomed but looks pretty decent and not completely boxy.

gothicform
December 26th, 2006, 11:54 PM
the curved element does serve to break it up though and works singularly in a visual sense to create a mini tower of its own i find.

DarJoLe
December 27th, 2006, 08:10 PM
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/164/335374731_0970b03713_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/131/335374735_b4545f924e_b.jpg

jef
December 27th, 2006, 08:17 PM
It soars. Thanks Darjole.
btw: what's the yellow crane behind the white left crane in the second pic?
Poplar?

DarJoLe
December 27th, 2006, 09:11 PM
what's the yellow crane behind the white left crane in the second pic?
Poplar?

I believe so. The three to the right are Elektron.

Patrick Highrise
January 2nd, 2007, 11:35 PM
Well since I was also in London after christmas, I offcourse also visited Canary wharf.
Here a pic of Churchill Place (28th december), nothing to fancy of a pic btw :)

4. Churchill Place
http://www.skyscrapers.nl/london/CW/CW_004.jpg

jef
January 3rd, 2007, 12:08 AM
Thanks Patrick.

Here is another of your picture (see link) showing a crane on the site of 5 Churchill Place. Another core will soon start rising.

http://www.skyscrapers.nl/london/CW/CW_008.jpg

mulattokid
January 3rd, 2007, 01:47 PM
Thanks guys! plan to go there tomorrow or the next day myself...will pick a sunny day.

AK75
January 3rd, 2007, 03:09 PM
new pictures added today at the following link http://www.flickr.com/photos/85663406@N00/sets/72157594422881088/detail/

mulattokid
January 3rd, 2007, 03:57 PM
great updates!

Mikey
January 3rd, 2007, 06:31 PM
http://i13.tinypic.com/2n88p6u.jpg

I like the curved top, it make a change from all the boxes ! although the tower could have done with being five floors taller, it is definately making its presence felt especially to the east of the cluster.

jimbo
January 7th, 2007, 05:43 PM
Sat 30th Dec:
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/4904/img1299vv0.jpg

Mikey
January 7th, 2007, 06:48 PM
Barclays tower, a churchill place midrise oh and swiss air rj 100 :)

eXSBass
January 8th, 2007, 01:36 AM
Not the best quality guys, i'm sorry. Was taken on a k800i camera phone. It's something though. Taken today (07 - 01 - 07) Enjoy!

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p161/ricochetj/Churchil11Small.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p161/ricochetj/Churchil10Small.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p161/ricochetj/Churchil4Small.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p161/ricochetj/Churchil3Small.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p161/ricochetj/Churchil2Small.jpg

jef
January 8th, 2007, 06:48 PM
It shows the kind of car bought by the average cw worker :lol:


http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p161/ricochetj/Churchil3Small.jpg

LONDON ANGEL
January 11th, 2007, 02:30 PM
I have one of them thank you very much. Cost me 2 qids from toys r us :)

Jack Rabbit Slim
January 11th, 2007, 07:06 PM
I'm not sure if this has been posted yet or even if this is the right thread to post it in (I think it is though):


Bank to expand

INVESTMENT bank Bear Stearns could be tripling its workforce in Canary Wharf.

The financial powerhouse is to set up its European headquarters in a purpose-built 12-storey tower at Churchill Place by 2009.

And according to a leading financial newspaper, Michel Péretié, Bear Stearns' chief executive in Europe, has been authorised to boost staff numbers in London from 1,200 to 3,500 by that time.

The US bank currently occupies five storeys of One Canada Square, including the top (50th) floor.

The new HQ is currently taking shape at 5 Churchill Place, next to the Barclays building.

jef
January 15th, 2007, 07:04 PM
by goingdeadfor:
btw: where is exactly that crane on the left of Barclays. Is it 15CS, NQ, Poplar???

http://i10.tinypic.com/4gforxk.jpg

by DJ Damien

http://i10.tinypic.com/48rryw9.jpg

maxxam80
January 16th, 2007, 12:11 AM
that crane has been there ages Jef

don't think it is doing anything special

brunob
January 16th, 2007, 01:41 PM
It's been there since the parking @ north quay isn't operating anymore. 3 months or something?

jef
January 16th, 2007, 02:22 PM
thanks guys. Presumably it is related to the construction of the EDF electricity substation,
or DLR works, or banana wall.

AK75
February 14th, 2007, 04:59 PM
Hi All,

New pictures of 20 Churchill Place taken today during a brief ray of sunshine..
A few of them are from the other projects going on around the Barclays building.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/85663406@N00/sets/72157594422881088/

Enjoy!

Stephan.

jef
February 14th, 2007, 06:08 PM
Hi All,

New pictures of 20 Churchill Place taken today during a brief ray of sunshine..
A few of them are from the other projects going on around the Barclays building.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/85663406@N00/sets/72157594422881088/

Enjoy!

Stephan.

Thanks a lot for these. Hope you don't mind I post four representative pics of your set of pictures to share them in hi-res with everyone

This first one by Stephan/AK75 shows 20 Churchill Place (State Street HQ):

http://i16.tinypic.com/33vki3d.jpg

This second one by Stephan/AK75 shows 5 Churchill Place that has now started construction (Bear Stearns HQ), see the crane.

http://i15.tinypic.com/2r3jmg8.jpg

This third one by Stephan/AK75 shows 15 Canada Square (KPMG) and 30 The North Colonnade (spec) under construction. The cores are those of 30The North Colonnade. There are now 2 cranes on site, one for each building.

http://i12.tinypic.com/2gxehqs.jpg

This fourth one by Stephan/AK75 shows 10 Churchill Place. Basement works are underxay. Apparently it will be built if a prelet is secured.

http://i19.tinypic.com/4g4r7yd.jpg

mulattokid
February 14th, 2007, 08:16 PM
On a technical level...I just cant believe how randomly positioned those supports are!

Octoman
February 14th, 2007, 10:26 PM
Ha ha. Yeah, I think whoever had to put the wooden thing on top should have made them even. Look pretty well placed to me otherwise.

mulattokid
February 15th, 2007, 01:10 PM
Ha ha. Yeah, I think whoever had to put the wooden thing on top should have made them even. Look pretty well placed to me otherwise.

Well...theres a bit of a big gap on the right! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Looks a bit like my effort at putting the duvet cover on..you think its pefect, then you find a lump in the corner

jef
February 15th, 2007, 06:39 PM
another one taken yesterday by tim robinson. Shows the cores of 30 the north colonnade
and billinsgate market that will be redeveloped next decade:

http://i5.tinypic.com/2eobiww.jpg

Xander
February 17th, 2007, 04:06 PM
I'm still not sure what these CP buildings are going to look like when they are finished. renders anyone?

jef
February 17th, 2007, 04:48 PM
20 CP (State Street). I do not know.

10 CP (piling):

http://i12.tinypic.com/4hu0dfo.jpg

http://i12.tinypic.com/2lt3ajd.jpg

5 CP (BS)

http://i13.tinypic.com/2n88p6u.jpg

http://www.canarywharfoffices.com/gallery/15canada/1.jpg

15 CS (KPMG):

http://www.canarywharfoffices.com/gallery/5churchill/1.jpg

30 the North Colonnade. details yet to be give. Something like this

http://i12.tinypic.com/4i44mwx.jpg

Xander
February 17th, 2007, 05:04 PM
cheers. will all add to the density nicely.

jef
February 17th, 2007, 07:49 PM
^^

This a map including Wood Wharf masterplan. Churchill Place will be surrounded by skyscrapers on the east and south, with i.a. land reclaimation in the South dock. Scroll --->

http://i19.tinypic.com/4fyoygp.jpg

DarJoLe
February 18th, 2007, 08:53 PM
17/02/07

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/145/394368627_7ea5273184_b.jpg

jef
February 19th, 2007, 08:54 AM
it's incredible how quick they build. Should be around 85m as it has 3 more floors than 5, 20, and 10 CP.

Xander
February 19th, 2007, 01:27 PM
^is that core for 15 CS (KPMG) or 30 the North Colonnade?

DarJoLe
February 19th, 2007, 02:14 PM
30 North Colonnade, athough you can see the wooden slats going up to the right to start the core for 15CS.

jef
February 19th, 2007, 02:59 PM
oh yes, I hadn't noticed. Thanks for your regular updates and explanations Darren.

AK75
February 19th, 2007, 03:10 PM
no problem using the picture, feel free anytime. Thanks as well for posting the Renders much appreciated.

Cat man do
February 19th, 2007, 05:18 PM
Looks a bit like my effort at putting the duvet cover on..you think its pefect, then you find a lump in the corner
Phew, its not just me then.

ill tonkso
February 19th, 2007, 06:17 PM
Something i just noticed? The signage on 10 Upper Bank Street in those renders, im sure it doesnt have any signage in Real Life.

jef
February 24th, 2007, 07:21 PM
30 The North Colonnade and 15 CS (KPMG) are 85m.
5 CP to the right of Barclays is 71m.
The view should be partially obstructed by 10 and CP (u/c):


http://i9.tinypic.com/2r5f9yr.jpg


view from Citigroup:


http://i18.tinypic.com/453yquv.jpg

DarJoLe
February 25th, 2007, 07:00 PM
Well I'm trying to muster up the energy to be excited by these but it's quite an impossible task.

wjfox
February 25th, 2007, 07:06 PM
:lol:

ill tonkso
February 25th, 2007, 10:11 PM
Well I'm trying to muster up the energy to be excited by these but it's quite an impossible task. Well we need midrise, more human scale buildings to bring CW to life. :banana:

mulattokid
February 25th, 2007, 10:32 PM
Fills in the gaps too..but I dont know why they didnt go taller considering the need for more office space. :(

Jamandell (d69)
February 26th, 2007, 01:16 AM
..but I dont know why they didnt go taller considering the need for more office space. :(

Exactly what I was wondering.

DarJoLe
February 26th, 2007, 11:15 AM
Well we need midrise, more human scale buildings to bring CW to life. :banana:

These are hardly human scale. Not that height worries me, more the fact they are as bland as couscous.

mulattokid
February 26th, 2007, 12:25 PM
I like cous cous

Madman
February 26th, 2007, 07:35 PM
^oh dear

I think the midrises though not necessarily to our liking are good for Canary Wharf - they provide an alternative for large firms that arent keen on occupying a skyscraper

ill tonkso
February 26th, 2007, 07:41 PM
Well, i agree on the blandness, one thing with Canary Wharf is quite bland. I reckon they should build more things in the style of 10 Cabot Square, i LOVE that thing!

Mikey
February 26th, 2007, 07:57 PM
why oh why they didnt go to at least 100m on at least one of them I will never know.... come on guys lets have some height variety

Great Work there Jef :D

london lad
February 28th, 2007, 12:55 PM
Pic of 20 CP (State St HQ) Yaaaaaaawn. It would seem construction of this building is the most exciting thing about it.

http://i18.tinypic.com/47l0pki.jpg

jef
February 28th, 2007, 01:07 PM
Thanks for this ... first rendering.

DarJoLe
February 28th, 2007, 01:22 PM
Have any architects been appointed yet for the tower which will sit behind this in Wood Wharf?

london lad
February 28th, 2007, 01:33 PM
BDP were appointed to work on the residental buildings way back in July 05 & the should be sbumitted along with the Rogers masterplan soon. I hope Rogers is going to design one or two of the buildings.

http://www.bdp.co.uk/flash/index.asp#newsArticle

gothicform
February 28th, 2007, 02:29 PM
looks like someone has been reading the onoffice website london lad. do you like it (the site that is)?

london lad
February 28th, 2007, 11:54 PM
I got it through the link on your site. I only had a quick look at the site. Is it an actual physical magazine as it kept asking me to register for a copy??

gothicform
March 2nd, 2007, 06:44 AM
yes it is an actual physical magazine, and as of next month skyscrapernews has a section in it ... yes we are going print althuogh we are unsure on how many pages we will get :) register for a copy, its surprisingly good and theyll send you a copy for free.
that reminds me, i need to update that page to show other publications. ive done and dusted a couple of deals in the past few months, this is only one.

DarJoLe
March 5th, 2007, 12:48 PM
04/03/2007

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/169/411224238_650498ac20_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/185/411224227_0b4d2e1e39_b.jpg

marrio415
March 5th, 2007, 02:29 PM
like the second pic cos it's adding some density to the cluster.

londonhighriser
March 10th, 2007, 01:12 AM
this pic may have been posted before, sorry if it has but i thought 5 churchill place looks cool at the back ...

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4296/photo0195bw5.jpg

Jamandell (d69)
March 10th, 2007, 03:00 PM
I certainly haven't seen that before at least! It does look quite good.

DarJoLe
March 13th, 2007, 01:42 PM
AJPlus.co.uk
Published 13 March 2007 at 11:34
HOK looks to Aalto for Docklands inspiration – images

http://www.ajplus.co.uk/Images/Articles/130307_BEAR_MAIN.JPG
HOK International has revealed these new images of its London Docklands-based Churchill Place development, inspired by iconic Finnish Modernist Alvar Aalto.
Construction is already under way on the 12-storey tower – set to open in 2009 as investment bank Bear Stearns’ new European HQ.

Located on the eastern perimeter of Canary Wharf, the 28,000m2 tower has been influenced by the ‘elegant curves’ of an Aalto vase design – according to HOK, which is acting as lead consultant.

HOK design director Larry Malcic said: ‘The site is a challenging, non-orthogonal shape. The distinctive elevations draw inspiration from optical art so that, as the observer’s vantage point moves, the character and materials of the building change.’

Churchill Place will be dominated by glass, granite or metal, depending on the perspective, added Malcic.


‘The northern elevation has a generous amount of glass facade, maximising the amount of natural daylight with minimal solar gain,’ Malcic said.

‘Stainless steel edges catch light and sun reflections in this northern-Europe location.’

Churchill Place is one of the last projects to be completed within the original London Docklands Development Corporation (LDDC) enterprise zone, which existed for 10 years from 1982.

http://www.ajplus.co.uk/Images/Articles/130307_BEAR2_T_L.jpg

chrissyb
March 13th, 2007, 02:19 PM
Hey wow - the curved Aalto top really makes a difference.

It's a bland glass box with a twist.

:)

Xander
March 13th, 2007, 10:14 PM
yeah i really like it. looks like a bit of effot has gone into the design.

DarJoLe
March 13th, 2007, 10:22 PM
I think it's too late for Canary Wharf to suddenly sprout a bunch of crazy towers like the City and not make them look out of place. From some angles the blockiness of the cluster does work, especially when looked at from a diagonal angle.

However, this building could be the beginning of a turning point. Whilst Canary Wharf aren't going to let go off their famous 'boxchitecture' that easily, they are suggesting they are willing to start looking at playful facades and cladding, albeit within the 'corporate silver' branding. Depending how this turns out this rather insignificant building could turn out to be one of my favourites if done well.

I've always liked some of the smaller projects in the Wharf. The glass of the side walls of the Waitrose building, how it undulates and curves but only when you look at it from the other side of the road looks fantastic, and I've always thought this on the side of a larger tower would be immense.

A few more boxes but with spectacular cladding that is almost playful would do the outskirts of Canary Wharf wonders.

jef
March 14th, 2007, 02:24 PM
Has the core of this one started to rise?

The core of 30 The North Colonnade (80m) is now about half its way to the top and visible from Greenwhich. Another insignificant info: 10 Churchill Place (the site u/c betweenj McGrawHill HQ and State Street HQ) has been renamed 25 Churchill Place. It makes more sense.

Xander
March 14th, 2007, 03:04 PM
^I walked past the site last week and no the core hasn't started to rise. They had a printed construction timetable on the hoarding, and if my memory serves me correctly i believe it said that the core will rise above groundlevel in May.

jef
March 22nd, 2007, 02:02 PM
KPMG has been granted call options over approximately 100,000 sq ft in 30 The North Colonnade.

Luke
March 22nd, 2007, 03:14 PM
I thought KPMG had only just signed up for the remaining Canada Square plot?

Surely if your going to be moving into a new headoffice in two years time you make sure it has enough space in it to cover medium term expansion?

jef
March 22nd, 2007, 03:24 PM
It is an option they can exercise up to August I think in the building adjacent to their future head office - 30 TNC which is u/c. KPMG will also keep some space at 1CS I think.

jef
March 22nd, 2007, 06:52 PM
view of State Street signage:

http://i10.tinypic.com/48chbh1.jpg

JGG
March 22nd, 2007, 10:20 PM
I like the architecture of 5 CP a lot. It gives a strong vertical feeling and will fit in well at CW. Certainly not "another glass box".

AK75
March 24th, 2007, 03:10 PM
Hi All,
these pix are a bit dated now but I couldn't find out my camera cable, anyway, better late than never. (I might post some fresher one this coming week)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/85663406@N00/

mulattokid
March 24th, 2007, 07:10 PM
^^^ Thanks..there is a great timeline in your photosets :)

SE9
March 25th, 2007, 09:39 PM
Churchill Place today:

http://i5.tinypic.com/2u7sqid.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4196/dsc082501wz3.jpg

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/7080/dsc082512pb3.jpg

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9240/dsc082541kw9.jpg


... and close neighbour North Colonnade:

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/9105/dsc082571cp9.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4840/dsc082551bi3.jpg

mulattokid
March 25th, 2007, 09:51 PM
Many thanks...not all erections have to rely on size to impress the viewer.....trust me.

marrio415
March 25th, 2007, 11:43 PM
Many thanks...not all erections have to rely on size to impress the viewer.....trust me.

yeah i would agree there looking at the core for north colonade not tall but very wide for a midrise looks like it will be one large building will fit in well i think

AK75
April 4th, 2007, 01:11 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/85663406@N00/sets/72157594422881088/detail/?page=5

marrio415
April 4th, 2007, 01:15 PM
Excellent pics dude nice one

jef
April 4th, 2007, 07:56 PM
interesting update, AK75/
a bigger version of Bear Stearns HQ:

http://i5.tinypic.com/43crafo.jpg

mulattokid
April 4th, 2007, 08:25 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/85663406@N00/sets/72157594422881088/detail/?page=5

:) :)

Newcastle Guy
April 4th, 2007, 09:01 PM
I wasn't totally sure which buildings I was snapping here lol

http://www.magix-photos.com/mediapool00/54/48/6F/30/77/16/11/DA/85/15/20/23/52/27/29/83/oma/10/95DD3180E2DE11DBAFD67C6B52273AB1.jpg

http://www.magix-photos.com/mediapool00/54/48/6F/30/77/16/11/DA/85/15/20/23/52/27/29/83/oma/10/962F4920E2DE11DB8D421F6752273AB1.jpg

http://www.magix-photos.com/mediapool00/54/48/6F/30/77/16/11/DA/85/15/20/23/52/27/29/83/oma/10/96AA4580E2DE11DB9E0355B252273AB1.jpg

http://www.magix-photos.com/mediapool00/54/48/6F/30/77/16/11/DA/85/15/20/23/52/27/29/83/oma/10/97089220E2DE11DBB355BD3652273AB1.jpg

http://www.magix-photos.com/mediapool00/54/48/6F/30/77/16/11/DA/85/15/20/23/52/27/29/83/oma/10/97616080E2DE11DBA603868552273AB1.jpg

http://www.magix-photos.com/mediapool00/54/48/6F/30/77/16/11/DA/85/15/20/23/52/27/29/83/oma/10/97C1D000E2DE11DBA4E26B6952273AB1.jpg

SE9
April 9th, 2007, 03:59 AM
Flickr:

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=449892705&size=l

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/173/449892705_57a45029cb_b.jpg

Zedferret
April 9th, 2007, 12:36 PM
British Engineers could teach Dubai a thing or two about building next to water. Check out the thread for the Infinity Tower in the Supertalls section.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=358434&page=9

delores
April 9th, 2007, 01:38 PM
what does this building look like when its finished...it looks very bland don't you think?

london lad
April 9th, 2007, 01:56 PM
what does this building look like when its finished...it looks very bland don't you think?

Incredibly bland.

Zedferret
April 9th, 2007, 02:10 PM
Incredibly bland.

Welcome to Canary Wharf!:)

Madman
April 9th, 2007, 02:54 PM
British Engineers could teach Dubai a thing or two about building next to water. Check out the thread for the Infinity Tower in the Supertalls section.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=358434&page=9

i'm just trying to imagine how the contracter broke the news to the developer lol...

Officer Dibble
April 11th, 2007, 02:06 AM
yeah p5 of that thread is pretty funny, when suddenly there's a construction update - just pictures, no comment, deadpan as it were - and, well, it's all a bit wet.

imagine that happening in london.

or wait till the sea levels rise enough and the thames barrage fails, that would work too.

delores
April 11th, 2007, 01:50 PM
wait a minute some of the cladding is slightly off centre! what a design masterpiece.

wearethefuture
April 11th, 2007, 07:04 PM
wait a minute some of the cladding is slightly off centre! what a design masterpiece.

Noticed that, makes it look even more flat pack!

Newcastle Guy
April 11th, 2007, 09:28 PM
Was it not supposed to be off centre? Notice the black lines joining up.

Newcastle Guy
April 11th, 2007, 09:29 PM
wait a minute some of the cladding is slightly off centre! what a design masterpiece.

Well, you don't need to worry anymore about 'design masterpieces' in Canary Wharf considering Riverside South is starting.

snail456
April 14th, 2007, 12:13 PM
Few pics...not much change...

North Colonnade:
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t147/snail2_2007/Picture010.jpg

Churchill Place:
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t147/snail2_2007/Picture020.jpg

Although the buildings at CW might not be oustanding works of art...they have at least created a very nice place to work in...everything in clean and its very pleasant sitting in Canada Square surrounding by Barclays HQ, Citygroup, HSBC and One Canada Square.

mulattokid
April 14th, 2007, 02:19 PM
:)

1LONDONER
April 14th, 2007, 04:41 PM
British Engineers could teach Dubai a thing or two about building next to water. Check out the thread for the Infinity Tower in the Supertalls section.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=358434&page=9

Oh dear..

Dan1987
April 15th, 2007, 09:15 PM
I don't know what number Churchill Place this is, however I took this pic of it today

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/218/460271911_2d141862cb_o.jpg

mulattokid
April 15th, 2007, 10:08 PM
Thanks! I get confused on what is what :

marrio415
April 15th, 2007, 11:28 PM
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i290/mazza75/canary%20wharf/20colanade.jpg http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i290/mazza75/canary%20wharf/churchilplace.jpg



these were taken friday april 13th churchill place is immpressive

mulattokid
April 16th, 2007, 12:57 PM
^^^ much appreciated, but whats happened to that man in the middle?

DarJoLe
April 27th, 2007, 11:09 AM
The 60s are back!

http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger2/3459/902252912568395/1600/z/691035/image-upload-2-766046.jpg

Zedferret
April 28th, 2007, 01:05 AM
Looks like my old school:(

Jonny 5
April 28th, 2007, 12:17 PM
Looks like the offspring of Euston Tower.